U.S. Politics

[Fenwyr]

I have a hard time imagining anything passing with this Congress.  Any law.  I swear, they could have a vote on whether oxygen was good for people and it wouldn't pass.  Everyone is salty.

Rand Paul despises Trump.  Graham is starting to let his hatred show.  Rubio is likely the next to distance himself.  Cruz seems to be the only one willing to go down with the Titanic.

With McCain, who was already right there with Graham, out for a bit, nothing major is getting passed in 2017.

[Fenwyr]

I'm not talking about repeal but complete bipartisan reform. And the ACA really doesn't work that well, it's too expensive and plans costs are increasing incredibly fast

No repeal, no tea party votes.

If they take repeal off the table (they won't) some bipartisan work could get done.

Premiums and deductibles in blue and purple states are going up at a slower rate than before the ACA.

[Tommy]

I have a hard time imagining anything passing with this Congress.  Any law.  I swear, they could have a vote on whether oxygen was good for people and it wouldn't pass.  Everyone is salty.

I feel like I've had it altogether with politics. It was fun watching Trump win as a big FU to the establishment and whiny people on the left, but now I'm kinda like "meh". I just don't have the energy to get emotionally invested in this crap anymore.

[dcm1602]

No repeal, no tea party votes.

If they take repeal off the table (they won't) some bipartisan work could get done.

Premiums and deductibles in blue and purple states are going up at a slower rate than before the ACA.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2017/03/22/yes-it-was-the-affordable-care-act-that-increased-premiums/#219cdceb11d2

t turns out that across the board, for all ages and family sizes, for HMO, PPO, and POS plans, premium increases averaged about 60 percent from 2013, the last year before ACA reforms took effect, to 2017. In same length of time preceding that, all groups experienced premium increases of less than 10 percent, and most age groups actually experienced premium decreases, on average.

tell me more

[Fenwyr]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2017/03/22/yes-it-was-the-affordable-care-act-that-increased-premiums/#219cdceb11d2
tell me more

So the author, an obvious conservative with an agenda, talks about cherry picking being bad, than uses unsubstaniated data, from which he obviously cherry picked data.

I read through some of his other articles and checked his CV to confirm my suspicions.

[sg3]

So the author, an obvious conservative with an agenda, talks about cherry picking being bad, than uses unsubstaniated data, from which he obviously cherry picked data.

I read through some of his other articles and checked his CV to confirm my suspicions.

Next dcm will be sourcing Ann Coulter, Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity as EXPERTS on the failure of Pres Obama
and the YUUUUUGE success of Crooked Donnie of Russia

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[dcm1602]

So the author, an obvious conservative with an agenda, talks about cherry picking being bad, than uses unsubstaniated data, from which he obviously cherry picked data.

I read through some of his other articles and checked his CV to confirm my suspicions.

Link that supports your claims about premiums?

[Fenwyr]

Link that supports your claims about premiums?

It's been widely reported for years outside of the far right echo chamber.  I don't have the time or energy to sift through years of reports at the moment.

The fact that the author showed premiums going down before the ACA, discredited the rest of his article.

[dcm1602]

It's been widely reported for years outside of the far right echo chamber.  I don't have the time or energy to sift through years of reports at the moment.

The fact that the author showed premiums going down before the ACA, discredited the rest of his article.

Well if it's widely reported it must be difficult to find

[Badger]

Private insurance isn't working well, prices are high and many people aren't able to afford their insane deductibles

FYP

[dcm1602]

FYP

I pay 260$ a year, and have little to no deductibles with my private insurance in network

But these people paying 600-1200 a month on Obama care with high deductible plans ranging in the several thousands don't seem very happy

[Badger]

I pay 260$ a year, and have little to no deductibles with my private insurance in network

But these people paying 600-1200 a month on Obama care with high deductible plans ranging in the several thousands don't seem very happy

Yeah, those insurance companies are freaking them pretty hard.

[dcm1602]

Yeah, those insurance companies are freaking them pretty hard.

I don't know anything about hunt individual insurance before but these high deductible packages are the crux of the ACA

[mj2sexay]

Rand Paul despises Trump. 

Humor me. Where on earth have you gotten this idea from? Rand's had ideological disagreements with the healthcare plan, but hes been pretty staunch in defending Trump in public.

[bojanglesman]

Whole government is mired in sludge, controversy and inaction.  Things can change quickly, but it looks like 4 years of a whole lot of nothing.  Nothing new I guess, just worse.