U.S. Politics

[Badger]

I voted for Sanders in the primary.  Held my nose and voted for Clinton in the general.  Clinton had nothing to do with the 'scandal'.  Screw the DNC.  The too cool for school Sanders supporters voting third party or not at all elected Trump, and they should own it as much as Russia.

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No.

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[Jumbo]

m'Russians

[Badger]

She just shitposted another article about how Sanders is to blame for white liberalism, or something.

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[dcm1602]

I voted for Sanders in the primary.  Held my nose and voted for Clinton in the general.  Clinton had nothing to do with the 'scandal'.  Screw the DNC.  The too cool for school Sanders supporters voting third party or not at all elected Trump, and they should own it as much as Russia.

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How is it the 3rd party Sanders voters fault Trump got elected?

Sanders is a joke even more out of touch with reality than Trump, and belongs nowhere near the white house. But he got absolutely majorly freaking railroaded by the DNC and Hillary Clinton in an extremely rigged corrupt process. They did America a favor for not voting for Clinton, by making the political parties see Americans don't want none of that fucked up excrement.

Republicans tried to do the same thing against Trump they just failed at it, and didn't have a machine as well oiled and powerful ad the Clinton's

[Fenwyr]

No.

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I didn't think you would like that.  I wasn't happy voting for Clinton, but not voting is stupid, and protest voting gets guys like Trump elected.

Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania

The no votes and protest votes would have made the difference.

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[Fenwyr]

How is it the 3rd party Sanders voters fault Trump got elected?

Sanders is a joke even more out of touch with reality than Trump, and belongs nowhere near the white house. But he got absolutely majorly freaking railroaded by the DNC and Hillary Clinton in an extremely rigged corrupt process. They did America a favor for not voting for Clinton, by making the political parties see Americans don't want none of that fucked up excrement.

Republicans tried to do the same thing against Trump they just failed at it, and didn't have a machine as well oiled and powerful ad the Clinton's

Saying Sanders is more out of touch than Trump?  Holy excrement dude.

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[dcm1602]

Saying Sanders is more out of touch than Trump?  Holy excrement dude.

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Trump at least thinks like a businessman, we're a capitalistic society. While he's a jerk off among other things, he at least can relate to that and his populist platform. Sanders just wanted unicorns and rainbows and world peace, via a bunch of unrealistic absurd mechanims completely out of touch with American principles.

[Badger]

I didn't think you would like that.  I wasn't happy voting for Clinton, but not voting is stupid, and protest voting gets guys like Trump elected.

Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania

The no votes and protest votes would have made the difference.

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Again, no.

A. Sanders did everything in his power to campaign for Clinton in the general.

B. I live in a blue state, you live in a swing state. I and one million of my closest friends could have voted for Stein and Clinton would still get NY's 29 electoral votes.

C. Give every Stein vote to Clinton and she still loses PA, OH, FL. I'm being generous in this scenario by not giving any Johnson votes to Trump. If you want to wildly speculate the number of Sanders voters that stayed home, go ahead, but it's just feeding the narrative of the DNC's blame shifting.

If they keep doing this excrement they will lose again.

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[Badger]

Trump at least thinks like a businessman

Step 1: inherit fortune and massive company

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[Badger]

http://deadsp.in/Vm9F8YV

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[Fenwyr]

Again, no.

A. Sanders did everything in his power to campaign for Clinton in the general.

B. I live in a blue state, you live in a swing state. I and one million of my closest friends could have voted for Stein and Clinton would still get NY's 29 electoral votes.

C. Give every Stein vote to Clinton and she still loses PA, OH, FL. I'm being generous in this scenario by not giving any Johnson votes to Trump. If you want to wildly speculate the number of Sanders voters that stayed home, go ahead, but it's just feeding the narrative of the DNC's blame shifting.

If they keep doing this excrement they will lose again.

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I will say again that I wish Bernie had won the nomination.  He would have killed Trump in the 3 states I listed.  All 3 went to Trump.  I should have included Bernie supporters that voted for Trump in my initial statement.

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[Fenwyr]

Trump at least thinks like a businessman, we're a capitalistic society. While he's a jerk off among other things, he at least can relate to that and his populist platform. Sanders just wanted unicorns and rainbows and world peace, via a bunch of unrealistic absurd mechanims completely out of touch with American principles.

The country is not a business.  You got excrement upside down, which is likely why you, and Trump, don't seem to get it.

In the simplest of terms, a company works for a CEO, a government works for the people.

Sanders would love to have unicorns and rainbows, but at least he understands the process, and just wants to take incremental steps.

All, all of Sanders agenda has a majority of citizen support when taken piece by piece without his name or a political party associated with it.  Fact.

Again, when asked in a vacuum, the vast majority of americans want:

Universal health care
Free public education
Improved infrastructure
Less money in politics
Increased minimum wage
Equal wages for equal work

Just to name a few.

They do not want:

Tax cuts for the rich
More wars
Defunding planned parenthood
Repealing the ACA

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[dcm1602]

Fact. Saying fact does not make something a fact.

Also a CEO works for the shareholders, which is much more similar to the government working for the people.

Of course its incredibly naive to think the government gives a freak about the people, because politicians biggest concern is really power and money, as well as backroom deals with their buddy's. That's both the left and right guilty of that

[Fenwyr]

Fact. Saying fact does not make something a fact.

Also a CEO works for the shareholders, which is much more similar to the government working for the people.

Of course its incredibly naive to think the government gives a freak about the people, because politicians biggest concern is really power and money, as well as backroom deals with their buddy's. That's both the left and right guilty of that

You're right.  Facts make facts fact.  Feel free to lookup any independant survey that proves me wrong on those points.

I know plenty of self serving politicians exist on both sides, but one side tries to double down on the self serving with actual legislation.



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[Badger]

I will say again that I wish Bernie had won the nomination.  He would have killed Trump in the 3 states I listed.  All 3 went to Trump.  I should have included Bernie supporters that voted for Trump in my initial statement.

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Now that we're somewhere on the same page I hope you can understand why I'd be annoyed by someone still shitting on him and his supporters across the board nearly half a year later. Not going to win any votes in 2020 if they're still telling people they're sexist for not voting for Clinton.