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« Reply #90 on: December 14, 2013, 02:46:19 PM »
Lol don't you know that accusing people that don't like BO of racism is soooo 2009?



But Rosa Parks ended racism in the 60's, right?

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« Reply #91 on: December 14, 2013, 02:46:24 PM »
Did he get re-elected because of Bush?  Don't be a freaking moron.

Yeah, pretty much.

2008: McCain = Bush!

2012: Romney = still Bush!

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« Reply #92 on: December 14, 2013, 02:49:39 PM »
Yeah, pretty much.

2008: McCain = Bush!

2012: Romney = Bush!

McCain had become Bush in 2008.  Senile old bastard lost his mind in that election.

I don't recall much if any comparisons between Romney and Bush.

Though you are probably just freaking with me and I missed your sarcasm.

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« Reply #93 on: December 14, 2013, 02:54:41 PM »
Did he get re-elected because of Bush?  Don't be a freaking moron.

Both parties believe in financial redistribution...  Dems favor people, Reps favor companies.  I would rather my tax dollars help the guy down the street than a billion dollar company or a foreign war.

As I asked, what has he signed into law that hasn't been moderate?  Provide an example or just stop trying.

Uhm how about Obamacare which he rammed through without republican support?

Big Govt involvement in your healthcare isn't moderate at all whatsoever.



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« Reply #94 on: December 14, 2013, 02:59:20 PM »
McCain had become Bush in 2008.  Senile old bastard lost his mind in that election.

I don't recall much if any comparisons between Romney and Bush.

Though you are probably just freaking with me and I missed your sarcasm.

Seriously?

Obamas entire campaign was "Romney = Bush"

Didn't Obama say several times that Romney was running for bushes third term or something like that during the debates?

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« Reply #95 on: December 14, 2013, 02:59:34 PM »
Uhm how about Obamacare which he rammed through without republican support?

Big Govt involvement in your healthcare isn't moderate at all whatsoever.




Unless you are a republican governor from Massachusetts?  Try again.

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« Reply #96 on: December 14, 2013, 03:00:03 PM »
Big Govt involvement in your healthcare isn't moderate at all whatsoever.

Do you ever stop to think about what you're writing, or do you just let the words flow wherever they may take you?
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« Reply #97 on: December 14, 2013, 03:00:34 PM »
Unless you are a republican governor from Massachusetts?  Try again.

Arguing with you is a complete waste of time if you think Obamacare is moderate

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« Reply #98 on: December 14, 2013, 03:02:18 PM »
Seriously?

Obamas entire campaign was "Romney = Bush"

Didn't Obama say several times that Romney was running for bushes third term or something like that during the debates?

His entire campaign?  Really?  I recall similar sentiments regarding McCain in 2008, but Romney was a hoo-ha that allowed the Tea Party to ruin his chances in 2012.

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« Reply #99 on: December 14, 2013, 03:02:33 PM »
Do you ever stop to think about what you're writing, or do you just let the words flow wherever they may take you?

You think Obamacare is moderate, taxing/penalizing people who don't have healthcare and increased regulations?

I'm not arguing whether it's good or bad, but theres no sane person on the freaking planet who thinks it's a moderate bill

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« Reply #100 on: December 14, 2013, 03:03:26 PM »
At this point I find it hard to imagine any incumbent president not being reelected without some sort of big scandal in their first term.

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« Reply #101 on: December 14, 2013, 03:05:53 PM »
Arguing with you is a complete waste of time if you think Obamacare is moderate

What's NOT moderate about it.  I wanted single payer.  Obama wanted single payer.  He made a compromise to ensure that people would be covered one way or the other.  If you don't see how it's going to save this country billions in the long term...  You need to go back to school.

The only waste of time is YOU talking politics.

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« Reply #102 on: December 14, 2013, 03:08:45 PM »
At this point I find it hard to imagine any incumbent president not being reelected without some sort of big scandal in their first term.

Dems couldn't get a decent challenger in 2004 and Reps couldn't get a decent challenger in 2012.  I think it has alot more to do with folks not wanting to challenge an incumbent.

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« Reply #103 on: December 14, 2013, 03:10:48 PM »
You think Obamacare is moderate, taxing/penalizing people who don't have healthcare and increased regulations?

I'm not arguing whether it's good or bad, but theres no sane person on the freaking planet who thinks it's a moderate bill

I wasn't talking about Obamacare, I was referring to your specific statement that "Big Govt involvement in your healthcare isn't moderate at all whatsoever." Moderate and indeed right wing governments all around the world are far more involved in healthcare than the US government, as they should be. Healthcare is a basic human right.
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« Reply #104 on: December 14, 2013, 03:11:29 PM »
Dems couldn't get a decent challenger in 2004 and Reps couldn't get a decent challenger in 2012.  I think it has alot more to do with folks not wanting to challenge an incumbent.

I just meant that the political/media landscape of today, as opposed to 20 years ago, is the reason why incumbents have it easy.

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