U.S. Politics

[dcm1602]

If you want to see how good the pipeline would be, package the bill with a massive reduction in the tax subsidies oil companies receive. Let's see if the pipeline ever gets built under those terms.

Can't you apply that logic to pretty much any industry?

Especially anyone with a union, and Aww what happens

[Pope]

This thread sucks

[Johnny English]

Going in a different direction, if I may. Sort of.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/11/20/3595067/walmart-food-drive-oklahoma/

Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin (R) has prohibited cities from enacting paid sick leave requirements.

I thought that one of the abiding principles of Republican politics was about small government, local governance and allowing people to determine their own local support infrastructures rather than have the big bad Federal government mandate such things. Why then is a state governor preventing local decision making? Isn't that Republicans being big government? It's almost like there's another agenda at work.

[Fenwyr]

Going in a different direction, if I may. Sort of.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/11/20/3595067/walmart-food-drive-oklahoma/

I thought that one of the abiding principles of Republican politics was about small government, local governance and allowing people to determine their own local support infrastructures rather than have the big bad Federal government mandate such things. Why then is a state governor preventing local decision making? Isn't that Republicans being big government? It's almost like there's another agenda at work.

Republicans not supporting big government is nothing more than an urban myth.  The republican house has blocked the will of the majority of the people in this country since January 2010.  The last republican president increased the size and scope of federal government more than any president preceding him in decades.

But I'm pretty sure you already knew that and were just trying to make a point.

[Tommy]

Well it seems to me having the ban in place worked just fine in getting production up. With the ban in place the US's production ramped up just fine. With net neutral oil production and usage, the ME would have zero influence on this country. There are also the strategic reserves, so not all oil is refined and shipped.

Also Exxon and Chevron etc all have vast production facilities and agreements in other countries. They don't need to export US originated oil. They can use or do whatever they want with oil produced from offshore sources. It's not like the oil produced here is their only source or their main source, it ain't.

Interesting article: http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-20/cheap-oil-era-tilts-geopolitical-power-to-u-s-.html


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[Miamipuck]

Interesting article: http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-20/cheap-oil-era-tilts-geopolitical-power-to-u-s-.html


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great thanks it will give me something to read on the plane tomorrow.

[ons]

So it turns out America tortuted a bunch of people. U-S-A!

[SixFeetDeep]

Obama gets the Tom Brady treatment from world leaders:

http://youtu.be/P2Pv1FTHR6c

[Tommy]

Oh what the hell happened there?

[Ignatius J Reilly]

That video is so old.  He's introducing them all, not trying to shake hands.

[Fenwyr]

Obama discovers cure for cancer.  Tea Party is outraged, saying cancer was Gods plan.  News at 11.

[Tommy]

That video is so old.  He's introducing them all, not trying to shake hands.

Ah, makes sense now.

[Tommy]

Obama discovers cure for cancer.  Tea Party is outraged, saying cancer was Gods plan.  News at 11.

No matter who's president there will be people to complain about every little thing they do.

[Johnny English]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/12/23/now-that-the-dow-has-hit-18000-let-us-remember-the-worst-op-ed-in-history/?tid=sm_fb

Gas prices at a crazy low, the Dow at an all time high. Thanks Obama.

(Yes, I know that neither of those are entirely down to him but given the inverse was apparently true according to conservative commentary a few years ago, I think we get to play the reverse now.)

[Tommy]

I thought raising taxes would have a more negative effect, but it's also impossible to say how much better the economy would be if he hadn't.

But the economy is fine, which means I couldn't care less about politics.

Though during the Bush years, even when the economy was booming and unemployment was close to 4pct, people still acted like he was personally shipping jobs overseas. Basically people are stupid and love to complain.