U.S. Politics

[Badger]

How the hell did that Keystone bill die? It's funny how Republican congressmen get a lot of crap, but the other side managed to convince their constituents that a routine pipeline project like this would be a bad idea?

Fuehrer proof that both sides will take the opposite position on almost anything, regardless whether it's edit or wrong.


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Obviously the few who stand to benefit from it didn't buy enough votes.

[Miamipuck]

Obviously the few who stand to benefit from it didn't buy enough votes.

Yeah, you would think those assholes would learn from their time in strip joints and with the high dollar escorts, make it rain baby, make it rain!

[Tommy]

Obviously the few who stand to benefit from it didn't buy enough votes.

The pipeline would generate about $3b in revenue. Also, there are already thousands of miles of pipelines all over the U.S., which by the way is the safest and most efficient way to transport oil. The opposition is just throwing around the environmental BS so they can shoot it down and brag about how they shot down "an environmental disaster waiting to happen." Politics at its worst. There's absolutely no reason to block this pipeline.


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[Badger]

The pipeline would generate about $3b in revenue.

Yes, for the few who stand to benefit from it.

[dcm1602]

Yes, for the few who stand to benefit from it.

Just all the employees who work for the pipeline companies the companies that produce and maintain its equipment, and all the town's where all these people reside.

3b dollars for any economy is a pretty good thing

[Badger]

Just all the employees who work for the pipeline companies the companies that produce and maintain its equipment, and all the town's where all these people reside.

3b dollars for any economy is a pretty good thing

Its effect on local economies and the number of long term jobs being created has been overstated.

Those companies aren't exactly hurting without it.

[Tommy]

Yes, for the few who stand to benefit from it.

Do you have any idea how the supply chain in the energy industry even works? The oil and gas industry alone in the U.S. employs close to a million Americans. Not to many that any increase in output and efficiency in transport will lower costs for most.

The idea that only the select few stand to benefit is BS, and I know you're smarter than that.


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[dcm1602]

Its effect on local economies and the number of long term jobs being created has been overstated.

Those companies aren't exactly hurting without it.

Look at states or cities that rely on either coal mines or the auto industry.

excrement like this can make or break huge cities.

[Tommy]

Its effect on local economies and the number of long term jobs being created has been overstated.

Those companies aren't exactly hurting without it.

Overstated maybe, but the critics of the pipeline have been wayyyy overstating any potential negatives. Just because people think the benefits "aren't that much" doesn't mean they should be against something that will be funded mostly by the private sector anyway.

It's pretty much like the government telling you that you can't expand your bar to include an outdoor area because it won't be all that beneficial, and it may be noisy for your neighbours.


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[Badger]

Look at states or cities that rely on either coal mines or the auto industry.

excrement like this can make or break huge cities.

When's the last time you've been to an oil/gas town? I'll wait.

[dcm1602]

When's the last time you've been to an oil/gas town? I'll wait.

When's the last time I went to a coal mining town, or auto industry town?

Just because I don't mumble around some excrement hole towns and cities in the Midwest doesn't mean they don't exist

[Badger]

When's the last time I went to a coal mining town, or auto industry town?

Just because I don't mumble around some excrement hole towns and cities in the Midwest doesn't mean they don't exist

What an awful straw man. I'm not saying they don't exist. I'm saying you don't know excrement about oil/gas towns.

[Tommy]

Forget about the towns, $3b injected into any industry is good for everyone.


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[Miamipuck]

When's the last time you've been to an oil/gas town? I'll wait.

WTF Badger? Without this pipeline, all the multiple 100 billion dollars of investments in new oil infrastructure and technology like fracking will collapse and die.

Where's your freaking humanity Badger?

[Tommy]

The oil will get refined and sold and hit the open market no matter what. The lack of this pipeline won't have an adverse effect on the industry, but it's silly to be against infrastructure improvements just because the industry that stands to benefit is unpopular for some reason. You more than anyone is outspoken against cheap political bullshit. This is a prime example except it's coming from the other side. Going against something for the sake of being against it.


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