U.S. Politics

[Badger]

Other systems don't work either.

People are stupid, selfish, lazy, and ignorant at best

It's relatively improbable Democrats take power next election.

Obama is the black Bush, it could take a good 6-8 years before the pendulum swings back. Instead well watch Obamacare slowly die and get dismantled

Then maybe we'll get single payer.

[dcm1602]

Then maybe we'll get single payer.

People weren't happy about Obamacare being far left. As it fails and gets dismantled (and this recent election shows people don't support it) you think suddenly they're gonna say maybe let's go even further left?

Democrats are gonna be extra cautious about messing around with healthcare too much in the immediate near future

[Badger]

People weren't happy about Obamacare being far left. As it fails and gets dismantled (and this recent election shows people don't support it) you think suddenly they're gonna say maybe let's go even further left?

Democrats are gonna be extra cautious about messing around with healthcare too much in the immediate near future

ACA was a turd, single payer actually has a shot at resolving serious issues with the healthcare system, which is currently a cruel joke.

[dcm1602]

ACA was a turd, single payer actually has a shot at resolving serious issues with the healthcare system, which is currently a cruel joke.

But whose going to trust the people who developed and forced that turd on the American people, and give them the power to completley revamp our healthcare system yet again?

[Johnny English]

ACA was a turd, single payer actually has a shot at resolving serious issues with the healthcare system, which is currently a cruel joke.

You only think that because you don't work hard enough. If you worked harder you'd get paid more and then you could buy all the healthcare you want. You only have yourself to blame because you're lazy and therefore undeserving of the good healthcare.

[Ignatius J Reilly]

Probably because the other party values lower class people of color  more than them.

They're fucked on the left, and fucked on the right

Aaaaand there's the attitude I'm talking about.

[AlioTheFool]

You only think that because you don't work hard enough. If you worked harder you'd get paid more and then you could buy all the healthcare you want. You only have yourself to blame because you're lazy and therefore undeserving of the good healthcare.

I saw a good tweet yesterday. I don't recall the exact wording but it was to the effect of: "Voting more will change politics is the civic equivalent of if the poor worked harder they'd be rich!"

[Badger]

I saw a good tweet yesterday. I don't recall the exact wording but it was to the effect of: "Voting more will change politics is the civic equivalent of if the poor worked harder they'd be rich!"

BTW what do you think of our fellow Stanner? I kind of soured on him in the last year or so, even though I align with him on most issues.

I didn't vote yesterday for several reasons, but I would have written in Zephyr Teachout for Governor.

[AlioTheFool]

BTW what do you think of our fellow Stanner? I kind of soured on him in the last year or so, even though I align with him on most issues.

I didn't vote yesterday for several reasons, but I would have written in Zephyr Teachout for Governor.

I don't have an issue with Cuomo. NY Governor is one of the least important governmental positions on my radar. It's wholly consumed with making the state happy, not the city. I'm always more interested in the NYC Mayor, who I cannot stand.

I literally know nothing about Teachout except for angry-at-Cuomo tweets one of my follows loves to RT. I was quite the uninformed voter this year.

[dcm1602]

Aaaaand there's the attitude I'm talking about.

You have kids right?

I'm assuming they're too young for this, but have you started applying for colleges with them?

[Fenwyr]

Some of them vote against themselves economically, but so do high income people.  A lot of them value social issues more, or they believe firmly that there's a lower group beneath them and that they need to prove themselves better.  It's no different from the poor whites who proudly defended slavery despite the fact none of them could ever hope to own a slave.  There's a lot of pride at stake.

High income people have that choice.  The poor whites who defended slavery were just dumb.

[Ignatius J Reilly]

You have kids right?

I'm assuming they're too young for this, but have you started applying for colleges with them?

Yes, they're too young, and yes we just sent off their early decision apps on the 1st.

[dcm1602]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/11/10/aca-architect-the-stupidity-of-the-american-voter-led-us-to-hide-obamacares-tax-hikes-and-subsidies-from-the-public/

[AlioTheFool]

Stupid kids. If only they realized that if they work harder they wouldn't be in their situation.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/Homelessness-hits-one-in-30-US-children/ar-BBekEKV?ocid=ansnewsafp11

[Tommy]

How the hell did that Keystone bill die? It's funny how Republican congressmen get a lot of crap, but the other side managed to convince their constituents that a routine pipeline project like this would be a bad idea?

Fuehrer proof that both sides will take the opposite position on almost anything, regardless whether it's edit or wrong.


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