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...And The Home Of The Jets / Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Last post by Badger on November 27, 2023, 10:17:54 PM »Damn, shoulda ran the Win play last weekThe Annexation of Puerto Rico
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...And The Home Of The Jets / Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Last post by reuben on November 27, 2023, 10:13:24 PM »Like what?
Those are just a few things. So I'll flip it to you. What are the "plenty of adjustments" Saleh's made that you claimed?
OK, for the sake of conversation, this is a list of adjustments I've seen the offense make throughout the year. I'm not including offensive line permutations. Nitpick as you see fit.
1. Working Xavier Gipson into the game (One snap for Gip in the first three weeks, 38 over the next three, >58% the last four weeks).
2. Dumping the Dalvin Cook Experiment after week 4. (<20% of snaps from week 5 to week 10).
3. Focusing more heavily on Garrett Wilson (One game with double-digit targets in the first five games, one game with single-digit targets in the last six).
4. I got the sense that Zach started making more and more pre-snap adjustments after the first three weeks.
5. I forget the game, but we came out running a hurry-up offense in one game. It's something that a lot of people have crowed about because Zach does well in the two-minute drill. It was minimally effective.
6. Cutting Michael Carter.
7. Demoting CJ Uzomah (queynte played three snaps in week 12 and still managed a false start. Unreal).
8. Benching Zach Wilson.
9. Moving Hackett up to the box.
10. Benching Allen Lazard for Jason Brownlee.
These are offensive moves I think were made at the head coach level. A lot of things I wanted to see happen have happened. Nothing has helped. I think one of the last available options is to change the playcaller. I think a subordinate will get the plays called in faster, because Hackett seems to waste ten seconds shaking a magic 8 ball every play. The plays themselves will still be vanilla excrement but at least they'll come in on time.
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...And The Home Of The Jets / Re: Breece Hall of Justice - The Return
« Last post by AlioTheFool on November 27, 2023, 09:26:55 PM »Given how impossible it is to move the ball, I suspect any Jet fan would.
I mentioned it elsewhere, Breece is averaging 0.0 yards per carry before contact since Breece got hurt. How is he (or any RB in NFL history) supposed to consistently move down the field with that type of blocking production? Especially when he’s getting like 10 rushing touches per game lately because we can’t convert 3rd downs and are running like 45 plays a game total.
But why isn't he better? If he's a star, he should be able to overcome all that, shouldn't he?
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...And The Home Of The Jets / Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Last post by AlioTheFool on November 27, 2023, 09:24:17 PM »Ok what is the move everyone wanted to see?
I called for weeks to put Breece and Cook in the backfield together. They did it a couple of times over the couple of games before this week, and they were successful. Yet, those plays disappeared from the playcalling--even in the same game. Whose idea is it to stop doing something that works? If it's Hackett's, then it's Bob's job to tell him to do it again till they stop them. If it's Saleh's, then he's a dumbass.
How about some Breece runs outside the tackles? Nah, let's just go up the gut for the 400th time.
Why is Dalvin Cook getting snaps over Abanikanda? Oh, pass pro, right? Can't remember who, but someone posted Cook allowed two sacks this week.
Those are just a few things. So I'll flip it to you. What are the "plenty of adjustments" Saleh's made that you claimed?
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...And The Home Of The Jets / Re: Breece Hall of Justice - The Return
« Last post by SixFeetDeep on November 27, 2023, 09:14:42 PM »Glad none of you folks are my boss.
"I know you do more than half the work in this 6 person department, but grind through lunch and find ways to get more done every day, will you?"
He’s made an impact in approximately 4/11 games this year
The rest there would be no dropoff between him and Ty Johnson
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...And The Home Of The Jets / Re: Breece Hall of Justice - The Return
« Last post by Libero_2 on November 27, 2023, 09:13:33 PM »He also has as many big plays as he has games with 25 yards rushing
I would trade a big play or 2 for moving down the field more consistently
Given how impossible it is to move the ball, I suspect any Jet fan would.
I mentioned it elsewhere, Breece is averaging 0.0 yards per carry before contact since Breece got hurt. How is he (or any RB in NFL history) supposed to consistently move down the field with that type of blocking production? Especially when he’s getting like 10 rushing touches per game lately because we can’t convert 3rd downs and are running like 45 plays a game total.
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...And The Home Of The Jets / Re: Breece Hall of Justice - The Return
« Last post by AlioTheFool on November 27, 2023, 09:13:07 PM »Glad none of you folks are my boss.
"I know you do more than half the work in this 6 person department, but grind through lunch and find ways to get more done every day, will you?"
"I know you do more than half the work in this 6 person department, but grind through lunch and find ways to get more done every day, will you?"
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...And The Home Of The Jets / Re: Breece Hall of Justice - The Return
« Last post by Libero_2 on November 27, 2023, 09:11:14 PM »He also has as many big plays as he has games with 25 yards rushing
I would trade a big play or 2 for moving down the field more consistently
Honest question for the fan base…
Which RB would you rather have in their 3rd year in the league
- Curtis Martin
- Breece Hall
Curtis was the master of consistency, but rarely a big play creator. Breece makes so many big plays, but is nowhere near as consistent to this point as Curtis was.
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...And The Home Of The Jets / Re: Breece Hall of Justice - The Return
« Last post by SixFeetDeep on November 27, 2023, 09:08:40 PM »Long run against the chiefs. His first touch of the season was a 20 something yarder against the Bills as well.
Collectively, the rest of the offense has what? Am I missing any big plays this year?
Slant route to the house by Garrett in week 2
Long pass to Lazard that’s under thrown against the chiefs
Deep ball from our goal line to Garrett in the Eagles game
Last two plays vs giants in regulation, 25-30 yards to Garret and then 25-30 for Lazard to put us in FG range
Garret had a 35 yard catch and run against the Raiders
Soooo Breece basically has the same number of big plays by himself that the rest of the offense has. He has 55% of our tds this season. I’m not sure how you can call him absent. He isn’t perfect, and clearly not Barry Sanders levels of elusive in that he can do it all on his own. But dude is freaking special, and we are wasting him (and Garrett) with this bullshit scheme and OL and QB talent right now.
He also has as many big plays as he has games with 25 yards rushing
I would trade a big play or 2 for moving down the field more consistently
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...And The Home Of The Jets / Re: Official Serious Debate: When was the last time the team was this depressing?
« Last post by SixFeetDeep on November 27, 2023, 09:05:27 PM »Wins.
Nothing else matters. While losses pile up, irrationality reigns supreme.
Damn, shoulda ran the Win play last week