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Title: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on December 27, 2022, 03:21:10 PM
Quarterback

Bryce Young - Alabama
Will Levis - Kentucky
CJ Stroud - Ohio State
Tanner McKee - Stanford
Anthony Richardson - Florida

Running Back

Bijan Robinson - Texas
Jahmyr Gibbs - Alabama
Tyjae Spears - Tulane
Keaton Mitchell - East Carolina
Kenny McIntosh - Georgia

Wideout

Jalin Hyatt - Tennessee
Jordan Addison - USC
Jaxon Smith-Njigba - Ohio State
Zay Flowers - Boston College
Josh Downs - North Carolina

Tight End

Michael Mayer - Notre Dame
Darnell Washington - Georgia
Cameron Latu - Alabama
Luke Musgrove - Oregon State
Dalton Kincaid - Utah

Offensive Tackle

Anton Harrison - Oklahoma
Darnell Wright - Tennessee
Broderick Jones - Georgia
Jaelyn Duncan - Maryland
Graham Barton - Duke

Interior Offensive Line

Peter Skoronski - Northwestern
O’Cyrus Torrence - Florida
John Michael Schmitz - Minnesota
Andrew Voorhees - USC
Luke Wypler - Ohio State

1.3.22
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on December 27, 2022, 03:24:40 PM
QB:  the worst class since 2013

RB:  loaded group, lots of different styles of back

WR:  another loaded group, especially with guys that can play inside/out

TE:  blue chip guy in Mayer but kinda overrated group (it's at least deep)

OT:  weak, no elite talent at the top

IOL:  Skoronski can probably play tackle in a pinch but I think he's elite inside (a lot like AVT)
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on December 27, 2022, 03:27:26 PM
Offensively, this is the year to draft interior offensive linemen and receivers...maybe another running hack
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Libero_2 on December 27, 2022, 03:40:30 PM
Offensively, this is the year to draft interior offensive linemen and receivers...maybe another running hack

I’m curious to see how the Cuse guys look in pre draft process. The RB Tucker was poorly utilized this year, and injured to boot. I think he could be a late round RB surprise this year. Lots of people talk about Bergeron as a potential 2nd-3rd round OT.

I want an OC of the future in this class. I’d love us to grab Smith-Njigba in round one, come back with OL in second and third rounds and get youth at LB and safety in the mid-late rounds.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Badger on December 27, 2022, 03:44:08 PM
I'm going to develop tunnel vision on tall WRs this off-season. I think there's a good chance Davis is gone and Wilson/Moore/Berrios are not big targets.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on December 27, 2022, 03:44:33 PM
I’m curious to see how the Cuse guys look in pre draft process. The RB Tucker was poorly utilized this year, and injured to boot. I think he could be a late round RB surprise this year. Lots of people talk about Bergeron as a potential 2nd-3rd round OT.

I want an OC of the future in this class. I’d love us to grab Smith-Njigba in round one, come back with OL in second and third rounds and get youth at LB and safety in the mid-late rounds.

I won't be surprised if Tucker has a solid NFL career.  It's a really deep RB class.  I think we're pretty set with Hall, Carter, and Knight but I won't be upset if we spend a mid-to-late rounder on another back. 

Addison, JSM, Flowers, and Downs are all so good.  Quentin Johnston and AT Perry are players to keep an eye on for the Jets because they offer elite size and RZ ability but I can't put them in the top five with the other guys.  Hyatt is more boom/bust because he's a speedster.  The other four are incredibly polished already. 
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on December 27, 2022, 03:47:40 PM
I'm going to develop tunnel vision on tall WRs this off-season. I think there's a good chance Davis is gone and Wilson/Moore/Berrios are not big targets.

There's some solid possession guys

TCU Quentin Johnston
Wake Forest AT Perry
Maryland Dontay Demus
Iowa State Xavier Hutchinson
Ole Miss Jonathan Mingo
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: MBGreen on December 27, 2022, 03:51:37 PM
Quote from: Heismanberg link=topic=5868.msg501565#msg501565 /

Interior Offensive Line

Peter Skoronski - Northwestern
O’Cyrus Torrence - Florida
John Michael Schmitz - Minnesota
Andrew Voorhees - USC
Luke Wypler - Ohio State

12.27.22

Steve Avila scoffs at the disrespect
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on December 27, 2022, 03:53:03 PM
Steve Avila scoffs at the disrespect

He's somewhere in the 6-8 range - it's a really good year for IOL

Skoronski and Voorhees are both tackles that I see as IOL
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: MBGreen on December 27, 2022, 03:55:42 PM
He's somewhere in the 6-8 range - it's a really good year for IOL

Skoronski and Voorhees are both tackles that I see as IOL
I figured he'd be higher because he's versatile enough to play C or Gord
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Libero_2 on December 27, 2022, 03:58:06 PM
I won't be surprised if Tucker has a solid NFL career.  It's a really deep RB class.  I think we're pretty set with Hall, Carter, and Knight but I won't be upset if we spend a mid-to-late rounder on another back. 

Addison, JSM, Flowers, and Downs are all so good.  Quentin Johnston and AT Perry are players to keep an eye on for the Jets because they offer elite size and RZ ability but I can't put them in the top five with the other guys.  Hyatt is more boom/bust because he's a speedster.  The other four are incredibly polished already. 

If tucker stays healthy he will be an NFL rotation back at worst, I have no doubts.

The WRs are awesome yet again. I’m a greedy bastard right now, give me another elite play making option. And the appeal of JSN is that Wilson knows him quite well and they’ve already coexisted and dominated together at OSU.

I want an offense riddled with playmakers that makes fanbases across the league jealous. If we can’t have an other world QB, then let’s make whatever QB we have look so good because we have young elite weapons and top tier protection in front of him. If the defense doesn’t take strides or only improves a little because we spent our best resources on offense, so be it.

And I like you Daron Payne idea. That guy next to Q? Sweet Jesus…
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on December 27, 2022, 04:08:36 PM
I figured he'd be higher because he's versatile enough to play C or Gord

I prefer prospects that can play tackle/guard over guard/center
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 27, 2022, 04:31:13 PM
Go get Jordan Addison.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Jumbo on December 27, 2022, 04:43:20 PM
QB:  the worst class since 2013

No way this is worse than last year just because Bryce Young exists. Otherwise, yeah it's rough. The fact that you can justify someone like Anthony Richardson as the 2nd QB off the board is not good.

Depending on where we land in the order, would love to grab a guy like JSN and pass the excrement out of the ball like LaFleur loves to do. Not sure on taking a stab at one of the OL in the first round with the class as it is.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Badger on December 27, 2022, 06:45:42 PM
There's some solid possession guys

TCU Quentin Johnston
Wake Forest AT Perry
Maryland Dontay Demus
Iowa State Xavier Hutchinson
Ole Miss Jonathan Mingo
Quentin is the only one of them I'm really familiar with, need to brush up on the rest.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on December 29, 2022, 01:48:22 PM
Minnesota RB Mo Ibrahim is going to be a steal for someone.  Underrated due to the Achilles injury last year. 
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Libero_2 on December 29, 2022, 01:51:22 PM
Minnesota RB Mo Ibrahim is going to be a steal for someone.  Underrated due to the Achilles injury last year. 

Syracuse can’t stop the run in general, but this dude is running everybody over. He is a monster, and a lot of fun to watch
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Johnny English on December 29, 2022, 01:57:33 PM
Minnesota RB Mo Ibrahim is going to be a steal for someone.  Underrated due to the Achilles injury last year. 

Funny, I was just watching the last few minutes of this game and thinking how good he looks. Don't know that I've ever heard of him or watched him before, I don't recall having seen a Minnesota game this year.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on December 29, 2022, 02:00:51 PM
Funny, I was just watching the last few minutes of this game and thinking how good he looks. Don't know that I've ever heard of him or watched him before, I don't recall having seen a Minnesota game this year.

Their center might be the best true interior OL player in this draft class. 

Ibrahim was fantastic a few seasons ago but popped his Achilles.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: reuben on December 29, 2022, 02:03:14 PM
QB:  the worst class since 2013

No way it's worse than last year. 

edit: what jumbo said
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on December 29, 2022, 02:39:04 PM
No way it's worse than last year. 

edit: what jumbo said

a 5'11 190 QB is not moving the needle for me

Nix dropping out of the class sets it back
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: delavan on December 29, 2022, 03:50:14 PM
I prefer prospects that can play tackle/guard over guard/center

Cooper Beebe.  First team Big XII at OT; has OG length arms.  Young, will still be 21 when drafted--nasty bit of a prick as well.  Minny C Schmidt while solid will be 24 by comparison.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on December 29, 2022, 03:57:12 PM
Minny C Schmidt while solid will be 24 by comparison.

Michigan's center is an old prospect too
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: delavan on December 30, 2022, 12:40:35 PM
Michigan's center is an old prospect too
Yup.  I had mentioned Cooper Beebe as a preferred OT/OG prospect vs. OG/C.

Right now Duke Mayo Bowl, NC St. vs. Maryland (Tua’s little bro QB’ing). the Terps LT Jaelyn Duncan has been looking pretty solid esp. in pass pro.  Nice feet for his size.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on December 30, 2022, 04:27:51 PM
Right now Duke Mayo Bowl, NC St. vs. Maryland (Tua’s little bro QB’ing). the Terps LT Jaelyn Duncan has been looking pretty solid esp. in pass pro.  Nice feet for his size.

Duncan is a solid fit for our scheme.  He's a good athlete.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: casman02 on December 30, 2022, 05:12:16 PM
Spencer Rattler should be higher

-Signed an excited rooster fan
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on December 30, 2022, 06:08:44 PM
Spencer Rattler should be higher

-Signed an excited rooster fan

Ugliest player I’ve ever seen, so no
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Badger on January 02, 2023, 12:05:11 PM
https://twitter.com/ConnorJRogers/status/1609971317486362625?s=19
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Libero_2 on January 02, 2023, 05:55:26 PM
The WRs are awesome yet again. I’m a greedy bastard right now, give me another elite play making option. And the appeal of JSN is that Wilson knows him quite well and they’ve already coexisted and dominated together at OSU.

I want an offense riddled with playmakers that makes fanbases across the league jealous. If we can’t have an other world QB, then let’s make whatever QB we have look so good because we have young elite weapons and top tier protection in front of him. If the defense doesn’t take strides or only improves a little because we spent our best resources on offense, so be it.

Based on current draft pick and projections…

Trade down to 20, pick up a second, draft JSN - Profit
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on January 02, 2023, 06:35:21 PM
Who’s throwing them the football?
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Badger on January 02, 2023, 07:02:05 PM
Who’s throwing them the football?
WRs draw straws before each possession and the loser plays QB.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Libero_2 on January 02, 2023, 08:10:43 PM
Who’s throwing them the football?

In 2023? No one of value. My thought is straight forward, if our QB isn’t going to be good anyways, make his job as easy as possible by overloading him with skill position talent. If someone’s always open, his job will be so much easier

In 2024? Hopefully someone good
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on January 03, 2023, 09:26:51 AM
made a small adjustment at OT after the first round of playoff games

Paris Johnson out, Graham Barton in
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on January 06, 2023, 11:54:27 AM
https://247sports.com/college/east-carolina/Article/Keaton-Mitchell-ECU-Football-NFL-Draft-Declares-201948979/

plz Joe
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 06, 2023, 12:38:33 PM
https://247sports.com/college/east-carolina/Article/Keaton-Mitchell-ECU-Football-NFL-Draft-Declares-201948979/

plz Joe

I thought RBs don’t matter
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on January 06, 2023, 01:03:32 PM
I thought RBs don’t matter

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgwEvjvXYAMgDpW?format=jpg&name=900x900)

My favorite coffee mug

(I'm a big fan of backs that you can get outside of the first round that can score from anywhere on the field, run or pass)
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Libero_2 on January 06, 2023, 06:41:17 PM
So I’m finally watching the Georgia / OSU semi final

Stroud was pretty damn impressive. I think it was better than any performance by fields and better than Lawrence’s second CFP stint.

Interesting to see how he people view him coming off this performance. Especially since it would be so easy to discount Bryce Young due to his size
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on January 06, 2023, 06:47:28 PM
So I’m finally watching the Georgia / OSU semi final

Stroud was pretty damn impressive. I think it was better than any performance by fields and better than Lawrence’s second CFP stint.

Interesting to see how he people view him coming off this performance. Especially since it would be so easy to discount Bryce Young due to his size

CJ Stroud is Geno Smith Jr.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Johnny English on January 06, 2023, 07:34:38 PM
CJ Stroud is Geno Smith Jr.

Not as cunty
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Libero_2 on January 06, 2023, 08:02:59 PM
CJ Stroud is Geno Smith Jr.

Can we just hire Ryan Day as our next coach?
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Jumbo on January 08, 2023, 12:26:23 AM
Can we just hire Ryan Day as our next coach?

Day is a great college coach. He should stay there. He would be a Rhule level disaster in the NFL. His in-game coaching any time he's not winning by 20 in the 3rd quarter is disasterclass
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on January 08, 2023, 12:47:27 AM
Day is a great college coach. He should stay there. He would be a Rhule level disaster in the NFL. His in-game coaching any time he's not winning by 20 in the 3rd quarter is disasterclass

He’s 45-6…and three of those losses are in the CFP.

You’re over-exaggerating his in-game flaws as a HC because he’s had losses in games everyone is watching.

Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Jumbo on January 08, 2023, 01:29:44 AM
He’s 45-6…and three of those losses are in the CFP.

You’re over-exaggerating his in-game flaws as a HC because he’s had losses in games everyone is watching.



Day is 2-3 in games decided by 1 possession over his 4 seasons as full time HC at OSU.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Libero_2 on January 08, 2023, 05:37:25 AM
Day is 2-3 in games decided by 1 possession over his 4 seasons as full time HC at OSU.

I’m going to assume 2 of those three losses are in the CFP. And oh by the way the most recent one he had the best team in the country on the ropes until his corner slipped. Despite missing half his premier weapons, he got Strouds best day of his life, and had them in position to win it with a 48 yard kick that his kicker shanked. If his kicker makes that kick, are you making the same argument right now?
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: delavan on January 08, 2023, 11:21:59 AM
MLF    Brian Hartline
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Derek Smalls on January 08, 2023, 01:27:14 PM
I’m going to assume 2 of those three losses are in the CFP. And oh by the way the most recent one he had the best team in the country on the ropes until his corner slipped. Despite missing half his premier weapons, he got Strouds best day of his life, and had them in position to win it with a 48 yard kick that his kicker shanked. If his kicker makes that kick, are you making the same argument right now?
I'm not sold on Day as a head coach at the NFL level either.

I don't know if he would be a Rhule-level disaster because I think Day has a legit offense he can bring to the NFL and if that works out, then the rest can be taught.

But he's not a good in-game coach.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Jumbo on January 08, 2023, 03:40:43 PM
I’m going to assume 2 of those three losses are in the CFP. And oh by the way the most recent one he had the best team in the country on the ropes until his corner slipped. Despite missing half his premier weapons, he got Strouds best day of his life, and had them in position to win it with a 48 yard kick that his kicker shanked. If his kicker makes that kick, are you making the same argument right now?

Even if he won, he would be 3-2 in 4 years. 5 one possession games in 4 years. Yeah he's winning most of them but that's college football at a powerhouse. Odds are higher you're getting Rhule than Jimmy Johnson and we aren't a 90s Cowboys sort of roster.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on January 08, 2023, 06:57:52 PM
45-6

Not good enough
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Derek Smalls on January 08, 2023, 08:08:52 PM
45-6

Not good enough
We should hire Urban Meyer then. He had a great record in college.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on January 08, 2023, 09:19:11 PM
We should hire Urban Meyer then. He had a great record in college.

Yeah, because Ryan Day has been as unstable as Urban Meyer.

Day is the best NFL HC option at the college level and it’s not particularly close right now.  You could say it’s Harbaugh but he’s a nutjob.

Him losing to Clemson and Georgia and whoever else in close games shouldn’t be a strike against him.  Those were better teams.

Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Libero_2 on January 09, 2023, 04:38:48 PM
Yeah, because Ryan Day has been as unstable as Urban Meyer.

Day is the best NFL HC option at the college level and it’s not particularly close right now.  You could say it’s Harbaugh but he’s a nutjob.

Him losing to Clemson and Georgia and whoever else in close games shouldn’t be a strike against him.  Those were better teams.

The fact he got his team into a “close game” against superior talents, should be a gold star. Christ what he did to Clemson with Fields as his QB in the playoff? Absolutely freaking nuts how good his game plan was
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Cane on January 21, 2023, 02:55:45 AM
I’ve been going through the tackles, and I see we might share some opinions of the guys at the top.

I have Anton Harrison and Broderick Jones as my 1 and 1A right now. While different, those guys seem to have more developed skillsets without a huge question mark in their games.

Darnell Wright is 3rd for me, but still right there with the above group. At his size you’d think he wouldn’t have the feet that he does, but he’s smooth. Then he anchors down and is just too strong for people. He also uses his initial punch better than maybe anyone in the class. Really good player.

The one guy I seem to like more than most is Tyler Steen. I don’t know how he’ll measure because he looks like he lacks length, but he has the technique down. Really a pleasure to watch.

Paris Johnson looks raw and, honestly, weak. His teammate is better, even though he has his own limitations.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on January 21, 2023, 08:49:00 AM
Paris Johnson looks raw and, honestly, weak. His teammate is better, even though he has his own limitations.

The more I watch him, the more I think he might be a better fit at guard
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Cane on January 21, 2023, 03:16:02 PM
The more I watch him, the more I think he might be a better fit at guard
He’s the kind of guy I’d be excited about getting on day 3 to develop, but I don’t see the hype that he’s getting outside of the traits. Guard in a scheme that works on angles and movement is probably the best bet for what he is now.


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Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on January 23, 2023, 01:13:22 PM
Quarterback

Bryce Young - Alabama
Will Levis - Kentucky
CJ Stroud - Ohio State
Tanner McKee - Stanford
Anthony Richardson - Florida

Running Back

Bijan Robinson - Texas
Jahmyr Gibbs - Alabama
Keaton Mitchell - East Carolina
Tyjae Spears - Tulane
Devon Achane - Texas A&M

Wideout

Jaxon Smith-Njigba - Ohio State
Jordan Addison - USC
Jalin Hyatt - Tennessee
Zay Flowers - Boston College
Josh Downs - North Carolina

Tight End

Michael Mayer - Notre Dame
Darnell Washington - Georgia
Luke Musgrave - Oregon State
Cameron Latu - Alabama
Dalton Kincaid - Utah

Offensive Tackle

Anton Harrison - Oklahoma
Darnell Wright - Tennessee
Broderick Jones - Georgia
Jaelyn Duncan - Maryland
Paris Johnson - Ohio State

Interior Offensive Line

Peter Skoronski - Northwestern
Andrew Vorhees - USC
O’Cyrus Torrence - Florida
John Michael Schmitz - Minnesota
Luke Wypler - Ohio State

1.23.23 (removed underclassmen that didn't declare)
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: delavan on January 25, 2023, 09:41:06 AM
Kiper has OSU’s Stroud going (#2 Texans) and Johnson (#11 Titans) and the Jets picking Smith-Njigba

https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/01/25/espn-mel-kiper-jr-puts-three-ohio-state-football-players-in-2023-nfl-mock-draft/69839669007/
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: MBGreen on January 25, 2023, 10:16:31 AM
Kiper has OSU’s Stroud going (#2 Texans) and Johnson (#11 Titans) and the Jets picking Smith-Njigba

https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/01/25/espn-mel-kiper-jr-puts-three-ohio-state-football-players-in-2023-nfl-mock-draft/69839669007/

wrong thread, mang.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Badger on January 25, 2023, 10:19:50 AM
wrong thread, mang.
What if you had the power to move posts...
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: MBGreen on January 25, 2023, 02:08:18 PM
What if you had the power to move posts...

then i wouldn't need you?
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Badger on January 29, 2023, 03:38:06 PM
From TDN's scouting report on Anthony Richardson:

Quote
Richardson’s improvements are centered around his accuracy. While Richardson has a strong arm, ball placement and location are a couple key elements that Richardson appears to be inconsistent with. It appears Richardson’s accuracy comes from his mechanics. When he can operate correctly mechanically, everything looks good. When he doesn’t quite execute proper mechanics, it leads to missed throws, incompletions, tipped throws, or interceptions.

Blach Wilson
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on March 01, 2023, 04:59:52 PM
Quarterback

Bryce Young - Alabama
Will Levis - Kentucky
CJ Stroud - Ohio State
Tanner McKee - Stanford
Anthony Richardson - Florida

Running Back

Bijan Robinson - Texas
Devon Achane - Texas A&M
Jahmyr Gibbs - Alabama
Keaton Mitchell - East Carolina
Tyjae Spears - Tulane

Wideout

Jaxon Smith-Njigba - Ohio State
Jordan Addison - USC
Jalin Hyatt - Tennessee
Zay Flowers - Boston College
Josh Downs - North Carolina

Tight End

Michael Mayer - Notre Dame
Darnell Washington - Georgia
Dalton Kincaid - Utah
Luke Musgrave - Oregon State
Cameron Latu - Alabama

Offensive Tackle

Anton Harrison - Oklahoma
Darnell Wright - Tennessee
Broderick Jones - Georgia
Jaelyn Duncan - Maryland
Paris Johnson - Ohio State

Interior Offensive Line

Peter Skoronski - Northwestern
John Michael Schmitz - Minnesota
Andrew Vorhees - USC
O’Cyrus Torrence - Florida
Luke Wypler - Ohio State

3.1.23
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Libero_2 on March 01, 2023, 05:26:48 PM
I’m curious about your Paris Johnson ranking. So many talk like he’s the slam dunk OT in this class, yet you have him 5th. I’ve seen you suggest he’s better inside, yet he is not on you interior rankings (which Skoronski is, but he is t outside even though many also say he’s a tackle)

What’s the biggest reason you aren’t as high on him as the consensus seems to be?
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on March 01, 2023, 05:36:56 PM
I’m curious about your Paris Johnson ranking. So many talk like he’s the slam dunk OT in this class, yet you have him 5th. I’ve seen you suggest he’s better inside, yet he is not on you interior rankings (which Skoronski is, but he is t outside even though many also say he’s a tackle)

What’s the biggest reason you aren’t as high on him as the consensus seems to be?

I think Skoronski is a surefire guard, while I think Johnson and Jones can play guard but are probably tackles in the NFL.  Sko can likely play tackle in a pinch but he's a great fit inside at guard or maybe even center. 

Johnson's a really good athlete at the position but he gets pushed around too much and isn't great in the run game.  I wasn't big on AVT as a tackle for similar reasons.  I think Johnson will end up ahead of Duncan when things shake out.  Interested to see measurements. 

None of these tackles are slam dunks.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on March 01, 2023, 05:39:26 PM
Darnell Wright seems like a safe pick to me as a right tackle. 
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: reuben on March 01, 2023, 05:50:07 PM
Schmitty SZN
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Libero_2 on March 01, 2023, 06:02:22 PM
I think Skoronski is a surefire guard, while I think Johnson and Jones can play guard but are probably tackles in the NFL.  Sko can likely play tackle in a pinch but he's a great fit inside at guard or maybe even center. 

Johnson's a really good athlete at the position but he gets pushed around too much and isn't great in the run game.  I wasn't big on AVT as a tackle for similar reasons.  I think Johnson will end up ahead of Duncan when things shake out.  Interested to see measurements. 

None of these tackles are slam dunks.

What you just explained is why Skoronski is the guy I’d want most. NFL guys seem to think he can play outside, although i suspect post combine that number will decrease. I think everyone expects he will be a slam dunk inside (ala AVT) add in he might be able to play C? I’m all in. Our line is going to shift around in the coming years with Laken likely canned after this year. Skoronski could play C or OG (maybe OT), AVT can play OG or OT. If Skoronski is at C and AVT is at OG we could bring in McGlinchey to play OT. If AVT plays OT, Skoronski could be our OG.

Makes too much sense to me
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Cane on March 04, 2023, 07:27:30 AM
I’m curious about your Paris Johnson ranking. So many talk like he’s the slam dunk OT in this class, yet you have him 5th. I’ve seen you suggest he’s better inside, yet he is not on you interior rankings (which Skoronski is, but he is t outside even though many also say he’s a tackle)

What’s the biggest reason you aren’t as high on him as the consensus seems to be?
The amount of tackles who have succeeded when the first thought is that they lacks power is really slim. I think he’s a great athlete and can impress with his movement, but it’s hard to overcome it when that natural strength is limited.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Cane on March 04, 2023, 07:29:18 AM
What you just explained is why Skoronski is the guy I’d want most. NFL guys seem to think he can play outside, although i suspect post combine that number will decrease. I think everyone expects he will be a slam dunk inside (ala AVT) add in he might be able to play C? I’m all in. Our line is going to shift around in the coming years with Laken likely canned after this year. Skoronski could play C or OG (maybe OT), AVT can play OG or OT. If Skoronski is at C and AVT is at OG we could bring in McGlinchey to play OT. If AVT plays OT, Skoronski could be our OG.

Makes too much sense to me
I think the center/IOL class is too deep to take Skoronski in the first. Like you can get Schmitz or Tippman in the second for the same idea and they can start tomorrow.


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Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on March 21, 2023, 01:20:35 PM
Darnell Wright in the first and John Michael Schmitz in the second. 
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Andrew Ryan on March 24, 2023, 06:47:19 PM
I'm fine with whichever tackle Joe D thinks is best at our pick.
Title: Re: 2023 JetOffensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: loyaljetsfan on March 29, 2023, 07:50:02 PM
Vegas Odds for first OL taken:

Paris Johnson -155
Skoronski +190
Broderick Jones + 500
Darnell Wright +1500

I like the Skoronski odds