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Title: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on November 08, 2022, 08:26:50 PM
Cash said a bunch of stuff today. Discuss.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: delavan on November 08, 2022, 08:37:43 PM
Good
https://www.si.com/mlb/yankees/news/what-luis-severino-return-2023-season-club-option-means-new-york-yankees-rotation

Not so good
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10055136-josh-donaldson-to-remain-yankees-3b-next-season-despite-struggles-brian-cashman-says
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on November 09, 2022, 06:26:19 AM
LeMahieu is under contract through 2026 and we have Cabrera/Peraza and soon Volpe to play with. There's no good reason JD should be regularly starting.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 09, 2022, 09:20:08 AM
LeMahieu is under contract through 2026 and we have Cabrera/Peraza and soon Volpe to play with. There's no good reason JD should be regularly starting.

There's not even a poor reason he should even be on the roster
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on November 09, 2022, 09:38:30 AM
There's not even a poor reason he should even be on the roster
How about as an insanely expensive defensive sub?
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Johnny English on November 09, 2022, 09:56:13 AM
Josh played the best ball of his career under John Gibbons, so it's pretty obvious what you need to do.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 09, 2022, 10:38:37 AM
What is Cashman supposed to say? He is always going to hype up the guys under contract.

I hope Josh is gone. Not a fun player to root for and he couldn't hit this year. I dont know if he will be back or not, but Cashman isn't going to tip his hand publicly either way.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on November 09, 2022, 10:51:40 AM
What is Cashman supposed to say? He is always going to hype up the guys under contract.

I hope Josh is gone. Not a fun player to root for and he couldn't hit this year. I dont know if he will be back or not, but Cashman isn't going to tip his hand publicly either way.
Yeah but still (freak that guy)
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 09, 2022, 10:54:52 AM
What is Cashman supposed to say? He is always going to hype up the guys under contract.

I hope Josh is gone. Not a fun player to root for and he couldn't hit this year. I dont know if he will be back or not, but Cashman isn't going to tip his hand publicly either way.

He said exactly what he should have. It’s gonna be impossible to move that contract, let’s not broadcast it to the world that he’s washed. He was great defensively and should perform better offensively next year after an outlier down year. These things are true

He’s very washed though
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Heismanberg on November 09, 2022, 12:10:26 PM
You guys should bring back Chase Headley
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: mj2sexay on November 09, 2022, 08:32:12 PM
Donaldson is going to be on the roster. So is Hicks. People aren't taking on those contracts unless the Yanks pay a significant portion of it. Something Hal will be reluctant to do.

There's absolutely zero reason either of them need to be playing regularly, especially if DJ comes back healthy, or if they think one of the young kids are ready and can move IKF back to a position in which he won a gold glove.

What would everyones plan be for free agency outside of retaining Judge? I think the bullpen should be a point of emphasis and wouldn't mind a guy like an Andrew Chafin, wouldn't mind Seth Lugo, wouldn't mind bringing back Green, etc. but the top reliever market now that Diaz is out of play looks like excrement. Kenley can't get through a year with his health intact and has never been good in the big spot. I want no part of Kimbrel.

First base, if Rizzo gets out of hand I think the obvious pivot is Abreu. 
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on November 09, 2022, 08:38:09 PM
Sign Carlos Rodon
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: mj2sexay on November 09, 2022, 08:48:48 PM
Sign Carlos Rodon

I'd love Rodon.

A rotation (health permitting of course) of Cole, Rodon, Nestor, Sevvy, and whoever wins a battle out of Montas/German/Schmidt would be pretty freaking gross.

Not for nothing, but it would further drive home how Monty had to be sacrificed to the alter of Bader. And I'm not in a charitable mood when it comes to Cash these days.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 09, 2022, 08:58:45 PM
Donaldson is going to be on the roster. So is Hicks. People aren't taking on those contracts unless the Yanks pay a significant portion of it. Something Hal will be reluctant to do.

There's absolutely zero reason either of them need to be playing regularly, especially if DJ comes back healthy, or if they think one of the young kids are ready and can move IKF back to a position in which he won a gold glove.

What would everyones plan be for free agency outside of retaining Judge? I think the bullpen should be a point of emphasis and wouldn't mind a guy like an Andrew Chafin, wouldn't mind Seth Lugo, wouldn't mind bringing back Green, etc. but the top reliever market now that Diaz is out of play looks like excrement. Kenley can't get through a year with his health intact and has never been good in the big spot. I want no part of Kimbrel.

First base, if Rizzo gets out of hand I think the obvious pivot is Abreu. 

If they missed out on Judge I would want to sign an impact bat and a top line SP

Trea Turner, Carlos Correa, Willson Contreras move the needle for me.
Xander or Dansby would be great additions but probably not game changers.

Rodon, deGrom, Verlander for SPs
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: mj2sexay on November 09, 2022, 08:59:56 PM
If they missed out on Judge I would want to sign an impact bat and a top line SP

Trea Turner, Carlos Correa, Willson Contreras move the needle for me.
Xander or Dansby would be great additions but probably not game changers.

Rodon, deGrom, Verlander for SPs

Am I just in denial that Judge is out the door?

If he does go, a lot more needs to be made about Cashman's completely idiotic decision to go public with the terms they offered him before the year. There was absolutely no upside to it.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 09, 2022, 09:01:38 PM
Realistically?

They’re fucked if they don’t re-sign Judge. That man carried this team this summer.

If they don’t re-sign him, that has massive short term and long term ramifications.

I wouldn’t be shocked if they went back to the drawing board if they don’t get him back.

Why would they spend a bunch of money on other FA’s but wouldn’t be willing to spend it on Judge?

In other words, Plan A (sign Judge) and Plan B might look vastly different in terms of spending and approach this offseason.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 09, 2022, 09:04:40 PM
Quote
"[Brian] Cashman said he didn’t have a 2023 payroll figure from Steinbrenner yet and called it “a developing story” because the 'right-field situation will tell us a lot, too.' "

I think you can read this quote 2 ways:

1) they would have very little payroll budget left after a potential Judge re-signing

Or

2) a Judge re-signing opens up the possibility of passing the higher luxury tax tiers. They clearly need more players besides just him. If he’s not back that extra spending wouldn’t be worth the return
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 09, 2022, 09:07:40 PM
Am I just in denial that Judge is out the door?

If he does go, a lot more needs to be made about Cashman's completely idiotic decision to go public with the terms they offered him before the year. There was absolutely no upside to it.

Hal Steinbrenner will determine if Judge is back or not.

Cashman would probably give him a blank check. He engages in a lot of GM speak to keep negotiations close, but the guy knows more than anyone what Judge is worth.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 09, 2022, 09:09:40 PM
Quote
Giants head of baseball ops Farhan Zaidi, prominently linked to Aaron Judge: "I think from a financial standpoint there’s nobody that would be out of our capability. And then it’ll just be a question of whether there’s mutual interest."

Passan RT’d this tonight

You’re on, Hal.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: mj2sexay on November 09, 2022, 09:14:40 PM
I think you can read this quote 2 ways:
they would have very little payroll budget left after a potential Judge re-signing

Given how Hal has operated the purse that is absolutely probable.

The old days of win at all costs, spend whatever you need to died with George. You can't tell me this team doesn't gain more revenue then the Dodgers and the Mets and therefore should have a similar payroll.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on November 09, 2022, 09:17:37 PM
Realistically?

They’re fucked if they don’t re-sign Judge. That man carried this team this summer.

If they don’t re-sign him, that has massive short term and long term ramifications.

I wouldn’t be shocked if they went back to the drawing board if they don’t get him back.

Why would they spend a bunch of money on other FA’s but wouldn’t be willing to spend it on Judge?

In other words, Plan A (sign Judge) and Plan B might look vastly different in terms of spending and approach this offseason.
If they don't re-sign Judge they might as well strip the team for parts like the Marlins.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 09, 2022, 09:44:29 PM
If they don't re-sign Judge they might as well strip the team for parts like the Marlins.

Right? What’s the point in competing with this squad if you won’t give them the best chance to win
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 10, 2022, 09:18:21 AM
Quote
Heyman: “Responding to a comment by one person who’d spoken recently to the Yankees camp and suggested they didn’t seem overly confident or interested in re-signing Judge, Cashman said, ‘Whoever said that, I’d drug test him.’”
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 10, 2022, 09:19:42 AM
Given how Hal has operated the purse that is absolutely probable.

The old days of win at all costs, spend whatever you need to died with George. You can't tell me this team doesn't gain more revenue then the Dodgers and the Mets and therefore should have a similar payroll.

George answered to George, Hal answers to the board that want this franchise run like a business
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 10, 2022, 04:33:53 PM
Heyman: “The Yankees are showing interest in outfielder Masataka Yoshida, an outstanding hitter with a career slash line of .326/.419/.538.”

Heyman: “The Yankees’ top outfield target is obviously Aaron Judge, but they’d like two outfielders, with the second one (assuming they can re-sign Judge) preferably left-handed. Yoshida, 29, drew attention with a .447 on-base percentage this past season”


Give me Yoshi
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 14, 2022, 12:21:24 PM
https://twitter.com/mikemayer22/status/1592211416244944896?s=46&t=fPmJsiaec4t7GZ9lV8Znkg

Ghost forkball eh
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Heismanberg on November 14, 2022, 12:22:17 PM
https://twitter.com/mikemayer22/status/1592211416244944896?s=46&t=fPmJsiaec4t7GZ9lV8Znkg

Ghost forkball eh

my guy will sign with the Marlins
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 15, 2022, 08:08:50 PM
Nobody beats the Rizz
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 15, 2022, 08:09:07 PM
https://twitter.com/yankeesmuse/status/1592669991232761857?s=42&t=kw4UQHYJqZ_AY3IMTcqRcg

Top 5 manager in the AL confirmed
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 01, 2022, 08:29:36 AM
https://twitter.com/ny_evilempire/status/1597779728597151744?s=46&t=sOJV_Dn123SV2QtPTiEvBQ

My offseason plan:
Sign Masahiro Gardner
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on December 05, 2022, 12:15:43 PM
Sign Carlos Rodon
I'd love Rodon.

A rotation (health permitting of course) of Cole, Rodon, Nestor, Sevvy, and whoever wins a battle out of Montas/German/Schmidt would be pretty freaking gross.

Not for nothing, but it would further drive home how Monty had to be sacrificed to the alter of Bader. And I'm not in a charitable mood when it comes to Cash these days.
Heyman better not be freaking with us
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: MBGreen on December 05, 2022, 02:04:59 PM
New York Yankees
@Yankees
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4m
Official
The New York Yankees today announced that the club has re-signed Brian Cashman to a four-year contract through the 2026 season to continue serving as Senior Vice President and General Manager.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 06, 2022, 07:49:08 AM
I'm not a Cashman fan, but whatever. We could do worse

The only signing I care about has me sweating every day
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on December 06, 2022, 08:21:25 AM
I'm not a Cashman fan, but whatever. We could do worse

The only signing I care about has me sweating every day
Apparently Passan said decision tomorrow?
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: MBGreen on December 06, 2022, 10:42:37 AM
Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
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9m
Tommy Kahnle to Yankees. $11.5M, 2 years.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: delavan on December 06, 2022, 10:43:22 AM
Tommy Kahnie 3.0?
https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1600166553256808448

edit: MB you. just beat me to it.  So, are the BJ's signing Frankenstein face away from the Yankees?  : )

Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: MBGreen on December 06, 2022, 10:45:25 AM
Tommy Kahnie 3.0?
https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1600166553256808448

edit: MB you. just beat me to it.  So, are the BJ's signing Frankenstein face away from the Yankees?  : )



I don't know what the jays are doing....other than "nothing" so far.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 06, 2022, 12:19:59 PM
I like Kahnle. I didn't want them to dump him in the first place. Solid bullpen move
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 06, 2022, 12:21:45 PM
Criminal that Donnie Baseball has again been snubbed for Cooperstown
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: MBGreen on December 06, 2022, 04:38:03 PM
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Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 06, 2022, 04:43:50 PM
Jon Heyman, not great.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: mj2sexay on December 06, 2022, 06:31:08 PM
Susan Slusser was also reporting Judge to San Fran but seemed to walk it back.

Judge's reps putting that out their to pimp one final offer from the Yanks?

I've thought he was gone since free agency hit-it'd be devastating, no question. If I'm another big ticket player though, I'm waiting to see the Yanks desperation pivot.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 06, 2022, 06:49:04 PM
Susan Slusser was also reporting Judge to San Fran but seemed to walk it back.

Judge's reps putting that out their to pimp one final offer from the Yanks?

I've thought he was gone since free agency hit-it'd be devastating, no question. If I'm another big ticket player though, I'm waiting to see the Yanks desperation pivot.
I just would want to know what the plan is to replace Judge. Sure, it saves Hal money, which has always appeared to be his primary goal. But Judge covered up so many issues with this year's team, and we saw that show up against Houston when Judge wasn't playing at a superhuman level.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: IATA on December 06, 2022, 08:19:40 PM
This is so stressful
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 07, 2022, 07:37:37 AM
WOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: mj2sexay on December 07, 2022, 07:39:48 AM
Return of the Judge.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on December 07, 2022, 07:41:05 AM
Good now let's sign ALL the players
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 07, 2022, 08:21:47 AM
The #Yankees have yet to make it official but Aaron Judge will be wearing a C on his chest for the next nine years.
He will be named captain of the Yankees.

-Boob Nightengale but holy excrement

Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 07, 2022, 08:24:20 AM
Jack Curry confirming
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: MBGreen on December 07, 2022, 08:27:20 AM
Good now let's sign ALL the players

No
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 07, 2022, 08:38:15 AM
I wanted to see Curry say it before I got excited!

Captain, my Captain! ALL RISE!!!
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 07, 2022, 08:40:43 AM
Good now let's sign ALL the players

This

Screw the luxtax. Spend a ton, win a title
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 07, 2022, 08:40:56 AM
Just realized that it’s 6:40 on the west coast, that’s brutal news to wake up to for Giants fans

I’m glad he got this out of the way early today because I was shitting bricks after that fuckhead Jon Heyman tweeting about Arson Judge last night
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 07, 2022, 08:50:07 AM
Just realized that it’s 6:40 on the west coast, that’s brutal news to wake up to for Giants fans

I’m glad he got this out of the way early today because I was shitting bricks after that fuckhead Jon Heyman tweeting about Arson Judge last night

Same
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: MBGreen on December 07, 2022, 09:26:20 AM
the Padres tried the sneak attack by offering Judge 400 mil over 10 years. 
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 07, 2022, 09:32:21 AM
Yankees were at $320M for 8 as recently as a day or two ago. Once Judge told Hal Steinbrenner he wanted to be a Yankee (but had more $ on table elsewhere — SF and SD) Hal sealed the deal by bumping it another $40M and one year.

All my homies love Hal Steinbrenner
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 07, 2022, 10:24:37 AM
Sources: Last night that Yankees were at 8/$320MM for Judge. They believed SDP was at $400 and Giants would get there. Hal got on phone w/Judge, asked him if he wanted to be a Yankee. Judge said yes but need 9th year.Hal/Judge closed deal.

Martino
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on December 07, 2022, 10:35:13 AM
This is so stressful
https://v.redd.it/ki7rxjrb0i4a1
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 07, 2022, 12:10:34 PM
Sources: Last night that Yankees were at 8/$320MM for Judge. They believed SDP was at $400 and Giants would get there. Hal got on phone w/Judge, asked him if he wanted to be a Yankee. Judge said yes but need 9th year.Hal/Judge closed deal.

Martino

Hal did the right thing. Blowing this would've made it difficult to be seen at Yankee Stadium. Instead, he's a hero today, doing it the way his dad would've
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 07, 2022, 12:51:36 PM
I look forward to Judge's contract being used an excuse not to sign players for the next decade.

But glad they got it done.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 07, 2022, 02:59:08 PM
I look forward to Judge's contract being used an excuse not to sign players for the next decade.

But glad they got it done.

Can’t wait for Yankees fans to simultaneously complain that the owner doesn’t spend money and Judge is overpaid
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 07, 2022, 07:41:57 PM
Can’t wait for Yankees fans to simultaneously complain that the owner doesn’t spend money and Judge is overpaid

In 5-7 years, he will be overpaid, but if we win a title or two before that, so be it

But if Hal does use it as an excuse to not spend (and I don't think that's going to be the case now) then it'll be a legit gripe

I have to believe that one of the conversations with Judge had to be "We're willing to do whatever it takes to win immediately if you return. If that means blowing out the cap, we'll do it."
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 08, 2022, 09:25:37 AM
The Dodgers have let Manny Machado, Corey Seager, and Trea Turner walk in almost consecutive seasons.

Why won’t their owner spend money? Any theories?
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 08, 2022, 10:00:00 AM
The Dodgers have let Manny Machado, Corey Seager, and Trea Turner walk in almost consecutive seasons.

Why won’t their owner spend money? Any theories?

Assuming your point is that even spending money doesn't guarantee winning, it's a valid point, and I'll agree with it. But that doesn't seem like it's the case with Hal, at least.

Let's remember, the Yankees sold everyone on the concept of cutting back to make a big splash in years where they could've acquired Verlander, or Machado, or Harper. All of those guys would've had much better outcomes than Stanton, or even maybe Cole.

We've definitely had this conversation before. It's not so much about "being cheap" as it is, spend what it takes correctly. It seems like they spend a lot "making up for mistakes" rather than pay up front for generational talents.

The Judge signing was great. It should've been done before the season, and likely would've saved a bit, but it's a step in the right direction.

I'll point to '09 as a great example of what they should be doing. Overspend for talents like Sabathia and Tex, and even Burnett.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 08, 2022, 10:56:44 AM
In 5-7 years, he will be overpaid, but if we win a title or two before that, so be it

But if Hal does use it as an excuse to not spend (and I don't think that's going to be the case now) then it'll be a legit gripe

I have to believe that one of the conversations with Judge had to be "We're willing to do whatever it takes to win immediately if you return. If that means blowing out the cap, we'll do it."
I highly doubt it. Can't really complain about Hal today, but they'll still live under the various thresholds in the future. I would be very surprised if they now started spending a ton more money and went over the tax.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 08, 2022, 01:15:14 PM
I highly doubt it. Can't really complain about Hal today, but they'll still live under the various thresholds in the future. I would be very surprised if they now started spending a ton more money and went over the tax.

Right now, I'd argue that they should sign Correa and Rodon, whatever the price. From there, use Volpe, Peraza, and/or Gleyber to trade for Reynolds. Bonus points if you can keep one of them and dump Donaldson in the deal. Reynolds, Bader, Judge is the starting OF and Stanton is full time DH.

1B is locked down, and hopefully DJ could take over at second. Assuming they can dispose of Donaldson, 3B would be a question mark, but at worst you could play IKF at second and DJ at third. Maybe you look to upgrade midseason if no one in MiLB shows promise.

Cole, Rodon, Severino, Cortes, Montas feels like an improved rotation. I love getting Kahnle back. I'd like to add more to the pen.

That's a lot of money. Who cares? The only "bad" contracts in the above would be Stanton and Hicks. And as long as he's healthy, Stanton is worth his money.

If you just gave Judge a boatload of cash to return and don't do anything else? You may as well have just let him go to San Fran.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 09, 2022, 01:54:07 PM
https://twitter.com/TalkinYanks/status/1601303793324658688
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 09, 2022, 10:35:15 PM
https://twitter.com/TalkinYanks/status/1601303793324658688

It’s always been Brett Gardner
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 09, 2022, 11:07:38 PM
It’s always been Brett Gardner
I think the one guy the Yankees may break some of their spending rules for is Shohei.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 12, 2022, 09:26:59 AM
Read an article this weekend confirming my suspicion that part of Judge's chats with Hal were "You can't just sign me and be done, we need to improve" meaning "If you want me to come back, you better spend on more than me

I was completely anti-Correa last year. This year? Pay him. Also, Rodon. And if there's any way to make it happen, trade any of the kids for Ohtani. Make it happen Cash
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 13, 2022, 09:46:59 AM
https://twitter.com/codifybaseball/status/1602409914470539264?s=46&t=ufZC_A_QGDbBdS4cpyo2DQ
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on December 13, 2022, 09:48:55 AM
 (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221213/e833f80396a6eaf09d735d9675e9d8b9.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 13, 2022, 10:30:00 AM
https://twitter.com/codifybaseball/status/1602409914470539264?s=46&t=ufZC_A_QGDbBdS4cpyo2DQ

That's got to change going forward, right? It's anecdotal and I don't know where to find hard data for it, but it felt like pitch calls improved the closer to the end of the season we got. Though how much of that was simply "Can't call strikes and make him miss a shot at history" I don't know.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on December 14, 2022, 03:04:51 PM
Promotional schedule is out

https://www.mlb.com/yankees/tickets/promotions
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Gorilla on December 15, 2022, 09:22:06 PM
Rodon finally signed.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/12/yankees-to-sign-carlos-rodon.html
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: IATA on December 15, 2022, 09:24:08 PM
6 years $162m full no trade

thats not even terrible this offseason, wouldnt have been mad if the giants paid that
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 15, 2022, 10:35:16 PM
Not satisfied until Cashman trades Andujar for Trout
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 15, 2022, 11:57:39 PM
Always been a Rodon fan since college. LFG.

Now find a leftfielder somewhere. Would love to ship Donaldson out and try to upgrade that, but that's optional. Leftfield is imperative.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 16, 2022, 08:53:23 AM
https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1603754765644693506?s=42&t=5Ak2H1GpOyvtzAO8qD6x3g

Begging Hal to spend some money
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: mj2sexay on December 16, 2022, 08:56:48 AM
Always been a Rodon fan since college. LFG.

Now find a leftfielder somewhere. Would love to ship Donaldson out and try to upgrade that, but that's optional. Leftfield is imperative.

No one's taking Donaldson unless they eat the large majority of his money or take a bad contract back.

One of the worst moves Cash made was bringing him in.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Gorilla on December 16, 2022, 12:47:27 PM
No one's taking Donaldson unless they eat the large majority of his money or take a bad contract back.

One of the worst moves Cash made was bringing him in.

Agreed.
Plus it was such a no-hindsight-necessary head scratcher. It was a gamble, sure, like every trade...but odds were against us.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 16, 2022, 04:14:06 PM
I did not want to give Benintendi 5 for 75 at all.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 16, 2022, 09:40:37 PM
I did not want to give Benintendi 5 for 75 at all.

What about Yoshi or Nimmos deals
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 16, 2022, 09:47:03 PM
Agreed.
Plus it was such a no-hindsight-necessary head scratcher. It was a gamble, sure, like every trade...but odds were against us.

It was a head scratcher but it was more about moving Gary than acquiring Donaldson.

Donaldson stunk but it felt like we were a better team this year despite no other major moves.

It’s a fair debate, what team does better last year- Gary/Gio/Gleyber (SS) or Trevino/Donaldson/IKF. Donaldson and IKF underperformed, but were upgrades defensively. Trevino was arguably the most valuable defensive player in baseball last season.


We got super lucky with the Trevino pickup last year. We would have run Gary back out there without that trade though.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 16, 2022, 09:50:03 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a similar move this offseason to try and get rid of IKF/Donaldson/Hicks. The players we get back might not be that desirable but it’s about addition by subtraction/roster shakeup/freeing up a spot for someone more productive.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 17, 2022, 03:09:09 AM
It was a head scratcher but it was more about moving Gary than acquiring Donaldson.

Donaldson stunk but it felt like we were a better team this year despite no other major moves.

It’s a fair debate, what team does better last year- Gary/Gio/Gleyber (SS) or Trevino/Donaldson/IKF. Donaldson and IKF underperformed, but were upgrades defensively. Trevino was arguably the most valuable defensive player in baseball last season.


We got super lucky with the Trevino pickup last year. We would have run Gary back out there without that trade though.
Well, I think they wanted Rortvedt to be the guy, and he got hurt. There's no way they let Hicks get 10-and-5 rights. They will trade him for whatever they can get.

I don't like Donaldson, but I'm not sure there's going to be a much better option. Between Peraza and Volpe, I think we can take IKF's job.

Hicks is gone.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on December 17, 2022, 12:29:26 PM
Neat

https://twitter.com/BenVerlander/status/1603807342294093824?s=19
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on December 20, 2022, 02:39:42 PM
Arson

https://twitter.com/Yankees/status/1605283346031984642?s=19
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 20, 2022, 06:09:21 PM
https://twitter.com/PlayoffTanaka_/status/1605298847764295680?s=20&t=LiTEf2F8PSC5xW2DFraf0Q
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on December 20, 2022, 06:10:11 PM
https://twitter.com/PlayoffTanaka_/status/1605298847764295680?s=20&t=LiTEf2F8PSC5xW2DFraf0Q
I can't believe I forced myself to watch the whole thing earlier.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 21, 2022, 10:28:32 AM
Captain.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 21, 2022, 10:28:38 AM
Hal Steinbrenner: “We’re not done yet.”

Donaldson extension 👀
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on December 21, 2022, 11:54:23 AM
Captain.
I tried to catch the presser during my morning break but they started late so I missed the good stuff.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 21, 2022, 12:54:18 PM
Captain.

Perfect
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 21, 2022, 12:57:56 PM
Hal Steinbrenner: “We’re not done yet.”

Donaldson extension 👀

Jokes aside, what could they have planned? We still haven't seen the result of the supposed "big thing" they were working on. Between Judge and Rodon, this is a pretty good offseason already. Kahnle is a boost to the pen. Could we see a true blockbuster trade for a left fielder?

With DJ trending toward Opening Day, I'd love to see Donaldson get the boot.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 21, 2022, 01:05:45 PM
Jokes aside, what could they have planned? We still haven't seen the result of the supposed "big thing" they were working on. Between Judge and Rodon, this is a pretty good offseason already. Kahnle is a boost to the pen. Could we see a true blockbuster trade for a left fielder?

With DJ trending toward Opening Day, I'd love to see Donaldson get the boot.

I don’t really think it’s anything on the FA market he’s referring to. Whether or not a deal gets done is another story.

It does feel like they would want to move some contracts in Donaldson/IKF/Hicks. German can now get flipped to a rotation needy team.
There’s the ever existing possibility of trading Gleyber to free up a spot for one of the kids. I wouldn’t want to do that for the sake of making a trade though.


For FA’s:

Conforto for LF on a low risk deal would make sense though

Jurickson Profar?

I don’t really see anything else out there
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 21, 2022, 01:58:21 PM
I don’t really think it’s anything on the FA market he’s referring to. Whether or not a deal gets done is another story.

It does feel like they would want to move some contracts in Donaldson/IKF/Hicks. German can now get flipped to a rotation needy team.
There’s the ever existing possibility of trading Gleyber to free up a spot for one of the kids. I wouldn’t want to do that for the sake of making a trade though.


For FA’s:

Conforto for LF on a low risk deal would make sense though

Jurickson Profar?

I don’t really see anything else out there

Yeah, I've been thinking they've got to be talking about a trade all along. Whether that includes Gleyber or some combo of the kids, I don't know. They've checked in on Reynolds, but Pitt seems like they're not trading him. Cashman apparently said the trade market holds more potential than FA, but that talks have been "difficult."

I'm guessing unless they're willing to part with multiple players/top prospects, teams aren't going to be very cooperative. I'd love to upgrade LF and dump Donaldson, but it's hard to argue the Yankees didn't improve this offseason--especially if they give SS to Volpe or Peraza. Even better if they put DJ at 3B over Donaldson.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: MBGreen on December 22, 2022, 11:49:05 AM
Clean-shaven Rodon looks like Meat from Porkys

https://twitter.com/TalkinYanks/status/1605945125405954048?s=20&t=w0viC7oh9D58-WSjQFdaCg

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJ11MK8y2_zH1gkwhA1tbqfzAAjecWL8xFaHJMX3vD-fQ0HUWN6z-IB1KMNiayOdtXWlM&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Johnny English on December 23, 2022, 09:01:03 PM
LOL Dolan. Imagine being sued by that many people that you have to go to these lengths.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/nyregion/madison-square-garden-facial-recognition.html
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on December 23, 2022, 11:52:37 PM
LOL Dolan. Imagine being sued by that many people that you have to go to these lengths.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/nyregion/madison-square-garden-facial-recognition.html
Sir, this is the Yankees thread.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 03, 2023, 04:53:33 PM
https://twitter.com/yakyucosmo/status/1610146996949766151?s=46&t=tDo8lWHJ9jq5lbVYCfPt-A


Oh freak Yes
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 04, 2023, 03:22:05 PM
https://twitter.com/paigespiranac/status/1610736830764154880?s=42&t=kHacWGnlIB4vwdniF4__Pg

Bonk
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 04, 2023, 03:22:46 PM
Pretty sure Lebron can’t be traded lol
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on January 04, 2023, 05:24:44 PM
https://twitter.com/paigespiranac/status/1610736830764154880?s=42&t=kHacWGnlIB4vwdniF4__Pg

Bonk
Paige pls
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Gorilla on January 04, 2023, 08:09:28 PM
https://twitter.com/paigespiranac/status/1610736830764154880?s=42&t=kHacWGnlIB4vwdniF4__Pg

Bonk

Imagine someone turning the sound on for this video.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: delavan on January 04, 2023, 08:43:57 PM
Imagine someone turning the sound on for this video.
haha, nice


Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 05, 2023, 10:21:24 AM
https://twitter.com/yankees/status/1610335933789880324?s=46&t=Edw4s0y0R0qBs_FwwVNjFA

https://twitter.com/jackcurryyes/status/1611032851234922497?s=46&t=Edw4s0y0R0qBs_FwwVNjFA
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 05, 2023, 01:00:46 PM
Quote
Sabean began his involvement in Major League Baseball as a scout for the New York Yankees organization in 1985. Sabean was promoted to Director of Scouting in 1986 and Vice President of Player Development/Scouting in 1990.[5] With the Yankees, he drafted or signed as amateurs the likes of Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, J. T. Snow, Jorge Posada and Andy Pettitte.

The Core 5
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Gorilla on January 05, 2023, 02:40:48 PM
The Core 5

Haha, I also include Hensley Bam Bam Meulens...Core Six.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 05, 2023, 02:59:15 PM
Who is doing these hirings? Is Cashman bringing in guys to help or is Hal starting to think maybe Brian needs some other voices in the room who are harder to ignore?
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on January 05, 2023, 04:28:03 PM
Who is doing these hirings? Is Cashman bringing in guys to help or is Hal starting to think maybe Brian needs some other voices in the room who are harder to ignore?
"We can't sign [big ticket FA] because we have too much money tied up in front office guys"
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 05, 2023, 06:33:55 PM
Who is doing these hirings? Is Cashman bringing in guys to help or is Hal starting to think maybe Brian needs some other voices in the room who are harder to ignore?

Cashman, one would assume. Idk who else would have that type of power other than Randy Levine and this doesn’t seem like his domain. I can’t recall Hal ever making a baseball related move. Maybe he got nudged to make the hirings, maybe it was his idea, either way it’s a good idea to have some fresh (but old) perspective in the FO

“Both Minaya and Sabean are known for their scouting and talent evaluation abilities. Both executives will now be added to the other voices in the Yankees’ decision room. Important to mix analytics info and scouting info.”

When I saw it was these old heads that was one of my first thoughts
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on January 05, 2023, 07:08:24 PM
Sabean and Cashman go back forever. I have no reason to think Cash isn't safe. Just signed a 5 year deal.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 05, 2023, 08:08:21 PM
FTR, I'm not saying Cashman isn't safe. As was said, he just signed a brand new deal.

I think this is 100% about getting additional voices in the room, especially those that aren't utterly consumed with using advanced metrics as the entire decision-making process.

My only question is, was this Cashman deciding he could use some advice or was this one of his bosses saying "Brian, you're a good GM and we love you, but we want some guys around who have successfully used the eye test as well?
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 05, 2023, 09:51:24 PM
FTR, I'm not saying Cashman isn't safe. As was said, he just signed a brand new deal.

I think this is 100% about getting additional voices in the room, especially those that aren't utterly consumed with using advanced metrics as the entire decision-making process.

My only question is, was this Cashman deciding he could use some advice or was this one of his bosses saying "Brian, you're a good GM and we love you, but we want some guys around who have successfully used the eye test as well?

I don’t think Cashman is arrogant or lacks self awareness. I think this was probably his idea, and almost certainly his picks

This could be a reaction to (for example) the IKF/Donaldson trade and other similar MLB level moves that haven’t worked out lately
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: delavan on January 19, 2023, 09:10:57 PM
The fentanyl of sports now encroaching on our national pastime…..sigh….lol

https://www.nj.com/yankees/2023/01/yankees-star-pitcher-kicked-out-of-public-park.html

https://twitter.com/Cortes_1210/status/1615874053381967875

https://youtu.be/Abd3cYk8MTM
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: guinness77 on January 20, 2023, 10:13:48 AM
Did WFAN fire Sweeney Murti or did he leave on his own? Either way, he’s a great beat reporter, that’s a loss for you guys unless he ends up somewhere else.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 20, 2023, 11:32:16 AM
Did WFAN fire Sweeney Murti or did he leave on his own? Either way, he’s a great beat reporter, that’s a loss for you guys unless he ends up somewhere else.

Looks like they would have reduced his role and made him part-time. He probably wants/needs a full-time role. I'd love to see him land on YES, but he apparently already does part-time with SNY, so I don't know if there would be interference there.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: guinness77 on January 20, 2023, 11:46:08 AM
Looks like they would have reduced his role and made him part-time. He probably wants/needs a full-time role. I'd love to see him land on YES, but he apparently already does part-time with SNY, so I don't know if there would be interference there.
It’s a shame. I used to listen to the fan a lot and Murti is a good reporter. I’m not a Yankees fan and I wouldn’t shut off the station when he would come on. Reporters like him are a dying breed.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 20, 2023, 12:30:26 PM
I love Sweeny. This is a mistake
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 20, 2023, 12:46:42 PM
It’s a shame. I used to listen to the fan a lot and Murti is a good reporter. I’m not a Yankees fan and I wouldn’t shut off the station when he would come on. Reporters like him are a dying breed.
I love Sweeny. This is a mistake

I've never been a FAN listener, but I've caught Murti a few times on the post-postgame and sometimes during games on the radio and he's great.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: delavan on January 20, 2023, 07:30:09 PM
I remember on more than one occasion when Francesa would ‘big league’ Sweeny like he was the hired help during one of Sweeny’s Yankee reports, as if Francesa’s Yankeefanship conferred that right.  Sweeny Murti always maintained his dignity in the face of Fatty’s boorishness.  Best of luck Sweeny.

https://www.audacy.com/wfan/sports/yankees/sweeny-murti-remembers-george-steinbrenner-running-him-over
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on January 20, 2023, 09:19:47 PM
Sad. Loved Sweeny. Another blow to WFAN. Loved Mike and the Mad Dog and then solo Mike (at least until his final run). Loved Joe and Evan.

Carton is insufferable. Not a big Tiki fan. Don't listen to Boomer and Gio enough to make a judgment.

I loved watching Sweeny's career rise as he became one of the most reputable Yankees voices out there. Sad.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 20, 2023, 09:36:35 PM
If WFAN actually initiated this move, they’re freaking buffoons. Sweeny is the most knowledgeable person reporting on the Yankees imo. Balanced and fair takes. Personable preference, but if you break it down, the beat is the beat and
Michael kay is the worst.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 20, 2023, 09:39:49 PM
He needs to retain some type of job with the organization or Ny Yankees news media.

I also need to see more details/reasoning behind this decision.

Not to be dramatic but this feels really dumb.

As a NE guy I saws something similar happen with Don Orsillo and the red
Sox (orsillo was the lead broadcaster) and we all called it out at the time. Orsillo has been crushing it for the Padres and the Red Sox
Booth has been in shambles ever since
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 24, 2023, 11:17:12 AM
https://twitter.com/talkinyanks/status/1617752395911684098?s=46&t=A3c6C6yq2LoNKZMsGvGNeA

Unstoppable Rizz
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 24, 2023, 12:22:44 PM
https://twitter.com/talkinyanks/status/1617752395911684098?s=46&t=A3c6C6yq2LoNKZMsGvGNeA

Unstoppable Rizz

Not all heroes wear capes.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: delavan on January 24, 2023, 07:32:28 PM
If true, stay with it B Cash

https://www.si.com/mlb/yankees/.amp/news/new-york-yankees-still-trying-trade-josh-donaldson-aaron-before-opening-day
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 25, 2023, 12:51:41 PM
If true, stay with it B Cash

https://www.si.com/mlb/yankees/.amp/news/new-york-yankees-still-trying-trade-josh-donaldson-aaron-before-opening-day

It'd be great if he could trade one or both, but no one is going to want to touch those contracts. The only way to make it happen would be part of some blockbuster-style deal that has the Yankees giving up multiple big names like Peraza, Volpe, Dominguez, and Gleyber.

I still hate Donaldson and I doubt anything is going to change that. But I'm okay with Hicks getting a shot to turn it around this year. Maybe playing left rather than center can help him stay healthy and give him the chance to reset offensively.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 25, 2023, 01:08:27 PM
It'd be great if he could trade one or both, but no one is going to want to touch those contracts. The only way to make it happen would be part of some blockbuster-style deal that has the Yankees giving up multiple big names like Peraza, Volpe, Dominguez, and Gleyber.

I still hate Donaldson and I doubt anything is going to change that. But I'm okay with Hicks getting a shot to turn it around this year. Maybe playing left rather than center can help him stay healthy and give him the chance to reset offensively.

They could get a team to take one if we ate a bunch of the money, but then how much does it help us? Really isn’t much of a viable FA pool to choose from at this point.

If they could get rid of Hicks, Jurickson Profar would be cool
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 25, 2023, 01:23:34 PM
They could get a team to take one if we ate a bunch of the money, but then how much does it help us? Really isn’t much of a viable FA pool to choose from at this point.

If they could get rid of Hicks, Jurickson Profar would be cool

I don't think he's trying to trade them for the cap space immediately but I do think he'd like to get some space out of a trade. I've read multiple times that Hal's reluctant to top that upper tax tier and I think they're pretty close to it. They're going to need space before the deadline in the summer, and I have a feeling that's what this is about.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on January 25, 2023, 03:03:20 PM
It'd be great if he could trade one or both, but no one is going to want to touch those contracts. The only way to make it happen would be part of some blockbuster-style deal that has the Yankees giving up multiple big names like Peraza, Volpe, Dominguez, and Gleyber.

I still hate Donaldson and I doubt anything is going to change that. But I'm okay with Hicks getting a shot to turn it around this year. Maybe playing left rather than center can help him stay healthy and give him the chance to reset offensively.
I officially gave up on Hicks after 2022.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: mj2sexay on January 25, 2023, 06:47:45 PM
Aaron Hicks is freaking garbage.

How it isn't Cabrera's job to lose if they aren't going to make an acquisition is beyond me. He's not even a super sub when you consider they're probably going to move DJ around 1st, 2nd and 3rd to get him regular starts.

Hicks and Donaldson are two of the worst moves of Cash's tenure. Jared Wright level bad in Donaldsons case in that everyone largely knew it was excrement the second he made it.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 26, 2023, 12:02:58 PM
I officially gave up on Hicks after 2022.

I've been "down" on him only in terms of health. He just can't stay on the field. Skill-wise, he had a bad year, but I think a lot was mental and he can bounce back.

Aaron Hicks is freaking garbage.

How it isn't Cabrera's job to lose if they aren't going to make an acquisition is beyond me. He's not even a super sub when you consider they're probably going to move DJ around 1st, 2nd and 3rd to get him regular starts.

Hicks and Donaldson are two of the worst moves of Cash's tenure. Jared Wright level bad in Donaldsons case in that everyone largely knew it was excrement the second he made it.

I think Cabrera should be given the chance to win the starting job in Tampa. But Hicks should get the same shot.

DJ should be the every day 3B. Gleyber should be at 2B and Peraza/Volpe should compete for SS. IKF should get the utility role. Donaldson should sit unless he completely changes form in ST.

There's no way Hicks is near the top of Cashman's bad moves. Pavano and Ellsbury are easily worse. Ellsbury even beats Donaldson to me because we knew he was going to miss time.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on January 26, 2023, 12:53:18 PM
I still would be surprised if Hicks is part of the solution. I highly doubt they want Hicks to get 10&5 rights.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 26, 2023, 01:26:58 PM
I still would be surprised if Hicks is part of the solution. I highly doubt they want Hicks to get 10&5 rights.

If they find a taker for either or both, I'm sure Cashman won't hesitate to book the airline ticket himself. But if they can't, I think Hicks still has some value.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 26, 2023, 02:04:36 PM
Aaron Hicks is freaking garbage.

How it isn't Cabrera's job to lose if they aren't going to make an acquisition is beyond me. He's not even a super sub when you consider they're probably going to move DJ around 1st, 2nd and 3rd to get him regular starts.

Hicks and Donaldson are two of the worst moves of Cash's tenure. Jared Wright level bad in Donaldsons case in that everyone largely knew it was excrement the second he made it.

It’s Hick’s job to lose only because we’re stuck with him and the contract. If Waldo can’t beat him out for the job then it says more about him than it does about Hicks. I’m fine with this approach- even if Hicks wins the job and is the “starter” on opening day, I doubt it will stay that way for long. He’ll either play his way out of the job or he’ll hit enough to keep it.

Hicks trade was clearly a W
Hicks contract is an L but was considered very team friendly at the time
Can’t win em all
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 26, 2023, 02:07:53 PM
I still would be surprised if Hicks is part of the solution. I highly doubt they want Hicks to get 10&5 rights.

Hicks is a perfectly serviceable 4th OF but we need a legit starting LF for that to happen. Hopefully Waldo is part of that solution

Agree on the second point
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 26, 2023, 02:12:20 PM
It really shouldn’t be hard for Oswaldo Cabrera to beat out Hicks

2022

Hicks: 130 G, 1.5 WAR
Cabrera: 44 G, 1.5 WAR


Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 26, 2023, 02:20:08 PM
We’re also exaggerating how bad Hicks is
(I say this as a known defender of bad players)

Last year was his worst season here. He’s been aging, hurt and declining since his 2 good seasons in 2017 and 2018

And still 2022 Aaron Hicks put up more WAR than:

Alex Verdugo
Giancarlo Stanton
Lourdes Gurriel Jr.
Tommy Pham
Joey Gallo
AJ Pollock
Jesse Winker
Victor Robles
Andrew McCutchen
Raimel Tapia
Charlie Blackmon


And a bunch of other OFs. Tried to only include ones with similar amount of games played.







Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 26, 2023, 02:25:38 PM
He’s somehow still walking a ton even though he can’t hit

6th in BB% among OFs with 100+ ABs last season
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on January 26, 2023, 03:17:09 PM
Hicks is a perfectly serviceable 4th OF but we need a legit starting LF for that to happen. Hopefully Waldo is part of that solution

Agree on the second point
I agree that Hicks is a decent 4th outfielder, but I worry that he would just usurp all the playing time because he's the new Brett Gardner. Unless you bring in a clear replacement, I think Hicks is the default option (as Cash said).

If Hicks didn't have 10&5 coming his way, I think you keep him, but giving him a no-trade clause could hamper future flexibility. You either sell low on him now, or you might end up buying him out down the road if he doesn't play well.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on February 15, 2023, 12:07:26 PM
Welp

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1625918766495444993?s=19
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on February 15, 2023, 12:30:52 PM
Welp

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1625918766495444993?s=19

Cashman loves guys with low durability.

I wrote off Montas for this season already so this isn't surprising. If your shoulder isn't recovering by Christmas, you're in trouble.

I'm a lot more concerned with Nestor. It's been a while, but I'll just repeat that I hate the WBC.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: delavan on February 15, 2023, 02:46:34 PM
Cashman loves guys with low durability.

I wrote off Montas for this season already so this isn't surprising. If your shoulder isn't recovering by Christmas, you're in trouble.

I'm a lot more concerned with Nestor. It's been a while,

but I'll just repeat that I hate the WBC.
This ^    Like who cares?
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on February 15, 2023, 09:33:50 PM
This ^    Like who cares?

I think it's all about getting baseball on TV sets in other countries to build fandom--which I get. The problem for me is that this should absolutely not be right at the start of spring training. These guys have been off for months. The entire purpose of ST is to get their bodies reacclimated to the daily grind. The WBC treats them like they're already ready to go.

If they want to keep it, I still won't watch it, but it should be after the World Series. Even if guys get hurt, they'd have months to recover.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 16, 2023, 11:59:11 AM
Ben Rortvedt SZN
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 16, 2023, 12:05:47 PM
Welp

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1625918766495444993?s=19

Likely a blessing in disguise, he was pitching hurt last season and that probably would have continued this year

They gambled on his arm and it didn’t work out. Gotta remember the 2 guys they wanted more would have required Gleyber+ or Volpe+ And we didn’t give up nearly that for Montas. It is what it is
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on February 16, 2023, 07:03:20 PM
Likely a blessing in disguise, he was pitching hurt last season and that probably would have continued this year

They gambled on his arm and it didn’t work out. Gotta remember the 2 guys they wanted more would have required Gleyber+ or Volpe+ And we didn’t give up nearly that for Montas. It is what it is
You'd think they could have identified this issue in November though. Instead of right before spring training.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on February 16, 2023, 07:54:00 PM
I think it's all about getting baseball on TV sets in other countries to build fandom--which I get. The problem for me is that this should absolutely not be right at the start of spring training. These guys have been off for months. The entire purpose of ST is to get their bodies reacclimated to the daily grind. The WBC treats them like they're already ready to go.

If they want to keep it, I still won't watch it, but it should be after the World Series. Even if guys get hurt, they'd have months to recover.
Doing it after the World Series basically means guys just had their full season grind and then the WBC on top. At least now it is in place of something. Guys can either throw pitches in spring training games or in the WBC. Plus, March does not go up against the NFL.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on February 17, 2023, 12:10:57 AM
Doing it after the World Series basically means guys just had their full season grind and then the WBC on top. At least now it is in place of something. Guys can either throw pitches in spring training games or in the WBC. Plus, March does not go up against the NFL.

How about just don't do it at all?

Good news about Nestor today though. He might be throwing as early as this weekend.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on February 17, 2023, 01:00:23 AM
How about just don't do it at all?

Good news about Nestor today though. He might be throwing as early as this weekend.
Other countries like the WBC. It matters to the players. It has an equal risk of hurting everyone. I'll probably watch some of it.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 17, 2023, 06:12:28 AM
You'd think they could have identified this issue in November though. Instead of right before spring training.

It happens, especially with pitchers. They knew there was an issue, 2 choices are surgery or rehab, they tried to work through it but it got worse. This happens every offseason, Red Sox fans were wondering the same thing about Trevor Story
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on February 17, 2023, 10:16:47 AM
Other countries like the WBC.

That matters exactly not at all to me.

It matters to the players.

See above.

It has an equal risk of hurting everyone.

That doesn't make me any happier, nor does it invalidate my point that it's an unnecessary injury risk.

The Olympics are the opportunity for the world to compete against each other. And I don't want to see the pros playing in it there either.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: delavan on February 21, 2023, 09:53:23 AM
https://twitter.com/Yankees/status/1627806006175727616

Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on March 08, 2023, 06:50:08 PM
The captain has spoken

https://twitter.com/BryanHoch/status/1633576192464011264?s=20
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 09, 2023, 10:32:45 AM
The captain has spoken

https://twitter.com/BryanHoch/status/1633576192464011264?s=20

But what about service time manipulation!?!
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 09, 2023, 10:55:48 AM
https://twitter.com/talkinyanks/status/1633869448816861185?s=42&t=oQHlTr9_OCVIYXOt5gHlYQ

Cashmans fault something something
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 09, 2023, 11:35:30 AM
https://twitter.com/talkinyanks/status/1633869448816861185?s=42&t=oQHlTr9_OCVIYXOt5gHlYQ

Cashmans fault something something

JFC
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: MBGreen on March 09, 2023, 10:12:25 PM
https://twitter.com/talkinyanks/status/1633869448816861185?s=42&t=oQHlTr9_OCVIYXOt5gHlYQ

Cashmans fault something something
https://twitter.com/pcaldera/status/1633937259039801344?t=7Olng9DYxooY9c6cr310ug&s=19
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 10, 2023, 11:47:22 AM
WTF?!

Bader's starting the year on the IL with an oblique strain

Please just get all of these out of the way in April/May and be healthy for the summer and fall
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 10, 2023, 03:27:01 PM
Obviously not ideal but I’m not worried, we should have good depth as usual

Potentially even moreso than usual
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 10, 2023, 03:27:15 PM
https://twitter.com/tom_smith717/status/1634288912066662407?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on March 10, 2023, 03:46:48 PM
https://twitter.com/tom_smith717/status/1634288912066662407?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
LFG
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 10, 2023, 07:10:45 PM
Obviously not ideal but I’m not worried, we should have good depth as usual

Potentially even moreso than usual

Yeah, it probably means we don't lose Florial and he gets one last shot to stick here

Hicks probably gets a bunch of starts in center

I'm a lot more worried about the pitching right now. The pen is down multiple arms, and the rotation is down both of Cashman's most recent acquisitions.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 10, 2023, 07:15:02 PM
https://twitter.com/tom_smith717/status/1634288912066662407?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg

Good. Now trade IKF

Peraza at short and Volpe at second?

While we're at it, DJ at third and DFA Donaldson
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 14, 2023, 03:27:21 PM
Isiah Kiner-Falefa has been working in the outfield with Nick Swisher. Aaron Boone plans to start IKF in center field later this week as he transitions into a utility role. #yankees


Progress
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on March 14, 2023, 03:47:13 PM
Isiah Kiner-Falefa has been working in the outfield with Nick Swisher. Aaron Boone plans to start IKF in center field later this week as he transitions into a utility role. #yankees


Progress
Less popular Tyler Wade
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 14, 2023, 09:32:44 PM
https://twitter.com/bryanhoch/status/1635810375617658884?s=42&t=oQHlTr9_OCVIYXOt5gHlYQ

The other injuries are manageable but we have zero depth at catcher
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 15, 2023, 11:07:52 AM
Hal Steinbrenner on SS battle: “We knew it was going to be exciting. It's just great to see all of our young kids playing well, including Dominguez. The reality is when we've got young prospects are ready and deserving of a chance, they're gonna get it, just like Judge did.”

Interesting
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 15, 2023, 11:54:16 AM
Hal Steinbrenner on SS battle: “We knew it was going to be exciting. It's just great to see all of our young kids playing well, including Dominguez. The reality is when we've got young prospects are ready and deserving of a chance, they're gonna get it, just like Judge did.”

Interesting

Very interesting

Could we really start the year with Volpe, Peraza, Cabrera, and the Martian all in the Bronx? That'd be a very exciting and uncharacteristic move by this regime

I just wonder if Dominguez is better served by getting at least a couple of months in Scranton, but if he makes the team, awesome!
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 15, 2023, 11:59:51 AM
https://twitter.com/bryanhoch/status/1635810375617658884?s=42&t=oQHlTr9_OCVIYXOt5gHlYQ (https://twitter.com/bryanhoch/status/1635810375617658884?s=42&t=oQHlTr9_OCVIYXOt5gHlYQ)

The other injuries are manageable but we have zero depth at catcher

You know who's still available? This guy (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sanchga02.shtml)
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 15, 2023, 03:06:42 PM
https://twitter.com/talkinyanks/status/1636082904185929730?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 15, 2023, 03:08:05 PM
Very interesting

Could we really start the year with Volpe, Peraza, Cabrera, and the Martian all in the Bronx? That'd be a very exciting and uncharacteristic move by this regime

I just wonder if Dominguez is better served by getting at least a couple of months in Scranton, but if he makes the team, awesome!

Dominguez def not unless another OF gets hurt. And even then still I would be shocked

Its also tough to envision a Peraza/Volpe combo in the majors. They both need to play every day. Don’t really see that happening without another injury
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 15, 2023, 03:19:23 PM
Dominguez def not unless another OF gets hurt. And even then still I would be shocked

Its also tough to envision a Peraza/Volpe combo in the majors. They both need to play every day. Don’t really see that happening without another injury

You don't think they're going to put one at second as has been suggested? Or are you thinking DJ is going to be the everyday 2B? It's wishful thinking that Donaldson would be sent packing, but I figured DJ would go back to playing second, third, and first on a rotating basis to give everyone a day off.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 15, 2023, 03:29:42 PM
You don't think they're going to put one at second as has been suggested? Or are you thinking DJ is going to be the everyday 2B? It's wishful thinking that Donaldson would be sent packing, but I figured DJ would go back to playing second, third, and first on a rotating basis to give everyone a day off.

We have DJ and Gleyber that could play 2nd. Ideally Donaldson rides the line but they’re going to give him another shot
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 15, 2023, 07:25:05 PM
We have DJ and Gleyber that could play 2nd. Ideally Donaldson rides the line but they’re going to give him another shot

Oh crap, gotta be honest, I forgot all about Gleyber! Wow, oops!
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on March 17, 2023, 06:43:27 AM
I hope Clarke Schmidt's preseason dominance is not meaningless.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 17, 2023, 07:31:08 AM
I hope Clarke Schmidt's preseason dominance is not meaningless.

Better his preseason performance be meaningless than Severino's be meaningful
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Derek Smalls on March 17, 2023, 02:18:01 PM
Better his preseason performance be meaningless than Severino's be meaningful
Not sure about that to be honest. Severino is a FA after the year. If Schmidt can be a guy, that would be huge for this year and beyond.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 17, 2023, 02:59:07 PM
Not sure about that to be honest. Severino is a FA after the year. If Schmidt can be a guy, that would be huge for this year and beyond.

I'm only concerned about this year. It's been almost a decade and half since they've been in the World Series. Obviously, the middle infield is young, but the roster is aging and organizational depth is depleted. It's pretty close to an all-in year, especially since Hal's only going to put up with the excessive payroll for so long.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 20, 2023, 10:39:44 AM
Cole and Nestor got bombed their last starts too.

You’d like to see them dominate, but ST for pitchers is usually just getting your velo back and getting the ball over the plate. They almost always say they aren’t as worried about the batter/result of the pitch over their own mechanics/delivery/stuff.

We’ve also seen Greg Bird and Kyle Higashioka go nuclear in ST.
I never read too much into it unless you have to make a roster decision. Still a lot more that goes into that decision though.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 20, 2023, 12:54:18 PM
Cole and Nestor got bombed their last starts too.

You’d like to see them dominate, but ST for pitchers is usually just getting your velo back and getting the ball over the plate. They almost always say they aren’t as worried about the batter/result of the pitch over their own mechanics/delivery/stuff.

We’ve also seen Greg Bird and Kyle Higashioka go nuclear in ST.
I never read too much into it unless you have to make a roster decision. Still a lot more that goes into that decision though.

Yeah, certainly fair enough

Right now, I'm in "try not to get worked up at all until May" mode. With all the injuries, it's going to take some time for everyone to get into everyday mode. As long as they're not 10+ back on 5/1, there shouldn't be a lot to get worked up over.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 24, 2023, 08:57:02 AM
https://twitter.com/bryanhoch/status/1639263497375629313?s=10&t=JNIE16dq__PDFutgyQ7iHg


🚨🚨🚨
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 24, 2023, 10:07:32 AM
https://twitter.com/bryanhoch/status/1639263497375629313?s=10&t=JNIE16dq__PDFutgyQ7iHg (https://twitter.com/bryanhoch/status/1639263497375629313?s=10&t=JNIE16dq__PDFutgyQ7iHg)


🚨🚨🚨

Whoa!

Someone made a good point though. DJ is leading off. Also, Cabrera and Higgy are in the lineup, so it's not exactly a Scranton lineup. Still, this is pretty intriguing.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on March 25, 2023, 06:12:13 AM
Even other team's players are pulling for Volpe.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bryanhoch/status/1639339698433982465?s=46&t=ipXejYivCBHX1mZ8sOkwNg
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: MBGreen on March 25, 2023, 09:27:42 AM
Bob Nightengale
@BNightengale
·
2m
Luis Severino now with a low grade lat injury as #Yankees rotation takes another hit twitter.com/maxtgoodman/st…
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 25, 2023, 09:30:05 AM
Even other team's players are pulling for Volpe.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bryanhoch/status/1639339698433982465?s=46&t=ipXejYivCBHX1mZ8sOkwNg

I'm liking the #VolpeningDay hashtag.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 25, 2023, 09:30:33 AM
Bob Nightengale
@BNightengale
·
2m
Luis Severino now with a low grade lat injury as #Yankees rotation takes another hit twitter.com/maxtgoodman/st…

Oh FFS
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: MBGreen on March 25, 2023, 11:13:22 AM
I'm liking the #VolpeningDay hashtag.
Maybe he can pitch
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on March 26, 2023, 03:42:53 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1640090362067791873?t=TojXrfiDFsaAONEwi28dXQ&s=19

Volpe Nation, rise up
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 26, 2023, 03:43:44 PM
#VolpeningDay
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 26, 2023, 03:44:39 PM
Maybe he can pitch

No need when you have Jhony Brito

https://twitter.com/talkinyanks/status/1640056537753219072?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 26, 2023, 04:08:57 PM
https://twitter.com/talkinyanks/status/1640093971845136386?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg

🥲
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 27, 2023, 01:18:32 PM
https://twitter.com/marioagomez_1/status/1640379697015005185?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 29, 2023, 11:23:18 AM
Volpe switching to #11 from 77
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: delavan on March 29, 2023, 12:16:13 PM
Volpe switching to #11 from 77
Lefty Gomez (1932-1942)
Hector Lopez (1959-1966)
Dwight Gooden (1996-1997)
Chuck Knoblauch (1998-2001)
Gary Sheffield (2004-2006)
Brett Gardner (2008-2021)
Anthony Volpe (2023 - )


Franchy Cordero, depth signing  from the Birds

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1641115732514684952.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on March 29, 2023, 12:56:48 PM
Cordero is this year's Carpenter. Secret weapon.
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: Badger on March 29, 2023, 03:38:35 PM
Classy af

https://twitter.com/JackCurryYES/status/1641172765393682432?t=XEgNZpTU5I_MO2KTTi9eaQ&s=19
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 29, 2023, 07:17:36 PM
Classy af

https://twitter.com/JackCurryYES/status/1641172765393682432?t=XEgNZpTU5I_MO2KTTi9eaQ&s=19

That's awesome on both sides
Title: Re: 2022-23 New York Yankees offseason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 30, 2023, 07:42:08 AM
Cordero is this year's Carpenter. Secret weapon.

He has a ton of tools, always been a classic AAAA player. Rakes in the minors.

Good signing while Bader is still out.