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New York Jets Football => Game Day Threads => Topic started by: MBGreen on August 12, 2022, 09:39:06 AM
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stay healthy, my friends.
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dammit...NFLN is only showing the replay of this game at 5am CST tomorrow morning. Anyone know of any live streams being available?
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We'll find the streams, my friend
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We'll find the streams, my friend
thanks papi
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dammit...NFLN is only showing the replay of this game at 5am CST tomorrow morning. Anyone know of any live streams being available?
It's live on DAZN.
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Expecting a lot of carries for Knight and Perine tonight
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It's live on DAZN.
not a subscriber
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not a subscriber
You should be
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You should be
I didn't like their service. Plus, Sunday Ticket HD keeps me a minute or 2 ahead of you guys on the feed.
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Anybody else curious whether Fant plays a series at Left and a series at right tonight? I think the prevailing assumption is Fant is playing right with Brown brought in. But there’s no shot Brown is playing tonight as he hasn’t even practiced and he’s 37 years old. One would assume they want Fant reacclimating to the Right asap and no better way than with game reps IMO.
So if Fant only plays right we know for sure Brown is left. But if Fant plays only left, I don’t think it means anything for sure, because they just want to be sure Wilson doesn’t get Blindsided with Edoga out there on his blindside. But if Fant plays 2 series one on the left (with Wilson) and one on the right (perhaps without Wilson) that also would seem to indicate Fant would play right.
Also curious to see if Mitchell ends up starting tonight over Edoga
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Sounds like big Mitch starting at RT tonight
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Mitchell is a good test for Douglas. He was always billed as an OL guy, but most of what he's done has been in free agency or 1st-round picks, which is fine. But I would expect one of his specialties to find some gords and right tackles in the middle rounds that we can develop into starters. Clark got hurt immediately, so that's not on Douglas. Mitchell is his next swing at that.
In the meantime, keep Zach upright.
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Mitchell is a good test for Douglas. He was always billed as an OL guy, but most of what he's done has been in free agency or 1st-round picks, which is fine. But I would expect one of his specialties to find some gords and right tackles in the middle rounds that we can develop into starters. Clark got hurt immediately, so that's not on Douglas. Mitchell is his next swing at that.
In the meantime, keep Zach upright.
Keep everyone upright....
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Anyone else trying to watch on the new NFL plus? It hasn't started yet despite being 7:30....
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Footbaaaaalllll!!!
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since this doesn't seem to want to play the game... anyone got a stream?
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Anybody else curious whether Fant plays a series at Left and a series at right tonight? I think the prevailing assumption is Fant is playing right with Brown brought in. But there’s no shot Brown is playing tonight as he hasn’t even practiced and he’s 37 years old. One would assume they want Fant reacclimating to the Right asap and no better way than with game reps IMO.
So if Fant only plays right we know for sure Brown is left. But if Fant plays only left, I don’t think it means anything for sure, because they just want to be sure Wilson doesn’t get Blindsided with Edoga out there on his blindside. But if Fant plays 2 series one on the left (with Wilson) and one on the right (perhaps without Wilson) that also would seem to indicate Fant would play right.
Also curious to see if Mitchell ends up starting tonight over Edoga
I hope Fant is at left for any snaps Zach plays.
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Anyone else trying to watch on the new NFL plus? It hasn't started yet despite being 7:30....
It's working for me.
https://www.nfl.com/games/jets-at-eagles-2022-pre-1
It loads in the video screen on that page, which confused me at first.
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It's working for me.
Finally got it working
Let’s see the defnse
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Quinnen is going to be a Pro Bowler, but our secondary is trash again. 4-13.
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Max Mitchell starting
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Great pocket push by Q
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Can't stand seeing #6 on a safety
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Have to have the roster sheet open in this game. Kwon is 9 apparently.
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Can't stand seeing #6 on a safety
Outside of Sauce and Quinnen, I am so rusty on numbers right now.
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Outside of Sauce and Quinnen, I am so rusty on numbers right now.
lots of new faces (which is a good thing)
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That was so stupid.
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What in the hell is Quincy doing?
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Lil Quincy trying to end Hurts' season
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Lil Quincy trying to end Hurts' season
More likely to end his own, that's a good way to get cut.
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lmao
jfc
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JFC Quincy.
One drive only for Zach.
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More likely to end his own, that's a good way to get cut.
We aren't cutting a starting linebacker for that
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JFC Quincy.
One drive only for Zach.
Maybe let's not put him out there now.
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At least he's not Harvey Langi
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We aren't cutting a starting linebacker for that
That may be the first time you've ever defended him.
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Defense did a good job not hitting Hurts there.
penalty
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The Philly D is gonna headhunt Zach now...just sit him
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The Philly D is gonna headhunt Zach now...just sit him
Max Mitchell's got this.
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If you are going to run the QB in the preseason, don't whine when he gets hit
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We really made that look easy for them
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If you are going to run the QB in the preseason, don't whine when he gets hit
Helmet to helmet out of bounds is pretty shitty in preseason though.
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If you are going to run the QB in the preseason, don't whine when he gets hit
Well...he did get popped out of bounds.
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I know it's preseason and I don't care, but that drive was straight out of last year.
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Well...he did get popped out of bounds.
freak him
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freak him
Lol
We need all the QBs so Mack can hoard them
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I know it's preseason and I don't care, but that drive was straight out of last year.
Outside of a little bit of pressure from Q, that looked identical to a year ago. No Te coverage on the TE and watching Quez Watkins walk them down the field, with a few poorly played screens tossed in there.
Wonder what Quincy’s fine will be? 100K?
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Lol
We need all the QBs so Mack can hoard them
Jets are already hoarding them. Wilson, Flacco, White, Streveler.
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Guys, we played base cover two and didn’t blitz
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Lol
We need all the QBs so Mack can hoard them
Quincy has Gardner Minshew on his FF roster.
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Guys, we played base cover two and didn’t blitz
This
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Quincy has Gardner Minshew on his FF roster.
He would be a good stash...
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Guys, we played base cover two and didn’t blitz
Belichick is proud of us
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Guys, we played base cover two and didn’t blitz
Yeah, but I haven't watched Jets football in 7 months, damnit. I was quickly reminded what it usually looks like.
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The Conk!
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Zach having competent TEs is gonna make a huge difference this year
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These eagles announcers are so biased
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Ross Tucker is one of the worst commentators in all of sports
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lol
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Jesus
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These eagles announcers are so biased
I've synced it up with the Wischusen broadcast. Haven't listened to a word of the Eagles broadcast. I'm not looking forward to interviews later.
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Zach looking ugly to start, sailed on Wilson, horrific read on that int
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Zach will be good as long as he starts making the easy throws and stops turning the ball over.
*overthrows Wilson by 10 yards*
*immediately throws interception*
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Zach looking ugly to start, sailed on Wilson, horrific read on that int
baited him
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These eagles announcers are so biased
I believe they complained about Edoga holding.
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we should've signed Kyzir White
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Ross Tucker is one of the worst commentators in all of sports
And Graham is a Philly sports homer. Which is good when I'm watching Villanova, but annoying otherwise.
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Clemons sighting
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I assume we'll see more Zach now.
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Hopefully letting Zach get the putrid football out of his system before the season starts.
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season's over
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I assume we'll see more Zach now.
I hope so, I’d rather he not end on that terrible pass
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I assume we'll see more Zach now.
Hes not allowed to come out of the game until he hits a checkdown.
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Put in Mike White. This game doesn't matter.
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Playing vanilla football with neither OTs playing. Yep, season over.
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Last year, Zach had a really impressive preseason and a horrible regular season.
Maybe this year, Zach has a horrible preseason and a really impressive regular season.
(or hopefully, he just had one overthrow on jitters, and made one bad read, and we can move on and he can be a star).
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Hes not allowed to come out of the game until he hits a checkdown.
Conklin pass seemed like a checkdown
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Playing vanilla football with neither OTs playing. Yep, season over.
Biden did this
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Put in Mike White. This game doesn't matter.
Put in the Streveler battering ram
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It sounded like they were playing Wilson two drives entering the game, and I doubt they want to leave on that note.
Not saying we need to go out on a touchdown, but let's not go out on an interception.
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Biden did this
Let's go Nazi Brandon
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Biden did this
Obviously. He's always the scapegoat.
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Slide, Zach
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Slide, Zach
Joe Girardi should have plenty of free time.
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Slide, Zach
He thought about sideline and decided it was too dangerous.
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Did Zach really get hurt?
Jesus
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And he's hurt...this is why I hate preseason
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Well, this was fun.
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Did Zach really get hurt?
Jesus
Weird, didn't even look like he stepped weird or anything
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Did Zach really get hurt?
Jesus
Probably not, no.
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yep
season's over
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Weird, didn't even look like he stepped weird or anything
He stepped around Dean. I’d wager he probably tweaked a calf or hammy, I’d guess not serious, but it’s still stupid as hell
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Weird, didn't even look like he stepped weird or anything
That's the problem.
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yep
season's over
Season's rescued now the bust is out. Super Bowl Champion Flacco to the rescue.
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I think he's fine and they're being cautious
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He's walking a little faster than I thought he would. Good sign.
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I missed Aaron Judge #46 for this?
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Pain
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I think he's fine and they're being cautious
I think he was faking to let them know they'd got their revenge for the cheap shot on Hurts.
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I think he was faking to let them know they'd got their revenge for the cheap shot on Hurts.
4D chess
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The offensive line is hardly getting any push.
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This is why you hoard quarterbacks.
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That doesn't look good, guys
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Hesitated and then still dirtied it,
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That doesn't look good, guys
What happened?
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1558245536062398467?t=8WOeGvjfoZFKeN6xTFdqFw&s=19
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That doesn't look good, guys
They called it a knee, which is bad. They said he's questionable to return, which I guess is a good sign, but is also laughable and irrelevant.
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It’s preseason, he’s not going back out there
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What happened?
Zach's injury
any non-contact injury is just never a good thing
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Zach's injury
any non-contact injury is just never a good thing
it’s definitely nerve wracking
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https://twitter.com/DanSteenkamer/status/1558244882984173569
He looks good enough walking to the locker room, but you can sometimes walk with an ACL, which is what I was terrified of before.
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What Smalls said
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They called it a knee, which is bad. They said he's questionable to return, which I guess is a good sign, but is also laughable and irrelevant.
Hoping it just looked awkward, but watching it from the side angle, his knee definitely buckled on the cut and he collapsed
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Oh excrement, I just had a thought.
Zach Wilson ACL = LaFleur/Saleh/Garoppolo reunion.
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Oh excrement, I just had a thought.
Zach Wilson ACL = LaFleur/Saleh/Garoppolo reunion.
no
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It seems our season ends earlier every year.
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no
Agreed. He’s not the guy we’d go get. We’d roll with what we have, and then we’d have to have a serious QB discussion when we likely pick top 5 again.
Which is why I’m hoping Zach just tweaked a muscle and he’s going to be fine
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no
No it won't happen or no you'll be mad?
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Oh excrement, I just had a thought.
Zach Wilson ACL = LaFleur/Saleh/Garoppolo reunion.
One of the first things I thought of if it is serious. You can't give up much for him (and his contract is a problem), but if he is ever released, we are now probably the frontrunners for him if Zach is out.
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Well there goes the season
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Zach getting hurt after not being touched right after Quincy lights up Hurts with a cheap shot. Crazy.
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Clemens looks good
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I'm hoping it's just a sprain
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The waiting is the worst
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Denzel Mims on the punt return team.
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Clemens looks good
That's good, we might need cover for Zach if he's out.
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stay healthy, my friends.
You had one job.
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You had one job.
My hatred for the preseason is well documented
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So, realistically, how long are we going to have to wait to find out what happened?
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we are cursed
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So, realistically, how long are we going to have to wait to find out what happened?
If they feel the need to do an MRI sometime tomorrow. If they don’t need to, probably post game presser
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So, realistically, how long are we going to have to wait to find out what happened?
Postgame
Unless he goes straight to the MRI and someone like Schefter or Rapoport find out what's up
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Sam Darnold is going to come right back and take full advantage of his second chance with the Jets.
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When I was a kid, this is when we would call up Vinny. I bet he can still sling it.
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I don't know how you can look at that play and think he will play at all this season
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The most optimistic offseason in about a decade and this happens. Very cool.
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https://twitter.com/profootballdoc/status/1558252974597558272?s=21&t=f9ifLG25LLuRPi-GdnQ9Ag
Kill me
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I was bummed when Becton went down...but potentially losing Zach for the season has sucked the wind out of me.
I'm tired of this excrement
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Why does this excrement always happen to us?!
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Drake London had a knee injury for the Falcons, but he's been on their sideline ever since.
Zach Wilson had a knee injury and we have not seen him since.
I think he's done.
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Great day for me to be a Jets & Padres fan
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Great day for me to be a Jets & Padres fan
hello friend
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Yeah I'm out for the tailgate.
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hello friend
Maybe we could try Tatis out at QB. Just to see how it feels
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Another Twitter doctor saying ACL.
https://twitter.com/jocktodoc/status/1558253999903703040
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Another Twitter doctor saying ACL.
https://twitter.com/jocktodoc/status/1558253999903703040
Remember, I had it first
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Mike White is cheeks
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Hopefully he’s in the MRI right now, so at least we don’t have to speculate forever.
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Mike White is cheeks
Yeah, anybody thinking he’s a legitimate starter after the bengals game is quite wrong.
Hopefully Flacco can ball out and win us some games
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As an aside I’m blown away the Philly announcing crew hasn’t mentioned Zach’s name since he walked off the field. It’s a starting QB being hurt in the preseason, how are you not reporting anything?
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Remember, I had it first
As soon as I realized it was non-contact, I thought in the back of my head he was done. I thought he was diving at first, or slipped on a cut live.
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Sam Darnold is going to come right back and take full advantage of his second chance with the Jets.
You OK, bud?
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I'd rather have Sam than Jimmy G.
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You OK, bud?
I cope with excrement like this with humor. And Darnold is one of the quarterbacks who would be available.
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I'd rather have Sam than Jimmy G.
strong disagree
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I'd rather have Sam than Jimmy G.
I know we're all in a very sensitive state of mind right now but there's no need to delusionpost
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If it really is an ACL, you have to go get Jimmy. He isn't great but he's a proven veteran that can at least hold the fort. This scheme is built for a QB like him. This team can't roll into the regular season with Mike White/Joe Flacco.
We can't hit reset again.
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I'd rather have Sam than Jimmy G.
We don't have the cap space for either. But the Darnold Redemption Tour sounds fun if only because if he comes and plays well the Dougbros are going to be so confused.
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We don't have the cap space for either.
The cap isn't real
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That Quincy Williams hit on Jalen Hurts is like a bizarro Mo Lewis'Drew Bledsoe play
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Jimmy G is a better quarterback than Sam and a better fit. Jimmy G is an upgrade at quarterback over what Wilson was likely to be this year.
Sam might make more sense because we're probably going to take another partial swing at quarterback before next offseason as Zach insurance. A 25-year old former top-5 pick is the type of swing you want to make. Zach is still the guy going into next year, but you can't put all your eggs in that basket next year. Either you get a mid-round QB and hope you get lucky, or get a veteran who can potentially start if Wilson goes down or struggles. It's kind of like the Becton situation entering this year.
I'm not sure what other quarterbacks would make sense. Flacco and White are better than most of the other potential options most likely.
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freak everything
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Jimmy G is a better quarterback than Sam and a better fit. Jimmy G is an upgrade at quarterback over what Wilson was likely to be this year.
Sam might make more sense because we're probably going to take another partial swing at quarterback before next offseason as Zach insurance. A 25-year old former top-5 pick is the type of swing you want to make. Zach is still the guy going into next year, but you can't put all your eggs in that basket next year. Either you get a mid-round QB and hope you get lucky, or get a veteran who can potentially start if Wilson goes down or struggles.
I'm not sure what other quarterbacks would make sense. Flacco and White are better than most of the other potential options most likely.
If we can't get Jimmy G, Flacco is probably our best option for this year. Time to Tank for Will Anderson (or rev up the should we draft a QB debate for the 137594th time)
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You have to make the call on Jimmy but it’s likely to be way to much for what we can afford
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We aren't going to bring Sam fuckin' Darnold back
lets stop with that nonsense
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If we can't get Jimmy G, Flacco is probably our best option for this year. Time to Tank for Will Anderson (or rev up the should we draft a QB debate for the 137594th time)
We're not tanking. This roster is too good to tank. And quite frankly, Flacco and White were just as good if not better than Wilson last year. For the 2022 season, this might not be much of a downgrade, though it limits our upside for sure. But long-term, this is devasating.
Granted, if we start 1-9 against this schedule, who knows at that point.
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We're not getting Jimmy or Sam FFS. If Zach is down for the season, and I still believe he'll be fine, it will be Flacco.
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The sequence of Lawson, Becton, and Wilson's injuries is unlike anything I've ever seen before.
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We're not getting Jimmy or Sam FFS. If Zach is down for the season, and I still believe he'll be fine, it will be Flacco.
Flacco's not lasting 17 games behind that offensive line. Myles Garrett is going to murder him.
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Zach hasn't come out of the locker room
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If we can't get Jimmy G, Flacco is probably our best option for this year. Time to Tank for Will Anderson (or rev up the should we draft a QB debate for the 137594th time)
Amazed the word "tank" is being posted at half time of the first preseason game.
I cant even...
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We're not tanking. This roster is too good to tank. And quite frankly, Flacco and White were just as good if not better than Wilson last year. For the 2022 season, this might not be much of a downgrade, though it limits our upside for sure. But long-term, this is devasating.
Granted, if we start 1-9 against this schedule, who knows at that point.
It is an extremely realistic scenario that we struggle heavily against the opening schedule, wind gets taken out of our sails, and we're picking top 3-5 in 2023. Talented rosters can play poorly, and our level of talent is still mostly speculative until proven on the field anyway.
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The sequence of Lawson, Becton, and Wilson's injuries is unlike anything I've ever seen before.
Testaverde achilles
Pennington wrist
Sanchez shoulder
Geno jaw
Darnold mono
cursed
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It is an extremely realistic scenario that we struggle heavily against the opening schedule, wind gets taken out of our sails, and we're picking top 3-5 in 2023. Talented rosters can play poorly, and our level of talent is still mostly speculative until proven on the field anyway.
Tyler Van Dyke SZN
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Flacco's not lasting 17 games behind that offensive line. Myles Garrett is going to murder him.
It's only 24 hours since I was being told how good our offensive line is and what a good job Douglas has done with it. Was Zach that important to its success?
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Flacco's not lasting 17 games behind that offensive line. Myles Garrett is going to murder him.
I'm actually OK with this happening.
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It's only 24 hours since I was being told how good our offensive line is and what a good job Douglas has done with it. Was Zach that important to its success?
Flacco cannot move outside of the pocket
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The offensive line is good enough for Flacco or White to have success. Flacco might not last 17 games because he's 37 years old and can't move.
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We will have a popgun offense with Jimmy, Flacco, or White. Jimmy is a winner and is only 30 years old. I'd take him for a fourth.
Who is best for the development of Moore and Wilson? I think it's Jimmy by a mile
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I cant believe we're discussing starting QBs again...I hate everything right now.
Time is flat freaking circle with this franchise
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We just need that damn mri result so we can just know
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I consume a lot of sports betting content for my job, and a few weeks ago, one show I was listening to was speculating that what if the Jets got Garoppolo, and how they would be far more confident in betting on the Jets this year and betting their win total over and their playoff odds.
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220813/68f2128b50679d05995d7f19d1207746.jpg)
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We will have a popgun offense with Jimmy, Flacco, or White. Jimmy is a winner and is only 30 years old. I'd take him for a fourth.
Who is best for the development of Moore and Wilson? I think it's Jimmy by a mile
Doubt he even costs a 4th. 49ers have no reason to keep him, and they've been trying to pump up his value for a while. Nobody wants to give up capital to pay for Jimmy G at that salary. He might even end up getting cut.
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God Petrine is such derriere. Huge hole and dilly dallies his way to get short of the sticks. Then jumps off sides on the punt formation, but gets away with it because the eagles called time out instead
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Doubt he even costs a 4th. 49ers have no reason to keep him, and they've been trying to pump up his value for a while. Nobody wants to give up capital to pay for Jimmy G at that salary. He might even end up getting cut.
trade them Perine
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God Petrine is such derriere. Huge hole and dilly dallies his way to get short of the sticks. Then jumps off sides on the punt formation, but gets away with it because the eagles called time out instead
If Douglas fails, Perine will be the draft pick I look back on and be like "Yep, that should have been the first warning sign." Perine and Morgan were both obviously bad picks at the time.
Nothing will be as bad as Hackenberg with Maccagnan though.
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I have to think Streveler is coming in soon. White is now very important to us, at least until we bring in someone else.
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Ruckert with a grab
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I'm expecting the worst. Out for the season. That way, anything else will be a positive
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I'm expecting the worst. Out for the season. That way, anything else will be a positive
He'd be out on the sidelines in sweats if it wasn't a big deal. It's serious.
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I consume a lot of sports betting content for my job, and a few weeks ago, one show I was listening to was speculating that what if the Jets got Garoppolo, and how they would be far more confident in betting on the Jets this year and betting their win total over and their playoff odds.
So what you're saying is that now is the perfect time to bet the Jets' over for the season?
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Bullshit rules that wasn't a TD catch.
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Ruckert with the score after a drop from Charles
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Bullshit rules that wasn't a TD catch.
that was definitely a drop
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I will freaking cut myself if I have to watch Flacco all year
I'd rather see Jimmy G, Mike White, Sam freaking Darnold.
I loathe loathe the idea of Flacco being the guy
(and there's no freaking way I see the Jets getting Darnold. There's obviously way too much bad blood)
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that was definitely a drop
Only because it's a bullshit rule. Ball was still in control when his elbow hit the ground.
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I will freaking cut myself if I have to watch Flacco all year
I'd rather see Jimmy G, Mike White, Sam freaking Darnold.
I loathe loathe the idea of Flacco being the guy
(and there's no freaking way I see the Jets getting Darnold. There's obviously way too much bad blood)
Agree with this. Roll with the unknown of White, someone young, or an actual NFL starter.
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https://twitter.com/BarryOnHere/status/1558261444449296386?t=aT_lWEq_zo6fj0LSmHsgYQ&s=19
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Should we bump the tank watch post
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Cimini and Hughes both reporting Wilson walking around locker room, no brace just in sweats with a “limp”
Would have to assume he’d be in a brace…
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1558277802826338304?t=NJYXDTmP7Vw7Ija9QXCQDQ&s=19
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Please be a sprain 🙏
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Jackson looked good on that route.
Strevler looks like a good runner, Bam knight seems to be pushing hard to make the roster.
Some interesting developments late in this one
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Jackson looked good on that route.
Strevler looks like a good runner, Bam knight seems to be pushing hard to make the roster.
Some interesting developments late in this one
Streveler is a taysom Hill clone...
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Michael Clemens with yet another pressure. He is destroying the Eagles second half oline
All in all lots of positives for the scrubs. Starters were mostly all rough to watch. None of that really matters though.
Only one thing does, what’s the prognosis for Zach?
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I would rather watch Streveler than Flacco. Flacco is better and I think we will be competitive with him but there is no longterm hope there.
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Knight looked a livewire tonight.
Points with Zach Wilson on the field: 0 (1 INT)
Points with White/Streveler on the field: 24 (0 INTs)
I think that tells us everything we need to know.
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Knight looked a livewire tonight.
Points with Zach Wilson on the field: 0 (1 INT)
Points with White/Streveler on the field: 24 (0 INTs)
I think that tells us everything we need to know.
I can't tell if you're being serious saying this based off of a single preseason game.
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I can't tell if you're being serious saying this based off of a single preseason game.
Offense better without Zach last year.
Offense better without Zach this year.
Confirmed fact.
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I can't tell if you're being serious saying this based off of a single preseason game.
Not sure if this says more about you or me.
Me, probably.
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Saleh said no update on Wilson. MRI is tomorrow, doesn’t want to speculate since he was so wrong about Mekhi…
Upon being pushed he said “ACL is supposed to be intact”
As to what that means They expect the injury to be, I have no idea
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Michael Clemens with yet another pressure. He is destroying the Eagles second half oline
All in all lots of positives for the scrubs. Starters were mostly all rough to watch. None of that really matters though.
Only one thing does, what’s the prognosis for Zach?
Micheal Clemons