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New York Jets Football => ...And The Home Of The Jets => Topic started by: Badger on April 29, 2022, 06:28:03 PM
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Godking Joe does it again
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Our new starting RB.
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Let’s gooooooo
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I’m so freaking hyped. This offense might actually be good
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freak it I love JD now
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Can we cut Ty Johnson before pick 40? Asking for a friend
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This might be the best draft I've seen for the Jets. Holy f*ck...JD is destroying it.
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I like this.
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Big, big upgrade.
Jets basically punted cornerback and running back last offseason, and now they've taken big swings at both spots.
I'm never a huge fan of taking running backs early, but Hall is probably a first-round pick in a lot of drafts, and we badly need a RB, and we badly need to help our young QB.
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He reminds me a lot of Arian Foster. Super balanced, patient, and explosive, which is perfect for a zone running offense.
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Caught 36 passes last season. A key need for us.
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freak it I love JD now
Your decoder ring is in the mail
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He reminds me a lot of Arian Foster. Super balanced, patient, and explosive, which is perfect for a zone running offense.
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That's a great comp, hadn't occurred to me.
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Cue up the Breece Hall highlight vids.
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Friend of mine is plugged in and told me weeks ago buzz was Hall would've been taken late 1st if we traded down .
Not shocked . Just surprised with the defensive guys on the board
But we got the best receiving back and arguably best rb in the draft
We're now loaded at skill positions with young hungry talent and upgraded from van roten to a pro bowler in Tomlinson
LFG
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Finally we have a solid backup to Ty Johnson.
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MC needs a legit partner. The flexibility on this roster is dirty now
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Zach has everything he needs to be successful.
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Carter. Hall. The Hawkman Backfield.
#geek
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Obligatory highlights video with shitty background music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahz0sy_LOQA
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https://www.ninersnation.com/2021/11/30/22808926/49ers-iowa-state-breece-hall-roger-craig-family-history
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Get Breece Huff now.
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Zach has everything he needs to be successful.
Weird to think that this is true.
We have 4 potential stars on our offense right now. That may not be anything we’ve ever been able to say before
Key word of course is potential… but I think any of the following could become stars
Zach Wilson
Breeze Hall
Garrett Wilson
Elijah Moore
This of course does not count OL like AVT and Mekhi Becton who both can become elite players, but you don’t think of OL as stars in the eyes of fans across the league.
Let’s freaking go
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Four starters with our first four picks. All with Pro Bowl potential.
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Get Breece Huff now.
Put them in the transporter.
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Four starters with our first four picks. All with Pro Bowl potential.
this is what jeremiah said was the goal with regards to our 1st 4 picks. obviously anything can happen after the draft and i hope all of these guys fvck next year but with regards to talent prospectus / skill / ability, all 4 of our picks can be valued as expected starters
this feeling is so foreign, i am honestly having a little bit of a difficult time processing this
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this is what jeremiah said was the goal with regards to our 1st 4 picks. obviously anything can happen after the draft and i hope all of these guys fvck next year but with regards to talent prospectus / skill / ability, all 4 of our picks can be valued as expected starters
this feeling is so foreign, i am honestly having a little bit of a difficult time processing this
This draft class right here is why it makes sense to trade Jamal Adams (or virtually any non HOF position player) for 2 first round picks. Our franchise has been dramatically improved since that day.
“I love it when a plan comes together”
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How does he become a Jets QB when he gets hit with teal and orange smoke?
Anyway, I don't think I have been this excited about the prospects for our draft picks since...who tf knows?
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I've always said that you don't take a running back until you're ready to compete.
But if you look at this roster, we are ready to compete in 2023 if the quarterback is good, and maybe 2022 if things break right.
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I've always said that you don't take a running back until you're ready to compete.
But if you look at this roster, we are ready to compete in 2023 if the quarterback is good, and maybe 2022 if things break right.
i said the same thing last night in the 1st draft discussion thread regarding how taking a RB this early feels like a luxury that i don't think this team can afford right now lol.
but JD has done so much good already that if he feels the time is now, then the time is now
we got the best RB, CB, WR in this draft
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I think of it less as a luxury pick with him being an RB and more of a continuation of building around Zach. Elite weapons on offense arent a luxury, especially with a young QB. Who cares about an RBs shelf life- if he is a legit RB1 for 5 years as Zach develops into a good QB, he’s worth it as a 2nd round pick.
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I think of it less as a luxury pick with him being an RB and more of a continuation of building around Zach. Elite weapons on offense isnt a luxury, especially with a young QB. Who cares about an RBs shelf life, if he is a legit RB1 for 5 years as Zach develops into a good QB, he’s worth it as a 2nd round pick.
This is how I feel about it too.
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I think of it less as a luxury pick with him being an RB and more of a continuation of building around Zach. Elite weapons on offense arent a luxury, especially with a young QB. Who cares about an RBs shelf life, if he is a legit RB1 for 5 years as Zach develops into a good QB, he’s worth it as a 2nd round pick.
This is how I feel about it too.
two good years out of a second round pick for us given our history would be worth it
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I think of it less as a luxury pick with him being an RB and more of a continuation of building around Zach. Elite weapons on offense arent a luxury, especially with a young QB. Who cares about an RBs shelf life- if he is a legit RB1 for 5 years as Zach develops into a good QB, he’s worth it as a 2nd round pick.
100% agree. Giving zach the weapons he needs is the best policy for this offense.
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I think of it less as a luxury pick with him being an RB and more of a continuation of building around Zach. Elite weapons on offense arent a luxury, especially with a young QB. Who cares about an RBs shelf life- if he is a legit RB1 for 5 years as Zach develops into a good QB, he’s worth it as a 2nd round pick.
Yep, and this is why I had warmed up to Breece at 38 after last night's bounty (and Joe D deemed him worthy of 36). Breece was as good an asset to Zach as anyone at that point, and LBs/Safeties/defensive depth can wait. If Breece was considered that much better than a Day 3 rb for Zach and this offense, I'm all for it.
When we traded up, I automatically assumed Breece.
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Shades of Matt Forte for me . He's got mileage from the usage but that's what RBBC is for and him and MC can do some damage in this scheme receiving
Which in turn just opens everything up for the WRs
LaFleur better not freak this up
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Shades of Matt Forte for me . He's got mileage from the usage but that's what RBBC is for and him and MC can do some damage in this scheme receiving
Which in turn just opens everything up for the WRs
LaFleur better not freak this up
First offensive snap of the season: Jeff Smith end-around
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First offensive snap of the season: Jeff Smith end-around
Trevon Wesco TE screen.
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This is the culmination of the Ozzie Newsome mantra he preached at his introductory PC
Taking the best guy on your board . Always creating competition on the building . The team never suffering from too much talent . You find ways to make it work
Young hungry elite prospects at WR and RB.
The upgrade with Tomlinson
It was JDs job the moment he drafted wilson to properly support him
Hes officially done that
Now just get 1 body for depth here at OL and snag a S or LB too
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This is the culmination of the Ozzie Newsome mantra he preached at his introductory PC
Taking the best guy on your board . Always creating competition on the building . The team never suffering from too much talent . You find ways to make it work
Young hungry elite prospects at WR and RB.
The upgrade with Tomlinson
It was JDs job the moment he drafted wilson to properly support him
Hes officially done that
Now just get 1 body for depth here at OL and snag a S or LB too
JD trades up more than Ozzie did it seems.
I'm not normally a fan of trading up, but we've done a good job of combining value and need when we've traded up. It's not like we're trading up for Chris Olave to catch the tail end of a WR tier.
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JD trades up more than Ozzie did it seems.
I'm not normally a fan of trading up, but we've done a good job of combining value and need when we've traded up. It's not like we're trading up for Chris Olave to catch the tail end of a WR tier.
JD also has to be his own man
I think he's patient in the sense he will let the other teams dictate the flow of the draft but once a guy sits number 1 on his big board long enough
That's where he deviates from traditional Ozzie
But majority of what he does reflects the fact he worked under the guy as long as he did .
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JD also has to be his own man
I think he's patient in the sense he will let the other teams dictate the flow of the draft but once a guy sits number 1 on his big board long enough
That's where he deviates from traditional Ozzie
But majority of what he does reflects the fact he worked under the guy as long as he did .
Outside of the 4th round of 2020 when we took LaMical Perine and James Morgan in back-to-back picks, I've loved what JD has done with the draft. Not every pick has worked out, but the process seems good.
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I remember pounding the table for Doug Martin back at TGG asking for some talent in the RB room and we finally have it.
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https://twitter.com/iamSauceGardner/status/1520199074699485184?s=20&t=UQ97g7oi5RHxuHH0wXxnWA (https://twitter.com/iamSauceGardner/status/1520199074699485184?s=20&t=UQ97g7oi5RHxuHH0wXxnWA)
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Outside of the 4th of 2020 when we took LaMical Perine and James Morgan in back-to-back picks, I've loved what JD has done with the draft. Not every pick has worked out, but the process seems good.
Oh I don't mean to sound like he's infallible lol
Clearly has his misses
But this draft should restore faith in even the most typical SOJF that the building is now filled with competent football minds and a coherent process that can be identified
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Oh I don't mean to sound like he's infallible lol
Clearly has his misses
But this draft should restore faith in even the most typical SOJF that the building is now filled with competent football minds and a coherent process that can be identified
I wasn't fully on board with the Sauce pick, but in retrospect when you combine it with the Johnson pick, it's great.
I don't love the Hall pick because I don't love early running backs, but he's RB1 in this draft, and the value is fine. I like it though.
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I wasn't fully on board with the Sauce pick, but in retrospect when you combine it with the Johnson pick, it's great.
I don't love the Hall pick because I don't love early running backs, but he's RB1 in this draft, and the value is fine. I like it though.
This was a dream scenario of BPA and need
If we didn't land Karloftis or Johnson with a trade up. I understand those not amped with Sauce
I view it as if you pick anyone else at 4 you're not getting a CB remotely as good as Sauce anywhere else
You pass on wilson you're not getting a WR as nearly as good as Wilson
Yet you still get the top 5 EDGE prospect in the class while snagging arguably CB1 WR1 and RB1
It's a glutton of talent
Coleman is oft injured and were 1 MC injury away from Johnson teasing us with a few highlight runs then bad pass blocking and vision elsewhere.
I had RB as something we should address rd 3 or 4
But it looks like there's going to be a ton of defensive guys waiting in rd 4 to address LB and S
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This was a dream scenario of BPA and need
If we didn't land Karloftis or Johnson with a trade up. I understand those not amped with Sauce
I view it as if you pick anyone else at 4 you're not getting a CB remotely as good as Sauce anywhere else
You pass on wilson you're not getting a WR as nearly as good as Wilson
Yet you still get the top 5 EDGE prospect in the class while snagging arguably CB1 WR1 and RB1
It's a glutton of talent
Coleman is oft injured and were 1 MC injury away from Johnson teasing us with a few highlight runs then bad pass blocking and vision elsewhere.
I had RB as something we should address rd 3 or 4
But it looks like there's going to be a ton of defensive guys waiting in rd 4 to address LB and S
Yep. The linebackers are dropping. Linebacker clearly isn't looked at as a premium position anymore, just like running back.
Safeties are gone, but if the Jets still believe in Ashtyn Davis, having him compete with Joyner for a spot across Whitehead could be a lot worse.
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I view it as if you pick anyone else at 4 you're not getting a CB remotely as good as Sauce anywhere else
I've been thinking the same since last night, it's hard to imagine an equivalent quality scenario if the positions were reversed.
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This was a dream scenario of BPA and need
If we didn't land Karloftis or Johnson with a trade up. I understand those not amped with Sauce
I view it as if you pick anyone else at 4 you're not getting a CB remotely as good as Sauce anywhere else
You pass on wilson you're not getting a WR as nearly as good as Wilson
Yet you still get the top 5 EDGE prospect in the class while snagging arguably CB1 WR1 and RB1
It's a glutton of talent
Coleman is oft injured and were 1 MC injury away from Johnson teasing us with a few highlight runs then bad pass blocking and vision elsewhere.
I had RB as something we should address rd 3 or 4
But it looks like there's going to be a ton of defensive guys waiting in rd 4 to address LB and S
Having the best player in three positions that were also three positions of need for this team as well as a top 3 player in another position of need is phenomenal work from our FO.
Time will tell on KT vs. JJ but having a future cornerstone in the secondary would give this team a LOT of flexibility in future drafts for the rest of the D.
In terms of taking a RB in Rnd 2: getting the best weapons you can around your 2nd year QB is the best way to help him succeed. If they liked Hall more than any other WR, TE ir IOL at that point than pull the damn trigger and let Zach cook.
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I've been thinking the same since last night, it's hard to imagine an equivalent quality scenario if the positions were reversed.
4. Kayvon Thibodeaux
10. Garrett Wilson
35. Breece Hall
38. Kyler Gordon
4. Kayvon Thibodeaux
10. Garrett Wilson
26. Dax Hill or Devin Lloyd
38. Andrew Booth
4. Ikem Ekwonu
10. Garrett Wilson
26. Jermaine Johnson
36. Breece Hall
40. Jaquan Brisker (if we get 40 for Becton, just making up a number).
4. Ikem Ekwonu
10. Garrett Wilson
35. Breece Hall
38. Arnold Ebikitie
40. Andrew Booth (if we get 40 for Becton, just making up a number)
Those are other options we could have done. Haven't thought that deeply about what options I prefer because I really like what we've done, and there's not much reason to second-guess. All depends how high you are on KT vs Sauce (and how high you are on 2nd-tier edges and CBs).
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Yep. The linebackers are dropping. Linebacker clearly isn't looked at as a premium position anymore, just like running back.
Safeties are gone, but if the Jets still believe in Ashtyn Davis, having him compete with Joyner for a spot across Whitehead could be a lot worse.
i feel like we also kind of forget/ignore pinnock, but he made a few solid plays at safety the last few weeks of the season. it's not perfect but we have some depth/options there
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How Smalls feels about running back is how I felt about safety. It seemed like most of the beat writers were saying we would/should take one in the second round but I always felt it was a position we could wait on. Between those two positions, I'm glad we went with the running back. Given the Dean injury, Breece was the #1 player on my board.
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How Smalls feels about running back is how I felt about safety. It seemed like most of the beat writers were saying we would/should take one in the second round but I always felt it was a position we could wait on. Between those two positions, I'm glad we went with the running back. Given the Dean injury, Breece was the #1 player on my board.
Totally fair. Safety, linebacker, running back - they're all lower priority now. I just feel that way about running back because there are so many good running backs, and so many running backs are products of their offensive line. Thomas Jones sucked in 2007 after we got him. Then he was a beast in 2008 and 2009. Maybe that scarred me.
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Hall pick is similar to Elijah Moore from last year. How did he make it out of the first?
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Hall pick is similar to Elijah Moore from last year. How did he make it out of the first?
In this case, it’s because he’s a RB. They have been so devalued. But man are we going to enjoy having him by October
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I dont get the shady comparisons. Dude looks like a baby lev bell to me
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I dont get the shady comparisons. Dude looks like a baby lev bell to me
Yeah, I see more Bell/Jonathan Taylor to his game than Shady.
But he's a faster, superior prospect than Bell was for sure.
Also, he's the best RB we've drafted since Blair Thomas in 19-freaking-90, right? He's clearly a better draft prospect than Michael Carter, Shonn Greene, Leon Washington, LaMont Jordan, McKnight.
Hall is a legit 3-down beast.
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https://twitter.com/iamSauceGardner/status/1520446433832448001?s=20&t=6yiA50-sGaBYqOGSeVaWSA (https://twitter.com/iamSauceGardner/status/1520446433832448001?s=20&t=6yiA50-sGaBYqOGSeVaWSA)
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Kai Nacua is going to try to drive up negotiations.
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https://youtu.be/AIYnE69NSAE?t=48
look at this. Dline gets into the backfield early. hall makes 2 shifts/cuts prior to the LOS to somewhat manufacture his own running lane and then explodes through it. amazing vision, agility, speed displayed here
what an effin TD
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https://youtu.be/AIYnE69NSAE?t=48
look at this. Dline gets into the backfield early. hall makes 2 shifts/cuts prior to the LOS to somewhat manufacture his own running lane and then explodes through it. amazing vision, agility, speed displayed here
what an effin TD
He always looks like he's running in slow motion. But he can fly when he needs to
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https://youtu.be/AIYnE69NSAE?t=48
look at this. Dline gets into the backfield early. hall makes 2 shifts/cuts prior to the LOS to somewhat manufacture his own running lane and then explodes through it. amazing vision, agility, speed displayed here
what an effin TD
He just glides. The play he makes at 1:40 is stupid. He makes like 4 defenders look like JV guys.
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He just glides. The play he makes at 1:40 is stupid. He makes like 4 defenders look like JV guys.
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Yup, that one was my favorite.
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Did not realize he was only 20 years old too. By the time he's up for an extension, if he's as good as I think he can be, it legitimately might even be worth paying him (only concern is the tread on the tires already)
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Did not realize he was only 20 years old too. By the time he's up for an extension, if he's as good as I think he can be, it legitimately might even be worth paying him (only concern is the tread on the tires already)
Who knows, I'd say elite RB contracts are awfully complicated, especially when you get to the elite category.
Regardless we have 5 or 6 years till we have to worry about that.
Just gotta hope the dude can ball out
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Did not realize he was only 20 years old too. By the time he's up for an extension, if he's as good as I think he can be, it legitimately might even be worth paying him (only concern is the tread on the tires already)
NPRB
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NPRB
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Never
Pay
Running
Backs
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Never
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Running
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Never poop real bad
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Too early to seriously discuss but depending on his early production they could offer him a mid-level extension early (after year 2-3) and see if he bites, instead of riding out the whole rookie contract and then overpaying him or letting him walk.
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https://www.sporttechie.com/the-nfl-draft-is-not-an-exact-science-but-next-gen-stats-is-trying-with-its-aws-powered-draft-score
Kind of an interesting article
Mostly about analytics but then also points out that Hall is one of 6 RB prospects since 2003 to have a 99 overall rating
(I do find it pecicular that Trent Richardson wasn't one of them despite his hype as the GOAT prospect wise)
(their analytics also lists Sauce among the 7 can't miss prospects of this recent draft)
(and for clarity this is about the nfl/AWS analytics not some random freaking blog)
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Generally I have little use for monetized statistical models attempting to argue why they're the greatest thing ever, but I like this model because it proves how wrong Heismanberg is about Linderbeast.
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Generally I have little use for monetized statistical models attempting to argue why they're the greatest thing ever, but I like this model because it proves how wrong Heismanberg is about Linderbeast.
I mean this is (to my understanding) the biggest and most comprehensive model out there. Again they can clearly be wrong (ie it predicted Tua and R
Toney as can't miss prospects). But the NFL and Amazon are multi-billion dollar organizations behind these models so they're probably a little more mathematical and reliable than most of these websites where it's two dudes watching YouTube videos in someone's basement.
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https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1521225765861216256
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Breece Hall media availability
https://youtu.be/r5GfvAlmX2E (https://youtu.be/r5GfvAlmX2E)
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Breece Hall media availability
https://youtu.be/r5GfvAlmX2E (https://youtu.be/r5GfvAlmX2E)
He mentioned Arian Foster as an RB he looks to model his game after. I know Heis has mentioned that comp before
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He mentioned Arian Foster as an RB he looks to model his game after. I know Heis has mentioned that comp before
I mentioned earlier in this thread how similar I thought their games were, so it’s cool to know that Breece actually models his game after him. Both guys are built for that zone running, patient then explosive style. Both guys look like they’re gliding out there and are way faster than it seems from their running style.
Foster was one of my favorite backs to watch, and I’m really excited to see how Hall plays in this offense. He should be awesome.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/new-york-jets-breece-hall-understands-he-can-help-zach-wilson-offense-right-away
Good excrement
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https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/new-york-jets-breece-hall-understands-he-can-help-zach-wilson-offense-right-away
Good excrement
Can you imagine having a job where you get paid to transcribe a press conference and get to call it journalism. This article is 85% quotes from his presser.
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Can you imagine having a job where you get paid to transcribe a press conference and get to call it journalism. This article is 85% quotes from his presser.
I actually prefer that to most Jets beat reporting of the last decade.
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Origin story fluffer piece
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/89584/49ers-great-roger-craig-part-of-football-family-molding-new-york-jets-rookie-breece-hall%3fplatform=amp
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^ I don't get it.
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^ I don't get it.
That's Breece Hall. He's not getting it either he's gotta pass block.
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That's Breece Hall.
I heard breece hall is a running back
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I heard breece hall is a running back
Breece Hall is a running back for the New York Jets of the National Football League.
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sigh......the inflection was unfortunately lost here (I thought the following 'he's not getting it either...pass blocking' facetiousness would've made that clear).
That's Bryce Hall, like duh. Maybe I should've included "he's the one wearing #28?" ; )
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Breece Hall is a running back for the New York Jets of the National Football League.
We should start a Wikipedia page
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sigh......the inflection was unfortunately lost here (I thought the following 'he's not getting it either...pass blocking' facetiousness would've made that clear).
That's Bryce Hall, like duh. Maybe I should've included "he's the one wearing #28?" ; )
I don't think running backs get lots of inflections maybe you meant to post that in the Sauce thread. I think he's played some cornerback before
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We should start a Wikipedia page
MB would edit every entry to include the person's bra size.
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MB would edit every entry to include the person's bra size.
I guess we should start with Becton then
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MB would edit every entry to include the person's bra size.
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nailed it. ; )
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Jesus christ I had no idea this dude was only 20
Apparently today's his 21st
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Breece
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Maybe lay off the message board once the edibles kick in.
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Maybe lay off the message board once the edibles kick in.
You know what you dour creep? Your hectoring mien is about as stale as it is constant and I've had about enough of your sniveling that I've had to deal with from day one. 'Lay off the message board?' You got it - adios sunshine.....and do continue to take this, a message board, as seriously as you do yourself....ta ta sunshine...
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You know what you dour creep? Your hectoring mien is about as stale as it is constant and I've had about enough of your sniveling that I've had to deal with from day one. 'Lay off the message board?' You got it - adios sunshine.....and do continue to take this, a message board, as seriously as you do yourself....ta ta sunshine...
The spelling errors are the best part. Well done!
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The spelling errors are the best part. Well done!
Your hymen is stale and your duodenum is third rate.
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Your hymen is stale and your duodenum is third rate.
Honestly I had multiple tabs open and thought this was the Arby's thread.
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Honestly I had multiple tabs open and thought this was the Arby's thread.
aRBy- Breece Hall
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aRBy- Breece Hall
Arby's
Ah-bee's
RB's
freaking illuminati, bro.
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Arby's
Ah-bee's
RB's
freaking illuminati, bro.
Breece Hall lizard person status confirmed.
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MB is buying a $200 custom Arbreece jersey
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MB is buying a $200 custom Arbreece jersey
The letters and shoulder stripes are brown from getting dipped in the jous.
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TIL Breece hasn't signed yet
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Gotta wonder what the holdup is. Can’t be offsets, he’s our 4th selection and a 2nd round RB.
Considering he’s the guy most people expect to light the league on fire year one, it would be nice to have him locked up before camp opens for rookies to report end of next week
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Rookies report this Tuesday
https://jetsxfactor.com/2022/07/12/ny-jets-dates-seven-training-camp-practices-open-fans/
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Wouldn't be a Jets off-season without another thing we get overly concerned about only for it to eventually not matter.
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he'll sign in time...not worried.
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Rookies report today. Still not signed. #FireJD <sarcasm>
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Dan Graziano
@DanGrazianoESPN
Top 2nd round is tricky this year because Pitre, pick 37, got full 3d-year guarantee. Last year, Hall’s slot (pick 36) got only 58% of Yr 3 guaranteed. Now it must be 100%, because 37 got 100%. Picks 33-36 and their teams are sorting out how much of Yr 4 should be guaranteed.
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he'll sign in time...not worried.
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#Jets second-round RB Breece Hall, who has been in the building all morning, is expected to sign his four-year rookie contract in time for rookies to report today, source said. Their last pick to sign.
like i said....
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2022 OROY
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Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
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The Jets have signed second-round pick Breece Hall, the team announced. It’s a four-year, $9.0M contract for the former Iowa State RB. It includes a $3.7M signing bonus. #Jets have all their draft picks under contract with rookies reporting today.
Back to vacation. 🏖
LFG
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Dan Graziano
@DanGrazianoESPN
Top 2nd round is tricky this year because Pitre, pick 37, got full 3d-year guarantee. Last year, Hall’s slot (pick 36) got only 58% of Yr 3 guaranteed. Now it must be 100%, because 37 got 100%. Picks 33-36 and their teams are sorting out how much of Yr 4 should be guaranteed.
So in other words Houston out here freaking up shot for people
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Breevi$
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https://twitter.com/optimisticjets/status/1560646211526627328?s=21&t=0yXLwwa-RMEixpNC9icxVQ
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https://twitter.com/optimisticjets/status/1560646211526627328?s=21&t=0yXLwwa-RMEixpNC9icxVQ
cooked that corner
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https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1578054189460119553?s=46&t=bYR2HeCNRSXuKa-IPhuc3Q (https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1578054189460119553?s=46&t=bYR2HeCNRSXuKa-IPhuc3Q)
Another one.
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The Breece Hall of Justice?
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The Breece Hall of Justice?
I like this.
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This boy good
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Playmakers, baby
https://youtu.be/HJ_2huWQFgM?t=108
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https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1579209157848485888
https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1579212041315057665
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https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1579209157848485888
https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1579212041315057665
Hook this directly into my brain.
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We're about to make Breece Hall the Rookie of the Week again.
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We're about to make Breece Hall the Rookie of the Week again.
Good thing for him MC Run is ineligible.
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I leaned over to Scotland Jet and told him "In 2 or 3 seasons, Hall is gonna evolve into Curtis Martin".
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I leaned over to Scotland Jet and told him "In 2 or 3 seasons, Hall is gonna evolve into Curtis Martin".
I was telling LJF we might need to retire another 2X jersey.
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Hey Derek Smalls....ask Seth Walder if he dropped his kid on his head before the draft.
https://twitter.com/TheJetPress/status/1579208645178716160?t=aaGFcC33wonuN5zZ7tjHCQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1579210745556107264?s=46&t=RvkJqBGd-kZ1SQaH_N0kbw
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https://twitter.com/Playlikeajet1/status/1579268922649772032?t=9XdSwuQ3Vg4k4a6Qmxro8Q&s=19 (https://twitter.com/Playlikeajet1/status/1579268922649772032?t=9XdSwuQ3Vg4k4a6Qmxro8Q&s=19)
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https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1579209157848485888?t=HSVRZbxfciOnNNxHqldMvA&s=19
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https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1579276059949735936?t=aNPZ-csGng0j7RNO7eFXUA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1579276059949735936?t=aNPZ-csGng0j7RNO7eFXUA&s=19)
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Some self vindication for banging the table for drafting an RB with a premium pick. 200 all purpose yards definitely helps out Zach more than a safety or linebacker
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This is for FedEx Ground player of the week....do the needful, gents.
https://www.nfl.com/voting/air-and-ground/?fbclid=IwAR2gkIQml8tMGgteoJ9aXHRRhYzL2CfrxkVvgxA5aDYxPu6gdiJth5oXn4k
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Lock it down
https://www.nfl.com/voting/rookies/
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Lock it down
https://www.nfl.com/voting/rookies/
did the needful...10x
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They're surely not going to let us win it again.
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They're surely not going to let us win it again.
GFY
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I added another 5 votes for Breece.....make sure you vote, you rapscallions.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/TylerIanKirk/status/1582415454647504898/photo/1
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Fedex Ground Player of the Week.
Jets Twitter remains undefeated. Pepsi Rookie results tomorrow.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/TylerIanKirk/status/1582415454647504898/photo/1
Whomever the 11th packer is that didn’t get in the frame should be ashamed
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Rookie of the Week. Again.
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Breece gonna carry around 2 belts like Dax Harwood & Cash Wheeler
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Breece gonna carry around 2 belts like Dax Harwood & Cash Wheeler
Why leave it at 2? Just go full Ultimo Dragon.
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Breece gonna carry around 2 belts like Dax Harwood & Cash Wheeler
Like you at a tailgate? (courtesy of ScotlandJet) ; )
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Breece gonna carry around 2 belts like Dax Harwood & Cash Wheeler
like the first undisputed champion chris jericho
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Breece seems poised to break the 2nd round curse we hoped Moore would break.
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Breece seems poised to break the 2nd round curse we hoped Moore would break.
Moore seemed poised to break the 2nd round curse we hoped Mims would break.
Mims seemed poised to break the 2nd round curse we hoped Maye would break.
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like the first undisputed champion chris jericho
Winnipeg's very own, babbie
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Moore seemed poised to break the 2nd round curse we hoped Mims would break.
Mims seemed poised to break the 2nd round curse we hoped Maye would break.
for as much excrement as i have talked about mims, he made a trade request, told the media he likes it here and will continue working hard to prove himself, hasn't seen a single snap all year, and hasn't said a word about it
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Some self vindication for banging the table for drafting an RB with a premium pick. 200 all purpose yards definitely helps out Zach more than a safety or linebacker
I got to brag in a private jets chat I've got going on. I said we needed to get RB late 1st or early 2nd if the value was there and was laughed at
Then when we drafted him I basically nust got to say. Looks like the jets agreed.
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https://twitter.com/eallenjets/status/1584284285171019776?t=BVW_Yo9_mEVoVubgE69-8Q&s=19
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https://twitter.com/eallenjets/status/1584284285171019776?t=BVW_Yo9_mEVoVubgE69-8Q&s=19
Womp womp. Hopefully this injury isn't too severe, but the cart to the locker room isn't a good sign.
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Womp womp. Hopefully this injury isn't too severe, but the cart to the locker room isn't a good sign.
He was walking with two trainers and they put him on the cart just to get him to the tunnel faster
doesn't mean it's not a serious injury though, but he seemed to be smirking when talking to them
fingers crossed
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Womp womp. Hopefully this injury isn't too severe, but the cart to the locker room isn't a good sign.
He walked to the cart without showing any real signs of pain or a limp, but I don't know how much we can read into that.
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Cimini reporting that Saleh says it doesn't look good, suspected ACL.
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He walked to the cart without showing any real signs of pain or a limp, but I don't know how much we can read into that.
I thought he was walking gingerly but I don't want to overanalyze 3 seconds of tv footage.
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1584327864995807232
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Cimini reporting that Saleh says it doesn't look good, suspected ACL.
https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1584327864995807232
Lying
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We suspected an ACL tear for Zach, too.
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This is how I know there is no god.
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We suspected an ACL tear for Zach, too.
I don't think Saleh ever specifically said ACL for Zach
Hopefully it's a sprain or something
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i know theyre not the same player but i wonder if we can scheme up more running touches for moore the way SF does with deebo
anything's better than giving ty johnson more touches, and even though it's not passes i'm sure it would make moore happy as well. i'd ideally like to limit loading up on carter so that we can keep him healthy too. i wonder if we bring up bam knight
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i know theyre not the same player but i wonder if we can scheme up more running touches for moore the way SF does with deebo
anything's better than giving ty johnson more touches, and even though it's not passes i'm sure it would make moore happy as well. i'd ideally like to limit loading up on carter so that we can keep him healthy too. i wonder if we bring up bam knight
Or send SF a 6th rounder for Jeff wilson
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We need a another body in the RB room ASAP
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Kid was a top 5 rb out the gate and a lock for offensive rookie of the yr .
Damn shame
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Or send SF a 6th rounder for Jeff wilson
Can we allow a 3rd Wilson on the roster?
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Can we allow a 3rd Wilson on the roster?
If it gets rid of a Johnson....yes
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I just want some good things. Why can't we have good things?
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I really wish we had kept Tevin Coleman.
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Kid was a top 5 rb out the gate and a lock for offensive rookie of the yr .
Damn shame
This is my thoughts exactly.
I was convinced this kid was going to be our franchise RB and carry us as far as we wanted to go.
It's just a damn shame.
Hope he comes back as potent as he has been.
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Early for this but given the high likelihood of Breece missing the rest of the season, I think there's a big chance of us looking for a RB replacement from one of the bad teams right now. Kareem Hunt is the first possibility that comes to mind, he's an poopchute though. Who else do you see? Jeff Wilson Jr. maybe?
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Early for this but given the high likelihood of Breece missing the rest of the season, I think there's a big chance of us looking for a RB replacement from one of the bad teams right now. Kareem Hunt is the first possibility that comes to mind, he's an poopchute though. Who else do you see? Jeff Wilson Jr. maybe?
Cam Akers?
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I don't want Kareem Hunt. Let's keep this team scumbag free.
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Cam Akers?
Please no.
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Zonovan Knight szn.
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Zonovan Knight szn.
This is the way
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Denver signed Marlon Mack off the Niners PS this morning, that would have been the right kind of pickup.
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Denver signed Marlon Mack off the Niners PS this morning, that would have been the right kind of pickup.
I would think one of:
Melvin Gordon
Cam Akers
Kareem Hunt
James Robinson
could be had for a late round pick.
However, i'm content rolling with giving Bam Knight a shot...he showed some nice burst during the preseason.
EDIT: Dink Cimini is already pushing for Kareem Hunt on twitter.
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I would think one of:
Melvin Gordon
Cam Akers
Kareem Hunt
James Robinson
could be had for a late round pick.
However, i'm content rolling with giving Bam Knight a shot...he showed some nice burst during the preseason.
EDIT: Dink Cimini is already pushing for Kareem Hunt on twitter.
Yeah I was just looking at practice squads for backs who can be picked up for nothing, and who can catch the ball and block a bit.
Duke Johnson's on Buffalo's PS as well.
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We don't need to go thrift shopping for a running back. We just lost a great player (our best offensive player).
We need to go find a good running back. This could make or break our season.
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I don't want Kareem Hunt. Let's keep this team scumbag free.
Amen!
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We don't need to go thrift shopping for a running back. We just lost a great player (our best offensive player).
We need to go find a good running back. This could make or break our season.
Correct...even if that means we trade for Kareem Hunt. I know he's pond scum, but he'd be a rental...and i've grown accustomed to winning.
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I'd take Hunt in two seconds given the situation, sorry to say.
The rest of the available names aren't even close in terms of ability. Cam Akers sucks derriere.
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If we wanted to swing for the fences, Najee Harris isn't having a great time in Pittsburgh and they're not going anywhere this year.
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If we wanted to swing for the fences, Najee Harris isn't having a great time in Pittsburgh and they're not going anywhere this year.
Pittsburgh will ask for a Day 1 or 2 pick for him...no thanks.
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I don't want Kareem Hunt. Let's keep this team scumbag free.
Agreed
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Pittsburgh will ask for a Day 1 or 2 pick for him...no thanks.
They will. Good players aren't cheap.
Detroit might listen to offers for Jamaal Williams. He's mediocre but he looks after the ball.
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Detroit might listen to offers for Jamaal Williams. He's mediocre but he looks after the ball.
He fits into the scheme LaFleur was supposed to run when Saleh brought him here.
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He fits into the scheme LaFleur was supposed to run when Saleh brought him here.
Would likely depend on how close D'Andre Swift is to being healthy. Campbell's job looks a bit precarious right now.
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They will. Good players aren't cheap.
Detroit might listen to offers for Jamaal Williams. He's mediocre but he looks after the ball.
I'd prefer to keep our 1st/2nd rounder to use on a Gord next year.
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They will. Good players aren't cheap.
Detroit might listen to offers for Jamaal Williams. He's mediocre but he looks after the ball.
Is Najee a good player? Not sure.
Doubt Lions trade Jamaal. They love thst guy in that locker room.
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So when are we getting confirmation about the knee one way or another? Later today? Tomorrow?
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The later confirmation is probably not a good sign .
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Take dcm's ACL, Breece...we need you.
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We're losing about 90 total yards per game here. We can't get that out of Bam Knight.
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So when are we getting confirmation about the knee one way or another? Later today? Tomorrow?
I assumed it would be today.
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It'll probably today, but I wouldn't read on the lack of info so far, they're probably doing further tests, not just an MRI.
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Out for the season, per everyone :(
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Torn ACL and meniscus.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1584589882785398786
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Pain
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All of the analytics nerds will say this is why you don't take a running back in the second round.
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Torn ACL and meniscus.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1584589882785398786
meniscus usually happens with ACL
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cursed franchise
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All of the analytics nerds will say this is why you don't take a running back in the second round.
The analytical needs might also say that running backs are replaceable.
Titans lost Henry last year and still got the 1 seed. Carter will have to step up. So will the OL and Zach. Hopefully Ty isn't 1st man up as RB2
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Hope this doesn't affect him next season. Just sucks.
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Carter can't carry the load by himself. He shouldn't have to either.
We have to go acquire a RB.
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Maybe the 49ers release Coleman.
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All of the analytics nerds will say this is why you don't take a running back in the second round.
He's done more already than all our 2nd rounders in the last decade put together 😅
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Maybe the 49ers release Coleman.
That was my thinking too. Might be close to my best case scenario.
We can run effectively with Carter, Coleman, and a third back not named Ty Johnson.
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Again why can't we have nice things?
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Well this freaking sucks.
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Why is it always one of our best players?!
freak!
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221024/8927acf97ff6dfcba91e75492bca1363.gif)
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Is Najee a good player? Not sure.
Doubt Lions trade Jamaal. They love thst guy in that locker room.
Except their problem isn't scoring points or singing kum ba ya in the locker room, it's that their defense is derriere. I wonder if we could make Bryce Hall or a DL part of a trade.
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This is pretty depressing. He was single-handedly making this offense semi enjoyable to watch.
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I really hope he's a quick healer and his explosiveness doesn't take a hit next year.
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I really hope he's a quick healer and his explosiveness doesn't take a hit next year.
Saquon Barkley seemed to need 2 years unless you attribute his meh 2021 to something else.
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Saquon Barkley seemed to need 2 years unless you attribute his meh 2021 to something else.
i attribute the meh to Joe Judge's incompetence.
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Saquon Barkley seemed to need 2 years unless you attribute his meh 2021 to something else.
Didn't he also roll his ankle pretty badly like 3 or 4 weeks into the season? Cooper Kupp has seemed much better after having his ACL surgery.
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I really hope he's a quick healer and his explosiveness doesn't take a hit next year.
My biggest concern after the ACL tear was confirmed.
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It's not a deathblow to the career anymore, but we should really consider adding another back via the draft or free agency
Ty Johnson has no business being an RB2 (or even an RB3).
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It's not a deathblow to the career anymore, but we should really consider adding another back via the draft or free agency
Ty Johnson has no business being an RB2 (or even an RB3).
Correct.
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Hopefully Breece is a freak like Adrian Peterson who comes back from a torn ACL to run for 2,000 yards.
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This is what we get for gloating to the analytics crew that we made the right choice in trading up for a rb
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This is what we get for gloating to the analytics crew that we made the right choice in trading up for a rb
Advanced stats are for virgins.
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This is what we get for gloating to the analytics crew that we made the right choice in trading up for a rb
I blame you and Mack...since you were in the building when it happened.
#AntiTailgateMagic
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https://twitter.com/gavin0660/status/1600156506141302784?s=19
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Imagine Breece & Bam - thank you ma’am
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https://twitter.com/BreeceH/status/1612490539206590467
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https://twitter.com/BreeceH/status/1612490539206590467
i love this kid. #nohomo
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https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1613641785888354304
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I'm still very concerned about Breece being able to return to form next year.
We saw Saquan initially struggle after a similar injury. Dobbins didn't look the same this year.
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That video also doubles as a great reason why Tomlinson was a terrible signing.
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I'm still very concerned about Breece being able to return to form next year.
We saw Saquan initially struggle after a similar injury. Dobbins didn't look the same this year.
Same here. No guarantee he returns to form period, let alone by week 1. Gotta build the line so we can get production from our lesser backs.
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Can we change this title to get rid of the ACL? Season is over. Breece is back (hopefully).
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^ this
TGT
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1620228643904696320 (https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1620228643904696320)
Damn, I've always wanted one of these but filled with Jello.
Lime green, obviously.
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Interview on NFLN
https://youtu.be/W7yugZUkxbY
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Are we crowning Breece Hall a bit early? He had a good run of 4 games before he got hurt. I'm not saying he won't be good, but I think we need to pump the brakes a little before we start listing him as a jewel in the Jets' offensive crown. Garrett Wilson did it all year, from beginning to end, no matter what doo-doo we had under center. Breece Hall is promising, Garrett Wilson delivered. Not Hall's fault, but injuries are reality.
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Are we crowning Breece Hall a bit early? He had a good run of 4 games before he got hurt. I'm not saying he won't be good, but I think we need to pump the brakes a little before we start listing him as a jewel in the Jets' offensive crown. Garrett Wilson did it all year, from beginning to end, no matter what doo-doo we had under center. Breece Hall is promising, Garrett Wilson delivered. Not Hall's fault, but injuries are reality.
No..its not early. Hall is a game changer
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2022 OROY
2023 CPOY
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Are we crowning Breece Hall a bit early? He had a good run of 4 games before he got hurt. I'm not saying he won't be good, but I think we need to pump the brakes a little before we start listing him as a jewel in the Jets' offensive crown. Garrett Wilson did it all year, from beginning to end, no matter what doo-doo we had under center. Breece Hall is promising, Garrett Wilson delivered. Not Hall's fault, but injuries are reality.
Classic February post
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i'm a big fan but i'm worried about what he'll look like after coming back from the acl injury.
some RBs come back fine, some come back changed and not as good as they used to be, some actually take a few years to get completely rolling again (saquon)
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i'm a big fan but i'm worried about what he'll look like after coming back from the acl injury.
some RBs come back fine, some come back changed and not as good as they used to be, some actually take a few years to get completely rolling again (saquon)
Valid concern. Sequon Barkley as a case in point…took a while
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I'll feel completely fine if Breece is relied upon as the number 2 back
That way he can come into it as his own and doesn't need to be relied upon day 1
The important question is who the freak can we rely upon ahead of him
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I'll feel completely fine if Breece is relied upon as the number 2 back
That way he can come into it as his own and doesn't need to be relied upon day 1
The important question is who the freak can we rely upon ahead of him
I'm hoping the Giants choose to stick with Jones and let Saquon go. Saquon and Carr plus OL in the draft. Joe D wins the offseason.
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I'll feel completely fine if Breece is relied upon as the number 2 back
That way he can come into it as his own and doesn't need to be relied upon day 1
The important question is who the freak can we rely upon ahead of him
Ty Johnson
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I get the concerns on Breece but Id rather focus on the OL which will make our other backs (and some external addition) look a lot better
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I don’t think it’s a bad idea to go in to the season with Breece penciled in as the 1a. Saquon seems like too much. Breece should be back up to full strength by week 6. Sign someone who can be a good RBBC back like Jeff Wilson, Hunt, Mostert, Singletary, Mattison or Pollard. All are capable of handling the ball full time in a pinch if needed.
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Someone needs to be brought in to fill the #2 roll and our committee numbers need to flatten out.
I'm comfortable with Breece being the #1 until he gives me a reason to not be but we need to add someone who would be an upgrade over Carter. Carter should go to #3.
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Given our limited resources I'm against paying a RB FA money. Just improve the rest of the team. We'll be fine at RB.
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Given our limited resources I'm against paying a RB FA money. Just improve the rest of the team. We'll be fine at RB.
I'd be fine with bringing in a mid rounder assuming picks one and two go to the OLine and defense.
Unless improving our OLine also turns Bam Knight into a.solid.#2 HB.
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Given our limited resources I'm against paying a RB FA money. Just improve the rest of the team. We'll be fine at RB.
Can always go value diving
I mean there's reports that Zeke is going to be forced to take close to the vet minimum.
I'd be more than happy to give him some kind of 1 year heavily incentived contract. I think he's done, but also low risk with moderate reward
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No interest in Zeke and his stupid feed me excrement.
I'd rather do FB dives with Ty Johnson.
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Are we crowning Breece Hall a bit early? He had a good run of 4 games before he got hurt. I'm not saying he won't be good, but I think we need to pump the brakes a little before we start listing him as a jewel in the Jets' offensive crown. Garrett Wilson did it all year, from beginning to end, no matter what doo-doo we had under center. Breece Hall is promising, Garrett Wilson delivered. Not Hall's fault, but injuries are reality.
Not early imo . He made a mediocre OL look even better than they were
The kid is definitely a top 5 RB. But he won't be healthy or return to form until 2024 imo
We need to draft a other rb in rd 4 or 5 .
Not letting a recovering hall an undersized MC and Knight be the RBBC if my job depended on it
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2023 CPOY
Yeah . Agreed
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Zeke sucks. There's no reward there. He's done.
There are a million running backs out there. If Breece's injury was that bad where it affected his availability next season, we probably would have heard about it by now or will hear about it soon.
It came out today that Javonte Williams may miss time last year after his ACL last season.
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2023 CPOY
If Damar Hamlin plays a snap next year and doesn't commit a major crime, that race is over.
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Zeke sucks. There's no reward there. He's done.
There are a million running backs out there. If Breece's injury was that bad where it affected his availability next season, we probably would have heard about it by now or will hear about it soon.
It came out today that Javonte Williams may miss time last year after his ACL last season.
Nobody expects Breece to be unavailable next year
The concern just is that he won't be the same player he was last year
So I think it's reasonable to have a plan where you don't depend on him being the savior of this offense. Especially if we don't have a savior at QB
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I think Breece will be fine next year, I'm just saying he really had 4 good games before the injury so I think we should maybe see a little bit more before he's Curtis Martin. He might be great, but let's see it for a whole season.
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Zeke sucks. There's no reward there. He's done.
There are a million running backs out there. If Breece's injury was that bad where it affected his availability next season, we probably would have heard about it by now or will hear about it soon.
It came out today that Javonte Williams may miss time last year after his ACL last season.
Javonte tore up his ACL, LCL, and posterolateral corner, similar to the Dobbins injury that took him over a year to come back from. Breece was thankfully just a clean ACL, so the projected recovery timeline should be better for him than Javonte.
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With better offensive line play, I'm confident in Bam and Carter carrying the load until Hall is back to form.
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Jets coach Robert Saleh said Breece Hall (knee) "looks fantastic" and ESPN's Rich Cimini writes Hall is "expected to be ready for Week 1."
Keep in mind that as of January, Hall was aiming for a training camp return and that appears to now be off the table, as Cimini writes that it "appears unlikely" Hall will participate in camp. Hall should be considered questionable for Week 1 after tearing his ACL on October 23rd. Michael Carter, Zonovan Knight, and Ty Johnson will split workloads in training camp and preseason at the very least. Hall is more likely to help in the second half of the 2023 fantasy season given how cautiously he'll be worked in early.
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[Running back] is "expected to be ready for Week 1."
Another cursed sports phrase
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To me it seems like bad news that is being sugar coated as good news
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To me it seems like bad news that is being sugar coated as good news
Of course you would see it that way
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To me it seems like bad news that is being sugar coated as good news
Ben Allbright is reporting that Breece actually got his leg amputated
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Of course you would see it that way
Well the way I'm reading it
Was Breece was expected to be ready by training camp. And now that's off the table. But he looks fantastic
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Did anyone here honestly believe he'd be ready by TC?
Lol I'll he happy if he's even ready week 1
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Another cursed sports phrase
He's in the best shape of his career.
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How does “expected to be ready for week 1” translate to “won’t be ready for camp”?
Was there something else Saleh said that wasn’t quoted? He doesn’t need to be 100% by Day 1 of camp to play week 1.
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How does “expected to be ready for week 1” translate to “won’t be ready for camp”?
Was there something else Saleh said that wasn’t quoted? He doesn’t need to be 100% by Day 1 of camp to play week 1.
Gotta be fluent in Salehspeak
"He's expected to be ready for week one" = "This guy's knee is fucked"
"I'm not worried about Elijah, he's one of our high character guys" = "Elijah Moore is a dangerous psychopath"
"He's played his tail off" = "Greg Van Roten is dogshit"
"Any update on Becton?" "No." = "I will raise my legion of children to hate Mekhi with the fury of a thousand suns"
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Antwan V. Staley
@antwanstaley
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10m
Robert Saleh says Jets RB Breece Hall "looks strong and poweful" as he is already hitting over 22 on the GPS. Said they're optimistic he will be ready for Week 1's matchup against the Bills.
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https://twitter.com/AryePulli/status/1684675686861058048 (https://twitter.com/AryePulli/status/1684675686861058048)
I don't know if I can ride a bike 23 MPH
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He's in the best shape of his career.
This has really given him time to work on his throwing motion.
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He's back.
https://twitter.com/zackblatt/status/1691439210413056000?s=46&t=tBlVHlSFywR086SxukGbXg
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Whooooooo. As big a deal as Arod and Garrett are, Hall being the guy he was a year ago is going to be what makes this offense special and honestly scary as hell
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https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1691463793149407233?t=fY1eW6D2TyRQ5T6glGPnNw&s=19
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https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1691463793149407233?t=fY1eW6D2TyRQ5T6glGPnNw&s=19
I've used one of those inflatable treadmills. They're very weird.
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https://twitter.com/antwanstaley/status/1700541023590523343?s=20
Megapowers it is.
(https://media.tenor.com/5HK73eJl6FIAAAAd/hulk-hogan-handshake.gif)
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setting my expectations very low on hall. i just want him to be healthy this year, that's all, and i hope we don't burden him with too much during the comeback
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setting my expectations very low on hall. i just want him to be healthy this year, that's all, and i hope we don't burden him with too much during the comeback
I think Cooks contract strongly suggests we don't intend to
But this is also us all in so, all in
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He is so back
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Lets gooooooo
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Dude could be the first non QB MVP if we gave him the rock 450 times this year.
Please note, that is a horrible idea. But he’s so damn good, if we did that he might well have close to 2,200 total scrimmage yards.
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His carries per game number is going to have to go up as this season progresses.
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Man, Breece is a stud. Not looking forward to him holding out in 2 years.
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Averaged 54 yards per carry in the first half.
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Man, Breece is a stud. Not looking forward to him holding out in 2 years.
freak Heis' coffee mug.
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Breece is the most dynamic dude in the league.
The end.
I said in the game thread, if this dude got 400 touches he’d have a shot at MVP. We won’t do it obviously, but if we did he might have 2200 yards from scrimmage
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Breece is the most dynamic dude in the league.
Calm down
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I know for several attempts we were resting him after long runs but Dalvin Cook and Michael Carter getting 100% of the red zone carries in a game is not a trend that should be continued after this game.
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https://x.com/pff_natejahnke/status/1701981574911103415?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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I know for several attempts we were resting him after long runs but Dalvin Cook and Michael Carter getting 100% of the red zone carries in a game is not a trend that should be continued after this game.
Ty Johnson time
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https://x.com/pff_natejahnke/status/1701981574911103415?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
He is an alien
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https://x.com/pff_natejahnke/status/1701981574911103415?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
PFF: Drafting Malik Willis would still have been better value because he could have been converted to RB
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https://x.com/ihartitz/status/1702047079403536635?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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https://x.com/ihartitz/status/1702047079403536635?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Does Stevenson have negative YAC?
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Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
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8m
What ACL injury?
Jets RB Breece Hall recorded two of the 10 fastest speeds for a ballcarrier in Week 1, per @NextGenStats
. #Jets
7. Hall, 83-yard run -- 20.54 mph
10. Hall, 26-yard run -- 20.21 mph
FYI: Tyreek Hill had the fastest time, 21.66 mph on a 47-yard reception.
let's ride
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he hit 21.87 on the broncos TD run last year. only his first game with real activity back
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he hit 21.87 on the broncos TD run last year. only his first game with real activity back
I hit 22.03 on the way to Rick's.
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I hit 22.03 on the way to Rick's.
I hit 36.08 on the way to Arbys
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i hit 22 MPH running the other way when lisa wilson threw herself prone in front of me
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i hit 22 MPH running the other way when lisa wilson threw herself prone in front of me
Given the opportunity with her you would be like a rat up a drainpipe and anything you say to the contrary is a lie.
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i hit 22 MPH running the other way when lisa wilson threw herself prone in front of me
Given the opportunity with her you would like a rat up a drainpipe and anything you say to the contrary is a lie.
i hit 22 MPH running the other way when lisa wilson threw herself prone in front of me
Dswordz would break the space-time continuum if he caught a glance of the elusive Gaga cameltoe.
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Dswordz would break the space-time continuum if he caught a glance of the elusive Gaga cameltoe.
Given the opportunity with her you would be like a rat up a drainpipe and anything you say to the contrary is a lie.
lady gaga is of course a different story but lisa wilson has fetal alcohol syndrome eyes and the gene is so strong she's passed it off to all of her progeny, i would never risk inseminating her. i was depressed about rodgers the other night but i was completely serious, i would rather die than pronebone her
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Sometimes I love this place.
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PRONE
BONE
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lady gaga is of course a different story but lisa wilson has fetal alcohol syndrome eyes and the gene is so strong she's passed it off to all of her progeny, i would never risk inseminating her. i was depressed about rodgers the other night but i was completely serious, i would rather die than pronebone her
A few tequila shots will make you do some wild excrement. One minute your staring at that Cuervo label, then BAM! Prone........bone.
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Breece Hall has 153 rushing yards ... and 157 rushing yards after contact (PFF)
Read it again
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Breece Hall has 153 rushing yards ... and 157 rushing yards after contact (PFF)
Read it again
He also has over half of his total yards on 1 carry
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https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1706786442016338322
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He also has over half of his total yards on 1 carry
the most annoying thing about that run is that garrett wilson stopped blocking and raised his finger up in the air like it was a TD, and the guy he wasn't trying to block ended up catching breece lol
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https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1708980185171628233
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https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1709597879457772013?s=20 (https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1709597879457772013?s=20)
Breece: unlimited.
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https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1709597879457772013?s=20 (https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1709597879457772013?s=20)
Breece: unlimited.
Just in time for us to play Mr. Unlimited.
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Just in time for us to play Mr. Unlimited.
He does so much corny excrement that I completely forgot about that one.
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https://x.com/jgrayjets/status/1709983187714093276?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
This is crazy
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GDub ran a 4.38 and Sauce ran a 4.41 at the combine
Breece ran a 4.39
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Why does he keep getting chased down then?
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Why does he keep getting chased down then?
Blistering 40 then the tank runs dry?
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Why does he keep getting chased down then?
I believe the first week was a “tank” issue. Last week he was sort of running the dude down himself and trying to sling him around to get loose and ended up getting tackled
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Why does he keep getting chased down then?
https://x.com/alexcaruso/status/1709969992190406803?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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Why does he keep getting chased down then?
First week was a tank issue, last week I think the blocker made him break stride, slow up, and make a couple cuts back and forth. Idk if he breaks it but if he cuts straight upfield he had a better chance
https://x.com/mattverderame/status/1709181892405133799?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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First week was a tank issue, last week I think the blocker made him break stride, slow up, and make a couple cuts back and forth. Idk if he breaks it but if he cuts straight upfield he had a better chance
https://x.com/mattverderame/status/1709181892405133799?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Conklin fucked that up so hard.
#ITTFFSP
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garrett wilson effed up his first big run week 1. he stopped blocking his man and put a #1 in the air like breece was already housing it. then when he realized he tried to catch up to his man but by that point it was too late
it's time for breece to break another one this week, this time for a TD
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garrett wilson effed up his first big run week 1. he stopped blocking his man and put a #1 in the air like breece was already housing it. then when he realized he tried to catch up to his man but by that point it was too late
it's time for breece to break another one this week, this time for a TD
Ask and ye shall receive
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https://x.com/MattBowen41/status/1711483714624963018?s=20
This is about as perfect as it gets.
The fullback counter made the linebacker take a false step and that was that. It gave Mitchell enough time to reach him.
I wish I could see the safety on this one. I bet he was frozen.
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https://x.com/MattBowen41/status/1711483714624963018?s=20
This is about as perfect as it gets.
The fullback counter made the linebacker take a false step and that was that. It gave Mitchell enough time to reach him.
I wish I could see the safety on this one. I bet he was frozen.
nice from mitchell and nice pull from laken there. very nice design.
funny thing is that counter is probably bawden's biggest contribution to the play. breece was already way past the guy he ended up picking up and blocking
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https://www.nfl.com/voting/air-and-ground/
Do the needful
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https://www.nfl.com/voting/air-and-ground/
Do the needful
Voted more times than a Chicago corpse
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If he doesn't get it I blame every person who isn't me.
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https://www.nfl.com/voting/air-and-ground/
Do the needful
https://x.com/nyjets/status/1712184886310654319?s=20
nice work, gents.
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When Breece plays, Jets are 8-0 when he scores a TD and 1-6 when he doesn't.
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Yeah if a defense is keeping our best offensive players out of the endzone we’re typically fucked, especially given how historically bad our passing game is.
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https://x.com/nfl/status/1719466778265575907?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Remember when Zach was spiking screen passes into the turf his rookie year
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https://x.com/nfl/status/1719466778265575907?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Remember when Zach was spiking screen passes into the turf his rookie year
There's another angle of this that shows just how difficult of a throw it actually was.
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There's another angle of this that shows just how difficult of a throw it actually was.
Well?
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(I thought that view was impressive)
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Well?
https://x.com/michael_nania/status/1719484301350232323?s=46&t=5ospF-7U7rY0VTGIg3PZLg
BoyGreen is gonna freak me up for posting this
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https://x.com/michael_nania/status/1719484301350232323?s=46&t=5ospF-7U7rY0VTGIg3PZLg
BoyGreen is gonna freak me up for posting this
Damn I am high AF this is the one I meant to post and I had never even seen the clip I posted, I’m surprised it’s even relevant. Prob clicked an extra link
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https://x.com/michael_nania/status/1719484301350232323?s=46&t=5ospF-7U7rY0VTGIg3PZLg
BoyGreen is gonna freak me up for posting this
Unless you are a pre-broken board you should be ok.
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https://x.com/michael_nania/status/1719484301350232323?s=46&t=5ospF-7U7rY0VTGIg3PZLg
BoyGreen is gonna freak me up for posting this
He can't even throw overhand? Zach sux
Also, I've reported you to BoyGreen and he's gonna karate chop you
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He can't even throw overhand? Zach sux
Also, I've reported you to BoyGreen and he's gonna karate chop you
(https://media.tenor.com/MB9_GWks5N8AAAAd/netflix-spoilers-stingray.gif)
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(https://media.tenor.com/MB9_GWks5N8AAAAd/netflix-spoilers-stingray.gif)
I didn't know that Larry Hall knew karate
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I didn't know that Larry Hall knew karate
you need to watch Cobra Kai...it's perfect cheese sprinkled with Larry Hall ax kicks (Stingray).
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you need to watch Cobra Kai
Thanks, I'll pass
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Thanks, I'll pass
loss4u
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https://x.com/nextgenstats/status/1722342803269980528?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Our offense stinks and is holding back our best weapon
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Our offense stinks and is holding back our best weapon
I can't believe Hackett's shitty play calling is impacting Nick Bawden so much
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I can't believe Hackett's shitty play calling is impacting Nick Bawden so much
*Banden
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(https://i.ibb.co/DQ754YH/IMG-2211.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Pg5wxMv)
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Breece Hall apologizing to Jets fans and saying we don't deserve this makes me mad for him
Hes the last guy anyone should be blaming for anything lol
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Breece Hall apologizing to Jets fans and saying we don't deserve this makes me mad for him
Hes the last guy anyone should be blaming for anything lol
Similar to Garrett, he has several miscues each game too. He seems to drop a pass or do some ridiculous YOLO cutback every game. I know he’s just trying to make something happen but still.
Everyone has been bad.
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Similar to Garrett, he has several miscues each game too. He seems to drop a pass or do some ridiculous YOLO cutback every game. I know he’s just trying to make something happen but still.
Everyone has been bad.
I agree witb that but on tbe list of people sucking. There's a dozen people to name before him
Especially since we cant run block to save our life
Garrett has been objectively bad last few weeks
Hall statically bad since Denver hes running into walls 85% of the time lol there's no blocking to
Trust so reads are mostly irrelevant
For every miscue he has garrett has had 2 and the OL and Zach 3 or 4
That's my sentiment with the prior statement
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I think the entire team is pressing because nobody believes they can score.
Breece, GW and the defense seem to take more chances recently because they think they need to score on every play. And I don't blame them.
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I think the entire team is pressing because nobody believes they can score.
Breece, GW and the defense seem to take more chances recently because they think they need to score on every play. And I don't blame them.
This is definitely true
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I think the entire team is pressing because nobody believes they can score.
Breece, GW and the defense seem to take more chances recently because they think they need to score on every play. And I don't blame them.
It's why we have so many penalties too. If Travis Kelce misses a block, he lets it go, because he thinks either Mahomes will make something happen regardless or they'll pick it up on the next play/drive. Everyone on this squad is so worried that their mistake will doom the team that they're forcing, leading to mistakes that doom the team.
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It's why we have so many penalties too. If Travis Kelce misses a block, he lets it go, because he thinks either Mahomes will make something happen regardless or they'll pick it up on the next play/drive. Everyone on this squad is so worried that their mistake will doom the team that they're forcing, leading to mistakes that doom the team.
It’s all cyclical for sure. It’s been so bad for so long, no one on the team believes they actually can score and subsequently are pressing every snap, and every person is trying to do their job, and the job of the guy next to them, which leads to everybody failing at their own job. Belichecks freaking “do your job” mantra would probably do this offense some good.
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https://x.com/michael_nania/status/1729131791469138379?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
When is he getting benched
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Glad Breece took it as just "constructive criticism" but Saleh calling him out for not grinding out "grimy" yards is some next-level bullshit.
Of all the people Bob could call out, he picks Hall?
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Glad Breece took it as just "constructive criticism" but Saleh calling him out for not grinding out "grimy" yards is some next-level bullshit.
Of all the people Bob could call out, he picks Hall?
A defensive minded HC calling out an offensive player.....you discovered Bigfoot.
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A defensive minded HC calling out an offensive player.....you discovered Bigfoot.
Yeah, yeah, I get that.
But of everyone, he chose Breece? Dude is responsible for 20% of this year's TDs, 55% of the team's rushing yards, and 31% of the offense's total yards for the year.
I can think of more than a dozen guys who should be called out before Hall.
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Saleh is a dope
No OL or pass game to prevent run blitzing most of the game . It's Breece Halls fault
Why isn't Izzy getting touches ?
"Hes not there in pass blocking yet"
Neither is your entire offensive line you freaking Mook.
This is one of those cases where hes just making an example of the few players who can take the criticism instead of just being honest the roster sucks on this side of the ball top to bottom minus Breece and Garrett
Everyone is pressing because they know the passing game is useless and if we don't get a pick 6 or a explosive play we're putting up donuts on the scoreboard .
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Yeah, yeah, I get that.
But of everyone, he chose Breece? Dude is responsible for 20% of this year's TDs, 55% of the team's rushing yards, and 31% of the offense's total yards for the year.
I can think of more than a dozen guys who should be called out before Hall.
But...he's not wrong. Breece isn't running as well either, and he's looking for home runs every play. Hard to blame him, but he could be doing more. Everyone can be doing more. Breece himself even admits that he's making mistakes.
Everyone is pressing. Including Breece. His lack of production is far more due to the offensive line, and everyone knows that. But Saleh needs to coach everyone. Can't coddle Breece just because he's really talented.
Plus, I don't know the context of the quotes, but I assume they came from a press conference when he was asked about Breece, so he gave an answer.
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But...he's not wrong. Breece isn't running as well either, and he's looking for home runs every play. Hard to blame him, but he could be doing more. Everyone can be doing more. Breece himself even admits that he's making mistakes.
Everyone is pressing. Including Breece. His lack of production is far more due to the offensive line, and everyone knows that. But Saleh needs to coach everyone. Can't coddle Breece just because he's really talented.
Plus, I don't know the context of the quotes, but I assume they came from a press conference when he was asked about Breece, so he gave an answer.
They basically just asked his YPC difference and lack of production aside from tbe recieving TDs.
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But...he's not wrong. Breece isn't running as well either, and he's looking for home runs every play. Hard to blame him, but he could be doing more. Everyone can be doing more. Breece himself even admits that he's making mistakes.
Everyone is pressing. Including Breece. His lack of production is far more due to the offensive line, and everyone knows that. But Saleh needs to coach everyone. Can't coddle Breece just because he's really talented.
Plus, I don't know the context of the quotes, but I assume they came from a press conference when he was asked about Breece, so he gave an answer.
If it was in context of being directly asked about Breece's production "being down" then I can understand where it came from. Under no other circumstances would it, and even then, it's ridiculous.
Could Breece be doing more? Sure. He could be returning punts and handling the long snapping too. But FFS, calling out Breece when he coddled Zach all year is insane, especially since anyone with eyes knows Breece is a victim of zero passing game, uncreative playcalling, and the league's worst line. I don't recall him calling out Cobb or Lazard or Uzomah. Or anyone on the OL. Or Dalvin "$7M doesn't buy you 4YPC or blocks on passing downs" Cook.
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If it was in context of being directly asked about Breece's production "being down" then I can understand where it came from. Under no other circumstances would it, and even then, it's ridiculous.
Could Breece be doing more? Sure. He could be returning punts and handling the long snapping too. But FFS, calling out Breece when he coddled Zach all year is insane, especially since anyone with eyes knows Breece is a victim of zero passing game, uncreative playcalling, and the league's worst line. I don't recall him calling out Cobb or Lazard or Uzomah. Or anyone on the OL. Or Dalvin "$7M doesn't buy you 4YPC or blocks on passing downs" Cook.
I don't look at this as "calling him out." It's the truth. Breece said basically the exact same thing. And it's easy to see watching the games. So if Breece agrees, Saleh agrees, and the film agrees, what's the issue? Breece is a star, and he's held to a high standard. If Breece didn't agree and it caused an issue, then I wouldn't be happy with Saleh, but everyone agrees that these are facts.
He literally just benched Lazard, said he's not playing to his standard, said he lost his edge, and said he's here for 1.5 more years when he's under contract for 3.5 more years. If that's not calling someone out, I don't know what is, at least from a players' coach like Saleh.
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If it was in context of being directly asked about Breece's production "being down" then I can understand where it came from. Under no other circumstances would it, and even then, it's ridiculous.
Could Breece be doing more? Sure. He could be returning punts and handling the long snapping too. But FFS, calling out Breece when he coddled Zach all year is insane, especially since anyone with eyes knows Breece is a victim of zero passing game, uncreative playcalling, and the league's worst line. I don't recall him calling out Cobb or Lazard or Uzomah. Or anyone on the OL. Or Dalvin "$7M doesn't buy you 4YPC or blocks on passing downs" Cook.
He's literally dropped all of those other players. He's saying to Breece "you're a star and you can do better next week", to the four you cite he's said "you're excrement, we've got better on the roster than you, freak off".
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Breece has a long TD run against the Broncos, a long TD catch against the Giants, and the long run against Buffalo week 1 where he got caught.
He’s been pretty absent other than that
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Week 1: 10 attempts for 127 yards
Week 2: 4 for 7
Week 3: 12 for 18
Week 4: 6 for 56
Week 5: 22 for 177
Week 6: 12 for 39
Week 7: 12 for 17
Week 8: 16 for 50
Week 9: 13 for 28
Week 10: 10 for 23
Week 11: 7 for 25
Most of our games he’s been completely ineffective on the ground.
He hasn’t played up to his potential this year, at all.
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Breece has a long TD run against the Broncos, a long TD catch against the Giants, and the long run against Buffalo week 1 where he got caught.
He’s been pretty absent other than that
Long run against the chiefs. His first touch of the season was a 20 something yarder against the Bills as well.
Collectively, the rest of the offense has what? Am I missing any big plays this year?
Slant route to the house by Garrett in week 2
Long pass to Lazard that’s under thrown against the chiefs
Deep ball from our goal line to Garrett in the Eagles game
Last two plays vs giants in regulation, 25-30 yards to Garret and then 25-30 for Lazard to put us in FG range
Garret had a 35 yard catch and run against the Raiders
Soooo Breece basically has the same number of big plays by himself that the rest of the offense has. He has 55% of our tds this season. I’m not sure how you can call him absent. He isn’t perfect, and clearly not Barry Sanders levels of elusive in that he can do it all on his own. But dude is freaking special, and we are wasting him (and Garrett) with this bullshit scheme and OL and QB talent right now.
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Long run against the chiefs. His first touch of the season was a 20 something yarder against the Bills as well.
Collectively, the rest of the offense has what? Am I missing any big plays this year?
Slant route to the house by Garrett in week 2
Long pass to Lazard that’s under thrown against the chiefs
Deep ball from our goal line to Garrett in the Eagles game
Last two plays vs giants in regulation, 25-30 yards to Garret and then 25-30 for Lazard to put us in FG range
Garret had a 35 yard catch and run against the Raiders
Soooo Breece basically has the same number of big plays by himself that the rest of the offense has. He has 55% of our tds this season. I’m not sure how you can call him absent. He isn’t perfect, and clearly not Barry Sanders levels of elusive in that he can do it all on his own. But dude is freaking special, and we are wasting him (and Garrett) with this bullshit scheme and OL and QB talent right now.
He also has as many big plays as he has games with 25 yards rushing
I would trade a big play or 2 for moving down the field more consistently
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He also has as many big plays as he has games with 25 yards rushing
I would trade a big play or 2 for moving down the field more consistently
Honest question for the fan base…
Which RB would you rather have in their 3rd year in the league
- Curtis Martin
- Breece Hall
Curtis was the master of consistency, but rarely a big play creator. Breece makes so many big plays, but is nowhere near as consistent to this point as Curtis was.
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Glad none of you folks are my boss.
"I know you do more than half the work in this 6 person department, but grind through lunch and find ways to get more done every day, will you?"
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He also has as many big plays as he has games with 25 yards rushing
I would trade a big play or 2 for moving down the field more consistently
Given how impossible it is to move the ball, I suspect any Jet fan would.
I mentioned it elsewhere, Breece is averaging 0.0 yards per carry before contact since Breece got hurt. How is he (or any RB in NFL history) supposed to consistently move down the field with that type of blocking production? Especially when he’s getting like 10 rushing touches per game lately because we can’t convert 3rd downs and are running like 45 plays a game total.
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Glad none of you folks are my boss.
"I know you do more than half the work in this 6 person department, but grind through lunch and find ways to get more done every day, will you?"
He’s made an impact in approximately 4/11 games this year
The rest there would be no dropoff between him and Ty Johnson
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Given how impossible it is to move the ball, I suspect any Jet fan would.
I mentioned it elsewhere, Breece is averaging 0.0 yards per carry before contact since Breece got hurt. How is he (or any RB in NFL history) supposed to consistently move down the field with that type of blocking production? Especially when he’s getting like 10 rushing touches per game lately because we can’t convert 3rd downs and are running like 45 plays a game total.
But why isn't he better? If he's a star, he should be able to overcome all that, shouldn't he?
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https://x.com/zackblatt/status/1730312509398155311?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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https://x.com/zackblatt/status/1730312509398155311?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
I still don't like Saleh calling him out, but I love his attitude about it. Foundational player.
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I still don't like Saleh calling him out, but I love his attitude about it. Foundational player.
It is knowing your players. If Breece took it poorly, you would be right, it would have been a bad idea. But instead it looks like Saleh pushed the right button here.
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Week 1: 10 attempts for 127 yards
Week 2: 4 for 7
Week 3: 12 for 18
Week 4: 6 for 56
Week 5: 22 for 177
Week 6: 12 for 39
Week 7: 12 for 17
Week 8: 16 for 50
Week 9: 13 for 28
Week 10: 10 for 23
Week 11: 7 for 25
Most of our games he’s been completely ineffective on the ground.
He hasn’t played up to his potential this year, at all.
13 carries for 16 yards
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Not trying to make excuses for him, because Cook was getting more yards in the same offense, but how many of his runs did he get first and even second contact behind the line?
Whenever he's in the game, the defense just targets him.
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Not trying to make excuses for him, because Cook was getting more yards in the same offense, but how many of his runs did he get first and even second contact behind the line?
Whenever he's in the game, the defense just targets him.
It doesn’t matter who is back there.
We can’t block anybody. They aren’t targeting anyone. They are just defending the run and we can’t move the defense.
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It doesn’t matter who is back there.
We can’t block anybody. They aren’t targeting anyone. They are just defending the run and we can’t move the defense.
You sound like Connor Rodgers. "You could put Barry Sanders back there and it wouldn't matter." And it's sadly true.
I meant the same thing about defending the run. Whenever Breece is on the field, the defense just sells out against the run. It feels like it happens more when Breece is on the field than Cook, but maybe that's just my bias.
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https://x.com/michael_nania/status/1732473482405888347?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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Well there's the answer to my question. Dude barely has the ball in his hands and he's getting hit. Hard to get positive yards no matter how hard you grind.
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Those grimy yards doe
You know, the ones that exist outside of time and space
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That third run is not a bounce. Take the 3 yards.
The rest of them, no shot.
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As much as I said Breece hadn't proven himself to be the elite RB everyone thought he was last year (because he hadn't had the time), this year I will say he hasn't proven he's as bad as some suggest because he has no chance. Walter Payton would have 2 ypc behind this line.
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Zach Wilson is Mormon Mahomes once he gets a line and an OC
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https://x.com/noahpires_/status/1733098855313330381?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
freak lol
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Brownlee, Rodgers and Schweitzer OUT.
JFM, Breece and Warren QUESTIONABLE.
Becton, Conklin, Turner and Quincy all a full go.
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Rodgers OUT.
no excrement
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no excrement
Your lack of faith in his healing powers is disappointing.
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I’m so freaking hyped. This offense might actually be good
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The real reason I came in here:
https://twitter.com/BreeceH/status/1733608531406848368?t=GkFaPwgzbKd2eY55E0pb-g&s=19
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Jesus those fines are steep.
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Zach has everything he needs to be successful.
This is it. The post that cursed the OL.
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This is it. The post that cursed the OL.
Pretty sure that was the coaching and training staff but I'm down with blaming other posters for problems they can't possibly control.
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The NFL's fines have been ridiculous all season.
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The real reason I came in here:
https://twitter.com/BreeceH/status/1733608531406848368?t=GkFaPwgzbKd2eY55E0pb-g&s=19
this league is freaking shambolic
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Pretty sure that was the coaching and training staff but I'm down with blaming other posters for problems they can't possibly control.
We'll start with JE and work our way down from there.
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We'll start with JE and work our way down from there.
Did we stop?
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How the freak did Breece Hall clear 1k all purpose yards this season behind this shittastic OLine? freak, if we had a half decent run blocking team he could be a 2k yard contender.
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How the freak did Breece Hall clear 1k yards rushing this season behind this shittastic OLine? freak, if we had a half decent run blocking team he could be a 2k yard contender.
Yards from scrimmage?
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Yards from scrimmage?
Yeah, my bad. Fixed it. Although I stand by the point that he could get 2k behind a decent line.
625 rushing and 435 receiving.
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https://x.com/michael_nania/status/1735319559622529141?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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Really hope we can get halfway competent OL/QB play next season so our elite RB and elite WR can show off their talents even more.
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Really hope we can get halfway competent OL/QB play next season so our elite RB and elite WR can show off their talents even more.
you are a fan of the NYJ. you will get excrement and you will like it. you've had a lifetime of this already. without actually knowing any of you, i can unfortunately say this about all of you.
i too will continue to hope that we will figure out OL and that we will have a legitimate QB while these guys are still here with us on their affordable rookie contracts.
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you are a fan of the NYJ. you will get excrement and you will like it. you've had a lifetime of this already. without actually knowing any of you, i can unfortunately say this about all of you.
i too will continue to hope that we will figure out OL and that we will have a legitimate QB while these guys are still here with us on their affordable rookie contracts.
Still plodding away with that schtick huh. God forbid you show up to a tailgate and you insist on calling me that to my face.
I will leave in a cop car. And you will have to suck cheese dust through a straw. Fair trade. And no I'm not freaking with you.
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https://twitter.com/fbgchase/status/1739063702345728173
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https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1739049234882576865
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https://twitter.com/fbgchase/status/1739063702345728173
I firmly believe Breece Hall has already shown HOF level traits. Whether he gets there will largely be a question of longevity, run blocking and a competent offense around him. But to seriously pair Breece with Garrett and a good to great QB we could light the world on fire.
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I firmly believe Breece Hall has already shown HOF level traits. Whether he gets there will largely be a question of longevity, run blocking and a competent offense around him. But to seriously pair Breece with Garrett and a good to great QB we could light the world on fire.
I firmly believe he is the 2nd-best running back in the NFL behind CMC.
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I firmly believe he is the 2nd-best running back in the NFL behind CMC.
I desperately want to pair him with a power back next year for $3 ish million dollars to take some pressure off him, and extend his career and allow him to play in 3rd down situations where it could be run or pass instead of giving him that many first down touches.
In an ideal world I’d like it to be A.J. Dillon but I doubt that’s a real option
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I think he's above average.
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I desperately want to pair him with a power back next year for $3 ish million dollars to take some pressure off him, and extend his career and allow him to play in 3rd down situations where it could be run or pass instead of giving him that many first down touches.
In an ideal world I’d like it to be A.J. Dillon but I doubt that’s a real option
AJ Dillon is averaging 3.5 yds per carry this season. Feels like he could be a very real option if they want him. I don't think he'll cost much.
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AJ Dillon is averaging 3.5 yds per carry this season. Feels like he could be a very real option if they want him. I don't think he'll cost much.
I was trying to brainstorm a guy like Derrick Henry, but not the actual guy due to cost and we saw what dead legs happen to a RB this year with Cook. Dillon feels like an actual possibility, but I’d rather have a great ypc for the guy we bring in, especially given our OL struggles.
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#NFL RB Receiving Yard Leaders
#Jets Breece Hall - 579
#49ers Christian McCaffrey - 564
#Bucs Rachaad White - 531
#Saints Alvin Kamara - 466
#Jaguars Travis Etienne - 446
#Broncos Samjae Perine - 432
#Bills James Cook - 429
#Chargers Austin Ekeler - 398
#Falcons Bijan Robinson - 384
#Bengals Joe Mixon - 370
#Commanders Antonio Gibson - 361
#Commanders Brian Robinson - 358
#Steelers Jaylen Warren - 353
#Titans Tyjae Spears - 344
#Lions Jahymr Gibbs - 316
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#3 receiver on the team.
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Can you imagine Breece in a real offense?
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https://x.com/pff/status/1744728232858099731?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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I’ll say it again, Breece has HOF traits and HOF talent. If he stays healthy and we give him an OL and mediocre passing game he will ascend to the most dominant RB in the league.
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https://twitter.com/UpAndAdamsShow/status/1745150521999306765?t=skQQmYFzuPYv6HOXI5_Ihw&s=19
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https://twitter.com/UpAndAdamsShow/status/1745150521999306765?t=skQQmYFzuPYv6HOXI5_Ihw&s=19
Somehow she got even more beautiful. She could be reading the phonebook for all I know or care.
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Somehow she got even more beautiful. She could be reading the phonebook for all I know or care.
My muthafuggin old derriere uncle JE. i agree with you 100%
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I am once again begging Joe Douglas to put together a semblance of an OL to let Breece maximize his potential
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I am once again begging Joe Douglas to put together a semblance of an OL to let Breece maximize his potential
You will get Brock Bowers and like it.
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I didn't realize Breece had 76 catches. Yes I was just staring at Kay the first time.
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Find this turd and destroy him. Breece must be protected at all costs.
https://twitter.com/jasrifootball/status/1759651720479527234
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I've seen discussions of having Breece as our kick returner with the changes to the kickoff being more like a scrimmage play. Interesting.
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I've seen discussions of having Breece as our kick returner with the changes to the kickoff being more like a scrimmage play. Interesting.
I'm always against any of our best position players being our return guy. Too much risk
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I'm always against any of our best position players being our return guy. Too much risk
No risk it..no biscuit.
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This shouldn't be anything a competent punt returner shouldn't be able to handle. As long as Gipson marginally improves his ability to secure the ball he should be fine; the coverage team can't move until he touches the ball.
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I'm always against any of our best position players being our return guy. Too much risk
The whole point of the kickoff change was to reduce the risk. It's not the same anymore as a bunch of dudes running 50 yards down field. How would this be much different than him getting an extra snap on offense? If Breece is better suited to gain yardage on this type of play, why put Gipson back there just because "he returns kickoffs"? Breece may not be the best guy for it, I don't know, but if it suits his skill set better..... Maybe Breece can't catch kickoffs well, then it's a moot point.
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I think it’s one of those things you might see situationally. Remember when Rex put cro back there to return a couple important kickoffs? I suspect it will be like that. And if the injury rate does prove (over time) to be significantly less than it has been, it’s more likely to happen and won’t be just a “well freak the whole seasons on the line, get in there” move and more of a “gotta get a spark to have a shot today” type thing.
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We have Gipson to return kicks, and he should be good at it.
Granted, I could see a scenario where you would want to put Breece back there. Could be late-game situations. Could be that coaches figure something out with returns, and putting someone like Breece out there could result in even more big plays than giving him the ball on offense.
On paper, it sounds weird, but I could see it making sense some ways.
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I can support the idea that if injuries reduction proves out over time, then let a more important player do it.
But this rule change was made to make kickoffs more exciting, not safer. There's still a running start before anyone makes contact.
Don't put critical guys in harm's way when it's unnecessary. Breece getting the ball from Rodgers is going to do a lot more damage than Breece getting a ball kicked off a tee.
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I think you guys are underestimating how different the kickoff is going to be. There will be little if any running start because the kickoff blockers will be 5 yards away from the other team. I'm not saying it will be the best idea to use Breece, but this will look a lot more like an open field rushing play than a returner running full force into a bunch of guys running full force towards him. Maybe Izzy would be an option.
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We have Gipson to return kicks, and he should be good at it.
Granted, I could see a scenario where you would want to put Breece back there. Could be late-game situations. Could be that coaches figure something out with returns, and putting someone like Breece out there could result in even more big plays than giving him the ball on offense.
On paper, it sounds weird, but I could see it making sense some ways.
With the new format, I would much rather have a running back return kicks than someone like Xavier Gipson.
Gipson can still return punts but there’s definitely added value in getting the ball in the hands of a more powerful runner with better vision…especially if the defense can’t move until the ball is touched.
Abanikanda is actually a really great prospect for that role.
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With the new format, I would much rather have a running back return kicks than someone like Xavier Gipson.
Gipson can still return punts but there’s definitely added value in getting the ball in the hands of a more powerful runner with better vision…especially if the defense can’t move until the ball is touched.
Abanikanda is actually a really great prospect for that role.
I think Gipson has good vision, which is part of why he's a good returner. But great point about Abanikanda - that might be a great spot for him.
It's an interesting wrinkle though that I hadn't really considered. The skilset for a kick returner in 2024 may be different than the skillset for a kick returner in 2014.
It's fun having kick returns back in the game. When the Jets were good, Westhoff gave us a major edge. Our special teams have been a little inconsistent under Boyer, but we've also had some really good seasons there. But even Boyer's job is different now to learn how to adapt to the new rules.
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This shouldn't be anything a competent punt returner shouldn't be able to handle. As long as Gipson marginally improves his ability to secure the ball he should be fine; the coverage team can't move until he touches the ball.
This