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Title: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Jumbo on April 28, 2022, 10:56:41 PM
We have 38 and 101.

Nakobe Dean
Boye Mafe
Jaquan Brisker
Travis Jones
Arnold Ebikitie
Bernard Raimann
Jalen Pitre
Breece Hall
Kenneth Walker III
Christian Harris
Roger McCreary
Perrion Winfrey
Nick Petit-Frere

Good spot for us to move down a few spots from 38, most likely.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Laxin on April 28, 2022, 11:00:11 PM
I know I'm probably alone, but I'd be pretty hyped if we got Hall
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Jumbo on April 28, 2022, 11:01:13 PM
I know I'm probably alone, but I'd be pretty hyped if we got Hall

He's my favorite option at 38. I don't trust Carter to carry the load alone and if he gets hurt we have nothing at RB. Let's help Zach as much as possible. We spent 2 1sts on defense, now get one more weapon.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 28, 2022, 11:01:25 PM
I know I'm probably alone, but I'd be pretty hyped if we got Hall

i don't know if i can feel comfortable at this point in time with the team taking the luxury of picking a running back in the second round (lol), but so long as we get a starter quality prospect i won't complain
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Libero_2 on April 28, 2022, 11:06:33 PM
He's my favorite option at 38. I don't trust Carter to carry the load alone and if he gets hurt we have nothing at RB. Let's help Zach as much as possible. We spent 2 1sts on defense, now get one more weapon.

We need so much, it’s not time (yet) to spend a high pick on a back. I really expect Pierre Strong to be one of our 4th rounders.

Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Libero_2 on April 28, 2022, 11:08:27 PM
We have 38 and 101.

Nakobe Dean
Boye Mafe
Jaquan Brisker
Travis Jones
Arnold Ebikitie
Bernard Raimann
Jalen Pitre
Breece Hall
Kenneth Walker III
Christian Harris
Roger McCreary
Perrion Winfrey
Nick Petit-Frere

Good spot for us to move down a few spots from 38, most likely.

Add Cam Jurgens to that group. If we want to replace McGovern (which we definitely do… I just don’t know that it’s THE priority that’s next) he will be high on our list
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: MBGreen on April 28, 2022, 11:08:29 PM
give me Nakobe Dean, Breece Hall, Brisker or Pitre.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: MBGreen on April 28, 2022, 11:08:53 PM
I know I'm probably alone, but I'd be pretty hyped if we got Hall

you're not alone, dude.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Jumbo on April 28, 2022, 11:09:36 PM
We need so much, it’s not time (yet) to spend a high pick on a back. I really expect Pierre Strong to be one of our 4th rounders.



If we don't grab a RB I also expect to grab Strong with one of the early 4ths.

I don't really agree that it's not time to spend a high pick on a back though. We're not spending a 1st, outside of TE I don't see much else on offense that would be worth it either. I like Carter as a complementary guy but grabbing a RB1 like Hall could do wonders for this offense imo
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Libero_2 on April 28, 2022, 11:11:10 PM
If we don't grab a RB I also expect to grab Strong with one of the early 4ths.

I don't really agree that it's not time to spend a high pick on a back though. We're not spending a 1st, outside of TE I don't see much else on offense that would be worth it either. I like Carter as a complementary guy but grabbing a RB1 like Hall could do wonders for this offense imo

Next year is the time to spend a 2 on a back after two years of selecting (hopefully) solid mid round backs. Sean Tucker feels like he could be that guy in the mid 2nd - 3rd round to put us over the top.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: reuben on April 28, 2022, 11:14:41 PM
I think Perrion Winfrey is the target. 
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Heismanberg on April 28, 2022, 11:20:53 PM
I know I'm probably alone, but I'd be pretty hyped if we got Hall

Nah, a lot of us want Hall.  He'd help the offense a lot. 
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Heismanberg on April 28, 2022, 11:21:29 PM
I think Perrion Winfrey is the target. 

Travis Jones
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: mj2sexay on April 28, 2022, 11:23:52 PM
That little safety run at the end of the 1st sucked. I really liked Cine.

Count me in the Hall or Nakobe Dean camp, wholeheartedly agree with Libero though that Nakobe probably doesn't last past the Giants.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Libero_2 on April 28, 2022, 11:33:53 PM
That little safety run at the end of the 1st sucked. I really liked Cine.

Count me in the Hall or Nakobe Dean camp, wholeheartedly agree with Libero though that Nakobe probably doesn't last past the Giants.

I was thinking about this. I think their LB will be Christian Harris.

Daboll has big ties to Alabama. Wink Martindale is coming from the Ravens, and would anyone be surprised if he wanted his version of Patrick Queen?

Well guess who Christian Harris' spidergraph is similar to? He compares favorably (in terms of Metrics) to Patrick Queen with a 76% match. I wouldn't be shocked at all, if Harris' is their guy. Then again I also have been day dreaming about Dean since the Playoff Semifinal against Cincinnati, so that may be coloring my vision a bit here. But whatever we have to do to go get that guy, please just freaking do it.

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Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: reuben on April 28, 2022, 11:40:25 PM
Nah, a lot of us want Hall.  He'd help the offense a lot. 

Bryce Huff
Bryce Hall
Breece Hall in the 2nd
Bruce Hell in the 5th
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Cane on April 29, 2022, 05:05:58 AM
Reloading my best available for the Jets (by position).

LB Dean- he’s the best football player out there, but idk if his physical profile matches what we want at LB.

LB Anderson- the opposite of Dean. Still developing and played on a small stage,  it he’s exactly what I think we want in our LBs, with length and speed.

LB Harris- I don’t think he has any really elite traits, but he can upgrade Q Williams as a run and hit guy.

LB Bonitto- this would be a rotational option for a year while we develop him as a standup, but he’s an elite passrusher who I think can be a really good standup LB with his instincts and aggressiveness.

S Pitre- Versatile with slot production, but also really smooth in space and physical coming forward. I think Joe and Rob would love him.

S Brisker- more of your standard fair safety with a high floor.

DT Jones- big powerful tackle who realistically would open up a lot of opportunities for the rest of the DL. He needs work, but the Jets staff would have seen him very closely at the combine, so they’d know how far away he is. He also whooped Cole Strange at the practices all week.

DT Winfrey- plays violent and urgent football, which I’m sure they loved seeing at the senior bowl, but a super tight athlete.

OT Petit Frere- I think he’s a first round talent at tackle. Held his own against every passrusher thrown at him.I’d definitely take him or Abe Lucas over Raimann, who has potential but is so raw at this point that I wouldn’t risk it with so much talent available. If it’s Kennard or Rhyan, they have inside/outside swing potential.

IOL Cam Jurgens- another interior mauler. I think he’s better than Cole Strange and could probably push McGovern to an immediate swing interior role.

RB Breece Hall- I could see them liking a runner like Hall a lot for this offense. He reminds me of Arian Foster with how he’s able to make cuts with real subtle movements and not lose speed. I personally would wait on RB, but he’s legit.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2022, 06:18:22 AM
Bryce Huff
Bryce Hall
Breece Hall in the 2nd
Bruce Hell in the 5th
Brace Hole
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: MBGreen on April 29, 2022, 07:28:15 AM
What do we have left...2nd, 3rd, and 2 4ths?
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2022, 07:29:38 AM
What do we have left...2nd, 3rd, and 2 4ths?
Round 2 (38, from Panthers)

Round 3 (101, special compensatory, from Saints through Eagles and Titans)

Round 4 (111, from Panthers)

Round 4 (117, from Vikings)

Round 5 (146)
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: MBGreen on April 29, 2022, 07:30:34 AM
Round 2 (38, from Panthers)

Round 3 (101, special compensatory, from Saints through Eagles and Titans)

Round 4 (111, from Panthers)

Round 4 (117, from Vikings)

Round 5 (146)
I dig it
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2022, 07:30:51 AM
The wait between 38 and 101 is gonna be a drag.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 29, 2022, 07:30:59 AM
Round 2 (38, from Panthers)

Round 3 (101, special compensatory, from Saints through Eagles and Titans)

Round 4 (111, from Panthers)

Round 4 (117, from Vikings)

Round 5 (146)

I would like for one of those to be OT insurance.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2022, 07:32:09 AM
JD said they're pretty excited by some of the remaining players, but I'm wondering if the guys they're focused on are gone by 38 they might trade down.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: bojanglesman on April 29, 2022, 07:35:57 AM
JD said they're pretty excited by some of the remaining players, but I'm wondering if the guys they're focused on are gone by 38 they might trade down.
I think he's gonna parlay that 38th pick into some extra later ones.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: MBGreen on April 29, 2022, 07:42:13 AM
The wait between 38 and 101 is gonna be a drag.

I'll go for an extended poop
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Johnny English on April 29, 2022, 07:43:14 AM
I think he's gonna parlay that 38th pick into some extra later ones.

I hope not. We don't need to fill out our roster with projects, we have lots of those. We need to add elite players at key positions and all being well we've just done exactly that. Now do it again at 38.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: MBGreen on April 29, 2022, 07:44:19 AM
i'm not ruling out another trade up from 38 if they love another player.  JD has the ammo.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: bojanglesman on April 29, 2022, 07:46:30 AM
I hope not. We don't need to fill out our roster with projects, we have lots of those. We need to add elite players at key positions and all being well we've just done exactly that. Now do it again at 38.
I agree, I'd rather have quality.  But if he has several players clustered together on the board, nothing wrong with trading back a few spots and collecting a late round stab at a player, or punter. I'd rather trade up a few spots and get a better player.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: insanity on April 29, 2022, 07:47:11 AM
The teams biggest needs right now are
Lb
Rb
O line

Dean would be great in the 2nd, but there are also alot of other options on the table at LB where if we missed out on him and were able to upgrade those 3rds or 4ths I would not be upset in the slightest.

DT and safety are both nice to haves in my eyes.

DE seems like a luxury in the 2nd
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: MBGreen on April 29, 2022, 07:49:14 AM
If we land Nakobe Dean or Breece Hall with our next pick....i'm giving Garrett Wilson another pearl necklace.

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Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: bojanglesman on April 29, 2022, 07:49:15 AM
The teams biggest needs right now are
Lb
Rb
O line

Dean would be great in the 2nd, but there are also alot of other options on the table at LB where if we missed out on him and were able to upgrade those 3rds or 4ths I would not be upset in the slightest.

DT and safety are both nice to haves in my eyes.

DE seems like a luxury in the 2nd
Our OT depth is bad.  Don't want to use the second rounder on it though.  Maybe later.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: bojanglesman on April 29, 2022, 07:50:26 AM


If we land Nakobe Dean or Breece Hall with our next pick....i'm giving Garrett Wilson a Cincinnati Bowtie

Fixed for accuracy.

Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: MBGreen on April 29, 2022, 07:53:50 AM
Our OT depth is bad.  Don't want to use the second rounder on it though.  Maybe later.

We should be able to land Lucas, Goedtke, or Strange (oh wait nvm hahahahaah)....in the 3rd.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: klaximilian on April 29, 2022, 07:57:46 AM
If JD and Saleh were committed to killing the QB, would anyone be mad if they drafted Ojabo?
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 29, 2022, 08:02:45 AM
If JD and Saleh were committed to killing the QB, would anyone be mad if they drafted Ojabo?

Nope. Stockpiling pass rushers is always a good move.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Libero_2 on April 29, 2022, 08:07:47 AM
If JD and Saleh were committed to killing the QB, would anyone be mad if they drafted Ojabo?

Only way I’d consider it was if he wasn a top 10 player on the board pre injury.and I don’t see anyway he was. That Achilles injury is going to take 2 years to be back at full strength from. Now At 101? Absolutely but he won’t be there…

Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: MBGreen on April 29, 2022, 08:11:39 AM
I'm hoping someone in front of us takes Ojabo...pushing Dean/Hall further down to us.


Pickens, McBride, Jones....i hope they all go before Dean/Hall.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: klaximilian on April 29, 2022, 08:30:26 AM
Only way I’d consider it was if he wasn a top 10 player on the board pre injury.and I don’t see anyway he was. That Achilles injury is going to take 2 years to be back at full strength from. Now At 101? Absolutely but he won’t be there…

Good, right on time for when Lawson's up for a new contract.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: MBGreen on April 29, 2022, 08:34:00 AM
We need a run on the QBs to happen at the top of the 2nd round.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: MBGreen on April 29, 2022, 09:16:56 AM
here's a solid list of who's still available

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2022-nfl-draft-nakobe-dean-malik-willis-headline-best-prospects-available-for-day-2/
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: bojanglesman on April 29, 2022, 09:19:42 AM
From a need standpoint, LB seems to be the spot for us.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: klaximilian on April 29, 2022, 09:34:27 AM
From a need standpoint, LB seems to be the spot for us.
I would agree here.

And if not, Breece or Pitre.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Heismanberg on April 29, 2022, 09:53:17 AM
Draft athletes in the second and third.

Find some developmental offensive linemen later.  Let your scouts get it done in the later rounds. 
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Heismanberg on April 29, 2022, 09:56:07 AM
DeMarvin Leal and Logan Hall are available too
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: klaximilian on April 29, 2022, 10:00:26 AM
Would anyone be shocked if they double dip at WR (to eventually replace Corey Davis) with a WR like Watson who can take the top off and play above the rim?
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Heismanberg on April 29, 2022, 10:02:14 AM
Would anyone be shocked if they double dip at WR (to eventually replace Corey Davis) with a WR like Watson who can take the top off and play above the rim?

Watson is a Justin McCareins clone.  He drops a ton of passes.  I'd be cool with him in the third round.

Pickens is the top wide receiver.  He is a true X. 

I think we have to address the run defense with a DT or LB tonight - whether it's IDL like Logan Hall or DeMarvin Leal or a LB like Nakobe Dean.

The pick we swapped in the JJ trade is in the ideal range for RB or LB. 
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: loyaljetsfan on April 29, 2022, 11:31:04 AM
do we not like Travis Jones?
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 29, 2022, 11:34:03 AM
do we not like Travis Jones?
I think Jones is absolutely an option today.

I would think LB, DT and safety are by far the 3 most likely positions at 38. Maybe Breece Hall if they want to go running back.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Heismanberg on April 29, 2022, 11:47:24 AM
do we not like Travis Jones?

I'm cool with anybody at RB, DL, LB, or S the rest of the way.
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: delavan on April 29, 2022, 03:10:22 PM
DeMarvin Leal and Logan Hall are available too
Hall's impressive at leaking through gaps and has great wheels.   Mobility alone I like him better than Leal.  Stout enough 'inside tech' in the NFL?
Title: Re: 2022 Day 2 options
Post by: Heismanberg on April 29, 2022, 03:17:24 PM
Hall's impressive at leaking through gaps and has great wheels.   Mobility alone I like him better than Leal.  Stout enough 'inside tech' in the NFL?

I think he’s a guy that can play inside and out

He’d have to come off the field for us if we went Wide 9

Not the best fit but he’s one of the best available

Leal, Jones, and Winfrey are probably our targets if we go DT