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Collegiate Football => The NFL Draft => Topic started by: Heismanberg on December 24, 2021, 06:14:38 PM
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Interior Defensive Line
Travon Walker - Georgia
Jordan Davis - Georgia
Devonte Wyatt - Georgia
Cameron Thomas - San Diego State
Travis Jones - UCONN
EDGE
Kayvon Thibodeaux - Oregon
Aidan Hutchinson - Michigan
Travon Walker - Georgia
George Karlaftis - Purdue
Jermaine Johnson - Florida State
Linebacker
Nakobe Dean - Georgia
Devin Lloyd - Utah
Quay Walker - Georgia
Channing Tindall - Georgia
Leo Chenal - Wisconsin
Cornerback
Derek Stingley Jr. - LSU
Sauce Gardner - Cincinnati
Trent McDuffie - Washington
Andrew Booth Jr. - Clemson
Kaiir Elam - Florida
Safety
Kyle Hamilton - Notre Dame
Daxton Hill - Michigan
Lewis Cine - Georgia
Jalen Pitre - Baylor
Jaquan Brisker - Penn State
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I wouldn't be surprised if we target a DT on Day 2. I know that sounds disappointing with Q and JFM on the roster, but those guys play about 60% of our defensive snaps in this system. We're relying on sub-JAG's like Nathan Shepherd for significant portions of the game.
Rankins has been alright, he's probably worth the 6.25 mil next season just because we have a ton of space. We might have done enough damage to Foley Fatukasi's reputation as an elite run-stuffer that he's now affordable, but his talents are wasted in this system. I was really hoping we'd see a lot more of Jonathan Marshall by this point.
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I’m thinking he’s going to fly up boards, but Cam Thomas is a great scheme fit and he can play inside/out.
He’s a poor man’s Hutchinson.
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George Karlaftis loves Naruto and anime. Carl Lawson's instant draft crush.
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Zacobe Dean?
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Kayvon Thibodeaux. Whatever it takes.
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Seems like there have been a lot of negative reports about DeMarvin Leal this season. On some of the mock draft sims I was doing, he would fall, but seems his tape this year isn't that good.
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Seems like there have been a lot of negative reports about DeMarvin Leal this season. On some of the mock draft sims I was doing, he would fall, but seems his tape this year isn't that good.
They moved him around a lot. He’s a very talented kid with more upside than any defensive player not named Thibodeaux.
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What do you think of Christian Harris? Thought he was a top-5 linebacker in this class.
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What do you think of Christian Harris? Thought he was a top-5 linebacker in this class.
LB6
Pappoe is more of a projection. He was hurt this season but was unreal in 2020.
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Mods plz sticky this thread to page 2
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Mods plz sticky this thread to page 2
You're a mod, jabroni.
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Daxton Hill is awesome
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Trying to convince myself that safety is an important position and I can’t do it
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Trying to convince myself that safety is an important position and I can’t do it
Just like guards, we should just continue to take defensive backs in the middle rounds
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The good news is that we hopefully have QB1, OT1, 1 edge rusher, competent young CBs, and a very good young WR, so we aren't in terrible shape at the premium positions anymore. This could all change if Wilson or Becton disappoints, or Lawson gets hurt again, or the cornerbacks look more like CB4s than CB2s next year, but for now, we have some guys at some of the more premium positions we can count on.
Our most dire needs are probably tight end, linebacker, safety, and running back, and those are all positions you can draft later if you want, or you can draft early if you think you have a superstar prospect.
We could potentially get young guys who can compete for starting jobs at several positions for us on Day 2, especially if we trade down from one of our 1st-rounders.
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Our most dire needs are probably tight end, linebacker, safety, and running back, and those are all positions you can draft later if you want, or you can draft early if you think you have a superstar prospect.
Everyone knows how I feel about running back. We need to add another body there (a power back), but I think our staff likes Carter, Coleman, and Johnson/Walter. It isn't a big need in this offense. It never has been and never will be.
If any of them get replaced, it's likely Tevin Coleman.
Linebacker is our biggest need. Get an actual linebacker, not a safety convert, and let him learn from CJ Mosley.
Replacing Maye is also important, but I think that'll be done by a committee in FA and hopefully later picks. Saleh comes from teams that spent high picks on safety though: Earl Thomas and Jimmie Ward were both first rounders. Wouldn't be surprised if we move back into the first for Daxton Hill.
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Everyone knows how I feel about running back. We need to add another body there (a power back), but I think our staff likes Carter, Coleman, and Johnson/Walter. It isn't a big need in this offense. It never has been and never will be.
If any of them get replaced, it's likely Tevin Coleman.
Linebacker is our biggest need. Get an actual linebacker, not a safety convert, and let him learn from CJ Mosley.
Replacing Maye is also important, but I think that'll be done by a committee in FA and hopefully later picks. Saleh comes from teams that spent high picks on safety though: Earl Thomas and Jimmie Ward were both first rounders. Wouldn't be surprised if we move back into the first for Daxton Hill.
I am still really curious what Saleh thinks about Kyle Hamilton. I don't think I'm ready for a safety in the top 10, but a chess piece like Hamilton could be exactly what Saleh wants. He clearly likes the oversized safeties as linebackers. Ward and Thomas are more traditional safeties.
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I don't want any players who are coming off injuries anymore. Bring a bat to interviews and just wail on the prospects; the ones that bleed are off the board.
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I don't want any players who are coming off injuries anymore. Bring a bat to interviews and just wail on the prospects; the ones that bleed are off the board.
Bryce Hall?
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Bryce Hall?
Word is he survived the batting interview. Spit out a molar and said, "freak you." Had to take him.
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I don't want any players who are coming off injuries anymore. Bring a bat to interviews and just wail on the prospects; the ones that bleed are off the board.
Could have avoided Blake Cashman.
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Could have avoided Blake Cashman.
If anyone took a bat to Blake Cashman, he'd probably explode.
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If anyone took a bat to Blake Cashman, he'd probably explode.
I would like to see someone test this theory.
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Eisen has spoken
https://twitter.com/richeisen/status/1480710655187378179?t=HXhTrJsfYX6ZtLa5ZuFQ8g&s=19
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https://twitter.com/boygreen25/status/1481020966868340737?s=21
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Dane Brugler
@dpbrugler
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Tremendous effort by DL Travon Walker #44. If he doesn’t make this play, it might be a TD and Alabama has the lead going into halftime.
275-pounders shouldn’t be able to move like #44. 1st round talent, 1st round effort.
https://twitter.com/yanchise327/status/1480905092350029830
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https://twitter.com/yanchise327/status/1480905092350029830
Take him at 4
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https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2022/01/kayvon-thibodeaux-on-why-he-chose-oregon-over-tide-do-you-know-the-stigmatism-of-alabama-education.html
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https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2022/01/kayvon-thibodeaux-on-why-he-chose-oregon-over-tide-do-you-know-the-stigmatism-of-alabama-education.html
Dude is smart enough to figure out how to clap with one hand. Heis likes!
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https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2022/01/kayvon-thibodeaux-on-why-he-chose-oregon-over-tide-do-you-know-the-stigmatism-of-alabama-education.html
“If I handed you a fishing pole, would you know how to use it?” he asked. “If I’ve never learned (how to fish) or if school has never been important to me, or a job, or a career has never been important until I was done playing football, how would I ever know how to get a career or a job? I won’t.
“You know what I sat back and thought about? I sat back and said what world do I want to be a part of? I said if I go to Alabama, I’m going to win national championships, literally. But do I want to be a guy who’s known as a national championship winner or do I want to be a guy who’s known for being apart of the greatest organization in the world?
“What people don’t realize is that football is an American sport. So, no matter how great Alabama is, you only play football in America, Canada and a couple other places. But a brand like Nike, I mean, for me it was like what brand associations do I want to be tied to? For me, I already hate the stigmatism of football players being dumb jocks. Do you know the stigmatism of Alabama education? It ain’t the West Coast. It ain’t Harvard.”
Dunno, this sounds like an Alabama-educated man to me.
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Thibodeaux is a PsyOp confirmed.
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Dunno, this sounds like an Alabama-educated man to me.
You read that and thought, "that guy is an idiot"?
He may not have explained himself eloquently, but being able to think about your future in that way, at the age of 18, is anything but Alabama dumb
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I'll be honest, I only read the headline. I received an Alabama education.
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I'll be honest, I only read the headline.
I received an Alabama education.
You must've been valedictorian : )
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/1970_Alabama_passenger_license_plate.jpg/320px-1970_Alabama_passenger_license_plate.jpg)
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Thibodeaux kind of concerns me. At this point I almost hope he goes top 3 to avoid a "worried about picking him, scared to pass on him" situation.
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Thibodeaux kind of concerns me. At this point I almost hope he goes top 3 to avoid a "worried about picking him, scared to pass on him" situation.
Why does he concern you?
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Why does he concern you?
"Thibodeaux" sounds like a cheese eating surrender monkey.
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Why does he concern you?
I'm concerned about his effort, production, and reliance on athleticism over technical skills.
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I'm concerned about his effort, production, and reliance on athleticism over technical skills.
I saw him murder Jake Haener once and I was fully in
Not sure why anyone would question his effort. Watch the UCLA game.
He’s also a more polished pass rusher than Hutchinson.
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Travon Walker is a better bull rusher than both of them
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I saw him murder Jake Haener once and I was fully in
If he was the next Jadeveon Clowney, would he be worth #4 overall?
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If he was the next Jadeveon Clowney, would he be worth #4 overall?
Why would he be the next Clowney?
Clowney had motor concerns
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Why would he be the next Clowney?
Clowney had motor concerns
Jeremiah mentioned effort issues on his podcast when going over his mock.
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Jeremiah mentioned effort issues on his podcast when going over his mock.
He called him the next Demarcus Ware like a month ago
JetsLookingForKThibs
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If he was the next Jadeveon Clowney, would he be worth #4 overall?
I think of Thibs becomes the next Clowney he will be a good player, who didn’t live up the hype.
I’m not concerned and if he’s on the clock the only thing keeping me from racing the cars in is a mind blowing trade offer.
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He called him the next Demarcus Ware like a month ago
JetsLookingForKThibs
I dunno. Maybe he heard something. Don't get me wrong, he'd still be the pretty obvious pick if he fell to 4, but if there are questions it would be nice to have answers.
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I dunno. Maybe he heard something. Don't get me wrong, he'd still be the pretty obvious pick if he fell to 4, but if there are questions it would be nice to have answers.
Theee is no perfect prospect and even an elite elite blue chip guy has some questions to answer. The further down the board you pick the most questions and less answers a guy has
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If Thibodeaux is on the clock at 4, we need to sprint up to the podium and thank the top 3 teams for passing on him.
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"Thibodeaux" sounds like a cheese eating surrender monkey.
I got this reference.
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Listening to DJ's podcast...
He speaks so highly of picks 1-3 then...when he gets to the Jets...he goes well I can give him Ekwonu to help Wilson...but I went with Thibs, but he has effort issues, he's stiff, he's hurt...won't be surprised if he drops in the draft.
Then pick 5 mocks Ekwonu to the Giants and goes on raving about him.
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Listening to DJ's podcast...
He speaks so highly of picks 1-3 then...when he gets to the Jets...he goes well I can give him Ekwonu to help Wilson...but I went with Thibs, but he has effort issues, he's stiff, he's hurt...won't be surprised if he drops in the draft.
Then pick 5 mocks Ekwonu to the Giants and goes on raving about him.
I don’t get where he sees any of this with Thibodeaux. Yeah, he got hurt but so did Kyle Hamilton.
It wasn’t a serious injury. He rolled his ankle.
Almost has me wondering if JD has his friend on a smear campaign so Thibs will fall.
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I don’t get where he sees any of this with Thibodeaux. Yeah, he got hurt but so did Kyle Hamilton.
It wasn’t a serious injury. He rolled his ankle.
Almost has me wondering if JD has his friend on a smear campaign so Thibs will fall.
Possibly. It was strange...he mocked the player, and then excrement all over him, so it felt like a smear campaign
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Possibly. It was strange...he mocked the player, and then excrement all over him, so it felt like a smear campaign
Does he say anything about Drake London’s injury?
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Burks at 4
Walker at 10
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Does he say anything about Drake London’s injury?
Nope
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Burks at 4
Walker at 10
Or even vice-versa post-combine. My current, too-early dream scenario is one of the 2 top pass rushers falling to 4, and we take best WR at 10.
Although not the most likely outcome, I wouldn't be flabbergasted if Thibs or Hutch drop to 4.
As we all remember, Darnold wasnt supposed to fall to 3, J.Adams wasnt supposed to get to 6, we were never supposed to have our choice of Becton/Wirfs at 11, etc.
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Nope
So one of the two most significant injuries in the first round is conveniently left out.
Interesting.
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Or even vice-versa post-combine. My current, too-early dream scenario is one of the 2 top pass rushers falling to 4, and we take best WR at 10.
Although not the most likely outcome, I wouldn't be flabbergasted if Thibs or Hutch drop to 4.
As we all remember, Darnold wasnt supposed to fall to 3, J.Adams wasnt supposed to get to 6, we were never supposed to have our choice of Becton/Wirfs at 11, etc.
I would take Walker over Thibs and Hutchinson.
I’d be ecstatic to land any of the three, but I feel Walker is the best fit and has the most versatility and upside.
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Burks at 4
Walker at 10
I'm down with this.
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at this point id be down with any combo at 4/10 of
thibs, hutch, walker edge
burks, london at WR
it feels doable
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I got this reference.
moi aussi
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8d/French_Frog.png)
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Logan Hall is an edge that would be a nice second round pick.
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If he was the next Jadeveon Clowney, would he be worth #4 overall?
Why would he be the next Clowney?
Clowney had motor concerns
lol
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/05/kayvon-thibodeaux-calls-himself-jadeveon-clowney-2-0/
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Interesting methodology & results
https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/tgv1ol/grading_every_2022_lb_based_only_on_data_and