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The Rest Of The Sports World => Designated Hitters Make Baseball Better => Topic started by: SixFeetDeep on October 09, 2021, 08:35:55 AM
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On Thursday, the Yankees outrighted RHP Brody Koerner off the Major League roster and onto the roster of Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.
Additionally, LHP Andrew Heaney elected free agency on Thursday in lieu of accepting an outright assignment.
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My attitude regarding Girardi was brought up in the last thread. I didn't really like Girardi because he managed way too much from his book, but his final year here, I was a fan. I thought he did a pretty good job overall.
I feel the same way about Boone. He's a "player's coach" who isn't doing anything great or terrible.
My problem and this goes back to most of his tenure, is Brian Cashman. SFD and I have briefly discussed this, but the organization is pretty bad at using stats to inform decision-making, and it's killing this team.
I don't care if Boone stays or goes. I want a new voice in the front office. Cashman has won a single title in 20 years despite a top-3, usually top-1, payroll. For all the touting of the MiLB system, we have few young players impacting the pro team, and we seemingly win most of the trades we make.
I love Stanton (the left fielder, not the DH), but his salary stands in the way of other acquisitions because Hal likes to pinch pennies. That attitude has to change too. Other teams "have closed the gap" because the Yankees refuse to use their most potent weapon--the Steinbrenner checkbook. I still want to know what factored into the decision to not put Harper in pinstripes.
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Cashman has a year left and isn’t going anywhere
If Hal doesn’t approve going over the luxury tax this offseason, Cashman will have to put together another half-measure to try and fix this team instead of being able to go all in, in a championship window with an aging core.
Not signing Harper/Machado.
Not signing Brantley or Schwarber.
Trading Ottavino to the Red Sox to free up cap space, so that we can sign Brett Gardner at a reduced rate instead of Brantley or Schwarber.
Trading Cessa for cap space. (2.05 ERA with Reds, def could have used him when our bullpen was shitting all over itself in August)
Trading prospects so that we could get Odor (not a good player) for free.
Trading better prospects in the Gallo/Rizzo deals so that the Rangers/Cubs would pay their salary.
You think Cashman wants to do any of that excrement?
Sure bring in the new guy, he’ll still have to work around these constraints until Hal prioritizes winning over his bottom line.
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DJLM, Gleyber, and Gio all hurt us due to regression at the plate. Gleyber went from 38 HRs to power sapped. Hopefully DJ and Gio struggles were due to the nagging injuries they had all year.
Hicks and Voit also killed us due to injury. Had to endure Jay Bruce/Mike Ford/Chris Gittens at 1B and Ryan Lamarre/Jonathan Davis/Andujar in CF/LF during the first half.
He’s an afterthought now, but throw Clint Frazier in there was well. I’m not sure if his performance is tied to his his concussion and the lingering vertigo/dizziness affected him, but I think it’s safe to assume with the way the Yankees handled him to end the year.
From 2019-2020:
108 Games
.267 BA / .347 OBP / .497 SLG / .844 OPS
2021:
-1.4 WAR, .163 / .317 / .317 /.633 in 66 games
He clearly wasn’t the same
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MLBTR Projected Arbitration increases:
Yankees (19)
Jameson Taillon – $4.7MM
Joey Gallo – $10.2MM
Gary Sanchez – $7.9MM
Aaron Judge – $17.1MM
Chad Green – $4.1MM
Wandy Peralta – $1.7MM
Jordan Montgomery – $4.8MM
Gio Urshela – $6.2MM
Luke Voit – $5.4MM
Gleyber Torres – $5.9MM
Clint Frazier – $2.4MM
Miguel Andujar – $1.7MM
Tyler Wade – $700K
Clay Holmes – $1.0MM
Jonathan Loaisiga – $1.7MM
Domingo German – $2.1MM
Lucas Luetge – $1.1MM
Tim Locastro – $700K
Kyle Higashioka – $1.2MM
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https://twitter.com/clintfrazier/status/1447663488017575943?s=10
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https://twitter.com/buster_espn/status/1447691373466034178?s=10
Lol K
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https://twitter.com/clintfrazier/status/1447663488017575943?s=10
His other 2 tweets around that are Kid Cudi and Mac Miller lyrics. Wish it could have worked with Clint. That said, his trade value might be so completely shot where we might as well keep him and see what happens. Amazing how he and Andujar saw their values completely tank.
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The Padres' leadership has been asking around about possible candidates such as Ron Washington, Bruce Bochy, Buck Showalter, and there is curiosity about whether Boone will be available.
Yikes
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His other 2 tweets around that are Kid Cudi and Mac Miller lyrics. Wish it could have worked with Clint. That said, his trade value might be so completely shot where we might as well keep him and see what happens. Amazing how he and Andujar saw their values completely tank.
At $2.4M, he’d have to be the 4th/5th OF
Judge
CF
Gallo
Hicks
I don’t think there’s room for him unless Hicks starts in CF
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Yikes
Boone has to leave to make room for John Gibbons
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https://twitter.com/ESPNNewYork/status/1447904645179854854?t=pMCCdlbqycCj21nj9li5VQ&s=19
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At $2.4M, he’d have to be the 4th/5th OF
Judge
CF
Gallo
Hicks
I don’t think there’s room for him unless Hicks starts in CF
My math sucks. Sign a CF and hang onto Clint. But then the problem is that your 4th and 5th OFs are v injury prone. Need to add a OF either way though.
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https://twitter.com/ESPNNewYork/status/1447904645179854854?t=pMCCdlbqycCj21nj9li5VQ&s=19
For example: The San Diego Padres fired Jayce Tingler as their manager last week, and they are expected to hire someone who has managed in the big leagues before. Some of the names their leadership is asking about include Braves third-base coach Ron Washington -- who was a finalist for the San Diego job when Tingler was hired -- and Bruce Bochy, Brad Ausmus, Buck Showalter and Jeff Banister. As the unofficial canvassing has progressed, a source reports, one staffer has asked questions about Boone's status and whether he could be considered by the Padres.
We could be much worse off lol
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Cashman has a year left and isn’t going anywhere
If Hal doesn’t approve going over the luxury tax this offseason, Cashman will have to put together another half-measure to try and fix this team instead of being able to go all in, in a championship window with an aging core.
Not signing Harper/Machado.
Not signing Brantley or Schwarber.
Trading Ottavino to the Red Sox to free up cap space, so that we can sign Brett Gardner at a reduced rate instead of Brantley or Schwarber.
Trading Cessa for cap space. (2.05 ERA with Reds, def could have used him when our bullpen was shitting all over itself in August)
Trading prospects so that we could get Odor (not a good player) for free.
Trading better prospects in the Gallo/Rizzo deals so that the Rangers/Cubs would pay their salary.
You think Cashman wants to do any of that excrement?
Sure bring in the new guy, he’ll still have to work around these constraints until Hal prioritizes winning over his bottom line.
I'm critical of Hal as well, and neither is free of blame to me, but Cashman hasn't been working under the luxtax ceiling for all of the last 21 years. Again, he's had top-3, mostly top-1 team salary for his whole tenure.
This season the Yankees were a Giancarlo Stanton ahead of the Astros ($179M vs $150M) who were $3M ahead of Boston.
Cashman spends poorly and hasn't drafted/developed well enough to play a homegrown lineup. Blaming player underperformance/regression is all well and good but when it's over and over again, you have to start wondering if the problem is actually evaluation.
What would Billy Beane do if he had the Yankees' resources--even with the under-tax constraint?
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Billy Beane has never won anything, so probably the same.
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Also Stanton costs the Yankees $22M per year, so no. Another case of poor spending by Cashman as I’m sure you have many posts on here complaining about dumping his salary
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The only bad contracts are:
Hicks: 4 years $40M
end of Stanton’s contact at age 37 which doesn’t affect us at all right now
You can second guess the Hicks contract due to health concerns but you can’t argue it was an overpay
If you think DJLM will continue to hit like he did this season and want to throw his contract on there go ahead, but $15M/year isn’t a backbreaker. And we all agreed it was a bargain after his first 2 seasons here.
Where are the other bad contracts/poor spending?
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Where are the other bad contracts/poor spending?
Gerrit Cole
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Marcus Thames is out.
EDIT: Nevin is also out.
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Marcus Thames is out.
EDIT: Nevin is also out.
Bye bitches
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Billy Beane has never won anything, so probably the same.
That's ridiculous and you know it.
Beane has made chicken salad out of a dugout full of literal excrement. His team has had no money and played in arguably the worst stadium in sports, and they've still managed to contend. You're being completely disingenuous if you say he couldn't do great things with the same resources Cashman has.
Also Stanton costs the Yankees $22M per year, so no. Another case of poor spending by Cashman as I’m sure you have many posts on here complaining about dumping his salary
Stanton's salary was $29M this year, so yeah.
Beyond that, he's disappointed at times but was far better playing LF than full-time DHing, so chalk that up to overcaution being worse.
The only bad contracts are:
Hicks: 4 years $40M
end of Stanton’s contact at age 37 which doesn’t affect us at all right now
You can second guess the Hicks contract due to health concerns but you can’t argue it was an overpay
If you think DJLM will continue to hit like he did this season and want to throw his contract on there go ahead, but $15M/year isn’t a backbreaker. And we all agreed it was a bargain after his first 2 seasons here.
Where are the other bad contracts/poor spending?
My argument isn't "poor spending", at least not in terms of paying guys who don't perform to their deals. When you're paying multiple top-end salaries, you're bound to have a bomb or two.
It's where he doesn't spend that drives me nuts. Every year, he searches for bargain bin discounts, as if he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. He let Tanaka go back to Japan and instead took fliers on Kluber and Taillon while waiting for Severino to get back. He also came in with a ridiculously right-handed lineup playing half their games in Yankee Stadium. And FFS, he loves his injury-red-flag players.
Since the Subway Series, Cashman rosters have won a single World Series with 3 different managers. At what point does he finally get some blame? I hear the "GMs like him don't just shake out of trees" but how does anyone know? Yet again, he has had a top-3 payroll every year. I can spend money like water too.
What makes Cashman special?
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Bye bitches
Thames probably deserves to lose his job, but Nevin feels like a sacrificial lamb.
I don't have strong feelings either way on them though. Nevin tried to create runs for a team that couldn't drive them in. And what was Thames supposed to do, say "Hit more home runs guys"?
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Are there split stats with like a monthly breakdown of GIDPs? Is it just me or did we have less of them in the last 2 months of the season?
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Are there split stats with like a monthly breakdown of GIDPs? Is it just me or did we have less of them in the last 2 months of the season?
Split GS PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO OBP SLG OPS GDP SH SF IBB ROE
April/March 26 981 102 192 32 0 37 97 113 226 .317 .390 .707 24 2 2 2 3
May 28 1006 100 208 27 2 25 87 100 268 .315 .352 .668 28 0 6 2 4
June 26 1014 127 223 38 3 44 121 113 243 .337 .450 .786 29 4 6 3 8
July 23 854 93 168 35 2 23 85 92 210 .327 .376 .703 19 4 5 1 6
August 29 1102 154 243 50 3 41 146 111 268 .336 .437 .773 22 0 9 5 7
Sept/Oct 30 1103 135 232 31 2 52 130 92 267 .304 .426 .729 32 0 6 1 3
I remember them talking about reduced GDPs during the big run, but after the summer, they made up for lost time.
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That's ridiculous and you know it.
Beane has made chicken salad out of a dugout full of literal excrement. His team has had no money and played in arguably the worst stadium in sports, and they've still managed to contend. You're being completely disingenuous if you say he couldn't do great things with the same resources Cashman has.
Stanton's salary was $29M this year, so yeah.
Beyond that, he's disappointed at times but was far better playing LF than full-time DHing, so chalk that up to overcaution being worse.
My argument isn't "poor spending", at least not in terms of paying guys who don't perform to their deals. When you're paying multiple top-end salaries, you're bound to have a bomb or two.
It's where he doesn't spend that drives me nuts. Every year, he searches for bargain bin discounts, as if he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. He let Tanaka go back to Japan and instead took fliers on Kluber and Taillon while waiting for Severino to get back. He also came in with a ridiculously right-handed lineup playing half their games in Yankee Stadium. And FFS, he loves his injury-red-flag players.
Since the Subway Series, Cashman rosters have won a single World Series with 3 different managers. At what point does he finally get some blame? I hear the "GMs like him don't just shake out of trees" but how does anyone know? Yet again, he has had a top-3 payroll every year. I can spend money like water too.
What makes Cashman special?
Stanton costs the Yankees $22M a year against the luxury tax, which is the only relevant number when it comes to his salary. The Marlins pay $7M a year.
Learn this, know this.
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It's where he doesn't spend that drives me nuts. Every year, he searches for bargain bin discounts, as if he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. He let Tanaka go back to Japan and instead took fliers on Kluber and Taillon while waiting for Severino to get back.
If only we had talked about this numerous times before and traced this issue directly back to Hal.
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Barring a major change in the CBA, the Yankees will have to go over the luxury tax in 2022. Only way not to is with a massive roster overhaul.
If you’ve been paying attention to what Hal and Cashman have said (and believe it), we got under the luxury tax last season and the 2018-2019 offseason (Harper/Machado) to reset the tax penalties and go all in on an offseason that makes sense. This would be the one. We’ll see.
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https://twitter.com/danalanrourke/status/1448897416518905857?s=21
Bookmarking this
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Stanton costs the Yankees $22M a year against the luxury tax, which is the only relevant number when it comes to his salary. The Marlins pay $7M a year.
Learn this, know this.
What you were responding to was me saying that the Yankees total payroll for 2021 was an entire Stanton--at $29M, which was his 2021 salary--higher than the Astros. It had nothing to do with the luxury tax. It was only meant offhandedly in the first place, but it's factually correct.
If only we had talked about this numerous times before and traced this issue directly back to Hal.
It's just you pointing the finger only at Hal. I don't buy that Cashman is only being cheap at Hal's directive. Firstly, he's tried to keep salaries lower for longer than Hal's had the directive. Beyond that, Hal's publicly said he's been willing to go over if the player made sense. So either Hal is hanging Cashman out to dry, or Brian likes trying to prove he can do it like the Rays. I think the answer is actually somewhere in the middle, but that doesn't absolve Cash.
Barring a major change in the CBA, the Yankees will have to go over the luxury tax in 2022. Only way not to is with a massive roster overhaul.
If you’ve been paying attention to what Hal and Cashman have said (and believe it), we got under the luxury tax last season and the 2018-2019 offseason (Harper/Machado) to reset the tax penalties and go all in on an offseason that makes sense. This would be the one. We’ll see.
Other than an upgrade at SS, what are they spending on? There isn't anyone who would've had the impact Harper would've. It's the same argument I make about the Jets. What are you saving money for? And it's doubly-so for the richest team in sports.
But as long as Hal keeps getting YES revenue and filling seats on Sunday afternoons, why should he care?
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What you were responding to was me saying that the Yankees total payroll for 2021 was an entire Stanton--at $29M, which was his 2021 salary--higher than the Astros. It had nothing to do with the luxury tax. It was only meant offhandedly in the first place, but it's factually correct.
It's just you pointing the finger only at Hal. I don't buy that Cashman is only being cheap at Hal's directive. Firstly, he's tried to keep salaries lower for longer than Hal's had the directive. Beyond that, Hal's publicly said he's been willing to go over if the player made sense. So either Hal is hanging Cashman out to dry, or Brian likes trying to prove he can do it like the Rays. I think the answer is actually somewhere in the middle, but that doesn't absolve Cash.
Other than an upgrade at SS, what are they spending on? There isn't anyone who would've had the impact Harper would've. It's the same argument I make about the Jets. What are you saving money for? And it's doubly-so for the richest team in sports.
But as long as Hal keeps getting YES revenue and filling seats on Sunday afternoons, why should he care?
You absolutely have to factor in what Stanton costs the Yankees if you want to make that comparison. A huge part of the reason they actually traded for him is because they gave up dogshit prospects and got a pretty good discount on his monster contract. The deal doesn’t happen without those caveats and Stanton isn’t on the Yankee payroll.
How can Cashman be cheap but also have a top payroll? It’s no mistake that they are at the top of the league but always hover around the threshold. Why would he give 2 shits about the luxury tax, it’s not his money.
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Where to spend money this offseason:
SS is a lock.
1B and CF can use upgrades.
You can always use Pitching.
2B (Siemien or Chris Taylor) if we reconfigured our infield.
SS - Correa and Seager will command monster deals. Story is a great consolation prize. I don’t love Baez but I would consider it.
CF - It’s Starling Marte or bust. He’s a perfect fit.
1B - Do whatever you can to pry Freeman away from Atlanta. When that doesn’t work, re-sign Rizzo or get Schwarber. The other all-in move would be to traded Volpe or Jasson for Matt Olson on the A’s. He’s rumored to be on the block because Oakland can’t afford to pay him and he’s a lefty that crushes lefties. Perfect fit.
SP - Throw money at Scherzer even though he said he won’t do East Coast. I would def take a flier on Justin Verlander. Robbie Ray is a FA but will prob get overpaid. Stroman, Gausman, Syndergaard, Kershaw. Any of these guys would be a great add to our rotation.
Or we can sign Kris Bryant who can apparently play any position.
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Where to spend money this offseason:
SS is a lock.
1B and CF can use upgrades.
You can always use Pitching.
2B (Siemien or Chris Taylor) if we reconfigured our infield.
SS - Correa and Seager will command monster deals. Story is a great consolation prize. I don’t love Baez but I would consider it.
CF - It’s Starling Marte or bust. He’s a perfect fit.
1B - Do whatever you can to pry Freeman away from Atlanta. When that doesn’t work, re-sign Rizzo or get Schwarber. The other all-in move would be to traded Volpe or Jasson for Matt Olson on the A’s. He’s rumored to be on the block because Oakland can’t afford to pay him and he’s a lefty that crushes lefties. Perfect fit.
SP - Throw money at Scherzer even though he said he won’t do East Coast. I would def take a flier on Justin Verlander. Robbie Ray is a FA but will prob get overpaid. Stroman, Gausman, Syndergaard, Kershaw. Any of these guys would be a great add to our rotation.
Or we can sign Kris Bryant who can apparently play any position.
They need to rectify last years mistake and go after Schwarber. He can play first, they can cycle him in left and he can obviously DH.
Regarding shortstop, I love Volpe. There's a definite argument to be had to going all in with this core and therefore using him as a trade chip for a guy like Olson, but honestly I'd be ok with signing a guy like Andrelton Simmons (even off the bad year this year offensively he's an absolute stud with the glove), as a stop gap to hold the fort for a year, and spending the big money on at least one starting pitcher, Marte and more reinforcements for the pen.
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2B (Siemien or Chris Taylor) if we reconfigured our infield.
Won't you have to find some way to get out from under Le Mahieu's deal if you do that?
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https://twitter.com/martinonyc/status/1449100720754544642?s=21
Big Fax
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Won't you have to find some way to get out from under Le Mahieu's deal if you do that?
In the above scenario, Gio or Gleyber is dealt and DJLM plays 2B or 3B. Technically it could work the way you suggested but a trade is less likely due to the contract like you said
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Cashman isn't cheap, it's not his money. The Steinbrenners would be the cheap ones. We'll see if they're willing to spend this offseason. Obviously, they spend at a high level compared to the rest of baseball. But they make more money than anyone in baseball, so they should spend the most.
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You absolutely have to factor in what Stanton costs the Yankees if you want to make that comparison. A huge part of the reason they actually traded for him is because they gave up dogshit prospects and got a pretty good discount on his monster contract. The deal doesn’t happen without those caveats and Stanton isn’t on the Yankee payroll.
How can Cashman be cheap but also have a top payroll? It’s no mistake that they are at the top of the league but always hover around the threshold. Why would he give 2 shits about the luxury tax, it’s not his money.
This is a silly argument because I'm not anti-Stanton. I liked the deal at the time, and other than his health (and at times infuriating strikeouts) he's been amazing here. It will probably suck on the derriere-end, but otherwise, Stanton was a good deal.
My only point bringing Stanton up was because his salary for the year, $29M, was almost to the dollar the amount more the Yankees' total salary was than the Astros, whose salary was a few million more than the Sox, and both those teams lasted longer. It really was just an off-handed comment.
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Where to spend money this offseason:
SS is a lock.
1B and CF can use upgrades.
You can always use Pitching.
2B (Siemien or Chris Taylor) if we reconfigured our infield.
SS - Correa and Seager will command monster deals. Story is a great consolation prize. I don’t love Baez but I would consider it.
CF - It’s Starling Marte or bust. He’s a perfect fit.
1B - Do whatever you can to pry Freeman away from Atlanta. When that doesn’t work, re-sign Rizzo or get Schwarber. The other all-in move would be to traded Volpe or Jasson for Matt Olson on the A’s. He’s rumored to be on the block because Oakland can’t afford to pay him and he’s a lefty that crushes lefties. Perfect fit.
SP - Throw money at Scherzer even though he said he won’t do East Coast. I would def take a flier on Justin Verlander. Robbie Ray is a FA but will prob get overpaid. Stroman, Gausman, Syndergaard, Kershaw. Any of these guys would be a great add to our rotation.
Or we can sign Kris Bryant who can apparently play any position.
Seager and Story are the guys I'd target. I've heard rumors they'll target Semien.
100% agree on Marte. I wanted him to be the trade target at the deadline.
1B is going to be a mess again next year. I don't want to trade what it takes for Olson, Rizzo failed here, and Freeman isn't going anywhere. Cashman should've been all-in on Schwarber in the first place, and didn't, so I'm doubtful he'll do it now.
Scherzer didn't want to come here in July. Money talks, but I don't see it. Verlander should've been a Yankee years ago. Now? Other than us throwing gobs more money at him than anyone else, he hates this organization, so why would he come here?
The other starters you mentioned don't move the needle enough for me. First, I'm sick of health reclamation projects. This is one of the least healthy teams in the sport as it is. I wanted Stroman when we could've traded for him, and Thor pre-injury, but if we're going to play with injury risks, call Masahiro and ask him to come back.
This team's biggest need after SS to me is catcher. I don't want to see Gary Sanchez play meaningful innings for this team anymore.
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Seager and Story are the guys I'd target. I've heard rumors they'll target Semien.
100% agree on Marte. I wanted him to be the trade target at the deadline.
1B is going to be a mess again next year. I don't want to trade what it takes for Olson, Rizzo failed here, and Freeman isn't going anywhere. Cashman should've been all-in on Schwarber in the first place, and didn't, so I'm doubtful he'll do it now.
Scherzer didn't want to come here in July. Money talks, but I don't see it. Verlander should've been a Yankee years ago. Now? Other than us throwing gobs more money at him than anyone else, he hates this organization, so why would he come here?
The other starters you mentioned don't move the needle enough for me. First, I'm sick of health reclamation projects. This is one of the least healthy teams in the sport as it is. I wanted Stroman when we could've traded for him, and Thor pre-injury, but if we're going to play with injury risks, call Masahiro and ask him to come back.
This team's biggest need after SS to me is catcher. I don't want to see Gary Sanchez play meaningful innings for this team anymore.
If Semien ends up leaving Tor...it'll be for the west coast
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Cashman isn't cheap, it's not his money. The Steinbrenners would be the cheap ones. We'll see if they're willing to spend this offseason. Obviously, they spend at a high level compared to the rest of baseball. But they make more money than anyone in baseball, so they should spend the most.
Yes, they should spend the most. And yet they don't. Even when Hal has said he'd go over for the right players, of which, many have come along.
Does everyone forget the bill of goods we were sold when the Machado/Harper year was coming and the Yankees were getting under the luxtax to blow through it then?
Cashman was making "smart" deals before George gave up the reins. The Boss couldn't have cared less what payroll was, all he wanted was wins. But again, Cashman has always loved his reclamation projects and relied on his interpretations of data to make deals. And he's had one title in over 20 years with that.
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Boone back
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https://twitter.com/RiverAveBlues/status/1450496260037914628
How dare anyone question the Yankees. They've had so much success recently, winning 1 World Series in 20 years.
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https://twitter.com/RiverAveBlues/status/1450496260037914628
How dare anyone question the Yankees. They've had so much success recently, winning 1 World Series in 20 years.
Oh freak. Off. Cash.
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Boone back
K
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https://twitter.com/garysanchezrbw2/status/1450900597989838858?s=21
Posting for Olney snippet
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Lots of shortstop options. Part of me wonders if the Yankees try to get a more short-term solution, like get Trevor Story on a one-year prove-it deal, or give Marcus Semien a big shorter term deal. When there are this many prominent shortstops available, someone will get left out in the cold, and I could see the Yankees going cheaper and leaving that spot open for Volpe in two years.
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Cards hired Oliver Marmol.
Fellow Yankees fans, how would you react if they had fired Boone and hired Oliver Marmol as his replacement?
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Cards hired Oliver Marmol.
Fellow Yankees fans, how would you react if they had fired Boone and hired Oliver Marmol as his replacement?
I would have been fine with it.
I don't know anything about Oliver Marmol, but I've seen enough from Boone where he is a below average manager, and I'd be willing to take my chances on a replacement. I don't think it would change a ton because I don't think managers really mean all that much, but I would have taken my chances on [generic baseball guy] over Boone.
What's the downside? We downgrade from our below average manager? That's like saying we should hold onto Todd Bowles because we might hire Adam Gase next.
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I don't know anything about Marmol either, but I don't see how any managerial hire moves the needle for this team at this point.
Boone isn't anything fantastic, nor is he nearly as bad as he gets blame for. This is Brian Cashman's team, and we heard even before the hiring process started that Cashman was going to hire a guy who was going to manage games as instructed from the analytics department.
Boone's a highly paid gopher who talks nicely to the even more handsomely paid grown children.
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freak it.
Throw the blank check at Correa and be done with it.
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https://twitter.com/yankeesguy93/status/1453805724971278336?s=10
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https://twitter.com/sis_baseball/status/1453778797216534536?s=21
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Sigh
https://twitter.com/snyyankees/status/1456257947059638285?t=F60zt9Ru-WmvpEo5A873Yg&s=19
I remember watching this in Binghamton via bootleg stream on my laptop, sitting on a dingy couch in a poorly heated house.
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Sigh
https://twitter.com/snyyankees/status/1456257947059638285?t=F60zt9Ru-WmvpEo5A873Yg&s=19
I remember watching this in Binghamton via bootleg stream on my laptop, sitting on a dingy couch in a poorly heated house.
The old Cryans in South Orange.
OG Four Loko was still legal and I pounded two of those fuckers before even hitting the bar because I knew despite being in freaking Essex County New Jersey, my fellow Setonians who were from south Jersey (north philly, and those disgusting accidents, eww) were going to show up in full force, so I needed to be in rare form.
I love that 09 team. What a great mix of personalities. The amount of walk off wins they had that year was insane.
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It was fun being in college in Philly when the Yankees beat the Phillies.
It's also the 20-year anniversary of Luis Gonzalez. I was so spoiled from the Yankees as a kid that it didn't even bother me that much. The Jets beat the Saints that night (the Kyle Turley helmet game), and I didn't think they would, so I felt I went 1-1 in games that night, and that the Yankees would just be back the following year. Ha.
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It was fun being in college in Philly when the Yankees beat the Phillies.
It's also the 20-year anniversary of Luis Gonzalez. I was so spoiled from the Yankees as a kid that it didn't even bother me that much. The Jets beat the Saints that night (the Kyle Turley helmet game), and I didn't think they would, so I felt I went 1-1 in games that night, and that the Yankees would just be back the following year. Ha.
I feel like we're around the same age. I was heartbroken by the Yankees loss in 01 but I too figured that the World Series was an annual birthright and didn't expect a 9 year title drought. I was also stoked by the Jets winning that night on the road even with Herm (as per usual) managing the game and clock like excrement.
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It's also the 20-year anniversary of Luis Gonzalez. I was so spoiled from the Yankees as a kid that it didn't even bother me that much. The Jets beat the Saints that night (the Kyle Turley helmet game), and I didn't think they would, so I felt I went 1-1 in games that night, and that the Yankees would just be back the following year. Ha.
The memory and emotion is a bit faded now, but I think I was pretty broken up about 2001. The ups and downs of that WS and all of it coming in the wake of 9/11, and to lose they way we did, it was awful. I don't think I got over it until 2009.
2009 cured a lot. If we didn't have that, imagine the multiplied saltiness of the fan base compared to its current state.
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New Britain, CT
Took shrooms during game 4. Pounded champagne and excrement on Pedro’s corpse after game 6.
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It was fun being in college in Philly when the Yankees beat the Phillies.
It's also the 20-year anniversary of Luis Gonzalez. I was so spoiled from the Yankees as a kid that it didn't even bother me that much. The Jets beat the Saints that night (the Kyle Turley helmet game), and I didn't think they would, so I felt I went 1-1 in games that night, and that the Yankees would just be back the following year. Ha.
As a kid I didn’t live and die with my team like I do now (even tho I’m very jaded by the last 10 years of Jets and Yankees). 2001 was horrible, but they were winning WS’s so much back then, my reaction was pretty much that they were due to lose. Probably would have hit me worse if I knew what was to come.
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Gardy and O'Day options declined, Velazquez lost to waivers to Los Angeles (goodbye sweet prince).
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^Joely 3M option declined
^also lost Greg Allen and Tim Locastro on waivers
Greg Allen really stings, and it feels like the Red Sox took Locastro just to troll us
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https://twitter.com/talkinyanks/status/1457792518460825600?s=21
Oh
These types of reports this early in the offseason always need to be taken with mainly grains of salt, but def worth noting
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https://twitter.com/talkinyanks/status/1457792518460825600?s=21
Oh
These types of reports this early in the offseason always need to be taken with mainly grains of salt, but def worth noting
I'm gonna boo him
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Correa is the best shortstop available, so I have no problem if they get him. I hate the Astros, not really Correa.
The only edge I give Seager over Correa is left-handedness, but Correa is a better defender.
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Correa, great player, could use his bat but no thanks
https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/content/2020-02-21-carlos-correa-finally-admits-he-used-trash-can-banging-system-to-cheat/
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That was the past. He can help in the future.
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Correa and Verlander future Yankees
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Trade one of the prized shortstop prospects as a headliner in a package for Olson, sign Correa, flex those financial muscles.
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I'm sure if he plays well I'll grow to love him
But I never wanna find out
freak Correa
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Can’t complain about the Yankees being cheap and also complain when they sign Correa to a $300M deal, chessmate
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I'm sure if he plays well I'll grow to love him
But I never wanna find out
freak Correa
You also hate Rougned Odor until you decided you love him despite him being a freaking queynte, so I'm sure you'll get over it.
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https://twitter.com/JimBowdenGM/status/1458280325436649472?t=Sr0bziCuMcGM8ZgRMhO7xw&s=19
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You also hate Rougned Odor until you decided you love him despite him being a freaking queynte, so I'm sure you'll get over it.
This
From hated queynte to beloved Rougie
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Sounds like they’re in on Matt Olson too
The #Yankees are among the clubs with interest in trading for #Athletics 1B Matt Olson, as @martinonyc indicated yesterday.
-Morosi
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The “fan with sources” rumored offer is:
Oswald Peraza, Everson Pereira, Luke Voit, Yoendrys Gomez, money
Which would be fair for Oakland (1B not a premium position and they can’t afford his salary rn or to extend him in 2 years) and a steal for the Yankees (not giving up Jasson/Volpe or Gil/Medina)
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The “fan with sources” rumored offer is:
Oswald Peraza, Everson Pereira, Luke Voit, Yoendrys Gomez, money
Which would be fair for Oakland (1B not a premium position and they can’t afford his salary rn or to extend him in 2 years) and a steal for the Yankees (not giving up Jasson/Volpe or Gil/Medina)
Yankees minor league system had a great year. Now is a good time to capitalize. But we shouldn't need to give up any of the prospects you mentioned for a 1st baseman.
The other rumor that was making the rounds yesterday was Gleyber and Voit for Olson.
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The “fan with sources” rumored offer is:
Oswald Peraza, Everson Pereira, Luke Voit, Yoendrys Gomez, money
Which would be fair for Oakland (1B not a premium position and they can’t afford his salary rn or to extend him in 2 years) and a steal for the Yankees (not giving up Jasson/Volpe or Gil/Medina)
Would happily do this
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Considering the A's stated goal is to slash payroll and they don't expect to be contenders, I'd be surprised in terms of them taking back Voit or being interested in that.
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Considering the A's stated goal is to slash payroll and they don't expect to be contenders, I'd be surprised in terms of them taking back Voit or being interested in that.
Yeah, I think Voit is projected at around $5M this year. Doesn’t quite align with full tank, but he would be pretty good value if they’re try to keep the team competitive
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Yeah, I think Voit is projected at around $5M this year. Doesn’t quite align with full tank, but he would be pretty good value if they’re try to keep the team competitive
TBH I didn't realize Voit could come so cheap. A's could always flip him for assets, though his market was pretty cool from what I understand when Cash tried moving him at the deadline. But there are some teams who position themselves as contenders that could definitely use Luke. Brewers jump off the page in that regard.
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This
From hated queynte to beloved Rougie
Hated quenyte maybe to a fan of the showboatin' Toronto Bat-flippers but asshat me thought it was great ; )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HADz1jcAnI
Odor's problem was that he didn't shake off his glove to free up his left hand as he sucker punched Bautista - he could've followed up his right with a left hook as Bautista's noggin was just hanging there for the taking.
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Rougie was fun to watch as a personality, but the only reason they signed him was because they didn't have to really pay him, and he performed to expectations (which were low).
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You also hate Rougned Odor until you decided you love him despite him being a freaking queynte, so I'm sure you'll get over it.
I literally said if he plays well I'm sure I'll love him.
I'd just prefer to never have the chance.
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Would happily do this
Same
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Rougie was fun to watch as a personality, but the only reason they signed him was because they didn't have to really pay him, and he performed to expectations (which were low).
He’s still $Free.99 next season
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Mark Feinsand: “The Yankees are in the market for a shortstop, but the belief within the industry is that they prefer Corey Seager, whose left-handed bat would be a better fit than Correa in their lineup.”
For Alio
My opinion, any Correa/Seager speculation at this point is BS. I think they’d gladly sign either of them, and with the other moves the Yankees seemingly will have to make, contract AAV and structure will be a huge factor. They could have a 1A and 1B but I doubt they’re out on either of them.
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Important:
https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1459164530320289794?s=21
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Wade trade
https://twitter.com/YankeesPR/status/1462835881199419392?t=FOD0yJZ1j7B_eCPHyxi4Ig&s=19
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I liked Wade. But if they pick up a SS and 1B, DJ will be a super-utility guy.
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Freak Correa & no thx
https://nypost.com/2021/11/25/noah-syndergaard-wants-to-strike-out-carlos-correa-for-derek-jeter-dig/
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I didn't want Semien, but it looks like he's headed to Texas. What's Cashman's play this winter? "We tried to sign someone, but the market was dry. Urshela to SS, DJLM to third, Voit at first."
Before anyone starts, my preference is Story. Next would be Seager, but I worry about injuries. Though I saw a suggestion that Gregorius might be available, which I would be all for as a stopgap till one of the MiLB guys is ready.
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Before anyone starts, my preference is Story. Next would be Seager, but I worry about injuries. Though I saw a suggestion that Gregorius might be available, which I would be all for as a stopgap till one of the MiLB guys is ready.
TBH all 3 of those guys should be considered only stopgaps at SS for us.
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I didn't want Semien, but it looks like he's headed to Texas. What's Cashman's play this winter? "We tried to sign someone, but the market was dry. Urshela to SS, DJLM to third, Voit at first."
Before anyone starts, my preference is Story. Next would be Seager, but I worry about injuries. Though I saw a suggestion that Gregorius might be available, which I would be all for as a stopgap till one of the MiLB guys is ready.
I've said it from the beginning, I really think Cash is going to try to reel in a stopgap like an Andrelton Simmons for a year until the kids are ready. I don't think we'll be aggressive on Story, Seager or Correia.
I'd have been a lot cooler with this strategy if it also resulted in a new pricy center fielder who will now be plying his trade across town, but I'm still ok with it provided they spend big to upgrade the bridge to Chappy, the rotation and first base.
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I didn't want Semien, but it looks like he's headed to Texas. What's Cashman's play this winter? "We tried to sign someone, but the market was dry. Urshela to SS, DJLM to third, Voit at first."
Before anyone starts, my preference is Story. Next would be Seager, but I worry about injuries. Though I saw a suggestion that Gregorius might be available, which I would be all for as a stopgap till one of the MiLB guys is ready.
Huh? Correa, Seager, Story, and Baez all available. Cashman’s play is not bidding against himself. Who are the suitors for the top guys right now?
Siemien is by far the worst defensively out of all of them and he’s 5 years older than Correa/Seager.
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Huh? Correa, Seager, Story, and Baez all available. Cashman’s play is not bidding against himself. Who are the suitors for the top guys right now?
Siemien is by far the worst defensively out of all of them and he’s 5 years older than Correa/Seager.
Siemien won a gold glove this year, playing a different position. His age was his only concern.
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https://twitter.com/RiverAveBlues/status/1465371811412168712
Pretty much how I'm feeling. Toronto is probably better on paper than the Yankees right now. Tampa Bay is always better, regardless of their roster. And Boston was better last season. You would think there would be a sense of urgency, but nah.
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https://twitter.com/RiverAveBlues/status/1465371811412168712
Pretty much how I'm feeling. Toronto is probably better on paper than the Yankees right now. Tampa Bay is always better, regardless of their roster. And Boston was better last season. You would think there would be a sense of urgency, but nah.
we have holes in the INF and in the bullpen still. Lots of work to do.
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we have holes in the INF and in the bullpen still. Lots of work to do.
Blue Jays were already better last season though. Just couldn't win the close games.
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Blue Jays were already better last season though. Just couldn't win the close games.
our bullpen was garbage
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Huh? Correa, Seager, Story, and Baez all available. Cashman’s play is not bidding against himself. Who are the suitors for the top guys right now?
Siemien is by far the worst defensively out of all of them and he’s 5 years older than Correa/Seager.
I'm not big on Baez and I don't want Correa.
Who's pitching next year?
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https://twitter.com/RiverAveBlues/status/1465371811412168712
Pretty much how I'm feeling. Toronto is probably better on paper than the Yankees right now. Tampa Bay is always better, regardless of their roster. And Boston was better last season. You would think there would be a sense of urgency, but nah.
Yup. Hal's trying to figure out how he can pay less in salary.
Boss George is rolling in his grave today at the headlines coming from across the Triboro.
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They tendered contracts to all eligible players. So, for now at least, El Gary, Luke, and Andujar are still Yankees.
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Ok
https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1465848764258828289?t=1C77A1SFyFWbQf1cJ0Pp7w&s=19
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Yankees playing 4D chess.
"Not signing anyone you say? Not playing next year we say!"
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I'm not big on Baez and I don't want Correa.
Who's pitching next year?
The same staff as last year. Was it an issue?
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Yup. Hal's trying to figure out how he can pay less in salary.
Boss George is rolling in his grave today at the headlines coming from across the Triboro.
…why would he want to pay more?
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Siemien won a gold glove this year, playing a different position. His age was his only concern.
*playing an easier position
He’s not bad at short, but all those guys mentioned are plus defenders. Hence why Texas signed him to play 2B and Seager to play short
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Lol I completely glossed over “I don’t want Correa”
“George is rolling over in his grave because they won’t spend money”
*Yanks sign Correa to $350M deal*
“No, not like that!”
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https://twitter.com/RiverAveBlues/status/1465371811412168712
Pretty much how I'm feeling. Toronto is probably better on paper than the Yankees right now. Tampa Bay is always better, regardless of their roster. And Boston was better last season. You would think there would be a sense of urgency, but nah.
None of these teams have improved this offseason but go off
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I was laughing for an hour straight at midnight last night while dissecting the Hunter Renfroe for Jackie Bradley Jr trade
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…why would he want to pay more?
If he has no intention to assemble a championship team then you have a point.
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If he has no intention to assemble a championship team then you have a point.
Yankees fans act like we haven’t had a top payroll our entire lives
Surely we’ve won several championships over the last 10 years since we’ve paid our players the most money
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The same staff as last year. Was it an issue?
Kluber's gone. We all hope Sevy is himself again, then we have a true second ace to pair with Cole. But what's after that? I like Monty, and German came back well, but this is a staff full of hopes and dreams. You can't keep relying on the pen to carry the club.
…why would he want to pay more?
If he has no intention to assemble a championship team then you have a point.
Exactly. SFD, he's the owner of the most valuable franchise in sports. I'm not saying to take a mortgage out on the Stadium, but what's the problem with spending? Other than hoarding cash and riding a wave of Yankees fans who haven't yet lost patience with the "we're saving for next year" lie?
Lol I completely glossed over “I don’t want Correa”
“George is rolling over in his grave because they won’t spend money”
*Yanks sign Correa to $350M deal*
“No, not like that!”
These are mutually exclusive things. Not wanting Correa has absolutely nothing to do with the cost. He's easily the best option on the SS market--as a player. But he's also a cheater and an poopchute and I don't want to root for him. If he's wearing pinstripes, I 100% will root for him. But I don't want him in pinstripes.
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None of these teams have improved this offseason but go off
Umm..you are wrong
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Umm..you are wrong
You lost the Cy Young Winner and a guy who finished 4th in the majors in HRs
Gausman is a good pitcher but last year was by far the best year of his career and Ray was still better. And you didn’t replace Siemien
So no
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Kluber's gone. We all hope Sevy is himself again, then we have a true second ace to pair with Cole. But what's after that? I like Monty, and German came back well, but this is a staff full of hopes and dreams. You can't keep relying on the pen to carry the club.
Exactly. SFD, he's the owner of the most valuable franchise in sports. I'm not saying to take a mortgage out on the Stadium, but what's the problem with spending? Other than hoarding cash and riding a wave of Yankees fans who haven't yet lost patience with the "we're saving for next year" lie?
These are mutually exclusive things. Not wanting Correa has absolutely nothing to do with the cost. He's easily the best option on the SS market--as a player. But he's also a cheater and an poopchute and I don't want to root for him. If he's wearing pinstripes, I 100% will root for him. But I don't want him in pinstripes.
-Yankees SP staff was 4th in WAR and 10th in ERA last season. The “staff full of hopes and dreams” was fine last year. Kluber pitched 80 innings.
-Please demonstrate how the Yankees don’t spend, include numbers, thanks
-George would have signed Correa.
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Odds to win WS on FDSB
Yankees: +1200
Blue Jays: +1200
Rays: +1400
Red Sox: +1800
Mack: L
And this is before they have made a single offseason move
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You lost the Cy Young Winner and a guy who finished 4th in the majors in HRs
Gausman is a good pitcher but last year was by far the best year of his career and Ray was still better. And you didn’t replace Siemien
So no
Ray had one good year, and now he's gone to a shitty team...gausman's numbers are better over the last 3 seasons and more consistent.
Garcia also improves our bullpen.
Semien is replaceable and we weren't done in FA.
So...yes.
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“just spend moar money and the team will win”
2013 MLB payrolls
1) Yankees - $228M
3) Phillies - $168M
Our roster:
(https://i.ibb.co/DzP4ywD/F770-F598-8-BF5-4472-8671-2-C3-C515-B00-DD.png) (https://ibb.co/Gnf7LCv)
(https://freeonlinedice.com/)
This was by FAR the worst Yankees team I have ever watched. The roster was disgraceful on so many levels.
I know this was a long time ago so you may not remember, but it took us years to recover from this. Because of all the giant, horrible contracts.
All years while having a top 2 payroll in MLB below:
2013: 85-77
2014: 84-78
2015: 87-75
2016: 84-78
2017: 97-71*
*We make it 1 game away from the WS. Due to new guys like Gary, Judge, Severino and Didi, not because we went out and signed a bunch of big ticket FAs.
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What’s hilarious is that if we do sign Correa, or even Story, and that’s it, we’ll have the #1 payroll in MLB
But it won’t be enough!
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Ray had one good year, and now he's gone to a shitty team...gausman's numbers are better over the last 3 seasons and more consistent.
Garcia also improves our bullpen.
Semien is replaceable and we weren't done in FA.
So...yes.
How does one simply replace 45 HRs and 6.6 WAR? There’s only 2 guys that did that last year and you already have the other one.
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^^^Name your favorite 2013 Yankee, mine is Zoilo Almonte
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How does one simply replace 45 HRs and 6.6 WAR? There’s only 2 guys that did that last year and you already have the other one.
Bichette is gonna hit 45 additional homers this year.
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Holy excrement, the moment when you realize the 2013 Yankees went out and signed Jacoby Ellsbury that offseason
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Also McCann and Beltran who didn’t finish out their contracts here :'(
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How does one simply replace 45 HRs and 6.6 WAR? There’s only 2 guys that did that last year and you already have the other one.
Like I said...we're not done yet.
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Also McCann and Beltran who didn’t finish out their contracts here :'(
Not gonna quote every post.
You're cherry-picking just to make your point. I 100% agree with you that the Yankees have often spent poorly. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't spend. Machado and Harper should be Yankees.
I never wanted McCann or Beltran. Same for Ellsbury, who had a terrible injury history--which seems to be a Cashman favorite player profile.
As for Correa, it would be a good expenditure for the player. I just don't want the person here. But if they sign him, I'll root for him.
We're not as far off from each other as you think. I would love if this team could start promoting MiLB players who perform like Judge.
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Machado AND Harper?
K
You know my stance on this, I was all in on signing one. That being said, it was probably Machado/Harper or Cole. I would take Cole, and if you factor in our pitching staff vs our offense at the time of these decisions, it’s a no brainer.
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I know I can be a bit of a douche in here sometimes, but if the Yankees don’t come away with Correa/Story/Freeman, then I agree with most of what everyone is saying.
Can we wait for that to happen though? The offseason isn’t even close to complete (and who knows when it will be)
IMO the only FA’s we’ve truly missed out on are Starling Marte and Seager (moot point if we get Correa/Story)
Would I have loved to sign Max Scherzer? Absolutely. It’s not my money. I can also see the rationale that signing a 37 year old pitcher with a million innings on his arm to $40M/year is pretty risky. We need a shortstop more anyways.
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We're not as far off from each other as you think. I would love if this team could start promoting MiLB players who perform like Judge.
Volpe and Jasson are the best prospects we’ve had in…idk a really long derriere time, the only problem is they’re not going to help the 2022 Yankees. Oswald Peraza is closer and would be viewed as the SS of the future if not for Volpe. The Yankees need a SS tomorrow though.
I really liked what I saw out of Luis Gil last year. They don’t usually give young pitchers a shot in the rotation though, hopefully Gil forces their hand in ST.
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I know I can be a bit of a douche in here sometimes, but if the Yankees don’t come away with Correa/Story/Freeman, then I agree with most of what everyone is saying.
Can we wait for that to happen though? The offseason isn’t even close to complete (and who knows when it will be)
IMO the only FA’s we’ve truly missed out on are Starling Marte and Seager (moot point if we get Correa/Story)
Would I have loved to sign Max Scherzer? Absolutely. It’s not my money. I can also see the rationale that signing a 37 year old pitcher with a million innings on his arm to $40M/year is pretty risky. We need a shortstop more anyways.
I'm hoping Baerga wasn't sniffing coke when he said the Jays were in on Freeman.
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I'm hoping Baerga wasn't sniffing coke when he said the Jays were in on Freeman.
Super longshot that he leaves ATL but anyone that isn’t trying to get him would be wrong
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I’m still trying to wrap my head around how:
Dodgers by far best team in MLB on paper
Braves lose Acuna, a top 5 player
Dodgers trade for Scherzer and Trea Turner (holy excrement)
Braves win
If you told me the Yankees could sign Scherzer and Trea Turner today, and that they wouldn’t make the World Series I would be Confucius
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I’m still trying to wrap my head around how:
Dodgers by far best team in MLB on paper
Braves lose Acuna, a top 5 player
Dodgers trade for Scherzer and Trea Turner (holy excrement)
Braves win
If you told me the Yankees could sign Scherzer and Trea Turner today, and that they wouldn’t make the World Series I would be Confucius
just goes to show that championships aren't won on paper, i guess.
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Wow, actual news
https://twitter.com/lindseyadler/status/1466802143189426178?s=21
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just goes to show that championships aren't won on paper, i guess.
💯
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Odds to win WS on FDSB
Yankees: +1200
Blue Jays: +1200
Rays: +1400
Red Sox: +1800
Mack: L
And this is before they have made a single offseason move
Dude, the Yankees are always going to have inflated odds because they are the Yankees. It's MLB Gambling 101.
Yankees were 4th in the AL East in virtually every stat. Snuck into the wild card game and got embarrassed.
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There has been a sense of complacency around the Yankees for years, and they haven't done anything to prove why they should.
The Yankees play in the toughest division in baseball, and they have more money than any team in baseball. The Rays embarrass us every year. The Red Sox and Blue Jays were both better than us last season, and I think the Blue Jays still are. Not sure what to think of the Red Sox.
I get that there is a ton of randomness when it comes to the MLB playoffs, which is one reason why the Braves can win without Acuna. But the Yankees had the run differential of an 85-86 win team last season. We were 33-27 the year before. We've won 1 division title in 9 seasons. There are no laurels for this team to rest on. We're most likely going to be in a dogfight next season just to make the wild card game again.
Yes, the Yankees spend a lot of money compared to the rest of baseball. But when there is no official salary cap, I don't really care about the Steinbrenners paying the luxury tax when they already make more than any other team in baseball.
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As a Yankees fan, you should know better than anyone that money doesn’t buy championships. There is no correlation from the amount of money you spend to how many World Series you win.
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Yankees were 4th in the AL East in virtually every stat. Snuck into the wild card game and got embarrassed.
But the Yankees had the highest payroll in the AL East, how could this have happened
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If Gerrit Cole made $60M per year he wouldn’t have gotten bombed in the wildcard game
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Machado AND Harper?
K
You know my stance on this, I was all in on signing one. That being said, it was probably Machado/Harper or Cole. I would take Cole, and if you factor in our pitching staff vs our offense at the time of these decisions, it’s a no brainer.
I know I can be a bit of a douche in here sometimes, but if the Yankees don’t come away with Correa/Story/Freeman, then I agree with most of what everyone is saying.
Can we wait for that to happen though? The offseason isn’t even close to complete (and who knows when it will be)
IMO the only FA’s we’ve truly missed out on are Starling Marte and Seager (moot point if we get Correa/Story)
Would I have loved to sign Max Scherzer? Absolutely. It’s not my money. I can also see the rationale that signing a 37 year old pitcher with a million innings on his arm to $40M/year is pretty risky. We need a shortstop more anyways.
Volpe and Jasson are the best prospects we’ve had in…idk a really long derriere time, the only problem is they’re not going to help the 2022 Yankees. Oswald Peraza is closer and would be viewed as the SS of the future if not for Volpe. The Yankees need a SS tomorrow though.
I really liked what I saw out of Luis Gil last year. They don’t usually give young pitchers a shot in the rotation though, hopefully Gil forces their hand in ST.
See? We're not actually far off each other.
I personally wanted Harper. Of course, getting Machado instead of/in addition to would've been cool as well, but Harper was the guy who should be here.
They should've gotten Marte this year. When Hicks is healthy, Hicks is legit. We all know the problem.
At SS, I'm in favor of a band-aid because the kids are coming. I mentioned this earlier, but I'd love to get Didi back as the bridge. Even not at his best, a lefty who can field SS helps a lot.
Sherzer or Verlander would've been nice-to-haves. Both come with risk.
At the end of the day, do we agree on the key point? It's not how much the Yankees spend, but how well. It goes along with the analytics conversation. Analytics aren't bad, the Yankees just aren't good at it.
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There has been a sense of complacency around the Yankees for years, and they haven't done anything to prove why they should.
Completely disagree. They're complacent because they have no reason not to be. The day Yankee Stadium was allowed to host capacity again this past summer, the game was sold out.
If fans keep coming to games, or watching YES, Hal keeps printing money. George wanted to win at all cost. Hal cares about every single cost.
Yes, the Yankees spend a lot of money compared to the rest of baseball. But when there is no official salary cap, I don't really care about the Steinbrenners paying the luxury tax when they already make more than any other team in baseball.
Exactly. But Hal's never going to pay the luxtax again--unless fans stop coming. And that's not going to happen as long as the team keeps winning enough that games after September 15 still matter.
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But Hal's never going to pay the luxtax again
Hal took over in 2007. Since then, we’ve paid the luxury tax every year except for 2. Both of the years we didn’t was to reset the escalation rate. As I said in this thread before, the idea is that you get back below the tax threshold to reset your penalties and go all in on some big signings.
Last year we didn’t pay tax. This year we should make some signings. If that doesn’t happen, I will concede that I had too much faith in the front office and ownership.
A club exceeding the Competitive Balance Tax threshold for the first time must pay a 20 percent tax on all overages. A club exceeding the threshold for a second consecutive season will see that figure rise to 30 percent, and three or more straight seasons of exceeding the threshold comes with a 50 percent luxury tax
You also get draft pick penalties which aren’t a huge deal but should be avoided if possible.
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From 2014-17, the Dodgers were tabbed with the highest luxury tax bill, paying nearly $150 million in taxes when also including 2013. L.A. reset penalties by remaining below the threshold in 2018, and stayed there for the 2019-20 seasons as well.
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(https://cdn.mlbtraderumors.com/files/2021/02/tax-rates.png)
You don’t wanna be bottom right
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Total Luxury Tax Paid All-time:
1) Yankees - $348M
2) Dodgers - $150M
3) Red Sox - $50M
5 more teams have paid it, none more than $11M total.
Glad we could put that narrative to rest.
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Yanks have deep pockets for guys who hit rockets
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Alex_Rodriguez.jpg/251px-Alex_Rodriguez.jpg)
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Hal took over in 2007. Since then, we’ve paid the luxury tax every year except for 2. Both of the years we didn’t was to reset the escalation rate. As I said in this thread before, the idea is that you get back below the tax threshold to reset your penalties and go all in on some big signings.
Last year we didn’t pay tax. This year we should make some signings. If that doesn’t happen, I will concede that I had too much faith in the front office and ownership.
You also get draft pick penalties which aren’t a huge deal but should be avoided if possible.
I get it, and I was even okay with it when they went under for the reset. On the condition that they then spend on the big-ticket items. Which they haven't done unless you count Stanton, which I don't because he wasn't a FA signing.
If Harper were a Yankee, I wouldn't have nearly the issue I have today. It's a lot like how Joe Douglas has gotten a raw deal from the fanbase, including (especially) me, because the history of the club formed a pattern that has looked familiar. The difference is, Hal and Cashman have been in charge a lot longer.
FTR, I think it's great you're a lot more patient with the Yankees. I'm an admittedly glass-half-empty personality. And I admittedly have rarely liked Cashman, so I give him a lot less leeway. I just want to win. Whether via free agents or promotions like Judge. Winning cures everything.
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https://twitter.com/espn975/status/1466209151651037196?s=21
Well this is super sketchy. Maybe he can be had for pennies on the dollar
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https://twitter.com/espn975/status/1466209151651037196?s=21
Well this is super sketchy. Maybe he can be had for pennies on the dollar
I thought Yankee fans hated Correa
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I get it, and I was even okay with it when they went under for the reset. On the condition that they then spend on the big-ticket items. Which they haven't done unless you count Stanton, which I don't because he wasn't a FA signing.
If Harper were a Yankee, I wouldn't have nearly the issue I have today. It's a lot like how Joe Douglas has gotten a raw deal from the fanbase, including (especially) me, because the history of the club formed a pattern that has looked familiar. The difference is, Hal and Cashman have been in charge a lot longer.
FTR, I think it's great you're a lot more patient with the Yankees. I'm an admittedly glass-half-empty personality. And I admittedly have rarely liked Cashman, so I give him a lot less leeway. I just want to win. Whether via free agents or promotions like Judge. Winning cures everything.
I’ve always said that Cashman has been hamstrung by Hal and the luxury tax. There’s sooo many instances we’ve discussed before that prevented him from putting the best team on the field.
The issue I have is that many Yankees fans act like we don’t spend any money at all and that we refuse to pay the tax. That’s patently untrue, we’re clearly at the top of the league in payroll and lux tax during our 10+ year WS drought. I have no problem spending more, again it’s not my money. I just don’t agree with the sentiment that we haven’t won because we don’t spend enough, at all. For some reason that’s easier for fans to point to than systemic failure by the FO to put together the right team with all of that money or the players not executing in the postseason.
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Completely disagree. They're complacent because they have no reason not to be. The day Yankee Stadium was allowed to host capacity again this past summer, the game was sold out.
If fans keep coming to games, or watching YES, Hal keeps printing money. George wanted to win at all cost. Hal cares about every single cost.
Exactly. But Hal's never going to pay the luxtax again--unless fans stop coming. And that's not going to happen as long as the team keeps winning enough that games after September 15 still matter.
Don't worry, our MLB cap guru SFDcm is here to defend the Steinbrenners at all costs.
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I’ve always said that Cashman has been hamstrung by Hal and the luxury tax. There’s sooo many instances we’ve discussed before that prevented him from putting the best team on the field.
The issue I have is that many Yankees fans act like we don’t spend any money at all and that we refuse to pay the tax. That’s patently untrue, we’re clearly at the top of the league in payroll and lux tax during our 10+ year WS drought. I have no problem spending more, again it’s not my money. I just don’t agree with the sentiment that we haven’t won because we don’t spend enough, at all. For some reason that’s easier for fans to point to than systemic failure by the FO to put together the right team with all of that money or the players not executing in the postseason.
I know we spend money, but there have been so many chances to spend money to improve this team on the margins, and they don't do it.
Rougned Odor is the perfect example. There is no reason he should be getting 361 PA, but since he was free, they played him. It wouldn't take a lot of money or prospects to upgrade that spot, but instead, they go replacement level because they can.
I'm also not perpetuating the statement that they win because they don't spend enough. Clearly, they spend enough to win, but they have not built the roster in the right way.
My problem is that the Yankees have the ability to spend their way out of some of these mistakes, and they choose not to, when they clearly have more money than anyone.
And to your last point, a lot of it has to do with just not performing in the postseason. A 1-game, 5-game or 7-game series is a tough way to prove the best overall teams when the regular season is a 162-game sample size. You need your guys to get hot at the right time, and we have not been doing that.
The funny thing is so many idiot Yankees fans like to blame Stanton, when he has been unbelievable in the playoffs for us the last two years.
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https://twitter.com/espn975/status/1466209151651037196?s=21
Well this is super sketchy. Maybe he can be had for pennies on the dollar
Very interesting. Why would they expect a team to make a significant offer without knowing if his back is good.
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2010-2012 is the perfect example. Losing to Texas in the ALCS and Detroit in the ALDS and ALCS.
2010 - Yankees payroll $206M, Rangers $55M
2011 - Yankees payroll $201M, Detroit $105M
2012 - Yankees payroll $197M, Detroit $130M
Our payroll wasn’t the issue, we had a poorly constructed pitching staff (mainly due to us paying exorbitant money to old, declining players) and our hitters didn’t execute. We should have won at least 1 or 2 more WS during this time period and didn’t, and then our window was over. Resulting in the 2013-2016 Yankees. We spent more than enough money to win, the players we chose to pay didn’t get it done.
I feel similarly about this current Yankees core except for 2017. We were a young team that arrived early and the Astros were a much better team. And we came so close to a WS. No excuses for the 2018-2021 postseasons. We should have advanced in at least a couple of those postseasons and it’s not because we didn’t have a big enough payroll.
TLDR: Sure, let’s spend more money, all of it even, but it’s not why we haven’t won.
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My problem is that the Yankees have the ability to spend their way out of some of these mistakes, and they choose not to, when they clearly have more money than anyone.
Well put.
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I know we spend money, but there have been so many chances to spend money to improve this team on the margins, and they don't do it.
Rougned Odor is the perfect example. There is no reason he should be getting 361 PA, but since he was free, they played him. It wouldn't take a lot of money or prospects to upgrade that spot, but instead, they go replacement level because they can.
I'm also not perpetuating the statement that they win because they don't spend enough. Clearly, they spend enough to win, but they have not built the roster in the right way.
My problem is that the Yankees have the ability to spend their way out of some of these mistakes, and they choose not to, when they clearly have more money than anyone.
And to your last point, a lot of it has to do with just not performing in the postseason. A 1-game, 5-game or 7-game series is a tough way to prove the best overall teams when the regular season is a 162-game sample size. You need your guys to get hot at the right time, and we have not been doing that.
The funny thing is so many idiot Yankees fans like to blame Stanton, when he has been unbelievable in the playoffs for us the last two years.
I was livid about Odor. It’s a good example but not really because last year was a reset year. Hence Ottavino trade, Gardner signing, no Brantley/Schwarber, Texas paying Gallos salary. Now, none of that matters and youre right if they don’t make a run and go over the tax for the next few years.
Cashman isn’t dumb. He knows this core only has 2-3 more years of all their best players in their prime. Right now is where you HAVE to go all in or you risk not winning excrement for the foreseeable future. If they don’t, well…
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Cashman isn’t dumb. He knows this core only has 2-3 more years of all their best players in their prime. Right now is where you HAVE to go all in or you risk not winning excrement for the foreseeable future. If they don’t, well…
I think the time to strike was when the young players were cheaper. I feel that they are already in the back-end of that window, and they've let a lot of years go by without making those big moves at the deadline to make the team better. This year's deadline was the first time they showed any urgency in terms of winning now.
Really, the biggest problem with the Yankees is that most of the young core has regressed. Sanchez has been a disappointment. Gleyber was supposed to be a superstar, but he's posted sub-.725 OPS in 2 straight years, and his defense has not been good. Severino got hurt. Andujar got hurt and seemingly disappeared. Greg Bird lol. Clint Frazier :(
The only one of those top-end prospects that has really lived up to that promise is Aaron Judge, and he's a free agent in 11 months, so we will either lose him or pay him a massive contract.
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I think the time to strike was when the young players were cheaper. I feel that they are already in the back-end of that window, and they've let a lot of years go by without making those big moves at the deadline to make the team better. This year's deadline was the first time they showed any urgency in terms of winning now.
Really, the biggest problem with the Yankees is that most of the young core has regressed. Sanchez has been a disappointment. Gleyber was supposed to be a superstar, but he's posted sub-.725 OPS in 2 straight years, and his defense has not been good. Severino got hurt. Andujar got hurt and seemingly disappeared. Greg Bird lol. Clint Frazier :(
The only one of those top-end prospects that has really lived up to that promise is Aaron Judge, and he's a free agent in 11 months, so we will either lose him or pay him a massive contract.
They were on a trajectory to win a WS since 2017 and they’ve whiffed every postseason. No one plans for regression in their young stars. Tough for me to blame anyone other than those individual players. It’s not like it would have been smart to dump Gary or Gleyber at the first signs of regression considering the success they have had in previous seasons. As you said, that’s been their biggest problem.
Machado/Harper is really the only spot I can point to and say they didn’t use their financial muscle. I also don’t see many teams handing out 10 year $300M deals every offseason though. Even if you do have the most money those contracts are a huge risk and don’t usually work out at the end of the deal. And as you said, they have Judge to think about.
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2018: Stanton - 10 years $220M (after Marlins ate salary)
2019: Harper/Machado - 13 years $330M / 10 years $300M
2020: Cole - 9 years $324M
2021: Correa - 10 years $325+M
2022: Judge - lotta money
Yeahhhh I just don’t see any way that would have happened, and if you keep doing that it’s a recipe for disaster a few years down the road.
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I don't lay fault on Cashman for not making a splash signing every winter, but there's value in the free agent market that lately he's been able to uncover, DJ aside.
Hicks was a massive mistake that was entirely preventable.
I agree with SFD that this team should be able to win maintaining their payroll when you consider what Tampa, Oakland and other organizations are able to do, but at the same time, it's the fuckin Yankees. They aren't any other organization. Part of being the gold standard is spending like it, even if it's in an effort to mitigate prior mistakes.
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2018: Stanton - 10 years $220M (after Marlins ate salary)
2019: Harper/Machado - 13 years $330M / 10 years $300M
2020: Cole - 9 years $324M
2021: Correa - 10 years $325+M
2022: Judge - lotta money
Overall, I don't think anyone here disagrees with the last few posts you've made. Maybe we're not the ground-level average Yankees fans, but no one here thinks the Yankees don't spend money.
They just spend poorly and then don't throw more money at a problem when it becomes blatant.
Yeahhhh I just don’t see any way that would have happened, and if you keep doing that it’s a recipe for disaster a few years down the road.
This is exactly where I diverge. Why is it a recipe for disaster? Only because we know Hal isn't going to keep going way over the threshold. Because he doesn't want to pay the top-tier tax. Because he prioritizes profit over performance.
If Cashman and his scouts had proven they can cultivate a Rays-esque farm system, okay, Hal might be right that they don't need to overspend. But this system has been full of poor evaluations. We've seen it in players Cash has traded who flame out quickly, we see it in the El Garys, and we even see it in the young guys he's acquired via trade like Frazier and Gleyber (though Clint was injury and Torres was better after going back to 2B).
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Overall, I don't think anyone here disagrees with the last few posts you've made. Maybe we're not the ground-level average Yankees fans, but no one here thinks the Yankees don't spend money.
They just spend poorly and then don't throw more money at a problem when it becomes blatant.
This is exactly where I diverge. Why is it a recipe for disaster? Only because we know Hal isn't going to keep going way over the threshold. Because he doesn't want to pay the top-tier tax. Because he prioritizes profit over performance.
If Cashman and his scouts had proven they can cultivate a Rays-esque farm system, okay, Hal might be right that they don't need to overspend. But this system has been full of poor evaluations. We've seen it in players Cash has traded who flame out quickly, we see it in the El Garys, and we even see it in the young guys he's acquired via trade like Frazier and Gleyber (though Clint was injury and Torres was better after going back to 2B).
10 year deals for guys approaching 30 usually freak you on the back end. No matter how much you spend you’re locked into putting those guys out on the field. The back end of the Arod and Teixeira contracts were uggggly. We were lucky CC learned how to pitch without velocity
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The key is to do what the Mets did and just feed steroids to Robinson Cano so they don't have to pay him on the back end.
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10 year deals for guys approaching 30 usually freak you on the back end. No matter how much you spend you’re locked into putting those guys out on the field. The back end of the Arod and Teixeira contracts were uggggly. We were lucky CC learned how to pitch without velocity
That's valid.
Again, I'm not really in favor of just random spending just for the sake of spending. But when you have major needs, like a SS or a power-hitting lefty on the market, it's hard to justify not spending some of that mountain of cash you're sitting on.
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Aaron Judge goes yard
https://nypost.com/2021/12/12/yankees-aaron-judge-marries-samantha-bracksieck-in-hawaii/
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The key is to do what the Mets did and just feed steroids to Robinson Cano so they don't have to pay him on the back end.
cano did that to himself, but met fans continue to hope he keeps taking steroids and getting caught for it
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https://twitter.com/dannysteinhart/status/1470858519066910723?s=21
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https://twitter.com/MyNextSeat1/status/1471500890850750473
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https://mobile.twitter.com/lindseyadler/status/1480320609083142151
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https://twitter.com/mlb/status/1480564518552014855?s=21
Way thiccer than Boone
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https://twitter.com/mlb/status/1480564518552014855?s=21
Way thiccer than Boone
Could they not have given her a job with a team that has a slightly less easily lampooned name?
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David Ortiz had 11 more career bWAR in 6 more seasons than Brett Gardner
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So the industry view has shifted; there is a growing belief that Freeman will land somewhere outside of Atlanta because of the standoff in his negotiations. The Braves offered $135 million over five years, sources say, and Freeman is looking for a six-year deal.
“I think [the Braves] will move quickly to settle on an alternative and move on to get past the conversation,” one official said.
Olney
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David Ortiz had 11 more career bWAR in 6 more seasons than Brett Gardner
Can’t wait for Brett’s HOF induction
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1501601444310433794?s=20&t=WxE4hwKBzx-72GXvznBbyQ
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1501601444310433794?s=20&t=WxE4hwKBzx-72GXvznBbyQ
Yes, Yes, No
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https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1502079446026645505?t=Ez-iDc54L1NVMqeSmBzW2Q&s=19
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Apparently the Yankees preference was to trade for Olson, but the A's price was way too high.
Too high meaning they wanted Volpe-plus. freak that.
Sign Freddie, sign a hold-the-fort option like Andrelton for a year, augment that staff and lets freaking go.
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Passan reporting Yankees dealing Gio Urshela and Gary Sanchez for Isiah Kiner Falefah, Josh Donaldson and Ben Rortvedt.
I freaking hate it.
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Passan reporting Yankees dealing Gio Urshela and Gary Sanchez for Isiah Kiner Falefah, Josh Donaldson and Ben Rortvedt.
I freaking hate it.
Lol
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Passan reporting Yankees dealing Gio Urshela and Gary Sanchez for Isiah Kiner Falefah, Josh Donaldson and Ben Rortvedt.
I freaking hate it.
It only gets better…ugh… :-l
https://nypost.com/2022/03/14/new-yankees-teammates-josh-donaldson-gerrit-cole-have-bad-blood/amp/
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Thanks, I hate it
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Makes zero sense without a Correa signing or Olson trade to back it up
Our catching depth chart is also freaking disgusting
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Jack Curry
@JackCurryYES
· 9h
Right now, the Yankee plan is to platoon Rortvedt, a LHB, and the righty-hitting Higgy at catcher. We will see if they make any other moves, but that’s the current plan.
yeeks
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https://twitter.com/jonheyman/status/1503369014252298247?s=10
Welp
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https://twitter.com/jonheyman/status/1503453214284390414?s=21
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I'm not sure how I feel about the Donaldson trade. My first reaction was to hate it since we're trading for a 36-year old 3rd baseman on a team that has a ton of guys who can play 3rd.
The Yankees must really like Kiner-Falefa and Roytvedt to do this deal. Higgy and Roytvedt seems like a really ugly duo at catcher, but maybe they can unlock some extra offense out of the new guy. Urshela was an atrocious hitter until we got him.
IKF is supposedly an elite defender, but most of his elite defense seems to come at 3rd base. So maybe we'll just play everyone at 3rd.
As long as the final lineup doesn't feature LeMahieu at 1st, I'm willing to be patient. But as much as I've defended Cashman over the years, I'm not nearly as confident in him and the FO as I used to be.
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The deal is mediocre.
It's a loss to lose Urshela, who may have slipped last year, but was one of the more reliable players on the team the past few years.
Donaldson's an poopchute. But he's our poopchute now. Cole said they spoke and everything is cool. If the ace is okay, I'm fine.
IKF is a stop-gap to get us to Volpe.
Where the hell does LaMahieu play now?
I'm fine with the catcher situation. The two positions you can deal with a lesser bat if they can defend are C and SS. Gary leaving is addition by subtraction.
Unless they can get Freeman, Rizzo has to be re-signed, right? I'm still a Voit fan, but this team needs left-handed bats.
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Gary leaving is not addition by subtraction. We might have the worst catching situation in MLB. I would have to take a look, but it’s easily bottom 5-10.
Higgy’s arm is atrocious and teams will run on us at will. Rohrshach is a walking bicep that can’t hit.
We took a big downgrade at catcher. Obviously only talking about offense but also as it relates to overall value.
The team overall is better though.
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Platooning 2 backups at catcher is pretty much never a good idea
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2021 Passed balls:
Gary: 8 in 880 innings
Higgy: 6 in 520 innings
2021 Caught Stealing:
Gary: 16% (29% career)
Higgy: 13% (17% career)
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Onto our catching savior Rortvedt
(https://i.ibb.co/Hd2CN7K/B9-EC6171-8-B46-4955-B034-190-FFBA709-D6.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/tLNgjrC/1-F5524-E9-A874-4-D62-A5-C3-92142435-ACDD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5KzmpHc)
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Platooning 2 backups at catcher is pretty much never a good idea
What's Romine up to?
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Unfortunately he suffers from LaRon Landry syndrome and is too jacked to hit
Career (almost all minor league):
2017: 4 HR, .224 avg
2018: 5 HR .264 avg
2019: 7 HR .238
2021: 8 HR, .196 (98 Ab in majors where he hit .169 and was worth -0.1 WAR despite his strong defense)
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What's Romine up to?
Hanging out with JR Murphy and Chris Stewart
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Unfortunately he suffers from LaRon Landry syndrome and is too jacked to hit
Career (almost all minor league):
2017: 4 HR, .224 avg
2018: 5 HR .264 avg
2019: 7 HR .238
2021: 8 HR, .196 (98 Ab in majors where he hit .169 and was worth -0.1 WAR despite his strong defense)
The good:
(https://i.ibb.co/D429q7L/0-E29333-E-AC56-48-A5-877-C-F80-ABD48-E6-A5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XXR7wzV)
The spin zone is that hopefully this is Cashman’s next uncut Gem in the mold of Hicks, Didi, Voit, Gio, etc. None of those guys hit a lick before they got here.
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Last post because my spam game is strong:
Higashioka career .234 OBP
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I'm going to become the joker
https://nypost.com/2022/03/15/unvaccinated-yankees-mets-wont-be-allowed-to-play-in-home-games/
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I'm going to become the joker
https://nypost.com/2022/03/15/unvaccinated-yankees-mets-wont-be-allowed-to-play-in-home-games/
Seems like the way to fix this is to not sign stupid players.
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No catcher on the MLB roster will be on this team in 5 years. Like SS, it feels like they're going with short-term band-aids to leave room for the future. Sanchez wore out his welcome him. Happy trails.
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https://twitter.com/cdgoldstein/status/1503828415102828547?s=21
Woah
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No catcher on the MLB roster will be on this team in 5 years. Like SS, it feels like they're going with short-term band-aids to leave room for the future. Sanchez wore out his welcome him. Happy trails.
They do have an extremely legitimate top C prospect in Austin Wells
His defense is his biggest weak point lol
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Seems like the way to fix this is to not sign stupid players.
The Yankees have one of the highest vaccination rates in MLB and were among the first teams to hit the 85% threshold last year
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They do have an extremely legitimate top C prospect in Austin Wells
His defense is his biggest weak point lol
Hopefully, they fix that. Yeah, I want a C who can hit. I want everyone to hit. But I want a catcher to be great behind the plate way more.
The Yankees have one of the highest vaccination rates in MLB and were among the first teams to hit the 85% threshold last year
I don't recall where I heard it, but supposedly the entire "middle of the order" is a problem. Not gonna be good if Judge and Stanton are sitting home while the Yankees are fighting for playoff spots. Be hilarious if it was actually Gio and Gary though!
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Hopefully this creates enough leverage to modify the mandate so it stops freaking up sports.
The fans and the road team are fine but the home team isn't?
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Rizzo back
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1) DJLM
2) Judge
3) Rizzo
4) Stanton
5) Donaldson
6) Gallo
7) Hicks
8) IKF
9) Black Hole
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We have a couple odd men out. Feels like Voit or Gleyber could get traded any second
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Could always play Gallo in CF and get rid of Hicks (no one is taking that contract)
Another scenario is Gleyber back to SS (extremely unlikely) and IKF as a super utility (my ideal spot for IKF)
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Ahhhhh finally we can stop complaining about the Yankees spending money since they’re paying 37 year olds Donaldson and Rizzo $37M total in 2022. Spend more money and make team more better
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Rizzo and Donaldson both under contract for 2 years, that feels like the window for this team.
I’ve been saying that for a while now, before these signings, based on the prime years of our key players in Cole, Judge, Stanton
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What's the rotation right now?
Cole, Severino, Taillon, Cortes, Montgomery?
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What's the rotation right now?
Cole, Severino, Taillon, Cortes, Montgomery?
Yup.
Domingo German and Mike King as long guys/spot starters.
Luis Gil as the first guy called up from AAA. Clarke Schmidt and Deivi Garcia options as well.
Very solid depth.
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Could always play Gallo in CF and get rid of Hicks (no one is taking that contract)
Another scenario is Gleyber back to SS (extremely unlikely) and IKF as a super utility (my ideal spot for IKF)
Lol, yesterday Boone said that Judge will play some CF and they Gleyber is currently the backup SS
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Hopefully this creates enough leverage to modify the mandate so it stops freaking up sports.
The fans and the road team are fine but the home team isn't?
This. I understand making rules to try to force people to get vaccines. But at some point, common sense has to take over. The Yankees and Mets have more leverage than the Nets.
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Yup.
Domingo German and Mike King as long guys/spot starters.
Luis Gil as the first guy called up from AAA. Clarke Schmidt and Deivi Garcia options as well.
Very solid depth.
German is starting the year on the 60 day IL.
I think I also saw they'll use off days early on to delay Taillon's first start.
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Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
· 3m
Breaking: Luke Voit traded to Padres
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https://twitter.com/pitchingninja/status/1504879193217249285?s=21
Top 20 prospect for us
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https://twitter.com/pitchingninja/status/1504879193217249285?s=21
Top 20 prospect for us
SFD, while it's got a sharp 'wiffle ball' right-to-left break, it stays up in the zone. And even though lefty batters usually uppercut, I'd think a high average, high-wrist positioned 'rod carew/tony gwynn' type hitter would feel comfortable leaning out over the plate (to cover the 'outside corner' back door) lashing doubles down the LF line....never liked 'up' in the zone unless you're dealing triple digits w/tailing movement..
jmho
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Jomboy
@Jomboy_
“We want your shortstop”
“IKF? Okay but you have to take 50 mil off our books”
“freaking easy. Done. Awesome. What are you gonna use that 50 mil for tho?”
“Use it to get our new shortstop, Correa.”
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Expected rotation
https://mobile.twitter.com/lindseyadler/status/1508904379281289225?s=20&t=VFkS8_4emNbFBSnfVyvVBA
Cole
Sevy
Monty
Jamo
Nasty Nestor
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https://twitter.com/elijfishman/status/1511370589361090563?t=UUl4yYmuwv1216rxZKeJUQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/elijfishman/status/1511370589361090563?t=UUl4yYmuwv1216rxZKeJUQ&s=19
2.04 ERA, 105 K’s in 66 innings last year in the minors
Supposedly has a dominant changeup, best in the system according to MLBP
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https://twitter.com/talkinyanks/status/1511413189879250947?s=21&t=C9xRwhcxomEYkKE2tXF2YA
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Jon Morosi
@jonmorosi
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#Yankees have offered Aaron Judge a multiyear contract with a total guarantee in excess of $200 million, source confirms reporting today from @Joelsherman1
and @JonHeyman
. @MLBNetwork
@MLB
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Jon Morosi
@jonmorosi
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Brian Cashman says Aaron Judge rejected the team’s offer of a 7-year, $213.5 million extension that would have begun in 2023. @MLBNetwork @MLB