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Title: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 21, 2021, 07:05:33 AM
Seattle expansion draft tonight....prepare your bums
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2021, 07:50:50 AM
Please take Subban or Butcher...

...they're going to take Bastian and I'm going to be pissed.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 21, 2021, 07:55:58 AM
Please take Subban or Butcher...

...they're going to take Bastian and I'm going to be pissed.

the Jets are going to galaxy-brain themselves out of their best RH dman. 
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2021, 07:59:16 AM
the Jets are going to galaxy-brain themselves out of their best RH dman.

Yeah, literally every mock and analysis I see has Demelo as a virtual lock to be taken.

Said it before and I'll say it again, this whole expansion process is freaking bullshit. I don't underestimate Ron Francis's ability to freak it up, but the options and choices at Seattle's feet should turn them into an instant contender in a mediocre division.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 21, 2021, 08:03:05 AM
Yeah, literally every mock and analysis I see has Demelo as a virtual lock to be taken.

Said it before and I'll say it again, this whole expansion process is freaking bullshit. I don't underestimate Ron Francis's ability to freak it up, but the options and choices at Seattle's feet should turn them into an instant contender in a mediocre division.

Actually....Seravelli said the Kraken are leaning towards taking Appleton (which i'm fine with).  And this tweet may have cemented that

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Early word is #SeaKraken are closing in on contracts with two UFA defensemen: Adam Larsson (EDM) and Jamie Oleksiak (DAL).

Not finalized. But barring any last minute change, the expectation is those players will be the selections from #Oilers and #GoStars
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I wish Ron Francis was our GM (he's won multiple cups with 2 different franchises).....Cheveldayoff is a freaking hack.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 21, 2021, 08:30:03 AM
Yeah, literally every mock and analysis I see has Demelo as a virtual lock to be taken.

Said it before and I'll say it again, this whole expansion process is freaking bullshit. I don't underestimate Ron Francis's ability to freak it up, but the options and choices at Seattle's feet should turn them into an instant contender in a mediocre division.

There aren't a lot of great options at center. Domi, Kerfoot, Tierney and Yanni Gourde look like their best picks and they're all good bottom six options at best. Obviously no one is going to expose a good 1C but this looks like it's going to be Seattle's biggest problem out of the gates - they might have to find a trade to get someone to anchor the top line.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 21, 2021, 08:35:30 AM
There aren't a lot of great options at center. Domi, Kerfoot, Tierney and Yanni Gourde look like their best picks and they're all good bottom six options at best. Obviously no one is going to expose a good 1C but this looks like it's going to be Seattle's biggest problem out of the gates - they might have to find a trade to get someone to anchor the top line.

We're actually considerably deep at Center.....we have 4 studs down the middle (if we resign Stastny), and Gustafsson/Perfetti in the pipeline.

We could actually trade one and not kill our depth. 

However, Chevy is a tard....so expecations are low.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 21, 2021, 08:37:52 AM
We're actually considerably deep at Center.....we have 4 studs down the middle (if we resign Stastny), and Gustafsson/Perfetti in the pipeline.

We could actually trade one and not kill our depth. 

However, Chevy is a tard....so expecations are low.

Perfetti's at least a year off still though, right? Agree it makes a lot of sense if you have a bunch of depth there, you're probably in a good position to trade with Seattle to get them to leave DeMelo alone.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 21, 2021, 08:39:46 AM
Perfetti's at least a year off still though, right? Agree it makes a lot of sense if you have a bunch of depth there, you're probably in a good position to trade with Seattle to get them to leave DeMelo alone.

Under normal circumstances, Perfetti would be a year away.....but Maurice hates playing young talent (no, i'm not kidding....ask Ville Heinola, Sami Niku and Dylan Samberg), so i would say 5 years for Perfetti.  Unless that doofus gets canned.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2021, 09:36:21 AM
Actually....Seravelli said the Kraken are leaning towards taking Appleton (which i'm fine with).  And this tweet may have cemented that
.

I wish Ron Francis was our GM (he's won multiple cups with 2 different franchises).....Cheveldayoff is a freaking hack.

That Larsson contract is an excellent piece of business, especially considering the very nature of FA usually invites overpayment.  Four years at 4 mil per for a rock solid second pairing defensive defenseman is a nice job out of the gate. I'm surprised, considering yesterday everyone was saying he was going to re-up with Edmonton for a similar term and price.

Re: Francis, I know he was a legendary player, but he didn't win those cups as an executive. His time with Carolina was mediocre.

It'd be an absolute boon if the Jets can avoid losing DeMelo.

I'd actually love to see the Devils take a run at Stasny, but I have a feeling he's destined to remain in the Peg.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 21, 2021, 09:45:40 AM
That Larsson contract is an excellent piece of business, especially considering the very nature of FA usually invites overpayment.  Four years at 4 mil per for a rock solid second pairing defensive defenseman is a nice job out of the gate. I'm surprised, considering yesterday everyone was saying he was going to re-up with Edmonton for a similar term and price.

Re: Francis, I know he was a legendary player, but he didn't win those cups as an executive. His time with Carolina was mediocre.

It'd be an absolute boon if the Jets can avoid losing DeMelo.

I'd actually love to see the Devils take a run at Stasny, but I have a feeling he's destined to remain in the Peg.

who cares if he won them as an executive or a player....he knows how to win.  The Jets FO is laden with losers who know how to lose.

Stastny is going to be 36 in December...i'm not sure how much gas is left in the tank.  Smart player though.

Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2021, 09:55:41 AM
Stastny is going to be 36 in December...i'm not sure how much gas is left in the tank.  Smart player though.

Exactly. Nico and Hughes need to learn from a savvy veteran who's been there and done that. There's no veteran grit/leadership in the locker room.

I like McLeod a lot but he'd be better served on the 4th line with his bestie Bastian (if Bastian doesn't get taken tonight that is).

Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 21, 2021, 10:08:07 AM
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BREAKING: Sources tell @DFOHockey
 the #SeaKraken have NOT selected Carey Price from Montreal in the Expansion Draft.

The #Habs keep their goaltending duo in-tact, but are likely to lose defenseman Cale Fleury.


all that hoopla for nothing
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2021, 10:14:35 AM

all that hoopla for nothing

I love Price, but given the presence of Kappo Kahkonen in the draft and their agreement in principle with Chris Dreidger, they're better off allocating their resources elsewhere as opposed to taking on his deal with the uncertainty of hip surgery looming.

Still, solid gamble by Bergevin that paid off.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 21, 2021, 10:17:12 AM
Another surprise

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Sources say #SeaKraken also passed on another high-profile, big money player: Vladimir Tarasenko.

Subject to change but sounds like the selection from #stlblues will be Vince Dunn.

@DFOHockey
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 21, 2021, 10:37:12 AM
Seravalli is dunking on all the hockey insiders.....he's breaking all the news.


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Sounds like the three goaltenders selected by #SeaKraken will be Chris Driedger (FLA), Vitek Vanecek (WSH) and Joey Daccord (OTT).

@DFOHockey
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 21, 2021, 10:45:46 AM
this is a solid pick for the Kraken....most likely their 1st captain.

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BREAKING - I can confirm that the Seattle Kraken have chosen Calgary Flames captain Mark Giordano as their pick at the Expansion Draft, to be announced this evening.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2021, 10:54:45 AM
this is a solid pick for the Kraken....most likely their 1st captain.

That's a great selection. I believe he only has 1 yr left on his deal anyway. The exact type of guy you want to either hold onto as the team gets ready for a playoff run, or if this season doesn't work out you can flip at the deadline.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 21, 2021, 10:58:12 AM
holy excrement...we're keeping DeMelo. The Kraken selected Mason Appleton, who's very replaceable.


Chevy gamblin' like he's Kenny fuckin' Rogers.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 21, 2021, 11:12:54 AM
here you go MJ:


Chris Johnston
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Hearing that #SeaKraken will select Nathan Bastian from New Jersey.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2021, 11:14:39 AM
here you go MJ:


Chris Johnston
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Hearing that #SeaKraken will select Nathan Bastian from New Jersey.

son of a fuckin bitch.

It's a solid move. Bastian is an effective, defensive minded forward for the bottom six with upside and a very manageable contract.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 21, 2021, 12:01:42 PM
That's a great selection. I believe he only has 1 yr left on his deal anyway. The exact type of guy you want to either hold onto as the team gets ready for a playoff run, or if this season doesn't work out you can flip at the deadline.
Except apparently they will flip him to the Rangers.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 21, 2021, 01:20:22 PM
the only kraken pick that hasn't been revealed is the Detroit one. lol


Well done. Nobody is going to watch the expansion draft tonight. Now i can watch the Jays game :)
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2021, 01:33:20 PM
the only kraken pick that hasn't been revealed is the Detroit one. lol


Well done. Nobody is going to watch the expansion draft tonight. Now i can watch the Jays game :)

Frank Servelli's gonna get a stern talking to from the NHL higher ups LOL.

Also, not for nothing, but what the freak is Ron Francis doing with some of these selections. I have to believe there's been side deals galore that have yet to be revealed.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 21, 2021, 05:08:57 PM
Frank Servelli's gonna get a stern talking to from the NHL higher ups LOL.

Also, not for nothing, but what the freak is Ron Francis doing with some of these selections. I have to believe there's been side deals galore that have yet to be revealed.
Pretty sure he's still pitching for work since leaving TSN, he's done quite a good job of it today.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2021, 09:17:58 PM
Pretty sure he's still pitching for work since leaving TSN, he's done quite a good job of it today.

I'm reasonably confident the execs within the NHL and ESPN want to murder him.

Conflicting reports in terms of whether or not Seattle has side deals that have yet to be announced.

If there actually are none, Francis reallly fucked this up unless the plan is to outwardly not spend and tank.

I'm not saying they needed to take Carey Price or anything, but you take JOHN freaking QUENNEVILLE over Calvin De Haan? LOLWUT.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 21, 2021, 09:31:23 PM
I'm reasonably confident the execs within the NHL and ESPN want to murder him.

Conflicting reports in terms of whether or not Seattle has side deals that have yet to be announced.

If there actually are none, Francis reallly fucked this up unless the plan is to outwardly not spend and tank.

I'm not saying they needed to take Carey Price or anything, but you take JOHN freaking QUENNEVILLE over Calvin De Haan? LOLWUT.

Quite a few headscratchers. I have a higher opinion of Tierney than many, but no one really expected them to take Daccord who has 9 NHL games under his belt. There were loads of good options between the pipes. Even Dadonov would have been a star on this Seattle roster.

There have to be some other deals in the offing, they're really not spending much money yet.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 22, 2021, 01:57:35 PM
Gostisbehere dumped to Arizona.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 22, 2021, 02:03:28 PM
Larry Brooks says Lou is talking to Suter and Parise about bringing them to the Isles. I'm never quite sure whether to believe Brooks though, he's such a troll. I doubt Lou just let it slip to him over a beer.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 22, 2021, 02:21:48 PM
Larry Brooks says Lou is talking to Suter and Parise about bringing them to the Isles. I'm never quite sure whether to believe Brooks though, he's such a troll. I doubt Lou just let it slip to him over a beer.

Lou loves going back to the well to bring in players that he's had from yesteryear, and they were in on Zach at the deadline. Considering Minny wound up buying Zach out, even at half retention idk why they didn't agree to move him along.

Suter's still a bonafide top 4 d man and is Zach's bestie, but he's been very vocal in the past about not wanting to play on the east coast.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 22, 2021, 02:35:10 PM
Lou loves going back to the well to bring in players that he's had from yesteryear, and they were in on Zach at the deadline. Considering Minny wound up buying Zach out, even at half retention idk why they didn't agree to move him along.

Suter's still a bonafide top 4 d man and is Zach's bestie, but he's been very vocal in the past about not wanting to play on the east coast.

Marc Methot had a good take on his podcast the other day about Suter, which was basically that if you're in win absolutely right now mode and you need depth then Suter's a good shout, but he's too slow for the modern NHL and he's going to keep getting worse.

https://youtu.be/TS0FkyK-2eM?t=928
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Badger on July 22, 2021, 03:01:36 PM


Gostisbehere

Come on now
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 22, 2021, 03:08:51 PM

Come on now

He's from Florida and his dad was a professional jai alai player.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Badger on July 22, 2021, 08:51:01 PM
He's from Florida and his dad was a professional jai alai player.
Made-up backstory for his made-up name
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 23, 2021, 01:07:20 PM
Philly just got trade raped for one of the worst dmen in the NHL.

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Sounds like Rasmus Ristolainen is going to Philadelphia in a package deal that includes the Sabres getting the 13th pick in the draft.

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Philly

-Risto

Buffalo

-2021 1st rd pick, 2023 2nd rd pick, and Robert Hagg
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 23, 2021, 05:51:58 PM
Columbus trades Seth Jones to the Blackhawks
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 27, 2021, 10:34:52 AM
Vegas just gifted the Blackhawks Marc-Andre Fleury.....complete salary dump.  Nothing going back to Vegas in the trade lol.


I hate Vegas
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 27, 2021, 10:41:21 PM
Vegas just gifted the Blackhawks Marc-Andre Fleury.....complete salary dump.  Nothing going back to Vegas in the trade lol.


I hate Vegas

Vegas needed to get out of either his or Lehrners deal and Stan Bowman (given the Tyler Johnson trade today) is apparently very content to alleviate the cap issues of the leagues upper echelon.

I just don't understand why Bowman didn't ask for the opportunity to call MAF before the deal was announced in order to gauge his interest and see if he was going to play, but I guess its easy not to care if the upside is a free Vezina winner and the downside is 7 mil in cap space.

Now let us all come together in the hopes that Dougie Hamilton is jersey bound by noon tomorrow. I'm normally not in favor of spending yuge on term and money in FA but 28 year old right handed d-men that are giants with huge slapshots are hard to come by and usually age well.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 28, 2021, 07:05:41 AM
Our D was hot trash last year.  Chevy traded for Brendan Dillion and Nate Schmidt yesterday.....optimism is rising.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 28, 2021, 09:09:12 AM
Happy Free Agency Day
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 28, 2021, 09:09:30 AM
Pierre LeBrun
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All signs point to Freddy Andersen signing with the Carolina Hurricanes when the market opens.
@TSNHockey
 @TheAthletic
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 28, 2021, 11:47:32 AM
Our D was hot trash last year.  Chevy traded for Brendan Dillion and Nate Schmidt yesterday.....optimism is rising.

I really like both deals for the Jets but especially think Dillon at the price of a 2 and a 3 is a steal.

This isn't the NFL, 2nd round picks get flipped at the deadline with absolute regularity for hot garbage.

Anyway, Devils and Dougie are hammering out the last details. Come feel the warm embrace of Newark Mr. Hamilton
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 28, 2021, 11:51:50 AM
I really like both deals for the Jets but especially think Dillon at the price of a 2 and a 3 is a steal.

This isn't the NFL, 2nd round picks get flipped at the deadline with absolute regularity for hot garbage.

Anyway, Devils and Dougie are hammering out the last details. Come feel the warm embrace of Newark Mr. Hamilton


oh man...The Canucks gave Tucker Poolman a 4yr 10 mil dollar deal.  Jim Benning might be the biggest retard in the NHL.


Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 28, 2021, 11:54:49 AM
Pierre LeBrun
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Jonathan Bernier's two-year deal with the Devils worth $4.125M AAV
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 28, 2021, 12:00:48 PM
Jim Benning might be the biggest retard in the NHL.

Quoted for truth to the point I hope he runs that team into the freaking ground and Quinn forces his way to baby bros.

Pierre LeBrun
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Jonathan Bernier's two-year deal with the Devils worth $4.125M AAV

Too much money, but at least the term is limited. Not egregious, but more than I would've paid.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 28, 2021, 12:03:17 PM
Quoted for truth to the point I hope he runs that team into the freaking ground and Quinn forces his way to baby bros.

 

Quinn will want out soon.....Benning brought in Tyler Myers (last year), Poolman, and re-signed Hamonic....oh and he's praying OEL returns to form.

That team's blueline actually got worse, and they spent an additional 23.5 mil to do it. lol!!
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 28, 2021, 02:42:12 PM
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BREAKING: #TBLightning sign Brayden Point to eight year extension ($9.5 million AAV).



Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 28, 2021, 02:46:51 PM
oh man...The Canucks gave Tucker Poolman a 4yr 10 mil dollar deal.  Jim Benning might be the biggest retard in the NHL.


Ken Holland: "Hold my beer while I sign Cody Ceci to a 4 year $13M contract."
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 28, 2021, 02:48:29 PM
Ken Holland: "Hold my beer while I sign Cody Ceci to a 4 year $13M contract."

Trading Ethan Bear was next-level dumbfuckery
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 28, 2021, 02:55:43 PM
Ken Holland: "Hold my beer while I sign Cody Ceci to a 4 year $13M contract."

LOL I was literally going to post on that. Good catch.

At least with Hyman I can rationalize the desperation. The AAV isn't terrible and they DESPERATELY need bodies on the wing to play with their stud centers before both of them decide to freak off because they're tired of playing with absolute trash.

That Ceci deal is poo poo!

Trading Ethan Bear was next-level dumbfuckery

That too
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 28, 2021, 04:40:13 PM
We Haz Dougie.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 28, 2021, 04:43:55 PM
We Haz Dougie.

You do, but boy are you paying for it. In a flat cap for the next 3 years, that's a big derriere deal. He's a good player but I'm not convinced that he's worth almost the same money as Cale Makar or Seth Jones.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 28, 2021, 04:56:30 PM
You do, but boy are you paying for it. In a flat cap for the next 3 years, that's a big derriere deal. He's a good player but I'm not convinced that he's worth almost the same money as Cale Makar or Seth Jones.

It's a gigantic deal, I definitely agree with you and don't think he's worth as much as Makar. I think Jones vs Dougie is debatable. 

The Devils even with signing Bernier today were about 11 million under the floor thanks to dumping Butcher on Buffalo. They have two pending RFA's likely to count against the cap upon signing in Sherangovich and Kuokkenen. Assume even pessimistically those guys cost 3 mil per. Dougie's deal brings them right above the floor. You have to spend it even in a flat cap era, so you may as well go after a guy who's unique in that right handed defensemen with his kind of qb skills and shot are hard to find. He's decent in his own zone which is good enough for me.

At some point, even if it involves having to overpay, the team has to combat the very real perception post Zach (which in hindsight was not a great deal for Minnesota) and Kovy leaving that its a barren pooper where absolutely no one wants to play.

Analytics in hockey is like speaking a foreign language to me, but it seems as though Dougie is the type of player who ages well. So whatever that's worth. At this point its become fairly obvious in the NHL if you frontload a contract you can get rebuilding teams to take a bad deal on the back end if you give up a 2nd for the cap hit with minimal cash outlay.

As for the rest of the off-season go get a 3rd line center (would love to see a veteran like Cezekas be the signing). While I think Tarasenko is a very worthy reclamation project, I think it might be likely St Louis hangs onto him now that they lost Hoffman, and further I think Fitz and Co is going to give Nolan Foote every opportunity to play on the line with Hughes and Sherangovich.

EDIT: I just saw the Devils retained a million off Butcher's deal so not as much savings as I originally thought, but still better to get him off the roster than carry a 7th defenseman for the money he was making.

He had a great start, and I think as a bottom pairing guy that can qb your second power play line he has a role, but he's honestly one of the worst skaters I've ever seen and that's compounding the fact that he's undersized.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 29, 2021, 09:21:36 AM
https://twitter.com/DrewMacFarlane/status/1267657558350856192
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 29, 2021, 09:41:44 AM
https://twitter.com/DrewMacFarlane/status/1267657558350856192


Here's what we know re: TDA; 

There are plenty of conservatives (not necessarily outspoken, but they exist) in hockey. TJ Oshie, Ian Cole, Seth Jones, Jack Eichel, Robin Lerner, etc, so the argument that he's being specifically picked on solely because he's a conservative and not through actions of his own doing doesn't hold water.

I do think there's an absolute double standard in the way he's covered from people like Puck Daddy who think he should never get another chance in the league and absurdly graded Carolina signing a former 50 point defenseman in the prime of his career as a D-. But I digress. TDA is a fuckin poopchute hothead, and that's the larger issue, he's not a victim, especially given his outspoken social media presence and inability to act in a mature way when faced with adversity, like being a healthy scratch. He put it out there.   

We also know that the rumored shenanigans with K'Andre Miller never happened, that as much as DeAngelo was acting like an poopchute in chirping at his own goalie after letting in a game winning goal (which to be sure is absurd) that he was the one who was sucker punched, and that the slurs he was suspended for in juniors weren't of a racial variety (we don't know what was said, but my guess would be he dropped either the certain f-bomb that's also a british idiom for cigarette, or called another white teammate a derogatory term on the basis of nationality. either way, not good). 

We also know he's had multiple teammates, inclusive of a very vocal Mark Stahl come out and dismiss any notion that TDA is a racist. So I find the tweet to be unfair in that it's obviously accusing the guy of being a racist when there's minimal indication of that being the case.

He's going to have to repair his reputation in terms of not being a excrement disturber in emotionally volatile situations and handling rejection in a mature manner.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 29, 2021, 10:05:23 AM

Here's what we know re: TDA; 

There are plenty of conservatives (not necessarily outspoken, but they exist) in hockey. TJ Oshie, Ian Cole, Seth Jones, Jack Eichel, Robin Lerner, etc, so the argument that he's being specifically picked on solely because he's a conservative and not through actions of his own doing doesn't hold water.

I do think there's an absolute double standard in the way he's covered from people like Puck Daddy who think he should never get another chance in the league and absurdly graded Carolina signing a former 50 point defenseman in the prime of his career as a D-. But I digress. TDA is a fuckin poopchute hothead, and that's the larger issue, he's not a victim, especially given his outspoken social media presence and inability to act in a mature way when faced with adversity, like being a healthy scratch. He put it out there.   

We also know that the rumored shenanigans with K'Andre Miller never happened, that as much as DeAngelo was acting like an poopchute in chirping at his own goalie after letting in a game winning goal (which to be sure is absurd) that he was the one who was sucker punched, and that the slurs he was suspended for in juniors weren't of a racial variety (we don't know what was said, but my guess would be he dropped either the certain f-bomb that's also a british idiom for cigarette, or called another white teammate a derogatory term on the basis of nationality. either way, not good). 

We also know he's had multiple teammates, inclusive of a very vocal Mark Stahl come out and dismiss any notion that TDA is a racist. So I find the tweet to be unfair in that it's obviously accusing the guy of being a racist when there's minimal indication of that being the case.

He's going to have to repair his reputation in terms of not being a excrement disturber in emotionally volatile situations and handling rejection in a mature manner.


You've spent more time thinking about it than I have, or intend to. I don't think he's a good enough player to make it worth putting up with all the baggage that comes with him though.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 30, 2021, 07:56:47 AM
You've spent more time thinking about it than I have, or intend to. I don't think he's a good enough player to make it worth putting up with all the baggage that comes with him though.

Agree to disagree, I think guys that can put up 50 points from the blue line before they hit the age of 25 are worthy reclamation projects provided of course what they did wasn't so unforgiveable.

He'll be on a very short leash and I have no doubt Rod the Bod isn't going to take any excrement.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on August 05, 2021, 11:17:48 AM
Devils signing Tatar. They're going to be good this season.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on August 05, 2021, 11:33:22 AM
Devils signing Tatar. They're going to be good this season.

The pro is that he's a proven goal scorer who will fit like a glove on a line with Hughes and Sherangovich.

The con is that this team is small as freak up front.

I sincerely hope Fitz isn't done, they need a third line center (Tyler Bozak? I'd love Eric Stahl but he seems the type that'll sign on the cheap for a contender) and a bottom six winger with some size in the worst way.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on September 03, 2021, 10:17:19 AM
NHL's to participate in the 22 Olympics YESSSSSSSS. Love. That.

Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on October 07, 2021, 10:02:47 AM
Devils signing Tatar. They're going to be good this season.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/guJZ989xdXI1AoY0PwBEEgjDaiJLSSg84VEAu33dWamAfXQYa14GmAJgNJWZaK1aY7qIlW_Q8FyI2VvY8b6Ngad6thDvO2o8H9vAIYiwdwOFex6kI4CqIsxf)
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on October 14, 2021, 07:27:54 AM
Blake Wheeler is so washed.  The guy skates like a stroke victim now. 


And he counts 8.25 million against our cap (and is the highest paid player on the jets roster). FML.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on October 14, 2021, 12:03:54 PM
Sens finally got Brady signed just in time for him to miss the first few games of the season. Why this couldn't have been finalised 10 days ago freak only knows. Oh wait, that's right. freaking Melnyk.

Anyway, 7 years $57M.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on October 14, 2021, 05:26:22 PM
Blake Wheeler is so washed.  The guy skates like a stroke victim now. 


And he counts 8.25 million against our cap (and is the highest paid player on the jets roster). FML.

Ouch

https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/winnipeg-jets/blake-wheeler-4821/
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on October 19, 2021, 06:23:01 PM
Mike Bossy diagnosed with Lung cancer...ugh.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on October 21, 2021, 11:40:21 AM
Jack Hughes has a separated shoulder. freak.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 26, 2021, 06:58:17 AM
https://twitter.com/jomboy_/status/1452845478115168263?s=21

@Heismanberg
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on October 26, 2021, 02:07:49 PM
excrement is about to get ugly in Chicago. Bowman out after directly throwing his old bosses under the bus.

Considering one of those old bosses is now the head coach in Florida, you wonder what the Panthers do with Quenneville.

Cheveldayoff was in that front office as well, so I wonder if Winnipeg finds themselves in the market for a new GM depending of course on the specifics of who knew what.

Incomprehensible that a team decided not to fire the freaking guy when they found out about the initial allegations against Aldrich.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on October 26, 2021, 02:10:37 PM
excrement is about to get ugly in Chicago. Bowman out after directly throwing his old bosses under the bus.

Considering one of those old bosses is now the head coach in Florida, you wonder what the Panthers do with Quenneville.

Cheveldayoff was in that front office as well, so I wonder if Winnipeg finds themselves in the market for a new GM depending of course on the specifics of who knew what.

Incomprehensible that a team decided not to fire the freaking guy when they found out about the initial allegations against Aldrich.

Looks like Bergevin is off the hook though.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on October 26, 2021, 02:20:23 PM
excrement is about to get ugly in Chicago. Bowman out after directly throwing his old bosses under the bus.

Considering one of those old bosses is now the head coach in Florida, you wonder what the Panthers do with Quenneville.

Cheveldayoff was in that front office as well, so I wonder if Winnipeg finds themselves in the market for a new GM depending of course on the specifics of who knew what.

Incomprehensible that a team decided not to fire the freaking guy when they found out about the initial allegations against Aldrich.

All i want for christmas this year is for Chevy and Maurice to be kicked out of Winnipeg permanently.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on October 26, 2021, 02:25:53 PM
Looks like Bergevin is off the hook though.

Indeed, not a word about him in the statement released by the NHL.

All i want for christmas this year is for Chevy and Maurice to be kicked out of Winnipeg permanently.

You might get it.

At the time this excrement broke, he totally denied having any knowledge of any allegations or misconduct. The reporting so far makes it seem as though everyone knew.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on October 26, 2021, 02:38:27 PM
All i want for christmas this year is for Chevy and Maurice to be kicked out of Winnipeg permanently.

You'll get a lump of coal and like it.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on October 26, 2021, 02:47:12 PM
You'll get a lump of coal and like it.

"My dad got a lump of coal, in his brain LOL"

How the old place didn't archive the whole GH saga is beyond me.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on October 26, 2021, 02:49:01 PM
"My dad got a lump of coal, in his brain LOL"

How the old place didn't archive the whole GH saga is beyond me.

Puck and GH are fishing buddies now
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on October 26, 2021, 02:50:37 PM
Puck and GH are fishing buddies now
Nah I saltwater fish, he fishes in toilets.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on October 26, 2021, 02:52:56 PM
"My dad got a lump of coal, in his brain LOL"

How the old place didn't archive the whole GH saga is beyond me.

How sad do you have to be to feign cancer?
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on October 28, 2021, 12:11:42 AM
Heads should roll - unconscionable

https://chicago.suntimes.com/platform/amp/blackhawks/2021/10/27/22749753/kyle-beach-blackhawks-sexual-assault-victim-name-bradley-aldrich-joel-quenneville-donald-fehr
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on October 28, 2021, 07:03:41 AM
#FireChevy
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on October 28, 2021, 11:43:36 AM
How sad do you have to be to feign cancer?

freaking absolutely pathetic.

Heads should roll - unconscionable

https://chicago.suntimes.com/platform/amp/blackhawks/2021/10/27/22749753/kyle-beach-blackhawks-sexual-assault-victim-name-bradley-aldrich-joel-quenneville-donald-fehr

That interview with Beach was tough to sit through. He was let down at every turn.

Idk how the freak Quenneville coached last night with all this heat on him. If it's true that he knew about the allegations as they happened then he's essentially been caught in a terrible lie and should absolutely pay for it by losing his position. This isn't a leaked email, this is blatantly ignoring allegations of sexual assault.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on October 28, 2021, 01:13:53 PM
freaking absolutely pathetic.

That interview with Beach was tough to sit through. He was let down at every turn.

Idk how the freak Quenneville coached last night with all this heat on him. If it's true that he knew about the allegations as they happened then he's essentially been caught in a terrible lie and should absolutely pay for it by losing his position. This isn't a leaked email, this is blatantly ignoring allegations of sexual assault.
^ +1. 

And Beach at the time had his future & career held up as potentially being in jeopardy which sucked all the more because he should've felt free enough to have slugged Quenneville in the mouth.  And beyond Quenneville, Jonathan Toews is a craven weasel what with his after-the-fact "wished we'd have done more at the time" self-serving damage control. 
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on October 28, 2021, 02:20:28 PM
freaking absolutely pathetic.

That interview with Beach was tough to sit through. He was let down at every turn.

Idk how the freak Quenneville coached last night with all this heat on him. If it's true that he knew about the allegations as they happened then he's essentially been caught in a terrible lie and should absolutely pay for it by losing his position. This isn't a leaked email, this is blatantly ignoring allegations of sexual assault.
^ +1. 

And Beach at the time had his future & career held up as potentially being in jeopardy which sucked all the more because he should've felt free enough to have slugged Quenneville in the mouth.  And beyond Quenneville, Jonathan Toews is a craven weasel what with his after-the-fact "wished we'd have done more at the time" self-serving damage control. 

I agree 100% with you both.

Can you imagine what Beach went through? I can't but to think that everyone that knew about it in the organization or NHL made it look like he was lying or worse that the relationship with the video-pedo-rapist was consensual. No doubt that dude's career was derailed in some measure by all of this. Too bad ALdrich can't be summarily executed and JQ and Bowman beat to an inch of their lives because of their enabling they let that guy resign, he found another job coaching kids and is being sued for sodomozing kids, it could have easily been stopped ....................its disgusting and disgraceful.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on October 28, 2021, 03:34:31 PM
I agree 100% with you both.

Can you imagine what Beach went through? I can't but to think that everyone that knew about it in the organization or NHL made it look like he was lying or worse that the relationship with the video-pedo-rapist was consensual. No doubt that dude's career was derailed in some measure by all of this. Too bad ALdrich can't be summarily executed and JQ and Bowman beat to an inch of their lives because of their enabling they let that guy resign, he found another job coaching kids and is being sued for sodomozing kids, it could have easily been stopped ....................its disgusting and disgraceful.

I found Toews comments to be incredibly self-serving and in his function as Captain, he should've done something about it. Ultimately though, the responsibility resides with the coaching and executive staff. Torts freaking BLISTERED everyone involved today, and he's 100% right.

Agreed with you completely Puck, I don't know how anyone could think this didn't have a drastic if not fatal effect on his prospects as a player.

This is a total black mark on that organization, and frankly I think its an incredible indictment on the NHL that the penalty is merely a fine as opposed to something more punitive. Cover up sexual assault and it'll only cost you 2 mil, but sign Kovy to a contract that "circumvents the cap" (which was bullshit to begin with) and only then do we take away a pick. WHAT THE freak.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on October 28, 2021, 04:06:11 PM
I found Toews comments to be incredibly self-serving and in his function as Captain, he should've done something about it. Ultimately though, the responsibility resides with the coaching and executive staff. Torts freaking BLISTERED everyone involved today, and he's 100% right.

Agreed with you completely Puck, I don't know how anyone could think this didn't have a drastic if not fatal effect on his prospects as a player.

This is a total black mark on that organization, and frankly I think its an incredible indictment on the NHL that the penalty is merely a fine as opposed to something more punitive. Cover up sexual assault and it'll only cost you 2 mil, but sign Kovy to a contract that "circumvents the cap" (which was bullshit to begin with) and only then do we take away a pick. WHAT THE freak.

It's crazy man, I can understand getting pissed about the contract as a competitive advantage, which is an an integrity thing when you boil it down. That said, look what team used contracts to win the cup, the Hawks- Hossa,Keith etc. NOthing different than the Kovy deal just a year or two earlier.

So the competitive advantage which is an integrity thing, is more important than honesty, true integrity, protecting kids/players, stopping serial abusers etc.etc that's not taking account the criminal and civil nature of what they did. The NHL in many respects is stuck in 1960, including the dept of player "safety". As much as I love hockey the NHL really is a joke of an organization maybe more so than Goodell's NFL, and that's saying a lot.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on October 29, 2021, 09:13:48 AM
Chevy faces the music today
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on October 29, 2021, 09:14:21 AM
Quennville allowed to resign I guess the other enablers still sprinkled around the league should check their bums because the reckoning where they are allowed to resign and get a job a couple of years later after making millions upon millions is coming.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on October 29, 2021, 09:21:22 AM
Toews and Kane are probably too far removed from official leadership positions to face any kind of sanctions, but hopefully this will be front and centre of any HHoF considerations. I don't know if Sharp, Keith or Seabrook would even get serious considerations but it probably fucks them as well if they do. Any player who was on that team and a vet at the time should be hanging their head in shame.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on October 29, 2021, 09:31:48 AM
Toews and Kane are probably too far removed from official leadership positions to face any kind of sanctions, but hopefully this will be front and centre of any HHoF considerations. I don't know if Sharp, Keith or Seabrook would even get serious considerations but it probably fucks them as well if they do. Any player who was on that team and a vet at the time should be hanging their head in shame.
They should but unfortunately other than possibly being a witness in a trial that no way in hell will happen (it will be settled I should think) they will get off scot-free. Maybe their reputations will get hit a little, Kane was already known as a punk but Toews was looked at as Messier leadership level. Sharp, the pretty boy, slept with Keith's wife but that hasn't hampered him, Keith or Seabrook nada.....
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on October 29, 2021, 09:32:28 AM
Chevy faces the music today

He will be gone but big deal he will get reinstated and pollute a different organization.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on October 29, 2021, 09:35:15 AM
He will be gone but big deal he will get reinstated and pollute a different organization.

He's been our only GM.  He's been here for 11 years, and the team only made the WCF once.  He needs to go, and i've been craving a blood sacrifice for this team since Claude Noel was fired.

I just wish Maurice was involved, so he could get Quennville'd too.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on October 29, 2021, 10:15:56 AM
They should but unfortunately other than possibly being a witness in a trial that no way in hell will happen (it will be settled I should think) they will get off scot-free. Maybe their reputations will get hit a little, Kane was already known as a punk but Toews was looked at as Messier leadership level. Sharp, the pretty boy, slept with Keith's wife but that hasn't hampered him, Keith or Seabrook nada.....

Kane was the one who had the thing with the taxi driver as well, right?
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on October 29, 2021, 10:27:23 AM
Andrew Ladd came out yesterday and said he had no idea.

Dave Bolland on the other hand deleted his entire social media presence.

I have a feeling Chevy is on borrowed time.
 
In terms of Kane, Toews, Keith and I'll throw Hossa in there because I think they're the most notable NHL legends from the dynasty...everyone's certainly allowed to speculate as to what they knew and hold it against them, especially Toews given his place as captain and the absolute self-serving horseshit of a statement he put out two days ago. But I don't think it's going to affect whether they get into the Hall or not.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on October 29, 2021, 10:41:23 AM
Andrew Ladd came out yesterday and said he had no idea.

Dave Bolland on the other hand deleted his entire social media presence.

I have a feeling Chevy is on borrowed time.
 
In terms of Kane, Toews, Keith and I'll throw Hossa in there because I think they're the most notable NHL legends from the dynasty...everyone's certainly allowed to speculate as to what they knew and hold it against them, especially Toews given his place as captain and the absolute self-serving horseshit of a statement he put out two days ago. But I don't think it's going to affect whether they get into the Hall or not.

Hossa's already there, so there's not much they can do about that. I do think that the committee will take it into consideration though - now that everything is public they have to know that announcing Toews, Keith or Kane as a nominee will be met with an immediate response of "after what he did to Kyle Beach?" in the media, and none of those guys are beloved enough in the wider hockey world to make the backlash worthwhile. We'll see how long it lasts, but reading online it seems even most Chicago fans are pretty disgusted with the team culture that we now know those guys contributed to.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on October 29, 2021, 10:46:11 AM
Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
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Morgan Rielly signs an eight-year extension with the #leafs carrying a $7.5M AAV.



i thought the Leafs had zero cap space
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on October 29, 2021, 11:02:14 AM
wow...Bettman let Chevy off the hook.


I'm speechless.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on October 29, 2021, 11:17:37 AM
Kane was the one who had the thing with the taxi driver as well, right?

Yes, over pocket change and I mean literal pocket change.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on October 29, 2021, 11:18:28 AM
Hossa's already there, so there's not much they can do about that. I do think that the committee will take it into consideration though - now that everything is public they have to know that announcing Toews, Keith or Kane as a nominee will be met with an immediate response of "after what he did to Kyle Beach?" in the media, and none of those guys are beloved enough in the wider hockey world to make the backlash worthwhile. We'll see how long it lasts, but reading online it seems even most Chicago fans are pretty disgusted with the team culture that we now know those guys contributed to.

I think Toews is beloved or looked at as some great leader.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on October 29, 2021, 11:19:03 AM
wow...Bettman let Chevy off the hook.


I'm speechless.

I would laugh at your Jets but it's not really funny.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on October 29, 2021, 11:34:19 AM
I would laugh at your Jets but it's not really funny.

we've had 1 single firing since the Jets came back.  #TeflonJets
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on October 29, 2021, 01:00:15 PM
One thing confusing me with all this - it might be in the report but if it is I haven't seen it.

We know that Beach reported the assault to management, and that management said they do something about it and then didn't.

We know that a lot of the players were calling him gay, fag etc, and making specific reference to him and Aldrich.

How did the players find out? Who told them? I'm guessing it wasn't Beach, and I'm very sure it wouldn't have been Aldrich. Someone let it slip to someone on the team.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on October 29, 2021, 01:27:22 PM
One thing confusing me with all this - it might be in the report but if it is I haven't seen it.

We know that Beach reported the assault to management, and that management said they do something about it and then didn't.

We know that a lot of the players were calling him gay, fag etc, and making specific reference to him and Aldrich.

How did the players find out? Who told them? I'm guessing it wasn't Beach, and I'm very sure it wouldn't have been Aldrich. Someone let it slip to someone on the team.
When Aldrich was allowed to resign in 2010 he said it was a consensual relationship and I think it came out as such. His word against Beach and of course people ran with what Aldrich said because he wasn't exactly fired and certainly he wasn't prosecuted. However, to answer your question, I don't know definitively or not, but I am 100% positive people in the Blackhawk organization leaked the events to everyone. Being that the professional player community is relatively small and tight knit it isn't a stretch to figure out how it became public knowledge amongst the players.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on November 02, 2021, 07:08:30 PM
IS, if you're still lurking around, sad news from our Devils today as Earl the Usher passed away.

I know he became arena famous as Dancin Earl, but honestly I'm more appreciative of when the Devils used to allow smoking on the balcony and he'd man the door. SUPER nice guy. Glad they acknowledged it as opposed to just let it go ignored.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on November 04, 2021, 06:55:56 AM
Sabers trade Eichel and a 2023 3rd round pick to the Golden Knights for Peyton Krebs, Alex Tuch, 2022 1st round pick, 2023 3rd round pick
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on November 04, 2021, 10:00:24 AM
Sabers trade Eichel and a 2023 3rd round pick to the Golden Knights for Peyton Krebs, Alex Tuch, 2022 1st round pick, 2023 3rd round pick

I know the Golden Knights have cap issues, but I'm surprised the Sabres took on Tuch's deal with no retention. He's only 25, fantastic power forward but they don't know that he's going to be able to come back off this injury and discover his previous form.

Krebs is a stud.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on November 04, 2021, 10:11:15 AM
I know the Golden Knights have cap issues, but I'm surprised the Sabres took on Tuch's deal with no retention. He's only 25, fantastic power forward but they don't know that he's going to be able to come back off this injury and discover his previous form.

Krebs is a stud.

I think the problem the Sabres had is that there's not all that much market for Eichel. Between the cap hit and the uncertainty over the injury and the surgery that he still hasn't had, it's hard to justify giving up a lot for a player who probably isn't going to be available until the end of the season at the earliest. Teams with the cap space can't afford to give up the players and picks for someone who doesn't bring an immediate impact, and teams who can afford to let a couple of good players and picks go mostly don't have a lot of cap space available.

I don't like the deal for either team, I think Buffalo have badly mishandled Eichel and I think Vegas are giving up commodities for an unknown return at an unknown point. Somehow both teams got weaker today, both are gambling on this deal making them better a way down the line.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on November 04, 2021, 10:17:38 AM
Tuch is out until at least January I thought. So it's a swap for damaged goods.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on November 11, 2021, 10:07:13 PM
I'm really trying to contain my excitement in the early going, but with the exception of the injury to Jack, this is the best start Devils fans could've hoped for. Mercer looks like an absolute stud.

For all the excrement Dougie got when he hit free agency about how he's not great in his own zone, I haven't seen that at all. He looks very competent. That also might be a function of being paired with Ryan Graves who's been all over the ice.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on November 28, 2021, 03:44:41 PM
Habs fire GM Marc Bergevin.   6 months removed from being in the cup finals
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 02, 2021, 09:03:28 AM
#FireMaurice
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on December 02, 2021, 09:47:20 AM
#FireMaurice
Remember this (when San Jose Shark players whined about having to play in Winnipeg)?   Maurice repping for the Peg:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BdvYbMchcrn/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 02, 2021, 09:48:40 AM
Remember this (when San Jose Shark players whined about having to play in Winnipeg)?   Maurice repping for the Peg:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BdvYbMchcrn/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again

*pours gasoline all over that and lights a match*
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on December 02, 2021, 10:08:28 AM
Remember this (when San Jose Shark players whined about having to play in Winnipeg)?   Maurice repping for the Peg:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BdvYbMchcrn/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again

Apparently the hotel that teams use in Winnipeg is fairly disliked by players, Methot has mentioned it a few times on his podcast with Brent Wallace.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 02, 2021, 10:12:15 AM
Apparently the hotel that teams use in Winnipeg is fairly disliked by players, Methot has mentioned it a few times on his podcast with Brent Wallace.

I love this....freak opposing players.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on December 02, 2021, 10:19:24 AM
I love this....freak opposing players.

Fairly sure that teams get to choose their own hotels, which suggests that none of them are much good. Which is fine, except that creating a shitty impression of Winnipeg in players' minds doesn't help you when it comes to trying to attract FAs or trade for players with restricted trade lists. If you teach them to think that Winnipeg is a pooper they hate visiting, they're going to tell their agents not to bother taking the calls.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 02, 2021, 10:25:39 AM
Fairly sure that teams get to choose their own hotels, which suggests that none of them are much good. Which is fine, except that creating a shitty impression of Winnipeg in players' minds doesn't help you when it comes to trying to attract FAs or trade for players with restricted trade lists. If you teach them to think that Winnipeg is a pooper they hate visiting, they're going to tell their agents not to bother taking the calls.

Except that hasn't been a problem....Stastny signed here twice (once he waived a NTC, and the more recent was a FA signing).  Nate Schmidt also waived a NTC to come here.

if anything was going to repel players, it should be our dumbfuck HC.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on December 04, 2021, 07:32:20 AM
*pours gasoline all over that and lights a match*

Nice river hockey win over NJ grumpy    : )
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 04, 2021, 09:14:55 AM
Nice river hockey win over NJ grumpy    : )
The Devils played 3 games in 4 nights while the jets were on 4 days rest.

I'm not starting any parades
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on December 04, 2021, 08:26:39 PM
Fire Recchi into the freaking sun.

I'd also drive Lindy to the airport after packing his bags if it meant bringing in Torts.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 07, 2021, 07:22:50 AM
A little late with this but the Canucks cleaned house (fired Travis Greene and Jim Benning) and the Flyers fired their HC (Alain Vigneault).

The Canucks hired Big Daddy Bruce Boudreau to replace Greene.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: guinness77 on December 09, 2021, 08:21:19 AM
Goal (and pass) of the year scored the other night by Sonny Milano.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 10, 2021, 09:37:53 AM
Goal (and pass) of the year scored the other night by Sonny Milano.

Alyssa > Sonny
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 10, 2021, 11:09:17 PM
#FireMaurice
/banned
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 17, 2021, 10:07:35 AM
Paul Maurice fired!!! LETS freaking GOOOO!!!!
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 17, 2021, 01:31:34 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/yHBmJ.gif)
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 17, 2021, 11:32:49 PM
#firepaulmaurice
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on December 20, 2021, 10:24:21 PM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1473143399817654284?s=21
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on December 22, 2021, 11:09:36 AM
NHL officially confirms that its players and staff will not be made available for the Olympics:

https://media.nhl.com/public/news/15568
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 22, 2021, 11:11:54 AM
NHL officially confirms that its players and staff will not be made available for the Olympics:

https://media.nhl.com/public/news/15568

Fine...i guess i'll watch short-track speed skating then.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on December 22, 2021, 11:19:41 AM
Fine...i guess i'll watch short-track speed skating then.

I'll watch NHL makeup games. Club sport > international sport.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 22, 2021, 11:23:02 AM
I'll watch NHL makeup games. Club sport > international sport.

the Sens should be out of playoff contention by then. 
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on December 22, 2021, 11:25:05 AM
the Sens should be out of playoff contention by then. 

The Sens have been out of playoff contention since October.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 22, 2021, 11:26:14 AM
The Sens have been out of playoff contention since October.

it's nice to have hope
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 05, 2022, 08:26:26 AM
https://twitter.com/actionnetworkhq/status/1478582575794835462?s=21

This move 🤌
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on January 05, 2022, 08:45:51 AM
https://twitter.com/actionnetworkhq/status/1478582575794835462?s=21

This move 🤌

He is an outrageous player. The closest thing to Erik Karlsson since Erik Karlsson, but he's a better defensive player than 65 was at that age.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on January 27, 2022, 07:48:36 AM
to nobody's surprise, Dave Lowry isn't the answer in Wpg either. 


Need to clean house at the end of the season...GM and entire coaching staff.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on January 27, 2022, 10:18:01 PM
Randy Carlyle?

Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on January 28, 2022, 07:32:23 AM
Randy Carlyle?



I'll forgive you this one time.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on January 29, 2022, 04:39:13 PM
I'll forgive you this one time.
longtime winnipeg jet with an overall winning record as a coach?...

Ok, how about recycling the Thrashers name, hiring a goon-friendly coach & gm who trade Connor & Dubois for Tom Wilson/Brad Marchand types and from there bringing "good old-time hockey" back to the MTS Centre or the Bell MTS Place or the Canada Life Center or whatever the freak place that nondescript collection of "who dey?" ghosts play at.  Instead of 'white outs' have blackouts, both in the stands and on the ice. 

Winnipeg Thrashers  #oldtimehockey. 
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on January 29, 2022, 04:50:14 PM
longtime winnipeg jet with an overall winning record as a coach?...

Ok, how about recycling the Thrashers name, hiring a goon-friendly coach & gm who trade Connor & Dubois for Tom Wilson/Brad Marchand types and from there bringing "good old-time hockey" back to the MTS Centre or the Bell MTS Place or the Canada Life Center or whatever the freak place that nondescript collection of "who dey?" ghosts play at.  Instead of 'white outs' have blackouts, both in the stands and on the ice. 

Winnipeg Thrashers  #oldtimehockey.
....
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on January 30, 2022, 09:07:06 AM
....
Yeah I re-read it…what’s the problem?    LMAO
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on February 03, 2022, 10:45:44 AM
Anaheim Ducks
@AnaheimDucks
 · 7m
IT’S OFFICIAL: We have hired Pat Verbeek as our General Manager.

Verbeek is a two-time Stanley Cup Champion who has spent 35 years in the NHL, the last 16 as an executive.



I didn't even know Verbeek was a front office executive.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on February 03, 2022, 11:07:06 PM
Anaheim Ducks
@AnaheimDucks
 · 7m
IT’S OFFICIAL: We have hired Pat Verbeek as our General Manager.

Verbeek is a two-time Stanley Cup Champion who has spent 35 years in the NHL, the last 16 as an executive.

I didn't even know Verbeek was a front office executive.
Verby & the jets

"VerBEEK!  VerBEEK!  VerBEEK!  VerBEEK!  VerBEEK!.."

(https://media.giphy.com/media/zI9FE3j2lW1qM/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on February 04, 2022, 07:48:52 AM
^ I'm starting to think you might be Bobcat Goldthwaite in real life.  #OfficerZed
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on February 08, 2022, 07:55:56 PM
^ I'm starting to think you might be Bobcat Goldthwaite in real life.  #OfficerZed
Since 'Bobcat' coped his moniker from the bio kingdom Animalia, I should've gone with 'verBEAK" instead of the 'shinny-related' ver-BEEK.   
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on February 10, 2022, 10:10:25 AM
Oilers fired Dave Tippett
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on February 28, 2022, 09:17:01 PM
There's so much wrong with the Devils as presently constituted, but that extension they signed Jack to is going to look like a steal by next season.

Anyway, who wants PK, they'll pay half his salary and I'll drive him to the airport.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on March 04, 2022, 12:01:49 PM
Caps banned pro-Ukraine / anti-Russia flags and banners from their arena. Can't think why.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on March 04, 2022, 12:50:39 PM
Caps banned pro-Ukraine / anti-Russia flags and banners from their arena. Can't think why.

Ovechkin is a swine
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on March 04, 2022, 03:04:31 PM
Ovechkin is a swine
  yup

Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on March 04, 2022, 03:07:10 PM
Meanwhile players like Zub and Svechnikov, who to my knowledge have never publicly supported Putin, stand on home ice and listen to their teams singing the Ukrainian national anthem.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on March 21, 2022, 07:35:43 AM
https://twitter.com/ICdave/status/1505781673392328705?s=20&t=Vuw19FoeNvdRZBxyl168qw
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on March 21, 2022, 07:18:43 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/495CS6H61Z92nghdRA/giphy-downsized-large.gif)
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on April 14, 2022, 02:21:56 PM
I never realised just how tough hockey players had it. Thanks for opening our eyes, Chris.

https://twitter.com/chrispronger/status/1514246460664999942?t=l69HVOc97HRe5cXl5kv-yQ&s=19
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 18, 2022, 11:41:12 PM
The Hamburglar essentially just knocked the Golden Knights out of the playoffs.

Lehner is going to take a beating this offseason.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on April 26, 2022, 08:48:58 PM
As meaningless games go, Sens / Devils was hugely entertaining.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on April 27, 2022, 09:29:32 AM
As meaningless games go, Sens / Devils was hugely entertaining.

It was!

The Devils have a young core that can put up points in bunches (and that's even without Jack), the problem is this is legitimately the worst goaltending and special teams I've seen out of the franchise since I've been watching hockey. Just horrible.

I saw a report that it's 50/50 Lindy returns. Yes he's been hamstrung by the lack of goaltending and how young the team is, but the powerplay and penalty kill have been just God awful. Dineen has done a great job at Utica (and did a good job with the Panthers) and deserves a shot or there's candidates outside of the organization like Torts, Vignault and Guy Boucher that I'd like to see brought in over retaining a lame duck Ruff. 

Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on April 27, 2022, 10:33:06 AM
It was!

The Devils have a young core that can put up points in bunches (and that's even without Jack), the problem is this is legitimately the worst goaltending and special teams I've seen out of the franchise since I've been watching hockey. Just horrible.

I saw a report that it's 50/50 Lindy returns. Yes he's been hamstrung by the lack of goaltending and how young the team is, but the powerplay and penalty kill have been just God awful. Dineen has done a great job at Utica (and did a good job with the Panthers) and deserves a shot or there's candidates outside of the organization like Torts, Vignault and Guy Boucher that I'd like to see brought in over retaining a lame duck Ruff. 



Lindy Ruff is one of my most hated coaches in the NHL, probably only Darryl Sutter ranks above him. Ruff's coaching style was out of date two decades ago and it hasn't improved since then.

Not sure that any of the retreads you list would be a huge improvement. Boucher bringing the trap back to New Jersey would be hilarious though.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on May 02, 2022, 11:27:46 AM
Quote
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
 · 23m
Hearing #nhljets are planning a complete overhaul of their coaching staff: interim coach Dave Lowry, assistants Jamie Kompon and Charlie Huddy are all not returning.

Huddy had been with Jets through numerous head coaches.

Sounds like Wade Flaherty will remain on staff.


Oh happy day!
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on May 03, 2022, 06:16:10 PM
LGR!!!!
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Badger on May 03, 2022, 07:03:39 PM
Larb!
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on May 09, 2022, 09:03:13 AM
The Isles fired Trotz?!


wtf are you guys doing, guinness?
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on May 09, 2022, 11:07:50 AM
Devils should bring him in ASAP.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on May 09, 2022, 11:22:24 AM
Devils should bring him in ASAP.

My money would be on Vegas bringing him in to replace DeBoer.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on May 09, 2022, 12:54:12 PM
Sportsnet and Elliott Friedman are already saying the  Wpg Jets will be all over Trotz.....plus he lives in Manitoba in the offseason.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: IATA on May 09, 2022, 07:55:42 PM
https://twitter.com/Ginohard_/status/1512247329763454979?t=9Ttd5hoiOF1gzW2iS_XNpg&s=19


Whoops
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on May 15, 2022, 09:20:59 PM
https://twitter.com/Ginohard_/status/1512247329763454979?t=9Ttd5hoiOF1gzW2iS_XNpg&s=19


Whoops
And history repeats itself.  It took Igor a while but amazing third periods in game five and game six and he was tremendous all game tonight. 
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on May 15, 2022, 09:49:36 PM
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Golfer_swing.jpg/320px-Golfer_swing.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on May 16, 2022, 12:04:27 PM
Vegas fired Pete DeBoer

also

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
 · 1h
Lane Lambert has been named head coach of the New York Islanders. He would have had opportunities elsewhere.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on May 16, 2022, 06:02:55 PM
https://twitter.com/6ixbuzztv/status/1525663869691207682

Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on May 17, 2022, 03:37:35 AM
When will it end for these poor bastards?

https://nypost.com/2022/05/17/maple-leafs-star-mitch-marner-carjacked-at-gunpoint/
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on May 17, 2022, 01:38:25 PM
Elliotte Friedman@FriedgeHNIC

Hearing Winnipeg is interviewing Barry Trotz for its coaching position today.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on May 17, 2022, 09:58:06 PM
Final 8 'who cares?' predictions

WEST
Avs / Blues
In my heart: Avs
In my head: Avs

NORTH
Flames / Oilers
In my heart: Oilers
In my head: toss-up

CENTRAL
Canes / Rangers
In my heart: Rangers
In my head: Canes

EAST
Panthers / Lightning
In my heart: don't care
In my head: don't care


Nice touch by the tobacco-chewing, sister-plugging tarheels: https://twitter.com/howierose/status/1526321783078518790




Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on May 24, 2022, 11:31:13 AM
Quote
Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
·
9m
I can confirm John Tortorella is  one of the Coaches that has  interviewed with the @NHLFlyers
 for their HC vacancy. @espn
 @NHL
 #HockeyTwitter


hire him Philly.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 06, 2022, 07:34:59 PM
Bruins fired Bruce Cassidy. 


For MJ:

Quote
Jeff O'Connor
@JeffOConnor
·
1h
Bunch of NHL HCs have been axed the last few months that probably (or definitely) didn't deserve it, but the #NJDevils out here hugging Lindy Ruff.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on June 06, 2022, 07:59:24 PM
Bruins fired Bruce Cassidy. 


For MJ:

Love Jeff, we grew up together/been to many a Devils game together. He's a great guy.

As far as Lindy, yeah. Pretty much shows the absolute cluelessness of this freaking ownership group. There's just no justification to keep him on a lame duck deal especially given the talent that's out there in terms of coaching.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on June 06, 2022, 08:02:26 PM
Love Jeff, we grew up together/been to many a Devils game together. He's a great guy.

As far as Lindy, yeah. Pretty much shows the absolute cluelessness of this freaking ownership group. There's just no justification to keep him on a lame duck deal especially given the talent that's out there in terms of coaching.

I have made my opinion clear on Lindy Ruff before, I think. But one more time so there are no doubts about how I feel: no matter how many unadulterated turds I have had to watch behind the bench at my wretched poverty franchise, I will never, ever understand how Lindy Ruff continues to get hired.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 06, 2022, 08:06:13 PM
Lindy Ruff is in the Paul Maurice tier of coaching excellence
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 14, 2022, 04:03:22 PM
the first coaching domino falls


Quote
Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
**Breaking News** 🚨 📰
I’m told @GoldenKnights
 to hire HC Bruce Cassidy. @NHL
 @StanleyCup
 #HockeyTwitter
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 14, 2022, 10:16:43 PM
2nd domino


Quote
Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
·
2m
**Breaking News** 🚨📰
I’m told the @NHLFlyers
 have offered their HC position to John Tortorella. More negotiations required for deal to be completed. @GrittyNHL
 over to you ! @NHL
 @StanleyCup
 #HockeyTwitter
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on June 15, 2022, 12:38:30 AM
That's a fantastic hire by Vegas.

Good news for the Jets as well since there goes an appealing destination for Trotz.

Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 15, 2022, 07:11:02 AM
That's a fantastic hire by Vegas.

Good news for the Jets as well since there goes an appealing destination for Trotz.



We're in dangerous territory. I was hoping Trotz would've been the first domino to fall...because i'm wondering if he takes the year off this year.  We could be left holding our dicks at the end of this game of HC musical chairs.

My plan B is Jim Montgomery, but he's a finalist over in Boston.  If the Bruins land him before Trotz makes a decision, i might have to start smoking cigarettes.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 16, 2022, 06:16:24 PM
The Jets are meeting with Trotz on the weekend potentially to hammer out a deal.  If it doesn't happen, I will become the Joker.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on June 16, 2022, 06:21:39 PM
The Jets are meeting with Trotz on the weekend potentially to hammer out a deal.  If it doesn't happen, I will become the Joker.

Like you don't normally wear make up and talk rubbish.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 16, 2022, 06:25:46 PM
Like you don't normally wear make up and talk rubbish.

I'll admit.."murdering innocent people" will be a bit of a change to my routine. 
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on June 16, 2022, 06:39:15 PM
I'll admit.."murdering innocent people" will be a bit of a change to my routine. 

Who in this world is truly innocent?
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 16, 2022, 08:23:59 PM
Who in this world is truly innocent?
OJ
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 17, 2022, 12:31:09 PM
*Paging Johnny English*


According to Arthur Staple, Jack Capuano was a finalist for the Flyers HC job. 
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on June 17, 2022, 12:36:26 PM
*Paging Johnny English*


According to Arthur Staple, Jack Capuano was a finalist for the Flyers HC job. 

At least they let him interview this time, we refused to let him interview with Buffalo last year.

I really don't care about our coaching staff right now. Until we get new owners we can't fix the GM problem, and until we get a new GM we can't fix coaching problems. (And I don't think DJ and Capuano are especially terrible anyway, they're just not especially anything.)
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 19, 2022, 08:57:53 PM
Stars are hiring Pete Deboer according to Elliott Friedman
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 22, 2022, 09:36:22 AM
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
39s
Paul Maurice is going into FLA…replacing Andrew Brunette




good night, sweet prince.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 22, 2022, 09:36:57 AM
Don't even ask me to make sense of it....because it doesn't. 
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on June 22, 2022, 01:29:55 PM
#firepaulmaurice
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 01, 2022, 02:34:22 PM
Pain
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 07, 2022, 01:03:23 PM
Does Joe Sakic really think his team can defend a title with a tandem of Georgiev (who sucks) and Francouz?

Should be a very interesting draft tonight. Hope the Devils stand pat and take Wright or Slafkovsky. I'd rather the size of Slaf's to pair with Jack, but in the limited time I've watched Wright he does seem like an exceptional two way center.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 07, 2022, 01:41:09 PM
Somebody take Blake Wheeler off our hands....thanks.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 07, 2022, 02:04:14 PM
Somebody take Blake Wheeler off our hands....thanks.

Call Dorion, he's usually good for a headscratching deal or two. I'll bet Bowness loves Wheeler though.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 07, 2022, 02:16:02 PM
Call Dorion, he's usually good for a headscratching deal or two. I'll bet Bowness loves Wheeler though.

Bowness phoned Wheeler, and Wheeler didn't take the call....responded with a text.

He's out of here.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 07, 2022, 02:25:25 PM
Bowness phoned Wheeler, and Wheeler didn't take the call....responded with a text.

He's out of here.

$8.25M per year..... ouch. You're going to have to swallow something nasty to move that.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 07, 2022, 02:27:15 PM
$8.25M per year..... ouch. You're going to have to swallow something nasty to move that.

probably.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 07, 2022, 02:30:32 PM
probably.

Mind you, he's still PPG at 36 years old. Am I right in thinking that he's been something of a turd in the locker room? Because a vet PPG RW on reasonable money for a couple of year after you eat some of his deal sounds like not a terrible idea for the Sens if we don't get Giroux.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 07, 2022, 02:41:30 PM
Mind you, he's still PPG at 36 years old. Am I right in thinking that he's been something of a turd in the locker room? Because a vet PPG RW on reasonable money for a couple of year after you eat some of his deal sounds like not a terrible idea for the Sens if we don't get Giroux.

send over Chabot, and i'll pay for Wheeler's plane ticket
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 07, 2022, 03:29:27 PM
send over Chabot, and i'll pay for Wheeler's plane ticket

Pierre Dorion declines your kind offer and instead chooses to send some picks to Chicago for Alex DeBrincat.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 07, 2022, 05:44:10 PM
Pierre Dorion declines your kind offer and instead chooses to send some picks to Chicago for Alex DeBrincat.
Big mistake by Peter Doink
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 07, 2022, 06:37:25 PM
Devils passed on both Wright and Cooley....wtf
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 07, 2022, 07:20:26 PM
Well now. I didn't see that coming.

I get that they have Jack and Nico but you can never, ever have enough depth up the middle. Fitz with a very bold move.

Kid better be more Victor Hedman and less Lars Jonsson.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on July 07, 2022, 07:35:28 PM
Need over BPA for the Devils. Nemec seems to be exactly what they need but the Devils are still rebuilding. Hopefully this signals they actually want to win now.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 07, 2022, 07:46:56 PM
Need over BPA for the Devils. Nemec seems to be exactly what they need but the Devils are still rebuilding. Hopefully this signals they actually want to win now.
No NHL draftee is ever a win now move.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 07, 2022, 07:48:50 PM
Need over BPA for the Devils. Nemec seems to be exactly what they need but the Devils are still rebuilding. Hopefully this signals they actually want to win now.
Nemec is the next Ken Daneyko.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 08, 2022, 08:31:44 PM
Nemec is the next Ken Daneyko.

Hopefully in some respects and not others.

And by others I mean being an incredibly addictive personality that unfortunately doesn't pay his gambling debts.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 12, 2022, 08:50:08 PM
Johnny Hockey tells the Flames thanks but no thanks.

Gotta assume its either the Flyers or Devils at this point. I know people are floating the Isles, but he's from South Jersey, that kind of defeats the purpose of going home.

Admittedly given his size and the term it's going to take there's reason for trepidation, but I'm not going to do anything but backflips if Fitz is able to import 119 points into the dressing room. Especially with the expectation that the cap is going to skyrocket in 2024.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 12, 2022, 10:15:20 PM
Johnny Hockey tells the Flames thanks but no thanks.

Gotta assume its either the Flyers or Devils at this point. I know people are floating the Isles, but he's from South Jersey, that kind of defeats the purpose of going home.

Admittedly given his size and the term it's going to take there's reason for trepidation, but I'm not going to do anything but backflips if Fitz is able to import 119 points into the dressing room. Especially with the expectation that the cap is going to skyrocket in 2024.
Max term you can give him is 7 years which would take him to 35, and the last 2 will be dumpable with the way they structure contracts. I wouldn't be scared of that deal.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 13, 2022, 08:09:57 AM
NHL Free Agency day....i have my coffee and bottle of anti-depressants ready for deployment.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 13, 2022, 09:51:25 AM
Johnny Hockey tells the Flames thanks but no thanks.

Gotta assume its either the Flyers or Devils at this point. I know people are floating the Isles, but he's from South Jersey, that kind of defeats the purpose of going home.

Admittedly given his size and the term it's going to take there's reason for trepidation, but I'm not going to do anything but backflips if Fitz is able to import 119 points into the dressing room. Especially with the expectation that the cap is going to skyrocket in 2024.
The NHL insiders are saying the Devils are the frontrunners
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 13, 2022, 10:08:24 AM
Pavel Zacha traded to the Bruins.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 13, 2022, 10:48:33 AM
Pavel Zacha traded to the Bruins.

Good riddance. It's sad on one hand considering their investment in him having the return only be Eric Haula, but I actually love Haula for this time. Gritty, third line center who wins faceoffs, plays a physical game, especially on the boards and can center a pk line. And he's cheap.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 13, 2022, 10:55:30 AM
Good riddance. It's sad on one hand considering their investment in him having the return only be Eric Haula, but I actually love Haula for this time. Gritty, third line center who wins faceoffs, plays a physical game, especially on the boards and can center a pk line. And he's cheap.

If i were a Devils fan, i'd be more stoked about hiring Brunette than this trade....once Ruff gets fired, he can take over.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 13, 2022, 11:04:55 AM
If i were a Devils fan, i'd be more stoked about hiring Brunette than this trade....once Ruff gets fired, he can take over.

I definitely am. Best news of the day so far, we all know Lindy's time here is nearing its completion (thankfully).

Brunette did enough imho that he should've been retained in Florida.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 13, 2022, 11:08:38 AM
Giroux to the Sens, 3 years @ $6.5M AAV. Dorion having the offseason of his career.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 13, 2022, 11:11:22 AM
Giroux to the Sens, 3 years @ $6.5M AAV. Dorion having the offseason of his career.

Between this and the Talbot trade, they're off to a fantastic start. Bringing in DeBrincat was yuge but they need to justify that price and get him signed to an extension.

How the Leafs didn't try to move on Talbot is beyond me/might be the thing that gets Dubas fired if and when they get bounced out in the first round again.

I actually like Troceck as a player but SEVEN freaking years?!
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 13, 2022, 06:35:47 PM
Goudreau leaving money on the table in NJ to sign with Columbus is not what I expected. Did Lou tell him to cut his hair or have a shave or straighten up and fly right, or something equally patronising and annoying as only Lou Lamoriello would do?
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 13, 2022, 07:06:02 PM
Goudreau leaving money on the table in NJ to sign with Columbus is not what I expected. Did Lou tell him to cut his hair or have a shave or straighten up and fly right, or something equally patronising and annoying as only Lou Lamoriello would do?
Gaudreau*
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 13, 2022, 07:18:40 PM
Gaudreau*
*Hockey
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Badger on July 13, 2022, 07:48:22 PM
*Hockey
*Honkey
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 13, 2022, 08:23:26 PM
Also apparently I still think Lamoriello is GM of the Devils.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Badger on July 14, 2022, 07:13:56 AM
Also apparently I still think Lamoriello is GM of the Devils.
I didn't even question your post when I read it.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 14, 2022, 08:08:22 AM
Also apparently I still think Lamoriello is GM of the Devils.
I didn't even question your post when I read it.


#OldHeads
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: loyaljetsfan on July 14, 2022, 12:35:04 PM


Bummer we lost Copp after giving up a first for him, Trochek is a good signing for NYR.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 14, 2022, 09:09:59 PM
Hated yesterday for obvious reasons. Sucks that they couldn't reel in Gaudreau, would've been quite a fit next to Nico or Jack. Moreso there was other moves that could've been made with their ample cap space (trading for Pacioretty) had they not been stuck in limbo for a free agent they missed out of.

Not a fan of giving Palat five years either, though I do understand the logic of importing that kind of pedigree and grit into such a young locker room. The hope is that by year four if the contract is excrement they're competitive enough to where you can part with the second rounder it might take to dump the contract.

Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2022, 12:40:26 PM
Let the Matthew Tkachuk speculation commence!

All things considered, I think he ends up in Ottawa or the Loo, but maybe unky Fitz (Tom Fitzgerald is his uncle) can convince his nephew to come play with Jack or Nico. Devils certainly have the assets to get it done, just a matter of whether he'd ink an extension.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 21, 2022, 12:44:57 PM
Let the Matthew Tkachuk speculation commence!

All things considered, I think he ends up in Ottawa or the Loo, but maybe unky Fitz (Tom Fitzgerald is his uncle) can convince his nephew to come play with Jack or Nico. Devils certainly have the assets to get it done, just a matter of whether he'd ink an extension.

He won't come to Ottawa. Any money and trade capital we have left is for a blueliner.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 21, 2022, 12:54:10 PM
Let the Matthew Tkachuk speculation commence!

All things considered, I think he ends up in Ottawa or the Loo, but maybe unky Fitz (Tom Fitzgerald is his uncle) can convince his nephew to come play with Jack or Nico. Devils certainly have the assets to get it done, just a matter of whether he'd ink an extension.

He'll end up in Vegas because that's where NHL cunts go to die
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: delavan on July 23, 2022, 04:54:40 AM
He'll end up in Vegas because that's where NHL cunts go to die
That ‘NHL queynte’ Tkachuk’s now a big hoo-ha

https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/panthers-acquire-matthew-tkachuk-give-up-jonathan-huberdeau-in-blockbuster-trade-with-flames/amp/
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 23, 2022, 06:57:30 AM
That ‘NHL queynte’ Tkachuk’s now a big hoo-ha

https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/panthers-acquire-matthew-tkachuk-give-up-jonathan-huberdeau-in-blockbuster-trade-with-flames/amp/

My first impulse was Florida WAY WAY overpaid, but if Huberdeau wasn't going to resign there (and given the age gap between him and Tkachuk), it's not egregious.

Now the question for Calgary is, can they get Huberdeau locked up?
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 23, 2022, 10:05:39 AM
My first impulse was Florida WAY WAY overpaid, but if Huberdeau wasn't going to resign there (and given the age gap between him and Tkachuk), it's not egregious.

Now the question for Calgary is, can they get Huberdeau locked up?

Maurice will ruin Tkachuk.
Title: Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on July 25, 2022, 11:24:13 AM
Maurice will ruin Tkachuk.

Still makes absolutely zero sense to me that they didn't just bring back Brunette.