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The Rest Of The Sports World => You Don't Know Football => Topic started by: bojanglesman on January 23, 2014, 08:45:10 PM
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Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) tweeted at 9:23 PM on Thu, Jan 23, 2014:
Terms for #Cowboys K Dan Bailey’s extension: It’s 6 years (starts in ‘15) for $22.5M. $4M to sign and $7.5M guaranteed. $3.4M per in new $$.
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Hahaha what the freak?
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Rotoworlds blurb makes it sound even worse
Cowboys K Dan Bailey's six-year extension is worth $22.5 million, with $7.5 million guaranteed.
Only in Jerry's World. More cap strapped than any team in football, the Cowboys will likely have to convert salaries into prorated "signing" bonuses elsewhere on the roster to fit Bailey's head-scratching new deal into their already in-the-red finances. Bailey gets a $4.5 million signing bonus and $3.4 million per year in new money. We don't have any problem with Bailey -- he's 26 and one of the top placekickers in the game -- but the Cowboys' contractual dealings are annually the most preposterous in football. Maybe they'll bulk up Bailey and get him to double at defensive tackle. Dallas is currently nearly $22 million over the cap.
http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football
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Now all they need is Tony Sparano to fist pump all the FGs Bailey will make to earn that paycheck.
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Good god what in the freaking world is Folk going to ask for. Jerry Jones is a complete fucktard.
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Good god what in the freaking world is Folk going to ask for. Jerry Jones is a complete fucktard.
That was my first thought as well. Hopefully he doesn't get any ideas.
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That was my first thought as well. Hopefully he doesn't get any ideas.
Don't get any idere's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6SSETwRkhk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6SSETwRkhk)
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How the freak is above average kicker worth that kind of money to any team, let alone a team with no money? Also kickers are so finicky that their mechanics or confidence can dip at any time, making them a liability, so a 6 year contract is nuts for a kicker then the absurd money is more crazy
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Rotocrap:
The Cowboys are expected to restructure the contracts of both Tony Romo and Kyle Orton.
Dallas goes through this every offseason -- just pushing problems further down the road to deal with the following year. The Cowboys are currently projected to be nearly $25 million over the 2014 salary cap. Turning Romo's $13.5 million base salary into the veteran's minimum and a "signing bonus" would create over $9 million in cap space. Orton and his $4.37 million cap number could be released, but that would save a meager $995,000.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-h0rtL6JS3_w/Tb7F8nI_J5I/AAAAAAAAC4w/jP81mGUK3Os/s320/Kick%2BThe%2BCan.jpg)
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The Cowboys highed Scott Linehan as...something......to be their playcaller.
And they're keeping Bill Callahan..for something to do something. And he's not very happy.
The dolphins, browns and cowboys might have some side bet as to who can fumblefuck their organization the worst
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The Cowboys highed Scott Linehan as...something......to be their playcaller.
And they're keeping Bill Callahan..for something to do something. And he's not very happy.
The dolphins, browns and cowboys might have some side bet as to who can fumblefuck their organization the worst
Is there an article you can link for Callahan being unhappy, he did a great job with the Jets Oline.
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Is there an article you can link for Callahan being unhappy, he did a great job with the Jets Oline.
Except he was their play caller last year.
and he's not very good at that.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4723760/source-callahan-would-be-upset-if-linehan-is-hired
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Except he was their play caller last year.
and he's not very good at that.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4723760/source-callahan-would-be-upset-if-linehan-is-hired (http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4723760/source-callahan-would-be-upset-if-linehan-is-hired)
Thanks, I was just opining on his time here, I really didn't follow the Cowboys playcalling. He improved that crappy line there that's for sure. Anyway, the Jets are still called a circus yet look at Dallas, Miami or Cleveland. The Jets aren't even in the same ballpark.
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Anyway, the Jets are still called a circus
Not seeing much of that anymore.
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Not seeing much of that anymore.
Next time I see it in a national writers article or blog I will point it out. However, that circus theme is still an underlying component to their writing.
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Rotocrap:
The Cowboys are expected to restructure the contracts of both Tony Romo and Kyle Orton.
Dallas goes through this every offseason -- just pushing problems further down the road to deal with the following year. The Cowboys are currently projected to be nearly $25 million over the 2014 salary cap. Turning Romo's $13.5 million base salary into the veteran's minimum and a "signing bonus" would create over $9 million in cap space. Orton and his $4.37 million cap number could be released, but that would save a meager $995,000.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-h0rtL6JS3_w/Tb7F8nI_J5I/AAAAAAAAC4w/jP81mGUK3Os/s320/Kick%2BThe%2BCan.jpg)
Can the Cowboys just declare NFL cap bankruptcy and start with a clean slate?
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http://overthecap.com/looking-dallas-cowboys-alarming-cap-mess/
They are going to have to release Ware, cut Miles Austin after June 1, AND restructure 3-5 contracts just to get below the cap and sign their draft picks.
They are going to end up paying Tony Romo until 2045 at this rate. I hope he tries to find a way to keep Ware so this excrement goes further down the toilet. Dumbass gave his kicker a huge contract despite being in the hole massively.
Jerry Jones is an elite dumpster fire.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0TGfFx7ln-E/UQ2AJzOjlhI/AAAAAAAAD50/NfPFSwNkCew/s320/jerry-jones-meme-generator-you-thought-al-davis-was-the-only-sith-lord-2a926a.jpg)
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They might be brutal for a year or two. Trying to mess with the salary cap calculator and it's hard to figure out how they can retain talent and stay under the cap.
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They might be brutal for a year or two. Trying to mess with the salary cap calculator and it's hard to figure out how they can retain talent and stay under the cap.
I farted around with it too. I restructured Romo, Witten, cut Ware and Miles Austin (June 1) and finally got under the cap, barely. I still wouldn't have enough to sign the draft class.
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I farted around with it too. I restructured Romo, Witten, cut Ware and Miles Austin (June 1) and finally got under the cap, barely. I still wouldn't have enough to sign the draft class.
You can restructure their entire defensive backfield to get around 7 million under (on top of the Romo restructure and cutting Ware) but it fucks you over for 2015.
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You can restructure their entire defensive backfield to get around 7 million under (on top of the Romo restructure and cutting Ware) but it fucks you over for 2015.
It's kind of fun seeing how you and Jerry Jones, together, can freak up the future of a team.
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I hope they release Ware and the Jets pick him up.
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I hope they release Ware and the Jets pick him up.
hahaha....i was thinking the same thing.
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I have never seen such a bad situation, and is going to be fun to try and figure this out.
They currently have 62 players under contract, and according to over the cap, a total of $145 million. According to spotrac, they have a number of 152 Million. The one thing I don't like about over the cap is the top 51 number and the total number, but the top 51 number plus dead money doesn't equal $145 Million, it equals 152 million, so let's use 152 million.
Even worse, is the situation that they are in next year where they only have 39 players under contract, assuming the TV deal doesn't significantly jump like I expect it will.
For the Record, the Romo deal was the dumbest contract I think I have ever seen. With that said, I guess you could convert $12 Million of his salary into signing bonus, and will guarantee he is the quarterback through the 2016 season. That would put him at 37 years old going into the 2017 season. However, even though it will save them $9.5 Million this season, it will give Romo a $28 Million dollar cap number in 2015.
Demarcus Ware has converted part of his salary every season for the last 3 years, and I expect the same will happen this season, since Jerry Jones is an idiot, again assuming that their isn't a significant cap bump in 2015. The smart move is to trade him. If he converts $10 Million to that will save them $7.5 Million as they can only prorate for 4 years. You could add void years for proration purposes, but I didn't.
Brandon Carr converts $6 Million to signing bonuses and saves $4.5 Million
Kyle Orton pay cut to guaranteed 2015 salary of $2.5 Million.
Jason Witten converts $4 Million to signing bonuses and saves $3 Million
Miles Austin June 1st designation cut saves $3 Million
Sean Lee converts $4 Million and saves $3.2 Million
That is a total reduction of $33.2 Million
Extend Dez Bryant with a 5 year contract with a sizeable signing bonus so the salaries are low for 2014 and 2015, and lets use a cap number of $5 Million in 2014.
That puts the 2014 cap number at $124 Million, in addition, they will have to cut 9 players to get down to 53. If they each make $500,000 that would save another $4.5 Million, and if they sign 4 draft picks that is another $2 Million. However they will have about $3 Million in those signings. Net result $3.5 Million savings, and a 2014 cap coming out of training camp of $120.5 Million.
Now, we handled 2014, but as mentioned before, 2015 is a nightmare in itself. They were sitting at about $130 Million, but because of the conversions you have to add $8.3 Million, and you start the process all over again. Plus the Bryant contract minus the Austin cut savings. Pretty close to a wash.
Did I miss anything? I don't enough about the Cowboys to know which high priced players are expendable, and I used the highest players available to just convert. Obviously, straight cuts would be better if possible.
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If Jerry suddenly developed some sense and tried to actually fix this situation, I would let Ware go, cut Miles Austin (June 1), restructure Romo and maybe Sean Lee and Orton. Witten is too old to restructure. Restructure just enough to get under the cap and then start playing young guys. Throw the draft picks out there to play. You can't tank a season to get back under the cap, but at least if you play a ton of recent draft picks you have a chance to maybe find a diamond in the rough while not spending a ton. Either way, 2014 and/or 2015 if going to be a excrement year for them. Gotta take the pain sometime. Sooner the better.
The scary thing is that it may make sense to let Dez Bryant hit free agency. They can't afford to re-sign him.
I hope they sign Dez to a massive deal that is backloaded and keep Ware too. Burn baby burn.
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If Jerry suddenly developed some sense and tried to actually fix this situation, I would let Ware go, cut Miles Austin (June 1), restructure Romo and maybe Sean Lee and Orton. Witten is too old to restructure. Restructure just enough to get under the cap and then start playing young guys. Throw the draft picks out there to play. You can't tank a season to get back under the cap, but at least if you play a ton of recent draft picks you have a chance to maybe find a diamond in the rough while not spending a ton. Either way, 2014 and/or 2015 if going to be a excrement year for them. Gotta take the pain sometime. Sooner the better.
The scary thing is that it may make sense to let Dez Bryant hit free agency. They can't afford to re-sign him.
I hope they sign Dez to a massive deal that is backloaded and keep Ware too. Burn baby burn.
I didn't restructure any contracts. I just converted salary to signing bonus. It is money that is going to be paid anyway, just spreading it out.
Also, I agree, move on from Ware, but I think we both know that isn't going to happen. I wouldn't however just cut him. He is worth something.
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To my knowledge, that's what restructuring is. Moving around $ within the same contract. I wasn't talking about extending deals.
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I hope they release Ware and the Jets pick him up.
This team needs to get younger though
Ware is a great player, but he's going to be 32 when the season starts and he's coming back from surgery.
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This team needs to get younger though
Ware is a great player, but he's going to be 32 when the season starts and he's coming back from surgery.
Yeah, but still.
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To my knowledge, that's what restructuring is. Moving around $ within the same contract. I wasn't talking about extending deals.
I guess it would be a consideration of definition. My opinion is a restructuring is adding or subtracting money. The contracts stay exactly the same accept for accounting purposes, and at what point the actual money changes hands.
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This team needs to get younger though
Ware is a great player, but he's going to be 32 when the season starts and he's coming back from surgery.
Oh I know, like Badger said,"but still"
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I guess it would be a consideration of definition. My opinion is a restructuring is adding or subtracting money. The contracts stay exactly the same accept for accounting purposes, and at what point the actual money changes hands.
Restructure of the funds, that's exactly what you did.
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Restructure of the funds, that's exactly what you did.
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Ok, fine. I restructured. However, it didn't change anything to the point of not being able to do it for someone that is too old. The contract will still end when its suppose to, but they will take a hit in future years versus taking the hit this year. Which is what is important.
Edit: Further to the point, the contract probably has a clause in it that says they can do it. Thus making it not a restructure. Not real sure why this is even being discussed. I have a difference of opinion, but is really a moot point.
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They almost had to do this, but mismanagement of the cap put them in this position. I think it's funny that they are still over the cap technically.
Rototurd:
The Cowboys have converted $12.5 million of Tony Romo's $13.5 million base salary into a signing bonus, clearing cap room in 2014.
Moves like this ensure future cap woes, but are needed by financially-strapped teams like Dallas simply to get under the 2014 cap. Romo's cap figure has now dropped from $21.773 million to $11.773 million. The Cowboys created $6.8 million on Monday by doing similar things with the contracts of CB Orlando Scandrick and MLB Sean Lee. They're now roughly $1 million over the cap.
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they're just gonna continue the cycle of pushing it to the next year, and the next.....
Jerrah
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they're just gonna continue the cycle of pushing it to the next year, and the next.....
Jerrah
Well, at least it looks like the cap will keep on going up to match his tardedness.
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PFT:
Cowboys owner and General Manager Jerry Jones has acknowledged that he almost drafted Johnny Manziel, and that he talked about it with his son Stephen at the moment the Cowboys were turning in their card. But a new book says it was a more dramatic scene than that.
According to author Jim Dent in the new book Manziel Mania, Stephen had to physically restrain Jerry from turning in a card with Manziel’s name on it, and if it hadn’t been for Steven stepping in, Manziel would be a Cowboy.
“Cowboys vice president Stephen Jones had snatched the Manziel card straight out of his dad’s hand. Otherwise, Jerry would have drafted him and JFF would have sat for at least three years behind Tony Romo,” Dent writes, via the Dallas Morning News.
If Jerry watched Manziel’s sub-par performance on Monday night, he may be thanking his son today.
Also, this unrelated image:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGkAoZOCAAAzGjE.jpg:large)
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http://deadspin.com/man-loses-it-destroys-house-after-cowboys-lose-regular-1652972912
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Is that guy autistic or freaking stupid?
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Is that guy autistic or freaking stupid?
That's an insult to autists.
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That's an insult to autists.
Very true my bad.
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http://nesn.com/2014/10/joseph-randle-wanted-massage-made-jokes-about-mugshot-during-booking/
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https://twitter.com/dallascowboys/status/529444932474654720
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http://nypost.com/2014/11/30/former-teammate-demarco-murray-had-affair-with-my-wife/ (http://nypost.com/2014/11/30/former-teammate-demarco-murray-had-affair-with-my-wife/)
(http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/gina2.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1)
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http://heavy.com/sports/2014/11/gina-dagostini-photos-pictures-pics-hot-demarco-murray-affair-facebook-instagram/
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I know he helped ruin a family, but good for Demario Murray. My god...
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http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/demarco-murray-ex-teammate-brennan-clay-cheating-wife-gina-affair-booty-call-sexts-divorce-120514
I'm surprised you don't see stuff like this far more often
I can't even recall the last time I saw something like this happen in the NFL
I'm guess they're usually just banging non famous people's wives
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http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/demarco-murray-ex-teammate-brennan-clay-cheating-wife-gina-affair-booty-call-sexts-divorce-120514 (http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/demarco-murray-ex-teammate-brennan-clay-cheating-wife-gina-affair-booty-call-sexts-divorce-120514)
I'm surprised you don't see stuff like this far more often
I can't even recall the last time I saw something like this happen in the NFL
I'm guess they're usually just banging non famous people's wives
This is in the LOLCowboys thread.
BTW: She's freaking hot.
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If I remember right Toni Braxton was instrumental in breaking up the mid 90s Dallas Mavericks when they had Jason Kidd and some other young guys who were thought to be an up and coming team. I don't think Kidd was involved. Toni later was hooked up with Curtis Martin when he played for the Jets, I think.
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Not really a LOL but it seemed the best place for this:
Jaywan Inc. @JaywanInc · 1h1 hour ago
This is what the general public doesn't understand about the Dez Bryant video...
Jaywan Inc. @JaywanInc · 1h1 hour ago
The video was recorded by his now former friends. He was hanging around some pretty dark people. Now they aren't friends anymore.
Jaywan Inc. @JaywanInc · 1h1 hour ago
So his ex-friends decided it was time for a pay day. However, noone is going to have possession of that tape until they pay. Whoever it is.
Jaywan Inc. @JaywanInc · 1h1 hour ago
In conclusion, to Cowboys Nation: We don't have the tape. We have screenshots. And we're not leaking anything. Dont need a Cowboys lawsuit.
Jaywan Inc. @JaywanInc · 1h1 hour ago
A deadline was set by Bryant's former friends/extortionists for today for either TMZ or Bryant's team to purchase the tape.
Jaywan Inc. @JaywanInc · 1h1 hour ago
THAT is why there are reports of the tape leaking today. What happens from here on out is between Dez, TMZ, and his former friends.
Jaywan Inc. @JaywanInc · 1h1 hour ago
Legal says I'm not at liberty to comment on the content of the screenshots yet.
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I bet it's a video of him smoking crack
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I bet it's a video of him smoking crack
With Rob Ford?
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With Rob Ford?
and Chris Christie
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I bet it's a video of him smoking crack
If it is, I hope the football world is big enough to see past who he was to who he is today. Everyone knows he has a past and even by NFL standings he seems to have had a really tough upbringing; he seems to have worked really hard to put that behind him, and it would be a shame to see the pitchforks come out in this instance.
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At this point crack seems like wishful thinking, for all the hype they're stirring up about this.
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If it is, I hope the football world is big enough to see past who he was to who he is today. Everyone knows he has a past and even by NFL standings he seems to have had a really tough upbringing; he seems to have worked really hard to put that behind him, and it would be a shame to see the pitchforks come out in this instance.
If my guess is actually right, it will be absolutely absurd if people really think that smoking crack (or doing any kind of drug) is "five times as bad" as Ray Rice punching his wife in the face.
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I once worked with a heroin addict who was furious at his deaf stripper pizza for smoking crack.
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I once worked with a heroin addict who was furious at his deaf stripper pizza for smoking crack.
I bet she wasn't a very good dancer
high on crack and she can't hear the music? recipe for rhythmless moves
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I hope if its real its just drugs or something. The hype suggests it should be more along the lines of him punching out someone and kicking them while they're on the ground.
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Whatever it is, I hope it's more funny than sad.
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Twitter rumors have it being an assault video, worse than Ray Rice. That sucks.
http://heavy.com/sports/2015/02/dez-bryant-video-domestic-abuse-ray-rice-tape/
Supposedly "five times worse" than Ray Rice.
According to Terez Owens, a sports rumor blog, allegedly there’s video surveillance footage of Bryant punching a woman in a Wal-Mart.
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We really need more violence against women commercials.
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We really need more violence against women commercials.
(http://www.sportsofanarchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Screenshot-14.png)
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That pic make me want to commit violence against my computer screen.
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That pic make me want to commit violence against my computer screen.
Yeah it should be in that punchable faces reddit thread.
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(http://media.northjersey.com/images/Eli.jpg)
#KeepRex
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Aw, he made Eli bleed during a meaningless preseason game, then let Eli walk all over him while we were "home", propelling Eli and his team to the playoffs and super bowl.
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Aw, he made Eli bleed during a meaningless preseason game, then let Eli walk all over him while we were "home", propelling Eli and his team to the playoffs and super bowl.
... to stop the filth winning it. Even when Rex was losing he was winning.
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Aw, he made Eli bleed during a meaningless preseason game, then let Eli walk all over him while we were "home", propelling Eli and his team to the playoffs and super bowl.
You have by far the single best avatar on the board, it's not close.
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... to stop the filth winning it. Even when Rex was losing he was winning.
Maybe it's because you're not from NY, but although I love watching the Pats lose, watching the Giants win ain't fuckn cool either.
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Twitter rumors have it being an assault video, worse than Ray Rice. That sucks.
http://heavy.com/sports/2015/02/dez-bryant-video-domestic-abuse-ray-rice-tape/
Supposedly "five times worse" than Ray Rice.
According to Terez Owens, a sports rumor blog, allegedly there’s video surveillance footage of Bryant punching a woman in a Wal-Mart.
It can't be at Walmart, it would be out. It has to be some private thing where security cams aren't involved
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/26/nfl-media-releases-2011-wal-mart-incident-report-involving-dez-bryant/
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/26/nfl-media-releases-2011-wal-mart-incident-report-involving-dez-bryant/
The report mentions that an unknown person called the police to explain that a black female was “being dragged from one vehicle to another vehicle” by a black male. The vehicle the woman was dragged from was a Mercedes registered to Dez Bryant.
When a police officer responded, a Wal-Mart security guard explained that he arrived at the scene with the door to the Mercedes still open and a child’s toy on the ground, but that no one was present. Then, two men pulled up in an Escalade registered to Dez Bryant. The two men, Carl King and Christopher Mitchell, said they received a call from the alleged victim, asking them to pick up “her” Mercedes.
Then, a Bentley arrived in the parking lot, with the alleged victim and Dez Bryant inside. The alleged victim claimed that she had an argument with a man named Alex Penson, that she was not assaulted or injured in any way, and that it was “just an argument” with Penson. The alleged victim claimed she was dropped off at a friend’s house, and that she contacted Bryant to pick her up.
The responding officer determined after talking to all parties that there was no offense, and that everyone was free to go.
The report doesn’t mention the availability of Wal-Mart surveillance video, or the contents of it. Instead, it appears that the responding officer accepted the version(s) supplied by King, Mitchell, Bryant, and the alleged victim, and closed the case.
Most if not all Wal-Mart stores have surveillance cameras blanketing the property. Indeed, the longstanding rumor making the rounds among NFL reporters has been not just that an incident occurred at a Wal-Mart parking lot, but that there is video of it.
That doesn't sound convoluted at all.
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He should be embarrassed. That is so ghetto. I mean really, who shops at Walmart when there was likely a Target nearby?
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He should be embarrassed. That is so ghetto. I mean really, who shops at Walmart when there was likely a Target nearby?
Kellen Winslow was jerking off in the Target parking lot.
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Kellen Winslow was jerking off in the Target parking lot.
No, he was classy enough to blow a load at Boston Market. He's practically a NY Giant.
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Breaking News: An Escalade and a Bentley pull into a Walmart parking lot. News at 11.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/startling-report-says-24-old-143600897.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/startling-report-says-24-old-143600897.html)
Amongst other things:
Startling report says 24-year-old player the Cowboys cut mid-season was gambling on sports and having 'delusions'
McCellan told George that Randle" admitted to officers that he was having delusions... He said that he was delusional, that he was imagining the whole thing."
Since being cut, Randle's troubles haven't slowed down. On Monday morning, Randle was arrested over an outstanding speeding warrant, his fourth arrest in 17 months.
In November, three weeks after the Cowboys cut Randle, he was arrested at a casino for becoming "belligerent" on the casino floor. George reports that Randle was charged with four misdemeanors — two counts of disorderly conduct, one count of criminal trespass and one count of resisting arrest.
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NFL suspended LE Demarcus Lawrence four games for violating the substance abuse policy.
Lawrence is appealing the decision, but is fully expected to miss the first month of the season. It leaves Dallas without both of their starting ends with Randy Gregory also suspended. The Dallas Morning News believes Lawrence's ban could push OSU DE Joey Bosa higher up on the Cowboys' draft board.
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They can just run the ole 2-5 defense for the first 4 games.
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Darren McFadden tried to catch a falling phone at his home, slipped, and broke his elbow.
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Darren McFadden tried to catch a falling phone at his home, slipped, and broke his elbow.
why can't Tom Brady do something like this?
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why can't Tom Brady do something like this?
Because rooster can't fall like that.
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why can't Tom Brady do something like this?
Because when Brady flips a phone, it spirals in the air perfectly.
The entire way until he it allows it to crash to the floor and break his SIM card.
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Apparently Denver is Tony Romos preferred destination.
Are they still good enough to be a superbowl contender if they traded for a (healthy) Romo?
Dallas would have to eat 20 million in dead cap to trade Romo which makes me think Denver would have to give them something nice for him
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Apparently Denver is Tony Romos preferred destination.
Are they still good enough to be a superbowl contender if they traded for a (healthy) Romo?
Dallas would have to eat 20 million in dead cap to trade Romo which makes me think Denver would have to give them something nice for him
they can have him
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Romo's contract is a disaster right now. Tough for any team to take on
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I imagine Romo would be willing to restructure his contract in order to facilitate a trade to the right team.
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18093318/dallas-cowboys-lb-rolando-mcclain-suspended-another-year
Rolando McClain is suspended for another year on top of his current 10 game suspension, this time for missing a pee test. McClain will be out until at least November 2017 before he's eligible to apply for reinstatement.
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Major blow to their playoff hopes.
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big if true
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Yeah, they really missed him while they were going 9-1.
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports trading Tony Romo is the Cowboys' "No 1. priority this offseason."
"We know he's not going to be on the Cowboys in 2017," Rapoport said confidently about Romo. He again said Romo would like to land with the Broncos, but added Denver does not "seem inclined to make that move." With it all but decided Romo will be playing elsewhere next season, the only questions remaining are where he ends up and how he gets there. Those questions should dominate the discussion this offseason.
Let me preface this by saying I want nothing to do with Romo.
Who would the other potential suitors be?
Jets, Bears, Browns, Houston?, Arizona?, Bills?, 49ers?
Doesn't seem to be a lot of fits out there. Has to be a win now, playoff ready team. And they better have a decent backup.
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Let me preface this by saying I want nothing to do with Romo.
Who would the other potential suitors be?
Jets, Bears, Houston, Arizona, Browns, Bills?, 49ers?
Doesn't seem to be a lot of fits out there. Has to be a win now, playoff ready team. And they better have a decent backup.
I would think Denver would be the frontrunner....depending on what Vance Joseph thinks of Paxton Lynch.
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I don't think Denver would want him. The dude is more brittle than Humpty Dumpty. Romo is a great player but I would be a seller not a buyer at this point. He's played 5 games in two years, thanks but no thanks.
Edit: In fairness he would have played more than 1 game this year, so that 5 number would be higher, I am not sure how much higher though.
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I would think Denver would be the frontrunner....depending on what Vance Joseph thinks of Paxton Lynch.
I left Denver out because in the blurb I posted Rapoport says that "Denver doesn't seem inclined to make the move". I agree they would be the front runner though, and the rumor is that's where Romo wants to play
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I left Denver out because in the blurb I posted Rapoport says that "Denver doesn't seem inclined to make the move". I agree they would be the front runner though, and the rumor is that's where Romo wants to play
i hope the Hamilton tiger cats land him
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Dallas is set up for a big time run over these next few years, they are the most hated team in the sport (and the most loved) when they are good. we should prepare ourselves for some cowboy SBs unless Jerry Jones finds a way to screw it up.
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Dallas is set up for a big time run over these next few years, they are the most hated team in the sport (and the most loved) when they are good. we should prepare ourselves for some cowboy SBs unless Jerry Jones finds a way to screw it up.
Nah this was their year. They shoulda put Romo back in when they had the chance. The league will figure out Dak is a limited QB and they won't be able to keep their Oline together once they start to hit free agency. Smith and Frederick are locked up though. Their defense is below average and completely propped up by their running game. Their entire secondary besides byron jones are free agents this year and they have the least cap space in the NFL. jets are 2nd in that category.
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Nah this was their year. They shoulda put Romo back in when they had the chance. The league will figure out Dak is a limited QB and they won't be able to keep their Oline together once they start to hit free agency. Their defense is below average and completely propped up by their running game. Their entire secondary besides byron jones are free agents this year and they have the least cap space in the NFL. jets are 2nd in that category.
They did themselves a favor signing Tyron Smith to that 900 year contract. They have him on the cheap for years.
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Nah this was their year. They shoulda put Romo back in when they had the chance. The league will figure out Dak is a limited QB and they won't be able to keep their Oline together once they start to hit free agency. Smith and Frederick are locked up though. Their defense is below average and completely propped up by their running game. Their entire secondary besides byron jones are free agents this year and they have the least cap space in the NFL. jets are 2nd in that category.
what???? put Romo back in? did you see Dak play? have you watched Romo's career? will the league figure out Dak is limited like the league was going to figure the same thing about Brady in 2002?
they have issues on D, who knows if the ND guy will be able to contribute next year but they have the pieces to contend for many years.
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I love the way junc always sneaks Brady's name in to any post he makes.
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Trade Sheldon for Romo who says no
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I love the way junc always sneaks Brady's name in to any post he makes.
nothing to sneak, I heard the same nonsense back then and I fell for it too. Not saying Dak will become the greatest QB ever to play but he proved he can play this year and he was great in defeat the other day. this wasn't some peyton manning choke job, he gave his team a chance to win.
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I think Dallas will pay their OL at the expense of the defense. They have Dak and Zeke on rookie deals for the next few years. I can see them being perennial contenders until 2020.
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nothing to sneak, I heard the same nonsense back then and I fell for it too. Not saying Dak will become the greatest QB ever to play but he proved he can play this year and he was great in defeat the other day. this wasn't some peyton manning choke job, he gave his team a chance to win.
I wasn't disagreeing with you. Going with Romo at this point would have counter productive and wouldn't have helped at all.
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Nah this was their year. They shoulda put Romo back in when they had the chance. The league will figure out Dak is a limited QB and they won't be able to keep their Oline together once they start to hit free agency. Smith and Frederick are locked up though. Their defense is below average and completely propped up by their running game. Their entire secondary besides byron jones are free agents this year and they have the least cap space in the NFL. jets are 2nd in that category.
You're crazy for thinking they should have put Romo in the game, but I agree with you on your thinking that this was their year. It's very unlikely that all of your star players stay healthy through the season. Dak, Zeke, Bryant, Witten, and Williams, and their O-line were all healthy going into the playoffs. That won't happen next year. I also think that Dak is going to regress this upcoming season. We see it with most quarterbacks and are likely to see it with Dak. More tape means more to prep for and a better understanding of the teams preferences.
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I don't think they should have put Romo in that particular game. I just think he gave them a much better chance to win a SB this year.
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I don't think they should have put Romo in that particular game. I just think he gave them a much better chance to win a SB this year.
Romo is a solid starter, I don't think he has ever played as well as Dak played this year including that playoff game.
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How can anyone say Dallas wont be perennial contenders the next few years ?
Look at that division, its not good.
The Giants werent bad, but Eli isnt long for this league
I do agree that Dak could likely regress a little, but if Dallas can get another weapon in the passing game via the draft, that could be a dangerous offense for years to come
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Anyone who doesn't think Dak is for real is an idiot.
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Anyone who doesn't think Dak is for real is an idiot.
do you want him as a franchise keeper in Friars?
*trading post is open*
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Anyone who doesn't think Dak is for real is an idiot.
Why don't you just reply to my post directly, hoo-ha
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Why don't you just reply to my post directly, hoo-ha
Why don't you meet me outside of Applebee's?
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do you want him as a franchise keeper in Friars?
*trading post is open*
I'm content with Mariota.
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I'm content with Mariota.
dak is a 16th round franchise keeper.
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dak is a 16th round franchise keeper.
I know. That's phenomal value.
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I know. That's phenomal value.
i cant keep him as a franchise...not while le'veon bell draws breath.
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i cant keep him as a franchise...not while le'veon bell draws breath.
I get it. I've got Mariota as a 12th round franchise so I'm going to ride with him. I'm sure someone else will be interested in Dak.
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Why don't you meet me outside of Applebee's?
I would be honored. I've never been.
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Why don't you meet me outside of Applebee's?
PISCATAWAY APPLEBEES RUMBLE
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Anyone who doesn't think Dak is for real is an idiot.
Happy to place a bet against him
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Let me preface this by saying I want nothing to do with Romo.
Who would the other potential suitors be?
Jets, Bears, Browns, Houston?, Bills?, 49ers?
Doesn't seem to be a lot of fits out there. Has to be a win now, playoff ready team. And they better have a decent backup.
Took Arizona off the list. Palmer guaranteed 15.5 mill for this season
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michael lombardi @mlombardiNFL
Spoke w/ 2 teams that talked to the NFL office about the huddle call and both said it was a mistake. No deception on the part of D, no call
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Marginal call, IMO. I don't think there was any intended deception, but you can't have offensive players substituting out of the huddle because it completely fucks up the defense's ability to match personnel.
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I have not spoken to any club about this call. Longstanding rule that was last called in 2014 Week 8 WAS at DAL against WAS #82.
-Dean Blandino, NFL Senior Vice President of Officiating
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i cant keep him as a franchise...not while le'veon bell draws breath.
If I didnt aleady have Matt Ryan for peanuts going in to next season I would be extremely interested.
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PISCATAWAY APPLEBEES RUMBLE
was it piscataway or parsippany?
only asking because i would not be surprised whatsoever if it was in fact parsippany. shitty town where a majority of the people are scummy as hell, totally the type to challenge random people online to a fight at the local applebees
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was it piscataway or parsippany?
only asking because i would not be surprised whatsoever if it was in fact parsippany. shitty town where a majority of the people are scummy as hell, totally the type to challenge random people online to a fight at the local applebees
I'm from Parsippany. It's about half Indian, they don't really fight. Don't get out of the middle of the road when a car is coming, either.
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was it piscataway or parsippany?
only asking because i would not be surprised whatsoever if it was in fact parsippany. shitty town where a majority of the people are scummy as hell, totally the type to challenge random people online to a fight at the local applebees
To the best of my recollection, which is admittedly secondhand, it was Piscataway.
I think it was chosen as a neutral midpoint though.
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Jason Witten signed a four year extension.
His is one of the few non-Jets jerseys I'd be prepared to own.
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Jason Witten signed a four year extension.
His is one of the few non-Jets jerseys I'd be prepared to own.
fag
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fag
It would put the count to 3, alongside a Singletary Bears jersey and an LT Chargers.
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Jason Witten signed a four year extension.
His is one of the few non-Jets jerseys I'd be prepared to own.
fag
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fag
The other is Colin Kaepernick.
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The other is Colin Kaepernick.
Ha. But not really. He's hardly in the same pantheon as Singletary, Tomlinson and Witten. I'd put all of their jerseys on the wall because they're the players I've most enjoyed watching outside of the Jets.
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Rotojizz
TMZ Sports reports Cowboys suspended DE Randy Gregory failed another drug test.
Gregory is currently serving a suspension of at least one year for a previous failed test. TMZ Sports reports Gregory has "blown off" NFL officials since being notified of the failed test in March, and "people connected to Gregory" believe his NFL career might be over. If he did actually fail another test, his friends are likely correct. A second-round pick in 2015, Gregory has played in just 14 games in two seasons including just two last year because of injury and suspension.
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Cowboys DE Randy Gregory reportedly fails 7th NFL drug test
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Not sure why they even bother testing him anymore. Even if he became Mother Teresa tomorrow, he'll be suspended for 47 years.
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Zeke in trouble again
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Eventually teams will need to pay out bonuses for not getting into trouble.
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Zeke in trouble again
Sounds like he's a full fledged headcase
Reportedly sent a DJ to a hospital in an ambulance
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Sounds like he's a full fledged headcase
Reportedly sent a DJ to a hospital in an ambulance
He was probably playing Ed Sheeran
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RIP DJ MacBook
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Dak Prescott’s QB rating last night was 30.4. The passer rating for throwing every ball in the dirt is 39.6.
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Dak Prescott’s QB rating last night was 30.4. The passer rating for throwing every ball in the dirt is 39.6.
Dallas is the perfect example of the importance of a left tackle.
Tyron Smith’s injury has completely changed Prescott’s game.
OKORAFOR 2018
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How can anyone say Dallas wont be perennial contenders the next few years ?
Look at that division, its not good.
The Giants werent bad, but Eli isnt long for this league
I do agree that Dak could likely regress a little, but if Dallas can get another weapon in the passing game via the draft, that could be a dangerous offense for years to come
I accidentally opened a few pages back. This is a post I saw that made me laugh.
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NFL running back Darren McFadden alleged a financial advisor wrongfully took $3 million from him relating to a #Bitcoin venture. Had it actually been invested in Bitcoin, it would be worth about $237,000,000:
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Anyone who doesn't think Dak is for real is an idiot.
Bump
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Bump
That was litteraly like watching Petty.
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Bump
You're still an idiot.
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You're still an idiot.
Why?
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Why?
Limiting this discussion to Dak Prescott... His career completion percentage is 65.5, his career TD/int ratio is 2.6, and (most importantly) his career record is 21-10. Those numbers put him in a very exclusive class for second year QBs. Yes, he had a very bad game last night (the pick-6 was inexcusable) but he also played virtually the entire game without his left tackle against one of the top front sevens in the league. If you want to use last night's game to support your ridiculous argument that he's not a good quarterback, be my guest, but that should answer your question.
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Limiting the conversation to Dak Prescott... His career completion percentage is 65.5, his career TD/int ratio is 2.6, and (most importantly) his career record is 21-10. Those numbers put him in a very exclusive class for second year QBs. Yes, he had a very bad game last night (the pick 6 was egregious) but he also played virtually the entire game without his left tackle against one of the top front sevens in the league. If you want to use last night's game to support your ridiculous argument that he's not a good quarterback, be my guest, but that should answer your question.
see...cutting him from my fantasy team was genius
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see...cutting him from my fantasy team was genius
Pure genius, one of a kind.
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Pure genius, one of a kind.
just bask in it....like a ray of sunshine
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Dez Bryant, 29, has not had a 1,000-yard season since 2014 and has not had a 100-yard game since November 13, 2016
Yeeeesh
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Dez Bryant, 29, has not had a 1,000-yard season since 2014 and has not had a 100-yard game since November 13, 2016
Yeeeesh
his career went down the drain after he fvcked lisa ann
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Dez Bryant, 29, has not had a 1,000-yard season since 2014 and has not had a 100-yard game since November 13, 2016
Yeeeesh
Trade a 5th for him
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Trade a 5th for him
No way, he's poison.
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hes hot garbage now
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Meeting with Jerry on Friday. Cowboys Twitter seems to think he’s gone
-Cowboys sourcez re: Dez Bryant
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Cowboys expected to release WR Dev Bryant today, barring an unexpected last-minute change of heart, per @toddarcher and me. But the plan going into meeting that is now underway was to part ways with Bryant.
Schefter
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Cowboys have release Dez Bryant per Rapoport
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Dez walked out saying I'll see guys twice this year, I'm told. So that's that.
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Washington then, presumably.
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The #Cowboys did not offer Dez Bryant a paycut. They simply released him. And no post-June 1 designation. … It is simply a clean start for Dallas and the organization.
The Cowboys handled this very poorly
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I’m not sure what their plan is on offense. Where are the using the cap savings from Dez? Not very many FA’s available and presumably none that would make a big impact on offense. You have to assume they have Calvin Ridley/DJ Moore/Cortland Sutton near the top of their depth chart.
Their WR Depth Chart:
- Allen Hurns
- Terrance Williams
- Cole Beasley
- Ryan Switzer
- Deonte Thompson
- Noah Brown
- KD Cannon
- Lance Lenoir
I’m not sure how cutting Dez makes them a better team. He hasn’t produced enough to live up to his contract, but they’re better with him than without him.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/theadamsera/status/984837070026887168
Jamal Adams - won’t stop, can’t stop
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https://mobile.twitter.com/dezbryant/status/984838512187932675
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Maybe the Giants sign him and trade Beckham
Though I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign with the Patriots in an hour
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Maybe the Giants sign him and trade Beckham
Though I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign with the Patriots in an hour
I highly doubt the Giants trade Beckham. They'll get to a deal somewhere down the road.
Sounds like he wants to stay in the NFC East.
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Dez’s 2018 cap hit was $16.5M and they gained $8.5M of 2018 cap space by cutting him.
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Rumors floating that the Cowboys and Seattle are discussing a trade for Earl Thomas.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/dezbryant/status/1022973832406216705
This is the best
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https://mobile.twitter.com/dezbryant/status/1023014436733370368
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Travis Frederick has been diagnosed with Guillain-Barré Syndrome. Apparently it's an autoimmune syndrome and he has no timetable to return, but they caught it early so he's optimistic.
I have no idea whether this means he'll be ready for week 1, maybe back for the start of the 2019 season, or will probably never play again. I feel like we need d swordz expert opinion here.
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Travis Frederick has been diagnosed with Guillain-Barré Syndrome. Apparently it's an autoimmune syndrome and he has no timetable to return, but they caught it early so he's optimistic.
I have no idea whether this means he'll be ready for week 1, maybe back for the start of the 2019 season, or will probably never play again. I feel like we need d swordz expert opinion here.
I know a guy that was diagnosed with Guillain-Barre last year and he basically lost control of his limbs temporarily and had to be hospitalized for weeks at a time.
I'll be surprised if we see Frederick play a full season.
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I know a guy that was diagnosed with Guillain-Barre last year and he basically lost control of his limbs temporarily and had to be hospitalized for weeks at a time.
I'll be surprised if we see Frederick play a full season.
RIP Dak Prescott
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Send them Travis Swanson for 2 first rounders. His name is Travis too, it'll make the transition easier. It'll be fine, trust me.
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Send them Travis Swanson for 2 first rounders. His name is Travis too, it'll make the transition easier. It'll be fine, trust me.
It’s not just Frederick...Zack Martin is hurt too. That oline is fucked.
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It’s not just Frederick...Zack Martin is hurt too. That oline is fucked.
Jonotthan Harrison for just 1 first rounder? He can play both positions, I don't see why he can't do both at the same time....
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It’s not just Frederick...Zack Martin is hurt too. That oline is fucked.
@evansilva: #Cowboys interior Offensive Line:
C Travis Frederick - Season threatened by Guillan-Barre Syndrome
RG Zack Martin - Battling hypextended/bruised left knee
LG Connor Williams - Rookie whose play slipped at Texas from 2016 to 2017 has struggled in preseason, getting overpowered
@RossTuckerNFL: Their All Pro left tackle also has chronic back issues.
NFL comes at you fast.
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freak Jerry Jones and Zeke Elliott
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Connor Williams is garbage
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freak Jerry Jones and Zeke Elliott
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Dallas is set up for a big time run over these next few years, they are the most hated team in the sport (and the most loved) when they are good. we should prepare ourselves for some cowboy SBs unless Jerry Jones finds a way to screw it up.
K
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Travis Frederick has been diagnosed with Guillain-Barré Syndrome. Apparently it's an autoimmune syndrome and he has no timetable to return, but they caught it early so he's optimistic.
I have no idea whether this means he'll be ready for week 1, maybe back for the start of the 2019 season, or will probably never play again. I feel like we need d swordz expert opinion here.
learned about GBS back in med school, have never seen it clinically and i'm not a neurologist so this really isn't my field, but basically it's an ascending paralysis that can occur sometimes after certain GI illnesses. treatment includes meds that tinker with your immune system or filtering out the antibodies in your blood that are attacking your own nerves and muscles. severity can vary but basically he has a condition where his body is attacking his own muscles/nerves, with the biggest fear being involvement of the muscles responsible for breathing leading to respiratory failure.
obviously not examining him so don't know how severe his case is, but put it this way - this guy has a condition where his own body is attacking himself/weakening himself in a sport that depends on these athletes being at the very top of their condition in order to attain some level of success. the only way he'll come back to the field is if he has a positive treatment response and shows that he is back to full strength which is going to take time, and they'll be conservative until then. if i had to guess, would be a while before we saw him again
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learned about GBS back in med school, have never seen it clinically and i'm not a neurologist so this really isn't my field, but basically it's an ascending paralysis that can occur sometimes after certain GI illnesses. treatment includes meds that tinker with your immune system or filtering out the antibodies in your blood that are attacking your own nerves and muscles. severity can vary but basically he has a condition where his body is attacking his own muscles/nerves, with the biggest fear being involvement of the muscles responsible for breathing leading to respiratory failure.
obviously not examining him so don't know how severe his case is, but put it this way - this guy has a condition where his own body is attacking himself/weakening himself in a sport that depends on these athletes being at the very top of their condition in order to attain some level of success. the only way he'll come back to the field is if he has a positive treatment response and shows that he is back to full strength which is going to take time, and they'll be conservative until then. if i had to guess, would be a while before we saw him again
This is why we pay you.
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This is why we pay you.
Wait we pay that poopchute?
But in all seriousness that’s some excellent info to help us normal people understand what is happening with this disease
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Based on what I've read, they caught it early enough that he should make a full recovery.
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Wait we pay that poopchute?
You thought our annual requests for donations were to cover simple excrement like hosting?
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Based on what I've read, they caught it early enough that he should make a full recovery.
One of the biggest positives to taking a physical virtually all the time is that chances are anyone with a serious medical issue is going to get things identified early.
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d swordz just wiping the floor with dcm here
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d swordz just wiping the floor with dcm here
Dcm is preoccupied with North Dakota and Wisconsin
#WhichStateShouldILiveInGaiz
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Did anyone else watch the "All or Nothing" series with the Cowboys this year? It was truly a piece of crap. The only 2 things I got out of it are that Garrett likes to say "freak" alot, and that the Cowboys' practice facilities are other-worldly.
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They traded a first round pick for Amari Cooper. lmao Jerruh
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Lol lol lol
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My 2 good friends that are cowboys fans hate Cooper and have been trashing him for years
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a first round pick for a dude with the dropsies. Better them than us.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/cowboysstats/status/1056997449934561280
This made me lol
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Cowboys fired OC Scott Linehan
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Shocking news: Randy Gregory suspended again
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Shocking news: Randy Gregory suspended again
I really thought he was going to turn it around
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Lawrence gets new impressive deal.
5 years, 105 million, 65 guaranteed.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1114297044326322176
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Dallas and Zeke expected to agree and sign new contract by the end of the weekend.
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Comp update: Cowboys and OT La’el Collins reached agreement on a five-year, $50 million contract extension that includes $35 million guaranteed, per source. It’s the highest guarantee given to a right tackle.
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Cowboys, Ezekiel Elliott close in on a six-year, $90 million extension that would tie him to the team through 2026
PFT
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Cowboys, Ezekiel Elliott close in on a six-year, $90 million extension that would tie him to the team through 2026
PFT
Dude doesn't come close to being worth it.
Horrible move, maybe it'll work out as well for them as the Rams with Gurley
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Dude doesn't come close to being worth it.
Horrible move, maybe it'll work out as well for them as the Rams with Gurley
Based on what information are you determining this is a shitty contract?
You're providing a hot take on a contract that not only hasn't been finalized, but doesn't provide guaranteed money or details on out clauses. You at most have 20% of the information about the contract. Stop commenting on something you know nothing about!
If it's a 6 year 90 mil contract with an out clause after the first 2 years it's a bad contract?
If the contract is only guaranteed for 30 million is is a bad contract?
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Based on what information are you determining this is a shitty contract?
You're providing a hot take on a contract that not only hasn't been finalized, but doesn't provide guaranteed money or details on out clauses. You at most have 20% of the information about the contract. Stop commenting on something you know nothing about!
If it's a 6 year 90 mil contract with an out clause after the first 2 years it's a bad contract?
If the contract is only guaranteed for 30 million is is a bad contract?
Based on him already being under team control for the next 3 years already for an extremely team friendly amount.
So giving a guy a contract that even sniffs around the 15 million a year mark, 4 freaking seasons from now is insane. Yes he's the most important player on your team, but he's also one of the least valued positions in the league.
No running back should make that kind of money as an UFA. To give it to someone you can control for the next 3 years, no matter how cute you design it is a excrement move. I highly doubt zeke and his agent will get taken over with some ultra team friendly option anyway
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Based on him already being under team control for the next 3 years already for an extremely team friendly amount.
So giving a guy a contract that even sniffs around the 15 million a year mark, 4 freaking seasons from now is insane. Yes he's the most important player on your team, but he's also one of the least valued positions in the league.
No running back should make that kind of money as an UFA. To give it to someone you can control for the next 3 years, no matter how cute you design it is a excrement move. I highly doubt zeke and his agent will get taken over with some ultra team friendly option anyway
You've changed your argument from the amount getting paid, to paying Zeke at all.
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You've changed your argument from the amount getting paid, to paying Zeke at all.
My argument was the dude isn't worth it
He's not
Trade him or let him play out his current deal
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My argument was the dude isn't worth it
He's not
Trade him or let him play out his current deal
You're totally right the best rb in the league isnt worth a new contract.
Get out of here
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You're totally right the best rb in the league isnt worth a new contract.
Get out of here
Is Patrick Mahomes worth a 50-60 million a year extension right now?
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“Zeke & The Cowboys have agreed to a 6 year extension (adding $90m of new money) on top of the $3.85m and $9.099m he was owed in 2019 & 2020, making his current contract:
8 years ~$103m, about $12.875m per year, with about 50% guaranteed.
At $12.875m per
8 years, $103m, means $12.875m per year, slotting Zeke 4th in average annual value.”
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“Zeke & The Cowboys have agreed to a 6 year extension (adding $90m of new money) on top of the $3.85m and $9.099m he was owed in 2019 & 2020, making his current contract:
8 years ~$103m, about $12.875m per year, with about 50% guaranteed.
At $12.875m per
8 years, $103m, means $12.875m per year, slotting Zeke 4th in average annual value.”
Thats pretty reasonable for the best rb in the league.
Congrats on the wedding Btw
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I don’t think it’s worth giving a RB this kind of money. You can get 75% production for 25% cost.
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I don’t think it’s worth giving a RB this kind of money. You can get 75% production for 25% cost.
I wouldn't want to pay Zeke that type of money if I was paying Darnold $30mil a year, but Dak is a JAG, without Zeke he is nothing. I'm more interested to see what they give Dak.
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I wouldn't want to pay Zeke that type of money if I was paying Darnold $30mil a year, but Dak is a JAG, without Zeke he is nothing. I'm more interested to see what they give Dak.
Agreed, the real question is how much are they committing to Dak and Zeke. If they are committing $30 million to both, it’s a good deal. If it’s 50 million or more then they are going nowhere
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“Zeke & The Cowboys have agreed to a 6 year extension (adding $90m of new money) on top of the $3.85m and $9.099m he was owed in 2019 & 2020, making his current contract:
8 years ~$103m, about $12.875m per year, with about 50% guaranteed.
At $12.875m per
8 years, $103m, means $12.875m per year, slotting Zeke 4th in average annual value.”
But he's already under contract for the next 2 years plus the tag option.
Which means instead of having him for 3 years 22 million, or whatever they would've paid, they're now getting him for 8 years 100 million.
Maybe I'm crazy but I don't think 5 years of Zeke is worth around 80 million
And I'm definitely not committing that to him when you just see what injuries did to Gurley
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And Dak is getting a monster deal
Maybe they can get by with a lower guaranteed number but he's still ending up with north of 30 million a year.
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If the Cowboys were smart they’d trade Dak. He sucks.
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But he's already under contract for the next 2 years plus the tag option.
That's irrevelant when he was going to sit out for the season.
The cowboys have the most talented starting 22 in the league. They need to strike while the iron is hot and Zeke used that to his advantage in contract negotiations.
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That's irrevelant when he was going to sit out for the season.
The cowboys have the most talented starting 22 in the league. They need to strike while the iron is hot and Zeke used that to his advantage in contract negotiations.
And then sit out the following season and the season after?
Someone like Bell can sit out for a year. Zeke can't sit out for 3 to 4 years (with the option of tagging him back to back)
Honestly I hope this shits addressed in the next CBA.
Rookies shouldn't even be allowed to do thus excrement
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Rookies shouldn't even be allowed to do thus excrement
Not a big believer in the 13th Amendment, huh?
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Rookies shouldn't even be allowed to do thus excrement
I don't think you know how capitalism works...
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I don't think you know how capitalism works...
no such thing for rookies.
For freak sake he plays a position with hardly a shelf life, let him get all the money he can when he can because he will be lucky to walk right when he's older.
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no such thing for rookies.
For freak sake he plays a position with hardly a shelf life, let him get all the money he can when he can because he will be lucky to walk right when he's older.
I used to hold the whole "they should play for what they originally agreed to" viewpoint, but not anymore. Firstly, teams can cut a player and that guy loses loads--if not all--of that contract's cash. If ownership doesn't have to honor the contract, why should the players? But beyond that, these guys have short shelf lives (everyone but Brady is long gone by 40), and practically all of them have brain and/or physical problems the rest of their lives.
Like you said, let him get every dime he can, while he can. I doubt it's going to make it a hardship for Jerry to serve a Thanksgiving feast (while his players put their health on the line for his enjoyment and profit).
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Not a big believer in the 13th Amendment, huh?
Yeah paying rookie football players tens of millions of dollars is paramount to slavery.
The struggle is real
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Yeah paying rookie football players tens of millions of dollars is paramount to slavery.
The struggle is real
Somebody PLEASE think of the owners!!!!!1one
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I used to hold the whole "they should play for what they originally agreed to" viewpoint, but not anymore. Firstly, teams can cut a player and that guy loses loads--if not all--of that contract's cash. If ownership doesn't have to honor the contract, why should the players? But beyond that, these guys have short shelf lives (everyone but Brady is long gone by 40), and practically all of them have brain and/or physical problems the rest of their lives.
Like you said, let him get every dime he can, while he can. I doubt it's going to make it a hardship for Jerry to serve a Thanksgiving feast (while his players put their health on the line for his enjoyment and profit).
As long as there are cap floors and what not, we're not talking about the money going into the owners pocket. As I could give a freak about them. But when one player does excrement like this, not only is it a disservice to the fans (having star players holdout, miss games, be rusty etc) it takes money out of other players pockets. I'm sorry but a guy with 3 years left on his rookie deal shouldn't be getting his new contract eating up money thst could go to a vet.
That said I think the NFL's CBA is just pretty shitty. If they put stronger things in place to prevent rookies from holding out, but also things to prevent teams from franchise tagging them after their rookie option, that could be an improvement.
Also i don't think guaranteed contracts improve the game. If you give a player a monster contract and he plays like dog excrement, should you really have to continue paying them for 5 or 6 years? Or should the money be able to go to someone more deserving? If anything just raise the spending floor, don't guarantee contracts (except maybe for injury)
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Somebody PLEASE think of the owners!!!!!1one
Raise the spending floor significantly then. It's not about money going to owners. But Rookies shouldn't be able to make a power play over the leagues vets.
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As long as there are cap floors and what not, we're not talking about the money going into the owners pocket. As I could give a freak about them. But when one player does excrement like this, not only is it a disservice to the fans (having star players holdout, miss games, be rusty etc) it takes money out of other players pockets. I'm sorry but a guy with 3 years left on his rookie deal shouldn't be getting his new contract eating up money thst could go to a vet.
That said I think the NFL's CBA is just pretty shitty. If they put stronger things in place to prevent rookies from holding out, but also things to prevent teams from franchise tagging them after their rookie option, that could be an improvement.
Also i don't think guaranteed contracts improve the game. If you give a player a monster contract and he plays like dog excrement, should you really have to continue paying them for 5 or 6 years? Or should the money be able to go to someone more deserving? If anything just raise the spending floor, don't guarantee contracts (except maybe for injury)
You live in a fairy tale world.
- The players owe the fans nothing. They should try to get as much money as possible while they can.
- Unlike any other sport their contracts aren't guaranteed.
- Unlike any other profession their is a cap on how much they can make when they enter the labor force.
Stop acting like if you were in their shoes youd be a choir boy and be okay with being the best player at the position and being the MVP of your team, but getting paid less than backups and special teamers.
It's a joke.
The contracts mean nothing. Zeke had leverage and he used it just like he should have. Dallas paid him because they know they need him.
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Seriousness aside, I guaeantee you JJ is betting that Zeke does something stupid before his contract is up and he can void the deal.
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You live in a fairy tale world.
- The players owe the fans nothing. They should try to get as much money as possible while they can.
- Unlike any other sport their contracts aren't guaranteed.
- Unlike any other profession their is a cap on how much they can make when they enter the labor force.
Stop acting like if you were in their shoes youd be a choir boy and be okay with being the best player at the position and being the MVP of your team, but getting paid less than backups and special teamers.
It's a joke.
The contracts mean nothing. Zeke had leverage and he used it just like he should have. Dallas paid him because they know they need him.
I'm not talking about altruism.
Zeke was selfish and did what's best for him and it worked out. I'm saying the league has to step in and design it so this bullshit doesn't happen.
If Darnold has a great season this year, I don't want him holding out for a 40 million a year extension. There's no way this team could be competive if Darnold and Adams both needed 60 million a year between the two of them.
Give the players something they want to make it fair, but don't let freaking rookie contracts hold out for new contracts.
And there's plenty of professions that have a cap on what they can make. It's called government jobs, there's a ton of them. I'm sure plenty of corporations have their own ladders and bullshit with the same rules.
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Yeah paying rookie football players tens of millions of dollars is paramount to slavery.
The struggle is real
Look up "involuntary servitude" in your dictionary.
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I used to hold the whole "they should play for what they originally agreed to" viewpoint, but not anymore. Firstly, teams can cut a player and that guy loses loads--if not all--of that contract's cash. If ownership doesn't have to honor the contract, why should the players? But beyond that, these guys have short shelf lives (everyone but Brady is long gone by 40), and practically all of them have brain and/or physical problems the rest of their lives.
Like you said, let him get every dime he can, while he can. I doubt it's going to make it a hardship for Jerry to serve a Thanksgiving feast (while his players put their health on the line for his enjoyment and profit).
I agree with the principle that players should look to get as much as they can in general, because why not? Both sides can and should do it.
But I don't think cutting a player is really the same as not honoring a contract. That's the whole point of the guarantee stipulations, both sides are aware of the possibility of an early termination, the non-guaranteed latter parts of a deal becomes similar to a team option in effect.
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I can give two shits if a player makes 41 million or 53 million. As a fan I want the best players on my team and at the best value possible. The rest of that excrement I don’t care about. If you guys wanna go back to the Revis hold out days be my guest. You can message them on Twitter and Instagram with cute excrement like “get that bag” and “you get yours fam” while sitting at your 5 figure job worrying about multi millionaires
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I'm saying the league has to step in and design it so this bullshit doesn't happen.
But, why? Zeke outplayed his contract and it worked itself out. If Zeke wasn't worth it, the Cowboys wouldn't have gave him more money, and would have told him to sit out if he really felt that way ala Melvin Gordon.
What you're asking for is crazy. Literally making a player play when he doesn't want to.
If anything needs to be done, it should be the teams giving up power not the other way around.
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But, why? Zeke outplayed his contract and it worked itself out. If Zeke wasn't worth it, the Cowboys wouldn't have gave him more money, and would have told him to sit out if he really felt that way ala Melvin Gordon.
What you're asking for is crazy. Literally making a player play when he doesn't want to.
If anything needs to be done, it should be the teams giving up power not the other way around.
Should the Vikings get a refund for Laquon Treadwell? Let’s not pretend Zeke is a UDFA. The guy was a top 5 pick and his contract reflects that. He’s within his right to hold out I guess but I don’t sympathize with him when he continuously has off field concerns
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Should the Vikings get a refund for Laquon Treadwell? Let’s not pretend Zeke is a UDFA. The guy was a top 5 pick and his contract reflects that. He’s within his right to hold out I guess but I don’t sympathize with him when he continuously has off field concerns
The dude is an asshat, but the point is the system works.
Zeke wanted a new deal, and he got paid.
Melvin Gordon wanted a new deal and he didnt.
Bell wanted a new deal and he had to wait a year to get it.
If the system is broken it's not in the direction of the owners it's in the direction of the players. Why is there a cap on how much the rookies get paid? It's to protect the owners...
Even the concept of a draft is asinine outside of sports.
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The dude is an asshat, but the point is the system works.
Zeke wanted a new deal, and he got paid.
Melvin Gordon wanted a new deal and he didnt.
Bell wanted a new deal and he had to wait a year to get it.
If the system is broken it's not in the direction of the owners it's in the direction of the players. Why is there a cap on how much the rookies get paid? It's to protect the owners...
Even the concept of a draft is asinine outside of sports.
The draft is for the fans
The nfl would look like the NBA without it
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Still think it's a stupid contract, but apparently the Cowboys can void almost all the guaranteed money if Zeke gets suspended or has another off the field incident
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Why is there a cap on how much the rookies get paid? It's to protect the owners...
The rookie cap was implemented because the rookie contracts towards the end there became obscene
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I used to hold the whole "they should play for what they originally agreed to" viewpoint, but not anymore. Firstly, teams can cut a player and that guy loses loads--if not all--of that contract's cash. If ownership doesn't have to honor the contract, why should the players? But beyond that, these guys have short shelf lives (everyone but Brady is long gone by 40), and practically all of them have brain and/or physical problems the rest of their lives.
Like you said, let him get every dime he can, while he can. I doubt it's going to make it a hardship for Jerry to serve a Thanksgiving feast (while his players put their health on the line for his enjoyment and profit).
Pretty much
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Still think it's a stupid contract, but apparently the Cowboys can void almost all the guaranteed money if Zeke gets suspended or has another off the field incident
dcm industriously researching ways JJ can keep his money
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The nfl would look like the NBA without it
What does that even mean?
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The rookie cap was implemented because the rookie contracts towards the end there became obscene
You are missing the point. In what other line of work is your job placement chosen for you and your salary capped?
The whole reason it's done is to protect the owners from overspending. We've grown up with it so its normal, but this doesnt happen with sports in other countries.
Players should try to make as much money as they can, if they can.
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Still think it's a stupid contract, but apparently the Cowboys can void almost all the guaranteed money if Zeke gets suspended or has another off the field incident
What do you know a contract that averages ~$11mil a year, has only 30% guaranteed, and can be voided if he missteps. Sounds like a pretty good deal for the cowboys if you ask me. Not to mention he's going to get cut before he sees the highest paying years because the guaranteed money is minimal then.
The cowboys needed to get him on the field and they did for a reasonable price.
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You are missing the point. In what other line of work is your job placement chosen for you and your salary capped?
The whole reason it's done is to protect the owners from overspending. We've grown up with it so its normal, but this doesnt happen with sports in other countries.
Players should try to make as much money as they can, if they can.
The militarily
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Why are we arguing with dcm? Why
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The militarily
Although this is a good point
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Although this is a good point
hahaha
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Does Garrett even make the plane ride home with the way this is going?
Talk about pissing away talent.
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Does Garrett even make the plane ride home with the way this is going?
Talk about pissing away talent.
It's Gase's fault, he doesn't know how to use Elliott.
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It's Gase's fault, he doesn't know how to use Elliott.
Using Garrett to poke fun at how people feel about Gase doesn't make the point you think it does.
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Using Garrett to poke fun at how people feel about Gase doesn't make the point you think it does.
Nobody should ever be fired in Seafood's world. In his mind, Weeb Eubank's corpse should still be coaching the Jets.
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Nobody should ever be fired in Seafood's world. In his mind, Weeb Eubank's corpse should still be coaching the Jets.
Says the guy who wants to fire everybody.
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Says the guy who wants to fire everybody.
Nope...just the bums we hire. You know, because they’re bums.
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Glazer is reporting Mike McCarthy is the Cowboys new HC.
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Glazer is reporting Mike McCarthy is the Cowboys new HC.
He's their type of coach, not trendy just stable.
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good hire. i wonder how that feels...
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good hire. i wonder how that feels...
Exactly.
Any chance he's going to make the offense worse, like Gase did to ours?
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good hire. i wonder how that feels...
Funny, nobody here wanted him last year when he was available and we were hiring. I'd have preferred him over Gase, granted all I really knew about Gase was he coached Miami and I hate everything related to them.
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One of the reasons I'm so dismissive of the anti-Gase crowd is because they wanted this fat oaf.
No thanks.
"Gase was dragged to any success he had by Manning" say the people who wanted the guy who's career was made entirely by a generational quarterback. One that he didn't even want when he had the opportunity as a meaningful voice to either advocate for him or the immortal Alex Smith, (don't get me wrong, Smith turned out to be a solid, if unspectacular NFL quarterback before his leg was snapped).
I can't believe the Cowboys made a lateral move away from one of the biggest underachievers relative to their talent, but here we are. The only difference between Garret and McCarthy is that one had Aaron Rodgers and didn't get screwed out of advancing in a year they could've won the super bowl by a horrible call.
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Funny, nobody here wanted him last year when he was available and we were hiring.
One of the reasons I'm so dismissive of the anti-Gase crowd is because they wanted this fat oaf.
well which is it fellas?
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well which is it fellas?
I don't remember too many people saying we should hire him. I posted when he was available late last season and the reaction I got was he can stay available. I wasn't necessarily saying go get him but he seemed to be an experienced, offensive guy who had some wins and playoffs on his resume, which is what I thought people were wanting.
The threads are there, nice thing about this site, we can go back and see how wrong everybody always is.
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I don't mind McCarthy. He did pretty well with a QB who is hella talented but something of an poopchute, and a roster that was never terrible but rarely great.
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They should make interviewing Jason Garrett part of the Rooney rule just because.
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@AdamSchefter
New Cowboys’ HC Mike McCarthy stayed over Jerry Jones’ house on Saturday night, per source. “Once you stay at Jerrry’s house, he doesn’t lose his guy,” said source.
Jerry must have a huge dick
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wait that means jerry didnt fire garrett until he had already fucked mike. what a scumbag.
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@AdamSchefter
New Cowboys’ HC Mike McCarthy stayed over Jerry Jones’ house on Saturday night, per source. “Once you stay at Jerrry’s house, he doesn’t lose his guy,” said source.
Jerry must have a huge dick
Maybe he's just very romantic.
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garrett was cuckolded and clapped the whole time
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well which is it fellas?
I never wanted him. I was on record at this place repeatedly with my top priority being Jimmy Harbs. When it became obvious he wasn't leaving Michigan, I wasn't crazy about any of the possibilities, but put Gase ahead of guys like Monken and McCarthy. Todd Monken will likely be out of a job after a season in which he allegedly was badmouthing his boss to outsiders. The team McCarthy got fired from just went 13-3 with largely the same personnel outside of za'darius smith.
I was intrigued by Rhule, I saw a lot of him at Temple. But if the front office didn't have faith in letting him pick his staff (and ironically, that demand may have cost Mac his job), it was never going to work.
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I never wanted him. I was on record at this place repeatedly with my top priority being Jimmy Harbs. When it became obvious he wasn't leaving Michigan, I wasn't crazy about any of the possibilities, but put Gase ahead of guys like Monken and McCarthy. Todd Monken will likely be out of a job after a season in which he allegedly was badmouthing his boss to outsiders. The team McCarthy got fired from just went 13-3 with largely the same personnel outside of za'darius smith.
I was intrigued by Rhule, I saw a lot of him at Temple. But if the front office didn't have faith in letting him pick his staff (and ironically, that demand may have cost Mac his job), it was never going to work.
Gase should be gone by this time next year.
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well which is it fellas?
Some people wanted him and some didn't.
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I never wanted him. I was on record at this place repeatedly with my top priority being Jimmy Harbs. When it became obvious he wasn't leaving Michigan, I wasn't crazy about any of the possibilities, but put Gase ahead of guys like Monken and McCarthy. Todd Monken will likely be out of a job after a season in which he allegedly was badmouthing his boss to outsiders. The team McCarthy got fired from just went 13-3 with largely the same personnel outside of za'darius smith.
I was intrigued by Rhule, I saw a lot of him at Temple. But if the front office didn't have faith in letting him pick his staff (and ironically, that demand may have cost Mac his job), it was never going to work.
Wait I just realized that we finished with a better record than the browns. freak the browns and baker
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Apparently Dak turned down 33 million a year.
We don't know the all-important guarantees that deal would've entailed, but if I'm the Cowboys there's no way I'm giving him a bigger AAV. Let him play under the tag this year and show he can do it again.
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Apparently Dak turned down 33 million a year.
We don't know the all-important guarantees that deal would've entailed, but if I'm the Cowboys there's no way I'm giving him a bigger AAV. Let him play under the tag this year and show he can do it again.
Dak is going to be Goff 2.0
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Dak is going to be Goff 2.0
I don't know if I dare ask, but.... what exactly do you think that Prescott and Goff have in common?
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I don't know if I dare ask, but.... what exactly do you think that Prescott and Goff have in common?
QB's whose strong running games and offensive talent around them make them look good and far better than they are. And once they both get astronomical contracts they're going to be catastrophic QB contracts that cripple their franchises
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dak turned down 33 million a freaking year, and dallas is like, "ok, youve done nothing at all, youve earned it. heres more money"
honestly, let the freaking guy walk. sign brady and draft a qb, freak it
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dak turned down 33 million a freaking year, and dallas is like, "ok, youve done nothing at all, youve earned it. heres more money"
honestly, let the freaking guy walk. sign brady and draft a qb, freak it
Or they can just punish him with the tag till he caves
He don't want the carrot beatem with the stick
Franchise tag for QB's is like 26 million
Tagging him back to back would certainly be less than 66 million
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i don't think dak has an issue with the annual value of the deal, it's the guaranteed money that's the sticking point. he's getting offered less than some of the last several 'big' QB contracts have been handed out in terms of guaranteed money. he's not happy with the 105. a guy like wentz got 108 a couple of years ago
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Well with back to back tagging him the guaranteed money goes to excrement too
Regardless their options are wildly overpay a mediocre QB or play hardball.
Or try to trade him, which is a far more complicated and unrealistic scenario.
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I wouldn’t sign Dak for 23 million let alone 33 million
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Cowboys have offered Dak a five-year, $175M deal that would make him the highest-paid QB ever, per @CSimmsQB.
That’s $35M annually.
Dak reportedly wants “north of $45M” in the last year.
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Someone check on dcm, is he ok?
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Cowboys have offered Dak a five-year, $175M deal that would make him the highest-paid QB ever, per @CSimmsQB.
That’s $35M annually.
Dak reportedly wants “north of $45M” in the last year.
That would give him an AAV for the first four years of $32.5M. Assuming the fifth year number doesn't have any kind of guaranteed amount then that might not be a terrible deal for the Cowboys - it's similar money to Wentz and Goff. It's kinda what you have to pay for a franchise QB.
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That would give him an AAV for the first four years of $32.5M. Assuming the fifth year number doesn't have any kind of guaranteed amount then that might not be a terrible deal for the Cowboys - it's similar money to Wentz and Goff. It's kinda what you have to pay for a franchise QB.
As ridiculous as it is... that’s a reasonable # for a top 3-5 QB in the league. Now weather you think Dak is in the group or not, that’s a different argument.
I wouldn’t give Dak that money. But we will be in a very similar situation in 3 years with Sam, except his deal will be pushing $40 million dollars a year. Hopefully Sam continues to progress so much that it’s a no brained for us
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That would give him an AAV for the first four years of $32.5M. Assuming the fifth year number doesn't have any kind of guaranteed amount then that might not be a terrible deal for the Cowboys - it's similar money to Wentz and Goff. It's kinda what you have to pay for a franchise QB.
Dak turned down that deal though. Right? Or else we would be talking about him signing it. The way I read that tweet is that he wants a minimum of $37M per year.
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As ridiculous as it is... that’s a reasonable # for a top 3-5 QB in the league. Now weather you think Dak is in the group or not, that’s a different argument.
I wouldn’t give Dak that money. But we will be in a very similar situation in 3 years with Sam, except his deal will be pushing $40 million dollars a year. Hopefully Sam continues to progress so much that it’s a no brained for us
even though I am not a meteorologist, there is no way in hell Dak is a top 3-5 QB, other than maybe in his own division.
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Just tank and draft the Clemson kid. Better QB and 1/5 the cost for 4 years.
/Twitterdunce
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even though I am not a meteorologist, there is no way in hell Dak is a top 3-5 QB, other than maybe in his own division.
Top 5 contracts are Wilson, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Goff and Cousins. I think two of them are top 5 players. It's very rare for the five highest paid to be the five best players. If Dak gets his $37M a year, I give it two years before he's no longer in the top five contracts - Mahomes, Jackson, Watson, probably Mayfield, possibly Allen, possibly Murray and hopefully Darnold will all have overtaken him.
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Top 5 contracts are Wilson, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Goff and Cousins. I think two of them are top 5 players. It's very rare for the five highest paid to be the five best players. If Dak gets his $37M a year, I give it two years before he's no longer in the top five contracts - Mahomes, Jackson, Watson, probably Mayfield, possibly Allen, possibly Murray and hopefully Darnold will all have overtaken him.
Baker Mayfield sucks
I would take Dak Prescott over Deshaun Watson too
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Baker Mayfield sucks
I would take Dak Prescott over Deshaun Watson too
Right, but my point is that the QB contract size is not directly proportionate to the ability of the QB, but to their importance to the team. Barring something major happening such as a major injury, a significant off field issue or a complete collapse in form, there's no way that Mayfield isn't getting a monster long term contract from the Browns. Same is true for Allen.
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Sounds like Prescott is going to turn down the Cowboys' final offer and play on the tag this year.
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Ha Ha Clinton-Dix released.
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Ha Ha Clinton-Dix released.
haha
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haha
It's always annoyed me that we drafted Pryor over Dix, and frankly they both have been huge disappointments over the years, but Ha Ha at least is still in the league today.
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Sounds like Tyron Smith is done for the year.
La’el Collins is likely facing hip surgery and will be out for year.
Travis Frederick retired in the offseason.
Ooooof.
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
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Cowboys’ HC Mike McCarthy announced that LT Tyron Smith is our for the season due to a neck injury that will require surgery next week.
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Gase'd
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They’re gonna play Zack Martin at one of the tackle positions
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They’re gonna play Zack Martin at one of the tackle positions
It works in madden
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NFL Network's Jane Slater reports Cowboys players have begun forcefully criticizing the coaching staff after originally agreeing to "keep things internal."
“Totally unprepared," were the words of one player. "They don’t teach. They don’t have any sense of adjusting on the fly.” Another added “they just aren’t good at their jobs." Other than that, we hope things are going well. New coach Mike McCarthy sold an offseason narrative of coming into the 21st century and learning analytics, but none of the analytics in the world can make up for having Mike Nolan as your defensive coordinator. The Cowboys have allowed an astonishing 218 points through their first six games, which is tied for the fourth most in NFL history. Dak Prescott's season-ending ankle injury gives McCarthy an alibi, but this could turn into a one-and-done situation. It wouldn't be the first time with a retread. Of course, all of this ignores that the 2-4 Cowboys still sit atop the horrid NFC East.
SBTG
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NFL Network's Jane Slater reports Cowboys players have begun forcefully criticizing the coaching staff after originally agreeing to "keep things internal."
“Totally unprepared," were the words of one player. "They don’t teach. They don’t have any sense of adjusting on the fly.” Another added “they just aren’t good at their jobs." Other than that, we hope things are going well. New coach Mike McCarthy sold an offseason narrative of coming into the 21st century and learning analytics, but none of the analytics in the world can make up for having Mike Nolan as your defensive coordinator. The Cowboys have allowed an astonishing 218 points through their first six games, which is tied for the fourth most in NFL history. Dak Prescott's season-ending ankle injury gives McCarthy an alibi, but this could turn into a one-and-done situation. It wouldn't be the first time with a retread. Of course, all of this ignores that the 2-4 Cowboys still sit atop the horrid NFC East.
SOURCE: Jane Slater on Twitter
SBTG
Ah you fuckers
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https://twitter.com/nfl_memes/status/1318581415664078848?s=21
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https://twitter.com/nfl_memes/status/1318581415664078848?s=21
'Murica
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https://twitter.com/nfl_memes/status/1318581415664078848?s=21
Murica.
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'Murica
Goddammit today is not my day
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Goddammit today is not my day
(https://i.imgur.com/ixhwsXt.gif)
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Goddammit today is not my day
Hahahaha
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https://twitter.com/jonmachota/status/1320459163986780161?s=19
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Bell's first run goes for 16.
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Pats will trade Cam to the Cowboys and tank out.
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Bell's first run goes for 16.
RIP Herman Cain
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Bell's first run goes for 16.
Still only has 19 yards.
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Still only has 19 yards.
saving him for next week's bloodbath.
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
Trade! #Cowboys DE Everson Griffen is being traded to the #Lions in exchange for draft pick compensation, sources say. Detroit, winners of two in a row, is added a big-time veteran pass-rusher.
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Didn't they just sign him this offseason?
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And “big time pass rusher” is a bit much for this stage of his career.
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So I guess the Cowboys aren't trading a high pick for Sam Darnold after all.
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Dalton ruled out for tomorrow
Ben DiNucci SZN
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Dalton ruled out for tomorrow
Ben DiNucci SZN
Nucci Mane
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https://twitter.com/B_DiNucci6/status/238137978512359424?s=19
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I thought this was a joke tweet
https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1330989176733495296?s=21
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I thought this was a joke tweet
https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1330989176733495296?s=21
Next he just needs to have his brother coach the team for him and then sue his brother when he becomes more successful.
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Not really a lol at all, but apparently they called EMS to their facility yesterday morning for an emergency incident involving their S&C coach Markus Paul and subsequently canceled all practices and press conferences. Guy died in hospital yesterday evening.
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What awful freaking news.
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What awful freaking news.
Yeah. Heart attack apparently, not covid related. But if I read the stories correctly there were players and staff around when it happened, that's going to shake you up.
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Wow, sad news. He was on the Jets for a while.
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Jay Glazer
@JayGlazer
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Breaking news the Dallas Cowboys have fired defensive coordinator Mike Nolan @NFLonFOX
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https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dak-prescott-wants-cowboys-to-pay-him-right-behind-mahomes-and-pay-him-respect-report
Quite apart from the fact that I'm not sure he's good enough to be demanding to be paid like the second best QB in the league, I wonder what Dallas do here. If he digs his heels in as he seems inclined to do, do you really want to tag him for $37M when you just paid him $31M on the tag to be injured for most of the season? If you do, and he stays healthy and plays well, he has you over a barrel next spring because he can walk and you can't tag him again.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dak-prescott-wants-cowboys-to-pay-him-right-behind-mahomes-and-pay-him-respect-report
Quite apart from the fact that I'm not sure he's good enough to be demanding to be paid like the second best QB in the league, I wonder what Dallas do here. If he digs his heels in as he seems inclined to do, do you really want to tag him for $37M when you just paid him $31M on the tag to be injured for most of the season? If you do, and he stays healthy and plays well, he has you over a barrel next spring because he can walk and you can't tag him again.
that's a ballsy demand coming off a serious injury. I'm still not convinced this guy isn't a product of his supporting cast.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dak-prescott-wants-cowboys-to-pay-him-right-behind-mahomes-and-pay-him-respect-report
Quite apart from the fact that I'm not sure he's good enough to be demanding to be paid like the second best QB in the league, I wonder what Dallas do here. If he digs his heels in as he seems inclined to do, do you really want to tag him for $37M when you just paid him $31M on the tag to be injured for most of the season? If you do, and he stays healthy and plays well, he has you over a barrel next spring because he can walk and you can't tag him again.
If I'm Dallas I'd talk to Seattle about sending him for a QB swap
Dak is out of his mind
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If I'm Dallas I'd talk to Seattle about sending him for a QB swap
Dak is out of his mind
I have no idea if the numbers work, but that's actually not the most stupid idea you've ever come up with.
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I have no idea if the numbers work, but that's actually not the most stupid idea you've ever come up with.
Both light-skinned black guys. Checks out.
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I have no idea if the numbers work, but that's actually not the most stupid idea you've ever come up with.
I most certainly didn't come up with it, but it makes a lot of sense for both teams.
Dallas has a prime window and Seattle needs picks and should probably consider a small rebuild anyway with that mess of a division
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they should let him go freak off and demand that money anywhere else and see what happens.
dak prescott freaking sucks dicks
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they should let him go freak off and demand that money anywhere else and see what happens.
dak prescott freaking sucks dicks
For a team who doesn't have a QB it's not the worst thing imaginable.
If we traded Darnold, traded back from #2, and made Dak the 2nd highest paid QB in the league we'd probably be a legit contender pretty freaking fast
Hell signing Dak off the street would probably be better for this franchise than giving up 4 1sts for Watson.
Obviously there's a 0 chance of this actually happening
And he's in no way shape or form the 2nd best QB in the league. Dallas just mishandled his contract monumentally so they're getting pretty fucked
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Cowboys signed Dak
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Jerry got freaking deep dicked by dak, Jesus Christ.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210309/d50c3f367770a671e6f2c42a28d9b61b.jpg)
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Dak's a bum
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Jerry got freaking deep dicked by dak, Jesus Christ.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210309/d50c3f367770a671e6f2c42a28d9b61b.jpg)
I'm assuming 75 million in year 1 means 66 million signing bonus plus 9m base salary?
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I'm assuming 75 million in year 1 means 66 million signing bonus plus 9m base salary?
66 + 9 = 21
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66 + 9 = 21
You stupid (https://youtu.be/_AHpRNJLamc)
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Cowboys restructured Martin, Smith, and Collins to create $17M in cap room, good for them
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NFL Update
@MySportsUpdate
#Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on Dak Prescott: “If anyone has ever taken advantage of me financially, I’m proud it’s the one sitting next to me on the right (Dak).”
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1369738594122883072
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Sean Lee retired
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r/PeopleYouForgotWereStillInTheLeague
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Michael Gehlken
@GehlkenNFL
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Cowboys will be without RG Zack Martin for Thursday’s season opener vs. Buccaneers. He tested positive for COVID-19, Mike McCarthy said. Brutal development for team.
RT La’el Collins (neck) will practice today.
Michael Gehlken
@GehlkenNFL
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Eight Cowboys players have been added to Reserve/COVID-19 in the past 16 days, two more players than all of last year combined. Five of those eight the result of a positive test. Other three were close contacts.
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Dak has been pronounced dead before the game.
Prediction: Zeke- 20 rushes for 25 yards, does stupid eating celebration 20 times.
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La'el Collins suspended 5 games for violation of NFL substance abuse policy.
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1442092069842006016?s=19
https://twitter.com/jonchen50/status/1442093299842666496?s=19
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So this dude was so guilty he bribed a collector somehow gets suspension smaller than the standard four games for his actions. Then he appeals his suspension and it ends up being only the same length as someone else who got caught.
In my opinion this should be a worse suspension.
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AFAIK it's a bit of an unprecedented situation. But the punishment for bribery should. Absolutely be significantly worse than if he got caught using PEDs.
5 games is a week punishment, he should be out the year
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https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1445550009521348616?t=Cn1SyyNQpc_2j6NgkYFZCQ&s=19
Is he shitty now or what?
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https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1445550009521348616?t=Cn1SyyNQpc_2j6NgkYFZCQ&s=19
Is he shitty now or what?
There's got to be more to the story. I'm reading that Cowboys fans think his play has fallen off a cliff, but to outright release him in the middle of the season? Something's up.
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There's got to be more to the story. I'm reading that Cowboys fans think his play has fallen off a cliff, but to outright release him in the middle of the season? Something's up.
DUI in 3...2...1...
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He's not good.
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The decision won't save the Cowboys any money on Smith's $9.8 million salary-cap figure this year but protects them from his $9.2 million salary for 2022 becoming guaranteed if he gets injured.
Oh ok, I guess that makes sense.
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Oh ok, I guess that makes sense.
Same thing we did with Lev Bell last year basically. Save no money now, but ensure we don’t get stuck with a bad contract for another year
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Mike McCarthy got rona. The Cowboys will probably win big now.
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Mike McCarthy got rona. The Cowboys will probably win big now.
Schefter says 8 positives so far, sounds like they done got themselves an outbreak.
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https://twitter.com/Mitch_Tischler/status/1470023935420948490
I feel like "contemptible" is a bit strong, it's just hilariously petty.
Edit: apparently it's because the visiting benches at Fedex have a reputation for mysterious power cuts midway through cold games preventing the warmers from working, so it's not even petty.
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Alright, let’s hear your Trevon Diggs takes
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https://twitter.com/pff_sam/status/1482863544710402048?s=21
https://twitter.com/pff_fantasy/status/1482845361366437888?s=21
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jerk
https://twitter.com/GehlkenNFL/status/1482949699833323521
https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2022/01/16/cowboys-share-fans-frustation-with-officiating-after-questionable-calls-lead-to-early-playoff-exit/
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As someone who genuinely didn't care who won that game, I didn't come away from it thinking that the zebras had had an undue influence on it or that either team got particularly hosed on bad calls.
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As someone who genuinely didn't care who won that game, I didn't come away from it thinking that the zebras had had an undue influence on it or that either team got particularly hosed on bad calls.
Dak thinks the refs screwed him on that final play
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They ran a stupid playcall. They lost because of that. End of story. They could have taken 2 chances to heave it into the end zone easily from that distance. Getting 15 yards closer did nothing. Idiots.
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Dak thinks the refs screwed him on that final play
Yes, a QB draw at midfield with 10 seconds left on the clock and no timeouts remaining is pretty heinous of the refs.
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They ran a stupid playcall. They lost because of that. End of story. They could have taken 2 chances to heave it into the end zone easily from that distance. Getting 15 yards closer did nothing. Idiots.
It’s a big reason why they lost.
They also had about 14 or 15 penalties that were all earned.
Randy Gregory had 3 awful penalties.
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It’s a big reason why they lost.
They also had about 14 or 15 penalties that were all earned.
Randy Gregory had 3 awful penalties.
True, the stupid call just ended their chance at winning. 14 penalties was the main reason they lost.
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And he retracts
Dak Prescott
@dak
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I deeply regret the comments I made regarding the officials after the game on Sunday.
I was caught up in the emotion of a disappointing loss and my words were uncalled for and unfair.
Dak Prescott
@dak
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I hold the NFL Officials in the highest regard and have always respected their professionalism and the difficulty of their jobs.
The safety of everyone who attends a game or participates on the field of a sporting event is a very serious matter.
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(https://i.ibb.co/S0PVCTF/1844403-B-4-BE7-464-E-9631-11-B1-F2937091.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NpsWBhc)
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So is he jacking off to Dak? Parsons? Just the logo?
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So is he jacking off to Dak? Parsons? Just the logo?
You know that people used to jack off before they had magic electric boxes full of all the naked women in the world, right? Occasionally we got lucky with finding a curled up magazine in a hedge, but most of the time we were stuck with a bottle of nail polish and our imagination.
Honestly, kids today.
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we were stuck with a bottle of nail polish
Hol up
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a bottle of nail polish
wut
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(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/312/011/fc4.jpg)
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Hol up
Je used to paint his nails red to trick his dick into thinking he was a pretty lady
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Je used to paint his nails red to trick his dick into thinking he was a pretty lady
Whatever works.
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Je used to paint his nails red to trick his dick into thinking he was a pretty lady
That took a while. My money was on Cato, there's no deviant like a sailor.
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Late to the party but was the call really the problem?
It seems like Dak not being that intelligent was the problem.
You had the middle of the field completely wide open for guaranteed yardage.
If Dak slid one second earlier and handed the ball to the ref, thst play call would have been hailed as perfect.
Instead you just saw retardation
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Late to the party but was the call really the problem?
It's a little bit of both. Moore/McCarthy needed to tell him to get down probably five yards earlier. "If it's there, you still can't take it because we don't have the time."
14 seconds is not enough time for a run play with a moving clock.
Chris Simms talked about the line of demarcation in that situation being 17 or 18 seconds. I think most teams would consider anything under 20 too risky for that.
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Late to the party but was the call really the problem?
It seems like Dak not being that intelligent was the problem.
You had the middle of the field completely wide open for guaranteed yardage.
If Dak slid one second earlier and handed the ball to the ref, thst play call would have been hailed as perfect.
Instead you just saw retardation
Why even call a run? That extra yardage wouldn't make an end zone throw much easier. Either way it's a prayer. It's not like he can't get it to the end zone from the 40 yard line. Why not take a shot at the end zone right there? If it gets intercepted, oh well. But if it's incomplete, chances are there's enough time left to have a second shot at it.
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You know that people used to jack off before they had magic electric boxes full of all the naked women in the world, right? Occasionally we got lucky with finding a curled up magazine in a hedge, but most of the time we were stuck with a bottle of nail polish and our imagination.
Honestly, kids today.
Because he said he was sacrificing for the cowboys. I assumed that meant he was only jacking off to cowboys highlights forever more
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https://twitter.com/BThomps81/status/1502397946700218369
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https://twitter.com/BThomps81/status/1502397946700218369
Our picks are more valuable because we suck every year.
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Cooper traded to Browns for basically a 5th rounder.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1502722510453981196
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A fifth rounder and $20M per season the next three years
The Jets have cap space but they can’t take that contract on. The roster is too thin.
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A fifth rounder and $20M per season the next three years
The Jets have cap space but they can’t take that contract on. The roster is too thin.
None of it's guaranteed, by the looks of it.
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None of it's guaranteed, by the looks of it.
If he’s on the roster it is
Trading for him now puts him on the books for $20M this year. If he stinks, you cut him next off-season but how does that help the Jets or Zach Wilson?
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If he’s on the roster it is
Trading for him now puts him on the books for $20M this year. If he stinks, you cut him next off-season but how does that help the Jets or Zach Wilson?
I'm not for a moment arguing we should have been in for him, as you know. I'm just saying that Cleveland can get out from under it after he inevitably falls out with Faker.
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I'm not for a moment arguing we should have been in for him, as you know. I'm just saying that Cleveland can get out from under it after he inevitably falls out with Faker.
Right, but I don’t want the Jets to make a move they want to get out of halfway through his first season with the team.
It’s a circus trade made by a circus franchise.
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I'm not for a moment arguing we should have been in for him, as you know. I'm just saying that Cleveland can get out from under it
after he inevitably falls out with Faker.
'That was awesome JE!' "Thanks!"
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Quaker_Oats_advertisement_1905.jpg/157px-Quaker_Oats_advertisement_1905.jpg)
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5 years / $62.5M for Gallup. That seems like not a bad deal.
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Ed Werder
@WerderEdESPN
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20m
“Voiding a guarantee because a guy gets fined is not in any contract with any other team in the league.” When questioned, team said clause in every contract but Dak Prescott’s. When Gregory learned of the language being inserted into the contract, he apparently said, “F—k them.”
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Ed Werder
@WerderEdESPN
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20m
“Voiding a guarantee because a guy gets fined is not in any contract with any other team in the league.” When questioned, team said clause in every contract but Dak Prescott’s. When Gregory learned of the language being inserted into the contract, he apparently said, “F—k them.”
lol Uncle Jerry
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Ed Werder
@WerderEdESPN
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20m
“Voiding a guarantee because a guy gets fined is not in any contract with any other team in the league.” When questioned, team said clause in every contract but Dak Prescott’s. When Gregory learned of the language being inserted into the contract, he apparently said, “F—k them.”
I’d say for teams that’s a great thing. But I am surprised that many players agree to it.
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I’d say for teams that’s a great thing. But I am surprised that many players agree to it.
"I will give you eleventy squillion dollars but you have to promise to be a good boy."
"OK!"
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Cowboys top 16 draft board deciphered
https://twitter.com/OCC44/status/1521591030193270787?s=20&t=JG8_d2lGrJxZiBzxMaSZPw
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Curveball
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/yg058t/live_lebron_james_said_on_instagram_live_that_he
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Dov Kleiman
@NFL_DovKleiman
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28s
#Cowboys have officially signed former #Colts WR T.Y. Hilton to a 1-year deal.
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Dov Kleiman
@NFL_DovKleiman
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28s
#Cowboys have officially signed former #Colts WR T.Y. Hilton to a 1-year deal.
Had no idea TY was still around.
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We should trade for Dak since Dallas apparently hates him
https://twitter.com/dallascowboys/status/1617383701226176512?s=19
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We'd do a great job hating him.
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We'd do a great job hating him.
He was bad in that SF game, against an elite defense.
He would obviously be a big upgrade over what we’ve had for a decade, but I’ve always questioned just how good he is. He was a star behind their elite line for a few years with Zeke killing it, and he’s seemingly been average at worst in his weakest seasons. Is he a guy who could win a ring? I’m not entirely sure, but I’d wager Carr is the better fit for us at QB.
That said, it would be nice to have another option (of which I see no reason Dak actually would be) in a QB carousel that doesn’t have a lot of QB options, and has a bunch of open seats right now.
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Daks a top 15 QB paid like a top 5 QB
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Daks a top 15 QB paid like a top 5 QB
What this guy said.
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What this guy said.
Micah Parsons seems to agree too
https://mobile.twitter.com/MicahhParsons11/status/1618287834418540544?s=20
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Micah Parsons seems to agree too
https://mobile.twitter.com/MicahhParsons11/status/1618287834418540544?s=20
I’ve seen the conversations about it, but at the time I read this as a rebuttal to Beane’s comment and not an observation on the Cowboys. Still do
It’s a dumb take by Beane considering they were trash until they got Josh Allen and then traded a first for Diggs (which they could have used to select Jetta)
The Bills are really not all that much different than the Bengals, just a few years ahead. It’s not like the Bills have been good at all outside of this run with Allen.
Beane should have said Burrow instead of Chase. Chase was the #5 pick. The Bills picked Josh Allen at 7 like 5 years ago.
I still haven’t watched that clip, but it was a dumb comment (out of context)
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Just watched it, and he did say Burrow
But the lack of self awareness is hilarious
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Kellen Moore is gone.
Is it too early to fire Hackett?
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Kellen Moore is gone.
Is it too early to fire Hackett?
It's never too early
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Moore would have been my number one target.
He does have that permanent "I just smelled a fart" face, but I would've tolerated it.
(https://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/14882.png)
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Yeah but he might have brought Dak Prescott.
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Yeah but he might have brought Dak Prescott.
In 6 years after his contract expires?
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Yeah but he might have brought Dak Prescott.
And then we'd have statistically the best QB in Jets history.
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And then we'd have statistically the best QB in Jets history.
Maybe, but dcm nailed it - a top 15 QB getting paid like a top 5 QB. Also he's always seemed like he's a bit of a knob, although given I'm currently cheerleading for Rodgers I recognise I'm on shaky ground there.
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Hired Brian Schotteheimer as new OC
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Never say die, Schotty.
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Dak Prescott is now the longest tenured starting QB in the NFL.
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Am I the only one who didn't hear that Gavin Escobar died?
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Traded a 4th round pick to the 9ers for Trey Lance.
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Traded a 4th round pick to the 9ers for Trey Lance.
If Lance can play even as a backup, it’s a worthwhile deal.
If Shannahan doesn’t think he can play, I’m not sure he can
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Trevon Diggs tore his ACL at practice today
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That sucks.
The nfl would be a really interesting product with the injury sliders turned off
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Just our luck, out for the season after we play them
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Just our luck, out for the season after we play them
Agreed but we were still losing that game with no Diggs.
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https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/1746701972034801946?t=NQOyd_f2p3o0trilRnDGSw&s=19
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https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/1746701972034801946?t=NQOyd_f2p3o0trilRnDGSw&s=19
The world will be a better place when he’s dead
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https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/1746701972034801946?t=NQOyd_f2p3o0trilRnDGSw&s=19
i don't even own a home but what the freak is that backdrop to his stove?
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i don't even own a home but what the freak is that backdrop to his stove?
It's a tiled backsplash in a modern country kitchen style. HTH.
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Interviewing Marquand Manuel for their open DC job.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-cowboys-interviewing-jets-assistant-marquand-manuel-for-dc-job (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-cowboys-interviewing-jets-assistant-marquand-manuel-for-dc-job)