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Collegiate Football => The NFL Draft => Topic started by: Heismanberg on November 27, 2020, 10:41:21 PM

Title: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on November 27, 2020, 10:41:21 PM
Interior Defensive Line

Jordan Davis - Georgia
Tyler Shelvin - LSU
Jay Tufele - USC
Jaylen Twyman - Pittsburgh
Tedarrell Slaton - Florida

EDGE

Gregory Rousseau - Miami (FL)
Azeez Ojulari - Georgia
Kwity Paye - Michigan
Joseph Ossai - Texas
Jaelen Phillips - Miami (FL)

Linebacker

Micah Parsons - Penn State
Dylan Moses - Alabama
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah - Notre Dame
Zaven Collins - Tulsa
Damone Clarke - LSU

Cornerback

Patrick Surtain II - Alabama
Derion Kendrick - Clemson
Jaycee Horn - South Carolina
Caleb Farley - Virginia Tech
Shaun Wade - Ohio State

Safety

Paris Ford - Pittsburgh
Andre Cisco - Syracuse
Hamsah Nasirildeen - Florida State
Israel Mukuamu - South Carolina
Jevon Holland - Oregon

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Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on January 26, 2021, 10:13:25 AM
We really need to start looking at 4-3 LBs. 
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 26, 2021, 11:26:52 AM
We really need to start looking at 4-3 LBs. 

Gross. I haven’t done that in over 10 years and they feel foreign to me
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on January 26, 2021, 11:33:17 AM
Gross. I haven’t done that in over 10 years and they feel foreign to me

Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
Nick Bolton
Chazz Surratt
Ventell Miller
Cameron McGrone
Jabrill Cox
Monty Rice

It'll be interesting to see if Saleh is interesting in someone like Hamsah Nasirildeen...
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Badger on January 26, 2021, 11:33:18 AM
Gross. I haven’t done that in over 10 years and they feel foreign to me
We shoulda drafted Wagner
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: MBGreen on January 26, 2021, 12:25:18 PM
We shoulda drafted Wagner
Still my greatest mock draft pick for the jets
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Libero_2 on January 26, 2021, 12:39:48 PM
Still my greatest mock draft pick for the jets

And the one you got the most crap for
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 26, 2021, 01:45:33 PM
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
Nick Bolton
Chazz Surratt
Ventell Miller
Cameron McGrone
Jabrill Cox
Monty Rice

It'll be interesting to see if Saleh is interesting in someone like Hamsah Nasirildeen...

Who is the closest Comp to Jonathan Vilma

Surratt has a ton of upside

Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on January 26, 2021, 01:47:28 PM
Who is the closest Comp to Jonathan Vilma

I don't think there's a Mike that comes close that that level in this draft class

maybe Dylan Moses
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on February 17, 2021, 12:26:19 PM
Gonna have to rework these today because several players stayed in school.  Plus, my rankings are usually based on the 3-4 defense.
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Johnny English on February 17, 2021, 12:29:06 PM
Gonna have to rework these today because several players stayed in school.  Plus, my rankings are usually based on the 3-4 defense.

Also make sure you factor in the Shanahan zone blocking scheme.
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on February 17, 2021, 12:34:15 PM
Defensive Tackle

Christian Barmore - Alabama
Daviyon Nixon - Iowa
Tyler Shelvin - LSU
Jay Tufele - USC
Tommy Togiai - Ohio State

EDGE

Gregory Rousseau - Miami (FL)
Azeez Ojulari - Georgia
Kwity Paye - Michigan
Joseph Ossai - Texas
Jaelen Phillips - Miami (FL)

Linebacker

Micah Parsons - Penn State
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah - Notre Dame
Dylan Moses - Alabama
Nick Bolton - Missouri
Zaven Collins - Tulsa

Cornerback

Patrick Surtain II - Alabama
Jaycee Horn - South Carolina
Caleb Farley - Virginia Tech
Ifeatu Melifonwu - Syracuse
Greg Newsome II - Northwestern

Safety

Trevon Moehrig - TCU
Andre Cisco - Syracuse
Paris Ford - Pittsburgh
Hamsah Nasirildeen - Florida State
Jevon Holland - Oregon

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Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on February 17, 2021, 12:37:37 PM
Secondary:  Absolutely hate the safety class.  It stinks.  A ton of talent at corner this year, hoping to see us come away with two CBs.

Linebacker:  Owusu-Koramoah is a guy to watch for the 23rd overall pick.  He's a new age linebacker that Saleh could build around. 

DL:  We have no real need at defensive tackle and that's a good thing because this class is pretty mediocre.  EDGE group is solidified for me and has been for a while.  Any of the top five pass rushers would be a great fit for us. 

Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on March 17, 2021, 09:59:55 AM
If Ojulari is there at 23, take him and kill all the QBs

Lawson/Ojulari would be big time

Rousseau is a better scheme fit though
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 19, 2021, 07:38:12 PM
The fact that we haven’t signed a Vet CB like Steven Nelson or Richard Sherman has to mean that CB is heavily in play at 23

There’s also the possibility that Surtain, Newsome, or Farley drop to 34

I love Asante Samuel Jr and am down for him at 34 if everyone else is gone but I don’t think I’d be picking him thinking he’s a future CB1. He might be a slot
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Johnny English on April 19, 2021, 08:16:22 PM
The fact that we haven’t signed a Vet CB like Steven Nelson or Richard Sherman has to mean that CB is heavily in play at 23

There’s also the possibility that Surtain, Newsome, or Farley drop to 34

I love Asante Samuel Jr and am down for him at 34 if everyone else is gone but I don’t think I’d be picking him thinking he’s a future CB1. He might be a slot

If he wasn't called Asante Samuel are you really drafting him at the top of the second? I've only seen him a few times but he doesn't seem to really be a presence on the field - QBs don't avoid him, he isn't jumping routes consistently, and he isn't making receivers keep one eye on him. I'm not at all convinced he's a great player in the NFL.
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on April 19, 2021, 08:44:56 PM
The fact that we haven’t signed a Vet CB like Steven Nelson or Richard Sherman has to mean that CB is heavily in play at 23

There’s also the possibility that Surtain, Newsome, or Farley drop to 34

I love Asante Samuel Jr and am down for him at 34 if everyone else is gone but I don’t think I’d be picking him thinking he’s a future CB1. He might be a slot

If Surtain II falls to 34, something is seriously wrong
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Libero_2 on April 19, 2021, 08:56:03 PM
If Surtain II falls to 34, something is seriously wrong

The only thing that could make that happen is worse medical on him than Farley
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 19, 2021, 09:52:55 PM
If he wasn't called Asante Samuel are you really drafting him at the top of the second? I've only seen him a few times but he doesn't seem to really be a presence on the field - QBs don't avoid him, he isn't jumping routes consistently, and he isn't making receivers keep one eye on him. I'm not at all convinced he's a great player in the NFL.

I firmly believe he’s the 5th best corner in the draft. I haven’t watched nearly as much CFB the past couple years, but he was a guy I actually watched and stuck out as a positive even on a bad team. He’s a very legitimate 2nd-3rd round talent. My biggest concern with him is his size.
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 22, 2021, 10:40:11 PM
https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1385350195605614593?s=21
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: reuben on April 27, 2021, 08:27:51 AM
Contingent on getting a gord with our next pick, I'm warming up to Kwity Paye at 23.  We need a smart run defender to set the edge against Allen, Tua, and possibly Fields. 
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on April 27, 2021, 08:32:33 AM
Contingent on getting a gord with our next pick, I'm warming up to Kwity Paye at 23.  We need a smart run defender to set the edge against Allen, Tua, and possibly Fields. 

Rousseau

mainly because he's 2 years younger than Paye
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: reuben on April 27, 2021, 08:46:50 AM
Rousseau

mainly because he's 2 years younger than Paye

Yeah but what's Rousseau's floor?  At least with Paye, you're getting solid run defense and then if you coach up his pass moves, you've got something special.  Rousseau is such an all or nothing gamble. 
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: MBGreen on April 27, 2021, 09:36:14 AM
Yeah but what's Rousseau's floor?  At least with Paye, you're getting solid run defense and then if you coach up his pass moves, you've got something special.  Rousseau is such an all or nothing gamble.
If we draft Rousseau, I'll shutdown JO.
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on April 27, 2021, 09:41:25 AM
Yeah but what's Rousseau's floor?

The only reason anyone has Paye over Rousseau is because he played in 2020.

Rousseau was coming off of a 15.5 sack season (20 TFLs) and was advised he had nothing left to prove.  He was considered a top three pick after 2019 ended. 

He isn't a gamble.  He has elite traits and put up elite production at Miami. 
Title: Re: 2021 JetDefensive Prospect Rankings
Post by: Heismanberg on April 27, 2021, 09:50:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpDmWrOOZ7c

This was one of the most dominant games by a defensive lineman that I've ever seen