Post by: Johnny English on November 07, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
First things first, please:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-environment-legacy/rolling-back-trumps-rollbacks-biden-seen-reversing-climate-deregulation-idUSKBN27N0PR
The moves that Trump has made not just to ignore climate change, but to deliberately hasten it, have to be undone as a matter of immediate priority IMO.
Post by: MBGreen on November 07, 2020, 12:57:58 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on November 07, 2020, 01:04:08 PM
Because now he is President-Elect he deserves his own thread for what happens under his watch.
First things first, please:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-environment-legacy/rolling-back-trumps-rollbacks-biden-seen-reversing-climate-deregulation-idUSKBN27N0PR
The moves that Trump has made not just to ignore climate change, but to deliberately hasten it, have to be undone as a matter of immediate priority IMO.
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While Biden has promised to end new permitting for drilling on federal lands, many companies hoarded permits in the run-up to the election, according to previous Reuters reporting.
“If there is a 30-year lease, you can’t take it away. A lease is binding for its term,” Gerrard said.
The Interior Department under Trump auctioned more than 24 million acres of land, an area larger than Indiana, according to the House Natural Resources committee.
Damn, I had no idea it was that much.
Post by: Johnny English on November 07, 2020, 01:11:44 PM
Damn, I had no idea it was that much.
Grifters gonna grift.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 07, 2020, 01:15:26 PM
Contain covid first...then climate
Starting Jan 21 we can handle both.
Post by: delavan on November 07, 2020, 01:40:37 PM
*cue wildlife visual PSA ads*
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 07, 2020, 04:13:09 PM
Much of Trump's enviro-protecting rollbacks were via executive order - can't much could be restored in fairly short order? And if nothing other than for reasons of political expediency, watch some GOP members of the Senate read the tealeaves (i.e. doubt enviro-related motions will be 100% split along party lines). They can sell energy independence all they want but that ship will eventually sail if it's attached to "scarring the landscape"
*cue wildlife visual PSA ads*
Renewable resources are a great way to promote new jobs or transition from older resource jobs. This shouldn’t be too difficult a sell based solely on merits.
Post by: delavan on November 07, 2020, 04:30:36 PM
Renewable resources are a great way to promote new jobs or transition from older resource jobs. This shouldn’t be too difficult a sell based solely on merits.Many ways to skin a cat, my point being that whether through environmental consciousness or the promise of jobs, the scarring-the-landscape ship's eventually going to be yesterday's news. Now to make renewables viable scale-wise.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 07, 2020, 04:36:48 PM
Post by: Johnny English on November 07, 2020, 05:00:30 PM
Starting Jan 21 we can handle both.
Locating the parents of 545 children should probably be fairly high on the priority list as well.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 07, 2020, 05:01:52 PM
Locating the parents of 545 children should probably be fairly high on the priority list as well.
It should be the last thing ICE ever does.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 07, 2020, 05:16:27 PM
Post by: Johnny English on November 07, 2020, 05:23:44 PM
As someone who has had to pay every cent of their student loans since graduating, good.https://twitter.com/coryprovost/status/1325202774578122754?s=09 (https://twitter.com/coryprovost/status/1325202774578122754?s=09)
Pish. Student debt is for people stupid enough to be born to parents too poor to cover their bills. They should pay every penny.
Post by: Badger on November 07, 2020, 05:30:14 PM
It should be the last thing ICE ever does."Best we can do is rename it NICE"
(I will be reusing this for at least 4 years)
Post by: Badger on November 07, 2020, 05:42:21 PM
https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1325162772720545792?s=19
Post by: Johnny English on November 07, 2020, 05:45:36 PM
This sucks (and does nothing to dispel the notion that the party is just a nepotistic vehicle for people to fail upwards)
https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1325162772720545792?s=19
Oh FFS do I have to do my Meg Whitman rant yet freaking again? She isn't even good at being a capitalist.
Post by: bojanglesman on November 07, 2020, 06:44:56 PM
Then again, there's this:
https://prospect.org/politics/we-dont-have-to-live-in-mitch-mcconnells-world/
In this, it points out that Biden can just use the Vacancies Act like Trump did over and over again, and appoint an endless supply of "Acting" posts with whoever the freak he wants. Or he could appoint posts in recess (read the article).
Basically, you can play fair and lose to McConnell every time, or beat them at their own game and not give a freak because Turtle sure doesn't.
Then again, maybe Biden would rather try to mend fences that blow them up.
Post by: delavan on November 07, 2020, 06:47:34 PM
Oh FFS do I have to do my Meg Whitman rant yet freaking again? She isn't even good at being a capitalist.She's an exclusionary elitist queynte who's not good at a lot of things policy-wise.
That said, declaring a Harvard/Princeton grad who's a billionaire and married to a Harvard/Oxford neurosurgeon (salary$..whadda ya think?) as a shitty capitalist is a tough sell.
Post by: Badger on November 07, 2020, 06:48:26 PM
In this, it points out that Biden can just use the Vacancies Act like Trump did over and over again, and appoint an endless supply of "Acting" posts with whoever the freak he wants. Or he could appoint posts in recess (read the article).
100% this
Post by: bojanglesman on November 07, 2020, 06:51:08 PM
He probably won't, he's a people pleaser and I don't think he's looking to rile things up any more than they already are right now. Maybe once things settle down he'll sneak in a few good ones.
100% this
Post by: bojanglesman on November 07, 2020, 06:56:34 PM
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To be fair, Meg Whitman has a history of making rich corporations not quite as rich.
I don't know anyone who thinks she's any good at anything helpful.
Post by: Badger on November 07, 2020, 06:57:51 PM
He probably won't, he's a people pleaser and I don't think he's looking to rile things up any more than they already are right now. Maybe once things settle down he'll sneak in a few good ones.This would be a good way to fail the country.
Post by: Johnny English on November 07, 2020, 07:03:00 PM
She's an exclusionary elitist queynte who's not good at a lot of things policy-wise.
That said, declaring a Harvard/Princeton grad who's a billionaire and married to a Harvard/Oxford neurosurgeon (salary$..whadda ya think?) as a shitty capitalist is a tough sell.
I don't mean shitty as in not committed to the cause, I mean shitty as in not any good at it. I have over the years worked quite a lot with HP and have a fair amount of familiarity with the organization, and her time in charge of that company was criminally bad. Some of the decisions and strategic moves she made as their chief made me wonder whether she actually had the first clue about the market in which she was operating.
I'm not sure what her husband's knowledge of which tubes go in which sockets in the human brain has to do with it.
Post by: delavan on November 07, 2020, 07:29:34 PM
I don't mean shitty as in not committed to the cause, I mean shitty as in not any good at it. I have over the years worked quite a lot with HP and have a fair amount of familiarity with the organization, and her time in charge of that company was criminally bad. Some of the decisions and strategic moves she made as their chief made me wonder whether she actually had the first clue about the market in which she was operating.
I'm not sure what her husband's knowledge of which tubes go in which sockets in the human brain has to do with it.
Fair point (though she hit it out of the park with Ebay; whiffed with HP [bad Automony move] and Quibi). That said (and fwiw) why would a company such as Proctor & Gamble keep an Adam Gate-type capitalist on their board of directors? She's the 5th richest gash in California and as far as her equally 'alma mater lettered' hubby goes, she knew well enough NOT to hitch her wagon to Dr. Joe Blow, Harvard Community College. Again, I get your point, but she (Princeton/Haarvaard) is not a good capitalist (per se)? ?
Post by: Johnny English on November 07, 2020, 07:46:20 PM
Fair point (though she hit it out of the park with Ebay; whiffed with HP [bad Automony move] and Quibi). That said (and fwiw) why would a company such as Proctor & Gamble keep an Adam Gate-type capitalist on their board of directors? She's the 5th richest gash in California and as far as her equally 'alma mater lettered' hubby goes, she knew well enough NOT to hitch her wagon to Dr. Joe Blow, Harvard Community College. Again, I get your point, but she (Princeton/Haarvaard) is not a good capitalist (per se)? ?
She's a committed capitalist, I'm just never going to trust someone who failed to succeed with a gilt-edged company like HP. It's almost as bad as bankrupting a casino, if you can imagine that someone could be as inept a businessperson as to achieve that.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 07, 2020, 07:50:52 PM
Post by: steves850 on November 07, 2020, 07:53:14 PM
I'm not sure why they were mad. I figured they were doing it for attention so I took a couple pictures.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/ae1a2ea471e458fe4a62f766f1e99c1c.jpg)
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Post by: Johnny English on November 07, 2020, 07:57:59 PM
Welcome back America, we've missed you.
Post by: delavan on November 07, 2020, 08:12:35 PM
She's a committed capitalist, I'm just never going to trust someone who failed to succeed with a gilt-edged company like HP. It's almost as bad as bankrupting a casino, if you can imagine that someone could be as inept a businessperson as to achieve that.
https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/tim-cook-announces-we-decided-to-make-the-iphone-worse-this-time/. but muh_____ : -)
Post by: Johnny English on November 07, 2020, 08:17:18 PM
https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/tim-cook-announces-we-decided-to-make-the-iphone-worse-this-time/. but muh_____ : -)
Uh.... you know that's a satirical site, right?
Post by: Badger on November 07, 2020, 09:24:03 PM
Mayor Pete for VA is a great place to let him succeed in government and then dead end in national elections.That's a nice silver lining.
Post by: delavan on November 08, 2020, 11:24:15 AM
Uh.... you know that's a satirical site, right?
Yep. Here's reality (Bloomberg LP's dubious "Most Underachieving CEO" award; along with Meg Whitman, Tim Cook too was a 'winner'):
https://www.vcpost.com/articles/115973/20160210/bloomberg-com-news-articles-2016-02-08-hp-s-whitman-received-17-1-million-package-as-company-split.htm
My beef with Whitman has to do with her importing that creepy/weird Brit kiddie show Telatubbies. Curiously, while she ran for governor as a Republican she did support both Hillary in '16 and Joe Biden in '20.
Post by: Badger on November 08, 2020, 11:27:30 AM
Post by: Badger on November 08, 2020, 01:10:41 PM
https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1325172639976058885?s=19
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 08, 2020, 01:14:32 PM
lmao imagine McConnell giving a excrement
https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1325172639976058885?s=19
He'll try everything he can to keep any of Biden's picks out of SCOTUS.
Post by: Badger on November 08, 2020, 01:19:20 PM
He'll try everything he can to keep any of Biden's picks out of SCOTUS.There's an outside chance that he could allow a vote on a nominee if it wouldn't change the 6-3 split so he could pretend to be fair
Post by: Johnny English on November 08, 2020, 01:27:30 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 08, 2020, 01:28:31 PM
There's an outside chance that he could allow a vote on a nominee if it wouldn't change the 6-3 split so he could pretend to be fair
It'll be interesting to watch what excuses he gives if Alito finally snaps at DC life and decides to retire
Post by: mj2sexay on November 08, 2020, 04:44:28 PM
He'll try everything he can to keep any of Biden's picks out of SCOTUS.
Biden won't be getting picks in his first term unless someone from the left wing of the Court resigns.
I saw a law blog linked elsewhere the other day that laid out the rationale for a 13 member SCOTUS, basically saying that the number of circuits (or appeals courts maybe? I am an ignoramus when it comes to such things) has expanded to 13 but SCOTUS hasn't followed suit. I have no idea whether it makes sense or not.
He will oppose any disgustingly odious attempt to pack the court as he should.
Post by: Badger on November 08, 2020, 05:12:59 PM
Post by: Badger on November 08, 2020, 05:13:38 PM
He will oppose any disgustingly odious attempt to pack the court as he should.
Ironic
Post by: IATA on November 08, 2020, 05:51:02 PM
Sent from fire adam gase.
Post by: Badger on November 08, 2020, 06:44:09 PM
I'm looking forward to expanding the court, cry more cons. Snowflakes.I wish. We'll just get a bipartisan committee to recommend minor changes, then maybe they'll try to implement them and it'll get shut down by the Senate, and Biden will say "sorry we tried nothing we could do".
Sent from fire adam gase.
Post by: bojanglesman on November 08, 2020, 06:48:54 PM
Post by: IATA on November 08, 2020, 07:14:04 PM
I wish. We'll just get a bipartisan committee to recommend minor changes, then maybe they'll try to implement them and it'll get shut down by the Senate, and Biden will say "sorry we tried nothing we could do".Think of all the legislation that will be hemmed and hawed over, only to inevitably be blocked from a vote!
Sent from fire adam gase.
Post by: mj2sexay on November 08, 2020, 07:58:49 PM
I'm looking forward to expanding the court, cry more cons. Snowflakes.
Sent from fire adam gase.
You and the other 26% in favor of this idiocy.
I don't have much faith in the electorate, but give the other 74 percent credit for understanding how far reaching the consequences are and aren't short-sighted little regressive, authoritarian, power hungry cunts. Like you. You dumb lover of the older lady.
Post by: Badger on November 08, 2020, 09:46:38 PM
Post by: Badger on November 08, 2020, 09:49:44 PM
You and the other 26% in favor of this idiocy.
I don't have much faith in the electorate, but give the other 74 percent credit for understanding how far reaching the consequences are and aren't short-sighted little regressive, authoritarian, power hungry cunts. Like you. You dumb lover of the older lady.
You just described rotting Mitch to a T
Post by: Badger on November 08, 2020, 11:42:14 PM
https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1325554910344130561?s=19
Post by: mj2sexay on November 09, 2020, 12:06:50 AM
You just described rotting Harry Reid
FYP
Post by: Badger on November 09, 2020, 06:05:10 AM
FYPThis excuse wore out years ago
Post by: Badger on November 09, 2020, 08:38:51 AM
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1325800445193949184?s=19
https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/08/21/238642/a-doctor-and-medical-ethicist-argues-life-after-75-is-not-worth-living/
Post by: Johnny English on November 09, 2020, 09:02:32 AM
Lowlight of this list is Rahm Emanuel's brother who is almost as awful as he is.
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1325800445193949184?s=19
https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/08/21/238642/a-doctor-and-medical-ethicist-argues-life-after-75-is-not-worth-living/
I would contend that the article you link is not evidence of the awfulness that you are claiming.
Post by: delavan on November 09, 2020, 09:25:54 AM
If he wants to get anything good done he should circumvent the Senate as often as possible by any means necessaryWhy not just do away with the Senate altogether? Seriously, if there's no use for a legislative body because of partisan majority concerns, then what?
https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1325554910344130561?s=19
FYPWhile Reid rashly pulled the nuclear option as an obvious power play, it did not (at the time) apply to Supreme Court nominations. Fast forward to McConnell's own tit-for-tat nuclear option which was "two wrongs don't make a right" stupid made even more damaging by extending it to SCOTUS nominations.
Post by: Badger on November 09, 2020, 09:29:59 AM
I would contend that the article you link is not evidence of the awfulness that you are claiming.Asserting that old people aren't worth keeping alive is... bad
Post by: Johnny English on November 09, 2020, 09:50:21 AM
Asserting that old people aren't worth keeping alive is... bad
I agree, so it's just as well he didn't do that. He talks about the decreasing utility of old people in economic terms, the fact that treatments are delivering additional quantity of life without commensurate additional quality, and that he has no desire personally to have his life artificially extended when he doesn't feel that it's providing value.
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Lots of presidents and lots of politicians say, “Children are our most valuable resource.” But we as a country don’t behave like that. We don’t invest in children the way we invest in adults, especially older adults. One of the statistics I like to point out is if you look at the federal budget, $7 goes to people over 65 for every dollar for people under 18.
I don't think that that is an outrageous statement. He may very well have asserted that old people aren't worth keeping alive, but he doesn't do it in this article.
Post by: Badger on November 09, 2020, 10:21:56 AM
Post by: d sw0rdz on November 09, 2020, 10:24:09 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on November 09, 2020, 10:26:56 AM
Post by: Johnny English on November 09, 2020, 10:28:55 AM
Post by: Badger on November 09, 2020, 10:29:34 AM
Despite the best efforts of the IRA, sadly yes. And it's not his first outburst of blatant racism, you'll be shocked to hear.He clarified in an additional tweet that it wasn't racist he just couldn't remember her name.
Post by: Johnny English on November 09, 2020, 11:21:15 AM
He clarified in an additional tweet that it wasn't racist he just couldn't remember her name.
This is the same guy who bitched a few years ago about England needing to pick non-English players in order to become good at cricket again. He was specifically referring to Moeen Ali, who was born in Birmingham.
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 09, 2020, 12:51:56 PM
He clarified in an additional tweet that it wasn't racist he just couldn't remember her name.
Given that he used Twitter to make those thoughts public, he obviously has access to an internet-connected device. Someone should tell him about Google.
Or punch him. One or the other.
Post by: Johnny English on November 09, 2020, 12:55:17 PM
Given that he used Twitter to make those thoughts public, he obviously has access to an internet-connected device. Someone should tell him about Google.
Or punch him. One or the other.
The simple fact that he could remember her race but not her name says all anyone should need to know about his mindset.
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 09, 2020, 01:16:20 PM
The simple fact that he could remember her race but not her name says all anyone should need to know about his mindset.
That he looks like the rapidly aged lovechild of Rex Ryan and Mitch McConnell tells me enough already.
Post by: MBGreen on November 09, 2020, 01:19:00 PM
lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201109/35904b1f6d993f56152e142798a4154c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201109/c6b3c0af0bcbc7298cc5a707006ae218.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201109/676658f68f933e63de578953c9a5bdec.jpg)
Sometimes....dead is better
Post by: Badger on November 09, 2020, 08:37:08 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 09, 2020, 09:40:27 PM
https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1325937738311413760?s=19.
Suggesting Patreus, someone who leaked classified material, as the DNI, is beyond stupid.
Also just no to that lineup in general.
Post by: Badger on November 11, 2020, 04:59:01 PM
https://twitter.com/JENFL23/status/1326623643137437704?s=19
Post by: delavan on November 11, 2020, 05:03:47 PM
https://twitter.com/marceldirsus/status/1325822934502543360
Post by: Johnny English on November 11, 2020, 05:08:14 PM
shoes you will never be qualified to shoes
https://twitter.com/JENFL23/status/1326623643137437704?s=19
What is a Jen Perelman? What is a KHive? I am aware I could google these things but I feel like I want you to tell me.
Post by: Badger on November 11, 2020, 05:11:06 PM
What is a Jen Perelman? What is a KHive? I am aware I could google these things but I feel like I want you to tell me.It doesn't really matter who Jen P is, she ran for Congress this year and lost in the primaries. Khive is Kamala's online fans.
Post by: Johnny English on November 11, 2020, 05:19:45 PM
Khive is Kamala's online fans.
Is that actually a thing?
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 11, 2020, 05:25:25 PM
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Dr. Michael Osterholm, a coronavirus advisor to President-elect Joe Biden, said a nationwide lockdown would help bring the virus under control in the U.S.
He said the government could borrow enough money to pay for a package that would cover lost income for individuals and governments during a shutdown.
"We could really watch ourselves cruising into the vaccine availability in the first and second quarter of next year while bringing back the economy long before that," he said.
https://twitter.com/cnbc/status/1326637282468696066?s=21
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 11, 2020, 05:32:37 PM
Biden Covid advisor says U.S. lockdown of 4 to 6 weeks could control pandemic and revive economyBut lockdown bad!1!1!1!1111!
https://twitter.com/cnbc/status/1326637282468696066?s=21
Post by: Johnny English on November 11, 2020, 05:34:54 PM
But lockdown bad!1!1!1!1111!
Well... it kinda is. It might be necessary, but it's definitely still bad.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 11, 2020, 05:44:01 PM
Well... it kinda is. It might be necessary, but it's definitely still bad.It's bad in the sense that it is required or if it is the only solution but calls to avoid it due solely to the immediate economic impact are far more pernicious.
The government needs to attack the virus both through quarantines and econiomic stimulus to counteract it. The Senate seems intent on ignoring that second part or either sending that stimulus solely to big businesses or allowing them easy access to funds meant for small businesses and consumers while blaming the Democrats as if the House didn't pass a stimulus plan months ago.
Lockdowns are bad but rampant, uncontrolled infection is worse and it's only the former that the right seems to want to key on.
Post by: Badger on November 11, 2020, 06:30:51 PM
Is that actually a thing?Yes and they've convinced themselves they carried Biden to victory despite the fact they couldn't carry Harris into Iowa or even above 5th in polling for her home state.
Basically if you took Hillary's actual supporters from 2016 (people who were pro-Hillary and not just anti-Trump or lesser of 2 evil voters) and divided them up, all the decent ones became Warren supporters and all the unhinged ones became #khive.
Post by: mj2sexay on November 11, 2020, 06:34:35 PM
It's bad in the sense that it is required or if it is the only solution but calls to avoid it due solely to the immediate economic impact are far more pernicious.
The government needs to attack the virus both through quarantines and econiomic stimulus to counteract it. The Senate seems intent on ignoring that second part or either sending that stimulus solely to big businesses or allowing them easy access to funds meant for small businesses and consumers while blaming the Democrats as if the House didn't pass a stimulus plan months ago.
Lockdowns are bad but rampant, uncontrolled infection is worse and it's only the former that the right seems to want to key on.
"The right" literally offered a "skinny" almost 1.8 billion dollar stimulus that was rejected.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 11, 2020, 06:42:06 PM
"The right" literally offered a "skinny" almost 1.8 billion dollar stimulus that was rejected.
I want you to open your hand inside me like a catchers mitt.
Post by: reuben on November 11, 2020, 08:00:07 PM
I want you to open your hand inside me like a catchers mitt.
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/3ov9jNfsMbfFYiegZa/giphy.gif)
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 11, 2020, 09:08:49 PM
Yes and they've convinced themselves they carried Biden to victory despite the fact they couldn't carry Harris into Iowa or even above 5th in polling for her home state.
Basically if you took Hillary's actual supporters from 2016 (people who were pro-Hillary and not just anti-Trump or lesser of 2 evil voters) and divided them up, all the decent ones became Warren supporters and all the unhinged ones became #khive.
I guess at least you think I'm decent.
Post by: Badger on November 11, 2020, 09:55:29 PM
I guess at least you think I'm decent.Jury's still out
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 12, 2020, 12:22:19 PM
Oooof. How is this tweet still up?
Biden’s new chief of staff.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 12, 2020, 12:23:51 PM
I guess “There’s always a tweet” won’t die with the Trump administration
Post by: Johnny English on November 12, 2020, 12:29:07 PM
https://twitter.com/ronaldklain/status/1228067999191449600?s=21
Oooof. How is this tweet still up?
Biden’s new chief of staff.
In fairness, in the middle of February you absolutely did not have a COVID epidemic.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 12, 2020, 12:43:55 PM
https://twitter.com/ronaldklain/status/1228067999191449600?s=21
Oooof. How is this tweet still up?
Biden’s new chief of staff.
The entire country was still in economy > virus mode at that point but yea, did not age well.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 12, 2020, 01:15:30 PM
In fairness, in the middle of February you absolutely did not have a COVID epidemic.
(https://i.ibb.co/nC9zhf9/393-C7332-C2-BE-42-E6-8-CB0-6-E6-ADFB3-BD27.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KwdFC7d)
Post by: Badger on November 12, 2020, 01:29:51 PM
The entire country was still in economy > virus mode at that point but yea, did not age well.To be fair most of the country was told everything was fine by the people at the top who knew better but decided to withhold info and not act because, like you said, economy > virus.
So at the time NYC was more concerned with curbing anti-Chinese sentiment (unfortunately a valid concern) than taking material precautions against the virus.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 12, 2020, 01:34:28 PM
To be fair most of the country was told everything was fine by the people at the top who knew better but decided to withhold info and not act because, like you said, economy > virus.
So at the time NYC was more concerned with curbing anti-Chinese sentiment (unfortunately a valid concern) than taking material precautions against the virus.
Unfortunately it’s still a valid concern. Case in point! This poopchute:
https://twitter.com/valleybrooktea/status/1326227872537858053?s=21 (https://twitter.com/valleybrooktea/status/1326227872537858053?s=21)
Post by: Johnny English on November 13, 2020, 08:52:54 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/comments/jtd17v/kyle_rittenhouse_mother_saying_shes_gonna_sue_joe/
Post by: bojanglesman on November 13, 2020, 08:59:19 AM
Kyle Rittenhouse's mom went on to Tucker Carlson's show to talk about how she's suing Biden for defaming her son. If you can get through all 2 minutes of this then you're doing way better than I managed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/comments/jtd17v/kyle_rittenhouse_mother_saying_shes_gonna_sue_joe/
Damn, that's rough to watch.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 13, 2020, 11:04:29 AM
Kyle Rittenhouse's mom went on to Tucker Carlson's show to talk about how she's suing Biden for defaming her son. If you can get through all 2 minutes of this then you're doing way better than I managed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/comments/jtd17v/kyle_rittenhouse_mother_saying_shes_gonna_sue_joe/
This is actually much needed context into the mind of Kyle Rittenhouse
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 13, 2020, 11:04:40 AM
Post by: d sw0rdz on November 13, 2020, 08:11:08 PM
Kyle Rittenhouse's mom went on to Tucker Carlson's show to talk about how she's suing Biden for defaming her son. If you can get through all 2 minutes of this then you're doing way better than I managed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/comments/jtd17v/kyle_rittenhouse_mother_saying_shes_gonna_sue_joe/
very syndromic appearance and speech/mentation is somewhat 'off'. she has to be a special needs individual. i don't know if the producers of the show knew that but if they did and brought her on for an inflammatory sort of segment like that anyways, it would be an extreme level of fvcked up
Post by: Badger on November 14, 2020, 05:13:25 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201114/ff15b61277aa1c6f9cd151a8e1d4134a.jpg)
Post by: Badger on November 14, 2020, 05:22:15 PM
https://twitter.com/InternetHippo/status/1327753084890619904?s=09
Post by: MBGreen on November 14, 2020, 05:23:40 PM
The libs must be stopped
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201114/ff15b61277aa1c6f9cd151a8e1d4134a.jpg)
aren't you a "lib"?
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 14, 2020, 05:26:54 PM
aren't you a "lib"?I'm pretty sure Badger is being mostly facetious but generally progressives don't like that word.
This type of woke consumerism is just annoying.
Post by: Badger on November 14, 2020, 05:32:30 PM
aren't you a "lib"?Hope this helps(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201114/e371171dd22e0a6e5255eb0557b98d63.jpg)
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 14, 2020, 05:39:19 PM
Post by: MBGreen on November 14, 2020, 05:39:50 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on November 14, 2020, 05:47:39 PM
you guys have too many labels down thereShould be just 2. Fags and assholes.
Post by: MBGreen on November 14, 2020, 05:55:47 PM
Should be just 2. Fags and assholes.
doesn't work, Puck can't be both.
Post by: bojanglesman on November 14, 2020, 06:03:54 PM
doesn't work, Puck can't be both.Faghole
Post by: Johnny English on November 14, 2020, 11:20:44 PM
Hope this helps(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201114/e371171dd22e0a6e5255eb0557b98d63.jpg)
OK that's legit funny. And right.
Post by: MoreCharacters on November 15, 2020, 01:43:30 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on November 15, 2020, 08:59:54 AM
I thought Bernie was a better candidate, even though he's too far to the left for my liking. I think Bernie would have turned off too many voters. I feel like there were a large subset of voters, perhaps enough to make a difference, that maybe didn't like Biden that much but could hold their nose and vote for him because Trump was so awful and Biden isn't going to rock the boat much. I don't know if I could say the same for Bernie.
Sure there will be some consequences with Biden being old and Kamala perhaps being in prime position to tread water for another 8 years, but I've come to peace with it as a better alternative than one more minute of Trump.
Post by: Badger on November 15, 2020, 09:24:21 AM
you guys have too many labels down thereConservative, Liberal, NDP
Except the US doesn't have an NDP so leftists uncomfortably occupy space with the Dems
Post by: MBGreen on November 15, 2020, 09:26:38 AM
Conservative, Liberal, NDP
Except the US doesn't have an NDP so leftists uncomfortably occupy space with the Dems
Don't forget those nutcases in the Bloc Quebecois
Post by: Badger on November 15, 2020, 09:29:57 AM
Don't forget those nutcases in the Bloc Quebecoisyou guys have too many labels up there
Post by: MBGreen on November 15, 2020, 09:31:50 AM
you guys have too many labels up there
i blame the french
Post by: Johnny English on November 15, 2020, 12:04:41 PM
Don't forget those nutcases in the Bloc Quebecois
Also the Greens, Maxime Bernier's lunatic fringe (PPC), and a variety of extremists and lunatics (Communist Party of Canada, a couple of far right nationalist groups, the Rhinos and a bunch more besides). I'm hoping that the PPC gets a bit more traction and hives off some more Conservative voters.
Post by: IATA on November 17, 2020, 01:03:08 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnCWQY9WMAQqGEw?format=jpg&name=small)
must be saving Hunter for Secretary of State
Post by: Badger on November 17, 2020, 02:14:43 PM
Quote
On Tuesday, Politico reported that Biden is appointing U.S. Rep. Cedric Richmond, D-La., to lead the White House Office of Public Engagement, where he is “expected to serve as a liaison with the business community and climate change activists.”
During his 10 years in Congress, Richmond has received roughly $341,000 from donors in the oil and gas industry — the 5th highest total among House Democrats, according to previous reporting by Sludge. That includes corporate political action committee donations of $50,000 from Entergy, an electric and natural gas utility; $40,000 from ExxonMobil; and $10,000 apiece from oil companies Chevron, Phillips 66 and Valero Energy.
Richmond has raked in that money while representing a congressional district that is home to 7 of the 10 most air-polluted census tracts in the country.
Richmond has repeatedly broken with his party on major climate and environmental votes. During the climate crisis that has battered his home state of Louisiana, Richmond has joined with Republicans to vote to increase fossil fuel exports and promote pipeline development. He also voted against Democratic legislation to place pollution limits on fracking — and he voted for GOP legislation to limit the Obama administration’s authority to more stringently regulate the practice.
Overall, Richmond has received a lifetime rating of 76 percent from the League of Conservation Voters, and he scored 46 percent in 2018 — one of the lowest ratings of any Democrat in Congress.
Post by: IATA on November 17, 2020, 02:21:08 PM
Post by: Badger on November 17, 2020, 02:25:36 PM
inb4 he puts the head of comcast as fcc chairMeg Whitman as anything
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 17, 2020, 04:28:39 PM
Ahem...
LMAOOOOOOO
Post by: d sw0rdz on November 17, 2020, 04:33:02 PM
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1328798071686377474?s=21
Ahem...
LMAOOOOOOO
Soooooo good to go back to old-fashioned shittiness instead of Trump brand shittiness
Post by: Badger on November 17, 2020, 06:22:56 PM
https://twitter.com/alexanderbolton/status/1328837080676438027?s=19
Post by: IATA on November 17, 2020, 06:37:08 PM
Sent from fire adam gase.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 18, 2020, 11:44:29 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 18, 2020, 12:34:57 PM
Post by: Badger on November 18, 2020, 03:25:52 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 18, 2020, 03:40:18 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on November 18, 2020, 03:44:13 PM
Post by: Badger on November 20, 2020, 05:46:58 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 20, 2020, 05:51:26 PM
https://twitter.com/k_artig/status/1329914880531591170?s=19
I guess stuttering is funny to someone.
Post by: Badger on November 20, 2020, 10:09:52 PM
I guess stuttering is funny to someone.He didn't sound this bad as recently as a couple years ago.
Post by: bojanglesman on November 20, 2020, 10:40:46 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 21, 2020, 12:39:53 PM
These socialists are going to bleed the country dry
Post by: Badger on November 21, 2020, 03:47:33 PM
https://twitter.com/adamkotsko/status/1329916601416736771?s=19
Post by: bojanglesman on November 23, 2020, 12:10:21 PM
Post by: Johnny English on November 23, 2020, 12:22:23 PM
I guess we have to look at John Kerry's weird head for 4 years.
I don't feel like I have any particular reason to dislike Kerry but I'm not aware of him having any particularly strong credentials that support him being in charge of efforts to fight climate change.
Post by: Badger on November 23, 2020, 12:24:46 PM
I don't feel like I have any particular reason to dislike Kerry but I'm not aware of him having any particularly strong credentials that support him being in charge of efforts to fight climate change.
Don't let blue MAGA hear you say that
Post by: Johnny English on November 23, 2020, 12:30:29 PM
Don't let blue MAGA hear you say that
What is blue MAGA and why not?
Post by: Badger on November 23, 2020, 12:36:21 PM
What is blue MAGA and why not?The people who vote blue team with no regard for policy. The Make America 08 Again people. The cable news watchers.
Right now expressing any criticism of Biden's cabinet picks is met with screeching about how we just beat Trump and should wait before saying anything mildly critical of the incoming administration.
Post by: Badger on November 23, 2020, 01:30:58 PM
https://twitter.com/CrainsChicago/status/1330952480402890752?s=19
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 23, 2020, 02:20:07 PM
Post by: Badger on November 23, 2020, 04:39:51 PM
STOP TRYING TO GIVE THIS MAN A JOBBlue MAGA replying to criticism of Rahm possibly getting a job in the administration
https://twitter.com/CrainsChicago/status/1330952480402890752?s=19
"I know you are young. You need to learn to play chess. The Georgia Senate race IS the most important thing right now!!! (Baby steps). You are very talented but and a bit impatient. Biden is picking a cabinet that reflects the people of the US...not white old men!"
"you have to be able to compromise @AOC if he accepted it and learned from it. Otherwise you'll be left with no competent ppl around, ahem @alfranken ."
"Stop attacking members of your own party on Twitter. It’s so unprofessional. Find a common target instead. These attacks only help republicans."
"This is precisely why president-elect Biden needs to stand firm and not cater to the progressives.
They’ll never be satisfied. And in the end, their “ideas” will cost even more seats in 2022.
The Bronx doesn’t represent America. And the socialist message remains a losing one."
"Now is not the time for this. Let’s concentrate on removing the cancer in the White House."
Post by: Johnny English on November 23, 2020, 04:49:49 PM
Post by: Badger on November 23, 2020, 04:51:51 PM
What's the objection to Emanuel, other than he's tight with Obama and the Clintons?Google it
Edit: I'll just post what those people were replying to
"What is so hard to understand about this?
Rahm Emanuel helped cover up the murder of Laquan McDonald. Covering up a murder is disqualifying for public leadership.
This is not about the “visibility” of a post. It is shameful and concerning that he is even being considered."
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 23, 2020, 04:54:11 PM
What's the objection to Emanuel, other than he's tight with Obama and the Clintons?
Here’s a few:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-met-cb-rahm-emanuel-accomplishments-controversies-20190515-story.html (https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-met-cb-rahm-emanuel-accomplishments-controversies-20190515-story.html)
Post by: Johnny English on November 23, 2020, 05:35:54 PM
Here’s a few:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-met-cb-rahm-emanuel-accomplishments-controversies-20190515-story.html (https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-met-cb-rahm-emanuel-accomplishments-controversies-20190515-story.html)
So he did some good stuff and quite lot of fairly questionable stuff. Not very hopey-changey or or even swampy-drainy, but he's a big city mayor; I accept that he's not the firebrand catalyst for socialist overthrow that Badger would like to see, but he also doesn't seem to be particularly worse than the average politician.
Post by: bojanglesman on November 23, 2020, 05:39:23 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 23, 2020, 05:40:56 PM
So he did some good stuff and quite lot of fairly questionable stuff. Not very hopey-changey or or even swampy-drainy, but he's a big city mayor; I accept that he's not the firebrand catalyst for socialist overthrow that Badger would like to see, but he also doesn't seem to be particularly worse than the average politician.
The Laquan McDonald murder is really freaking bad. Post-George Floyd, the excrement he and the city government pulled should be enough to disqualify someone from consideration.
Post by: Johnny English on November 23, 2020, 05:46:17 PM
The Laquan McDonald murder is really freaking bad. Post-George Floyd, the excrement he and the city government pulled should be enough to disqualify someone from consideration.
Fair enough. I scanned down the link you gave me without reading or investigating each one in any detail. I'm perfectly willing to accept there might be reasons he's bad, I just think that far left and far right have squealed sufficiently about Obama and Clinton and anyone associated with them that I've reached the point of not listening to them shouting "Wolf!" any more.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 23, 2020, 05:48:17 PM
Fair enough. I scanned down the link you gave me without reading or investigating each one in any detail. I'm perfectly willing to accept there might be reasons he's bad, I just think that far left and far right have squealed sufficiently about Obama and Clinton and anyone associated with them that I've reached the point of not listening to them shouting "Wolf!" any more.
You should probably click on the accompanying links in the article.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 23, 2020, 06:00:49 PM
GSA’s Emily Murphy signs off and says the transition can begin, per @KristenhCNN https://t.co/S6YKKQBrQR
Right now would be a great opportunity for Biden to reach across the aisle and as a sign of reconciliation nominate Giuliani...for NASA...'s first manned mission to the Sun.
Post by: Badger on November 23, 2020, 07:57:08 PM
So he did some good stuff and quite lot of fairly questionable stuff. Not very hopey-changey or or even swampy-drainy, but he's a big city mayor; I accept that he's not the firebrand catalyst for socialist overthrow that Badger would like to see, but he also doesn't seem to be particularly worse than the average politician.
Fair enough. I scanned down the link you gave me without reading or investigating each one in any detail. I'm perfectly willing to accept there might be reasons he's bad, I just think that far left and far right have squealed sufficiently about Obama and Clinton and anyone associated with them that I've reached the point of not listening to them shouting "Wolf!" any more.Depressingly predictable reply
Post by: Badger on November 23, 2020, 07:58:45 PM
Post by: Johnny English on November 23, 2020, 08:03:54 PM
Whom among us has not covered up the murder of a teenager by police? Pobody's nerfect after all.
Here's a thought. Maybe the answer to "why is this guy bad?" shouldn't be "google it" (I did) or "here's an article listing a whole bunch of things he did wrong, like build a police station and be on the wrong end of a teacher's strike and a bunch of other things besides, oh and that thing with the kid".
You're on the same path as the Q clowns. If you want your opinions considered perhaps try sharing them like an intelligent adult instead of "hur dur google here's a funny picture Clintons bad".
Post by: Badger on November 23, 2020, 08:06:53 PM
Here's a thought. Maybe the answer to "why is this guy bad?" shouldn't be "google it" (I did) or "here's an article listing a whole bunch of things he did wrong, like build a police station and be on the wrong end of a teacher's strike and a bunch of other things besides, oh and that thing with the kid".Yes you've made it clear that you consider my tone more offensive than one of the most odious Democrats alive
You're on the same path as the Q clowns. If you want your opinions considered perhaps try sharing them like an intelligent adult instead of "hur dur google here's a funny picture Clintons bad".
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 23, 2020, 08:09:03 PM
What's the objection to Emanuel, other than he's tight with Obama and the Clintons?
He’s one of the worst politicians out there. The people of Chicago freaking despise him.
Anyone defending him falls squarely into the category of “whatever my team does is good because they’re my team”
Post by: Badger on November 23, 2020, 08:09:30 PM
He’s one of the worst politicians out there. The people of Chicago freaking despise him.Yeah but being rude about him is equally bad.
Anyone defending him falls squarely into the category of “whatever my team does is good because they’re my team”
Post by: Johnny English on November 23, 2020, 08:11:53 PM
He’s one of the worst politicians out there. The people of Chicago freaking despise him.
Anyone defending him falls squarely into the category of “whatever my team does is good because they’re my team”
I'm not remotely defending him. I didn't know anything about him, which is why I asked the question. It was a fairly simple one to answer, which Cato did. I suppose I should just be happy that Badger didn't try and do it through the medium of expressive TikTok or whatever he's using for political discussion this week.
Post by: Badger on November 23, 2020, 08:14:30 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on November 23, 2020, 08:16:53 PM
Post by: d sw0rdz on November 23, 2020, 08:48:34 PM
it's not even the offseason yet
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 23, 2020, 08:51:58 PM
the last two pages were hella gay
it's not even the offseason yet
It is in all but name.
Post by: Badger on November 23, 2020, 08:54:04 PM
Post by: Badger on November 24, 2020, 11:58:52 AM
https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1331295169417781249?s=09
Post by: Badger on November 24, 2020, 04:46:46 PM
https://twitter.com/alexi/status/1331335148953071617?s=19
Post by: Badger on November 29, 2020, 04:12:43 PM
In b4 "I've never heard of her but she doesn't seem bad"
Post by: mj2sexay on November 29, 2020, 04:19:25 PM
Should I bother posting a critique of Neera Tanden getting OMB?
In b4 "I've never heard of her but she doesn't seem bad"
I know we hate this for vastly different reasons but JFC.
At the very least I've been enjoying chiding my "we're gonna hold em accountable!" leftist friends who don't understand that they just got pimped for a vote so hard that the DNC may as well have used their tongues for toilet paper.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 29, 2020, 04:19:57 PM
Edit: also CFAP censoring their own employees to placate AIPAC, forgot about that one.
Post by: Badger on November 29, 2020, 04:28:50 PM
"The Democratic Party is less a political party in pursuit of particular policy goals than a professional association organized to defend and advance the careers of its most valued members."
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 01, 2020, 10:57:24 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/01/neera-tanden-deletes-tweets-office-of-management-and-budget-nominee)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 01, 2020, 04:24:38 PM
This observation, made over a year ago, basically covers most of the picks so far.
"The Democratic Party is less a political party in pursuit of particular policy goals than a professional association organized to defend and advance the careers of its most valued members."
2 party system sucks. Both parties freaking suck and most people spend their time rationalizing their vote as “well I can’t vote for the other candidate/party”
/woke centrist
Post by: Badger on December 01, 2020, 07:10:23 PM
https://twitter.com/NewsweekCulture/status/1333858106942648327?s=19
Post by: Badger on December 03, 2020, 07:00:25 PM
https://twitter.com/BidenHarrisHats/status/1334586625192497152?s=19
Post by: bojanglesman on December 03, 2020, 07:11:44 PM
Post by: insanity on December 03, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
For a sec there I thought the campaign was selling that. Just some douche on amazon.Yeah I was about to day for fucks sake, but its just some average joe trying to make a dime
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 04, 2020, 10:46:25 AM
Shoot me in the freaking face
https://twitter.com/BidenHarrisHats/status/1334586625192497152?s=19
What the freak lol
Post by: MBGreen on December 04, 2020, 11:01:55 AM
Shoot me in the freaking face
https://twitter.com/BidenHarrisHats/status/1334586625192497152?s=19
christmas gift idea for mj2sexay
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 04, 2020, 11:29:24 AM
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President-elect Joe Biden on Thursday revealed that he broke his foot tripping on a rug after a shower as he chased one of his dogs and grabbed its tail.
Biden’s campaign previously explained the hairline fracture by saying Biden fell while playing with the dog, but did not mention the shower or tugging the animal’s tail.
The injury requires Biden, who turned 78 last month, to wear a boot for weeks.
“What happened was I got out of the shower. I got a dog and anybody who’s been around my house knows — dropped, little pup dropped a ball in front of me. And for me to grab the ball,” Biden told CNN journalist Jake Tapper in his first post-election joint interview with Vice President-elect Kamala Harris.
“And I’m walking through this little alleyway to get to the bedroom. And I grabbed the ball like this and he ran. And I’m joking, running after him and grab his tail. And what happened was that he slid on a throw rug. And I tripped on the rug he slid on. That’s what happened. Oh man, not a very exciting story.”
NY Post
Post by: MBGreen on December 04, 2020, 11:32:37 AM
NY Post
You guys are in good hands
Post by: bojanglesman on December 04, 2020, 11:33:48 AM
You guys are in better hands
Post by: Johnny English on December 04, 2020, 05:44:52 PM
Post by: Badger on December 05, 2020, 07:48:33 AM
Imagine Trump having enough basic humanity to actually play with a dog.This is not a specific reaction to what you said so please don't take it that way, but I'm already sick of "there's gonna be a dog in the White House again!" being celebrated as a thing anyone gives a excrement about.
Post by: bojanglesman on December 05, 2020, 08:19:40 AM
This is not a specific reaction to what you said so please don't take it that way, but I'm already sick of "there's gonna be a dog in the White House again!" being celebrated as a thing anyone gives a excrement about.Biden 2024(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201205/52dc7de528bd6ba2e3cba36b23f4d3d0.jpg)
Post by: Badger on December 05, 2020, 06:19:47 PM
Biden 2024(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201205/52dc7de528bd6ba2e3cba36b23f4d3d0.jpg)You son of a bitch, I'm in!
Post by: bojanglesman on December 05, 2020, 07:56:53 PM
You son of a bitch, I'm in!Haha, yes!
Post by: Badger on December 08, 2020, 12:26:40 PM
https://twitter.com/business/status/1336141737098678272?s=19
Post by: IATA on December 08, 2020, 01:18:59 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on December 10, 2020, 11:32:09 AM
Quote
They also plan to have the building — which has seen numerous virus outbreaks among staffers and top officials this year— meticulously sanitized.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201210/f97f470a7392569beb782888696da8b3.gif)
Because the coronavirus can linger on surfaces for multiple days, a team deployed by the General Services Administration will go over every part of the White House's East and West Wings touched by human hands in the hours after Trump departs and Biden moves in, a spokesperson from the agency confirmed to POLITICO. That includes plans to "thoroughly clean and disinfect" all furniture, doorknobs, handrails and light switches, before Biden and his team move in. Additionally, a private contractor will provide "disinfectant misting services" to clear the air of lingering droplets.
Post by: delavan on December 10, 2020, 03:29:05 PM
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They also plan to have the building — which has seen numerous virus outbreaks among staffers and top officials this year— meticulously sanitized.https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/09/biden-covid-safety-transition-444040
Because the coronavirus can linger on surfaces for multiple days, a team deployed by the General Services Administration will go over every part of the White House's East and West Wings touched by human hands in the hours after Trump departs and Biden moves in, a spokesperson from the agency confirmed to POLITICO. That includes plans to "thoroughly clean and disinfect" all furniture, doorknobs, handrails and light switches, before Biden and his team move in. Additionally, a private contractor will provide "disinfectant misting services" to clear the air of lingering droplets.
They could've downplayed this and had a built-in mulligan in place in case Joe & Co. tested positive post Jan. 20th.
#trumpresidue
Post by: Badger on December 12, 2020, 04:21:11 PM
-Joe Biden explaining to civil rights leaders the best example of racial progress he could come up with
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 15, 2020, 02:13:02 PM
Post by: Badger on December 15, 2020, 04:41:47 PM
Mayor Pete tapped by Biden for Transportation Secretary.What a nice little transactional gift in exchange for dropping out and endorsing him.
At least it's not Rahm.
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 15, 2020, 04:47:12 PM
What a nice little transactional gift in exchange for dropping out and endorsing him.
At least it's not Rahm.
Meh.
Having the massive nerd run the transportation department is probably a good call.
Post by: Badger on December 15, 2020, 04:54:27 PM
Meh.His only qualification is being a blue MAGA celebrity. Like I said, this is his payment for dropping out.
Having the massive nerd run the transportation department is probably a good call.
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 15, 2020, 05:16:17 PM
His only qualification is being a blue MAGA celebrity. Like I said, this is his payment for dropping out.
And like I said, Meh.
Post by: Johnny English on December 15, 2020, 06:27:09 PM
And like I said, Meh.
Badger is not willing to accept anyone as Transportation Secretary who doesn't have the explicit agenda of making all public transit free for everyone (actually not a terrible policy for a variety of economic reasons) and taxing private vehicle ownership to pay for it (also not the worst theoretical idea but in reality unworkable).
Post by: bojanglesman on December 15, 2020, 06:48:36 PM
Post by: Badger on December 15, 2020, 06:52:32 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on December 15, 2020, 07:04:08 PM
Mayo Pete for Transportation is equivalent to Ben Carson for HUD and it's embarrassing to pretend otherwise.Maybe Biden thought Transportation was one of those newfangled sexual orientation words and thought Pete would be good cuz he's gay.
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 15, 2020, 07:05:20 PM
Mayo Pete for Transportation is equivalent to Ben Carson for HUD and it's embarrassing to pretend otherwise.
Not even close.
Post by: Johnny English on December 15, 2020, 07:26:09 PM
Mayo Pete for Transportation is equivalent to Ben Carson for HUD and it's embarrassing to pretend otherwise.
On the one hand I feel like a city in Indiana with a population of 100,000 doesn't really bring the kind of transportation expertise that the federal role should require, but at the same time at least being a mayor of said city carries some experience and knowledge of the field which automatically elevates him above Carson whose experience of housing was "well, I've always lived in a house".
I think that roles like this are probably more about experience of political resource management than in theatre knowledge. You don't refuse to let an Infantry officer become a general because he never commanded a helicopter squadron.
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 15, 2020, 08:17:00 PM
But I agree with him here. This is almost laughably a "Thanks buddy, here's your participation trophy" appointment.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 15, 2020, 10:19:45 PM
"15 years ago, could you turn on the television & see three or four out of seven commercials be biracial commercials? You wanna know where society's going, watch entertainment. Watch the profit motive. Why are these commercials - so many of them biracial?"
-Joe Biden explaining to civil rights leaders the best example of racial progress he could come up with
You cannot tell me that is an actual quote
Post by: Badger on December 16, 2020, 10:14:10 AM
You cannot tell me that is an actual quoteThere's video
https://theintercept.com/2020/12/10/biden-audio-meeting-civil-rights-leaders/
It's just them asking him to use executive power and him shouting that they aren't grateful for everything he's done for the coloreds and various non sequiturs
https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1337881796114063361?s=19
Post by: delavan on December 16, 2020, 12:06:10 PM
You cannot tell me that is an actual quote^ From the guy who gave us the cockeyed "if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black" assumption?
On the one hand I feel like a city in Indiana with a population of 100,000 doesn't really bring the kind of transportation expertise that the federal role should require, but at the same time at least being a mayor of said city carries some experience and knowledge of the field which automatically elevates him above Carson whose experience of housing was "well, I've always lived in a house".
I think that roles like this are probably more about experience of political resource management than in theatre knowledge. You don't refuse to let an Infantry officer become a general because he never commanded a helicopter squadron.
Pete's South Bendover, Ind. mayoral background should actually suit him well. 'Transportation' should not include dirt roads?
relax, JAJ
Post by: bojanglesman on December 16, 2020, 12:30:31 PM
^
relax, JAJ
What does (*googles Jaj....) a mountainous village in the Byblos District of Mount Lebanon Governorate, Lebanon have to do with this?
Post by: Johnny English on December 16, 2020, 12:31:42 PM
What does (*googles Jaj....) a mountainous village in the Byblos District of Mount Lebanon Governorate, Lebanon have to do with this?
Just A Joke. C'mon Bo, get with the kids.
Post by: bojanglesman on December 16, 2020, 12:35:09 PM
Just A Joke. C'mon Bo, get with the kids.I'm already borderline retarded, I need a slang guide or some excrement.
Post by: reuben on December 16, 2020, 05:57:59 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 16, 2020, 06:05:30 PM
BTK, JAJ, 3-2-2... cut it out you jargony bastards
IDK WTF BRB AFK
Post by: bojanglesman on December 16, 2020, 06:07:47 PM
BTK, JAJ, 3-2-2... cut it out you jargony bastardsBo thanks you.for this post.
Post by: delavan on December 16, 2020, 10:50:55 PM
BTK, JAJ, 3-2-2... cut it out YJB
fixed
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 17, 2020, 01:28:29 PM
Post by: ons on December 17, 2020, 03:54:47 PM
Haaland tapped for Secretary of the Interior.
Augurs well for this administration's chances in the Champion's League.
Post by: bojanglesman on December 17, 2020, 04:03:17 PM
Deb Haaland tapped for Secretary of the Interior.
JFIF tapped it too.
Post by: Johnny English on December 17, 2020, 04:28:03 PM
Augurs well for this administration's chances in the Champion's League.
You made that joke just for me, didn't you?
Post by: Badger on December 17, 2020, 05:32:34 PM
Deb Haaland tapped for Secretary of the Interior.I don't have anything bad to say about this.
She and Becerra are probably the best so far.
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 17, 2020, 05:54:17 PM
I don't have anything bad to say about this.
She and Becerra are probably the best so far.
I can’t believe that there would be a scenario for me to say this sentence but I think Regan will be good for the EPA.
Interior should be run by an indigenous person for the foreseeable future.
Post by: bojanglesman on December 17, 2020, 06:28:41 PM
I can’t believe that there would be a scenario for me to say this sentence but I think Regan will be good for the EPA...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201218/1f36a5d214853be3b8772d7dce6fe95d.gif)
Interior should be run by an indigenous person for the foreseeable future.
Post by: Badger on December 22, 2020, 07:24:31 PM
Badger is not willing to accept anyone as Transportation Secretary who doesn't have the explicit agenda of making all public transit free for everyone (actually not a terrible policy for a variety of economic reasons) and taxing private vehicle ownership to pay for it (also not the worst theoretical idea but in reality unworkable).MOAR CARS, MILLIONS OF NEW CARS
https://twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/status/1341143131350323201?s=19
Post by: Badger on December 26, 2020, 06:06:59 PM
Post by: Badger on January 04, 2021, 05:54:27 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210104/1432d2ef2dfa74960b4422d1d3e56fff.jpg)
Post by: Johnny English on January 04, 2021, 06:00:52 PM
Post by: Badger on January 04, 2021, 06:05:32 PM
Ha ha freak off, that's made up. It has to be.https://www.elle.com/culture/a34225242/kamala-harris-interview/
Post by: Johnny English on January 04, 2021, 06:11:13 PM
https://www.elle.com/culture/a34225242/kamala-harris-interview/
I can't decide what the bigger problem is here: that politicians come out with excrement like this and expect people to swallow it, or that they're probably right.
Post by: Badger on January 04, 2021, 07:09:23 PM
https://twitter.com/ayanaBnuby/status/1346232028459659264?s=19
Post by: mj2sexay on January 05, 2021, 10:36:42 AM
freak that corrupt queynte.
Post by: delavan on January 05, 2021, 02:28:18 PM
I prefer to be more outraged over the fact that she withheld Brady material in a staunch effort to keep innocent people in jail.
freak that corrupt queynte.
mj, could you please expound on that? Wouldn't prosecutorial misconduct qualify as a Brady violation and result in cases being dropped (and the jailed released)? thx
edit: 'qualify'
Post by: delavan on January 05, 2021, 05:19:42 PM
Shoot me in the freaking face
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210104/1432d2ef2dfa74960b4422d1d3e56fff.jpg)
From the Martin Luther King Playboy interview by Alex Haley, Jan., 1965:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/alex-haleys-1965-playboy-interview-with-rev-martin-luther-king-jr
I never will forget a moment in Birmingham when a white policeman accosted a little Negro girl, seven or eight years old, who was walking in a demonstration with her mother. “What do you want?” the policeman asked her gruffly, and the little girl looked him straight in the eye and answered, “Fee-dom.” She couldn’t even pronounce it, but she knew. It was beautiful! Many times when I have been in sorely trying situations, the memory of that little one has come into my mind, and has buoyed me.
Post by: IATA on January 05, 2021, 10:08:25 PM
@elivalley
·
2h
Biden team starting to panic they might get the means to implement change
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 06, 2021, 11:17:43 AM
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/06/biden-to-tap-merrick-garland-for-attorney-general-455410 (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/06/biden-to-tap-merrick-garland-for-attorney-general-455410)
Post by: Badger on January 13, 2021, 07:33:59 PM
https://twitter.com/jackshafer/status/1349512652565917696?s=19
Post by: bojanglesman on January 13, 2021, 07:35:36 PM
Biden is FINISHEDTIL a new term for Trump terrorists: Y'all Qaeda.
https://twitter.com/jackshafer/status/1349512652565917696?s=19
Post by: Badger on January 13, 2021, 07:37:20 PM
TIL a new term for Trump terrorists: Y'all Qaeda.Teahadist
Post by: Johnny English on January 13, 2021, 07:58:16 PM
TIL a new term for Trump terrorists: Y'all Qaeda.
Vanilla Isis
Meal Team Six
Gravy Seals
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 13, 2021, 09:45:34 PM
Biden is FINISHED
https://twitter.com/jackshafer/status/1349512652565917696?s=19
Greene: Madame speaker, According to the agenda you have debate for my motion set to start, "As soon as everyone leaves."
Pelosi: And not a minute later.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 14, 2021, 05:04:13 AM
Greene: Madame speaker, According to the agenda you have debate for my motion set to start, "As soon as everyone leaves."Pelosi funbags: Hey, I'll give you the mike as soon as I make this brief announcement.
Pelosi: And not a minute later.
Qtard: All right. Make it quick. - Thank you.
funbags: Gentlemen. Wet nightie contest, poolside, in five minutes.
....entire floor evacuates, cheering, to pool to check out 80's titties.
Post by: Badger on January 16, 2021, 04:31:15 PM
Post by: Badger on January 16, 2021, 04:35:14 PM
Post by: delavan on January 16, 2021, 05:20:07 PM
https://twitter.com/BGrueskin/status/1350558458609860609?s=19
source: U.S. News & World Report (left of center) https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/us-news-world-report/
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-01-16/some-6-500-honduran-migrants-in-caravans-traveling-north-to-guatemala-officials-estimate
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 16, 2021, 10:17:27 PM
Those multi million dollar funbags
Post by: delavan on January 17, 2021, 04:13:04 PM
Pelosi’s funbags make my heart hurt </3
Those multi million dollar funbags
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Nancy_Pelosi_%2847999017208%29.jpg/320px-Nancy_Pelosi_%2847999017208%29.jpg)
Post by: bojanglesman on January 17, 2021, 04:22:59 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 18, 2021, 06:04:51 AM
The amount of people interested in this storyline is disturbing
Post by: Badger on January 19, 2021, 03:14:48 PM
https://twitter.com/kgosztola/status/1351635431666941957?s=19
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 20, 2021, 09:43:43 AM
Post by: Badger on January 20, 2021, 10:49:30 AM
HR 1
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1
Federal minimum wage increase
Lowered Medicare age (this is relatively simple to change but actually has potential downsides if it doesn't include easier/more lenient enrollment policy changes, I will nerd out on this if asked)
Post by: Johnny English on January 20, 2021, 10:49:56 AM
Interesting watching the President walk up the steps to the Capitol without his wife fleeing physical contact with him.
The real test is whether he can walk down a ramp.
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 20, 2021, 10:50:41 AM
Go ahead and nerd out.
Post by: Johnny English on January 20, 2021, 10:50:50 AM
In the interest of non-doomposting, what realistic positive things can we actually expect in the next 4 (more likely 2) years? Mostly because the Biden admin isn't willing to do more.
HR 1
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1
Federal minimum wage increase
Lowered Medicare age (this is relatively simple to change but actually has potential downsides if it doesn't include easier/more lenient enrollment policy changes, I will nerd out on this if asked)
Cheap fence parts for sale on government surplus websites
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 20, 2021, 10:51:03 AM
The real test is whether he can walk down a ramp.
There's already video evidence of that.
Post by: Johnny English on January 20, 2021, 10:56:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/PTkuWLr.png)
Post by: bojanglesman on January 20, 2021, 10:56:53 AM
In the interest of non-doomposting, what realistic positive things can we actually expect in the next 4 (more likely 2) years? Mostly because the Biden admin isn't willing to do more.
HR 1
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1
Federal minimum wage increase
Lowered Medicare age (this is relatively simple to change but actually has potential downsides if it doesn't include easier/more lenient enrollment policy changes, I will nerd out on this if asked)
..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210120/b3079445a0471231a5988847ed9d7f01.gif)
Post by: Johnny English on January 20, 2021, 11:00:22 AM
I am once again asking to be left the freak alone
Post by: d sw0rdz on January 20, 2021, 11:07:11 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Nk0jZPx.png)
I am once again asking to be left the freak alone
Bernie's looks like an old dude who took a wrong turn on the way to the post office and accidentally found himself at an inauguration:
(https://i.imgur.com/PTkuWLr.png)
my president
Post by: MBGreen on January 20, 2021, 11:07:47 AM
my president
those aren't presidential mitts.
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 20, 2021, 11:08:31 AM
Post by: d sw0rdz on January 20, 2021, 11:09:57 AM
those aren't presidential mitts.
https://twitter.com/rubycramer/status/1351915535647330306?s=20
MY PRESIDENT
Post by: Johnny English on January 20, 2021, 11:15:35 AM
A lot of buble quotes for the guy Trump said would try to hurt God if he was elected.
Once again looking to Canadians for guidance, eh?
And I know someday that it'll all turn out
And you'll make me work, so we can work to work it out
And I promise you, kid, that I'll give so much more than I get
I just haven't met you yet
Sage words indeed.
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 20, 2021, 11:18:52 AM
Once again looking to Canadians for guidance, eh?
And I know someday that it'll all turn out
And you'll make me work, so we can work to work it out
And I promise you, kid, that I'll give so much more than I get
I just haven't met you yet
Sage words indeed.
I don't get the reference but I assume it has to do with the typo I just fixed.
Post by: Johnny English on January 20, 2021, 11:19:59 AM
I don't get the reference but I assume it has to do with the typo I just fixed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Buble
I promise you I googled the lyrics.
Post by: Badger on January 20, 2021, 11:21:16 AM
Elite thread title change for when it's time to slam his stupid policy moves.So currently the default Medicare age is 65. A common starting point is getting Part A (covers hospitalization only) and Part B (for things like doctor visits). Part A is free so taking it ASAP is a no brainer.
Go ahead and nerd out.
For people who are still working and have health insurance through their employer they may elect to not take Part B at 65, they're given a special enrollment period that lasts indefinitely while they're still both employed and insured by the employer, and they can enroll in Part B at the base premium once one of those things comes to an end.
In the event someone elects not to take Part B at 65 but doesn't have employer insurance in the meantime, they risk being penalized in the form of higher premiums if they enroll later. For example someone at 65 doesn't take Part B and isn't covered by a current employer plan, and then at age 69 they realize they ought to have it - they can be charged a 40% penalty (10% per year elapsed) on their premium price for not taking it earlier.
Personally I like policies that don't set people up to fail, and the lower starting age risks a greater penalty for the % of the population that is ignorant of the enrollment rules, which often overlaps with the population least able to afford paying any extra. So lowering the age really ought to come with a softening of those rules. There are a number of different ways it could be addressed but I'm not aware of any coupled with the age lowering proposal.
Even people who do remain employed and covered are eventually obligated to prove it later at the time they want to enroll, and increasing the likely number of years someone will remain in that status means more possible employer changes or gaps in coverage that make things messy when it comes time to submit proof.
In an age where an increasing number of enrollments are done online with no human interaction a lot of people never have this explained to them. Some are capable of doing the research, others are educated by their employer HR dept or through community outreach, but some always fall through the cracks and get screwed just because they didn't know the rules.
I don't know how well my concern translates here but I assure you I wouldn't be concerned if I didn't see enough of it already happening.
Edit: stuff like this is why I support single payer which covers you for your whole life, covers all medically necessary treatment, and cannot be taken away from you for any reason.
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 20, 2021, 11:23:48 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Buble
I promise you I googled the lyrics.
I didn't even know that he was Canadian. I didn't even think of him as existing when I read my own typo.
Post by: Badger on January 20, 2021, 11:38:28 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on January 20, 2021, 11:40:23 AM
My wife is watching in the other room, these people are boring and they should have invited Reverend Jeremiah Wright.
I'd have preferred the preacher from Coming to America.
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 20, 2021, 11:41:21 AM
Post by: d sw0rdz on January 20, 2021, 11:43:07 AM
Amanda Gorman was amazing.
she was v good
Post by: Heismanberg on January 20, 2021, 11:44:45 AM
Amanda Gorman was amazing.
Saleh should hire her
Post by: Derek Smalls on January 20, 2021, 11:46:05 AM
Post by: Johnny English on January 20, 2021, 11:46:58 AM
My wife is watching in the other room, these people are boring and they should have invited Reverend Jeremiah Wright.
For someone who was going to kill God, Biden seems to be doing a lot of derriere kissing towards the Almighty. Maybe he's just trying to lull him into a false sense of security.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 20, 2021, 11:48:59 AM
For someone who was going to kill God, Biden seems to be doing a lot of derriere kissing towards the Almighty. Maybe he's just trying to lull him into a false sense of security.
He is invoking God as an overture to the Texans front office to send Watson to NYJ.
Post by: Johnny English on January 20, 2021, 11:53:45 AM
He is invoking God as an overture to the Texans front office to send Watson to NYJ.
Is Scranton Eagles or Jets/Giants country? I know Pennsylvania is a bit fucked up on its geographical sporting loyalties.
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 20, 2021, 11:53:46 AM
He is invoking God as an overture to the Texans front office to send Watson to NYJ.
I have no idea why he would do this since he's an Eagles fan but that's the type of abuse of power I could get behind.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 20, 2021, 12:08:23 PM
Is Scranton Eagles or Jets/Giants country? I know Pennsylvania is a bit fucked up on its geographical sporting loyalties.
Shut up and assume I'm right.
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 20, 2021, 12:13:30 PM
Is Scranton Eagles or Jets/Giants country? I know Pennsylvania is a bit fucked up on its geographical sporting loyalties.
Firmly in Eagles territory.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 20, 2021, 12:13:38 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on January 20, 2021, 12:49:39 PM
Anyone check on mj? Is he getting through this?
HOW DARE YOU
Post by: Derek Smalls on January 20, 2021, 12:55:49 PM
Fun seeing a president not banned from Twitter.
Post by: Johnny English on January 20, 2021, 12:58:23 PM
Following a president on Twitter for the first time in 4+ years.
Fun seeing a president not banned from Twitter.
Does Biden even use Twitter? I'm guessing his account will just be filled with banalities posted by an intern. (Which is the correct way for a President to use social media IMO, not shitposting from the Resolute Desk whatever gibberish escapes his synapses at any given moment.)
Post by: Derek Smalls on January 20, 2021, 01:11:36 PM
Does Biden even use Twitter? I'm guessing his account will just be filled with banalities posted by an intern. (Which is the correct way for a President to use social media IMO, not shitposting from the Resolute Desk whatever gibberish escapes his synapses at any given moment.)I'm sure you're right, and I agree. But on principle, I feel good about myself that I could never be considered a "follower of Donald Trump," even on Twitter.
Post by: Badger on January 20, 2021, 01:13:20 PM
Does Biden even use Twitter? I'm guessing his account will just be filled with banalities posted by an intern. (Which is the correct way for a President to use social media IMO, not shitposting from the Resolute Desk whatever gibberish escapes his synapses at any given moment.)Clapping like seals for the bare minimum, yay.
Post by: Derek Smalls on January 20, 2021, 01:17:12 PM
Clapping like seals for the bare minimum, yay.The bar has sufficiently been lowered.
Post by: Johnny English on January 20, 2021, 01:38:08 PM
Clapping like seals for the bare minimum, yay.
I'd rather all world leaders kept their communications to official channels rather than swimming in the sea of turds, but if they must use Twitter then banalities should be the de facto standard.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 20, 2021, 01:44:57 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 20, 2021, 02:20:44 PM
Is Scranton Eagles or Jets/Giants country? I know Pennsylvania is a bit fucked up on its geographical sporting loyalties.
Scranton is muskrat hunting country
Post by: Johnny English on January 20, 2021, 02:22:01 PM
Scranton is muskrat hunting country
Scranton Muskrats is a believable HS football team name.
Post by: Badger on January 20, 2021, 02:26:35 PM
Scranton is muskrat hunting countryThey have a pretty good Chinese buffet on Commerce Blvd
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 20, 2021, 02:48:28 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on January 20, 2021, 03:42:24 PM
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AcceptableWhimsicalBullmastiff-small.gif)
Post by: Johnny English on January 20, 2021, 04:09:03 PM
In the interest of non-doomposting, what realistic positive things can we actually expect in the next 4 (more likely 2) years? Mostly because the Biden admin isn't willing to do more.
HR 1
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1
Federal minimum wage increase
Lowered Medicare age (this is relatively simple to change but actually has potential downsides if it doesn't include easier/more lenient enrollment policy changes, I will nerd out on this if asked)
Serious answer: I hope that they take immediate action to halt and roll back the granting of mining rights on sacred lands that was pushed through in the last few days.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jan/16/sacred-native-american-land-arizona-oak-flat
I'm sure this isn't the only instance.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 20, 2021, 06:06:50 PM
https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1351964881646444557?s=21
I’m here for China Joe
Post by: Badger on January 20, 2021, 06:38:20 PM
https://twitter.com/AriBerman/status/1352046825134575616?s=19
Post by: delavan on January 20, 2021, 06:44:55 PM
Anyone check on mj? Is he getting through this?
https://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/1351952799911669762
Post by: Badger on January 20, 2021, 06:59:37 PM
https://twitter.com/wordisbond/status/1351958065994555393?s=19
Post by: Johnny English on January 20, 2021, 07:42:08 PM
Biden has signed executive order rescinding Trump’s blatantly unconstitutional memorandum excluding undocumented immigrants from census count used for Congressional apportionment. Big step toward unrigging 2020 census
https://twitter.com/AriBerman/status/1352046825134575616?s=19
I'm here for Badger saying nice things about what Biden's doing because I don't think it will last long.
Post by: Badger on January 20, 2021, 08:06:50 PM
I'm here for Badger saying nice things about what Biden's doing because I don't think it will last long.Eventually he's going to run out of Trump EOs to undo.
Post by: d sw0rdz on January 20, 2021, 08:13:15 PM
https://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/1351952799911669762
what a fvckin tease. you know we wanna see that derriere gaga
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 20, 2021, 08:37:53 PM
Post by: delavan on January 20, 2021, 08:40:48 PM
what a fvckin tease. you know we wanna see that derriere gaga
Spencer Rattler in drag?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Ashley_Biden%2C_Joe_Biden%2C_Lady_Gaga_and_Jill_Biden.jpg)
Post by: Heismanberg on January 20, 2021, 10:29:42 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on January 21, 2021, 08:40:40 AM
https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1351969134737809408?s=19 (https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1351969134737809408?s=19)
Lol, The Daily Show. I remember when I was 12.
https://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/1351952799911669762
A gesture almost as hollow as the person making it. (Gaga, not del).
Post by: IATA on January 21, 2021, 09:04:27 AM
Post by: MBGreen on January 21, 2021, 09:11:07 AM
Spencer Rattler in drag?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Ashley_Biden%2C_Joe_Biden%2C_Lady_Gaga_and_Jill_Biden.jpg)
oh excrement...i can't unsee that now. Spencer Rattler is a bond villain.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 21, 2021, 09:33:03 AM
A gesture almost as hollow as the person making it. (Gaga, not del).
Umm ain’t nothing hollow bout them fat hoo-ha lips
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 21, 2021, 10:20:43 AM
Post by: Badger on January 21, 2021, 11:17:04 AM
https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1351903264548261890?s=19
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 21, 2021, 11:24:13 AM
#ImpeachBiden
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 21, 2021, 11:24:33 AM
lmao
https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1351903264548261890?s=19
Why tho
Post by: Badger on January 21, 2021, 11:37:13 AM
Why thoYoonity
Post by: delavan on January 21, 2021, 11:46:33 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.html
Post by: bojanglesman on January 21, 2021, 11:47:23 AM
Why tho
House says they will try to pass it next week, but I think the March part is probably based on trying to get it through the Senate and all the bullshit that will entail. If there are any changes to the bill in the Senate, it will have to go back to the House to vote on that. It's not like they are just waiting until March to get to it.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 21, 2021, 11:52:07 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/us/protests-portland-seattle-biden.html
Biden’s Trump’s America
Post by: Jumbo on January 21, 2021, 12:08:34 PM
Biden’s Trump’s America
Kamala's Biden's Trump's America Fowever
Post by: Badger on January 21, 2021, 12:46:46 PM
Kamala's Biden's Trump's America FoweverWiot contwol
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 21, 2021, 04:02:23 PM
#NotMyPresident
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 21, 2021, 04:04:46 PM
About time.
Post by: Badger on January 21, 2021, 04:38:41 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1352375131641942019?s=21Sandy Hook trending right now because of her (she had called it a false flag)
About time.
Post by: Badger on January 21, 2021, 04:55:18 PM
Trump's appointed director resigned yesterday before Biden could fire her. If not for their push to dismantle the whole agency she would have been around 3 more years.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/banking-law/kraninger-resigns-from-cfpb-allowing-bidens-team-to-take-over
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 22, 2021, 07:59:01 AM
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/cm0GRfnWDVaa6SMJ6N/200.gif)
Post by: Johnny English on January 25, 2021, 02:16:46 PM
Post by: Badger on January 25, 2021, 02:50:17 PM
FAO Badger: important news breaks (https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/535643-first-dogs-arrive-at-white-house)Some very stupid people are actually delighted about this
Post by: Johnny English on January 25, 2021, 02:55:37 PM
Some very stupid people are actually delighted about this
I find all dogs absolutely delightful and will happily get lost on The Dodo for an hour watching videos of dogs being rescued and rehomed. I can even see their value as part of how one judges a President, because many people believe that a person's attitude towards animals is reflective of their attitude towards people and that someone who isn't warm and affectionate towards animals isn't going to be any better towards people. I am one of those people with that view, and I don't trust people who don't like dogs.
I think it is enough for us to know that a leader has dogs. I don't really think we need to know their names or their backgrounds, and I don't think that their arrival at the White House needs to have a moment of time dedicated to it in the press or by WH media staff.
Still, though. They are great dogs, and they're rescues. Good for Joe.
Post by: reuben on January 25, 2021, 02:58:00 PM
Post by: Badger on January 25, 2021, 03:54:30 PM
I find all dogs absolutely delightful and will happily get lost on The Dodo for an hour watching videos of dogs being rescued and rehomed. I can even see their value as part of how one judges a President, because many people believe that a person's attitude towards animals is reflective of their attitude towards people and that someone who isn't warm and affectionate towards animals isn't going to be any better towards people. I am one of those people with that view, and I don't trust people who don't like dogs.No, it doesn't matter at all. You'd probably agree and see how vapid it is if Trump had a dog and you heard about it for more than 5 seconds.
I think it is enough for us to know that a leader has dogs. I don't really think we need to know their names or their backgrounds, and I don't think that their arrival at the White House needs to have a moment of time dedicated to it in the press or by WH media staff.
Still, though. They are great dogs, and they're rescues. Good for Joe.
Post by: Johnny English on January 25, 2021, 03:59:44 PM
No, it doesn't matter at all. You'd probably agree and see how vapid it is if Trump had a dog and you heard about it for more than 5 seconds.
I do agree, although if Trump had a dog I'd be concerned for its wellbeing. I am agreeing with you that any coverage of Biden's dogs is stupid and unnecessary.
Post by: Badger on January 25, 2021, 05:19:19 PM
I do agree, although if Trump had a dog I'd be concerned for its wellbeing. I am agreeing with you that any coverage of Biden's dogs is stupid and unnecessary.Agree harder
Post by: Johnny English on January 25, 2021, 05:42:07 PM
Agree harder
You will take mild agreement and be happy with it.
Post by: Badger on January 25, 2021, 05:58:43 PM
https://www.vox.com/2021/1/24/22247390/lauren-wolfe-new-york-times-tweet-chills
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 25, 2021, 06:11:33 PM
No, it doesn't matter at all. You'd probably agree and see how vapid it is if Trump had a dog and you heard about it for more than 5 seconds.
You're really not going to like the local coverage about Biden stopping for bagels after mass vs. Trump only visiting one DC restaurant in four years as POTUS and that being his own steakhouse in his shitty, overpriced hotel.
Post by: Johnny English on January 25, 2021, 06:11:34 PM
Curious to see the takes on this story here:
https://www.vox.com/2021/1/24/22247390/lauren-wolfe-new-york-times-tweet-chills
I'm a little confused by it, TBH. Is the suggestion that the NYT, noted centre-left celebrant and outspoken opponent of all things Trump, fired a contract staffer because she expressed a mildly happy sentiment about the arrival of a centre-left President and Trump fans were unhappy about her doing so?
Post by: Johnny English on January 25, 2021, 06:14:05 PM
You're really not going to like the local coverage about Biden stopping for bagels after mass vs. Trump only visiting one DC restaurant in four years as POTUS and that being his own steakhouse in his shitty, overpriced hotel.
I think it's OK if people take a short while to celebrate the return of normality and reason and basic levels of human function to the White House.
Post by: Badger on January 25, 2021, 06:24:02 PM
I'm a little confused by it, TBH. Is the suggestion that the NYT, noted centre-left celebrant and outspoken opponent of all things Trump, fired a contract staffer because she expressed a mildly happy sentiment about the arrival of a centre-left President and Trump fans were unhappy about her doing so?My takeaway was that her fawning tweet was embarrassing but probably not worthy of a firing, but I also don't care that she was fired.
Post by: Johnny English on January 25, 2021, 06:34:22 PM
My takeaway was that her fawning tweet was embarrassing but probably not worthy of a firing, but I also don't care that she was fired.
Nor I, but I don't understand why anyone would think that the Times of all papers would fire her for being on brand in her own time.
Post by: Badger on January 25, 2021, 07:45:54 PM
https://twitter.com/ReutersUS/status/1353835154519838721?s=19
Post by: Derek Smalls on January 26, 2021, 11:23:16 AM
Curious to see the takes on this story here:Another victim of conservative cancel culture.
https://www.vox.com/2021/1/24/22247390/lauren-wolfe-new-york-times-tweet-chills
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 26, 2021, 01:11:21 PM
Post by: delavan on January 26, 2021, 01:11:58 PM
Curious to see the takes on this story here:
https://www.vox.com/2021/1/24/22247390/lauren-wolfe-new-york-times-tweet-chills
Vox-like allusive.
Post by: Johnny English on January 26, 2021, 04:23:27 PM
Quote
Kathleen Sgamma, president of the Western Energy Alliance, which represents oil and gas drillers in Western states, said the expected executive order is intended to delay drilling on federal lands to the point where it is no longer viable.
“The environmental left is leading the agenda at the White House when it comes to energy and environment issues,″ she said
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-climate-climate-change-environment-energy-and-the-environment-71001caf45220548deb26343d3889816
Post by: IATA on January 26, 2021, 05:50:00 PM
It's funny how they say these things like they think they sound bad.The environmental left. Hahahahahah that's certainly something.
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-climate-climate-change-environment-energy-and-the-environment-71001caf45220548deb26343d3889816
Post by: Badger on January 26, 2021, 05:56:52 PM
The environmental left. Hahahahahah that's certainly something.What's the environmental right? Rolling coal and whatabouting China's emissions?
Post by: IATA on January 26, 2021, 06:02:37 PM
What's the environmental right? Rolling coal?Filling swamps with concrete with the animals still in the swamps to build a parking lots for cash advance places.
Post by: Badger on January 30, 2021, 08:49:24 AM
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens-sign-language-interpreter-runs-pro-trump-translation-group-2021-1?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sf-bi-main
Post by: Badger on January 31, 2021, 03:21:51 PM
Post by: reuben on January 31, 2021, 03:43:43 PM
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1346494859872374794?s=19
Unnecessary, buy $GME
Post by: d sw0rdz on January 31, 2021, 06:06:18 PM
Post by: Johnny English on January 31, 2021, 06:43:14 PM
is my boy JE the board's version of joe biden? i feel like he has had a lot of 'come on, man' moments recently
u wot m8
Post by: reuben on January 31, 2021, 06:47:47 PM
u wot jack
Post by: Badger on February 02, 2021, 05:39:54 AM
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1356435526497300480?s=19
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 02, 2021, 05:54:07 AM
I'm going to become the joker
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1356435526497300480?s=19
You're going to become an incel?
Post by: bojanglesman on February 02, 2021, 06:00:13 AM
Post by: Badger on February 02, 2021, 07:58:38 AM
Rahm Emanual must give elite BJs to remain relevant.Not giving him a job is the bare minimum level of decent decision making and yet his name keeps coming up. I can't think of a material reason why we keep seeing smoke if there's no fire here.
Post by: Badger on February 04, 2021, 10:50:41 PM
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1357402795100504065?s=19
Post by: Johnny English on February 04, 2021, 11:42:30 PM
This is goodWhat is, the White House action or Bernie Sanders' support for it?
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1357402795100504065?s=19
Post by: dcm1602 on February 05, 2021, 01:42:04 AM
Who was in the white house when this war in Yemen started?
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 05, 2021, 04:29:23 AM
So I'm a little confused
Who was in the white house when this war in Yemen started?
Not Bernie.
My counter ask would be who ha on the White House for the majority of it?
Post by: Badger on February 05, 2021, 05:36:56 AM
So I'm a little confusedSome war criminal
Who was in the white house when this war in Yemen started?
Post by: dcm1602 on February 05, 2021, 08:02:46 AM
Not Bernie.
My counter ask would be who ha on the White House for the majority of it?
Kind of irrelevant when you stroke yourself for stopping involvement in a war you could have stopped 7 years ago
Would you guys be applauding Cheney if he got elected president after Bush and ended the Iraq war
Post by: Johnny English on February 05, 2021, 08:12:07 AM
Kind of irrelevant when you stroke yourself for stopping involvement in a war you could have stopped 7 years ago
Would you guys be applauding Cheney if he got elected president after Bush and ended the Iraq war
The Yemeni crisis came out of the Arab Spring, when several different groups attempted to overthrow the President who had been there since forever. The UN tried to broker peace, with varying degrees of success, but it never lasted. The Saudis got the President to resign and are trying to back their preferred team into power, and Trump's arms deal with them in 2017 helped them to enforce that.
I'm not sure what you think Obama and Biden could have done differently during the first years of that conflict to have stopped it?
Post by: Badger on February 05, 2021, 08:14:18 AM
Kind of irrelevant when you stroke yourself for stopping involvement in a war you could have stopped 7 years agoI'm applauding an end to our involvement, I'm not applauding Biden for doing bare minimum not-heinous excrement.
Would you guys be applauding Cheney if he got elected president after Bush and ended the Iraq war
Post by: Badger on February 05, 2021, 08:16:39 AM
I'm not sure what you think Obama and Biden could have done differently during the first years of that conflict to have stopped it?
They could have not assisted KSA. Obama authorized material support in 2015.
Post by: Johnny English on February 05, 2021, 08:22:49 AM
They could have not assisted KSA. Obama authorized material support in 2015.
I have some sympathy with that view, but I think that the crisis in 2021 is very different to the one in 2015. Back then it was a hardline Islamic group who literally have Death To The US as part of their core mantra attempting to take control of a highly strategic part of the Gulf; I fully accept that interventionism generally creates more problems than it solves, but at the time it wasn't much more than a blockade.
Still, even if I accept the argument that the US shouldn't have become involved at all, the question though was what Obama and Biden could or should have done to stop the conflict. Whether the US sent ships to support a naval blockade or not wouldn't have materially impacted whether the crisis happened.
Post by: Badger on February 05, 2021, 09:03:50 AM
I have some sympathy with that view, but I think that the crisis in 2021 is very different to the one in 2015. Back then it was a hardline Islamic group who literally have Death To The US as part of their core mantra attempting to take control of a highly strategic part of the Gulf; I fully accept that interventionism generally creates more problems than it solves, but at the time it wasn't much more than a blockade.
Still, even if I accept the argument that the US shouldn't have become involved at all, the question though was what Obama and Biden could or should have done to stop the conflict. Whether the US sent ships to support a naval blockade or not wouldn't have materially impacted whether the crisis happened.
They could have not helped facilitate it, it's actually not that nuanced.
Post by: Johnny English on February 05, 2021, 09:30:24 AM
They could have not helped facilitate it, it's actually not that nuanced.
Global version of the trolley problem. Do you intervene to try and minimize the damage, and risk making it worse, or do you do nothing and let a bloody civil war just happen?
I don't know that I've ever seen a Middle Eastern political question that had a clear right and wrong answer.
Post by: mj2sexay on February 05, 2021, 09:33:14 AM
Global version of the trolley problem. Do you intervene to try and minimize the damage, and risk making it worse, or do you do nothing and let a bloody civil war just happen?
I don't know that I've ever seen a Middle Eastern political question that had a clear right and wrong answer.
In all sincerity and respect to those affected by Lockerie because I wouldn't give a freak about the larger ramifications of seeing the person responsible for a death of my friend or family member sodomized with the business end of a rifle before being executed.
Intervening in Libya to effectuate regime change was very clearly the wrong answer.
Post by: Johnny English on February 05, 2021, 09:44:49 AM
In all sincerity and respect to those affected by Lockerie because I wouldn't give a freak about the larger ramifications of seeing the person responsible for a death of my friend or family member sodomized with the business end of a rifle before being executed.
Intervening in Libya to effectuate regime change was very clearly the wrong answer.
I think that direct military intervention is very rarely the correct answer unless it's literally the only one left on the table, which for Western countries is almost never the case in the Middle East. So yes, I agree with you on that.
I also think that indirect assistance with the aim of preventing or ending a humanitarian crisis is a much more nuanced conversation. It frequently results in knock on consequences, some foreseeable and some less so, and it's rarely done without other far less worthy agendas also being in play, but again - doing nothing when in possession of the power to do something is still an active decision, and one that often has ramifications.
I don't believe that anything of political significance will ever happen in the Middle East, at least in my lifetime, for which Western leaders won't be apportioned some degree of blame or responsibility. Partly that's because they inherited a long history of it, partly it's because they've earned it, and partly it's because it's a particularly easy tool with which to beat them.
Post by: Badger on February 05, 2021, 11:22:11 AM
I also think that indirect assistance with the aim of preventing or ending a humanitarian crisis is a much more nuanced conversation. It frequently results in knock on consequences, some foreseeable and some less so, and it's rarely done without other far less worthy agendas also being in play, but again - doing nothing when in possession of the power to do something is still an active decision, and one that often has ramifications.
The US helped make a humanitarian crisis worse and the outcome was entirely foreseeable. There's no "to be fair" necessary here.
Post by: Johnny English on February 05, 2021, 11:23:56 AM
The US helped make a humanitarian crisis worse and the outcome was entirely foreseeable. There's no "to be fair" necessary here.
Are you saying that the humanitarian crisis would be less bad now had the US not become involved in the blockades?
Post by: Badger on February 05, 2021, 01:00:21 PM
Are you saying that the humanitarian crisis would be less bad now had the US not become involved in the blockades?It certainly wouldn't be worse.
Post by: Johnny English on February 05, 2021, 01:10:06 PM
It certainly wouldn't be worse.
Well, I can't claim to know enough about the details to argue the point there.
Once more, I was replying to dcm's suggestion that Biden could have somehow prevented the Yemeni conflict during his previous stint in administration. I'm not sure that either of you have answered that. The conflict wasn't of US making unless you want to wind back multiple steps into the US impact upon the global recession of 2008, which played a role in facilitating the Arab Spring, of which the Yemeni conflict is an extension, but I think it's hard to really put too much blame on Biden and Obama for not reining in sketchy Florida realtors and mortgage brokers, and thus causing a humanitarian crisis in the Middle East.
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 05, 2021, 02:25:00 PM
Kind of irrelevant when you stroke yourself for stopping involvement in a war you could have stopped 7 years ago
Would you guys be applauding Cheney if he got elected president after Bush and ended the Iraq war
Who here was applauding Biden?
Post by: Badger on February 05, 2021, 07:13:54 PM
Who here was applauding Biden?The liberal in dcm's head.
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 05, 2021, 07:16:12 PM
The liberal in dcm's head.
So DCM is the board's true Ben Shapiro.
Post by: dcm1602 on February 06, 2021, 03:14:30 AM
Who here was applauding Biden?
Bernie Sanders
Post by: Badger on February 06, 2021, 09:07:13 AM
Bernie SandersCtrl+f applauding
0 results
Post by: dcm1602 on February 06, 2021, 09:55:59 AM
Ctrl+f applauding
0 results
Directly from your link
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtZ0m--XEAIkuuo?format=jpg&name=large)
Post by: Badger on February 06, 2021, 10:17:36 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 06, 2021, 12:04:36 PM
Bernie Sanders
There’s a difference in applauding the resolution and glorifying Biden. He’s giving credit to everyone else, himself included, Biden is a complete afterthought in this for Bernie.
Post by: Johnny English on February 06, 2021, 03:31:23 PM
There’s a difference in applauding the resolution and glorifying Biden. He’s giving credit to everyone else, himself included, Biden is a complete afterthought in this for Bernie.
Do we credit Bernie for this as well?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/us/politics/biden-houthi-yemen-terrorist-designation.html
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 06, 2021, 04:55:12 PM
Do we credit Bernie for this as well?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/us/politics/biden-houthi-yemen-terrorist-designation.html
Bernie might.
Post by: Johnny English on February 06, 2021, 05:09:44 PM
Bernie might.
I hope so, as I suspect that the only way that Biden's going to actually get credit for anything might be via the transitive property of Bernie and the Squad. We know that we can't actually praise Biden directly for anything he does lest we compromise our hardline moral code, but perhaps we can give Sanders et al credit for giving him credit.
Post by: Badger on February 06, 2021, 05:13:35 PM
Post by: delavan on February 06, 2021, 09:43:00 PM
https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2021/01/22/suzi-levine-esd-fraud-exit-biden-administration.html
Post by: Badger on February 13, 2021, 11:50:53 AM
You're really not going to like the local coverage about Biden stopping for bagels after mass vs. Trump only visiting one DC restaurant in four years as POTUS and that being his own steakhouse in his shitty, overpriced hotel.https://twitter.com/FLOTUS/status/1360380679217889280?s=19
Replace "local coverage" with Twitter replies
Post by: delavan on February 13, 2021, 01:10:30 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/MISS_%26_MISTER_WONDERFUL_WORLD.jpg)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 13, 2021, 10:15:17 PM
Uhh has this been posted yet?
Post by: Badger on February 14, 2021, 11:29:52 AM
https://twitter.com/ap/status/1360747370212978689?s=21It had not been posted. freak that guy and his stupid name.
Uhh has this been posted yet?
Post by: dcm1602 on February 14, 2021, 05:31:11 PM
New president, same white house
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 14, 2021, 10:37:45 PM
I was waiting for a tweet like this
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 14, 2021, 11:13:24 PM
Post by: Badger on February 15, 2021, 09:21:18 AM
Post by: mj2sexay on February 15, 2021, 09:45:06 AM
https://twitter.com/breannamorello/status/1360938789934419970?s=21
I was waiting for a tweet like this
We're not doing stuff like this anymore?
https://www.insider.com/jill-biden-wears-scrunchie-ponytail-valentines-day-2021-2?fbclid=IwAR0dj50kHBaUWdzVhwHmsOCrqoLIDphxqlwnKY7_60kDnufWB0rcCVqEWlQ
The latest fawning trash from a sycophantic propagandist sack of excrement media.
Post by: Johnny English on February 15, 2021, 09:58:01 AM
We're not doing stuff like this anymore?
https://www.insider.com/jill-biden-wears-scrunchie-ponytail-valentines-day-2021-2?fbclid=IwAR0dj50kHBaUWdzVhwHmsOCrqoLIDphxqlwnKY7_60kDnufWB0rcCVqEWlQ
The latest fawning trash from a sycophantic propagandist sack of excrement media.
It is indeed fawning trash, but I don't think someone who has supported the Trump administration for the last four years and the Republican Party for longer than that gets to really complain too hard about sycophantic propagandist media outlets.
Post by: IATA on February 15, 2021, 10:13:22 AM
Traci
@TraciB4U·
She’s wearing a scrunchie! I love this relatable woman!!!
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 15, 2021, 10:18:37 AM
Post by: Gorilla on February 15, 2021, 12:52:28 PM
It is indeed fawning trash, but I don't think someone who has supported the Trump administration for the last four years and the Republican Party for longer than that gets to really complain too hard about sycophantic propagandist media outlets.
It's like a Scientologist exclaiming, "Ugh, look at all the nonsense and obvious horseshit from those Mormon leaders lolol smh dumb gross mormons..."
You're dealing with someone without much self-awareness or shame, or a clear sense of such concepts as irony, hypocrisy, critical thinking, etc (at least when it comes to important issues like politics and Adam Gase's qualifications).
Post by: Badger on February 15, 2021, 06:41:38 PM
It is indeed fawning trash,
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210216/e7929cb31a70bbe65384e5b7b48f8b25.jpg)
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 15, 2021, 06:45:43 PM
Post by: Johnny English on February 15, 2021, 08:05:31 PM
I know people are excited that FLOTUS actually appears to care about other people, the country, Christmas...etc., but...WHAT?!?!?!I REALLY DON'T CARE DO U?
Post by: Badger on February 16, 2021, 09:01:38 PM
https://twitter.com/arappeport/status/1361870398472802306?s=19
Post by: dcm1602 on February 16, 2021, 10:34:28 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 16, 2021, 11:25:57 PM
Everyone wants to legalize crack and all that excrement yet nobody ever talks about legalizing roids like most of the rest of the world
Who. freaking. Cares?
If only there was something he could do about this
https://twitter.com/arappeport/status/1361870398472802306?s=19
The solution needs to come from the legislature.
Post by: bojanglesman on February 17, 2021, 05:20:16 AM
Everyone wants to legalize crack and all that excrement yet nobody ever talks about legalizing roids like most of the rest of the worldHemorrhoids are legal.
Post by: Badger on February 20, 2021, 06:14:53 PM
Unsure if this is worse than the people excited about Biden's dog
Post by: bojanglesman on February 20, 2021, 06:21:27 PM
https://twitter.com/aliciasadowski6/status/1362930155140751363?s=19It is.
Unsure if this is worse than the people excited about Biden's dog
Post by: dcm1602 on February 20, 2021, 06:51:40 PM
https://twitter.com/aliciasadowski6/status/1362930155140751363?s=19
Unsure if this is worse than the people excited about Biden's dog
You sure they weren't referring to Pelosi and Schumer as Bidens dogs?
Post by: delavan on February 20, 2021, 07:25:42 PM
I REALLY DON'T CARE DO U?
Dr. Jill, 'deshabille' as a thrill? Me neither.
First Lady, second fiddle. https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/donald-trump-melania-trump-knauss-first-lady-erections
Post by: Badger on February 21, 2021, 08:39:58 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1363576479741796353?s=19
Post by: Johnny English on February 22, 2021, 01:05:58 PM
Post by: Badger on February 22, 2021, 01:58:43 PM
I imagine Badger is quite pleased to see Tanden struggling to get confirmed and I agree that she does seem like a fairly unimpressive candidate, but the Republicans using the fact that she compared Ted Cruz to Voldemort on Twitter seems like a pretty weak argument for voting against.
I don't mind them casting the right vote for stupid reasons. Plus it gives Bernie cover to vote for her if she can't get confirmed anyway. He doesn't need a bigger target put on him by party loyalist psychos.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 23, 2021, 11:11:31 AM
Kids in cages, but in blue!
Post by: Badger on February 23, 2021, 12:02:58 PM
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1364051498506805266?s=21https://youtu.be/REFsYsMa31g
Kids in cages, but in blue!
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 23, 2021, 12:47:47 PM
https://youtu.be/REFsYsMa31g
I hate her for making that video and I hate you for posting it.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 23, 2021, 01:30:24 PM
lol this is unreal
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 23, 2021, 01:31:32 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 23, 2021, 07:59:50 PM
Post by: delavan on February 24, 2021, 12:26:18 PM
https://americasbestpics.com/picture/did-you-ever-wonder-what-happened-to-the-creepy-kid-9ZTrmK4B8
Post by: Badger on February 25, 2021, 08:08:34 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 25, 2021, 08:54:21 PM
Bombing Syria
I've done that. Fun times.
Trump asked my CO if he shot his whole load and my CO kept saying how much he hated the phone call at breakfast.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 25, 2021, 09:04:31 PM
Bombing Syria
https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1365095767996776450?s=21
Post by: Badger on February 26, 2021, 09:51:44 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 26, 2021, 10:43:21 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210226/013d619016b5a37c1b90fc39883b0dfb.jpg)
Something something precision strike blah blah blah military targets. We should not be in Syria.
I hate the argument that we conducted air strikes in order to deescalate the situation. Using deadly force is not a deescalation.
Also, I hate the word deescalate.
Post by: Badger on February 26, 2021, 12:01:01 PM
Something something precision strike blah blah blah military targets. We should not be in Syria.Deescalate dees nuts
I hate the argument that we conducted air strikes in order to deescalate the situation. Using deadly force is not a deescalation.
Also, I hate the word deescalate.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 26, 2021, 02:03:38 PM
Lolll
Post by: IATA on February 26, 2021, 03:13:15 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvKjzx2XIAY2MM-?format=jpg&name=small)
hahahaha
Post by: Badger on February 26, 2021, 03:46:37 PM
https://twitter.com/jennietetreault/status/1365142066896928770?s=21The best part is /47
Lolll
Scientific proof nothing good is happening in that chain
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 26, 2021, 03:54:59 PM
Deescalate dees nuts
Present them.
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 26, 2021, 03:58:58 PM
Part of the problem with imposing immigration reform is going to be push back from Republican judges. We've already seen a Texas judge block the deportation moratorium that the administration tried to impose with an injunction that has already been extended.
Keeping kids in slightly nicer cages isn't a solution but actually getting meaningful change through is going to be a battle at every step. Right now we have an issue of both sides freaking up hard.
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 27, 2021, 12:11:03 PM
This is a very bad idea.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/white-house-press-covid-tests/2021/02/26/d623f316-7855-11eb-948d-19472e683521_story.html#click=https://t.co/Gh3KibzV9N (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/white-house-press-covid-tests/2021/02/26/d623f316-7855-11eb-948d-19472e683521_story.html#click=https://t.co/Gh3KibzV9N)
Post by: Badger on February 27, 2021, 01:23:16 PM
BLUF: White House wants to pass the cost of COVID Testing ($170/test) on to reporters and their publishers to attend WH press briefings.Maybe the parliamentarian recommended it
This is a very bad idea.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/white-house-press-covid-tests/2021/02/26/d623f316-7855-11eb-948d-19472e683521_story.html#click=https://t.co/Gh3KibzV9N (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/white-house-press-covid-tests/2021/02/26/d623f316-7855-11eb-948d-19472e683521_story.html#click=https://t.co/Gh3KibzV9N)
Post by: Badger on February 28, 2021, 09:43:05 PM
Post by: Badger on March 01, 2021, 08:24:06 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on March 01, 2021, 09:13:01 AM
https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1366385641253126146?s=19
Doesn't matter because Manchin.
Post by: Badger on March 01, 2021, 09:43:32 AM
Doesn't matter because Manchin.Force him to vote against it then.
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 01, 2021, 10:52:14 AM
Post by: MBGreen on March 01, 2021, 10:53:48 AM
Post by: Badger on March 03, 2021, 09:51:04 AM
From $2K checks to $1400 checks to some people who got the $600 won't be eligible for the $1400 now.
There is zero logistical or pragmatic reason to do this, it's pure austerity pathology.
Post by: bojanglesman on March 03, 2021, 09:56:59 AM
https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/1367134476472565762?s=09
From $2K checks to $1400 checks to some people who got the $600 won't be eligible for the $1400 now.
There is zero logistical or pragmatic reason to do this, it's pure austerity pathology.
I expected this, but that's a bit faster phase out than I thought would happen.
I guess the $1.9 trillion part will come down unless they put this money somewhere else in the bill.
Post by: Badger on March 03, 2021, 11:43:58 AM
Post by: Johnny English on March 03, 2021, 12:14:42 PM
Not sending stimulus money to people who got stimulus money under Trump is bad politics, plain and simple.
It's only stimulus money if it immediately gets spent on stuff. Otherwise it's just a tax refund that has no social benefit or purpose.
Post by: Badger on March 03, 2021, 12:58:58 PM
It's only stimulus money if it immediately gets spent on stuff. Otherwise it's just a tax refund that has no social benefit or purpose.Better to accidentally give out a few "tax refunds" than to exclude people who need it.
Post by: Johnny English on March 03, 2021, 01:07:34 PM
Better to accidentally give out a few "tax refunds" than to exclude people who need it.
100%. And arbitrary thresholds applied across the entire country are nonsensical, as someone making $80K in NYC is living a very different life to someone making $80K in Badiddlyboing, Idaho. I'm just saying that there's a point at which they're not stimulus checks any more.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 03, 2021, 01:17:04 PM
lol.
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 03, 2021, 01:29:45 PM
I expected this, but that's a bit faster phase out than I thought would happen.
I guess the $1.9 trillion part will come down unless they put this money somewhere else in the bill.
Put it to the lower income families. If I actually get a payment I'll just donate it like I did last time.
Post by: Badger on March 03, 2021, 02:46:19 PM
Put it to the lower income families.
Gonna go out on a limb here and predict they won't. They're cutting just to cut.
Post by: delavan on March 03, 2021, 04:33:58 PM
Put it to the lower income families. If I actually get a payment
I'll just donate it like I did last time.
Me, I'm gonna open an eponymous orphanage. : )
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 04, 2021, 07:24:36 AM
Gonna go out on a limb here and predict they won't. They're cutting just to cut.
This.
Dem "leadership" are a bunch of cowards. Win the election, continue to kowtow to the GOP.
And like JE was saying, COL differences around the country make the thresholds bullshit, but then that's how it always works, so cool.
Post by: Badger on March 04, 2021, 08:26:19 AM
This.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210304/3d85ca24d5bde3f53754a461816bfe08.jpg)
Dem "leadership" are a bunch of cowards. Win the election, continue to kowtow to the GOP.
And like JE was saying, COL differences around the country make the thresholds bullshit, but then that's how it always works, so cool.
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 04, 2021, 11:59:18 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210304/3d85ca24d5bde3f53754a461816bfe08.jpg)
If you had asked me just 6 months ago "What political group would be most likely to push you towards progressives?" the answer would not have been "moderate" Dems.
Post by: bojanglesman on March 05, 2021, 10:42:33 AM
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Senate Democrats reached a deal on Friday to lower the weekly unemployment benefits in the nearly $2 trillion coronavirus relief bill to $300 from the $400 included in the House version of the bill, but extend the supplement through September, according to a Democratic aide.
The first $10,200 of the jobless aid will not be taxable under the agreement between progressive and moderate Democrats.
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 05, 2021, 12:34:52 PM
Cowards.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 05, 2021, 12:47:16 PM
You wanna give out stimulus welfare go for it. Not a supporter of the government teet, but at least give it to low income people rather than making unemployed enhanced for 2 years
Post by: bojanglesman on March 05, 2021, 12:48:50 PM
How many years are people going to blame covid for them not getting jobs?Depends on what their career is and whether covid goes away quickly.
Puck hasn't been able to safely blow guys under bridges for months now.
Post by: mj2sexay on March 05, 2021, 12:56:32 PM
Win the election, continue to kowtow to the GOP.
Genuinely, in what way is any of this a "kowtow" towards the GOP.
Post by: Badger on March 05, 2021, 02:03:43 PM
Genuinely, in what way is any of this a "kowtow" towards the GOP.Right, it's kowtowing to the shittiest Dems (who are fiscally indistinguishable from GOP)
Post by: bojanglesman on March 05, 2021, 03:06:42 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/05/covid-stimulus-update-democrats-to-change-unemployment-insurance-plan.html
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Senate Democrats have agreed to cut the weekly unemployment insurance supplement in their $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill but extend it for a longer period of time.
However, reports indicated Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia was reluctant to back the policy, which threw the chamber into chaos Friday and delayed his party’s efforts to pass the legislation. The first in a long series of votes — a failed effort by independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont to include a $15 per hour minimum wage — was still ongoing after nearly four hours as senators decided how to proceed.
Manchin was reportedly considering supporting a plan from Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, that among other things would cut enhanced federal unemployment benefits off earlier than most Democrats want.
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 05, 2021, 03:30:06 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on March 05, 2021, 03:48:07 PM
Manchin is going to be to the Dems what McCain was to Trump.
At least McCain was a thorn in Trump's side over something consequential. What's the advantage to anyone to shorten the cutoff of unemployment benefits? Does it make any meaningful cut to the overall price of the bill? I doubt Republicans even care about that little of a cut.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 05, 2021, 03:50:08 PM
At least McCain was a thorn in Trump's side over something consequential. What's the advantage to anyone to shorten the cutoff of unemployment benefits? Does it make any meaningful cut to the overall price of the bill? I doubt Republicans even care about that little of a cut.
I imagine unemployment is simply just a hot button issue,and is incorporated for no other reason than political points with fiscally conservative moderates
Post by: bojanglesman on March 05, 2021, 04:05:35 PM
I imagine unemployment is simply just a hot button issue,and is incorporated for no other reason than political points with fiscally conservative moderates
I mean, if Manchin gets it shortened by a month or so, what's he gonna fist-pump about? "freak YEAH!! We saved 37 cents!!"
(http://i.imgur.com/ixhwsXt.gif)
Post by: dcm1602 on March 05, 2021, 04:58:54 PM
I mean, if Manchin gets it shortened by a month or so, what's he gonna fist-pump about? "freak YEAH!! We saved 37 cents!!"
(http://i.imgur.com/ixhwsXt.gif)
I don't think it's about the money at all.
He's reportedly the most moderate Democrat in the senate, in a highly Republican state.
Bernie Bros can cry about not getting their free money, but if this guy wasn't as moderate you might have a far right Republican in his seat instead
Post by: bojanglesman on March 05, 2021, 05:14:44 PM
I don't think it's about the money at all.
He's reportedly the most moderate Democrat in the senate, in a highly Republican state.
Bernie Bros can cry about not getting their free money, but if this guy wasn't as moderate you might have a far right Republican in his seat instead
I understand that, but he's picking the dumbest hills to die on.
Post by: IATA on March 05, 2021, 07:05:17 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 05, 2021, 07:48:24 PM
I see dcm has gone full retard, again.
This would imply he stopped.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 06, 2021, 07:12:10 AM
I see dcm has gone full retard, again.
I wanted to keep you company.
But a 30 second Google search would confirm that he's one of the most conservative democrats serving in an extremely republican area.
It's not a wild concept that him doing things like this is to contribute to his career survival.
Post by: Badger on March 06, 2021, 11:31:49 AM
It's not a wild concept that him doing things like this is to contribute to his career survival.
Yes, West Virginians famously hate getting more money. Absolutely retarded defense.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 06, 2021, 11:45:56 AM
Yes, West Virginians famously hate getting more money. Absolutely retarded defense.
I have no doubts that those who are unemployed would agree with you
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 07, 2021, 08:16:15 AM
"Why are lazy derriere motherfuckers complainin' 'bout not gettin' paid to sit on their lazy asses?!"
Post by: Badger on March 07, 2021, 08:53:38 PM
I have no doubts that those who are unemployed would agree with youYes, raising the minimum wage would be such a handout to the unemployed
Post by: Johnny English on March 07, 2021, 08:59:11 PM
Yes, raising the minimum wage would be such a handout to the unemployed
I want to do the headshot gif here, but honestly it's such a stunningly dumb post you're replying to I'm not sure it even works except in the sense of an ailing dog.
Post by: Badger on March 07, 2021, 09:00:39 PM
but if this guy wasn't as moderate you might have a far right Republican in his seat instead
Sen. Mark Kelly and Joe Biden both campaigned on $15 min wage and won in the same state as Sinema.
$15/hr min wage referendum passed in FL, the same state with republican senators and governor.
It's not a matter of electoral survival.
There is exactly 1 demographic that has material interest in opposing it - people who make money by underpaying workers. Anyone not in that group who opposes raising the wage is a useful idiot.
Post by: Johnny English on March 07, 2021, 09:17:13 PM
Sen. Mark Kelly and Joe Biden both campaigned on $15 min wage and won in the same state as Sinema.
$15/hr min wage referendum passed in FL, the same state with republican senators and governor.
It's not a matter of electoral survival.
There is exactly 1 demographic that has material interest in opposing it - people who make money by underpaying workers. Anyone not in that group who opposes raising the wage is a useful idiot.
It doesn't even make economic sense to someone who's an actual "fiscal conservative", if such a thing exists, to oppose a higher minimum wage. It's a basic principle of capitalism to be in favour of money having an increased velocity, which is an inevitable consequence of an increased minimum wage.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 08, 2021, 05:16:39 AM
Yes, raising the minimum wage would be such a handout to the unemployed
We were talking about Manchin and his issues with unemployment in the bill
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 08, 2021, 07:33:14 AM
Yes, raising the minimum wage would be such a handout to the unemployed
lmao
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 08, 2021, 07:33:41 AM
Reporting like this makes me miss the hourly hitpieces on Trump
Post by: Johnny English on March 08, 2021, 08:19:13 AM
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1368308273816932363?s=21
Reporting like this makes me miss the hourly hitpieces on Trump
Why? Do you just want a relentless procession of hit pieces telling you why every single thing that every single politician ever does is bad?
WaPo is a centrist paper, it's going to applaud centrist policy enacted by a centrist President and party. I'm sure Fox or Breitbart could give you a different and far more negative spin on the same story if you wanted. TBH I'm fairly sure Badger can as well.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 08, 2021, 09:32:16 AM
Why? Do you just want a relentless procession of hit pieces telling you why every single thing that every single politician ever does is bad?
WaPo is a centrist paper, it's going to applaud centrist policy enacted by a centrist President and party. I'm sure Fox or Breitbart could give you a different and far more negative spin on the same story if you wanted. TBH I'm fairly sure Badger can as well.
Doesn't get any more centrist than giving out the most free money ever in a bill unilaterally supported by one political party
Post by: Johnny English on March 08, 2021, 09:47:23 AM
Doesn't get any more centrist than giving out the most free money ever in a bill unilaterally supported by one political party
It's like you made an extra special effort to be wrong as many times as possible in one sentence. Well done.
Post by: Badger on March 08, 2021, 10:16:13 AM
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1368308273816932363?s=21Good thing we don't have state media like Bad Guy Countries do.
Reporting like this makes me miss the hourly hitpieces on Trump
Post by: Badger on March 08, 2021, 10:26:43 AM
Why? Do you just want a relentless procession of hit pieces telling you why every single thing that every single politician ever does is bad?
WaPo is a centrist paper, it's going to applaud centrist policy enacted by a centrist President and party. I'm sure Fox or Breitbart could give you a different and far more negative spin on the same story if you wanted. TBH I'm fairly sure Badger can as well.
It's not unreasonable to point out Biden gets little scrutiny from major media outlets compared to Trump (who was receliving an appropriate amount).
Right wing coverage is useless because they think Biden is giving money to MS-13 gender studies or whatever the scare of the week is.
Post by: Johnny English on March 08, 2021, 10:50:19 AM
It's not unreasonable to point out Biden gets little scrutiny from major media outlets compared to Trump (who was receliving an appropriate amount).
Is that true though? I have more faith in the likes of WaPo and NYT calling out Biden's mistakes than Fox et al ever did with Trump, but they're not going to look at him through a progressive lens because they aren't progressive outlets.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 08, 2021, 11:59:48 AM
Is that true though? I have more faith in the likes of WaPo and NYT calling out Biden's mistakes than Fox et al ever did with Trump, but they're not going to look at him through a progressive lens because they aren't progressive outlets.
I'm wrong but the NYT isn't progressive 🙄
I understand that now a days Twitter tiktok and other neo progressive outlets for news have changed the dynamic of news media (and yes Facebook and whatever old conservatives, use, telegrams?)
But to pretend that NYT somehow still doesn't have its lips puckered on Obamas rooster is a pretty high degree of delusion
Post by: Johnny English on March 08, 2021, 12:21:13 PM
I'm wrong but the NYT isn't progressive 🙄
I understand that now a days Twitter tiktok and other neo progressive outlets for news have changed the dynamic of news media (and yes Facebook and whatever old conservatives, use, telegrams?)
But to pretend that NYT somehow still doesn't have its lips puckered on Obamas rooster is a pretty high degree of delusion
So let me be clear here - it's your view that the Times is a progressive outlet because it loves Obama? Badger, I'm guessing you want this one given your love of defending Obama's progressive credentials.
Post by: Badger on March 08, 2021, 12:23:31 PM
I'm wrong but the NYT isn't progressiveObama wasn't progressive either. He was just a fresh face for status quo (and the face deeply upset almost half the country).
I understand that now a days Twitter tiktok and other neo progressive outlets for news have changed the dynamic of news media (and yes Facebook and whatever old conservatives, use, telegrams?)
But to pretend that NYT somehow still doesn't have its lips puckered on Obamas rooster is a pretty high degree of delusion
Post by: mj2sexay on March 08, 2021, 12:27:15 PM
WaPo is a centrist paper, it's going to applaud centrist policy enacted by a centrist President and party.
Lol @ the notion that WaPo is centrist and not a blatant shill rag for Democrats.
Ditto the NYT which has become the go to sounding board for blue check twitter.
Post by: Johnny English on March 08, 2021, 01:14:45 PM
Lol @ the notion that WaPo is centrist and not a blatant shill rag for Democrats.
I'm not sure why you think that these two things are incompatible. You're not really going to try and make an argument that the current incarnation of the Democrats is left wing, are you? I'll grant you that it's a broad enough church to just about contain some more progressive types, although much like the Republican party and libertarians it's probably more a marriage of convenience than any kind of significant ideological agreement, but you don't really think that WaPo is speaking for the Sanders/AOC/Omar wing, do you?
Post by: dcm1602 on March 08, 2021, 01:59:02 PM
I'm not sure why you think that these two things are incompatible. You're not really going to try and make an argument that the current incarnation of the Democrats is left wing, are you? I'll grant you that it's a broad enough church to just about contain some more progressive types, although much like the Republican party and libertarians it's probably more a marriage of convenience than any kind of significant ideological agreement, but you don't really think that WaPo is speaking for the Sanders/AOC/Omar wing, do you?
Bernie Sanders is a 79 year old independent from Vermont.
I don't think he warrants being the face of anything at this point, just an inspiration for some kids on Twitter.
Post by: Johnny English on March 08, 2021, 02:06:38 PM
Bernie Sanders is a 79 year old independent from Vermont.
I don't think he warrants being the face of anything at this point, just an inspiration for some kids on Twitter.
Apart from the fact that he's chair of one of the most important and powerful Senate committees and is in a position to have a huge influence on the ruling party's policy positions, I'm not sure where you're going with this argument but I'm not really fussed on having it.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 08, 2021, 02:09:35 PM
Apart from the fact that he's chair of one of the most important and powerful Senate committees and is in a position to have a huge influence on the ruling party's policy positions, I'm not sure where you're going with this argument but I'm not really fussed on having it.
You basically stated that the papers weren't progressive mouthpieces because they don't speak for Sanders. My point was Sanders is a near death independent, that failed to get the democratic nomination in back to back years.
Sure he's influential, but I don't think it's fair to let him define anything at this point
Post by: MBGreen on March 08, 2021, 02:18:38 PM
You basically stated that the papers weren't progressive mouthpieces because they don't speak for Sanders. My point was Sanders is a near death independent, that failed to get the democratic nomination in back to back years.
Sure he's influential, but I don't think it's fair to let him define anything at this point
you are wrong
Post by: mj2sexay on March 08, 2021, 02:56:38 PM
I'm not sure why you think that these two things are incompatible. You're not really going to try and make an argument that the current incarnation of the Democrats is left wing, are you? I'll grant you that it's a broad enough church to just about contain some more progressive types, although much like the Republican party and libertarians it's probably more a marriage of convenience than any kind of significant ideological agreement, but you don't really think that WaPo is speaking for the Sanders/AOC/Omar wing, do you?
WaPo speaks for that wing of the party way more than they do any sort of mainstream or modern conservative viewpoint, which is combined with just unbelievable, Hannity-level schilling for mainstream Democrats. And it's not exactly something they hide from, balance after all is an illusion if one side is just so no good and evil that they don't deserve coverage or to be platformed.
It's not that I don't want to address the rest of your comment, it's that there's so many rabbit holes in which I'll either be exclusively told I'm wrong and a racist so why go there (the democratic party mainstream rushing towards the shitty idPOL populist streak that runs through the worst of the left, despite people like their party leader and the current President of the United States demonstratively having no freaking idea what critical race theory is, or its insidiousness), or in which we'll both get yelled at re: the line of demarcation between liberals and leftists. Suffice to say though, I think the categorization of Obama being a centrist with a pretty face is way off the mark unless you're looking to fundamentally shift the Overton window in this country, or you think people like Jamaal "standardized testing is racist" Bowman could actually win an election outside of an urban enclave.
Post by: ons on March 08, 2021, 03:37:20 PM
Also I find the various arguments to cancel critical race theory (not just here, there is a local dude who goes to every single school board meeting and goes on rants about critical race theory during every single public comment period, even ones to approve minutes) to be really funny/absurd
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 08, 2021, 06:03:03 PM
I basically think DCM is right about Manchin - any anger at him should be directed toward the abject failures of the DNC/DSSC for being terrible. Without Manchin's bizarre unicorny political career we're probably looking at a relief bill with no child tax credit or school aid. With DNC competence we're looking at a genuinely ambitious relief bill with a higher minimum wage.
Also I find the various arguments to cancel critical race theory (not just here, there is a local dude who goes to every single school board meeting and goes on rants about critical race theory during every single public comment period, even ones to approve minutes) to be really funny/absurd
We can be angry at the process for being shitty as well as the shitty products it produces.
Post by: mj2sexay on March 08, 2021, 06:18:39 PM
Also I find the various arguments to cancel critical race theory (not just here, there is a local dude who goes to every single school board meeting and goes on rants about critical race theory during every single public comment period, even ones to approve minutes) to be really funny/absurd
So essentially you've decided to strawman people on the basis of a local nutjob at school board meetings.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 09, 2021, 05:17:50 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on March 09, 2021, 05:38:12 PM
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1369373450582822920?s=21
They should use that reporter to test experimental covid treatments. Like elctrotherapy
Post by: IATA on March 09, 2021, 10:00:42 PM
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1369373450582822920?s=21
ny post, of course
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 10, 2021, 12:49:22 AM
ny post, of course
I’m surprised it wasn’t NYDN. That’s a Manish question for sure.
Post by: Badger on March 10, 2021, 06:43:29 AM
So essentially you've decided to strawman people on the basis of a local nutjob at school board meetings.That's funny because critical race theory is a boogeyman for culture war losers.
Post by: mj2sexay on March 10, 2021, 09:57:53 AM
That's funny because critical race theory is a boogeyman for culture war losers.
I know, such a boogeyman;
https://spectator.us/topic/three-month-old-baby-racist-arizona-department-education/
Y 3 month old white babi be waicist?
Post by: Badger on March 10, 2021, 10:10:41 AM
I know, such a boogeyman;lol get that excrement outta here
https://spectator.us/topic/three-month-old-baby-racist-arizona-department-education/
Y 3 month old white babi be waicist?
"xirself" yeah this guy is arguing in good faith
Post by: mj2sexay on March 10, 2021, 10:29:00 AM
lol get that excrement outta here
"xirself" yeah this guy is arguing in good faith
I'm sorry is there an argument FOR material being disseminated by a board of education in which three month old white babies have racial bias?
Perhaps another example as to the virtues of CTR exclaiming that white teachers "spirit murder" black babies and need "anti-racist training";
https://www.city-journal.org/radicalism-in-san-diego-schools
Yeah, this excrement is a cult.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 10, 2021, 11:07:33 AM
I'm sorry is there an argument FOR material being disseminated by a board of education in which three month old white babies have racial bias?
Perhaps another example as to the virtues of CTR exclaiming that white teachers "spirit murder" black babies and need "anti-racist training";
https://www.city-journal.org/radicalism-in-san-diego-schools
Yeah, this excrement is a cult.
Most ridiculous article I've ever read
Everyone knows racism starts at conception
Post by: bojanglesman on March 10, 2021, 11:33:49 AM
Most ridiculous article I've ever read
Everyone knows racism starts at conception
Racist fetus is grounds for legal late term abortion.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 10, 2021, 11:54:32 AM
Racist fetus is grounds for legal late term abortion.
It's those bad white sperms causing all the problems
Post by: Badger on March 10, 2021, 12:28:03 PM
I'm sorry is there an argument FOR material being disseminated by a board of education in which three month old white babies have racial bias?
Perhaps another example as to the virtues of CTR exclaiming that white teachers "spirit murder" black babies and need "anti-racist training";
https://www.city-journal.org/radicalism-in-san-diego-schools
Yeah, this excrement is a cult.
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and even abolished the requirement to turn in homework on time
Sorry bro but I will die defending this now
Post by: delavan on March 10, 2021, 03:11:31 PM
https://www.city-journal.org/radicalism-in-san-diego-schools
Using racists elements such as exclusivity to combat racism - kinda like how vaccines work. Cool. ...smh
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Post by: Badger on March 11, 2021, 09:15:22 AM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1369435096579796994?s=19
Post by: Johnny English on March 11, 2021, 09:44:28 AM
BREAKING
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1369435096579796994?s=19
Badger: this obsession with Biden's animals is stupid!
Also Badger: the only one actually posting stories about Biden's animals.
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 11, 2021, 09:56:29 AM
Post by: Badger on March 11, 2021, 10:13:31 AM
Badger: this obsession with Biden's animals is stupid!Yes, my audience is much vaster than the WH spokesperson and The Hill
Also Badger: the only one actually posting stories about Biden's animals.
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 11, 2021, 10:48:29 AM
Yes, my audience is much vaster than the WH spokesperson and The Hill
He's clearly referring to you being the only one on the board who cares either way.
Post by: Badger on March 11, 2021, 11:07:04 AM
He's clearly referring to you being the only one on the board who cares either way.There's a suggestion that my criticism of the coverage somehow outweighs the stupid coverage, which I reject.
Post by: Johnny English on March 11, 2021, 11:14:44 AM
There's a suggestion that my criticism of the coverage somehow outweighs the stupid coverage, which I reject.
You can read that into it if you like, I'm merely observing - as Cato pointed out - that there's an irony in you complaining about the existence of a certain story, when you're the only one perpetuating it within our tiny enclave.
In the wider context, I don't care if The Hill is running it. If any kind of significant proportion of their output were focused on the White House pets then I would agree that it would be dumb, but in context I don't think it's weird or wrong that a story pertaining to the normal humanity of a President would get some traction given it's the first time a normal human has held the office in 4 years. No one actually gives a excrement about the White House pets, but that's not the story.
Post by: Badger on March 11, 2021, 11:23:06 AM
In the wider context, I don't care
The only important part of what you just said, next time start and stop there.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 11, 2021, 01:37:56 PM
But the fact Biden has been extremely odd with his inability to speak independently is perplexing
Post by: bojanglesman on March 11, 2021, 02:02:33 PM
I think these conservatives pretending Biden has alzheimers are being crazy.
But the fact Biden has been extremely odd with his inability to speak independently is perplexing
What do you mean "speak independently"? Like he's never given a speech by himself? Surely you aren't talking about his stuttering issue he's had since childhood.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 11, 2021, 02:06:14 PM
What do you mean "speak independently"? Like he's never given a speech by himself? Surely you aren't talking about his stuttering issue he's had since childhood.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/biden-holding-formal-news-conference-raises-accountability-questions/story%3fid=76341787
This is the only thing I'm referring to
Giving ammo to his critics. I've seen that obnoxious clip of Biden 50 times where he says "why am I here" and I don't even watch the news. Yet people are pretending he's full retard over it
Post by: Johnny English on March 11, 2021, 02:48:59 PM
I think these conservatives pretending Biden has alzheimers are being crazy.
But the fact Biden has been extremely odd with his inability to speak independently is perplexing
It might well be a specific strategy, coming off 4 years of a gobshite who did nothing but talk it might be viewed as better to have one who doesn't exist purely to fill endless media cycles with 140 character soundbites. But y'know, good job on the apophasis and all that. Which I think was your actual point.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 11, 2021, 03:00:43 PM
It might well be a specific strategy, coming off 4 years of a gobshite who did nothing but talk it might be viewed as better to have one who doesn't exist purely to fill endless media cycles with 140 character soundbites. But y'know, good job on the apophasis and all that. Which I think was your actual point.
It wasn't about apothecaries and hypotenuse
My point was its perplexing that he doesn't just freaking do something that historically every single president before him as done by now, to at least mitigate the biggest rumor about him.
Honestly all of these 70 + year old politicians probably have freaking alzheimers and dementia. I just think it's insane we have an arbitrary age minimum but no maximum. But rather than debate the merits of old people, it's just an odd strategy here
Post by: bojanglesman on March 11, 2021, 03:09:22 PM
It wasn't about apothecaries and hypotenuse
My point was its perplexing that he doesn't just freaking do something that historically every single president before him as done by now, to at least mitigate the biggest rumor about him.
What will it accomplish? If he came out and had a presser right now, people will find something about his speech to "prove" what they already believe. He could make a speech better than the Gettysburg Address and answer questions perfectly without stuttering or giving any incompleteness to his answer and he will get bashed by the people that are pushing the issue on his lack of a speech. Who is really going to change their opinion of him if he spoke right now? I don't give a excrement if he ever speaks. The proof is in the pudding. Do good work. Results.
Like JE said, we've spent 4 years trying to get the guy in the oval office to shut the freak up. I'm happy the new one has actually done it.
Post by: mj2sexay on March 11, 2021, 03:15:09 PM
I for one don't need to see Yamiche Alcindor lob softballs at a stammering idiot.
Post by: bojanglesman on March 11, 2021, 03:16:58 PM
Keeping a doddering old patsy in the basement is effective strategy.
I for one don't need to see Yamiche Alcindor lob softballs at a stammering idiot.
Better than putting a blabbering moron on TV 24/7.
Post by: delavan on March 11, 2021, 04:22:49 PM
Keeping a doddering old patsy
in the basement is effective strategy.
I for one don't need to see Yamiche Alcindor lob softballs at a stammering idiot.
You don't think he's still tapping the first GILF?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/20090120_Jill_and_Joe_Biden_at_Homestates_Ball.JPG/180px-20090120_Jill_and_Joe_Biden_at_Homestates_Ball.JPG)
Post by: bojanglesman on March 11, 2021, 04:25:30 PM
You don't think he's still tapping the first GILF?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/20090120_Jill_and_Joe_Biden_at_Homestates_Ball.JPG/180px-20090120_Jill_and_Joe_Biden_at_Homestates_Ball.JPG)
Probably getting some side trim too.
(https://i2.wp.com/brasizemeasurements.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Nancy-Pelosi-Bra-Size.jpg)
Post by: IATA on March 11, 2021, 04:26:59 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on March 11, 2021, 04:56:26 PM
Trump has the posture of an overweight gorilla and wears diapers, but Joe Biden is old so ya know
So in other words Trump is the perfect representation for the average American
Post by: dcm1602 on March 11, 2021, 04:56:42 PM
https://news.yahoo.com/ap-fact-check-biden-admin-230538904.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_02
Post by: bojanglesman on March 11, 2021, 05:22:47 PM
So in other words Trump is the perfect representation for the average American(https://media.tenor.com/images/0dbdf32e2d522640734041c7c4af1bc1/tenor.gif)
Post by: Badger on March 11, 2021, 06:36:52 PM
It might well be a specific strategy, coming off 4 years of a gobshite who did nothing but talk it might be viewed as better to have one who doesn't exist purely to fill endless media cycles with 140 character soundbites. But y'know, good job on the apophasis and all that. Which I think was your actual point.It is a specific strategy, to keep him out of sight, out of mind, the "nothing to see here" presidency.
Post by: Badger on March 11, 2021, 06:40:00 PM
New administration, same lies"But Trump"
https://news.yahoo.com/ap-fact-check-biden-admin-230538904.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_02
Post by: delavan on March 11, 2021, 09:55:02 PM
Yes, my audience is much vaster than the WH spokesperson and The HillForget JO's cranky overlord Badger, keep 'em coming..
Getting back to Major Biden:
https://www.tmz.com/2021/03/08/president-biden-dogs-booted-white-house-aggressive-biting-german-shepherd-champ-major/
The Delaware Humane Association -- where Major was adopted from -- tells TMZ ...
Champ and Major's recent behavior could stem from a change in environment, which can be unsettling for dogs. They added, "it can take any dog some time to adjust to a new home or new surroundings."
So what have these wizards decided to do? Why send the Biden dogs off to go stay with friends in Delaware. 'Change and hope'
Post by: reuben on March 11, 2021, 10:14:39 PM
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A Secret Service official told NBC News no skin was broken in the incident
If you're not bleeding, then you didn't get bit.
Post by: Badger on March 12, 2021, 06:18:13 AM
Post by: MBGreen on March 12, 2021, 06:40:05 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on March 12, 2021, 07:08:26 AM
How're Pelosi's funbags doing?(https://i0.wp.com/brasizemeasurements.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Nancy-Pelosi-Breast-Size.jpg)
Post by: MBGreen on March 12, 2021, 07:10:31 AM
Post by: delavan on March 12, 2021, 10:18:35 AM
Quote from: MBGreen
...I'm pitching a tent in that boob valley,
Shangri-La was described in 'Lost Horizon' as a mystical, harmonious valley and that those who live in Shangri-La are almost immortal, living hundreds of years beyond the normal lifespan and only very slowly aging in appearance.
Behold the valley of Shangri-La, nestled amidst our true natural treasures....well-seasoned, full-bodied and flavorsome!
(https://i.redd.it/py5u5qhe0lx41.jpg)
Post by: MBGreen on March 12, 2021, 11:29:55 AM
Shangri-La was described in 'Lost Horizon' as a mystical, harmonious valley and that those who live in Shangri-La are almost immortal, living hundreds of years beyond the normal lifespan and only very slowly aging in appearance.
Behold the valley of Shangri-La, nestled amidst our true natural treasures....well-seasoned, full-bodied and flavorsome!
(https://i.redd.it/py5u5qhe0lx41.jpg)
this might be my favorite post of yours.
Post by: delavan on March 12, 2021, 06:38:31 PM
Quote from: MBGreen
this might be my favorite post of yours.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/bEukNHupBgvduzRkbB/giphy.gif)
Post by: IATA on March 13, 2021, 09:58:52 AM
Shangri-La was described in 'Lost Horizon' as a mystical, harmonious valley and that those who live in Shangri-La are almost immortal, living hundreds of years beyond the normal lifespan and only very slowly aging in appearance.
Behold the valley of Shangri-La, nestled amidst our true natural treasures....well-seasoned, full-bodied and flavorsome!
(https://i.redd.it/py5u5qhe0lx41.jpg)
next photoshop you post, make em bigger and rounder. and replace her face with someone elses. also just post someone else.
Post by: bojanglesman on March 13, 2021, 10:28:14 AM
next photoshop you post, make em bigger and rounder. and replace her face with someone elses. also just post someone else.(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSthIcxzxYVU-t8PfLY8fktpajb6HkXslTW7A&usqp=CAU)
Post by: delavan on March 13, 2021, 11:33:50 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSthIcxzxYVU-t8PfLY8fktpajb6HkXslTW7A&usqp=CAU)
Triple nipple
Post by: delavan on March 13, 2021, 11:59:22 AM
next photoshop you post, make em bigger and rounder. and replace her face with someone elses.
also just post someone else.
yessir
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/AudreyBitoni.jpg/320px-AudreyBitoni.jpg)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 17, 2021, 11:41:00 AM
Post by: Badger on March 17, 2021, 11:44:50 AM
https://twitter.com/philipwegmann/status/1372143671840272387?s=21In reality he mumbled something about Scranton then said he could do more pushups than Putin
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 17, 2021, 11:45:37 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on March 17, 2021, 11:46:37 AM
Pelosi titfakes >>> Biden pet articles
yeah boyeee
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 17, 2021, 11:47:05 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on March 17, 2021, 11:48:52 AM
Post by: Badger on March 17, 2021, 01:00:19 PM
Biden isn't going to do anything of any meaning to Putin or Russia. No president is. No one wants to start a war and both sides are freaking around with each other. Same reason why shitty marriages stay together.This is why Iran should have a nuke.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 17, 2021, 04:18:17 PM
Death by Nuke
Post by: Badger on March 19, 2021, 08:56:34 AM
https://nypost.com/2021/03/18/defense-secretary-to-north-korea-us-is-ready-to-fight-tonight/
Post by: Johnny English on March 19, 2021, 09:17:26 AM
Stupid
https://nypost.com/2021/03/18/defense-secretary-to-north-korea-us-is-ready-to-fight-tonight/
I think you're missing the most important thing though, which is that Major is back.
Post by: bojanglesman on March 19, 2021, 09:20:01 AM
Stupid
https://nypost.com/2021/03/18/defense-secretary-to-north-korea-us-is-ready-to-fight-tonight/
That's some bullshit from the Post dramatizing the statement.
Post:
Quote
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin warned Thursday that American forces are ready to “fight tonight,” in response to North Korea slamming drills resuming between the US and South Korea.
Actual comment:
https://www.state.gov/secretary-antony-j-blinken-secretary-of-defense-lloyd-austin-republic-of-korea-foreign-minister-chung-eui-yong-and-republic-of-korea-defense-minister-suh-wook-at-a-joint-press-availability/
Quote
The United States remains fully committed to the defense of the Republic of Korea, using the full range of U.S. capabilities, including our extended deterrent. As the United States and the Republic of Korea continue to maintain a robust combined defense posture, we also remain committed to the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. There is no daylight between us on this point.
And today, we discussed the way forward on a host of critical strategic and operational issues. And at the top of my agenda was ensuring a shared understanding of the importance of maintaining military readiness. Our force remains ready to fight tonight and we continue to make progress toward the eventual transition of wartime operational control to an ROK-commanded future combined forces command.
The Post makes it sound like the US is looking to start a fight at Applebees with North Korea. The actual statement is stressing the importance of being ready at all times in case something happens.
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 19, 2021, 09:21:53 AM
Post by: Badger on March 19, 2021, 09:43:14 AM
That's some bullshit from the Post dramatizing the statement.What they're doing is stupid no matter how the Post spun the statement.
Post:
Actual comment:
https://www.state.gov/secretary-antony-j-blinken-secretary-of-defense-lloyd-austin-republic-of-korea-foreign-minister-chung-eui-yong-and-republic-of-korea-defense-minister-suh-wook-at-a-joint-press-availability/
The Post makes it sound like the US is looking to start a fight at Applebees with North Korea. The actual statement is stressing the importance of being ready at all times in case something happens.
Post by: delavan on March 19, 2021, 10:06:20 AM
That's some bullshit from the Post dramatizing the statement.
But Bo, why the "we're ready" statement in the first place? Vigilance is and has always been been the order of the day - it's assumed.
The Post's saber-rattling hyperbole aside, Dear Leader's sister is a bit of a cunty wordsmith in her own right...
“We take this opportunity to warn the new US administration trying hard to give off powder smell in our land,” Kim Yo Jong said in a statement to state news agency KCNA. “If it wants to sleep in peace for coming four years, it had better refrain from causing a stink at its first step.”
USA-DPRK leaders (and their respective bitches) during 'happier times'.
Just look at that cold-as-ice gash on the far left and tell yourself she wouldn't castrate you as soon as look at you...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Donld_Trump_and_Kim_Jong-un_signed_the_joint_statement.jpg)
Post by: MBGreen on March 19, 2021, 10:09:16 AM
Post by: delavan on March 19, 2021, 10:15:43 AM
brrrrrrrrrr
Post by: mj2sexay on March 19, 2021, 12:42:24 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 20, 2021, 07:37:43 AM
Not my president
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 20, 2021, 07:52:57 AM
Post by: Badger on March 20, 2021, 07:55:12 AM
Post by: Badger on March 20, 2021, 09:52:09 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 20, 2021, 11:25:15 AM
https://twitter.com/cuntybff/status/1372999609581117444?s=201. LMAO
2. That thought will torture me until it is displaces by a bullet.
Post by: delavan on March 22, 2021, 04:20:07 PM
https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2021/03/22/texas-congressman-henry-cuellar-photos-migrant-detention-president-joe-biden-border-secrecy/
Don't mess with the mess in Texas: bar the (mostly compliant, silent) press.
Post by: mj2sexay on March 22, 2021, 05:34:02 PM
Obvious retort here is "you gonna fire Kamala too?"
Hence why I'm hoping they scoop this sack of excrement off the stairs.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 23, 2021, 07:55:55 PM
what
Post by: mj2sexay on March 23, 2021, 11:23:11 PM
https://twitter.com/ccadelago/status/1374492329097060359?s=21
what
LOL, jfc.
Can't wait for next months event when she sits down with Prince Andrew to discuss the same topic.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 24, 2021, 08:37:34 AM
(https://media.tenor.com/images/ef1da3d9480296724102cf513c2437df/tenor.gif)
Post by: Badger on March 24, 2021, 09:21:50 AM
At best it's misleading, at worst it seems like a cynical deployment of a platitude for people to uncritically parrot (as seen in the above tweet).
One-time or two-time payments don't do anything to existing poverty. If they were doing permanent recurring payments then maybe they have a claim, but a stimulus check now and some child tax credits later does not "cut child poverty in half".
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 24, 2021, 09:37:35 AM
"cuts child poverty in half" is my least favorite talking point from dems right now.
At best it's misleading, at worst it seems like a cynical deployment of a platitude for people to uncritically parrot (as seen in the above tweet).
One-time or two-time payments don't do anything to existing poverty. If they were doing permanent recurring payments then maybe they have a claim, but a stimulus check now and some child tax credits later does not "cut child poverty in half".
Who is going to dispute them?
The people who need the money most aren't exactly spending their days doomscrolling Twitter.
Post by: MBGreen on March 24, 2021, 09:37:41 AM
brrrrrrrrrr
BRRRRRRR!!!!
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 24, 2021, 09:40:44 AM
Post by: Johnny English on March 24, 2021, 10:05:50 AM
"cuts child poverty in half" is my least favorite talking point from dems right now.
At best it's misleading, at worst it seems like a cynical deployment of a platitude for people to uncritically parrot (as seen in the above tweet).
One-time or two-time payments don't do anything to existing poverty. If they were doing permanent recurring payments then maybe they have a claim, but a stimulus check now and some child tax credits later does not "cut child poverty in half".
Do they mean they will reduce the amount by which children are in poverty by half, or the number of children living in poverty by half? It seems to me that either is a statement of intent to fail.
Post by: bojanglesman on March 24, 2021, 10:12:44 AM
Do they mean they will reduce the amount by which children are in poverty by half, or the number of children living in poverty by half? It seems to me that either is a statement of intent to fail.They will cut child poverty in half once half the kids die.
Post by: Badger on March 24, 2021, 11:00:57 AM
Do they mean they will reduce the amount by which children are in poverty by half, or the number of children living in poverty by half? It seems to me that either is a statement of intent to fail.It doesn't matter because neither is permanent. You don't solve homelessness by getting someone a hotel room for 1 night.
Post by: Badger on March 24, 2021, 11:05:23 AM
Who is going to dispute them?
The people who need the money most aren't exactly spending their days doomscrolling Twitter.
It's bullshit on its face, you don't have to dig deep to know it's ridiculous to celebrate a bandaid. Not sure how you can chalk this up to the handwringing of terminally online people.
If we care about further progress then we should be concerned that they're essentially lying and not be surprised when it bites them in 2022 and 2024.
Post by: delavan on March 24, 2021, 12:34:55 PM
https://twitter.com/redwineblueusa/status/1371548280556023814?s=21
Karen Starbucks
Post by: mj2sexay on March 24, 2021, 03:48:42 PM
Who is going to dispute them?
The people who need the money most aren't exactly spending their days doomscrolling Twitter.
It's bullshit on its face, you don't have to dig deep to know it's ridiculous to celebrate a bandaid. Not sure how you can chalk this up to the handwringing of terminally online people.
If we care about further progress then we should be concerned that they're essentially lying and not be surprised when it bites them in 2022 and 2024.
Gruberite tactics absolutely work when you have institutional and operational control over about 85 percent of the media, pop culture, academia, etc.
Disgusting, cynical, etc. but unfortunately effective.
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 24, 2021, 05:02:44 PM
It's bullshit on its face, you don't have to dig deep to know it's ridiculous to celebrate a bandaid. Not sure how you can chalk this up to the handwringing of terminally online people.
If we care about further progress then we should be concerned that they're essentially lying and not be surprised when it bites them in 2022 and 2024.
Totally agree, and most of the voting public will know it without seeing it.
But not seeing it makes a major difference. Think about the difference between knowing people abuse dogs and hearing Sarah McLaughlin's voice start singing about arms of the angels during a commercial break.
Post by: bojanglesman on March 25, 2021, 12:27:50 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on March 25, 2021, 12:42:49 PM
Right up there with Aaron Rupar.
Post by: delavan on March 25, 2021, 01:53:35 PM
Yamiche Alcindor really is just a fat useless propagandist pig.
Right up there with Aaron Rupar.
Useless? I'd think propagandists in DC are worth their weight in gold.
Post by: Badger on March 25, 2021, 02:00:58 PM
Yamiche Alcindor really is just a fat useless propagandist pig.She blamed Sanders for the congressional baseball game shooting. Fun person.
Right up there with Aaron Rupar.
Edit: also suggested he was sexist for not dropping out earlier in 2016.
Post by: Badger on March 27, 2021, 01:46:56 PM
Post by: Johnny English on March 29, 2021, 01:11:33 PM
Post by: delavan on March 29, 2021, 01:27:58 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/03/29/us/biden-news-today#wind-power-ny-nj
"Separately, the White House is setting a goal of deploying 30,000 megawatts of offshore wind in the United States by 2030 — a goal it claimed will create about 75,000 jobs — and devoting funding already approved by Congress to port infrastructure and transmission development."
FYI
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-much-wind-energy-does-it-take-power-average-home?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products
Post by: Johnny English on March 29, 2021, 01:34:22 PM
"Separately, the White House is setting a goal of deploying 30,000 megawatts of offshore wind in the United States by 2030 — a goal it claimed will create about 75,000 jobs — and devoting funding already approved by Congress to port infrastructure and transmission development."
FYI
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-much-wind-energy-does-it-take-power-average-home?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products
This might be my ignorance, but is that 30,000 megawatts per year? Month? Hour? Minute?
Edit: actually I think I did the math right. I think that using those numbers, 30,000 megawatts means enough offshore wind energy to power 8.2M homes permanently. There are 139 million homes in the US currently, so the aim is to be able to power about 6% of homes with wind power.
Post by: Badger on March 29, 2021, 01:46:56 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 29, 2021, 01:49:27 PM
Post by: reuben on March 29, 2021, 03:51:18 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 30, 2021, 10:51:16 AM
(https://imgbb.com/)
lol
Post by: delavan on March 30, 2021, 04:23:12 PM
Major nipped another one today.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/30/politics/major-biden-dog-white-house/index.html
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 30, 2021, 05:00:37 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 31, 2021, 01:52:06 PM
Quote
One of Biden's dogs pooped on the floor, per pool
"Champ and Major were spotted in the hallway outside the Palm Room doors in front of the Diplomatic Room. There was dog poo on the floor. It’s unclear which dog was responsible for it"
Biden’s America
Post by: Badger on March 31, 2021, 01:59:52 PM
Post by: delavan on March 31, 2021, 09:43:52 PM
Post by: Badger on April 01, 2021, 08:39:55 AM
https://twitter.com/TheMcKenziest/status/1377424384084869125?s=19
Post by: delavan on April 01, 2021, 11:26:06 AM
When hispandering goes wrong
https://twitter.com/TheMcKenziest/status/1377424384084869125?s=19
^ Perfectly described. Note the guy behind her clapping as Dr. Jill blurts out "thank you!" meaning this was her big, spine-tingling ending. I only wish the video/audio continued for a few more seconds to show how big an egg she laid. Caren Estrellabucks.
Post by: mj2sexay on April 01, 2021, 11:36:56 AM
When hispandering goes wrong
https://twitter.com/TheMcKenziest/status/1377424384084869125?s=19
what's the flag in the background?
Post by: Badger on April 01, 2021, 12:06:42 PM
what's the flag in the background?United Farm Workers
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 01, 2021, 12:15:09 PM
United Farm WorkersWhy does it look like a rejected concept art submission of a swastika replacement Bethesda's German SKU of Wolfenstein?
Post by: Badger on April 01, 2021, 12:22:14 PM
Why does it look like a rejected concept art submission of a swastika replacement Bethesda's German SKU of Wolfenstein?Because Nazis unfortunately ruined a lot of what were otherwise cool-looking symbols
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 01, 2021, 02:27:05 PM
Post by: Badger on April 01, 2021, 02:32:33 PM
https://twitter.com/blaireerskine/status/1377414805628317699?s=19This conspiracy goes all the way to the top
Post by: reuben on April 01, 2021, 03:36:41 PM
https://twitter.com/blaireerskine/status/1377414805628317699?s=19
It's gotta be a troll account, right? Between this and the Kenyan fugue state?
Post by: Badger on April 01, 2021, 04:05:57 PM
It's gotta be a troll account, right? Between this and the Kenyan fugue state?296K followers
Poe's law
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 01, 2021, 09:35:48 PM
Post by: Badger on April 05, 2021, 10:13:09 PM
The easter bunny then bit a member of the staff and excrement on the rug
Post by: Badger on April 13, 2021, 05:09:28 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 19, 2021, 03:07:09 PM
Post by: Badger on April 23, 2021, 07:59:56 AM
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1385572138485231617?s=19
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 23, 2021, 11:40:37 AM
Post by: Badger on April 23, 2021, 12:07:35 PM
Recently asked the Dept of Ed to create a brief on his legal authority to cancel student debt. I don't think he'd be doing this if he wasn't considering it.Hopefully. I feel like this admin does a lot of temperature-taking by saying they're considering something and then reading the reaction, but maybe there's something here.
Post by: Johnny English on April 23, 2021, 03:10:06 PM
This account sucks but lol
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1385572138485231617?s=19
Well. He might be the only one who's in a room with other people. He might not be, but the only one who is responsible enough to take the appropriate measures. He might be on his own but doing it to set an example. There are all sorts of reasons I can think of why this is to Biden's credit, and none I can think of as to why it's not.
Post by: Badger on April 23, 2021, 03:27:01 PM
Well. He might be the only one who's in a room with other people. He might not be, but the only one who is responsible enough to take the appropriate measures. He might be on his own but doing it to set an example. There are all sorts of reasons I can think of why this is to Biden's credit, and none I can think of as to why it's not.Good point, Biden can't be left alone.
Post by: Johnny English on April 23, 2021, 04:06:58 PM
Good point, Biden can't be left alone.
You'd think they'd give the poor guy a LifeAlert pendant or something.
Post by: Badger on April 24, 2021, 10:14:34 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 24, 2021, 12:18:19 PM
Post by: delavan on April 24, 2021, 03:36:17 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-calls-mass-killing-armenians-genocide-n1265134
And Joe's not the only one. Eat shlt Erdogan and own it you freaking creep.
Post by: Badger on April 25, 2021, 06:16:13 PM
https://twitter.com/ThirdWayKessler/status/1386320456857395201?s=19
Post by: mj2sexay on April 25, 2021, 06:59:25 PM
And Joe's not the only one. Eat shlt Erdogan and own it you freaking creep.
As much as I think this administration is just the biggest pile of excrement, what's right is right. This is a great thing.
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2021, 11:01:34 AM
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1387407072560652293?s=19
Post by: dcm1602 on April 28, 2021, 11:21:54 AM
The nonsense that menthol is some conspiracy to target the black community.
Mega Billion dollar corporations are interested in profits not eugenics
And while I'm all for banning cigarettes it's a little confusing that the same people advocating to ban menthols are the same ones who want to decriminalize all drugs.
Let's ban menthols but legalize crack!
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2021, 11:24:31 AM
And while I'm all for banning cigarettes it's a little confusing that the same people advocating to ban menthols are the same ones who want to decriminalize all drugs.
No.
Post by: Johnny English on April 28, 2021, 11:37:33 AM
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2021, 12:23:30 PM
I feel like people who don't understand banning menthol cigarettes are people who have never bummed a smoke outside a bar at 1am and been given a menthol.Yeah and how come that person also wants to decriminalize all drugs?! /dcm mode
Post by: reuben on April 28, 2021, 12:25:14 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 28, 2021, 01:29:32 PM
I feel like people who don't understand banning menthol cigarettes are people who have never bummed a smoke outside a bar at 1am and been given a menthol.
For most of the 16 years I poisoned my lungs, I was a Newport smoker.
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 28, 2021, 04:13:16 PM
I feel like people who don't understand banning menthol cigarettes are people who have never bummed a smoke outside a bar at 1am and been given a menthol.The freaking worst but I couldn't really complain when I was begging.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 28, 2021, 05:23:23 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on April 28, 2021, 06:04:44 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/people-color-breathe-more-hazardous-191448101.html
Post by: Johnny English on April 28, 2021, 07:02:29 PM
Hopefully Biden makes it a top priority to ban air
https://www.google.com/amp/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/people-color-breathe-more-hazardous-191448101.html
On a related note, have you ever read the studies on lead and crime? I'm not sufficiently scientifically educated to hold an opinion on them that I can reasonably defend, but from what I have read it does seem to have a sufficiently high correlation as to be worthy of taking seriously.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 28, 2021, 07:07:39 PM
On a related note, have you ever read the studies on lead and crime? I'm not sufficiently scientifically educated to hold an opinion on them that I can reasonably defend, but from what I have read it does seem to have a sufficiently high correlation as to be worthy of taking seriously.I would guess that areas with poorer infrastructure and older pipes are likely to also be high crime areas. I don't think lead causes it, I think lead is also present coincidentally. Just guessing. Kind of like Puck at the tailgate. He doesn't make it better, he just happens to be there.
Post by: dcm1602 on April 28, 2021, 07:30:06 PM
On a related note, have you ever read the studies on lead and crime? I'm not sufficiently scientifically educated to hold an opinion on them that I can reasonably defend, but from what I have read it does seem to have a sufficiently high correlation as to be worthy of taking seriously.
I don't know anything about the topic so I'm not going to feign any kind of thoughtful insight.
I just find it ridiculous how this country is on this fad of looking at every issue through a race centered prism, instead of actually trying to address the root causes of the problem.
Unless people seemingly think the underlying problem of pollution is racism. The underlying problem of policing is racism. The problem of education is racism. The problem of Healthcare is racism.
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2021, 07:33:39 PM
I don't know anything about the topic so I'm not going to feign any kind of thoughtful insight.Why do you try so hard to deliberately misunderstand everything?
I just find it ridiculous how this country is on this fad of looking at every issue through a race centered prism, instead of actually trying to address the root causes of the problem.
Unless people seemingly think the underlying problem of pollution is racism. The underlying problem of policing is racism. The problem of education is racism. The problem of Healthcare is racism.
Post by: dcm1602 on April 28, 2021, 07:38:21 PM
Why do you try so hard to deliberately misunderstand everything?
What is there to misunderstand?
The last year every single problem America faces the core topic of debate has been on racism.
That's not to suggest that racism doesn't exist or matter. But literally every single process improvement system/philosophy etc is based on root cause analysis and focusing on the root of the problem.
But in this PC era people have decided that root causes are irrelevant, and that all debates should be focused on what's trending on Twitter
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2021, 07:39:50 PM
What is there to misunderstand?I have no idea how you spiraled this hard from "Biden wants to improve air quality"
The last year every single problem America faces the core topic of debate has been on racism.
That's not to suggest that racism doesn't exist or matter. But literally every single process improvement system/philosophy etc is based on root cause analysis and focusing on the root of the problem.
But in this PC era people have decided that root causes are irrelevant, and that all debates should be focused on what's trending on Twitter
Post by: dcm1602 on April 28, 2021, 07:46:13 PM
I have no idea how you spiraled this hard from "Biden wants to improve air quality"
I guess I misunderstood the focus of the article.
Clearly the article titled
People of Color Breathe More Hazardous Air. The Sources Are Everywhere.
Is focused on Joe Biden wanting to improve air quality
And the 2 pages of how air disproportionately effects people of color just goes to reinforce how badly Joe Biden wants to improve air quality
Post by: Johnny English on April 28, 2021, 07:50:32 PM
I guess I misunderstood the focus of the article.
Clearly the article titled
People of Color Breathe More Hazardous Air. The Sources Are Everywhere.
Is focused on Joe Biden wanting to improve air quality
And the 2 pages of how air disproportionately effects people of color just goes to reinforce how badly Joe Biden wants to improve air quality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93crime_hypothesis
I'll let you draw the line from there to racial disparities. It shouldn't be all that difficult.
Post by: dcm1602 on April 28, 2021, 08:06:06 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93crime_hypothesis
I'll let you draw the line from there to racial disparities. It shouldn't be all that difficult.
I know it would be impossible to develop a even relatively informed opinion on the subject in a few minutes, or even a few hours.
But I will say that things like this can be extraordinarily difficult to prove causation.
A perfect example is the frequently cited data that suggests that eating meat makes you more likely to die young.
I mean the correlation is rock solid with the data. However people who eat meat are also more likely to smoke, drink, be overweight, not get enough fiber etc.
It's absolutely plausible that the hypothesis is accurate. But at the end of the day the racial factors of it are completely irrelevant.
If you're worried about lead or any other other type of toxic chemicals improve the freaking problem. Figure out the root cause, and solve or improve it. Don't turn it into some jerkoffy debate about race, which literally does nothing to improve the issue. Because the takeaway won't be that lead is the problem, it'll be that racism is
Post by: Johnny English on April 28, 2021, 08:24:09 PM
I know it would be impossible to develop a even relatively informed opinion on the subject in a few minutes, or even a few hours.
But I will say that things like this can be extraordinarily difficult to prove causation.
A perfect example is the frequently cited data that suggests that eating meat makes you more likely to die young.
I mean the correlation is rock solid with the data. However people who eat meat are also more likely to smoke, drink, be overweight, not get enough fiber etc.
It's absolutely plausible that the hypothesis is accurate. But at the end of the day the racial factors of it are completely irrelevant.
If you're worried about lead or any other other type of toxic chemicals improve the freaking problem. Figure out the root cause, and solve or improve it. Don't turn it into some jerkoffy debate about race, which literally does nothing to improve the issue. Because the takeaway won't be that lead is the problem, it'll be that racism is
I agree with you, as I said in my earlier post, that it's obviously a much more complicated issue than I have the expertise to hold a sensible opinion on. But if we accept that the ingestion of lead does cause developmental problems, and if we also accept that poorer communities are or were likely to have higher concentrations of lead in their local air (from older vehicles that are less frequently and reliably maintained, and proximity to high lead areas such as freeways), and if we also accept that black communities are more likely to be poorer communities, then we can I think draw a pretty straight line between lead related issues and race and the perpetuation of poverty and therefore the increased need to turn to crime.
And if we can do that, it's not a huge leap of faith to think that if lead ingestion caused or contributed to these issues, then it's entirely feasible that other forms of pollution may have similarly adverse effects, and therefore that any efforts to improve air quality will disproportionately benefit poor racial communities.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 28, 2021, 08:57:27 PM
Why do you try so hard to deliberately misunderstand everything?
dcmnet has become self aware
Post by: ons on April 28, 2021, 10:59:47 PM
I don't know anything about the topic so I'm not going to feign any kind of thoughtful insight.
I just find it ridiculous how this country is on this fad of looking at every issue through a race centered prism, instead of actually trying to address the root causes of the problem.
Unless people seemingly think the underlying problem of pollution is racism. The underlying problem of policing is racism. The problem of education is racism. The problem of Healthcare is racism.
The underlying problem of all of those things is explicitly racist housing (and also hiring) policies throughout the majority of the 20th century that systematically denied the accumulation of generational wealth from black families while also funneling black people into areas with worse infrastructure, access to education, access to healthcare, access to jobs, and pollution. These factors all led to an increase in violent crime in those same neighborhoods, which in turn has justified more violent, fear driven policing tactic which effects are still seen today.
These effects can also be seen today as black people still live disproportionately in those same neighborhoods which still suffer from things like worse pollution - which is why it's appropriate to frame the cleaning up of pollution as anti-racist, even if it seems totally separated from race. Of course, strong arguments can still be made to clean up air quality without ever invoking race, but it's not inherently bad to connect those ideas.
Post by: dcm1602 on April 29, 2021, 06:17:02 AM
The underlying problem of all of those things is explicitly racist housing (and also hiring) policies throughout the majority of the 20th century that systematically denied the accumulation of generational wealth from black families while also funneling black people into areas with worse infrastructure, access to education, access to healthcare, access to jobs, and pollution. These factors all led to an increase in violent crime in those same neighborhoods, which in turn has justified more violent, fear driven policing tactic which effects are still seen today.
These effects can also be seen today as black people still live disproportionately in those same neighborhoods which still suffer from things like worse pollution - which is why it's appropriate to frame the cleaning up of pollution as anti-racist, even if it seems totally separated from race. Of course, strong arguments can still be made to clean up air quality without ever invoking race, but it's not inherently bad to connect those ideas.
For the sake of simplicity, let's just say everything you said is 100% completely true.
Do you think attempting to fix the root causes of the individual issues would have better outcomes than somehow trying to undo the past 200 somewhat years?
Not to mention millions of new people are coming to the United States every year. I somehow doubt they're enjoying the life of luxury.
I in no way am a believer in Bernie Sanders and his political philosophy.
But at least his ideas could feasibly lift up the people he wants to help. I could absolutely guarantee that the economic factors are far more of a predictor than race
(of course then you get into a debate about race leading to economic inequalities and this debate becomes way too long and obnoxious, and it's freaking draft day so freak political bullshit)
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2021, 06:34:43 AM
I couldn't care less what audience they're playing to with framing if the solutions make sense (this remains to be seen from this admin).
People like Hillary acted in extremely bad faith on stuff like this, e.g. "breaking up the big banks doesn't solve racism" leading her faction of supporters to think things like M4A or free public college would not impact racist outcomes. You seem to have an equally bad yet opposite take.
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2021, 06:39:57 AM
If his proposal is "black neighborhoods are disproprotionately suffering from a polluted environment and we want to reduce pollution in these areas" you have to do insane mental gymnastics to pretend that isn't reasonable.
Post by: dcm1602 on April 29, 2021, 06:45:20 AM
If Biden's proposal was "we're going to make sure black neighborhoods and white neighborhoods have to endure shitty environmental conditions equally" you'd maybe have a point.
If his proposal is "black neighborhoods are disproprotionately suffering from a polluted environment and we want to reduce pollution in these areas" you have to do insane mental gymnastics to pretend that isn't reasonable.
There's a difference between making policies black neighborhoods (with neighborhoods to me, meaning socioeconomic rather than skin color). Than the excrement that's constantly getting put out that's purely about race (ie the farm grants, the proposals aimed at HBCUs, racial mandates etc)
Obviously Biden is doing everything he can to make sure his constituents responsible for his title are happy. But the lack of emphasis on socioeconomics and the unusually heavy emphasis on skin color doesn't seem like his goal is to solve problems.
It sounds like a man trying to make sure his core supporters are going to come out to vote in the next two elections
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2021, 06:58:49 AM
There's a difference between making policies black neighborhoods (with neighborhoods to me, meaning socioeconomic rather than skin color). Than the excrement that's constantly getting put out that's purely about race (ie the farm grants, the proposals aimed at HBCUs, racial mandates etc)I don't really object to this.
Obviously Biden is doing everything he can to make sure his constituents responsible for his title are happy. But the lack of emphasis on socioeconomics and the unusually heavy emphasis on skin color doesn't seem like his goal is to solve problems.
It sounds like a man trying to make sure his core supporters are going to come out to vote in the next two elections
My position, broadly put, is that you can't do anything to legislate away bigotry, but you can take away the tools that allow it to blow up into systemic racism, and you do this with universal programs that guarantee things like healthcare and education to everyone. Make something inalienable and it can't be unjustly withheld from people.
But of course you don't agree with that, so your position is as useless as you imagine Biden's to be.
Post by: mj2sexay on April 29, 2021, 09:17:01 AM
Democracy dies in darkness dough!
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2021, 09:41:40 AM
Post by: steves850 on April 29, 2021, 09:43:14 AM
There's a difference between making policies black neighborhoods (with neighborhoods to me, meaning socioeconomic rather than skin color). Than the excrement that's constantly getting put out that's purely about race (ie the farm grants, the proposals aimed at HBCUs, racial mandates etc)
Obviously Biden is doing everything he can to make sure his constituents responsible for his title are happy. But the lack of emphasis on socioeconomics and the unusually heavy emphasis on skin color doesn't seem like his goal is to solve problems.
It sounds like a man trying to make sure his core supporters are going to come out to vote in the next two elections
I agree with this sentiment, the poor air quality, the lack of healthcare options, the predatory nature of housing and banking on the poor isn't solely a race issue. However, if this administration implements changes that address these issues under the guise of race, it will help the poor as a whole. I grew up poor white kid in a black neighborhood. I guarantee you if there were options to help my 'black neighborhood' I sure the freak would have benefited and appreciated it.
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2021, 09:45:04 AM
I agree with this sentiment, the poor air quality, the lack of healthcare options, the predatory nature of housing and banking on the poor isn't solely a race issue. However, if this administration implements changes that address these issues under the guise of race, it will help the poor as a whole. I grew up poor white kid in a black neighborhood. I guarantee you if there were options to help my 'black neighborhood' I sure the freak would have benefited and appreciated it.You mean you wouldn't be upset that improvements to your material conditions were being framed to appeal to a particular group?
Post by: steves850 on April 29, 2021, 09:53:20 AM
You mean you wouldn't be upset that improvements to your material conditions were being framed to appeal to a particular group?
Yes, it turns out you can dress it up in any clothes you like as long as the lasting change is an improvement to society as a whole.
excrement reminds me of Bo's song:
https://youtu.be/WLMgbV3uaz8
You can get mad about race issues but the fact is unless you're a black person living in this country you don't know what they're going through. I remember as a teenage walking into a corner store and the clerk following me around like I'm a criminal. I remember how that made me feel like a piece of excrement, I'm not a thief and had no intent of stealing excrement. As I got older, that stopped. That's not the case for most black men in this country. That clerk still follows them around into their 30s.
Post by: delavan on April 29, 2021, 10:29:09 AM
Quote from: mj2sexay
....but will actually instead descend into racist tropes to discredit the speaker for the opposition.
Democracy dies in darkness dough!
Consider the Washington Post's 'privileged-themed' hatchet job on Scott the other day. Indeed, 'decency dies in 'darkness' no matter its origin - what a self-serving, bigoted hit piece...
Post by: Badger on May 01, 2021, 06:53:57 PM
https://twitter.com/JohnCornyn/status/1388467935396646913?s=19
Obviously I'm no Biden fan but uhh Bill Clinton was a monster
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 01, 2021, 07:06:42 PM
Not sure how he intended this to come offhttps://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1388530401984094209?s=19
https://twitter.com/JohnCornyn/status/1388467935396646913?s=19
Obviously I'm no Biden fan but uhh Bill Clinton was a monster
https://twitter.com/bhaviklathia/status/1388516463816937477?s=19
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 03, 2021, 01:25:04 PM
Is he doing that thing where nothing he says is coherent or is this real?
Post by: bojanglesman on May 03, 2021, 03:11:26 PM
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21He obviously meant to say 1 penny more. I knew what he meant. I'm sure someone will run with it and make it seem like he is 137 years old, has end stage alzheimer's and brain cancer.
Is he doing that thing where nothing he says is coherent or is this real?
Post by: IATA on May 03, 2021, 03:15:15 PM
He obviously meant to say 1 penny more. I knew what he meant. I'm sure someone will run with it and make it seem like he is 137 years old, has end stage alzheimer's and brain cancer.Because they have nothing else to go with
Post by: Badger on May 03, 2021, 03:19:08 PM
Because they have nothing else to go with(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210503/a0cf417b7e5b2ec8d77377ff4bef2b0b.jpg)
Post by: IATA on May 03, 2021, 05:00:28 PM
Post by: Badger on May 04, 2021, 07:10:22 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 04, 2021, 07:12:03 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 05, 2021, 12:23:50 PM
Lmaooo
Post by: Badger on May 05, 2021, 03:43:46 PM
https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1390024098315743235?s=19
Post by: d sw0rdz on May 05, 2021, 03:45:23 PM
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389990402103599109?s=21
Lmaooo
they kissed over their masks
wtf
Post by: bojanglesman on May 05, 2021, 03:45:34 PM
Good
https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1390024098315743235?s=19
I support supermodels having sex with me, but it'll never happen.
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 05, 2021, 04:15:56 PM
Good
https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1390024098315743235?s=19
freaking finally.
Post by: Badger on May 05, 2021, 04:16:11 PM
I support supermodels having sex with me, but it'll never happen.Why not?
Post by: bojanglesman on May 05, 2021, 04:19:26 PM
Why not?
Because good stuff never does.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 07, 2021, 11:02:48 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on May 07, 2021, 11:11:39 AM
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1390646758137638912?s=21Breaking: All economists that made prediction have been fired, furthering lowering employment numbers.
Post by: Badger on May 10, 2021, 03:56:18 PM
https://twitter.com/byHeatherLong/status/1391814495564144640?s=19
Post by: reuben on May 10, 2021, 04:28:03 PM
"What if Reagan, but invited to the cookout?"
https://twitter.com/byHeatherLong/status/1391814495564144640?s=19
Commie Joe, at it again
Post by: AlioTheFool on May 10, 2021, 08:57:54 PM
Post by: Badger on May 10, 2021, 09:01:47 PM
I'd love to know what Joe's definition of a "suitable" job is.Listen Jack gimme one of them chocolate vanilla swirls with the jimmies on em
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 10, 2021, 09:50:28 PM
Listen Jack gimme one of them chocolate vanilla swirls with the jimmies on em
I hate this...SO MUCH...it...it...the fl...it...flames...flames...FLAMES! On the side of my face breathing...breath...heaving breaths...heaving...
Post by: reuben on May 10, 2021, 10:53:09 PM
I hate this...SO MUCH...it...it...the fl...it...flames...flames...FLAMES! On the side of my face breathing...breath...heaving breaths...heaving...
(https://i.gifer.com/2Mav.gif)
Post by: Badger on May 11, 2021, 11:28:48 AM
https://twitter.com/nkulw/status/1392115434674180096?s=19
Post by: MBGreen on May 11, 2021, 11:41:55 AM
WHY
https://twitter.com/nkulw/status/1392115434674180096?s=19
only the best for Japan
Post by: Badger on May 11, 2021, 11:46:25 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on May 11, 2021, 12:14:34 PM
WHY
https://twitter.com/nkulw/status/1392115434674180096?s=19
Kaepernick still doesn't have a job.
Post by: MBGreen on May 11, 2021, 04:19:44 PM
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Joe Biden
@JoeBiden
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3m
We’re vaccinating the nation. We’re creating hundreds of thousands of jobs. We’re delivering real results people can see and feel in their own lives.
That’s the essence of America. That’s democracy in action.
Drink in the essence
Post by: mj2sexay on May 11, 2021, 06:16:44 PM
Drink in the essence
WeRe CrEaTInG hUnDrEdS oF ThOuSaNds Of JoBs, off the worst job report relative to expectations in freaking recorded history. HAHAHAHA.
Where's that twink Daniel Dale or any of the "fact checkers" to cry about what a lie that is when it's an actual lie, and not playing absurd semantics when Trump rightfully gave his administration credit for the economy pre-pandemic.
Drink in the utter failure as inside of 8 months we've got a gas shortage, crisis at border and rockets being launched at our biggest allies in the worlds biggest pooper after four years of relative peace.
My expectations were low, but holy freak.
Post by: Badger on May 11, 2021, 07:49:33 PM
Drink in the utter failure as inside of 8 months we've got a gas shortage, crisis at border and rockets being launched at our biggest allies in the worlds biggest pooper after four years of relative peace.
lol
Post by: d sw0rdz on May 12, 2021, 01:01:02 PM
addendum: re-reading that whole sentence, and the whole thing is......kind of odd.
Post by: IATA on May 13, 2021, 10:47:03 AM
WeRe CrEaTInG hUnDrEdS oF ThOuSaNds Of JoBs, off the worst job report relative to expectations in freaking recorded history. HAHAHAHA.My goodness, the orange colored glasses have caused permanent damage to you.
Where's that twink Daniel Dale or any of the "fact checkers" to cry about what a lie that is when it's an actual lie, and not playing absurd semantics when Trump rightfully gave his administration credit for the economy pre-pandemic.
Drink in the utter failure as inside of 8 months we've got a gas shortage, crisis at border and rockets being launched at our biggest allies in the worlds biggest pooper after four years of relative peace.
My expectations were low, but holy freak.
Post by: Johnny English on May 13, 2021, 11:20:11 AM
My goodness, the orange colored glasses have caused permanent damage to you.
I believe alternative universe mj would refer to it as Biden Derangement Syndrome.
Post by: mj2sexay on May 13, 2021, 11:22:47 AM
america definitely has their hands dirty with their unwavering support of zionist israeli policies and the way palestinians are being/have been treated, but choosing to pin and blame that singularly on biden is.......kind of odd.
addendum: re-reading that whole sentence, and the whole thing is......kind of odd.
As usual, you're completely misinformed as to the topic at hand, but that's never stopped you before.
Israel has a right to defend themselves from non-stop rocket attacks on their civilians. Palestine has been offered a free state no less than four different times.
As much as I'm an isolationist and think we need to desperately wean them and everyone off our dole so to speak, the idea that there's a moral equivalence or any sort of choice between the biggest pro-Western democracy vs. a fundamentalist Islamic regime is brought to you by the same people who think western civ is trash.
My goodness, the orange colored glasses have caused permanent damage to you.
LOL ORANGE COLORED GLASSES!
Refute one point keeping in mind that while I haven't laid the issues in the Middle East totally at the feet of Biden, thats our money paying for those rockets being set off by Hamas.
I'll accept "well I hated Trump so I voted Biden out of default" but ffs for anyone actually trying to defend this trash on any other basis has some serious head-in-sand syndrome.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 13, 2021, 02:11:58 PM
This guy spittin
Post by: bojanglesman on May 13, 2021, 02:27:21 PM
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1392565196250624001?s=21Zach Wilson's Mom is also destroying America.
This guy spittin
Post by: delavan on May 13, 2021, 02:29:40 PM
Israel has a right to defend themselves from non-stop rocket attacks on their civilians. Palestine has been offered a free state no less than four different times.
Palestinians have the right to not be evicted from their homes on behalf of "settlers" and their government overlords. Imagine someone taking something of yours only to give it to someone else and in this case to a 'preferred' group of people. That's not exactly kosher....I mean "take from you and give to them?" Almost smacks of 'Bernie' no, mj?
Post by: mj2sexay on May 13, 2021, 03:08:24 PM
Palestinians have the right to not be evicted from their homes on behalf of "settlers" and their government overlords. Imagine someone taking something of yours only to give it to someone else and in this case to a 'preferred' group of people. That's not exactly kosher....I mean "take from you and give to them?" Almost smacks of 'Bernie' no, mj?
Said settlers can make the legal argument that they owned the land before The Kingdom of Jordan, with the backing of the UN took possession and displaced them.
Re: your hypothetical, I don't have to imagine it, Gavin Newsome is literally using a federally funded bailout paid for by you and I to offer his constituents a bri...I mean tax rebate before his recall. Certainly nowhere near the same in terms of scope and severity, but I can't help but feel like anywhere else in the world this current situation between Palestinian Arabs and their Israeli counterparts would be a simple land dispute. Because of the players involved, Hamas has exploited the situation to ensure that all hell breaks loose, and the Israeli government deserves a tremendous amount of blame when you consider the continued rise of Hamas to the point that they'd unquestionably win any free or fair election to take the mantle of Palestinian leadership is directly tied to Bibi's continued attempts to destabilize the Abbas regime (not that he needs much help destabilizing a complete and total incompetent).
What I can't understand for the life of me is why Hamas, unquestionably a theocratic, backwards, fundamentalist organization is being aided and abetted by certain American political figures. Rashida Tlaib is literally out here co-opting a chant in which the logical end result is the destruction of Israel, Ilhan Omar is accusing the Israeli's of terrorism while being deliberately silent as to Hamas's tactics of both attacking civilian targets and using civilian barricades.
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 13, 2021, 07:48:56 PM
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1392565196250624001?s=21
This guy spittin
Seriously, freak Chic-fil-a. Nothing is worth those stupid lines.
Post by: d sw0rdz on May 14, 2021, 03:00:29 PM
As usual, you're completely misinformed as to the topic at hand, but that's never stopped you before.
imagine being you and being the way you are, and feeling like you could still type that sentence. says a lot, 'but that's never stopped you before'.
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Israel has a right to defend themselves from non-stop rocket attacks on their civilians. Palestine has been offered a free state no less than four different times.
As much as I'm an isolationist and think we need to desperately wean them and everyone off our dole so to speak, the idea that there's a moral equivalence or any sort of choice between the biggest pro-Western democracy vs. a fundamentalist Islamic regime is brought to you by the same people who think western civ is trash.
imagine typing that first sentence and then following it up with this. a discussion with you is pointless. nothing to discuss, no need to discuss.
Post by: mj2sexay on May 14, 2021, 06:14:26 PM
imagine being you and being the way you are.
Your shitty preconceived notions are what they are, but the idea that you have ANY high ground here whether moral or intellectual is funnier than freak.
imagine typing that first sentence and then following it up with this. a discussion with you is pointless. nothing to discuss, no need to discuss.
Cry harder. Hamas is a death cult motivated by belief in holy war and a deep hatred of Jews, not just in Israel, but everywhere. Its charter reads like white supremacist fan fiction. The Jews are blamed for the French Revolution, World War I and World War II (which they claim 'profited' the Jews immensely, never explaining how the execution of 6 million people plays into this), and are also accused of using organizations like the Free Masons and the Rotary Club to further nefarious ends. What ends exactly? They don't say. They also point to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as real - the 'real plan' the Jews are supposedly using to further their domination of the Earth.
That's who you're defending, but tell me more about "being you and the way you are" you stupid FvCk.
Post by: reuben on May 14, 2021, 06:20:50 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on May 14, 2021, 06:21:45 PM
(https://www.ipwatchdog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dont-feed-troll.jpg)
Yeah I guess I'd resort to a shitty meme to if my views were either ignorant or flagrantly anti-semitic.
Post by: d sw0rdz on May 14, 2021, 11:38:53 PM
flagrantly anti-semitic.
there it is
like clockwork
Post by: mj2sexay on May 17, 2021, 06:46:51 PM
there it is
like clockwork
The irony of this comment.
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 17, 2021, 07:59:06 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on May 17, 2021, 08:45:12 PM
Blocked yet another call for a cease fire by the Security Council.
Ah yes, the Security Council belonging to the same entity that had Mugabe on its human rights board.
The UN is trash.
Post by: IATA on May 18, 2021, 08:14:53 AM
Ah yes, the Security Council belonging to the same entity that had Mugabe on its human rights board.
The UN is trash.
mugabe is dead. can you try and make relevant arguments, or is all you have lame strawmans from years passed?
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 18, 2021, 04:14:36 PM
Post by: Badger on May 18, 2021, 04:28:57 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on May 18, 2021, 06:35:18 PM
mugabe is dead. can you try and make relevant arguments, or is all you have lame strawmans from years passed?
"years passed"
Literally happened in 2017 you stupid freak.
Post by: IATA on May 18, 2021, 06:42:03 PM
"years passed"Yes, you've managed to deduce that 2017 is indeed in the past.
Literally happened in 2017 you stupid freak.
You're such a smart lil guy, I'm proud of you bud.
Post by: steves850 on May 18, 2021, 06:56:52 PM
Post by: reuben on May 18, 2021, 07:02:31 PM
Wait, 2017 already happened? Wtf?
(https://i.imgur.com/BepiMqy.jpg)
Lol 2017. Sweet summer children...
Post by: mj2sexay on May 18, 2021, 07:06:48 PM
Yes, you've managed to deduce that 2017 is indeed in the past.
You're such a smart lil guy, I'm proud of you bud.
You made it seem like it was history so far back that it's not worth bringing up. It was four years ago.
Post by: Badger on May 19, 2021, 10:19:22 PM
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1395210200034971652?s=19
Post by: Badger on May 21, 2021, 12:50:25 PM
https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1395790089310064651?s=19
Post by: delavan on May 21, 2021, 10:18:09 PM
Too bad this story was sat on and didn't come out when it happened
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1395210200034971652?s=19
Geez! You working for the Orange clown Clown face too huh Thinking face well there’s that! Democrats can’t be distracted by shiny trash 🗑
Not one gives a excrement !!!
Why are you doing this tonight? Ratings down?
Tabloid fodder. Be better than this.
You guys are really scoring points to get blocked, aren't you???
Lol it's normal to be hyper-protective of one's spouse
She is precious.
I think there are many news items to explore. This is not one of them.
100+ Republicans just voted to sweep the actions of Jan. 6th under the rug.
But our media is too busy reexamining a debate from two years ago.
So?
There's no way I'd slam FLOTUS for that!
She's the FLOTUS this country needs, not a nude model who doesn't give a crap about our country.
Did you have a stroke? I cannot think of a good reason to write this unless someone wanted to stir up a fight - what’s the motive? Time to cancel my subscription.
Post by: Badger on May 21, 2021, 10:19:24 PM
Geez! You working for the Orange clown Clown face too huh Thinking face well there’s that! Democrats can’t be distracted by shiny trash#BlueMAGA
Not one gives a excrement !!!
Why are you doing this tonight? Ratings down?
Tabloid fodder. Be better than this.
You guys are really scoring points to get blocked, aren't you???
Lol it's normal to be hyper-protective of one's spouse
She is precious.
I think there are many news items to explore. This is not one of them.
100+ Republicans just voted to sweep the actions of Jan. 6th under the rug.
But our media is too busy reexamining a debate from two years ago.
So?
There's no way I'd slam FLOTUS for that!
She's the FLOTUS this country needs, not a nude model who doesn't give a crap about our country.
Did you have a stroke? I cannot think of a good reason to write this unless someone wanted to stir up a fight - what’s the motive? Time to cancel my subscription.
Post by: delavan on May 21, 2021, 10:31:59 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 24, 2021, 02:49:38 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 27, 2021, 04:19:09 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on May 27, 2021, 06:18:27 PM
https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/1398005456543653890?s=21
DeMoCrAcY dIeS iN dArKnEsS
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 27, 2021, 10:48:56 PM
https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/1398005456543653890?s=21
Should have gotten the covfefe
Post by: mj2sexay on May 28, 2021, 07:34:43 AM
Should have gotten the covfefe
It is indeed a lot of fun to harken back to better days with better leadership.
Post by: Badger on May 28, 2021, 05:18:22 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 28, 2021, 07:31:06 PM
Post by: reuben on May 28, 2021, 08:02:12 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210528/ce9227877e9e5e9475e4672a2db9f9dc.jpg)
Plus according to the color-coding, Trump ordered dainty, girlie F-35's, while Alpha Joe ordered strong, masculine F-35's.
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 28, 2021, 10:25:14 PM
Post by: Johnny English on May 28, 2021, 10:29:53 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210528/ce9227877e9e5e9475e4672a2db9f9dc.jpg)I think I've said this about military spending before, but while I'm not a fan of it it's better than just giving tax breaks to already profitable companies. At least military spending creates actual jobs.
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 28, 2021, 10:37:19 PM
I think I've said this about military spending before, but while I'm not a fan of it it's better than just giving tax breaks to already profitable companies. At least military spending creates actual jobs.
It creates jobs but the F-35 is less of a strike fighter and more of a series of design flaws, criminal subcontracting practices and excessively complicated supply and logistics expenditures. This platform has been one of the worst wastes of tax dollars since its acquisition stage.
Post by: Johnny English on May 28, 2021, 10:43:24 PM
It creates jobs but the F-35 is less of a strike fighter and more of a series of design flaws, criminal subcontracting practices and excessively complicated supply and logistics expenditures. This platform has been one of the worst wastes of tax dollars since its acquisition stage.It's basic Keynesian theory though. The modern day equivalent of paying men to dig holes and fill them up again.
It doesn't matter that you're paying them to build excrement war machines. In a way, it's probably better.
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 28, 2021, 11:05:26 PM
It's basic Keynesian theory though. The modern day equivalent of paying men to dig holes and fill them up again.
It doesn't matter that you're paying them to build excrement war machines. In a way, it's probably better.
I’d rather not be in or covered by a excrement war machine, but then again my perspective on the matter is a little skewed.
Post by: Johnny English on May 28, 2021, 11:15:01 PM
I’d rather not be in or covered by a excrement war machine, but then again my perspective on the matter is a little skewed.
Understood, but if you build excrement war machines then you (the greater you, not you personally) might be less tempted to show off to everyone how good they are. Economic benefit without social detriment.
Bridges and fibre optics and renewable energy networks would still be a better choice than war machines though, excrement or otherwise.
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 28, 2021, 11:19:15 PM
Bridges and fibre optics and renewable energy networks would still be a better choice than war machines though, excrement or otherwise.
No argument on that point.
Post by: mj2sexay on May 30, 2021, 03:53:16 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on May 31, 2021, 01:27:05 PM
Understood, but if you build excrement war machines then you (the greater you, not you personally) might be less tempted to show off to everyone how good they are. Economic benefit without social detriment.
Bridges and fibre optics and renewable energy networks would still be a better choice than war machines though, excrement or otherwise.
Safer road travel? High-speed internet access for all? Escaping the loving arms of fossil fuels? What is this, Marxism 101?
Post by: Badger on June 01, 2021, 06:58:53 AM
Enjoy the long weekend!Completely insensitive remark by Harris considering how many underpaid service workers did not in fact get to enjoy a long weekend.
Oh, also for American civil religion reasons.
Post by: mj2sexay on June 01, 2021, 07:42:35 AM
Completely insensitive remark by Harris considering how many underpaid service workers did not in fact get to enjoy a long weekend.
Oh, also for American civil religion reasons.
Maintaining a healthy respect for the people who make up an institution, even if you don't have a high regard for said institution, isn't a civic religion.
Post by: delavan on June 01, 2021, 09:53:59 AM
Post by: Badger on June 01, 2021, 10:04:36 AM
Maintaining a healthy respect for the people who make up an institution, even if you don't have a high regard for said institution, isn't a civic religion.Inventing reasons to get mad at people over it seems like one. Please don't make me defend this woman.
Post by: mj2sexay on June 01, 2021, 10:07:13 AM
enjoy the fweedom
;D ;D ;D I see what you did there!
Post by: Badger on June 01, 2021, 10:29:50 AM
https://twitter.com/blakehounshell/status/1399673372460654592?s=19
Post by: AlioTheFool on June 01, 2021, 02:00:49 PM
Who is this for? Who are these voters who crave bipartisan legislation?
https://twitter.com/blakehounshell/status/1399673372460654592?s=19
Michael Flynn
Post by: Badger on June 01, 2021, 04:38:02 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on June 01, 2021, 10:39:53 PM
Inventing reasons to get mad at people over it seems like one. Please don't make me defend this woman.
I'm not inventing anything.
She purposefully pissed over a day of solemn remembrance for literally millions in this country.
Post by: Badger on June 02, 2021, 06:31:02 AM
I'm not inventing anything.So any other posts she made honoring the day don't matter because she also suggested people might enjoy having the day off? Seems like manufactured outrage.
She purposefully pissed over a day of solemn remembrance for literally millions in this country.
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 02, 2021, 07:14:15 AM
So any other posts she made honoring the day don't matter because she also suggested people might enjoy having the day off? Seems like manufactured outrage.
That's because it's manufacturing outrage.
Post by: Johnny English on June 02, 2021, 07:49:02 AM
So any other posts she made honoring the day don't matter because she also suggested people might enjoy having the day off? Seems like manufactured outrage.If you didn't spend the day sitting in a darkened room with your hand on your heart reading a list of names lost in service then you should be ashamed of yourself.
Post by: Badger on June 02, 2021, 09:03:03 AM
If she'd said "have a HAPPY Memorial Day" there might be an argument that's a faux pas.
Post by: dcm1602 on June 02, 2021, 06:54:28 PM
The reason I invoked civic religion is because the reaction reminds me of when people get mad over calling Christmas break "winter break." As if someone saying "enjoy the time off" must be told "excuse me but we're celebrating the birth of our lord and savior Jesus Christ." An innocuous statement completely blown out of proportion.
If she'd said "have a HAPPY Memorial Day" there might be an argument that's a faux pas.
I mean 93% of Americans celebrate Christmas.
Pretty sure it doesn't have much to do with Jesus these days
Post by: Badger on June 02, 2021, 07:04:25 PM
I mean 93% of Americans celebrate Christmas.Which is why it's silly when people get bent out of shape about the secularization of Christmas (or at others for not perpetually virtue signaling hard enough for the troops).
Pretty sure it doesn't have much to do with Jesus these days
Post by: dcm1602 on June 06, 2021, 02:35:52 AM
Which is why it's silly when people get bent out of shape about the secularization of Christmas (or at others for not perpetually virtue signaling hard enough for the troops).
Spoiler alert, Americans are a bunch of extremely whiney bitches. And it applies to all races religions creeds of all ages.
Post by: delavan on June 08, 2021, 11:13:32 AM
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1401565578876293123
Post by: Badger on June 08, 2021, 11:40:34 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 08, 2021, 05:28:44 PM
Hunter Biden’s America
Post by: Badger on June 08, 2021, 07:35:12 PM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1402388577305178124?s=21JE has issued Hunter a lifetime ban from JO
Hunter Biden’s America
Post by: Johnny English on June 08, 2021, 08:29:18 PM
JE has issued Hunter a lifetime ban from JO
Just as a point of note, I have never banned anyone from JO, or indeed YDKF. Except Puck for shits and giggles, and he probably deserved it.
Post by: delavan on June 09, 2021, 12:37:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHB1L_YdVw8
https://twitter.com/douglasemhoff/status/1201926112273551360
Post by: Badger on June 11, 2021, 09:06:13 AM
https://v.redd.it/loq29t946g471
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210611/b92534fd87a4c61eb5e3279baf0bbd3c.jpg)
Post by: delavan on June 11, 2021, 10:38:06 AM
Do not come: )
https://v.redd.it/loq29t946g471
Kammy goin' down on Frisco Willie Brown vs Oaktown Willie Brown - political expediency
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Willie_Brown_%2847998147167%29.jpg/640px-Willie_Brown_%2847998147167%29.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/US_Navy_070208-N-4965F-001_A_young_patron_hands_a_football_to_Willie_Brown%2C_Hall_of_Fame_cornerback_for_the_Oakland_Raiders%2C_during_an_autograph_signing_session_at_the_Pearl_Harbor_Navy_Exchange.jpg/640px-thumbnail.jpg)
Post by: insanity on June 11, 2021, 10:49:24 AM
Do not comeYou're missing the rhetoric about them all being murderers, rapists, and drug dealers. Oh and also the desire to spend billions to build up trumps ego, I mean wall.
https://v.redd.it/loq29t946g471
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210611/b92534fd87a4c61eb5e3279baf0bbd3c.jpg)
Post by: Badger on June 11, 2021, 11:50:13 AM
You're missing the rhetoric about them all being murderers, rapists, and drug dealers. Oh and also the desire to spend billions to build up trumps ego, I mean wall.Peak liberalism
It's ok to enforce the same inhumane policy as the right as long as you're polite about it
Post by: mj2sexay on June 11, 2021, 12:49:50 PM
Btw, as off as that press conference was, if the sum total of her visit was to tell migrants not to come, maybe I'll like this administration more than I thought!
Post by: AlioTheFool on June 11, 2021, 01:18:06 PM
Peak liberalism
It's ok to enforce the same inhumane policy as the right as long as you're polite about it
Yeah, either we're a safe haven for the tired huddled masses, or we're not.
Post by: delavan on June 11, 2021, 02:14:35 PM
Yeah, either we're a safe haven for the tired huddled masses, or we're not.True, however..
Either the outright uncontrolled breach of American sovereignty should in fact serve as a money-making enterprise for cartel-affiliated coyotes or not. The 'homogeneity' of border crossers is (often) just a narrative.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Statue_of_Liberty%2C_NY.jpg/320px-Statue_of_Liberty%2C_NY.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Coyote_closeup.jpg/320px-Coyote_closeup.jpg)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 13, 2021, 11:05:15 AM
Post by: Coach K on June 13, 2021, 01:33:57 PM
Peak liberalismBingo
It's ok to enforce the same inhumane policy as the right as long as you're polite about it
Post by: Badger on June 13, 2021, 02:12:46 PM
https://twitter.com/comfortablysmug/status/1404084950530498563?s=21Beyond parody
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 13, 2021, 03:52:17 PM
Beyond parody
JFC
Post by: delavan on June 14, 2021, 08:43:51 AM
https://twitter.com/comfortablysmug/status/1404084950530498563?s=21
Joe rocking the Clint get off my lawn rasp
Post by: Badger on June 14, 2021, 03:27:06 PM
https://twitter.com/CaseStudyQB/status/1404193307354451969?s=19
Post by: Badger on June 15, 2021, 04:12:42 PM
https://hannity.com/media-room/joes-sippy-cup-listen-to-joey-pags-updated-version-of-toby-keiths-classic-red-solo-cup/
Post by: Badger on June 16, 2021, 04:47:54 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1405219989712424966?s=19
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 16, 2021, 06:30:22 PM
Come on man
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1405219989712424966?s=19
To be fair, at least half of the country has been actively slamming their hands over their ears and screaming "LALALALALALALALALALALALALALA" since the 60s. And probably 1/4 of thr remainder were either planning it or applauding.
Post by: delavan on June 16, 2021, 08:18:27 PM
Biden may never recover from this
https://hannity.com/media-room/joes-sippy-cup-listen-to-joey-pags-updated-version-of-toby-keiths-classic-red-solo-cup/
where awful meets lame or as chas barkley would put it that's turrible
Post by: d sw0rdz on June 16, 2021, 11:43:15 PM
Come on man
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1405219989712424966?s=19
is that the shire behind him?
Post by: MBGreen on June 17, 2021, 06:11:26 AM
is that the shire behind him?mmmm..strawberries and cream is best from the Shire.
Post by: mj2sexay on June 17, 2021, 06:45:31 AM
Post by: Badger on June 17, 2021, 07:27:38 AM
Amazing how the people who screamed "RuSsIaN aSsEt" for four years have gone conspicuously silent as Biden gets absolutely assrammed in every conceivable way by Putin.They're not silent, they're praising him for sitting like a big boy.
But you're pretty well versed in the Emperor's clothes routine so you get it.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210617/1729ffff89117a4ceace6db94b8f672f.jpg)
Post by: Johnny English on June 17, 2021, 07:49:52 AM
They're not silent, they're praising him for sitting like a big boy.
But you're pretty well versed in the Emperor's clothes routine so you get it.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210617/1729ffff89117a4ceace6db94b8f672f.jpg)
Well, body language matters. That's not how I'd personally read it (and actually body language is harder to read from a single photo), but it's kind of the point of this little charade.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 17, 2021, 10:00:48 AM
Post by: Badger on June 17, 2021, 01:48:42 PM
Well, body language matters.
For who? People who treat politics as sports maybe.
Post by: Johnny English on June 17, 2021, 02:25:18 PM
For who? People who treat politics as sports maybe.
Body language matters in everything. We all read it. What do you think "women's intuition" really is?
It's no less important in a situation like yesterday than the things coming out of their mouth, and it's probably every bit as scripted.
Post by: MBGreen on June 17, 2021, 02:53:16 PM
Biden is clearly getting cucked by Putin who is Manspreading and letting his nuts hang
are you ridin' with Biden?
Post by: d sw0rdz on June 17, 2021, 04:16:30 PM
Body language matters in everything. We all read it. What do you think "women's intuition" really is?
It's no less important in a situation like yesterday than the things coming out of their mouth, and it's probably every bit as scripted.
i'm here for this
we know my boy JE's fvcked bitties in the past purely based off his immaculate posture
Post by: Johnny English on June 17, 2021, 04:20:25 PM
i'm here for this
we know my boy JE's fvcked bitties in the past purely based off his immaculate posture
I know we've not met, but others will be able to confirm that I'd be two inches taller if I wasn't so bowlegged. That's all the body language the ladies need, if you get what I'm saying.
Post by: Badger on June 17, 2021, 04:51:46 PM
Body language matters in everything. We all read it. What do you think "women's intuition" really is?Terminal west wing brain
It's no less important in a situation like yesterday than the things coming out of their mouth, and it's probably every bit as scripted.
Post by: Johnny English on June 17, 2021, 04:59:09 PM
Terminal west wing brainI guess you get credit for using words rsther than pictures, but not much.
Post by: Badger on June 17, 2021, 10:23:26 PM
I guess you get credit for using words rsther than pictures, but not much.Nothing Joe Biden did or didn't do in his meeting with Putin will improve or worsen the life of any American and pretending otherwise is believing in magic.
Post by: Johnny English on June 17, 2021, 10:46:48 PM
Nothing Joe Biden did or didn't do in his meeting with Putin will improve or worsen the life of any American and pretending otherwise is believing in magic.Also, nothing that he did or didn't do in his meeting with Putin will improve or worsen the value of racehorse eggs, and I didn't claim that either. But go ahead and keep inventing things to argue about if you want.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 17, 2021, 11:05:29 PM
I know we've not met, but others will be able to confirm that I'd be two inches taller if I wasn't so bowlegged. That's all the body language the ladies need, if you get what I'm saying.
This guy is 90% accent and 10% bowlegs but everything else is true
Post by: Badger on June 18, 2021, 07:12:16 AM
Also, nothing that he did or didn't do in his meeting with Putin will improve or worsen the value of racehorse eggs, and I didn't claim that either. But go ahead and keep inventing things to argue about if you want.You said it matters. If it doesn't improve our material conditions, it doesn't matter. Follow along.
Post by: mj2sexay on June 18, 2021, 12:11:42 PM
No refunds!
Post by: dcm1602 on June 18, 2021, 04:00:07 PM
https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/1405882687026520065
No refunds!
After seeing Hunter's texts I think we all know the real reason Biden hasn't given any of his children top posts
Post by: delavan on June 19, 2021, 02:15:33 PM
R.I.P. Pooch
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Champ%2C_Dog_of_Joe_Biden.jpg)
Post by: Badger on June 19, 2021, 02:17:11 PM
While Major got in hot water biting secret service agents, Champ unfortunately bit the dust today.Putin is going to pay for this.
R.I.P. Pooch
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Champ%2C_Dog_of_Joe_Biden.jpg)
Post by: Badger on June 19, 2021, 05:26:28 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 19, 2021, 11:21:24 PM
Post by: Johnny English on June 19, 2021, 11:27:04 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on June 19, 2021, 11:47:32 PM
freak Robert Alai
Racist
Post by: delavan on June 20, 2021, 09:00:45 AM
freak Robert Alai
Second
https://twitter.com/RobertAlai/status/1406308766325280768
Post by: Badger on June 20, 2021, 06:34:24 PM
Post by: delavan on June 22, 2021, 04:49:01 PM
"There's a new artist in town. The name is Biden." - the NYT
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/arts/design/hunter-biden-art.html
Post by: Badger on June 23, 2021, 09:14:54 PM
https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/1407808621103095809?s=19
Post by: d sw0rdz on June 23, 2021, 09:23:59 PM
He said the Swalwell thing
https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/1407808621103095809?s=19
wow lol
Post by: mj2sexay on June 23, 2021, 11:45:20 PM
love how we've gone from a campaign of unity to lifting talking points from a noted douchebag.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 30, 2021, 09:21:25 AM
Half of this guys media questions are about freaking ice cream
Post by: MBGreen on June 30, 2021, 09:47:45 AM
https://twitter.com/abc/status/1409989577008467971?s=21
Half of this guys media questions are about freaking ice cream
I like ice cream
Post by: mj2sexay on June 30, 2021, 09:56:05 AM
https://twitter.com/abc/status/1409989577008467971?s=21
Half of this guys media questions are about freaking ice cream
Remember though, Democracy Dies in Darkness.
Post by: mj2sexay on July 02, 2021, 08:10:32 AM
LOL what the freak is this cringe.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 02, 2021, 09:21:09 AM
Finally he did something
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 02, 2021, 09:21:58 AM
Post by: AlioTheFool on July 02, 2021, 02:13:40 PM
Also, there is no way any of that is true. Food cost is at an all time high here. There’s shortages on everything
Yeah, seriously. JFC the price of everything is increasing. That's some propaganda excrement right there.
Post by: Badger on July 05, 2021, 07:53:17 PM
https://twitter.com/abc/status/1409989577008467971?s=21The other half? Dogs.
Half of this guys media questions are about freaking ice cream
Post by: Badger on July 05, 2021, 07:54:30 PM
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1410709115333234691The most confusing thing is the presentation of the cheese slices to make them look fancy.
LOL what the freak is this cringe.
Post by: Johnny English on July 06, 2021, 05:17:39 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-06/biden-wants-farmers-to-have-right-to-repair-own-equipment-kqs66nov
Post by: Badger on July 06, 2021, 06:07:05 PM
Looking forward to hearing from Badger and mj from their respective sides of the aisle as to why this is awful (clue: it's not, at all).This is anticapitalist and therefore #good
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-06/biden-wants-farmers-to-have-right-to-repair-own-equipment-kqs66nov
Post by: Johnny English on July 06, 2021, 07:04:40 PM
This is anticapitalist and therefore #good
It's more anti-monopolist than anti-capitalist.
Post by: Badger on July 06, 2021, 07:35:45 PM
It's more anti-monopolist than anti-capitalist.Capitalism inherently trends toward monopoly.
Post by: Johnny English on July 06, 2021, 08:22:33 PM
Capitalism inherently trends toward monopoly.Driving downhill inherently trends towards crashes, but with judicious use of the brake and steering wheel we can do it quite successfully.
Post by: Badger on July 07, 2021, 06:35:58 AM
Driving downhill inherently trends towards crashes, but with judicious use of the brake and steering wheel we can do it quite successfully.Gravity doesn't have lobbyists to override your car's controls.
Post by: mj2sexay on July 07, 2021, 08:55:58 AM
This is anticapitalist and therefore #good
I don't know that I'd call this anti-capitalist.
This is a good thing, but like the saying goes, the sun shines on a dogs derriere every once in a while.
Post by: Badger on July 07, 2021, 09:22:27 AM
Now of course any reasonable person would support RTR, but in just the last handful of posts we've demonstrated the 3 main takes - that capitalism is bad, that capitalism has bad parts that can be regulated away, or that the bad parts of capitalism are something else entirely ("crony" capitalism, corporatism, a side effect of government intervention, etc.).
Post by: Johnny English on July 07, 2021, 09:26:00 AM
The argument against RTR is rooted in intellectual property which is one of the exclusionary property rights capitalism needs to function.
Eh, I think it's a lot more nuanced than that. RTR is less about exposing IP and more about enforcing reasonably priced licensing access so that competitive markets around repairs and upgrades can be allowed to exist. Very few people want to actually repair their own cellphone, they just want more options than paying the manufacturer and their monopolistic prices to do it, especially given the manufacturers have a vested interest in not repairing.
Post by: Badger on July 07, 2021, 09:28:52 AM
especially given the manufacturers have a vested interest in not repairing.
Because it goes against the interest of capital.
Post by: Johnny English on July 07, 2021, 09:46:40 AM
Because it goes against the interest of capital.
Which is why we have antitrust legislation. If you need me to get back on my hobby horse about how the US used to be the best in the world at writing and using it, and now isn't, I can. But this is definitely a step back in that direction, which is good.
No system is perfect, but most of them (including capitalism) are logical and predictable, and if they're logical and predictable then they can be anticipated and legislated to ensure that their behaviours are modified. It requires political will to do that though. This demonstrates a bit of that, but I won't be happy until they turn their attention to FAANG.
Post by: Badger on July 07, 2021, 11:20:22 AM
Which is why we have antitrust legislation. If you need me to get back on my hobby horse about how the US used to be the best in the world at writing and using it, and now isn't, I can.
Because it goes against the interest of capital.
Cancer is as cancer does.
Post by: dcm1602 on July 07, 2021, 11:32:11 AM
Looking forward to hearing from Badger and mj from their respective sides of the aisle as to why this is awful (clue: it's not, at all).
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-06/biden-wants-farmers-to-have-right-to-repair-own-equipment-kqs66nov
Apple will crush them
Post by: Badger on July 09, 2021, 03:40:37 PM
Post by: Johnny English on July 09, 2021, 04:08:52 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57783824
The one thing better than a big antitrust action is a controlled dissection of the big outfits under the threat of an antitrust action if they don't. Maybe Bezos, Zuckerberg et al are ready to stop being the Borg and go play with their kids on a beach. Dorsey can go live in a hut on a mountain in Nepal like he really wants to anyway. And the Alphabet weirdos can go do weird stuff.
Post by: bojanglesman on July 09, 2021, 04:28:24 PM
Haven't looked at the details of this, but it seems encouraging.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57783824
The one thing better than a big antitrust action is a controlled dissection of the big outfits under the threat of an antitrust action if they don't. Maybe Bezos, Zuckerberg et al are ready to stop being the Borg and go play with their kids on a beach. Dorsey can go live in a hut on a mountain in Nepal like he really wants to anyway. And the Alphabet weirdos can go do weird stuff.
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The executive order alone, however, does not mean these recommendations will come into force immediately.
The government agencies responsible will need to implement the changes, while some elements could be subject to court challenges.
Nothing will change. I agree, it's encouraging, but nothing beyond minimal changes will happen.
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 12, 2021, 11:09:35 PM
Nice sentiment from POTUS. Would be nice if they dropped rhe embargo and sanctions that helped choke the population and allowed a few powerful members to bottle up what wealth and resources there were left on the island.
Post by: delavan on July 13, 2021, 10:55:58 AM
Post by: delavan on July 13, 2021, 05:27:53 PM
LMAO!!!!
"America's back!!" Thank you Dr. Biden!!!! Thank you Mr. President!!!
Sha'Carri Richardson sits while Blondie gets to attend the 'spectator-free' games??? smh
@mjsexay: there's your ofay privilege.
Post by: mj2sexay on July 13, 2021, 07:54:52 PM
DR JILL BIDEN, AMERICA'S ATHLETIC SEPTUAGENARIAN WILL LEAD THE UNITED STATES OLYMPIC TEAM DURING THE TOKYO OLYMPICS OPENING GAMES!!!!
LMAO!!!!
"America's back!!" Thank you Dr. Biden!!!! Thank you Mr. President!!!
Sha'Carri Richardson sits while Blondie gets to attend the 'spectator-free' games??? smh
@mjsexay: there's your ofay privilege.
LOL.
Anyway I'm just sitting here wondering where that skinny little twink Daniel Dale is to fact check the absolute freaking nonsense that came out of this stupid old codgers mouth today in Philly.
But remember, he was going to heal the soul of this nation. What a freaking joke.
Post by: Badger on July 14, 2021, 11:11:53 AM
https://twitter.com/evanvucci/status/1415333096338120714?s=19
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 14, 2021, 11:21:26 AM
Post by: delavan on July 14, 2021, 01:25:59 PM
Quote from: Badger
https://twitter.com/evanvucci/status/1415333096338120714?s=19
If an 18 year old pop tart can gain access to the WH to help advance a public safety initiative good for her (hope/trust Hunter's not slithering around visiting the 'rents).
Nice kicks sugar..
Post by: Badger on July 15, 2021, 11:37:42 AM
Post by: Badger on July 15, 2021, 11:43:12 AM
https://twitter.com/SuzyKhimm/status/1415351607026458631?s=19
Post by: Badger on July 16, 2021, 01:41:57 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on July 16, 2021, 03:41:33 PM
Socialism is when you cut taxes(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210716/eacba8f293f6303e67dbb761c9b8df18.jpg)
Not sure it's a tax cut when you give a tax credit to people who don't pay taxes paid for by tax hikes
Post by: bojanglesman on July 16, 2021, 03:48:04 PM
Not sure it's a tax cut when you give a tax credit to people who don't pay taxes paid for by tax hikesSo everyone who got a child tax credit doesn't pay taxes?
At this point it isn't paid for by tax increases, it isn't paid for at all.
Post by: dcm1602 on July 16, 2021, 04:02:43 PM
So everyone who got a child tax credit doesn't pay taxes?
At this point it isn't paid for by tax increases, it isn't paid for at all.
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The American Rescue Plan temporarily expands the CTC, extending it in full to low- and middle-income families and paying out the credit periodically instead of as a single lump sum. Specifically, the bill:
Makes the credit fully refundable for 2021, so that families receive the full amount even if they do not have federal income tax liability—as most low-income families with children do not
Increases the amount of the credit from $2,000 to $3,600 for children ages 5 and under
Increases the amount of the credit from $2,000 to $3,000 for children ages 6 to 16 and extends the $3,000 credit to 17-year-olds
Limits the expansion for higher-income families by phasing out the additional $1,000 (and $1,600 for young children) for incomes higher than $112,500 for heads of households, such as single parents, and household incomes above $150,000 for married couples with children. The law does not change the phaseout of the preexisting $2,000-per-child CTC, which begins above $200,000 of income for single adults and $400,000 for married couples
Post by: bojanglesman on July 16, 2021, 04:32:23 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on July 16, 2021, 05:21:21 PM
Yes some people get a credit who don't pay taxes. You insinuated everyone who gets the credit didn't pay any taxes. That isn't true.
Did I?
Post by: bojanglesman on July 16, 2021, 05:37:29 PM
Did I?You made a blanket statement without any specifics. Not every tax credit goes to people that don't pay taxes.
Post by: MBGreen on July 16, 2021, 05:43:45 PM
Did I?freak you, Eoin.
Post by: delavan on July 16, 2021, 06:35:52 PM
Pardon my ignorance but if you don't pay taxes how do you get a tax credit?
Reads like nothin from nothin leaves nothin
Post by: dcm1602 on July 17, 2021, 05:56:00 AM
Pardon my ignorance but if you don't pay taxes how do you get a tax credit?
Reads like nothin from nothin leaves nothin
HOW BIG ARE THE CREDITS?
The credit is $3,600 annually for children under age 6 and $3,000 for children ages 6 to 17. But six months of payments will be advanced on a monthly basis through the end of the year. This means eligible families will receive $300 monthly for each child under 6 and $250 per child older than that.
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This is a change from last year, when the credit totaled $2,000 per child. Families who did not owe the government income taxes were also unable to claim the credit, a restriction that Biden and Congress lifted
Literally welfare
Post by: dcm1602 on July 17, 2021, 05:57:17 AM
You made a blanket statement without any specifics. Not every tax credit goes to people that don't pay taxes.
My blanket statement was it's not a tax cut.
Post by: Badger on July 18, 2021, 10:41:33 PM
Post by: Badger on July 18, 2021, 10:42:02 PM
My blanket statement was it's not a tax cut.For me it is. Why are the Republicans against my tax cut?
Post by: dcm1602 on July 18, 2021, 11:42:05 PM
For me it is. Why are the Republicans against my tax cut?
For the vast majority of people it's intended and designed to be welfare
Post by: insanity on July 19, 2021, 05:35:50 AM
Was inside a gas station picking up beer in the Poconos.
Gas station attendendant 1: did you get your $250 check in the mail from the government for child assistance.
Gas station attendendant 2: no what's that
Gas station attendendant 1: explains the credit and how she's excited about it.
Gas station attendendant 2: oh man I need to sign up for that
Me: Joe biden, bring us back am I right?
Gas station attendendant 1: more like making us poor
But...the tax credit you were just praising....
Post by: mj2sexay on July 19, 2021, 07:39:16 AM
Witnessed a fun one this weekend.
Was inside a gas station picking up beer in the Poconos.
Gas station attendendant 1: did you get your $250 check in the mail from the government for child assistance.
Gas station attendendant 2: no what's that
Gas station attendendant 1: explains the credit and how she's excited about it.
Gas station attendendant 2: oh man I need to sign up for that
Me: Joe biden, bring us back am I right?
Gas station attendendant 1: more like making us poor
But...the tax credit you were just praising....
LMAO.
Post by: bojanglesman on July 19, 2021, 07:50:29 AM
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1416871139658305538?s=20I should probably recognize how tone deaf that is, but instead my fat derriere wants to go get ice cream.
Post by: Badger on July 20, 2021, 07:22:38 AM
Post by: delavan on July 20, 2021, 09:09:23 AM
https://twitter.com/MayaSchenwar/status/1417320539144826890?s=19
Talk about trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube...
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Post by: delavan on July 20, 2021, 05:21:42 PM
Post by: Johnny English on July 20, 2021, 06:02:14 PM
Brady at the WH today: 1st joke ('40% don't believe') was cute; the 'Sleepy Tom' jab was somewhat brazen and out of place....arrogant fvck
I was chatting with a couple of the guys earlier today, I know it's anathema to say around these parts but since he left the clutches of Darth Bill he has been hilarious, and even perhaps something approaching likeable.
Post by: delavan on July 20, 2021, 06:42:43 PM
I was chatting with a couple of the guys earlier today, I know it's anathema to say around these parts but since he left the clutches of Darth Bill he has been hilarious, and even perhaps something approaching likeable.
I agree post-Bill Tom's not a problem per se, I just thought the Trump-twinged "sleepy" note was a little off-key so to speak. Biden himself aside, you're a guest of The Office so imho when in doubt, just don't; save the cheeky irreverence for another time.
Post by: Johnny English on July 20, 2021, 06:53:48 PM
I agree post-Bill Tom's not a problem per se, I just thought the Trump-twinged "sleepy" note was a little off-key so to speak. Biden himself aside, you're a guest of The Office so imho when in doubt, just don't; save the cheeky irreverence for another time.
I don't think so, unlike the thin skinned spastic who was there previously Biden is plenty able to take a joke at his own expense. Biden also had his own quite good crack, mentioning that Brady and Arians were the oldest QB and HC to win a Super Bowl but he wasn't going to make jokes about it. This seems like the perfect time and place for cheeky irreverence, TBH.
It's nice that some semblance of normal custom appears to have returned to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and that there's a grown up in residence.
Post by: Johnny English on July 20, 2021, 07:15:03 PM
Post by: Badger on July 20, 2021, 09:13:46 PM
Biden himself aside, you're a guest of The Office so imho when in doubt, just don't; save the cheeky irreverence for another time.
He should have pissed on the rug and blamed the dog.
Post by: Badger on July 20, 2021, 09:14:35 PM
I don't think so, unlike the thin skinned spastic who was there previously Biden is plenty able to take a joke at his own expense. Biden also had his own quite good crack, mentioning that Brady and Arians were the oldest QB and HC to win a Super Bowl but he wasn't going to make jokes about it. This seems like the perfect time and place for cheeky irreverence, TBH.
It's nice that some semblance of normal custom appears to have returned to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and that there's a grown up in residence.
Ew
Post by: delavan on July 21, 2021, 01:08:36 PM
I don't think so, unlike theMr. Gorbachev, take down your signature~!
thin skinned
spastic who was there previously Biden is
plenty able to take a joke at his own expense.
Biden also had his own quite good crack, mentioning that Brady and Arians were the oldest QB and HC to win a Super Bowl but he wasn't going to make jokes about it. This seems like the perfect time and place for cheeky irreverence, TBH.
It's nice that some semblance of normal custom appears to have returned to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and that there's a grown up in residence.
Playfully busting chops is one thing; using a Trump-originated ('sleepy') swipe however playful could've been avoided altogether, again imho.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/07/tom-brady-joins-president-biden-at-white-house-to-mock-trump.htmlFrom the very first paragraph of the article:
"It was a scene straight out of a Donald Trump nightmare, and quite possibly the worst day of Donald Trump’s life."
Karen, pleeeeze.... lemme guess: the rest of the 'article' wasn't a hyperbolic, sniping screed looking to emotionally extract their pound of flesh. Me, I'm so utterly sick of Donald J. Trump--enough already--as well as uppity sanctimonious prigs that continue the "but Trump!" tourettes bedwetting. Enough...move on...
He should have pissed on the rug and blamed the dog.
Nice touch. Me, I'd have gastronomically prepped the rectal boilers and (silently) broken wind like there was no tomorrow (while blaming it on the dog) and cleared out the place.
#smellyjoe
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2021, 01:15:25 PM
I don't think so, unlike the thin skinned spastic who was there previously Biden is plenty able to take a joke at his own expense. Biden also had his own quite good crack, mentioning that Brady and Arians were the oldest QB and HC to win a Super Bowl but he wasn't going to make jokes about it. This seems like the perfect time and place for cheeky irreverence, TBH.
It's nice that some semblance of normal custom appears to have returned to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and that there's a grown up in residence.
Yes Biden is very thick skinned.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/10/joe-biden-lying-dog-faced-pony-soldier-new-hampshire
Post by: Badger on July 21, 2021, 04:13:24 PM
lol Kamala -2 approval
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2021, 04:31:41 PM
https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1417935751766024194?s=19
lol Kamala -2 approval
That's actually fairly in line with Rasmussen who has Biden at 50/48.
Post by: Johnny English on July 21, 2021, 05:58:34 PM
Yes Biden is very thick skinned.You are the absolute whataboutest of whataboutists.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/10/joe-biden-lying-dog-faced-pony-soldier-new-hampshire
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2021, 05:59:39 PM
You are the absolute whataboutest of whataboutists.
How is that whataboutism as opposed to directly addressing a (false) claim?
Post by: Badger on July 21, 2021, 06:09:26 PM
Post by: Badger on July 21, 2021, 07:25:03 PM
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1418000816917594118?s=19
Post by: Johnny English on July 21, 2021, 07:40:17 PM
How is that whataboutism as opposed to directly addressing a (false) claim?
Well, for a start the very article you linked suggests that no one was taking offense and it was clearly a moment of levity, albeit a slightly weird one.
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There didn’t seem to be any hard feelings – footage showed the audience laughing at Biden’s quip, and even Moore seems to be having a little giggle.
Also, how is it false to call Trump thin skinned? Feel free to not answer that one....
Post by: dcm1602 on July 21, 2021, 07:45:16 PM
It's just a stutter bro
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1418000816917594118?s=19
I know people like to make fun of Biden for being senile and what not. But in that second video, holy excrement does he have some serious looks of dementia in his face/eyes
Maybe he got some botox or something to attempt to look younger, or he's just aged horrifically the last year
Post by: Badger on July 21, 2021, 08:05:22 PM
I know people like to make fun of Biden for being senile and what not. But in that second video, holy excrement does he have some serious looks of dementia in his face/eyesBut aren't you glad there's an "adult" in the White House again?
Maybe he got some botox or something to attempt to look younger, or he's just aged horrifically the last year
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2021, 08:20:05 PM
Also, how is it false to call Trump thin skinned? Feel free to not answer that one....
It's not.
I never said it was.
I never mentioned Trump at all.
I don't know why all roads have to lead back to him as opposed to me disagreeing with the idea that Joe Biden has thick skin. He most certainly does not.
Donald Trump has unbelievably thin skin. There. Now we can be friends again. But if anyones engaging in whataboutism...
And leave it of course to theguardian to try and run cover, but the young lady who asked the question said the following to VOX of all people
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“Joe Biden has been performing incredibly poorly in this race,” Moore told the Washington Post. “His inability to answer a simple question from a nobody college student like me only exacerbates that reality.”
If it was a joke, she certainly didn't get it.
Post by: Johnny English on July 21, 2021, 08:27:10 PM
It's not.
I never said it was.
I never mentioned Trump at all.
Oh, I thought you were saying that my claim of him being thin skinned was false. Apologies.
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2021, 08:29:25 PM
Oh, I thought you were saying that my claim of him being thin skinned was false. Apologies.
I actually said out loud "oh God no."
Our opinions of his job performance obviously wildly diverge but Trump's incredibly vain and thin skinned.
Post by: dcm1602 on July 22, 2021, 05:50:20 AM
But aren't you glad there's an "adult" in the White House again?
It would be like being glad someone kicked me in the balls because at least they didn't hit them with a sledgehammer.
None of these clowns can live up to the legacy of Dick and Bush
Post by: Badger on July 22, 2021, 06:26:11 AM
Post by: mj2sexay on July 22, 2021, 11:55:58 AM
Just so interesting how that works.
Post by: Badger on July 22, 2021, 01:48:51 PM
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1418216763783798784?s=19
Post by: mj2sexay on July 22, 2021, 01:55:07 PM
Someone really should fact check this senile bitch
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1418216763783798784?s=19
LOL glad to see him come around considering he called it a relic previously.
You know how I feel about it, so no need to go round and round. I know Trump also wanted the filibuster scrapped when he was President, he was wrong as well.
Post by: Badger on July 22, 2021, 03:02:39 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on July 22, 2021, 03:07:03 PM
Amazing that Daniel Dale hasn't rushed to debunk any of the claims made by Biden last night including the idiotic "Jim Crow of the 21st century" idiocy.
Just so interesting how that works.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics/fact-check-biden-cnn-town-hall-july/index.html
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Fact check: Biden makes false claims about Covid-19, auto prices and other subjects at CNN town hall
By Daniel Dale and Tara Subramaniam, CNN
Post by: Badger on July 23, 2021, 09:31:12 AM
https://unherd.com/2021/07/wokeness-will-destroy-america/
Post by: bojanglesman on July 23, 2021, 09:42:51 AM
As always, conservatives remain primarily concerned with things that are definitely real and worth worrying about.
https://unherd.com/2021/07/wokeness-will-destroy-america/
How do you find this excrement?
Post by: Badger on July 23, 2021, 09:49:54 AM
How do you find this excrement?Via a podcast that was making fun of it.
Post by: Badger on July 27, 2021, 10:39:24 AM
Post by: dcm1602 on July 27, 2021, 10:44:27 AM
https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1420045942162665472?s=19
Did the ACLU give their updates on their case against the NSA unmasking Tucker Carlson?
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 27, 2021, 12:00:50 PM
Did the ACLU give their updates on their case against the NSA unmasking Tucker Carlson?
Did you confuse Badger with Google again?
Post by: mj2sexay on July 27, 2021, 10:02:03 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics/fact-check-biden-cnn-town-hall-july/index.html
Ah so this will be the game.
Attempt to pick apart either the obvious yet benign under the guise of objectivity, as if they EVER afforded Trump similar latitude in not calling out Biden for his Jim Crow 2.0 absolute horseshit.
CNN is a joke and Dale a blatant propagandist.
Post by: mj2sexay on July 29, 2021, 05:18:52 PM
Nothing to see here folks, certainly not the President's idiot crackhead son enriching himself off his fathers position.
Post by: Badger on August 02, 2021, 10:46:10 PM
https://twitter.com/TheFirstonTV/status/1422218131871784967?s=19
Post by: delavan on August 02, 2021, 11:37:24 PM
It's a stutter
https://twitter.com/TheFirstonTV/status/1422218131871784967?s=19
& worthy of a shudder
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/1954_-_Gentlemen_Prefer_Blondes_-_Jun_-_Melody_Circle_-_Allentown_PA.jpg/184px-1954_-_Gentlemen_Prefer_Blondes_-_Jun_-_Melody_Circle_-_Allentown_PA.jpg)
Post by: mj2sexay on August 05, 2021, 10:26:54 AM
Post by: Badger on August 05, 2021, 12:26:27 PM
Glad to see the Biden Administration outwardly and proudly circumventing existing law, the Constitution, and the most recent SCOTUS ruling on the subject by extending the eviction moratorium.Next step, Land Reform Movement
Post by: bojanglesman on August 05, 2021, 12:31:15 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on August 05, 2021, 12:32:23 PM
Next step, Land Reform Movement
I sometimes wonder how much of a better place the world would be if Chiang Kai-Shek wasn't such a freaking incompetent military tactician/politician.
Der cumin fer yer bibles and yer gunss!!!
I mean, they very much are coming for people's private property regardless of existing law with excrement like this.
Post by: Badger on August 07, 2021, 06:17:39 AM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1423784968359223298?s=19
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 10, 2021, 01:56:16 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 15, 2021, 12:32:24 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on August 15, 2021, 12:40:42 PM
What does Joe Biden actually doYour mom.
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Post by: Badger on August 15, 2021, 01:17:51 PM
What does Joe Biden actually doAll septuagenarian president know how to do is eat ice cream and lie
Post by: Johnny English on August 15, 2021, 07:03:07 PM
What does Joe Biden actually do
Leads the free world, apparently.
Post by: dcm1602 on August 15, 2021, 07:04:20 PM
Leads the free world, apparently.
Explains a lot about the covid pandemic
Post by: mj2sexay on August 16, 2021, 11:12:43 AM
Someone should tell whoever's spreading that hashtag that the VP is a verifiable retard as well.
Post by: bojanglesman on August 16, 2021, 11:33:51 AM
25th Amendment trending on twitter.I don't think she's a retard, but I think we can all agree no one wants to see that.
Someone should tell whoever's spreading that hashtag that the VP is a verifiable retard as well.
Post by: delavan on August 16, 2021, 12:17:57 PM
I don't think she's a retard, but I think we can all agree no one wants to see that.
Agree that the cocksucking opportunist isn't a retard and shouldn't be prez
SMD K
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Willie_Brown_%2847998148102%29.jpg/320px-Willie_Brown_%2847998148102%29.jpg)
Post by: bojanglesman on August 16, 2021, 12:46:39 PM
Agree that the cocksucking opportunist isn't a retard and shouldn't be prezSurface mount device?
SMD K
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Willie_Brown_%2847998148102%29.jpg/320px-Willie_Brown_%2847998148102%29.jpg)
Post by: mj2sexay on August 17, 2021, 09:33:43 AM
Glad to see Nicole Wallace literally throwing herself on his johnson though post-speech. Brian Williams (lol) tried the same thing before getting promptly shut down.
Post by: Badger on August 20, 2021, 03:42:08 PM
Inexcusable
Post by: bojanglesman on August 20, 2021, 04:14:19 PM
https://twitter.com/tylerpager/status/1428809079200403459?s=19Rahm is the Sam Ficken of politicians.
Inexcusable
Post by: Badger on August 20, 2021, 05:50:20 PM
Rahm is the Sam Ficken of politicians.At least Sam Ficken *might* be a decent human being. Rahm is neither that nor suited to this job in any way.
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 20, 2021, 07:41:30 PM
Post by: Badger on August 20, 2021, 07:49:17 PM
On the plus side, it would get Rahm out of the country.The good people of Japan don't deserve that.
Post by: mj2sexay on August 26, 2021, 04:44:55 PM
LOL this stupid freaking demented old bat isn't in charge.
Post by: delavan on August 27, 2021, 02:27:05 PM
"I've been instructed to call upon..."
LOL this stupid freaking demented old bat isn't in charge.
Then again you had this empty-headed idiot....
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Trump_Hair.png/316px-Trump_Hair.png)
Thinking he was Jonas Salk, promoting...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Clorox.jpg/320px-Clorox.jpg)
You can say all you want about the demented bat-in-absentia.......doesn't matter ......
RON KLAIN - 2024 !!!
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Paul-wunderlich-ebw-01.jpg/146px-Paul-wunderlich-ebw-01.jpg)
Post by: mj2sexay on September 03, 2021, 02:45:43 PM
This imbecile continues to be an absolute sack of excrement.
Post by: Badger on September 03, 2021, 07:19:05 PM
I wonder if it's a solid financial gambit to start making "I was With Joe At the Tree of Life Synegogue" shirts.Too wordy, gotta keep it simpler for the target audience.
This imbecile continues to be an absolute sack of excrement.
Post by: dcm1602 on September 06, 2021, 11:38:47 PM
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-chants-break-college-football-games-country-1626438
Post by: Badger on September 07, 2021, 10:07:58 PM
Post by: delavan on September 07, 2021, 11:00:05 PM
https://v.redd.it/cf6z5gq394m71https://www.wikihow.com/Escape-from-a-Straitjacket
Post by: Badger on September 21, 2021, 09:52:14 AM
"This is not who we are"
Post by: dcm1602 on September 21, 2021, 10:02:54 AM
Post by: delavan on September 21, 2021, 10:13:57 AM
I bet if we had a wall we wouldn't need crazy cowboys reining in migrants
If only the Haitians had special interest groups (domestic & otherwise) bankrolling this type swag
https://www.amazon.com/Joe-Biden-Please-Let-T-Shirt/dp/B08ZRWM16K
Post by: Badger on September 21, 2021, 02:52:29 PM
https://twitter.com/WonderKing82/status/1440298489267687429?s=19
Post by: dcm1602 on September 21, 2021, 02:57:27 PM
Obligatory "Twitter isn't real life" but the most brain-damaged Blue MAGA folks have decided the Haitians at the border are GOP plants
https://twitter.com/WonderKing82/status/1440298489267687429?s=19
I mean it's highly questionable to be wearing those shirts in Texas
Maybe if they were sneaking into California or something that might work. In Texas that's probably more likely to get you shot
Post by: Badger on September 22, 2021, 05:53:12 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 22, 2021, 08:02:39 PM
Post by: Badger on September 23, 2021, 09:24:04 AM
https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1441039243631939584?s=19
Post by: delavan on September 23, 2021, 10:57:38 AM
US Special Envoy to Haiti is resigning over migrant deportations, and the administration is already smearing him
https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1441039243631939584?s=19
So an administration mouthpiece describes Special Envoy Foote as a person who would “shout people down and cut people off?” That's rich.
Post by: Badger on September 23, 2021, 12:38:37 PM
So an administration mouthpiece describes Special Envoy Foote as a person who would “shout people down and cut people off?” That's rich.Didn't you know? Interpersonal tact is more important that material policy impact.
Post by: Badger on October 24, 2021, 10:02:56 AM
Should have been done years ago.
Post by: mj2sexay on October 26, 2021, 03:24:08 PM
Can't imagine what they would do if there was say, a play in Central Park depicting his violent assassination.
Post by: Badger on October 26, 2021, 05:18:54 PM
WaPo losing its excrement over Lets Go Brandon before categorizing the criticism towards Biden as "more vulgar and widespread than any other President in recent memory" is so on brand.https://youtu.be/cfvTXnLmT08
Can't imagine what they would do if there was say, a play in Central Park depicting his violent assassination.
Post by: delavan on October 26, 2021, 06:37:14 PM
https://youtu.be/cfvTXnLmT08
In the "well what about?!!" swing of things it should be noted that GWAR have killed every sitting president onstage since Ronald Reagan. Further, they've taken the sword to Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Nancy Reagan, John Kerry, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin and plenty of other bigwigs from all ends of the political spectrum so in an age of extreme division, GWAR remains a beacon of equality.
For your viewing pleasure here's a self-flagellating Geo. W. Bush shown "shaking hands with 'the General'" (before being disemboweled) which makes Joe B's de-cap look like child's play comparitively-speaking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rUh5UIJt30
Lastly, as someone who's probably old enough to be your grandfather it's either sad or amusingly rad that I can still quote by heart the lyrics to GWAR's "Rock and Roll Never Felt So Good" ..... sigh....they just don't write love songs like that anymore....
Post by: delavan on October 26, 2021, 06:54:37 PM
WaPo losing its excrement over Lets Go Brandon before categorizing the criticism towards Biden as "more vulgar and widespread than any other President in recent memory" is so on brand.^ Easy killer.
From Wapo itself:
Correction: A previous version of this article incorrectly said a crowd broke into a “Let’s go Brandon” chant during a Donald Trump Jr. speech in Georgia. The crowd broke into a “F--- Joe Biden!” chant at that speech in September. The error, which was inserted by an editor, has been corrected.
Post by: Badger on October 26, 2021, 10:52:02 PM
In the "well what about?!!" swing of things it should be noted that GWAR have killed every sitting president onstage since Ronald Reagan. Further, they've taken the sword to Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Nancy Reagan, John Kerry, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin and plenty of other bigwigs from all ends of the political spectrum so in an age of extreme division, GWAR remains a beacon of equality.I'm aware, I've seen GWAR live.
For your viewing pleasure here's a self-flagellating Geo. W. Bush shown "shaking hands with 'the General'" (before being disemboweled) which makes Joe B's de-cap look like child's play comparitively-speaking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rUh5UIJt30
Lastly, as someone who's probably old enough to be your grandfather it's either sad or amusingly rad that I can still quote by heart the lyrics to GWAR's "Rock and Roll Never Felt So Good" ..... sigh....they just don't write love songs like that anymore....
Post by: mj2sexay on October 27, 2021, 09:41:05 AM
https://youtu.be/cfvTXnLmT08
You're reaching.
Crowds chanting freak Joe Biden are a bridge too far, but flipping off Trump's motorcade was an example of principled resistance.
But on a somewhat related note, GWAR's kicked derriere since I grew up watching Beavis and Butthead.
Post by: Badger on October 27, 2021, 11:02:30 AM
You're reaching.
Crowds chanting freak Joe Biden are a bridge too far, but flipping off Trump's motorcade was an example of principled resistance.
To be fair I don't personally care about either. So you're not gonna get an argument from me.
Post by: Badger on October 27, 2021, 11:26:15 PM
https://twitter.com/elivalley/status/1453480618600374274?t=Hyh3_8h3TKiU30ewqplDng&s=19
Post by: Badger on October 28, 2021, 02:01:31 PM
(https://i.redd.it/ws9mt08lp7w71.jpg)
Post by: mj2sexay on October 29, 2021, 10:37:26 AM
This has to be a freaking joke.
Post by: MBGreen on October 29, 2021, 10:38:49 AM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-in-talks-to-pay-hundreds-of-millions-to-immigrant-families-separated-at-border-11635447591
This has to be a freaking joke.
solid purchase
Post by: bojanglesman on October 29, 2021, 11:03:05 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 29, 2021, 11:19:19 AM
Post by: mj2sexay on October 29, 2021, 12:10:04 PM
Each immigrant gets the choice between a Tebow or Trumaine Johnson jersey.
LOL, I gave my Darnold jersey away to Salvation Army.
Homeless vets on the streets, people struggling to make ends meet, but lets hand money over to people who violated our laws.
What a freaking absolute disaster of an idea.
Post by: delavan on October 29, 2021, 12:32:02 PM
LOL, I gave my Darnold jersey away to Salvation Army.Fair point - and American taxpayer money at that.
Homeless vets on the streets, people struggling to make ends meet, but
lets hand (money over to people who violated our laws.
What a freaking absolute disaster of an idea.
"And people gave Sonny Werblin shlt
for giving 'Alabama' me $427,000?!!"
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Namath_1965.jpg/198px-Namath_1965.jpg)
Post by: dcm1602 on October 29, 2021, 02:01:18 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-in-talks-to-pay-hundreds-of-millions-to-immigrant-families-separated-at-border-11635447591
This has to be a freaking joke.
Let's consider giving them money after they serve their prison sentences and then pay out of pocket for any expenses associated with detaining and deporting them.
But honestly if they do this, Trump is absolutely going to freaking disembowl them in the next election
"Yeah so Biden was giving Americans 625 dollars in their universal welfare checks and illegals close to half a million dollars"
Post by: mj2sexay on October 29, 2021, 02:12:55 PM
Let's consider giving them money after they serve their prison sentences and then pay out of pocket for any expenses associated with detaining and deporting them.
But honestly if they do this, Trump is absolutely going to freaking disembowl them in the next election
"Yeah so Biden was giving Americans 625 dollars in their universal welfare checks and illegals close to half a million dollars"
I really hope he doesn't run again.
But if he does, this is just handing him a talking point, as you said.
Post by: Badger on October 29, 2021, 03:47:43 PM
Post by: Badger on October 29, 2021, 03:48:53 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-in-talks-to-pay-hundreds-of-millions-to-immigrant-families-separated-at-border-11635447591Got paywalled - does it explain exactly how this would be enacted?
This has to be a freaking joke.
Post by: Johnny English on October 29, 2021, 03:49:20 PM
https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/status/1454073291656867844?t=Q2DChHp2oRYKbDlHYU4-ww&s=19
LOL
Calling the head of the world's largest landowner a communist is an interesting position.
Post by: Badger on October 31, 2021, 07:53:33 AM
LOLAnyone I don't like is communist
Calling the head of the world's largest landowner a communist is an interesting position.
https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1454653834610069507?t=AmJ7hiZIQG0KarAdwqGu6w&s=19
Post by: delavan on October 31, 2021, 05:25:01 PM
breaking: Jenn Psaki just tested positive for the rona - do as I say
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/31/jen-psaki-white-house-press-secretary-joe-biden-tests-positive-covid
Post by: delavan on October 31, 2021, 05:41:59 PM
Let's consider giving them money after they serve their prison sentences and then pay out of pocket for any expenses associated with detaining and deporting them.
"Yeah so Biden was giving Americans 625 dollars in their universal welfare checks and illegals close to half a million dollars"
Detaining? Deporting? And then what? This case was the game-changer for me:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/26/us/kate-steinle-family-cannot-sue-city/index.html
These ruthless, self-serving cocksuckers willing give away the sovereignty store under the pretense of "compassion?" Horseshit. It's about crop (vote) planting to be 'harvested' when the inevitable citizenship is conferred. "We were there for you...remember us in November."
Post by: Badger on October 31, 2021, 05:42:18 PM
Who the freak is Spicer and Kelly?
Avatars of the modern Republican id
Post by: delavan on October 31, 2021, 05:56:19 PM
Avatars of the modern Republican id
She's a dingbat cosmetologist who lazily throws around the commie swipe much like similar type lightweights who lazily trot out 'Nazi.'
Skank's a twitter troll.
Post by: Badger on October 31, 2021, 06:11:26 PM
She's a dingbat cosmetologist who lazily throws around the commie swipe much like similar type lightweights who lazily trot out 'Nazi.'How does that conflict with what I asserted?
Skank's a twitter troll.
Post by: Badger on October 31, 2021, 08:26:33 PM
If Biden tries to pronounce Antetokounmpo he might die
Post by: dcm1602 on October 31, 2021, 10:59:54 PM
Detaining? Deporting? And then what? This case was the game-changer for me:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/26/us/kate-steinle-family-cannot-sue-city/index.html
These ruthless, self-serving cocksuckers willing give away the sovereignty store under the pretense of "compassion?" Horseshit. It's about crop (vote) planting to be 'harvested' when the inevitable citizenship is conferred. "We were there for you...remember us in November."
Even worse the freaking dude wasn't convicted either.
Guess this is why any sane minded individual should stay the freak away from California
Post by: Badger on October 31, 2021, 11:27:09 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on October 31, 2021, 11:51:16 PM
The murder of an innocent person doesn't become any less tragic if the killer has the right papers.
Is it not more tragic when it easily could have been avoided?
IIRC everytime there's a shooting guns rights experts go crazy saying this all could have been avoided if we had better gun control laws (unless of course it's Alec Baldwin committing murder in which case the problem isn't guns, it's companies not hiring union employees) This is literally the exact same freaking excrement except on a different side of the political spectrum.
Post by: Badger on November 01, 2021, 06:45:22 AM
Is it not more tragic when it easily could have been avoided?Every murder could have been avoided if a single thing went differently leading up to it. This story just got hijacked because it's easy emotional fodder to whip people up against illegal immigrants.
IIRC everytime there's a shooting guns rights experts go crazy saying this all could have been avoided if we had better gun control laws (unless of course it's Alec Baldwin committing murder in which case the problem isn't guns, it's companies not hiring union employees) This is literally the exact same freaking excrement except on a different side of the political spectrum.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 01, 2021, 07:35:20 AM
Every murder could have been avoided if a single thing went differently leading up to it. This story just got hijacked because it's easy emotional fodder to whip people up against illegal immigrants.
Idk if you watched the news the last year or two. But the news cycle has been hijacked er a couple of times whenever black men have died to white police officers.
I don't know what your point is, when something happens that be politically exploited it usually is.
But this was a clear cut case of the system flat out being freaking stupid by enabling a criminal to consistently get away with crimes and thus murder this girl even though he belongs in a prison in freaking Mexico.
100% it was hijacked by some political people, but hell Covid-19, George Floyd, literally everything major that happens is.
Yet I know you don't have this same attitude whenever there's a mass shooting. It's not "oh well every murder could have been prevented if something went differently". It's usually something something guns are bad mmmkay
Post by: mj2sexay on November 01, 2021, 08:54:57 AM
FFS, was it the most appropriate thing to do? Of course not, but to want the guy fired?!
Post by: Johnny English on November 01, 2021, 09:03:18 AM
Cultist Karen/bootlickers out trying to cancel a Southwest Pilot and get them fired for ending a flight by saying "Lets Go Brandon."
FFS, was it the most appropriate thing to do? Of course not, but to want the guy fired?!
Like the squeals of outrage from right wing snowflakes wouldn't have been every bit as loud if he'd done the same thing a couple of years ago but with a Trump meme. And you'd have been entirely supportive of them, or at least quite happy to see them succeed.
If he gets fired, it's not because of his political views. It's because someone who is so mindblowingly stupid as to churn out unauthorized political rhetoric via a corporate medium shouldn't be allowed to fly a cargo plane full of rubber dog excrement out of Hong Kong (I've always wanted to say that), never mind a plane full of passengers. Southwest doesn't give a excrement about his views or anyone else's, they give a excrement about revenues and shareholder value and this kind of idiocy impacts both.
Post by: mj2sexay on November 01, 2021, 09:08:51 AM
Like the squeals of outrage from right wing snowflakes wouldn't have been every bit as loud if he'd done the same thing a couple of years ago but with a Trump meme. And you'd have been entirely supportive of them, or at least quite happy to see them succeed.
If he gets fired, it's not because of his political views. It's because someone who is so mindblowingly stupid as to churn out unauthorized political rhetoric via a corporate medium shouldn't be allowed to fly a cargo plane full of rubber dog excrement out of Hong Kong (I've always wanted to say that), never mind a plane full of passengers. Southwest doesn't give a excrement about his views or anyone else's, they give a excrement about revenues and shareholder value and this kind of idiocy impacts both.
This is total and complete bullshit JE.
For four years the "squeals of outrage" were minimal compared to the constant barrage of "principled resistance" or as I called it REEEEEEEEEsistance in terms of people saying "freak DRUMF" each and every chance they got with nary a consequence.
I know one thing, had the shoe been on the other foot I wouldn't have wanted someone to lose their livelihood over it, but that's just me I guess. Nothing a stern talking to couldn't accomplish.
Post by: Johnny English on November 01, 2021, 09:38:41 AM
This is total and complete bullshit JE.
For four years the "squeals of outrage" were minimal compared to the constant barrage of "principled resistance" or as I called it REEEEEEEEEsistance in terms of people saying "freak DRUMF" each and every chance they got with nary a consequence.
I know one thing, had the shoe been on the other foot I wouldn't have wanted someone to lose their livelihood over it, but that's just me I guess. Nothing a stern talking to couldn't accomplish.
Mmmm. I'm fairly sure that the size of the violin you'd be playing in the reverse situation would be on the very small end of the scale.
There are pilots sitting around waiting for the phone to ring right now. It takes a special level of stupid to think that this wasn't going to have any kind of repercussions. It's no different to me jumping on the company Twitter account and posting political memes, even if my bosses agree with me they're not going to let it pass when my actions reflect on the company and impact its revenue generation.
Also, the level of "REEEEEEEEsistance" from the right to a mediocre centrist trying to achieve not very much and failing to do most of that is every bit as extreme as it was to Trump, and with far less sensible justification.
Post by: mj2sexay on November 01, 2021, 09:44:19 AM
Mmmm. I'm fairly sure that the size of the violin you'd be playing in the reverse situation would be on the very small end of the scale.
There are pilots sitting around waiting for the phone to ring right now. It takes a special level of stupid to think that this wasn't going to have any kind of repercussions. It's no different to me jumping on the company Twitter account and posting political memes, even if my bosses agree with me they're not going to let it pass when my actions reflect on the company and impact its revenue generation.
Also, the level of "REEEEEEEEsistance" from the right to a mediocre centrist trying to achieve not very much and failing to do most of that is every bit as extreme as it was to Trump, and with far less sensible justification.
Biden isn't governing or spewing rhetoric that's that of a mediocre centrist. The idea that he's governing from the middle is brought to you by the same people that tried arguing that Merrick Garland was a centrist.
Let me understand this, its your contention that "Lets Go Brandon" is every bit as extreme as what we saw from 2016-2020? LOL.
Again, as I said in the OP on the subject, I'm not saying what the pilot said wasn't inappropriate under the circumstances, but to classify it as a hanging offense is incredibly harsh, and not commiserate to the offense.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 01, 2021, 02:56:26 PM
Cultist Karen/bootlickers out trying to cancel a Southwest Pilot and get them fired for ending a flight by saying "Lets Go Brandon."
FFS, was it the most appropriate thing to do? Of course not, but to want the guy fired?!
He's obviously an idiot for doing this, unless he has media aspirations and this is part of his masterplan.
Definitely shouldn't be fired over it, definitely should be suspended/punished.
Honestly though I could give a freak what happens to some random dude. I think the most important thing is whether the company ultimately makes the decision or if it's the outside mob dictating what southwest does with its employee.
I'm not a fan of angry mobs dictating demands
Post by: mj2sexay on November 01, 2021, 03:07:24 PM
Honestly though I could give a freak what happens to some random dude. I think the most important thing is whether the company ultimately makes the decision or if it's the outside mob dictating what southwest does with its employee.
I'm not a fan of angry mobs dictating demands
You and I both know, this is exactly what's happening. The worst of blue check twitter has congregated for their scalp. DefiantL's (a fantastic twitter account which is indeed a bit of an oxymoron) is putting together a nice compilation of people that have been vociferous in their freak TRUMP rhetoric that want the pilot fired.
In before "well they did that on twitter and not at work" as if a certain former NFL player who recently made an idiotic comparison between the combine and slavery didn't demonstrate on company time and dime.
Post by: Badger on November 01, 2021, 03:51:47 PM
I think the most important thing is whether the company ultimately makes the decision or if it's the outside mob dictating what southwest does with its employee.
I'm not a fan of angry mobs dictating demands
The ol' reverse kneejerk. Seems like you're ready to attribute whatever happens to him to "the mob" anyway.
For the record I don't think anything worse than a talking to is necessary here.
Post by: mj2sexay on November 01, 2021, 03:59:49 PM
For the record I don't think anything worse than a talking to is necessary here.
Nothing a stern talking to couldn't accomplish.
Love that! Every once in a while we land on the same conclusion.
Post by: Miamipuck on November 01, 2021, 04:00:49 PM
For the record I don't think anything worse than a talking to is necessary here.
This
Post by: Johnny English on November 01, 2021, 07:14:27 PM
You and I both know, this is exactly what's happening. The worst of blue check twitter has congregated for their scalp. DefiantL's (a fantastic twitter account which is indeed a bit of an oxymoron) is putting together a nice compilation of people that have been vociferous in their freak TRUMP rhetoric that want the pilot fired.
In before "well they did that on twitter and not at work" as if a certain former NFL player who recently made an idiotic comparison between the combine and slavery didn't demonstrate on company time and dime.
It's funny that you love to blame "blue check Twitter" for excrement when it's proven beyond all doubt that Twitter leans heavily to the right.
For the record, I don't give a freak whether this guy gets fired, told off, or completely ignored. In principle continuing to employ pilots so dumb that they think the PA of a commercial aircraft is an appropriate place for political memes makes me less likely to fly with that airline, in reality I'm going to book a flight with them without a second thought if they're $20 cheaper than the other guys.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 01, 2021, 07:57:42 PM
The ol' reverse kneejerk. Seems like you're ready to attribute whatever happens to him to "the mob" anyway.
For the record I don't think anything worse than a talking to is necessary here.
Is that not how things work these days?
Plus from a business standpoint it makes sense.
If you're a multi billion dollar corporate monster do you really give a freak about a single employee vs your entity's image?
People get thrown under the bus all of the time. Though the guy obviously has to take some personal accountability for his actions
Post by: dcm1602 on November 01, 2021, 08:01:17 PM
It's funny that you love to blame "blue check Twitter" for excrement when it's proven beyond all doubt that Twitter leans heavily to the right.
For the record, I don't give a freak whether this guy gets fired, told off, or completely ignored. In principle continuing to employ pilots so dumb that they think the PA of a commercial aircraft is an appropriate place for political memes makes me less likely to fly with that airline, in reality I'm going to book a flight with them without a second thought if they're $20 cheaper than the other guys.
Select biases sure. But to say Twitter is proven beyond all doubt that it leaves heavily to the right is kind of ridiculous, especially without defining what you mean by that.
I know the excrement about their algorithms have been published, (and I'm not interested in researching such a subject so I'll give you benefit of the doubt). But Twitter is far more than corporate algorithms. Social media is heavily influenced the end user, which tends to be young people, who do not tend to lean heavily to the right.
Post by: Johnny English on November 01, 2021, 08:04:31 PM
Select biases sure. But to say Twitter is proven beyond all doubt that it leaves heavily to the right is kind of ridiculous, especially without defining what you mean by that.
I know the excrement about their algorithms have been published, (and I'm not interested in researching such a subject so I'll give you benefit of the doubt). But Twitter is far more than corporate algorithms. Social media is heavily influenced the end user, which tends to be young people, who do not tend to lean heavily to the right.
You could just say that you don't really understand technology and save yourself the effort.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 01, 2021, 09:12:18 PM
You could just say that you don't really understand technology and save yourself the effort.
I'm talking about the end user being as if not more important than the technology
Post by: Johnny English on November 01, 2021, 09:15:55 PM
I'm talking about the end user being as if not more important than the technology
Like I said.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 01, 2021, 10:53:46 PM
Like I said.
Maybe you don't understand how numbers work
(https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2020/10/PDL_10.15.20_twitter.party-00-0.png?w=630)
92% of all tweets are made by 69% democrats
But the algorithms!
Post by: Badger on November 02, 2021, 06:47:30 AM
https://www.businessinsider.com/student-debt-cancellation-proof-of-april-memo-biden-cardona-education-2021-10
https://www.businessinsider.com/read-the-redacted-student-debt-cancellation-memo-biden-education-department-2021-11
Post by: mj2sexay on November 02, 2021, 08:11:21 AM
It's funny that you love to blame "blue check Twitter" for excrement when it's proven beyond all doubt that Twitter leans heavily to the right.
Came in here to counter this before I saw DCM do a good job on that front.
in reality I'm going to book a flight with them without a second thought if they're $20 cheaper than the other guys.
This is very sensible and I cannot possibly disagree so if we could steer the conversation now to Biden shitting his pants when he met the Pope. LOL.
Post by: Johnny English on November 02, 2021, 08:47:07 AM
Maybe you don't understand how numbers work
(https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2020/10/PDL_10.15.20_twitter.party-00-0.png?w=630)
92% of all tweets are made by 69% democrats
But the algorithms!
I understand fine how numbers work. I also understand how numbers taken out of context are irrelevant.
If I, with my 38 followers, spend all day doing nothing except churning out left wing talking points, I will be able to become part of that 10%. But if no one is a) reading them or b) retweeting them, then all I'm doing is shouting into the abyss.
If the software is specifically configured to promote a specific voice or set of voices, which we know it is, then the volume of content produced by those voices relative to their counterparts is secondary, because in the end the only thing that matters is how many eyes each voice reaches.
Post by: MBGreen on November 02, 2021, 08:53:20 AM
I understand fine how numbers work. I also understand how numbers taken out of context are irrelevant.
If I, with my 38 followers, spend all day doing nothing except churning out left wing talking points, I will be able to become part of that 10%. But if no one is a) reading them or b) retweeting them, then all I'm doing is shouting into the abyss.
If the software is specifically configured to promote a specific voice or set of voices, which we know it is, then the volume of content produced by those voices relative to their counterparts is secondary, because in the end the only thing that matters is how many eyes each voice reaches.
37 followers...my account got banned.
Post by: Johnny English on November 02, 2021, 09:04:54 AM
37 followers...my account got banned.
I was pulling a number out of thin air, I just checked and I've got 98. No idea why, I never actually tweet anything - I keep the account purely to harangue customer service departments of companies who have wronged me.
Post by: mj2sexay on November 02, 2021, 09:11:35 AM
I keep the account purely to harangue customer service departments of companies who have wronged me.
Pretty much also the purpose of my twitter account. EA gets the derriere end of my ire most of the time.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 02, 2021, 11:39:56 AM
I understand fine how numbers work. I also understand how numbers taken out of context are irrelevant.
If I, with my 38 followers, spend all day doing nothing except churning out left wing talking points, I will be able to become part of that 10%. But if no one is a) reading them or b) retweeting them, then all I'm doing is shouting into the abyss.
If the software is specifically configured to promote a specific voice or set of voices, which we know it is, then the volume of content produced by those voices relative to their counterparts is secondary, because in the end the only thing that matters is how many eyes each voice reaches.
If the content is effectively 70% one sided by default the software would have to be insanely biased in order to make the other 26% of vociss louder.
Fortunately Twitter has been transparent enough to post its actual data.
In the most extreme example, which happens to be Canada. Twitters algorithm tends to amplify right wing content by something like 160% vs 50% on the left.
Doing some math 26% times 260% comes out to 67.6 vs left wing content which is 70% amplified by 150% leaving you at 105 (these aren't percentages just weighted distribution ratios)
In other words even at the extreme outlier of bias in Canada you still have about 50% more left wing tweets than right wing tweets.
In every other country in the world left wing tweets still outweigh right ring tweets by over 2:1 and in most countries it ends up being close to 3:1, which is close to its inherent user distribution.
So to sum, to call Twitter unquestionably conservative is completely cracked out
Post by: Badger on November 02, 2021, 11:42:09 AM
If the content is effectively 70% one sided by default the software would have to be insanely biased in order to make the other 26% of vociss louder.Amplification is more important than volume when it comes to platforming. JE already pointed that out.
Fortunately Twitter has been transparent enough to post its actual data.
In the most extreme example, which happens to be Canada. Twitters algorithm tends to amplify right wing content by something like 160% vs 50% on the left.
Doing some math 26% times 260% comes out to 67.6 vs left wing content which is 70% amplified by 150% leaving you at 105 (these aren't percentages just weighted distribution ratios)
In other words even at the extreme outlier of bias in Canada you still have about 50% more left wing tweets than right wing tweets.
In every other country in the world left wing tweets still outweigh right ring tweets by over 2:1 and in most countries it ends up being close to 3:1, which is close to its inherent user distribution.
So to sum, to call Twitter unquestionably conservative is completely cracked out
Post by: dcm1602 on November 02, 2021, 11:47:41 AM
Amplification is more important than volume when it comes to platforming. JE already pointed that out.
Amplification is multiplication of volume.
Therefore amplification is just as important as volume, because that's how math works.
And when your volume is roughly 3:1 baseline, you'd need a grossly aggregious amplification formula to make the 1 bigger than the 3, which never happens.
I Will 100% take Twitter at their word that their amplification formula is broken and biased, I'm not arguing that. I'm suggesting that even after accounting for it, it's still ridiculously and grossly liberal.
Per their published data Canada is the only country where the amplification bias appears extreme. In other countries its statistically relevant, but not even putting a dent (ie in the US the bias is extremely minor, and let's be honest the US is probably more important to Twitter when it comes to politics then the rest of the entire world combined)
Post by: Badger on November 02, 2021, 12:03:47 PM
Post by: Johnny English on November 02, 2021, 12:14:07 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on November 02, 2021, 12:53:31 PM
(https://memegenerator.net/img/images/2745079.jpg)
Post by: Badger on November 02, 2021, 01:26:40 PM
Post by: delavan on November 02, 2021, 01:32:08 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211102/dbc0b9637378650763622f03d77f748e.jpg)A couple of questions (left-to-right): who's the bald guy (sort of looks familiar)? Sword-wielding Trump's supposedly Michael the archangel banishing Joe Biden but who's the naked brunette with Joe? That can't be Pelosi (*)(*). Lastly, who's the blonde in the black dress? thanks
Post by: Johnny English on November 02, 2021, 01:35:41 PM
Sword-wielding Trump's supposedly Michael the archangel banishing Joe Biden but who's the naked brunette with Joe? That can't be Pelosi (*)(*).
I think it's supposed to be Kamala.
Post by: MBGreen on November 02, 2021, 01:40:54 PM
Post by: Johnny English on November 02, 2021, 01:43:02 PM
JE should hang that up in his garage
Mrs English would prefer the Pirelli Calendar.
Post by: MBGreen on November 02, 2021, 01:47:03 PM
Mrs English would prefer the Pirelli Calendar.
Mrs.English should have zero jurisdiction in the garage, and if she somehow does, you're doing it wrong.
Post by: Johnny English on November 02, 2021, 01:51:42 PM
Mrs.English should have zero jurisdiction in the garage, and if she somehow does, you're doing it wrong.
Mrs English might object if I posted a calendar of nekkid chicks anywhere in the house, garage included, but she would still prefer it to that.
Also, we both have jurisdiction throughout the house and in all rooms, because we both own the house and we don't need to have our own separate rooms like teenagers.
Post by: MBGreen on November 02, 2021, 01:55:22 PM
Mrs English might object if I posted a calendar of nekkid chicks anywhere in the house, garage included, but she would still prefer it to that.
Also, we both have jurisdiction throughout the house and in all rooms, because we both own the house and we don't need to have our own separate rooms like teenagers.
hoo-ha
Post by: mj2sexay on November 02, 2021, 02:11:29 PM
Also, we both have jurisdiction throughout the house and in all rooms, because we both own the house and we don't need to have our own separate rooms like teenagers.
I have willingly ceded control to all areas of the house besides the basement, the actual master bed we sleep in, and garage, if only because the wife is much better at tasteful decor when it comes to the kitchen, living room etc,
Post by: Johnny English on November 02, 2021, 02:20:36 PM
I have willingly ceded control to all areas of the house besides the basement, the actual master bed we sleep in, and garage, if only because the wife is much better at tasteful decor when it comes to the kitchen, living room etc,
I'm fairly similar. I just hate this whole "man cave" bullshit, as if I'm somehow being denied the opportunity to have my personality in any other room and need to have a space that's all my own like a 15 year old hoarding his collection of pornos and heavy metal albums.
Post by: MBGreen on November 02, 2021, 02:24:38 PM
I'm fairly similar. I just hate this whole "man cave" bullshit, as if I'm somehow being denied the opportunity to have my personality in any other room and need to have a space that's all my own like a 15 year old hoarding his collection of pornos and heavy metal albums.
You obviously don't understand how awesome having a man cave really is....and you might be a cuck.
I have willingly ceded control to all areas of the house besides the basement, the actual master bed we sleep in, and garage, if only because the wife is much better at tasteful decor when it comes to the kitchen, living room etc,
this for me as well....basement and garage are mine, she can have the rest. Easy Peasey.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 02, 2021, 02:41:43 PM
I'm fairly similar. I just hate this whole "man cave" bullshit, as if I'm somehow being denied the opportunity to have my personality in any other room and need to have a space that's all my own like a 15 year old hoarding his collection of pornos and heavy metal albums.
The man cave thing is overblown (to a degree) but on the flip side I feel like 9/10 times a room is "managed" by a woman practicalness completely goes out the window in the sake of prettiness.
It's like an instant rage for me going into a den/living room where someone has the world's most obnoxiously uncomfortable freaking couch because some chick thought it looks best.
The point of a couch is to freaking sit on it, comfort should be it's priority
Post by: bojanglesman on November 02, 2021, 02:43:31 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on November 02, 2021, 02:43:55 PM
Post by: Johnny English on November 02, 2021, 02:47:12 PM
You obviously don't understand how awesome having a man cave really is....and you might be a cuck.
No dude, you misunderstand me. I'm fully aware of how enjoyable it is to have a home that's tailored to one's own tastes:
(https://i.imgur.com/URo990v.jpg)
I just find the term "man cave" to be a bit pathetic. A man cave smells of feet and stale pizza and desperation.
If you feel the need to separate your shared home into your rooms and theirs, you might be an underdeveloped teenager.
Post by: bojanglesman on November 02, 2021, 02:49:20 PM
No dude, you misunderstand me. I'm fully aware of how enjoyable it is to have a home that's tailored to one's own tastes:
(https://i.imgur.com/URo990v.jpg)
I just find the term "man cave" to be a bit pathetic. A man cave smells of feet and stale pizza and desperation.
If you feel the need to separate your shared home into your rooms and theirs, you might be an underdeveloped teenager.
I'm thinking of inventing shitter caves.
Post by: Johnny English on November 02, 2021, 02:51:17 PM
I'm thinking of inventing shitter caves.
I can actually watch the TV in that picture from the shitter.
Post by: MBGreen on November 02, 2021, 02:56:36 PM
I don't have anything to myself in my house except the guest room bathroom. I take my dumps in peace there because it's away from everything else. I think the rest of the family is scared to trek anywhere near there.
I read this post while Sarah McLachlan played in my head.
Post by: MBGreen on November 02, 2021, 02:59:16 PM
No dude, you misunderstand me. I'm fully aware of how enjoyable it is to have a home that's tailored to one's own tastes:
(https://i.imgur.com/URo990v.jpg)
I just find the term "man cave" to be a bit pathetic. A man cave smells of feet and stale pizza and desperation.
If you feel the need to separate your shared home into your rooms and theirs, you might be an underdeveloped teenager.
it's not pathetic, and your assertion (as usual) is wrong. My wife loves the man cave....in fact...we call it the Hangar because it's a badass shrine to the New York Jets. No stale pizza smell or feet bullshit. You can keep that garbage assessment in Dumpwater, ON or wherever it is you call home now.
Post by: bojanglesman on November 02, 2021, 03:06:01 PM
I read this post while Sarah McLachlan played in my head.
It could be worse. I am at peace in there.
Post by: MBGreen on November 02, 2021, 03:12:01 PM
It could be worse. I am at peace in there.
(https://cdn.cms.prod.nypr.digital/images/php9SiczMAM.2e16d0ba.fill-661x496.jpg)
Post by: bojanglesman on November 02, 2021, 03:34:32 PM
Post by: MBGreen on November 02, 2021, 03:45:52 PM
I've had my dog for a week now. She's pretty clingy to me, but when I sit down on the crapper, she looks at me and walks away. She knows.
this is what your bathroom needs:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211102/dbc0b9637378650763622f03d77f748e.jpg)
Post by: delavan on November 02, 2021, 06:57:22 PM
I think it's supposed to be Kamala.
But of course-thx. Any idea who the bald guy and the black dress blonde are?
Post by: dcm1602 on November 08, 2021, 08:48:08 PM
This freaking clown can't take global warming seriously, spending the whole summit farting and sleeping during speeches
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 08, 2021, 09:02:26 PM
Post by: Johnny English on November 08, 2021, 09:07:33 PM
Post by: delavan on November 09, 2021, 12:33:32 AM
Farting in front of the royal family should be a goal for every American.
Spitting e.g. on Cromwell's burial stone in Westminster Abby yes but farting? That's cruel.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/Newton_Bull_farts_G3.jpg/184px-Newton_Bull_farts_G3.jpg)
Post by: mj2sexay on November 11, 2021, 01:23:55 PM
Wait...considering who the VP is nevermind, I guess we'll have to stomach is senile derriere for another three years.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 11, 2021, 04:51:02 PM
The great negro at the time!?!?! Will someone please put this stupid old codger out to freaking pasture.
Wait...considering who the VP is nevermind, I guess we'll have to stomach is senile derriere for another three years.
You must be as senile as Joe if you think he's going to last 3 more years
When the left starts coming after Joe to step down will the right defend him? Surely he has to be better than the next on deck
Post by: mj2sexay on November 11, 2021, 10:03:31 PM
You must be as senile as Joe if you think he's going to last 3 more years
When the left starts coming after Joe to step down will the right defend him? Surely he has to be better than the next on deck
I'm all about impeaching him twice but not removing him once the House shifts back to the GOP in 2022.
Can't voluntarily just hand our french vp (lol) the job.
Post by: delavan on November 12, 2021, 05:49:07 PM
You must be as senile as Joe if you think he's going to last 3 more years
When the left starts coming after Joe to step down will the right defend him? Surely he has to be better than the next on deck
And yet who's still kicking? Little Red Corvette Prince or robust Joe?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Biden_%22ImaVetteGuy%22_tweet.jpg/467px-Biden_%22ImaVetteGuy%22_tweet.jpg)
Post by: Badger on November 15, 2021, 07:45:55 AM
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1460240238119473156?t=pgG7fKNWxBR0oa_PIRrdFw&s=19
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 15, 2021, 09:17:22 AM
Post by: Badger on November 15, 2021, 12:23:16 PM
I thought people liked Chuck Taylors.I don't but I never held it against her.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 18, 2021, 07:39:54 AM
Post by: Badger on November 18, 2021, 10:42:12 AM
https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1461083141632937995?s=21Gottem
https://twitter.com/JillSearsSDnews/status/1461102328191332357?t=P-wN_JTLwnhJpfnm_2z1TQ&s=19
Post by: Badger on November 18, 2021, 11:39:22 AM
I saw this, so you have to see it too.
Post by: Badger on November 19, 2021, 09:53:53 AM
https://twitter.com/DaniellaMicaela/status/1461702617789313025?t=IyTe_laaPYoKDe7kq3xBGA&s=19
Post by: delavan on November 19, 2021, 10:46:19 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 29, 2021, 10:56:29 AM
Post by: reuben on November 29, 2021, 11:12:52 AM
https://twitter.com/telegraphworld/status/1465262818266075156?s=21
Quote
a potential nuclear option that could see Kamala Harris nominated to the Supreme Court
(https://i.imgur.com/xBMbZq1.gif)
Post by: Badger on November 29, 2021, 12:10:46 PM
I'm absolutely here to observe khive meltdown if she's "passed over."
Post by: bojanglesman on November 29, 2021, 02:59:30 PM
Would be great to see a contested primary.
I no longer will tell myself who is and isn't electable. A little bit of time can really polish some turds somehow. These shitty people manage to hang around and get votes because the others are even shittier.
Post by: Badger on November 29, 2021, 10:56:21 PM
Post by: delavan on November 30, 2021, 09:11:03 AM
Biden will just run again and push her in the background just like now.
Would be great to see a contested primary.
I no longer will tell myself who is and isn't electable. A little bit of time can really polish some turds somehow. These shitty people manage to hang around and get votes because the others are even shittier.
^ Precisely. It's about "power to the
Post by: bojanglesman on November 30, 2021, 10:11:14 AM
^ Precisely. It's about "power to thepeopleparty" no matter what even if in this case Joe by 2024 will be a "Weekend At Bernie's" shell of his already confused self. Just watch: he'll get up there, forget that he's no longer a Fighting' Blue Hen (Univ. of Del.) frat boy and lead off with a dick joke....media will cover for him, Jenn Psaki 2.0 will put it to rest and then it's game on vs. whomever the GOP's putting up. Meet the new boss....same as the old boss.
Eh, he's old. I don't think he has dementia, he's just old. I'd definitely vote for him if he led with a dick joke though.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 30, 2021, 10:52:40 AM
Eh, he's old. I don't think he has dementia, he's just old. I'd definitely vote for him if he led with a dick joke though.
Okay let's not call it dementia but new onset accelerated cognitive decline.
Post by: bojanglesman on November 30, 2021, 12:12:07 PM
Okay let's not call it dementia but new onset accelerated cognitive decline.
He's almost 80.
Post by: Badger on November 30, 2021, 12:17:18 PM
Okay let's not call it dementia but new onset accelerated cognitive decline.He's got the brainworms
Post by: dcm1602 on November 30, 2021, 12:23:10 PM
He's almost 80.
I don't care. He's the most important person on the planet, he can't use his age as an excuse. This is why you don't elect freaking 80 year olds. How many 80 year old CEOs do you see out there?
Post by: bojanglesman on November 30, 2021, 12:27:02 PM
I don't care. He's the most important person on the planet, he can't use his age as an excuse. This is why you don't elect freaking 80 year olds. How many 80 year old CEOs do you see out there?I agree with you except saying he has dementia. And the fact that the other option was another old guy that's a psychotic narcissistic buffoon.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 30, 2021, 12:32:11 PM
I agree with you except saying he has dementia. And the fact that the other option was another old guy that's a psychotic narcissistic buffoon.
But I already agreed with you that we shouldn't call it dementia.
And Trump being Trump has no impact on Bidens cognitive state.
We've all seen how much the presidency aged guys like Obama and Bush (yeah it's over 8 years)
But I think having that level of stress and responsibility on someone who depends on depends takes it to another level.
Not a partisan thing, I don't think there should ever be a freaking president in his 80s again. There's a reason why social security kicks in in the 60s. Because your time is over.
Having some freaking dinosaur in his 80s is ridiculous
The man was approaching freaking 60 when the internet came out. What the freak is that excrement
Post by: delavan on November 30, 2021, 02:28:46 PM
Quote from: bojanglesman
Eh, he's old. I don't think he has dementia, he's just old. I'd definitely vote for him if he led with a dick joke though.
Quote from: dcm1602
Okay let's not call it dementia but new onset accelerated cognitive decline.
Quote from: bojanglesman
He's almost 80
Quote from: Badger
He's got the rainworms^ milk-shooting-out-my-schnout-funny
Quote from: dcm1602
I don't care. He's the most important person on the planet, he can't use his age as an excuse. This is why you don't elect freaking 80 year olds. How many 80 year old CEOs do you see out there?
Quote from: bojanglesman
I agree with you except saying he has dementia. And the fact that the other option was another old guy that's a psychotic narcissistic buffoon.
Quote from: dcm1602
But I already agreed with you that we shouldn't call it dementia.Joe's staring at 80 candles the next time Dr. Jill tells him to blow. Prez Octoboy.
And Trump being Trump has no impact on Bidens cognitive state.
We've all seen how much the presidency aged guys like Obama and Bush (yeah it's over 8 years)
But I think having that level of stress and responsibility on someone who depends on depends takes it to another level.
Not a partisan thing, I don't think there should ever be a freaking president in his 80s again. There's a reason why social security kicks in in the 60s. Because your time is over.
Having some freaking dinosaur in his 80s is ridiculous
The man was approaching freaking 60 when the internet came out. What the freak is that excrement
Myself, I'm staring at 70 candles (dob '52) my next time round, i.e. septuagenariandelavan if you will (and why half the current pop culture jokes here escape me...).
It's all good. No need wasting time on the "he's lost his marbles!..he's old but yet 'tilt' material!" back-and-forths (as entertaining as the above exchange was--and you all rule btw). Again imho, worse comes to worse, be it 'the swamp' or 'the man behind the curtain' or 'the powers that be' there will always be some Alexander Haig "I'm in charge!" type to take the wheel....this country's not going to go to hell in a hand basket altogether should nature come calling for Joe.
Post by: Badger on November 30, 2021, 02:49:20 PM
I agree with you except saying he has dementia. And the fact that the other option was another old guy that's a psychotic narcissistic buffoon.Worth mentioning the concerted effort inside the Democrats to consolidate support specifically behind Biden for the nomination instead of/in spite of better candidates. They'd rather march segregation grandpa out there than have their donors pay slightly higher taxes.
Post by: bojanglesman on November 30, 2021, 03:32:03 PM
Worth mentioning the concerted effort inside the Democrats to consolidate support specifically behind Biden for the nomination instead of/in spite of better candidates. They'd rather march segregation grandpa out there than have their donors pay slightly higher taxes.No argument here.
Post by: delavan on November 30, 2021, 03:46:07 PM
Post by: Johnny English on November 30, 2021, 09:31:14 PM
Worth mentioning the concerted effort inside the Democrats to consolidate support specifically behind Biden for the nomination instead of/in spite of better candidates. They'd rather march segregation grandpa out there than have their donors pay slightly higher taxes.
Age is not an issue for you though, is it?
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 30, 2021, 09:53:15 PM
Worth mentioning the concerted effort inside the Democrats to consolidate support specifically behind Biden for the nomination instead of/in spite of better candidates. They'd rather march segregation grandpa out there than have their donors pay slightly higher taxes.
It's typically not a good sign for the party if their incumbent president is primaried.
Post by: Badger on November 30, 2021, 10:16:47 PM
It's typically not a good sign for the party if their incumbent president is primaried.I meant in March 2020.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 30, 2021, 10:45:58 PM
It's typically not a good sign for the party if their incumbent president is primaried.
I imagine it's also not typically a good sign for a party if their candidate has to start using a walker when he's going to rallies.
Post by: delavan on December 01, 2021, 10:37:44 PM
Post by: Badger on December 02, 2021, 11:02:12 AM
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1466437754015911951?t=GZvlGZ8Qr-UiRlbDxmZoKQ&s=19
Post by: bojanglesman on December 02, 2021, 11:21:32 AM
The lesser evil
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1466437754015911951?t=GZvlGZ8Qr-UiRlbDxmZoKQ&s=19
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/02/politics/biden-administration-restart-remain-in-mexico/index.html
It was court ordered.
Quote
The program, which forces non-Mexican migrants to stay in Mexico until their immigration court dates in the US, was suspended at the beginning of President Joe Biden's term and formally terminated months later.
But in August, a federal judge in Texas said the Biden administration had violated federal law in how it had gone about unwinding the program and required that it be restored.
Administration officials on Thursday stressed that they were only reimplementing the program, formally called "Migrant Protection Protocols," because of the court order.
Post by: Johnny English on December 02, 2021, 12:06:12 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/02/politics/biden-administration-restart-remain-in-mexico/index.html
It was court ordered.
But Bernie would never
Post by: Badger on December 02, 2021, 12:10:42 PM
But Bernie would never be as inactive on the issue as Biden has been
Correct
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 02, 2021, 12:14:31 PM
But Bernie would never be president because the actual progressive voting base isn't large enough to carry an election and he does not appeal to a large enough portion of non-progressives.
Correct
Post by: Badger on December 02, 2021, 12:18:32 PM
CorrectWould be worth finding out for real instead of self-defeating any possibility of making things better.
Post by: delavan on December 02, 2021, 04:16:45 PM
Post by: delavan on December 02, 2021, 05:13:45 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 02, 2021, 05:27:27 PM
He's almost 80.
So why is he even considered as a candidate for President?
I can’t understand why this country insists on electing senile old farts in the middle stages of physical and mental breakdown
Post by: Badger on December 02, 2021, 06:34:56 PM
The answer's sitting right under Joe's nose. Have his VP tackle the border issue."Do not come."
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 02, 2021, 09:26:52 PM
"Do not come."
Me 20 minutes into bringing home my first Tinder date once DC reopened.
Post by: dcm1602 on December 02, 2021, 11:11:49 PM
So why is he even considered as a candidate for President?
I can’t understand why this country insists on electing senile old farts in the middle stages of physical and mental breakdown
Dudes passed the middle stages, more like he's from the middle ages
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 02, 2021, 11:23:57 PM
Post by: delavan on December 03, 2021, 04:28:07 PM
https://twitter.com/dccc/status/1466494036630544394
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 03, 2021, 04:36:34 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on December 03, 2021, 06:15:41 PM
Thank you Beloved Father
https://twitter.com/dccc/status/1466494036630544394
I had to triple check that that wasn't some satire posting.
It wasn't
Post by: Johnny English on December 03, 2021, 07:39:18 PM
I had to triple check that that wasn't some satire posting.
It wasn't
Given a perennial scare story of any party remotely to the left of hardcore fascist is "THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY'LL DO TO THE GAS PRICES", I'm willing to give this a bit of leeway for potential satire.
Post by: Badger on December 07, 2021, 07:41:15 AM
Focus groups found that "blood for the blood god" tested extremely well among swing voters
Post by: delavan on December 12, 2021, 04:48:21 PM
https://twitter.com/TimJGraham/status/1469686290610331654
Post by: delavan on December 12, 2021, 04:58:57 PM
https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1469321946114445312
Post by: Badger on December 12, 2021, 06:06:52 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on December 12, 2021, 06:21:08 PM
Biden really loves eulogizing Republicans
Considering his advanced age and that he ain't looking so much like a two term president.
He might be hoping for a little reciprocation.
Plus this is his delusion of being a bipartisan president
Post by: Badger on December 12, 2021, 06:25:49 PM
Considering his advanced age and that he ain't looking so much like a two term president.He, far more egregiously, eulogized Strom Thurmond. That's mainly what I was drawing a line to.
He might be hoping for a little reciprocation.
Plus this is his delusion of being a bipartisan president
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 14, 2021, 10:38:30 AM
What a fraud
I can’t believe this happened! /S
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 14, 2021, 11:00:22 AM
Can’t wait for the Dems strategy for the next election to be “orange man/party bad”.v2
Post by: Badger on December 14, 2021, 11:24:21 AM
https://twitter.com/the_acumen/status/1470749830775336962?s=21In b4 JE blames us for personally causing the Dems to lose Congress
Can’t wait for the Dems strategy for the next election to be “orange man/party bad”.v2
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Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 14, 2021, 10:12:29 PM
Post by: Badger on December 15, 2021, 02:24:59 PM
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1471155606069334018?t=JyHZdDzZwFJmbcWKg4lgug&s=19
Post by: bojanglesman on December 15, 2021, 04:26:00 PM
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1471155606069334018?t=JyHZdDzZwFJmbcWKg4lgug&s=19
Good Lord.
Post by: Johnny English on December 15, 2021, 05:38:30 PM
Post by: Badger on December 15, 2021, 05:45:30 PM
Perhaps I'm missing something here, but isn't encouraging people to move to EVs a good thing?What's the biggest barrier to people buying electric cars?
Hint: it's not the lack of charging stations
Post by: Johnny English on December 15, 2021, 06:17:44 PM
What's the biggest barrier to people buying electric cars?
Hint: it's not the lack of charging stations
OK, that's fair. But I think the (badly expressed) point there is that the people already buying $50K trucks and SUVs, and there are a freaking ton of them, are primarily put off from buying EVs because of the range. Which is true, and if you want to start working towards emissions targets while also driving a very significant US industry, then that's a reasonable position.
Your point, I think, is that an awful lot of other people are worrying about how they put food on the table and how they make rent this month and not how they buy a new truck or SUV, and that's very reasonable. But as you have pointed out many times before a government's focus on one thing doesn't mean that it shouldn't also be able to focus on another at the same time given their access to theoretically unlimited funding, and so the two things don't really relate.
The criticism isn't about EV infrastructure, which is a good thing, but about a lack of action on other issues.
Post by: bojanglesman on December 15, 2021, 06:57:02 PM
Or
"When we ask people staying at the Four Seasons or the Ritz Carlton what their biggest barrier to buying an electric car is...."
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 15, 2021, 08:23:28 PM
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1471155606069334018?t=JyHZdDzZwFJmbcWKg4lgug&s=19
I “double-taked” at this tweet
Surely you can’t be this out of touch
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 15, 2021, 08:24:54 PM
OK, that's fair. But I think the (badly expressed) point there is that the people already buying $50K trucks and SUVs, and there are a freaking ton of them, are primarily put off from buying EVs because of the range. Which is true, and if you want to start working towards emissions targets while also driving a very significant US industry, then that's a reasonable position.
Your point, I think, is that an awful lot of other people are worrying about how they put food on the table and how they make rent this month and not how they buy a new truck or SUV, and that's very reasonable. But as you have pointed out many times before a government's focus on one thing doesn't mean that it shouldn't also be able to focus on another at the same time given their access to theoretically unlimited funding, and so the two things don't really relate.
The criticism isn't about EV infrastructure, which is a good thing, but about a lack of action on other issues.
The people that are buying trucks and SUVs are not the same people that care about the environment
Post by: Johnny English on December 15, 2021, 08:37:48 PM
The people that are buying trucks and SUVs are not the same people that care about the environment
I buy trucks and SUVs and I care about the environment.
More relevantly, EVs are better all round than ICE. They're cheaper to run, much faster, and do more. Bubba rolling coal in his '93 Ram Crew Cab with the blown Cummins isn't interested, but a massive amount of suburban truck and SUV owners will jump at the chance to buy one. Ford's reservation list for the F150 Lightning already accounts for the next 4 years of production, and dealers can't put an EV on the forecourt because it's sold while it's still on the truck. Demand is huge and the US automobile industry is rapidly tooling up production lines to try and meet demand.
So yeah. It's really freaking important even if you don't care about the environment.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 16, 2021, 11:52:00 AM
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Post by: mj2sexay on December 16, 2021, 01:23:18 PM
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Based.
Post by: Badger on December 18, 2021, 09:28:14 AM
Life is meaningless
Post by: Badger on December 18, 2021, 10:08:54 AM
Post by: Badger on December 20, 2021, 06:28:49 PM
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1473085292731056129?t=oGS30IXAPXaE0CRYJmFvBQ&s=19
Post by: delavan on December 20, 2021, 10:25:00 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 20, 2021, 11:17:06 PM
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1473048795697012738
Should have named him Brandon just to freak with people.
Post by: Badger on December 23, 2021, 01:29:45 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 28, 2021, 01:07:27 PM
This is actually pretty spot on
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 29, 2021, 07:25:31 AM
Post by: delavan on December 29, 2021, 07:45:32 PM
https://twitter.com/wyattduncan/status/1475573760195383296?s=21
This is actually pretty spot on
Joe recruiting battling rappers was 99% funnier than trump cynically hosting Kim Kalipygian at 1600 Penn Av
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxAJl_NF2Dg
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 30, 2021, 07:12:29 PM
Post by: Badger on December 30, 2021, 07:19:48 PM
https://twitter.com/mygfreal/status/1476369298184572930?s=21Absolutely murdered by words.
Post by: Badger on December 31, 2021, 12:58:12 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 31, 2021, 06:50:58 AM
Post by: delavan on December 31, 2021, 12:57:39 PM
Again, really wished he named his new puppy Brandon. Huge missed opportunity.
Thinking about this, that would've been 'shot with their own gun' funny.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 06, 2022, 06:58:42 PM
Ok
Post by: delavan on January 06, 2022, 09:33:25 PM
https://twitter.com/usatoday/status/1479093789197324292?s=21
Ok
Spot on equivalency Madam Willie Brown Pizza and while you're at it whadda ya think?......November 22, 1963 ring a bell??...
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Moorman_photo_of_JFK_assassination.jpg/640px-Moorman_photo_of_JFK_assassination.jpg)
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coverup in 3...2....
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....1....
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Dec. 7, 1941
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Sept. 11, 2001
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Jan. 6, 2021
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Never forget Kammy:
Jan 12, 1969..
Post by: mj2sexay on January 06, 2022, 09:35:03 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 13, 2022, 11:27:22 AM
Post by: delavan on January 19, 2022, 05:24:04 PM
CBS News - Live Updates: Biden takes defiant tone in press conference marking first year in office and says he hadn't "overpromised"
Post by: Badger on January 19, 2022, 06:07:12 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/joe-biden-press-conference-2022-01-19/To be fair he has no recollection of his campaign.
CBS News - Live Updates: Biden takes defiant tone in press conference marking first year in office and says he hadn't "overpromised"
Post by: delavan on January 19, 2022, 06:27:35 PM
To be fair he has no recollection of his campaign.that's twue : )
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxT_0btLHJQ
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 27, 2022, 01:21:10 PM
Wtf is this SOB talking about
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 27, 2022, 01:41:18 PM
Do something, bro
Post by: Badger on January 27, 2022, 01:53:45 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on January 27, 2022, 05:17:01 PM
https://twitter.com/potus/status/1486708257968336896?s=21
Wtf is this SOB talking about
He knows he can pretty much say or tweet whatever he wants and the upside is fat piece of excrement propagandists like Yamiche Alcindor making attempts to bolster whatever the content is and at worst it's largely ignored. His mission was accomplished, the orange man slain.
Post by: dcm1602 on January 27, 2022, 06:54:29 PM
https://twitter.com/potus/status/1486708257968336896?s=21
Wtf is this SOB talking about
They also called Afghanistan one of the greatest success stories of all time.
Post by: dcm1602 on January 27, 2022, 06:56:08 PM
https://twitter.com/potus/status/1486111890547908612?s=21
Do something, bro
How the freak has this dude not gotten Omnicron yet
Post by: delavan on January 27, 2022, 08:24:34 PM
How the freak has this dude not gotten Omnicron yet
Same way a weasel
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can turn this
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into this
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/United_States_one_dollar_bill%2C_obverse.jpg/320px-United_States_one_dollar_bill%2C_obverse.jpg)
good genes
.
Post by: Badger on January 28, 2022, 08:33:56 AM
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1487039201816289280?t=7QYM8tD8eGezbmwEyMiQnQ&s=19
Post by: Badger on February 02, 2022, 11:13:21 AM
Post by: mj2sexay on February 02, 2022, 11:30:10 AM
Same way a weasel
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can turn this
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into this
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good genesDOADNA
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Hahahahahahaha whole family is a corrupt criminal cartel, get Daniel Dale on the case.
https://www.dailyposter.com/biden-moves-to-block-student-debt-victory
Even the people who think outright canceling student debt is a shitty idea agree that there needs to be reform in terms of students getting charged juice rates that would make a freaking loanshark blush.
It's amazing how that's never discussed and said interest rates are still unconscionably high.
Post by: Badger on February 07, 2022, 03:53:45 PM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1490691846691033092?t=vjGvS-36qcxSsyeVu1PLpA&s=19
Post by: mj2sexay on February 09, 2022, 03:00:47 PM
Post by: delavan on February 09, 2022, 06:23:31 PM
Weird to have Dr. Jill take the hit for this when she has absolutely no power or responsibilityFree tuition for community college combats the affordability gap, leads to higher college enrollment which translates to higher wages for low-income and BIPOC students and it's a craven move by Biden to have the First Lady taking the hit especially considering his CNN town hall 'promise' : “I promise you — I guarantee it — we’re going to get free community college in the next several years, across the board."
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1490691846691033092?t=vjGvS-36qcxSsyeVu1PLpA&s=19
Post by: dcm1602 on February 09, 2022, 07:05:28 PM
Free tuition for community college combats the affordability gap, leads to higher college enrollment which translates to higher wages for low-income and BIPOC students and it's a craven move by Biden to have the First Lady taking the hit especially considering his CNN town hall 'promise' : “I promise you — I guarantee it — we’re going to get free community college in the next several years, across the board."
Just to play devils advocate. I imagine if more people have CC degrees you'll just have better educated people at Walmart and wherever.
It's not like there's a shortage of people with community College degrees. People with bachelor's and masters degrees can't even get jobs
Post by: Johnny English on February 09, 2022, 08:01:47 PM
Just to play devils advocate. I imagine if more people have CC degrees you'll just have better educated people at Walmart and wherever.
It's not like there's a shortage of people with community College degrees. People with bachelor's and masters degrees can't even get jobs
Getting a degree, or any form of education, isn't just about getting a job doing excrement for other people. Better educated people are better able to identify opportunities and successfully start and run their own businesses. The idea of keeping people dumb to ensure that you have a ready supply of disposable minimum wage drones so that your groceries or your Amazon order come cheap is pretty reprehensible.
Post by: dcm1602 on February 09, 2022, 09:11:52 PM
Getting a degree, or any form of education, isn't just about getting a job doing excrement for other people. Better educated people are better able to identify opportunities and successfully start and run their own businesses. The idea of keeping people dumb to ensure that you have a ready supply of disposable minimum wage drones so that your groceries or your Amazon order come cheap is pretty reprehensible.
Who said anything about keeping people dumb? I suggested that the benefit of making community college free would be minimal at best if not negligible.
And while your point is valid, I think one could argue that improving grade/highschool would give you far better bang for your buck.
As there's likely a far greater number of people with an inadequate high school education who are also the biggest drains on society.
Post by: delavan on February 10, 2022, 03:47:56 PM
Free crack pipes for all!
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Post by: Badger on February 11, 2022, 02:20:42 PM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1490446743904915457?t=mTFQRQN4gWC7J7gLs9SKzQ&s=19
Post by: Badger on February 11, 2022, 02:24:16 PM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1492089973738287105?t=zhkkcJbD2NKlt7JejBaz_Q&s=19
Post by: bojanglesman on February 11, 2022, 02:36:18 PM
Here's something he's actually a piece of excrement for:THE AFGHANISTAN MONEY WAS EARMARKED TO GO TO THE STOP THE STEAL CAMPAIGN!!! MANY PATRIOTS SAY THIS. SEND $5 FOR YOUR "BIDEN STOLE THE STOLEN ELECTION MONEY" COMMEMORATIVE PLASTIC THIMBLE.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1492089973738287105?t=zhkkcJbD2NKlt7JejBaz_Q&s=19
TEXT 1 TO STOP
Post by: bojanglesman on February 11, 2022, 04:17:25 PM
Here's something he's actually a piece of excrement for:Why? Should he give it to the Taliban? I get it if you are saying he should give it all to Afghan assistance.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1492089973738287105?t=zhkkcJbD2NKlt7JejBaz_Q&s=19
Post by: dcm1602 on February 11, 2022, 05:07:40 PM
Why? Should he give it to the Taliban? I get it if you are saying he should give it all to Afghan assistance.
He already gave them a whole country and threw in billions of dollars of weapons.
The only thing he should be giving them is a bill for it
Post by: Johnny English on February 11, 2022, 06:31:11 PM
He already gave them a whole country and threw in billions of dollars of weapons.
The only thing he should be giving them is a bill for it
Conservatives in power: ATTACK AFGHANISTAN!
Conservatives out of power: WHY ARE YOU NOT PULLING US OUT OF AFGHANISTAN?
Also Conservatives out of power: LOOK WHAT YOU DID BY PULLING US OUT OF AFGHANISTAN!
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 11, 2022, 10:06:34 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on February 12, 2022, 03:44:31 AM
I don't know how you game plan for the entire military and 90% of the government either taking bribes or straight up stealing money and fleeing.
Never been a general or anything
But I've heard that having a military presence is a pretty good detterant
Post by: bojanglesman on February 12, 2022, 07:40:19 AM
Never been a general or anything(https://i.imgflip.com/3vdtdy.png)
But I've heard that having a military presence is a pretty good detterant
Post by: Badger on February 28, 2022, 11:33:43 PM
https://twitter.com/ArthurDelaneyHP/status/1498397121216712704?t=9ziXRaJjH_0SddASL90Geg&s=19
Post by: dcm1602 on March 01, 2022, 07:29:10 AM
We live in hell
https://twitter.com/ArthurDelaneyHP/status/1498397121216712704?t=9ziXRaJjH_0SddASL90Geg&s=19
Poor senile dude is gonna go up there and try to convince the whole world spending like a kajillion dollars is going to save money
Post by: Badger on March 01, 2022, 08:08:44 AM
Poor senile dude is gonna go up there and try to convince the whole world spending like a kajillion dollars is going to save moneyThe funny thing is their angle is intended to please precisely people like you. And given his career track record he'll very likely introduce austerity measures and you'll still believe otherwise.
Post by: MoreCharacters on March 01, 2022, 09:24:24 AM
love to see it
Post by: dcm1602 on March 01, 2022, 04:43:10 PM
The funny thing is their angle is intended to please precisely people like you. And given his career track record he'll very likely introduce austerity measures and you'll still believe otherwise.
His argument is predominantly for Sinema, Manchin, and their constituents
Post by: mj2sexay on March 01, 2022, 04:45:13 PM
conservatives seething at all the praise for Biden's handling of NATO and EU allies
love to see it
I love to read hilarious and desperate fanfic, keep it coming!
Post by: Badger on March 01, 2022, 05:03:47 PM
His argument is predominantly for Sinema, Manchin, and their constituentsGlad you've come around to see that reducing deficits isn't inherently a good thing.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 01, 2022, 05:31:04 PM
Glad you've come around to see that reducing deficits isn't inherently a good thing.
I vehemently don't think blowing up the deficit exponentially is a good thing.
I'm not a believer of oh let's make all of Americans wealth worthless so that we can give people free stuff
When the price of gas sky rockets because of the Russia situation let's see who it hurts most. And just imagine what will happen when that happens to everything, not just gas
Post by: bojanglesman on March 01, 2022, 05:59:29 PM
I vehemently don't think blowing up the deficit exponentially is a good thing.I don't believe in Modern Monetary Theory like Badger, maybe I'm wrong though. However I will never understand why anyone personally needs billions of dollars and has no desire to give the majority of it to someone that needs it. I can understand that person's reluctance to give it to the government, but only because they have proven to be a model of wastefulnesss. I wish there was a way to make donations to highly efficient charities as attractive as tax avoidance in other ways. Obviously just donating a excrement ton of money to downsize their fortune isn't something rich people want to do because they keep getting richer.
I'm not a believer of oh let's make all of Americans wealth worthless so that we can give people free stuff
When the price of gas sky rockets because of the Russia situation let's see who it hurts most. And just imagine what will happen when that happens to everything, not just gas
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 01, 2022, 06:20:06 PM
OK, so:
-Russia/Putin
-Ukraine/Zelenskyy
-Allies
-EU
-NATO
-Deficit
-Freedom
-Democracy
-Aid
Post by: bojanglesman on March 01, 2022, 06:39:57 PM
Alright so what are this year's SOTU drinking game key words?Here's the deal
Let me be clear
That should get you about blind drunk in 15 minutes.
Post by: mj2sexay on March 01, 2022, 07:24:51 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on March 01, 2022, 07:37:59 PM
I don't believe in Modern Monetary Theory like Badger, maybe I'm wrong though. However I will never understand why anyone personally needs billions of dollars and has no desire to give the majority of it to someone that needs it. I can understand that person's reluctance to give it to the government, but only because they have proven to be a model of wastefulnesss. I wish there was a way to make donations to highly efficient charities as attractive as tax avoidance in other ways. Obviously just donating a excrement ton of money to downsize their fortune isn't something rich people want to do because they keep getting richer.
Honestly I don't have objections to an extreme wealth tax, something that would selectively target people with net worth in excess of 50 million (or people whose incomes would lead to net worth of 50+ million)
Its the people who are objectively well off but not freaking rich that get screwed, and this includes a lot of small/medium size business owners.
Something like 50-60% of Americans pay no net taxes. Screw the top 0.1% moderately but not completely (ie I don't support windfall taxes of 80-90%). It's the top 20% that aren't in the 0.1% that get caught in the crosshairs.
To keep excrement simple I would be cool with adding one more bracket to the federal income tax bracket that kicks in at 2 million with a tax rate in the 55% range (the current top tax bracket for single people is 37% and kicks in at 500k ish) (and yes this doesn't include state and local income tax)
When it comes to fixing write offs, options and all that other bullshit I completely support
(in hindsight I'd say 55% federal tax bracket would be extremely extreme, borderline a windfall tax. But if it meant the govt would freak off the other 99.9% of Americans, I'd be okay with it)
Post by: Badger on March 01, 2022, 07:51:36 PM
I'm not a believer of oh let's make all of Americans wealth worthless so that we can give people free stuff
Very brave of you to oppose something that is neither happening nor being advocated for.
Post by: Badger on March 01, 2022, 07:52:41 PM
Alright so what are this year's SOTU drinking game key words?Police
OK, so:
-Russia/Putin
-Ukraine/Zelenskyy
-Allies
-EU
-NATO
-Deficit
-Freedom
-Democracy
-Aid
Post by: dcm1602 on March 01, 2022, 07:53:34 PM
Very brave of you to oppose something that is neither happening nor being advocated for.
I know I know, you have your theory where all government spending is magic and has no impact on anything. But is entirely paid for with the smiles of unicorns and pots of gold at the end of the rainbow
Post by: Badger on March 01, 2022, 07:55:15 PM
To keep excrement simple I would be cool with adding one more bracket to the federal income tax bracket that kicks in at 2 million with a tax rate in the 55% range (the current top tax bracket for single people is 37% and kicks in at 500k ish) (and yes this doesn't include state and local income tax)
(in hindsight I'd say 55% federal tax bracket would be extremely extreme, borderline a windfall tax. But if it meant the govt would freak off the other 99.9% of Americans, I'd be okay with it)
Haha I was gonna say as I was reading it, this is more radical than Bernie's proposed tax brackets were (IIRC it was 50% for earnings over $10M).
Post by: Badger on March 01, 2022, 07:56:00 PM
I know I know, you have your theory where all government spending is magic and has no impact on anything. But is entirely paid for with the smiles of unicorns and pots of gold at the end of the rainbowI know, it's easier to make fun of what you imagine it is than to actually learn a new thing and contend with it.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 01, 2022, 08:01:17 PM
I know, it's easier to make fun of what you imagine it is than to actually learn a new thing and contend with it.
Do you believe the government can spend (near) infinitely with little to no consequences?
Post by: Badger on March 01, 2022, 08:06:26 PM
Do you believe the government can spend (near) infinitely with little to no consequences?No. The federal government can run a deficit with little to no consequences. The federal government should tax people to control inflation and to prevent the anti-democratic effects of having a handful of people who are richer than god. The federal government does not need to tax a dollar to spend a dollar.
The spending:taxing ratio is elastic and anyone who claims the US government cannot afford something is either lying, or ignorant.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 01, 2022, 08:13:09 PM
Haha I was gonna say as I was reading it, this is more radical than Bernie's proposed tax brackets were (IIRC it was 50% for earnings over $10M).
I just looked at his proposal, and his wss way more extreme. Sure his top bracket was lower than 55%.but he wanted to add an extra 6% payrole tax to employers, an extra universal 2.2% tax, and a excrement ton of new tax brackets absolutely derriere raping very successful but not rich Americans.
He also proposed turning capital gains into income tax for households with incomes at 250k
Again I'm cool with giving the top 0.1% a bit of a kick to the nuts. But Bernie wanted to demolish the people who are paying the lions share of local taxes across the country (ie normal wealthy Americans who essentially subsidize schools and Healthcare for their lower income non tax paying neighbors)
If the problem is billionaires don't rape successful normal people
Post by: dcm1602 on March 01, 2022, 08:14:13 PM
No. The federal government can run a deficit with little to no consequences. The federal government should tax people to control inflation and to prevent the anti-democratic effects of having a handful of people who are richer than god. The federal government does not need to tax a dollar to spend a dollar.
The spending:taxing ratio is elastic and anyone who claims the US government cannot afford something is either lying, or ignorant.
I don't disagree that the government can "afford" it. It's the consequences of that affording it that is the issue
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 01, 2022, 08:17:39 PM
Alright so what are this year's SOTU drinking game key words?
OK, so:
-Russia/Putin
-Ukraine/Zelenskyy
-Allies
-EU
-NATO
-Deficit
-Freedom
-Democracy
-Aid
Putting country names on here was a mistake.
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 01, 2022, 09:12:50 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on March 01, 2022, 09:40:43 PM
Ted Cruz always looks like he's trying to figure out who can smell that he excrement himself.He's the most off-putting piece of excrement I've ever seen.
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 01, 2022, 09:45:54 PM
He's the most off-putting piece of excrement I've ever seen.
McConnell is up there. His neck completely ate his chin.
Post by: bojanglesman on March 01, 2022, 10:00:54 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 01, 2022, 10:28:05 PM
???
Post by: Badger on March 02, 2022, 06:13:34 AM
My attention waned at the end but..."God bless our troops! Go get him!"Enjoy your Tostitos
???
Post by: MoreCharacters on March 02, 2022, 09:51:51 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 02, 2022, 10:58:29 AM
Enjoy your Tostitos
Yea that resignation I put in last month might get denied.
Post by: reuben on March 02, 2022, 01:18:34 PM
https://gfycat.com/selfassuredfrightenedbanteng (https://gfycat.com/selfassuredfrightenedbanteng)
I do always enjoy when pageantry backfires. Sit down, doofi.
Post by: delavan on March 02, 2022, 02:43:24 PM
https://preview.redd.it/svlf1evz70l81.gif?format=mp4&s=99c0c56afeaf6692930f8467771bf2c6542ca6b2 (https://preview.redd.it/svlf1evz70l81.gif?format=mp4&s=99c0c56afeaf6692930f8467771bf2c6542ca6b2)^^ haha, nice
https://gfycat.com/selfassuredfrightenedbanteng (https://gfycat.com/selfassuredfrightenedbanteng)
I do always enjoy when pageantry backfires. Sit down, doofi.
https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-god-gif-8419242
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1498858750744092675
Post by: Johnny English on March 02, 2022, 02:53:20 PM
Post by: Badger on March 02, 2022, 02:57:05 PM
Post by: delavan on March 02, 2022, 05:11:51 PM
https://nypost.com/2022/03/01/marjorie-taylor-greene-lauren-boebert-heckle-biden-at-state-of-the-union/
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Feeding_the_pigs.JPG/320px-Feeding_the_pigs.JPG)
Post by: mj2sexay on March 02, 2022, 06:40:15 PM
Pelosi looked (and acted) half-drunk and Kamela's tlts-on-a-bull useless but otoh Kevin McCarthy at the very least should have called those two crusty pieces of shlt Boebert & Taylor-Greene out on the carpet if he didn't already have them unceremoniously assfucked by some behemoth named Tiny. Boebert and Taylor-Greene were a disgrace. Me, I missed it (was flipping back & forth between 'Nova-Providence & Dayton-Richmond) but still, no excuse for this.
https://nypost.com/2022/03/01/marjorie-taylor-greene-lauren-boebert-heckle-biden-at-state-of-the-union/
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Feeding_the_pigs.JPG/320px-Feeding_the_pigs.JPG)
Yeah, I haven't seen something that tacky since the drunken mess that occupies the position of Speaker of the House ripped up the Presidents speech.
Post by: Johnny English on March 02, 2022, 07:14:28 PM
Yeah, I haven't seen something that tacky since the drunken mess that occupies the position of Speaker of the House ripped up the Presidents speech.
I think it's clear that the problem is women in power. We need to go back to the good old days when principled men like Sumner and Brooks resolved their differences in a gentlemanly fashion.
Post by: delavan on March 02, 2022, 08:02:11 PM
Yeah, I haven't seen something that tacky since the drunken mess that occupies the position of Speaker of the House ripped up the Presidents speech.Heckling is beyond the pale in anyone's book. Pelosi's crude blunder while extremely lowbrow was technically après SOTU.
I think it's clear that the problem is women in power. We need to go back to the good old days when principled men like Sumner and Brooks resolved their differences in a gentlemanly fashion.The slave-supporting Democrat Brooks you're referring to actually beat the abolitionist Republican Sumner to within an inch of his life (historically referred to as "the caning of Sumner"); what was proposed above was flipping over the scrip: "the 'canning' of Boebert." Or, to put it metaphorically in historical terms, "bottom rail on top."
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2009/06/bottom-rail-on-top/19547/
Lastly, as for Marjorie Porker-Oinker, I wouldn't bang her with Sarah McBride's dick.
Post by: Johnny English on March 02, 2022, 08:22:33 PM
The slave-supporting Democrat Brooks you're referring to actually beat the abolitionist Republican Sumner to within an inch of his life (historically referred to as "the caning of Sumner");
Yes, I am aware. It's a commonly held belief that introducing women to male dominated environments tempers the worst effects of the male ego and brings a touch more decorum, so it's amusing that the women appear to be worse than the men right now when it comes to rhetoric and a lack of manners, and I have no doubt that Boebert and Gathering would happily get all sticky-hitty with their opponents given the opportunity. They'd probably get re-elected like Brooks did as well, so it rather raises the question of how far you've actually managed to come in the last 160 years...
Post by: dcm1602 on March 02, 2022, 08:45:12 PM
Yes, I am aware. It's a commonly held belief that introducing women to male dominated environments tempers the worst effects of the male ego and brings a touch more decorum, so it's amusing that the women appear to be worse than the men right now when it comes to rhetoric and a lack of manners, and I have no doubt that Boebert and Gathering would happily get all sticky-hitty with their opponents given the opportunity. They'd probably get re-elected like Brooks did as well, so it rather raises the question of how far you've actually managed to come in the last 160 years...
I'd say Trump being an extreme buffoon balances out some of these ridiculous women like Pelosi Ohmar Greene and Boobert.
Plus you the bad fellas are more likely to keep their mouths shut since they're too busy sexually assaulting everyone.
They're all a disease
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 03, 2022, 08:20:11 AM
The slave-supporting Democrat Brooks you're referring to actually beat the abolitionist Republican Sumner to within an inch of his life (historically referred to as "the caning of Sumner"); what was proposed above was flipping over the scrip: "the 'canning' of Boebert." Or, to put it metaphorically in historical terms, "bottom rail on top."
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2009/06/bottom-rail-on-top/19547
Today in "I didn't get the joke"
Post by: Badger on March 03, 2022, 11:58:37 AM
I'd say Trump being an extreme buffoon balances out some of these ridiculous women like Pelosi Ohmar Greene and Boobert.
Plus you the bad fellas are more likely to keep their mouths shut since they're too busy sexually assaulting everyone.
They're all a disease
Imagine lumping Omar in there, lol.
Post by: Johnny English on March 03, 2022, 12:43:13 PM
Imagine lumping Omar in there, lol.
The way she wears a scarf is un-American.
Post by: delavan on March 03, 2022, 02:08:37 PM
Today in "I didn't get the joke"sorry Cato, it was obtuse
- Brooks 'caning' Sumner (1856) referred to Brooks using his cane to bash Sumner to near death.
- 'Canning Boebert' referred to Boebert (per my previous post) being unceremoniously assfucked by a behemoth named Tiny.
my schtick's refined, sophisticated humor well-suited for the genteel set. ; )
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 03, 2022, 03:14:22 PM
https://preview.redd.it/svlf1evz70l81.gif?format=mp4&s=99c0c56afeaf6692930f8467771bf2c6542ca6b2 (https://preview.redd.it/svlf1evz70l81.gif?format=mp4&s=99c0c56afeaf6692930f8467771bf2c6542ca6b2)
https://gfycat.com/selfassuredfrightenedbanteng (https://gfycat.com/selfassuredfrightenedbanteng)
I do always enjoy when pageantry backfires. Sit down, doofi.
What the actual freak is Pelosi doing there
Post by: reuben on March 03, 2022, 03:28:09 PM
What the actual freak is Pelosi doing there
rubbin them knucks
Post by: bojanglesman on March 03, 2022, 03:28:36 PM
What the actual freak is Pelosi doing there
Looks like she wanted to show excitement about an issue and then realized she was the only one standing, so she pretended to be a squirrel.
Post by: delavan on March 03, 2022, 04:59:23 PM
Lastly, as for Marjorie Porker-Oinker, I wouldn't bang her withSarah McBride'sLori Lightfoot's dick.
https://bulldogreports.com/2022/03/03/my-d-is-bigger-than-yours-i-have-the-biggest-d-in-chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-insulted-lawyer-lawsuit-claims/
Post by: delavan on March 04, 2022, 02:47:43 PM
https://imgflip.com/i/67gr70
Post by: dcm1602 on March 04, 2022, 03:21:50 PM
https://bulldogreports.com/2022/03/03/my-d-is-bigger-than-yours-i-have-the-biggest-d-in-chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-insulted-lawyer-lawsuit-claims/
How the heck was this women voted into office?
I get it that crazies get put into office all the time, but she doesn't seem just crazy but mangy
Post by: Badger on March 04, 2022, 03:29:27 PM
How the heck was this women voted into office?Because her runoff opponent was more progressive so everyone else rallied behind Lightfoot to crush her.
I get it that crazies get put into office all the time, but she doesn't seem just crazy but mangy
Post by: bojanglesman on March 04, 2022, 03:29:35 PM
How the heck was this women voted into office?
I get it that crazies get put into office all the time, but she doesn't seem just crazy but mangy
1. They are allegations- although they are awful specific not to be true.
2. There must be weird excrement in the water in Chicago. Politicians there are crazy and corrupt on both sides.
Post by: Badger on March 04, 2022, 03:42:29 PM
1. They are allegations- although they are awful specific not to be true.Dan Lipinski:
2. There must be weird excrement in the water in Chicago. Politicians there are crazy and corrupt on both sides.
"In 2004 Lipinski's father ran for re-nomination in the Democratic primary. After easily winning the nomination, the elder Lipinski announced his retirement. As the Democratic committeeman for Chicago's 23rd Ward—which is virtually coextensive with the Chicago portion of the 3rd district—he was able to persuade the state Democratic Party to select his son to replace him on the ballot. The move was somewhat controversial; since the younger Lipinski had not lived regularly in Illinois since 1989 or run for elected office before, but it allowed him to sidestep the Democratic primary—the real contest in this heavily Democratic district. He then bought a home in Western Springs as his residence in the district. As expected, Lipinski defeated his Republican challenger, Ryan Chlada, in the general election. He went on to win re-election seven times."
Post by: dcm1602 on March 05, 2022, 03:17:09 PM
1. They are allegations- although they are awful specific not to be true.
2. There must be weird excrement in the water in Chicago. Politicians there are crazy and corrupt on both sides.
Still Capones city
Post by: Badger on March 05, 2022, 07:29:10 PM
https://twitter.com/YahooNews/status/1499912352510132232?t=yd3JMKnbeo1pmGwH5oErJA&s=19
Post by: MBGreen on March 05, 2022, 07:31:01 PM
BitchWhy is it "necessary"?....thats horseshit
https://twitter.com/YahooNews/status/1499912352510132232?t=yd3JMKnbeo1pmGwH5oErJA&s=19
Post by: Badger on March 05, 2022, 07:37:11 PM
Why is it "necessary"?....thats horseshitIt's necessary to throw bodies into the grinder uh I mean the economy
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 05, 2022, 08:00:35 PM
You can hate the corporate landlords and the companies that are demanding a return to in-office labor (believe me, they have it coming) but having large empty tracts of buildings actively hurts the people who are there to support those areas. Multiple restaurants, coffee shops, convenience stores, barbers, tailors, grocers, and laundry services are all dotted around the area and are receiving little to no income to support themselves. So what these areas are left with is multiple massive buildings using up resources in the form of electricity, water, and waste management with little or no people in them, and support industry resources languishing with little to no patronage. The direct outcome of both of these things are decay and poverty, which is why there is an incentive to return to these offices before they and the local economy in the districts crumble into nothing.
It's easy to say that Biden is giving in to corporate greed by making these statements, but the more complex reality in this specific is that he is just a conservative septuagenarian that cannot fathom a better way to solve a litany or problems than by going back to "when things were better". I don't think Badger is wrong for saying that it is a knee-jerk reaction to a complex problem, but I think he is being too simplistic in his critique, regardless if Biden himself understands the differences or not.
For the record, "more green spaces" and "more parks" is not the right answer. Yes, it would look a lot prettier to have more grass and trees and flowers where some of these structures are (seriously, I would love to see it) but it would actively hurt people where utilizing these spaces for services could actually benefit them. A lot of these areas are perfectly suited to be fit for housing, especially middle income housing which is rapidly disappearing in metropolitan areas, as well as services affordable services which gentrification is wiping out among neighborhoods. It's difficult to repurpose a 36 story sky scraper in NYC but smaller cities could have a lot more success in converting some of these buildings into middle of the paycheck multifamily housing for families struggling to find affordable housing. The balance would be making sure that services - coffee shops, barber shops, grocery stores, restaurants - are priced accordingly, and not just catering to the business class that is the norm for working there.
Post by: delavan on March 06, 2022, 01:59:35 PM
- is jenn Psaki highlighting her hair (seems more brighter and 'gingery' nowadays vs. the subdued tone below)??
- what color do you suppose her bush is??
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Jen_Psaki_2021-01-20.jpg/320px-Jen_Psaki_2021-01-20.jpg)
Probably used to seeing her straight-on which eliminates the 3-D effect so I never really thought of her as sportin' a motorboatable rack
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Jen_Psaki_April_1_2015_%28cropped%29.jpg)
Post by: bojanglesman on March 06, 2022, 03:24:02 PM
Two questions and an observation:She prolly has a brown beav with auburn highlights. Decent boobies for a Mom.
- is jenn Psaki highlighting her hair (seems more brighter and 'gingery' nowadays vs. the subdued tone below)??
- what color do you suppose her bush is??
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Jen_Psaki_2021-01-20.jpg/320px-Jen_Psaki_2021-01-20.jpg)
Probably used to seeing her straight-on which eliminates the 3-D effect so I never really thought of her as sportin' a motorboatable rack
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Jen_Psaki_April_1_2015_%28cropped%29.jpg)
Post by: delavan on March 12, 2022, 11:07:00 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 09, 2022, 09:06:24 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 15, 2022, 07:28:25 PM
Post by: Badger on April 15, 2022, 11:15:29 PM
https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1514701992287174659?t=oL1FvwhlRvGd6qAgVOzqGw&s=19
Post by: delavan on April 16, 2022, 01:04:48 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Vice_Presidential_Point_-_3219469260.jpg/160px-Vice_Presidential_Point_-_3219469260.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/The_fin_de_siècle_newspaper_proprietor_%28cropped%29.jpg/640px-The_fin_de_siècle_newspaper_proprietor_%28cropped%29.jpg)
Post by: delavan on April 16, 2022, 02:46:39 PM
Big if true
https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1514701992287174659?t=oL1FvwhlRvGd6qAgVOzqGw&s=19
Nice head 👌
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Kim_Dotcom.JPG/320px-Kim_Dotcom.JPG)
Post by: delavan on April 26, 2022, 01:18:56 PM
https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/1518915325064105984
Post by: mj2sexay on April 26, 2022, 03:13:26 PM
Good move Joseph
https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/1518915325064105984
Indeed a good move, but considering he was the driving force behind the legislation that put them there, it's basically like cleaning your own mess.
Remember though, he was the clear choice as the non-racist candidate, and not the guy who injected more money into HBCU's than anyone before him, started the Urban Opportunity Initiatives and worked with Van Jones to enact comprehensive CJ reform at the federal level.
Post by: Badger on April 27, 2022, 04:03:32 PM
https://twitter.com/UsefulIdiotpod/status/1518986960026677249?t=RwVMl1wjMEJSqcj6h7DMtA&s=19
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 27, 2022, 05:47:26 PM
Biden probably doesn't remember this
https://twitter.com/UsefulIdiotpod/status/1518986960026677249?t=RwVMl1wjMEJSqcj6h7DMtA&s=19
The part of Scott Ritter was convicted of unlawful contact with a minor will play havoc with Q folks viewing this.
Post by: mj2sexay on May 05, 2022, 07:47:21 PM
Just yesterday this poopchute was talking about moderation (lolololol) but does anyone else remember when he ran on uniting the country? What a sorry sack of excrement.
I wonder how much longer I'll be able to say this once the Truth Commission is fully up and running.
Post by: dcm1602 on May 05, 2022, 07:51:44 PM
Lowlife piece of excrement pruneface disaster of a President through his professional liar Peppermint Patty takes "no position on where people protest" in response to a question about pro-choice activists protesting at the homes of Supreme Court justices.
Just yesterday this poopchute was talking about moderation (lolololol) but does anyone else remember when he ran on uniting the country? What a sorry sack of excrement.
I wonder how much longer I'll be able to say this once the Truth Commission is fully up and running.
I don't know what kind of protection Supreme Court justices are offered but you'd have to seriously be concerned about one of these nut jobs attacking them. I mean you have people literally freaking attacking Dave Chapelle for telling jokes. Violent protesting is strongly encouraged these days, it's insane
Post by: Johnny English on May 05, 2022, 08:26:55 PM
Post by: Badger on May 05, 2022, 08:37:24 PM
Lowlife piece of excrement pruneface disaster of a President through his professional liar Peppermint Patty takes "no position on where people protest" in response to a question about pro-choice activists protesting at the homes of Supreme Court justices.
Nobody feels bad for powerful people who do awful things.
Post by: dcm1602 on May 05, 2022, 08:37:43 PM
The guy who attacked Chappelle appears to be a black Trump supporting rapper, but don't let that get in the way of your "violent left" narrative.
Originally it was reported that it was a transgender. I guess they were wrong
Post by: Badger on May 05, 2022, 08:42:29 PM
Originally it was reported that it was a transgender. I guess they were wrongWow, I can't believe the people who wanted you to think that would lie.
Post by: MBGreen on May 05, 2022, 09:10:19 PM
Wow, I can't believe the people who wanted you to think that would lie.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220506/231df41abaa0e13a3be0838278121501.gif)
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 05, 2022, 09:16:11 PM
I don't know what kind of protection Supreme Court justices are offered but you'd have to seriously be concerned about one of these nut jobs attacking them. I mean you have people literally freaking attacking Dave Chapelle for telling jokes. Violent protesting is strongly encouraged these days, it's insane
Give me one instance of pro-choice protestor deadly violence.
Post by: mj2sexay on May 05, 2022, 11:18:28 PM
The guy who attacked Chappelle appears to be a black Trump supporting rapper, but don't let that get in the way of your "violent left" narrative.
LOL.
Nobody feels bad for powerful people who do awful things.
LOL.
Give me one instance of pro-choice protestor deadly violence.
LOL.
I was wondering how the same type's (mostly) who's assholes pucker at even the thought of 1/6 nevermind blame Trump for it would react and I wasn't disappointed!
Post by: Badger on May 06, 2022, 06:52:34 AM
Post by: delavan on May 06, 2022, 12:29:57 PM
The guy who attacked Chappelle appears to be a black Trump supporting rapper, but don't let that get in the way of your "violent left" narrative.Jussie English, is that you?.. : )
https://twitter.com/sn00pdad/status/1521998683629309954
https://newsone.com/4330805/dave-chappelle-isaiah-lee-attack-motive/
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/newsonecom-media-bias
Post by: dcm1602 on May 06, 2022, 03:21:10 PM
Jussie English, is that you?.. : )
https://twitter.com/sn00pdad/status/1521998683629309954
https://newsone.com/4330805/dave-chappelle-isaiah-lee-attack-motive/
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/newsonecom-media-bias
I just found it interesting that she blames Donald Trump for his comment about paying the legal fees if you knock someone out.
Then she applauded the people in the Chapelle situation for doing a great job. Where 10 people were stomping on a guy and beating the excrement out of him.
Imagine if the freaking police did that to someone, she'd be on there calling for the freaking death penalty on all of them.
Post by: mj2sexay on May 08, 2022, 07:53:36 PM
Give me one instance of pro-choice protestor deadly violence.
lol part 2
https://twitter.com/AlexanderShur/status/1523320097993076737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1523320097993076737%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fus%2Fwisconsin-anti-abortion-group-molotov-cocktail-arson-attack
Post by: Badger on May 09, 2022, 08:10:22 AM
Post by: Badger on May 09, 2022, 08:11:11 AM
lol part 2This is awesome and should be implemented more widely.
https://twitter.com/AlexanderShur/status/1523320097993076737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1523320097993076737%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fus%2Fwisconsin-anti-abortion-group-molotov-cocktail-arson-attack
Post by: reuben on May 09, 2022, 08:15:02 AM
lol part 2
https://twitter.com/AlexanderShur/status/1523320097993076737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1523320097993076737%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fus%2Fwisconsin-anti-abortion-group-molotov-cocktail-arson-attack
10/10 graffiti penmanship
Post by: mj2sexay on May 09, 2022, 10:59:38 AM
I'm sure when the right decides to be uncivil again this place will explode. Absolute hypocrisy on display.
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 09, 2022, 11:17:30 AM
Post by: mj2sexay on May 09, 2022, 11:19:49 AM
What are the odds an employee at WFA dropped one they were supposed to throw through an abortion clinic’s windows at the office?
Why is it so hard for you guys to denounce political violence?
Post by: Badger on May 09, 2022, 06:12:22 PM
Why is it so hard for you guys to denounce political violence?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220509/69fbb33c6c83a091e399c33eed51335b.jpg)
Post by: klaximilian on May 09, 2022, 08:39:47 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220509/69fbb33c6c83a091e399c33eed51335b.jpg)
Sums up this thread, and the entire messageboard quite nicely.
Post by: Badger on May 12, 2022, 11:46:14 AM
https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1524458691520569345?t=wgswVMcfvEK6uY2dxf3Wxw&s=19
Post by: Johnny English on May 12, 2022, 12:38:31 PM
Post by: reuben on May 12, 2022, 12:42:11 PM
Post by: Badger on May 12, 2022, 12:42:39 PM
And yet in the Socialist Republic of Canada we can't move for dishwashers. They were on sale in Home Depot just the other day, we have so many they're being discounted.To be clear, that guy is clearly an idiot who can't shop since there are plenty of dishwashers around.
Post by: Johnny English on May 12, 2022, 01:07:13 PM
To be clear, that guy is clearly an idiot who can't shop since there are plenty of dishwashers around.
Canada is socialist and full of dishwashers.
US is also full of dishwashers so it stands to reason that Biden must also have turned the US into a socialist country.
Q. E. D.
Post by: Badger on May 12, 2022, 09:11:33 PM
Post by: delavan on May 13, 2022, 08:43:50 AM
https://twitter.com/TheDemocrats/status/1524187289949249536?t=12iWIyKsJywJ8JOZmhlpfA&s=19stock tip: Raytheon (RTX) & Lockheed Martin (LMT)
Post by: Badger on May 16, 2022, 10:38:09 AM
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1526223174014275587?t=FfBPaPLTZBWmqzpO2EuoYA&s=19
Post by: ons on May 16, 2022, 10:46:08 AM
https://twitter.com/charlie_savage/status/1526201572165926912?t=Gx1fZkLirkFkEV6oaembag&s=19
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1526223174014275587?t=FfBPaPLTZBWmqzpO2EuoYA&s=19
Aw yeah if history has taught us anything it is that imperialism is always good and never causes problems.
Post by: delavan on May 18, 2022, 05:10:00 PM
gas through the roof
broken record incompetence broken record incompetence broken record incompetence
Post by: dcm1602 on May 18, 2022, 05:15:01 PM
dow/401k's through the floor
gas through the roofit's Putin's fault..disinformation board on hold..
broken record incompetence broken record incompetence broken record incompetence
The inflation thing and the delayed response will probably be more significant than everything else that happens during Bidens term combined
Post by: mj2sexay on May 18, 2022, 05:24:11 PM
I was very concerned about the independent voters giving blowback to the overturning of Roe, but at this rate the economy will be in such shambles for the November midterms it really might not matter.
Post by: dcm1602 on May 18, 2022, 05:46:59 PM
Absolute and abject disaster.
I was very concerned about the independent voters giving blowback to the overturning of Roe, but at this rate the economy will be in such shambles for the November midterms it really might not matter.
I don't think most Americans understand the economy enough.
They'll see they're able to get jobs basically anywhere they want and think it's not that bad. Of course the price of gas will be the one thing that makes people panic and think the economy is in disarray. If DOW hits 20,000 most people won't know what to make of it.
If gas hits 8$ a gallon, then people will think it's the freaking apocalypse.
I think the gas prices is going to really shut the left up on global warming and the green agenda.
But RvW is going to probably give the left a clear edge on all talking points
TLDR I think RvW is going to be much more powerful than the economy. But the cumulative losses of the Biden administration may still outdue it
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 23, 2022, 09:17:50 AM
Joe Biden’s America
Post by: mj2sexay on May 23, 2022, 01:20:01 PM
The guy who attacked Chappelle appears to be a black Trump supporting rapper, but don't let that get in the way of your "violent left" narrative.
Oops.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2022/05/23/dave-chappelle-alleged-attacker-motive-isaiah-lee-triggering-jokes/9890771002/
Post by: dcm1602 on May 23, 2022, 01:26:52 PM
Oops.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2022/05/23/dave-chappelle-alleged-attacker-motive-isaiah-lee-triggering-jokes/9890771002/
This lawless excrement I just don't get
Quote
Lee was detained for assault, but Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office declined to pursue felony charges, a press release stated.
The Los Angeles City Attorney’s Office filed four misdemeanor charges after the L.A. County DA's office declined the case, Mike Feuer announced May 5. Lee plead not guilty to all the charges
And the guy ended up being charged with a seperate attempted murder
It's like in the United States we love to arrest people for drugs, but seemingly don't incarcerate violent criminals
Post by: Badger on May 23, 2022, 01:29:30 PM
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1528622173564424194?t=nqR2U3eC70XZMmVyr9PqIQ&s=19
Post by: Johnny English on May 23, 2022, 01:30:28 PM
Oops.Oops how? Nothing in your link contradicts my post. Or don't you allow black bisexuals on your team?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2022/05/23/dave-chappelle-alleged-attacker-motive-isaiah-lee-triggering-jokes/9890771002/
Post by: dcm1602 on May 23, 2022, 02:17:50 PM
Oops how? Nothing in your link contradicts my post. Or don't you allow black bisexuals on your team?
The original comment of mine was about
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I don't know what kind of protection Supreme Court justices are offered but you'd have to seriously be concerned about one of these nut jobs attacking them. I mean you have people literally freaking attacking Dave Chapelle for telling jokes. Violent protesting is strongly encouraged these days, it's insane
He may have been trying to have a gotcha moment with that link, but it does go back to the original point.
Post by: delavan on May 23, 2022, 04:53:19 PM
Oops.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2022/05/23/dave-chappelle-alleged-attacker-motive-isaiah-lee-triggering-jokes/9890771002/
Oops how? Nothing in your link contradicts my post. Or don't you allow black bisexuals on your team?
Make America Fellate Again
Post by: bojanglesman on May 27, 2022, 07:44:49 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 27, 2022, 11:27:07 AM
Biden admin planning to cancel $10K of student loans from each borrower per Wash Post. From a quick google search, it would cost about $343 billion to do this.
Do it.
Post by: delavan on May 27, 2022, 04:32:57 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on May 27, 2022, 05:05:10 PM
Biden admin planning to cancel $10K of student loans from each borrower per Wash Post. From a quick google search, it would cost about $343 billion to do this.
And the left is already whining and crying that this isn't enough
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/27/advocates-slam-reported-biden-plan-to-cancel-10000-in-student-debt.html
That sense of entitlement is strong doe
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 02, 2022, 12:53:51 PM
Didn’t vote blue hard enough I guess
Post by: Badger on June 02, 2022, 08:09:47 PM
Biden admin planning to cancel $10K of student loans from each borrower per Wash Post. From a quick google search, it would cost about $343 billion to do this.No it wouldn't
Post by: reuben on June 02, 2022, 08:39:46 PM
No it wouldn't
I was wondering when you were going to say that.
Post by: Badger on June 02, 2022, 08:42:28 PM
https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1532076930274578433?t=8wTu2prLVBYovhjMzq6Whw&s=19
Post by: Badger on June 02, 2022, 08:42:53 PM
I was wondering when you were going to say that.When the stench of our political threads dissipated enough to jump back in.
Post by: reuben on June 02, 2022, 08:44:11 PM
When the stench of our political threads dissipated enough to jump back in.
Shrewd
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 02, 2022, 08:46:41 PM
What America needs right now
https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1532076930274578433?t=8wTu2prLVBYovhjMzq6Whw&s=19
National Whores Day is a great day to announce a stamp commemorating the Blowjob Queen of Hollywood.
Post by: bojanglesman on June 02, 2022, 09:02:49 PM
No it wouldn'tAre you arguing with the number or is this a modern monetary theory thing?
I guess it also depends on what the income cutoff is, if there is one. It probably won't happen anyway.
Post by: mj2sexay on June 02, 2022, 09:40:56 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 03, 2022, 04:37:58 AM
Post by: Badger on June 03, 2022, 06:16:51 PM
Are you arguing with the number or is this a modern monetary theory thing?If X issues a loan and decides not to collect it, it doesn't cost X more money to forgive the debt. The money is already spent.
I guess it also depends on what the income cutoff is, if there is one. It probably won't happen anyway.
Post by: bojanglesman on June 03, 2022, 08:56:37 PM
If X issues a loan and decides not to collect it, it doesn't cost X more money to forgive the debt. The money is already spent.A loan isn't money spent. A loan is money that is expected to be returned. Otherwise they'd be called student gifts, not student loans. Interest not collected is also money lost. The government decides not to collect but the people didn't decide that directly.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just not blind to the fact that there are negatives to it as well.
Post by: Badger on June 05, 2022, 10:00:30 AM
A loan isn't money spent. A loan is money that is expected to be returned. Otherwise they'd be called student gifts, not student loans. Interest not collected is also money lost. The government decides not to collect but the people didn't decide that directly.It was money spent though, spent with the chance it would not be paid back. No loan has a 100% guarantee of repayment. It doesn't cost additional money to not collect.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just not blind to the fact that there are negatives to it as well.
Post by: MBGreen on June 05, 2022, 10:03:01 AM
No loan has a 100% guarantee of repayment.
Usually when this happens, you end up swimming with the fishes. Pay your debts.
Post by: Johnny English on June 05, 2022, 10:18:50 AM
For the millionth time: no matter how much idiot conservatives might try and argue otherwise, household microeconomic principles =/= governmental macroeconomic principles. The entire concept of debt is different. Start with getting heads round the concept that banks are not dependent upon your personal success for theirs, and go from there.
Post by: bojanglesman on June 05, 2022, 10:26:01 AM
Post by: MBGreen on June 05, 2022, 10:38:42 AM
The "hurrrrrrr pay ur debts" argument ignores some very basic economic arguments though.Lol
For the millionth time: no matter how much idiot conservatives might try and argue otherwise, household microeconomic principles =/= governmental macroeconomic principles. The entire concept of debt is different. Start with getting heads round the concept that banks are not dependent upon your personal success for theirs, and go from there.
Post by: dcm1602 on June 05, 2022, 12:56:27 PM
The "hurrrrrrr pay ur debts" argument ignores some very basic economic arguments though.
For the millionth time: no matter how much idiot conservatives might try and argue otherwise, household microeconomic principles =/= governmental macroeconomic principles. The entire concept of debt is different. Start with getting heads round the concept that banks are not dependent upon your personal success for theirs, and go from there.
Just because they're not the same doesn't mean that not paying your debt doesn't have consequences.
No matter how your permutations work.
You're redistributing wealth to people who don't pay their debt, from those who pay taxes.
Sure this is happening all the time considering 50% of Americans don't freaking pay federal taxes to begin with, but this is essentially a bonus on top of it.
In practical terms about 50% of this cost will get bore by the top 1%, with the other 50% by the Americans in the middle/upper middle class.
Post by: Johnny English on June 05, 2022, 01:06:25 PM
We all pay for lots of things we don't directly use. I don't have kids but I've paid for schools for the last three decades. I have a good career but I pay for social services that I don't need.
Education is a social investment for the benefit of all. Student debt actively discoursges social mobility. Why do you hate the American dream?
Post by: dcm1602 on June 05, 2022, 02:17:54 PM
So?
We all pay for lots of things we don't directly use. I don't have kids but I've paid for schools for the last three decades. I have a good career but I pay for social services that I don't need.
Education is a social investment for the benefit of all. Student debt actively discoursges social mobility. Why do you hate the American dream?
You're not paying for education, the money was already spent remember?
You're paying for debt
Not to mention these loans aren't exclusively for school, so you're paying for debt that was spent on a plethora of excrement.
Regardless its a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things.
I don't agree with it, but arguing isn't going to accomplish anything.
If Biden wants to change something change processes going forwar, don't pay your voters for their previous support
Post by: Badger on June 07, 2022, 08:13:55 PM
Usually when this happens, you end up swimming with the fishes. Pay your debts.Of all the obvious trolling you do, dying on this hill is the dumbest one
Post by: Badger on June 07, 2022, 08:14:37 PM
Just because they're not the same doesn't mean that not paying your debt doesn't have consequences.
No matter how your permutations work.
You're redistributing wealth to people who don't pay their debt, from those who pay taxes.
No
Post by: MBGreen on June 07, 2022, 08:16:15 PM
Of all the obvious trolling you do, dying on this hill is the dumbest oneI'm immortal, babbie....my debts are all paid up.
Post by: Badger on June 07, 2022, 08:17:27 PM
If Biden wants to change something change processes going forward,
Except he can't pass meaningful higher education reform without Congress, which effectively means he can't do it at all - so he should do the one thing he can do via executive order and cancel federal student loan debt.
Post by: mj2sexay on June 09, 2022, 07:56:15 AM
Post by: Johnny English on June 09, 2022, 09:12:19 AM
Amazing to see a grown man have his tongue used for DNC toilet paper like how Kimmel totally debased himself last night.
As opposed to the hardnosed investigative challenges that Trump used to get from the likes of Fox?
Kimmel's on at like 11pm. You know what a Kimmel / Biden interview is going to be like, I don't see the point in hate watching it and getting yourself all wound up before bedtime.
Post by: mj2sexay on June 09, 2022, 11:57:19 AM
As opposed to the hardnosed investigative challenges that Trump used to get from the likes of Fox?
Trump at least made himself accessible to all kinds of media, even when it was a mistake to do so. Jonathan Swan, Lesley (bathroom) Stahl, etc.
This old codger won't come off the couch and stop watching his Matlock reruns and drinking his ensure unless it's something straight out of PRAVDA. Literally LESTER HOLT was too much for the old bat to bear.
Post by: Badger on June 17, 2022, 07:34:32 AM
Peak discourse
Post by: reuben on June 17, 2022, 04:45:02 PM
Biden just wreaking havoc around the world, goddamn cool it joe
Post by: Johnny English on June 17, 2022, 05:38:16 PM
(https://i.redd.it/7o7vgf5dt7691.jpg)
Biden just wreaking havoc around the world, goddamn cool it joe
Surprise they didn't use your neighbours to the north, we're at about $7.80 a gallon right now. Although obviously we're currently under communist rule, so that probably doesn't come as a surprise to anyone.
As I keep telling people, high gas prices are a feature at least as much as they're a bug. You're supposed to be driving less, especially if you have or plan to have children, and you should be paying a fuckton of tax for using gasoline in order to offset the damage you're doing to their future. Pretty sure conservatives are all about facing up to the consequences of your own actions, no? Welcome to reality.
Obviously that goes down very well in my hardcore conservative truck loving part of the world, but I'll keep banging the drum.
Post by: mj2sexay on June 18, 2022, 12:09:25 PM
(https://i.redd.it/7o7vgf5dt7691.jpg)
Biden just wreaking havoc around the world, goddamn cool it joe
I love how you think this graph means something, as if gas prices in european countries weren't routinely around 7 bucks a gallon even in good times.
Anything to simp for this absolute abortion/failure, or absolve yourself of voting for it I suppose.
As I keep telling people, high gas prices are a feature at least as much as they're a bug.
Yes, it is becoming clear that by not repealing the federal gas tax, opening up drilling leases on lands that were already earmarked before an executive order shut down drilling or doing ANYTHING to combat this, that the administration wants higher prices so people switch to electric.
Of course, not everyone has the 50k to drop on an electric car, but remember, Democrats are the party of the working class!
Post by: Johnny English on June 18, 2022, 12:48:57 PM
I love how you think this graph means something, as if gas prices in european countries weren't routinely around 7 bucks a gallon even in good times.
Anything to simp for this absolute abortion/failure, or absolve yourself of voting for it I suppose.
Yes, it is becoming clear that by not repealing the federal gas tax, opening up drilling leases on lands that were already earmarked before an executive order shut down drilling or doing ANYTHING to combat this, that the administration wants higher prices so people switch to electric.
Of course, not everyone has the 50k to drop on an electric car, but remember, Democrats are the party of the working class!
You're falling into the usual trap of linear thinking that so many people fail on. "How else do I drive there?" is not the only question that people should be asking themselves.
- Is there a transit option available?
- Could I car pool this journey?
- Do I actually need to make this journey?
These are some of the questions that you, me, and everyone else should be asking. And we should be asking and answering them honestly, because it's surprising how often the answer is something other than "I have to make this journey, and I have to make it now, and I have to make it in my personal vehicle". The reality is that an awful lot of driving is done for convenience, and I'm not shedding tears for people having to spend more for convenience.
None of that has anything to do with Biden. It's a difficult reality that everyone should be facing up to in this day and age, particularly people who expect to still be on the planet in 30 years' time, and particularly people who have or plan to have children who will be here for much longer than that.
Post by: reuben on June 18, 2022, 03:01:29 PM
I love how you think this graph means something
I love how you think that's a graph
Post by: Johnny English on June 18, 2022, 03:17:20 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/economy/2022/05/07/oil-company-record-profits-2022/9686761002/
DAMN YOU AND YOUR TAXES BIDEN
Post by: dcm1602 on June 18, 2022, 06:55:51 PM
Exxon, Shell, BP, Chevron and others announce record profits through H1:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/economy/2022/05/07/oil-company-record-profits-2022/9686761002/
DAMN YOU AND YOUR TAXES BIDEN
Petrol economics isn't exactly a speciality of mine.
But if you have large stores of something (ie oil) and the price sky rockets, shouldn't your profits logically go up?
Supply problems and an increased cost could be a thing, but wouldn't those things lag behind to future quarters?
I logically price changes should have a much more immediate impact than operational costs
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 18, 2022, 09:08:09 PM
Post by: reuben on June 18, 2022, 09:08:59 PM
- Is there a transit option available?
BREAKING: Conservative mob assaults Biden for promoting alternative transportation.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVj0dm8WAAIV5UR.jpg)
Post by: Badger on June 21, 2022, 10:29:43 AM
https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1539012452905627650?t=vUNcr4EgC_dk6GTRgMTUIg&s=19
Post by: Badger on June 23, 2022, 08:48:35 AM
https://bidentracking.substack.com/p/why-biden-struggles-with-young-people?sd=pf
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220623/eb5de83910fa08c47790f4240dc139bf.jpg)
Post by: dcm1602 on June 23, 2022, 12:22:17 PM
Biden approval at 25% among people aged 18-34, lowest out of all age groups (Quinnipiac)
https://bidentracking.substack.com/p/why-biden-struggles-with-young-people?sd=pf
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220623/eb5de83910fa08c47790f4240dc139bf.jpg)
How the freak do 80% of dems approve?
Especially when you look at the approve rates of young people, blacks, women, and Hispanics and they're all completely abysmal
Post by: Badger on June 23, 2022, 02:27:43 PM
How the freak do 80% of dems approve?I guess a large amount of the people polled don't identify as Dems.
Especially when you look at the approve rates of young people, blacks, women, and Hispanics and they're all completely abysmal
Post by: Badger on June 29, 2022, 06:37:24 AM
https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1542101433700552704?t=_g1qv1f_4Jj4weP-fuf40Q&s=19
Post by: delavan on June 29, 2022, 12:42:10 PM
AHHHHHHHHHWas CNN-to-Kammy a question or a suggestion? Denny McLean couldn't have grooved a meatball to Mickey Mantle any better.
https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1542101433700552704?t=_g1qv1f_4Jj4weP-fuf40Q&s=19
Post by: dcm1602 on June 29, 2022, 01:11:47 PM
AHHHHHHHHH
https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1542101433700552704?t=_g1qv1f_4Jj4weP-fuf40Q&s=19
I'm not sure if I don't understand the law, or this reporter doesn't.
But what the freak do they want them to do?
My understanding is there's no big fix possible.
It'll just be the cumulative effect of small things, such as access to medical abortions or the ability to travel out of state for one
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 29, 2022, 01:31:41 PM
Post by: Badger on June 30, 2022, 10:21:35 AM
(https://i.redd.it/dmoultxxtn891.png)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 30, 2022, 11:42:53 AM
Post by: Badger on June 30, 2022, 06:46:44 PM
https://twitter.com/business/status/1542514225230163968?t=3UhM5jtnBiiqDrGM0T6Yww&s=19
Post by: Badger on July 01, 2022, 04:59:12 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1542911161762549762?t=Zqu0dMYjdZ42m7AELPjMQA&s=19
Post by: delavan on July 01, 2022, 05:25:08 PM
yeet^ Looks like he kept his campaign promise to unite Americans. Kudos Giuseppi
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1542911161762549762?t=Zqu0dMYjdZ42m7AELPjMQA&s=19
“A Presidency For All Americans”
https://joebiden.com/presidency-for-all-americans/
Post by: Badger on July 05, 2022, 10:58:28 AM
https://twitter.com/davidrkadler/status/1544298289914384385?t=2w5IhrZceV9DBS3cBLVBrQ&s=19
Post by: Badger on July 05, 2022, 01:37:03 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/05/politics/democrats-frustrated-biden-lack-of-urgency-supreme-court-setbacks/index.html
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 05, 2022, 01:47:08 PM
This one has so many good bits that I'm not sure which to highlight (but probably that the WH is holding conference calls with Debra Messing and she's pissed)
https://cnn.com/cnn/2022/07/05/politics/democrats-frustrated-biden-lack-of-urgency-supreme-court-setbacks/index.html
Broken link.
Post by: delavan on July 05, 2022, 02:21:58 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/05/politics/democrats-frustrated-biden-lack-of-urgency-supreme-court-setbacks/index.html
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 05, 2022, 04:26:21 PM
Post by: Badger on July 06, 2022, 06:31:46 AM
Broken link.That's what I get for manually trying to de-amp a link.
Post by: delavan on July 06, 2022, 12:47:01 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 06, 2022, 06:01:37 PM
This one has so many good bits that I'm not sure which to highlight (but probably that the WH is holding conference calls with Debra Messing and she's pissed)
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/05/politics/democrats-frustrated-biden-lack-of-urgency-supreme-court-setbacks/index.html
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Messing said she'd gotten Joe Biden elected and wanted to know why she was being asked to do anything at all, yelling that there didn't even seem a point to voting.
Woke AF
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 08, 2022, 12:08:23 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on July 08, 2022, 08:26:50 PM
What a freaking potato.
Post by: Badger on July 09, 2022, 05:54:06 PM
https://twitter.com/jordanzakarin/status/1545876493263323136?t=7V1dN2Roo3M7YbuNAiVtjg&s=19
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 11, 2022, 10:08:50 AM
Post by: MBGreen on July 11, 2022, 10:18:34 AM
Hunter Biden sure smokes and a lot of crack and bangs a lot of prosts
Living well is the best revenge
Post by: Badger on July 12, 2022, 06:48:36 AM
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1546680857003433984?t=qaW-6zugAjbpPQauo679Ew&s=19
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 12, 2022, 08:06:45 AM
Post by: mj2sexay on July 12, 2022, 09:57:26 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 12, 2022, 10:38:27 AM
Jill had an all time quote here but her pronunciation of bodegas is being completely swept under the rug
Post by: mj2sexay on July 12, 2022, 08:51:30 PM
https://twitter.com/realmacreport/status/1546584910026211330?s=21&t=srz5tZwEj9vixhGhZWooSA
Jill had an all time quote here but her pronunciation of bodegas is being completely swept under the rug
That's DOCTOR Jill to you, pleb.
Post by: Badger on July 13, 2022, 06:54:41 AM
https://twitter.com/realmacreport/status/1546584910026211330?s=21&t=srz5tZwEj9vixhGhZWooSAThat caused me physical pain.
Jill had an all time quote here but her pronunciation of bodegas is being completely swept under the rug
Post by: delavan on July 13, 2022, 10:30:53 AM
That's DOCTOR Jill to you, pleb.https://tacodoctors.com
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 13, 2022, 12:22:37 PM
https://twitter.com/realmacreport/status/1546584910026211330?s=21&t=srz5tZwEj9vixhGhZWooSA
Jill had an all time quote here but her pronunciation of bodegas is being completely swept under the rug
She is just not good with Spanish.
Post by: delavan on July 13, 2022, 03:17:13 PM
https://www.si.com/wnba/2022/07/05/brittney-griner-wnba-coach-russia-detainment-lebron-james
I get what the coach was saying, her incongruity aside (psst coach: lebron's also black)
Post by: Badger on July 19, 2022, 04:28:11 PM
https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/1549440558480891906?t=8nSkvt5VT1k5mDADywAAJQ&s=19
Post by: delavan on July 19, 2022, 08:50:58 PM
^ +1
https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/1549440558480891906?t=8nSkvt5VT1k5mDADywAAJQ&s=19
Like Kinky Friedman correctly observed in support of gay marriage: "I believe they have the right to be as miserable as the rest of us."
Post by: delavan on July 21, 2022, 11:07:47 AM
Post by: mj2sexay on July 21, 2022, 12:34:22 PM
CNN if instead of the old codger it was Blumpf.
Post by: Badger on July 21, 2022, 12:58:36 PM
"How many people did Joe kill by not wearing a mask yesterday?!"Not nearly as many as he's killed by continuing the US's lackluster response.
CNN if instead of the old codger it was Blumpf.
Post by: Badger on July 21, 2022, 02:18:21 PM
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1550149689110036480?t=AM_Y3IBn85-5H9gYL5NX7A&s=19
Post by: Badger on July 21, 2022, 08:29:06 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/21/biden-covid-positive-diagnosis-a-teaching-moment/
Quote
Getting the coronavirus should not come with stigma or be perceived as a failure; rather, it should reflect the new normal going forward. Indeed, this is almost certainly not the only time Biden will get the coronavirus. He, like the rest of us, could contract the virus once a year or more.
Post by: delavan on July 22, 2022, 02:43:08 PM
I hate these people.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/21/biden-covid-positive-diagnosis-a-teaching-moment/
Why?
According to the WAPO columnist this represents "a teaching moment for the country" and that "these are important lessons for all Americans." Ha-talk about 'fourth estate proselytizing' ... and o/b/o to boot.....
Thank you WAPO, and thank you Joe - lesson learned.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 26, 2022, 12:26:22 PM
Post by: Badger on July 27, 2022, 11:26:34 AM
https://twitter.com/potus/status/1551979446621638657?s=21&t=sK2SlwlZMwNfj8DVi2c_jwWho is this for? I think the only people receptive to this messaging are the weird handful of people who were excited to vote for Biden and think he's doing a good job.
Post by: mj2sexay on July 27, 2022, 03:13:47 PM
Post by: delavan on July 27, 2022, 03:28:47 PM
Is this dumb freaking oaf really going to release Viktor Bout?We are BG!
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Post by: Johnny English on July 27, 2022, 05:20:34 PM
Is this dumb freaking oaf really going to release Viktor Bout?I think that prisoner exchanges always end up looking bad on the country that hasn't locked up a famous person on stupid and spurious charges. I doubt there's a Russian in a US jail you could send who would be acceptable to Putin and the US public.
Can you not just find a bullshit excuse to lock up his rooster slobbering sycophant Ovechkin and then trade him for Griner?
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 27, 2022, 07:25:10 PM
I think that prisoner exchanges always end up looking bad on the country that hasn't locked up a famous person on stupid and spurious charges. I doubt there's a Russian in a US jail you could send who would be acceptable to Putin and the US public.
Can you not just find a bullshit excuse to lock up his rooster slobbering sycophant Ovechkin and then trade him for Griner?
I'm all for whatever pisses off Caps fans.
Post by: delavan on July 30, 2022, 04:57:33 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/30/biden-tests-positive-for-covid-again-will-restart-isolation-despite-no-new-symptoms.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh24BCnU4-A
Post by: Badger on August 01, 2022, 10:31:30 AM
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1553760943166951427?t=EzMruHrCv6LZYUZW7AY5Vw&s=19
Post by: delavan on August 01, 2022, 11:27:45 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 03, 2022, 02:35:59 PM
These type of threads are always a good read
Post by: delavan on August 03, 2022, 02:49:16 PM
https://twitter.com/robreiner/status/1554829620209364994?s=21&t=xdYGQHfWB-a0rd1Db1WSBgbrains not inc..
These type of threads are always a good read
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Post by: mj2sexay on August 03, 2022, 02:49:39 PM
https://twitter.com/robreiner/status/1554829620209364994?s=21&t=xdYGQHfWB-a0rd1Db1WSBg
These type of threads are always a good read
Cultists.
Post by: Johnny English on August 03, 2022, 05:47:11 PM
Cultists.Thus proving that Americans do get irony.
Post by: mj2sexay on August 04, 2022, 11:58:13 AM
Thus proving that Americans do get irony.
The self-projection behind that insult has been what it is for the last four or so years.
Anyway, Biden yesterday comes out with a doozy on how the middle class won't have their taxes raised because of the Inflation Reduction Act, a claim that is demonstratively not true.
Daniel Dale?!?! WaPo's fact checkers? Snopes!??! Where are youuuu?!
Post by: Johnny English on August 04, 2022, 12:28:53 PM
The self-projection behind that insult has been what it is for the last four or so years.
It's not an insult, it's laughing at the idea that Trump supporters can accuse others of being cultists. It doesn't mean you're wrong, it's just ironic that you would do it.
Post by: delavan on August 04, 2022, 04:39:13 PM
Cultists.
Thus proving that Americans do get irony.
Quote from: mj2sexay
The self-projection behind that insult has been what it is for the last four or so years.
It's not an insult, it's laughing at the idea that Trump supporters can accuse others of being cultists. It doesn't mean you're wrong, it's just ironic that you would do it.
sorry to interrupt this semantical tete-a-tete....getting back to rob 'shout it from the rooftops!' reiner:
if you took a shitload of
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add
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then add
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you should end up with
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Post by: reuben on August 04, 2022, 05:00:51 PM
Post by: klaximilian on August 04, 2022, 05:31:22 PM
JB is nothing short of a hot mess and quite possibly the worst US president in history.
T'is all, carry on with this nonsense.
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 04, 2022, 06:21:28 PM
Post by: reuben on August 04, 2022, 06:34:27 PM
quite possibly the worst US president in history.
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Post by: CatoTheElder on August 04, 2022, 08:18:49 PM
Post by: Badger on August 06, 2022, 03:05:31 PM
Thread title needs to be renamed "LOL Biden."Based on him and the last guy, people love voting for senile pieces of excrement apparently.
JB is nothing short of a hot mess and quite possibly the worst US president in history.
T'is all, carry on with this nonsense.
Post by: Badger on August 06, 2022, 05:11:46 PM
Anyway, Biden yesterday comes out with a doozy on how the middle class won't have their taxes raised because of the Inflation Reduction Act, a claim that is demonstratively not true.
Middle class is $400,000/year?
Either that, or we're talking about corporations passing the cost of their tax increase on to their employees and customers and can't tell who the bad actor is in that scenario.
Post by: mj2sexay on August 06, 2022, 06:27:44 PM
Middle class is $400,000/year?
Wait, is it your assertion that this legislation won't result in people making less than 400k a year paying more in tax?
Because that's 100 percent not true. Something something democracy dies in darkness, 80 jillion fafillion lies in office.
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 06, 2022, 06:40:22 PM
Either that, or we're talking about corporations passing the cost of their tax increase on to their employees and customers and can't tell who the bad actor is in that scenario.
That I can see.
Post by: mj2sexay on August 09, 2022, 06:00:06 PM
There's no, 'we'd have" it actually happened.
Post by: Johnny English on August 09, 2022, 06:20:41 PM
https://twitter.com/MidnightMitch/status/1556469690200907776
There's no, 'we'd have" it actually happened.
Well yeah, because the Republican Party is the one that the actual fascists vote for, if they vote. I don't think there's really any sensible suggestion that the Tiki Boys are switching to Team Brandon if he sends them the right coded signals, is there?
Post by: mj2sexay on August 09, 2022, 10:15:45 PM
Well yeah, because the Republican Party is the one that the actual fascists vote for, if they vote. I don't think there's really any sensible suggestion that the Tiki Boys are switching to Team Brandon if he sends them the right coded signals, is there?
Lol
Post by: delavan on August 10, 2022, 01:19:15 PM
Well yeah, because the Republican Party is the oneMeasured, reasoned. Nicely played.
that the actual fascists vote for, if they vote.
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Post by: Johnny English on August 10, 2022, 01:22:58 PM
Measured, reasoned. Nicely played.I think that to anyone possessed of an ability and willingness to see simple facts, there's not much argument. Not all conservative voters are fascists, but all fascist who vote, vote for conservatives.
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Post by: delavan on August 10, 2022, 02:39:20 PM
I think that to anyone possessed of an ability and willingness to see simple facts,'uppity the ante' - love it. :)
there's not much argument. Not all conservative voters are fascists, but
all fascist who vote, vote for conservatives.
Very dryly yours,
Leonard Nimoy-as-Spock
"ALL?" You're drawing a conclusion not based on any facts in evidence, i.e. you're saying there aren't any 'state-friendly' liberals with an authoritarian bent? As much of a jackass I thought GWB was, the "liberally-applied" Nazi sobriquet given to him did give me pause (read: projection)...
"Insufficient facts Always invite danger"
"Without followers, evil cannot spread"
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Post by: Badger on August 10, 2022, 03:22:25 PM
Post by: delavan on August 10, 2022, 03:37:24 PM
Is all authoritarianism fascism? The latter word has become so muddled and watered down in common parlance that I just avoid using it.Spot on B - it has become so muddled and watered down just like the 'r' word, the 'nazi/ pejorative, etc., my point being that neither side can honestly lay claim to hyperbolic projection.
Post by: klaximilian on August 10, 2022, 04:23:52 PM
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I see your argument and raise you.
.......
I win. Try harder next time.
Post by: Johnny English on August 10, 2022, 04:24:36 PM
Spot on B - it has become so muddled and watered down just like the 'r' word, the 'nazi/ pejorative, etc., my point being that neither side can honestly lay claim to hyperbolic projection.
Except you're the one who introduced the concept of authoritarianism to the conversation. I was talking about fascists because I was responding to the comment about Nazi symbology, and I don't think we're really having a debate about "well were the Nazis really fascists or just authoritarians and are the pinkos overreacting to them", are we?
Post by: delavan on August 10, 2022, 04:52:14 PM
Except you're the one who introduced the concept of authoritarianism to the conversation. I was talking about fascists becauseUnderstood. I jumped the gun and wasn't looking at it under the nazi bird-looking symbolism premise - mea culpa. Put simply, I was maintaining that there are control freaks of both stripes. Again, false start, lane 'moi' ...
I was responding to the comment about Nazi symbology,
and I don't think we're really having a debate about "well were the Nazis really fascists or just authoritarians and are the pinkos overreacting to them", are we?
Post by: Badger on August 22, 2022, 02:02:59 PM
https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1561724464949248002?t=U8JaZj5oOB8Z5BXq1O07Vw&s=19
Post by: MBGreen on August 22, 2022, 02:12:15 PM
Biden is FINISHED
https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1561724464949248002?t=U8JaZj5oOB8Z5BXq1O07Vw&s=19
It's catchy
Post by: delavan on August 22, 2022, 05:34:52 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on August 22, 2022, 06:40:38 PM
I think that to anyone possessed of an ability and willingness to see simple facts, there's not much argument. Not all conservative voters are fascists, but all fascist who vote, vote for conservatives.
LOL
Post by: delavan on August 22, 2022, 10:11:26 PM
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1561844359947075584?cxt=HHwWgIC-0fPK5KwrAAAA
Post by: Badger on August 24, 2022, 08:01:05 AM
https://twitter.com/harveyjkaye/status/1562415627137994752?t=-fADrtGCQpt5ReZzpSurmQ&s=19
Post by: Badger on August 24, 2022, 09:31:34 AM
Post by: dcm1602 on August 24, 2022, 10:59:25 AM
I'm sure more welfare is soon to come
Post by: Badger on August 24, 2022, 12:38:08 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/24/biden-expected-to-cancel-10000-in-federal-student-loan-debt-for-most-borrowers.htmlNo, they're just gonna pretend this was an amazing life-changing gift for everyone and milk it through the midterms, while conservatives wail and gnash their teeth about soshulisms.
I'm sure more welfare is soon to come
Of course it does set a precedent proving that the president absolutely has the power to do this and more, which is something. But if it took this shitty administration a year and half of hemming and hawing to sprinkle some crumbs of relief for student debtors it's very unlikely they're going to do much more about it.
Post by: delavan on August 24, 2022, 02:19:28 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/24/biden-expected-to-cancel-10000-in-federal-student-loan-debt-for-most-borrowers.htmlwelfare, shmelfare..
I'm sure more welfare is soon to come
$10k relief?...a mere drop in the bucket. Instead, up the bailout to $50k, and with the 50k discretionary clout listen to Energy Sec. Jenny Teslaholm and "buy the models that are lower...more affordable" ....see how the dots are connected? .....talk about an inflation-fighting, green-riding win-win... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkuoT_ReBOU
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......pffff .....you're yesterday's news you working stiff slob....
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Post by: Badger on August 30, 2022, 12:20:40 AM
https://twitter.com/AndrewDesiderio/status/1564389750051667969?t=GihKLbVDpDhaRUe-CbmrvA&s=19
Post by: delavan on August 30, 2022, 10:46:56 AM
Very stupid
https://twitter.com/AndrewDesiderio/status/1564389750051667969?t=GihKLbVDpDhaRUe-CbmrvA&s=19
Arms dealer
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Post by: mj2sexay on September 01, 2022, 07:45:41 PM
Remember when this dilapidated old potato ran on "unifying the nation."
Unlike so many from 2016-2020, I'll work very hard to not re-direct my ire at his supporters as opposed to the man himself, but honestly, what an absolute piece of excrement.
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 01, 2022, 10:24:49 PM
Post by: delavan on September 01, 2022, 11:05:56 PM
what an absolute disgrace of an "address."
Remember when this dilapidated old potato ran on "unifying the nation."
Unlike so many from 2016-2020, I'll work very hard to not re-direct my ire at his supporters as opposed to the man himself, but honestly, what an absolute piece of excrement.
Two things:
1. Tonight there were more NCAA football games than you could shake a stick at (Pitt-W.Va. for starters).
2. Press Sec. Jean-Pierre previously maintained that it was nOt gOiNg to bE a pOlItIcAL speeCh anyway
Post by: mj2sexay on September 03, 2022, 03:15:38 PM
https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1565837084002160641
Post by: Badger on September 03, 2022, 05:31:52 PM
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Post by: CatoTheElder on September 03, 2022, 07:33:44 PM
Yeah this was a bit extreme
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Wait, let's hear him out. For science.
Post by: delavan on September 04, 2022, 02:52:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZGMKGa02EA
Post by: Badger on September 05, 2022, 01:02:12 PM
I get that MeidasTouch is similar to mediamatters in that its totally low hanging fruit and fodder for idiots but still LMAO.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220905/7a9057dbfda0f958459d7e5c7ccb81b4.jpg)
https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1565837084002160641
Post by: delavan on September 05, 2022, 02:05:37 PM
@InternetHippo in the know for the Joe show
Post by: Johnny English on September 05, 2022, 02:18:45 PM
Post by: Badger on September 06, 2022, 07:06:54 AM
TBF it's not just a Republican thing to consider a Democratic POTUS to be simultaneously an ignorant or senile duffer who needs 20 minutes and clear instructions in order to tie his shoe laces, while also being a machiavellian lord of darkness enacting an evil plan to destroy all that is good and holy. Dubya got the same treatment.
To be fair I think there was some delineation there, that Bush himself was a bumbling idiot yet the Bush administration as a whole was the latter.
Which I suppose is a model the current opposition would subscribe to as well, at least not the #PedoHitler crowd.
The thing with Bush is all the liberals with big platforms who, since the rise of Trump, now love to bring up W as a paragon of class and respectability (as they also did with McCain and Romney to varying extents).
Post by: delavan on September 06, 2022, 01:24:39 PM
Post by: delavan on September 13, 2022, 06:24:01 PM
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/13/the-future-of-america-is-bright-biden-celebrates-inflation-reduction-act-00056513
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/13/us/politics/biden-inflation-report-economy.html
Post by: mj2sexay on September 13, 2022, 06:26:28 PM
Thank you Joe! Oh and thank you members of the fourth estate for consistently towing the line .....
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/13/the-future-of-america-is-bright-biden-celebrates-inflation-reduction-act-00056513
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/13/us/politics/biden-inflation-report-economy.html
Amazing how all those "fact checkers" are dead silent, but democracy dies in darkness said that revolting twink daniel dale, or some excrement .
Post by: delavan on September 13, 2022, 06:53:45 PM
Amazing how all those "fact checkers" are dead silent, but democracy dies in darkness said that revolting twink daniel dale, or some excrement .
Biden (as was/is the case with Trump) is a self-serving, lying bag of detritus; my point being that I despise partisan elements in the fourth estate who audaciously carry water for these weasels either in the form of a. spin doctoring or b. deliberately choosing not to cover a story.
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2022, 07:57:49 PM
https://twitter.com/KnowS0mething/status/1569917536682086400?t=6SY4Ci2bGif1xKHkkKKqJw&s=19 (https://twitter.com/KnowS0mething/status/1569917536682086400?t=6SY4Ci2bGif1xKHkkKKqJw&s=19)
Post by: Badger on September 20, 2022, 09:23:55 AM
https://twitter.com/AlexThomp/status/1572226534735224832?t=s_m5kxUOLYPpnUtk2luzRw&s=19
Post by: delavan on September 20, 2022, 01:26:36 PM
Post by: delavan on September 28, 2022, 04:32:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HAkdIzADsQ
Quote
Joe Biden calls on Rep. Jackie Walorski (R-IN) who has been dead for a month. She died in a car accident in August.
Biden released a statement at the time of the crash saying he was 'shocked and saddened' by Walorski's death.
'Jill and I are shocked and saddened by the death of Congresswoman Jackie Walorski of Indiana along with two members of her staff in a car accident today in Indiana,' it read.
Post by: mj2sexay on September 28, 2022, 07:27:03 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 06, 2022, 02:43:47 PM
It's a very low bar, and he still has plenty of time to completely fumble the execution, but this might be the best thing he's done so far.
Post by: Badger on October 06, 2022, 03:02:29 PM
Post by: Johnny English on October 06, 2022, 03:37:23 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 06, 2022, 04:47:17 PM
Post by: delavan on October 06, 2022, 05:23:38 PM
Quote from: Johnny English
Breaking news: Biden wants to get your children hooked on fentanyl and heroin.
Vlad loves dogs
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Jet fans love dogs
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Jet fans love the Kremlin
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Post by: Johnny English on October 06, 2022, 07:56:36 PM
Post by: delavan on October 07, 2022, 10:55:30 AM
Post by: delavan on October 13, 2022, 03:09:50 PM
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/29/supreme-court-migrant-protection-protocols-remain-mexico-biden/
gone
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/09/remain-in-mexico-migrant-protection-protocols-judge-injunction/
....um, maybe.....
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/10/15/remain-in-mexico-migrant-protocols-biden-border/
#joeybommerang
Post by: mj2sexay on October 24, 2022, 03:15:41 PM
In the same interview, essentially says States shouldn't ban giving prepubescent children puberty blockers.
Good stuff.
Post by: mj2sexay on October 27, 2022, 08:38:54 PM
Propagandist piece of excrement lowlife twink Daniel Dale, where are you??!!?!?!?! DEMOCRACY DIES IN DARKNESS.
Post by: Badger on October 27, 2022, 08:46:16 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 27, 2022, 08:48:32 PM
Big Fax
Post by: mj2sexay on October 27, 2022, 09:12:16 PM
Shell has reported profits of $9.5B for Q3 2022 compared to $4.1B for Q3 2021. Why would Brandon do this?!
How was Trump so good at assuaging corporate greed?!?!?!
Post by: mj2sexay on October 27, 2022, 09:13:38 PM
https://twitter.com/wpbf_yianni/status/1585638594680496130?s=10&t=-8WIgVcJ9741rsq2D60ryw
Big Fax
Just one of the many things 45 can do (enact policies that lead to economic growth, speak in coherent sentences at least some of the time) that the current demented old bat in the oval office can't.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 27, 2022, 09:42:58 PM
Just one of the many things 45 can do (enact policies that lead to economic growth, speak in coherent sentences at least some of the time) that the current demented old bat in the oval office can't.
I’ve never seen him ride a bike
Post by: delavan on November 22, 2022, 04:46:43 PM
I’ve never seen him ride a bikeBet Dr. Jill has
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Vintage_Bike_-_red_box.jpg/320px-Vintage_Bike_-_red_box.jpg)
Only 2 yrs. ago he reached out to Kamala "I was that girl" and now he's being advised by some in the 'southpaw ranks' to push her away?
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/11/kamala-harris-joe-biden-new-vp-2024.html
Post by: Badger on November 22, 2022, 04:48:46 PM
Post by: Badger on November 28, 2022, 06:33:54 PM
https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1597365372088614912?s=19
Post by: mj2sexay on December 08, 2022, 08:10:50 AM
What a freaking joke. I wish this freaking potato was in my fantasy leagues.
Post by: Johnny English on December 08, 2022, 08:21:48 AM
Brittany Griner for Viktor Bout. Without even getting back Paul Whelan.
What a freaking joke. I wish this freaking potato was in my fantasy leagues.
I looked Mr Whelan up.
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According to a deposition Whelan gave in 2013, he was in law enforcement from 1988 to 2000 as a police officer in Chelsea, Michigan, and a sheriff's deputy in Washtenaw County.[7] The Chelsea Police however said he worked in lesser roles and as a part-time officer from 1990 to 1996, while the Washtenaw County sheriff reported no record of his employment.[7] A former colleague said he was a patrol officer from 1998 to 2000 in the Keego Harbor police department.[7]
He was an IT manager for the Kelly Services staffing company from 2001[8] to 2003, and then 2008 to 2010. From 2010 to 2016 Whelan was Kelly Services' senior manager of global security and operations.[8]
He enlisted in the Marine Corps Reserve in 1994.[7] He took military leave from Kelly Services to serve with the Marine Corps Reserve from 2003 to 2008, including service in Iraq. He held the rank of staff sergeant with Marine Air Control Group 38 working as an administrative clerk and administrative chief, and he was part of Operation Iraqi Freedom.[8] After a court-martial conviction in January 2008 on multiple counts "related to larceny", he was sentenced to 60 days restriction, reduction to pay grade E-4, and a bad conduct discharge.[9][10] The specific charges against him included attempting to steal more than $10,000 in 2006 in Iraq and using a false Social Security number to create a false account on a government computer system to grade his own examinations.[11]
When arrested in Russia, Whelan was director of global security and investigations for BorgWarner, an international automotive parts manufacturer based in Michigan.[8] His work with Kelly Services and BorgWarner gave Whelan contacts with law enforcement in many countries.[citation needed]
Whelan traveled to Russia several times from 2006 and maintained an intermittent presence on a Russian language social media website, Vkontakte (VK), where he had approximately 70 contacts. He has studied Russian but communicated online using Google Translate.[12][3] Whelan supported US President Donald Trump and, after Trump's 2016 election victory, Whelan posted in Russian Президент Трамп Вперед!! (President Trump Onward!!).[13][a]
He said in a deposition in 2013 that he holds a bachelor's degree in criminal justice and an MBA degree.[14] He took courses at Northern Michigan University from fall 1988 to fall 1990 without earning a degree.[12]
He sounds like a real gem. I can't imagine why the US Government wasn't falling over themselves to get him back.
Post by: delavan on December 08, 2022, 09:58:42 AM
I looked Mr Whelan up.
He sounds like a real gem. I can't imagine why the US Government wasn't falling over themselves to get him back.
Whelan supported US President Donald Trump and, after Trump's 2016 election victory, Whelan posted in Russian Президент Трамп Вперед!! (President Trump Onward!!
Whelan stew recipe (cont.):
After the Griner exchange boils over, lower heat and simmer for another 20 years or until dead. Serve cold.
edit:
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https://youtu.be/K0siYUjV9UM
Post by: mj2sexay on December 08, 2022, 11:19:09 AM
I looked Mr Whelan up.
He sounds like a real gem. I can't imagine why the US Government wasn't falling over themselves to get him back.
You did a wikipedia search. But assume that's all true. That means he should be detained indefinitely on trumped up charges by the Russians?
I can't stand Brittany Griners stupidity and ignorance when it comes to her political worldview-that has absolutely nothing to do with the folly of exchanging arms dealers for her release. Wouldn't matter if she was a saint, or the biggest conservative on the planet.
This is a disgrace.
Post by: dcm1602 on December 08, 2022, 11:38:10 AM
You did a wikipedia search. But assume that's all true. That means he should be detained indefinitely on trumped up charges by the Russians?
I can't stand Brittany Griners stupidity and ignorance when it comes to her political worldview-that has absolutely nothing to do with the folly of exchanging arms dealers for her release. Wouldn't matter if she was a saint, or the biggest conservative on the planet.
This is a disgrace.
Obviously neither of these people deserved to rot in a freaking Russian prison. But if you look at the way that George Floyd was made out to be a freaking folk hero despite his history, vs this guy (which not stated but suggested thats he's a piece of excrement)
I know the argument will be that Floyd was killed, but I'm pretty sure spending 16 years as an American/Canadian whatever the freak this guy is in a Russian work camp prison is probably worse than death
Post by: steves850 on December 08, 2022, 11:45:16 AM
Obviously neither of these people deserved to rot in a freaking Russian prison. But if you look at the way that George Floyd was made out to be a freaking folk hero despite his history, vs this guy (which not stated but suggested thats he's a piece of excrement)What the actual freak does George Floyd have to do with anything?
I know the argument will be that Floyd was killed, but I'm pretty sure spending 16 years as an American/Canadian whatever the freak this guy is in a Russian work camp prison is probably worse than death
Based on your history it doesn’t matter what Biden did to get her home you’d find something to criticize. No one in this Jets forum was involved in the negotiations so we don’t know what our measure of success is. This other prisoner could have been a non starter. He could have been in play for a release but things fell apart. Or negotiations could be ongoing.
We don’t fuckin know. You count your victories and you continue to fight. Or in your case, you count other people’s Ls and have uninformed arguments online.
Post by: dcm1602 on December 08, 2022, 12:11:07 PM
What the actual freak does George Floyd have to do with anything?
Based on your history it doesn’t matter what Biden did to get her home you’d find something to criticize. No one in this Jets forum was involved in the negotiations so we don’t know what our measure of success is. This other prisoner could have been a non starter. He could have been in play for a release but things fell apart. Or negotiations could be ongoing.
We don’t fuckin know. You count your victories and you continue to fight. Or in your case, you count other people’s Ls and have uninformed arguments online.
I literally didn't say anything about Biden. Honestly I don't talk about Biden much in general, even when I do talk about political things on here. He's more sad, than a lightning rod for anger.
My point was JE had decided to point out that this guy wasn't an outstanding citizen (seemingly as if it's no big loss that this guy's unjustly going to Russian prison for 16 years). But when anyone pointed out George Floyds far more serious character flaws, they were a terrible person.
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 08, 2022, 12:22:03 PM
Post by: Johnny English on December 08, 2022, 12:23:01 PM
You did a wikipedia search. But assume that's all true. That means he should be detained indefinitely on trumped up charges by the Russians?
I can't stand Brittany Griners stupidity and ignorance when it comes to her political worldview-that has absolutely nothing to do with the folly of exchanging arms dealers for her release. Wouldn't matter if she was a saint, or the biggest conservative on the planet.
This is a disgrace.
I have no idea whether the charges against Whelan are trumped up or not, and I think that Wikipedia and subsequently me quoting his political views is unhelpful as it's irrelevant to the point I was making.
I'm already on record as not having a huge amount of sympathy for Griner because what she did is a crime in literally every single country in the world, you are not allowed to transport restricted substances across international borders regardless of whether they're legal on one side of the border or the other (in this case they were illegal on both). I haven't really looked into the details of the trade because on the list of things I care about it's not very high, but I will agree that someone convicted of selling arms to terrorists and rogue states doesn't seem like the kind of individual we want to be releasing back into the wild no matter how good the other person's mid range jumper is. You're the one who introduced Whelan though, like adding him into the mix would suddenly make it all fine.
From the absolutely minimal investigation I've done, I'd be quite happy to leave them all right where they were. I don't think Trump should have intervened with the rapper in Sweden either, I think that barring absolute miscarriages of justice your home country should have little or no responsibility to try and get your derriere out of prison when you freak up in someone else's country and deliberately break their laws.
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 08, 2022, 12:30:44 PM
I have no idea whether the charges against Whelan are trumped up or not, and I think that Wikipedia and subsequently me quoting his political views is unhelpful as it's irrelevant to the point I was making.I think freeing what we consider a wrongfully detained US citizen is a great thing and it's hard to put a price on that. But giving up Bout is a big price.
I'm already on record as not having a huge amount of sympathy for Griner because what she did is a crime in literally every single country in the world, you are not allowed to transport restricted substances across international borders regardless of whether they're legal on one side of the border or the other (in this case they were illegal on both). I haven't really looked into the details of the trade because on the list of things I care about it's not very high, but I will agree that someone convicted of selling arms to terrorists and rogue states doesn't seem like the kind of individual we want to be releasing back into the wild no matter how good the other person's mid range jumper is. You're the one who introduced Whelan though, like adding him into the mix would suddenly make it all fine.
From the absolutely minimal investigation I've done, I'd be quite happy to leave them all right where they were. I don't think Trump should have intervened with the rapper in Sweden either, I think that barring absolute miscarriages of justice your home country should have little or no responsibility to try and get your derriere out of prison when you freak up in someone else's country and deliberately break their laws.
Post by: Johnny English on December 08, 2022, 12:40:25 PM
I think freeing what we consider a wrongfully detained US citizen is a great thing and it's hard to put a price on that. But giving up Bout is a big price.
Why was she wrongfully detained? She attempted to transport a controlled substance across international borders. I'm fairly sure that the US doesn't give foreign nationals a stern talking to and a "be on your way" when they catch them doing that.
Post by: steves850 on December 08, 2022, 12:41:35 PM
Why was she wrongfully detained? She attempted to transport a controlled substance across international borders. I'm fairly sure that the US doesn't give foreign nationals a stern talking to and a "be on your way" when they catch them doing that.
I think Derek's point is the punishment didn't fit the crime. Unjustly detained?
She is a fuckin moron for breaking the law but shouldn't be sent off to the gulag.
Post by: Johnny English on December 08, 2022, 12:45:04 PM
I think Derek's point is the punishment didn't fit the crime. Unjustly detained?I have some sympathy with that argument, but it's somewhat weaker coming from the US Government given their track record of doing the same thing.
She is a fuckin moron for breaking the law but shouldn't be sent off to the gulag.
"Hey Putin, what are you doing locking up our young black people for long periods for minor drugs offenses? That's our job."
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 08, 2022, 01:01:11 PM
Why was she wrongfully detained? She attempted to transport a controlled substance across international borders. I'm fairly sure that the US doesn't give foreign nationals a stern talking to and a "be on your way" when they catch them doing that.USA classified her as wrongfully detained. They never specified why. Maybe it was to build leverage for bringing her back. Maybe it's because they think Russia either planted something or went out of its way to treat her badly (likely to get a deal back for another prisoner). We don't know.
Post by: bojanglesman on December 08, 2022, 01:17:48 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 08, 2022, 01:26:28 PM
You did a wikipedia search. But assume that's all true. That means he should be detained indefinitely on trumped up charges by the Russians?
I can't stand Brittany Griners stupidity and ignorance when it comes to her political worldview-that has absolutely nothing to do with the folly of exchanging arms dealers for her release. Wouldn't matter if she was a saint, or the biggest conservative on the planet.
This is a disgrace.
There was never going to be a prisoner exchange that would have satisfied bringing over Grinner or Whelan for the Russians that also looked equitable to the American public. Russia isn't holding any high-level US prisoners with similar convictions and we're not holding anyone with similar convictions to Grinner or Whelan that they want back.
Post by: mj2sexay on December 08, 2022, 01:58:32 PM
There was never going to be a prisoner exchange that would have satisfied bringing over Grinner or Whelan for the Russians that also looked equitable to the American public. Russia isn't holding any high-level US prisoners with similar convictions and we're not holding anyone with similar convictions to Grinner or Whelan that they want back.
Then don't do it.
There is no way that the United States government is ever sending a convicted arms dealer/war criminal for a regular citizen. Why does Griner get special treatment? Because she can dribble a basketball?
Theoretically, no one should be in jail for charges related to cannabis. Someone should tell that to the President and Vice President considering their domestic role in ensuring people did/do go to jail for said plant. Why is Griner's case different?
She went to a foreign country, intending to profit off of their money, carrying something that was illegal under their laws. Backward and archaic as I find that entire pooper to be, it's still their laws. Her stupidity had to result in us freeing someone that armed terrorist groups and conspired to kill our soldiers?
I'd be making the same points and having the same issue if this was done under Trump, or any other administration. This is a massive L.
Post by: dcm1602 on December 08, 2022, 03:32:54 PM
Why was she wrongfully detained? She attempted to transport a controlled substance across international borders. I'm fairly sure that the US doesn't give foreign nationals a stern talking to and a "be on your way" when they catch them doing that.
Ehhh let's be honest everything the US does in our legal and immigration system is absolutely fucked. We lock people up excessively long for nonsense, and we have dangerous people we let walk or get slaps on the wrist. The US judicial system is an absolute freaking diasaster
Post by: MBGreen on December 08, 2022, 05:44:11 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 08, 2022, 10:21:48 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 10, 2022, 11:23:41 PM
Then don't do it.
There is no way that the United States government is ever sending a convicted arms dealer/war criminal for a regular citizen. Why does Griner get special treatment? Because she can dribble a basketball?
Theoretically, no one should be in jail for charges related to cannabis. Someone should tell that to the President and Vice President considering their domestic role in ensuring people did/do go to jail for said plant. Why is Griner's case different?
She went to a foreign country, intending to profit off of their money, carrying something that was illegal under their laws. Backward and archaic as I find that entire pooper to be, it's still their laws. Her stupidity had to result in us freeing someone that armed terrorist groups and conspired to kill our soldiers?
I'd be making the same points and having the same issue if this was done under Trump, or any other administration. This is a massive L.
Bout essentially got 6 years knocked off of his sentence. They didn’t release someone serving life with no parole.
Post by: delavan on December 11, 2022, 01:40:52 AM
Post by: Badger on December 11, 2022, 05:24:17 PM
Post by: Badger on December 14, 2022, 12:45:36 PM
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100083329502844&mibextid=ZbWKwL
Post by: delavan on December 16, 2022, 09:24:07 PM
We should go here on a tailgate weekend.Bring spray pain (and maybe some grain to feed the pilate livestock next door) https://pilatesbythebaynj.com
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100083329502844&mibextid=ZbWKwL
Back to Prezjoe
https://www.leftvoice.org/biden-shores-up-imperialist-interests-at-u-s-africa-leaders-summit/
Post by: Johnny English on December 19, 2022, 08:40:35 AM
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/19/1142790156/people-homelessness-crisis-housing-prevention-biden
Conservatives will scream about socialists using tax dollars to support people living beyond their means, actual socialists will complain about tax dollars being used to pay corporate rent prices rather than enacting rent control legislation. Both sides agree that this is a terrible thing and more proof of how awful this administration is, and all the while a bunch of people who would have ended up on the streets get to stay in their homes.
Post by: reuben on December 26, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Get fucked geezer
Post by: delavan on December 26, 2022, 09:52:28 AM
Post by: Badger on December 26, 2022, 05:24:10 PM
(https://i.redd.it/y9erw0f7688a1.jpg)Extreme radical liberal progressive leftist communist Joe Biden
Get fucked geezer
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 06, 2023, 10:59:26 AM
Only noteworthy when Republicans do it, not a big deal
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 06, 2023, 11:11:57 AM
Post by: Badger on January 06, 2023, 04:49:56 PM
Post by: delavan on January 12, 2023, 02:00:12 PM
https://twitter.com/ReynaDorotea/status/1613544639415615489
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 12, 2023, 03:25:57 PM
https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/status/1613538797697875968
https://twitter.com/ReynaDorotea/status/1613544639415615489
Original Tweet deleted by author.
Post by: Badger on January 12, 2023, 06:10:57 PM
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Post by: mj2sexay on January 12, 2023, 09:49:09 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 12, 2023, 10:58:55 PM
I guess no one cares about classified documents anymore!
Have you ever considered starting the conversation?
Post by: Badger on January 13, 2023, 06:12:48 AM
Post by: delavan on January 23, 2023, 02:13:23 PM
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Post by: delavan on January 23, 2023, 04:05:39 PM
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Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 30, 2023, 10:37:53 PM
Joe got dragged several times here
Post by: Badger on January 31, 2023, 06:18:38 AM
https://twitter.com/davidzipper/status/1620165707257499650?s=46&t=rAslETKLP_Q7NXejEmwEIwJE: "This would be even better if it was self-driving"
Joe got dragged several times here
Post by: Johnny English on January 31, 2023, 07:11:58 AM
JE: "This would be even better if it was self-driving"Compared to an 80 year old behind the wheel? Damn straight it would be.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 31, 2023, 11:15:16 AM
Why are the Republicans doing this to us
Post by: Badger on January 31, 2023, 01:29:50 PM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1620212562036985864?s=46&t=ncOnCS1rwl94pt4bLCePtwI can't believe sunglasses ice cream grandpa would do this.
Why are the Republicans doing this to us
Post by: delavan on January 31, 2023, 03:23:57 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/justice-department-denies-gop-request-biden-classified-docs-rcna68239
Post by: delavan on January 31, 2023, 04:43:29 PM
https://twitter.com/potus/status/1483444483140329479?lang=es
Whoopsie daily you lying, hyperbolic divisive piece of excrement
https://sos.ga.gov/news/university-georgia-poll-finds-99-georgia-voters-reported-no-issue-casting-ballot
How this self-claiming unifier has the consummate gall to refer to people as veritable members of the KKK....I don't care what your political ilk is and fwiw I'm not a republican but that (i.e. what the KKK actually represents) is beyond the pale.
Post by: Johnny English on January 31, 2023, 04:45:42 PM
Post by: Badger on January 31, 2023, 04:56:34 PM
Joe Biden: Georgia Voting 21st century Jim Crow 2.0I feel like the list of excrement wrong with Joe Biden is pretty long and takes a while to read before you get down to the line that says "being hyperbolic in order to advance voter protection legislation."
https://twitter.com/potus/status/1483444483140329479?lang=es
Whoopsie daily you lying, hyperbolic divisive piece of excrement
https://sos.ga.gov/news/university-georgia-poll-finds-99-georgia-voters-reported-no-issue-casting-ballot
How this self-claiming unifier has the consummate gall to refer to people as veritable members of the KKK....I don't care what your political ilk is and fwiw I'm not a republican but that (i.e. what the KKK actually represents) is beyond the pale.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 31, 2023, 05:10:27 PM
Joe Biden: Georgia Voting 21st century Jim Crow 2.0
https://twitter.com/potus/status/1483444483140329479?lang=es
Whoopsie daily you lying, hyperbolic divisive piece of excrement
https://sos.ga.gov/news/university-georgia-poll-finds-99-georgia-voters-reported-no-issue-casting-ballot
How this self-claiming unifier has the consummate gall to refer to people as veritable members of the KKK....I don't care what your political ilk is and fwiw I'm not a republican but that (i.e. what the KKK actually represents) is beyond the pale.
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The survey polled 1253 registered voters in Georgia who voted in the 2022 midterm election.
Seems like a small survey. Admittedly, I haven't paid a ton of attention to Georgia voting policies.
Post by: mj2sexay on January 31, 2023, 05:26:55 PM
Joe Biden: Georgia Voting 21st century Jim Crow 2.0
https://twitter.com/potus/status/1483444483140329479?lang=es
Whoopsie daily you lying, hyperbolic divisive piece of excrement
https://sos.ga.gov/news/university-georgia-poll-finds-99-georgia-voters-reported-no-issue-casting-ballot
How this self-claiming unifier has the consummate gall to refer to people as veritable members of the KKK....I don't care what your political ilk is and fwiw I'm not a republican but that (i.e. what the KKK actually represents) is beyond the pale.
Del don't you know? It's not a bad thing to blatantly lie about and label people racists for not wanting to support an absurd federal power grab/takeover of state elections, its actually actively encouraged.
Post by: delavan on January 31, 2023, 05:46:51 PM
I feel like you've fairly spectacularly missed the point there.Oh but of course.....sniff...snifff...
I feel like the list of excrement wrong with Joe Biden is pretty long and takes a while to read before you get down to the line that says "being hyperbolic in order to advance voter protection legislation."Have I offended somebody?....every(JO)body??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Have_I_Offended_Someone%3F#/media/File:Have_I_Offended_Someone.jpg
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Del don't you know? It's not a bad thing to blatantly lie about and label people racists for not wanting to support an absurd federal power grab/takeover of state elections, its actually actively encouraged.I dunno, I think you may've somewhat phenomenally missed the point...smile...
Post by: bojanglesman on January 31, 2023, 06:03:10 PM
Post by: delavan on January 31, 2023, 06:24:13 PM
^My career is in science, so every time I see a survey or a study, I assume it's bullshit and skewed one way or another. I don't have a bias one way or another in Georgia voter law. I don't live there nor do I even know what it is. But when you survey 1200 people out of several million voters, it isn't very scientific. I doubt it was intended to be some thorough evaluation of voter opinion.^ I totally get & respect your take. Imho the problem is the survey exposed Biden as a cynical race-baiting hypocrite via a calculated, reckless soundbite......Joe Biden, the suddenly evolved proressive who voted for a vulgar crime bill whose publicly stated purpose was geared towards 'super predators' but whose insidious target in fact was "them" (read: urban Blacks). The guy's a bumbling 24-carat bum. Joe Ersatz
Post by: Johnny English on January 31, 2023, 06:32:45 PM
Post by: Badger on February 02, 2023, 07:43:06 PM
A. Racist
B. Not racist
Post by: mj2sexay on February 02, 2023, 07:45:38 PM
Framing legislation as intentionally advancing policies that result in less people of a particular ethnic group voting, despite knowing that there's no truth to that assertion is?:
A. Race baiting
B. Not race baiting
FYP
Post by: Badger on February 02, 2023, 11:52:38 PM
“In the City of Milwaukee, with the 4th Congressional District Republican Party working very closely with the RPW, RNC, Republican Assembly & Senate Campaign Committees, Statewide Campaigns and RPMC in the Black and Hispanic areas, we can be especially proud of the City of Milwaukee (80.2% Dem Vote) casting 37,000 less votes than cast in the 2018 election with the major reduction happening in the overwhelming Black and Hispanic areas.”
A. Your boys forgot to tell this guy not to say that out loud
B. Ackshully he's a secret antifa
Post by: delavan on February 03, 2023, 12:59:25 AM
No Del, I think the point that you've missed is that you're confusing "voter suppression and election subversion" with election fraud.'No del' ...wasn't he the creator of Green Lantern? Anyway that's about the only 'no del' of worth here because for whatever reason it seems you're insisting that election fraud be conflated with voter suppression when I had only addressed Biden's accusatory voter suppression warnings vs. the findings of a post-election survey and not election fraud per se, e.g. someone screwing with the machines/ballots/counting. I'm not trying to be an obtuse pain in the derriere, I'm just asserting that the voter suppression component was being singularly addressed in my post.
Quote from: Badger
Republican Robert Spindell, member of the Wisconsin Elections Commission:On the face of it this creep comes across as Richard Spencer 2.0. The "just playing devil's advocate" argument would be that his comments aren't race-based so much as they were 'heavy democrat-stronghold' based. I'm not buying that but there is some nuance that would be best kicked around 'back and forth and back and forth' over a beer. Again, while he claims his target was 'opposition party stronghold' based I trust his word about as far as I could throw him. Bull Connor would approve of this ghoul's bullshit.
“In the City of Milwaukee, with the 4th Congressional District Republican Party working very closely with the RPW, RNC, Republican Assembly & Senate Campaign Committees, Statewide Campaigns and RPMC in the Black and Hispanic areas, we can be especially proud of the City of Milwaukee (80.2% Dem Vote) casting 37,000 less votes than cast in the 2018 election with the major reduction happening in the overwhelming Black and Hispanic areas.”
A. Your boys forgot to tell this guy not to say that out loud
B. Actully he's a secret antifa
https://pbswisconsin.org/news-item/wisconsin-elections-commission-member-robert-spindell-blasted-for-voting-comments/
Post by: delavan on February 04, 2023, 12:33:53 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/live-updates/china-spy-balloon/?id=96874279Way across the United States
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Post by: bojanglesman on February 04, 2023, 12:59:02 PM
Post by: MBGreen on February 04, 2023, 01:01:24 PM
Easy to judge that from afar. If they blew up that thing over land or over some other country and it went wrong, people would kill him for that too. I'll let people with more info than me decide what's best.Like Jerry Lee Lewis
Post by: bojanglesman on February 04, 2023, 01:09:23 PM
Like Jerry Lee LewisPedo balloon.
Post by: bojanglesman on February 04, 2023, 02:07:51 PM
Post by: delavan on February 04, 2023, 03:44:30 PM
Easy to judge that from afar. If they blew up that thing over land or over some other country and it went wrong, people would kill him for that too. I'll let people with more info than me decide what's best.Weaselcock. While safety is a concern national security should be even more so. They could've and should've nipped this in the bud BEFORE it was allowed to conduct intelligence gathering activities for the better part of an entire week over the continental United States (e.g. over the sparsely populated Aleutian Islands) and BEFORE it was allowed to send that gathered intelligence back to Beijing. Think about it: allowing a Chinese spy balloon to hover in United States airspace for days on end. Oh and the Chinese claimed it was a weather balloon? I call weaselcock.
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Like Jerry Lee Lewis
Pedo balloon.You gnomes-in-the-loam... Let China float these (also 'of age') balloons over the U.S. if they want.
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Balloon downIntelligence already gathered and transmitted to home base - horse out of the barn. If nothing else and this was figuratively-speaking just a weather/test balloon to see how the Biden administration would react (decisively or cautiously) for when they most likely move to take over Taiwan, they sure got their answer. Me, when that day comes they can have Taiwan for all I care. But "look up in the sky!..it's a bird, it's a plane, it's a...a...fuckin Chinese spy balloon!" is a different kettle of fish. Speaking of which....
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketel_One#/media/File:Logo-ketel-one.png)(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Pink_salmon_FWS.jpg/320px-Pink_salmon_FWS.jpg)
Post by: bojanglesman on February 04, 2023, 04:13:41 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on February 04, 2023, 04:28:07 PM
Post by: delavan on February 04, 2023, 05:00:12 PM
https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1621977978245713920?t=qiU4lpq4rC4UgNwHNFS8pQ&s=19Good to know. I have a question though: how did they (or would they) know up front that they'd be able to block intelligence gathered data?
Post by: bojanglesman on February 04, 2023, 05:07:59 PM
Good to know. I have a question though: how did they (or would they) know up front that they'd be able to block intelligence gathered data?We have good nerds I guess. No idea, my government clearance expired when I was born.
Post by: delavan on February 04, 2023, 05:25:22 PM
We have good nerds I guess. No idea, my government clearance expired when I was born.I guess so. Again, good to know and a lot better than
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Post by: bojanglesman on February 04, 2023, 05:26:03 PM
I guess so. Again, good to know and a lot better thanWould be hilarious if it turns out to actually be a weather balloon. I know it's not, but still.
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It better yet, it's Canadian, disguised as Chinese. Or it's a pair of MB's pants floating away after a massive fart.
Post by: Johnny English on February 04, 2023, 05:53:52 PM
No, wait, that's Trumpanzee fantasy.
Post by: delavan on February 04, 2023, 07:16:34 PM
https://twitter.com/Michael78794333/status/1621917914327547908
Post by: Badger on February 07, 2023, 09:17:16 AM
https://twitter.com/JulianCastro/status/1622636656535781376?s=19
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 08, 2023, 10:32:39 AM
These guys freak
Post by: delavan on February 08, 2023, 03:30:47 PM
https://twitter.com/cabot_phillips/status/1623139547109376002?s=46&t=-Q7MxjvJDYuCynZztpN4OQIn that center of attention setting yes and ewww…but who doesn’t like kissing women on the lips.
These guys freak
Post by: bojanglesman on February 08, 2023, 03:33:01 PM
In that center of attention setting yes but who doesn’t like kissing women on the lips.
steelersnurse.jpg
Post by: delavan on February 10, 2023, 02:37:03 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-shoots-down-high-altitude-object-alaska/
Post by: delavan on February 13, 2023, 03:10:56 PM
Post by: Johnny English on February 13, 2023, 04:14:01 PM
Joe, could your folks stop ‘objectifying’ and start identifying what you’re shooting down.Sounds like something a communist would say.
Post by: delavan on February 13, 2023, 05:43:26 PM
Sounds like something a communist would say.
Actually, 'objectifying' in this case was a playful faux feminist poke at the administration's latest classification of these flying items ('objects/objectifying') while asking the obvious question: well what the hell are they then?
If I were to guess, I'd say that you must suspect I harbor clandestine reactionary sensibilities and that the "something a communist would say" comment was cryptically intended in the "oh the irony" sense. How 'my doin'? ; )
Post by: delavan on February 27, 2023, 03:41:10 PM
In case Biden’s hitherto lucidity was lost on his spellbound hosts last week.
Yellin then Yellen
Post by: Badger on February 28, 2023, 12:26:48 PM
https://twitter.com/fordm/status/1630588653524140033?t=9dVYQSLuSoo6bfpdlRMYJw&s=19
Post by: delavan on February 28, 2023, 03:22:28 PM
Cons, stop making Biden sound cooler than he isJoe Robespierre’s a Chevy
https://twitter.com/fordm/status/1630588653524140033?t=9dVYQSLuSoo6bfpdlRMYJw&s=19
lumpy underwear’s ‘pas chouette’ mon frère
Post by: delavan on March 05, 2023, 09:46:24 AM
Post by: Badger on March 14, 2023, 07:29:42 PM
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1635713664782041095?t=4AUGqDt7QMcEP71SF1-rtg&s=19
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 14, 2023, 07:37:06 PM
Cons mad
Post by: Johnny English on March 14, 2023, 07:48:47 PM
https://twitter.com/dailycaller/status/1635747993667137543?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Cons mad
I'm confused. I thought cons were all about the whole "if you've done nothing wrong you've got nothing to worry about" life. How is this different?
Post by: delavan on March 14, 2023, 07:58:50 PM
Quote from: JonnyEnglish
I'm confused. I thought cons were all about the whole "if you've done nothing wrong you've got nothing to worry about" life. How is this different?
https://twitter.com/dailycaller/status/1635747993667137543?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Cons mad
Why would 'cons' be mad?
https://www.criminaljustice.com/10-famous-ex-cons-who-turned-it-around/
Post by: Badger on March 16, 2023, 11:14:42 AM
https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/1636369956882268161?t=_IDVu8zKSLbGsTjnaKPF5A&s=19
Sounds like new hires at my job when they're stuck trying to explain something they don't understand.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 16, 2023, 01:28:25 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 16, 2023, 01:29:22 PM
What does this mean?
https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/1636369956882268161?t=_IDVu8zKSLbGsTjnaKPF5A&s=19
Sounds like new hires at my job when they're stuck trying to explain something they don't understand.
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1636328652890681344?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Everything this lady says
Post by: delavan on March 16, 2023, 07:30:54 PM
https://twitter.com/IAmPoliticsGirl/header_photo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSEQ0kMt-0k
Post by: delavan on April 05, 2023, 03:12:38 PM
joey gaffe's dr. squeeze has further put lsu's ire in a lather by wanting to include the iowa ofays to 1600 Penn Av as well.
angel reece ain't having none 'that shlt - whoops dr. jill
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/apr/05/angel-reese-jill-biden-white-house-visit-lsu-ncaa-college-basketball
edit: and angel reece's over-the-top "we'll go to OB/Michelle instead" reaction's pretty freaking amusing. Joe!...forget the MAGA swipes, look like your wife's putting them in chains...lmao...
Post by: Badger on April 30, 2023, 12:18:22 PM
We live in the dumbest timeline
Post by: dcm1602 on April 30, 2023, 01:06:52 PM
https://v.redd.it/uqpwqf4dazwa1
We live in the dumbest timeline
Probably not the best idea when half the world thinks you have dementia or alzheimers
Post by: delavan on May 14, 2023, 08:11:49 PM
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-slammed-vacation-amid-border-travel-concerns-1769794
….as with now
https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2023-05-14/ambitious-agenda-for-biden-on-upcoming-three-nation-indo-pacific-trip-as-debt-default-looms-at-home
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 01, 2023, 02:44:10 PM
Can’t believe they’re about to run it back with a guy that can’t stand/walk
Post by: delavan on June 01, 2023, 08:06:08 PM
https://twitter.com/jacobkschneider/status/1664343681321541636?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkgSFD, I attended the Air Force Graduation in Colorado Springs today and while Joe B. had his ”down goes Fraziah!…down goes Frazahh!” moment taking a header, in his defense he had just shaken hands with 900 grads - this after giving a pretty solid commencement address.
Can’t believe they’re about to run it back with a guy that can’t stand/walk
The “Dismissed!” command where the grads all flung their hats in the air ‘live’ was pretty cool as was the Thunderbirds flying overhead at the conclusion. Big hail storm broke aftrrwards (and after Joe & co. split). Overall impression: Biden’s security detail is not to be believed. Very impressive. Jets should do such a flyover for the Bills home opener.
@Badger: 🎥 🙏
Post by: delavan on June 01, 2023, 08:33:09 PM
Post by: Badger on June 01, 2023, 08:38:07 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 02, 2023, 07:08:10 AM
https://twitter.com/jacobkschneider/status/1664343681321541636?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Can’t believe they’re about to run it back with a guy that can’t stand/walk
He's in his Gerald Ford era.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 07, 2023, 11:33:00 PM
Post by: Badger on June 12, 2023, 07:56:35 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 13, 2023, 02:05:13 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 13, 2023, 02:05:19 PM
Post by: Badger on June 14, 2023, 06:21:39 AM
https://twitter.com/slikrik2003/status/1668772279860498432?t=_yCktINvMw_lqwDDJaRleQ&s=19
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Post by: delavan on June 16, 2023, 03:32:14 PM
It’s nothing personal, it’s strictly business joe…..then and now..
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/16/tesla-musk-ev-chargers-00101437
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/05/business/tesla-snub-white-house-event/index.html
https://youtu.be/Bo7zkd0kRS4
Post by: delavan on June 16, 2023, 06:49:39 PM
“All right? God save the Queen, man.” (Applause)
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2023/06/16/remarks-by-president-biden-at-the-national-safer-communities-summit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Queen_Is_Dead#/media/File%3AThe-Queen-is-Dead-cover.png
Post by: Coach K on June 17, 2023, 08:43:04 AM
Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk
Post by: delavan on June 20, 2023, 01:03:21 PM
He’s also being charged with possessing a firearm while being a user of illegal drugs, a felony, but will have the charge dismissed if he completes a two-year probationary period.
Hunter Biden & the Feds
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Post by: mj2sexay on June 20, 2023, 09:31:49 PM
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/20/house-republicans-hunter-biden-00102666
He’s also being charged with possessing a firearm while being a user of illegal drugs, a felony, but will have the charge dismissed if he completes a two-year probationary period.
Hunter Biden & the Feds
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Guns_roses_logo.png)
LOL remember when dumb leftists rioted and burnt down city blocks under the guise of TwO tIeReD jUStIcE sYsTeM only to vote in this freaking mess? The literal personification of our overincarceration problem and his corrupt queynte of a VP who to this day laughs about locking up people on nonviolents.
8 mo pregnant client I have and the State wants c/s hours and 3 yrs probation for allegedly taking a hundred bucks worth of baby clothes from wal-mart, but little lord fuckpants gets to skate on a gun charge. freak everything.
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 20, 2023, 09:48:37 PM
LOL remember when dumb leftists rioted and burnt down city blocks under the guise of TwO tIeReD jUStIcE sYsTeM only to vote in this freaking mess? The literal personification of our overincarceration problem and his corrupt queynte of a VP who to this day laughs about locking up people on nonviolents.
8 mo pregnant client I have and the State wants c/s hours and 3 yrs probation for allegedly taking a hundred bucks worth of baby clothes from wal-mart, but little lord fuckpants gets to skate on a gun charge. freak everything.
freak, I'm almost there.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 05, 2023, 02:14:42 PM
Post by: delavan on July 05, 2023, 02:37:50 PM
https://twitter.com/betonline_ag/status/1676574306451456002?s=10&t=JNIE16dq__PDFutgyQ7iHg
The White House
https://youtu.be/V5BF1V1pbTs
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 06, 2023, 10:55:09 AM
“Trump followers are a cult”
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 06, 2023, 02:59:48 PM
Plz Kamala
Post by: delavan on July 06, 2023, 07:28:24 PM
https://twitter.com/victorshi2020/status/1676709071473213440?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
^ In the lower right hand corner of that picture looks to be a light fixture of some sort and in the middle of the fixture: is that a cowboy silhouette?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Philmont_Scout_Ranch_Scout_cowboy_silhouette.jpg/320px-Philmont_Scout_Ranch_Scout_cowboy_silhouette.jpg)
”And now…herrrre’s Joey!”
https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1674542027210358787
Post by: delavan on July 14, 2023, 05:51:45 PM
https://youtu.be/JazVpIjCPOE
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🇫🇮 😳 🇫🇮
🇺🇸 🤡 🇺🇸
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 20, 2023, 10:04:02 PM
Post by: Johnny English on July 20, 2023, 10:57:09 PM
Can anyone debunk the claims that Joe Biden and family didn’t bribe foreign officials? Haven’t really seen anything disproving it lolYou're asking someone to disprove a negative?
Post by: Badger on July 20, 2023, 11:32:59 PM
Can anyone debunk the claims that Joe Biden and family didn’t bribe foreign officials? Haven’t really seen anything disproving it lolI find it hard to care about the latest thing when they've been openly doing "bribery with extra steps" for decades. Like what, this time they're gonna be held accountable?
What I'm saying is it doesn't even matter if it's real or not.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 21, 2023, 09:54:44 AM
I find it hard to care about the latest thing when they've been openly doing "bribery with extra steps" for decades. Like what, this time they're gonna be held accountable?
What I'm saying is it doesn't even matter if it's real or not.
Gives credence to the conservatives screeching about politicization of the Justice system when only one side is getting charged/prosecuted
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 21, 2023, 09:55:30 AM
You're asking someone to disprove a negative?
I was at the pub
Post by: Badger on July 21, 2023, 10:08:01 AM
Gives credence to the conservatives screeching about politicization of the Justice system when only one side is getting charged/prosecutedNothing's going to happen to Trump either.
Post by: delavan on July 25, 2023, 01:45:28 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Beware_of_Dog.jpg)(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Beware_of_Dog.jpg)
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Maybe curb the cur you enfeebled grifter? ….
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/07/25/politics/commander-biden-bites-secret-service/index.html
If our choice for president in 2024 is biden versus trump we as a Country deserve what we get.
.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 26, 2023, 10:28:40 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 26, 2023, 10:29:47 PM
Nothing's going to happen to Trump either.
let’s see if you change your tune when he lose da Lection
Post by: delavan on July 26, 2023, 11:07:56 PM
At least he’s not ripping lines in the White HouseHa - point taken.
And as a dog owner I’m only suggesting that Commander be socialized when he was a pup.
#whoringhunterboyskank
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 26, 2023, 11:29:15 PM
Ha - point taken.
And as a dog owner I’m only suggesting that Commander be socialized when he was a pup.
#whoringhunterboyskank
Sounds like commie talk
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 26, 2023, 11:29:34 PM
Post by: delavan on July 27, 2023, 02:41:35 PM
Quote from: SixFeetDeep
Sounds like commie talk
Quote from: SixFeetDeep
My theory is that this is just the same dog that was biting everyone beforeIf habitual then muzzle the mutt or does that sound like DOJ talk? ; )
Post by: Johnny English on July 27, 2023, 02:47:08 PM
Post by: delavan on July 27, 2023, 03:19:05 PM
Or did the ‘no partisan’ DOJ joke rub someone’s hyper-partisan sensibilities the wrong way? 😘
Post by: Johnny English on July 27, 2023, 03:21:47 PM
Hardly. I just don’t equate man’s best friend pets as potential threats.
Or did the ‘no partisan’ DOJ joke rub someone’s hyper-partisan sensibilities the wrong way? 😘
Of course dogs are potential threats, that's why they have pointy ends. Do you even dog?
The DOJ joke did not rub my anything any way, mostly because - like the majority of your posts - I didn't understand it. It may be that you're simply operating on a different level to me.
Post by: delavan on July 27, 2023, 03:43:08 PM
Of course dogs are potential threats, that's why they have pointy ends. Do you even dog?The majority of my posts are unintelligible? Ok, just for shlts ‘n giggles, how big a majority? 60/40? 80/20? 98/2? 99/1?
The DOJ joke did not rub my anything any way, mostly because - like the majority of your posts - I didn't understand it. It may be that you're simply operating on a different level to me.
Post by: reuben on July 27, 2023, 03:53:43 PM
The majority of my posts are unintelligible? Ok, just for shlts ‘n giggles, how big a majority? 60/40? 80/20? 98/2? 99/1?
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Post by: Johnny English on July 27, 2023, 04:00:48 PM
The majority of my posts are unintelligible? Ok, just for shlts ‘n giggles, how big a majority? 60/40? 80/20? 98/2? 99/1?I didn't say that. I said that I don't understand them, others may have more highly developed Pictionary skills.
Post by: delavan on July 27, 2023, 04:46:29 PM
I didn't say that. I said that I don't understand them,So, you found them unintelligible…
others may have more highly developed Pictionary skills.
ha, good one
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Pictionary_Party.jpg/452px-Pictionary_Party.jpg)
memo to self: Joe Biden = hands off
Post by: mj2sexay on July 27, 2023, 05:10:03 PM
Remember though, Joe never had anything to do with his sons businesses.
I actually believe him just because I legitimately believe in any sort of criminal proceeding, Biden is so compromised by dementia he'd be found incompetent to stand trial.
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 27, 2023, 06:09:32 PM
What a shock those crying about the emoluments clause some years back after just having heard about it have nothing to say about the Presidents shitbag son being giftwrapped a plea deal from a clearly compromised DOJ that couldn't go through because this poopchute is still under investigation.
Remember though, Joe never had anything to do with his sons businesses.
I actually believe him just because I legitimately believe in any sort of criminal proceeding, Biden is so compromised by dementia he'd be found incompetent to stand trial.
Look at me when you do that
Post by: mj2sexay on July 27, 2023, 07:49:00 PM
Look at me when you do that
This is weird. You're weird.
Post by: Badger on August 05, 2023, 08:27:57 AM
Post by: MBGreen on August 05, 2023, 10:00:29 AM
President LIE-den is stealing the freedom to choose the shittiest light bulbs from REAL Americans.President Try-den?
Post by: delavan on August 05, 2023, 02:46:48 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Dr._Jill_Biden_Blows_a_Kiss_-_3219469044_%28cropped%29.jpg/181px-Dr._Jill_Biden_Blows_a_Kiss_-_3219469044_%28cropped%29.jpg)
Post by: Johnny English on August 05, 2023, 03:28:44 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 05, 2023, 05:51:12 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 05, 2023, 09:16:08 PM
Post by: Johnny English on August 10, 2023, 01:00:48 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/man-killed-fbi-raid-connection-threats-biden-officials/story?id=102138966
Post by: mj2sexay on August 11, 2023, 11:24:09 AM
President Law-a-Biden
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Literally doing what everyone accused Don and Don Jr. of. What would DNC shills be without absolute projection.
Post by: mj2sexay on August 12, 2023, 11:14:43 AM
Merrick Garland is a freaking fraud and the best thing Mitch ever did was ensure this hack wouldn't be a permanent member of the Supreme Court.
Post by: Badger on August 12, 2023, 11:54:55 AM
Don't worry guys, the same person who offered Hunter Biden a plea deal that wouldn't be available to anyone outside of the .000000000001 percent of the elite political class is handling the investigation. Nothing to see here.Yeah, he would really water down the integrity of that group.
Merrick Garland is a freaking fraud and the best thing Mitch ever did was ensure this hack wouldn't be a permanent member of the Supreme Court.
Post by: delavan on August 12, 2023, 03:42:34 PM
Literally doing what everyone accused Don and Don Jr. of. What would DNC shills be without absolute projection.I thought the Law-a-Biden word play was cute but the follow up posts suggest I continue to bear in mind: Joe's 'hands off' :-)
That said, the guy's a freaking thick mic grifting piece of steaming shlt and hunter's 2.0
* not to worry: saving "Trump's an avaricious pos" for the trump fire thread *
Post by: delavan on August 14, 2023, 10:49:02 AM
Biden has weaponized the socialist FBI against true patriots.The socialized FBI? But of course; first adjective that came to mind, i.e. lol say wha’? Anyway, weaponized or not Chris Wray lied through his teeth when he claimed their catholic spying project was contained to a single memo.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/man-killed-fbi-raid-connection-threats-biden-officials/story?id=102138966
Moreover, be it “it” a church, a temple, a mosque, or an ”I saw Elvis” Dairy Queen, it’s pretty chilling imho when an FBI’s surveillance program is carried out to such an extent and equally chilling that they had to admit to being a bunch of lying weasels about it.
Hell I grew up rooting for Efrem Zimbalist Jr’s FBI as the good guys…
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Efrem_Zimbalist%2C_Jr._Most_Wanted_List_The_FBI.JPG/483px-Efrem_Zimbalist%2C_Jr._Most_Wanted_List_The_FBI.JPG)
Post by: mj2sexay on August 14, 2023, 08:40:30 PM
Yeah, he would really water down the integrity of that group.
Indeed he would, well said.
Anyway, you'd think the leader of the free world would be politically astute if not compassionate enough to offer something to those being affected by terrible tragedy in Hawaii right now, but I guess when his masters haven't told him what to say yet, all he can do is defecate in his pants (again) before offering up a "no comment." JFC. I've seen this senile old bag more forceful when he's defending his sons illegal influence peddling as his DOJ completely tries to sweep that under the rug.
What a sorry sack of excrement. Embarrassing really.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 15, 2023, 08:15:29 AM
Indeed he would, well said.
Anyway, you'd think the leader of the free world would be politically astute if not compassionate enough to offer something to those being affected by terrible tragedy in Hawaii right now, but I guess when his masters haven't told him what to say yet, all he can do is defecate in his pants (again) before offering up a "no comment." JFC. I've seen this senile old bag more forceful when he's defending his sons illegal influence peddling as his DOJ completely tries to sweep that under the rug.
What a sorry sack of excrement. Embarrassing really.
You don’t have Biden notis on, clearly
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 22, 2023, 02:23:51 PM
Alpha
Post by: Johnny English on August 22, 2023, 02:32:33 PM
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1693955799197073658?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Alpha
He actually appears to be reading his phone, which is how I spend roughly 50% of my time during meetings. More if I can turn my camera off.
Post by: mj2sexay on August 22, 2023, 03:55:54 PM
What a corrupt, sorry sack of excrement. It's almost like he's everything the previous guy was accused of being.
Post by: Johnny English on August 22, 2023, 03:58:51 PM
What a corrupt, sorry sack of excrement. It's almost like he's everything the previous guy was accused of being.
To be fair, he definitely isn't everything the previous guy was accused of being. He might be one or two of them, and he's probably a bunch of things the previous guy wasn't accused of being, but the false equivalencies don't really help anyone.
Post by: delavan on August 22, 2023, 06:14:12 PM
"Hey I know you guys are searching for the ashes of your loved ones, but let me tell you about the time a small electrical fire almost resulted in the loss of my cat and corvette."Don't do that. You muddy the waters and invite (however thinly veiled) partisan projection and deflection. This is not about the 'other slob' Trump this is about the current tone-deaf bastard. And Biden in attempting to fraternize himself with the Maui victims had the consummate gall to take it a step further (i.e. past the cat & Vette) by including his 'rescued wife' in his crass vingnette for good measure regarding what was described by F.D. responders at the time as a small kitchen fire.
What a corrupt, sorry sack of excrement. It's almost like he's everything
the previous guy
was accused of being.
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-maui-fires-corvette-fury-1821486
To be fair, heTo be fair he in fact is a shanty lowlife who has no business being president. Whether red or blue, lying characterless scum is lying characterless scum.
definitely isn't
everything the previous guy was accused of being. He
might be
one or two of them, and
he's probably
a bunch of things the previous guy wasn't accused of being, but the false equivalencies don't really help anyone.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 22, 2023, 08:10:10 PM
"Hey I know you guys are searching for the ashes of your loved ones, but let me tell you about the time a small electrical fire almost resulted in the loss of my cat and corvette."
What a corrupt, sorry sack of excrement. It's almost like he's everything the previous guy was accused of being.
I’m gonna go ahead and guess you didn’t make this post for Hurricane Maria
Post by: Badger on September 24, 2023, 10:04:41 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on September 25, 2023, 01:40:30 PM
To be fair, he definitely isn't everything the previous guy was accused of being. He might be one or two of them, and he's probably a bunch of things the previous guy wasn't accused of being, but the false equivalencies don't really help anyone.
Oh no, he's definitely a corrupt racist who's shielding his shitbag son/weaponizing the DOJ.
I’m gonna go ahead and guess you didn’t make this post for Hurricane Maria
Hawaiian wildfires in which those people had to have their plight compared with some geriatric mess almost losing a car.
Post by: Johnny English on September 26, 2023, 10:10:47 AM
Post by: dcm1602 on September 26, 2023, 10:34:58 AM
Probably also explains why there's almost no American cars anymore, and they're all just going to massive truck and SUVs
Post by: Badger on September 26, 2023, 10:36:32 AM
Biden doing his part at making the American car manufacturer extinct."Workers should submit to the whims of their masters lest they exploit someone else in another country" is certainly a take
Probably also explains why there's almost no American cars anymore, and they're all just going to massive truck and SUVs
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 26, 2023, 06:38:27 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on September 26, 2023, 06:53:18 PM
"Workers should submit to the whims of their masters lest they exploit someone else in another country" is certainly a take
Yeah this isn't submitting to the whims of their masters. This is when you do a shitty job you shouldn't be making demands that'll speed up bankrupting your shitty company.
If the employees of Toyota or any of the good car companies were making these demands they'd have an argument.
American companies it's just like lol at this point. Not to mention American car companies are unquestionably worse for global warming than their Asian counterparts
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 26, 2023, 10:14:16 PM
Yeah this isn't submitting to the whims of their masters. This is when you do a shitty job you shouldn't be making demands that'll speed up bankrupting your shitty company.
If the employees of Toyota or any of the good car companies were making these demands they'd have an argument.
American companies it's just like lol at this point. Not to mention American car companies are unquestionably worse for global warming than their Asian counterparts
Why do you think line workers are responsible for design and sourcing?
Post by: Badger on September 26, 2023, 10:33:54 PM
https://x.com/abc/status/1706788113207476488?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkgDamn I came back in here specifically to post this.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-dog-commander-attacks-secret-service-staff-again/
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 26, 2023, 10:51:14 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on September 26, 2023, 10:56:45 PM
Why do you think line workers are responsible for design and sourcing?
I don't think their responsibilities has to do with the fact their companies are shitty and on shaky ground.
I have no idea what the profit margins look like at these companies, other than to say nobody thinks they're as good as their Asian counterparts
Post by: Johnny English on September 27, 2023, 08:29:00 AM
I don't think their responsibilities has to do with the fact their companies are shitty and on shaky ground.
I have no idea what the profit margins look like at these companies, other than to say nobody thinks they're as good as their Asian counterparts
Loads of people choose domestic over import for a variety of reasons - since I moved to these shores 14 years ago every vehicle I've bought (8 in total) bar one was domestic, and the quality has been uniformly excellent. The stats also bear that out:
https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2023-us-initial-quality-study-iqs
6 of the top 10 brands for Initial Quality are domestic. The fact is that the standard of domestic auto output has never been higher, and by the way - who do you think is building Toyotas, Nissans, Kias and Hyundais?
Post by: Badger on October 02, 2023, 08:36:53 PM
I've met secret service agents before so this is funny every time.https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1708981023680168299?t=oES6UCAijHQfQyuEqdOTkg&s=19
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 02, 2023, 09:08:47 PM
https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1708981023680168299?t=oES6UCAijHQfQyuEqdOTkg&s=19Commander Biden 2024
#ITTFFSP
Post by: Badger on October 04, 2023, 10:17:05 PM
https://apnews.com/article/border-wall-biden-immigration-texas-rio-grande-147d7ab497e6991e9ea929242f21ceb2
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 05, 2023, 08:55:18 AM
Damn I can't believe this guy who sucked for his half century political career still sucks
https://apnews.com/article/border-wall-biden-immigration-texas-rio-grande-147d7ab497e6991e9ea929242f21ceb2
Is this racist when Dems do this or nah?
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 05, 2023, 08:56:06 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 05, 2023, 08:58:18 AM
excrement like this and Kristen Sinema is why I can’t be bothered to vote. It does not matter
Post by: Badger on October 05, 2023, 09:16:04 AM
Build The Wall, but bluePut a rainbow on it and make sure some of the crews are led by foreWOMEN
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 05, 2023, 09:30:47 AM
Put a rainbow on it and make sure some of the crews are led by foreWOMEN
Damnit, I had something for this.
Post by: reuben on October 05, 2023, 01:00:48 PM
Put a rainbow on it and make sure some of the crews are led by foreWOMEN
Excuse me, did you just force gender on our forepersons?
#cancelBadger
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 06, 2023, 08:51:19 AM
Seeing a shocking lack of screeching about this from the liberal media/social influencer crowd that’s brains were exploding during the Trump admin
Not raciss I’m assuming
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 06, 2023, 08:54:59 AM
Post by: steves850 on October 06, 2023, 08:58:53 AM
Post by: Badger on October 06, 2023, 12:12:05 PM
The center and the Right are two wings of the same corrupt bird. This isn't new or news.
Ftfy
Post by: steves850 on October 06, 2023, 12:15:02 PM
Ftfy
The center is so far right it's absurd to differentiate.
Post by: Badger on October 06, 2023, 12:20:22 PM
The center is so far right it's absurd to differentiate.Sure, but the left is virtually unrepresented in government.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 06, 2023, 12:42:40 PM
Sure, but the left is virtually unrepresented in government.
The 2 party system is a farce and having the privilege to pick between Donald Trump and Joe Biden isn’t voting
RFK Jr will drain the swamp
Post by: steves850 on October 06, 2023, 12:45:14 PM
The 2 party system is a farce and having the privilege to pick between Donald Trump and Joe Biden isn’t voting
RFK Jr will drain the swamp
RFK Jr is part of the swamp. He's a fuckin Kennedy and anyone that buys him as an "outsider" is delusional or a simpleton.
He's just running Trumps playbook from 2016.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 06, 2023, 12:50:56 PM
RFK Jr is part of the swamp. He's a fuckin Kennedy and anyone that buys him as an "outsider" is delusional or a simpleton.
He's just running Trumps playbook from 2016.
No, he’s a democrat (D)
Post by: steves850 on October 06, 2023, 12:55:58 PM
No, he’s a democrat (D)
I know you're joking but:
"he wears a blue tie, not a red tie. Totally different."
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 06, 2023, 01:01:04 PM
Oh ok
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 11, 2023, 09:35:38 PM
The only person I would want to vote for less than Biden declares
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 11, 2023, 10:29:41 PM
Community note lol
Post by: Johnny English on October 16, 2023, 09:33:36 PM
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/biden-joins-truth-social-trump_n_652d8f03e4b00565b6211516
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 16, 2023, 11:31:57 PM
This guy STINKS
Post by: steves850 on October 17, 2023, 09:36:56 AM
https://x.com/herbieziskend46/status/1713571176381890586?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg (https://x.com/herbieziskend46/status/1713571176381890586?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg)
This guy STINKS
I can't wait to decide between this douche and the excrement sandwich the right prop up...
Post by: Badger on October 17, 2023, 10:35:30 AM
I can't wait to decide between this douche and the excrement sandwich the right prop up...Swing state problems
Post by: Miamipuck on October 17, 2023, 11:14:21 AM
I can't wait to decide between this douche and the excrement sandwich the right prop up...
Scary isn't it
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 17, 2023, 09:51:07 AM
Bin Laden’s America
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 21, 2023, 11:32:28 AM
Joe Biden is FINISHED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 21, 2023, 11:32:51 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 21, 2023, 11:41:34 AM
https://x.com/benshapiro/status/1726957666336207240?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Joe Biden is FINISHED
Things never made more sense than when I found out he was a failed theater kid.
Post by: Badger on November 28, 2023, 04:54:34 PM
https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1729518490527080573?t=zULc284TfvN2u3V2PAIAOw&s=19
Post by: dcm1602 on November 28, 2023, 06:37:44 PM
lmao
https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1729518490527080573?t=zULc284TfvN2u3V2PAIAOw&s=19
Interest rates killing them young folk
Post by: Johnny English on November 28, 2023, 06:48:16 PM
Interest rates killing them young folk
Interest rates have been way, way higher than this many times in the past. The current rates are not the cause of the financial imbalance of society.
Unless you're talking about the period of historically low rates that we've just lived through, in which case you'd have more of a case.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 29, 2023, 03:26:43 AM
Interest rates have been way, way higher than this many times in the past. The current rates are not the cause of the financial imbalance of society.
Unless you're talking about the period of historically low rates that we've just lived through, in which case you'd have more of a case.
I'm talking about the ability to afford a house.
Yes interest rates were higher in the past, but prices of home vs median income. Right now you'd have to make somewhere in the ballpark of 125k to responsibly afford a 350k mortgage, and that's assuming you can manage 50k down.
I'm not talking about financial imbalances or equity or any of that nonsense. I'm talking about interest rates making home purchases near impossible for a lot of people
Post by: MBGreen on November 29, 2023, 07:38:47 AM
I'm talking about the ability to afford a house.
Yes interest rates were higher in the past, but prices of home vs median income. Right now you'd have to make somewhere in the ballpark of 125k to responsibly afford a 350k mortgage, and that's assuming you can manage 50k down.
I'm not talking about financial imbalances or equity or any of that nonsense. I'm talking about interest rates making home purchases near impossible for a lot of people
Colonials built their houses out of logs back in the 1700s. Maybe give that a try.
Post by: Johnny English on November 29, 2023, 08:02:15 AM
I'm talking about the ability to afford a house.
Yes interest rates were higher in the past, but prices of home vs median income. Right now you'd have to make somewhere in the ballpark of 125k to responsibly afford a 350k mortgage, and that's assuming you can manage 50k down.
I'm not talking about financial imbalances or equity or any of that nonsense. I'm talking about interest rates making home purchases near impossible for a lot of people
Current high interest rates are not why young people can't afford houses, the disparity between wages and house prices is why young people can't afford houses. This is in large part due to the glut of cheap money over the last decade allowing those already on the property ladder to send prices spiraling upwards using the equity in their existing properties that they bought when that disparity did not exist to finance the purchase of additional properties. In 2022, 22% of all house sales in the US were to investors. In 2021 it was 24%. Investors are not buying 6 bedroom McMansions, they're buying the kind of 2 and 3 bed cookie cutter homes that are the traditional starter home for young first time buyers because that's the kind of property that gives the best ROI when you look at rents relative to purchase price.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 29, 2023, 09:14:45 AM
Current high interest rates are not why young people can't afford houses, the disparity between wages and house prices is why young people can't afford houses. This is in large part due to the glut of cheap money over the last decade allowing those already on the property ladder to send prices spiraling upwards using the equity in their existing properties that they bought when that disparity did not exist to finance the purchase of additional properties. In 2022, 22% of all house sales in the US were to investors. In 2021 it was 24%. Investors are not buying 6 bedroom McMansions, they're buying the kind of 2 and 3 bed cookie cutter homes that are the traditional starter home for young first time buyers because that's the kind of property that gives the best ROI when you look at rents relative to purchase price.
Yes the reason is multifactorial, but interest rates is the biggest factor, especially with the insane wage inflation that's happened the last few years.
But buying a house is the biggest financial decision most people ever make in their lives, followed by student loans. A typical mortgage is approaching double what it was a few years ago, and student loans are still student loans.
Wages is probably next in line, followed by ridiculous spending and garbage saving habits (this ain't exclusive to young people, I think 50% of people > age 50 have less than 10k saved for retirement)
I wasn't aware on the percentage of investment homes, but that's clearly got to be a big factor as well
(and yes this is a Biden thread, but I don't think inflation is a solely attributable to Biden or anything like that)
Post by: MBGreen on November 29, 2023, 09:23:02 AM
Yes the reason is multifactorial, but interest rates is the biggest factor, especially with the insane wage inflation that's happened the last few years.
But buying a house is the biggest financial decision most people ever make in their lives, followed by student loans. A typical mortgage is approaching double what it was a few years ago, and student loans are still student loans.
Wages is probably next in line, followed by ridiculous spending and garbage saving habits (this ain't exclusive to young people, I think 50% of people > age 50 have less than 10k saved for retirement)
I wasn't aware on the percentage of investment homes, but that's clearly got to be a big factor as well
(and yes this is a Biden thread, but I don't think inflation is a solely attributable to Biden or anything like that)
what about dem log cabins doe?
Post by: dcm1602 on November 29, 2023, 09:25:10 AM
what about dem log cabins doe?
Young people are against cutting down trees, it's bad for the environment
Post by: MBGreen on November 29, 2023, 09:33:10 AM
Young people are against cutting down trees, it's bad for the environment
Young people are against everything except tiktok
Post by: bojanglesman on November 29, 2023, 10:01:44 AM
Post by: MBGreen on November 29, 2023, 10:09:46 AM
Logs are expensive.
not when i steal them from your yard
Post by: Badger on November 29, 2023, 10:25:10 AM
Yes the reason is multifactorial, but interest rates is the biggest factor,
No.
Interest rates don't matter when you can't even make a down payment.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 29, 2023, 10:30:11 AM
No.
Interest rates don't matter when you can't even make a down payment.
This. The only reason I have my place is because I was able to use a VA loan which was a no money down mortgage. It also led to several of my offers being rejected simply because I couldn't afford to put any money down.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 29, 2023, 03:11:48 PM
No.
Interest rates don't matter when you can't even make a down payment.
These mortgages all offer 3.5% down bullshit. I realize PMI sucks, but it'd still manageable. 10-15k for a down-payment is a helluva lot more manageable than 2.5-3k a month
But yeah as Cato mentions you'll definitely have more issues getting an accepted offer vs all cash or traditional mortgages
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 29, 2023, 08:28:33 PM
Ok NOW Biden is finished
Post by: Coach K on November 29, 2023, 09:28:53 PM
https://x.com/acyn/status/1730040394883191221?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkgNewscaster
Ok NOW Biden is finished
I'm a closet homosexual and need to project drinking iced coffee from the guys I blow at the local glory hole
I mean things are slow lately
Just using the phrase lips purse is gayer than using a straw. Even if you're jamming it into your prostate
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 29, 2023, 10:25:10 PM
NewscasterUsing the phrase "lips pursed is too dainty" is gayer than sucking dick.
I'm a closet homosexual and need to project drinking iced coffee from the guys I blow at the local glory hole
I mean things are slow lately
Just using the phrase lips purse is gayer than using a straw. Even if you're jamming it into your prostate
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 30, 2023, 10:56:31 AM
Post by: Badger on November 30, 2023, 07:02:21 PM
Just using the phrase lips purse is gayer than using a straw. Even if you're jamming it into your prostate
Using the phrase "lips pursed is too dainty" is gayer than sucking dick.
Facts
Post by: Johnny English on November 30, 2023, 07:24:41 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 08, 2023, 08:19:40 PM
Joe Biden’s America
Post by: Badger on December 09, 2023, 05:25:38 PM
https://gamersupps.gg/products/lean-caffeine-free-100-servings
Post by: Badger on December 10, 2023, 08:38:48 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/hillary-clinton-joe-biden-campaign-rcna128190
Post by: Badger on December 12, 2023, 10:43:26 PM
Repubs get: to purge undesirables
Bipartisanship!
https://twitter.com/camiloreports/status/1734675771963125876?t=-KeW_0szhrc95x0sgjyX2Q&s=19
Post by: dcm1602 on December 13, 2023, 04:14:04 AM
Dems get: more money for unwinnable war
Repubs get: to purge undesirables
Bipartisanship!
https://twitter.com/camiloreports/status/1734675771963125876?t=-KeW_0szhrc95x0sgjyX2Q&s=19
I didn't see anything about abortion being included
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 14, 2023, 01:39:10 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 21, 2023, 09:33:21 PM
Post by: Badger on January 10, 2024, 12:02:42 PM
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1744850816786133209?t=8m9ospnmxnh9Ji7LSycMow&s=19
What could possibly be causing a sizeable portion of Dem constituency in Michigan to abandon Biden?
Post by: Badger on January 17, 2024, 12:49:16 PM
https://twitter.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1747622982900416873?t=JzNQoOMVeuIxaoUoCOZquA&s=19
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 17, 2024, 12:56:28 PM
This is actually good
https://twitter.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1747622982900416873?t=JzNQoOMVeuIxaoUoCOZquA&s=19
Glad we're limiting financial institutions' ability to tax people for being too poor.
Post by: Badger on January 17, 2024, 02:43:12 PM
Glad we're limiting financial institutions' ability to tax people for being too poor.Baby steps (are literally the best we can get from these assholes)
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 17, 2024, 02:49:01 PM
Wonder how he feels about this one.
Post by: Johnny English on January 17, 2024, 03:16:57 PM
https://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1747323130060697682 (https://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1747323130060697682)
Wonder how he feels about this one.
I doubt he gives a excrement. Do you know Daly's history? She's a freaking idiot who is listened to by few, and respected by fewer. The European Parliament is a comedy outfit with no purpose and no value, as ably demonstrated by the fact that Nigel freaking Farage was an MEP.
Post by: dcm1602 on January 17, 2024, 08:55:37 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 19, 2024, 09:36:56 AM
I’d love to witness firsthand how much drugs this lady does everyday
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 19, 2024, 01:31:48 PM
Sources are saying
Post by: Johnny English on January 19, 2024, 03:40:47 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-01-19/biden-s-energy-record-should-shut-down-critics-on-both-sides
Post by: Badger on January 20, 2024, 08:33:06 PM
I doubt he gives a excrement. Do you know Daly's history? She's a freaking idiot who is listened to by few, and respected by fewer. The European Parliament is a comedy outfit with no purpose and no value, as ably demonstrated by the fact that Nigel freaking Farage was an MEP.
Why do you always hate the only good politicians?
https://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1747323130060697682 (https://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1747323130060697682)
Wonder how he feels about this one.
Sadly he has no idea who she is, and will probably never hear this quote, and if he did, he'd forget it before his next meal.
Post by: Badger on January 20, 2024, 08:33:12 PM
https://twitter.com/John_Hudson/status/1748853055028703318?t=Nm5FiMium0OAvxsCrdIaNg&s=19
Post by: Badger on January 20, 2024, 08:35:16 PM
Isn't Ireland up Gaza's derriere anyway?So weird how Ireland would side with people being crushed by a powerful neighbor.
Post by: Badger on January 21, 2024, 04:21:08 PM
https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1749169278052343895?t=v-HFfxNc5WzwjpEiKJX4jw&s=19
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 24, 2024, 07:39:09 AM
Post by: Badger on January 24, 2024, 08:12:05 AM
I keep waiting for the Dems to announce the real plan instead of BidenDoing genocide denial to own the Republicans
https://twitter.com/Dylan_Housman/status/1749915493543071762?t=BbxoFZzJb9PL4PCtSKDR8g&s=19
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 24, 2024, 06:15:35 PM
This is why I’m voting for Deez Nuts
Post by: delavan on January 24, 2024, 07:51:31 PM
https://youtu.be/h9l14Rwv-Qo?si=2mApxLbMAaVlrh0F
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 25, 2024, 03:46:25 PM
My guy is sunsetting
Post by: dcm1602 on January 25, 2024, 05:55:01 PM
https://x.com/hardfactornews/status/1750625205213646895?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
My guy is sunsetting
I wonder if they pipe in the audience laughs like he's on a sitcom. There's no way the people in the audience could've found that gibberish amusing
Post by: dcm1602 on January 30, 2024, 01:19:54 PM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/endorsement-hungry-biden-aides-floated-taylor-swift-eras-tour-stunt-nyt
Post by: Johnny English on February 02, 2024, 02:02:18 PM
Who could ever have predicted that investing in infrastructure projects instead of using public funds to finance dividends and share buybacks would lead to economic benefits? It's shocking, I tell you.
Post by: dcm1602 on February 02, 2024, 03:01:54 PM
https://www.newsweek.com/former-trump-advisor-praises-joe-biden-economy-i-was-wrong-1866232
Who could ever have predicted that investing in infrastructure projects instead of using public funds to finance dividends and share buybacks would lead to economic benefits? It's shocking, I tell you.
Turns out the exact same guy also mentions that there would be drawbacks as well
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxbusiness.com/media/larry-kudlow-government-spending-deficits-debt-played-into-gdp-number.amp
Post by: Johnny English on February 02, 2024, 03:37:04 PM
Turns out the exact same guy also mentions that there would be drawbacks as well
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxbusiness.com/media/larry-kudlow-government-spending-deficits-debt-played-into-gdp-number.amp
You're not really offering that up as some kind of rebuttal, are you? C'mon man. I know you have a better grasp of economics than that.
Post by: MBGreen on February 02, 2024, 03:58:12 PM
You're not really offering that up as some kind of rebuttal, are you? C'mon man. I know you have a better grasp of economics than that.
Money for nothing....and chicks for free
Post by: dcm1602 on February 02, 2024, 04:57:29 PM
You're not really offering that up as some kind of rebuttal, are you? C'mon man. I know you have a better grasp of economics than that.
It's not my rebutall, it's literally the exact same guy you quoted referencing the exact same quote you brought up
Post by: MBGreen on February 02, 2024, 05:24:38 PM
It's not my rebutall, it's literally the exact same guy you quoted referencing the exact same quote you brought upDire Straits?
Post by: Coach K on February 02, 2024, 05:41:15 PM
Dire Straits?Rofl
Post by: Johnny English on February 02, 2024, 06:06:11 PM
It's not my rebutall, it's literally the exact same guy you quoted referencing the exact same quote you brought up
A week prior, in a pseudo blog post, cherrypicking data points to support a political argument he's trying to make. Which makes it even more telling that he then expresses surprise at how well the economy is doing, live on Fox.
Conservatives love to talk about government spending as a huge amorphous (w)hole, but never talk about government investment.
Post by: dcm1602 on February 02, 2024, 06:14:55 PM
A week prior, in a pseudo blog post, cherrypicking data points to support a political argument he's trying to make. Which makes it even more telling that he then expresses surprise at how well the economy is doing, live on Fox.
Conservatives love to talk about government spending as a huge amorphous (w)hole, but never talk about government investment.
That's because conservatives generally believe the government is incompetent and isn't particularly effective at investing.
Sure there's some specific things that everyone can get on board with (roads bridges airports infrastructure) but past that? Everyone reverts to tribal mentality
The right is okay investing into national defense (military, protecting the borders) while the left despite being big on government investment has little interest in funding the police, protecting the borders, the military.
Both sides ignore their own general philosophy when it benefits them and their constituents
(FWIW I almost never hear anybody on either the left or the right use the term government investment)
Post by: Johnny English on February 02, 2024, 06:15:49 PM
That's because conservatives generally believe the government is incompetent and isn't particularly effective at investing.
Sure there's some specific things that everyone can get on board with (roads bridges airports infrastructure) but past that? Everyone reverts to tribal mentality
The right is okay investing into national defense (military, protecting the borders) while the left despite being big on government investment has little interest in funding the police, protecting the borders, the military.
Both sides ignore their own general philosophy when it benefits them and their constituents
(FWIW I almost never hear anybody on either the left or the right use the term government investment)
Yeah but..... yeah you're actually right on all that.
Post by: Badger on February 02, 2024, 06:54:34 PM
Sure there's some specific things that everyone can get on board with (roads bridges airports infrastructure)
Don't tell the libertarians.
(FWIW I almost never hear anybody on either the left or the right use the term government investment)
Not that exact phrase but plenty of liberals have made noise about "investing in [insert area of interest]" because they've been trained that spending is a bad word and saying investing makes them sound smart, responsible, and serious.
Post by: Johnny English on February 02, 2024, 07:43:04 PM
Not that exact phrase but plenty of liberals have made noise about "investing in [insert area of interest]" because they've been trained that spending is a bad word and saying investing makes them sound smart, responsible, and serious.
Maybe, but intelligent people of any political stripes can, or should be able to, recognise the difference between investment and spending. Unless you're the worst kind of libertarian loon we also should be able to agree that governments do both, we mostly just disagree on what things fall into what bucket. Generally everyone agrees that infrastructure is good, the divergence comes when we're talking about investing in people and companies. But spending isn't necessarily bad even if it doesn't have an obviously realisable return, and investment isn't necessarily good even if it does.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 06, 2024, 09:37:42 AM
Post by: Johnny English on February 08, 2024, 01:59:05 PM
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2024/01/26/data-dont-lie-bidens-economic-record-is-much-better-than-trumps/
Post by: Johnny English on February 08, 2024, 02:00:47 PM
https://fortune.com/2024/02/06/irs-tax-collection-estimate-inflation-reduction-act/
Post by: dcm1602 on February 08, 2024, 04:11:08 PM
Mmmm..... data. Sexy, sexy data.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2024/01/26/data-dont-lie-bidens-economic-record-is-much-better-than-trumps/
The guy was literally an economic advisor for Biden when he was VP
Post by: Johnny English on February 08, 2024, 04:12:45 PM
The guy was literally an economic advisor for Biden when he was VP
DATA
Post by: dcm1602 on February 08, 2024, 04:14:53 PM
Why is Joe Biden trampling poor millionaires like this?
https://fortune.com/2024/02/06/irs-tax-collection-estimate-inflation-reduction-act/
Some people think the solution is for the government to spend less
Some people think the solution is to give the IRS an extra 80 billion dollars.
I think people on both sides would agree the optimal solution is to simplify the tax code.
Instead it's both size using the IRS as a weapon to rile up their base, and increasingly often to become a weapon against their political adversaries
Post by: dcm1602 on February 08, 2024, 04:16:23 PM
DATA
So you don't think everyone in the media and politics is capable of manipulating DATA to support their point?
Post by: mj2sexay on February 08, 2024, 04:26:17 PM
Hahahahahaha JFC.
I mean, in fairness, he really doesn't have to be mentally competent to appeal to the demographic that ::checks notes:: celebrated the death via stomach cancer of a 62 year old country singer because he slanted his eyes once.
Post by: Johnny English on February 08, 2024, 04:32:48 PM
So you don't think everyone in the media and politics is capable of manipulating DATA to support their point?
I think it's absolutely possible to present a selective data set that supports the narrative that you want to push, yes.
I also think that the data set presented here is pretty solid, both in breadth and veracity.
I also think that while there are legitimate things for which Biden can be knocked, his handling of the economy is absolutely not one of them and the suggestion that Trump is a better bet on that folder, either personally or in terms of the people he surrounds himself with, is absolutely laughable. Even if you're already incredibly wealthy, the economic conditions under Biden's stewardship have absolutely been conducive to generating more because inward investment programs, greater energy independence and sensible trade policies are really good for American business and American workers.
Post by: Johnny English on February 08, 2024, 04:34:26 PM
Some people think the solution is for the government to spend less
Some people think the solution is to give the IRS an extra 80 billion dollars.
I think people on both sides would agree the optimal solution is to simplify the tax code.
Instead it's both size using the IRS as a weapon to rile up their base, and increasingly often to become a weapon against their political adversaries
Tax codes are legitimately ridiculous in pretty much every developed economy. I don't think too many people would argue that a 5:1 return on investment to make the very wealthy pay a bit more of their share is anything other than an excellent use of resources.
Post by: dcm1602 on February 08, 2024, 04:41:56 PM
Tax codes are legitimately ridiculous in pretty much every developed economy. I don't think too many people would argue that a 5:1 return on investment to make the very wealthy pay a bit more of their share is anything other than an excellent use of resources.
Getting the top 1% of billionaires to pay a "fair share" isn't the issue (albeit the definition of fair is very different)
It's if we're going to give the IRS 80 billion, why not just invest those resources into fixing the tax loopholes?
Instead it's just a weapon to batter your enemies and stroke your political allies. So yeah I'm not particularly a fan of the mentality of let's not fix the problem, let's incentive corruption and give politicians more reason to keep things the way they are.
Post by: Johnny English on February 08, 2024, 05:38:13 PM
Getting the top 1% of billionaires to pay a "fair share" isn't the issue (albeit the definition of fair is very different)
It's if we're going to give the IRS 80 billion, why not just invest those resources into fixing the tax loopholes?
Instead it's just a weapon to batter your enemies and stroke your political allies. So yeah I'm not particularly a fan of the mentality of let's not fix the problem, let's incentive corruption and give politicians more reason to keep things the way they are.
But this is taxes that are owed, and not being paid. This isn't either/or. You can go after people who are avoiding their responsibilities AND simplify the tax code. You can't say "this thing is good but it doesn't count because you didn't do another thing that would also be good", especially when previous administrations have failed to do either of them.
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 08, 2024, 06:18:24 PM
But this is taxes that are owed, and not being paid. This isn't either/or. You can go after people who are avoiding their responsibilities AND simplify the tax code. You can't say "this thing is good but it doesn't count because you didn't do another thing that would also be good", especially when previous administrations have failed to do either of them.
Kickers would hate dcm if he designed an NFL stadium.
Post by: Badger on February 08, 2024, 06:52:30 PM
Kickers would hate dcm if he designed an NFL stadium.Took me a second
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 08, 2024, 08:11:18 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 08, 2024, 08:12:19 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 08, 2024, 08:15:05 PM
https://x.com/jarvis_best/status/1755686050393894946?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
So the DoJ came to the same conclusion they did with Reagan and his Iran-Contra testimony?
Post by: Johnny English on February 08, 2024, 08:16:46 PM
Either we’re going full denial that this guy is fully senile and possibly teetering into dementia
Actually not what it said at all, it said he would be a sympathetic defendant and no one would want to punish a man who by the time it came to trial would be in his late 80s. The key message here is that a Republican counsel decided not to pursue the case, presumably because there's largely no case.
we’re admitting there are literally no qualifications/requirements to be President of the United States
Welcome to 2016
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 08, 2024, 08:17:53 PM
we’re admitting there are literally no qualifications/requirements to be President of the United States
We knew that already.
Post by: ons on February 08, 2024, 08:22:06 PM
Either we’re going full denial that this guy is fully senile and possibly teetering into dementia or we’re admitting there are literally no qualifications/requirements to be President of the United States
Neither Biden nor Trump had the mental acuity to be an effective and efficient president eight years ago, let alone in 2020. Just like last election, we're going to be voting on who we think surrounds themselves with more competent advisors and staff/who is less of a threat to the well-being of the nation. Or protest voting.
Post by: mj2sexay on February 08, 2024, 08:51:30 PM
So the DoJ came to the same conclusion they did with Reagan and his Iran-Contra testimony?
Ahahahaha now this is absolutely pathetic whataboutism.
Post by: reuben on February 08, 2024, 08:54:42 PM
Post by: MBGreen on February 08, 2024, 09:20:29 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 08, 2024, 09:35:01 PM
Ahahahaha now this is absolutely pathetic whataboutism.
First: this isn't whataboutism.
Second: When was the last time you had your walls painted?
Post by: Badger on February 08, 2024, 10:03:29 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 09, 2024, 08:33:41 AM
Neither Biden nor Trump had the mental acuity to be an effective and efficient president eight years ago, let alone in 2020. Just like last election, we're going to be voting on who we think surrounds themselves with more competent advisors and staff/who is less of a threat to the well-being of the nation. Or protest voting.
I’ll be voting for whoever is the least woke
Post by: mj2sexay on February 09, 2024, 11:09:53 AM
First: this isn't whataboutism.
Second: When was the last time you had your walls painted?
Your whole point is literally w-w-w-wat about Raygun. Citing a President who's last year in office because this President's own handpicked DOJ decided the easiest way to get him out of the same offenses they're going after his political opponent with is to just state the obvious.
The obvious of course being that he's a demented old bat.
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 09, 2024, 11:19:05 AM
Your whole point is literally w-w-w-wat about Raygun. Citing a President who's last year in office because this President's own handpicked DOJ decided the easiest way to get him out of the same offenses they're going after his political opponent with is to just state the obvious.
The obvious of course being that he's a demented old bat.
You have awful reading comprehension and we can add whataboutism to the list of words you seem to come to the internet with the expressed purpose of proving you don't know what they mean.
I'd be more than happy to hit all your walls.
Post by: mj2sexay on February 09, 2024, 11:38:33 AM
You have awful reading comprehension and we can add whataboutism to the list of words you seem to come to the internet with the expressed purpose of proving you don't know what they mean.
I'd be more than happy to hit all your walls.
[/quoteSo the DoJ came to the same conclusion they did with Reagan and his Iran-Contra testimony?
Just to clarify, that's the original quote. Somehow my reading comprehension is being called into question.
Post by: Johnny English on February 09, 2024, 01:06:39 PM
https://x.com/jarvis_best/status/1755686050393894946?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-classified-documents-report-is-partisan-and-unprofessional?ref=home?ref=home
Post by: dcm1602 on February 09, 2024, 03:45:25 PM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-classified-documents-report-is-partisan-and-unprofessional?ref=home?ref=home
For saying an on forgetful man has a poor memory.
Meanwhile there's like 750,000 charges against Trump and or him being removed off ballots.
Post by: Badger on February 10, 2024, 06:56:10 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 10, 2024, 07:16:46 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on February 10, 2024, 07:19:03 PM
Post by: MBGreen on February 15, 2024, 09:50:59 PM
Post by: reuben on February 15, 2024, 10:09:49 PM
Post by: Coach K on February 15, 2024, 10:15:01 PM
Post by: Badger on February 21, 2024, 10:16:23 PM
https://twitter.com/nielslesniewski/status/1760496132482809924?t=1cOGdyxZ5yA378VkLbsHig&s=19
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 22, 2024, 07:56:33 AM
Post by: Badger on February 22, 2024, 10:20:41 PM
https://x.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/1760425544334860739?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Post by: Badger on February 28, 2024, 11:53:30 AM
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/michigans-strong-uncommitted-vote-shows-israel-impact-biden-support-2024-02-28/
Post by: bojanglesman on February 28, 2024, 12:22:06 PM
Seems bad to be missing 101k votes in a swing state.Certainly not a good thing, but when on the ballot against Trump, most of those people will flinch and vote Biden when facing the prospect of orange turd.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/michigans-strong-uncommitted-vote-shows-israel-impact-biden-support-2024-02-28/
Post by: dcm1602 on February 29, 2024, 03:29:46 PM
Certainly not a good thing, but when on the ballot against Trump, most of those people will flinch and vote Biden when facing the prospect of orange turd.
The issue is them showing up to the polls.
Many elections, especially in recent years are won and lost based on people showing or not showing up in large numbers.
Thinking Joe Biden committed genocide against their people (or people like them) makes me think most of these people will not be filling out a ballot period
Post by: bojanglesman on February 29, 2024, 06:08:27 PM
The issue is them showing up to the polls.
Many elections, especially in recent years are won and lost based on people showing or not showing up in large numbers.
Thinking Joe Biden committed genocide against their people (or people like them) makes me think most of these people will not be filling out a ballot period
If these particular people cared to show up for the primary, they will show up for the general election. The question is whether they will write in Santa Claus or some 3rd party candidate as a protest vote or hold their nose and vote Biden. The people that won't show up probably didn't vote in the primary either. You are right that the no shows may be a huge factor. That goes for Trump and Biden.
Post by: Badger on March 02, 2024, 08:10:47 PM
If these particular people cared to show up for the primary, they will show up for the general election. The question is whether they will write in Santa Claus or some 3rd party candidate as a protest vote or hold their nose and vote Biden. The people that won't show up probably didn't vote in the primary either. You are right that the no shows may be a huge factor. That goes for Trump and Biden.
I vote in every single primary and almost never vote for a major party candidate in federal elections. Electoral college nullifies the general election for me anyway.
Post by: bojanglesman on March 02, 2024, 08:56:51 PM
Yeah, really only applies to battleground states. Most of those primary voters in Michigan will also vote in the general when they know staying home is voting for Trump. They might not like Biden, but they don't hate him bad enough to help Trump.
I vote in every single primary and almost never vote for a major party candidate in federal elections. Electoral college nullifies the general election for me anyway.
For you the whole thing is a done deal. They should allow you to pick an alternative state of your choosing to vote in so you could make a difference. You could be a resident of Ohio for a day!
Post by: dcm1602 on March 02, 2024, 10:26:39 PM
Yeah, really only applies to battleground states. Most of those primary voters in Michigan will also vote in the general when they know staying home is voting for Trump. They might not like Biden, but they don't hate him bad enough to help Trump.
For you the whole thing is a done deal. They should allow you to pick an alternative state of your choosing to vote in so you could make a difference. You could be a resident of Ohio for a day!
At that point you might as well just go with the popular vote
Post by: bojanglesman on March 02, 2024, 10:59:41 PM
At that point you might as well just go with the popular voteProbably but this way would be more fun. Some states might lose enough people voting elsewhere to become close again. These pre-election polls would be screwed.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 03, 2024, 12:37:39 AM
Probably but this way would be more fun. Some states might lose enough people voting elsewhere to become close again. These pre-election polls would be screwed.
Aka gerrymandering on steroids
Post by: bojanglesman on March 03, 2024, 10:03:15 AM
Aka gerrymandering on steroidsI guess. But with lots of steroids.
Post by: Badger on March 03, 2024, 10:41:03 AM
At that point you might as well just go with the popular voteMight as well indeed.
Post by: Badger on March 05, 2024, 07:52:51 AM
Terminal levels of delusion in the administration
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 05, 2024, 09:07:25 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 05, 2024, 09:08:35 PM
Post by: Johnny English on March 07, 2024, 11:00:38 AM
Democrat party should get relegated to the G league if they lose 2 elections to Donald Trump
If they do it's because you're a nation of idiots that prefers soundbites to facts.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-opinion-biden-accomplishment-data/?srnd=opinion&embedded-checkout=true
You've got more jobs that pay more money, better healthcare, more spending power, and better prospects, than you have had in forever. Certainly better than any Republican government has given you in your lifetime. Imagine people not voting for this to continue.
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 07, 2024, 11:01:54 AM
The issues with the Democrats and how poorly they run elections has been documented in multiple threads on this board enough times to fill a dissertation.
Post by: MBGreen on March 07, 2024, 11:06:54 AM
pee off, brother.Look to the skies
Post by: bojanglesman on March 07, 2024, 11:09:14 AM
Look to the skies
Lol, we need to have a list of hall of fame bits/quotes from here and TGG. Good times.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 07, 2024, 01:24:16 PM
If they do it's because you're a nation of idiots that prefers soundbites to facts.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-opinion-biden-accomplishment-data/?srnd=opinion&embedded-checkout=true
You've got more jobs that pay more money, better healthcare, more spending power, and better prospects, than you have had in forever. Certainly better than any Republican government has given you in your lifetime. Imagine people not voting for this to continue.
If they do it's because the DNC didn't learn their lesson with Hillary and is going to shove another terrible candidate down people's throats. Both parties are guilty of shoving really shitty candidates out there, that few people are inspired to vote for.
Nobody is voting for Biden, they're just voting against Trump. So if Biden loses, it's on the DNC
Post by: Johnny English on March 07, 2024, 01:41:16 PM
If they do it's because the DNC didn't learn their lesson with Hillary and is going to shove another terrible candidate down people's throats. Both parties are guilty of shoving really shitty candidates out there, that few people are inspired to vote for.
Nobody is voting for Biden, they're just voting against Trump. So if Biden loses, it's on the DNC
That's incorrect. Biden is not a terrible candidate, and plenty of people will vote for Biden because they can see - as the Bloomberg article clearly demonstrates - that in many ways he's doing an excellent job of the things that actually matter. "Waaaah he too old" is a stupid stick to beat him with. Warren Buffett is 93 and still smarter than pretty much the entire market - Biden is elected to make decisions, not run marathons.
Post by: dcm1602 on March 07, 2024, 04:01:23 PM
Biden is a terrible candidate and nobody is inspired to vote for him.
Hell the polling data on Biden vs Trump and Biden vs Haley tells you everything you need to know.
Haley absolutely blows Biden out of the water far better than Trump, yet nobody also wants her as president.
Just because a bunch of Biden supporters write an opinion article cherry picking data to suggest that he's good at things, doesn't actually make Biden good at those things.
Like they list immigration as a win for Biden? This is the most ridiculously stupid freaking thing possible. You can make legitimate arguments for certain things, immigration absolutely not one. And just because they claim BUT ASYLUM, one of Bidens core immigration failures was changes to asylum which makes it easier for illegals to stay here.
The fact is Trump is a terrible freaking candidate. And Biden is probably going to lose to him, so that makes Biden a REALLY freaking terrible candidate
Post by: Badger on March 07, 2024, 06:29:05 PM
That's incorrect. Biden is not a terrible candidate,
lol
Post by: MBGreen on March 07, 2024, 06:30:08 PM
#RidinWithBiden
lol
Post by: Badger on March 07, 2024, 06:36:58 PM
Dudes current approval rating is lower than the average approval rating of every president in US historyBiden is a bad president and candidate but not for any of the reasons conservatives believe.
Biden is a terrible candidate and nobody is inspired to vote for him.
Hell the polling data on Biden vs Trump and Biden vs Haley tells you everything you need to know.
Haley absolutely blows Biden out of the water far better than Trump, yet nobody also wants her as president.
Just because a bunch of Biden supporters write an opinion article cherry picking data to suggest that he's good at things, doesn't actually make Biden good at those things.
Like they list immigration as a win for Biden? This is the most ridiculously stupid freaking thing possible. You can make legitimate arguments for certain things, immigration absolutely not one. And just because they claim BUT ASYLUM, one of Bidens core immigration failures was changes to asylum which makes it easier for illegals to stay here.
The fact is Trump is a terrible freaking candidate. And Biden is probably going to lose to him, so that makes Biden a REALLY freaking terrible candidate
Post by: dcm1602 on March 07, 2024, 06:58:04 PM
Biden is a bad president and candidate but not for any of the reasons conservatives believe.
Him being old and demented, and among the all time worst presidents when it comes to the border are among two of top reasons conservatives believe. And polling data would suggest that independents believe this, as well as a fair percentage of the left.
There's a reason that polling data suggests 70% of the country thinks Biden is doing a terrible job with the border/immigration, and it's the biggest margin issue of him vs Trump.
His age/mental status is also pretty obvious as well
Post by: mj2sexay on March 07, 2024, 09:27:54 PM
Post by: Johnny English on March 08, 2024, 05:58:23 AM
RIP Lincoln Riley.
I mean, say "Laiken" and "Lincoln" out loud. They sound identical, so you're really grasping if that's your latest "evidence" of his mental acuity.
It's not like, for example, repeatedly getting mixed up between the guy who preceded you and the guy who succeeded you. That's actually a sign of mental disintegration.
Post by: Johnny English on March 08, 2024, 06:03:52 AM
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1765950647533174805?s=20
Post by: bojanglesman on March 08, 2024, 08:11:40 AM
They sent out a Stepford Wife for the rebuttal. Still some work to do before it stands a chance of passing the Turing Test.
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1765950647533174805?s=20
Man she is....something. Cringe.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 08, 2024, 08:18:18 AM
That's incorrect. Biden is not a terrible candidate, and plenty of people will vote for Biden because they can see - as the Bloomberg article clearly demonstrates - that in many ways he's doing an excellent job of the things that actually matter. "Waaaah he too old" is a stupid stick to beat him with. Warren Buffett is 93 and still smarter than pretty much the entire market - Biden is elected to make decisions, not run marathons.
Biden is a terrible candidate, full stop
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 08, 2024, 08:18:28 AM
Let’s Go Brandon
Post by: MBGreen on March 08, 2024, 08:18:50 AM
Biden is a terrible candidate, full stop
we ridin w/ biden till the apocalypse.
Post by: bojanglesman on March 08, 2024, 08:46:28 AM
Post by: MBGreen on March 08, 2024, 08:52:37 AM
The internet and media are both a blessing and a curse to politics. And many other things. You can be both more informed and overly lathered up about anything.
When do you think Taylor-Greene will be on the cover of Hustler?
Post by: bojanglesman on March 08, 2024, 09:16:58 AM
When do you think Taylor-Greene will be on the cover of Hustler?(https://media.tenor.com/93APna9udHAAAAAM/taylor-swift-naur-naur.gif)
Post by: Coach K on March 08, 2024, 03:15:05 PM
That's incorrect. Biden is not a terrible candidate
Lol
Post by: Coach K on March 08, 2024, 03:22:51 PM
Same for Trump .
I've been registered NPA non party affiliate since I was 18 because even then most Americans recognize the US Political system is WWE
They cut promos and pretend to feud and pick a red or blue tie
Then basically split the money in the back room
About 80% fall for the garbage and it's now college sports. Pick a color and scream for your team .
The whole system is predicated off of milking tax payers and gaining and not losing power . Not for what you can do with it but just to continue to ride the gravy train into the great collapse .
People are tired of the DNC standing on a moral soap box while they force neolibs down progressives throat .
The backlash will be real and they will lose to Trump if the best they can do is Biden or Newsome .
This system sucks either way you cut it and we're in the final days of modern day Rome before Blade Runner starts
Wake me up when we have term limits and campaign finance reform .
Post by: delavan on March 08, 2024, 07:04:30 PM
Biden is objectively awful for a plethora of reasons…
I've been registered NPA non party affiliate since I was 18 because …
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Old_Yeller_%281957_film_poster%29.jpg/312px-Old_Yeller_%281957_film_poster%29.jpg)
Post by: Coach K on March 08, 2024, 07:32:59 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Old_Yeller_%281957_film_poster%29.jpg/312px-Old_Yeller_%281957_film_poster%29.jpg)Lol I grew up liberal then realized they don't care about doing any of the things they sell to their constituents
Then you realize Republicans can't even hold up their fiscally responsible end of the bargain as a selling point
Then you realize super PACs and business control everything anyways
I've reached the nihilism part of capitalism and hate both sides equally .
I wouldve voted for Bernie had the DNC not rigged their primary multiple times
Now I'd vote for Trump over Biden by proxy of Trump being the only POTUS in my life who didn't tap dance for the military industrial complex .
But come November I don't think I could vote for either .
excrement 4 years ago I voted for Johnny Silverhand . Fictional Keanu Reeves character from Cyberpunk 2077
But yes Biden is a walking Manchurian candidate in a soiled diaper
Trump is a 4 Chan boomer hyped up on WW2 era amphetamines
I think the best thing I did was realize most of this means nothing . The losing sides rich people are slightly less rich and influential for 4 years
The rest is smoke and mirrors
All jokes aside I think we get Trump as POTUS and dem majority in house and senate
Itll be a glorious lose lose for everyone .
Post by: Miamipuck on March 09, 2024, 07:28:02 AM
There needs to be more options, more parties. Our system is broken. For instance, we have people in Congress on finance committees that have no idea about finance and banking. They do not represent us, they represent the party line, that's it. It's not getting better, it seems to be getting worse. It's a matter of time before they stall all government and have an eventual shut down.
There is a complete divergence between what most of the country desires and what the legislators legislates.
The old adage: Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.
Post by: Johnny English on March 09, 2024, 10:12:29 AM
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1766329114292842930
Post by: MBGreen on March 16, 2024, 10:08:25 PM
https://twitter.com/AB84/status/1769124043137966343?t=QhfcF8xPTjILuBWC0AkcMQ&s=19
Post by: delavan on April 08, 2024, 03:01:49 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Youth_vote.jpg/320px-Youth_vote.jpg)
utes polling’s down vs. 2020?
….nada problem
Post by: delavan on April 12, 2024, 06:06:25 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 12, 2024, 12:21:03 PM
Post by: Badger on April 16, 2024, 11:58:51 AM
Him being old and demented, and among the all time worst presidents when it comes to the border are among two of top reasons conservatives believe.
Boy do I have news about the guy they're running against him.
Post by: dcm1602 on April 16, 2024, 05:13:18 PM
Boy do I have news about the guy they're running against him.
Even sanctuary cities agree Trump was a substantial improvement of this drivel at the border
I think narcissistic lunatic is more fitting of Trump, with demented and senile for Biden. But they're both way too freaking old
Post by: Badger on April 16, 2024, 05:34:31 PM
Even sanctuary cities agree Trump was a substantial improvement of this drivel at the border
As a sanctuary city myself, I can attest that there was no noticeable difference in who was living here under Bush, Obama, Trump, or Biden.
Post by: dcm1602 on April 16, 2024, 06:39:55 PM
As a sanctuary city myself, I can attest that there was no noticeable difference in who was living here under Bush, Obama, Trump, or Biden.
I have zero idea how you can make that claim
With Trump you had COVID basically the entire planet on lockdown. And under Biden your have the bussing thing going on.
So even if border policy didn't change (which it clearly did) those things along should present a world of difference
Post by: Badger on April 17, 2024, 05:44:20 PM
I have zero idea how you can make that claim
I can do so much more credibly than people who don't live here.
It's a city of 8 million people, I don't know how many bus loads it would take to fundamentally change anything.
Post by: dcm1602 on April 18, 2024, 03:17:22 PM
I can do so much more credibly than people who don't live here.
It's a city of 8 million people, I don't know how many bus loads it would take to fundamentally change anything.
My point is anecdotal evidence probably is less useful than it already is, when you're comparing covid times to shuttle bus times.
Regardless of anecdotal evidence, the numbers at the border speak for themselves
Monthly numbers are in the ballpark of 400-800% higher than they were pre Biden
Post by: MBGreen on April 23, 2024, 03:22:42 PM
Post by: MBGreen on April 23, 2024, 05:09:52 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on April 23, 2024, 05:16:40 PM
Wonder what the numbers say
Post by: MBGreen on April 23, 2024, 05:29:07 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on April 23, 2024, 07:04:44 PM
Nobody moves the goal posts better than dcm...a true aristocrat plying his trade.
Moving the goalpost?
You're talking about something completely retarded one guy said, vs something retarded one guys policies did
Post by: MBGreen on April 24, 2024, 08:31:14 AM
Moving the goalpost?
You're talking about something completely retarded one guy said, vs something retarded one guys policies did
I'm not talking about anything...i posted the tweets because irony is funny to me.
Not everything posted has to spark a useless debate.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 24, 2024, 12:40:53 PM
I’m Ron Burgundy?
Post by: bojanglesman on April 26, 2024, 03:55:00 PM
Racist
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1387407072560652293?s=19
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/health/fda-menthol-cigarettes/index.html
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