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New York Jets Football => ...And The Home Of The Jets => Topic started by: Badger on July 26, 2020, 10:42:48 AM
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I figure we can have a thread purely devoted to cap space debates and speculation.
https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1287407890123444226?s=19
https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1287408490017939461?s=19
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https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1287408490017939461?s=19
I think the probability of re-signing Jenkins is low. He already seemed to have a.hiher evaluation of his value than the tram did this season and re-signed this time as a last resort. If his numbers stay the same then he is isn't going to get a better long-term deal from the Jets and if they go up then he's going ro look for a huge pay day.
I don't think we'll be bringing back both Dessir and Poole.
Davis was supposedly brought in to replace Maye so it seems like they would be occupying the same space on the roster; I think we see Maye walk in that scenario.
If Fant turns out to be a solid RT then we can use our draft picks to upgrade over Perriman.
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If we didn’t have seemingly 10+ guys on 1 year deals, I’d feel a lot better about being 7th in cap space going into next offseason.
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The mission from here on out is clearly to build through the draft. We'll augment our roster through some free agent additions but hopefully most of the cap will be devoted to resigning our homegrown talent. Big Doug has quite the job ahead of him but I'm hopeful he's up to the task.
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WR, CB and EDGE will definitely be major targets.
I'm hoping Fart works out so we can breathe easy on exterior OLine for at least a couple of seasons.
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WR, CB and EDGE will definitely be major targets.
I'm hoping Fart works out so we can breathe easy on exterior OLine for at least a couple of seasons.
This mf said Fart
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Fart .....breathe easy....
Uhuhuh
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Teams with the most estimated salary cap space in 2021
1. Jaguars- $76.8M
2. Colts- $66.5M
3. Patriots- $64M
4. Jets- $60.5M
5. Football Team- $50.6M
6. Ravens- $44.7M
7. Broncos- $29.5M
8. Dolphins- $27.7M
9. Bengals- $26.9M
10. Browns- $24.7M
-JasonOTC
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Better freaking spend it.
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Where is dcm?
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Probably forgot his password again
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I see you lurking plz update us on George Farts cap hit
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OTC updated with estimated $180.5 million expected cap.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210207/881dc171be7e10a4f25149a6e082a51b.jpg)
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Presumably based on this:
https://www.tsn.ca/report-2021-nfl-salary-cap-expected-around-180m-181m-1.1589375
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Saints roster gon' get raided. They can't afford a wet fart, but I say that every year and they manage to mortgage the future somehow.
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Saints roster gon' get raided. They can't afford a wet fart, but I say that every year and they manage to mortgage the future somehow.
They've got some easy restructures with big contracts like Ramzycyzyzycyk and Alexander, and if Brees retires that will probably free up a chunk, but $75M is a big cap hole to climb out of.
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They've got some easy restructures with big contracts like Ramzycyzyzycyk and Alexander, and if Brees retires that will probably free up a chunk, but $75M is a big cap hole to climb out of.
We should trade for Ramczyk
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We should trade for Ramczyk
#TeamRamrod
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#TeamRamrod
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Ramrod 2021.
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We should trade for Ramczyk
If we weren’t trying to trade for Watson, I’d send a pick for Ramczyk in a heartbeat
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This thread is my cue to go into hibernation for the off season, or until something actually happens involving the Jets.
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This thread is my cue to go into hibernation for the off season
Finally
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This thread is my cue to go into hibernation for the off season, or until something actually happens involving the Jets.
Finally
the knicks just got d-rose
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Cap is likely to be $180-181 million (was projected by most to be $175) https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1358454929237630976
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
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7m
NFL informed teams today the salary cap this season will be a minimum of $180 million.
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
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NFL informed teams today the salary cap this season will be a minimum of $180 million.
Good for us. If it had been the $185-190M that was rumoured in some parts it would have given other teams a bit more room for manoeuvre. $180M is low enough that we'll have a bit more financial muscle to flex than many in FA.
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Good for us. If it had been the $185-190M that was rumoured in some parts it would have given other teams a bit more room for manoeuvre. $180M is low enough that we'll have a bit more financial muscle to flex than many in FA.
We're projected to have the third most cap space (before cuts).
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Is that the least amount we can spend or the lowest estimated value for the most amount we can spend?
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We're projected to have the third most cap space (before cuts).
Yeah - there are four teams with cap space in excess of $60M (Colts, Jags, Patriots, us) and then a big gap to Washington in 5th who have less than $40M. 8 teams are $20M or more in the hole and need to do a bunch of cuts and restructuring just to be able to afford their rookies, and the Saints should probably just quit and go home now with the mess they're in.
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Is that the least amount we can spend or the lowest estimated value for the most amount we can spend?
it's essentially the cap floor for all teams. Nobody knows what the ceiling is yet.
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Is that the least amount we can spend or the lowest estimated value for the most amount we can spend?
it's essentially the cap floor for all teams. Nobody knows what the ceiling is yet.
It's the latter of what Cato was saying.
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it's essentially the cap floor for all teams. Nobody knows what the ceiling is yet.
K. Gracias.
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1370449651296473088?s=19
Just like that, cap space is cleared and the Chiefs can go shopping for a tackle.
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1370449651296473088?s=19
Just like that, cap space is cleared and the Chiefs can go shopping for a tackle.
They were like negative 6 million
If Mahomes freed up 17 million, they'd likely have little more than enoguh to sign rookies
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We are crushing it
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$50.3M cap space remaining as per movieboy
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https://twitter.com/Willpa11/status/1453780705981472768
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https://twitter.com/Willpa11/status/1453780705981472768
The Enunwa contract... woof
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Lost73
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Replying to
@Willpa11
God dam we still paying Trumaine Johnson... does he have to wear a ski mask to deposit those checks..
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https://twitter.com/Willpa11/status/1481708100558196738?t=v_JontnRvYqFpXSDwQWDew&s=19
Gat dayum I forgot about all that dead money.
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https://twitter.com/Willpa11/status/1481708100558196738?t=v_JontnRvYqFpXSDwQWDew&s=19
Gat datum I forgot about all that dead money.
Nearly $27M. Dayum indeed.
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Can't wait to sign some guys to be dead money in 2024.
Quincy is the craziest one to me. Got hurt in 1st quarter of 2019 and we are still paying him.
I had forgotten about the existence of Tremaine Johnson until that tweet.
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https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/1483121093942591491?s=21
This was a really poor team for using all of our cap space. Hopefully some of that was dead money
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https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/1483121093942591491?s=21
This was a really poor team for using all of our cap space. Hopefully some of that was dead money
$27 million, unless you were joking.
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https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/1483121093942591491?s=21
This was a really poor team for using all of our cap space. Hopefully some of that was dead money
$36M in dead money last year. Almost $24M to Trumaine Johnson, Darnold, Bell, Enunwa and Osemele.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-york-jets/
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$36M in dead money last year. Almost $24M to Trumaine Johnson, Darnold, Bell, Enunwa and Osemele.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-york-jets/
Enooooooooooonpay
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As things stand we have $1.5M in dead money next season, and I'm only seeing maybe another couple of million being added from likely cuts. There are no big disaster contracts that we will have to dump.
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$36M in dead money last year. Almost $24M to Trumaine Johnson, Darnold, Bell, Enunwa and Osemele.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-york-jets/
Yeah, this. I was wrong.
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As things stand we have $1.5M in dead money next season, and I'm only seeing maybe another couple of million being added from likely cuts. There are no big disaster contracts that we will have to dump.
I think we only really have 1 “bad” contract on the books, in CJ Mosely. He will be here next year barring some incredible trade offer to us, but the year after he will be cut for a decent savings and dead cap hit if memory serves
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It’s not a bad contract if the player is actually good.
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It’s not a bad contract if the player is actually good.
Overpaying a good player is an affront to the Cap Gods and must be appeased with sacrifice (by cutting Crowder).
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Overpaying a good player is an affront to the Cap Gods and must be appeased with sacrifice (by cutting Crowder).
I think Rankins is the new sacrifice.
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It’s not a bad contract if the player is actually good.
He's not THAT good
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He's not THAT good
I wrote out a whole post about CJ Mosley and how I’m not worried about his contract and how since at least he produces on the field and the Jets don’t have many good players at this point in time to allocate that money to anyways….and then took another look at what’s remaining on his contract and deleted that post
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2021: $7.5M
2022: $17.5M
2023: $18.5M
2024: $18.5M
(https://i.ibb.co/ftmdNnR/5648-EDBF-419-C-4-B39-8431-72934215-F233.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J2XjpyL)
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2021: $7.5M
2022: $17.5M
2023: $18.5M
2024: $18.5M
Negligible dead cap after 2022. If he's no good anymore by then or we have a worthy replacement then bai.
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(https://i.ibb.co/ftmdNnR/5648-EDBF-419-C-4-B39-8431-72934215-F233.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J2XjpyL)
An absolute slob
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An absolute slob
I usually have 1 coffee per day (usually in the morning). Any more and i get dizzy from the caffeine. Maccagnan is a freaking mutant.
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I usually have 1 coffee per day (usually in the morning). Any more and i get dizzy from the caffeine. Maccagnan is a freaking mutant.
It's just disgusting because you know half of those cups are several days old. Throw that excrement away.
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It's just disgusting because you know half of those cups are several days old. Throw that excrement away.
lol
i used to work with a guy who never got rid of his dirty coffee cups in his cubicle. It was gross. We counted at least 80 cups....strewn under his desk and on his desk. Someone reported him to HR. He was eventually fired for sexual harassment.
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It's a serial killer trait
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It's a serial killer trait
He shared the same haircut as Kenny Powers
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He shared the same haircut as Kenny Powers
Also, a serial killer trait
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It's just disgusting because you know half of those cups are several days old. Throw that excrement away.
You also know they're not all empty.
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He was eventually fired for sexual harassment.
This dude def stuck his dick in a coffee cup
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This dude def stuck his dick in a coffee cup
Seriously was he sexually harassing the employees or the cups? We need to know.
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2021: $7.5M
2022: $17.5M
2023: $18.5M
2024: $18.5M
(https://i.ibb.co/ftmdNnR/5648-EDBF-419-C-4-B39-8431-72934215-F233.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J2XjpyL)
lol what a freaking mess.
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2021: $7.5M
2022: $17.5M
2023: $18.5M
2024: $18.5M
(https://i.ibb.co/ftmdNnR/5648-EDBF-419-C-4-B39-8431-72934215-F233.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J2XjpyL)
And of course the only reason 2021 isn’t $17.5 million is because he opted out and he got his $10 million bonus last year to not play football.
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https://twitter.com/Jason_OTC/status/1597638227892244480?s=19
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Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero
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The NFL informed teams today that the 2023 salary cap will be a record $224.8 million per club, sources tell me and @RapSheet
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That’s up from $208.2 million in 2022, $182.5M in 2021 (COVID adjustment), 198.2M in 2020 and $188.2M in 2019.
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sheesh
Get the Quinnen deal done
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Yet we're still over the cap.
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Probably also makes a Rodgers deal a little easier, as it helps GB eat the dead money without completely destroying their ability to sign anyone. Not that they bother much with FA anyway.
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This helps with a bunch of things. Still have a lot of work to do, though.
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https://twitter.com/DWAZ73/status/1630618220389343232?t=pG7js7Av5vwYp2gH09Vmqw&s=19
dcm can take the rest of the offseason off. See you in Sept, spud.
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https://twitter.com/DWAZ73/status/1630618220389343232?t=pG7js7Av5vwYp2gH09Vmqw&s=19
dcm can take the rest of the offseason off. See you in Sept, spud.
He said after the combine, which is like next week. No rest for DCM.
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I don't understand how negative cap space is a good place to be
Especially before giving out a monster QB contract, a Q extension, and signing all the draft picks.
I understand we can easily free up a chunk of cash
But I don't think you can call our cap situation anything than OK
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He said after the combine, which is like next week. No rest for DCM.
You woke him....way to go.
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I don't understand how negative cap space is a good place to be
Especially before giving out a monster QB contract, a Q extension, and signing all the draft picks.
I understand we can easily free up a chunk of cash
But I don't think you can call our cap situation anything than OK
Douglas has made zero cap moves yet and we are basically flat with the cap. He has tons of options to create space by cuts and restructures, without becoming the Saints. I'm betting some of these contracts had restructure or extension possibilities planned when they were made.
With some restructures to Mosley and Lawson's contracts, along with cutting Corey Davis, we will be able to sign the draft class, get Q a contract, and sign Carr or Rodgers. Q will likely have a lower cap number this year on a new contract compared to future years. Same with Rodgers/Carr/Jacoby Brissett.
The only move we know will happen right now is cutting Davis. That gets us $10 million under the cap by itself, and that's before considering cutting Berrios, Jordan Whitehead, Duane Brown, freaking Braden Mann, and Ashtyn Davis. We may cut all, some or none of them. We may possibly bail on Lawson too since he has a low dead money number and hopefully a replacement in the waiting. Hopefully not though.
I'm resigned to the fact that Mosley's contract means he will likely be here for a while, but I think he'll be solid for a few more years. Will he be overpaid? Yes, but he's worth overpaying. He's smart, a leader, and still plays pretty well for his age.
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Douglas has made zero cap moves yet and we are basically flat with the cap. He has tons of options to create space by cuts and restructures, without becoming the Saints. I'm betting some of these contracts had restructure or extension possibilities planned when they were made.
With some restructures to Mosley and Lawson's contracts, along with cutting Corey Davis, we will be able to sign the draft class, get Q a contract, and sign Carr or Rodgers. Q will likely have a lower cap number this year on a new contract compared to future years. Same with Rodgers/Carr/Jacoby Brissett.
The only move we know will happen right now is cutting Davis. That gets us $10 million under the cap by itself, and that's before considering cutting Berrios, Jordan Whitehead, Duane Brown, freaking Braden Mann, and Ashtyn Davis. We may cut all, some or none of them. We may possibly bail on Lawson too since he has a low dead money number and hopefully a replacement in the waiting. Hopefully not though.
I'm resigned to the fact that Mosley's contract means he will likely be here for a while, but I think he'll be solid for a few more years. Will he be overpaid? Yes, but he's worth overpaying. He's smart, a leader, and still plays pretty well for his age.
Literally any team can restructure contracts to move cap burdens to future years
I don't see how this makes it ideal
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No. You can of course but it comes to bite you in the derriere if you do it too often or too much. The Jets' don't have that problem now, thus giving them flexibility to work the cap better.
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Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
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S Jordan Whitehead restructured his contract, creating $5.3M in cap savings, per OTC. Converted non-guaranteed base salary into signing bonus, dropping cap charge to $4.9M from $10.2M. Added 4 void years for cap purposes, meaning a $3.3M hit next yr when deal voids. #Jets
#moarcap
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Q extension incoming
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Q extension incoming
i'll get the lube
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Field Yates
@FieldYates
Players with restructured deals in recent days with their updated cap charges for 2023:
Jets CB Bryce Hall: $1.097M (down from $2.82M)
Doug wringing out every last drop of cap space.
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Like, y, tho?
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Like, y, tho?
"Do you like your job? Do you want to keep it, or do you want to be on the street looking for a new one? Because you're not worth nearly $3M a year, but I'm a nice guy so I'll let you kick $2M into next year and you can have it if you can prove you're worth me keeping you around."
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"Do you like your job? Do you want to keep it, or do you want to be on the street looking for a new one? Because you're not worth nearly $3M a year, but I'm a nice guy so I'll let you kick $2M into next year and you can have it if you can prove you're worth me keeping you around."
But y tho? We already had plenty of cap space.
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But y tho? We already had plenty of cap space.
Two reasons, we had another CB we liked almost as much as Hall, and gave him a choice of matching that salary or go find a new job.
Money rolls over to next year. It seems we are expected to be “tight” on space next year as we have key guys to bring back/restructure and are certainly going to want to have new additions. But we shall see what we end up doing with the cash this year. But I really freaking hope it’s Mike Evans.
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Two reasons, we had another CB we liked almost as much as Hall, and gave him a choice of matching that salary or go find a new job.
Money rolls over to next year. It seems we are expected to be “tight” on space next year as we have key guys to bring back/restructure and are certainly going to want to have new additions. But we shall see what we end up doing with the cash this year. But I really freaking hope it’s Mike Evans.
I dont think enough people realize this. If you don't spend the cap it moves to the following year. Seeing as guys like huff need to be paid and our only tackles on the roster in 24 are Warren and Mitchel we need every dollar we can ger
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https://x.com/Jason_OTC/status/1749464920649867620?s=20
Explanation of why cap isn't fake long-term.
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https://x.com/Jason_OTC/status/1749464920649867620?s=20
Explanation of why cap isn't fake long-term.
this is cap
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Jason at OTC wrote an article about void years and some teams that could save some cap space by extending players with several void years in their contracts. Not much, but might be an option if they decide to bring back Whitehead. He's still 26 years old, although it feels like he should be 32 in my head. I think Jefferson has a decent chance to come back here too, but I'm not sure it would be an extension.
The third team surprised me and that team is the Jets. The Jets have four voiding contracts with up to $11.15 million in savings but other than Jordan Whitehead ($2.5 million saved) I don’t think there would be a big push to return the others. The other names are Carl Lawson, Duane Brown, and Quinton Jefferson.
https://overthecap.com/creating-cap-space-by-extending-players-with-void-years
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Along with the Tomlinson cut, if we make the moves we are expected to (cut Uzomah, trade Zach), we will have over $31 mil in cap space. Where we can really win is if we can trade JFM. We'd be up to $38 mil of cap space, wouldn't really need to replace him because we could shift the linemen around and let McDonald play more. Plus we might get a mid to late-round draft pick for him. I don't think we'd get a high pick because he would have a fairly high salary for his new team to take on.
This isn't even considering the contract renegotiations, extensions and new deals that could open up a lot more space. Cap won't be a problem for the Jets, it's a matter of how aggressive they want to be at the expense of the future. Douglas has to decide how much he's willing to risk his future job security for current job security.
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Where we can really win is if we can trade JFM.
We can only do that if we re-sign Huff.
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We can only do that if we re-sign Huff.
Good point, I guess McDonald would have to take on Huff and JFM's snaps at DE, which isn't reasonable. But at least we'd have a chunk of change to overpay Huff if we trade JFM. But we'd need to nail down Huff first because we need JFM is we lose Huff.
Honestly, I don't know if there's a price we could pay that would have Huff willing to come back here. I don't think he hates the team or anything, I think he wants to leave to a different system where he'd get more snaps. Even if we traded JFM, I don't know that Saleh would give the playing time he wants.
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We can only do that if we re-sign Huff.
But we're going to have to trade JFM to re-sign Huff...but we can't re-sign Huff unless we trade JFM...and we have to re-sign Huff to trade JFM...but we probably can't afford to re-sign Hu...
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But we're going to have to trade JFM to re-sign Huff...but we can't re-sign Huff unless we trade JFM...and we have to re-sign Huff to trade JFM...but we probably can't afford to re-sign Hu...
It's not the money, it's the playing time. Huff isn't going to want to come back here and get part time snaps.
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It's not the money, it's the playing time. Huff isn't going to want to come back here and get part time snaps.
No.
If we kept both, JFM would lose edge snaps to play inside and Clemmons would just lose snaps. The starters would be Huff and Johnson.
We also haven't heard Huff complain about the rotation once and he just put up double digit sacks in it.
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freak Tapatalk.
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No.
If we kept both, JFM would lose edge snaps to play inside and Clemmons would just lose snaps. The starters would be Huff and Johnson.
We also haven't heard Huff complain about the rotation once and he just put up double digit sacks in it.
This. Dude is thriving the way we do things. I fully suspect he goes wherever the money is best, not where he gets to play the most.
Now one could easily argue he is worth the most money to the team that plans to play him the most, which is why he would go there. But if our offer is the same as say Houston and he’s gonna play 75% of snaps there vs 55% here, I think he’s staying put.
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https://x.com/zackblatt/status/1768258736840208553?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Turns out we couldn’t have afforded any of the high priced FAs
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https://x.com/zackblatt/status/1768258736840208553?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Turns out we couldn’t have afforded any of the high priced FAs
ThE CaP iSn'T rEaL!1!
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I do wonder why we didn't restructure some of these deals earlier. Maybe they didn't know how much they were needing since we didn't know what players we'd have a shot at. excrement, I don't know, I ain't no GM.
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ThE CaP iSn'T rEaL!1!
We did almost none of the things we could have done to free up cap space. Money was there if we wanted it. How much “pushing to the future” we wanted to do is debatable. But we had options to get us more cash and we didn’t take those avenues before FA started
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I know Douglas doesn't have the good fortune of worrying about next year, but we are going to have to potentially pay Sauce, Breece, JJ, and Garrett Wilson, starting as soon as next year. It's the only downside to hitting on all those guys at once. At the same time, we are in win-now mode with Rodgers and this defense. Those 2 things don't mesh well, but a good GM can't ignore either of those mandates. I highly doubt we'll find a way to re-sign all 4 of those guys. Hopefully we can keep GW and Sauce at least.
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I know Douglas doesn't have the good fortune of worrying about next year, but we are going to have to potentially pay Sauce, Breece, JJ, and Garrett Wilson, starting as soon as next year. It's the only downside to hitting on all those guys at once. At the same time, we are in win-now mode with Rodgers and this defense. Those 2 things don't mesh well, but a good GM can't ignore either of those mandates. I highly doubt we'll find a way to re-sign all 4 of those guys. Hopefully we can keep GW and Sauce at least.
It has to be spaced out and well planned financially.
Next year Breece gets extended as his deal is shorter and I would target Sauce as well and say he’s a (at least) 2 time all pro. Then the year after Garrett and JJ get extended before their fifth year option kicks in.
Essentially that’s why I expected a ton of essentially 2 year deals this year on big time vets so the money starts coming off the books. And there is a new TV deal coming to expand the cap even further in the next couple years.
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I know Douglas doesn't have the good fortune of worrying about next year, but we are going to have to potentially pay Sauce, Breece, JJ, and Garrett Wilson, starting as soon as next year. It's the only downside to hitting on all those guys at once. At the same time, we are in win-now mode with Rodgers and this defense. Those 2 things don't mesh well, but a good GM can't ignore either of those mandates. I highly doubt we'll find a way to re-sign all 4 of those guys. Hopefully we can keep GW and Sauce at least.
A new GM/HC will want their guys while determining who to keep in our core. I think everything will be on the table if we start over. The key being if you're going to move on from previously untouchable players, you better get good compensation in return.
Make no mistake, it will be a scorched earth approach if Douglas/Saleh get fired next year.
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We did almost none of the things we could have done to free up cap space. Money was there if we wanted it. How much “pushing to the future” we wanted to do is debatable. But we had options to get us more cash and we didn’t take those avenues before FA started
Do you think that might have been because a lot of them were bad ideas?
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Do you think that might have been because a lot of them were bad ideas?
Extending CJ and DJ and restructuring Q are not bad ideas. Every single way to save a penny? Some definitely would age terribly for us for sure
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Extending CJ and DJ and restructuring Q are not bad ideas. Every single way to save a penny? Some definitely would age terribly for us for sure
Unless you're going to elaborate on what you mean by restructuring the contract that Quinnen Williams signed last season, I'm forced to assume that you're using the word as a magic button.
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Unless you're going to elaborate on what you mean by restructuring the contract that Quinnen Williams signed last season, I'm forced to assume that you're using the word as a magic button.
Convert part of his base salary this year to a signing or roster bonus, thus allowing us to spread his current 2024 cap hit out over several years. At this point he is the best guy to do that with as we plan to be committed to him as a her for several more years anyways.
Doing the same thing with JFM is a possibility as well. BUT is he a guy we want to be tied to in 2026? I don’t think that’s true right now, and it certainly wouldn’t be if we end up with a new regime in 2025. Hes the perfect example of a guy you wouldn’t want to restructure and be tied to long term.
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We did almost none of the things we could have done to free up cap space. Money was there if we wanted it. How much “pushing to the future” we wanted to do is debatable. But we had options to get us more cash and we didn’t take those avenues before FA started
Aside from Robert Hunt this FA class sucked imo
Nobody worth overpaying or going all in on unless it was Higgins lol
Which we didn't have capital for plus a major extension
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I'd extend DJ Reed and Michael Carter before I overpaid for most of this FA class
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A new GM/HC will want their guys while determining who to keep in our core. I think everything will be on the table if we start over. The key being if you're going to move on from previously untouchable players, you better get good compensation in return.
Make no mistake, it will be a scorched earth approach if Douglas/Saleh get fired next year.
If we hire a new GM and he wants to get rid of Wilson, Sauce or JJ, he's going to be really excrement and we'll be in hell for even more years. Breece, as good as he is, could make sense.
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I'd extend DJ Reed and Michael Carter before I overpaid for most of this FA class
I wasn't enamored with the T options in this FA class but I would have been much happier with the guards we couldn't afford (especially Onwenu, Hunt, or Runyan) over whatever deal we gave the Ravens' cast-off penalty machine, or having the financial option to be competitive for another WR which we really freaking need.
Reed might be a good option for that but that's assuming he wants to do the team a favor with a friendlier contract. He's only 27 and he can easily get another big deal after this season. Just because it would be great for the team doesn't mean it would be good for him, especially with him heading into free agency when the Jets are possibly resetting with a whole new front office and coaching staff. Does he really want to be locked into that?
Carter is in the last year of his rookie deal, I'm not sure how likely he would be to agree to a deal actually lowers his cap number this year when he's on the cusp of his first free agency after playing for a team that has been a excrement show.
Mosely is really the only one on the roster who was poised to do the team any favors. He's likely in the last year of his prime, there's actually incentive there for him to extend for more guaranteed money from us vs. any of the other names mentioned here.
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Quinnen can be restructured and push cap down the road.
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Quinnen can be restructured and push cap down the road.
More Cap space??
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• Tyron Smith: $6.5M guaranteed
• John Simpson: $6M AAV
• Morgan Moses: $5.5M cap hit
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Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
Compensation updates:
CB Isaiah Oliver: 1 year/$2.5M ($2.2M gtd)
S Chuck Clark: 1 year/$2M ($705K gtd)
TE Kenny Yeboah: 1 year/$1.4M ($225K gtd)
G Jake Hanson: 1 year/$1.1M ($45K gtd)
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$45K guaranteed is hilarious
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We are paying Isiah Oliver more money than Chuck Clark? Wow that surprises the hell out of me.
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• Tyron Smith: $6.5M guaranteed
• John Simpson: $6M AAV
• Morgan Moses: $5.5M cap hit
Why are we comparing three different contract measures?
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Why are we comparing three different contract measures?
Probably because those are the metrics they know. We don’t know what we expect to pay Smith and we don’t yet know what Simpsons year 1 cap hit is.
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https://x.com/spotrac/status/1769179952371450331?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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Why are we comparing three different contract measures?
I thought it was self explanatory
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https://x.com/spotrac/status/1769179952371450331?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
That's a bit old. We have around 20 mil.
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https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-york-jets
OTC has us at $9.19M in cap space.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/cap/_/year/2024
Spotrac says $10M