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New York Jets Football => ...And The Home Of The Jets => Topic started by: Johnny English on May 22, 2020, 02:59:47 PM
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https://www.tsn.ca/report-new-york-jets-sign-quarterback-joe-flacco-to-a-one-year-deal-1.1478312
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I'M SO HAPPY WITH THIS
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GREAT signing! Let’s go!
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I thought he was crippled
Edit: just until sept
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That’s a solid deal to put a former SB MVP in the same room with Darnold
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I thought he was crippled
Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
New #Jets QB Joe Flacco had neck surgery in early April and isn’t expected to be cleared until near the start of the regular season. But the plan was to sign sooner than later. Nobody’s on the field now anyway, so he gets in virtual meetings and prepares to back up Sam Darnold.
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Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
New #Jets QB Joe Flacco had neck surgery in early April and isn’t expected to be cleared until near the start of the regular season. But the plan was to sign sooner than later. Nobody’s on the field now anyway, so he gets in virtual meetings and prepares to back up Sam Darnold.
Yeah...I edited my post
Love the signing.
Reminds me of when we brought in Mark Brunell and his Stetson hat for Mark Sanchez
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Yeah...I edited my post
Love the signing.
Reminds me of when we brought in Mark Brunell and his Stetson hat for Mark Sanchez
I don't know if Flacco has a daughter but I doubt she's Brunell standard.
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Yeah...I edited my post
Love the signing.
Reminds me of when we brought in Mark Brunell and his Stetson hat for Mark Sanchez
That's why I wanted to bring in a veteran that wasn't David Fales. Big fan of this signing even though I hope Flacco never actually plays.
Granted, it was more important to have a veteran around a rookie Sanchez than a 3rd-year Darnold, but I still think it can't hurt.
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That's why I wanted to bring in a veteran that wasn't David Fales. Big fan of this signing even though I hope Flacco never actually plays.
Granted, it was more important to have a veteran around a rookie Sanchez than a 3rd-year Darnold, but I still think it can't hurt.
We’re on the same page
Fales is basically preseason game fodder now.
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Jets have 5 QBs on their depth chart now...I forgot about Mike White.
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Jets have 5 QBs on their depth chart now...I forgot about Mike White.
White Mike is easily forgettable.
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Meh. Hopefully he stays on the bench...assuming he’s healthy enough to make the team.
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Meh. Hopefully he stays on the bench...assuming he’s healthy enough to make the team.
He’s solid depth and a veteran presence. Exactly what we needed.
And we all hope he carries a clipboard like Jim Sorgi all season.
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He’s solid depth and a veteran presence. Exactly what we needed.
And we all hope he carries a clipboard like Jim Sorgi all season.
I’m more worried that we just signed Enunwa’s neck rehab buddy.
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I’m more worried that we just signed Enunwa’s neck rehab buddy.
We’re not relying on Flacco to be a starter like we did with Enunwa. Plus, his contract is a drop in the bucket.
If we have to rely on Flacco to start for the majority of the season, we have bigger problems.
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I’m more worried that we just signed Enunwa’s neck rehab buddy.
Just having him in QB meetings alone is the most important.
Unlike McCown, Flacco's actually won a championship and he's been a franchise QB.
Even if they're held together by duct tape, it's important to surround Sam with quality veterans like Flacco and Gore.
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Just having him in QB meetings alone is the most important.
Unlike McCown, Flacco's actually won a championship and he's been a franchise QB.
Even if they're held together by duct tape, it's important to surround Sam with quality veterans like Flacco and Gore.
Plus...in this scenario, Sam isn’t looking over his shoulder. Like he would be if Cam Newton were signed.
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Plus...in this scenario, Sam isn’t looking over his shoulder. Like he would be if Cam Newton were signed.
The only quarterback that Sam Darnold should see over his shoulder is Trevor Lawrence.
He needs to step it up and take control of this franchise in 2020.
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The only quarterback that Sam Darnold should see over his shoulder is Trevor Lawrence.
He needs to step it up and take control of this franchise in 2020.
Sam will realize his full potential...when Gase and Loggains are shown the door.
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Great to hear. Excited to have a guy who actually has played at the highest level out there to help Sam elevate his game.
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Last 2 years, we're 0-6 when Darnold doesn't play.
Flacco at least give us a chance, even if he is washed. Washed Flacco is still significantly better than prime Luke Falk.
And only $1.5 million.
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I honestly think this is the best free agent signing we made this year, especially at this price. Sam's not a greenhorn any more, he needs a vet to push him and who can run his playbook if he goes down but also one who has seen it all and wants to be the coach in the QB room and on the sideline. This isn't a Gase signing, this is a smart signing.
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I honestly think this is the best free agent signing we made this year, especially at this price. Sam's not a greenhorn any more, he needs a vet to push him and who can run his playbook if he goes down but also one who has seen it all and wants to be the coach in the QB room and on the sideline. This isn't a Gase signing, this is a smart signing.
Connor McGovern is better.
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Connor McGovern is better.
Connor McGovern might be good, but he has played one season at center in the NFL and is being $9M a year to do it for us. More than any other FA we signed I want him to be good because it was our single biggest problem going into FA.
Joe Flacco is a Super Bowl winning quarterback being paid one sixth of that to help our incredibly talented but slightly flawed and slightly vulnerable franchise QB become the future of the club for the next 10+ years.
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Connor McGovern might be good, but he has played one season at center in the NFL and is being $9M a year to do it for us. More than any other FA we signed I want him to be good because it was our single biggest problem going into FA.
Joe Flacco is a Super Bowl winning quarterback being paid one sixth of that to help our incredibly talented but slightly flawed and slightly vulnerable franchise QB become the future of the club for the next 10+ years.
The Flacco signing isn’t better than our FA OL upgrades....stop.
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Connor McGovern might be good, but he has played one season at center in the NFL and is being $9M a year to do it for us. More than any other FA we signed I want him to be good because it was our single biggest problem going into FA.
Joe Flacco is a Super Bowl winning quarterback being paid one sixth of that to help our incredibly talented but slightly flawed and slightly vulnerable franchise QB become the future of the club for the next 10+ years.
You are wrong for 2 reasons.
1) You're a Brit
2) I'm drunk
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The Flacco signing isn’t better than our FA OL upgrades....stop.
McGovern might end up being an excellent signing and van Roten could be good as well. They're definitely both upgrades on what we had before. Fant looks like an expensive insurance policy and Lewis is likely the same level of mediocre as he was last year.
Flacco is a colossal upgrade on Fales and Siemian and whoever that queynte was that was the excuse for why Gase wasn't at fault for us being excrement, and he's costing (in NFL terms) pocket change.
Flacco is the best signing of FA until we see people in pads.
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Flacco is the best signing of FA until we see people in pads.
I'm happy with the Flacco signing. Calling a guy who will ideally not take a single snap for us the best signing of free agency is absurd.
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McGovern might end up being an excellent signing and van Roten could be good as well. They're definitely both upgrades on what we had before. Fant looks like an expensive insurance policy and Lewis is likely the same level of mediocre as he was last year.
Flacco is a colossal upgrade on Fales and Siemian and whoever that queynte was that was the excuse for why Gase wasn't at fault for us being excrement, and he's costing (in NFL terms) pocket change.
Flacco is the best signing of FA until we see people in pads.
Still not the most important signing...sorry.
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I'm happy with the Flacco signing. Calling a guy who will ideally not take a single snap for us the best signing of free agency is absurd.
That’s a bingo
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Still not the most important signing...sorry.
Also not the fattest signing, but I didn't make that argument either.
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I'm happy with the Flacco signing. Calling a guy who will ideally not take a single snap for us the best signing of free agency is absurd.
Depends whether you think the only thing that matters is what he does on the field. But I'm certainly willing to hear arguments as to why you think that Adam Gase and Patton Oswalt will help Sam become an elite NFL quarterback because as yet no one has made a remotely good one.
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Depends whether you think the only thing that matters is what he does on the field. But I'm certainly willing to hear arguments as to why you think that Adam Gase and Patton Oswalt will help Sam become an elite NFL quarterback because as yet no one has made a remotely good one.
You’re putting a lot of stock into Flacco’s role here...probably more so than Flacco himself
He’s a veteran presence that will hopefully be a good influence on Sam.
He’s a good signing, but not the best signing this offseason....not even freaking close.
Our OL upgrades were more necessary and clearly our better signings.
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Depends whether you think the only thing that matters is what he does on the field. But I'm certainly willing to hear arguments as to why you think that Adam Gase and Patton Oswalt will help Sam become an elite NFL quarterback because as yet no one has made a remotely good one.
I don't think the coaching staff is good for Darnold. And while I'm sure an established veteran in the meeting room will help Sam, I'm not sure why you think Joe Flacco is Quarterback Yoda. He didn't seem to have a clue nor a care last year in Denver's system in spite of this comment on the rookie he was brought in to mentor:
"I got so many things to worry about," Flacco told reporters Monday, per Josh Alper of Pro Football Talk. "I'm trying to go out there and play good football. ... I'm not worried about developing guys or any of that. That is what it is. I hope he does develop. I don't look at that as my job. My job is to go win football games for this football team."
It's a good signing. No one is arguing that. More important than a competent center? I'm certain Sam Darnold AND Joe Flacco would disagree.
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We’re not relying on Flacco to be a starter like we did with Enunwa. Plus, his contract is a drop in the bucket.
If we have to rely on Flacco to start for the majority of the season, we have bigger problems.
Just having him in QB meetings alone is the most important.
Unlike McCown, Flacco's actually won a championship and he's been a franchise QB.
Even if they're held together by duct tape, it's important to surround Sam with quality veterans like Flacco and Gore.
That’s great except Sam has missed time in both of the last two seasons. Whoever is number 2 on the depth chart might actually have to play.
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As a side note: assuming Flacco has accepted he will be a mentor going forward with whatever career he has left, Flacco will also be really good for Morgan as well.
Morgan is a big tools-y kid with a big arm that lacks touch and accuracy coming into the NFL. Does that sound to anyone else a bit like a poor mans Flacco coming out of college?
While we certainly need Flacco to have a bigger impact on Sam’s development, it’s not outside the realm of possibility that Flacco’s presence helps Morgan as well, and gives him a shot to become a legitimate NFL backup.
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Good move, always liked Flacco.
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He’s gonna teach Sam how to be tall
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If we're in the thick of things and Darnold has to miss a game or two, I feel a lot better about our chances with Flacco than anyone we've had previously.
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This is a good signing. Glad to know we have a real QB2.
#ByeFales
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It's a good signing. No one is arguing that. More important than a competent center? I'm certain Sam Darnold AND Joe Flacco would disagree.
Not sure why you keep arguing against things I didn't say.
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Not sure why you keep arguing against things I didn't say.
Except...you did
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Except...you did
When I'm talking to you I'll be sure to let you know.
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Not sure why you keep arguing against things I didn't say.
You said "best", he said "most important". I'm gonna start a thread about cast iron cookware.
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When I'm talking to you I'll be sure to let you know.
You needed correcting because you were wrong. Say thank you and move along.
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Not sure why you keep arguing against things I didn't say.
My parents have done more for the greater good in one day then you've done in your miserable, insignificant piece of excrement lowlife existence.
Come to the tailgate this year.
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This is the stupidest argument I've seen on this forum in at least 2 days
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My parents have done more for the greater good in one day then you've done in your miserable, insignificant piece of excrement lowlife existence.
Come to the tailgate this year.
Lmao
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I'll kill all of you. Fight me. I heart bewbs.
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Reuben should really come to a tailgate.
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Not reading any of the debate in this thread, Flacco + Morgan >>>>> Siemian and Falk
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My parents have done more for the greater good in one day then you've done in your miserable, insignificant piece of excrement lowlife existence.
Come to the tailgate this year.
Holy excrement, please come to the tailgate
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My parents have done more for the greater good in one day then you've done in your miserable, insignificant piece of excrement lowlife existence.
Come to the tailgate this year.
How do you feel about cheese dust bitch?
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How do you feel about cheese dust bitch?
As long as it's through a straw
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Jeremy Fowler: As far as Joe Flacco’s timeline on his neck injury, I’m told he can throw now and expects to be ready for contact in mid-September. So, he should be ready to suit up for Jets early in the season.
Rotoworld did its best to put a negative spin on this one.
Mid-September is likely when the season will start, probably later.
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Rotoworld did its best to put a negative spin on this one.
Mid-September is likely when the season will start, probably later.
We won’t have to watch Flacco throw in the preseason? So more quality reps for Morgan? I fail to see how that’s anything but a positive. Assuming of course there is any sense of a preseason at all
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The league has had the goal (from what I’ve heard) to make Super Bowl on Presidents’ Day weekend. This year I think that will happen and it will become the norm going forward
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The league has had the goal (from what I’ve heard) to make Super Bowl on Presidents’ Day weekend. This year I think that will happen and it will become the norm going forward
Finally jesus
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I've been hoping for that for a while
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Cimini (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29225502/jets-joe-flacco-says-ready-opener-neck-surgery): Flacco will not be ready for week 1.
This is why I'm not that excited about this signing. We'll still have to carry David Fales for a couple of weeks. Hopefully Morgan proves to be s better player and Fales just gets designated as the emergency QB.
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We might just opt to carry Morgan as a backup and cut Fales so the team's not keeping 4 QBs. If Flacco's out for long enough he can just be IR'd designated to return anyway.
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Cimini (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29225502/jets-joe-flacco-says-ready-opener-neck-surgery): Flacco will not be ready for week 1.
This is why I'm not that excited about this signing. We'll still have to carry David Fales for a couple of weeks. Hopefully Morgan proves to be s better player and Fales just gets designated as the emergency QB.
I mean, he's an injured backup quarterback. Anyone who is excited needs some more excitement in their life. I'm happy they made the move because I'm happy to have a veteran presence in the room. If things go well, Flacco doesn't play at all this year.
Fales and Morgan compete for the backup spot. If Morgan looks good, we cut Fales. If Morgan isn't ready, we can go with 4 QBs, or we can stash Flacco on PUP.
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I mean, he's an injured backup quarterback. Anyone who is excited needs some more excitement in their life.
Anyone who isn't excited either didn't watch Siemian and that other queynte I've horrorblanked out of my mind for three games that felt like three seasons.
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Anyone who isn't excited either didn't watch Siemian and that other queynte I've horrorblanked out of my mind for three games that felt like three seasons.
Flacco isn't good either. I actually thought Siemian would be a decent backup last year. Talent-wise at this point in their careers, a 27-year old Siemian and a 35-year old Flacco coming off neck surgery are about the same to me. But Siemian simply got destroyed behind our OL, and he was shook and then injured immediately.
I just didn't like Darnold and Fales being the veterans in the QB room with Morgan. Now we have a vet.
Also, if Flacco needs to be ready for Week 1, we have bigger issues.
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Were barely good enough to get a wildcard with Darnold not sure why you guys care so much who the backup may be for a week or two
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/05/26/joe-flacco-wants-to-play-but-knows-role-is-to-help-sam-darnold/
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/05/26/joe-flacco-wants-to-play-but-knows-role-is-to-help-sam-darnold/
good
i'm sure Joe D had a talk with his guy about the sort of role he expects him to play on the team with regards to sam, prior to signing him
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Anyone who isn't excited either didn't watch Siemian and that other queynte I've horrorblanked out of my mind for three games that felt like three seasons.
As much as Simien looked like a deer in the headlights, it was probably for good reason considering out of the 6 passes he attempted Myles Garret was up his derriere for five and a half of them.
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Cimini (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29225502/jets-joe-flacco-says-ready-opener-neck-surgery): Flacco will not be ready for week 1.
This is why I'm not that excited about this signing. We'll still have to carry David Fales for a couple of weeks. Hopefully Morgan proves to be s better player and Fales just gets designated as the emergency QB.
A better plan is Darnold lasting longer than Week 1 this year. Just a thought.
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A better plan is Darnold lasting longer than Week 1 this year. Just a thought.
He will likely have Coronavirus at the end of August just to freak his third season up
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He will likely have Coronavirus at the end of August just to freak his third season up
We know most of this board will be hiding at home so we'll have a two man tailgate this year.
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A better plan is Darnold lasting longer than Week 1 this year. Just a thought.
At the very least you're consistent.
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Just some devil's advocate spitballing.
Flacco uttering the "here to help Sam" company line is to be expected right out of the box and especially since he has a history with Joe Douglas. At the same time he still wants to play (believes he's got something left in the tank) and with $3M in incentives, exactly how will his "clipboard-holding / help Sam" hold up over an entire season? Further, he's an immobile big-arm QB whose skill set doesn't exactly align with Darnold's. Lastly, while he's dinged up, he saw Peyton Manning come back from a wrenched neck, and, he's the same crank who made a point of saying his job was not to serve as Drew Lock's mentor. just sayin'..
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Just some devil's advocate spitballing.
Flacco uttering the "here to help Sam" company line is to be expected right out of the box and especially since he has a history with Joe Douglas. At the same time he still wants to play (believes he's got something left in the tank) and with $3M in incentives, exactly how will his "clipboard-holding / help Sam" hold up over an entire season? Further, he's an immobile big-arm QB whose skill set doesn't exactly align with Darnold's. Lastly, while he's dinged up, he saw Peyton Manning come back from a wrenched neck, and, he's the same crank who made a point of saying his job was not to serve as Drew Lock's mentor. just sayin'..
Not too worried about skillset.
Flacco has been in the league for a while and he won a title. If he can help Darnold's preparation and ball security, I'm all for it.
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Joe Flacco: ghost buster.
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Joe Flacco is the buffer between Sam Darnold and Dowell Loggains
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Just some devil's advocate spitballing.
Flacco uttering the "here to help Sam" company line is to be expected right out of the box and especially since he has a history with Joe Douglas. At the same time he still wants to play (believes he's got something left in the tank) and with $3M in incentives, exactly how will his "clipboard-holding / help Sam" hold up over an entire season? Further, he's an immobile big-arm QB whose skill set doesn't exactly align with Darnold's. Lastly, while he's dinged up, he saw Peyton Manning come back from a wrenched neck, and, he's the same crank who made a point of saying his job was not to serve as Drew Lock's mentor. just sayin'..
You make some points, but this situation is completely different than Denver.
In Denver, Flacco was brought in to be the guy in the short term, assuming Lock wasn't ready. And a guy with Flacco's history probably is confident he can hold off a 2nd-round pick.
Here, Flacco was brought in clearly to be a backup, and he's too injured to play right away anyway. I think Flacco views this as a one-year hiatus where he can rehab, rehabilitate some of his reputation, and get on the field if something bad happens to Darnold. If Flacco were healthy right now, it might have caused issues, but I think Flacco should have a better mindset now.
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I was going to post a longer response but Smalls beet me to it.
I don't think we need to worry about Flacco making a fuss in the locker room. He'll more likely be there to help guide Sam on reading defenses and pressures rather than teach Sam to play like him. I don't think that many teams have the exact same archetype QB sitting behind their starter.
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I was going to post a longer response but Smalls beet me to it.
I don't think we need to worry about Flacco making a fuss in the locker room. He'll more likely be there to help guide Sam on reading defenses and pressures rather than teach Sam to play like him. I don't think that many teams have the exact same archetype QB sitting behind their starter.
Also, I don't think that Sam needs help with making throws from broken plays, he's generally great when he's out in the flats and having to make funky throws from weird places (I know he sometimes makes bad decisions but honestly I think every QB probably has a worse completion and INT percentage once they're out there). If Flacco can teach him how to make better reads and better decisions pre-snap and particularly once he's off his first look that would be a huge help, Sam doesn't seem to have that lock on problem that many QBs (ahem Mark Sanchez) get, but he does sometimes make bad decisions once he's into his progressions. Of course, actually having more than two seconds to make the decision on occasion might help as well.
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Of course, actually having more than two seconds to make the decision on occasion might help as well.
nah
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In a perfect world, James Morgan impresses and is ready to be the No. 2 over Flacco.
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In a perfect world, James Morgan impresses and is ready to be the No. 2 over Flacco.
When was the last time the Jets lived in a perfect world?
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When was the last time the Jets lived in a perfect workd?
It has to be either the day we drafted Sam Darnold, or the day we hired Douglas.
But that seems like our best bets
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00:00 1998 NFL Divisional round.
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When was the last time the Jets lived in a perfect workd?
11:30pm on January 17th 2011.
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When was the last time the Jets lived in a perfect workd?
correct answer: Jan 12, 1969
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correct answer: Jan 12, 1969
Are you Champ?
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11:30pm on January 17th 2011.
In all of our lifetimes, this is probably the answer.
It has to be either the day we drafted Sam Darnold, or the day we hired Douglas.
But that seems like our best bets
Too early for either of those 2 to be the answer.
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Are you Champ?
sometimes i wonder myself.
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sometimes i wonder myself.
Grouch
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11:30pm on January 17th 2011.
#KeepRex
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While this signing sounds exciting on paper, it also sounds like Flacco has a very good chance at starting the season on the PUP and has been an poopchute in the past when asked on his thoughts about mentoring a young QB. Albeit that was when he had a chance at actually starting
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While this signing sounds exciting on paper, it also sounds like Flacco has a very good chance at starting the season on the PUP and has been an poopchute in the past when asked on his thoughts about mentoring a young QB. Albeit that was when he had a chance at actually starting
He was an poopchute before because he went into those seasons as the starter. He knows his role this year.
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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1292135871047761922?s=20
@RapSheet: #Jets backup QB Joe Flacco spent yesterday in Philadelphia seeing a specialist to check in on his progress from neck surgery. Source says there were no issues, and he’s on track to miss just one or two games. He has his final checkup early in September, but so far so good.
Good news
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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1292135871047761922?s=20
Good news
Always good to have a cheap veteran backup ready to go just in case
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Joe is Flacctive tonight. Looks like the timeline was accurate.
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Guess I was wrong about that prediction.
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Flacco said he had butterflies today at practice.
I'M SO HAPPY WITH THIS
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It would be so Jets for Flacco to come in, fall into a couple of wins, and Gase says to the FO "Look, the problem is Darnold."
We'd simultaneously move on from Darnold while being out of the Lawrence running. And still have Gase
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It would be so Jets for Flacco to come in, fall into a couple of wins, and Gase says to the FO "Look, the problem is Darnold."
We'd simultaneously move on from Darnold while being out of the Lawrence running. And still have Gase
Don’t you even speak this horse excrement into existence
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It would be so Jets for Flacco to come in, fall into a couple of wins, and Gase says to the FO "Look, the problem is Darnold."
We'd simultaneously move on from Darnold while being out of the Lawrence running. And still have Gase
Don’t you even speak this horse excrement into existence
The Jets will get the number 1 pick, draft Trevor Lawrence, only for it to be later revealed that he contracted COVID during the draft season and developed severe vascular and pulmonary issues as a result.
Better?
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The Jets will get the number 1 pick, draft Trevor Lawrence, only for it to be later revealed that he contracted COVID during the draft season and developed severe vascular and pulmonary issues as a result.
Better?
Actually yeah it is. Because at least Gase is freaking gone
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It would be so Jets for Flacco to come in, fall into a couple of wins, and Gase says to the FO "Look, the problem is Darnold."
We'd simultaneously move on from Darnold while being out of the Lawrence running. And still have Gase
Flacco is gonna get killed behind this oline.
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Actually yeah it is. Because at least Gase is freaking gone
I didn't say that.
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I didn't say that.
you didnt, but Alio did
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https://twitter.com/miamidolphins/status/1317959675938209793?s=21
Flaclol
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https://twitter.com/miamidolphins/status/1317959675938209793?s=21
Flaclol
Jim Marshall would approve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1UZy7SSdDI