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New York Jets Football => ...And The Home Of The Jets => Topic started by: SixFeetDeep on May 12, 2020, 10:41:00 AM
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Per Manish
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-logan-ryan-20200512-wegwjtinnbfyxh245nvmbjjbzm-story.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true
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I’d rather have Warford. But we were talking about this move pre-draft.
Ryan will certainly help on the backend. But if this was our plan, I no longer see the point of the Quincy Wilson trade. But what do I know.
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That curry eating lover of the older lady better be right.
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I’d rather have Warford. But we were talking about this move pre-draft.
Ryan will certainly help on the backend. But if this was our plan, I no longer see the point of the Quincy Wilson trade. But what do I know.
We didn't have Ryan at the time, and still don't. And Wilson is likely better than any player we would have drafted at the end of the 6th (apparently the Colts took a corner/return specialist from UMass called Isaiah Rodgers, so watch him become an All Pro now).
I'm more concerned about the narrative that the team is placing spending limits on Douglas. I understand cap management, but the way Manish writes it sounds more like cash limitations. How the freak do you cry poor when you own one of the most valuable franchises in the NFL?
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We didn't have Ryan at the time, and still don't. And Wilson is likely better than any player we would have drafted at the end of the 6th (apparently the Colts took a corner/return specialist from UMass called Isaiah Rodgers, so watch him become an All Pro now).
I'm more concerned about the narrative that the team is placing spending limits on Douglas. I understand cap management, but the way Manish writes it sounds more like cash limitations. How the freak do you cry poor when you own one of the most valuable franchises in the NFL?
I have serious doubts about claims by Manish. I didn’t even read his article because freak that guy
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Do it Tanny
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Do it
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A proven winner that has always been highly productive
Really surprised that Tennessee let him walk but they do have some cap issues
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A proven winner that has always been highly productive
Really surprised that Tennessee let him walk but they do have some cap issues
He’s been a sack machine for the last 2 seasons...compared to other CBs
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He’s been a sack machine for the last 2 seasons...compared to other CBs
Ryan is a fantastic run defender. Hopefully he actually signs.
Our defense (especially the secondary) will at the very least be very fun in 2020. We have a lot of different pieces for Gregg Williams to move around.
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This is another Eric Mangini-esque move from Joe Douglas
Ashtyn Davis being the next Eric Smith reverses the curse
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Do it up.
#EverybodyLovesGreggggg
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Garofalo says that Manish has jumped the gun and that the Jets have yet to submit a formal offer to Ryan, and that Miami are also in the mix.
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Garofalo says that Manish has jumped the gun and that the Jets have yet to submit a formal offer to Ryan, and that Miami are also in the mix.
That would actually be hilarious
Manish would immediately blame Adam Gase for his misfire
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CB Logan Ryan, appearing just now on @gmfb, wouldn’t tip his hand on where he might sign. Asked about the #Jets, he said they “make sense” because of location. (Grew up in NJ, attended Rutgers.) But added he’s still “open for business.”
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CB Logan Ryan, appearing just now on @gmfb, wouldn’t tip his hand on where he might sign. Asked about the #Jets, he said they “make sense” because of location. (Grew up in NJ, attended Rutgers.) But added he’s still “open for business.”
So probably we've made an offer and he wants someone to beat it.
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We may be Winfielded in the end.
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That show is insanely boring.
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We may be Winfielded in the end.
1. Logan Ryan is not as good as Antoine Winfield
2. Manish Mehta is the ONLY source saying the Jets "believe" they could sign him
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We may be Winfielded in the end.
JD has shown us that he adheres to a set price for FAs.
I don't blame Logan Ryan for wanting to drive up his value....but i appreciate that JD sticks to his financial guns as well.
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Ryan would be an upgrade on what we have, but our secondary is already loads better than it was last year and if Hall can be the talent that we think he is then him, Desir and Poole is not a bad starting group.
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Ryan would be an upgrade on what we have, but our secondary is already loads better than it was last year and if Hall can be the talent that we think he is then him, Desir and Poole is not a bad starting group.
Logan just gives us more flexibility inside the numbers
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Ryan would be an upgrade on what we have, but our secondary is already loads better than it was last year and if Hall can be the talent that we think he is then him, Desir and Poole is not a bad starting group.
We need depth and we should not be confident about Poole or Hall playing at starter level quality.
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We need depth and we should not be confident about Poole or Hall playing at starter level quality.
We have depth, it's just not necessarily that good. I'm not opposed to signing Ryan at all and think it would be a big upgrade, I was just saying that I have more confidence in our corners this year than I did last year.
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Logan also gave up the most yards and TDs in the slot as well last year. I’m OK if JD chooses to stick to his price.
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We need depth and we should not be confident about Poole or Hall playing at starter level quality.
Poole was awesome inside last year
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He probably doesn't want to come here unless he has no other close offer from a team that's closer to the playoffs. Doug probably gave him an offer and he's just checking if anything else comes along. I'm completely guessing and I'm probably full of excrement.
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Poole was awesome inside last year
I hope that continues but he doesn't have enough of a track record for us to assume it will.
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Twitters: Is it possible that this DeAndre Baker mess has just turned #Giants into competition with #Jets for the services of CB @RealLoganRyan ?
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Sure it’s possible. But do they have any money left?
As much as I’d like Ryan, I would pay Warford first
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Sure it’s possible. But do they have any money left?
As much as I’d like Ryan, I would pay Warford first
We have plenty of cash left and we're freeing up even more on June 1.
If we wanted to sign Warford (or rather, if Warford wanted to sign with the Jets), we could just release Brian Winters and use that money.
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We are not very good at corner, but we have a lot of strong pieces. I think what people seem to be overlooking with a potential Logan Ryan signing is the fact that we're likely going to play a ton of zone again, and Ryan thrives in that kind of environment.
PFF wants to use completions against him, but if he's primarily playing zone in the nickel, he's going to give up completions...it's his job to limit the after catch production, which he does very well. Very few of his catches allowed went for first downs.
Bless Austin is also a very willing tackler in Cover 2. Bryce Hall is a better fit in a zone scheme. We drafted a single high, deep safety. Heavy zone play calling.
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We have plenty of cash left and we're freeing up even more on June 1.
If we wanted to sign Warford (or rather, if Warford wanted to sign with the Jets), we could just release Brian Winters and use that money.
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We are not very good at corner, but we have a lot of strong pieces. I think what people seem to be overlooking with a potential Logan Ryan signing is the fact that we're likely going to play a ton of zone again, and Ryan thrives in that kind of environment.
PFF wants to use completions against him, but if he's primarily playing zone in the nickel, he's going to give up completions...it's his job to limit the after catch production, which he does very well. Very few of his catches allowed went for first downs.
Bless Austin is also a very willing tackler in Cover 2. Bryce Hall is a better fit in a zone scheme. We drafted a single high, deep safety. Heavy zone play calling.
Ryan unquestionably makes us better. I actually think we have the money to sign Ryan and Warford, once we cut Winters. I was referring to the Giants financially being a competitor for Logan Ryan.
Our CB room has tons of potentially quality pieces, but nearly no proven commodities in it. We are a better team with Ryan than without, that goes without question. I just think if it was an 'either/or' situation, we are better with Warford than Ryan.
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Cut Desir for #capspace so we have enough money to sign Ryan
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Cut Desir for #capspace so we have enough money to sign Ryan
What if we cut the capspace itself? Does that free up cap space or use it?
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What if we cut the capspace itself? Does that free up cap space or use it?
What if Joe Douglas divided the cap space by zero
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What if Joe Douglas divided the cap space by zero
he may have to go steal some watches
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I'm only going to say this one time, but what if the cap space is on this ferris wheel?
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I wonder if this is gonna happen or not
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I think we'll see a bunch of signings throughout the league next week when all the June 1 cap money hits
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We're supposedly still interested in this guy. Makes a lot more sense now that Adams is gone.
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Do it Tanny
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Seeing as how JD doesn’t seem to budge on price, I don’t think our offer to Ryan’s camp has changed any. Ball seems to be in his court, he can either take our offer or wait for a camp injury
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Free agent DB Logan Ryan, one of the top players available, has hired powerful agent Joel Segal as his new representation and is poised to do a deal, sources say. Ryan’s previous agents waived the five-day waiting period, and Ryan’s move is official.
Ravens prolly.
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All kidding aside, he still makes a lot of sense with the Jets as a multifunctional chess piece in the secondary. Gegggg doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that likes to set up shop in one scheme and run it all day. Logan Ryan could be a safety or CB.
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If we weren't willing to bring him in at "his price" before, I doubt he fired his agents to allow him to sign a deal that we offered however long ago
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If we weren't willing to bring him in at "his price" before, I doubt he fired his agents to allow him to sign a deal that we offered however long ago
Probably. From his end, at some point it will be hard for you to come in and play so close to season unless the scheme is very similar to what you know. Be funny if he went back to NE.
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He's a Giant now. freak him.
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Thanks Manish
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This is why the default to Manish's reports is assuming they are bullshit.
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I really think that information was put out there to find the leak in the front office
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I really think that information was put out there to find the leak in the front office
Would that make Joe Douglass Frank Costello, Capt. Queenan, or Sgt. Dignam?
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I really think that information was put out there to find the leak in the front office
Certainly possible.
I don't remember us removing anyone after the story came out though.
Another opportunity would be the lombardi story that the Jets are the team in on Yannick...
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Certainly possible.
I don't remember us removing anyone after the story came out though.
Another opportunity would be the lombardi story that the Jets are the team in on Yannick...
That was supposedly coming from the Jags end though.
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Disappointing. He could have helped our secondary.
Wonder if we even made a legitimate run at him...or maybe the rumors of our excrement freak owners implementing a spending freeze is a thing
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Disappointing. He could have helped our secondary.
Wonder if we even made a legitimate run at him...or maybe the rumors of our excrement freak owners implementing a spending freeze is a thing
He would've helped but he also is better at nickel where we already have a really good player in Brian Poole
The Jets need to go get Prince Amukamara. We need help on the outside and I don't trust Austin or Desir to stay healthy.
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He would've helped but he also is better at nickel where we already have a really good player in Brian Poole
The Jets need to go get Prince Amukamara. We need help on the outside and I don't trust Austin or Desir to stay healthy.
You mean that dehydrated raisin Brian Poole?