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Title: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on April 27, 2020, 03:24:16 PM
Set to change numerous times surely

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Sports Business Daily reports the NFL considers Oct. 15 the drop-dead date for a 16-game season that could still be completed by February.
Oct. 15 would be Week 6 under normal circumstances. John Ourand and Ben Fischer report the league would strongly want any 16-game season to be completed by the end of February. In that scenario, regular season bye weeks would be eliminated as well as the traditional off week between the conference championship games and Super Bowl. For now, the league is still planning to release a normal schedule by May 7, but it will be constructed in such a way that allows easy reconfiguration. Ourand and Fischer's entire article is worth a click. 

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Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on April 27, 2020, 03:30:04 PM
So for a wild card team to go to the Super Bowl they would play 20 weeks straight? I imagine the NFLPA will have something to say about that.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 27, 2020, 03:33:27 PM
So for a wild card team to go to the Super Bowl they would play 20 weeks straight? I imagine the NFLPA will have something to say about that.
Yeah. I think you get rid of the week before the Super Bowl for sure, but I think you need regular-season bye weeks.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on April 27, 2020, 03:47:50 PM
Yeah. I think you get rid of the week before the Super Bowl for sure, but I think you need regular-season bye weeks.

Teams with early season byes would get insanely screwed

Imagine having a week 4 bye then playing 16 straight weeks into the SB, vs another team with a week 12 bye or something
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on April 27, 2020, 03:59:31 PM
Teams with early season byes would get insanely screwed

Imagine having a week 4 bye then playing 16 straight weeks into the SB, vs another team with a week 12 bye or something

The problem is the wildcard games. The top 2 in each conference would get an insane advantage by having wildcard weekend off if it's the only bye available to any team all season. I think they'd honestly be better playing a 14 or 15 game regular season than trying to do 16 games with no bye.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on April 27, 2020, 04:04:41 PM
The problem is the wildcard games. The top 2 in each conference would get an insane advantage by having wildcard weekend off if it's the only bye available to any team all season. I think they'd honestly be better playing a 14 or 15 game regular season than trying to do 16 games with no bye.

NFL gonna want that money

Especially with lost ticket and advertising revenue. Plus way jacked up quarantine viewership
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 27, 2020, 04:17:02 PM
This excrement is nonsense, play the season.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on April 27, 2020, 05:01:31 PM
This excrement is nonsense, play the season.

jesus christ
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: MBGreen on April 27, 2020, 05:38:11 PM
This excrement is nonsense, play the season.
Lol what
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on April 27, 2020, 06:21:00 PM
This excrement is nonsense, play the season.
RE-OPEN FUDDRUCKERS

GIVE ME OSTRICH BURGERS OR GIVE ME DEATH
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 27, 2020, 07:11:16 PM
Season starts in September, fellas. If everyone hides in their homes that long we'll be Venezuela by the time you come out and nobody plays football.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: MBGreen on April 27, 2020, 08:07:25 PM
Season starts in September, fellas. If everyone hides in their homes that long we'll be Venezuela by the time you come out and nobody plays football.
You’re going to be disappointed
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: IATA on April 27, 2020, 08:10:20 PM
Season starts in September, fellas. If everyone hides in their homes that long we'll be Venezuela by the time you come out and nobody plays football.

hurr durr venenzeuleakeale socialum communisit fdfaileures!! maga kaga2200!!
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 27, 2020, 08:50:43 PM
You guys make such coherent, factual cases.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on April 27, 2020, 08:56:13 PM
You guys make such coherent, factual cases.
To be fair neither did you. Invoking Venezuela in any conversation that's not about Venezuela is generally incoherent.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on April 27, 2020, 08:59:11 PM
On the other hand I'm simply demanding a well planned reopening of the shining jewel of NNJ.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 27, 2020, 09:12:49 PM
To be fair neither did you. Invoking Venezuela in any conversation that's not about Venezuela is generally incoherent.

What do you think is going to happen if nobody is allowed to work for 6 months? It's not realistic. We have a lot more data now than in early March, excrement was overblown. That's fine, understandable, but it can't go on this way certainly until the fall.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: MBGreen on April 27, 2020, 09:27:12 PM
What do you think is going to happen if nobody is allowed to work for 6 months? It's not realistic. We have a lot more data now than in early March, excrement was overblown. That's fine, understandable, but it can't go on this way certainly until the fall.
It can and will...if the situation continues to be status quo
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 27, 2020, 09:32:42 PM
What do you think is going to happen if nobody is allowed to work for 6 months? It's not realistic. We have a lot more data now than in early March, excrement was overblown. That's fine, understandable, but it can't go on this way certainly until the fall.

what data are you speaking about? what has been overblown?

the reason why the statistics are the way they are right now is precisely because of the measures many states decided to take in early-mid march
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 27, 2020, 10:01:34 PM
what data are you speaking about? what has been overblown?

the reason why the statistics are the way they are right now is precisely because of the measures many states decided to take in early-mid march

Number of deaths was way overestimated even factoring in mitigation. Now we're learning a lot more people are testing to have had the virus and have developed an antibody, which means the fatality rate is much lower then originally thought, we know which groups are more at risk and why.

Not telling everyone to go out and lick a subway pole but much of the country can get back to work and be careful. It's not like the first few weeks when we had no clue what we were dealing with. Except for a few places in NY the hospitals weren't overloaded, some are now closing down. The Navy ship, Javits Center, much of that was never used.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on April 27, 2020, 10:56:03 PM
Number of deaths was way overestimated even factoring in mitigation. Now we're learning a lot more people are testing to have had the virus and have developed an antibody, which means the fatality rate is much lower then originally thought, we know which groups are more at risk and why.

Not telling everyone to go out and lick a subway pole but much of the country can get back to work and be careful. It's not like the first few weeks when we had no clue what we were dealing with. Except for a few places in NY the hospitals weren't overloaded, some are now closing down. The Navy ship, Javits Center, much of that was never used.

If things are so simple. Why are no politicians anywhere in the world agreeing with you?

I will concede the majority of politicians are absolute freaking morons, but I'm sure even they could realize this

That said hospitals across the country are going bankrupt as freak
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Miamipuck on April 27, 2020, 11:00:55 PM
What do you think is going to happen if nobody is allowed to work for 6 months? It's not realistic. We have a lot more data now than in early March, excrement was overblown. That's fine, understandable, but it can't go on this way certainly until the fall.

There was almost 6000 new cases in NY 4/27, you can't open up NY right now that's nuts. Anyone wanting to is a freaking idiot. There has to be a negligible amount before you start opening things up, then you have to factor in the absolute worst thing to do is put 80,000 people in close proximity while the virus is running wild.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on April 27, 2020, 11:06:16 PM
Not to mention hospitals across the country still have (almost) every single surgery postponed indefinitely. My hospitals losing almost 100 million dollars a month.

The thought that you want to open things up (increasing hosptial volume) when hospitals aren't even willing to freaking (most) heart surgeries right now is monumentally freaking stupid
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Jumbo on April 28, 2020, 12:19:03 AM
If things are so simple. Why are no politicians anywhere in the world agreeing with you?

I will concede the majority of politicians are absolute freaking morons, but I'm sure even they could realize this

That said hospitals across the country are going bankrupt as freak

Politicians are inherently risk averse, no one wants to be seen as the idiot who opens up only to get blamed for infecting a bunch of people
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on April 28, 2020, 12:30:28 AM
Politicians are inherently risk averse, no one wants to be seen as the idiot who opens up only to get blamed for infecting a bunch of people

True but is it not a risk to be seen as the dude who locked Americans in their houses for a year and a half
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 28, 2020, 05:44:25 AM
You guys make such coherent, factual cases.

Seems like they're rising to the level of the conversation.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2020, 08:57:16 AM
What do you think is going to happen if nobody is allowed to work for 6 months? It's not realistic. We have a lot more data now than in early March, excrement was overblown. That's fine, understandable, but it can't go on this way certainly until the fall.
Most people's jobs are bullshit. The problem is assuming they can't or don't deserve to be housed/fed/clothed if they aren't working. I'm not even disagreeing that we'll have football this year, just poking a hole in the Venezuela comparison.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 28, 2020, 09:03:25 AM
If things are so simple. Why are no politicians anywhere in the world agreeing with you?

I will concede the majority of politicians are absolute freaking morons, but I'm sure even they could realize this

That said hospitals across the country are going bankrupt as freak

Some politicians want to open and some don't. Let's face it, a lot of them get off on having tons of power, if they and the media had their way they'd have everyone locked up watching them all the time. Their main interest is themselves and keeping their power, so nobody wants to do anything where they can later get blamed for anything bad happening. That said, depending on where they are, there are a lot of voices on both sides.

There was almost 6000 new cases in NY 4/27, you can't open up NY right now that's nuts. Anyone wanting to is a freaking idiot. There has to be a negligible amount before you start opening things up, then you have to factor in the absolute worst thing to do is put 80,000 people in close proximity while the virus is running wild.

New York isn't the rest of the country. Most of the problem is New York, that doesn't mean people out west and everywhere else should lose their businesses because stupid Cuomo ordered nursing homes to take positive patients in with a bunch of elderly people. The rest of the country isn't packed on subway trains. A one size fits all solution isn't going to work. 

Not to mention hospitals across the country still have (almost) every single surgery postponed indefinitely. My hospitals losing almost 100 million dollars a month.

The thought that you want to open things up (increasing hosptial volume) when hospitals aren't even willing to freaking (most) heart surgeries right now is monumentally freaking stupid

They're losing money because they anticipated a lot of COVID cases that never came in, and by canceling everything else some have gone out of business. All of what they are doing and we are doing was based on doomsday projections that never happened and fear of the unknown. Now that we know more and the numbers didn't pan out, time to adjust.

Again, my point here is we can and should be playing football games by September. Whether or not you cram 80,000 people into MetLife by then is another issue, but there is absolutely no reason why there shouldn't be an NFL season.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 28, 2020, 09:34:59 AM
Most people's jobs are bullshit. The problem is assuming they can't or don't deserve to be housed/fed/clothed if they aren't working. I'm not even disagreeing that we'll have football this year, just poking a hole in the Venezuela comparison.

Venezuela is the most recent example of a prosperous country turning to excrement once centralized government decided they were going to take over everything. An extreme example yes, you seem to be taking it literally, but if that's the way we go that's the direction this will head.

Look how hard a time our government has doing anything, ever. Not just now, go back as far as you want. In this case they wanted to "quickly get money in the hands of people", what happened? The money goes to Harvard, big corporations, pet projects, like everything else it gets wasted. Now people are scrambling to get some scraps which aren't going to cover their bills, and the politicians blame each other while looking to borrow, print and spend more.

I don't know how you get off saying most people's jobs are bullshit. Tell that to them and their families. You want everyone on a gigantic welfare roll? Some people do, and those are the ones trying to use this as an opportunity to push that crap on everyone else who doesn't want it. Again, early on in this I think everyone was on board with a temporary shutdown to avoid a mass outbreak. Except for a couple places there is no mass outbreak, so at this point it's overkill. Leaving everything shut down guarantees an economic and societal disaster worse than what were were originally trying to avoid.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Miamipuck on April 28, 2020, 10:53:49 AM
New York isn't the rest of the country. Most of the problem is New York, that doesn't mean people out west and everywhere else should lose their businesses because stupid Cuomo ordered nursing homes to take positive patients in with a bunch of elderly people. The rest of the country isn't packed on subway trains. A one size fits all solution isn't going to work. 

Oh ok so lets add, NJ, California, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Michigan off the top of my head, they all have unacceptable numbers at the moment and that represents how many teams? So yeah stupid Cuomo, one of the few leaders actually leading (I traditionally didn't like Cuomo) actually doing a good job, lets criticize him.


I have no idea what you're talking about with the nursing home thing, it honestly doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 28, 2020, 12:05:46 PM
Otherwise healthy 35-year-olds are having strokes as the initial symptom of coronavirus.

The first dog was diagnosed with coronavirus after it had previously been found to jump to cats.

I'll agree there are lots of people on "both sides" with opinions. There are all those experts on the "stay the freak home" side, and all the idiots on the "get back to normal, everything's fine" side.

I keep hearing this bullshit strawman argument that people want others to get sick just to "be right." Here's my thing. I don't want anyone to get sick, even someone I'd consider an enemy, because this disease is horrible. But if you demand everything go back to normal, you go ahead with everyone who agrees with you. The rest of us will hold one big memorial in the name of your sacrifice when it's safe to come outside again.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2020, 03:25:11 PM


Look how hard a time our government has doing anything, ever. Not just now, go back as far as you want. In this case they wanted to "quickly get money in the hands of people", what happened? The money goes to Harvard, big corporations, pet projects, like everything else it gets wasted. Now people are scrambling to get some scraps which aren't going to cover their bills, and the politicians blame each other while looking to borrow, print and spend more.

Now could you specifically name which people in the government support more robust direct payments to people and which ones ensured the rich didn't have to skip a meal? Because just chalking it up to some vague force of nature called "our government" doesn't cut it, and trying to pull a "both sides" argument completely contradicts reality right now.

There are proposals on the table right now to make $2000 monthly payments to every American until quarantine ends and the people opposing that have names and addresses. There's no logistical obstacle here, only political opposition.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2020, 03:37:20 PM


I don't know how you get off saying most people's jobs are bullshit. Tell that to them and their families. You want everyone on a gigantic welfare roll? Some people do, and those are the ones trying to use this as an opportunity to push that crap on everyone else who doesn't want it. Again, early on in this I think everyone was on board with a temporary shutdown to avoid a mass outbreak. Except for a couple places there is no mass outbreak, so at this point it's overkill. Leaving everything shut down guarantees an economic and societal disaster worse than what were were originally trying to avoid.

My statement about bullshit jobs doesn't begrudge anyone making a living, it's just a fact and a consequence of the way our economy is set up. Life goes on, our resources aren't going anywhere, and any economic suffering (actual suffering, not postponed Disneyworld trips) as a result of the duration of quarantine is completely avoidable if we use the tools at our disposal.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 28, 2020, 03:52:30 PM
Football teams have 53-man rosters plus practice squads plus massive coaching staffs and training staffs.

Football is a logistical nightmare to do during coronavirus, and it's less than 3 months until training camp.

Everyone who plays and is involved in a football game would need to be quarantined. Likely for months during the season. No visiting extended friends and family. None of that. Because if one football player gets it, there's a good chance that will spread like wildfire. Imagine 68-year old Bill Belichick getting coronavirus. Or 81-year old Tom Moore. Or if some player gets it, spreads it to his wife, who spreads it to her parents, and now more people are dying.

It's not that simple as saying, "We can and should be playing football games in September." Quite frankly, we probably shouldn't play football games in September. I hope they play because I love the NFL and I don't want to think of fall without it. But it's hard to think of a responsible way of doing that which doesn't completely upend players' and coaches' lives for several months.

We aren't Venezuela. Comparing the US to Venezuela is an irrelevant and useless argument.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Miamipuck on April 28, 2020, 04:05:11 PM
Imagine 68-year old Bill Belichick getting coronavirus.

I am, it almost sounds like a Disney fairy tale. Please tell us more..........
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2020, 04:07:40 PM
I am, it almost sounds like a Disney fairy tale. Please tell us more..........
When you wish upon a star,
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Miamipuck on April 28, 2020, 05:00:16 PM
When you wish upon a star,

I just signed up for Disneyplus.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 28, 2020, 05:09:20 PM
Oh ok so lets add, NJ, California, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Michigan off the top of my head, they all have unacceptable numbers at the moment and that represents how many teams? So yeah stupid Cuomo, one of the few leaders actually leading (I traditionally didn't like Cuomo) actually doing a good job, lets criticize him.


I have no idea what you're talking about with the nursing home thing, it honestly doesn't make sense.

Read up on it and it will make sense to you. He mandated nursing homes accept COVID patients, exposing them to the most vulnerable people. This was on March 25 when people already knew the elderly were at risk.

Not sure your point about the other states. Every state should go at their own pace, not one size fits all. Regarding football, that's 4 or 5 months off.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 28, 2020, 05:11:23 PM
Otherwise healthy 35-year-olds are having strokes as the initial symptom of coronavirus.

But if you demand everything go back to normal, you go ahead with everyone who agrees with you. The rest of us will hold one big memorial in the name of your sacrifice when it's safe to come outside again.

To be clear, I don't favor demanding people go to work or demanding they stay home. We have a Bill of Rights, people should be able to make their own choices and take their own risks.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 28, 2020, 05:14:00 PM

Now could you specifically name which people in the government support more robust direct payments to people and which ones ensured the rich didn't have to skip a meal? Because just chalking it up to some vague force of nature called "our government" doesn't cut it, and trying to pull a "both sides" argument completely contradicts reality right now.

There are proposals on the table right now to make $2000 monthly payments to every American until quarantine ends and the people opposing that have names and addresses. There's no logistical obstacle here, only political opposition.

Where is that money going to come from? We're over $22 trillion in debt now, mostly from entitlements. Then you have politicians--yes, sorry, on both sides--who love to stuff our money into their own interests and write these massive bills, leading to delays, corruption and waste. You seriously think we can pay people to do nothing and our economy will be fine?
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 28, 2020, 05:19:11 PM
Football teams have 53-man rosters plus practice squads plus massive coaching staffs and training staffs.

Football is a logistical nightmare to do during coronavirus, and it's less than 3 months until training camp.

Everyone who plays and is involved in a football game would need to be quarantined. Likely for months during the season. No visiting extended friends and family. None of that. Because if one football player gets it, there's a good chance that will spread like wildfire. Imagine 68-year old Bill Belichick getting coronavirus. Or 81-year old Tom Moore. Or if some player gets it, spreads it to his wife, who spreads it to her parents, and now more people are dying.

It's not that simple as saying, "We can and should be playing football games in September." Quite frankly, we probably shouldn't play football games in September. I hope they play because I love the NFL and I don't want to think of fall without it. But it's hard to think of a responsible way of doing that which doesn't completely upend players' and coaches' lives for several months.

We aren't Venezuela. Comparing the US to Venezuela is an irrelevant and useless argument.

Boy you guys are really defensive of Venezuela. I'll be sure not to criticize Cuba or the USSR while we're here. Pro football teams also have the best medical staff handy at all times and their players are among the lowest risk groups.

Again, there's a balance between taking unnecessary risks and just hiding at home for a year. The survival rate here is over 99%, the overall numbers are lower than past viruses and way lower than projected. It's amazing the group think here, people want to dig into the original thought of STAY HOME based on inaccurate data, and the mere suggestion that we should rethink it now that we know the data was flawed brings all kids of sarcasm and vitriol.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on April 28, 2020, 05:39:01 PM
Where is that money going to come from? We're over $22 trillion in debt now, mostly from entitlements. Then you have politicians--yes, sorry, on both sides--who love to stuff our money into their own interests and write these massive bills, leading to delays, corruption and waste. You seriously think we can pay people to do nothing and our economy will be fine?

Who do you think the government owes that money to, and when and how you think it gets repaid?
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 28, 2020, 06:01:38 PM
To be clear, I don't favor demanding people go to work or demanding they stay home. We have a Bill of Rights, people should be able to make their own choices and take their own risks.

Yeah, go ahead. Take your own risk. But try to contain your shock when the vast majority of people say "Yeah, that's okay, I'll see you when the experts tell me it's safe."

I would love to know what the people who want to reopen everything actually think would happen. The only thing that would happen is a lot of people would be fired for telling their bosses to freak right off.

But that would serve the "side" that wants to reopen everything because then everyone could be denied unemployment.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Pope on April 28, 2020, 06:42:11 PM
Boy you guys are really defensive of Venezuela. I'll be sure not to criticize Cuba or the USSR while we're here. Pro football teams also have the best medical staff handy at all times and their players are among the lowest risk groups.

Again, there's a balance between taking unnecessary risks and just hiding at home for a year. The survival rate here is over 99%, the overall numbers are lower than past viruses and way lower than projected. It's amazing the group think here, people want to dig into the original thought of STAY HOME based on inaccurate data, and the mere suggestion that we should rethink it now that we know the data was flawed brings all kids of sarcasm and vitriol.
It’s because it’s nice for them to sit on their lazy asses all day and watch Sesame Street with their kids in their pajamas and day drink and smoke weed and excrement post on social media and talk about how they should get Yang/Trump bux every week because they’re STAYing HOME

Once those luxuries start to come to an end because 80% of the population is on a welfare timeout they’ll come to their senses. Global food shortage, rampant inflation, economic destruction, and rioting isn’t far off. Until then let them find reasons to get upset about Trump so they can high five each other
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Miamipuck on April 28, 2020, 07:03:49 PM
. It's amazing the group think here

Group think? You realize that Badger and JE probably wanted to punch in the face over some of my views. See there's a thing called nuance. I can have an opinion without needing to ask the Montana State militia or some or some other random dumb motherfuckers. To close your eyes and open up stuff and hope the virus will disappear won't make it so.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 28, 2020, 09:28:26 PM
"...people should be able to make their own choices and take their own risks," isn't a convincing argument when your decision can kill me or someone I love. Grow the freak up, snowflake.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on April 29, 2020, 07:19:26 AM
"...people should be able to make their own choices and take their own risks," isn't a convincing argument when your decision can kill me or someone I love. Grow the freak up, snowflake.



People aren't even allowed to chose when and how the freaking die in this country. Hell we've spent the last 50 years having fierce debates about who can have sex with with who or when a fetus becomes a baby.

People in America can't make grownup decisions without a solid 100 years of debate first
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: IATA on April 29, 2020, 09:27:54 AM
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Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 29, 2020, 09:29:54 AM
It’s because it’s nice for them to sit on their lazy asses all day and watch Sesame Street with their kids in their pajamas and day drink and smoke weed and excrement post on social media and talk about how they should get Yang/Trump bux every week because they’re STAYing HOME

Once those luxuries start to come to an end because 80% of the population is on a welfare timeout they’ll come to their senses. Global food shortage, rampant inflation, economic destruction, and rioting isn’t far off. Until then let them find reasons to get upset about Trump so they can high five each other

At least I'm not alone here. I don't think reevaluating drastic measures based on real data that we now have, or questioning "leaders" and media who have been lying to us for years are radical ideas. You're right, once people go to the store and can't find basic excrement they need they might rethink what an "essential worker" means.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 29, 2020, 09:32:14 AM
"...people should be able to make their own choices and take their own risks," isn't a convincing argument when your decision can kill me or someone I love. Grow the freak up, snowflake.

Then you or someone you love can stay home if you feel at risk. Nobody is forcing anyone to go out, but forcing people who need to take care of their families to stay home is disastrous, especially in places where it's no longer necessary, assuming it ever was.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 29, 2020, 09:39:10 AM
Yeah, go ahead. Take your own risk. But try to contain your shock when the vast majority of people say "Yeah, that's okay, I'll see you when the experts tell me it's safe."

I would love to know what the people who want to reopen everything actually think would happen. The only thing that would happen is a lot of people would be fired for telling their bosses to freak right off.

But that would serve the "side" that wants to reopen everything because then everyone could be denied unemployment.

You're making a strawman argument here, who is saying reopen everything? The vast majority of the country is not at risk like New York City, and shouldn't have to base their decisions, freedoms and economy on New York City which is completely different in every way.

What do we think would actually happen? Based on what we've seen so far, it wouldn't be much different than staying in a lockdown, except for keeping people from going broke and losing their homes. Sweden had no lockdown and their death rate is lower than Michigan, roughly the same size and has a complete lockdown. My guess is we'll know even more as time goes by and more places take different approaches.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Pope on April 29, 2020, 09:39:49 AM
Here is real data: take a look at Sweden

From well known trash mag and failing Fake News source commonly known as The NY Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/world/europe/sweden-coronavirus-herd-immunity.html

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STOCKHOLM — She stood leaning on her cane, briefly resting among dozens of bubbly young Swedes out enjoying one of the first sunny spring days of the year.

“I’m trying not to get too close to people,” said Birgit Lilja, 82, explaining that she had left her house to pick up a new identity card in person. “But I trust them to be careful with me.”

Trust is high in Sweden — in government, institutions and fellow Swedes. When the government defied conventional wisdom and refused to order a wholesale lockdown to “flatten the curve” of the coronavirus epidemic, public health officials pointed to trust as a central justification.

Swedes, they said, could be trusted to stay home, follow social distancing protocols and wash their hands to slow the spread of the virus — without any mandatory orders. And, to a large extent, Sweden does seem to have been as successful in controlling the virus as most other nations.

Sweden’s death rate of 22 per 100,000 people is the same as that of Ireland, which has earned accolades for its handling of the pandemic, and far better than in Britain or France.

Yet, on this warm spring day, at least, there was little evidence that people were observing the protocols — adding further mystery to Sweden’s apparent success in handling the scourge without an economically devastating lockdown.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 29, 2020, 09:41:09 AM
To close your eyes and open up stuff and hope the virus will disappear won't make it so.

Best way to get rid of it is to develop herd immunity, which isn't going to happen with everyone hiding at home.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 29, 2020, 09:44:22 AM
Here is real data: take a look at Sweden

From well known trash mag and failing Fake News source commonly known as The NY Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/world/europe/sweden-coronavirus-herd-immunity.html


NY Times is pretty biased, always has been. They covered up the Holocaust for a long time, look it up.

You can have no lockdown and still take protective measures, nobody is saying to go on like there is no danger. I'm out delivering food to people all the time now, we take measures, mask, gloves, distance, that's fine. Helps people stay home that need to stay home and allows me to be able to feed my family while my wife is out of two jobs.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Pope on April 29, 2020, 09:54:00 AM
NY Times is pretty biased, always has been. They covered up the Holocaust for a long time, look it up.

You can have no lockdown and still take protective measures, nobody is saying to go on like there is no danger. I'm out delivering food to people all the time now, we take measures, mask, gloves, distance, that's fine. Helps people stay home that need to stay home and allows me to be able to feed my family while my wife is out of two jobs.
Listen I’m with you but even the suggestion of such things with these people makes you think that you’re suggesting full systems go 100% reopen with all old people and immunocompromised in a massive room getting sprayed by corona hoses
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: IATA on April 29, 2020, 09:58:10 AM
Best way to get rid of it is to develop herd immunity, which isn't going to happen with everyone hiding at home.

this is one of the more monumentally stupid things said here, nicely done sir.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 29, 2020, 10:30:18 AM
And we've hit anti-vaxxer arguments. Perfect.

Also, just to remind everyone, this thread is about starting the NFL season, and IS's deeply nuanced response was "Just open it."
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: MBGreen on April 29, 2020, 12:31:43 PM
Best way to get rid of it is to develop herd immunity, which isn't going to happen with everyone hiding at home.
No it isn’t and stfu until you get educated
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Pope on April 29, 2020, 12:45:57 PM
It’s a shame all these guys we drafted will never get to play because life is cancelled as we know it :(
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: IATA on April 29, 2020, 01:36:47 PM
I'll bet they all need haircuts, too.

Shame.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 29, 2020, 01:36:49 PM
It’s a shame all these guys we drafted will never get to play because life is cancelled as we know it :(

Zero busts this draft, Joe Douglas is a god
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 29, 2020, 02:15:53 PM
Zero busts this draft, Joe Douglas is a god

Thank you, Novel Corona Virus!
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 29, 2020, 03:58:30 PM
Also, just to remind everyone, this thread is about starting the NFL season, and IS's deeply nuanced response was "Just open it."

Yes it was, and there's no reason they can't play football games 4-1/2 months from now. There's a number of ways it can be done based on the circumstances as we get to that point. The NBA was already playing when the virus got here and a large number of those guys tested positive early on, then recovered. Pretty sure they all lived. Most of the money comes from TV anyway, even if you had to have no crowd or a sparse crowd.

No it isn’t and stfu until you get educated

MBGreen and educated in the same post. LOL

Perfect way to wrap this up. See you down the road, guys, stay safe. Maybe I'll deliver some of you guys food.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on April 30, 2020, 12:20:02 AM
Yes it was, and there's no reason they can't play football games 4-1/2 months from now. There's a number of ways it can be done based on the circumstances as we get to that point. The NBA was already playing when the virus got here and a large number of those guys tested positive early on, then recovered. Pretty sure they all lived. Most of the money comes from TV anyway, even if you had to have no crowd or a sparse crowd.

MBGreen and educated in the same post. LOL

Perfect way to wrap this up. See you down the road, guys, stay safe. Maybe I'll deliver some of you guys food.

I realize you're not the brightest tool in the shed so I'll explain.

Sure most nfl players will recover if they get it. I'm sure very few of them will die during the season, and the league will get monster ratings and mass viewership everytime a player does die.

The problem is multiple fold. First you're basically saying players have to agree not to see any of their friends/family at all for 5 to 8 months depending on how much camp/training they have.

Next is the issue is what happens when one player does get it and it spreads like wildfire through the league? What will happen every game when you have multiple players missing every week either positive with coronavirus or mandatory quarantine for suspected Corona?

I'll concede that football will be entertaining even with a mish mosh of players. But the product will be immensely fucked up when you have not only the regular football injuries (which I imagine will be increased due to the dcreeased camps/practices etc) but then having numerous players out every week with the virus or quarantine.

I am of the belief that there's a decent chance of their being football this year. But if it does happen it will be a season with a severely diminished product the likes of which none of us will ever see again, likely much more diminished than even XFL.

Ill also point out that there's probably close to a 100% chance that if this season happens there will be at least a few games canceled or forfeited because of outbreaks within a single teams locker room
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: insanity on April 30, 2020, 07:41:07 AM
I realize you're not the brightest tool in the shed so I'll explain.

Sure most nfl players will recover if they get it. I'm sure very few of them will die during the season, and the league will get monster ratings and mass viewership everytime a player does die.

The problem is multiple fold. First you're basically saying players have to agree not to see any of their friends/family at all for 5 to 8 months depending on how much camp/training they have.

Next is the issue is what happens when one player does get it and it spreads like wildfire through the league? What will happen every game when you have multiple players missing every week either positive with coronavirus or mandatory quarantine for suspected Corona?

I'll concede that football will be entertaining even with a mish mosh of players. But the product will be immensely fucked up when you have not only the regular football injuries (which I imagine will be increased due to the dcreeased camps/practices etc) but then having numerous players out every week with the virus or quarantine.

I am of the belief that there's a decent chance of their being football this year. But if it does happen it will be a season with a severely diminished product the likes of which none of us will ever see again, likely much more diminished than even XFL.

Ill also point out that there's probably close to a 100% chance that if this season happens there will be at least a few games canceled or forfeited because of outbreaks within a single teams locker room
I agree? Good job DCM

In order to hold practices over 100 people need to be in the same facility.

In order to hold a game and broadcast it, that number probably jumps up to 300.  300 new people every game.  That's how this thing becomes worse during the second wave than the first.

I really dont see this being feasible. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on April 30, 2020, 08:11:54 AM
Chris Johnson has acquired 53 ventilators just in case.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on April 30, 2020, 10:44:38 AM
It's looking more and more likely that the NBA scraps its season. If it does I imagine it makes it much more challenging and unlikely for the NFL to have a season.

Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on April 30, 2020, 10:46:44 AM
It's looking more and more likely that the NBA scraps its season. If it does I imagine it makes it much more challenging and unlikely for the NFL to have a season.

The NBA season was basically over when this all started.

The NFL is going to do everything they can to start the season in October with empty stadiums. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on April 30, 2020, 10:54:15 AM
All hail the reigning NBA champions.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on April 30, 2020, 03:42:44 PM
Never let a pandemic go to waste

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/04/30/nfl-weighing-saturday-games-if-college-football-doesnt-resume-in-fall/amp/
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 30, 2020, 06:53:05 PM
Number of deaths was way overestimated even factoring in mitigation. Now we're learning a lot more people are testing to have had the virus and have developed an antibody, which means the fatality rate is much lower then originally thought, we know which groups are more at risk and why.

again, please cite the data and the models that you're referring to. i hope you haven't been making these statements simply because it echoes things you've been hearing from politicians and other people/groups who are tired of the stay-at-home orders.

if you're talking about the IHME model being used by the white house that earlier this month predicted that the expected number of deaths by august had gone down from 100,000 to 60,000.....the US just passed 60,000 confirmed deaths from coronavirus today, and it is not august. deaths encompassing pneumonias with or without a confirmed coronavirus diagnosis are also severely elevated compared to what we should be expecting at this time of year, and it has to be assumed that this is because of coronavirus involvement that has not yet been confirmed by a test at time of death. the mortality rate based on the US numbers for coronavirus is also much higher than mortality rate for influenza. this is all data from the CDC, updated today.

if you're just looking for lower death numbers then great, i'm all for it, but again, the lower death numbers are because of the measures that have been taken. it doesn't change the obscene severity or fatality risk that coronavirus possesses. in other words, it doesn't make sense to be using the death counts to say 'it's actually not that bad, we should open everything back up again'.

They're losing money because they anticipated a lot of COVID cases that never came in, and by canceling everything else some have gone out of business. All of what they are doing and we are doing was based on doomsday projections that never happened and fear of the unknown. Now that we know more and the numbers didn't pan out, time to adjust.

this is also wrong. hospitals weren't expecting to make money off of coronavirus lmfao. hospital networks profit most off of outpatient visits and elective procedures. inpatient hospitalizations are quite costly and are often detrimental to the bottom line. most hospitals knew they'd be operating at a net loss when they shut down all elective procedures and nearly all outpatient visits in order to better be able to deal with the coronavirus pandemic, but that's what needed to be done. to say that hospitals are losing money because they weren't hitting the coronavirus numbers they were expecting to hit is shitty in more ways than one

i'd like to state that i'm not here to argue about whether the stay-at-home orders should be lifted or not. as i've said before economics is not my area of strength, and i have to admit that i do worry about the ramifications on people and the economy that this all has. i didn't read all of your posts, but from the ones that i saw, the reasons you gave to justify re-opening everything back up were factually wrong
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on May 02, 2020, 01:49:49 PM
Uhhh this sounds a little too optimistic

https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/05/02/extremely-small-chance-that-there-will-be-no-nfl-season-in-2020/amp/

The TLDR is its "extremely probable" there's a full nfl season with fans in the stadiums.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 02, 2020, 05:26:20 PM
The NBA season was basically over when this all started.

The NFL is going to do everything they can to start the season in October with empty stadiums. 

NBA is easier to play because there are so many fewer players. I think they could get back to playing faster than most sports, but it depends how much they want to push back next season.

The article DCM just posted is optimistic, but it's not crazy. Testing is the No. 1 thing that needs to happen. When players and coaches can get tests as often as necessary, teams and players could return to action.

But like DCM said in his long post above, all it takes is one player to get a false negative or someone somehow gets it between the test and coming in contact with others.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on May 06, 2020, 02:48:10 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/nfl-plans-to-refund-tickets-if-games-cant-be-played-with-fans.html
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on May 06, 2020, 02:57:31 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/nfl-plans-to-refund-tickets-if-games-cant-be-played-with-fans.html

How very decent of them, being willing to return money to paying customers if they find themselves unable to provide the service for which the fans have paid. What terrific chaps they are.

Although, that does raise one of the positives of this whole unfortunate business. The scalpers are fucked right now.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on May 06, 2020, 07:53:35 PM
How very decent of them, being willing to return money to paying customers if they find themselves unable to provide the service for which the fans have paid. What terrific chaps they are.

Although, that does raise one of the positives of this whole unfortunate business. The scalpers are fucked right now.
As a patriotic American I pledge to pay full price for every game, no matter what, directly to the Johnson family to keep the economy going.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on May 06, 2020, 09:27:12 PM
How very decent of them, being willing to return money to paying customers if they find themselves unable to provide the service for which the fans have paid. What terrific chaps they are.

Although, that does raise one of the positives of this whole unfortunate business. The scalpers are fucked right now.

I believe the point was them putting pressure on vendors and 3rd parties to not freak over fans.

Which is them doing a service to the fans (while ultimately being about their own self interest in wanting to sell their tickets)
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 07, 2020, 11:20:27 AM
https://twitter.com/buddabaker32/status/1258403944490921989?s=21
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on May 07, 2020, 11:21:29 AM
https://twitter.com/buddabaker32/status/1258403944490921989?s=21
He should probably just not think anymore.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Miamipuck on May 07, 2020, 11:23:08 AM
He should probably just not think anymore.
So he's kind of like you.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on May 07, 2020, 11:35:36 AM
So he's kind of like you.
No, I already don't.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on May 07, 2020, 12:40:08 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fansided.com/2020/05/07/nfl-schedule-leaks-2020-saints-vikings-christmas-day/amp/

Surprised the nfl hasn't done this long ago
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on June 01, 2020, 06:27:15 PM
So either all these Antifa faggots will be dead in three weeks or we'll have a normal football season with full stadiums.

Either way it's a win.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: IATA on June 01, 2020, 08:20:51 PM
middle aged italian man with earings calling someone a bundle of sticks.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 01, 2020, 09:09:10 PM
middle aged italian man with earings calling someone a bundle of sticks.

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on June 01, 2020, 09:47:31 PM
middle aged italian man with earings calling someone a bundle of sticks.

lol
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on June 01, 2020, 11:51:53 PM
middle aged italian man with earings calling someone a bundle of sticks.
You don't get to take the pee out of the appearance of someone you haven't even made the effort of going to a tailgate to meet.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on June 01, 2020, 11:52:04 PM
lol
Nor do you.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 02, 2020, 12:08:42 AM
He doesn't need to use the epitaph to express anger. But here we are.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on June 02, 2020, 06:41:07 AM
Leave IS alone, he lives in fear of the antifa boogeyman stealing his jewelry.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on June 02, 2020, 04:36:44 PM
Leave IS alone, he lives in fear of the antifa boogeyman stealing his jewelry.

So you go from the lame Fuddrukers line to this? Now you're going to pretend your city isn't getting trashed by trust fund faggots pretending they care about a black guy?

Then again, this same crowd still thinks the Revis trade was a good move so I guess it all adds up. Looks like we're having football, see you at the game.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: IATA on June 02, 2020, 04:51:54 PM
So you go from the lame Fuddrukers line to this? Now you're going to pretend your city isn't getting trashed by trust fund faggots pretending they care about a black guy?

Then again, this same crowd still thinks the Revis trade was a good move so I guess it all adds up. Looks like we're having football, see you at the game.

middle aged italian man with earings calling someone a bundle of sticks.



you could just like, not be a total piece of excrement? like honestly, you come in sharing worthless opinions no one wants or gives a excrement about, then you come in this thread and do the same, but with pointless slurs that add nothing to your argument.


i'm not even gonna pretend to give a freak about some worthless middle aged shitstain who cant leave "the glory days" of high school. just freak off.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 02, 2020, 04:54:20 PM
So you go from the lame Fuddrukers line to this? Now you're going to pretend your city isn't getting trashed by trust fund faggots pretending they care about a black guy?

Then again, this same crowd still thinks the Revis trade was a good move so I guess it all adds up. Looks like we're having football, see you at the game.

Who hurt you? Why are you like this?
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: MBGreen on June 02, 2020, 05:00:23 PM


you could just like, not be a total piece of excrement? like honestly, you come in sharing worthless opinions no one wants or gives a excrement about, then you come in this thread and do the same, but with pointless slurs that add nothing to your argument.


i'm not even gonna pretend to give a freak about some worthless middle aged shitstain who cant leave "the glory days" of high school. just freak off.
All the honks
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on June 03, 2020, 07:48:32 AM


So you go from the lame Fuddrukers line to this? Now you're going to pretend your city isn't getting trashed by trust fund faggots pretending they care about a black guy?

No Fuddruckers, no peace
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on July 26, 2020, 10:27:58 AM


you could just like, not be a total piece of excrement? like honestly, you come in sharing worthless opinions no one wants or gives a excrement about, then you come in this thread and do the same, but with pointless slurs that add nothing to your argument.


i'm not even gonna pretend to give a freak about some worthless middle aged shitstain who cant leave "the glory days" of high school. just freak off.

Yeah, go freak yourself, bundle of sticks. Opinions you don't like are "worthless" which is why your generation is a bunch of intolerant crybabies.

PS-we're having a season as I called it. And you're a SF Giants fan lol.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 26, 2020, 11:11:41 AM
Old white men are the biggest snowflakes.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: MBGreen on July 26, 2020, 11:19:10 AM
lolz
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: IATA on July 26, 2020, 11:26:16 AM
Yeah, go freak yourself, bundle of sticks. Opinions you don't like are "worthless" which is why your generation is a bunch of intolerant crybabies.

PS-we're having a season as I called it. And you're a SF Giants fan lol.


lmao it took you like 2 months to come up with this? i noticed in these 2 months that nobody bothered to defend you or ask about you.

excrement, i didnt even notice we were missing you.

huh, weird.

Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on July 26, 2020, 11:33:58 AM
Old white men are the biggest snowflakes.

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”


lmao it took you like 2 months to come up with this? i noticed in these 2 months that nobody bothered to defend you or ask about you.

excrement, i didnt even notice we were missing you.

huh, weird.



Took me two months to see it.

This place is a barren Marxist pooper eight months out of the year. See you when football happens.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: IATA on July 26, 2020, 11:41:52 AM
See you when football happens.

Preferably not, you freaking loser
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 26, 2020, 12:05:05 PM
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

Thanks for the non sequitur.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on July 26, 2020, 12:19:51 PM
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

Took me two months to see it.

This place is a barren Marxist pooper eight months out of the year. See you when football happens.
We have like 1.5 Marxists at most
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on July 26, 2020, 03:08:10 PM
Thanks for the non sequitur.

You're judging me based on the color of my skin. Considering I was born in the 60s, you're essentially pissing on this man's dream. Hope you're proud of yourself.

We have like 1.5 Marxists at most

Too many. :D

See you in September.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on July 26, 2020, 03:10:03 PM
You're judging me based on the color of my skin. Considering I was born in the 60s, you're essentially pissing on this man's dream. Hope you're proud of yourself.


Old white men are the biggest snowflakes.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on July 26, 2020, 03:15:08 PM


Keep setting the world back, guys, you're doing great. We took you from MLK to a black US president and you're bringing us back to segregation and race riots with your bullshit. So woke.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: MBGreen on July 26, 2020, 03:19:52 PM
Keep setting the world back, guys, you're doing great. We took you from MLK to a black US president and you're bringing us back to segregation and race riots with your bullshit. So woke.
Wat
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on July 26, 2020, 03:57:24 PM
Keep setting the world back, guys, you're doing great. We took you from MLK to a black US president and you're bringing us back to segregation and race riots with your bullshit. So woke.

Hahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 26, 2020, 05:02:10 PM
You're judging me based on the color of my skin. Considering I was born in the 60s, you're essentially pissing on this man's dream. Hope you're proud of yourself.

Thanks for proving my point.

Another thing old white men like to do: quote MLK to try and prove that white men are the victims.

Have a nice cry.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: d sw0rdz on July 26, 2020, 07:39:40 PM
Thanks for proving my point.

Another thing old white men like to do: quote MLK to try and prove that white men are the victims.

Have a nice cry.

you pointing out that he is a white guy using MLK quotes to try and explain why white guys are victimized will make him feel victimized further

slippery slope, there is nothing to gain here
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 26, 2020, 08:06:07 PM
you pointing out that he is a white guy using MLK quotes to try and explain why white guys are victimized will make him feel victimized further

slippery slope, there is nothing to gain here

Watching him go over the edge would be pretty entertaining. If he starts quoting Malcom X or Louis Farrakhan I’ll stop.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: d sw0rdz on July 26, 2020, 08:32:49 PM
We have like 1.5 Marxists at most

i'm not a .5 muthrfukr i'm a fvckin battleship
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on July 26, 2020, 11:01:36 PM
i'm not a .5 muthrfukr i'm a fvckin battleship
I raise the estimate to 2.25 marxists
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: IATA on July 27, 2020, 08:18:15 AM
this has been hilarious. everyday im thankful i wake up not being a joke of a man like this guy. yay
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on July 27, 2020, 08:20:35 AM
I raise the estimate to 2.25 marxists

I want to know the breakdown here.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on July 27, 2020, 09:21:37 AM
I want to know the breakdown here.
I'm 0.75, d swordz claims he is a whole 1, and then 0.5 cobbled together from assorted other members.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: ons on July 27, 2020, 10:04:34 AM
Trying to follow IS's line of thinking:

Believing the NFL season might be impacted by the coronavirus = being a Marxist = protesting against George Floyd's death
Believing the NFL season will go on as scheduled = being responsible for both MLK and Obama = being the victim of anti-white racism
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on July 27, 2020, 10:12:37 AM
WE GAVE YOU OBAMA!
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on July 27, 2020, 10:26:02 AM
WE GAVE YOU OBAMA!
But Obama was an Islamarxist. And that's doubleplus ungood.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: ons on July 27, 2020, 11:09:44 AM
Baseball season already in jeopardy after at least 14 positive cases on the Marlins. Personally, I don't see a path for having a full NFL season.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: MBGreen on July 27, 2020, 11:16:27 AM
Baseball season already in jeopardy after at least 14 positive cases on the Marlins. Personally, I don't see a path for having a full NFL season.


All we have to do....is get rid of the keepers.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on July 27, 2020, 11:16:40 AM
Baseball season already in jeopardy after at least 14 positive cases on the Marlins. Personally, I don't see a path for having a full NFL season.
Just stop testing duh

No tests, no cases
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 27, 2020, 11:20:43 AM
Keep setting the world back, guys, you're doing great. We took you from MLK to a black US president and you're bringing us back to segregation and race riots with your bullshit. So woke.

Can I buy some LSD from you?
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on July 27, 2020, 11:34:20 AM
Waiting for a cell phone video of an Italian Seafood public freakout to surface
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: IATA on July 27, 2020, 12:01:26 PM
Waiting for a cell phone video of an Italian Seafood public freakout to surface
https://youtu.be/PWfRu5YQahs
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on July 27, 2020, 12:03:43 PM
https://youtu.be/PWfRu5YQahs

LMAO
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: MBGreen on July 27, 2020, 01:20:25 PM
https://youtu.be/PWfRu5YQahs


ahahaha!

That's JE and Puck's love child.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Derek Smalls on July 28, 2020, 04:09:25 AM
So if the whole season gets canceled, what happens to the draft picks? Same spots as last year? Weighted lottery? Random lottery? Maybe we start 0-2, the Seahawks start 0-2, the season gets canceled, Gase gets fired and the Jets get the top 2 picks.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on July 28, 2020, 05:58:01 AM
https://twitter.com/kguregian/status/1287960128197713920?s=19
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on July 28, 2020, 06:53:09 AM
So if the whole season gets canceled, what happens to the draft picks? Same spots as last year? Weighted lottery? Random lottery? Maybe we start 0-2, the Seahawks start 0-2, the season gets canceled, Gase gets fired and the Jets get the top 2 picks.
Not sure why i never thought about this.  No idea.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: MBGreen on July 28, 2020, 07:00:58 AM
Not sure why i never thought about this.  No idea.

Because you 're thinking Arbys

(https://pics.me.me/im-thinking-arbys-17033547.png)
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: MBGreen on July 28, 2020, 07:08:03 AM
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
·
2m
And so Patriots RB Brandon Bolden also is planning to opt out of the 2020 season, which would make him the fifth New England player to miss this season.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: MBGreen on July 28, 2020, 07:09:35 AM
Mike Reiss
@MikeReiss
·
5m
As @FitzyGFY
 said on @TheGregHillShow
, Patriots RB Brandon Bolden is planning to opt out of the 2020 season.

Bolden becomes the fifth Patriots player to choose to opt out, joining LB Dont'a Hightower, OT Marcus Cannon, FB Danny Vitale and C/G Najee Toran.



The tank for Lawrence is on in NWE
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on July 28, 2020, 07:25:08 AM
So if the whole season gets canceled, what happens to the draft picks? Same spots as last year? Weighted lottery? Random lottery? Maybe we start 0-2, the Seahawks start 0-2, the season gets canceled, Gase gets fired and the Jets get the top 2 picks.

I'm a little rusty on my math

But id imagine statistically there's a very high chance at least 8 teams start 0-2

Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 02, 2020, 10:00:10 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-football/dmv-makes-perfect-place-nfl-bubble

The author clearly mentions that it's not likely to happen

But just the fact things like this are being discussed (having the nfl season in a bubble, spread out over Thursday to Monday) means it's highly likely that other that the nfl implements some radical changes in the next couple of weeks.

I think it would be stupid and bizarre as freak for the season to proceed as is
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on August 02, 2020, 10:03:10 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-football/dmv-makes-perfect-place-nfl-bubble

The author clearly mentions that it's not likely to happen

But just the fact things like this are being discussed (having the nfl season in a bubble, spread out over Thursday to Monday) means it's highly likely that other that the nfl implements some radical changes in the next couple of weeks.

I think it would be stupid and bizarre as freak for the season to proceed as is
Since I'm already not able to go to a Jets home game this year I don't really care where they play if they can set up a bubble for the league.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 02, 2020, 11:29:44 PM
Since I'm already not able to go to a Jets home game this year I don't really care where they play if they can set up a bubble for the league.

Well the more interesting part to me would be having football 5 days a week


That's enough to get me hard
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 03, 2020, 01:26:23 PM
Doug Pederson tests possitive for COVID-19.

Source (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/03/us/philadelphia-eagles-head-coach-doug-pederson-coronavirus-spt-trnd/index.html)
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on August 03, 2020, 07:39:42 PM
Saints have apparently booked a hotel in downtown New Orleans and are sequestering staff and players there for the next month in a team bubble, with no guests allowed into the hotel. Not sure how they're managing families and stuff but at least they're trying.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on August 03, 2020, 07:54:03 PM
Saints have apparently booked a hotel in downtown New Orleans and are sequestering staff and players there for the next month in a team bubble, with no guests allowed into the hotel. Not sure how they're managing families and stuff but at least they're trying.

So they picked a hotel that is less than a mile from Jackson Square and the French Quarter.  Sounds like a great idea...
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on August 08, 2020, 10:25:57 AM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/08/07/nfl-introduces-point-of-care-testing/
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: insanity on August 08, 2020, 11:31:05 AM
This site fansided produces some of the worst takes on the internet

https://phinphanatic.com/2020/08/08/miami-dolphins-sign-former-jet-quincy-enunwa/amp/
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Libero_2 on August 08, 2020, 05:58:57 PM
This site fansided produces some of the worst takes on the internet

https://phinphanatic.com/2020/08/08/miami-dolphins-sign-former-jet-quincy-enunwa/amp/
did they not see the Jets placed him on IR in May?
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: IATA on August 10, 2020, 11:24:42 AM
Ya but in the old madden you could cut an injured player and then resign him and he could play again, is this not the same concept?
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 10, 2020, 02:23:07 PM
Thanks for proving my point.

Another thing old white men like to do: quote MLK to try and prove that white men are the victims.

Have a nice cry.

The "old white men" narrative is getting dated. The older people now are less racist than these 20 somethings in the streets yelling about race. We came up on the heels of the civil rights era, after MLK. We quote his words because they made sense, people lived by them and we made a good 40 years of progress.

WE GAVE YOU OBAMA!

We did. Fact. Whether you liked him or not isn't the point.

you pointing out that he is a white guy using MLK quotes to try and explain why white guys are victimized will make him feel victimized further

It shouldn't? Substitute "white" with "black" and we're back to the 1940s.

Watching him go over the edge would be pretty entertaining. If he starts quoting Malcom X or Louis Farrakhan I’ll stop.

Not going over the edge of anything, trying to talk sense to nonsensical people.

I like most people here so I choose not to snipe back and forth endlessly. Nothing is gained and nobody is changing their mind.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 10, 2020, 02:47:58 PM
i will try to say this in as nice a way as possible; you need to change your mind. you as a white man are not experiencing racism nor are you being racially victimized when encountering a person or a group of people that disagree with your thoughts on the current state of race relations within the country.

moreover, the fact that you're invoking MLK quotes or may have been around during the civil rights era (how old were you then/are you now?) does not give you the right to act self-righteous/all-knowing in the arena of race relations.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: MBGreen on August 10, 2020, 02:54:50 PM
i will try to say this in as nice a way as possible; you need to change your mind. you as a white man are not experiencing racism nor are you being racially victimized when encountering a person or a group of people that disagree with your thoughts on the current state of race relations within the country.

moreover, the fact that you're invoking MLK quotes or may have been around during the civil rights era (how old were you then/are you now?) does not give you the right to act self-righteous/all-knowing in the arena of race relations.
That earring in his ear is worse than any level of racism.

How many times do you think people called him a pirate?  *shudder*
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 10, 2020, 03:09:24 PM
i will try to say this in as nice a way as possible; you need to change your mind. you as a white man are not experiencing racism nor are you being racially victimized when encountering a person or a group of people that disagree with your thoughts on the current state of race relations within the country.

moreover, the fact that you're invoking MLK quotes or may have been around during the civil rights era (how old were you then/are you now?) does not give you the right to act self-righteous/all-knowing in the arena of race relations.

You made a few reading errors, so I will help you.

1-I didn't say I was a victim of racism. I said he was dismissing me based on the color of my skin, exactly what my generation was taught NOT to do, exactly what MLK was speaking against.

2-I said my generation came up AFTER the civil rights era, I was born in 1967. It's 2020, people over 50 are now people who grew up in the era between MLK and Obama, we weren't the "old white men" blocking school houses or spraying fire hoses.

3-I am not acting "all knowing", just giving you guys a little perspective on history which you are clearly lacking.

If you guys want to keep going on pretending the whole civil rights movement never happened, that's on you. A black man who got the excrement kicked out of him in 1965 just had a massive state ceremony for his funeral. But we've made no progress, right? Whose generation do you think got us there? And who is trying to take us back? The more people make race an issue the more it is an issue. 

And I'm NOT changing my mind.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 10, 2020, 03:18:00 PM
You made a few reading errors, so I will help you.

1-I didn't say I was a victim of racism. I said he was dismissing me based on the color of my skin, exactly what my generation was taught NOT to do, exactly what MLK was speaking against.

2-I said my generation came up AFTER the civil rights era, I was born in 1967. It's 2020, people over 50 are now people who grew up in the era between MLK and Obama, we weren't the "old white men" blocking school houses or spraying fire hoses.

3-I am not acting "all knowing", just giving you guys a little perspective on history which you are clearly lacking.

If you guys want to keep going on pretending the whole civil rights movement never happened, that's on you. A black man who got the excrement kicked out of him in 1965 just had a massive state ceremony for his funeral. But we've made no progress, right? Whose generation do you think got us there? And who is trying to take us back? The more people make race an issue the more it is an issue. 

And I'm NOT changing my mind.

there is a lot more to unpack here even beyond race relations, but i don't know if i have the energy. i certainly don't have the time

you've convinced me, you've changed my mind. if we ignore that race-related issues exist, then race-related issues will go away. thank you
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on August 10, 2020, 03:47:37 PM
We did. Fact. Whether you liked him or not isn't the point.

Even if that is the case, any positive impact it might have had on race relations was undone and then some by what you did next.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 10, 2020, 07:50:36 PM
OK. It's getting sad now.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 10, 2020, 08:15:52 PM
How did nfl coronavirus thread turn into thoughts on racism
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2020, 09:23:52 AM
How did nfl coronavirus thread turn into thoughts on racism
Marxists
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 11, 2020, 10:31:52 AM
How did nfl coronavirus thread turn into thoughts on racism

don't open up this can of worms. posters are begging not to 'make' things race-related yet will be the same ones to make something/anything political, dem vs repub, left vs right etc
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 11, 2020, 10:50:13 AM
How did nfl coronavirus thread turn into thoughts on racism

Someone decided they needed to add a white savior complex to their argument.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 11, 2020, 11:01:11 AM
don't open up this can of worms. posters are begging not to 'make' things race-related yet will be the same ones to make something/anything political, dem vs repub, left vs right etc

Who cares what color or political party someone is, all that matters is that their shoes cost at least 300$
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on August 11, 2020, 11:20:03 AM
Who cares what color or political party someone is, all that matters is that their shoes cost at least 300$

You can tell the mark of a man by his footwear.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2020, 11:34:20 AM
You can tell the mark of a man by his footwear.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200811/e0edb6e4da7c4649d4362b81a06044e9.jpg)
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on August 11, 2020, 11:38:10 AM
hahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 11, 2020, 11:54:01 AM
You can tell the mark of a man by his footwear.

you're making this too easy so i'm not gonna say it, and i suspect it'd be getting old/annoying/played out at this point.

to each his own. i respect your other fashion choices otherwise
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 11, 2020, 11:54:50 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200811/e0edb6e4da7c4649d4362b81a06044e9.jpg)

i can't stop looking at this photo and giggling

the fck are those
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2020, 12:01:28 PM
i can't stop looking at this photo and giggling

the fck are those
The finest footwear Manitoban currency can buy
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on August 11, 2020, 12:08:30 PM
you're making this too easy so i'm not gonna say it, and i suspect it'd be getting old/annoying/played out at this point.

to each his own. i respect your other fashion choices otherwise

lol that's fair.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 11, 2020, 01:17:25 PM
don't open up this can of worms. posters are begging not to 'make' things race-related yet will be the same ones to make something/anything political, dem vs repub, left vs right etc

We can either have a conversation or not, up to you. You've always seemed like a reasonable and smart guy, this isn't really what I come here for but either way.


Someone decided they needed to add a white savior complex to their argument.

Someone decided my opinion doesn't matter because I'm white. It's stupid.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2020, 01:30:43 PM
What if I vote for Biden and lend IS my new black card?
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 11, 2020, 02:21:26 PM
Back to the purpose of this thread. Assuming that somehow a full season is played, what do you think will be the biggest difference of the actual gameplay?

My gut feeling is the best teams will be those who have strong running games.

I'm not sure if it'll be teams with old school power running games or cutesy college option style run games. But I think that'll just be determined by who stocks their rosters right.

Baltimore might be the scariest team in the league though. Lamar Jackson could destroy last seasons numbers playing against defenses with backups all over the field.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 11, 2020, 02:25:17 PM
Back to the purpose of this thread. Assuming that somehow a full season is played, what do you think will be the biggest difference of the actual gameplay?

My gut feeling is the best teams will be those who have strong running games.

I'm not sure if it'll be teams with old school power running games or cutesy college option style run games. But I think that'll just be determined by who stocks their rosters right.

Baltimore might be the scariest team in the league though. Lamar Jackson could destroy last seasons numbers playing against defenses with backups all over the field.

Judging by European soccer and MLB, the games will probably be pretty normal with empty seats or cutouts and decorations in the stands. For the Jets the empty stadium will look normal by mid to late November.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2020, 02:27:43 PM
Judging by European soccer and MLB, the games will probably be pretty normal with empty seats or cutouts and decorations in the stands. For the Jets the empty stadium will look normal by mid to late November.
I think dcm's point is the number of skill position players opting out could influence the way the game is played temporarily. I don't think MLB has an analogous situation.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 11, 2020, 02:29:51 PM
I think dcm's point is the number of skill position players opting out could influence the way the game is played temporarily. I don't think MLB has an analogous situation.

Guys get hurt in football in normal years, so the next guy plays. We'll get one less half out of Mosely this year than we did last year.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 11, 2020, 03:04:14 PM
Guys get hurt in football in normal years, so the next guy plays. We'll get one less half out of Mosely this year than we did last year.

Uhm...

You do know Mosley isn't playing this year right?

And yes guys get injured every year.

Presumably injuries will be worse this year because of poor training/camps/conditioning etc

And in addition to that we should basically a revolving door at positions all over the field.

I think the game will be played in a way like none of us have seen before, and none of us will see again
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 11, 2020, 03:14:50 PM
Uhm...

You do know Mosley isn't playing this year right?


Yes, that was my point.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 11, 2020, 03:15:09 PM
Uhm...

You do know Mosley isn't playing this year right?

I believe that was the point he made when he said we'd get one less half out of Mosely than in 2019.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 11, 2020, 03:19:28 PM
I believe that was the point he made when he said we'd get one less half out of Mosely than in 2019.

Ah well Mosely had played in 2 different games last year so that kinda threw me off a little
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on August 11, 2020, 03:32:44 PM
I think dcm's point is the number of skill position players opting out could influence the way the game is played temporarily. I don't think MLB has an analogous situation.

I don't think that enough have opted out to make a material difference. I think the final list was about 70 players, over 10% of which were on the Patriots, and plenty of whom were if not scrubs then not exactly players whose presence dictates gameplan. I think Seafood's right, it's just next man up.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 11, 2020, 03:57:50 PM
I don't think that enough have opted out to make a material difference. I think the final list was about 70 players, over 10% of which were on the Patriots, and plenty of whom were if not scrubs then not exactly players whose presence dictates gameplan. I think Seafood's right, it's just next man up.

It's not about the optouts

It's about the logistics of football, the sizes of rosters, the lack of camps/practices, not operating within a bubble. Meaning that we're almost certainly going to see a chunk of guys out each week.

At the absolute minimum you'd have to think this entire offseason getting scrapped will have a significant impact on offensive chemistry.

Do we not see it every year where defenses are typically ahead of offenses early in the preseason?

Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 11, 2020, 05:21:35 PM
I think teams with a lot of continuity will be in better shape.

I was really optimistic our defense could take a big step forward because it was most of the same guys. Then Adams and Mosley peaced out. It's still most of the same guys, but the top-end talent isn't there anymore unless some of the young DL take big steps forward.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on August 11, 2020, 05:27:34 PM
I think teams with a lot of continuity will be in better shape.

I was really optimistic our defense could take a big step forward because it was most of the same guys. Then Adams and Mosley peaced out. It's still most of the same guys, but the top-end talent isn't there anymore unless some of the young DL take big steps forward.

If Quinnen Williams takes the next step, our defense should too.  Jabari Zuniga is an X-Factor too.

I'm mostly concerned about the corners.

McDougald/Maye/Davis should be fine at safety. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2020, 05:41:07 PM


If ________ takes the next step,

Our rallying cry since the Sanchez years.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Libero_2 on August 11, 2020, 06:46:35 PM
If Quinnen Williams takes the next step, our defense should too.  Jabari Zuniga is an X-Factor too.

I'm mostly concerned about the corners.

McDougald/Maye/Davis should be fine at safety. 

Is there reason to be excited about Zuniga this year? I remember reading his upside is prime Calvin Pace. Now that’s a damn good player who we could definitely use, but he won’t be that guy year 1 for sure. I just envision a guy that’s gets 3-4 sacks 5 or so TFLs and a few QB pressures. Now granted that might be astounding production for the Jets, but it doesn’t exactly scream future pass rush demon
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on August 11, 2020, 07:11:49 PM
Is there reason to be excited about Zuniga this year? I remember reading his upside is prime Calvin Pace. Now that’s a damn good player who we could definitely use, but he won’t be that guy year 1 for sure. I just envision a guy that’s gets 3-4 sacks 5 or so TFLs and a few QB pressures. Now granted that might be astounding production for the Jets, but it doesn’t exactly scream future pass rush demon

Zuniga is a chess piece in the front seven.  He can play every DL spot in any front (even NT in some looks) and he can stand up as a true 3-4 OLB.

I expect Gregg to use him as an interior pass rusher early on. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 11, 2020, 07:42:52 PM
Zuniga is a chess piece in the front seven.  He can play every DL spot in any front (even NT in some looks) and he can stand up as a true 3-4 OLB.

I expect Gregg to use him as an interior pass rusher early on. 

Surely the lack of offseason is going to make it far more difficult to do this though
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 12, 2020, 12:55:36 AM
If Quinnen Williams takes the next step, our defense should too.  Jabari Zuniga is an X-Factor too.

I'm mostly concerned about the corners.

McDougald/Maye/Davis should be fine at safety. 
Definitely didn't expect you to bring up Zuniga as the X-factor. To me, Ashtyn Davis is an X-factor as someone who can play corner and safety in nickel/dime packages and provide some speed on the back end.

I think we have a number of defensive linemen who flashed last year. Shepherd and Foley both took huge leaps in year 2. Maybe they can take another leap this year. Quinnen didn't flash a ton, but he was banged up and he did help our run defense. Year 2 needs to be a big leap for him. Even Kyle Phillips was productive as a rookie.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on August 12, 2020, 07:39:22 AM
I'm a huge fan of Kyle Phillips.  He does a lot of dirty work and does it well.  He's not afraid to take on double teams and pulling linemen. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on August 12, 2020, 07:40:17 AM
Definitely didn't expect you to bring up Zuniga as the X-factor.

A healthy Jabari Zuniga is dangerous against interior offensive linemen.  He's deceptively powerful and quick off the snap.   

I really wanted Marlon Davidson on this team, but Zuniga can do a lot of the same things. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 13, 2020, 05:51:02 AM
So as far as next season

Outside of piracy has anyone seen any promising ways to watch the season? With all the uncertainty idk how the freak gamepass Sunday ticket or anything will work to watch, and I'd rather not shell out a ton for something I might not get
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: MBGreen on August 13, 2020, 07:07:55 AM
So as far as next season

Outside of piracy has anyone seen any promising ways to watch the season? With all the uncertainty idk how the freak gamepass Sunday ticket or anything will work to watch, and I'd rather not shell out a ton for something I might not get

I'm going with Sunday Ticket. I'm assuming they'll offer refunds if the season goes south.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 13, 2020, 07:11:41 AM
I'm going with Sunday Ticket. I'm assuming they'll offer refunds if the season goes south.

What are the odds all/most of the games are even on Sundays especially with college football being a excrement show?

Which then brings up the plethora or potential issues with Sunday ticket

I assume they might prorate refunds if the season goes south, but that might be a little generous
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: insanity on August 13, 2020, 07:36:29 AM
What are the odds all/most of the games are even on Sundays especially with college football being a excrement show?

Which then brings up the plethora or potential issues with Sunday ticket

I assume they might prorate refunds if the season goes south, but that might be a little generous
You're over thinking things
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on August 13, 2020, 07:42:52 AM


So as far as next season

Outside of piracy has anyone seen any promising ways to watch the season?

Move back to NY
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 13, 2020, 07:48:47 AM
You're over thinking things

I'm not used to being accused of thinking too much
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 13, 2020, 08:07:56 AM
https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1293629756202799106?s=21
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on August 13, 2020, 08:30:03 AM
https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1293629756202799106?s=21

The NHL and NBA have had 0 positive tests in several weeks. I don't know that bubbles are as easy in the NFL because of the size of an NFL roster and the number of surrounding staff, but bubbles definitely seem to be working. Team bubbles seem like a workable idea at least.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on August 13, 2020, 09:14:35 AM
What are the odds all/most of the games are even on Sundays especially with college football being a excrement show?

Pretty high still.

https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1293646237946777600

Also factor in the overseas market that they're trying to grow - for example they just announced a dedicated NFL channel on Sky Sports in the UK - and the fact that lots of those overseas broadcasters would have a significant problem with the NFL switching games to slots that conflict with other high profile broadcasts like soccer. It's hard to see it happening, because any gains they might make from the additional broadcast slots would be offset by the headaches it would cause.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 13, 2020, 09:21:38 AM
Pretty high still.

https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1293646237946777600

Also factor in the overseas market that they're trying to grow - for example they just announced a dedicated NFL channel on Sky Sports in the UK - and the fact that lots of those overseas broadcasters would have a significant problem with the NFL switching games to slots that conflict with other high profile broadcasts like soccer. It's hard to see it happening, because any gains they might make from the additional broadcast slots would be offset by the headaches it would cause.

Well I don't know anything about the EU channels for football, but are the games mostly watched live? I know when games here are played over there it's typically at like 630 am pst/930 ET.

And on Sundays when there's numerous games in the same time slot, are they all played on TV in Europe? Or just a single game?

The college football thing is interesting, but at this point even that being totally or almost totally canceled is a real possibility

But you make a good point and I guess right now it's pretty unlikely for anything drastic to happen at this time. But hopefully the league gets concerned and offers some kind of discounted/unique ways to watch as the quality and uncertainty of the product is definitely in question

Hell I'd be thrilled if they made nfl gamepass free for the season and made the games include commercials.

I think that's a somewhat satisfying compromise
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on August 13, 2020, 09:44:26 AM
Well I don't know anything about the EU channels for football, but are the games mostly watched live? I know when games here are played over there it's typically at like 630 am pst/930 ET.

And on Sundays when there's numerous games in the same time slot, are they all played on TV in Europe? Or just a single game?

A 1pm game here is 6pm in the UK and 7pm in Germany, the two biggest markets for the NFL in Europe. On a Saturday that would clash with primetime soccer in both countries. If the NFL took up full college slots then they could be kicking off games at noon on Saturday which would be 5pm / 6pm, which is worse.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 13, 2020, 12:18:47 PM
Which then brings up the plethora or potential issues with Sunday ticket

I assume they might prorate refunds if the season goes south, but that might be a little generous

I have MLB on DirecTV for the Dodger games, it automatically renews. This year they did not bill me while the season wasn't going on, they've prorated it to the amount of months they are showing games.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 13, 2020, 02:07:20 PM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/08/13/report-seahawks-cut-kemah-siverand-for-trying-to-sneak-woman-into-team-hotel/
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 13, 2020, 02:08:13 PM
I have MLB on DirecTV for the Dodger games, it automatically renews. This year they did not bill me while the season wasn't going on, they've prorated it to the amount of months they are showing games.

That makes the pill easier to swallow

Thoguh I'd still be concerned about games not being on Sundays, and being shed to catch live depending on work and how the next months play out
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 13, 2020, 03:49:57 PM
That makes the pill easier to swallow

Thoguh I'd still be concerned about games not being on Sundays, and being shed to catch live depending on work and how the next months play out

Moving games off of Sunday would make the package better. One of the reasons I dropped it was all the games are on at the same time, so you pay for them all and can't possibly watch them all. Being local to NY I'm watching the Jets for free, usually at 1:00, and most of the package goes to waste. Good thing about the other sports packages is that you get games day and night for months at all different times.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 19, 2020, 10:26:17 PM
The NFL will consult an advisory committee made up of former coaches, GMs and players on such issues as postponing, moving or even canceling games this season due to the pandemic.

https://apnews.com/ffad284606c80d52f76be14612234c70?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_NFL&utm_campaign=SocialFlow
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on September 13, 2020, 09:54:00 PM
Abolish the preseason

I didn't see a noticeable dropoff in play around the league and if there's been any increase in soft tissue injuries that can be attributed to limited training camp or other off-season activities
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: IATA on September 13, 2020, 10:01:35 PM
sure felt like there was a ton more missed field goals today
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 14, 2020, 02:40:14 PM
Abolish the preseason

I didn't see a noticeable dropoff in play around the league and if there's been any increase in soft tissue injuries that can be attributed to limited training camp or other off-season activities

I agree, I didn't miss the pre season at all. And I didn't see the word "vanilla" on here all of August.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 07, 2020, 08:29:27 AM
Quote
.@DanGrazianoESPN just said on ESPN's @GetUpESPN that Sunday's Week 5 game between the #Bills & #Titans  could go down as a forfeit for Tennessee instead of it being re-scheduled
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on October 07, 2020, 08:30:05 AM
lmao

what a disaster
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 07, 2020, 08:46:01 AM
if the nfl starts making teams forfeit due to the virus then we may have a shot at 1 or 2 wins depending on how the dice rolls
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on October 07, 2020, 08:55:07 AM
if the nfl starts making teams forfeit due to the virus then we may have a shot at 1 or 2 wins depending on how the dice rolls

We need to send some Coronawhores to Florham Park.  Then the players could quite literally freak their season.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 07, 2020, 09:15:49 AM
We need to send some Coronawhores to Florham Park.  Then the players could quite literally freak their season.

we could possibly set up a a team hoe-down at flushing meadows corona park after hours
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 07, 2020, 09:34:13 AM
we could possibly set up a a team hoe-down at flushing meadows corona park after hours

Well played.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on October 07, 2020, 01:52:13 PM
we could possibly set up a a team hoe-down at flushing meadows corona park after hours
Haha, it's funny for two reasons

The name and it's also between two spiking zip codes
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on November 28, 2020, 06:30:09 PM
So was it Thanksgiving that fucked the NFL this week?
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: reuben on November 28, 2020, 06:34:20 PM
So was it Thanksgiving that fucked the NFL this week?

I'm wondering if the season lasts through December and I'm not sure which way to root.  On the one hand, seal the tank.  On the other hand, I need football.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on November 28, 2020, 06:40:33 PM
I'm wondering if the season lasts through December and I'm not sure which way to root.  On the one hand, seal the tank.  On the other hand, I need football.
Tank>football
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on December 18, 2020, 05:54:52 PM
49ers to play out the rest of the season in Arizona.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 18, 2020, 09:56:23 PM
49ers to play out the rest of the season in Arizona.

Fleeing communism.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on April 14, 2021, 10:08:51 AM
https://twitter.com/NFL_Stats/status/1382067623177949186?s=20
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 14, 2021, 05:59:30 PM
https://twitter.com/saints/status/1393208074937282560?s=21

Y tho
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on May 16, 2021, 08:01:43 PM
https://twitter.com/saints/status/1393208074937282560?s=21

Y tho
Money
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on June 05, 2021, 08:23:28 AM
Imagine making yourself this disposable for such a stupid reason

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1400902385623392256?s=20
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on June 05, 2021, 08:57:43 AM
Imagine making yourself this disposable for such a stupid reason

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1400902385623392256?s=20
Aside from some sort of weird medical reason, pretty bad hill to die on.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on June 05, 2021, 10:05:27 AM
Aside from some sort of weird medical reason, pretty bad hill to die on.
The following tweet mentions they'll be allowed to keep their tier status if they have a medical excuse.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on June 06, 2021, 07:29:48 AM
The following tweet mentions they'll be allowed to keep their tier status if they have a medical excuse.

Unless being a retard counts, I highly doubt any of them have legit medical reasons.

I also imagine anyone who has medical reasons making them a poor candidate for the covid vaccine probably shouldn't be interacting with a bunch of rich 20 year olds many of whom aren't vaccinated  on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 17, 2021, 02:56:00 PM
https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1405226106802872324?s=21

Wow
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on June 17, 2021, 02:59:56 PM
https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1405226106802872324?s=21

Wow

Good. Disappointed that they won't also be forcing unvaccinated players to wear bells round their necks and shirts saying "THE ONLY THING I'M WILLING TO HAVE INJECTED INTO ME ARE BANNED STEROIDS".
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on June 17, 2021, 03:06:14 PM
Good. Disappointed that they won't also be forcing unvaccinated players to wear bells round their necks and shirts saying "THE ONLY THING I'M WILLING TO HAVE INJECTED INTO ME IS SEMEN".
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on July 22, 2021, 01:13:09 PM
https://twitter.com/nypostsports/status/1418270947610611716?s=19
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on July 22, 2021, 01:24:26 PM
https://twitter.com/nypostsports/status/1418270947610611716?s=19
Now we have a chance at the title. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on July 22, 2021, 02:40:17 PM
https://twitter.com/nypostsports/status/1418270947610611716?s=19

It gets better:

- if a team has to forfeit due to unvaccinated players, no one gets paid
- any forfeited game doesn't count as a loss in draft rankings
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on July 22, 2021, 02:43:15 PM
Is there a list of what Jets players are antivaxxers?

Most importantly is ZW?
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on July 22, 2021, 02:46:26 PM
Is there a list of what Jets players are antivaxxers?

Most importantly is ZW?

I don't think they make that kind of thing public, I don't recall seeing any of our guys going full Beasley on Twitter though. As of a few days ago there were 13 teams with more than 85% of staff fully vaccinated; only Washington and Indy were below 50%.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on July 22, 2021, 04:13:21 PM
I don't think they make that kind of thing public, I don't recall seeing any of our guys going full Beasley on Twitter though. As of a few days ago there were 13 teams with more than 85% of staff fully vaccinated; only Washington and Indy were below 50%.

Probably not. But there's gotta be some crazy fanboi compilation of who said what to the media and interviewers.

I'd imagine you'd be able to come up with a probable answer for a large number of players.

And who knows. With this forfeit stuff maybe excrement gets leaked to put pressure on players (albeit I'd also imagine this is a HIPPA violation that could stir up legal issues)
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on July 22, 2021, 04:21:26 PM
Probably not. But there's gotta be some crazy fanboi compilation of who said what to the media and interviewers.

I'd imagine you'd be able to come up with a probable answer for a large number of players.

And who knows. With this forfeit stuff maybe excrement gets leaked to put pressure on players (albeit I'd also imagine this is a HIPPA violation that could stir up legal issues)
I don't know that teams would be subject to HIPAA, most employers aren't. But I don't know if NFL teams are considered healthcare providers, I can see how they might be but my guess is that the actual healthcare side of things is probably outsourced with the teams only owning the physiotherapy / athletic training piece. They're already disclosing players' medical information publicly in the form of injury reports, so if they do have HIPAA obligations it may be that players have to wave their rights as part of the NFL contract.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on July 22, 2021, 05:08:29 PM
I don't know that teams would be subject to HIPAA, most employers aren't. But I don't know if NFL teams are considered healthcare providers, I can see how they might be but my guess is that the actual healthcare side of things is probably outsourced with the teams only owning the physiotherapy / athletic training piece. They're already disclosing players' medical information publicly in the form of injury reports, so if they do have HIPAA obligations it may be that players have to wave their rights as part of the NFL contract.

You appear to be completely correct

I had no idea about that. Kinda crazy an employer has no obligation to protect your private health information. The injury and waiver thing I kinda understand due to  the nature of the nfl and competitiveness (ie if you could hide injuries teams would have an incentive to spy on the health of your players etc)

But one would think that the league would shame players for not getting vaccinated if that was a viable option for them
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on July 22, 2021, 05:56:54 PM
It gets better:

- if a team has to forfeit due to unvaccinated players, no one gets paid
- any forfeited game doesn't count as a loss in draft rankings
That's crazy that both teams don't get paid.

Goodell ain't freaking around.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on July 22, 2021, 06:07:22 PM
That's crazy that both teams don't get paid.

Goodell ain't freaking around.


"We're very sorry that you're not getting a game check this week, please feel free to take it up with Cole / Sam / Montez / Harrison / Adam / the rest of the braindead wankers. Feel free to put pressure on the clubs to sit their ignorant asses at home until they figure out that if they can jab themselves full of HGH and whatever other excrement they'll jack up to try and get an edge in the gym, they can freaking well take the vaccine that most of the entire world is doing. The self centred cunts."
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on July 22, 2021, 06:11:40 PM
"We're very sorry that you're not getting a game check this week, please feel free to take it up with Cole / Sam / Montez / Harrison / Adam / the rest of the braindead wankers. Feel free to put pressure on the clubs to sit their ignorant asses at home until they figure out that if they can jab themselves full of HGH and whatever other excrement they'll jack up to try and get an edge in the gym, they can freaking well take the vaccine that most of the entire world is doing. The self centred cunts."

While I'm sure there's quite a few nfl players who use HGH, testosterone and AAS are way more common and effective
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on July 22, 2021, 06:53:57 PM
So to start your list, dcm, these are the main names I've seen so far who have outed themselves as antivax fuckwits:

- Cole Beasley
- DeAndre Hopkins
- Montez Sweat
- Jonathan Feliciano
- Leonard Fournette
- Jalen Richard (no, me neither)

Might be antivax and have been at least irresponsibly noncommittal on it:

- Sam Darnold (dead to me)
- Jalen Ramsey
- Harrison Smith
- Adam Thielen

Feel free to add names to the list as you see them.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 22, 2021, 07:13:31 PM
So to start your list, dcm, these are the main names I've seen so far who have outed themselves as antivax fuckwits:

- Cole Beasley
- DeAndre Hopkins
- Montez Sweat
- Jonathan Feliciano
- Leonard Fournette
- Jalen Richard (no, me neither)

Deadspin's Anti-Vaxxer poster boy

https://deadspin.com/nfl-players-better-get-vaxxed-now-or-it-could-cost-thei-1847345160 (https://deadspin.com/nfl-players-better-get-vaxxed-now-or-it-could-cost-thei-1847345160)


Quote
Might be antivax and have been at least irresponsibly noncommittal on it:

- Sam Darnold (dead to me)
- Jalen Ramsey
- Harrison Smith
- Adam Thielen

Feel free to add names to the list as you see them.

Given his luck with injury and illness he'll just be dead at this rate.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on July 22, 2021, 08:00:57 PM
Zach Wilson?
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 22, 2021, 08:08:02 PM
Zach Wilson?

He was sitting in the vaccinated section during the Islanders games, so either he's vaccinated and just doesn't want to talk about it or he's a complete POS.

Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: casman02 on July 22, 2021, 10:06:30 PM
He was sitting in the vaccinated section during the Islanders games, so either he's vaccinated and just doesn't want to talk about it or he's a complete POS.



To add to this, I think you needed the vax to go to the draft. He was wearing a faux-mask there but and his mother may be.....interesting, but I am pretty sure he got the vaccine
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on July 23, 2021, 05:41:49 AM
To add to this, I think you needed the vax to go to the draft. He was wearing a faux-mask there but and his mother may be.....interesting, but I am pretty sure he got the vaccine

Would a 20 year old without an essential job been capable of getting fully vaccinated by the time of the draft?

Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on July 23, 2021, 06:27:11 AM
Would a 20 year old without an essential job been capable of getting fully vaccinated by the time of the draft?
If they had the right connections. Maybe the Jets hooked him up with the J&J vax under the table.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: casman02 on July 23, 2021, 06:33:23 AM
Would a 20 year old without an essential job been capable of getting fully vaccinated by the time of the draft?



I am a male in my 30's with no health conditions or an essential job living in NJ, which I believe was one of the last states by a decent margin to open up vaccinations to all people 18+. I received my first shot on 4/24. If other states were a month ahead of NJ I think they could have had 2 shots and 2 weeks before the draft on 4/29
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on July 23, 2021, 07:07:10 AM
I am a male in my 30's with no health conditions or an essential job living in NJ, which I believe was one of the last states by a decent margin to open up vaccinations to all people 18+. I received my first shot on 4/24. If other states were a month ahead of NJ I think they could have had 2 shots and 2 weeks before the draft on 4/29

Alaska was the first state in the country to open up vaccines to everyone and they did so on March 10th

Other states didn't start until March 29th, and only very few of them did

Quote
March 29

Some States Open Vaccinations to All Adults

Kansas, Louisiana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma and Texas announce they are expanding vaccine eligibility to all adults, while Minnesota, Indiana, and South Carolina are expected to follow suit later in the week. Nearly all 50 states have pledged to expand eligibility to all adults by May 1.

So it's possible, but fairly unlikely that many of the nfl players were fully vaccinated by the time of the nfl draft

Unless they had special hookups. Which is entirely possible especially ZW

Otherwise you'd have to have lived in one of the first states in the country that offered the vaccine, be one of the first to get it. And even then you'd barely make it
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 23, 2021, 07:20:16 AM
Vaccine centers in DC were allowing people to show up around closing and get the vaccine if they prepped more than they wound up using. He could have received it like that if they were doing it in Utah.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on July 23, 2021, 08:22:12 AM
Vaccine centers in DC were allowing people to show up around closing and get the vaccine if they prepped more than they wound up using. He could have received it like that if they were doing it in Utah.

Sure it's feasible.

I'm just saying I don't believe it's plausible that every player who attended the draft was fully vaccinated, so I don't think you can use him attending the draft as an assumption that he is vaccinated
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on July 23, 2021, 08:42:21 AM
Sure it's feasible.

I'm just saying I don't believe it's plausible that every player who attended the draft was fully vaccinated, so I don't think you can use him attending the draft as an assumption that he is vaccinated

There were only 15-20 players there. I imagine it's not beyond the corporate muscle of the NFL to make some calls and get any player they wanted in attendance vaccinated outside of any stated government policies and without them needing to line up with the hoi polloi.

The optics of a player attending the draft and then subsequently going full Beasley aren't good, and if there's one thing we know about the NFL it's that nothing happens without it first being examined from the perspective of Protect The Shield.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 23, 2021, 12:29:09 PM
The NFL surely had access to the vaccine just like MLB teams were able to get their teams vaxxed before the general public regardless of what state you lived in
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on July 23, 2021, 01:21:32 PM
The NFL surely had access to the vaccine just like MLB teams were able to get their teams vaxxed before the general public regardless of what state you lived in

If it was football season sure I could understand this

But why would the NFL go out of its way to get early access to vaccines 6 months before the start of the football season?

And then to give them to guy's who aren't even contracted in the NFL?

Sure I can understand why the nfl would want to get high-profile rookies to the draft to increase viewers and make monies

But I'd have to imagine the risk of blowback and controversy of getting caught giving vaccines to 21 year olds for a glorified photo op while hundreds of thousands of people have died from the disease makes a pretty treacherous risk vs reward profile
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: ons on July 23, 2021, 05:31:39 PM
Would a 20 year old without an essential job been capable of getting fully vaccinated by the time of the draft?



In Utah:

"Gov. Cox says effective Wednesday, March 24, everyone 16 and older in Utah will be eligible to make appointments to be vaccinated for COVID-19."
- https://www.abc4.com/news/top-stories/vaccine-eligibility-for-all-utah-adults-to-open-early/

Over a month before the draft.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on July 25, 2021, 02:21:04 PM
Bucs are making vaccinated players wear red wristbands and unvaccinated ones yellow, and fining any unvaccinated player who breaches protocols $14K.

Arians is not freaking around with this.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on July 25, 2021, 02:24:10 PM
Bucs are making vaccinated players wear red wristbands and unvaccinated ones yellow, and fining any unvaccinated player who breaches protocols $14K.

Arians is not freaking around with this.

Dudes had cancer 3 times and is almost 70

He's definitely in the very high risk category, so he absolutely should be all over any freaking jackass player that could literally kill him
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on July 29, 2021, 12:53:31 PM
Ryan Tannehill: dingus
 https://www.mediaite.com/sports/nfl-qb-says-he-only-got-vaccinated-because-of-league-pressure-if-you-dont-fall-in-line-theyll-make-your-life-miserable/
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on July 29, 2021, 12:58:51 PM
Just when you thought Cole Beasley couldn't be any more of a knob:

https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1420432504293625858

Also special mention for the Bills putting it out on their official club Twitter account and therefore by definition endorsing his thinly veiled conspiracy tropes.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 29, 2021, 01:11:29 PM
Still refusing to wear a mask properly. What a piece of excrement.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: insanity on July 29, 2021, 02:05:33 PM
I will never understand this rhetoric about how it's a personal matter and I'm going to do what's best for me.

It's actually not a personal matter.  It's a communal matter.  Your actions effect every single person around you.  If you don't want to abide by the community recommendations than deal with consequences.  In this case strict rules to keep the community and more importantly business safe.

Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on July 29, 2021, 03:07:02 PM
I will never understand this rhetoric about how it's a personal matter and I'm going to do what's best for me.

It's actually not a personal matter.  It's a communal matter.  Your actions effect every single person around you.  If you don't want to abide by the community recommendations than deal with consequences.  In this case strict rules to keep the community and more importantly business safe.
My decision to drive drunk is a personal matter and the government shouldn't tell me what to do with my body
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on July 29, 2021, 03:42:26 PM
My decision to drive drunk is a personal matter and the government shouldn't tell me what to do with my body

Drinking water and breathing air is for sheep.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: AlioTheFool on July 29, 2021, 06:20:44 PM
My decision to drive drunk is a personal matter and the government shouldn't tell me what to do with my body

Consuming alcohol isn't putting a possibly dangerous chemical into your body whose effects might not show for years to come!
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Libero_2 on July 29, 2021, 07:46:26 PM
Consuming alcohol isn't putting a possibly dangerous chemical into your body whose effects might not show for years to come!

That’s right! It’s effects are much more readily visible
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: insanity on July 29, 2021, 09:03:24 PM
That’s right! It’s effects are much more readily visible
Woooosh
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Badger on July 29, 2021, 09:29:47 PM
Woooosh
Well I think choosing the word chemical threw off the joke
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: bojanglesman on August 24, 2021, 09:40:03 AM
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1430170624778022915

lolol
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on August 24, 2021, 11:17:35 AM
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1430170624778022915

lolol

I wonder if these guys get paid for every exposure related missed game
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on August 27, 2021, 08:45:44 AM
NFL says that 93% of players and >99% of coaches are now vaccinated.
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Johnny English on September 07, 2021, 12:17:15 PM
Quarterbacks, the smartest guys on the team.

https://twitter.com/troyrenck/status/1435232373017251841?s=21
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 14, 2021, 03:00:35 PM
https://twitter.com/profootballtalk/status/1470833147482943490?s=21

2 years into this excrement and people are still as dumb as on day 1
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: reuben on December 14, 2021, 03:14:08 PM
https://twitter.com/profootballtalk/status/1470833147482943490?s=21

2 years into this excrement and people are still as dumb as on day 1

That's so dumb I almost can't believe it's not satire. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on December 15, 2021, 09:36:21 PM
There's been no double blind clinical trials proving beyond a statistically significant margin that an nfl player, on the football field can transmit the Coronavirus!!!

What the hell are these scientists doing anyway?
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 16, 2021, 11:29:11 AM
https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1471529261601378304?s=10

Insane that these guys are all getting covid at the same exact time yet it’s not from each other
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 16, 2021, 06:47:03 PM
https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/1471638571157278723?s=21
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 16, 2021, 07:02:56 PM
https://twitter.com/peter_baugh/status/1471610603278114818?s=21

https://twitter.com/mikevorkunov/status/1471613101892120579?s=21

Off topic but double wtf from the NHL and the NBA
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 17, 2021, 02:04:14 PM
Welp
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 17, 2021, 02:10:39 PM
Just gonna drop the literature here:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/17/nfl-will-postpone-some-games-over-covid-surge-source-says.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/17/nfl-will-postpone-some-games-over-covid-surge-source-says.html)
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on December 17, 2021, 06:40:42 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and think some kind of mandatory quarantines go into effect for the nfl playoffs.

And I also imagine teams strongly contemplate sitting/forfeiting the last week of the season because of the outbreak/uptick
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 06, 2023, 09:29:19 AM
Pretty wild that not a single player has gotten covid this year

A little hyperbole, but I honestly don’t remember seeing many cases and can’t think of any specifically off the top of my head.

A stark contrast from a couple years ago.

I wonder what changed?

(https://media.tenor.com/2ER74Ee4Ou0AAAAM/hmmnotbad-hmm.gif)

Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on January 06, 2023, 10:54:01 AM
No testing, right?
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: Heismanberg on January 06, 2023, 10:54:33 AM
What if Zach Wilson and Mike LaFleur have COVID brain fog?
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: dcm1602 on January 06, 2023, 12:25:15 PM
Testing is my guess

Plus players are mostly vaccinated so when they do get it they probably don't even know
Title: Re: Coronavirus NFL season adaptations
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 06, 2023, 12:39:28 PM
Testing is my guess

Plus players are mostly vaccinated so when they do get it they probably don't even know

This has not been my experience.