Jet Offensive
New York Jets Football => ...And The Home Of The Jets => Topic started by: Badger on April 25, 2020, 11:49:29 AM
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https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1254090211887386626?s=19
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I’m LaHappy with this pick
#moaroffense
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PEE-ryne
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So long Bilal
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We will remember you Bilal.
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Limited wear and tear. Not the best vision, but definitely a fit in a zone scheme.
Very good receiver out of the backfield. Mullen used him at Z a lot on tunnel screens. He catches the ball better than a lot of RBs.
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https://twitter.com/Matt_Gajewski/status/1254089894554673152?s=19
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According to Google dude can block
Sounds good to me
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So long Bilal
Given that he was never re-signed I’d figure that was a forgone conclusion.
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Given that he was never re-signed I’d figure that was a forgone conclusion.
Eh, he re-signed with us late last year. He's at a point in his career where a team is going to bring him in after the draft even under normal circumstances.
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https://twitter.com/Matt_Gajewski/status/1254089894554673152?s=19
Noice. Smort.
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Looks like runs like an old school back. Reminds me of frank gore.
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Looks like runs like an old school back. Reminds me of frank gore.
That's a pretty good comp actually
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https://twitter.com/JackMacCFB/status/1254091126367281156
This clip was freaking awesome and I hate this school
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Breakdown from the Athletic
Selection: La’Mical Perine, RB, Florida
The pick: Round 4, 120th overall
Past selections at No. 120: WR Gary Jennings (Seahawks), TE Will Dissly (Seahawks), LB Ben Gedeon (Vikings), DT David Onyemata (Saints), CB Josh Shaw (Bengals)
What it means: The Jets figured to address the running back position on the third day of the draft and they did so with their first pick. Perine doesn’t really have a speciality. He just does a bunch of things well. He has good size (5-11, 216), decent speed (4.62 40-yard dash), can run between the tackles and catch balls out of the backfield. He ran for 672 yards last year and six touchdowns (5.1 yard per carry average), and caught a career-high 40 passes for 262 yards and another five scores. Perine was a team captain for Florida.
Douglas says: “He’s a great addition to our backfield in the run and pass game. He does a lot of things well. He’s a big-play back and very productive. We’re excited about him.”
Dane says: A three-year starter at Florida, Perine shared the running back duties in head coach Dan Mullen’s offense, occasionally flexing out as a wide receiver. Despite never reaching 140 carries or 900 yards in a single season, he led the Gators in rushing his sophomore, junior and senior years. Perine tends to be more physical than elusive as a runner due to spotty decision-making and average athleticism, but he runs with outstanding point-of-attack toughness to grind out yards after contact. While he needs to clean up some things as a blocker, he shows the courage and “want-to” required for NFL reps. Overall, Perine doesn’t have any specific traits that separate him as a pro prospect, but he picks away at the defense and is trustworthy as both a receiver and blocker, projecting as a committee back with value as a passing-down protector.
Assessing the position: While the Jets have Le’Veon Bell under contract for this season, it’s the last of the guaranteed money on the deal he signed last year. It seems highly unlikely he returns in 2021. Once he’s gone, Adam Gase will look to implement a running back by committee setup. Perine is the first step in doing that.
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Once he’s gone, Adam Gase will look to implement a running back by committee setup.
Taking bets now on who goes first, Gase or Bell.
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After the nuclear war the only things left will be cockroaches and Bilal Powell on the Jets.
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Taking bets now on who goes first, Gase or Bell.
Bell
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Taking bets now on who goes first, Gase or Bell.
Can we call it a push? If both are here 1 more year? I mean technically Gase would be relieved of duty before Bell in that case but neither would have any impact on the 2021 Jets.
I can’t see any scenario, barring a nearly 2,000 yards from scrimmage season from Bell where he is part of this franchise on his current contract in 2021.
There are at least some plausible scenarios where Gase gets to keep his job next year.
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Bell is most likely gone in 2021 unless he has an elite season. He's probably 20/80 to return.
Gase is probably 60/40 to come back next year.
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Can we call it a push? If both are here 1 more year? I mean technically Gase would be relieved of duty before Bell in that case but neither would have any impact on the 2021 Jets.
I can’t see any scenario, barring a nearly 2,000 yards from scrimmage season from Bell where he is part of this franchise on his current contract in 2021.
There are at least some plausible scenarios where Gase gets to keep his job next year.
If Gase gets fired then it's highly possible that a new HC and OC would consider Bell to be a key part of the offense.
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If Gase gets fired then it's highly possible that a new HC and OC would consider Bell to be a key part of the offense.
It is hard to see a scenario where Bell lives up to his contract, but Gase is still too big a disaster to bring back. Only way I see that happening is if Darnold regresses.
Douglas didnt sign Bell. I doubt most GMs want to spend that much money on running backs unless they are elite, and Bell has to prove that again.
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It is hard to see a scenario where Bell lives up to his contract, but Gase is still too big a disaster to bring back. Only way I see that happening is if Darnold regresses.
Douglas didnt sign Bell. I doubt most GMs want to spend that much money on running backs unless they are elite, and Bell has to prove that again.
It seems highly unlikely that Bell sees out his current contract, but it's far from impossible that he would extend for a more reasonable price if a new HC and OC decided that having a proven elite running back would be helpful to their plans.
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I dont think we can call Bell a proven elite back anymore. The last time he averaged more than 4.0 yards per carry, he was the league's 5th-leading rusher behind Jay Ajayi and DeMarco Murray.
Life comes at you fast at RB. Bell has some excuses for 2017 (no camp, absurd workload), 2018 (DNP) and 2019 (shitty line). But he needs to prove it again.
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La'Mical Perine's total of 40 receptions in 2019 was the 7th-most among FBS RBs
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I dont think we can call Bell a proven elite back anymore. The last time he averaged more than 4.0 yards per carry, he was the league's 5th-leading rusher behind Jay Ajayi and DeMarco Murray.
Life comes at you fast at RB. Bell has some excuses for 2017 (no camp, absurd workload), 2018 (DNP) and 2019 (shitty line). But he needs to prove it again.
I think he's still elite, but it was obvious that the system and personnel were not right even before we signed him. It was like hiring a gifted sushi chef and being upset that he couldn't make a decent pizza on a campfire.
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I think he's still elite, but it was obvious that the system and personnel were not right even before we signed him. It was like hiring a gifted sushi chef and being upset that he couldn't make a decent pizza on a campfire.
He's not elite
There's a reason nobody was willing to trade for him even with us eating a chunk of his contract.
Bell is a leader, awesome freaking blocker and well rounded. But he's not effective let alone elite
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He's not elite
There's a reason nobody was willing to trade for him even with us eating a chunk of his contract.
Bell is a leader, awesome freaking blocker and well rounded. But he's not effective let alone elite
Despite all the limiting factors, the guy was our best offensive player through the first half of the season (and possibly all of it). If that’s not at least “effective” I don’t know what is
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Despite all the limiting factors, the guy was our best offensive player through the first half of the season (and possibly all of it). If that’s not at least “effective” I don’t know what is
Best player on the worst offense in the league?
And I disagree. I think Jamison Crowder was a much better wideout than Bell was a running back for us last year. Sure Crowder was limited the first half of the season on account of us not having a QB for most of it. But that's not on Crowder
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He's not elite
There's a reason nobody was willing to trade for him even with us eating a chunk of his contract.
Bell is a leader, awesome freaking blocker and well rounded. But he's not effective let alone elite
Who knows what Bell is here. He had no chance last year. I found this pic of him trying to run behind our line. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200427/33ebe550a7193f557fd7825842a7f8eb.gif)
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I hope we give Bell an extension so dcm’s head explodes
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I hope we give Bell an extension so dcm’s head explodes
Literally a 0 percent chance of that.
More likely would be cutting him after this season and our new HC bringing him back for pennies
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Literally a 0 percent chance of that.
More likely would be cutting him after this season and our new HC bringing him back for pennies
Yeah but still
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Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN
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Jets signed fourth-round RB La’Mical Perine to a 4-year, $4 million deal. His 2020 cap charge: $796K.
NYJ has signed four of nine draft picks so far.
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No excuse for this guy not to be getting at least an equal share of touches to Gore and Ballage
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No excuse for this guy not to be getting at least an equal share of touches to Gore and Ballage
Especially since he supposedly had a strong camp. It’s not like they felt he was a scrub all August and is just going to be a trainwreck.
Give this man 10 touches in one game is all I’m asking for
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Did he even get in Thursday? I didn't see him.
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Gase said Jets don’t want to put “too much” on Perine’s plate and “stunt his growth.”
What a waste of time the past 2 years have been
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That inside zone that we run no matter what front the defensive line shows is WAY too difficult for a running back that played in a zone heavy scheme since high school.
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So Gase didn't want to put too much on Perine's plate, but we no doubt practiced a handoff to a freaking blocking tight end all week before this game?
Makes sense.
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Gase said Jets don’t want to put “too much” on Perine’s plate and “stunt his growth.”
Gase's existence already stunted his growth
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Gase said it wasn’t the plan not to play Perine on offense. Said that was the flow of the game.
I just checked the game log and our 2nd to last drive of the game Frank Gore got 3 attempts for 3 yards while Bell/Perine sat. And a pass target.
Bell took over for our final possession but it was all Flacco passes.
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So Gase didn't want to put too much on Perine's plate, but we no doubt practiced a handoff to a freaking blocking tight end all week before this game?
Makes sense.
This is a damn good freaking point
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https://twitter.com/nateouttapocket/status/1315796145843691521?s=21
All my homies hate Adam Gase
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All my homies hate Adam Gase
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkE9sbNWsAgp6n9?format=png&name=small)
#JustGaseThings
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So Gase didn't want to put too much on Perine's plate, but we no doubt practiced a handoff to a freaking blocking tight end all week before this game?
Makes sense.
0 offensive snaps followed by saying that kind of excrement is how you lose the locker room. That's such a freaking poopchute thing to say to the media. Douglas can't be happy that one of his only healthy draft picks is being benched in favor of Bell/Gore
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0 offensive snaps followed by saying that kind of excrement is how you lose the locker room. That's such a freaking poopchute thing to say to the media. Douglas can't be happy that one of his only healthy draft picks is being benched in favor of Bell/Gore
freaking this!
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Fiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrre Gaaaaaaaaaasssssssssse.
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I just checked the game log and our 2nd to last drive of the game Frank Gore got 3 attempts for 3 yards while Bell/Perine sat. And a pass target.
Bell took over for our final possession but it was all Flacco passes.
just wasn't in the flow of the game lmao. his eyes didn't reach the part of the playsheet that had calls for perine quick enough. by the time gase's wandering eye got there, the game was over.
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1 carry and 1 target in the 2nd half yesterday
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1 carry and 1 target in the 2nd half yesterday
Didn't get to those plays.
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He got pulled from the game because Gase didn't want to ruin his confidence. Makes total sense. Why Ty Johnson didn't get more carries, I don't know though.
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I almost want Douglas to cut Frank Gore, not because he doesn't deserve to be on this team, but because it would force Gase to actually play Perine and Johnson.
I laughed a bit when Johnson broke his big run. "Oh look at what happens when you run outside tackle with a guy who's actually fast"
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I almost want Douglas to cut Frank Gore, not because he doesn't deserve to be on this team, but because it would force Gase to actually play Perine and Johnson.
I laughed a bit when Johnson broke his big run. "Oh look at what happens when you run outside tackle with a guy who's actually fast"
Nope, you'd just get Wesco at RB.
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I almost want Douglas to cut Frank Gore, not because he doesn't deserve to be on this team, but because it would force Gase to actually play Perine and Johnson.
I laughed a bit when Johnson broke his big run. "Oh look at what happens when you run outside tackle with a guy who's actually fast"
Frank Gore deserves a lot more than being on this team.
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He got pulled from the game because Gase didn't want to ruin his confidence. Makes total sense. Why Ty Johnson didn't get more carries, I don't know though.
He didn't want Johnson ruining Perine's confidence by making big plays and showing him up. More elite man management from the guy who made Peyton Manning what he is.
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Nope, you'd just get Wesco at RB.
You hears of the air raid offense. Well get ready for the blockade offense. NOTHING CROSSES THIS LINE!!!
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https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1320425758645510147?s=19
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https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1320425758645510147?s=19
watch Mims block on this run. You won’t be disappointed
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watch Mims block on this run. You won’t be disappointed
Matt Waldman raved about Mims' blocking in his video breakdowns. Good to see that translating.
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Cimini is reporting that Perine is expected to be the featured back for the rest of the season
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I'll believe it when I see it, but it's about time.
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Cimini is reporting that Perine is expected to be the featured back for the rest of the season
Featured back when Gore needs a rest.
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Featured back when Gore needs a rest.
Gore needs a chance to prove himself in this league.
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The freak were they waiting for? Does he need the BYE week to learn the dive up the middle
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The freak were they waiting for? Does he need the BYE week to learn the dive up the middle
Finally we can test his confidence!
7 carries against the Chargers confirmed
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Instead of 2 yards and a cloud of dust maybe he can get at least 3.
3rd and 15 draw must be having a stroke with this offense.
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Instead of 2 yards and a cloud of dust maybe he can get at least 3.
If Becton is out there, we're getting 4 or 5 to the left.
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Now that we have 9 losses and the playoffs are basically officially dead, there is no excuse not to play all the young players.
Even when you're 0-8, the playoffs are still mathematically doable if you go 8-8 and get a ton of help. Obviously, the Jets were never going to do that, but I understand if you still want to play who you think are your best guys at that point.
At this point, play the kids. No reason Gore should get more than a few carries per game.
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Now that we have 9 losses and the playoffs are basically officially dead, there is no excuse not to play all the young players.
Even when you're 0-8, the playoffs are still mathematically doable if you go 8-8 and get a ton of help. Obviously, the Jets were never going to do that, but I understand if you still want to play who you think are your best guys at that point.
At this point, play the kids. No reason Gore should get more than a few carries per game.
Go freak yourself. Never happen.
- Adam Gase
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La'Mical Peepee
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3rd and 15 draw must be having a stroke with this offense.
Haha, I remember him.
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High ankle sprain, likely out a few weeks
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Bummer. Looks so far like he can do what he's here to do, so even if that's it for the year he'll be back.
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JFC. Sone is probably going to get a career ender at some point in the next 6 weeks.
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Ty Johnson SZN
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Ty Johnson SZN
let's be real we know adam gase jerked off to the news of perine getting injured and the thought of more carries to gore
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Ty Johnson SZN
At one point he was leading the team in receptions in the first half.
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Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
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La’Mical Perine has tested positive for COVID-19, per Gase. Contact tracing underway. First player all year to test positive. #Jets
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Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
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La’Mical Perine has tested positive for COVID-19, per Gase. Contact tracing underway. First player all year to test positive. #Jets
I mean that’s damned impressive that it took all season. But I wish it had happened to a guy who we weren’t counting on being here next season
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Josh Adams SZN
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Extend Gore
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I mean that’s damned impressive that it took all season. But I wish it had happened to a guy who we weren’t counting on being here next season
Just means he can't get a serious injury in a game that has no importance.
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Extend Gore
Gore has a lung contusion? More like the new strain of COVID. He gave it to Perine as a parting gift to the franchise.
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Cool, so we play the team with major COVID issues, and now our young RB has COVID.
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At least it's not Aids.
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Cool, so we play the team with major COVID issues, and now our young RB has COVID.
This is actually a good point.
If he had been keeping to protocols, this is a real problem. At the very least, I'd file a grievance, but I'd probably also call a lawyer. Again, assuming he is following protocols and didn't do this to himself.
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This is actually a good point.
If he had been keeping to protocols, this is a real problem. At the very least, I'd file a grievance, but I'd probably also call a lawyer. Again, assuming he is following protocols and didn't do this to himself.
The fact that the Browns are being hammered by Covid this week and that we played them only 3 days ago.....leads me to believe that Perine could've caught it from them (or vice versa).
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The fact that the Browns are being hammered by Covid this week and that we played them only 3 days ago.....leads me to believe that Perine could've caught it from them (or vice versa).
No, thinking it about now, Perine must have gotten it at Christmas. It takes about 5 days to generate a positive result.