Post by: Jumbo on April 23, 2020, 08:38:10 PM
let's goooooooooooooo
Post by: Badger on April 23, 2020, 08:38:38 PM
Post by: steves850 on April 23, 2020, 08:39:21 PM
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Post by: Heismanberg on April 23, 2020, 08:39:32 PM
Post by: reuben on April 23, 2020, 08:40:46 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 23, 2020, 08:41:18 PM
Post by: MBGreen on April 23, 2020, 08:41:21 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 23, 2020, 08:43:14 PM
Mike Tice breaking down the offensive linemen with his son
Becton was his #1 OT
Post by: dcm1602 on April 23, 2020, 08:43:32 PM
Especially if there's little to no camp?
Post by: Jumbo on April 23, 2020, 08:44:06 PM
Odds of this dude being a day 1 starter?
Especially if there's little to no camp?
I feel that it's very unlikely he won't be able to beat out at least one of George Fant and Chuma Edoga
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 23, 2020, 08:44:54 PM
it felt weird hearing the becton pick being called....like it was strange seeing us do the right thing
Post by: bojanglesman on April 23, 2020, 08:45:23 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 23, 2020, 08:45:48 PM
Odds of this dude being a day 1 starter?
Especially if there's little to no camp?
He started 33 games at tackle in a zone scheme. He's further along than people think.
I think we need to start him out at right tackle if Fant earns the LT spot.
Post by: Andrew Ryan on April 23, 2020, 08:46:30 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on April 23, 2020, 08:47:11 PM
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 23, 2020, 08:48:53 PM
if we hit on becton the look of our line changes completely; no matter what happens with fant/edoga at the very least they can be counted on as depth pieces with starting experience
Post by: casman02 on April 23, 2020, 08:50:21 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 23, 2020, 08:50:38 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 23, 2020, 08:51:19 PM
Just let Becton be both LT and LG
We should sign his mom to play LG
Post by: Jumbo on April 23, 2020, 08:53:18 PM
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Post by: loyaljetsfan on April 23, 2020, 08:56:13 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 23, 2020, 08:56:36 PM
All hail Mount Becton's father, the absolute unit
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Fat Albert: the later years
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Post by: Johnny English on April 23, 2020, 08:56:58 PM
All hail Mount Becton's father, the absolute unit
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Can you imagine how strong the toilet in that family home must have to be?
Post by: guinness77 on April 23, 2020, 08:58:11 PM
Can you imagine how strong the toilet in that family home must have to be?Hahaha holy excrement
Post by: bojanglesman on April 23, 2020, 08:58:16 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 23, 2020, 08:59:06 PM
we have a ton of upside at the tackle spot right now with becton, fant, edogaExactly. If we can find an interior OL in the next few rounds that can be a piece of the future, then all of a sudden, we have the makings of a decent line in the future. Becton is one building block. Fant/Edoga have the potential to be another. McGovern is only 26, so he can be a third.
if we hit on becton the look of our line changes completely; no matter what happens with fant/edoga at the very least they can be counted on as depth pieces with starting experience
Post by: bojanglesman on April 23, 2020, 08:59:40 PM
Post by: Badger on April 23, 2020, 09:04:15 PM
Build that wall.THE WALL JUST GOT 364 LBS HEAVIER
Post by: Libero_2 on April 23, 2020, 09:05:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fht3dfPVfs0&feature=youtu.be
Mike Tice breaking down the offensive linemen with his son
Becton was his #1 OT
My most respected media analyst is Daniel Jeremiah, and Becton is his OT1 as well.
Post by: Miamipuck on April 23, 2020, 09:05:52 PM
Had to do it. I don't watch college tell me how to feel.
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Feel like you just got Coronavirus.
Too Soon?
Post by: Miamipuck on April 23, 2020, 09:07:22 PM
Hahaha holy excrement
Literally
Post by: bojanglesman on April 23, 2020, 09:07:28 PM
Post by: Miamipuck on April 23, 2020, 09:10:27 PM
All hail Mount Becton's father, the absolute unit
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I thought man that's an old fat dude to draft but ok.
Post by: MBGreen on April 23, 2020, 09:10:33 PM
Jets assistant GM Rex Hogan on Mekhi Becton: "The guy moves people like furniture"Hollywood Rex Hogan
Post by: dcm1602 on April 23, 2020, 09:17:22 PM
I feel that it's very unlikely he won't be able to beat out at least one of George Fant and Chuma Edoga
Normally id assume this to be the case.
But presumably with a severely fucked offseason, I think the odds of rookies starting in general is crippled
Post by: Laxin on April 23, 2020, 09:17:47 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 23, 2020, 09:18:37 PM
Aye so we actually have an offensive line now with some talent and depth.
We should still probably draft an interior player with one of our next three picks.
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 23, 2020, 09:19:28 PM
Post by: Johnny English on April 23, 2020, 09:19:29 PM
We should still probably draft an interior player with one of our next three picks.
Maybe another tackle as well
Post by: Laxin on April 23, 2020, 09:19:40 PM
We should still probably draft an interior player with one of our next three picks.
Yeah, definitely. Get Brian Winters’ derriere off this team
Post by: Heismanberg on April 23, 2020, 09:24:11 PM
Post by: Jumbo on April 23, 2020, 09:25:22 PM
https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1243200893262221314?s=20
absolutely disgusting
Post by: klaximilian on April 23, 2020, 09:26:09 PM
https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1243200893262221314?s=20
I am scared.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 23, 2020, 09:29:20 PM
Post by: Miamipuck on April 23, 2020, 09:30:52 PM
Austin Jackson might end up getting Tua killed
He isnt good?
Post by: Heismanberg on April 23, 2020, 09:30:57 PM
Becton tossed him like a rag doll.
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 23, 2020, 09:32:33 PM
Post by: IATA on April 23, 2020, 09:37:21 PM
confession time
it felt weird hearing the becton pick being called....like it was strange seeing us do the right thing
yo same. im usually all ready to excrement on our pick, but this is the second year in a row we made a great pick and im just not sure what to do
Post by: IATA on April 23, 2020, 09:38:07 PM
Post by: IATA on April 23, 2020, 09:38:24 PM
Post by: Miamipuck on April 23, 2020, 09:38:46 PM
yo same. im usually all ready to excrement on our pick, but this is the second year in a row we made a great pick and im just not sure what to do
Hope they don't freak up the next 6 rounds
Post by: klaximilian on April 23, 2020, 09:39:13 PM
yo same. im usually all ready to excrement on our pick, but this is the second year in a row we made a great pick and im just not sure what to do
Adams, Darnold, Quinnen, Becton...
It's a bit longer than 2 years.
Post by: Jumbo on April 23, 2020, 09:42:51 PM
https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1253513895286898690
Quote
Becton said he’s never been to New York, but he remembers that the #Jets had Brett Favre and Tomlinson.
Post by: IATA on April 23, 2020, 09:42:52 PM
Adams, Darnold, Quinnen, Becton...
It's a bit longer than 2 years.
quinnen was a good pick, but i wanted to trade that pick. jamal i thought we had more pressing needs like a qb
Post by: reuben on April 23, 2020, 09:44:20 PM
Austin Jackson might end up getting Tua killed
One of Tice's knocks on him was that he quits on plays a little too soon. Not a great trait to pair with a scrambling quarterback.
Post by: Libero_2 on April 23, 2020, 09:49:54 PM
Post by: Johnny English on April 23, 2020, 09:50:58 PM
One of Tice's knocks on him was that he quits on plays a little too soon. Not a great trait to pair with a scrambling quarterback.
I feel like that's one of the more easily coachable weaknesses a player might have.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 23, 2020, 09:52:16 PM
One of Tice's knocks on him was that he quits on plays a little too soon. Not a great trait to pair with a scrambling quarterback.
Tice talking about technique not really being a big issue to pro coaches is very telling.
Becton doesn't have to go to class anymore. He's a full time tackle. He'll get plenty of time to focus on his technique now.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 23, 2020, 09:52:52 PM
I feel like that's one of the more easily coachable weaknesses a player might have.
Not if it's related to attitude
Post by: Coach K on April 23, 2020, 09:54:24 PM
He was my number 1 OT
Love it
Post by: Heismanberg on April 23, 2020, 10:47:42 PM
He also won the Jacobs Trophy, which goes to the top offensive lineman in the ACC (voted on by coaches)
Post by: bojanglesman on April 23, 2020, 10:48:40 PM
Post by: Jumbo on April 23, 2020, 10:58:28 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 23, 2020, 11:01:30 PM
Per Mehta, Mekhi Becton had 0 holding penalties in his 33 starts
Awesome stat
You don't have to reach or grab when you're that big
Post by: Johnny English on April 23, 2020, 11:08:14 PM
Awesome stat
You don't have to reach or grab when you're that big
Mental image now of him playing LT with his arms folded. "I dare you lover of the older lady."
Post by: Libero_2 on April 23, 2020, 11:13:40 PM
Awesome stat
You don't have to reach or grab when you're that big
Also a consistent one for Douglas. I believe last season between Van Roten, McGovern and now Becton, they had 2 penalties.
Not sure how Fant did in that regard last year. But man, if that holds up, we should be drastically reduced in terms of our number of penalties next year.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 23, 2020, 11:18:48 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 23, 2020, 11:36:28 PM
Otw to Mount Bectons house
On top of Mt Smoky
Post by: Pope on April 23, 2020, 11:37:24 PM
Post by: Jumbo on April 24, 2020, 12:02:48 AM
Sloppy fatz
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Post by: Derek Smalls on April 24, 2020, 02:18:57 AM
Post by: MBGreen on April 24, 2020, 07:14:38 AM
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that'll be me after this quarantine...but white.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 24, 2020, 07:16:05 AM
Let's just hope he weighs less than 400 pounds whenever this season starts. That's the one thing I worry about.
He is still working out to get to an ideal playing weight of 350-355.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 24, 2020, 07:58:45 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/H9K1zpp.png)
Did anyone else, for a split second when they first showed him, think this was Mekhi?
Post by: Heismanberg on April 24, 2020, 08:04:02 AM
Post by: insanity on April 24, 2020, 08:05:23 AM
Did anyone else, for a split second when they first showed him, think this was Mekhi?I got nervous
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 24, 2020, 08:06:23 AM
Post by: MBGreen on April 24, 2020, 08:07:40 AM
Draft Bectons Dad in the 8th
Punt returner
Post by: bojanglesman on April 24, 2020, 08:09:00 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 24, 2020, 08:24:48 AM
Stay healthy big man. Also thank the gods for him deciding to weed up that one day.
#Blessed
Post by: Johnny English on April 24, 2020, 08:31:32 AM
Quote
“He’s got more muscle on his body than most players in the NFL weigh,” Sirignano said. “He could probably line up at tight end if they want him to run a route.”
I want to see this happen.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 24, 2020, 08:34:40 AM
https://nypost.com/2020/04/22/nfl-draft-2020-no-worries-around-mekhi-becton/
I want to see this happen.
Gase will run a tackle eligible play for him in 2020. Just watch.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 24, 2020, 08:38:46 AM
https://nypost.com/2020/04/22/nfl-draft-2020-no-worries-around-mekhi-becton/"Hand off to Becton, aaaaand the seas have parted"
I want to see this happen.
Post by: Koz on April 24, 2020, 08:42:04 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 24, 2020, 08:46:11 AM
Becton’s reply is sending me
Post by: Johnny English on April 24, 2020, 08:51:35 AM
Gase will run a tackle eligible play for him in 2020. Just watch.
If you line him up at TE in a jumbo set you also then have an EZ passing option.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 24, 2020, 08:51:47 AM
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 24, 2020, 08:52:26 AM
I thought man that's an old fat dude to draft but ok.
Same. I wanted an OT so bad I was like ok let's give him a shot.
Hollywood Rex Hogan
#KeepRex
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 24, 2020, 08:54:30 AM
Stay healthy big man. Also thank the gods for him deciding to weed up that one day.
Weed does a body good.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 24, 2020, 09:07:17 AM
(Slowly begins fapping)
Post by: Heismanberg on April 24, 2020, 09:08:47 AM
If you line him up at TE in a jumbo set you also then have an EZ passing option.
I'm just ready for him to rag doll Ed Oliver on a trap play
Post by: loyaljetsfan on April 24, 2020, 09:16:44 AM
I think I’m still drunk
I know I am
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 24, 2020, 09:48:41 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 24, 2020, 09:50:06 AM
I'm just ready for him to rag doll Ed Oliver on a trap play
SLW derriere bitch
Post by: bojanglesman on April 24, 2020, 09:50:18 AM
The moment Joe Douglas & Adam Gase told Mekhi Becton he was going to be a Jet is too good... (via @nyjets) https://t.co/59Odu4xsdP
I..have...a...giant....boner.
"Impose your will"
Big Dick Doug is gonna save our franchise.
If you aren't furiously fapping to this video, you need to get off this site right now.
Post by: Pope on April 24, 2020, 10:05:06 AM
Post by: steves850 on April 24, 2020, 10:06:31 AM
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Post by: loyaljetsfan on April 24, 2020, 10:11:25 AM
I'm leaning towards the former...
Post by: bojanglesman on April 24, 2020, 10:32:32 AM
I wonder if Gase was only capable of asking the most rhetorical question given the situation, or if the video was edited down.Probably edited down because he can't talk to humans well and asked about his shoes or his opinon on tornadoes or something stupid.
I'm leaning towards the former...
Post by: steves850 on April 24, 2020, 10:35:28 AM
Probably edited down because he can't talk to humans well and asked about his shoes or his opinon on tornadoes or something stupid.
I like my shoes like my tornadoes. Disproportionately destroying the poor.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 24, 2020, 10:37:11 AM
Character boost for using sir
Yezzzzirrr
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 24, 2020, 10:39:06 AM
"I got your back, you got mine"
The moment Joe Douglas & Adam Gase told Mekhi Becton he was going to be a Jet is too good... (via @nyjets) https://t.co/59Odu4xsdP
I..have...a...giant....boner.
"Impose your will"
Big Dick Doug is gonna save our franchise.
If you aren't furiously fapping to this video, you need to get off this site right now.
IM READY LETS GO
Post by: bojanglesman on April 24, 2020, 10:45:05 AM
IM READY LETS GOAssemble your crew.
He took us back inside and made us pancakes
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Post by: insanity on April 24, 2020, 11:04:19 AM
"I got your back, you got mine"
The moment Joe Douglas & Adam Gase told Mekhi Becton he was going to be a Jet is too good... (via @nyjets) https://t.co/59Odu4xsdP
I..have...a...giant....boner.
"Impose your will"
Big Dick Doug is gonna save our franchise.
If you aren't furiously fapping to this video, you need to get off this site right now.
Dude is so lazy, can't even get off the couch
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 24, 2020, 11:13:58 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 24, 2020, 11:26:02 AM
I like how any subject here leads to talk of boners and assholes. You guys are in mid season form.freak you man. Right in the derriere.
Post by: loyaljetsfan on April 24, 2020, 12:51:45 PM
"...would never have take him at 11 if I was running their draft."
LOL
Post by: Miamipuck on April 24, 2020, 01:30:02 PM
Just heard some dude from PFF on WFAN saying they had Josh Jones ranked ahead of Becton
"...would never have take him at 11 if I was running their draft."
LOL
Well freak that guy he isn't.
Post by: Miamipuck on April 24, 2020, 01:30:58 PM
"I got your back, you got mine"
The moment Joe Douglas & Adam Gase told Mekhi Becton he was going to be a Jet is too good... (via @nyjets) https://t.co/59Odu4xsdP
I..have...a...giant....boner.
"Impose your will"
Big Dick Doug is gonna save our franchise.
If you aren't furiously fapping to this video, you need to get off this site right now.
That's pretty cool
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 24, 2020, 03:11:28 PM
He is still working out to get to an ideal playing weight of 350-355.I'm sure he's working, but when you have a naturally overweight kid in quarantine without direct access to coaches or workout facilities, a kid like that could balloon out of control. A guy like Bryant McKinnie had years where he wasn't as good just because he wasn't in shape.
That said, Manish retweeted this video of Mekhi working out today, which made me happy.
https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/1253775192842735616
If this kid works hard and listens to coaches to clean up some technique, the sky is the limit.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 24, 2020, 03:14:15 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on April 24, 2020, 03:29:10 PM
He is still working out to get to an ideal playing weight of 350-355.
How the hell is he supposed to do that? Isn't he something absolutely absurd like 18% body fat or something? Becton isn't Vince Wilfork, who appeared to be 80% fat, even though he was insanely athletic.
I have no idea how he loses weight, without sacrificing muscle to do it. I have to imagine we want him as strong as possible
Post by: Libero_2 on April 24, 2020, 03:35:40 PM
Becton on SNY talking about being selected
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 24, 2020, 03:38:34 PM
How the hell is he supposed to do that? Isn't he something absolutely absurd like 18% body fat or something? Becton isn't Vince Wilfork, who appeared to be 80% fat, even though he was insanely athletic.Bryant McKinnie was at 350-360 lbs. Jonathan Ogden was listed at 345. Leonard Davis was around 355.
I have no idea how he loses weight, without sacrificing muscle to do it. I have to imagine we want him as strong as possible
I don't think 350-355 is unreasonable. I thought I heard Daniel Jeremiah say when we picked him that he had texted Becton's agent for a weight check, and Becton sent back a screenshot where it said 353. If he weighs 353 now and is working out one day after the draft, those are good signs.
The two biggest issues with Becton are:
- Can he keep his weight in check?
- Can he learn technique to grow into a top pass blocker?
Post by: Libero_2 on April 24, 2020, 03:50:39 PM
Bryant McKinnie was at 350-360 lbs. Jonathan Ogden was listed at 345. Leonard Davis was around 355.
I don't think 350-355 is unreasonable. I thought I heard Daniel Jeremiah say when we picked him that he had texted Becton's agent for a weight check, and Becton sent back a screenshot where it said 353. If he weighs 353 now and is working out one day after the draft, those are good signs.
The two biggest issues with Becton are:
- Can he keep his weight in check?
- Can he learn technique to grow into a top pass blocker?
No you misunderstand my point. If he’s 364 and 18% body fat (or there abouts was reported at the combine) I don’t see a way for him to lose “bad weight” because it isn’t there.
The training staff of an NFL team will get it sorted out and get him on the best plan/path. I totally agree with your two bullet points. If he does that he’s going to be one of the best in the league and possibly one of the best to ever do it
Post by: dcm1602 on April 24, 2020, 03:54:19 PM
How the hell is he supposed to do that? Isn't he something absolutely absurd like 18% body fat or something? Becton isn't Vince Wilfork, who appeared to be 80% fat, even though he was insanely athletic.
I have no idea how he loses weight, without sacrificing muscle to do it. I have to imagine we want him as strong as possible
Not to channel my inner 624 or anything
But 18% body fat is absurd?
Post by: dcm1602 on April 24, 2020, 03:56:30 PM
No you misunderstand my point. If he’s 364 and 18% body fat (or there abouts was reported at the combine) I don’t see a way for him to lose “bad weight” because it isn’t there.
The training staff of an NFL team will get it sorted out and get him on the best plan/path. I totally agree with your two bullet points. If he does that he’s going to be one of the best in the league and possibly one of the best to ever do it
Well actually 18% body fat at 364 pounds would mean he has 65 pounds of fat.
So it's there
I have absolutely zero idea what an appropriate body fat is supposed to be for a young elite offensive linemen prospects (presumably it'll be higher in older ones).
But quickly looking online It appears that 18% isn't absurd and from the limited information available is fairly average for similar guys
Post by: Heismanberg on April 24, 2020, 04:10:36 PM
It's OK if he's fat
Post by: Libero_2 on April 24, 2020, 04:12:24 PM
Found the article, was actually 17%. But case in point there’s not a lot to lose, and at some point if your body fat % is too low it’s actually really unhealthy
Post by: Libero_2 on April 24, 2020, 04:12:58 PM
He's an offensive lineman guys
It's OK if he's fat
My point was I wasn’t sure how the hell he was supposed to lose 10 pounds lol
Post by: dcm1602 on April 24, 2020, 04:17:26 PM
He's an offensive lineman guys
It's OK if he's fat
Oh I wasn't arguing that he is or isn't fat
Just that 18% doesn't seem like some absurd number
Post by: dcm1602 on April 24, 2020, 04:20:01 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/nfl/news/mekhi-becton-40-time-nfl-draft-2020/1snt6ozzqehpw1pdnmu9wnwfc8
Found the article, was actually 17%. But case in point there’s not a lot to lose, and at some point if your body fat % is too low it’s actually really unhealthy
For guys that unheahlty number is under 10%
And its probably closer to the 5-6% range
That said no way should an offensive lineman be sub 10% bf
Post by: bojanglesman on April 24, 2020, 04:25:02 PM
Post by: Pope on April 24, 2020, 04:58:40 PM
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 24, 2020, 05:09:38 PM
https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/1253775192842735616
method man songs playing in the background after the shoutout he got from him
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 24, 2020, 05:19:06 PM
method man songs playing in the background after the shoutout he got from himI didn't see a Method Man shoutout to Becton, but I was disappointed Da Rockwilder didn't play during that clip.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 24, 2020, 05:24:06 PM
I didn't see a Method Man shoutout to Becton, but I was disappointed Da Rockwilder didn't play during that clip.
Method Man tweeted right after the pick and then Becton replied with a clip of him listening to MM's music
Post by: MoreCharacters on April 24, 2020, 05:31:24 PM
Post by: steves850 on April 24, 2020, 05:33:36 PM
it's called bring the pain you old white heathensWhich is a song off of Method's first album Tical. You snob.
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Post by: MexJetinBcn on April 24, 2020, 07:18:55 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/nfl/news/mekhi-becton-40-time-nfl-draft-2020/1snt6ozzqehpw1pdnmu9wnwfc8
Found the article, was actually 17%. But case in point there’s not a lot to lose, and at some point if your body fat % is too low it’s actually really unhealthy
17% is a normal number. He can still lose 5% and he should be fine. The question is if we want him to lose fat at all.
Post by: Andrew Ryan on April 24, 2020, 09:24:54 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on April 24, 2020, 10:15:48 PM
Becton is tweeting at our draft picks
Love it
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 25, 2020, 03:03:09 AM
He's an offensive lineman guys
It's OK if he's fat
I say draft the dad to play the other side now that we have all these picks. Can't be any less productive than the Polite pick. freak it.
Post by: dcm1602 on April 25, 2020, 09:58:10 PM
Projections on him treat him like a boom or bust prospect
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 26, 2020, 02:46:17 AM
Whys this guy seemingly much more polarizing than any of the other top 4 tackles in the draft?Probably because his technique is mostly just being bigger and stronger and longer than most of the people he's going against. There are some questions about him as a pass blocker, but I think he'll end up answering them.
Projections on him treat him like a boom or bust prospect
Post by: dcm1602 on April 26, 2020, 02:55:01 AM
Probably because his technique is mostly just being bigger and stronger and longer than most of the people he's going against. There are some questions about him as a pass blocker, but I think he'll end up answering them.
That's kind of the vibe I'm getting
I mean what are the odds of a guy being very successful in the NFL predominantly off of physical gifts?
There's no question that this guy's got the highest ceiling of any of the tackles, but he also appears to have a significant amount of risk.
Based off of reading that seems to be the case on Mims too
Douglas seems to have swung for the fences with our most important picks
Post by: Coach K on April 26, 2020, 05:55:11 AM
His problems are very coachable
I'll trust Joe Douglas in making sure an OL is developed lol
Esoecially after heating the phone call when he was drafted. Joe sounds like he plans on being a mentor for him
Post by: Pope on April 26, 2020, 08:17:21 AM
He basjcally doesn't bend his knees or roll his hips through blocksDouglas and Bekton are both from Richmond Virginia so there’s a bond there
His problems are very coachable
I'll trust Joe Douglas in making sure an OL is developed lol
Esoecially after heating the phone call when he was drafted. Joe sounds like he plans on being a mentor for him
Post by: Heismanberg on April 26, 2020, 08:24:03 AM
That's kind of the vibe I'm getting
I mean what are the odds of a guy being very successful in the NFL predominantly off of physical gifts?
There's no question that this guy's got the highest ceiling of any of the tackles, but he also appears to have a significant amount of risk.
Based off of reading that seems to be the case on Mims too
Douglas seems to have swung for the fences with our most important picks
Becton didn't allow just one sack and three QBs hits in the ACC just getting by with pure physical talent.
Douglas mentioned his movement ability, specifically his ability to kick slide in pass protection. For his size, he displays above average ability to kick and mirror pass rushers. His problem, and you'll see this with most young linemen, is that he can tend to overextend or reach on counter moves. That is coachable.
Becton's true value is as an elite run blocker in ANY scheme. People keep saying that he won't be able to just overpower NFL linemen. Just watch. He'll have his way with more than enough of them.
Post by: Coach K on April 26, 2020, 08:58:44 AM
Becton didn't allow just one sack and three QBs hits in the ACC just getting by with pure physical talent.
Douglas mentioned his movement ability, specifically his ability to kick slide in pass protection. For his size, he displays above average ability to kick and mirror pass rushers. His problem, and you'll see this with most young linemen, is that he can tend to overextend or reach on counter moves. That is coachable.
Becton's true value is as an elite run blocker in ANY scheme. People keep saying that he won't be able to just overpower NFL linemen. Just watch. He'll have his way with more than enough of them.
Yeah typically I'd agree with the cant get by on pure ability angle.
Thats what makes Becton so unique though. He can casually bench press and pancake 265 lb edge rushers
His ability to kick slide in pass pro is the scary part . Guy moves like he's 325
He just needs to bend a little more and focus on handplacement
He will eventually get to a point where he latches on and drives ppl to the sideline lol
I'm not worried at all. We got Baby Ogden
Post by: bojanglesman on April 26, 2020, 09:02:44 AM
Douglas and Bekton are both from Richmond Virginia so there’s a bond thereI live an hour from Richmond. I've been informed I'm the 3rd string punter now. Coming for your job Braden.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 26, 2020, 09:06:54 AM
Too early to extend him?
Post by: Badger on April 26, 2020, 09:07:20 AM
I live an hour from Richmond. I've been informed I'm the 3rd string punter now. Coming for your job Braden.This reminded me, I was supposed to make a trip down to VA in June, if it still happens I'll give you a heads up. We'll be staying about an hour from Richmond in the other direction. Was thinking about hitting Veil Brewing and going to a Flying Squirrels game.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 26, 2020, 09:15:30 AM
This reminded me, I was supposed to make a trip down to VA in June, if it still happens I'll give you a heads up. We'll be staying about an hour from Richmond in the other direction. Was thinking about hitting Veil Brewing and going to a Flying Squirrels game.Let me know. Not much else to do out there except drink. Maybe enjoy some fresh air, I don't know...out of ideas. Tip a cow?
Post by: Badger on April 26, 2020, 10:03:04 AM
Let me know. Not much else to do out there except drink. Maybe enjoy some fresh air, I don't know...out of ideas. Tip a cow?I enjoy making fun of the town names... Goochland, Bumpass, Short Pump, Lickinghole Creek
Post by: bojanglesman on April 26, 2020, 10:03:58 AM
I enjoy making fun of the town names... Goochland, Bumpass, Short PumpTha Gooch
Post by: Badger on April 26, 2020, 10:14:26 AM
Tha GoochGoochland Drive-In Movie Theater
Post by: dcm1602 on April 26, 2020, 02:52:24 PM
Let me know. Not much else to do out there except drink. Maybe enjoy some fresh air, I don't know...out of ideas. Tip a cow?
All outdoorsy bullshit
But everything is almost certainly gonna be closed in June
I think vineyards breweries and hiking is like 90% of that area
Post by: Badger on April 26, 2020, 04:58:16 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on May 01, 2020, 11:01:48 AM
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/o9Bk53qwKIu_Jb23lllihg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTM2MC42MTUzODQ2MTUzODQ2NA--/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/6kv9Gu9rJwJfZhYmTlyeHw--~B/aD0yOTM7dz01MjA7c209MTthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https://media-mbst-pub-ue1.s3.amazonaws.com/creatr-uploaded-images/2020-04/1e606a60-8022-11ea-bfe6-414cec3c070f
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 01, 2020, 12:27:52 PM
Post by: Badger on May 01, 2020, 06:28:40 PM
Post by: Pope on May 01, 2020, 06:51:00 PM
MB77
What do you guys think?
Post by: Johnny English on May 01, 2020, 06:57:21 PM
Oh excrement new nickname for him then
MB77
What do you guys think?
Sounds like he's from Manitoba so I hate it.
Post by: Pope on May 01, 2020, 06:59:05 PM
Sounds like he's from Manitoba so I hate it.I was kidding
Every time I read a post about a player and some dipshit on the internet thinks he’s clever by calling them by their initials followed by the jersey number I die a little inside
Post by: MBGreen on May 01, 2020, 07:42:20 PM
Sounds like he's from Manitoba so I hate it.MB77 it is then
Great job everyone
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 01, 2020, 10:20:17 PM
Post by: Badger on May 02, 2020, 08:44:31 AM
I was kiddingThe only time that was cool was for AK47.
Every time I read a post about a player and some dipshit on the internet thinks he’s clever by calling them by their initials followed by the jersey number I die a little inside
Post by: Pope on May 02, 2020, 08:45:48 AM
The only time that was cool was for AK47.I like Allen Robinson as well: AR15
Post by: Badger on May 02, 2020, 08:53:00 AM
I like Allen Robinson as well: AR15Fair
Post by: Johnny English on May 02, 2020, 09:08:20 AM
I like Allen Robinson as well: AR15Also Milan Michalek wore #9.
Post by: Heismanberg on May 04, 2020, 05:18:40 PM
fun watch
Post by: Libero_2 on May 04, 2020, 06:48:17 PM
https://twitter.com/ConnorJRogers/status/1257058535759888384?s=20
fun watch
He just moves guys so far off the LOS it's nuts.
Post by: bojanglesman on May 04, 2020, 07:08:56 PM
I think he fucked one of those Kentucky linemen after he knocked him down twice. Not sure if he left money on the nightstand.
Post by: Heismanberg on May 04, 2020, 08:57:41 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on May 05, 2020, 08:41:23 AM
With pass blocking, he will be facing guys that are both quicker and stronger than in college. That guy flying around the edge won't be swatted away like a gnat in the NFL because he's the same speed, but bigger and stronger. He's gonna get beat some with speed. It'll come around.
That being said, I think he comes in year 1 with a floor of Beachum. Year 2 we will start to see the dancing bulldozer we are excited about now.
Post by: Heismanberg on May 05, 2020, 09:24:06 AM
Trying to tone down expectations this year. I think Becton will be good with the run this year, but he isn't going to ragdoll guys like he did in college. He doesn't have to. Just push them back and open holes.
With pass blocking, he will be facing guys that are both quicker and stronger than in college. That guy flying around the edge won't be swatted away like a gnat in the NFL because he's the same speed, but bigger and stronger. He's gonna get beat some with speed. It'll come around.
That being said, I think he comes in year 1 with a floor of Beachum. Year 2 we will start to see the dancing bulldozer we are excited about now.
Becton can be elite in the running game right away. He is that good as a down blocker in a zone scheme. Gase said he wants to run more outside zone in 2020. Becton make that kind of play much more effective.
I'm worried about him getting countered by more polished pass rushers, but he is athletic enough to recover.
Post by: Heismanberg on May 05, 2020, 09:26:28 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on May 05, 2020, 09:36:55 AM
He also dominated against Clemson, a defensive line loaded with NFL talent.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 06, 2020, 03:04:19 PM
Hn, and I say this with the utmost sincerity, nnnnngggg
Post by: Heismanberg on May 06, 2020, 03:35:27 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on May 18, 2020, 10:42:21 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on May 18, 2020, 10:47:13 AM
A: Jonathan Ogden.
Q: Why him?
A: It’s a guy I would like to idolize my game after.
Post by: Heismanberg on May 18, 2020, 10:49:08 AM
YOU BETTER PUT SOME WATER ON THAT excrement!
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 18, 2020, 03:22:44 PM
Favorite movie is Friday.
YOU BETTER PUT SOME WATER ON THAT excrement!
No sugar? Damn. Y'all ain't never got two things that match. Either ya got Kool-aid, no sugar. Peanut butter, no jelly. Ham, no burger. Daaamn.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 25, 2020, 11:37:25 PM
Forgive me, Mt. Becton, for I have sinned
Post by: Heismanberg on June 25, 2020, 11:45:14 PM
https://twitter.com/pff_austingayle/status/1276196329153314823?s=21
Forgive me, Mt. Becton, for I have sinned
Not sure what Dylan Moses being 20 years old has to do with this...?
Mekhi Becton was 19 years old during this game. He was also playing on the right side in Petrino's god awful blocking scheme.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 25, 2020, 11:48:20 PM
Not sure what Dylan Moses being 20 years old has to do with this...?
Mekhi Becton was 19 years old during this game. He was also playing on the right side in Petrino's god awful blocking scheme.
It’s all part of the PFF algorithm to explain a football
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 25, 2020, 11:48:46 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on July 09, 2020, 02:09:58 PM
Becton's contract should be finalized pretty soon.
Post by: Libero_2 on July 09, 2020, 05:47:37 PM
Jedrick Wills just signed his deal with Cleveland.
Becton's contract should be finalized pretty soon.
Excellent. I’m always excited to have everyone’s deal locked in
Post by: Johnny English on July 09, 2020, 05:51:10 PM
Excellent. I’m always excited to have everyone’s deal locked in
I'd really like to have Jamal's locked in.
Post by: MBGreen on July 09, 2020, 06:07:03 PM
I'd really like to have Jamal's locked in.He is....for 2 more seasons
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 09, 2020, 06:10:36 PM
I'd really like to have Jamal's locked in.
There's a gay joke here somewhere.
Post by: casman02 on July 20, 2020, 07:06:49 PM
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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1m
#Jets first-round offensive tackle Mekhi Becton, their No. 11 overall pick, is signing his fully guaranteed $18.45M contract, source said. He’s in town already.
Its done
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 21, 2020, 08:52:08 AM
Post by: insanity on July 21, 2020, 11:08:59 AM
Its doneFully guaranteed? Thats a new wrinkle right?
Post by: Badger on August 06, 2020, 10:11:29 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on August 06, 2020, 10:27:18 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on August 06, 2020, 10:28:09 AM
Post by: dcm1602 on August 06, 2020, 10:41:25 AM
Alex Lewis now has Becton and McGovern on both sides of him. Let's see if he improves.
To be fair those guys aren't locks to have stellar seasons, especially with moving pieces everywhere and and virtually no camp
Post by: Libero_2 on August 06, 2020, 11:50:38 AM
To be fair those guys aren't locks to have stellar seasons, especially with moving pieces everywhere and and virtually no camp
But it would be hard for them NOT to be better than the players who surrounded Lewis last season
Post by: dcm1602 on August 06, 2020, 08:46:42 PM
But it would be hard for them NOT to be better than the players who surrounded Lewis last season
Beachum wasn't horrible
Post by: Heismanberg on August 06, 2020, 10:04:21 PM
Beachum wasn't horrible
Yes, he was...especially as a run blocker.
Post by: dcm1602 on August 06, 2020, 11:02:19 PM
Of course the Jets had a historically disappointing season in the run game being horrendous allover the OL, the backs themselves, and the playcalling.
That said he did get a vet minimum one year contract, so that's also a pretty fair reflection of his performance as well.
Post by: Heismanberg on August 06, 2020, 11:54:14 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on August 07, 2020, 06:13:32 AM
I know everyone shits on PFF and I'm sure it's a flawed metric, but it's one of the only ones available to grade OL outside of "eyeballing it" and Beachum was ranked above average last year. While that doesn't mean he's pretty good and it's not debatable, it does mean that it's fairly likely he wasn't terrible.
Of course the Jets had a historically disappointing season in the run game being horrendous allover the OL, the backs themselves, and the playcalling.
That said he did get a vet minimum one year contract, so that's also a pretty fair reflection of his performance as well.
I would say that the fact he got a vet min contract is very telling about his value. While his value is not necessarily a direct 1 to 1 comparison to his play, we can strongly conclude he sure as freak wasn’t good last year
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 07, 2020, 02:34:01 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 07, 2020, 07:11:17 PM
If Lewis doesn't improve, hopefully Clark can beat him out.
Based on the scouting reports he should be able to compete for a job relatively soon
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 13, 2020, 09:19:58 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on August 13, 2020, 09:23:47 AM
https://twitter.com/actionjack69/status/1293655716520239106?s=21
I need to know the story behind what's happening here
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 13, 2020, 09:27:41 AM
I need to know the story behind what's happening here
The full video is amazing
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 13, 2020, 09:32:27 AM
Art
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 17, 2020, 10:21:57 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on August 17, 2020, 10:23:23 AM
https://twitter.com/fourverts/status/1295364750969376768?s=21
I've never seen a tackle down block like Becton. He just destroys people on inside and outside zone. Our RBs should have some nice holes to run through this season.
Post by: bojanglesman on August 17, 2020, 04:45:26 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 18, 2020, 07:23:23 AM
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“He’s different, man,’’ said newcomer Frank Gore, who at 5-9 is nearly a foot shorter than Becton. “One of the biggest guys I’ve been around.’’
Becton, too, has been chatty, according to Gore, the free-agent running back in his 16th NFL season.
Jets love what they are seeing in first-round pick
“The first day, he was talking to me out there,’’ Gore said. “He was telling me he’s, ‘Got me,’ and, ‘I’m gonna make sure you I get your 4 yards [per carry], I’m gonna take you where want to go.’ I liked that. I can tell he really likes to compete
https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/mekhi-becton-shows-off-monstrous-ability-at-jets-practice/ (https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/mekhi-becton-shows-off-monstrous-ability-at-jets-practice/)
Post by: dcm1602 on August 18, 2020, 07:26:13 AM
Post by: Libero_2 on August 18, 2020, 09:19:07 AM
Whose the last 1st round jets pick that wasn't getting blown by reporters in his first preseason?
Who’s the last first round pick (that wasn’t a QB) that his teammates were tossing this kinda praise around in the first 2 days of camp?
Post by: dcm1602 on August 18, 2020, 02:55:27 PM
Who’s the last first round pick (that wasn’t a QB) that his teammates were tossing this kinda praise around in the first 2 days of camp?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj.com/jets/2019/07/jets-leonard-williams-raves-about-quinnen-williams-potential-to-be-great-can-he-win-defensive-rookie-of-year.html%3foutputType=amp
And to be fair Gores praise was predominantly holy freak this guys big
Post by: Heismanberg on August 18, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj.com/jets/2019/07/jets-leonard-williams-raves-about-quinnen-williams-potential-to-be-great-can-he-win-defensive-rookie-of-year.html%3foutputType=amp
And to be fair Gores praise was predominantly holy freak this guys big
I mean Quinnen Williams can be great...
He was elite against the run at times last year. If he's healthy, he can be a dominant player.
Post by: dcm1602 on August 18, 2020, 04:05:26 PM
I mean Quinnen Williams can be great...
He was elite against the run at times last year. If he's healthy, he can be a dominant player.
Wasn't a knock on Quennin
More just reporters blowing every 1st round rookie is an annual thing that shouldn't mean anything.
I still remember hearing how Lee and Leonard Williams were DROTY candidates
I have hopes for Becton just because how badly we need it (and physically gifted he is)
But I would be shocked if he doesn't struggle more than we would all like because of the fucked up offseason and so many moving parts on offense.
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 19, 2020, 11:38:14 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 19, 2020, 11:55:08 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on August 19, 2020, 12:06:28 PM
Mims was the guy I was worried about, and now I am more worried with his injury.
They said it was precautionary and that he'd be back in a few days
Post by: insanity on August 19, 2020, 12:06:49 PM
Denzel Mimms: Sloppyfatz
And lazy
Bad lockerroom guy
Post by: Libero_2 on August 19, 2020, 12:40:10 PM
They said it was precautionary and that he'd be back in a few days
The problem is the NFL definition of a few days is 8-10, a regular persons definition is 3. Given it’s now been more than 3 days everyone is assuming Mims will need to have the hamstring replaced in order to rejoin the field
Post by: Laxin on August 19, 2020, 08:19:06 PM
Post by: klaximilian on August 19, 2020, 08:41:16 PM
Mims was the guy I was worried about, and now I am more worried with his injury.
Mims will light it up. His name indicates this to be a foregone conclusion.
Post by: Libero_2 on August 19, 2020, 10:03:24 PM
Becton featured on the new One Jets Drive
I liked it, thought it was a good spotlight. I enjoyed Manyweathers commentary about Becton and his convention for the OL.
Not sure whether Terron Armstead was providing a positive review of Becton or not in his commentary
Post by: insanity on August 20, 2020, 07:20:07 AM
- Jerry Hughes
- Nick Bosa
- Von Miller
- Chandler Jones
- Joey Bosa
Post by: bojanglesman on August 20, 2020, 07:21:40 AM
In the first 6 weeks of the season Becton will be smothering
- Jerry Hughes
- Nick Bosa
- Von Miller
- Chandler Jones
- Joey Bosa
Fyp
Post by: Heismanberg on August 20, 2020, 07:21:56 AM
In the first 6 weeks of the season Becton will be going up against
- Jerry Hughes
- Nick Bosa
- Von Miller
- Chandler Jones
- Joey Bosa
One of these guys is not like the others
Post by: delavan on August 20, 2020, 08:50:30 AM
One of these guys is not like the othersYep. He can abuse Hughes, then the education starts.
Post by: Heismanberg on August 20, 2020, 08:53:06 AM
We shouldn't expect him to come out and dominate right away, but hopefully he wins more than he loses.
Post by: bojanglesman on August 20, 2020, 08:53:52 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 20, 2020, 08:56:31 AM
Trevon Wesco should be able to help Mekhi Becton out with some of these pass rushers. Obviously, he's going to have his hands full with the Bosa brothers, Miller, and Jones.
We shouldn't expect him to come out and dominate right away, but hopefully he wins more than he loses.
This makes sense. Wesco's biggest strength coming out of excrement Hole U was his run blocking, right?
I'm no expert, but I suspect he will have a tougher time with speed rushers.
The OLine coaches should be spending a lot of time working on hos footwork and technique. I think he'll do fine against power rushers but your assessment makes sense.
Post by: Heismanberg on August 20, 2020, 08:56:37 AM
I'm no expert, but I suspect he will have a tougher time with speed rushers.
He moves pretty well for how big he is. I think if he gets beat, it's because he's getting fooled by some kind of stunt or counter move.
If he gets his hands on smaller rusher, it's over with for them.
His immediate impact will be in the run game. I'm with Daniel Jeremiah on Becton when it comes to down blocking. He is truly the best I've ever seen when it comes to down blocking in a zone scheme.
Post by: Heismanberg on August 20, 2020, 08:59:45 AM
This makes sense. Wesco's biggest strength coming out of excrement Hole U was his run blocking, right?
The OLine coaches should be spending a lot of time working on hos footwork and technique. I think he'll do fine against power rushers but your assessment makes sense.
Yep, at WVU, he lined up all over the place as a blocker (TE/FB/H-Back/Jumbo Slot). It's what he does best. He has value for us as a rotational TE, FB, and on special teams.
Wesco was pretty solid for us as a fullback last season. I hope Gase implements more of that into the offense this season.
Post by: bojanglesman on August 20, 2020, 09:04:04 AM
Yep, at WVU, he lined up all over the place as a blocker (TE/FB/H-Back/Jumbo Slot). It's what he does best. He has value for us as a rotational TE, FB, and on special teams.He's no Trailer Trash when it comes to random 30 yard receptions every 3rd game because no one is defending him.
Wesco was pretty solid for us as a fullback last season. I hope Gase implements more of that into the offense this season.
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 20, 2020, 09:19:39 AM
Yep, at WVU, he lined up all over the place as a blocker (TE/FB/H-Back/Jumbo Slot). It's what he does best. He has value for us as a rotational TE, FB, and on special teams.
Wesco was pretty solid for us as a fullback last season. I hope Gase implements more of that into the offense this season.
Looks like Gase is running a lot of two TE sets so far in training camp, which makes sense given our current WR situation.
Post by: Heismanberg on August 20, 2020, 09:28:15 AM
Looks like Gase is running a lot of two TE sets so far in training camp, which makes sense given our current WR situation.
We're better off in two tight end sets if Ryan Griffin is healthy.
Gase's infatuation with the slot receiver will be interesting in 2020. Jamison Crowder should be heavily targeted, but Herndon and Griffn could be target vacuums if we're running more two tight formations due to a wishy-washy offensive line.
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 20, 2020, 09:29:00 AM
Post by: Johnny English on August 20, 2020, 09:36:13 AM
We're better off in two tight end sets if Ryan Griffin is healthy.
Gase's infatuation with the slot receiver will be interesting in 2020. Jamison Crowder should be heavily targeted, but Herndon and Griffn could be target vacuums if we're running more two tight formations due to a wishy-washy offensive line.
With Gore there to take on a lot of the north-south runs that Bell was having to try and make last year, we might also see Bell getting more opportunities to catch the ball.
Post by: Heismanberg on August 20, 2020, 09:38:40 AM
With Gore there to take on a lot of the north-south runs that Bell was having to try and make last year, we might also see Bell getting more opportunities to catch the ball.
Perine also had a lot of success with inside zone at Florida. He's tough to bring down.
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 20, 2020, 12:21:21 PM
i just hope herndon can stay healthy. he can be good
If Herndon and Bell can be healthy and play to their potential our offense has a chance to be good.
Post by: delavan on August 21, 2020, 05:58:54 PM
https://twitter.com/DanSzpakowski/status/1296838867337850880/photo/1
Post by: insanity on August 21, 2020, 09:21:40 PM
making it look easy...Becton vs jenkins
https://twitter.com/DanSzpakowski/status/1296838867337850880/photo/1
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/6aca5869155e21587bd509df5962046f/tenor.gif?itemid=12082780)
Post by: insanity on August 21, 2020, 09:22:17 PM
Post by: Badger on August 22, 2020, 07:40:16 PM
Post by: insanity on August 22, 2020, 09:40:53 PM
https://theathletic.com/2005268/2020/08/18/hes-different-man-the-jets-cant-stop-raving-about-rookie-mekhi-becton/
Can you paste the write up?
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 22, 2020, 10:10:59 PM
Can you paste the write up?
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"He looks big and he's strong and I hate it when he blocks me." -various
There, I just saved you two (guessing) boobless hours.
Post by: Badger on August 23, 2020, 10:25:03 AM
Can you paste the write up?I don't have a sub either.
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 24, 2020, 07:43:03 PM
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Trending Topic (@BigTicket73) Tweeted: I was excited for Madden but I just found out I was ugly ♂️
https://twitter.com/BigTicket73/status/1298041351678959616?s=20 (https://twitter.com/BigTicket73/status/1298041351678959616?s=20)
Post by: bojanglesman on August 30, 2020, 12:08:47 PM
https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/30/mekhi-becton-big-ticket-chain-400k-jewelry-new-york-jets-nfl/
Financial advisor...he is not.
Post by: Libero_2 on August 30, 2020, 12:16:36 PM
I mean I guess Becton is such an intimidating human at his size almost no one would want to freak with him, but man that’s an expensive chain
Post by: bojanglesman on August 30, 2020, 12:34:26 PM
In all honesty when would you ever be comfortable wearing something like that in public?Hey, I'm not gonna tell him its a bad decision. But it is.
I mean I guess Becton is such an intimidating human at his size almost no one would want to freak with him, but man that’s an expensive chain
Post by: insanity on August 30, 2020, 01:23:49 PM
TMZ: NFL Rookie Mekhi Becton Cops Massive 'Big Ticket' Chain, $400k Value!.100% clown move, but I can't even be mad with that big smile hes got on his face
https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/30/mekhi-becton-big-ticket-chain-400k-jewelry-new-york-jets-nfl/
Financial advisor...he is not.
Post by: delavan on August 30, 2020, 07:35:41 PM
In all honesty when would you ever be comfortable wearing something like that in public?
I mean I guess Becton is such an intimidating human at his size almost no one would want to freak with him, but man that’s an expensive chain
Normal people wouldn't freak with MB, on the other hand somewhere some jerk's thinking '400k ?'
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 30, 2020, 07:58:16 PM
In all honesty when would you ever be comfortable wearing something like that in public?
I mean I guess Becton is such an intimidating human at his size almost no one would want to freak with him, but man that’s an expensive chain
Drip comes before comfort
Post by: Libero_2 on August 30, 2020, 09:46:46 PM
Normal people wouldn't freak with MB, on the other hand somewhere some jerk's thinking '400k ?'
That was my thought exactly, one jackass with a gun is all it takes to get robbed
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 31, 2020, 08:57:32 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 31, 2020, 09:50:19 AM
Judgement aside he’s probably insured the thing JIC.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 02, 2020, 08:01:09 AM
He was a 6-foot-8, 348-pound tackle nicknamed Big Mac, and he was a first-round draft pick, which means he was Mekhi Becton before Mekhi Becton, and so Twitter users tagged Bryant McKinnie and suggested he watch the 6-foot-7, 370-pound tackle from Louisville who became the Jets’ first-round pick.
“I noticed that was a big guy who’s athletic with good feet,” McKinnie told The Post. “A lot of big guys don’t have great feet. He is able to move his feet. A coach always said to me back when I was in junior college, ‘Move your feet, you can’t get beat.’ The next thing I see was he’s actually physical, too.”
McKinnie was the seventh pick of the 2002 NFL Draft by the Vikings, and when his contentious 98-day holdout finally ended, when he suited up on Nov. 10, he learned quickly that blocking Giants and Packers and Bears and Lions was far different than blocking Scarlet Knights or Seminoles. McKinnie had not allowed a sack during his Miami (Fl.) days. Giants defensive end Kenny Holmes beat him for a sack in his debut.
“He’s gonna learn hand placement plays a big part,” McKinnie said. “With some people, I thought, ‘I’m gonna be able to overpower him.’ But it’s all about the hand placement. In some of these games, he’s gonna go against defensive ends who are gonna have great hand placement and he’s gonna feel like he’s gonna overpower them, and they’re actually gonna show him otherwise.”
Through a mutual friend, McKinnie spoke to Becton, the 11th pick, prior to the draft and wished him luck. The conversation was too brief for McKinnie to give the rookie the advice he has for him today:
“My message to him,” McKinnie said, “is to one, wear gloves. I wasn’t wearing gloves at the beginning. Two, I would always make sure he would know the game plan in and out so that you can play fast and even if you make a mistake, you’ll make a mistake going fast. Three, I would say find somebody who you can kinda like model yourself after as far as being a professional as far as taking care of your body. Try to be aware of the things you eat, ’cause a lot of the foods that you eat help fuel you and give you that good energy to go out there day in and day out. But definitely time to get massages on Fridays. Fridays was always my day to do like cold tub after practice, get a massage when I got home that night.”
...
Becton prided himself on finishing his blocks last season. Asked if Becton reminded him of himself when he watched him, McKinnie said: “He did. He probably had a little bit more energy than me because I would conserve my energy for each play.”
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McKinnie was one of 17 Vikings involved in an infamous 2005 Love Boat sex party scandal. He eventually pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and being a public nuisance and agreed to pay a $1,000 fine and perform 48 hours of community service. More advice now for Becton: “If you’re gonna do it, be smart about it. Definitely sign NDAs [Non-disclosure agreements),” McKinnie said, and laughed.
No one is expecting Becton to rock the boat with the seas as stormy as they will be at the start of his NFL career.
“You’re taking in everything, you’re taking in a new environment, you’re taking in new coaching, new teammates, the plays. … It’s a lot coming at you at one time,” McKinnie said. “Once you get acclimated to everything and everyone, after the third or fourth game, things should start to slow down.”
Big Mac is excited to see Big Mek play and will be rooting for him.
“I always cheer for like the big guys,” he said. “We’re like the motor. We have to crank up first in order for the car to run. The quarterback is the driver, the receivers and running back are like the wheels, but without that motor cranking up, you ain’t going nowhere.”
https://nypost.com/2020/09/01/ex-offensive-lineman-bryant-mckinnie-has-some-advice-for-mekhi-becton/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Post by: insanity on September 02, 2020, 08:53:05 AM
“If you’re gonna do it, be smart about it. Definitely sign NDAs [Non-disclosure agreements)”
Post by: Johnny English on September 02, 2020, 09:26:07 AM
If he takes one piece of advice from McKinnie it should be :
"If you have a crew, one of them fools need to know that they’re going to jail. I know a lot of you aren’t going to drink, i know a lot of you aren’t going to use drugs but still get yourself a fall guy.”
Post by: insanity on September 02, 2020, 11:32:42 AM
"If you have a crew, one of them fools need to know that they’re going to jail. I know a lot of you aren’t going to drink, i know a lot of you aren’t going to use drugs but still get yourself a fall guy.”What is that from?
Post by: Heismanberg on September 02, 2020, 11:46:35 AM
What is that from?
Cris Carter actually said this
Post by: Johnny English on September 02, 2020, 12:12:19 PM
Cris Carter actually said this
Not only that, but he said it at a rookie symposium to a room full of rookies, where he had been invited to talk to them about the pitfalls of life as an NFL player.
Post by: Libero_2 on September 02, 2020, 02:07:18 PM
Not only that, but he said it at a rookie symposium to a room full of rookies, where he had been invited to talk to them about the pitfalls of life as an NFL player.
Please tell me there is video of this some where
Post by: Johnny English on September 02, 2020, 02:13:59 PM
Please tell me there is video of this some where
Of course there is. There's video of everything in this day and age.
https://youtu.be/pzg90nMY97A?t=36
Post by: delavan on September 02, 2020, 08:04:01 PM
https://nypost.com/2020/09/01/ex-offensive-lineman-bryant-mckinnie-has-some-advice-for-mekhi-becton/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Get up to speed on hand placement, get your Friday massages, and put that stupid necklace in a safe deposit box. Stay healthy big man.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 08, 2020, 09:07:55 PM
Post by: Badger on September 11, 2020, 05:57:31 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 14, 2020, 10:07:14 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on September 14, 2020, 10:10:26 AM
https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1305510984891740161?s=21
He had a great game yesterday. I hate that he's been credited for a sack allowed because he did his job there. It was a coverage sack.
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2020, 10:26:46 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on September 14, 2020, 10:35:44 AM
Becton was the sole bright side on offense yesterday. He and Maye were the only ones worth watching.
Fant was good too
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2020, 10:40:52 AM
Fant was good too
For some reason I keep forgetting about him, which may not be a bad thing, altogether.
Post by: Johnny English on September 14, 2020, 10:41:55 AM
Fant was good too
I didn't notice him once yesterday, which is good.
Post by: Heismanberg on September 14, 2020, 10:54:07 AM
I didn't notice him once yesterday, which is good.
Van Roten and Lewis were bad, particularly in the run game. GVR had trouble with slanting. The Bills have a nasty, talented defensive line, so I expected some problems...
The offensive line definitely looks better.
Post by: delavan on September 14, 2020, 12:44:47 PM
Van Roten and Lewis were bad, particularly in the run game. GVR had trouble with slanting. The Bills have a nasty, talented defensive line, so I expected some problems...Ok Coach, I know it's waay too early but what the hell - what to do? Van Roten and Lewis have 3 year contracts with only around 3 and 5 million guaranteed. So let's say the Jets are picking #5-#7 next April, do they (assuming Ja'Marr Chase is already gone) grab a pair of WRs (e.g. Waddle and either Rondale Moore or Rashod Bateman) or do they go bully guards (e.g. Wyatt Davis & Trey Smith)? Just spitballing.
The offensive line definitely looks better.
Post by: Heismanberg on September 14, 2020, 12:47:53 PM
Ok Coach, I know it's waay too early but what the hell - what to do? Van Roten and Lewis have 3 year contracts with only around 3 and 5 million guaranteed. So let's say the Jets are picking #5-#7 next April, do they (assuming Ja'Marr Chase is already gone) grab a pair of WRs (e.g. Waddle and either Rondale Moore or Rashod Bateman) or do they go bully guards (e.g. Wyatt Davis & Trey Smith)? Just spitballing.
I think if we're picking that high and Chase is off the board, we'd have to heavily consider CB or EDGE (maybe Waddle, he has some work to do to be considered with that high of a pick). The Seahawks pick should put us in a great spot to land a top guard prospect or one of the second tier receivers.
Putting Trey Smith next to Mekhi Becton would be pretty sweet...
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 14, 2020, 02:30:59 PM
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Becton, p-block win rate 90.5%, T-24th OTs. 6 pressures, 1 sack.
Espn next gen stats
https://twitter.com/movethesticks/status/1305531832830554112?s=21
Same pancake from the Schwartz tweet, prob better view
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 14, 2020, 02:50:56 PM
Espn next gen stats
https://twitter.com/movethesticks/status/1305531832830554112?s=21
Same pancake from the Schwartz tweet, prob better view
Did he get any flags besides the early one that was declined? I don't remember any.
Post by: Johnny English on September 14, 2020, 03:31:20 PM
Espn next gen stats
https://twitter.com/movethesticks/status/1305531832830554112?s=21
Same pancake from the Schwartz tweet, prob better view
I think that's Phillips, who is not a speed rusher. He's a very very large man, he has to be at least 300lbs. As I think we all expected, Becton was caused more problems by the speed rush when they lined Hughes up against him - I just don't think that many players aren't going to be able to consistently beat him with a power move.
*looks nervously at the Rams in week 15*
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2020, 03:37:04 PM
I think that's Phillips, who is not a speed rusher. He's a very very large man, he has to be at least 300lbs. As I think we all expected, Becton was caused more problems by the speed rush when they lined Hughes up against him - I just don't think that many players aren't going to be able to consistently beat him with a power move.
*looks nervously at the Rams in week 15*
He won a couple against Hughes. The play where Darnold took a sack on a scramble instead of trying to throw deep to Crowder had Becton just burry Hughes.
Post by: Johnny English on September 14, 2020, 03:38:31 PM
He won a couple against Hughes. The play where Darnold took a sack on a scramble instead of trying to throw deep to Crowder had Becton just burry Hughes.
Yes for sure, my point was more that Becton is likely to see a lot of speed rushers this season and not a lot of Harrison Phillips. If there were any questions prior to yesterday about whether he could use his size effectively in the NFL I think they're mostly answered.
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2020, 03:40:22 PM
Yes for sure, my point was more that Becton is likely to see a lot of speed rushers this season and not a lot of Harrison Phillips. If there were any questions prior to yesterday about whether he could use his size effectively in the NFL I think they're mostly answered.
He’ll hive up his share this season but I think we will be overall happy with the result.
Post by: Heismanberg on September 14, 2020, 03:44:37 PM
I still hate Jerry Hughes
Post by: Libero_2 on September 14, 2020, 04:34:22 PM
He had a great game yesterday. I hate that he's been credited for a sack allowed because he did his job there. It was a coverage sack.
I also think Sam was about to step up and avoid it, but he had no place to step up if memory serves because somebody (I believe GVR) got pushed back in his face
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2020, 05:27:53 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on September 14, 2020, 05:28:59 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on September 14, 2020, 08:30:52 PM
I know Baldy is over the top, but we got a winner in the Big Ticket. If he's doing this in game 1.....
Baldy wasn't shy he was ripping Sam to shreds for his misses, and Crowder's drop...
But man was he effusive about Becton's game. It was pretty plain to see though he was stone walling and throwing Bills around. I have hopes he can hold his own, the next stretch of pass rushers is gonna be brutal. If he survives this murderer's row with any confidence left in the next few weeks, we should be damned impressed. Loved his comparison to a young Walter Jones.
49ers - Nick Bosa
Colts - Justin Houston
Broncos - Bradley Chubb
Cardinals - Chandler Jones
Chargers - Joey Bosa
Bills - Jerry Hughes (round 2)
Chiefs - Frank Clark
looking at this list made me realize a few things, 1. with so many quality rushers in the league how the hell have we been unable to acquire 1 in the past 15 years? 2. If Becton holds up strong through that stretch, the late season will seem like a cake-walk to him and we should have a really good idea of what he is capable of for the future.
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2020, 08:50:23 PM
with so many quality rushers in the league how the hell have we been unable to acquire 1 in the past 15 years?
Because we kept focusing on interior defensive linemen in the early rounds despite being a 3-4 team.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 14, 2020, 08:54:56 PM
Because we kept focusing on interior defensive linemen in the early rounds despite being a 3-4 team.
Why are we so dumb
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2020, 08:56:17 PM
Why are we so dumb
Something something draft vale over need.
Post by: Johnny English on September 14, 2020, 09:01:20 PM
If Becton holds up strong through that stretch, the late season will seem like a cake-walk to him
Now look at week 15
Post by: Libero_2 on September 14, 2020, 09:02:07 PM
Because we kept focusing on interior defensive linemen in the early rounds despite being a 3-4 team.
6 DL drafted in round 1 since Gholston in 08. Career Sacks as a Jet in parentheses
Vernon Gholston (0)
Mohammed Wilkerson (44.5)
Quentin Coples (16.5)
Sheldon Richardson (18)
Leonard Williams (17)
Quinnen Williams (2.5)*** Plenty of time to improve/add to these numbers
Wilkerson is the only one with a 10 sack season he did it twice 10 and 12.5 sacks were his best years. There is no substitute for this embarrassment of draft capital blown into interior DL guys with virtually nothing to show for it. I would be perfectly fine never drafting another first round IDL for 30 years.
Hopefully JD believes in positional value within the draft and understands what is and isn't a premium position and what is worth it when we are selecting in the top rounds going forwards.
Post by: Libero_2 on September 14, 2020, 09:04:08 PM
Now look at week 15
Aaron Donald will definitely take reps against Becton, just like Javon Kinlaw, Deforest Buckner, Chris Jones and a bunch of other DTs will. But I imagine that the Rams will just line Donald up across for GVR or Lewis and let him murder those fools since it's a shorter path to the QB.
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2020, 09:04:55 PM
Post by: insanity on September 14, 2020, 09:14:11 PM
1. Darnolds footwork looks terrible
2. Darnold gets easily frightening with pressure in his face
3. Darnold get happy feet and can't slide in the pocket
4. Fant is a good pass blocker
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2020, 09:17:48 PM
Some other things I noticed from baldys video
1. Darnolds footwork looks terrible
2. Darnold gets easily frightening with pressure in his face
3. Darnold get happy feet and can't slide in the pocket
4. Fant is a good pass blocker
Replace Darnold with Sanchez and see how horrifyingly similar it has become.
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 14, 2020, 09:35:47 PM
Replace Darnold with Sanchez and see how horrifyingly similar it has become.Yes. It was an extremely alarming performance. Hopefully in a few weeks, we chalk it up to Week 1 jitters and lack of preseason.
The OL was fine. I know we rip Gase, but the more I watch, the more he's right that it was a different kind of suck in Week 1. Last year, the OL gave us no chance early in the year. This time, we had a chance, but between bad QB play and bad WR play, we couldn't do anything.
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 15, 2020, 10:04:10 AM
Yes. It was an extremely alarming performance. Hopefully in a few weeks, we chalk it up to Week 1 jitters and lack of preseason.
The OL was fine. I know we rip Gase, but the more I watch, the more he's right that it was a different kind of suck in Week 1. Last year, the OL gave us no chance early in the year. This time, we had a chance, but between bad QB play and bad WR play, we couldn't do anything.
Could not disagree more. We were down 21 nothing in a blink of an eye, and had 4 yards of total offense in the first 3 possessions. Last year we were up 16-0 and pissed the lead away.
Nothing is different...we sucked, still suck, and will continue to suck with this poopchute as HC.
2019:
Passing 28/41 175 yards 1 TD
Rushing 21 att 68 yards
17 First Downs
TOP: 32:01
2020
Passing 21/35 215 yards 1 TD 1 INT
Rushing 15 att 52 yards 1 TD
15 First Downs
TOP: 18:44
Post by: MexJetinBcn on September 15, 2020, 10:22:44 AM
Could not disagree more. We were down 21 nothing in a blink of an eye, and had 4 yards of total offense in the first 3 possessions. Last year we were up 16-0 and pissed the lead away.
Nothing is different...we sucked, still suck, and will continue to suck with this poopchute as HC.
2019:
Passing 28/41 175 yards 1 TD
Rushing 21 att 68 yards
17 First Downs
TOP: 32:01
2020
Passing 21/35 215 yards 1 TD 1 INT
Rushing 15 att 52 yards 1 TD
15 First Downs
TOP: 18:44
Yes, but if you want to do an analysis you cannot simplify like that. We all agree we're not going anywhere with this CS. What matters now, unfortunately, is to evaluate which players will be useful for our next project.
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 15, 2020, 10:33:40 AM
Could not disagree more. We were down 21 nothing in a blink of an eye, and had 4 yards of total offense in the first 3 possessions. Last year we were up 16-0 and pissed the lead away.Okay, but literally nothing you said disputed a word I said. I know the offense sucked. We all know the offense sucked.
Nothing is different...we sucked, still suck, and will continue to suck with this poopchute as HC.
2019:
Passing 28/41 175 yards 1 TD
Rushing 21 att 68 yards
17 First Downs
TOP: 32:01
2020
Passing 21/35 215 yards 1 TD 1 INT
Rushing 15 att 52 yards 1 TD
15 First Downs
TOP: 18:44
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 15, 2020, 10:49:29 AM
Okay, but literally nothing you said disputed a word I said. I know the offense sucked. We all know the offense sucked.
You said it was a "different kind of suck", and pointing out that there's nothing different at all
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 15, 2020, 11:08:11 AM
Post by: Libero_2 on September 15, 2020, 12:11:44 PM
You said it was a "different kind of suck", and pointing out that there's nothing different at all
Gase expects us to find comfort in the fact that we sucked dick instead of sucking derriere
I was gonna say something but SFD said it better.
We sucked in a different way last year than this year. Last year it felt like our Ol was so bad we couldn’t do a damn thing. This year our Ol wasn’t good, but it was good enough to be far better than it was. And our offense was still an unmitigated disaster
Post by: MBGreen on September 15, 2020, 12:29:27 PM
Gase expects us to find comfort in the fact that we sucked dick instead of sucking derriere
Most coaches find different ways to win. We have one that finds different ways to lose.
Post by: MBGreen on September 16, 2020, 11:47:41 AM
@BrianCoz
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Mekhi Becton's knee gives Jets another injury concern https://nypost.com/2020/09/16/mekhi-bectons-knee-gives-jets-another-injury-concern/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
via @nypostsports
#gase'd
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 16, 2020, 11:53:47 AM
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 16, 2020, 12:03:37 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on September 16, 2020, 12:16:51 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 16, 2020, 01:28:43 PM
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Jets first-round pick Mekhi Becton had an impressive NFL debut on Sunday in the Jets' 27-17 loss to the Bills in Week 1. He was Pro Football Focus’ highest-graded rookie on offense and fifth-highest overall.
"He was a people-mover in the run game and made several impressive blocks, which helped him to a 77.4 run-blocking grade for the game," PFF's Anthony Treash wrote. "However, it was Becton's pass protection that was perhaps the biggest surprise of the week. We were worried about how he would fare on NFL true pass sets after seeing very few of those reps at Louisville, but he ended up earning the third-highest grade on true pass sets on Sunday. All told, he allowed just two pressures from 41 pass-blocking snaps and ended the game with a 77.2 overall grade, the 11th-best grade of the week."
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2020, 10:03:37 AM
Post by: insanity on September 17, 2020, 10:55:58 AM
https://twitter.com/joerb31/status/1306557742174408704?s=21
Is it me or is there a hole there and leveon just isn't hitting it.
Just paused it at :02 dude gives up on the play too early and doesn't trust his blocking.
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 17, 2020, 11:45:01 AM
Is it me or is there a hole there and leveon just isn't hitting it.I was told he's an elite offensive weapon. Blocking isn't amazing, but it looks there like there should be a hole for him if he doesn't cut back.
Just paused it at :02 dude gives up on the play too early and doesn't trust his blocking.
Post by: insanity on September 17, 2020, 04:15:56 PM
I was told he's an elite offensive weapon. Blocking isn't amazing, but it looks there like there should be a hole for him if he doesn't cut back.I wouldn't be surprised if oerine ends the season as our best runner
Post by: Heismanberg on September 17, 2020, 04:18:36 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if oerine ends the season as our best runner
That would be ideal
Post by: Libero_2 on September 17, 2020, 04:39:39 PM
That would be ideal
Sadly it might not mean much if he does. But it obviously means more than if he doesn’t.
I think we actually have a pretty good crop of rookies, but they are all broken so no one would ever know
Post by: Libero_2 on September 20, 2020, 08:52:12 PM
Hopefully he keeps up his play and continues to improve
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 20, 2020, 08:55:53 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 20, 2020, 09:22:03 PM
Post by: Johnny English on September 20, 2020, 09:28:34 PM
I want to see the stats but this dude was a monster again this week
If he carries on like this for the rest of the season, just think of the draft picks we'd be able to get for him. Hnnnnnng.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 20, 2020, 09:30:38 PM
If he carries on like this for the rest of the season, just think of the draft picks we'd be able to get for him. Hnnnnnng.
Eventually we’ll max out on cap room and stop having to trade our studs
Post by: Johnny English on September 20, 2020, 09:34:34 PM
Eventually we’ll max out on cap room and stop having to trade our studs
Can't max out on cap if you trade them while they're still on their rookie deal.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 20, 2020, 09:36:32 PM
Can't max out on cap if you trade them while they're still on their rookie deal.
We’re on the same page with Jamal Adams.
If Mehki Becton performs to expectations he will be a Jet for life.
I expect you’ll have a point to the contrary but I’m confident about my statement.
Post by: Johnny English on September 20, 2020, 09:43:51 PM
We’re on the same page with Jamal Adams.
If Mehki Becton performs to expectations he will be a Jet for life.
I expect you’ll have a point to the contrary but I’m confident about my statement.
I don't, I just don't trust this franchise to do anything right until they establish a track record of not being pricks.
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 20, 2020, 10:00:30 PM
Post by: Badger on September 20, 2020, 10:13:22 PM
I don't, I just don't trust this franchise to do anything right until they establish a track record of not being pricks.We haven't made an egregious "why'd you let him get away?" move with an OL since McKenzie in 2005. Osemele TBD.
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 20, 2020, 10:21:26 PM
We haven't made an egregious "why'd you let him get away?" move with an OL since McKenzie in 2005. Osemele TBD.
The Jets' handling Osemele was really bad.
Post by: Heismanberg on September 20, 2020, 10:23:37 PM
He's a good guy to the media and they will hype of the good things that he does, but he is horribly inconsistent and highly penalized.
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 20, 2020, 10:25:08 PM
Osemele is not good.
He's a good guy to the media and they will hype of the good things that he does, but he is horribly inconsistent and highly penalized.
That was a terrible way to handle an injury and a great way to scare off FAs.
I don't care about his talent level, that was the team being freaking terrible to a player
Post by: Badger on September 20, 2020, 10:27:35 PM
The Jets' handling Osemele was really bad.But we have yet to find out how much we'll regret it.
McKenzie was a homegrown player, a pillar of the OL, went on to become another team's pillar and win a SB with them, and his departure left a hole at RT until Damien Woody in 2008.
Osemele was an FA signing that looked good until he was injured, with an ugly falling out with with FO that led to him being gone the following season.
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 20, 2020, 10:28:22 PM
But we have yet to find out how much we'll regret it.
McKenzie was a homegrown player, a pillar of the OL, went on to become another team's pillar and win a SB with them, and his departure left a hole at RT until Damien Woody in 2008.
Osemele was an FA signing that looked good until he was injured, with an ugly falling out with with FO that led to him being gone the following season.
I'm speaking explicitly of the fallout. Really showed what kind of an poopchute Gase is.
Post by: Badger on September 20, 2020, 10:29:05 PM
I'm speaking explicitly of the fallout. Really showed what kind of an poopchute Gase is.Well yeah freak Gase
Post by: Heismanberg on September 21, 2020, 09:16:26 AM
a murder
Post by: Libero_2 on September 21, 2020, 02:05:03 PM
https://twitter.com/ConnorJRogers/status/1307795704644079617?s=20
a murder
I love how he gets up absolutely fired up about his block on 1st and 10 in a game we were absolutely already losing.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 21, 2020, 02:22:07 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 21, 2020, 02:27:06 PM
I love how he gets up absolutely fired up about his block on 1st and 10 in a game we were absolutely already losing.If I just manhandled someone in a football game like that, I'd be hyped, too.
I rarely get mad when players show emotion. I don't want to see a planned touchdown dance down 28-0, but if you made a good play, and you have a raw reaction like that, I love it. Don't care what the score is
Post by: d sw0rdz on September 21, 2020, 03:13:09 PM
https://twitter.com/benfennell_nfl/status/1307839909642764289?s=21
2nd tweet. wesco blocked the excrement out of MAGA bosa and then tore his acl taking him down
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 21, 2020, 03:14:32 PM
2nd tweet. wesco blocked the excrement out of MAGA bosa and then tore his acl taking him down
Way more impressive than the Becton block tbh
Post by: bojanglesman on September 21, 2020, 05:07:51 PM
If I just manhandled someone in a football game like that, I'd be hyped, too.Kyle Wilson's index finger says no.
I rarely get mad when players show emotion. I don't want to see a planned touchdown dance down 28-0, but if you made a good play, and you have a raw reaction like that, I love it. Don't care what the score is
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 21, 2020, 05:47:25 PM
Kyle Wilson's index finger says no.Kyle Wilson would fingerwag when he got burned by 15 yards but the QB overthrew it. Apples and oranges.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 21, 2020, 06:43:39 PM
Becton pancake on Josh Malone reverse
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 21, 2020, 07:07:23 PM
Vs Bosa
Post by: Libero_2 on September 21, 2020, 07:12:25 PM
https://twitter.com/nyj_ndn/status/1308079095817871361?s=21
Vs Bosa
That whole thread was good stuff
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 21, 2020, 10:38:41 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on September 22, 2020, 09:08:21 AM
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2020, 09:11:26 AM
Already our best player on offense. Big Doug hit a home run with this one. I really didn't expect him to play so well out of the gate. Only gonna get better.
Sheldon Richardson was Defensive Rookie Of The Year.
Post by: Heismanberg on September 22, 2020, 09:18:43 AM
Sheldon Richardson was Defensive Rookie Of The Year.
Still a very good player that wore out his welcome with off the field issues and talked his way out of multiple locker rooms
Hopefully Becton isn't an idiot off the field
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 22, 2020, 12:01:32 PM
Baldy Breakdown
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2020, 12:01:35 PM
Still a very good player that wore out his welcome with off the field issues and talked his way out of multiple locker rooms
Hopefully Becton isn't an idiot off the field
We've needed Becton for a long time, Darnold too. Whatever else happens, these are players you build around.
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2020, 12:30:32 PM
https://twitter.com/baldynfl/status/1308447818328297473?s=21
Baldy Breakdown
That was awesome. I love Baldy's excitement.
Post by: Heismanberg on September 22, 2020, 12:36:04 PM
That was awesome. I love Baldy's excitement.
Sam's footwork is so bad
Post by: bojanglesman on September 22, 2020, 12:41:12 PM
Sam's footwork is so badYeah, but coming out of college the deal with him was that he played well despite shitty footwork. That's why he was unique. It would be great if it improved, but all I care is that the pass is accurate. Sure wasn't week 1.
Post by: Heismanberg on September 22, 2020, 12:41:45 PM
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2020, 12:41:48 PM
Sam's footwork is so bad
At least we have an offensive genius and QB whisperer to help him fix that.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 22, 2020, 12:45:05 PM
https://twitter.com/damienwoody/status/1308453141646635009?s=20I think we need a few more games to make that claim, but so far he's been the answer.
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 22, 2020, 12:45:37 PM
https://twitter.com/baldynfl/status/1308447818328297473?s=21
Baldy Breakdown
I would like to see more off-tackle runs on the left side, please.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 22, 2020, 12:47:21 PM
I would like to see more off-tackle runs on the left side, please.Only once they move Becton to RT.
Post by: Heismanberg on September 22, 2020, 12:48:58 PM
Only once they move Becton to RT.
I'm hoping a more explosive player like Perine can take advantage of the cutback lanes that Becton is creating.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 22, 2020, 12:49:52 PM
I'm hoping a more explosive player like Perine can take advantage of the cutback lanes that Becton is creating.Just velcro his derriere to 77 and follow.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 22, 2020, 01:02:48 PM
I would like to see more off-tackle runs on the left side, please.
The #Jets are currently ranked 4th in the NFL with an average of 6.1 YPC on first down carries to the left side.
Nania
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2020, 01:04:43 PM
I'm hoping a more explosive player like Perine can take advantage of the cutback lanes that Becton is creating.
Did he play? I missed the second half.
Post by: d sw0rdz on September 22, 2020, 01:11:52 PM
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2020, 01:17:49 PM
Post by: d sw0rdz on September 22, 2020, 01:24:36 PM
i still can't get over how autistic his 'This 4th and 1 is the time to unleash Josh Adams on the world!' moment was.
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2020, 01:50:49 PM
is anybody asking adam gase those questions? we are all here literally wondering this very excrement without an answer. why weren't we using young players when bell is out and gore needs extra rest days to keep up LMFAO
i still can't get over how autistic his 'This 4th and 1 is the time to unleash Josh Adams on the world!' moment was.
I'd say it's hindsight but I was in the car going "sneak" and Marty is on the radio going "why is Gore coming out now?"
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 23, 2020, 11:40:09 AM
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Adam Gase said every time Mekhi Becton comes to the sideline he tells Gase to run the ball behind him
That’s my Left Tackle, man
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Post by: insanity on September 23, 2020, 12:24:09 PM
That’s my Left Tackle, man
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/OLVk0-D4z1r9m0wuzNhmmTZU9F4=/1400x1400/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19484278/TO_Crying.jpg)
Hell yeah
Post by: Libero_2 on September 23, 2020, 12:48:13 PM
That’s my Left Tackle, man
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Love the mentality. I just wish Gase didn’t need his rookie LT to tell him this so that he actually considers it a viable option.
It should be noted that I don’t believe any of our 3rd or 4th down runs were behind becton.
Post by: Laxin on September 23, 2020, 01:44:06 PM
Love the mentality. I just wish Gase didn’t need his rookie LT to tell him this so that he actually considers it a viable option.
It should be noted that I don’t believe any of our 3rd or 4th down runs were behind becton.
Gase and the dunning Kruger effect working very strong here. Guy thinks he’s smart enough to defy conventional thinking/common sense in order to prove his false perceived mental superiority.
In this case, like many others, the best answer is the simplest one (run behind Becton).
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 23, 2020, 01:45:32 PM
That’s my Left Tackle, man
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/OLVk0-D4z1r9m0wuzNhmmTZU9F4=/1400x1400/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19484278/TO_Crying.jpg)
Eventually that sentence will end with"...you dumb lover of the older lady!"
Post by: insanity on September 23, 2020, 02:09:20 PM
Gase and the dunning Kruger effect working very strong here. Guy thinks he’s smart enough to defy conventional thinking/common sense in order to prove his false perceived mental superiority.
In this case, like many others, the best answer is the simplest one (run behind Becton).
Ehh 95% sure that's not how dk works
Post by: Badger on September 23, 2020, 03:42:22 PM
Gase and the dunning Kruger effect working very strong here. Guy thinks he’s smart enough to defy conventional thinking/common sense in order to prove his false perceived mental superiority.
In this case, like many others, the best answer is the simplest one (run behind Becton).
Ehh 95% sure that's not how dk works
Every NFL coach is basically an egomaniac who thinks he's smarter than everyone else.
Post by: Badger on September 27, 2020, 03:51:10 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 27, 2020, 04:22:20 PM
Post by: IATA on September 27, 2020, 04:42:45 PM
@MMehtaNYDN
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1m
Jets announcing that Mekhi Becton is doubtful to come back with a shoulder injury. CBS declared him out.
Either way, bad news for NYJ
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 27, 2020, 04:45:38 PM
Post by: MBGreen on September 28, 2020, 07:32:40 AM
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 28, 2020, 09:32:21 AM
Post by: MBGreen on September 28, 2020, 03:10:56 PM
@MMehtaNYDN
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3m
Encouraging Jets news:
LT Mekhi Becton’s MRI results on shoulder were better than expected.
It’s possible that he could play vs Broncos, per Adam Gase.
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 28, 2020, 03:15:36 PM
Post by: reuben on September 28, 2020, 03:28:46 PM
Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN
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3m
Encouraging Jets news:
LT Mekhi Becton’s MRI results on shoulder were better than expected.
It’s possible that he could play vs Broncos, per Adam Gase.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/l0MYH8Q83CXvKzXyM/giphy.gif)
Post by: Libero_2 on September 28, 2020, 03:38:03 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 28, 2020, 05:23:42 PM
If he’s not almost 100%, I’d rather he sit this week, heal up and get ready to go the rest of the season
This
My only concern was after the game when Gase was being evasive about the extent of the injury, all I could think was "It's bad. Of course it is. We can't ever have nice things."
If he's not 100%, let him get to 100%. The season is trash already. I don't want the cornerstone of the rebuild to make it any worse. Sorry Sam
Post by: Libero_2 on September 28, 2020, 08:36:28 PM
Breakdown (https://youtu.be/Mdr04MGDpP8)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 02, 2020, 07:08:16 AM
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adam gase said that mekhi becton pulled himself out of the game because his shoulder was giving him so many problems
Post by: MBGreen on October 02, 2020, 07:13:02 AM
i hate Gase so much
I think we're seeing why we have so many injuries during training camp. Gase doesn't pull injured players off the field.
Post by: Libero_2 on October 02, 2020, 07:29:41 AM
I for one am shocked to find this out.
If Becton was a true emergency stirs only guy, then McDermott should have gone in for Edoga.
If Becton is hurt enough to miss another game Gase is absolutely deserving of being excrement on for it
Post by: Libero_2 on October 02, 2020, 07:31:47 AM
i hate Gase so much
I think we're seeing why we have so many injuries during training camp. Gase doesn't pull injured players off the field.
Trainers might also see his tendency to do stupid excrement like this and hold guys out until they are 100% instead of 85-90%
Post by: MBGreen on October 02, 2020, 07:35:01 AM
Trainers might also see his tendency to do stupid excrement like this and hold guys out until they are 100% instead of 85-90%
Gase is Bud Kilmer minus all the championships.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 02, 2020, 07:41:38 AM
Putting him in the game was a bad decision.
Putting him back in the game after he re-aggravated his injury was a bad decision.
Post by: Laxin on October 02, 2020, 07:44:50 AM
No wonder his mom liked/retweeted something last night that mentioned how the Jets have mishandled his injury.
Post by: MBGreen on October 02, 2020, 07:45:26 AM
Dressing him yesterday was a bad decision. If he’s too hurt to start he’s too hurt to play in the game.
Putting him in the game was a bad decision.
Putting him back in the game after he re-aggravated his injury was a bad decision.
Semone Becton should kick Gase in the nuts.
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 02, 2020, 08:01:06 AM
And yet, there are no thoughts from management to relieve this man of his duties
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 02, 2020, 09:33:18 AM
Dressing him yesterday was a bad decision. If he’s too hurt to start he’s too hurt to play in the game.
Putting him in the game was a bad decision.
Putting him back in the game after he re-aggravated his injury was a bad decision.
directly/immediately fireable offenses imo, everything else considered
what was he doing with our franchise LT
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 02, 2020, 09:40:04 AM
I assume the plan before the game was to play Becton in emergency, which happened early. Then when Becton's shoulder hurt too much to play, we took him out.
I'm much more annoyed with sending Darnold in on 3rd down than I am anything with Becton.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 02, 2020, 10:23:29 AM
I don't think it's as easy to criticize the Becton move. Apparently Becton was pushing to play before the game started, yet we didn't start him. Edoga got hurt immediately, and Fant was in and out of the game, too.
I assume the plan before the game was to play Becton in emergency, which happened early. Then when Becton's shoulder hurt too much to play, we took him out.
I'm much more annoyed with sending Darnold in on 3rd down than I am anything with Becton.
Half the people here have given up on Darnold being in a Jets uniform next season. If anything, Sam getting hurt only strengthens our tank. Sending Darnold in on 3rd down was idiotic, but if he was going to get back in the game anyways then I’m not sure why that’s more annoying if we’re talking purely from a health perspective.
If there are any long term ramifications for Becton’s health from a game he shouldn’t have been playing in, in a season that means nothing, I am going to lose my excrement.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 02, 2020, 10:53:54 AM
Duke Mayweather is Becton’s trainer/technique coach
Fire Gase
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 02, 2020, 10:54:49 AM
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What the Jets did with Mekhi Becton tonight was irresponsible and stupid. They knew he’d tell them he could play. He’s a rookie. The team is supposed to look out for the future of their core players.
Geoff Schwartz
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 02, 2020, 10:56:28 AM
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 02, 2020, 12:29:54 PM
it was obvious that he was hurting when they literally caught him on the sideline looking hurt/pissed while holding his shoulder. he still went in after that.
is gase not checking in with his player to see how he's doing? are the OL coaches not speaking to the player, and/or are they just not speaking/reporting it to gase? are they not calling for medical attention sooner than they should be? which is it?
any of the above situations are unacceptable, especially for a team with an OL as poor as ours who may have found their franchise LT
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 11, 2020, 03:12:46 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on October 11, 2020, 03:16:23 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 11, 2020, 03:17:02 PM
For those who are uninformed what the hell is a capsule injury and how bad is it?
we need dcm now more than ever
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 11, 2020, 03:33:41 PM
For those who are uninformed what the hell is a capsule injury and how bad is it?
LMGTFY (https://onsmd.com/treatment/shoulder-capsular-shift/)
Post by: Libero_2 on October 11, 2020, 04:00:59 PM
LMGTFY (https://onsmd.com/treatment/shoulder-capsular-shift/)so it’s basically the integrity of the shoulder joint that we are concerned about now?
Jesus H Christ Gase. The freak were you thinking putting him back in the game last week
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 11, 2020, 04:39:45 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on October 11, 2020, 04:43:03 PM
I really don’t understand how the Jet’s management of this injury isn’t being talked about more.
because everything else is so bad, that's the bigger storyline since we have no indication of how long Becton is out for.
Post by: Badger on October 16, 2020, 08:47:51 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 16, 2020, 12:29:55 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 22, 2020, 11:24:27 AM
1. Mekhi Becton, Jets - 4.8%
2. Tristan Wirfs, Bucs - 5.1%
3. Jedrick Wills Jr, Browns - 5.2%
4. Austin Jackson, Dolphins - 7.6%
5. Andrew Thomas, Giants - 14.2%
PFF
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 22, 2020, 11:28:12 AM
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 22, 2020, 12:11:26 PM
Big jump between four and five.I was told Andrew Thomas was the most "NFL-ready" prospect.
Post by: Heismanberg on October 22, 2020, 12:12:50 PM
Marlon Davidson kicked his derriere all over the field.
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 22, 2020, 01:00:03 PM
I tried to tell you guys.
Marlon Davidson kicked his derriere all over the field.
I legit don’t even remember this dude existing.
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 22, 2020, 01:17:58 PM
Post by: delavan on October 22, 2020, 02:06:34 PM
All the hamstring issues aside, as of yesterday Alex Lewis-shoulder (DNP), Mekhi Becton-shoulder (LP), Sam Darnold-shoulder (LP).
If Becton's still limited in practice at 0-6 vs. Buffalo, let the Jets save their gunpowder and sit him. Either he's 100% or he's not. Again, what's going on here? Did they screw him up re-inserting him back into the game?
Post by: bojanglesman on October 22, 2020, 02:08:28 PM
Again, what's going on here? Did they screw him up re-inserting him back into the game?Yes
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 22, 2020, 02:39:59 PM
Back to Mekhi Becton, it's coming up on a month since he dinged up his shoulder. What's up here?
All the hamstring issues aside, as of yesterday Alex Lewis-shoulder (DNP), Mekhi Becton-shoulder (LP), Sam Darnold-shoulder (LP).
If Becton's still limited in practice at 0-6 vs. Buffalo, let the Jets save their gunpowder and sit him. Either he's 100% or he's not. Again, what's going on here? Did they screw him up re-inserting him back into the game?
yes. we brought him in for no damn reason after the 4th play of the game when mcdermott went down, then he re-injured his shoulder. he was seen on the sidelines with a goofy look on his face holding his shoulder and gase still threw him back in there
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 22, 2020, 03:10:10 PM
Until he Gases the one asset we have left
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 26, 2020, 08:17:12 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 26, 2020, 08:52:10 AM
Andrews looked slow getting around the end there but I'm wondering if Perine would have been able to break that run farther if he slowed up a bit and let Andrews get to his block. Or if Andrews would have just blocked the wrong guy leading to the hole collapsing.
Post by: Heismanberg on October 26, 2020, 09:35:23 AM
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 26, 2020, 09:52:45 AM
Why is an offensive lineman the most fun player to watch on this team?
Post by: loyaljetsfan on October 26, 2020, 09:55:09 AM
Who would've thought watching an offensive lineman play would be fun?
Why is an offensive lineman the most fun player to watch on this team?
Agreed. Too bad he will be in another jersey 3 years from now.
Post by: Johnny English on October 26, 2020, 10:05:36 AM
Agreed. Too bad he will be in another jersey 3 years from now.
That will be the season when we're hoping we can suck enough to draft Arch Manning and move on from Trevor Lawrence who turned out to not be very good after all, so we're trading players like Becton to collect draft picks for our new GM to really do the rebuild properly this time after Fat Joe who we all now hate for hiring that idiot Bieniemy screwed it up last time.
Post by: loyaljetsfan on October 26, 2020, 10:09:45 AM
That will be the season when we're hoping we can suck enough to draft Arch Manning and move on from Trevor Lawrence who turned out to not be very good after all, so we're trading players like Becton to collect draft picks for our new GM to really do the rebuild properly this time after Fat Joe who we all now hate for hiring that idiot Bieniemy screwed it up last time.
and Darnold would have established himself as a top 10 QB with another team that actually knows how to build around one.
Post by: Andrew Ryan on October 26, 2020, 10:10:57 AM
Post by: MBGreen on October 26, 2020, 10:12:37 AM
This is a fun little circle jerk.
Is your peepee going to join in the fun?
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 26, 2020, 11:38:36 AM
Post by: Laxin on October 26, 2020, 02:08:29 PM
https://twitter.com/bigticket73/status/1320692056512147456?s=21
What a terrible, terrible take on Becton by that “analyst” crew. Not a finisher? There’s no way you watch a single game of his and come away thinking that. Just pure laziness
Post by: mj2sexay on October 26, 2020, 02:27:34 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on October 26, 2020, 05:10:36 PM
But clearly he heard from somebody the Giants had Thomas rated highly and this was why, but obviously it appears the Giants were not correct
Post by: Heismanberg on October 26, 2020, 05:25:39 PM
They look almost exactly the same too
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 26, 2020, 05:31:57 PM
Baldy Breakdown from Bills game
Post by: Heismanberg on October 26, 2020, 05:34:39 PM
https://twitter.com/baldynfl/status/1320837187697577984?s=21
Baldy Breakdown from Bills game
If we somehow end up not picking at #1, we should take Penei Sewell and we will have 2 Big Tickets.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 26, 2020, 05:41:55 PM
If we somehow end up not picking at #1, we should take Penei Sewell and we will have 2 Big Tickets.Honestly, as badly as I want a wide receiver (and Chase specifically), you never have to try hard to convince me to draft another stud OL.
Post by: Heismanberg on October 26, 2020, 05:42:44 PM
He'd be a hell of a consolation prize
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 26, 2020, 05:47:41 PM
Post by: Johnny English on October 26, 2020, 05:51:05 PM
Penei Sewell is a generational tackle prospect
He'd be a hell of a consolation prize
I saw someone the other day - maybe PFT? - call him the best college tackle they've ever rated. The piece they wrote on him basically said "this guy is perfect, we can not find a single weakness or concern about his game as he goes to the NFL".
Post by: insanity on October 26, 2020, 05:53:25 PM
As a defense what would you do...
Post by: mj2sexay on October 26, 2020, 05:55:02 PM
I know it doesn't make sense traditionally, but it would be interesting to see becton and sewell on the left side of the line next to each other.
As a defense what would you do...
I would think the move would be to move Sewell to right tackle and have them bookend each other.
FTR, if somehow the Jets end up with the 2nd or 3rd overall, especially given the depth at WR I'm all about this if there's no trade to be had.
Post by: Johnny English on October 26, 2020, 06:06:55 PM
I would think the move would be to move Sewell to right tackle and have them bookend each other.
FTR, if somehow the Jets end up with the 2nd or 3rd overall, especially given the depth at WR I'm all about this if there's no trade to be had.
I think I'm still in the Ja'Marr Chase camp, but I think Fant could probably play guard in the right scheme if we drafted Sewell. He's 320 so he's got the size to handle most DTs, and he's mobile enough to pull effectively. I'm becoming quite a fan of his so far.
Post by: Badger on October 26, 2020, 06:23:12 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 26, 2020, 06:36:42 PM
If we don't get the #1 pick, it will be a heck of a debate among the quarterbacks, Sewell and Chase.
Post by: Johnny English on October 26, 2020, 07:34:58 PM
Bottom line is that we are in prime position to get an elite prospect at QB, OT or WR.
If we don't get the #1 pick, it will be a heck of a debate between Sewell and Chase.
FTFY
Post by: Laxin on October 26, 2020, 08:51:05 PM
Bottom line is that we are in prime position to get an elite prospect at QB, OT or WR.
If we don't get the #1 pick, it will be a heck of a debate among the best available defensive linemen.
FTFY x2
Post by: mj2sexay on October 26, 2020, 08:51:47 PM
FTFY x2
No plz don't.
Post by: Badger on October 26, 2020, 08:52:46 PM
No plz don't.Just think of how good our run D can be!
Post by: MBGreen on October 26, 2020, 08:52:47 PM
#LawsOfNature
Post by: Heismanberg on October 26, 2020, 08:53:04 PM
FTFY
It'll be interesting to see how you feel about Sam Darnold at the end of this mess of a season
Post by: Johnny English on October 26, 2020, 08:55:36 PM
It'll be interesting to see how you feel about Sam Darnold at the end of this mess of a seasonRegardless of how you feel about Darnold, are you taking a QB not called Lawrence over Chase or Sewell?
Post by: mj2sexay on October 26, 2020, 08:56:50 PM
Regardless of how you feel about Darnold, are you taking a QB not called Lawrence over Chase or Sewell?
I wouldn't.
Post by: Heismanberg on October 26, 2020, 09:26:07 PM
Regardless of how you feel about Darnold, are you taking a QB not called Lawrence over Chase or Sewell?
If Ryan Day comes with Justin Fields, maybe.
Post by: insanity on October 26, 2020, 09:29:27 PM
I would think the move would be to move Sewell to right tackle and have them bookend each other.I'm aware that would be the logical move, but think about the idea of those two players playing next to each other. With their size, speed, strength and overall dominance, teams would have to create a gameplan for our offensive line.
FTR, if somehow the Jets end up with the 2nd or 3rd overall, especially given the depth at WR I'm all about this if there's no trade to be had.
They'd have to shift players to that side of the field. It doesn't even need to be an every play thing. If we still had fant we could move Sewell from Tackle to guard like an offensive weapon.
If its 3rd and 1 and the short side of the field is the weak side, how do you line up your defense? Do you play straight up and allow Becton and Sewell to dominate or do you shift your d to the strength of our o line and leave the field side open for an outside zone, toss, roll out, etc.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 26, 2020, 09:51:57 PM
Regardless of how you feel about Darnold, are you taking a QB not called Lawrence over Chase or Sewell?As of now, I wouldn't either, but Fields and Darnold still have most of their seasons remaining. Darnold is trending down and Fields is trending up. Plenty of time for that to change though.
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 26, 2020, 09:53:44 PM
If we draft Sewell do we move Becton over from left to right tackle or do we spend a second overall pick on a right tackle?
Post by: Libero_2 on October 26, 2020, 09:54:30 PM
I'm aware that would be the logical move, but think about the idea of those two players playing next to each other. With their size, speed, strength and overall dominance, teams would have to create a gameplan for our offensive line.
They'd have to shift players to that side of the field. It doesn't even need to be an every play thing. If we still had fant we could move Sewell from Tackle to guard like an offensive weapon.
If its 3rd and 1 and the short side of the field is the weak side, how do you line up your defense? Do you play straight up and allow Becton and Sewell to dominate or do you shift your d to the strength of our o line and leave the field side open for an outside zone, toss, roll out, etc.
It’s an interesting idea. It would take a creative mind open to trying new things, and frankly I don’t know if an OL situation in NFL history that’s ever operated like this outside of very specific goal to go situations. I’d be curious to know if there ever was one where this type of thing happened with regularity
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 26, 2020, 09:55:06 PM
I asked in the Buffalo post game thread but it makes more sense to have the question here:Why would we spend a 2nd-round pick on an RT? If we draft Sewell, we have our bookend tackles. Which side are they on? That can play itself out later.
If we draft Sewell do we move Becton over from left to right tackle or do we spend a second round pick on a right tackle?
Post by: Libero_2 on October 26, 2020, 09:56:00 PM
I asked in the Buffalo post game thread but it makes more sense to have the question here:
If we draft Sewell do we move Becton over from left to right tackle or do we spend a second round pick on a right tackle?
I think if we did it, we let them fight it out, winner gets to be LT loser is the RT. I think it’s that simple, don’t designate it make the two studs sort it out with their play
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 26, 2020, 09:56:27 PM
Why would we spend a 2nd-round pick on an RT? If we draft Sewell, we have our bookend tackles. Which side are they on? That can play itself out later.
Typo. Meant #2 pick on a RT. Post has been edited.
Post by: Libero_2 on October 26, 2020, 09:56:44 PM
Why would we spend a 2nd-round pick on an RT? If we draft Sewell, we have our bookend tackles. Which side are they on? That can play itself out later.
I believe he meant 2nd overall pick.
Meaning we just took an RT (intentionally) with the #2 Overall pick
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 26, 2020, 09:59:07 PM
I believe he meant 2nd overall pick.Realized it right after I replied.
Meaning we just took an RT (intentionally) with the #2 Overall pick
I'm fine with it. OT is a vital position. Sewell can also be the backup LT if Becton goes down (or vice versa). Plus, the importance of the two OT positions isn't nearly what it was 20 years ago. It does bump his value for us slightly, but that's only really in case of a tiebreaker IMO.
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 26, 2020, 09:59:21 PM
I think if we did it, we let them fight it out, winner gets to be LT loser is the RT. I think it’s that simple, don’t designate it make the two studs sort it out with their play
At some point the scheme has to be set and I think that has to come before the end of the preseason.
I also think demoting Becton is a great way to run him out of town. He's a highly aggressive competitor who likes being the top dog. I don't think he'd be happy with the team drafting his replacement after his rookie season.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 26, 2020, 10:00:30 PM
At some point the scheme has to be set and I think that has to come before the end of the preseason.If we think Becton is going to have a problem with it, play Sewell on the right side. Odds are that's what would happen anyway.
I also think demoting Becton is a great way to run him out of town. He's a highly aggressive competitor who likes being the top dog. I don't think he'd be happy with the team drafting his replacement after his rookie season.
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 26, 2020, 10:04:07 PM
I think if we're out of the running for Lawrence we're either targeting a different QB, Chase, or trading down.
I wouldn't be upset with Sewell but I think we'd be better served adding top talent at a position that is actively struggling.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 26, 2020, 10:07:54 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on October 26, 2020, 10:08:05 PM
At some point the scheme has to be set and I think that has to come before the end of the preseason.
I also think demoting Becton is a great way to run him out of town. He's a highly aggressive competitor who likes being the top dog. I don't think he'd be happy with the team drafting his replacement after his rookie season.
In this scenario if Becton wants to be top dawg he needs to earn it by winning the competition. If he wins it he gets to be top dawg. If he doesn’t, then he needs to work harder. This is the NFL.
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 26, 2020, 10:15:41 PM
In this scenario if Becton wants to be top dawg he needs to earn it by winning the competition. If he wins it he gets to be top dawg. If he doesn’t, then he needs to work harder. This is the NFL.
The FO does not have a good reputation with the locker room right now. I would avoid scenarios of forcing a top draft pick to fight for his job a year after a promising rookie season.
If Sewell is the best prospect on the board and we cannot get a trade down then yes, pull the trigger and let the rookie play RT.
Otherwise, make a trade and go for the picks.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 26, 2020, 10:17:19 PM
The FO does not have a good reputation with the locker room right now. I would avoid scenarios of forcing a top draft pick to fight for his job a year after a promising rookie season.Man, Jets fans love to make up drama when it doesn't exist. I think Becton would love to have a guy like Sewell come in to help out the entire OL. Becton would likely keep the LT job anyway, at least next year.
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 26, 2020, 10:27:45 PM
Man, Jets fans love to make up drama when it doesn't exist. I think Becton would love to have a guy like Sewell come in to help out the entire OL. Becton would likely keep the LT job anyway, at least next year.
I think two players forcing their way off of the team in one season is sufficient evidence.
Post by: bojanglesman on October 27, 2020, 06:01:36 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 27, 2020, 06:34:43 AM
Big Dicket
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
Post by: bojanglesman on October 27, 2020, 06:55:33 AM
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.Mankhi Bectbun
I'll see myself out.
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 27, 2020, 07:47:54 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on October 27, 2020, 08:57:39 AM
Having two good tackles isn't a problem it's a goal. Our good early 80s teams began with drafting Marvin Powell #1 in 1977 and Chris Ward #1 in 1978.I won't rest until we have a 9-deep elite LT roster.
Post by: Badger on October 27, 2020, 09:16:55 AM
I think building up our offensive line will make our entire offense look better,
Whaaaaaaaaa?
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 27, 2020, 12:24:40 PM
Post by: reuben on October 27, 2020, 03:00:33 PM
https://twitter.com/RobbySabo/status/1321137874939662336
Could do without the Generica soundtrack but still quality fap material.
Post by: Badger on October 27, 2020, 06:46:07 PM
Could do without the Generica soundtrack but still quality fap material.Generadeth > Generica
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 02, 2020, 11:46:24 AM
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 02, 2020, 11:58:40 AM
https://twitter.com/richcimini/status/1323291611271434244?s=21
How do Adam Gase and Dowell Loggains still have jobs?!
Post by: Heismanberg on November 02, 2020, 12:26:32 PM
We couldn't throw the ball into the ocean yesterday, but Loggains was trying to run it right to set up the rollouts for Sam.
We're about as bad as it gets offensively.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 03, 2020, 09:50:57 AM
Post by: Johnny English on November 03, 2020, 09:56:02 AM
Post by: MBGreen on November 10, 2020, 07:24:38 AM
@Michael_Nania
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#Jets rushing last night
Prior to Becton's exit: 7 carries for 37 yards (5.3 YPC)
After Becton's exit: 11 carries for 28 yards (2.5 YPC)
Post by: bojanglesman on November 10, 2020, 07:31:46 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 10, 2020, 08:04:31 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 10, 2020, 10:21:46 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on November 10, 2020, 10:22:11 AM
Post by: mj2sexay on November 10, 2020, 10:54:23 AM
Post by: reuben on November 10, 2020, 01:16:04 PM
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Jets LT Mekhi Becton (chest) was pulled from Monday night's game against the Patriots because he was having trouble breathing.
Becton briefly played injured before the Jets ended his night. They are claiming it is not a muscular issue, and that they are "hoping he can play next game." That would be Week 11 against the Chargers since they are on bye this week. The Jets do not have the greatest track record of looking out for their blindside protector's health. Hopefully they will do so this time.
OK I'm still very concerned.
Post by: MBGreen on November 10, 2020, 01:19:24 PM
OK I'm still very concerned.
Sit him. Don't think about it, just do it Gase.
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 10, 2020, 01:20:41 PM
I just wonder what it was that took him out of an entire game.
Post by: Badger on November 10, 2020, 01:22:06 PM
WhewHe was merely serving the tank
I just wonder what it was that took him out of an entire game.
Post by: Heismanberg on November 10, 2020, 01:49:36 PM
OK I'm still very concerned.
Questionable to Return: Morbidly Obese
Post by: bojanglesman on November 10, 2020, 02:04:00 PM
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 10, 2020, 02:08:43 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 10, 2020, 09:04:20 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 30, 2020, 12:39:24 PM
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Just 1 pressure allowed by Mekhi Becton against the Dolphins.
Over last 4 games, Becton has given up 4 pressures (all of them were hurries - 0 sacks or hits) over 111 protection snaps (3.6% pressure rate)
#Jets
Nania
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 01, 2020, 01:02:43 PM
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Mekhi Becton over his last two games
▪️ 72 pass-block snaps
▪️ 1 QB pressure allowed
▪️ 0 sacks
PFF
Post by: d sw0rdz on December 01, 2020, 03:36:51 PM
PFF
gat dayum
Post by: Libero_2 on December 01, 2020, 05:25:05 PM
PFF
Dat boy good
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 02, 2020, 11:45:50 AM
Post by: Miamipuck on December 02, 2020, 12:10:24 PM
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 02, 2020, 12:19:56 PM
Brick wasn't a perennial all-pro but he never got hurt or missed a game in his entire career, an overlooked quality that not many possess in the NFL.
Yeah, he was solid, dependable and allowed the QB to throw, RBs to run, which is what you want. Becton is next level, if anyone remembers Marvin Powell, if he stays healthy and we get 10 other good players on offense, we're good at LT.
At least until we decide not to pay him and draft another LT.
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 02, 2020, 12:38:05 PM
https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/53937/dbrickashaw-ferguson-hasnt-missed-a-game-practice-or-play-in-nine-years-well-one-play
Post by: Miamipuck on December 02, 2020, 01:01:11 PM
Becton has a level Brick probably would never be able to reach, I just hope he has at least some measure of health in his career.
Post by: dcm1602 on December 03, 2020, 07:39:56 PM
But it is interesting Becton leads all AFC tackles in votes
Post by: Libero_2 on December 03, 2020, 07:48:57 PM
Obviously the probowl is worthless and means nothing as it's a popularity contest.
But it is interesting Becton leads all AFC tackles in votes
I am quite certain if Mekhi does in fact make the Pro Bowl he should send Brian Baldinger a fruit basket. The man-love from Baldy circulating the twitter-verse quite obviously did the trick
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 03, 2020, 07:52:30 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 03, 2020, 07:55:50 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 05, 2020, 04:08:43 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on December 05, 2020, 04:11:05 PM
https://twitter.com/dtereman/status/1335268162615578627?s=21
My man needs to use some of that bonus money on Proactiv.
Post by: Johnny English on December 05, 2020, 05:06:50 PM
https://twitter.com/dtereman/status/1335268162615578627?s=21
Will be a fat lazy drunk that everyone hates by season 3, and we'll be wondering why O'Brien and his OC Nagy can't even get him playing to the standard we saw under Gase.
Post by: dcm1602 on December 05, 2020, 05:19:38 PM
Post by: Badger on December 05, 2020, 06:18:23 PM
Rookie contracts get significant bonuses tied to probowl appearances?I'm Ron Burgundy?
Post by: Libero_2 on December 05, 2020, 07:00:04 PM
Rookie contracts get significant bonuses tied to probowl appearances?
First rounders only and it affects their 5th year option if it is picked up.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 06, 2020, 11:50:42 PM
Rookie contracts get significant bonuses tied to probowl appearances?
Idk. You’re the freaking cap expert.
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 21, 2020, 01:06:34 PM
This week's 6-MINUTE Becton video from Baldinger.
Post by: Johnny English on December 21, 2020, 01:47:54 PM
https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1341084850464428040
This week's 6-MINUTE Becton video from Baldinger.
To paraphrase you from a few weeks ago: we can all dream of having someone who loves us the was Baldy loves Becton.
Post by: Heismanberg on December 21, 2020, 01:52:52 PM
He is as good as I thought he would be already.
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 21, 2020, 08:06:15 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on December 21, 2020, 08:11:31 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 21, 2020, 08:20:22 PM
Mosque of Mekhi
I had either that or Order of the Bectonites so works for me.
Post by: Jumbo on December 21, 2020, 08:20:34 PM
Post by: Badger on December 21, 2020, 08:27:08 PM
Where’s the religion pun based thread name?Sermon on Mount Becton
Post by: insanity on December 21, 2020, 08:28:11 PM
Mosque of Mekhi+1
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 21, 2020, 08:32:05 PM
Sermon on Mount Becton
Here’s your winner.
Request the thread name be changed to quoted post.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 02, 2021, 12:24:38 PM
https://t.co/CiwRExr0Vw
Post by: bojanglesman on January 07, 2021, 05:00:27 PM
Charlie Potatoes
@JARheadRoom
Replying to @Connor_J_Hughes
I'm hoping for a buddy reality show with @BigTicket73 and @nickmangold
https://twitter.com/BigTicket73/status/1346145641148383234
Let’s make it happen big dawg! @nickmangold
https://twitter.com/nickmangold/status/1346191677476794371
Just fatter version of Rocky and Apollo! Let’s roll @BigTicket73! #NYJ @nyjets https://t.co/8o7QZQYlZu
Let this happen
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 07, 2021, 05:08:01 PM
Post by: insanity on January 07, 2021, 05:42:46 PM
Williams has to get in on this somehow.He's the villain with a fake curly mustache
Post by: Heismanberg on January 08, 2021, 03:44:24 PM
Nick and Mekhi
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 08, 2021, 03:50:45 PM
https://www.facebook.com/Jets/videos/227863898830484/
Nick and Mekhi
Even got it right and called it Taylor Ham. Nice.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 08, 2021, 03:59:45 PM
Fight me.
Post by: Johnny English on January 08, 2021, 05:06:42 PM
https://www.facebook.com/Jets/videos/227863898830484/
Nick and Mekhi
One of my current favourite Jets with one of my previous favourite Jets. Be still my heart.
Post by: Italian Seafood on January 09, 2021, 07:23:58 AM
One of my current favourite Jets with one of my previous favourite Jets. Be still my heart.
It's a shame they didn't play together. Like Bernard King and Patrick Ewing.
Post by: reuben on January 09, 2021, 09:19:07 AM
https://www.facebook.com/Jets/videos/227863898830484/
Nick and Mekhi
Looking svelte these days, good for you Nick.
Post by: mj2sexay on January 09, 2021, 09:28:29 AM
Looking svelte these days, good for you Nick.
All that fat must have went from his derriere to your head
Post by: reuben on January 09, 2021, 09:43:13 AM
All that fat must have went from his derriere to your head
Keep it in the Politics thread.
Post by: mj2sexay on January 09, 2021, 09:47:35 AM
Keep it in the Politics thread, troll boy.
That's fair, except for the troll boy bit.
Post by: MBGreen on January 09, 2021, 09:49:29 AM
That's fair, except for the troll boy bit.You made a funny
Post by: reuben on January 09, 2021, 09:50:50 AM
That's fair, except for the troll boy bit.
Decorous response, I'll retract.
Post by: Laxin on January 09, 2021, 10:51:09 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 14, 2021, 07:50:33 PM
Post by: Johnny English on January 14, 2021, 07:53:49 PM
https://twitter.com/LP_deucedeuce/status/1349767686478323718?s=19
All brave knowing he doesn't have to be in the same locker room as him for another 5 months.
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 14, 2021, 08:13:38 PM
All brave knowing he doesn't have to be in the same locker room as him for another 5 months.
I’d watch it but I’m more interested in a stream of him and Mangold eating sandwiches.
Post by: Badger on February 14, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 16, 2021, 04:22:51 PM
All my homies love PFF
Post by: delavan on February 17, 2021, 08:29:26 AM
All my homies love PFF
PFFT ; )
Post by: Badger on March 07, 2021, 10:39:06 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 07, 2021, 12:32:14 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 25, 2021, 08:31:01 PM
lol 130’s
Post by: delavan on March 25, 2021, 09:44:29 PM
https://twitter.com/fuegojetstakes/status/1375168159351705603?s=21
lol 130’s
don't lock out those knees big man
Post by: bojanglesman on March 28, 2021, 09:58:53 AM
Becton is gonna get this TD this year.
Post by: Badger on March 28, 2021, 11:28:06 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 18, 2021, 08:47:15 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 14, 2021, 03:16:02 PM
Post by: Coach K on May 16, 2021, 09:20:48 AM
https://twitter.com/bigticket73/status/1383842454458179589?s=21Him and AVT are gonna be fun to watch
Post by: bojanglesman on May 16, 2021, 11:04:59 AM
Him and AVT are gonna be fun to watchMount Becton and Avalanche.
/Gaynames
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 25, 2021, 02:19:43 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 25, 2021, 03:17:31 PM
Post by: Badger on May 25, 2021, 04:03:56 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 25, 2021, 08:16:12 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on May 26, 2021, 12:09:44 PM
Mount Becton and Avalanche.
/Gaynames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elJ1tlaMnWc
Post by: MBGreen on June 04, 2021, 10:04:46 AM
@RapSheet
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#Jets LT Mekhi Becton is dealing with plantar fasciitis, which is why coach Robert Saleh told reporters Becton needs to be off his feet. Should be just a few weeks and no surgery, so nothing that impacts training camp.
oof.
Post by: bojanglesman on June 04, 2021, 10:08:15 AM
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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#Jets LT Mekhi Becton is dealing with plantar fasciitis, which is why coach Robert Saleh told reporters Becton needs to be off his feet. Should be just a few weeks and no surgery, so nothing that impacts training camp.
oof.
That excrement is gonna linger all year, bet on it.
Post by: MBGreen on June 04, 2021, 10:08:44 AM
That excrement is gonna linger all year, bet on it.
get that man some fuckin orthotics
EDIT: Now i definitely want to sign Moses as an insurance policy.
Post by: bojanglesman on June 04, 2021, 10:10:45 AM
get that man some fuckin orthotics
EDIT: Now i definitely want to sign Moses as an insurance policy.
He'll get hurt too.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/9on4GSD4Kly00/200.gif)
Post by: bojanglesman on June 04, 2021, 10:13:12 AM
Post by: MBGreen on June 04, 2021, 10:24:03 AM
He'll get hurt too.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/9on4GSD4Kly00/200.gif)
who hurt you?
Post by: bojanglesman on June 04, 2021, 10:35:03 AM
who hurt you?
The Jets
Post by: bojanglesman on June 04, 2021, 10:36:18 AM
Dick making up excrement about insinuating Becton is overweight.
EDIT: I'm wrong
https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1400828647020367874
Post by: MBGreen on June 04, 2021, 10:37:29 AM
The Jets
suck it up, hoo-ha. We're in a new era.
Post by: mj2sexay on June 04, 2021, 11:01:03 AM
Becton will be 420 lbs after sitting out 2 weeks with his Mama's soul food.
If he's not moving he'll get up to that weight just based off genetics.
Mr. Becton the elder is an absolute u-n-i-t.
This does suck though.
Post by: loyaljetsfan on June 04, 2021, 11:38:48 AM
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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#Jets LT Mekhi Becton is dealing with plantar fasciitis, which is why coach Robert Saleh told reporters Becton needs to be off his feet. Should be just a few weeks and no surgery, so nothing that impacts training camp.
oof.
He'll end up missing a total of 8 games throughout the year
Post by: Derek Smalls on June 04, 2021, 12:06:35 PM
Post by: delavan on June 04, 2021, 12:32:16 PM
Get Big Ticket's plantars some CBD oil fast
https://secretnaturecbd.com/blogs/cbd/does-cbd-oil-help-with-plantar-fasciitis
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 05, 2021, 11:59:54 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on June 06, 2021, 05:14:17 AM
plantar fascitis is what I used to get when I ran too much without a warm up. A lacrosse ball and some bananas will solve this problem real quick.
I was also told to freeze a plastic water bottle and roll that around under my arch. I was also able to play through mine.
Obviously what Becton has, must be far more severe an irritation/ailment than what I had, but I would like to think with some of the top athletic trainers in the world they can get that under control
Post by: dcm1602 on June 06, 2021, 07:26:23 AM
I was also told to freeze a plastic water bottle and roll that around under my arch. I was also able to play through mine.
Obviously what Becton has, must be far more severe an irritation/ailment than what I had, but I would like to think with some of the top athletic trainers in the world they can get that under control
On the flip side you also have to keep in mind that Becton is 6'7 365 pounds, and will be matched up against a super human freaks on a regular basis.
So I think the extremes of the circumstances greatly outweigh the extremes of the access to resources. That said it's not unreasonable to think there's a good chance he will be 100% before week 1
Post by: Johnny English on June 06, 2021, 07:56:27 AM
Post by: MexJetinBcn on June 06, 2021, 09:42:49 AM
Post by: Badger on June 15, 2021, 01:14:30 PM
Post by: reuben on June 15, 2021, 02:03:29 PM
https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1404863710712246279?s=19
That's not good.
Post by: dcm1602 on June 15, 2021, 11:00:23 PM
https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1404863710712246279?s=19
https://nypost.com/2021/06/15/jets-mekhi-becton-doing-everything-to-control-his-weight/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
Context
“I feel like I’m at a good weight right now,” Becton said. “I’m doing extra things on my own to keep it that way, eating the right things. I got a chef, doing everything right to maintain my weight, I wouldn’t say problem, but weight concerns that people have with me. I would say I’m doing everything in my power to keep it down.”
Becton made the dubious claim that he doesn’t know what his weight is. That is hard to believe when the Jets have frequent weigh-ins for their players. Becton was listed at 363 pounds last year but admitted before the season to being 370 and was around 380 late last season, drawing discipline from the team.
Post by: reuben on June 15, 2021, 11:27:26 PM
https://nypost.com/2021/06/15/jets-mekhi-becton-doing-everything-to-control-his-weight/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
Context
“I feel like I’m at a good weight right now,” Becton said. “I’m doing extra things on my own to keep it that way, eating the right things. I got a chef, doing everything right to maintain my weight, I wouldn’t say problem, but weight concerns that people have with me. I would say I’m doing everything in my power to keep it down.”
Becton made the dubious claim that he doesn’t know what his weight is. That is hard to believe when the Jets have frequent weigh-ins for their players. Becton was listed at 363 pounds last year but admitted before the season to being 370 and was around 380 late last season, drawing discipline from the team.
excrement, I never knew that. Not great.
Post by: dcm1602 on June 15, 2021, 11:38:49 PM
excrement, I never knew that. Not great.
Probably worse that his ideal playing weight (per him) is 350 pounds
Post by: bojanglesman on June 16, 2021, 06:33:11 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on June 16, 2021, 08:33:59 AM
Starve him during the week and tell him he can hit the soul food buffet after the game Sunday if he dominates.
Breaking: 24 year old franchise tackle retires due to Coronary Artery Disease
Post by: d sw0rdz on June 16, 2021, 08:47:37 AM
Breaking: 24 year old franchise tackle retires due to Coronary Artery Disease
dont you dare
Post by: mj2sexay on June 16, 2021, 08:56:20 AM
If its not health problems, its money. It's always something.
Post by: MBGreen on June 16, 2021, 09:08:18 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on June 16, 2021, 09:28:27 AM
Becton will be fine. He hired a personal chef, all he's eating is veggies and fish.He'll be eating Poutine and Chef Boyardee by August.
Post by: MBGreen on June 16, 2021, 09:34:40 AM
He'll be eating Poutine and Chef Boyardee by August.
that's the tailgate menu
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 16, 2021, 12:06:50 PM
It's one of those things that only actually goes away with rest, and while it's possible to play through it you will inevitably end up favouring it and putting additional stress on other parts of your body as you subconsciously compensate. This makes other, potentially more serious injuries more likely.
This is correct. It only gets worse if you play through it.
Post by: delavan on June 16, 2021, 01:04:42 PM
kidding (sort of)
Post by: Derek Smalls on June 16, 2021, 02:01:37 PM
Glad he has a chef.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 22, 2021, 05:42:10 AM
Gone
Post by: d sw0rdz on June 22, 2021, 01:51:05 PM
https://twitter.com/00jets/status/1407129266991648770?s=21
Gone
more elite kick game lol???
pretty sure he is wearing shattered backboard jordan 1's there, to play softball
Post by: delavan on June 22, 2021, 05:06:04 PM
https://twitter.com/00jets/status/1407129266991648770?s=21
Gone
The Bigger Hurt
Post by: Johnny English on June 22, 2021, 05:16:07 PM
Post by: delavan on June 22, 2021, 05:46:06 PM
https://twitter.com/00jets/status/1407129266991648770?s=21
Gone
He was jammed - F7
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 27, 2021, 10:06:19 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on June 27, 2021, 10:22:23 AM
https://twitter.com/bigticket73/status/1409165140273008643?s=21Haha.
Post by: AlioTheFool on June 27, 2021, 11:29:19 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on June 27, 2021, 12:15:14 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 28, 2021, 08:24:13 PM
Get fucked Cimini
Post by: bojanglesman on June 28, 2021, 08:28:12 PM
https://twitter.com/bigduke50/status/1409623181346983936?s=21That pic is from 4th grade.
Get fucked Cimini
Post by: dcm1602 on June 28, 2021, 08:36:19 PM
https://twitter.com/bigduke50/status/1409623181346983936?s=21
Get fucked Cimini
I don't get it
Post by: bojanglesman on June 28, 2021, 08:38:40 PM
I don't get itDoes Becton look fat and out of shape in this pic?
Post by: dcm1602 on June 28, 2021, 08:42:59 PM
Does Becton look fat and out of shape in this pic?
Can you tell what kind of shape a man is by seeing from his elbow to his fingertips + his calves?
(in a single picture none the less)
Post by: bojanglesman on June 28, 2021, 08:45:19 PM
Can you tell what kind of shape a man is by seeing from his elbow to his fingertips + his calves?I can tell you that unless that pic is photoshopped, there's no way he's pushing 370 lbs or whatever they said he was. He looks good. Puck would bang him.
(in a single picture none the less)
Post by: dcm1602 on June 28, 2021, 08:59:35 PM
I can tell you that unless that pic is photoshopped, there's no way he's pushing 370 lbs or whatever they said he was. He looks good. Puck would bang him.
Well for context this is him at 365 pounds
(https://bostonglobe-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/ljeB4GzsbeI6QlBTotlbNeL5DwY=/1440x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-bostonglobe.s3.amazonaws.com/public/NINXLZS2SYI6VOS4EUBQ3NKZXA.jpg)
But the dudes obviously a jacked elite athlete
So even if he's 345 pounds or 390 pounds he's still going to look a a mammoth jacked freaking athlete.
I just think it's going to be near impossible to tell from a single picture.
Plus didn't Saleh suggest Becton has some work to do on staying in shape/with his weight?
Post by: reuben on June 28, 2021, 10:33:35 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4-92poXIAkEasn?format=jpg&name=large)
Post by: ons on July 03, 2021, 12:14:30 PM
https://twitter.com/bigduke50/status/1409623181346983936?s=21
Get fucked Cimini
https://twitter.com/BigTicket73/status/1411360619366916096
It sucks that he can't walk though
Post by: Libero_2 on July 03, 2021, 03:12:57 PM
https://twitter.com/BigTicket73/status/1411360619366916096
It sucks that he can't walk though
It is absurd that he is between 350-380 pounds and looks like he's barely got a belly on him. That human is just freaking gigantic. I'm glad he's ours, I just really want him to fulfill his potential and become one of the most dominant to ever do it.
Post by: bojanglesman on July 03, 2021, 03:14:10 PM
It is absurd that he is between 350-380 pounds and looks like he's barely got a belly on him. That human is just freaking gigantic. I'm glad he's ours, I just really want him to fulfill his potential and become one of the most dominant to ever do it.He has tiny calves for a wildebeest.
Post by: Andrew Ryan on July 03, 2021, 06:07:00 PM
He has tiny calves for a wildebeest.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/UnkemptTintedCrocodile-max-1mb.gif)
Post by: ons on July 10, 2021, 11:00:56 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/99pnYEJ.jpeg)
Post by: Libero_2 on July 10, 2021, 08:37:53 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on August 01, 2021, 11:26:40 AM
Goddamn that dude is a mountain.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210801/93378432d2a50cfc06529e2e01a88549.jpg)
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 01, 2021, 12:52:37 PM
https://twitter.com/JetsOpinion/status/1421846490977292293?s=19
Goddamn that dude is a mountain.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210801/93378432d2a50cfc06529e2e01a88549.jpg)
See: thread title.
Post by: loyaljetsfan on August 16, 2021, 02:39:21 PM
Quote
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/giants-azeez-ojulari-breaks-down-145509937.html
Dude makes one play and he's the second coming of LT and Becton is a bum.
Peeps gotta calm da fuq down
Post by: reuben on August 16, 2021, 03:44:16 PM
Dude makes one play and he's the second coming of LT and Becton is a bum.
Peeps gotta calm da fuq down
I dunno, I'm looking at Feeney and Van Rotten being freaking useless in that play as more significant problems.
We need AVT to come back and stay back. Still out today, still day-to-day. He really needs these reps if the line is going to start gelling before December.
Post by: MBGreen on August 16, 2021, 03:51:04 PM
I dunno, I'm looking at Feeney and Van Rotten being freaking useless in that play as more significant problems.
We need AVT to come back and stay back. Still out today, still day-to-day. He really needs these reps if the line is going to start gelling before December.
(https://i.redd.it/vgb43qzpl8h31.jpg)
Post by: Heismanberg on August 16, 2021, 04:00:26 PM
Imagine getting excited because an edge player made a play against an outside zone team. It's bitch behavior.
The Giants didn't draft Ojulari to make TFLs against the run...
Post by: Heismanberg on August 16, 2021, 04:02:55 PM
I dunno, I'm looking at Feeney and Van Rotten being freaking useless in that play as more significant problems.
GVR did his job on that play.
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 16, 2021, 04:37:10 PM
GVR did his job on that play.People seem to be expecting pancakes on every play. As long as you get in front of your man and prevent him from getting to the quarterback/ballcarrier/create a hole, you've done your job.
Becton didn't do his job on that play. It happens. Good play by Ojulari.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 17, 2021, 10:37:19 AM
Gained 4+ yards on 4/5 carries to the left
- Nania
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 17, 2021, 10:39:23 AM
The #Jets averaged 5.2 YPC on runs to Mekhi Becton's left side over the first two drives
Gained 4+ yards on 4/5 carries to the left
- Nania
These are similar numbers to his rookie season, right?
Post by: Libero_2 on August 17, 2021, 11:32:12 AM
The #Jets averaged 5.2 YPC on runs to Mekhi Becton's left side over the first two drives
Gained 4+ yards on 4/5 carries to the left
- Nania
I don’t care about this stat today. I will care about this stat once AVT is next to him and they compete against NFL starters. If they hold up then or even improve upon it, that’s a sign of a whole lot of fun we are going to have this year.
Post by: loyaljetsfan on August 19, 2021, 02:05:21 PM
Cimini Headline: LaFleur doesn't believe in Becton
Post by: insanity on March 01, 2022, 10:33:31 PM
Check out his story
https://www.instagram.com/big.ticket73/
Post by: Badger on March 02, 2022, 06:01:53 AM
Becton big mad.Prove them wrong, king.
Check out his story
https://www.instagram.com/big.ticket73/
Post by: insanity on March 02, 2022, 06:16:14 AM
Prove them wrong, king.It's funny because Alex Leatherwood is doing the same workouts with many weather (you can see it on dukes story) and compared to leatherwood,, becton does look fat, lazy, and uncoordinated
Post by: Badger on March 02, 2022, 06:17:54 AM
It's funny because Alex Leatherwood is doing the same workouts with many weather (you can see it on dukes story) and compared to leatherwood,, becton does look fat, lazy, and uncoordinatedPlease send our big man this motivational material.
Post by: bojanglesman on March 02, 2022, 06:27:37 AM
Post by: MBGreen on March 02, 2022, 06:31:17 AM
Maybe he's planning to eat himself so wide that no one can get around him.
like his dad
Post by: insanity on March 03, 2022, 10:37:52 PM
Please send our big man this motivational material.Please don't eat me
Post by: MBGreen on April 05, 2022, 09:59:29 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 05, 2022, 10:40:23 AM
https://twitter.com/OptimisticJets/status/1511342640045903876?s=20&t=Kd7Xznad4QEv_TLIu9WWPQ
Is that good? I don't know, not a weight lifter.
Post by: dcm1602 on April 05, 2022, 10:52:49 AM
Is that good? I don't know, not a weight lifter.
It's worthless without context, the dude is probably in the middle of a 2 hour gym session, this is a 5 second clip, who the freak knows what he's done before and or is doing after
He's almost 400 pounds, plus a floor press is a niche exercise. Its not an impressive number, he's not a bodybuilder, and it's almost certainly not his max so literally everything above is worthless anyway.
From what I briefly Googled the average OL can bench 450 (which means a floor press of 400 would also be fairly average for an OL) and Becton is both younger and bigger than most. So I don't think it's unreasonable to assume he can probably bench in the high 500s and probably can floor press at least 100 more than be is in this video.
In other words it's good to see he's at the gym, but far more important than how much he can floor press is what the number says when he steps on a scale
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 05, 2022, 10:57:38 AM
It's worthless without context
You really don't need a branded catchphrase.
Post by: MexJetinBcn on April 06, 2022, 01:10:45 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 06, 2022, 02:31:14 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on April 06, 2022, 04:11:17 PM
It's no small feat. He's benching from the ground, not on a bench. Much harder.
Harder yes, much harder no
Your floor press should be 80-90% of your bench
And an "average" young adult males bench press should be equal to their body weight
Post by: insanity on April 06, 2022, 04:26:43 PM
It's no small feat. He's benching from the ground, not on a bench. Much harder.Not that it really matters, but Becton grabbed this from Duke Manyweather's IG stories.
Many of the people he trains with were able to do 425. Some put up 435.
Post by: delavan on April 07, 2022, 09:54:17 AM
Floor: better for triceps which assist in better lockouts
get/STAY healthy big man
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 07, 2022, 10:03:33 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 07, 2022, 10:06:13 AM
Not that it really matters, but Becton grabbed this from Duke Manyweather's IG stories.
Many of the people he trains with were able to do 425. Some put up 435.
Confirmed bust
Post by: Badger on April 07, 2022, 11:48:23 AM
Anyone else want to weigh in on what an NFL caliber player's workout should be?He can up his protein intake with an Arby's sponsorship.
Post by: insanity on April 07, 2022, 02:08:35 PM
Confirmed bustNice one! ;)
Post by: MBGreen on April 07, 2022, 02:14:28 PM
He can up his protein intake with an Arby's sponsorship.
LFG
Post by: dcm1602 on April 07, 2022, 03:04:23 PM
Anyone else want to weigh in on what an NFL caliber player's workout should be?
Nobody has done this
Post by: insanity on April 09, 2022, 08:27:46 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcGmxunOlgX/
Do with it what you may...
Post by: bojanglesman on April 09, 2022, 08:54:49 AM
I'm just going to leave this here...Not on Instagram, can't see it.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcGmxunOlgX/
Do with it what you may...
Post by: reuben on April 09, 2022, 08:57:45 AM
Not on Instagram, can't see it.
Am on Instagram, can't unsee it.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 09, 2022, 09:24:53 AM
Post by: Libero_2 on April 09, 2022, 10:33:18 AM
Hopefully the kid on the way refocuses Becton on his career
Post by: delavan on April 09, 2022, 02:19:33 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Zeigerwaage_Ladenwaage_Supermarket_weighing_scales_1970_Handelswaage_01.jpg/320px-Zeigerwaage_Ladenwaage_Supermarket_weighing_scales_1970_Handelswaage_01.jpg)
Post by: reuben on April 09, 2022, 02:25:41 PM
What's the over/under on Mehki Jr.?
40 weeks. Take the over.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 09, 2022, 02:39:37 PM
What's the over/under on Mehki Jr.?30 lbs, 2 months early
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Zeigerwaage_Ladenwaage_Supermarket_weighing_scales_1970_Handelswaage_01.jpg/320px-Zeigerwaage_Ladenwaage_Supermarket_weighing_scales_1970_Handelswaage_01.jpg)
Post by: insanity on April 11, 2022, 08:31:26 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/BigDuke50/status/1512862947932057602?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1512862947932057602%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fjetswire.usatoday.com%2F2022%2F04%2F11%2Fnew-york-jets-mekhi-becton-trainer-disputes-timetable-knee-injury%2F
Post by: dcm1602 on April 12, 2022, 05:47:31 AM
The freak?
Post by: dcm1602 on April 17, 2022, 08:06:44 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 17, 2022, 08:26:46 AM
Apparently some (lesser known) beat writers have speculated about the Jets trading Becton for a 2nd and going LT
Please post sources.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 17, 2022, 10:14:25 AM
Please post sources.Prolly some stupid Jets mock from a guy in their basement that podcasts because he's unemployed.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 17, 2022, 11:37:14 AM
Post by: MBGreen on April 17, 2022, 11:40:10 AM
dcm called Joe Caporoso a “beat writer”
maybe i'm a beat writer too
Post by: Badger on April 17, 2022, 12:19:36 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 17, 2022, 12:20:15 PM
Post by: MBGreen on April 21, 2022, 10:34:24 AM
@Connor_J_Hughes
·
1m
Mekhi Becton is NOT here at 1 #Jets Drive, Joe Douglas says.
He chose not to attend voluntary workouts.
Post by: reuben on April 21, 2022, 10:38:36 AM
Post by: Jumbo on April 21, 2022, 11:01:30 AM
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
·
1m
Mekhi Becton is NOT here at 1 #Jets Drive, Joe Douglas says.
He chose not to attend voluntary workouts.
he's busy at the golden corral
Post by: bojanglesman on April 21, 2022, 11:22:16 AM
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 21, 2022, 11:23:37 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 21, 2022, 11:26:14 AM
It might be nothing, it might be something, but if the Jets were leaning towards moving on from him, this doesn't help his cause.
I have no insider info on Little Ticket's due date, but if its pretty soon, I don't blame the man. Plus, he's working out, not eating Cheetos (I think). Would be different if they were doing work on the field. That being said, might have been a good gesture for Douglas to say that instead of being so vague.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 21, 2022, 12:59:16 PM
False flag imo, Soros or Alex Jones tbd
Post by: Heismanberg on April 21, 2022, 01:01:17 PM
It might be nothing, it might be something
It definitely nothing. His wife is due any day now.
Connor Hughes jumping the gun as usual. The need to be first really hurt journalism.
Post by: dcm1602 on April 21, 2022, 01:40:07 PM
It definitely nothing. His wife is due any day now.
Connor Hughes jumping the gun as usual. The need to be first really hurt journalism.
Yeah it was reported she was 20 weeks on Christmas
Which would put her anytime between now and the next 3 weeks.
The clickbait title certainly makes people want to excrement on Becton, but I'll give him credit as being innocent here
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 21, 2022, 05:17:41 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on April 21, 2022, 08:31:00 PM
As I said in the LOLGianta thread, the key word is voluntary.
Nobody likes to see a struggling prime draft pick skipping voluntary team activities.
Of course in this case no reasonable person could bitch about a dude wanting to be near his wife expected to deliver any day, especially when he's rehabbing with his trainer anyway.
If Becton is skipping voluntary activities in say June/July, that's a different story
Post by: insanity on April 22, 2022, 07:57:23 AM
It definitely nothing. His wife is due any day now.He jumped the gun by making an objective statement...
Connor Hughes jumping the gun as usual. The need to be first really hurt journalism.
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 22, 2022, 08:42:55 AM
He jumped the gun by making an objective statement...
look at the verbage hughes uses here and tell me he's just trying to make an objective statement and not trying to be a drama-stirring media whore
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
·
1m
Mekhi Becton is NOT here at 1 #Jets Drive, Joe Douglas says.
He chose not to attend voluntary workouts.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 22, 2022, 11:18:08 AM
He jumped the gun by making an objective statement...
https://twitter.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1517169414235373569?s=21&t=mnqmjbqRRpqFbKONZXoM7A
I get that you probably enjoy his MCU rankings but c’mon
Post by: Badger on April 22, 2022, 11:46:13 AM
Post by: insanity on April 22, 2022, 11:49:29 AM
https://twitter.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1517169414235373569?s=21&t=mnqmjbqRRpqFbKONZXoM7ADidn't see that. I'm not in twitter all I see is what people post.
I get that you probably enjoy his MCU rankings but c’mon
Definitely not good reporting
Post by: bojanglesman on April 22, 2022, 12:24:53 PM
Didn't see that. I'm not in twitter all I see is white people post.
Definitely not good reporting
Fyp. Racist
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 22, 2022, 12:25:02 PM
Post by: IATA on April 25, 2022, 08:47:11 PM
well tahts not ideal
Post by: Libero_2 on April 25, 2022, 08:49:28 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 25, 2022, 08:50:19 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/ubxquy/the_athletic_dane_bruegler_we_dont_talk_enough/
well tahts not ideal
If we draft Ekwonu or Neal at 4, he’s gone for a Day 2 pick
Hope it doesn’t happen but they don’t pick at OT at 4 unless Becton is moved
Post by: Jumbo on April 25, 2022, 10:48:33 PM
Post by: Laxin on April 25, 2022, 11:04:24 PM
There's a ton of smoke around us moving Becton, and also the team being extremely unhappy with his work ethic. He was drafted under a prior regime. Not very hard to imagine us taking Ekwonu at 4 (especially if the top 2/3 EDGEs are gone) and dealing him at this point.
Although the CS is different, Douglas still drafted Becton. It would be a big pill to swallow to trade the OT you drafted in the top 10 after just two years. Definitely not a great look.
Post by: dcm1602 on April 26, 2022, 12:14:55 AM
Although the CS is different, Douglas still drafted Becton. It would be a big pill to swallow to trade the OT you drafted in the top 10 after just two years. Definitely not a great look.
On the flip side Douglas believes in building from the trenches, and just made a franchise altering investment in Zach Wilson.
If he legit believes Becton isn't the guy, it's the move to make. Of course we have Fant on the roster who was more than serviceable at LT. So to me upgrading Becton is an unnecessary luxury since you already have a hedge on the roster.
But if there's absolutely nobody else on the board at 4 and you can't trade out, why not
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 26, 2022, 06:54:32 AM
Post by: MBGreen on April 26, 2022, 07:32:18 AM
Thursday will be fun.
SO WILL FRIDAY YEEEEEEEEAAAAHHHHHAAARARRRRR!!!!
Post by: Gorilla on April 26, 2022, 07:40:46 AM
Although the CS is different, Douglas still drafted Becton. It would be a big pill to swallow to trade the OT you drafted in the top 10 after just two years. Definitely not a great look.
I'll say.
That 2020 class would approach Maccagnan-levels of bad.
Post by: Badger on April 26, 2022, 09:45:35 AM
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 26, 2022, 11:42:26 AM
"I'm hearing people around the league saying they don't think Becton will remain with the Jets" is pretty thin smoke. That's just secondhand opinions of people from other teams.That's literally everything this time of year. Could be something. Could be nothing. DJ literally had an article today about how the Jets probably won't pass on Ekwonu at 4.
It's easy to say every NFL writer doesn't know anything, but neither do we, and they are more plugged in than us. Doesn't mean they're right, but multiple people have said Ekwonu is a legitimate option, and multiple people have said the Jets aren't pleased with Becton.
Post by: Jumbo on April 26, 2022, 03:13:53 PM
That's literally everything this time of year. Could be something. Could be nothing. DJ literally had an article today about how the Jets probably won't pass on Ekwonu at 4.
It's easy to say every NFL writer doesn't know anything, but neither do we, and they are more plugged in than us. Doesn't mean they're right, but multiple people have said Ekwonu is a legitimate option, and multiple people have said the Jets aren't pleased with Becton.
There is a ton of smoke about Jets coaching staff/some players having an issue with Becton's work ethic. We're approaching "Jamal doesn't really want a trade out of here" territory
Post by: reuben on April 26, 2022, 03:21:08 PM
If we draft Ekwonu or Neal at 4, he’s gone for a Day 2 pick
Been thinking about this: I doubt it.
Nobody is going to want to give up a 2nd/3rd rounder (that we will immediately cash in) without knowing he's fully healthy first. If we deal him, it's going to be contingent on Mekhi passing a physical, so I doubt it will be for 2022 draft currency.
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 26, 2022, 03:24:08 PM
Been thinking about this: I doubt it.Yeah, the more I thought about it, the more I agree. Probably a 3rd in 2023 that can move to a 2nd.
Nobody is going to want to give up a 2nd/3rd rounder (that we will immediately cash in) without knowing he's fully healthy first. If we deal him, it's going to be contingent on Mekhi passing a physical, so I doubt it will be for 2022 draft currency.
Post by: Johnny English on April 26, 2022, 04:17:31 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 26, 2022, 04:20:53 PM
I don't think it's at all silly to think that we might draft a tackle and not trade Becton immediately. If he gets his excrement together and we've drafted an elite rookie, we're set at the position for years to come and can let a 30 year old Fant walk to FA next spring.
Who sits? If we take a lineman 4th overall and he rides the bench, how does that help us in 2022?
We can potentially get an offensive lineman like Tyler Smith or Nic Petit-Frere outside of the first to replace Fant/Becton in 2023.
Charles Cross is by far the best scheme fit for us. He isn't worth in the 4th pick. We need to take an immediate starter at 4. Cross at 10 or in a trade back would be something to consider.
Post by: Johnny English on April 26, 2022, 04:25:44 PM
Who sits? If we take a lineman 4th overall and he rides the bench, how does that help us in 2022?
We can potentially get an offensive lineman like Tyler Smith or Nic Petit-Frere outside of the first to replace Fant/Becton in 2023.
Charles Cross is by far the best scheme fit for us. He isn't worth in the 4th pick. We need to take an immediate starter at 4. Cross at 10 or in a trade back would be something to consider.
Probably Fant sits. He's good but he's not elite.
I take your point about the 4th pick needing to help immediately, but if we don't take a tackle and then Becton flames out we've got a problem. Having three starting caliber tackles sounds like a much better problem to have than having one. I also accept the argument that we can take a slightly more developmental player at the position later on, you know the draft prospects better than me. I'm just saying that I don't think drafting a tackle means Becton gets traded, because Fant feels like a good quality stopgap more than a cornerstone of the franchise.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 26, 2022, 04:27:28 PM
I take your point about the 4th pick needing to help immediately, but if we don't take a tackle and then Becton flames out we've got a problem.
We have other picks. 35, 38, and even 69 are reasonable spots to land a developmental tackle prospect.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 26, 2022, 04:28:14 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 26, 2022, 04:56:13 PM
An OT at 4 means Becton is gone. It's possible the Jets hang on to Becton closer to the season to let him prove his health and then trade him or Fant later once some team's OT gets hurt in cap. But it makes no sense to take an OT and keep Fant and Becton into the season.
There has been a ton of draft steam towards Charles Cross recently. He's been one of the biggest risers in the betting markets, where he's favored to go in the top 6 now. I hadn't considered him with the Jets, but I also hadn't really thought that much about Cross.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 26, 2022, 04:58:38 PM
An OT at 4 means Becton is gone.
It means that one of our 2021 tackles is gone, most likely Becton. We could get an immediate mid-round pick for Fant but I think the coaching staff trusts Fant.
Post by: MBGreen on April 26, 2022, 05:00:49 PM
It means that one of our 2021 tackles is gone, most likely Becton. We could get an immediate mid-round pick for Fant but I think the coaching staff trusts Fant.
Saleh has history with Fant in Seattle. Becton would be on the outs.
Post by: dcm1602 on April 26, 2022, 05:07:49 PM
Been thinking about this: I doubt it.
Nobody is going to want to give up a 2nd/3rd rounder (that we will immediately cash in) without knowing he's fully healthy first. If we deal him, it's going to be contingent on Mekhi passing a physical, so I doubt it will be for 2022 draft currency.
He's on a cost controlled 1st round rookie contract
Teams absolutely would be willing to give a 3rd for him without meeting him, likely even a second no questions asked.
Nobody thinks he suffered a career ending injury.
I think there's just concerns about his work ethic, combined with his weight and risk of injuries.
With 2 years left on his rookie deal and a 5th year option I'd say a 2nd round pick is low risk for any team sniffing near him
Post by: dcm1602 on April 26, 2022, 05:09:02 PM
Though obviously most of us would be happy in hindsight if we end up drafting an allpro tackle at 4
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 26, 2022, 05:09:11 PM
Saleh has history with Fant in Seattle. Becton would be on the outs.
yeah, I'm sure that would be the deciding factor.
Post by: MBGreen on April 26, 2022, 05:13:49 PM
yeah, I'm sure that would be the deciding factor.
when it comes down to trust....yes
Post by: dcm1602 on April 26, 2022, 05:20:55 PM
Playing against him as DC for the 49ers?
This makes no freaking sense
Post by: Johnny English on April 26, 2022, 05:27:24 PM
Saleh has history with Fant in Seattle. Becton would be on the outs.
Saleh left Seattle three years before Fant signed with them.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 26, 2022, 05:27:39 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 26, 2022, 05:28:32 PM
Put differently, how many people on here would be happy if we traded Becton for a 2nd and went tackle at 4? Not manyI don't think that's the way to look at it.
Though obviously most of us would be happy in hindsight if we end up drafting an allpro tackle at 4
The most important thing in the organization is to protect Zach Wilson. If the Jets do not think that Mekhi Becton can properly do that, then we need to bring in someone who can. If we're spending a Day 2 pick on Becton insurance, that's not a good use of resources either, and that might be what we would need to do if they don't trust Becton. None of us know how much we should trust Becton.
If the Jets pass on OT at 4 and 10, then we will have some confidence the Jets trust Mekhi Becton. We know Douglas is willing to invest in the offensive line, so this is one area I trust him to do the right thing.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 26, 2022, 05:30:39 PM
Post by: MBGreen on April 26, 2022, 05:43:53 PM
Saleh left Seattle three years before Fant signed with them.Maybe he lived in Saleh's attic
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 26, 2022, 05:45:10 PM
What sign has there been that Becton hasn't done everything he needed to this off-season?DJ Bien-Aime saying the Jets want Ekwonu.
Connor Rogers has said the Jets want Ekwonu.
Dane Brugler just said there are plenty of people around the league that think Becton is gone.
Connor Hughes has been negative about Becton.
Tony Pauline has said the Jets are down on Becton.
If you want to rip any of those sources individually, that's fine. But that's a lot of people saying these things. Maybe they're all wrong. Maybe there is something to it, but they can fix it. But that's a lot of people reporting similar things.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 26, 2022, 05:52:11 PM
DJ Bien-Aime saying the Jets want Ekwonu.I'd like to rip all of those sources.
Connor Rogers has said the Jets want Ekwonu.
Dane Brugler just said there are plenty of people around the league that think Becton is gone.
Connor Hughes has been negative about Becton.
Tony Pauline has said the Jets are down on Becton.
If you want to rip any of those sources individually, that's fine. But that's a lot of people saying these things. Maybe they're all wrong. Maybe there is something to it, but they can fix it. But that's a lot of people reporting similar things.
But that's not what I asked. There's always rumors. He seems to be in shape, working out. Front office says they are in contact with him. Obviously that doesn't mean things can't happen, but I try to think of the most logical outcome. To me, that's him staying and playing. The guy had an injury that was not his fault. When he played, he was good. I think it's very early for a GM to give up on him.
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 26, 2022, 05:56:34 PM
when it comes down to trust....yes
He played against Fant how many times? I'm pretty sure his experience with Fant as a Jet is much more consequential.
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Wait, you thought they were there at the same time?! LMAOOOOO
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 26, 2022, 05:57:38 PM
He played against Fant how many times? I'm pretty sure his experience with Fant as a Jet is much more consequential.Nah, everyone knows coaches and players build the best relationships when they coach on opposite sides of the ball for different teams.
Post by: MBGreen on April 26, 2022, 05:59:24 PM
He played against Fant how many times? I'm pretty sure his experience with Fant as a Jet is much more consequential.I thought of.....boobs
Edit:
Wait, you thought they were there at the same time?! LMAOOOOO
Post by: MBGreen on April 26, 2022, 06:00:29 PM
Nah, everyone knows coaches and players build the best relationships when they coach on opposite sides of the ball for different teams.That's how you build trust, bowlcut.
Post by: Jumbo on April 26, 2022, 06:09:23 PM
I'd like to rip all of those sources.
But that's not what I asked. There's always rumors. He seems to be in shape, working out. Front office says they are in contact with him. Obviously that doesn't mean things can't happen, but I try to think of the most logical outcome. To me, that's him staying and playing. The guy had an injury that was not his fault. When he played, he was good. I think it's very early for a GM to give up on him.
If they want to trade him and get good value, they're not gonna come out and start leaking "yeah he's sloppy fatz and doesn't care"
Post by: bojanglesman on April 26, 2022, 06:11:33 PM
If they want to trade him and get good value, they're not gonna come out and start leaking "yeah he's sloppy fatz and doesn't care"They aren't going to say that under any circumstance.
Post by: MBGreen on April 26, 2022, 06:11:33 PM
They're all out of the loop.
Post by: Badger on April 26, 2022, 06:15:02 PM
If we're spending a Day 2 pick on Becton insurance, that's not a good use of resources either,
Compared to using #4 as insurance (or premature replacement) it's a great move.
Post by: Badger on April 26, 2022, 06:16:06 PM
I thought of.....boobs"I was watching Morbius"
Post by: MBGreen on April 26, 2022, 06:19:01 PM
"I was watching Morbius"Moobs
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 26, 2022, 06:24:23 PM
Until your franchise QB gets killed because you're relying on a 3rd-round pick or Conor McDermott to protect him.
Compared to using #4 as insurance (or premature replacement) it's a great move.
If Joe Douglas moves on from Becton, that says all you need to know. Joe Douglas drafted Becton. Trading him is admitting failure. The only way he would do that is he truly thinks it's a failure. The good news is people would just blame Gase for the pick, like we've done for the rest of the 2020 draft.
Post by: Badger on April 26, 2022, 06:32:05 PM
Until your franchise QB gets killed because you're relying on a 3rd-round pick or Conor McDermott to protect him.
No reason this same disaster scenario can't occur on a team minus Becton plus Ekwonu. All it takes is 1 starting tackle going down.
Post by: Johnny English on April 26, 2022, 06:38:33 PM
No reason this same disaster scenario can't occur on a team minus Becton plus Ekwonu. All it takes is 1 starting tackle going down.
Which returns neatly to my original point, which is that trusting to any two of a rookie, an underperforming high pick with questions, and a 2 year starter who turns 30 before next season and has a year left on his contract, seems like a very risky strategy.
Everyone resents paying for comprehensive insurance and wonders what else they could do with the money that would be more fun, right up to the point where they get T-boned at a light.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 26, 2022, 07:13:52 PM
MoobsMoobius would be a good comedy. A vampire with bitch funbags.
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Post by: dcm1602 on April 26, 2022, 08:06:25 PM
I don't think that's the way to look at it.
The most important thing in the organization is to protect Zach Wilson. If the Jets do not think that Mekhi Becton can properly do that, then we need to bring in someone who can. If we're spending a Day 2 pick on Becton insurance, that's not a good use of resources either, and that might be what we would need to do if they don't trust Becton. None of us know how much we should trust Becton.
If the Jets pass on OT at 4 and 10, then we will have some confidence the Jets trust Mekhi Becton. We know Douglas is willing to invest in the offensive line, so this is one area I trust him to do the right thing.
Sure it is
The Jets can draft a right tackle.
Then we have Fant who is capable of being our starting left and right tackle, Becton capable of being our left, and a rookie who can be our right.
Fant playing both sides gives us tremendous flexibility. We can easily hedge on Becton by drafting a fight tackle, and having them sit behind Fant for a year.
And of course we could always extend Fant if things head that direction too
Post by: delavan on April 26, 2022, 08:20:25 PM
Post by: MBGreen on April 26, 2022, 08:21:07 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on April 26, 2022, 09:14:31 PM
Would we trade either Bryce Hall or Bandon Echols if we drafted Sauce/Stingley? If so, what could we get and would it be a move we would like?
With a top 10 drafted CB that guy is starting. With the money we paid Reed, he is starting. The staff loved MC2, and I don't think Hall or Echols are good fits in the slot anyways. One of the two would be our #4 and the other our #5. Why not trade one for a mid round pick to upgrade another position, and keep the other as solid depth? Just a thought....
Post by: bojanglesman on April 26, 2022, 09:15:37 PM
All this conversation about potentially trading Becton if we draft Ekwonu has me curious...Echols should not affect any decision at all. He's a backup.
Would we trade either Bryce Hall or Bandon Echols if we drafted Sauce/Stingley? If so, what could we get and would it be a move we would like?
With a top 10 drafted CB that guy is starting. With the money we paid Reed, he is starting. The staff loved MC2, and I don't think Hall or Echols are good fits in the slot anyways. One of the two would be our #4 and the other our #5. Why not trade one for a mid round pick to upgrade another position, and keep the other as solid depth? Just a thought....
Post by: Libero_2 on April 26, 2022, 09:17:08 PM
Echols should not affect any decision at all. He's a backup.
Hes a 6th round rookie who showed promise as a potential starter. Some team would take a mid round flyer on that IMO.
I'm not suggesting we DONT draft Sauce, because Echols/Hall just kicking out the idea that if we did draft him, we probably should move one of the two for a draft pick to build depth elsewhere.
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 26, 2022, 09:40:24 PM
if we're to move on from becton, it may be sensible to do so before the draft or on draft night, before we remove our leverage by drafting another LT
the only way we seemingly maintain value with becton to other teams is if we draft an LT but still play becton anyways, and then he plays well. but in this scenario you're using the 4th overall pick on a player who'd ride the bench this year anyways, and if becton is playing well then ideally you keep him
Post by: Badger on April 26, 2022, 09:42:21 PM
Which returns neatly to my original point, which is that trusting to any two of a rookie, an underperforming high pick with questions, and a 2 year starter who turns 30 before next season and has a year left on his contract, seems like a very risky strategy.
Everyone resents paying for comprehensive insurance and wonders what else they could do with the money that would be more fun, right up to the point where they get T-boned at a light.
Using #4 on a 3rd tackle would be akin to paying more for insurance than you do for your mortgage. Poor use of resources.
Waiting and seeing who's around on day 2 avoids the dilemma of redshirting or prematurely moving on from a starter quality player.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 26, 2022, 10:51:07 PM
DJ Bien-Aime saying the Jets want Ekwonu.
Connor Rogers has said the Jets want Ekwonu.
Dane Brugler just said there are plenty of people around the league that think Becton is gone.
Connor Hughes has been negative about Becton.
Tony Pauline has said the Jets are down on Becton.
If you want to rip any of those sources individually, that's fine. But that's a lot of people saying these things. Maybe they're all wrong. Maybe there is something to it, but they can fix it. But that's a lot of people reporting similar things.
Rogers is the only one that knows football and he really just states his opinions. He admits he doesn’t have any kind of sources. Ekwonu is his top player so he’s hyping him up as much as possible. He’s setting himself up for views and content.
DJ Bien-Aime has never set foot in the Jets locker room. He has no sources. He’s an illiterate lady garden that lucked into a job that no one wanted after the Manish/McDonald debacle.
NFL and NFL Draft writers for The Athletic are garbage.
Post by: insanity on April 26, 2022, 11:37:48 PM
Hes a 6th round rookie who showed promise as a potential starter. Some team would take a mid round flyer on that IMO.Take off the jade tinted lenses
Post by: dcm1602 on April 27, 2022, 01:26:28 AM
i think we're all underestimating just how much the optics of drafting a tackle at 4 and giving up on your 2 year (one year) high-pick tackle in becton could nuke his value to other teams
if we're to move on from becton, it may be sensible to do so before the draft or on draft night, before we remove our leverage by drafting another LT
the only way we seemingly maintain value with becton to other teams is if we draft an LT but still play becton anyways, and then he plays well. but in this scenario you're using the 4th overall pick on a player who'd ride the bench this year anyways, and if becton is playing well then ideally you keep him
No this is silly
Because the optics of trading your LT, then having the top LT go off the board before you pick and your team being fucked is much much worse optics.
If we were able to get a 1st for Becton sure but that's not happening. So why the freak would we suddenly create a scenario where teams know they need to trade up to 3 to draft a LT ahead of us.
So the Jets are in the position of being able to listen to calls, get a feel for who is interested in Becton and for what price.
And if they're dead set on replacing him draft their guy, then shop him.
Plus theoretically the Jets drafting a LT at 4 potentially fundamentally changes the draft and could create more of a need for Becton anyhow.
Regardless Becton is a dude on a rookie desk with "potential" so he should be easy to move.
AFTER we get our guy.
Honestly If we had to trade him for next years 2nd round pick that wouldn't be horrible either.
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 27, 2022, 01:48:52 AM
Rogers is the only one that knows football and he really just states his opinions. He admits he doesn’t have any kind of sources. Ekwonu is his top player so he’s hyping him up as much as possible. He’s setting himself up for views and content.Totally get that you can nitpick each guy individually. But that's a lot of different people saying that.
DJ Bien-Aime has never set foot in the Jets locker room. He has no sources. He’s an illiterate lady garden that lucked into a job that no one wanted after the Manish/McDonald debacle.
NFL and NFL Draft writers for The Athletic are garbage.
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 27, 2022, 04:36:54 AM
Totally get that you can nitpick each guy individually. But that's a lot of different people saying that.
it's likelier than anything that their 'saying the same thing' is just themselves circle jerking and regurgitating the same unsubstantiated 'rumors' they hear from each other / from others. it's that time of year, and they need things to write about and talk about
Post by: Libero_2 on April 27, 2022, 04:55:42 AM
Take off the jade tinted lenses
We traded Parry freaking Nickerson for a 6th a few years ago, and traded Blake Cashman for a 6th this off-season. A guy who has shown starting potential at corner, a position no team ever has enough guys, is absolute worth a mid round pick to some team. I’m not suggesting a 2. I’m thinking a “late” 4 or 5.
Post by: Laxin on April 27, 2022, 07:44:19 AM
Post by: reuben on April 27, 2022, 07:45:55 AM
Could Becton be included in a trade for Deebo? I’m not super familiar with the 49ers OL, but I believe they lost their RT this year in FA.
They've got Trent Williams and Mike McGlinchey, they're all set.
Post by: MBGreen on April 27, 2022, 07:51:41 AM
Could Becton be included in a trade for Deebo? I’m not super familiar with the 49ers OL, but I believe they lost their RT this year in FA.
We stole their LG in FA...i think that's the only change to their OL.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 27, 2022, 07:52:49 AM
I certainly hope we don't waste a first rounder on him. If he slides to 35, I'm all for it. He's not a first round player though.
Post by: Laxin on April 27, 2022, 10:14:30 AM
They've got Trent Williams and Mike McGlinchey, they're all set.
Ah forgot about McGlinchey
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 27, 2022, 11:00:41 AM
Cimini listed Trevor Penning as a name to watch if we move back from 10.No way he slides to 35. And no way he's worth the 10th pick.
I certainly hope we don't waste a first rounder on him. If he slides to 35, I'm all for it. He's not a first round player though.
At least with Ekwonu/Becton, you can make the case Ekwonu is the better prospect and the more reliable prospect. I know you disagreed with Ekwonu being the better prospect, but it's at least close.
Penning is not close. Penning is a downgrade over a healthy Becton.
Post by: delavan on April 27, 2022, 08:38:55 PM
^ why is this in the Becton threadIf the Jets as rumored are moving on from Becton, here's a snapshot look at a potential replacement--that's all, ya grouch. ; )
Post by: MBGreen on April 27, 2022, 09:15:18 PM
If the Jets as rumored are moving on from Becton, here's a snapshot look at a potential replacement--that's all, ya grouch. ; )
grrrr
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 28, 2022, 10:16:27 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 28, 2022, 10:17:48 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 28, 2022, 10:23:16 AM
I just don't see the Jets trading Becton, I'm sorry.
3 tackle offense.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 28, 2022, 10:24:53 AM
3 tackle offense.
Put Becton at TE. He has a basketball background.
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 28, 2022, 10:42:01 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 28, 2022, 10:42:29 AM
Fant was basically a tight end for the Seahawks before we signed him.
All tackles, all eligible.
Post by: casman02 on April 28, 2022, 08:00:44 PM
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Post by: dcm1602 on April 28, 2022, 08:08:57 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 28, 2022, 08:12:19 PM
If I was Becton I would've at least waited till we made our pick at 10
Maybe Becton heard something from Douglas that the beat writers didn't.
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 28, 2022, 08:13:04 PM
If I was Becton I would've at least waited till we made our pick at 10Jets are going to take Trevor Penning, and Cimini is going to to the DX chop.
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2022, 08:13:11 PM
Maybe Becton heard something from Douglas that the beat writers didn't.Becton told JD we're not taking a tackle.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 28, 2022, 08:20:46 PM
Maybe Becton heard something from Douglas that the beat writers didn't.Yeah, like we'll see you back at camp to compete for the LT spot.
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 28, 2022, 08:21:49 PM
Becton told JD we're not taking a tackle.
I'd believe it.
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 29, 2022, 09:54:54 AM
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Post by: reuben on May 05, 2022, 02:37:42 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/nyjets/comments/uj2ase/mekhi_becton_workout_via_thebigduke50_on_ig/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/nyjets/comments/uj2ase/mekhi_becton_workout_via_thebigduke50_on_ig/)
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Post by: Heismanberg on May 05, 2022, 02:54:11 PM
(he's stepping like he's playing left tackle though...)
Post by: ons on May 05, 2022, 04:45:14 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 05, 2022, 09:19:25 PM
That is the most important individual offensive line drill.
(he's stepping like he's playing left tackle though...)
Why would he not?
Post by: Heismanberg on May 05, 2022, 09:34:14 PM
Why would he not?
I don’t buy that there’s a competition for LT.
I think it’s Fant’s job.
Post by: dcm1602 on May 05, 2022, 09:41:19 PM
I don’t buy that there’s a competition for LT.
I think it’s Fant’s job.
I feel like we should've brought back Moses and traded Becton if he's not even in the running for LT
Of course I get why you'd prefer the 23 year old with higher upside playing on a rookie deal
Post by: Heismanberg on May 05, 2022, 09:42:39 PM
I feel like we should've brought back Moses and traded Becton if he's not even in the running for LT
Of course I get why you'd prefer the 23 year old with higher upside playing on a rookie deal
He can play right tackle
Fant - Tomlinson - McGovern - AVT - Becton
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 05, 2022, 10:02:33 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on May 05, 2022, 10:08:53 PM
I think you give the first round pick from two years ago a chance to win the LT spot.
Why?
Wirfs is at right tackle and he’s great there.
Put the best five out there.
Post by: Heismanberg on May 05, 2022, 10:08:59 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on May 06, 2022, 04:03:27 AM
I’d definitely put the Jets in that category of expecting Fant to win the gig, but being open to Mekhi walking in and kicking derriere and taking the job back. But if I had to guess I’d set expectations at 80-85% they expect Fant to win the job going away.
As an alternate example, I fully expect Saleh to give Bryce Hall a chance to compete for a starting outside corner spot this year against Reed and Sauce. That does not mean Hall is expected to win that fight, nor is it likely he does. But it doesn’t mean Saleh won’t give him a legitimate shot to prove him wrong. It’s just that before camp starts Saleh and Ulbrich are probably 98% certain Hall isn’t starting this year and will be depth and/or an injury replacement while Reed and Sauce are their top 2
Post by: dcm1602 on May 06, 2022, 06:36:02 AM
He can play right tackle
Fant - Tomlinson - McGovern - AVT - Becton
LT is the more valuable position.
I get not giving up on an early 1st rounder, but you probably could've had Moses play RT at a similar level and then gotten some early picks back for Becton
Post by: Heismanberg on May 06, 2022, 07:27:41 AM
LT is the more valuable position.
I get not giving up on an early 1st rounder, but you probably could've had Moses play RT at a similar level and then gotten some early picks back for Becton
And then you’d have to use one of those picks on a tackle
Creating holes for no reason
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 06, 2022, 10:04:32 AM
Dumping Becton for Morgan Moses would have made no sense.
Post by: Miamipuck on May 06, 2022, 12:18:38 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 06, 2022, 12:46:51 PM
Something lost in that video- he looks like he took all the weight criticism to heart. He looks to be in a lot better shape than before he was injured.
Applications in deceptive fatz.
Post by: Badger on May 06, 2022, 01:03:29 PM
Something lost in that video- he looks like he took all the weight criticism to heart. He looks to be in a lot better shape than before he was injured.That was my biggest takeaway from it.
Post by: Miamipuck on May 06, 2022, 01:08:56 PM
Applications in deceptive fatz.
He was sloppy fatz prior. Deceptive fatz is moving in the right direction.
That was my biggest takeaway from it.
Yeah I am encouraged seeing that. I think we can take the baby is on the way as the reason he wasn't in Florham Park. It's nothing nefarious like was suggested.
Post by: dcm1602 on May 06, 2022, 03:39:47 PM
Applications in deceptive fatz.
His camp was responsible for filming and releasing the video
He certainly does appear to be leaner and in better shape.
I'd just prefer it coming from 3rd party sources
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 06, 2022, 03:49:24 PM
His camp was responsible for filming and releasing the video
He certainly does appear to be leaner and in better shape.
I'd just prefer it coming from 3rd party sources
LMAO
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 07, 2022, 11:54:24 PM
DJ Bien-Aime saying the Jets want Ekwonu.
Connor Rogers has said the Jets want Ekwonu.
Dane Brugler just said there are plenty of people around the league that think Becton is gone.
Connor Hughes has been negative about Becton.
Tony Pauline has said the Jets are down on Becton.
If you want to rip any of those sources individually, that's fine. But that's a lot of people saying these things. Maybe they're all wrong. Maybe there is something to it, but they can fix it. But that's a lot of people reporting similar things.
Turns out all those guys were wrong. Shocking development
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 08, 2022, 12:06:43 PM
Turns out all those guys were wrong. Shocking developmentHard to say what their big board was. Maybe it was Hutchinson 1, Sauce 2, Ekwonu 3. But obviously they loved Sauce more.
Post by: Heismanberg on May 08, 2022, 12:10:21 PM
Hard to say what their big board was. Maybe it was Hutchinson 1, Sauce 2, Ekwonu 3. But obviously they loved Sauce more.
Easier to just admit that Tony Pauline was wrong again
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 08, 2022, 12:19:46 PM
Easier to just admit that Tony Pauline was wrong again
Why do that when you can build a tinfoil crown?
Post by: Gorilla on May 08, 2022, 01:29:08 PM
Hard to say what their big board was. Maybe it was Hutchinson 1, Sauce 2, Ekwonu 3. But obviously they loved Sauce more.
My guess is the same, that was their top 3.
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 08, 2022, 01:34:00 PM
- Jets love Sauce Gardner (confirmed)
- Jets love Ekwonu (unconfirmed)
- Jets don't like Thibodeaux (partly confirmed)
- Jets love Jermaine Johnson (largely confirmed)
- Jets want a WR at 10 (confirmed)
The other issue with drafting Ekwonu was that drafting Ekwonu also meant trading Becton (or Fant). So if the Jets couldn't get back the value they would want for Becton, then the positional value of drafting Ekwonu drops significantly.
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 08, 2022, 03:43:03 PM
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Congrats are in order.
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Post by: reuben on June 15, 2022, 12:37:08 PM
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
Robert Saleh & others have gone out of their way to openly praise — over & over again — Denzel Mims for being in incredible shape. They’ve done same with Zach Wilson gaining muscle.
If Becton was also in great shape, or at weight they wanted, they wouldn’t stop saying it.
Those hype videos tho, that empty sled wasn't pushing itself
Post by: bojanglesman on June 15, 2022, 12:39:46 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on June 15, 2022, 01:06:28 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on June 15, 2022, 01:13:48 PM
The real question for the Jets over the next 2 months or so is do they trust Mitchell/McDermott/Edoga as the main backup for Becton?
Douglas wouldn't be talking to Reiff if he was fully confident in our depth
Post by: insanity on June 16, 2022, 08:19:46 AM
Post by: Derek Smalls on June 16, 2022, 02:59:18 PM
But he did look big, and if the Jets were happy with his weight, we would know about it.
The shirts are fine, but he needs to prove it, or those shirts will be more self-fulfilling than motivating.
Saleh said, "If he takes care of his business, he can be transcendent." That's pretty much it. Becton has the potential to be a superstar, but he needs to be able to get on the field and stay on the field. He is one of the most important players on the team short-term and long-term.
Post by: klaximilian on June 16, 2022, 07:38:09 PM
Carry on...
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 16, 2022, 07:56:44 PM
Gets really fun when I just read people parroting Connor Hughes.
Post by: Derek Smalls on June 16, 2022, 11:02:52 PM
I love how experts have become an expert in assessing an additional 20 or 30 pounds on a 6'7" frame.Eh. Saleh is always super optimistic about everyone. If he were in shape the way the Jets wanted, we would know about it.
Carry on...
Post by: Badger on June 17, 2022, 07:35:54 AM
I love how experts have become an expert in assessing an additional 20 or 30 pounds on a 6'7" frame.Rich Cimini sneaking up behind Becton with calipers
Carry on...
Post by: Badger on July 12, 2022, 06:43:18 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Kevin_Robbins55/status/1546647113991348224?s=20&t=SRq6PoBkJ7-mcxtnesbAQA
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 12, 2022, 08:05:52 AM
He looks not fat
https://mobile.twitter.com/Kevin_Robbins55/status/1546647113991348224?s=20&t=SRq6PoBkJ7-mcxtnesbAQA
But I was told by Dick Cimini that he was almost 600lbs and going to practice in a mobility scooter.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 12, 2022, 10:21:42 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 12, 2022, 10:22:22 AM
Post by: Derek Smalls on July 12, 2022, 10:50:05 AM
Post by: insanity on July 12, 2022, 12:29:54 PM
He looks not fatHow can you tell.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Kevin_Robbins55/status/1546647113991348224?s=20&t=SRq6PoBkJ7-mcxtnesbAQA
This is dumb
Post by: loyaljetsfan on July 12, 2022, 03:07:45 PM
EDIT: The dude in pic with him is a dentist.
Post by: delavan on July 13, 2022, 10:33:33 AM
https://steelersdepot.com/2022/07/bleacher-report-thinks-steelers-should-pursue-mekhi-becton-this-offseason/
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 13, 2022, 11:45:56 AM
How can you tell.
This is dumb
I can accurately predict a football player’s floor press max just from a simple photograph
Becton = Not Fat
Post by: Badger on July 22, 2022, 06:12:45 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/BoyGreen25/status/1550267425815511046?cxt=HHwWjIC-6dKA1IMrAAAA
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 22, 2022, 07:31:47 AM
Saleh said Becton looks good, can we stop panicking now?
https://mobile.twitter.com/BoyGreen25/status/1550267425815511046?cxt=HHwWjIC-6dKA1IMrAAAA
But that's EXACTLY what he would say if he was trying to hide how fat Becton was to increase his trade value!
Post by: Johnny English on July 22, 2022, 07:48:04 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 22, 2022, 08:29:31 AM
If he has no restrictions from his knee, why is he on PUP?
Everyone on the PUP is coming off a season ending injury except for Uzomah who suffered an undisclosed injury in minicamp (Samia finished out the 2020 season on the COVID/Reserve list but that's all the details that I have). I'm guessing it's a precautionary move in case they suffer any setbacks in camp.
Post by: Libero_2 on July 22, 2022, 08:59:28 AM
Everyone on the PUP is coming off a season ending injury except for Uzomah who suffered an undisclosed injury in minicamp (Samia finished out the 2020 season on the COVID/Reserve list but that's all the details that I have). I'm guessing it's a precautionary move in case they suffer any setbacks in camp.
I’d expect this is true, I was surprised Ruckert (who they announced the other day isn’t healthy yet) and Sherwood weren’t also on their given their injury issues
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 22, 2022, 09:20:28 AM
I’d expect this is true, I was surprised Ruckert (who they announced the other day isn’t healthy yet) and Sherwood weren’t also on their given their injury issues
I think the injury has to be the result of a previous NFL season in order to be placed on the PUP. Since Ruckert's injury happened in the NCAA he's on the NFI.
Post by: delavan on July 22, 2022, 09:53:29 AM
As for PUP, during a team's training camp and preseason, a player can be put on the PUP list for football-related injuries at any time without penalty. That means that teams are able to add a player back to their active roster at any time. While a player is on the PUP list, he may participate in team meetings, and use team training and medical facilities, but can't practice.
However, those rules are different once the regular season begins. If a player is designated for the PUP list at the start of the season, the NFL's rules dictate that he must sit out for at least six weeks. Then, teams will have a window of five weeks to decide whether that player can start practicing. If he does not practice within those five weeks, or isn't activated to the 53-man roster within 21 days after he begins practicing again, the player will have the stay placed on the PUP list for the rest of the season.
Post by: Derek Smalls on July 26, 2022, 04:47:50 PM
He looks good in pictures. Connor is saying the staff is thrilled (after previously saying they weren't).
All systems go for Mount Becton.
Post by: Andrew Ryan on July 26, 2022, 05:30:56 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 26, 2022, 06:10:08 PM
https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1552045817111973889
He looks good in pictures. Connor is saying the staff is thrilled (after previously saying they weren't).
All systems go for Mount Becton.
Further proof that Connor J. Hughes is trash.
Post by: Libero_2 on July 26, 2022, 08:25:23 PM
Further proof that Connor J. Hughes is trash.
I think the previously was earlier this offseason, not like earlier today
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 26, 2022, 08:27:45 PM
I think the previously was earlier this offseason, not like earlier today
It was a running theme up until he reported.
But please keep defending the guy who tweeted more about the MCU than the Jets.
Post by: Derek Smalls on July 26, 2022, 09:59:16 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on July 27, 2022, 02:49:57 AM
The staff can be upset at minicamp and happy at training camp. And I think Connor saying it now adds more credence to the staff being happy now.
This was my line of thinking as well. They weren’t happy and now a Becton has done as they’ve asked and they are excited to see it
Post by: insanity on July 27, 2022, 05:27:52 AM
This was my line of thinking as well. They weren’t happy and now a Becton has done as they’ve asked and they are excited to see itYeah. I dont understand how this shows connor was wrong
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 27, 2022, 11:01:36 AM
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Now it’s official: Becton is the RT, Fant is the LT, Saleh announces. Saleh: “Mekhi’s left-tackle days are over.” #Jets
EDIT: OK, so Cimini clearly missed the first part of the quote from Saleh. If you watch the presser, you can hear Saleh start off with "It doesn't mean that..." before the rest of what was quoted above. Link below, quote starts at 2:51 mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1hpqSEN7ZY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1hpqSEN7ZY)
Post by: Badger on July 27, 2022, 11:24:53 AM
EDIT: OK, so Cimini clearly missed the first part of the quote from Saleh. If you watch the presser, you can hear Saleh start off with "It doesn't mean that..." before the rest of what was quoted above. Link below, quote starts at 2:51 mark.Fire Dick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1hpqSEN7ZY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1hpqSEN7ZY)
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 27, 2022, 12:56:55 PM
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Becton on switching to RT: it doesn’t really matter which position he plays, as long as he’s on the field. #Jets
Saleh said he was excited about having Becton and AVT playing next to each other, I think that was something several of us wanted to see.
Post by: Johnny English on July 27, 2022, 01:01:27 PM
Becton on playing RT:
Saleh said he was excited about having Becton and AVT playing next to each other, I think that was something several of us wanted to see.
I imagine there isn't a running back in the league who wouldn't be happy to have the best part of 700lbs creating space for him to play, if AVT can teach Becton to play with the same nastiness they could be a fearsome unit.
Post by: Derek Smalls on July 27, 2022, 02:39:45 PM
Post by: delavan on July 27, 2022, 03:43:54 PM
I imagine there isn't a running back in the league who wouldn't be happy to have the best part of 700lbs creating space for him to play, if AVT can teach Becton to play with the same nastiness they could be a fearsome unit.And behind Becton and AVT opposite Zach's blind side, Breece Hall could could run right where he left off at ISU.
Post by: Badger on August 02, 2022, 04:38:13 PM
(https://i.redd.it/f7jhle0klcf91.jpg)
Post by: Badger on August 03, 2022, 10:04:29 AM
Post by: loyaljetsfan on August 08, 2022, 10:35:27 AM
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On the second play of practice, Mekhi Becton suffers apparent injury to surgically repaired right knee and limps off to the locker room. He’s limping badly. #Jets
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Right after Becton went out, Zach Wilson was sacked by Jacob Martin on his only pass attempt in his first 11-on-11 series. (Mostly runs) #Jets
Assume he's done. Sign Duane Brown. Chumlord sucks
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 08, 2022, 11:06:38 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on August 08, 2022, 11:22:11 AM
Post by: reuben on August 08, 2022, 11:34:25 AM
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 08, 2022, 12:07:09 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 08, 2022, 12:15:05 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on August 08, 2022, 12:15:57 PM
Doesn't sound like it's a major deal, but it's definitely scary
Saleh quotes as saying his knee is “stable” getting MRI to confirm he’s ok.
I’d wager we won’t see Becton this week, if at all during the preseason. Saleh said he plans to play the starters 2 ish drives / about a quarter against the Iggles
Post by: loyaljetsfan on August 08, 2022, 01:07:58 PM
Saleh quotes as saying his knee is “stable” getting MRI to confirm he’s ok.
I’d wager we won’t see Becton this week, if at all during the preseason. Saleh said he plans to play the starters 2 ish drives / about a quarter against the Iggles
I actually don't think he will play week 1 vs Baltimore. He's the Blake Cashman of O-Lineman
Post by: Gorilla on August 08, 2022, 01:34:06 PM
I’d wager we won’t see Becton this week, if at all during the preseason. Saleh said he plans to play the starters 2 ish drives / about a quarter against the Iggles
Agreed, I expect he's not playing in any preseason games.
Pay...Duane...Brown.
Post by: MBGreen on August 08, 2022, 01:40:35 PM
Oh, and pay Fant. It's time.
Post by: insanity on August 08, 2022, 03:01:30 PM
I actually don't think he will play week 1 vs Baltimore. He's the Blake Cashman of O-LinemanI'm considering him out for the first quarter of the season. Even if it's not bad, I'd rather not get my hopes up based on how last season went.
Post by: loyaljetsfan on August 08, 2022, 03:07:02 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on August 08, 2022, 03:15:41 PM
Per Dick Cimini's video update, Becton got hurt bc JFM basically blew his excrement up and as Becton was falling, his right cleat got caught in grass and "caused his right knee to bend awkwardly"
JFM caught him slipping.
Sounds like Becton was dealing with some discomfort before the team drills, which is pretty concerning.
Wondering if he’s dealing with some scar tissue type pain. He just seems kind of soft as a players. The knee injury last year was no joke but he hopped out of several games as a rookie with small injuries.
Post by: MBGreen on August 08, 2022, 04:58:51 PM
JFM caught him slipping.
Sounds like Becton was dealing with some discomfort before the team drills, which is pretty concerning.
Wondering if he’s dealing with some scar tissue type pain. He just seems kind of soft as a players. The knee injury last year was no joke but he hopped out of several games as a rookie with small injuries.
Guess I'll be watching these guys this CFB season:
Peter Skoronski
Paris Johnson Jr.
Zion Nelson
Broderick Jones
Post by: delavan on August 08, 2022, 06:05:18 PM
Post by: MBGreen on August 08, 2022, 07:11:55 PM
https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1556792252827160578?t=PSBptzzrxVJdNaXp6UT5eA&s=19
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 08, 2022, 07:52:20 PM
Duane Brown needs to be signed tomorrow.
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 08, 2022, 08:09:49 PM
But this was the one glaring issue with the offseason moves on offense on paper. Whether it was directly replacing Becton with a draft pick, or whether it was getting veteran depth to be a backup until Becton proves he can stay healthy, we badly need security at the OT position. McDermott is not that. Edoga is not that. Maybe Mitchell is, but that's very risky.
Brown seems like the best guy available, and we were interested before Becton got hurt. It seems the Jets would be willing to increase the salary given the Becton injury. Brown has a lot more leverage now.
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 08, 2022, 08:42:17 PM
Post by: loyaljetsfan on August 08, 2022, 08:46:40 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on August 08, 2022, 08:55:26 PM
It’s over
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 08, 2022, 09:14:07 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 08, 2022, 09:29:40 PM
Very glad all of Douglas' drafts weren't as bad as 2020 because...yeeeesh.Ashtyn Davis might play the biggest role on this year's team in that class.
Post by: delavan on August 08, 2022, 09:47:35 PM
https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1556828669150101504
Post by: Laxin on August 08, 2022, 10:27:32 PM
https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1556817727163170818
His knee cap is his patella lol
Post by: Heismanberg on August 08, 2022, 10:57:27 PM
Sign Duane Brown and trade Denzel Mims to Chicago for Tevin Jenkins.
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 08, 2022, 11:24:57 PM
Post by: Badger on August 09, 2022, 06:11:46 AM
His knee cap is his patella lolThey don't teach that in Marvel movies.
Post by: Badger on August 09, 2022, 06:12:25 AM
So his knee was never really right and the subluxation happened again, potentially causing a chip in his knee cap.Have Mims gain 120 lbs and move him to tackle.
Sign Duane Brown and trade Denzel Mims to Chicago for Tevin Jenkins.
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 09, 2022, 07:59:57 AM
That is the type of trade you would like to make with Mims, but if Jenkins can't play on the Bears OL, that's a bad sign.
Imagine if we drafted Teven Jenkins over Elijah Moore last year like some people wanted.
Post by: MBGreen on August 09, 2022, 11:31:23 AM
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#Jets OT Mekhi Becton has suffered an avulsion fracture of the right knee cap, per me and
@MikeGarafolo
. He’s seeing a surgeon tomorrow, but likely is out for the year. Brutal.
good night, sweet prince.
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 09, 2022, 11:31:45 AM
Post by: MBGreen on August 09, 2022, 11:40:20 AM
Feel bad for Becton, but hard to wear "Big Bust" shirts all offseason after you lost your first 2 seasons due to injury, and then your 2022 season ends before the first preseason game.
It is what it is.
Sign Brown as a stopgap this year, and target OT in the first round of the 2023 draft.
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 09, 2022, 11:45:59 AM
It is what it is.There's no "good news" to an injury like this, but it is better that this injury happens now than in Week 1. It gives us more time to replace him, and bring in a guy like Brown.
Sign Brown as a stopgap this year, and target OT in the first round of the 2023 draft.
It will also be fascinating to see what this does with Fant. On one hand, Fant has more leverage as the only trustworthy tackle on the roster. On the other hand, if the long-term plan is 1st-round OT in 2023, then it could make sense to bring Fant back on a franchise tag, bring Becton back, and have the 2 compete with the rookie for the 2 spots. Especially if Fant wants more money than the Jets are willing to give.
Post by: loyaljetsfan on August 09, 2022, 11:48:08 AM
Feel bad for Becton, but hard to wear "Big Bust" shirts all offseason after you lost your first 2 seasons due to injury, and then your 2022 season ends before the first preseason game.
Why? He's made $18M doing a whole lot of nothing.
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 09, 2022, 11:50:42 AM
Why? He's made $18M doing a whole lot of nothing.Because he just tore up his knee, fucked up his next contract, and potentially fucked up his career?
Post by: loyaljetsfan on August 09, 2022, 11:56:44 AM
Because he just tore up his knee, fucked up his next contract, and potentially fucked up his career?
But he's got $18M in the bank. Barring poor financial decisions, he will be able to support his family for generations to come.
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 09, 2022, 12:08:55 PM
Why? He's made $18M doing a whole lot of nothing.
I don't see why this would prohibit anyone from feeling empathy for him for having a career ended by injuries before it had a chance to really begin.
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 09, 2022, 12:11:11 PM
I don't see why this would prohibit anyone from feeling empathy for him for having a career ended by injuries before it had a chance to really begin.Don't you know? Once you have over $1M in your bank account, you are banned from every earning sympathy from anyone.
/badger
Post by: Johnny English on August 09, 2022, 12:17:20 PM
Don't you know? Once you have over $1M in your bank account, you are banned from every earning sympathy from anyone.
/badger
Give me the cash, keep your sympathy.
Post by: delavan on August 09, 2022, 12:21:23 PM
But he's got $18M in the bank. Barring poor financial decisions, he will be able to support his family for generations to come.$18M before taxes
Guy's just been dealt a mind-numbing blow and has to be besides himself what with this latest setback. Hang tough Big Ticket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDJF0_RBz18
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 09, 2022, 12:22:55 PM
https://twitter.com/BigTicket73/status/1557044775454400512
There are certainly people I feel worse for than a multi-millionaire dealing with a knee injury. And I understand some people having schadenfreude around a guy wearing a Big Bust shirt all summer, then living up to that moniker early in camp. But it sucks. It sucks for the Jets. It sucks for him. It sucks for us. It sucks for everyone.
Post by: dcm1602 on August 09, 2022, 03:56:43 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on August 09, 2022, 04:03:52 PM
Mount Becton belongs right next to Mount Gholston
Come on now. Becton did more in camp these past ten days than Gholston ever did in his career.
Injuries suck, and it sucks it happened to Becton again. He may end up being labeled a “bust” because he isn’t healthy enough to work out, but that’s not nearly the same as Vernon Gholston.
Post by: dcm1602 on August 09, 2022, 04:51:45 PM
Come on now. Becton did more in camp these past ten days than Gholston ever did in his career.
Injuries suck, and it sucks it happened to Becton again. He may end up being labeled a “bust” because he isn’t healthy enough to work out, but that’s not nearly the same as Vernon Gholston.
Gholston was excrement, but he at least got on the field.
You can debate how much his weight and conditioning impacted his injuries (I have no idea, neither does likely any of us)
But more importantly is Bectons lack of contribution will have an impact on Zach, especially this freaking season and potentially next. And Zach is the future of this team. You can easily argue Gholston was a much worse player, but Gholston excrement play didnt contribute to the demise of the most important player to the future of this team
God if we would've drafted a tackle and traded Becton that would've been franchise altering
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 09, 2022, 04:56:16 PM
Gholston was excrement, but he at least got on the field.
he was on the field and he literally did nothing lmfaooo
i'm here to remind you that i have the same number of career sacks that gholston does
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 09, 2022, 05:03:40 PM
he suffered a freak injury last year at the hands of GVR, and now he's suffered another injury that by all accounts is sequelae of the initial one.
i wouldn't call him an injury prone draft bust yet. all we can do is wait and see what happens with his recovery this upcoming year. of course, the injury hurts. for our OL this year. for becton's career progress.
at the same time, beyond the brown stopgap signing we have to start planning for a future without him starting next offseason. sign a starter quality OL if available or draft another one before round 3. if fant again confirms himself, extend fant. have the new guy and becton fight it out for the other spot. continue to develop mitchell in the background.
Post by: reuben on August 09, 2022, 06:56:21 PM
i wouldn't call him an injury prone draft bust yet. all we can do is wait and see what happens with his recovery this upcoming year. of course, the injury hurts. for our OL this year.
You can call him or not call him whatever you want, but the fact is that he's an injury-prone bust. We need to lock up George Fant long term because he's the only good tackle on the roster, and then we need to sign, draft, or trade for a premium young offensive tackle next off-season. Relying on Mekhi Becton to start for this team in the future would be extreme negligence.
Post by: Miamipuck on August 09, 2022, 08:59:53 PM
Not to pick on you but what else can you freaking call him?
i wouldn't call him an injury prone draft bust yet. all we can do is wait and see what happens with his recovery this upcoming year. of course, the injury hurts. for our OL this year. for becton's career progress.
You can only surmise from being totally out of shape for most of his rehab, that he is a fat undisciplined slob, freak him. It would be absolute nuts to rely on him playing more than a game a season. It's obviously the priority to replace him and get some kind of decent replacement not only for now but next year and beyond. This year they're pretty fucked at this point. It will be fun watching ZW run for his freaking life.
Lol the Jets can't have nice things.
Post by: Libero_2 on August 09, 2022, 10:33:57 PM
It’s a freak accident, again. Some guys are just snake bitten and things keep happening to them. Becton seems to be one of those guys which absolutely sucks for us.
In the short term we need to bring in a guy, and preferably two. We all wanted a guy when we had a healthy Becton, now that he’s seemingly done, we need a replacement for him, and a replacement for the depth guy/insurance policy we wanted Before the injury.
Next year, we absolutely need to invest strongly in a 3rd tackle. It won’t make sense to move Becton next year, no one will trade anything of value for him, and it would be pointless to cut him, so we might as well let him compete. That said he can’t be handed a job and we need to have a legitimate competitor for that spot. In all honesty, we now basically have to bring back Fant, and quite possibly invest in him for longer than we would necessarily like to. In an ideal world we’d start developing a Fant replacement next offseason, but we can’t do that as we need to invest highly to cover for Becton. So that means that ideal scenario (2-3rd round pick on a future starting T for Fant) gets pushed to 2024 offseason
It’s all ugly and no one is going to be happy about any of the way this turned out
Post by: Heismanberg on August 09, 2022, 11:07:22 PM
I think he was probably dealing with a minor ligament sprain and the impact from the fall (toe getting caught in the turf) caused a more serious injury.
Huge waste of potential and talent. His career could be over.
Post by: Heismanberg on August 09, 2022, 11:08:38 PM
Becton is done here.
Post by: Johnny English on August 09, 2022, 11:49:42 PM
Post by: Badger on August 10, 2022, 06:34:17 AM
Don't you know? Once you have over $1M in your bank account, you are banned from every earning sympathy from anyone.Sir
/badger
It's $1B
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 10, 2022, 10:25:02 AM
His knee was unstable before he got blown up by Franklin-Myers
I think he was probably dealing with a minor ligament sprain and the impact from the fall (toe getting caught in the turf) caused a more serious injury.
Huge waste of potential and talent. His career could be over.
To think this could all be attributable to GVR getting beat so badly that he was thrown into the back of our left tackle's leg.
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 10, 2022, 11:55:49 AM
Post by: Gorilla on August 10, 2022, 12:34:36 PM
So are we gonna sign Duane Brown or what...
Seriously.
As soon as he was called upon, Chuma put on swim fins, a backwards helmet, and promptly pooped his panties, according to all accounts.
Dude is clearly not an option.
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 10, 2022, 12:51:55 PM
Seriously.
As soon as he was called upon, Chuma put on swim fins, a backwards helmet, and promptly pooped his panties, according to all accounts.
Dude is clearly not an option.
*SFD triggered
Post by: delavan on August 10, 2022, 03:21:07 PM
https://twitter.com/LukeGrant7/status/1216125139235983360
https://twitter.com/JordanHeckFF/status/1250805327861342209
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 10, 2022, 03:23:42 PM
Those were the days..In retrospect, Wirfs over Becton might be JD's biggest mistake as GM. If we had Tristan Wirfs right now, the OL would be one of the best in the NFL on paper. Instead, we likely need to draft Becton's replacement next year.
https://twitter.com/LukeGrant7/status/1216125139235983360
https://twitter.com/JordanHeckFF/status/1250805327861342209
Obviously, we got very unlucky with injuries with Becton, but we also knew injuries were more likely with Becton than most.
Post by: dcm1602 on August 10, 2022, 04:04:17 PM
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After a year of questions about his durability and health, Jets offensive tackle Mekhi Becton returned to practice two weeks ago with a simple goal: stay on the field for an entire season.
Unfortunately for Becton, that quest ended before the first preseason game.
Monday, early in the 10th practice of training camp, Becton went down with another injury to his right knee. His season is “more than likely” over, according to Jets coach Robert Saleh who said Becton suffered a chip fracture of his kneecap.
Becton is staring at another lengthy rehab, and another year of relentless questions about his durability.
But two questions loom larger than the rest: What was behind the right knee injuries that will likely cause Becton to miss 33 consecutive games? And could his NFL career be in jeopardy?
Dr. David Chao, a former longtime NFL team physician who now provides real-time injury analysis for Sports Injury Central, told NJ Advance Media that Becton’s lower body structure — he was born with a condition known as “knock knee” — makes him more prone to the type of kneecap injuries he suffered in each of the last two seasons.
In Week 1 of the 2021 season, Becton suffered a dislocated kneecap and an MCL sprain when he was rolled up on just before halftime.
“The way his knees are built,” Chao said. “Valgus knees, or knock knees, are more likely to have this type of problem.”
After last year’s injury, Becton had arthroscopic surgery to remove loose bodies from the injured knee. The hope was he’d be able to return by November at the latest, but Becton missed the final 16 games. According to Chao, a more serious surgery to realign Becton’s kneecap and reduce the odds of another dislocation “was likely an option last season, but the Jets and Becton elected to rehab the injury.”
Chao believes that Monday’s injury, while a different injury than the one Becton sustained last year, was likely related to the same issue that ended his season last year: “Becton’s kneecap jumped out of its groove, causing the chip fracture in the process.”
According to Chao, the injury to Becton’s kneecap isn’t what will end his season. That chip fracture can be repaired or removed with a relatively minor procedure. The bigger issue is that his kneecap came out of place again, very early in training camp, despite wearing a heavy brace. That means it’s likely to keep happening. And every time it happens, Becton is in danger of doing more damage to the knee.
So Chao believes Becton will have surgery to re-align his knee and prevent the same injury from happening again. And that surgery comes with a rehab period of around six months, ending Becton’s season before it started.
Chao also cited Becton’s weight issues as a contributing factor in his durability issues. Even at his listed size of 6-foot-7, 363 pounds, Becton is a massive human being who is putting a lot of stress on his lower body. He was near the 400-pound mark during his rehab last year according to ESPN. And at mandatory minicamp in June, Saleh didn’t answer when asked if Becton was in shape and said of the plan for Becton moving forward: “He’s got the next 40 days to continue to work and get himself ready to play football.”
Becton did just that, showing up to camp looking noticeably slimmer. And while he struggled with the heat early in camp — understandably, given he hadn’t been on the field in a year — Becton seemed to be moving just fine. But late last week he started wearing a knee brace, and Monday, he was limping heavily before he went down with the likely season-ending injury. Saleh said the team wasn’t second-guessing its decision to let him keep practicing.
“No, you know hindsight is always 20/20 and we can play that game for sure,” Saleh said, adding that the Jets had just come off an off day on Sunday and Becton had played on turf Saturday for the first time since last year’s surgery. “It was going to take a little while for his knee to get going. … I give Mekhi credit for how hard he’s fought, that’s all I can do. I’m proud of him because he’s come a long way, and I know his story’s not over.”
There is a chance Becton could still contribute for the Jets, although it’s now hard to imagine them picking up his fifth-year option when they have to make the decision after this season. That would put Becton in the final year of his rookie contract in 2023 when he returns. And it will have been more than two years since he played a full game.
It’s impossible to project what kind of player he will be after so much time away. And given the injuries to his knee, it’s fair to wonder if Becton will even be physically capable of playing at a high level.
But Chao is optimistic that the season-ending surgery to realign Becton’s kneecap will give him a chance to make sure his story continues.
“The good news is he can come back and be fine for next year,” Chao said. “Will he potentially be a young guy that needs some vet rest? Maybe. But this is not the end of his career.”
Post by: delavan on August 10, 2022, 04:07:34 PM
In retrospect, Wirfs over Becton might be JD's biggest mistake as GM. If we had Tristan Wirfs right now, the OL would be one of the best in the NFL on paper. Instead, we likely need to draft Becton's replacement next year.Indeed not to mention the Iowa Hawkeyes have developed a rep as a recruiting bed for OL talent.
Obviously, we got very unlucky with injuries with Becton, but we also knew injuries were more likely with Becton than most.
Post by: delavan on August 10, 2022, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: dcm1602
Dr. David Chao, a former longtime NFL team physician who now provides real-time injury analysis for Sports Injury Central, told NJ Advance Media that Becton’s lower body structure — he was born with a condition known as “knock knee” — makes him more prone to the type of kneecap injuries he suffered in each of the last two seasons.
In Week 1 of the 2021 season, Becton suffered a dislocated kneecap and an MCL sprain when he was rolled up on just before halftime.
“The way his knees are built,” Chao said. “Valgus knees, or knock knees, are more likely to have this type of problem.”
Called it v
Knock kneed
Post by: dcm1602 on August 10, 2022, 04:15:38 PM
And if shortsided decisions were made to not have Becton have the surgery last year (whether this was on the part of the Jets or Becton, also don't know)
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 10, 2022, 06:37:18 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 16, 2022, 03:20:55 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 27, 2022, 12:30:58 PM
https://twitter.com/BigTicket73/status/1585665191026515970?s=20&t=scZVtDzKF0GwHvzCpRU3ew (https://twitter.com/BigTicket73/status/1585665191026515970?s=20&t=scZVtDzKF0GwHvzCpRU3ew)
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 27, 2022, 12:32:31 PM
If nothing else at least you can say that he never lets you believe there's any quit in him.Given how this season has gone, it seems likely that Becton is competing for an OT job, but he would have basically gone 2 full seasons without playing.
https://twitter.com/BigTicket73/status/1585665191026515970?s=20&t=scZVtDzKF0GwHvzCpRU3ew (https://twitter.com/BigTicket73/status/1585665191026515970?s=20&t=scZVtDzKF0GwHvzCpRU3ew)
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 27, 2022, 12:35:12 PM
Given how this season has gone, it seems likely that Becton is competing for an OT job, but he would have basically gone 2 full seasons without playing.
If this season keeps going this way either Feeney or McGovern is going to get a try out at OT before week 19.
Post by: mj2sexay on October 27, 2022, 08:43:09 PM
If this season keeps going this way either Feeney or McGovern is going to get a try out at OT before week 19.
At this rate, Lomas Brown's going to be getting brought in for a free agent visit.
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 14, 2022, 05:31:55 PM
https://twitter.com/BigTicket73/status/1603169049877291008?s=20&t=6fsxXb9GSawIgpeZTQZ_Ug (https://twitter.com/BigTicket73/status/1603169049877291008?s=20&t=6fsxXb9GSawIgpeZTQZ_Ug)
Post by: Heismanberg on January 09, 2023, 12:04:49 PM
The guy is the biggest IF on our roster right now but IF he stays healthy, it's one less hole to fill.
Post by: Johnny English on January 09, 2023, 12:25:56 PM
He's meeting with the media today at his locker. He actually looks like he's in pretty good shape. Seems to have slimmed down.
The guy is the biggest IF on our roster right now but IF he stays healthy, it's one less hole to fill.
Can't trust to that, man. He's competing for a place now because no matter how healthy he looks, we can't trust him to hold up as a starter until he's proven he can do it.
Post by: Badger on April 27, 2023, 09:23:06 PM
Post by: Badger on April 27, 2023, 09:29:08 PM
Protect Sam, beat people up for Le'Veon.
we have a ton of upside at the tackle spot right now with becton, fant, edoga
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Post by: reuben on April 27, 2023, 09:36:10 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on April 27, 2023, 09:49:44 PM
We've got Alijah Vera-Tucker, Max Mitchell, Laken Tomlinson, Wes Schweitzer, and someone named Chris Glaser under contract in 2024. That's the entirety of our offensive line corps.
Have to expect two OL picks are coming, I’m just worried it won’t happen until day 3 now.
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 27, 2023, 09:53:13 PM
Have to expect two OL picks are coming, I’m just worried it won’t happen until day 3 now.
please no god this is how we ended up with chumer edoger
Post by: Libero_2 on April 27, 2023, 09:56:57 PM
please no god this is how we ended up with chumer edoger
Tackle targets for now
Harrison
Jones
Bergeron
IOL guys
JMS
Tippman
Wypler (my guy)
Torrence
Avila
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2023, 11:54:58 AM
Post by: dcm1602 on April 29, 2023, 03:28:18 PM
Becton will start 16 regular season games this year (I do not recognize the validity of the 17th game).
He only has to start Rodgers 11 games, since we're gonna play Zach the last few weeks to keep that 1st rounder
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 29, 2023, 03:35:53 PM
He only has to start Rodgers 11 games, since we're gonna play Zach the last few weeks to keep that 1st rounderThat's why we didn't take a tackle at 15, for the draft pick.
Post by: Heismanberg on May 01, 2023, 09:32:38 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 01, 2023, 09:33:44 AM
Post by: loyaljetsfan on May 01, 2023, 09:34:03 AM
I'll be floored if we exercise his fifth year option
Yep, esp at $18M
Post by: Heismanberg on May 01, 2023, 09:35:34 AM
and Carter Warren
Post by: reuben on May 01, 2023, 09:39:04 AM
I'll be floored if we exercise his fifth year option
Yeah. The option and the franchise tag number are almost equal, absolutely no reason to guarantee him anything.
Post by: Libero_2 on May 01, 2023, 10:55:09 AM
Becton is younger than John Michael Schmitz
and Carter Warren
All the more reason to have belief in him still. He’s isn’t bad at football. Just overweight and injured.
Here’s hoping being in better shape and surgically repairing that knee allows him to stay on the field this year
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 01, 2023, 11:50:07 AM
Post by: d sw0rdz on May 01, 2023, 07:46:09 PM
Hopefully between him Mitchell we can walk out of the season with at least one veteran OT able to both play a full season and live.
i want to root for mitchell but honestly fear for his well being if he ever chooses to play (would be off anticoagulants) due to his clotting disorder
has he even been medically cleared to return to play?
Post by: reuben on May 01, 2023, 07:49:14 PM
i want to root for mitchell but honestly fear for his well being if he ever chooses to play (would be off anticoagulants) due to his clotting disorder
has he even been medically cleared to return to play?
They showed him hitting the practice field. I'd imagine this is one of those things that's super deadly if it sneaks up on you but manageable once you've identified it? I really don't know. Trey Smith seems to be doing just fine though.
Post by: d sw0rdz on May 01, 2023, 08:07:15 PM
They showed him hitting the practice field. I'd imagine this is one of those things that's super deadly if it sneaks up on you but manageable once you've identified it? I really don't know. Trey Smith seems to be doing just fine though.
typically the management of a hypercoagulable disorder (propensity to develop clots) after you've already developed a clot is anticoagulation (blood thinners) for life. he wouldn't be able to play a contact sport like football as it would mean he would be at high risk to bleed anywhere, with the most feared being a brain bleed due to the nature of the sport.
if he has a hypercoagulable disorder and he decides against blood thinners in order to play football, this means he would be at high risk to clot again. the pulmonary embolism he developed could have killed him and if truly hypercoagulable, he would be at risk for something like this again.
it's good to hear he is on the field but i imagine we won't ever know the fine details regarding his diagnosis or what discussions went on in the background when he decided to play. i hope he takes care of himself and everything turns out fine.
Post by: MexJetinBcn on May 02, 2023, 04:27:02 AM
ESPN had a story on him with quotes by his father. They say "a few months of blood thinning meds" https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35212696/jets-ot-max-mitchell-season-due-blood-clots-says-father
Post by: Coach K on May 02, 2023, 07:35:25 AM
For some it can he managed for some it's a literal time bomb
If im building the roster and my job depends on it I wouldn't he penciling him in for excrement tbh
I haven't followed his reports or anything though hopefully he recovers and can play because he was solid
Post by: Libero_2 on May 02, 2023, 09:42:18 AM
We get official word about Mekhi’s 5th year option today don’t we?
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 02, 2023, 11:36:54 AM
Setting aside Mitchell’s blood clots…Spoiler alert: no shot we pick it up.
We get official word about Mekhi’s 5th year option today don’t we?
Maybe they try to negotiate some other deal to keep him if they want, but no shot they pick it up.
Can't commit to Becton more than a year at a time until proven otherwise. If he plays well and stays healthy, tag him and make him prove it again.
Post by: Heismanberg on May 02, 2023, 11:38:19 AM
Spoiler alert: no shot we pick it up.
Maybe they try to negotiate some other deal to keep him if they want, but no shot they pick it up.
Can't commit to Becton more than a year at a time until proven otherwise. If he plays well and stays healthy, tag him and make him prove it again.
What Green Bay did with Jordan Love is interesting. Becton's deal would have to be a lot cheaper though.
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 02, 2023, 11:42:00 AM
What Green Bay did with Jordan Love is interesting. Becton's deal would have to be a lot cheaper though.Yeah, that made me think of the extension. I don't know if it works with Becton because Becton's value also has never been lower. I'm not sure the Jets would want to commit to another year, and I doubt Becton would want to sign anything now.
Post by: dcm1602 on May 02, 2023, 11:44:30 AM
Vinny Curry also had that and came back last season, and... I know that's not what the family or the team say but blood clots can also be a side effect of intense 'roid use.
ESPN had a story on him with quotes by his father. They say "a few months of blood thinning meds" https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35212696/jets-ot-max-mitchell-season-due-blood-clots-says-father
Vinny Curry had a blood clot problem, but his issues were supposedly related to his spleen which was surgically removed.
Mitchells problems as far as we know was just blood related. So similar in the sense they're both blood problems, but not the same
Post by: Johnny English on May 02, 2023, 11:53:51 AM
Yeah, that made me think of the extension. I don't know if it works with Becton because Becton's value also has never been lower. I'm not sure the Jets would want to commit to another year, and I doubt Becton would want to sign anything now.
He's making $5M this year and if he has another year of injury problems he's going to be a FA in 2024 looking for someone willing to take a cheap risk on him. If the Jets decline his option and put an $8-10M 5th year extension on the table it would be a brave move to turn it down. Better to take the money on offer now, have a good year this year and renegotiate in 12 months' time IMO.
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 02, 2023, 02:07:30 PM
He's making $5M this year and if he has another year of injury problems he's going to be a FA in 2024 looking for someone willing to take a cheap risk on him. If the Jets decline his option and put an $8-10M 5th year extension on the table it would be a brave move to turn it down. Better to take the money on offer now, have a good year this year and renegotiate in 12 months' time IMO.Can't imagine the Jets offer Becton $8M guaranteed next season right now.
Post by: Heismanberg on May 02, 2023, 02:39:32 PM
declined
Post by: loyaljetsfan on May 02, 2023, 02:48:53 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on May 02, 2023, 04:10:55 PM
Post by: Coach K on May 02, 2023, 04:19:11 PM
It's now or never and he's playing for his career
Post by: reuben on May 07, 2023, 01:04:13 PM
I'd love to see him prove otherwise, but I'm fairly convinced that Mekhi Becton just doesn't get it.
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 07, 2023, 01:15:06 PM
Post by: delavan on May 07, 2023, 04:16:05 PM
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After Saleh told reporters that there would be open competitions at both right and left tackle involving
Becton, Duane Brown, Max Mitchell, Billy Turner and Cedric Ogbuehi,
Becton indicated on Twitter that he is a LT.
What AFCE DT isn’t licking his chops (outside of a full Becton miraculous recovery)?
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 07, 2023, 04:34:52 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on May 07, 2023, 05:10:47 PM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/05/07/mekhi-becton-says-hes-a-left-tackle-robert-saleh-tells-him-to-earn-it/ (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/05/07/mekhi-becton-says-hes-a-left-tackle-robert-saleh-tells-him-to-earn-it/)
I'd love to see him prove otherwise, but I'm fairly convinced that Mekhi Becton just doesn't get it.
He clearly doesn’t have the same mentality as AVT. I hope he proves that he’s better than Brown by a mile this summer and is the LT, but he clearly needs to stay healthy more than anything else.
Orlando Brown pulled the same bullshit, then got traded to KC got to be Mahomes LT, won a Super Bowl and then didn’t get paid the money he wanted. I suspect part of that is him being an derriere about it.
Post by: reuben on May 07, 2023, 05:45:41 PM
He clearly doesn’t have the same mentality as AVT. I hope he proves that he’s better than Brown by a mile this summer and is the LT, but he clearly needs to stay healthy more than anything else.
Orlando Brown pulled the same bullshit, then got traded to KC got to be Mahomes LT, won a Super Bowl and then didn’t get paid the money he wanted. I suspect part of that is him being an derriere about it.
The big difference is that OB never missed a game since getting drafted and made a pro bowl at RT. That's when it's understandable to dictate terms and take your chances on the market. Becton hasn't done excrement since his rookie year and can't seem to avoid saying/wearing dumbass things that don't help the team or his chances of continuing his career. He's got a difficult path to being our starting right tackle, but at least it's a possibility. His only chance at starting at left tackle is an injury to Duane Brown, and even then I'd prefer to kick out AVT than roll with him. Real dumbass moment to proclaim that you're strictly a left tackle.
Post by: reuben on May 07, 2023, 05:55:48 PM
Post by: d sw0rdz on May 07, 2023, 06:13:34 PM
He's going to request a trade halfway through camp once it becomes clear to him that he won't be a starter for us at left tackle. Bet on it.
unfortunately i think you're spot on. we saw very similar mental fragility from moore last year
something is obviously off with him if he doesn't understand that he's fighting for his football life and should be trying to prove his health / reliability / availability for the team first and foremost
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 07, 2023, 08:51:59 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on May 07, 2023, 10:49:13 PM
I expect Saleh to give him a fair shot to win the job. If he actually gets a shot and loses, where is he going to get traded that offers him a shot to start at LT half way through camp or later?
His best shot at getting paid and a new long term deal next offseason is to get on the field and keep Rodgers upright for 17-20 games. He does that, he will get paid a pretty penny by somebody. If he can’t, he won’t. It won’t matter if he fails at left or right. If he gets it right, he will get his. If he can’t stay on the field, it won’t matter anyways
Post by: dcm1602 on May 08, 2023, 12:56:45 AM
Is because here he has a chance to be a starter in an offense he knows with Aaron Rodgers as his QB
Realistically were not trading him regardless, and if we do it's not going to be to a contender in the AFC, or it'll be to to an NFC team (and there's only one great QB in the NFC)
In sum, I imagine Becton getting traded only harms his market as a UFA
Unless he ends up being a backup here, in which case maybe it benefits him
Post by: Badger on May 08, 2023, 11:48:37 AM
He's going to request a trade halfway through camp once it becomes clear to him that he won't be a starter for us at left tackle. Bet on it.Mekhyrie?
Post by: Heismanberg on May 22, 2023, 11:33:36 AM
fun stuff
Post by: reuben on May 22, 2023, 12:38:35 PM
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Becton believes that his missing most of the last two seasons is not due to him being injury prone, and the Jets made a colossal mistake with him in 2022. After his 2021 knee injury, the Jets moved him to right tackle. Becton claims that playing on that side during training camp weakened his right knee. He would end up suffering an avulsion fracture.
“It made no sense to put me at right tackle,” Becton said to Newsday’s Bob Glauber. I hurt my right knee. That’s going to be the knee that I put the most pressure on [in pass protection.] I explained it [to the coaches], but no one cared.”
Bro shut THE freak up. This guy can't help himself, I swear.
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Becton had gotten up to nearly 400 pounds — and has entered that contract-year zone of conditioning in which he is in the “best shape of his life.”
There it is. Dude's done.
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 22, 2023, 01:19:23 PM
I think we did a better job addressing backup this year than last year, but he's still a big key.
Post by: Heismanberg on May 22, 2023, 02:11:32 PM
For a guy who doesn't seem to get along with the coaching staff, the Jets sure are putting a lot of faith in Becton for a 2nd straight offseason.
I think we did a better job addressing backup this year than last year, but he's still a big key.
The Cajuste visit that we have this week is interesting...
We're already reasonably deep at tackle after the Turner signing. It might be better for both sides just to part ways here. Maybe dump him for a conditional pick?
He seems physically and mentally soft. Unfortunately this just didn't work and it's a significant miss.
Post by: reuben on May 22, 2023, 02:18:39 PM
For a guy who doesn't seem to get along with the coaching staff, the Jets sure are putting a lot of faith in Becton for a 2nd straight offseason.
I don't think we're putting any faith in him. Wisely. We declined his fifth year, we scouted every first round tackle in the draft, we took a developmental tackle once we missed out, we've signed a capable swing with starting experience, and we're still looking to improve the position through free agency. None of that screams "MEKHI!" to me.
Post by: Heismanberg on May 22, 2023, 02:23:55 PM
I don't think we're putting any faith in him. Wisely. We declined his fifth year, we scouted every first round tackle in the draft, we took a developmental tackle once we missed out, we've signed a capable swing with starting experience, and we're still looking to improve the position through free agency. None of that screams "MEKHI!" to me.
I think the right tackle job is Max Mitchell's to lose right now.
What's even more frustrating about Becton is that even if he stays healthy and loses the starting job, he'll be a crybaby on the bench.
Post by: reuben on May 22, 2023, 02:44:57 PM
I think the right tackle job is Max Mitchell's to lose right now.Agree on both points
What's even more frustrating about Becton is that even if he stays healthy and loses the starting job, he'll be a crybaby on the bench.
Post by: loyaljetsfan on May 22, 2023, 02:55:54 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 22, 2023, 03:39:54 PM
Post by: Badger on May 22, 2023, 04:06:10 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 22, 2023, 04:07:09 PM
I think the right tackle job is Max Mitchell's to lose right now.Really? I think it's almost certainly Becton's to lose. Mitchell was OK last year but nothing special, and I wouldn't want him entering as a starter. And he wasn't healthy.
What's even more frustrating about Becton is that even if he stays healthy and loses the starting job, he'll be a crybaby on the bench.
I think Billy Turner is more likely to enter camp as a starter than Mitchell.
Post by: Heismanberg on May 22, 2023, 04:14:44 PM
Really? I think it's almost certainly Becton's to lose. Mitchell was OK last year but nothing special, and I wouldn't want him entering as a starter. And he wasn't healthy.
Becton has to make it out of training camp before he can lose anything.
Post by: MBGreen on May 22, 2023, 04:38:09 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on May 22, 2023, 04:44:11 PM
This is very interesting.
Post by: reuben on May 22, 2023, 04:53:22 PM
Really? I think it's almost certainly Becton's to lose. Mitchell was OK last year but nothing special, and I wouldn't want him entering as a starter. And he wasn't healthy.
He was pretty good until he got hurt, especially for a 4th rounder. He came back and played well. I think there's a lot of potential there. Plus he was recognized as a team leader throughout college and clearly has the respect of the coaching staff. Also he didn't blame his blood clots on the freaking Jets nutritionists or parking lot attendants and that counts for something in my book.
I have substantially more faith in Mitchell's future than Becton's. Becton can't even get through a single offseason without making an derriere of himself or blaming someone else for his own shortcomings.
Post by: Heismanberg on May 22, 2023, 04:55:19 PM
You can't predict injuries, especially the ones that he's suffered. It's unfortunate that our scouting department, coaches, and GM weren't able to identify just how stupid this player is.
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 22, 2023, 05:52:28 PM
He was pretty good until he got hurt, especially for a 4th rounder. He came back and played well. I think there's a lot of potential there. Plus he was recognized as a team leader throughout college and clearly has the respect of the coaching staff. Also he didn't blame his blood clots on the freaking Jets nutritionists or parking lot attendants and that counts for something in my book.I think your qualifier is correct. "For a 4th rounder" he was pretty good.
I have substantially more faith in Mitchell's future than Becton's. Becton can't even get through a single offseason without making an derriere of himself or blaming someone else for his own shortcomings.
Is that the guy I want to go into the season as protecting Aaron Rodgers on the right side? I'd love for him to prove it. Not saying he can't. But I think Becton showed he has a higher ceiling.
Post by: reuben on May 22, 2023, 06:02:18 PM
Is that the guy I want to go into the season as protecting Aaron Rodgers on the right side?
Honestly, no, no I don't feel great about it. I really believe that this line needed to add a first round talent at tackle, but here we are. I think of the players we have to work with, Mitchell has shown potential, Warren is an unknown commodity, Turner is an aged but capable back-up, and Mekhi Becton shouldn't be relied upon in any capacity.
Post by: reuben on May 22, 2023, 06:04:53 PM
But I think Becton showed he has a higher ceiling.
I just think his ceiling is irrelevant at this point. We've had a rash of players recently with sky-high ceilings who are too stupid and/or immature to get off of their respective floors.
Post by: reuben on May 22, 2023, 06:17:51 PM
~ Saleh suggests conditioning and weight management are areas to focus on during Mekhi's first offseason
~ Mekhi shows up with below average conditioning and 400+
~ Gets injured immediately, expected to miss about a month
~ Winds up missing the whole season
~ Not a single public critical word from CS or Saleh during that span
~ Shows up overweight and underconditioned to 2022 training camp
~ Gets reinjured immediately
~ Nothing but positivity and public support from Saleh and CS
~ Finally gets in shape after another year
~ "They should have played me at LT, it's their fault. No one cared."
Next level bonkers lack of accountability.
Post by: Badger on May 22, 2023, 06:39:13 PM
The total timeline is just so bonkers to me:Last year's Zach debacle really drove this home for me - a lot of players on our team, especially the young guys, read the clickbait headlines about the team and take them as gospel. So Saleh saying "we're gonna play our best five" becomes "Robert Saleh slams an offensive lineman" and it honestly seems like he believes that's what's happening.
~ Saleh suggests conditioning and weight management are areas to focus on during Mekhi's first offseason
~ Mekhi shows up with below average conditioning and 400+
~ Gets injured immediately, expected to miss about a month
~ Winds up missing the whole season
~ Not a single public critical word from CS or Saleh during that span
~ Shows up overweight and underconditioned to 2022 training camp
~ Gets reinjured immediately
~ Nothing but positivity and public support from Saleh and CS
~ Finally gets in shape after another year
~ "They should have played me at LT, it's their fault. No one cared."
Next level bonkers lack of accountability.
Post by: reuben on May 22, 2023, 06:55:15 PM
I still think it's the right approach, but I do wonder if either of the three would have been better off with a Belichick-type poopchute telling them exactly what to do and when to do it. Probably more likely they would have never even made those rosters.
Post by: Libero_2 on May 22, 2023, 07:54:48 PM
I really respect Saleh's (apparent) approach to player relations: treat the players like grown men, professionals. Don't treat them like children who need to be disciplined. Long-term, I think it's the right approach. The unfortunate drawback of that philosophy, especially in the first few years while you're building the culture throughout the locker room, is that some young players really still are children at heart. Zach Wilson, Elijah Moore, and Mekhi Becton have all struggled here due in some part to their inability to carry themselves like grown professionals.
I still think it's the right approach, but I do wonder if either of the three would have been better off with a Belichick-type poopchute telling them exactly what to do and when to do it. Probably more likely they would have never even made those rosters.
In a perfect world, I think that poopchute, is a veteran that young guy can look up to and say “damn that dudes been in the league a decade and been really freaking good., I should shut up and listen”
In our case when Becton was drafted we had what, one dude under contract who fit that description in CJ Mosely, and he opted out. We had no reasonable vet and no decent coach who could corral the kid. He has not developed the mentality of a professional athlete, and it shows.
I assume in 2-3 years we don’t have these same issues, for two reasons. 1. We better identify the guys with these issues and weed them out of our process/team building. 2. We will have legit stars on the roster who have thrived that dudes can look at and say “that’s the dude I want to be”
Post by: reuben on May 23, 2023, 12:50:16 PM
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Jets OT Mekhi Becton is not practicing at OTAs.
Becton has missed most of the past two seasons with knee injuries while fighting weight issues and earning the ire of Jets coaches. Becton blamed his coaches for causing his 2022 knee injury by switching him from left tackle to right tackle. It's unclear where Becton will play this season. The team in early May declined Becton's fifth-year option, making 2023 perhaps his final year in New York. Becton, 24, certainly has what it takes to be a foundational piece of the Jets offensive line if he can stay healthy this season.
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 23, 2023, 01:50:28 PM
Post by: insanity on May 23, 2023, 01:58:23 PM
Post by: Badger on May 23, 2023, 01:59:48 PM
Do we know why?Clearly because he's training with his own specialized team in the offseason to prove the haters and doubters wrong.
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 23, 2023, 02:03:57 PM
Clearly because he's training with his own specialized team in the offseason to prove the haters and doubters wrong.
Basically this. It's what he did last season, too.
Post by: Libero_2 on May 23, 2023, 03:58:17 PM
Basically this. It's what he did last season, too.
Aren’t we into the “mandatory” time frame?
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 23, 2023, 04:06:42 PM
Aren’t we into the “mandatory” time frame?
June
Post by: reuben on May 23, 2023, 04:18:32 PM
Basically this. It's what he did last season, too.
Empty sled hype video incoming
Post by: Coach K on May 23, 2023, 09:21:43 PM
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Post by: dcm1602 on July 15, 2023, 02:07:03 PM
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Jets LT Mekhi Becton recently weighed in at the low 340s.
This is good news for Becton after the fourth-year tackle ballooned to the 390-plus range last season. The Jets declined Becton’s fifth-year option and added competition in ex-Seahawks LT Duane Brown this offseason, making it possible Becton opens this year as a backup. Becton’s $5.9 million in dead money locks in his 2023 roster spot with the Jets
Post by: Badger on August 01, 2023, 11:47:11 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 01, 2023, 12:15:19 PM
https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1686414201907019777?t=E2c03x84aHOA8bTFWCYuzg&s=19
This seems like what we wanted him to say last season as well.
How he reacts if he has to start the season on the bench will be a different issue.
Post by: MBGreen on August 01, 2023, 12:42:55 PM
@ZackBlatt
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Mekhi Becton said his knee was never fully healed going into last year. “I didn’t get the surgery I was supposed to get.” #Jets
wat
Post by: Heismanberg on August 01, 2023, 12:53:53 PM
Post by: MBGreen on August 01, 2023, 01:18:15 PM
Is that up to him or the team? Very bizarre
Did he choose his surgery off a menu? wtf are we doing here
Post by: Badger on August 01, 2023, 01:20:36 PM
Did he choose his surgery off a menu? wtf are we doing here"I specifically said no arthroscopy."
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 01, 2023, 01:40:30 PM
Doctors aren't perfect.
Post by: reuben on August 01, 2023, 02:18:00 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 01, 2023, 02:54:09 PM
Although we did see another team's doctor collapse Tyrod Taylor's lung on the sideline two years ago.
Post by: Johnny English on August 02, 2023, 10:59:03 AM
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"Yeah, we're definitely going to plan on playing him," Saleh said. "Pitch count, I think we're trying to get him in the 20 to 25 range with regards to snaps."
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 02, 2023, 11:51:26 AM
Brian Costello just going full bore here.
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 02, 2023, 12:09:32 PM
https://nypost.com/2023/08/01/mekhi-becton-knows-hes-fighting-for-his-jets-carer-in-preseason/ (https://nypost.com/2023/08/01/mekhi-becton-knows-hes-fighting-for-his-jets-carer-in-preseason/)
Brian Costello just going full bore here.
Hope he actually did mature, not just thinks he did.
Post by: MBGreen on August 04, 2023, 06:43:09 AM
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Antwan V. Staley
@antwanstaley
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Mekhi Becton said he just has to know that “this is his new normal.” He also said the turf wasn’t good for his knee but he feels fine
the turf wasn't good for his knee? This guy isn't getting re-signed
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 04, 2023, 07:05:55 AM
Post by: Coach K on August 04, 2023, 08:35:53 AM
Awesome
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Post by: Johnny English on August 04, 2023, 09:10:39 AM
the turf wasn't good for his knee? This guy isn't getting re-signedTBF that field in Canton doesn't have the best reputation.
Post by: Heismanberg on August 04, 2023, 09:20:48 AM
the turf wasn't good for his knee? This guy isn't getting re-signed
it's a mental block
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 04, 2023, 09:28:06 AM
Post by: Libero_2 on August 04, 2023, 09:38:23 AM
it's a mental block
This is exactly what it is. He can’t be trusted until he gets past it. Simple as that. This is why we keep seeing reports of Mitchell dominating the RT snaps, because that seems to be the guy they’ve pegged to start until Becton is ready (or if he ever is)
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 04, 2023, 09:43:04 AM
I'm not seeing a path for him cracking the starting lineup by the opener but I don't think it's a given that he's useless.
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 04, 2023, 09:45:38 AM
TBF that field in Canton doesn't have the best reputation.
TBF, neither does MetLife
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 04, 2023, 09:48:24 AM
And he looked good in those clips from the tweet SFD posted.
Post by: loyaljetsfan on August 04, 2023, 10:15:57 AM
Post by: MBGreen on August 04, 2023, 10:28:37 AM
it's a mental block
the Metlife turf doesn't do anyone any favors either...so he better get past that mental block.
Post by: MBGreen on August 04, 2023, 10:28:51 AM
TBF, neither does MetLife
beat me to it
Post by: Libero_2 on August 04, 2023, 11:04:52 AM
the Metlife turf doesn't do anyone any favors either...so he better get past that mental block.
Thought we were changing the field this summer for the fall
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 04, 2023, 11:29:42 AM
Thought we were changing the field this summer for the fall
We already did.
From an SI article in March:
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The new playing surface in both facilities is a monofilament synthetic grass, replacing the slit film surface previously in place. The current slit film surface, according to Pioneer Athletics, consists of "fibers created from a single piece of flat plastic which create a canopy over the infill.
Not sure how much of an improvement this will actually be.
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 04, 2023, 12:06:38 PM
Post by: MBGreen on August 04, 2023, 12:09:57 PM
Just plant freaking grass!
this
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 04, 2023, 01:36:48 PM
Dude is mentally soft
Or he’s 400 lbs coming off back to back serious knee injuries. Either or
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 04, 2023, 01:51:23 PM
Definitely still adjusting to his current state.
Post by: Heismanberg on August 04, 2023, 01:53:49 PM
Definitely still adjusting to his current state.
Ideally, he shakes this and can become a starter for us again but I think using him as a swing tackle early on is probably best case scenario early in the season.
Put him on the right to help out Mitchell in short yardage situations.
Post by: Libero_2 on August 04, 2023, 02:26:49 PM
Ideally, he shakes this and can become a starter for us again but I think using him as a swing tackle early on is probably best case scenario early in the season.
Put him on the right to help out Mitchell in short yardage situations.
Rob Turner role. Limited snaps, but murdering people in the run game when needed. Sounds like a good way to work him in
Post by: reuben on August 04, 2023, 02:52:59 PM
Dude is mentally soft
Or he’s 400 lbs coming off back to back serious knee injuries. Either or
Not either-or: both.
There's no part of the injury recovery process that mandates you throw the coaches and training staff under the bus for your own inability to stay healthy. That's the weakest excrement ever. No personal accountability whatsoever, and he plays in a position group that is nothing but accountability.
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 04, 2023, 03:33:56 PM
Not either-or: both.
There's no part of the injury recovery process that mandates you throw the coaches and training staff under the bus for your own inability to stay healthy. That's the weakest excrement ever. No personal accountability whatsoever, and he plays in a position group that is nothing but accountability.
He did mention recently that he needed to mature, so while he did screw up last year with that nonsense if he learned from it, I think he should be allowed the mulligan.
Post by: reuben on August 04, 2023, 03:47:15 PM
He did mention recently that he needed to mature, so while he did screw up last year with that nonsense if he learned from it, I think he should be allowed the mulligan.
It wasn't last year, it was two months ago...
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“It made no sense to put me at right tackle,” Becton said to Newsday’s Bob Glauber. I hurt my right knee. That’s going to be the knee that I put the most pressure on [in pass protection.] I explained it [to the coaches], but no one cared.”
...and Tuesday.
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Zack Rosenblatt
@ZackBlatt
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Mekhi Becton said his knee was never fully healed going into last year. “I didn’t get the surgery I was supposed to get.” #Jets
I think excrement's going to hit the fan with Hard Knocks. Something's going to rub him the wrong way and he's going to flip out on twitter.
Post by: Johnny English on August 04, 2023, 05:47:29 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 04, 2023, 05:52:26 PM
The plan seems to be having Brown play LT once he's back and if he doesn't last then I'm assuming the contingency will be AVT at LT with Mitchell at RT and an interior mix of Tomlinson/McGovern/Schweitzer/Tippmann.
The plan for Becton shouldn't be anything more than a pleasant surprise if he stays healthy throughout the season and an "Oh, holy excrement" if he somehow reclaims a tackle spot. I want him to succeed but I'm not counting on it.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 04, 2023, 10:29:50 PM
Post by: Badger on August 12, 2023, 11:01:28 PM
Post by: MBGreen on August 13, 2023, 09:40:57 AM
I’m not too worried about it. Staying on the field is Becton’s only issue (a big issue). When he’s played, he’s performed. He hasn’t handled the last 2 years well at all… it’s a high stress situation. The guys career is on the line and he’s constantly under fire.
(https://scontent.fyyc2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/366696535_837915894357227_2884700975224089894_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p960x960&_nc_cat=108&cb=99be929b-59f725be&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=7f8c78&_nc_ohc=gGWy_Es3SJoAX-ySJyY&_nc_ht=scontent.fyyc2-1.fna&oh=00_AfAntUnyPgdGrN0cGis9YWHLnUwy3e8hn1QfSpEQfBo3HQ&oe=64DE9A21)
Post by: MexJetinBcn on August 13, 2023, 12:05:53 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on August 13, 2023, 02:43:55 PM
If he doesn’t get injured, he’ll be our starting LT week 1. Mark my words.
Saleh already said Brown is the starter
Post by: MBGreen on August 13, 2023, 03:02:43 PM
Saleh already said Brown is the starterSaleh lied
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 13, 2023, 03:35:51 PM
If he doesn’t get injured, he’ll be our starting LT week 1. Mark my words.I can't imagine that given how they are talking about him.
If he doesn't get hurt, I think he might take over midseason, but I don't think they plan on starting him. They want to build up his confidence first. And I'd rather have him in December/January than September if he is healthy and performing.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 13, 2023, 04:32:21 PM
I’m not even close to sold on Duane Brown and Max Mitchell as the starting OT duo. It would feel like malpractice to wait this whole time for Becton to get healthy now only to cut him when OT is the biggest weak spot on our roster
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 13, 2023, 04:35:20 PM
Just based off vibes
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 13, 2023, 05:02:41 PM
I would love to be wrong but Billy Turner is Wayne Hunter
Just based off vibes
Yea that makes sense.
Post by: MexJetinBcn on August 13, 2023, 06:40:30 PM
Saleh already said Brown is the starter
He has to be ready and he hasn’t even practiced. If he doesn’t this week, I don’t see how he will play week 1
Post by: Heismanberg on August 13, 2023, 06:56:01 PM
He has to be ready and he hasn’t even practiced. If he doesn’t this week, I don’t see how he will play week 1
Saleh also said that he’ll be ready for Week 1
Post by: reuben on August 13, 2023, 06:57:48 PM
He has to be ready and he hasn’t even practiced. If he doesn’t this week, I don’t see how he will play week 1
I've always assumed the plan was for Duane Brown to basically skip all of training camp and preseason.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 13, 2023, 08:25:43 PM
Post by: Laxin on August 13, 2023, 09:26:47 PM
Post by: Badger on August 16, 2023, 07:35:57 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 16, 2023, 07:43:00 PM
Post by: Badger on August 16, 2023, 07:49:09 PM
Hope he takes whatever Rodgers says to him at lunch to heart.
"Jet fuel can't melt steel beams, Mekhi."
Post by: Johnny English on August 16, 2023, 08:09:11 PM
Post by: delavan on August 16, 2023, 08:36:41 PM
"Jet fuel can't melt steel beams, Mekhi."Hahaha
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Pancake.JPG/320px-Pancake.JPG)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 20, 2023, 07:24:41 PM
He’s currently our best tackle IMO so he needs to start at RT or LT
Duane Brown is 37, wasn’t able to start or finish the season last year and has posted a progression of PFF grades of:
2020: 87.3
2021: 71.5
2022: 57.8
Billy Turner is a bum and it looks like Max Mitchell is going through a sophomore slump or wasn’t an actually decent last year. Maybe hangover from health condition?
Post by: Heismanberg on August 20, 2023, 07:30:25 PM
He’s currently our best tackle IMO so he needs to start at RT or LT
Duane Brown is 37, wasn’t able to start or finish the season last year and has posted a progression of PFF grades of:
You can't praise Becton and then knock another player (that played through a significant injury) for missing time
I loved Becton as a prospect and I hope this is finally where things workout for him but he is arguably the least dependable player on our roster
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 20, 2023, 07:51:58 PM
agree that we still can't depend on him at all imo. but it's too early to give up on either him or mitchell at this point. becton has less time on his side
also, where the hell is carter warren?
Post by: Libero_2 on August 20, 2023, 08:24:32 PM
have to credit the staff for going about it the way they have with becton. from a guy who was tweeting that he doesn't want to play RT, to somebody that looked like he was playing with fire and with a point to prove on saturday night, you have to give them credit for finding a way to light a fire on his derriere enough to try and impress at RT
agree that we still can't depend on him at all imo. but it's too early to give up on either him or mitchell at this point. becton has less time on his side
also, where the hell is carter warren?
I suspect Warren is about to be an IR candidate for this season.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 20, 2023, 09:58:12 PM
According to PFF, Becton did not allow a single sack, hit, hurry or pressure in 19 pass blocking snaps.
Hamilcar will never be the same
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 22, 2023, 03:01:13 PM
Said he had fish and veggies for lunch. Career ending stomach problems in 3...2...1...
Post by: reuben on August 22, 2023, 04:07:56 PM
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[Rosenblatt] Mekhi Becton said he and Aaron Rodgers had lunch yesterday and that it’ll be a recurring thing. Said he offered a lot of words of encouragement. Becton has called it surreal getting to have this sort of relationship with Rodgers. #Jets
I don't really care about Zach Wilson. But if Aaron Rodgers done fixed Mekhi Becton, that's some king-tier excrement.
Post by: MBGreen on August 22, 2023, 04:18:45 PM
I don't really care about Zach Wilson. But if Aaron Rodgers done fixed Mekhi Becton, that's some king-tier excrement.All u need to do...is let Dalvin Cook.
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 22, 2023, 04:28:22 PM
All u need to do...is let Dalvin Cook.
Then we can order every app for the table.
Post by: MBGreen on August 22, 2023, 06:19:41 PM
Then we can order every app for the table.PuckTheElder
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 22, 2023, 07:03:48 PM
I don't really care about Zach Wilson. But if Aaron Rodgers done fixed Mekhi Becton, that's some king-tier excrement.
Most HoFers don't want/need to coach, but Rodgers seems to be relishing the opportunity to mentor and coach guys up. It's actually really cool to see.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 22, 2023, 08:04:42 PM
Most HoFers don't want/need to coach, but Rodgers seems to be relishing the opportunity to mentor and coach guys up. It's actually really cool to see.
There’s a lot of opportunity here. I haven’t seen this level of professionalism in a Jets team since… I’ve been alive?
Saleh is a massive part of that. But it’s huge to be able to finally have a QB that’s a leader and can also actually lead by example. Prob haven’t felt that way about our QB since Chad (pre 3 rotator cuffs)
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 22, 2023, 08:26:54 PM
There’s a lot of opportunity here. I haven’t seen this level of professionalism in a Jets team since… I’ve been alive?
Saleh is a massive part of that. But it’s huge to be able to finally have a QB that’s a leader and can also actually lead by example. Prob haven’t felt that way about our QB since Chad (pre 3 rotator cuffs)
I guess picking up the oldest QB on the FA wire and putting him behind a rookie isn't the best way to teach a young QB how to play in the league. Go figure.
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 22, 2023, 11:32:15 PM
we'd have a very solid starting 5, and could then boast of having guys like tippmann or mitchell step in if any of the starters drop. even having two 'depth' pieces like that is something that has been completely foreign to this team for like the last 15 years
Post by: Heismanberg on August 26, 2023, 07:24:26 AM
This is the best article of Rich’s career
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 26, 2023, 06:11:22 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 26, 2023, 06:17:43 PM
I get why Cimini gets some flack but he can be a great storyteller sometimes.
He earns everything he gets.
Post by: Heismanberg on August 26, 2023, 08:29:15 PM
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 26, 2023, 08:48:33 PM
Becton won the RT job per Saleh
freak yeah
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 26, 2023, 08:57:47 PM
Post by: MexJetinBcn on August 27, 2023, 01:15:10 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on August 27, 2023, 11:44:51 PM
A surprise would him being able to keep the weight off and stay healthy.
And being a contract year he should realize that'll probably make a difference of tens of millions of dollars
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 28, 2023, 12:16:00 PM
Post by: reuben on September 08, 2023, 02:57:04 PM
Bad salmon? Mono?
Post by: Johnny English on September 08, 2023, 03:07:39 PM
Post by: steves850 on September 08, 2023, 03:24:43 PM
https://twitter.com/briancoz/status/1700185432581918974 (https://twitter.com/briancoz/status/1700185432581918974)
Bad salmon? Mono?
I spent minutes on this.
(https://i.imgur.com/Yg7KMXp.png)
Post by: Badger on September 08, 2023, 04:16:16 PM
Oh freak off. This guy is less reliable than your average government employee.freak off mate
Post by: Johnny English on September 08, 2023, 04:58:24 PM
freak off mateYou're not an average government employee.
Post by: Badger on September 08, 2023, 05:16:38 PM
You're not an average government employee.Fair
I haven't taken a sick day in at least six months.
Post by: d sw0rdz on September 08, 2023, 10:54:29 PM
Fair
I haven't taken a sick day in at least six months.
it's seeing stuff like this every now and then that reminds me how crappy the 'unspoken' work expectations of the medical field can be
i am entering my 7th year of practice out of med school, and i have only ever used one sick day. a lot of my friends have probably used zero
Post by: dcm1602 on September 09, 2023, 01:50:54 AM
it's seeing stuff like this every now and then that reminds me how crappy the 'unspoken' work expectations of the medical field can be
i am entering my 7th year of practice out of med school, and i have only ever used one sick day. a lot of my friends have probably used zero
Id probably rephrase that as an advanced practice provider or something.
As far as the overwhelming majority of hospital staff are concerned the hospitals/management can go suck a dick. Needing time off requests months in advance and frequently denied is part of life. When I was in the OR you literally had to request time off 6 months in advance or you're getting denied most of the time.
And amusingly sick days are almost always used when you're not actually sic
The one get out of jail free card though is when you're using your sick day because your kid is sick. That excrement never gets questioned or called out. Most of the APPs at my hospital tend to be women in their 30s, so that's always the go to
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 12, 2023, 03:00:53 PM
The double pancake goes crazy
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 13, 2023, 10:23:55 AM
https://x.com/nyjets_media/status/1701681135179223245?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
The double pancake goes crazy
https://x.com/michael_nania/status/1701952236304089185?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Another angle
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 13, 2023, 10:30:48 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 16, 2023, 12:33:27 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 16, 2023, 12:41:50 PM
Post by: Badger on October 16, 2023, 01:10:04 PM
Bro how many pancakes was that lmaoA full stack
Post by: MBGreen on October 16, 2023, 01:12:04 PM
A full stack
Mike Pancake
Post by: reuben on October 16, 2023, 03:27:41 PM
https://twitter.com/baldynfl/status/1713878972042277095?s=46 (https://twitter.com/baldynfl/status/1713878972042277095?s=46)
I thought I saw the finger point live. freaking glorious.
I may have been wrong about Mekhi Becton.
I may have been wrong about Zach Wilson.
17 healthy weeks for Nick Bawden and a 200-yard performance from Dalvin Cook likely incoming.
I'm stacking wrongs and I freaking love it. MORE
Post by: loyaljetsfan on November 21, 2023, 10:51:49 AM
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Jeremy Fowler
#Jets LT Mekhi Becton suffered a grade 1 ankle sprain, expected to miss 1-2 weeks, per source.
Post by: Heismanberg on November 21, 2023, 10:53:44 AM
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Post by: AlioTheFool on November 21, 2023, 12:36:24 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on November 21, 2023, 04:46:50 PM
Well, that sucks. But not as bad as it originally seemed.
In theory, after this week against the fins, we could get back all 3 of Becton, McGovern and Schweitzer. I’m sure we won’t be that lucky, but it could happen. If you got those 3 back, we could improve the line tremendously from what it is, and still be bad.
Post by: Heismanberg on November 21, 2023, 04:50:07 PM
In theory, after this week against the fins, we could get back all 3 of Becton, McGovern and Schweitzer. I’m sure we won’t be that lucky, but it could happen. If you got those 3 back, we could improve the line tremendously from what it is, and still be bad.
That still the worst offensive line in the NFL. That's how bad we are up front.
I know that we've had injuries, but this is more damning for Joe Douglas than the QB debacle in my opinion. He is an offensive line scout. He has signed several washed veterans and missed on every draft pick (except for AVT).
His failure to put together an offensive line elevated his mismanagement of the QB position.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 21, 2023, 04:56:12 PM
That still the worst offensive line in the NFL. That's how bad we are up front.At this point I consider AVT to be on the same level of miss as Becton.
I know that we've had injuries, but this is more damning for Joe Douglas than the QB debacle in my opinion. He is an offensive line scout. He has signed several washed veterans and missed on every draft pick (except for AVT).
His failure to put together an offensive line elevated his mismanagement of the QB position.
This was the one aspect I expected him to have handled and it's been the biggest weakness.
The entire offense has been a joke in terms of the roster but he played freaking OLine. How can he be this bad at putting one together?
Post by: Heismanberg on November 21, 2023, 05:06:49 PM
The entire offense has been a joke in terms of the roster but he played freaking OLine. How can he be this bad at putting one together?
He's too busy flexing his connections around the league by signing vets that used to be good.
Duane Brown
Ryan Kalil
Laurent Duvernay-Tardif
That Saffold signing got actual hype and for what?
This really is starting to feel like Maccagnan all over again. We loved him until we realized everything he was doing made no sense. Douglas doesn't have too many horrendous contracts (Tomlinson and Lazard look bad) but nothing like CJ Mosley and Trumaine Johnson.
Post by: Heismanberg on November 22, 2023, 11:19:09 AM
Respect
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 22, 2023, 11:27:31 AM
https://x.com/RichCimini/status/1727054723445064069?s=20
Respect
Whatever his issues were before, "lazy" and "quitter" aren't really apt criticisms for this season.
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 22, 2023, 11:27:33 AM
https://x.com/RichCimini/status/1727054723445064069?s=20
Respect
I don't know if it's just because he's in a contract year or he's being honest when he's asked that he just wants to play, but this seems like a completely different guy than the past couple of years.
He probably doesn't have a future here, but I'd be happy to give him a one year prove it deal and see what happens next year. But I'd move him to RT permanently.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 29, 2023, 06:57:56 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on December 29, 2023, 07:46:17 AM
At least we can end this debate early. Becton should not be brought back
Yeah. I remember a few weeks ago he was playing ok, but I was thinking we should see how the rest of the season played out. Honestly, I was thinking he'd get injured, not regress. But same result.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 29, 2023, 08:11:39 AM
15 penalties against - 2nd most among OL
Post by: bojanglesman on December 29, 2023, 08:50:52 AM
11 sacks allowed - most in the NFL
15 penalties against - 2nd most among OL
Maybe we should let him balloon back up to 400 lbs. and his sheer size would be hard to get around.
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 29, 2023, 09:58:43 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 29, 2023, 10:43:37 AM
11 sacks allowed - most in the NFL
15 penalties against - 2nd most among OL
3rd-most total pressures allowed (50), and most combined penalties-plus-pressures (66) among all offensive linemen
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 29, 2023, 10:47:00 AM
Post by: d sw0rdz on December 29, 2023, 04:15:55 PM
Last season we were the 10th least penalized team in the league, this season we're one of the most. I'm not saying it's all Becton but he's definitely one of the changes between the two seasons.
There were probably 1-2 penalties called on him that i felt were pansy derriere calls from the refs. Regardless, i am firmly in the do not bring back column. Outside of all of the penalties, he’s been playing like excrement for at least half the season. Did that coincide with his move from RT to LT? I’d like to know but I don’t have enough in me to go back through this excrement season, or think about it any more than i already do
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 29, 2023, 05:43:01 PM
We're going to let him go and someone is going to find a way to maximize his talent.How often does this end up happening?
Feels we say this about every Jets draft bust....but they're usually just busts.
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 29, 2023, 05:57:58 PM
If the Jets bring him back, it should be in a back-up role and he should definitely NOT be handed a starting job. If someone else signs him, hopefully he will contribute to a compensatory pick.
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 29, 2023, 06:49:08 PM
He'll want a change of scenery. So will the Jets. If I'm wrong, I have no problem bringing him in a competition. A former 1st-round pick on a prove-it deal with some theoretical upside makes sense in a competition. But I doubt either party will go for it.
Post by: MexJetinBcn on December 29, 2023, 07:13:58 PM
Post by: Johnny English on December 29, 2023, 07:33:59 PM
Becton ripped the staff before the season in Newsday and then had a terrible season. Good for him for staying on the field, but staying on the field and playing horribly isn't much better than just being injured.
He'll want a change of scenery. So will the Jets. If I'm wrong, I have no problem bringing him in a competition. A former 1st-round pick on a prove-it deal with some theoretical upside makes sense in a competition. But I doubt either party will go for it.
Agree with all this. I suspect he'll want a premium from us to consider staying, and we'll want a discount from him to consider keeping him, so a parting seems inevitable and best for all concerned.
Post by: Heismanberg on March 13, 2024, 10:40:30 PM
Visiting the Bengals
Good riddance
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 13, 2024, 10:57:20 PM
https://x.com/kelseylconway/status/1768119418934944188?s=46&t=5ospF-7U7rY0VTGIg3PZLg
Visiting the Bengals
Good riddance
I wonder if with some better coaching and a permanent move to RT helps him have a decent career.
Post by: Heismanberg on March 13, 2024, 11:20:28 PM
I wonder if with some better coaching and a permanent move to RT helps him have a decent career.
Dude, c’mon
He didn’t work out here because he barely played. It wasn’t coaching. He was made of glass.
Post by: MexJetinBcn on March 14, 2024, 04:30:36 AM
Post by: Libero_2 on March 14, 2024, 05:22:58 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on March 14, 2024, 09:00:37 AM
I’m pretty sure he didn’t even try to be coached. He didn’t improve an iota since he arrived. I want him out asap.
"I got hurt when I played left tackle because the coaches talked about moving me to right tackle!"
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 14, 2024, 11:42:10 AM
Dude, c’mon
He didn’t work out here because he barely played. It wasn’t coaching. He was made of glass.
He played 16 games this year. I don't really care if he returns or not, but I think everyone's anger at his attitude clouds judgment.
Now if you want to say he's mentally soft, I don't have a counterargument at all. Raw deal or not, this is football. Suck it up cupcake.
Post by: Heismanberg on March 14, 2024, 11:47:24 AM
He played 16 games this year.
for the first time in four seasons
he is not dependable
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 14, 2024, 11:59:43 AM
for the first time in four seasons
he is not dependable
I looked at it as a guy on the upswing. But again, I don't care whether he returns or not. And he certainly hasn't showed he's matured mentally.
Post by: reuben on March 14, 2024, 01:49:34 PM
He played 16 games this year. I don't really care if he returns or not, but I think everyone's anger at his attitude clouds judgment.
I'm not angry. He's bad, he's soft, he's gone. Nothing to be angry about.
Post by: MexJetinBcn on March 14, 2024, 03:32:44 PM
for the first time in four seasons
he is not dependable
And he was also terrible. The only good thing that could be said about him is that he actually played this time.
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2024, 06:22:58 PM