Jet Offensive
New York Jets Football => ...And The Home Of The Jets => Topic started by: SixFeetDeep on March 14, 2020, 01:40:06 PM
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@AdamSchefter: NFL continues to say it’s business as usual and new league will start this week.
Multiple team officials express widespread skepticism that the NFL can start its league year this week, when our country is in crisis and so much - travel, visits, physicals - would have to happen.
Let’s Go
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Just make new contracts conditional on passing a physical once the travel restrictions are lifted. Doesn't seem difficult to me.
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Just make new contracts conditional on passing a physical once the travel restrictions are lifted. Doesn't seem difficult to me.
That can seriously freak you over
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That can seriously freak you over
Potentially it could, although how many significant FA deals fail at the physical? I feel like it isn't a lot.
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Aldon Smith has applied for reinstatement. If he's dried out and healthy, I'd totally give him a shot - he'd be cheap and I think he'd be a freaking monster in Gregg's defense, and I think it would be the right environment for him.
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Aldon Smith has applied for reinstatement. If he's dried out and healthy, I'd totally give him a shot - he'd be cheap and I think he'd be a freaking monster in Gregg's defense, and I think it would be the right environment for him.
Adam's and cj should be able to keep him straight. You would think
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Twitter rumors....
NFL draft to be delayed to May and Vegas is no longer happening.
Sigh for delays to figuring it all out
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I don't want anything to do with Aldon Smith. Struggling with alcoholism doesn't make you an poopchute but habitually driving around shitfaced certainly does.
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Twitter rumors....
NFL draft to be delayed to May and Vegas is no longer happening.
Sigh for delays to figuring it all out
Shutting down disney world... okay whatever
NBA season suspended... damn that's crazy, but the knicks suck
NFL free agency and draft being pushed back... corona you've gone too far. We need to solve this excrement yesterday
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Twitter rumors....
NFL draft to be delayed to May and Vegas is no longer happening.
Sigh for delays to figuring it all out
Hopefully the delay would be because of scouting/evaluations and not because of the stupid draft event. Just Skype the damn thing.
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Hopefully the delay would be because of scouting/evaluations and not because of the stupid draft event. Just Skype the damn thing.
NFL will cancel if they can’t figure out a way to involve 1,000 pointless people that have nothing to do with the draft and all of the rest of their dumbass introductions and pick announcements
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How will changes to free agency and the draft change the way teams go about the offseason? Is there anything that seems like an apparent logical change to teams line of thinking?
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Robby Anderson
@chosen1ra
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All 32 my door wide open
Rocket emoji
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Douglas probably gave him as price and told him to go find one better
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Douglas probably gave him as price and told him to go find one better
I agree. Douglas told him this is the max we will pay. If you can find better let us know.
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#Ravens are giving C Matt Skura the low tender as a restricted free agent. On his way back from a significant knee injury but he was their starter. No compensation for Baltimore if someone signs him and they don't match.
Don't know him but Ravens/Douglas/we need a center
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The #Patriots with an interesting move: They are franchise tagging standout Joe Thuney. This allows them to keep him… or trade him.
excrement
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The #Patriots with an interesting move: They are franchise tagging standout Joe Thuney. This allows them to keep him… or trade him.
excrement
Unexpected. Gotta be a last ditch ploy to keep Brady.
That said it’s now all in on Glasgow and Conklin for me
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Conklin and Glasgow's agents:
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Unexpected. Gotta be a last ditch ploy to keep Brady.
That said it’s now all in on Glasgow and Conklin for me
OL tag value is $16M, that's half of the Patriots' available cap space currently. I can't believe they want him to actually sign it.
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OL tag value is $16M, that's half of the Patriots' available cap space currently. I can't believe they want him to actually sign it.
they'll try to facilitate a trade
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they'll try to facilitate a trade
I'm out of the loop on this stuff. Basically this means that any team that wants him has to pay $16 million for 1 year AND give the Pats picks? I hope no one signs him. Don't give those fuckers anything. A gord isn't worth that.
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I'm out of the loop on this stuff. Basically this means that any team that wants him has to pay $16 million for 1 year AND give the Pats picks? I hope no one signs him. Don't give those fuckers anything. A gord isn't worth that.
A trade will only happen with an agreement to a new contract in place, so once the deal is agreed he'll sign the tag, the trade is completed, then they sign the long term deal and get rid of the tag deal. I think that's the order of how things work.
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A trade will only happen with an agreement to a new contract in place, so once the deal is agreed he'll sign the tag, the trade is completed, then they sign the long term deal and get rid of the tag deal. I think that's the order of how things work.
Oh Ok.
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I have a feeling Jets fans will be bored with our free agency haul.
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A trade will only happen with an agreement to a new contract in place, so once the deal is agreed he'll sign the tag, the trade is completed, then they sign the long term deal and get rid of the tag deal. I think that's the order of how things work.
Agreed with the order here.
But this means Thuney won’t be playing in the AFCE next season.
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I have a feeling Jets fans will be bored with our free agency haul.
Same here. We are not a premier destination at all.
- Unstable franchise
- Perennial loser
- poopchute at HC
- Insane cost of living and taxes in NJ
The only way we land a premier FA is to overpay...and based on Joe D's MO, that's unlikely.
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Rumors on Jordan Jenkins to Giants. Douglas had a whole year to watch these players up close. Maybe he thinks he isn't worth the payday because he's been getting lots of coverage sacks. I think Jordan Jenkins is a solid OLB, but someone will pay him as a good pass rusher.
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Cooper hitting free agency will obviously directly impact Robbie's market. Not a bad thing.
Of course we could just tell Robbie GTFO for his 12 and offer Coop 18 per.
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Cooper hitting free agency will obviously directly impact Robbie's market. Not a bad thing.
Of course we could just tell Robbie GTFO for his 12 and offer Coop 18 per.
If Robby is at 12 I think the Jets are in on that. I think someone will pay more.
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Miami Dolphins agree to terms with Ereck Flowers $30M over 3 years with $19.95M fully guaranteed per his agent @RosenhausSports.
This could take them our of the Glasgow running...good for us
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This could take them our of the Glasgow running...good for us
Or they could sign both
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Or they could sign both
Same ol' Jets mentality...but probably likely
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Connor Hughes reporting the Jets have spent considerable time with Phillip Dorsett.
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Connor Hughes reporting the Jets have spent considerable time with Phillip Dorsett.
I can’t see us agreeing to terms with Dorset until Robbie officially flies the coop
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I can’t see us agreeing to terms with Dorset until Robbie officially flies the coop
Unless they already know they aren't willing to get close to what he wants.
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Hearing Jordan Jenkins' market hovering around $13 million right now, and my guess would be that is higher than NYG want to go. We'll see how things shake out.
Lawl.
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Surprised we haven’t locked in Conklin or Glasgow at this point. But glad we appear to be pushing the OL market hard
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Surprised we haven’t locked in Conklin or Glasgow at this point. But glad we appear to be pushing the OL market hard
Takes time for multiple bids to settle out.
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Connor Hughes reporting the Jets have spent considerable time with Phillip Dorsett.
Glad to see we're really trying to upgrade Sam's supporting cast...
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I don't want Philip Dorsett.
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Former Seahawks’ OT George Fant reached agreement with the Jets on a three-year, $30 million deal that includes $13.7 million guaranteed, per @JFowlerESPN and me.
Schefter
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I don't want Philip Dorsett.
Does anyone?
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For a guy who ran a 4.33 in college and was a 1st-round pick, Dorsett is pretty unexciting. Clearly, Belichick liked him enough to trade for him and even give him a one-year extension last season.
Dorsett, Demaryius and Berrios basically would give us the 3rd-quarter preseason Patriots from last season.
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That would be a very underwhelming WR corps. But don’t forget the shattered skeleton of Enunwa.
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It’s pretty disappointing that we’re getting completely outclassed by the Dolphins and Bills so far. It’s a long way to go this offseason, but I was really hoping we could upgrade the OL and that’s out the door.
Need to bring back Robbie (freak Dorsett)
Bring back Poole
DFJ at Edge? Clowney?
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It’s pretty disappointing that we’re getting completely outclassed by the Dolphins and Bills so far.
Outclassed? The Dolphins had the most cap space in the NFL. They were going to bring in a lot of high priced players.
Cleveland proved to everyone last year that you don't win in the offseason.
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It’s pretty disappointing that we’re getting completely outclassed by the Dolphins and Bills so far. It’s a long way to go this offseason, but I was really hoping we could upgrade the OL and that’s out the door.
Need to bring back Robbie (freak Dorsett)
Bring back Poole
DFJ at Edge? Clowney?
I’m not worried about the Bills. As long as Allen is their QB they will always be fools gold. As for Miami, most of their deals are drastic overpays and while they will pay dividends next season, in two years those deals will be part of what is holding them back from really competing. Asssuming they get the QB right, which I’m not convinced that they will.
As for us, the only two guys that went today we could have really used were Conklin and Glasgow. We didn’t want to go that high for Glasgow, and we signed Fant after Conklin moved on. Conklin is a better player (for sure) but that’s not the move we apparently wanted.
Everyone else, Jones/Bradberry included were guys we could only take at a “discount” and that’s just not happening in FA at this point.
Tomorrow we will make some under the radar moves and likely start trying to bring back guys like Poole and Robby now that they have seen what offers are out there for them.
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Graham Glasgow going to Denver stings. Nothing else matters.
Douglas needs to go get Van Roten on the cheap now.
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McGovern not getting resigned. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Douglas take a swipe at him.
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https://twitter.com/legerdouzable/status/1239963870661210112?s=21
Renowned football mind Leger Douzable
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I may be the only one that thinks the Dolphins will be pretty good next year.
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I may be the only one that thinks the Dolphins will be pretty good next year.
You’re not the only one.
The draft for them this year is huge. They have 12 total picks, including 3 1st rounders. 2 2nds and 3 5ths.
And then 2 1sts and 2 2nds in 2021.
If they hit on a QB they could have this thing turned around really quickly. Very impressive when you consider they started this rebuild just over a year ago when they fired Adam Gase.
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We really need to hit on this draft. If we do what we normally do in the middle rounds we're going to be buried in the bottom of the division.
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We really need to hit on this draft. If we do what we normally do in the middle rounds we're going to be buried in the bottom of the division.
As has been the case for over a decade. The only way to fix bad drafting is over spending in FA.
It’s a big reason why I always advocate trading down. This year I think we should stand pat at 11 if one of the OTs is there. If they aren’t and we can move, great. If not take the best guy to fix one of our problems.
I’d still probably put 48 up for sale though. Slide back and get as many extra lottery tickets as possible. I think a ton of great players will get drafted in the 3-4 rounds.
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We really need to hit on this draft. If we do what we normally do in the middle rounds we're going to be buried in the bottom of the division.
QFT for the middle rounds part
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I'm ok with moving up from 11 if the OT we want can be had. With our QB in place it's worth doing.
As for the middle rounds and our recent history, we have to hang our hats on the fact that it's Douglas' first crack at it. Yeah, we say that with every new GM but Idzik and Macc's failures don't lie with Douglas.
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I'm ok with moving up from 11 if the OT we want can be had. With our QB in place it's worth doing.
As for the middle rounds and our recent history, we have to hang our hats on the fact that it's Douglas' first crack at it. Yeah, we say that with every new GM but Idzik and Macc's failures don't lie with Douglas.
If the Jets refrain from filling holes in FA (and yes, i realize it's day 1), we absolutely shouldn't spend draft capital to move up.
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You’re not the only one.
The draft for them this year is huge. They have 12 total picks, including 3 1st rounders. 2 2nds and 3 5ths.
And then 2 1sts and 2 2nds in 2021.
If they hit on a QB they could have this thing turned around really quickly. Very impressive when you consider they started this rebuild just over a year ago when they fired Adam Gase.
So you're saying we're 2 years behind the Fins?
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I don't think there is anyone we should move up for. We have so many needs across the roster, starters and backups, that we need all the players we can get.
I never want to see Darryl Roberts on the field again.
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I don't think there is anyone we should move up for. We have so many needs across the roster, starters and backups, that we need all the players we can get.
I never want to see Darryl Roberts on the field again.
I never want to see Bryan Winters either, but all indications are that he's coming back.
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If the Jets refrain from filling holes in FA (and yes, i realize it's day 1), we absolutely shouldn't spend draft capital to move up.
Didn't everyone already know we weren't going to be huge day one players in FA and probably be a secondary player? Pretty sure I've been seeing that since the season ended.
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Didn't everyone already know we weren't going to be huge day one players in FA and probably be a secondary player? Pretty sure I've been seeing that since the season ended.
You haven't been here since the season ended, remember?
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https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1239989398860640256?s=21
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You haven't been here since the season ended, remember?
There's other places to get information about the Jets. Maybe that's what you're doing wrong.
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https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1239989398860640256?s=21
Oh the irony of Matt Millen judging someone GM abilities...
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https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1239989398860640256?s=21
Presumably we're not making major signings this season so that next year after [event redacted for ItalianSeafood], we'll have a buttload of cap space for the next [person redacted for ItalianSeafood].
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Oh the irony of Matt Millen judging someone GM abilities...
Lol its Matt Miller, but your post reminded me of the time Millen called Jaws a polack on ESPN during their draft coverage, so thanks for the laugh.
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There's other places to get information about the Jets. Maybe that's what you're doing wrong.
The only thing i've done wrong, and i can't stress this enough, is try to educate you. #LostCause
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I'm just not a fan of the way we're conducting free agency this season. All's well and good with not overspending on free agents, but we have two more years of Darnold's rookie contract where we can take on excess salary. See the Ravens taking on Calais Campbell or the Cards taking on Nuk Hopkins. Doesn't necessarily have to be something that splashy, and again it's still early so Douglas can prove me wrong depending on what we do, but not signing/trading for an impact player when we have the space to would imo be disappointing. And no, George Fant doesn't count.
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According to Manish, Jets have expressed interest in Matt Moore.
Would love to bring him in as Sam's backup.
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According to Manish, Jets have expressed interest in Matt Moore.
Would love to bring him in as Sam's backup.
It would be a good signing. He's competent, knows the system.
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I'm just not a fan of the way we're conducting free agency this season. All's well and good with not overspending on free agents, but we have two more years of Darnold's rookie contract where we can take on excess salary. See the Ravens taking on Calais Campbell or the Cards taking on Nuk Hopkins. Doesn't necessarily have to be something that splashy, and again it's still early so Douglas can prove me wrong depending on what we do, but not signing/trading for an impact player when we have the space to would imo be disappointing. And no, George Fant doesn't count.
Or draft a good LT who goes on a rookie contract and use the money not committed to an overpriced aging LT for Darnold when the time comes.
A lot of different ways to do it.
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It would be a good signing. He's competent, knows the system.
He's also old and was retired for a season and a half before coming back in to back up Mahomes last year, I don't know if he even saw the field. Did they rest starters? Given our line will likely be derriere next season we need someone capable of actually playing when Sam inevitably gets injured.
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He's also old and was retired for a season and a half before coming back in to back up Mahomes last year, I don't know if he even saw the field. Did they rest starters? Given our line will likely be derriere next season we need someone capable of actually playing when Sam inevitably gets injured.
Granted it was in the most souped up offense known to man, but he actually played well last year when filling in for Pat.
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He's also old and was retired for a season and a half before coming back in to back up Mahomes last year, I don't know if he even saw the field. Did they rest starters? Given our line will likely be derriere next season we need someone capable of actually playing when Sam inevitably gets injured.
Kinda hoping we bring back Luke Falk and watch Gase go down with his ship
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Granted it was in the most souped up offense known to man, but he actually played well last year when filling in for Pat.
I don't want to get into a larger argument about the current Jets coach but he wouldn't be playing for Andy Reid this year. I am sorry but that's not even close to a subtle difference.
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I don't want to get into a larger argument about the current Jets coach but he wouldn't be playing for Andy Reid this year. I am sorry but that's not even close to a subtle difference.
True, but the last time he played under Gase he helped steward the Phins towards a playoff birth.
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True, but the last time he played under Gase he helped steward the Phins towards a playoff birth.
That's true as well so there's some give or take here. lol
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Granted it was in the most souped up offense known to man, but he actually played well last year when filling in for Pat.
Presumably Gase released him at the end of 2017, why would he want him back in 2020 if he thought he wasn't good enough to back up Tannehill in 2018?
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I'm hoping our backup QB is a non factor this season.
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I'm hoping our backup QB is a non factor this season.
Joe Douglas will draft a QB in the 3rd just so he can read the shitposts on this site
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Why is Brian Poole still a FA
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Why is Brian Poole still a FA
Nickel/slot cb and its less than 30 hours into FA?
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Why is Brian Poole still a FA
Nickel/slot cb and its less than 30 hours into FA?
This. Gotta imagine you'll see Chris Harris and Nickell Robey-Coleman find homes before Poole does.
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Quite a few starting-quality corners still available.
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Leonard Floyd had 1 less QB Pressure and 1 less QB Knockdown than Yannick Ngakoue this season
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Leonard Floyd had 1 less QB Pressure and 1 less QB Knockdown than Yannick Ngakoue this season
Sign this beast
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Clowney's market apparently hasn't developed like he would've hoped.
I'm sure Robby is in a similar situation or we'd have at least heard about the teams sniffing around on him.
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Clowney's market apparently hasn't developed like he would've hoped.
I'm sure Robby is in a similar situation or we'd have at least heard about the teams sniffing around on him.
Shocker that no one is lining up to pay the EDGE player who managed 3 sacks in 11 starts last season, plagued by multiple injuries. I wouldn’t be surprised if he wound up back in Seattle on a disappointing (for him) deal.
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Clowney's market apparently hasn't developed like he would've hoped.
I'm sure Robby is in a similar situation or we'd have at least heard about the teams sniffing around on him.
Can't comment about Clowney...but the draft is loaded with WRs, so Robby's price should come down.
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Can't comment about Clowney...but the draft is loaded with WRs, so Robby's price should come down.
That and he's a suspension waiting to happen. And has 3 brain cells. Still want him back though.
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That and he's a suspension waiting to happen. And has 3 brain cells.
Is he though? He's not done a thing wrong since the whole "ima nut in your wife's eye" thing. That's a couple of years ago now, we must at some point be able to put that down to the idiocy of a young man figuring out what it's like to be a wealthy and relatively high profile athlete.
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Is he though? He's not done a thing wrong since the whole "ima nut in your wife's eye" thing. That's a couple of years ago now, we must at some point be able to put that down to the idiocy of a young man figuring out what it's like to be a wealthy and relatively high profile athlete.
Hey, I'm just trying to dishonestly spread misinformation to lower his value. Is there anything wrong with that?
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Hey, I'm just trying to dishonestly spread misinformation to lower his value. Is there anything wrong with that?
You're right, it's important that we ensure that the GMs from the other 31 teams who read Jet Offensive get duff information upon which to base their free agency decisions.
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You're right, it's important that we ensure that the GMs from the other 31 teams who read Jet Offensive get duff information upon which to base their free agency decisions.
Hey Charlie Casserly, if you're reading this-eat excrement you lowlife scumbag.
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You're right, it's important that we ensure that the GMs from the other 31 teams who read Jet Offensive get duff information upon which to base their free agency decisions.
You're right. I'll go to tgg and mention it too.
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You're right. I'll go to tgg and mention it too.
make sure you wash your hands thoroughly before you come back...thanks babbie
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You're right, it's important that we ensure that the GMs from the other 31 teams who read Jet Offensive get duff information upon which to base their free agency decisions.
It always worked with Tannenbaum
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Free agency opened 10 minutes ago and no players announced. What are you doing, Jets?
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Have to think that Robby Anderson is Joe's top target right now.
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Sign Robby and Dorsett
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I'd like Robby back on a low-ball deal. Dorsett doesn't really appeal to me; just a poor man's Vyyyyyt Syyyyh.
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I want robby and funchess on a cheap 1 year deal.
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I want robby and funchess on a cheap 1 year deal.
Why do you want Funchess? He's terrible
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Why do you want Funchess? He's terrible
Sam does well with big body recievers and his play fits well with a guy who can make contested catches. We have none.
Funchess is good at boxing out and using his body. Yes he's only played well in spurts but he will be super cheap.
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Sam does well with big body recievers and his play fits well with a guy who can make contested catches. We have none.
Funchess is good at boxing out and using his body. Yes he's only played well in spurts but he will be super cheap.
I'd honestly rather have DT back than Funchess. At least there's a comfort level with both the quarterback and the offense.
I get what you're saying, especially with a big question mark around Enunwa, there isn't a lot of physicality in this receiving core.
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Sam does well with big body recievers and his play fits well with a guy who can make contested catches. We have none.
Funchess is good at boxing out and using his body. Yes he's only played well in spurts but he will be super cheap.
There are a bunch of those type of receivers in the draft that will be far better long term for Sam than Funchess
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Sam does well with big body recievers and his play fits well with a guy who can make contested catches. We have none.
Funchess is good at boxing out and using his body. Yes he's only played well in spurts but he will be super cheap.
Chase Claypool
https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/ny-jets-chase-claypool-nfl-draft-meeting-cancelled
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I'd honestly rather have DT back than Funchess. At least there's a comfort level with both the quarterback and the offense.
Meh DT looked like he didn't want to be out there during some games. I think he will retire
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There are a bunch of those type of receivers in the draft that will be far better long term for Sam than Funchess
Which is why I said sign him to a 1 year deal
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#Jets did not extend tenders to CB Arthur Maulet and LB James Burgess
Thought both of these guys overperformed last year and would be worth bringing back in backup roles
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rumor has it we are now kicking tires on Ngakoue.
Apparently we want a big time pass rusher, but at less than whatever Fowler got paid. I have no idea how we can think we can get Yannick for that price.
But hey let’s do it JD.
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Snacks still available. Do itttttt.
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https://twitter.com/_bigplayslay23/status/1240440409328881664?s=21
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rumor has it we are now kicking tires on Ngakoue.
Apparently we want a big time pass rusher, but at less than whatever Fowler got paid. I have no idea how we can think we can get Yannick for that price.
But hey let’s do it JD.
Who is saying this?
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Who is saying this?
Incarcerated Bob
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Incarcerated Bob
A better source than Justin Gray
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A better source than Justin Gray
Is that the guy from 50 shades?
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Is that the guy from 50 shades?
No, but he has two dogs
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No, but he has two dogs
Is that good?
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Is that good?
Twice as reputable than a single dog owner.
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Disappointed that no one commented that we released Trumaine Johnson this afternoon. Didn't see that coming.
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Disappointed that no one commented that we released Trumaine Johnson this afternoon. Didn't see that coming.
Like 4:05 pm. I wonder what took so long.
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Like 4:05 pm. I wonder what took so long.
He was a June 1 cut
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Seattle began Thursday the way it began Wednesday, Tuesday, the week, the month—heck, the offseason: waiting for Clowney to decide if he wants to stay or go. The three-time Pro Bowl edge rusher has been weighing offers from multiple teams, believed to include the New York Jets and Tennessee Titans, in addition to the Seahawks.
Gregggg Bell
Seattle News Tribune
https://amp.thenewstribune.com/sports/nfl/seattle-seahawks/article241326776.html?__twitter_impression=true
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Impossible to tell how up to date it is, but Overthecap.com has:
Jets: $36M
Titans: $35M
Seahawks: $18M
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Maulet returns on a 1 yr deal.
Nice depth. But we aren't seriously relying on him and Austin to be are starters...are we?!
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Maulet returns on a 1 yr deal.
Nice depth. But we aren't seriously relying on him and Austin to be are starters...are we?!
Let’s Go
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I'll take Maulet over Roberts all day
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I'll take Maulet over Roberts all day
And I’ll take Bless over Trumaine Johnson all day
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I'll take Maulet over Roberts all day
I feel like Roberts is playing the wrong position. He's fast, can tackle and has ball skills, he just loses all track of what's going on when he has to turn his back to the QB. I almost want to see him at safety except I still wouldn't trust him to be smart enough to read the game.
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I feel like Roberts is playing the wrong position. He's fast, can tackle and has ball skills, he just loses all track of what's going on when he has to turn his back to the QB. I almost want to see him at safety except I still wouldn't trust him to be smart enough to read the game.
He’s played safety for us before and he’s much better at corner. I believe he was filling in when Maye was out.
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I feel like Roberts is playing the wrong position. He's fast, can tackle and has ball skills, he just loses all track of what's going on when he has to turn his back to the QB. I almost want to see him at safety except I still wouldn't trust him to be smart enough to read the game.
We don't need him to play safety. He started some games for us at safety already and wasn't very good.
The ball skills come with being able to locate the football with your back turned and he just can't seem to do that consistently.
He makes way too much money to be a depth corner or safety. He's being paid like a starter and needs to be canned.
We can sign a UDFA or a bottom level free agent as a third safety or dime corner. He is very unimportant to this team. Maccagnan whiffed on the CB market and panicked with that signing.
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I agree, I just think that there might actually be some use in there for someone. Maybe in the slot where he can spend more time looking upfield. He's not a complete talent vacuum, he just isn't worth anything like the $6M we're paying him.
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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The #Jets have agreed to terms with and are re-signing LB Neville Hewitt.
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Good.
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The end of Avery Williamson?
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Aaron Neville: 1 year 2 million.
(https://a1-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/116/82ae29a22ff64adfa4bfa004f186bfab/full.jpg)
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Happy to have him back. We're solid at MLB and now have flexibility for a trade of Williamson
Also, reason why PFF sucks
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETk28iMXsAEATas?format=png&name=small)
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Happy to have him back. We're solid at MLB and now have flexibility for a trade of Williamson
Also, reason why PFF sucks
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETk28iMXsAEATas?format=png&name=small)
I thought Hewitt was our best LB last season (not counting Mosely). To get him back for that price is great.
I don’t think Williamson is going to get cut. If we can trade him, I think we would take the asset, but if not I think we will keep him and expect him to start.
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Spotrac has us at $37M and change for cap space, 6th most in the league. Unless they're planning a big splash still like a Trent Williams trade, it's time to pay the Pres. Load him up this year with a bunch of money and take advantage of the space while we have it, because next year we have to get Sam paid.
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Still waiting fir Roberts to hit Free Agency.
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Spotrac has us at $37M and change for cap space, 6th most in the league. Unless they're planning a big splash still like a Trent Williams trade, it's time to pay the Pres. Load him up this year with a bunch of money and take advantage of the space while we have it, because next year we have to get Sam paid.
Let’s let the Clowney/Yannick situations resolve first.
But I’m slightly curious how to structure a deal for Adams, he has 2 years remaining, do we frontload it to cover most of the money this year? Have a low-pay year next year (not changing his salary from current) and then ramp up again in year 3?
I don’t want to mess with his salary the next two years. Why pay up before we have to? Especially when you can be certain we plan to pay Maye next year (his deal actually is up) and hopefully Sam balls out and proves he should be the first $150 million dollar man.
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Spotrac has us at $37M and change for cap space, 6th most in the league. Unless they're planning a big splash still like a Trent Williams trade, it's time to pay the Pres. Load him up this year with a bunch of money and take advantage of the space while we have it, because next year we have to get Sam paid.
Douglas is probably waiting for Trumaine Johnson's hit to come off after June 1st.
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The XFL has canceled the rest of its season and is permitting players to begin signing with NFL teams on March 23rd.
Some notables include QB P.J. Walker and WR Cam Phillips, who had 455 receiving yard and 9 TD in just five games.
-Yates
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Wouldn't mind kicking the tires on Emmanuel Sanders.
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The XFL has canceled the rest of its season and is permitting players to begin signing with NFL teams on March 23rd.
Some notables include QB P.J. Walker and WR Cam Phillips, who had 455 receiving yard and 9 TD in just five games.
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Anyone reading Italian Seafood in the XFL thread knew this.
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Pierre Desir was released by the Colts. I'd take him over Amukamara.
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Pierre Desir was released by the Colts. I'd take him over Amukamara.
I hope JD is on the phone with his agent already. He got cut from a deal that would pay him $6.5 million this year. Seems we could get him for less than what we currently owe Roberts.
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The #Jets are signing C/G Josh Andrews, according to his agent @TesslerSports. Played six games with the Colts last year. Played previously with the Eagles.
Depth I guess.
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I would imagine this isn’t much above vet minimum
But I don’t know the guy at all
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The #Jets are signing C/G Josh Andrews, according to his agent @TesslerSports. Played six games with the Colts last year. Played previously with the Eagles.
Depth I guess.
Probably Tom Compton's replacement as interior depth
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I’m all for signing and drafting as many OL as possible and just having them compete for the starting 5
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Source: Jets have agreed to a one-year deal with former Rams safety Marqui Christian.
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Jets release Darryl Roberts.
Wonder if we are near signing a corner.
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Source: Jets have agreed to a one-year deal with former Rams safety Marqui Christian.
Hopefully this means the end of Rontez Miles
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The #Jets have released CB Darryl Roberts, the team announced. Saves them $6M on the cap. Had to do it today or else $2M of his salary would’ve become fully guaranteed.
I guess this is why.
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Hopefully this means the end of Rontez Miles
Are we trading Jamal?
/dcmmode
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Are we trading Jamal?
/dcmmode
Sources tell me that Joe Douglas is working on a monster trade that will surprise a lot of people.
/justingray
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The Jets have agreed to a 1-year deal with Rams safety Marqui Christian, per source. It is for $1.25 million with a chance to become $2 million. #nyj
Particulars
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If anyone needs a laugh
https://beargoggleson.com/2020/03/20/chicago-bears-rumors-trade-jamal-adams/
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I saw two very positive tweets about Josh Andrews. Then I realized one was by his agent.
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Hopefully this means the end of Rontez Miles
Mega-head replaced by Tiny-head.
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If anyone needs a laugh
https://beargoggleson.com/2020/03/20/chicago-bears-rumors-trade-jamal-adams/
thanks, now I have cancer, not just the coronavirus
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If anyone needs a laugh
https://beargoggleson.com/2020/03/20/chicago-bears-rumors-trade-jamal-adams/
Hey, good for Rob Schwarz that he can write and post on some Fansided site despite the obstacles of having never watched an actual NFL game along with clearly having Down Syndrome.
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Hey, good for Rob Schwarz that he can write and post on some Fansided site despite the obstacles of having never watched an actual NFL game along with clearly having Down Syndrome.
Those are some major obstacles.
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Marqui Christian played for Gregg during his rookie season
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We signed Greg Van Roten per Schefter
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We signed Greg Van Roten per Schefter
3 yr deal according to rapsheet
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Bye Winters
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Winters is going.
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We re-signed James Burgess
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Manish is reporting that we're close to re-signing Jordan Jenkins
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Manish is reporting that we're close to re-signing Jordan Jenkins
1 year deal. Interesting how he and likely Robby tested the market and came crawling back.
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We re-signed James Burgess
Wonder if we're gonna let go of Williamson now. Hewitt, Burgess and Cashman basically covered for him more than adequately last year for a portion of the cost.
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Wonder if we're gonna let go of Williamson now. Hewitt, Burgess and Cashman basically covered for him more than adequately last year for a portion of the cost.
At least gives the freedom to do so if needed.
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Manish is reporting that we're close to re-signing Jordan Jenkins
Have to wonder if Doug felt like the other pass rushers would be overpaid and the market for Jenkins was overrated. I think Jenkins is overrated as a pass rusher but he's a solid OLB. Calvin Pace Jr.
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At least gives the freedom to do so if needed.
I think we would only move him (at this point) if we are offered a solid deal in a trade.
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It would be sort of funny if Manish is wrong and the only one reporting on Jenkins. No one else has yet.
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We re-signed James Burgess
I could have sworn I saw on roto someone signed him over the weekend
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1 year deal. Interesting how he and likely Robby tested the market and came crawling back.
Broke: Free Agents don’t want to play for Gase
Woke: No one wants to sign our players after Gase ruined them
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Broke: Free Agents don’t want to play for Gase
Woke: No one wants to sign our players after Gase ruined them
Joke: Gase killed a guy once.
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Broke: Free Agents don’t want to play for Gase
Woke: No one wants to sign our players after Gase ruined them
Bespoke: Gase invented the coronavirus to get all our players back at a discount
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I could have sworn I saw on roto someone signed him over the weekend
That was probably Neville Hewitt
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Wonder if we're gonna let go of Williamson now. Hewitt, Burgess and Cashman basically covered for him more than adequately last year for a portion of the cost.
CJ Mosley
Avery Williamson
Neville Hewitt
James Burgess
Blake Cashman
I think we could keep all of them because Hewitt, Burgess, and Cashman play special teams. But I wouldn't be shocked if Williamson is let go to make room to sign some other positions.
Gregg Williams LOVES James Burgess.
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Jenkins signed a 1 year, $5M deal
We still have about $41M or so according to the numbers Albert Breer posted this afternoon.
GO GET ROBBY
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Jenkins signed a 1 year, $5M deal
We still have about $41M or so according to the numbers Albert Breer posted this afternoon.
GO GET ROBBY
Couple days ago we were at $32 or so. Since they we cut Roberts, signed GVR, Desir, Burgess and now Jenkins.
I have to believe one of those numbers is inaccurate. Either way, I think we are bidding against ourselves for Robbie. Once he decides he is tired of waiting, and agrees to JDs terms, it will happen.
That said, if we really have $40 million on the cap to go, I’d go after Clowney, Robbie and Everson Griffin and wrapping this thing up
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I think we are bidding against ourselves for Robbie
*Robby
I’d go after Clowney, Robbie
*Robby
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*Robby
*Robby
I’m spelling as well as Robbie/Robby/Robbay does
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Stolen from Twitter:
Joe Douglas offering low-ball contracts to our pending free agents
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET0t4XaX0AEqAbr?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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Stolen from Twitter:
Joe Douglas offering low-ball contracts to our pending free agents
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET0t4XaX0AEqAbr?format=jpg&name=900x900)
You stole that from a prepubescent teen or Insanity, yippee.
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You stole that from a prepubescent teen
He did say Twitter
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Stolen from Twitter:
Joe Douglas offering low-ball contracts to our pending free agents
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET0t4XaX0AEqAbr?format=jpg&name=900x900)
You've been on point with reposting other peoples post this week.
(From the JD thread)
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The Wade/Lebron Meme with Idzik giving the Alley Oop to Duff is one of the best of all time and aged so so well
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The Wade/Lebron Meme with Idzik giving the Alley Oop to Duff is one of the best of all time and aged so so well
The crazy thing about Maccagnan is that no one hired him when he was let go. Idzik got another job in the league almost immediately.
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The Wade/Lebron Meme with Idzik giving the Alley Oop to Duff is one of the best of all time and aged so so well
In fairness Maccagnan did an awesome job in year 1 with the cap space that Idzik left him. There's a reason he won NFL Exec of the Year in 2015.
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In fairness Maccagnan did an awesome job in year 1 with the cap space that Idzik left him. There's a reason he won NFL Exec of the Year in 2015.
Maccagnan got extremely lucky that Geno Smith got punched in the face and that Ryan Fitzpatrick had a good year.
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trent williams and agent trying to get him released from the redskins
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The crazy thing about Maccagnan is that no one hired him when he was let go. Idzik got another job in the league almost immediately.
I've thought about this a couple of times. From what I remember, Maccagnan was a really respected scout who worked his way up. You'd think he could at least land a job scouting again.
Maybe he made some enemies around the league as Jets GM?
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The crazy thing about Maccagnan is that no one hired him when he was let go.
I never realized/thought about this
Just like most of his busted draft picks
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It could also be that Duff is content with sitting on his derriere collecting his money. As management's contracts are fully guaranteed. He's not going to get anywhere near that money taking a high level scouting position. He gets paid through the year 2020.
Lets do this check after 2020 and see if he gets a job.
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We re-signed DB Bennett Jackson
Solid special teamer that played for us and Baltimore last year
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Dorsett to Seattle.
One of our Robby backup plans is gone
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Dorsett to Seattle.
One of our Robby backup plans is gone
I’m kinda happy about this. Dorsett isn’t close to being as good and wasn’t a very good backup plan.
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Dorsett to Seattle.
One of our Robby backup plans is gone
I wonder if Douglas told him to go elsewhere...
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I wonder how much of a factor coronavirus is going to be for free agents. The situation has gotten a lot more grim, and NY/NJ is the worst hit area of the country.
Either the nfl is going to delay offseason activities/the start of the season. Or NY will still be going through some excrement with people like Cuomo saying this can be an 8 month ordeal for NYers.
Maybe it could just be optics, but Id imagine this is something nfl players (especially with families) could be concerned about
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I wonder how much of a factor coronavirus is going to be for free agents. The situation has gotten a lot more grim, and NY/NJ is the worst hit area of the country.
Either the nfl is going to delay offseason activities/the start of the season. Or NY will still be going through some excrement with people like Cuomo saying this can be an 8 month ordeal for NYers.
Maybe it could just be optics, but Id imagine this is something nfl players (especially with families) could be concerned about
If someone is going to offer you millions of dollars per year to play in NYC you are going to take it. Corona isn’t going to last forever. It will end up being a distant memory in 6 months
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Coronavirus is certainly a factor, but not at all in the way you mention. Guys with medical and personal issues like Clowney and Robby have probably been hurt by it. No face-to-face meetings.
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If someone is going to offer you millions of dollars per year to play in NYC you are going to take it. Corona isn’t going to last forever. It will end up being a distant memory in 6 months
If we're talking 4 or 5 year contracts worth millions more I agree completely.
If we're talking 1-2 year contracts worth the same amount. Then I think someone would seriously reconsider. Since this absolutely will have legit consequences for this nfl season. Probably (in my speculative opinion) affecting the Jets and giants more than any other teams
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If we're talking 4 or 5 year contracts worth millions more I agree completely.
If we're talking 1-2 year contracts worth the same amount. Then I think someone would seriously reconsider. Since this absolutely will have legit consequences for this nfl season. Probably (in my speculative opinion) affecting the Jets and giants more than any other teams
Please explain how it would affect the Jets and Giants more than other teams.
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Please explain how it would affect the Jets and Giants more than other teams.
Jets and Giants are in NY, the worst hit place in the country
Other teams are not (the Bills are basically freaking Canada)
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There won't even be OTAs until the entire situation is resolved.
If the Jets or Giants offer a free agent more money than anyone else that dude isn't worrying about coronavirus when making his decision.
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Stop stop stop stop DCM you're making my head explode with this stupidity.
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The NFL will not punish certain teams and not others. If deemed unsafe to practice or play then they will delay for everyone.
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Jets and Giants are in NY, the worst hit place in the country
Other teams are not (the Bills are basically freaking Canada)
Most NFL teams are in big cities. Most of the country is getting this virus. New York is one of many cities getting hit, even if it's getting hit the worst.
Plus, the Jets and Giants aren't in New York. They're in New Jersey. It's not like the players are trapped in the city. They don't even have to go to the city!
Also, the Jets signed a free agent to a 1-year deal like 2.5 hours later.
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Neville Hewitt’s contract with the #Jets: One year, $2 million. It has a $1 million signing bonus and a $1 million base (not guaranteed).
I'd expect Burgess to have a similar deal
Really want to see Onwuasor's contract
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Are we on the 12th wave of free agency yet?
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-punter-sam-martin-lions-20200327-rqmkifgkivgxji3kepjdhdaztq-story.html
Jets wanted to sign P Sam Martin
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Marqui Christian: no longer a Jet
https://t.co/Pqo8K0BLe1?amp=1
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why god why. oh no.
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“Wait, the coach is who?”
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https://twitter.com/michael_nania/status/1243636200331710465?s=21
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Wonder what happened there.
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Wonder what happened there.
"Wait, you just finished playing for who? No sir, no thank you, sorry to have wasted your time, here's a cheque for the airfare now get out. We're quite done with former Rams DBs for a very long time, please and thank you. GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT!"
Also, he is one truly ugly lover of the older lady.
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I guess that’s a wash if we’re keeping Rontez Miles.
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I guess that’s a wash if we’re keeping Rontez Miles.
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Looks like an iguana and an mantis got together to create an abortion.
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Looks like an iguana and an mantis got together to create an abortion.
As I said previously, he looks like the Predator's retarded younger brother.
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Field Yates,: Official cap space by teams 1-11 (includes moves officially made):
1. HOU: 49,257,819
2. NYJ: 45,016,813
3. CLE: 43,703,760
4. LAC: 37,553,266
5. TEN: 32,509,301
6. WAS: 31,468,435
7. DET: 31,369,450
8. DEN: 29,819,797
9. DAL: 28,560,313
10. PHI: 27,868,177
11. IND: 26,863,345
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Field Yates,: Official cap space by teams 1-11 (includes moves officially made):
1. HOU: 49,257,819
2. NYJ: 45,016,813
3. CLE: 43,703,760
4. LAC: 37,553,266
5. TEN: 32,509,301
6. WAS: 31,468,435
7. DET: 31,369,450
8. DEN: 29,819,797
9. DAL: 28,560,313
10. PHI: 27,868,177
11. IND: 26,863,345
If we have that much cap space left, with the big money market drying up why is everyone worried about carrying Williamson and Mosely's contracts for 2020?
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Field Yates,: Official cap space by teams 1-11 (includes moves officially made):
1. HOU: 49,257,819
2. NYJ: 45,016,813
3. CLE: 43,703,760
4. LAC: 37,553,266
5. TEN: 32,509,301
6. WAS: 31,468,435
7. DET: 31,369,450
8. DEN: 29,819,797
9. DAL: 28,560,313
10. PHI: 27,868,177
11. IND: 26,863,345
That just doesn’t make sense. We spent $30 million on the OL alone how do we still have $50 million left? Something isn’t right with those numbers
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That just doesn’t make sense. We spent $30 million on the OL alone how do we still have $50 million left? Something isn’t right with those numbers
$30 mil this season?
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That just doesn’t make sense. We spent $30 million on the OL alone how do we still have $50 million left? Something isn’t right with those numbers
Jason has it at $32M but Johnson's contract is still there, we lose him June 1st which will add $11M in cap space.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-york-jets/
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If we have that much cap space left, with the big money market drying up why is everyone worried about carrying Williamson and Mosely's contracts for 2020?
I don't think anyone is worried per se, my issue is that it's way too much money being spent on two players coming off serious injuries. I'd much rather see it being used on, say, Trent Williams and a front loaded extension for Adams. Mosley and Williamson are both poor value contracts.
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I don't think anyone is worried per se, my issue is that it's way too much money being spent on two players coming off serious injuries. I'd much rather see it being used on, say, Trent Williams and a front loaded extension for Adams. Mosley and Williamson are both poor value contracts.
Have we been linked to Williams at all at this point? I understand everyone wanting the LT upgrade but I wouldn't start looking to get rid of anyone until JD is actually trying to pull someone in.
My big concern for both of them is exactly what you mentioned: both players coming off of injury. I wouldn't be comfortable dropping one until we see how well their surgeries and rehabs have gone on the field.
Totally agree on Adams' extension.
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I'm really hoping we can sign Clowney to a short-term deal with some of that space
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That just doesn’t make sense. We spent $30 million on the OL alone how do we still have $50 million left? Something isn’t right with those numbers
Jason_OTC
@Jason_OTC
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35m
Many teams have not actually signed deals with the players they signed. Jets in particular have done few officially. NFL cap numbers are only going to reflect official signing of which the jets have very few
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Also why is everyone drooling over the guy with three sacks last season?
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Also why is everyone drooling over the guy with three sacks last season?
3 is pretty good by NY Jets standards.
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Also why is everyone drooling over the guy with three sacks last season?
3 is pretty good by NY Jets standards.
The dumbass has a point. (It's about freaking time)
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Jason_OTC
@Jason_OTC
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35m
Many teams have not actually signed deals with the players they signed. Jets in particular have done few officially. NFL cap numbers are only going to reflect official signing of which the jets have very few
Ok there it is.
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Jason_OTC
@Jason_OTC
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35m
Many teams have not actually signed deals with the players they signed. Jets in particular have done few officially. NFL cap numbers are only going to reflect official signing of which the jets have very few
Yep. Not sure why Yates put out those numbers when they are clearly misleading to dumbasses like me.
OTC: The Jets official signings are Poole, Lewis, Jackson, and Hewitt. The numbers from ESPN would not include McGovern, Fant, Perriman, Maulet, Desir, Andrews, Burgess, Jenkins, and Onwuasor
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Yep. Not sure why Yates out out those numbers when they are clearly misleading to dumbasses like me.
OTC: The Jets official signings are Poole, Lewis, Jackson, and Hewitt. The numbers from ESPN would not include McGovern, Fant, Perriman, Maulet, Desir, Andrews, Burgess, Jenkins, and Onwuasor
What about Van Roten
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What about Van Roten
At this point they are all wrong anyway, so who cares, except dcm.
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Also why is everyone drooling over the guy with three sacks last season?
His underlying stats would suggest that will regress to the mean, much like Vic Beasley's 2016 in reverse
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Also why is everyone drooling over the guy with three sacks last season?
Because he's a dominant edge presence. He is one of the more disruptive players in the game and has to be accounted for on every snap.
If you sign a player like Clowney that is clearly motivated by money on a one year, prove it contract, he will dominate.
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A signing cannot become official until there's a passed physical.
We're in a really tough spot geographically to this stuff done. You have to hope that the players we've added can get physicals completed by doctors outside of the organization.
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What worries me about the NFL Draft being rushed is that medical red flags are not going to be as apparent. In this class, if a prospect had ANY surgeries in college, I wouldn't touch him before the 5th round.
Interviews can be completed through Facetime and other apps, but medical checks and re-checks are concerning to me.
I love the draft more than just about anybody, but it should not be rushed and it's going to be.
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Because he's a dominant edge presence. He is one of the more disruptive players in the game and has to be accounted for on every snap.
If you sign a player like Clowney that is clearly motivated by money on a one year, prove it contract, he will dominate.
I agree with this. The strategy hasn't been a big free agency splash but if that left the money for Clowney it's worth doing. Especially on a short deal if that's possible.
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I agree with this. The strategy hasn't been a big free agency splash but if that left the money for Clowney it's worth doing. Especially on a short deal if that's possible.
If Clowney doesn't fit into our locker room and/or Joe Douglas doesn't see him as a fit, we still have to go out and add some edge players.
Vinny Curry has been linked to us since the start of free agency and he would likely take an inexpensive, one year deal...similar to most of the additions JD has mad.
The only player Douglas has committed to for more than one season is Connor McGovern. The blueprint is very clear right now. He's tearing down the walls and building up the foundation through the NFL Draft.
He is going to fill holes and create competition in free agency, but no starting spots are guaranteed at these positions. He wants to build a team of "his" guys, unlike what we've seen in the past from Tannebaum, Idzik, and Maccagnan. They would sign or trade for just about anybody. Douglas has reminded me of Eric Mangini as an evaluator from the start. He has a price, he sticks to it. He has a particular player that he likes and he'll bring in those guys.
He didn't see too much in Robby Anderson and that's fine.
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Because he's a dominant edge presence. He is one of the more disruptive players in the game and has to be accounted for on every snap.
If you sign a player like Clowney that is clearly motivated by money on a one year, prove it contract, he will dominate.
Clowney is an interesting investment opportunity. Overpaying him on a 1 year deal could get you good production (motivation) and a nice comp pick
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Clowney is an interesting investment opportunity. Overpaying him on a 1 year deal could get you good production (motivation) and a nice comp pick
This is correct
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Clowney isn't signing that deal.
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Clowney isn't signing that deal.
It's been talked about since Seattle let him walk.
He misplayed his market and wants to sign a one year deal for $18M plus and then re-enter free agency in 2021.
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Unless he really likes Greg I don't know why Clowney would want to come here instead of staying with Seattle on the same deal (assuming that's an option), but if it's for one year giving him an excess amount of cash still sounds like it would work assuming we have the space.
We could also use veteran backup QB, so probably need to leave some space for that as well.
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A signing cannot become official until there's a passed physical.
We're in a really tough spot geographically to this stuff done. You have to hope that the players we've added can get physicals completed by doctors outside of the organization.
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What worries me about the NFL Draft being rushed is that medical red flags are not going to be as apparent. In this class, if a prospect had ANY surgeries in college, I wouldn't touch him before the 5th round.
Interviews can be completed through Facetime and other apps, but medical checks and re-checks are concerning to me.
I love the draft more than just about anybody, but it should not be rushed and it's going to be.
I think it’s going to be absolutely amazing to see how the medicals unfold with teams. Some are definitely going to slide. As such there might be a bunch of late round guys who would have gone much higher in any other year purely because no one knows the medical. The WR order I think is going to have a significant shakeup as there are just so many of them and the healthy ones will be taken first.
Guys like the following are just some names to watch with the inability for medical checks
Tua Tagovailoa
Lavishka Shenault
Bryan Edwards
Tyler Biadasz
Netane Muti
To your point I can’t believe teams didn’t force the draft to be delayed. It’s not like anyone is going to be in facilities and coaches getting their hands on the new players soon. It’s all a delayed mess at this point. Might as well push the draft back so teams “get it right”
That said if it means the Jets have a shot at some very talented prospects a bit later on than they should (perhaps Bryan Edwards in the 5th??) then I might in fact be all for it
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To your point I can’t believe teams didn’t force the draft to be delayed.
The GMs basically voted for it to be delayed and Roger Goodell told them no
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Speculation is fun. No one has talked about him coming here outside of the "x number of players the Jets should think about signing" articles.
If we still haven't signed all of our FAs then we're probably closer to the Golden/Griffen market than Clowney.
I'd rather not see JD blow the remnants of our cap space on a rental. We might need that furtherd down the season if the injury problems aren't a one season apparition.
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The GMs basically voted for it to be delayed and Roger Goodell told them no
I hadn’t seen that. I heard that they all basically said we can make it work. But I’m thinking about it, that sounds like post decision spin
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It was a unanimous decision by the GMs to recommend postponing. Ginger Commish said get fucked.
Edit: shouldn't the filter have caught that?
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Make a few more reasonable signings with cap cuts and carry the money over to pay Jamal and Sam in the future.
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What happens with contracts, cap space, carry over etc if there's no season? Are signing bonuses paid out for the year, do they get carried forward?
Do guys on rookie contracts accrue a year? Will New rookies contracts start this season or defer a year? Will we use the same draft order in the following offseason? Will there be a draft next offseason?
Where do babies come from?
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Clowney lowered his asking price from $20 to $17-18 a yr
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i was already cool with that price so long as he was, and he's come down now given the market's response towards his 20M desire. he wants a one-year prove-it deal and to re-enter as a FA next year. as others have mentioned even if we lose him well get a good derriere comp pick
we should be all over this
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I don't mind overpaying him as long as it's on a short-term deal.
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AHarrellESPN: #Seahawks and #Jets seem to be nearing on a trade that would send RB Rashaad Penny to New York. Looking like it’s gonna be a late-round pick for the 2018 first rounder.
AHarrellESPN: Just got a text that the #Jets want WR Tyler Lockett with Rashaad Penny, but with compensation increasing to the Jets 2nd this year and 3rd next year.
Pretty sure this guy is full of excrement
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AHarrellESPN: #Seahawks and #Jets seem to be nearing on a trade that would send RB Rashaad Penny to New York. Looking like it’s gonna be a late-round pick for the 2018 first rounder.
AHarrellESPN: Just got a text that the #Jets want WR Tyler Lockett with Rashaad Penny, but with compensation increasing to the Jets 2nd this year and 3rd next year.
Pretty sure this guy is full of excrement
No chance in hell we trade a 2and round pick for a wr in this draft
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No chance in hell we trade a 2and round pick for a wr in this draft
Tyler Lockett is an exceptional talent.
But the trade for Rashaad Penny makes no sense. He is recovering from a serious knee injury and physicals cannot be completed for who knows how long.
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AHarrellESPN: #Seahawks and #Jets seem to be nearing on a trade that would send RB Rashaad Penny to New York. Looking like it’s gonna be a late-round pick for the 2018 first rounder.
AHarrellESPN: Just got a text that the #Jets want WR Tyler Lockett with Rashaad Penny, but with compensation increasing to the Jets 2nd this year and 3rd next year.
Pretty sure this guy is full of excrement
I googled him.... and I can’t find him. So either he is brand spanking new, or this is a fake BS account. Given he has 20 something tweets, I’m going with BS trying to seem real.
Also Penny and Lockett wouldn’t exactly help us a bunch. I mean we are better with them than we are right now, but if we utilize the mid round pick well, they could give us as much or more
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I googled him.... and I can’t find him. So either he is brand spanking new, or this is a fake BS account. Given he has 20 something tweets, I’m going with BS trying to seem real.
Also Penny and Lockett wouldn’t exactly help us a bunch. I mean we are better with them than we are right now, but if we utilize the mid round pick well, they could give us as much or more
His Twitter account was started this month and he explained that he is new to Twitter.
Tyler Lockett would most definitely help us. He'd be the best receiver we've had in a few decades.
I think it's garbage and an attempt for a young reporter to gain some new followers.
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#Jets and #Seahawks seem to have fallen apart. Seahawks wanted a 3rd this year, and a 5th next year but Jets wouldn’t budge. WR Tyler Lockett and RB Rashaad Penny are safe for now, although Seattle is looking to trade both.
lmao
Move along, nothing to see here
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lmao
Move along, nothing to see here
A 3rd for Lockett would give us alot of flexibility in the draft
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lmao
Move along, nothing to see here
His cap hit of 9.5MM also makes this impossible
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AHarrellESPN: #Seahawks and #Jets seem to be nearing on a trade that would send RB Rashaad Penny to New York. Looking like it’s gonna be a late-round pick for the 2018 first rounder.
AHarrellESPN: Just got a text that the #Jets want WR Tyler Lockett with Rashaad Penny, but with compensation increasing to the Jets 2nd this year and 3rd next year.
Pretty sure this guy is full of excrement
I'll take Lockett for a 2 and a 3 and they can keep Penny. It's moot though because this is nonsense.
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Not sure what's more ridiculous - trade rumors from a Twitter account that has already been shut down, or the comment that Tyler Lockett "wouldn't exactly help us a bunch."
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I really hope we are considering making a run at Logan Ryan over any available free agent.
Brian Winters and Avery Williamson can either be restructured or released to make room for him now.
Not sure we can wait until June 1st for Trumaine's money to free up.
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I really hope we are considering making a run at Logan Ryan over any available free agent.
Brian Winters and Avery Williamson can either be restructured or released to make room for him now.
Not sure we can wait until June 1st for Trumaine's money to free up.
I’d be surprised if any signings happen between now and the draft.
I really think one of our 3rds is planned for defense either a beat available CB or Edge. Post draft whatever position we don’t take will probably see some FA love, either with Ryan or a guy like Everson Griffin/Markus Golden
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Hopefully his price isn't what it was projected earlier in free agency. We could use another serviceable CB, but not for $10 million per year at his current talent level.
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Hopefully his price isn't what it was projected earlier in free agency. We could use another serviceable CB, but not for $10 million per year at his current talent level.
$10M for one season is fine. He is more than a serviceable corner. He is coming off of his best season as a pro.
Would you rather pay Brian Winters $7M to compete for a guard spot or Logan Ryan a few million more to start at corner opposite Pierre Desir?
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$10M for one season is fine. He is more than a serviceable corner. He is coming off of his best season as a pro.
Would you rather pay Brian Winters $7M to compete for a guard spot or Logan Ryan a few million more to start at corner opposite Pierre Desir?
If it’s not a long term commitment, I’m more than happy to give Ryan a pretty penny
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Would you rather pay Brian Winters $7M to compete for a guard spot or Logan Ryan a few million more to start at corner opposite Pierre Desir?
Might be better to do neither. Depends on the price. I'm not qualified to say how good he is at this point.
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Might be better to do neither. Depends on the price. I'm not qualified to say how good he is at this point.
What’s the deal with rollover cap funds in the new CBA? Does that still happen? If not, or if that number is more limited no use not spending it on 1 year deals that can make you better today
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What’s the deal with rollover cap funds in the new CBA? Does that still happen? If not, or if that number is more limited no use not spending it on 1 year deals that can make you better today
I used to pay close attention to that excrement. Now I just defer to dcm.
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Might be better to do neither. Depends on the price. I'm not qualified to say how good he is at this point.
100 tackles and 4 picks for one of the better defenses in the league last season
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100 tackles and 4 picks for one of the better defenses in the league last season
Ryan has 8.5 sacks over the last 2 seasons as well.
I think he’d be a great fit in Geg’s scheme.
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Ryan has 8.5 sacks over the last 2 seasons as well.
I think he’d be a great fit in Geg’s scheme.
Did a lot of damage out of the nickel spot. Signing him would create some solid interchangeable depth at CB.
Desir
Ryan
Poole
Austin
Maulet
looks a lot better than
Desir
Austin
Poole
Maulet
Signing Logan Ryan changes the CB group. It will also allow us to push CB down a bit on list of needs and go after prospects that fall out of the first few rounds.
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I am all for signing Logan Ryan. Cornerback is still a MAJOR need for us.
Right now, we are counting on Pierre Desir, Brian Poole and Bless Austin. Austin could tear his ACL tomorrow, and nobody would be surprised. Desir slipped a little last year, and there's a reason we signed him so cheap. Poole has been a journeyman most of his career. We really need one more trustworthy body to throw in that mix to improve the depth.
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Compensatory period ends tomorrow at 4 pm. Anyone signed after that doesn't affect comp picks.
OTC: Some notable free agents who may benefit from the comp period ending for most tomorrow
Jadeveon Clowney
Jason Peters
Logan Ryan
Ziggy Ansah
Tramon Williams
Darqueze Dennard
Kelvin Beachum
Eli Apple
Markus Golden
Jabaal Sheard
Michael Bennett
Mike Daniels
Lamar Miller
Aqib Talib
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Compensatory period ends tomorrow at 4 pm. Anyone signed after that doesn't affect comp picks.
OTC: Some notable free agents who may benefit from the comp period ending for most tomorrow
Jadeveon Clowney
Jason Peters
Logan Ryan
Ziggy Ansah
Tramon Williams
Darqueze Dennard
Kelvin Beachum
Eli Apple
Markus Golden
Jabaal Sheard
Michael Bennett
Mike Daniels
Lamar Miller
Aqib Talib
Logan Ryan, Lamar Miller, and Jabaal Sheard please
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What is the deal with Ansah? I have not followed his career super closely after he got drafted.
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DJ Fluker released. Sign him and put him next to Becton at LG. It won't be possible to get around them. They could just stand there after the snap. Their gravitational pull would slingshot the pass rushers through the goalpost.
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DJ Fluker released. Sign him and put him next to Becton at LG. It won't be possible to get around them. They could just stand there after the snap. Their gravitational pull would slingshot the pass rushers through the goalpost.
Can we not? We've already got one former Seattle lineman and I fear that might be one too many. They've not exactly been known for their stellar protection in recent years.
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Can we not? We've already got one former Seattle lineman and I fear that might be one too many. They've not exactly been known for their stellar protection in recent years.
I'm joking because he's another massive human. I have no idea how bad he is.
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Can we go ahead and cut Lamar Jackson so we don't have to hear the stupid "hurr durr he has the same name as the QB" excrement?
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Can we go ahead and cut Lamar Jackson so we don't have to hear the stupid "hurr durr he has the same name as the QB" excrement?
He might be better than Bryce Hall
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He might be better than Bryce Hall
Don't care. My hurr durr tolerance gets lower daily. Maybe we pay him to change is name to La'Mical Jackson
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Can we go ahead and cut Lamar Jackson so we don't have to hear the stupid "hurr durr he has the same name as the QB" excrement?
You're the reason Josh Allen isn't on this team.
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Corey Davis 5th yr option declined
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Did we sign Logan Ryan yet?
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Corey Davis 5th yr option declined
he was drafted the pick before jamal adams lmao
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he was drafted the pick before jamal adams lmao
I hope we sign him so Adams can freak with him in practice all day.
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I hope we sign him so Adams can freak with him in practice all day.
we've been unbelievably lucky the past few years when it comes to our first rounders
having guys like corey davis and leonard fournette (whom the jags have tried to trade seemingly every year since they've drafted him) allowed us to end up with adams
dorsey being a lady garden (he took baker #1 lol) and gettleman being gettleman (saquon barkley is my favorite RB in the league but i'm sorry, if you have a pick that high and you're in need of a QB with sam darnold is staring you in the face, you take the QB 10/10 times) allowed us to end up with darnold
a few days before this year's draft i wrote that gettleman would do some random/unnecessary excrement just to spite everybody and what they think because it's what he always does. i think i said he'd draft a position none of us were expecting, but i was wrong about that. however, it was this sort of excrement that would make him take OT4 as the first tackle off the board, allowing becton to fall to us
we've been lucky
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we've been unbelievably lucky the past few years when it comes to our first rounders
having guys like corey davis and leonard fournette (whom the jags have tried to trade seemingly every year since they've drafted him) allowed us to end up with adams
dorsey being a lady garden (he took baker #1 lol) and gettleman being gettleman (saquon barkley is my favorite RB in the league but i'm sorry, if you have a pick that high and you're in need of a QB with sam darnold is staring you in the face, you take the QB 10/10 times) allowed us to end up with darnold
a few days before this year's draft i wrote that gettleman would do some random/unnecessary excrement just to spite everybody and what they think because it's what he always does. i think i said he'd draft a position none of us were expecting, but i was wrong about that. however, it was this sort of excrement that would make him take OT4 as the first tackle off the board, allowing becton to fall to us
we've been lucky
We were unbelievably lucky with Darnold, that's it.
Yeah we got Jamal Adams he's great. McCaffery Mahomes and Watson were all picked in the next couple of picks.
We weren't lucky, that draft was just freaking stacked as excrement. And had Adams been off the board who knows we might have drafted Mahomes or Watson instead.
With Becton I don't think we particularly got lucky. There were several great tackle prospects, and Becton was a high risk high reward guy. With quennin we just had the 3rd pick with two unquestionably more valuable guys drafted before him. Had Becton been off the board and we got Wirfs people would have been just as excited. Hell people would be praising our luck for getting the "safer" prospect
And if we go back further we drafted Darron Lee and Leonard Williams.
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With Becton I don't think we particularly got lucky. There were several great tackle prospects, and Becton was a high risk high reward guy.
Mekhi Becton was the best left tackle in the class. He was also the most physically gifted player in the entire draft.
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Mekhi Becton was the best left tackle in the class. He was also the most physically gifted player in the entire draft.
I'm not arguing that he's got the highest potential of the bunch. But is it not true that while he's a top notch run blocker, his pass blocking leaves plenty to be desired?
And in a pass heavy league with a QB that is this team's future, that surely counts for something.
Regardless even conceding Becton was luck, in all our other drafts we definitely didn't get lucky.
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I'm not arguing that he's got the highest potential of the bunch. But is it not true that while he's a top notch run blocker, his pass blocking leaves plenty to be desired?
And in a pass heavy league with a QB that is this team's future, that surely counts for something.
His pass blocking is mediocre, but that will come with coaching.
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we've been unbelievably lucky the past few years when it comes to our first rounders
having guys like corey davis and leonard fournette (whom the jags have tried to trade seemingly every year since they've drafted him) allowed us to end up with adams
dorsey being a lady garden (he took baker #1 lol) and gettleman being gettleman (saquon barkley is my favorite RB in the league but i'm sorry, if you have a pick that high and you're in need of a QB with sam darnold is staring you in the face, you take the QB 10/10 times) allowed us to end up with darnold
a few days before this year's draft i wrote that gettleman would do some random/unnecessary excrement just to spite everybody and what they think because it's what he always does. i think i said he'd draft a position none of us were expecting, but i was wrong about that. however, it was this sort of excrement that would make him take OT4 as the first tackle off the board, allowing becton to fall to us
we've been lucky
We don't get to excoriate Maccagnan for his mid round drafting and then say the first round consistency was luck. But the first round should be table stakes, anyone missing on first round picks has no right being an NFL GM.
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we've been unbelievably lucky the past few years when it comes to our first rounders
having guys like corey davis and leonard fournette (whom the jags have tried to trade seemingly every year since they've drafted him) allowed us to end up with adams
dorsey being a lady garden (he took baker #1 lol) and gettleman being gettleman (saquon barkley is my favorite RB in the league but i'm sorry, if you have a pick that high and you're in need of a QB with sam darnold is staring you in the face, you take the QB 10/10 times) allowed us to end up with darnold
a few days before this year's draft i wrote that gettleman would do some random/unnecessary excrement just to spite everybody and what they think because it's what he always does. i think i said he'd draft a position none of us were expecting, but i was wrong about that. however, it was this sort of excrement that would make him take OT4 as the first tackle off the board, allowing becton to fall to us
we've been lucky
Disagree on Thomas as OT4. Maybe overall potential wise he might have the lowest ceiling but I think he has the highest floor
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I think the top 4 OT could have gone in any order and it would have been fine.
Same thing with Baker, Darnold and Lamar (I threw Rosen into that group, but I was wrong about him...at least I was right about Lamar).
The Jets have had a history recently of the guy many consider to be the "best player in the draft" falling to them.
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I think the top 4 OT could have gone in any order and it would have been fine.
Same thing with Baker, Darnold and Lamar (I threw Rosen into that group, but I was wrong about him...at least I was right about Lamar).
The Jets have had a history recently of the guy many consider to be the "best player in the draft" falling to them.
Now that is true
Unfortunately Quinnen Williams and Leonard Williams are two of the 3 examples of that
Though quinnen is addmitedly still stupid young and early in his career, so he is more than capable of turning it around
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His pass blocking is mediocre, but that will come with coaching.
This isn't true. I don't know where that knock came from.
He allowed 1 sack and 3 QB hits as a true junior last season.
His technique can be a little sloppy because he was able to win with size/strength. That has to be cleaned up for sure.
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Giving up on Quinnen Williams after one season is absolutely retarded.
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But is it not true that while he's a top notch run blocker, his pass blocking leaves plenty to be desired?
It's false.
It's a stupid, lazy assumption that some draft analyst made somewhere along the way because he thought Becton was unathletic for his size or something.
He was the best overall lineman in the ACC. The coaches in that conference voted for this.
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This isn't true. I don't know where that knock came from.
He allowed 1 sack and 3 QB hits as a true junior last season.
His technique can be a little sloppy because he was able to win with size/strength. That has to be cleaned up for sure.
I wasn’t cutting him down...I probably used a poor choice of words. His run blocking is certainly at a higher level than his pass blocking....which isn’t a knock on his PB, just an observation.
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This isn't true. I don't know where that knock came from.
He allowed 1 sack and 3 QB hits as a true junior last season.
His technique can be a little sloppy because he was able to win with size/strength. That has to be cleaned up for sure.
i think some of that knock partly comes from people bringing up that he had the fewest pass pro sets last year while comparablly giving up a fair amount of pressures. i don't have the numbers, just something i ended up seeing a couple of times
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i think some of that knock partly comes from people bringing up that he had the fewest pass pro sets last year while comparablly giving up a fair amount of pressures. i don't have the numbers, just something i ended up seeing a couple of times
It's PFF, it's excrement. They'll tack a hurry or a pressure on a tackle for no reason.
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There are some absurd analytics floating around about offensive linemen.
The yards before contact behind a linemen is one of the dumbest statistics I have ever seen.
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With Becton I don't think we particularly got lucky. There were several great tackle prospects, and Becton was a high risk high reward guy. Had Becton been off the board and we got Wirfs people would have been just as excited. Hell people would be praising our luck for getting the "safer" prospect
Disagree on Thomas as OT4. Maybe overall potential wise he might have the lowest ceiling but I think he has the highest floor
I think the top 4 OT could have gone in any order and it would have been fine.
Same thing with Baker, Darnold and Lamar (I threw Rosen into that group, but I was wrong about him...at least I was right about Lamar).
having different views/rankings on players is fair, and i apologize for bringing rank into it in the first place, as it wasn't even the main point i was trying to make with regards to the OT choice and the QB choice.
i've been fortunate that the team drafted players in darnold and becton that I personally had wanted on the team. but beyond that, beyond the rankings, a couple of days going into the draft this year many of us had concerns the top 4 OT wouldn't even be available at 11. we were at 11 staring wirfs and becton in the face. i think it was extremely fortunate we were in that position, and of course not all of that is due to gettleman.
if darnold didn't fall to us we would have drafted allen or rosen, let's be honest. we were extremely fortunate sam happened to be available and we didn't have to spend the next couple of days/months/years convincing ourselves that rosen is capable of leading a franchise or that allen is legitimately top level.
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i think we have a top level QB on our hands in sam, we just have to figure out how to not ruin him
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We don't get to excoriate Maccagnan for his mid round drafting and then say the first round consistency was luck. But the first round should be table stakes, anyone missing on first round picks has no right being an NFL GM.
i actually give maccagnan less credit for the darnold pick than others do. yeah it was great that he scouted him and ended up rushing to the stage to take him at 3 when we did, but the only reason we were there at 3 was because of the trade up that heimerdinger had actually maneuvered.
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The prototypical guy like Becton is usually a right tackle. Huge mauling guy in the run game with a few more questions about his pass protection. But the fact that everyone is penciling in Becton to the left side says a lot about both his athleticism and his pass blocking (if he were a trainwreck as a pass blocker, he would start on the right).
I do agree we were lucky the OTs fell. I was worrying a lot that they would all go ahead of us. I don't think going Jeudy-Jones would have been a disaster, but OL had to be the No. 1 priority, and we were able to address it.
If this OL goes from atrocious to average, the offense should take a huge leap forward.
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i actually give maccagnan less credit for the darnold pick than others do. yeah it was great that he scouted him and ended up rushing to the stage to take him at 3 when we did, but the only reason we were there at 3 was because of the trade up that heimerdinger had actually maneuvered.
Agreed. Maccagnan traded up to 3 because we knew one of the QBs would have been there. Clearly, he liked multiple quarterbacks. We know for a fact Darnold was in his top two. But that trade would have been a disaster if Baker and Darnold went 1-2.
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Agreed. Maccagnan traded up to 3 because we knew one of the QBs would have been there. Clearly, he liked multiple quarterbacks. We know for a fact Darnold was in his top two. But that trade would have been a disaster if Baker and Darnold went 1-2.
I know Jets fans (outside of here) who were campaigning for Barkley at 3 in that exact scenario.
Thank all the gods Sam fell in our laps
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What these analytic grading systems don't do is take scheme into account.
Under Petrino, Becton was flipped from left to right based on the strength of the formation. It was moronic in a lot of ways.
When Satterfield came in from Appalachian State, he left Becton at left tackle and installed the true zone read scheme. Becton was asked to pull a lot and he was also asked to pass set more than PFF wants to admit. The RPO was heavy in their offense. Becton had to pass set in a lot of situations when the QB gave the ball for a run.
You can't use the same system to grade a zone tackle and someone like Andrew Thomas that plays in a basic derriere, power offense.
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Agreed. Maccagnan traded up to 3 because we knew one of the QBs would have been there. Clearly, he liked multiple quarterbacks. We know for a fact Darnold was in his top two. But that trade would have been a disaster if Baker and Darnold went 1-2.
It would not. Josh Allen is a decent QB and the belief was that he was the guy Maccagnan was targeting and expecting to get. If we had ended up with Baker or Allen instead of Sam we would be sitting here still believing in our QB and hating the team for not giving him the protection and the weapons he needed for two years.
I've no idea what would have happened if we'd taken Rosen, but I think he was more favoured by fans than teams. They sat in the interviews, we didn't.
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Josh Allen sucks
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It would not. Josh Allen is a decent QB and the belief was that he was the guy Maccagnan was targeting and expecting to get. If we had ended up with Baker or Allen instead of Sam we would be sitting here still believing in our QB and hating the team for not giving him the protection and the weapons he needed for two years.
You are right that if we had Josh Allen, we would praise him just like we praise Sam. But if we gave up three 2nd-round picks to move up for him, I would not have been happy. As it is, he fell to the 7th pick. If Allen were our favorite, trading up well in advance wouldn't have made as much sense either.
I've no idea what would have happened if we'd taken Rosen, but I think he was more favoured by fans than teams. They sat in the interviews, we didn't.
Yeah, exactly. That's why I don't regret liking the Jachai Polite pick at the time. I didn't know he was that much of a turd.
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I liked the Polite pick as a third rounder because of his boom/bust potential but unfortunately we got the latter
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Speaking of 2017 draft picks, the Jags are not picking up the fifth year option for Fournette.
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I would not, in fact, praise Josh Allen if he was a Jet
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The Jets have some level of interest in former Bengals QB Andy Dalton, a source said. At this point, it has been characterized as due diligence. They could be looking to solidify the position, as their only experienced backup is David Fales (zero... https://t.co/3yWa3EbFUf
Probably nothing, but at the right price it would be a good backup signing. Yeah, he's a ginger, but good character guy, excellent backup. Probably too pricey as a backup.
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The Jets have some level of interest in former Bengals QB Andy Dalton, a source said. At this point, it has been characterized as due diligence. They could be looking to solidify the position, as their only experienced backup is David Fales (zero... https://t.co/3yWa3EbFUf
Probably nothing, but at the right price it would be a good backup signing. Yeah, he's a ginger, but good character guy, excellent backup. Probably too pricey as a backup.
I think it's a brilliant move for the team to add another ginger QB and it would be a perfect signing.
That said this would be one of the dumbest freaking places for Dalton to sign.
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That said this would be one of the dumbest freaking places for Dalton to sign.
Why?
Sam has missed time due to injury and illness in back to back seasons.
If Dalton is okay with being a backup and a mentor to Darnold, it's actually a very good spot for him.
Say Sam takes a huge step forward in 2020. Dalton would likely get some credit for that and could cash in again elsewhere.
The Jets are just as good of a landing spot for him as Jacksonville.
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I’d prefer to save the cap money
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Why?
Sam has missed time due to injury and illness in back to back seasons.
If Dalton is okay with being a backup and a mentor to Darnold, it's actually a very good spot for him.
Say Sam takes a huge step forward in 2020. Dalton would likely get some credit for that and could cash in again elsewhere.
The Jets are just as good of a landing spot for him as Jacksonville.
If the Pats didn't have Hoyer back, I'd say that would be the best spot. I'm trying to think of teams that are playoff ready and need insurance.
Doug can just sit and wait for the price to drop to the right spot. No harm if he goes elsewhere.
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If Dalton was OK being a backup and a mentor he'd have stayed in Cinci to do it. He'd have been paid a lot more.
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If Dalton was OK being a backup and a mentor he'd have stayed in Cinci to do it. He'd have been paid a lot more.
He cost too much to stay in Cincy.
They saved $17M by releasing him.
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Why?
Sam has missed time due to injury and illness in back to back seasons.
If Dalton is okay with being a backup and a mentor to Darnold, it's actually a very good spot for him.
Say Sam takes a huge step forward in 2020. Dalton would likely get some credit for that and could cash in again elsewhere.
The Jets are just as good of a landing spot for him as Jacksonville.
No we're not.
There's no pathway to the starting job here. If Dalton comes here and beats out Darnold this teams a mess.
At least numerous other teams (Jacksonville, New England, etc) have a pathway/competition to the starting job.
I just don't see why you go to a team where the only way you start is injury. Go somewhere with a competition, a QB on the hot seat, or a QB that's on deaths door.
Not to mention in Jacksonville he has his old coach
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Not to mention in Jacksonville he has his old coach
That part matters more than the rest of it. You are just as likely to start from injury as you are from beating out someone else. Ask Fitzpatrick.
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That part matters more than the rest of it. You are just as likely to start from injury as you are from beating out someone else. Ask Fitzpatrick.
If i asked Fitzpatrick he would likely use that Harvard brain to tell me that playing on a team where you can become the starter by competition or injury would effectively double your chances of becoming starter then.
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Does Dalton want to start? If he just wants to be a backup, the Jets are an ideal spot.
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He cost too much to stay in Cincy.
They saved $17M by releasing him.
If the reports are to be believed they released him because they had an agreement with him that if he requested his release it would be granted. He did and it was. I'm not suggesting that they weren't happy to do it given the savings, but he didn't request his release because he wants to go and be a backup somewhere else - he wants to compete for the starting job wherever he goes, and he's probably good enough to do it in a number of places. I like Dalton but I don't think he's right for us.
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Does Dalton want to start? If he just wants to be a backup, the Jets are an ideal spot.
That's a whole different story. I have to think it's more probable than not he would rather be starting
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Imagine if we start out the season with the offense looking like it's being coached by Adam Gase, open something like 1-5 and then he benches Sam and starts Dalton because it's someone's fault other than his for not executing the great big book of autism. All of a sudden I don't feel so great about having a vet backup.
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Imagine if we start out the season with the offense looking like it's being coached by Adam Gase, open something like 1-5 and then he benches Sam and starts Dalton because it's someone's fault other than his for not executing the great big book of autism. All of a sudden I don't feel so great about having a vet backup.
Gase's future is tied to Darnold succeeding, unless there's a major injury to him. If Darnold plays bad enough to bench, Gase is gone too and we sure aren't winning anything more with Dalton.
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Imagine if we start out the season with the offense looking like it's being coached by Adam Gase, open something like 1-5 and then he benches Sam and starts Dalton because it's someone's fault other than his for not executing the great big book of autism. All of a sudden I don't feel so great about having a vet backup.
Why stop there?
Imagine if Gase benches Jamal Adams for the season, gives Le'Veon Bell the coronavirus, shoots Quinnen Williams, and forces Mekhi Becton to get lap band surgery? Imagine if he kidnapped Joe Douglas' kids and forced Douglas to give him an extension after that 1-5 start.
That's about as realistic.
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On a serious note, I would prefer Darnold have a veteran backup to learn from that has done it. Flacco would have been good if he were willing to do it. Dalton has been a winning quarterback for a while, but he probably still thinks he's an NFL starting quarterback, so he might not be willing to be a mentor/backup.
If McCown wants to come back for another year, a QB room of Darnold, McCown and Morgan sounds great to me. I doubt that happens though.
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Gase's future is tied to Darnold succeeding, unless there's a major injury to him. If Darnold plays bad enough to bench, Gase is gone too and we sure aren't winning anything more with Dalton.
Jets start 1-5, Darnold gets benched, Dalton goes 5-5 off the back of his experience and the defense playing lights out, Gase blames the QB that neither he nor Douglas had anything to do with drafting, the Johnsons keep being idiots, Sam starts getting the dreaded B word... ugh. We need to fire Gase right now based entirely upon the completely imaginary yet scarily plausible scenario I just constructed in my head.
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On a serious note, I would prefer Darnold have a veteran backup to learn from that has done it. Flacco would have been good if he were willing to do it. Dalton has been a winning quarterback for a while, but he probably still thinks he's an NFL starting quarterback, so he might not be willing to be a mentor/backup.
If McCown wants to come back for another year, a QB room of Darnold, McCown and Morgan sounds great to me. I doubt that happens though.
We'll probably sign a different excrement QB that is mediocre to save cash. Is Matt Moore dead yet?
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Jets start 1-5, Darnold gets benched, Dalton goes 5-5 off the back of his experience and the defense playing lights out, Gase blames the QB that neither he nor Douglas had anything to do with drafting, the Johnsons keep being idiots, Sam starts getting the dreaded B word... ugh. We need to fire Gase right now based entirely upon the completely imaginary yet scarily plausible scenario I just constructed in my head.
The Jets might start 1-5 and Gase might get fired but Andy Dalton isnt going to give this team anything that Darnold won't.
Edit: i just read the imaginary part. I've had wine.
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I don’t understand the fascination to spend on a vet backup. They’re gonna want like 10+ million. Use that money on an edge rusher or something else more important
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I don’t understand the fascination to spend on a vet backup. They’re gonna want like 10+ million. Use that money on an edge rusher or something else more important
We’ve seen what happens if Sam misses time
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I don’t understand the fascination to spend on a vet backup. They’re gonna want like 10+ million. Use that money on an edge rusher or something else more important
I don't think anyone here would dream of signing him at $10 million. But if it drifts downward, you get more interested.
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We’ve seen what happens if Sam misses time
Well yeah I want a competent backup but I don’t think it has to be dalton/Flacco/etc
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We'll probably sign a different excrement QB that is mediocre to save cash. Is Matt Moore dead yet?
I would have been fine with Matt Moore.
It really all comes down to how they view Fales. Two QB spots are locked up. Last year, we went into the year with 2 QBs, so if Morgan is good enough, they could maybe just go with Darnold and Morgan.
And Dalton just signed with Dallas for a 1 year deal for $3M guaranteed and up to $7M. So no, he was never getting $10M.
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Dalton going to the Cowboys.
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Dalton going to the Cowboys.
Guess he's okay being a #2.
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I mean if you're gonna be a number 2 Dallas is probably the best team in the league to do it.
I don't think there's any team in the league with more offensive talent outside of QB than Dallas
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I would have been fine with Matt Moore.
It really all comes down to how they view Fales. Two QB spots are locked up. Last year, we went into the year with 2 QBs, so if Morgan is good enough, they could maybe just go with Darnold and Morgan.
And Dalton just signed with Dallas for a 1 year deal for $3M guaranteed and up to $7M. So no, he was never getting $10M.
The 10 million I was talking about I meant in Canadian dollars
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To be fair, I think we would have needed to pay Dalton more. He lives near the Cowboys facilities apparently. So if you're going to be a backup, being on a good team with a good offensive line at home is about as good as it gets.
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To be fair, I think we would have needed to pay Dalton more. He lives near the Cowboys facilities apparently. So if you're going to be a backup, being on a good team with a good offensive line at home is about as good as it gets.
Now that I think about it.
Considering the state of this season, unless someone is willing to give you a legit starter contract with real guaranteed money it makes a lot more sense to be a backup this year.
He will be going to a new team on a fucked up season with little to no camps or offseason and basically no chance to build team chemistry etc.
If he got another chance he would look like a massive bag of dicks.
Take a nice backup role, sit rest learn recover whatever the freak. Then next offseason you'll have some real opportunity. Plus there will be plenty of QB's who look like utter diasaster this year because of everything
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Wonder where Cam Newton is gonna take a backup role lol
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Wonder where Cam Newton is gonna take a backup role lol
He should go to the Rams but I think he’ll wait as long as possible
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One problem with Newton is that wherever he goes, a quarterback controversy will start. If the Rams sign him, immediately people will want to play him over Jared Goff. And as soon as Goff screws up, they will want to play Newton.
Granted, a healthy Newton is better than Goff. But the other problem is that nobody knows if Newton is healthy or not.
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We should convert him to a receiver.
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He should go to Cleveland.
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One problem with Newton is that wherever he goes, a quarterback controversy will start. If the Rams sign him, immediately people will want to play him over Jared Goff. And as soon as Goff screws up, they will want to play Newton.
Granted, a healthy Newton is better than Goff. But the other problem is that nobody knows if Newton is healthy or not.
Because of the shortened/non existent camp situation. I think the smart move for a QB is to take a 1 year deal riding the bench somewhere, and then go for a real contract and starting job the following year.
Throwing a QB into a new offense with players he's probably never practiced with plus I'm sure the in season practices will be limited as well.
Rest recover and recouping your value makes so much sense for him or any other QB looking for work
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/05/07/joe-flacco-had-neck-surgery-may-not-be-ready-for-start-of-season/
I'm sorry, Johnny English
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/05/07/joe-flacco-had-neck-surgery-may-not-be-ready-for-start-of-season/
I'm sorry, Johnny English
Does it prevent him carrying a clipboard and working in the QB room? If no then this is fine, maybe we can get him cheaper.
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Does it prevent him carrying a clipboard and working in the QB room? If no then this is fine, maybe we can get him cheaper.
LaRon Landry...still available.
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LaRon Landry...still available.
Not much help to Sam though.
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Does it prevent him carrying a clipboard and working in the QB room?
It prevents him from passing a physical
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With all of these one year deals that Douglas is dishing out, I wonder if he plans on signing some of them to extensions mid-season like we saw with Ryan Griffin.
I think we could potentially see that with guys like Jenkins, Poole, Desir, and Perriman.
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Hopefully we make a run at Larry Warford next.
Remaining needs that we can likely fill over the remainder of the offseason:
Veteran Backup QB (Matt Moore/Joe Flacco)
Veteran WR (Demaryius Thomas/Paul Richardson)
Rotational EDGE (Vinny Curry)
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Hopefully we make a run at Larry Warford next.
Remaining needs that we can likely fill over the remainder of the offseason:
Veteran Backup QB (Matt Moore/Joe Flacco)
Thanks babbie.
Re: Warford, everything I read about him suggests he's probably not a great fit given we seem to have targeted more athletic and mobile linemen this offseason.
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Brian Winters isn’t mobile, athletic, or good at football
Warford is at least good
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There's been some mention of the Jets possibly being reluctant to spend their cap money this year. Who knows if that is true, but one thing that may be causing that is what the max cap number will be next year. I've read that if it's based on revenue, then the cap max next year will go down quite a bit because of the virus, instead of rising steadily like it has in recent years. I wonder if some teams might be prepping for that by having a cash pad to roll to next year.
Obviously I defer to dcm on this and other cap issues.
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There's been some mention of the Jets possibly being reluctant to spend their cap money this year. Who knows if that is true, but one thing that may be causing that is what the max cap number will be next year. I've read that if it's based on revenue, then the cap max next year will go down quite a bit instead of rising steadily like it has in recent years. I wonder if some teams might be prepping for that by having a cash pad to roll to next year.
Obviously I defer to dcm on this and other cap issues.
That could explain all of the one year deals too...
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That could explain all of the one year deals too...
Yep, next year will be mystery. No need to go into it strapped to a bunch of players. Flexibility will be key.
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TomPelissero: The NFL just informed clubs the prohibition on tryouts has been lifted immediately, per source.
Should see a pick up in Free Agent activity now
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Should see a pick up in Free Agent activity now
If players sign a 1 yr deal now and the season doesn’t happen, are they still on the deal for 2021? My assumption is yes.
I’d wager we might not engage a guy until we are certain a season will happen
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If players sign a 1 yr deal now and the season doesn’t happen, are they still on the deal for 2021? My assumption is yes.
I’d wager we might not engage a guy until we are certain a season will happen
Naa, they get $20 and a free grab on a Pelosi tit.
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If players sign a 1 yr deal now and the season doesn’t happen, are they still on the deal for 2021? My assumption is yes.
I’d wager we might not engage a guy until we are certain a season will happen
Well at this point I have to imagine it's extraordinarily unlikely that there's no season at all.
Whether the season gets canceled early is a whole different can of worms.
Not to mention at this point they'd be making new contracts, likely aimed at players who are desperate for their shot in the NFL, so I'd have to imagine it wouldn't be difficult to put language into the contracts that make them only valid for whatever season happens this year.
For vet contracts it could be a different, but for young UDFA/camp body talent there's no question the league will let GMs take full advantage of them