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Collegiate Football => The NFL Draft => Topic started by: insanity on January 03, 2020, 10:32:30 AM
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Darnell Washington 6'8 250lb Tight End that runs like wide receiver/runningback
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/3o6ZtebNZofcKMWis0/giphy.gif)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcvwmoZUmOY
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcvwmoZUmOY)
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Can't believe I'm saying this given recent history, but tight end is actually one of the only position groups where I feel great about the depth moving forward.
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Jadeveon Clowney’s cousin, Demon Clowney commits to Ole Miss
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is his name really demon or is it 'damon' spelled funny
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is his name really demon or is it 'damon' spelled funny
It's pronounced Da-mon
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PFF Top 100 11/14/22
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-draft-board-big-board
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PFF Top 100 11/14/22
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-draft-board-big-board
Will Levis at #3?
Admittedly some years have a large number of QB-needy teams that often push the 'overvaluation' of such prospects, e.g. the 2011 draft (Jake Locker/Blaine Gabbert/Christian Ponder). Don't see that being the case this year. jm2cts
fwiw, TDN: https://thedraftnetwork.com/nfl-draft-rankings-tdn100-2023-october/
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Will Levis is a worse version of Ryan Nassib
This class is very similar to 2011 and 2013
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Will Levis is a worse version of Ryan Nassib
This class is very similar to 2011 and 2013
Amazing that Geno is the most successful QB out of the 2013 NFL Draft.
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Boise State S JL Skinner would look great in our defense
6'4 safety
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based on where we're projected to pick, I like the following prospects for us:
Anton Harrison - OT - Oklahoma
Jordan Addison - WR - USC
Jaxon Smith-Njigba - WR - Ohio State
Darnell Wright - OT - Tennessee
Michael Mayer - TE - Notre Dame
Darnell Washington - TE - Georgia
Trenton Simpson - LB - Clemson
JL Skinner - S/LB - Boise State
Noah Sewell - LB - Oregon
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based on where we're projected to pick, I like the following prospects for us:
Anton Harrison - OT - Oklahoma
Jordan Addison - WR - USC
Jaxon Smith-Njigba - WR - Ohio State
Darnell Wright - OT - Tennessee
Michael Mayer - TE - Notre Dame
Darnell Washington - TE - Georgia
Trenton Simpson - LB - Clemson
JL Skinner - S/LB - Boise State
Noah Sewell - LB - Oregon
Michael Mayer....Cato might die.
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Michael Mayer....Cato might die.
He'd immediately be our second best weapon in the passing game behind Garrett Wilson.
Mayer could have a Jeremy Shockey like impact.
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He'd immediately be our second best weapon in the passing game behind Garrett Wilson.
Mayer could have a Jeremy Shockey like impact.
I'm not the one that needs convincing.
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Honestly, my biggest objection would be tying up that many resources in the TE position.
An OT or a WR would be improving a position actually suffering from problems.
Also, Mayer's two favorite things are probably rape and witness intimidation.
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Honestly, my biggest objection would be tying up that many resources in the TE position.
An OT or a WR would be improving a position actually suffering from problems.
Also, Mayer's two favorite things are probably rape and witness intimidation.
Tight ends are important in this offense. Uzomah and Conklin are below average starters. Having 2 of them helps a lot and makes the unit decent, but we still could use a true TE1. And who knows what Ruckert is. Tight ends take more time than maybe any other NFL position, so perhaps he's developing well behind the scenes, but he can't get on the field right now.
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I find your analysis to be sub par.
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JSN or Noah Sewell because I'm a basic bitch who just wants a notable name
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Honestly, my biggest objection would be tying up that many resources in the TE position
An OT or a WR would be improving a position actually suffering from problems.
Also, Mayer's two favorite things are probably rape and witness intimidation.
edit: ^ huh ?
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There are two front seven players I'd consider in the first round:
Baylor DT Siaki Ika
Clemson LB Trenton Simpson
Both of these players elevate our defense.
That said, we should focus heavily on IOL in this draft. I think we have to patch up OT in free agency. The interior offensive line (guard and center) group in this draft class is one of the deepest positions groups.
This post makes more sense here.
Ika next to Quinnen takes so much pressure off of our linebackers and edge players. I understand that he's a defensive lineman and we've picked so many of those in the first round, but we are once again pretty thin at DT and his ability to impact to run and pass would be huge for our defense.
We'll hopefully be picking towards the end of the first round, so it's a less premium draft selection. Always the chance a prospect like Ika slides into the second as well.
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While on the topic of defensive line,
Auburn's Colby Wooden never really took off this year, but he is a better version of Micheal Clemons. It'd be nice to have two of that type of DL.
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Would you be comfortable taking Tanner McKee in the third round if you get Davis Mills like play from him?
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Would you be comfortable taking Tanner McKee in the third round if you get Davis Mills like play from him?
If we got Davis Mills like play out of any 3rd round QB I’d say we should be happy with that. Low to mid tier starter, top end backup play is likely the high end of what we are getting with any QB option the next couple years anyways.
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Jets need to draft QB Holton Ahlers from East Carolina. Big-time Hefty Lefty vibes.
No I'm not serious.
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Would you be comfortable taking Tanner McKee in the third round if you get Davis Mills like play from him?
That would be a waste of a pick. Not interested in continuing to be stuck in QB hell.
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Throw all of the picks at offense
How else are we going to keep up in a game with Mahomes/Allen/Herbert/Burrow
Add Lawrence to this
Draft Offense
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Add Lawrence to this
Draft Offense
Lawrence put up 19 points on us, I'm not worried about him yet.
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Lawrence put up 19 points on us, I'm not worried about him yet.
They also didn’t have to “try” once they scored 10 points teams knew it was in the bag since Whites ribs broke
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Lawrence put up 19 points on us, I'm not worried about him yet.
That was a meh game for him I thought
His statline for this year is impressive
There’s some projection above, but I think he takes another step next year that makes it fair for him to be talked about among those other guys
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Rattler returning to SC. Guess we can wait a year to draft a qb ;)
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Rattler returning to SC. Guess we can wait a year to draft a qb ;)
I'm gonna get a custom Rattler jersey now just in case.
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-players-to-watch-offense-senior-bowl-20230125-af7eoid6inaj7pl2s6aup4r5dq-story.html
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USC DL Tuli Tuipulotu and Illinois DL Jer'zahn Newton are fun to watch.
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Bryan Bresee kind of feels underrated right now. He's the kind of prospect worth moving back into the first round for.
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lol @ Karl Brooks not being invited to the combine
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Bryan Bresee kind of feels underrated right now. He's the kind of prospect worth moving back into the first round for.
He was one of the biggest surprises on the Jeremiah top 50. 43rd on DJ's board.
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He was one of the biggest surprises on the Jeremiah top 50. 43rd on DJ's board.
He had some weird health stuff and then his sister died. Not a lot from this year to go off of, but he's a dominant player at times.
As a rotational lineman in our defense, he'd be a problem for OLs.
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Who dis?
https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1626371484049350662?t=oHQqAx86hojzL-m4pzBMdw&s=19
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Who dis?
https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1626371484049350662?t=oHQqAx86hojzL-m4pzBMdw&s=19
tall boi
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tall boi
Draft him. Sauce/Julius open near you.
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Draft him. Sauce/Julius open near you.
DJ Reed to the slot?
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DJ Reed to the slot?
If this guy's any good, sure. Probably just let Orange Julius watch from the bench and replace Reed down the road.
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DJ Reed to the slot?
God's Perfect Human(TM) was meant to play outside.
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God's Perfect Human(TM) was meant to play outside.
Do we think that Derek Carr will buy this trademark from Reed when he signs with the Jets?
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Do we think that Derek Carr will buy this trademark from Reed when he signs with the Jets?
Derek is too humble for such a thing, but he would bless Reed and give thanks to God for producing him.
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Connor Rogers
@ConnorJRogers
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3m
Peter Skoronski (LT no. 77) can handle anything asked of him in the run game at a high level
Excellent at winning with leverage and power off the snap, but has the athleticism to get to the 2nd level to wipe out LBs+DBs
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Connor Rogers
@ConnorJRogers
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Peter Skoronski (LT no. 77) can handle anything asked of him in the run game at a high level
Excellent at winning with leverage and power off the snap, but has the athleticism to get to the 2nd level to wipe out LBs+DBs
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Your_Arms_Too_Short_to_Box_with_God.jpg)
I'm jonesing for Broderick
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Weren't short arms the reason that AVT can't play tackle in the NFL?
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Connor Rogers
@ConnorJRogers
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Peter Skoronski (LT no. 77) can handle anything asked of him in the run game at a high level
Excellent at winning with leverage and power off the snap, but has the athleticism to get to the 2nd level to wipe out LBs+DBs
Going out on a limb and saying there’s a very low % that a team picks him to be their left tackle. He’s absolutely a guard in my eyes. MAYBE in a movement heavy scheme, but I don’t see tackle at all.
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Weren't short arms the reason that AVT can't play tackle in the NFL?
Can’t play or was originally drafted to play? A more relevant example would be the NYG drafting Justin Pugh in the first round and playing him at right tackle only to eventually move Pugh to OG after being replaced at RT by former Packers fifth round OT pick Marshall Newhouse whom they signed as a FA.
Justin Pugh today? Playing for Arizona at OG. Additionally, Skronski’s short pins weren’t as much of an issue in Pat Fitzgerald’s Neanderthal offense at Northwestern. NFL? Different story
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NFL Rumors
@nflrums
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16m
Todd McShay compares Alabama Quarterback Bryce Young to Chiefs Patrick Mahomes
If the Bears trade Justin Fields and he excels somewhere else it would cost jobs in Chicago @espn
McShay...whatchu doin', blu?
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McShay...whatchu doin', blu?
Isn’t the inverse all true? Fields turns out to b toning an the Bears take Jalen Carter while Bryce Young is a star in say Houston or Indianapolis? Jobs will be lost that way too.
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Random list of guys I really like in this class:
RB Devon Achane, TAMU
WR Jalen Hyatt, TENN
WR Grant Dubose, Charlotte
WR Xavier Hutchinson, Iowa State
TE Josh Whyle, Cincinnati
OT Tyler Steen, Bama
IOL Nick Broeker, Ole Miss
Edge BJ Ojulari, LSU
Edge Derick Hall, Auburn
DL Karl Brooks, Bowling Green
DL Colby Wooden, Auburn
LB Nolan Smith, UGA
CB Jakorian Bennett, Maryland
S Sydney Brown, Illinois
S Jammie Robinson, FSU
S Demarcco Hellams, Bama
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Zay Flowers is gonna end up in KC isn't he?
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Random list of guys I really like in this class:
RB Devon Achane, TAMU
WR Jalen Hyatt, TENN
WR Grant Dubose, Charlotte
WR Xavier Hutchinson, Iowa State
TE Josh Whyle, Cincinnati
OT Tyler Steen, Bama
IOL Nick Broeker, Ole Miss
Edge BJ Ojulari, LSU
Edge Derick Hall, Auburn
DL Karl Brooks, Bowling Green
DL Colby Wooden, Auburn
LB Nolan Smith, UGA
CB Jakorian Bennett, Maryland
S Sydney Brown, Illinois
S Jammie Robinson, FSU
S Demarcco Hellams, Bama
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please watch my son (Keaton Mitchell)
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Legacy Bowl (HBCU) at Tulane Stadium today. Some standouts:
* Xavier Smith, WR, Fla. A&M - Offensive MVP
* Jason Dumas, DL, Southern Univ. - Defensive MVP
* Joshua Pryor, DE, Bowie St.
Dumas from Southern Univ. is only 5’10” (280 lb. plug)
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please watch my son (Keaton Mitchell)
My entire family went to ECU except for me. I support this pick.
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please watch my son (Keaton Mitchell)
I’m excited to see him at the combine. I think he and Achane are the guys who have the chance to really blow people away there.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/11hjcfu/infante_a_legitimate_concern_nfl_teams_have_with/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/11hjcfu/infante_a_legitimate_concern_nfl_teams_have_with/)
freaking lol. It's Eric Berry with the horses all over again.
I can't wait for armchair analysts to break down this phobia.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/11hjcfu/infante_a_legitimate_concern_nfl_teams_have_with/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/11hjcfu/infante_a_legitimate_concern_nfl_teams_have_with/)
freaking lol. It's Eric Berry with the horses all over again.
I can't wait for armchair analysts to break down this phobia.
I used to know a guy who was like that about tuna. 6'2", broad, ginger, and hard as nails. The guy you wanted next to you if it ever kicked off, he didn't start fights but he always finished them. Put a can of tuna fish anywhere near him and he would lose his excrement, and if you were stupid enough to open it I can only imagine what would have happened - none of us were ever dumb enough to find out. If he saw tuna on the menu in the bar he'd get fidgety and have the get outs in case someone near him ordered it. It was absolutely the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
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I used to know a guy who was like that about tuna. 6'2", broad, ginger, and hard as nails. The guy you wanted next to you if it ever kicked off, he didn't start fights but he always finished them. Put a can of tuna fish anywhere near him and he would lose his excrement, and if you were stupid enough to open it I can only imagine what would have happened - none of us were ever dumb enough to find out. If he saw tuna on the menu in the bar he'd get fidgety and have the get outs in case someone near him ordered it. It was absolutely the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
Tailgate 2023
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Tailgate 2023
Three decades, 3000 miles, and a different lifetime away.
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I used to know a guy who was like that about tuna. 6'2", broad, ginger, and hard as nails. The guy you wanted next to you if it ever kicked off, he didn't start fights but he always finished them. Put a can of tuna fish anywhere near him and he would lose his excrement, and if you were stupid enough to open it I can only imagine what would have happened - none of us were ever dumb enough to find out. If he saw tuna on the menu in the bar he'd get fidgety and have the get outs in case someone near him ordered it. It was absolutely the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
It's gotta be some kind of early food poisoning trauma in both instances, but I'm holding out hope that Levis has some Charlie Kelly-esque conspiracy theories about milk. Or like milk killed his parents or some excrement
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It's gotta be some kind of early food poisoning trauma in both instances, but I'm holding out hope that Levis has some Charlie Kelly-esque conspiracy theories about milk. Or like milk killed his parents or some excrement
I've had some shitty fallout from foods but never enough to cause a phobia. At worst just a general avoidance of a food for a few years.
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It's gotta be some kind of early food poisoning trauma in both instances, but I'm holding out hope that Levis has some Charlie Kelly-esque conspiracy theories about milk. Or like milk killed his parents or some excrement
But deathly afraid at the sight of milk? What in the flipping freak makes people afraid of the sight of a beverage?
Wait is this dude anti Mac and cheese and ice cream? Wild stuff
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It’s a joke
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It’s a joke
Too late, it's true now.
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https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/ncaa-football/college-football-kentucky-will-levis-gross-coffee-habit-goes-viral (https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/ncaa-football/college-football-kentucky-will-levis-gross-coffee-habit-goes-viral)
Grosser than socks in the tub.
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Do you guys think there is a scenario where we would take a WR at 13 and pick up some OL help in 2nd?
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Do you guys think there is a scenario where we would take a WR at 13 and pick up some OL help in 2nd?
Sure: JSN at 13 and John Michael Schmitz in the second
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Sure: JSN at 13 and John Michael Schmitz in the second
Would you make this move only if certain OT are off the board, or do you think this is a viable path forward for JD?
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Would you make this move only if certain OT are off the board, or do you think this is a viable path forward for JD?
I would draft Darnell Wright at 13 over anyone other than Jalen Carter and Will Anderson.
Broderick Jones is a great pick at 13 too.
We need at least 3, hopefully 4 QBs off the board before we pick.
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I would draft Darnell Wright at 13 over anyone other than Jalen Carter and Will Anderson.
Broderick Jones is a great pick at 13 too.
We need at least 3, hopefully 4 QBs off the board before we pick.
Someone needs to trade up into the top 10 for Hacksaw Max Duggan. #KrangPower
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Tom Pelissero
1h
USC OL Andrew Vorhees, a top-100 prospect in the 2023 NFL Draft, is feared to have suffered a torn ACL during drills at the combine Sunday, per source.
Somehow, Vorhees still did the bench press this morning – and pumped out 38 reps of 225 pounds with one leg on the ground. 😳
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Tom Pelissero
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USC OL Andrew Vorhees, a top-100 prospect in the 2023 NFL Draft, is feared to have suffered a torn ACL during drills at the combine Sunday, per source.
Somehow, Vorhees still did the bench press this morning – and pumped out 38 reps of 225 pounds with one leg on the ground. 😳
thats insane
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That really sucks. He was one of the better IOL prospects in this class.
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That really sucks. He was one of the better IOL prospects in this class.
he'll have to return to Crystal Lake and feast on a few campers in the meantime.
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That really sucks. He was one of the better IOL prospects in this class.
Day 3 babby
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That really sucks. He was one of the better IOL prospects in this class.
I had a early 2n rd grade on him
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https://twitter.com/TheAthleticNFL/status/1632841228307021825?s=20
According to the GMs and execs who spoke to @SandoNFL, Jalen Carter will not be among the top 10 picks in the NFL Draft. Four quarterbacks will, starting with Bryce Young.
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If he makes it to 13 and we pass on him...
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https://twitter.com/TheAthleticNFL/status/1632841228307021825?s=20
According to the GMs and execs who spoke to @SandoNFL, Jalen Carter will not be among the top 10 picks in the NFL Draft. Four quarterbacks will, starting with Bryce Young.
If he’s sitting there at #13. Ooooh boy.
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Draft Carter.
Extend Q for four years.
Best interior in the NFL for the next half decade.
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If he makes it to 13 and we pass on him...
Is there any danger of him doing time?
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Is there any danger of him doing time?
Doubtful
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Doubtful
Then I'm in. I don't believe the NFL can suspend him as he wasn't an NFL player at the time.
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PFF top 100
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-draft-board-big-board
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PFF top 100
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-draft-board-big-board
What are those defensive line positions? DI? ED? What was wrong with Tackle and End?
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Carter ar #13???
Even with 4 QBs taken in the top 10 can anyone really NOT see Jalen Carter as one of the 8 other draft picks and lasting until #13? Anderson, Tyree Wilson, 2 CBs (Ill/Ore), 2 WRs (TCU/OSU) and who else? OTs aren’t going ahead of Carter. Beautiful pipedream but it’s unfortunately just that.
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What are those defensive line positions? DI? ED? What was wrong with Tackle and End?
Defensive Individual and uhhh Eating Disorder.
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If he makes it to 13 and we pass on him...
this.
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If he makes it to 13 and we pass on him...
this
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It's absolutely a pipe dream.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35865573/georgia-dt-jalen-carter-9-lbs-heavier-struggles-pro-day (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35865573/georgia-dt-jalen-carter-9-lbs-heavier-struggles-pro-day)
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Yeah, let him fall to 13.
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Yeah, let him fall to 13.
Would you take him over any of the tackles, receivers, and Branch at this point?
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Would you take him over any of the tackles, receivers, and Branch at this point?
I would take him over every player in this draft class
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I would take him over every player in this draft class
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My biggest concern about Jalen Carter is that he looks like Stacey Abrams.
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^ ha, he does
Imagine Carter next to Quinnen
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I'm appalled (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230317/bf6060657a71411ebd412c0ddd9416dc.gif)
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Top RAS by position
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/top-ras-performers-by-position-from-packers-2023-nfl-scouting-combine/
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Top RAS by position
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/top-ras-performers-by-position-from-packers-2023-nfl-scouting-combine/
We've shown pre-draft interest in Bryce Ford-Wheaton.
I won't be surprised if we end up with one of Dexter/Bresee/Wooden.
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(https://i.redd.it/z6v8145toiqa1.jpg)
DRAFT BEEFTANK
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(https://i.redd.it/z6v8145toiqa1.jpg)
DRAFT BEEFTANK
God bless his heart valves once be starts training
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Are there any DL / EDGE guys not named Carter we'd take over any of the OL prospects at 13?
Assuming all OL prospects are still on the board
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Are there any DL / EDGE guys not named Carter we'd take over any of the OL prospects at 13?
Assuming all OL prospects are still on the board
Several
I think we'd have to consider Myles Murphy, Nolan Smith, Lukas Van Ness, and Bryan Bresee.
It's highly unlikely that Tyree Wilson slides to 13, but he's another one.
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Several
I think we'd have to consider Myles Murphy, Nolan Smith, Lukas Van Ness, and Bryan Bresee.
It's highly unlikely that Tyree Wilson slides to 13, but he's another one.
Nolan Smith scares the hell out of me. At his size I can’t see him being a successful hand in the dirt edge guy. His best chance at long term success is as a 3-4 OLB in my opinion.
https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/nolan-smith
I’m also not so convinced the “top tier” of tackles is actually that much better than tier two guys. Skoronski is more likely to be AVT than Rashawn Slater IMO. I don’t trust Johnson in the slightest, and Jones is raw right now. Might become a stud, but we want a sure fire player today. I think Darnell Wright is likely to be our tackle. But I’m also inclined to believe the media in that he won’t go top 15. Could we slide back a bit? That would be nice.
All things considered I think I’m inclined to go the Bengals route. Go get an elite playmaker and then use both seconds on the OL. Grab your tier 2 tackle that’s still there, and your future center be it JMS, Wypler or Tippmann. That’s the plan I’d be going with right now if a first round trade down isn’t an option
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Nolan Smith scares the hell out of me. At his size I can’t see him being a successful hand in the dirt edge guy. His best chance at long term success is as a 3-4 OLB in my opinion.
Then Saleh/Ulbrich can just stand him up.
I don't know if he has the speed-to-power traits and length that Saleh covets, but he definitely has the chance to be the BPA at 13.
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Go get an elite playmaker and then use both seconds on the OL.
Unfortunately for us, the only elite skill prospect in this draft is a running back
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Several
I think we'd have to consider Myles Murphy, Nolan Smith, Lukas Van Ness, and Bryan Bresee.
It's highly unlikely that Tyree Wilson slides to 13, but he's another one.
Would you say this group of DL are more talented than the top tier group of OL?
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Unfortunately for us, the only elite skill prospect in this draft is a running back
Iguess I just see JSN differently. Assuming of course that injury is right.
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Would you say this group of DL are more talented than the top tier group of OL?
Yes, but offensive tackle is more concerning to me
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Quentin Johnston vs. Georgia is hilarious
They had him in hell for the entire game.
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DJ top 50 4.0
https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-s-top-50-2023-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-4-0
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I think we're going to target Mazi Smith or maybe even Keion White (if he slips) in the second round.
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I think we're going to target Mazi Smith or maybe even Keion White (if he slips) in the second round.
Mazi is someone I've been mocking to us for a week or two
If we keep both 2s Center and DT are no Brainerd barring a surprise
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Chiefs scribe cold on Mazi Smith
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/lists/kansas-city-chiefs-2023-nfl-draft-first-round-prospects-to-avoid-jahmyr-gibbs-mazi-smith-luke-musgrave/
The Chiefs need to invest long-term in the defensive tackle position, but Smith scares me a bit. From an athletic standpoint, Smith compares favorably to Dontari Poe. He had 10 fewer repetitions on the bench press (34 to Poe’s 44), but had better vertical (29.5) and broad jumps (107 inches). If the Chiefs selected him in the first round would be highly reminiscent of their selection of Poe too. They’re both incredibly talented athletes, but the on-field production didn’t match. That’s even more the case with Smith than it was with Poe, as he only recorded a half-sack in his three-year Michigan career. There’s also the fact that Smith caught a felony weapons charge earlier this month, which is another reason teams could be dissuaded.
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Chiefs scribe cold on Mazi Smith
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/lists/kansas-city-chiefs-2023-nfl-draft-first-round-prospects-to-avoid-jahmyr-gibbs-mazi-smith-luke-musgrave/
Oh c'mon...Smith pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. This guy is trying to discredit a draft prospect he doesn't like by throwing worthless information like that into his half-assed article is Tony Pauline-esque.
If he's not being asked to rush the passer at UM, then I'm not expecting high sack totals. He's a big bodied anchor that defends the run at a high level. That's what we need on the defensive line.
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Let’s talk C #2 for a few minutes.
The prevailing assumption is OT at 13 and a C with whatever second rounder we have left. I assume we won’t be trading up from 42/43 unless there’s something insane like Jalen Carter sliding to 30. If we keep both 2s which is why my belief that JD is trying to do, DT at one spot and C with the other.
Everyone seems to want JMS, but let’s talk about the world where he is drafted before 42. Who is the next guy, or possibly even a guy JD prefers to Schmitz outright? I see no consensus in the “experts” rankings.
Some people have Tippman next, others prefer Wypler, and ive even seen some people say Steve Avila is next. In the past I’d seen lots of love for Michigans Center whose name I can’t spell, and Ricky Stromberg out of Arkansas, although not so much any more.
So who is your call for OC if JMS is gone, or isn’t on top of our board?
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I think we're going to target Mazi Smith or maybe even Keion White (if he slips) in the second round.
broderick jones john michael schmitz mazi smith trifecta
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Am i the only one that's nervous about the Jets potentially selecting Paris Johnson Jr at 13? i keep hearing his balance stinks....
Someone convince me otherwise. Because i see a ton of mocks with him at 13.
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Am i the only one that's nervous about the Jets potentially selecting Paris Johnson Jr at 13? i keep hearing his balance stinks....
Someone convince me otherwise. Because i see a ton of mocks with him at 13.
after swearing off wirfs and jerking it to becton, i have realized that i know excrement about OT and will be fine with whomever JD decides to draft at 13
i'm just hoping we address OT, C, DT with our first 3 picks
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Am i the only one that's nervous about the Jets potentially selecting Paris Johnson Jr at 13? i keep hearing his balance stinks....
Someone convince me otherwise. Because i see a ton of mocks with him at 13.
after swearing off wirfs and jerking it to becton, i have realized that i know excrement about OT and will be fine with whomever JD decides to draft at 13
i'm just hoping we address OT, C, DT with our first 3 picks
If we take PJJ I'll cope by telling myself people were critical of Brick as a prospect too.
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Jake Haener is Jeff Garcia
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Jake Haener is Jeff Garcia
Haener isn't bald which as we all know is a plus for QBs
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Haener isn't bald which as we all know is a plus for QBs
yelverton abraham
’the bald eagle’
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Tittle_1961_Topps.jpg/168px-Tittle_1961_Topps.jpg)
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I've watched zero tape on any prospect this year, but im wondering if is it accurate to day this isnt a very good draft class?
From listening to the pundits it doesn't sound like there is as much excitement this year about this draft as pat years. Seems like there aren't as many dominant blue chip prospects. Seems like edge and cb is strong and deep, o line has a ton of players but no can't miss tackles, and the rest is just meh sans for 1-2 players at each position.
Is this inaccurate? Or am I just not as interested because I've paid little to no attention about this upcoming draft
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I've watched zero tape on any prospect this year, but im wondering if is it accurate to day this isnt a very good draft class?
From listening to the pundits it doesn't sound like there is as much excitement this year about this draft as pat years. Seems like there aren't as many dominant blue chip prospects. Seems like edge and cb is strong and deep, o line has a ton of players but no can't miss tackles, and the rest is just meh sans for 1-2 players at each position.
Is this inaccurate? Or am I just not as interested because I've paid little to no attention about this upcoming draft
this is usually what happens when the QB class stinks (and this one does).
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I've watched zero tape on any prospect this year, but im wondering if is it accurate to day this isnt a very good draft class?
From listening to the pundits it doesn't sound like there is as much excitement this year about this draft as pat years. Seems like there aren't as many dominant blue chip prospects. Seems like edge and cb is strong and deep, o line has a ton of players but no can't miss tackles, and the rest is just meh sans for 1-2 players at each position.
Is this inaccurate? Or am I just not as interested because I've paid little to no attention about this upcoming draft
Daniel Jeremiah did an interesting AMA on /r/nfl yesterday, this answer might provide a bit of insight (or at least his insight):
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/12s3u4e/im_draft_expert_daniel_jeremiah_ask_me_anything/jgwox72/
The whole thing is worth a read.
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this is usually what happens when the QB class stinks (and this one does).
It seems like most of the positions stink though
Lb, wr, safety, dt all seem underwhelming
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It seems like most of the positions stink though
Lb, wr, safety, dt all seem underwhelming
Well..we need to fortify our OL, which happens to be a decent class this year.
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https://twitter.com/CornellNFL/status/1649088389709283332?s=20
Rumblings of character concerns for Darnell Wright.
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https://twitter.com/CornellNFL/status/1649088389709283332?s=20
Rumblings of character concerns for Darnell Wright.
Smoke season.
But if it pushes him to 42 and we can take a Bijan or JSN and come back with Wright at 42, all the better for us
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I've watched zero tape on any prospect this year, but im wondering if is it accurate to day this isnt a very good draft class?
From listening to the pundits it doesn't sound like there is as much excitement this year about this draft as pat years. Seems like there aren't as many dominant blue chip prospects. Seems like edge and cb is strong and deep, o line has a ton of players but no can't miss tackles, and the rest is just meh sans for 1-2 players at each position.
Is this inaccurate? Or am I just not as interested because I've paid little to no attention about this upcoming draft
It seems like most of the positions stink though
Lb, wr, safety, dt all seem underwhelming
I think it’s just that the high end group is weak, so then it slowly trickles down.
Like I have two guys as Top 5 talents, 6 as top 10, like 13 as top 20, and so on. Once you get to the 20s, you’re looking at guys who are basically on the same level of your normal 2nd rounders. Then, the 2nd round talent stretches for a while. So the top end being weak makes it look really bad, but it course corrects after a while with some depth beyond the first level.
As far as the different positions being strong or weak, I actually think all four of the ones you mentioned are solid, even though WR especially catches a lot of heat. I think they are just representative of the greater issue.
No consensus top WR, and just one with a consistent Rd 1 grade.
No consensus top LB, and probably no first rounders.
Top DT is a Death Star, but after it’s pretty murky in terms of value through the first two days.
Top safety has ?s and a lot of varied opinions past him.
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https://twitter.com/CornellNFL/status/1649088389709283332?s=20
Rumblings of character concerns for Darnell Wright.
He’s got character but he’s talented. He’s just a poor football character. Lazy, but he blocked Alabama, he blocked Georgia like it was nothing.”
—Anonymous NFL scout on Tennessee offensive tackle Darnell Wright
https://steelersnow.com/darnell-wright-considered-a-boom-or-bust-player-in-the-draft-steelers/
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"Lazy" but he absolutely dominated several elite prospects at Alabama, Georgia, and Clemson
If Wright is getting the best of elite prospects, what does that make him?
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My takes (with very little knowledge besides what I've read)
- Skoronski is a great fit because he can fill in at guard or tackle, and that could allow us to have more versatility with AVT and Skoronski.
- Johnson and Jones are higher upside LT possibilities who both are great athletes for the position
- Wright is a pure RT, but given Becton/Brown/Mitchell, that's fine, and he may even be more likely to be a quality OT starter than the others, even if he can't play LT.
I don't know enough to have a real take, and any of those options could work out. I know this board is down on Paris Johnson compared to everything else I've read. I mostly trust Douglas here.
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"Lazy" but he absolutely dominated several elite prospects at Alabama, Georgia, and Clemson
If Wright is getting the best of elite prospects, what does that make him?
This smells like a major smokescreen because on draft night I could see him being the first tackle taken.
Like you said, anyone should go and watch what he did to Bama before they talk to me about laziness. He’s an absolute beast and an instant impact player.
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PSA
Daniel Jeremiah's Favorite Day 2 Players from his MTS podcast
WR: Cedric Tillman - Tenn / Jonathan Mingo - LSU
TE: Sam LaPorta - Iowa (DJ is really high on the TE class)
RB: Tank Bigsby - Auburn
OT/IOL: Matthew Bergeron - Syracuse / Chandler Zavala - NC State
DL/EDGE: Keion White - GA Tech / Byron Young - Tenn / Scott Matlock - Boise State
LB: Marte Mapu - Sacramento State
CB/S: Riley Moss - Iowa / Sydney Brown - Illinois
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PSA
Daniel Jeremiah's Favorite Day 2 Players from his MTS podcast
WR: Cedric Tillman - Tenn / Jonathan Mingo - LSU
TE: Sam LaPorta - Iowa (DJ is really high on the TE class)
RB: Tank Bigsby - Auburn
OT/IOL: Matthew Bergeron - Syracuse / Chandler Zavala - NC State
DL/EDGE: Keion White - GA Tech / Byron Young - Tenn / Scott Matlock - Boise State
LB: Marte Mapu - Sacramento State
CB/S: Riley Moss - Iowa / Sydney Brown - Illinois
Jets showed interest in Matlock, Zavala, and Mapu.
Mapu is really intriguing. Converted safety and we know Saleh loves prospects like that.
It'd be awesome to get Mingo or Tillman in the second.
Riley Moss is fun but no team should use a draft pick on a white corner.