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Collegiate Football => The NFL Draft => Topic started by: dcm1602 on November 16, 2019, 09:52:58 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theringer.com/platform/amp/2019/11/16/20968510/a-hip-injury-has-likely-ended-tua-tagovailoas-masterful-alabama-career
This definitely fucks the Jets draft position, and could significantly hinder the value of our first pick
Just noticed this was in the college football section.
Regardless definitely fucks with the draft outlook
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theringer.com/platform/amp/2019/11/16/20968510/a-hip-injury-has-likely-ended-tua-tagovailoas-masterful-alabama-career
This definitely fucks the Jets draft position, and could significantly hinder the value of our first pick
Just noticed this was in the college football section.
Regardless definitely fucks with the draft outlook
What a whiny derriere overreaction from you...
Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert were better NFL QB prospects anyways.
We were never, ever going to be bad enough to finish with a Top 2 pick.
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What a whiny derriere overreaction from you...
Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert were better NFL QB prospects anyways.
We were never, ever going to be bad enough to finish with a Top 2 pick.
Never expected a top 2 pick.
I figured best case scenario was between 3rd and 5th. Essentially guaranteeing the Jets either young Thomas or Jerry.
Though now the Jets look more like they're going to end up drafting outside the top 5, and Tua being off the board essentially knocks us down another pick.
Could have a fairly significant ramification
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Could have a fairly significant ramification
It won't.
Tua was one of the most overrated prospects of my lifetime. Sucks to see him get hurt, but I am extremely happy that we have Sam Darnold on our roster. I want absolutely nothing to do with Tagovailoa as an NFL QB.
This draft class is loaded with talent. We were never going to pick in the top five, unless Darnold gets hurt or some other bullshit goes down.
Jerry Jeudy was never a realistic option for us. Chase Young was never a realistic option for us. We can hope that someone values Tristan Wirfs potential and upside over Andrew Thomas and that he slides a bit. USC's Austin Jackson might be better than both of them. Iowa's AJ Epenesa and LSU's K'Lavon Chaisson are potentially elite EDGE prospects as well. This is arguably the best WR class ever. Not being in a spot to land Jerry Jeudy isn't that tough of a pill to swallow when someone like CeeDee Lamb or Henry Ruggs will be there.
We're in a spot to land a very good prospect in the Top 10.
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Now that Gase will be here next year, hopefully we can show some life, build on last week and progress. Gase may be a douche bag, but he's the Jets' coach and I want him to win.
Maybe it works out that offensive linemen drop some to us with all the other talent around.
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It won't.
Tua was one of the most overrated prospects of my lifetime. Sucks to see him get hurt, but I am extremely happy that we have Sam Darnold on our roster. I want absolutely nothing to do with Tagovailoa as an NFL QB.
This draft class is loaded with talent. We were never going to pick in the top five, unless Darnold gets hurt or some other bullshit goes down.
Jerry Jeudy was never a realistic option for us. Chase Young was never a realistic option for us. We can hope that someone values Tristan Wirfs potential and upside over Andrew Thomas and that he slides a bit. USC's Austin Jackson might be better than both of them. Iowa's AJ Epenesa and LSU's K'Lavon Chaisson are potentially elite EDGE prospects as well. This is arguably the best WR class ever. Not being in a spot to land Jerry Jeudy isn't that tough of a pill to swallow when someone like CeeDee Lamb or Henry Ruggs will be there.
We're in a spot to land a very good prospect in the Top 10.
It won't.
Tua was one of the most overrated prospects of my lifetime. Sucks to see him get hurt, but I am extremely happy that we have Sam Darnold on our roster. I want absolutely nothing to do with Tagovailoa as an NFL QB.
This draft class is loaded with talent. We were never going to pick in the top five, unless Darnold gets hurt or some other bullshit goes down.
Jerry Jeudy was never a realistic option for us. Chase Young was never a realistic option for us. We can hope that someone values Tristan Wirfs potential and upside over Andrew Thomas and that he slides a bit. USC's Austin Jackson might be better than both of them. Iowa's AJ Epenesa and LSU's K'Lavon Chaisson are potentially elite EDGE prospects as well. This is arguably the best WR class ever. Not being in a spot to land Jerry Jeudy isn't that tough of a pill to swallow when someone like CeeDee Lamb or Henry Ruggs will be there.
We're in a spot to land a very good prospect in the Top 10.
You don't think another team would have drafted Tua before our first pick?
Because that could be the difference between one of the elite guys sliding to us or not depending on where we land
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You don't think another team would have drafted Tua before our first pick?
Because that could be the difference between one of the elite guys sliding to us or not depending on where we land
If a team ahead of needs a QB, they’ll take a QB.
Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert benefit from this the most.
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Well that does it, better trade Jamal now. It's our only chance.
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If a team ahead of needs a QB, they’ll take a QB.
Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert benefit from this the most.
What's the deal with Herbert? I've only watched a few games but I left less than impressed. Is he not a system quarterback that gets to throw the ball into huge windows to top talent while hes protected by even better talent?
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What's the deal with Herbert? I've only watched a few games but I left less than impressed. Is he not a system quarterback that gets to throw the ball into huge windows to top talent while hes protected by even better talent?
Sounds just like Darnold
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Sounds just like Darnold
Sounds nothing like him as a prospect.
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What's the deal with Herbert? I've only watched a few games but I left less than impressed. Is he not a system quarterback that gets to throw the ball into huge windows to top talent while hes protected by even better talent?
Not sure about him throwing passes to "top talent" because Oregon's skill players are meh, but that scheme does protect him because he's getting the ball out fast.
He is a great athlete with a big arm. I think he's more of a late first type of prospect, but like I said earlier, teams that need QBs take QBs and usually reach for them.
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Not sure about him throwing passes to "top talent" because Oregon's skill players are meh, but that scheme does protect him because he's getting the ball out fast.
He is a great athlete with a big arm. I think he's more of a late first type of prospect, but like I said earlier, teams that need QBs take QBs and usually reach for them.
IMHO he's a better prospect than guys like Gabbert and Ponder were, and those guys went in the mid-first. As you said, never underestimate the absolute desperation of a team in need of a young quarterback.
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IMHO he's a better prospect than guys like Gabbert and Ponder were, and those guys went in the mid-first. As you said, never underestimate the absolute desperation of a team in need of a young quarterback.
Gabbert/Ponder both went like 10 overall
Watched most of Ponder’s FSU starts. Thought he was a 4th round pick. Then the draft analysts started talking up his leadership skills and his wonderlic scores
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This is some quality shade being thrown.
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Talking with @leighsteinberg asked his client Tua, and if he wants him to go No. 1 in upcoming #NFLDraft
“You want to make sure that your client ends up with a good organization....I’m hoping Cincy falls in love with Joe Burrow".
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This is some quality shade being thrown.
that agent needs to be told he needs to worry about his client's future well being and career, and should be thankful to any organization. he has a 21 year old that has needed multiple surgeries on both lower extremities as well as a surgically repaired geriatric fvcking hip. all of this by 21. huge alarm signs that i actually don't think are being talked about enough
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that agent needs to be told he needs to worry about his client's future well being and career, and should be thankful to any organization. he has a 21 year old that has needed multiple surgeries on both lower extremities as well as a surgically repaired geriatric fvcking hip. all of this by 21. huge alarm signs that i actually don't think are being talked about enough
There's a suggestion that Tua's family, particularly his dad, is somewhat involved in this whole process, and has clear ideas as to where they do and don't want him to go.
Then remember that Tua's agent is Leigh Steinberg who has been doing this for decades and has represented more #1 picks than any other agent in history, he knows exactly what he's doing when he's saying things like that to ESPN.
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There's a suggestion that Tua's family, particularly his dad, is somewhat involved in this whole process, and has clear ideas as to where they do and don't want him to go.
Then remember that Tua's agent is Leigh Steinberg who has been doing this for decades and has represented more #1 picks than any other agent in history, he knows exactly what he's doing when he's saying things like that to ESPN.
i understand he knows what he's doing with regards to getting tua drafted. they're going to do all of the right things to make sure he's a top pick and of course try to steer him towards an organization they prefer. that's what they need to do and it's the only thing to do right now with regards to his job. i just think it's a dick move to throw shade at any nfl organization when there are going to be such huge, huge question marks about tua's health moving forward after the draft. acting like it's not an issue at all is a strategic bit on their end, but to be so smug and arrogant about it just turns off a regular nobody like me.
if i was a rich owner with a team that did poorly and is in huge need of improving talent on their team, i would not touch tua with my first round pick.
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i understand he knows what he's doing with regards to getting tua drafted. they're going to do all of the right things to make sure he's a top pick and of course try to steer him towards an organization they prefer. that's what they need to do and it's the only thing to do right now with regards to his job. i just think it's a dick move to throw shade at any nfl organization when there are going to be such huge, huge question marks about tua's health moving forward after the draft. acting like it's not an issue at all is a strategic bit on their end, but to be so smug and arrogant about it just turns off a regular nobody like me.
if i was a rich owner with a team that did poorly and is in huge need of improving talent on their team, i would not touch tua with my first round pick.
He's been doing this 40 years, I'm pretty sure he and Mike Brown know what they think of each other.
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He's been doing this 40 years, I'm pretty sure he and Mike Brown know what they think of each other.
Pretty much yeah
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Tua apparently given a very positive medical update today.
I didn't think he'd be in play for the Redskins given the fact that Snyder essentially made the pick to bring in Haskins, but crazier excrement has happened.
I still think we see Burrows go 1, Young go 2 and the Lions try and shop the pick to Miami/Los Angeles/Carolina (depending on Cam's progression closer to the draft). Tua being there at 5 to Miami isn't the sure thing it was a month ago.
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Tua cleared for football activities
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Sign this beast
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Excellent. A healthy Tua is a virtual lock for the top 10. Hopefully that also means there is some more QB demand and at least 3 go top 10