Jet Offensive
New York Jets Football => Game Day Threads => Topic started by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 10:38:34 AM
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Jets Inactives:
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Pats Inactives:
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Pats down starting center and lt, rt is hurt but playing.
we're still gonna get fucked up
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Luke Fucks
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Let's shock the freaking world.
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Let's shock the freaking world.
We already fired Todd Bowles
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Brandon Bolden gets the first touch of the game for New England. The disrespect.
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This game is dildos, I might just go to the gym and start bye week early.
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Yep, this is gonna be a disaster.
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Yep, this is gonna be a disaster.
breaking news
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Cut this entire OL
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This is an uttah disastah
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This game is dildos, I might just go to the gym and start bye week early.
Way ahead of you
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Cut this entire OL
Our offense might be better off just sending Robby on fly routes and chucking it deep to him every time and hoping for the best.
CALL DA BOMB
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what kind of freaking play calling is this? Is Bowles back?
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what kind of freaking play calling is this? Is Bowles back?
This is all the fault of injuries and Mike Maccagnan and the weather and anything else I can think of that isn't Adam Gase, Gregg Williams or any of their coaches.
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you know these fucks are going to rack it up and completely embarrass us
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This is all the fault of injuries and Mike Maccagnan and the weather and anything else I can think of that isn't Adam Gase, Gregg Williams or any of their coaches.
The coaches suck, but if there was ever a time you could use injuries to excuse a team's excrement performance it's now. Losing QB and captain of the defense this early in the season is going to be a disaster for the majority of NFL teams, and we weren't great to begin with.
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Glad I bet the farm on Pats -6.5 in the first quarter
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Gase's "system" is proving to be amazing
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Lachlan Edwards freaking blows
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The coaches suck, but if there was ever a time you could use injuries to excuse a team's excrement performance it's now. Losing QB and captain of the defense this early in the season is going to be a disaster for the majority of NFL teams, and we weren't great to begin with.
If a coach whose entire reputation is predicated upon offense can't scheme something with the best all purpose back in the game and a fully healthy offensive line, they're to blame.
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This is the worst offensive line performance through 3 weeks I've ever seen.
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First drive looked promising
Now it's time to put on the chiefs Ravens
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If a coach whose entire reputation is predicated upon offense can't scheme something with the best all purpose back in the game and a fully healthy offensive line, they're to blame.
The OL is not good and we're playing freaking Luke Falk at QB, not sure how you want him to scheme against stacked boxes with that situation.
The offense is still underperforming relative to what it should be, but you shouldn't expect it to be anything but trash
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Gase realizes that the offensive line isn't going to give our receivers enough time to get open down the field against this defense. That, along with having a 3rd string quarterback under under center, is the reason why we're going ultra conservative. We have no chance in this game.
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The OL is not good and we're playing freaking Luke Falk at QB, not sure how you want him to scheme against stacked boxes with that situation.
The offense is still underperforming relative to what it should be, but you shouldn't expect it to be anything but trash
If the freaking Jags can work with minshew then Gase should be able to do something with Falk
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The OL is not good and we're playing freaking Luke Falk at QB, not sure how you want him to scheme against stacked boxes with that situation.
The offense is still underperforming relative to what it should be, but you shouldn't expect it to be anything but trash
I did and do expect it to be trash, largely because it's so badly coached.
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The OL is not good and we're playing freaking Luke Falk at QB, not sure how you want him to scheme against stacked boxes with that situation.
The offense is still underperforming relative to what it should be, but you shouldn't expect it to be anything but trash
This. I'd really like to know what JE and Mike McCarthy would do in this situation.
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this is a serious question: can we forfeit mid game?
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Down two scores now, time to injure
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Winner winner chicken dinner. Pat's -6.5 in the first quarter. Easy cover
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This. I'd really like to know what JE and Mike McCarthy would do in this situation.
Personally I'd do nothing, because I'm not an NFL coach.
What I would expect from an NFL coach, especially one with a reputation for fetching Peyton Manning's coffee order running an effective offense, is an offensive line that functions on at least a basic level. They aren't getting overpowered by superior moves or complex stunting, they're plain whiffing. They're leaving huge gaps for rushers to run through unimpeded, and have done for three games now. Good coaches can get OK performances from mediocre talent. This is a coaching staff making a mediocre roster less than the sum of its parts.
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Roberts celebrating for doing nothing in particular
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The good news is there is no game next week.
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Patriots almost got the cover and the second quarter is just underway
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Jets should blitz every play from here on out. Hope someone kills Brady. We can't cover with 8DBs so who cares
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Isn't Frank Pollack supposed to be a great offensive line coach? Why isn't he getting any excrement?
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Isn't Frank Pollack supposed to be a great offensive line coach? Why isn't he getting any excrement?
He came with Gase. Every single one of the coaches not called Boyer needs to freak off.
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He came with Gase. Every single one of the coaches not called Boyer needs to freak off.
He was in Cincinnati last year, and Dallas before that. He had a reputation for being a great offensive line coach.
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Wow what a great throw to Gilmore by Falk, he nearly caught it in bounds, good defense by Robby Anderson
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for freak sake take Bell out of this game and don't let him suffer this excrement
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3 and out city baybayyyy
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You guys knew this excrement was gonna happen.
We need to rebuild our oline in the worst way.
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You guys knew this excrement was gonna happen.
We need to rebuild our oline in the worst way.
Well, unless Darnold cures most of our offensive ills, we will pick high enough in the draft to get a premier OL.
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I'm not interested in defending Gase (I was not supportive of his hiring) but I think it's ludicrous to call for his immediate execution given the circumstances.
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He was in Cincinnati last year, and Dallas before that. He had a reputation for being a great offensive line coach.
Fairly sure I could be a passable OL coach with Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick and Zack Martin in the room. Good coaches make mediocre players better - look at the guy coaching the opposing line today.
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Well, unless Darnold cures most of our offensive ills, we will pick high enough in the draft to get a premier OL.
I was watching Georgia/Notre Dame last night....sign me up for that Andrew Thomas kid in the first round
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Fairly sure I could be a passable OL coach with Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick and Zack Martin in the room. Good coaches make mediocre players better - look at the guy coaching the opposing line today.
You'll see no argument from me. I'm only saying that was his reputation.
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I'm not interested in defending Gase (I was not supportive of his hiring) but I think it's ludicrous to call for his immediate execution given the circumstances.
I didn't want him from the outset and every single game further proves why. It's disingenuous to just give him a pass for the team absolutely shitting the bed against the Patriots because we've got a couple of injuries.
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I'm not interested in defending Gase (I was not supportive of his hiring) but I think it's ludicrous to call for his immediate execution given the circumstances.
Agreed, but the way this board is, not wanting to execute Gase means you're supporting him. That's basically how I felt about Geno.
I'm not opposed to firing Gase at the end of the year if this continues. I just don't think you can judge him right now. All offseason, the refrain about the Jets was, "The starting lineup is solid, but they have no depth." Well, we've been as ravaged by injuries as any team in the NFL, and the lack of depth is getting exposed. And the two major problem areas entering the season (OL and CB) have remained problems, with OL being far worse than anyone would have thought.
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we did it! a stop
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Pats will have more points than Jets total yards
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I didn't want him from the outset and every single game further proves why. It's disingenuous to just give him a pass for the team absolutely shitting the bed against the Patriots because we've got a couple of injuries.
The Pats have let up 6 points combined in their last 3 games, including games against the Rams and Steelers.
It's not a pass because, if you include vs the Browns last week the team still looks way too flat. But it's absurd in the circumstances to get mad at the scheming. If you want to get mad at the motivation that's fine, but 99% of coaches would not succeed with the way things currently are
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Pats will have more yards than Jets total yards
Bold prediction.
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Adam Gases wildcat!! woooo
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freak our line sucks
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Bold prediction.
Sorry. Damn autocorrect
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I didn't want him from the outset and every single game further proves why. It's disingenuous to just give him a pass for the team absolutely shitting the bed against the Patriots because we've got a couple of injuries.
A couple of injuries? We're missing both of our starting inside linebackers (one of whom is responsible for calling out plays on defense, the other had this responsibility last year), our #2 receiver is on IR, our stud tight end is suspended, our offensive line is hobbled (in addition to being incompetent), and we're down to our 3rd string quarterback who's making his first career start against the Patriots in Foxborough for crying out loud! Who's really being disingenuous?
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We're paying Bellamy $4 million a year and he can't even get on the field at WR over Braxton Berrios. Not like Falk would get him the ball anyway, but still
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ya, celebrate that average tackle on another punt return. thats bout all you'll get to celebrate
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Sorry. Damn autocorrect
Your defense is that autocorrect changed "points" into "yards?"
I call BS.
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We're paying Bellamy $4 million a year and he can't even get on the field at WR over Braxton Berrios. Not like Falk would get him the ball anyway, but still
Bellamy is a special teamer. Never understood why we gave him so much money.
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Your defense is that autocorrect changed "points" into "yards?"
I call BS.
may have just been hitting the predictable text next word
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My biggest concern on offense going into this year, after the offensive line, was the depth on receiver. It was not reasonable to rely on the top three guys staying healthy, given their history, and we're already seeing the consequences of having no one competent behind them.
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have we had a 1st down yet?
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The announcers said pregame that any drive that ends in a kick is a positive.
6 drives, 6 kicks. Success.
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have we had a 1st down yet?
yeah there was one on the first drive
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We have 3 first downs, but 0-6 on 3rd down.
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Alright, let's get 7 points here before halftime and make a game out of it!
Just kidding. Nothing matters.
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ya run it out, dont embarrass yourselves anymore
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yeah there was one on the first drive
i was taking a excrement, must have missed it
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edelman is questionable, so he'll likely not come back.
why risk injury against us? lmao
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Why the freak would you fair catch that
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Jets: 15 straight quarters without a TD at Gillete
lmao were terrible
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LOL
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I believe that might be our first interception thrown this season.
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Solid punt return by McCourty.
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who the freak was that even supposed to be to? nobody was withing 15 freaking yards!!
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Wow what a scheme freak up by Gase there, can't believe he made Falk throw that
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Maybe that's why we haven't been taking shots down the field...
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Maybe that's why we haven't been taking shots down the field...
Falk doesn't have an NFL-caliber arm.
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Falk doesn't have an NFL-caliber arm.
No, it's Gase's fault.
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No, it's Gase's fault.
Aw, did I upset you? How rude of me to suggest that maybe the coaching isn't blameless for how abject this team is.
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Aw, did I upset you? How rude of me to suggest that maybe the coaching isn't blameless for how abject this team is.
Not in the slightest. If anything, you're my entertainment throughout this shitshow.
And no one has suggested that the coaching is blameless.
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Even when Falk escapes the pressure he nearly throws a pick lol
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Philly doesn't look too hot right now. Hopefully with two weeks to prepare and a healthy Darnold we'll be able to give them a game.
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Falk is basically the worst kind of quarterback for us to have right now. He doesn't have the arm to take advantage of Robby's deep speed. He doesn't have any mobility to make plays outside the pocket.
And given our offensive line and skill position players, we need our quarterback to be able to do at least one of those things.
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we havent even been on their side of the field yet
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Falk is basically the worst kind of quarterback for us to have right now. He doesn't have the arm to take advantage of Robby's deep speed. He doesn't have any mobility to make plays outside the pocket.
And given our offensive line and skill position players, we need our quarterback to be able to do at least one of those things.
i know a guy...
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Philly doesn't look too hot right now. Hopefully with two weeks to prepare and a healthy Darnold we'll be able to give them a game.
And then we can actually begin to evaluate Gase. Gase was here to develop Sam Darnold. Unless Gase gave Darnold mono, which seems unlikely, the jury is still out on that.
So far, Gase has been underwhelming. I didn't love the hire, but I'll give him the same leash I'll give most Jets coaches. It's not like Gase had any talent in Miami - look at what they did with that roster as soon as he left.
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i know a guy...
I almost brought his name up in that post because he fits both of those criteria, and I do think we would have a much better chance with him.
And it would trigger a significant amount of the fan base, which would be entertaining.
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Not in the slightest. If anything, you're my entertainment throughout this shitshow.
And no one has suggested that the coaching is blameless.
So if you agree that the coaching bears some degree of blame, all we're disagreeing on is how much. Cool.
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That's a hell of a throw.
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We really need to get some corners that aren't a complete trash fire
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Leonard Williams sighting. Too bad it was on 1st & goal, down 23-0.
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Feels bad man
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30-0.
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So if you agree that the coaching bears some degree of blame, all we're disagreeing on is how much. Cool.
Of course the coaching deserves some degree of blame. Even with all of these injuries, it's embarrassing just how bad it's been.
The offensive line has been the biggest disappointment for an individual unit. Not that I thought it would be great, but it's unfathomably bad. Everyone deserves blame for that.
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At least I made some $ on the game. I like getting paid to watch this trash
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I almost brought his name up in that post because he fits both of those criteria, and I do think we would have a much better chance with him.
And it would trigger a significant amount of the fan base, which would be entertaining.
that's honestly the best part.
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Nice catch and run by Chad Pennington there.
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The offensive line has been the biggest disappointment for an individual unit. Not that I thought it would be great, but it's unfathomably bad. Everyone deserves blame for that.
I can't tell you how damning it is of this staff that veteran offensive linemen don't know which of them is responsible for the opponent's best defensive lineman on every play. Step freaking one of any install should be, "Here's who's responsible for Bennett/Garrett/Barr in this package."
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They rush 3 and we can't block them.
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Tight end is suspended, Mr Announcer. Check your media guide.
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We scored!!!
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And an extra point.
Day. Made.
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Screw your touchdown streak, Patriots.
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And an extra point.
Day. Made.
Lolol we have so many other problems that I forgot that I was supposed to also worry about our kicker.
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Tom Brady just tried to throw a block on Jamal Adams in the fourth quarter of a game that they're up by 23 points. Why.
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Tom Brady just tried to throw a block on Jamal Adams in the fourth quarter of a game that they're up by 23 points. Why.
hEs A gAmEr
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Harlan is mistaken, special teams has scored 10, defense 8, offense 8. Not hard to keep track.
In basketball that's a nice balanced attack.
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Lolol we have so many other problems that I forgot that I was supposed to also worry about our kicker.
Problem kind of solved itself.
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The Monday Night Miracle was 30-7 in the 4th quarter.
This game is 30-7 in the 4th quarter.
Coincidence? Yes.
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Didn't know Luke Falk also suited up for Denver today https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1175853098629251073?s=09
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Tom Brady just tried to throw a block on Jamal Adams in the fourth quarter of a game that they're up by 23 points. Why.
Jamal should have finished him. Be the anti-Mo Lewis.
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The D is actually showing themselves reasonably well as the game has gone along.
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7 in the box, we go 4 wide with Bell and still run it lol
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The D is actually showing themselves reasonably well as the game has gone along.
When you allow 3 touchdowns in the first 18 minutes, everything after that is garbage time with our offense. Yes, they've improved, but I can't give them that much credit.
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What the hell are we doing? I know that we have no chance, but it's only a 3-score game. Can we get some tempo?
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What the hell are we doing? I know that we have no chance, but it's only a 3-score game. Can we get some tempo?
i'm half surprised we're not just out there taking knees and running off 45 every time
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i'm half surprised we're not just out there taking knees and running off 45 every time
I also have to remind myself we're starting a shitty QB who wasn't on the roster 2 weeks ago.
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This is some 2007 offensive line play.
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I can't believe they pulled Brady. That's more disrespectful than starting the game with back-to-back plays to Brandon Bolden.
Or maybe he thinks Gregg will bounty Brady's knees.
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I can't believe they pulled Brady. That's more disrespectful than starting the game with back-to-back plays to Brandon Bolden.
Or maybe he thinks Gregg will bounty Brady's knees.
Had his chance.
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Would be nice if the Jets could score another point to cover the +23 for my pool.
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We have a bad o-line and Luke Falk starting at QB. Nothing else matters.
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I also have to remind myself we're starting a shitty QB who wasn't on the roster 2 weeks ago.
Nobody had Falk starting this game or us winning it.
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Hahahaha, freak you Belichick
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This might be the happiest I've been all season
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Would be nice if the Jets could score another point to cover the +23 for my pool.
Jamal comes through. He'll have something to post a million times this week.
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whatttttt
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COVER THAT SPREAD!
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Maybe we can score on offense now
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Can we put the defense out there on offense?
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Nice cameo for #4. Wanna bet Brady comes back?
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Lets not forget the most important thing today. Our kicker has hit 2 extra points.
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I would have gone for 2 there. You're going to need two 2-point conversions anyway. Might as well start the process now.
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Harlan is mistaken, special teams has scored 10, defense 8, offense 8. Not hard to keep track.
In basketball that's a nice balanced attack.
Update:
Defense 14
Special teams 11
Offense 8
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I would have gone for 2 there. You're going to need two 2-point conversions anyway. Might as well start the process now.
16 makes it a 2 score game, then go for 2 twice.
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What a play by Slater
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Also we injured Edelman. Some positives today.
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Why has Roberts turned into Kyle Wilson with the celebrations
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What a play by Slater
freak him.
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freak you Matthew Slater.
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Also we injured Edelman. Some positives today.
Would like a few more of their players to get hurt
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No chance of avoiding a safety here.
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16 makes it a 2 score game, then go for 2 twice.
I'm aware, but 16 is only a 2-score game if you get the 2-pt conversions. You could also go for 2 the first two times, then kick the extra point the last time (or go for 2 the last time).
This way, you get the information early on whether or not you can actually convert two 2-pt conversions. That knowledge allows you to manage the game differently down the stretch.
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What a joke, punting the football here.
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This is where you knock the freak out of Brady.
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Gase coaching to cover the spread as opposed to trying to win.
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What a joke, punting the football here.
They've conceded the game. If there was any chance of them going for it there, they wouldn't have ran it on 3rd and 3.
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Don't care about them not electing to go for it there.
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I'm aware, but 16 is only a 2-score game if you get the 2-pt conversions. You could also go for 2 the first two times, then kick the extra point the last time (or go for 2 the last time).
This way, you get the information early on whether or not you can actually convert two 2-pt conversions. That knowledge allows you to manage the game differently down the stretch.
Keep yourself in the game as long as you can. Kicking the PAT and getting within 2 scores is better than missing the 2 and staying down 3 scores. Yes, you have to make them either way once you're down 30.
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Don't care about them not electing to go for it there.
Derek and I debating a strategy for winning is purely hypothetical, of course.
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We need 2 more TDs to even tie, and the offense hasn't put up that tally all season.
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Have to keep our minds sharp for if/when we're ever in a competitive game again.
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lmao what the freak was that
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4th and 13, game over if you don't convert, and it's a 3 yard pass to robby anderson ok lol
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Keep yourself in the game as long as you can. Kicking the PAT and getting within 2 scores is better than missing the 2 and staying down 3 scores. Yes, you have to make them either way once you're down 30.
Who cares about "keeping yourself in the game." Try to win. The best chance to actually win is to go for 2 early. You don't play to "keep yourself in the game," you play to win the game.
If you miss the 2-point conversion the first time, you know you need to play for 3 more scores, and you'll play accordingly. But if you miss the 2-point conversion the last time, you probably didn't leave yourself enough time to have another possession because you're playing it as if you only need 1 score. You want the extra information.
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4th and 13, game over if you don't convert, and it's a 3 yard pass to robby anderson ok lol
Falk cant throw it farther than 3 yards. It's science.
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Did the Jets kill anyone on the Pats?
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At least we're done with Foxborough for the year.