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Title: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 10:38:34 AM
Jets Inactives:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFFD61HWwAA0WbE.jpg)

Pats Inactives:
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Pats down starting center and lt, rt is hurt but playing.

we're still gonna get fucked up
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: MBGreen on September 22, 2019, 11:54:27 AM
Luke Fucks
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 12:01:41 PM
Let's shock the freaking world.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: MBGreen on September 22, 2019, 12:08:11 PM
Let's shock the freaking world.
We already fired Todd Bowles
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 12:11:59 PM
Brandon Bolden gets the first touch of the game for New England. The disrespect.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 12:15:16 PM
This game is dildos, I might just go to the gym and start bye week early.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 12:15:29 PM
Yep, this is gonna be a disaster.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 12:17:05 PM
Yep, this is gonna be a disaster.

breaking news
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: dcm1602 on September 22, 2019, 12:22:24 PM
Cut this entire OL
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 12:22:45 PM
This is an uttah disastah
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: MBGreen on September 22, 2019, 12:23:44 PM
This game is dildos, I might just go to the gym and start bye week early.
Way ahead of you
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 12:24:29 PM
Cut this entire OL
Our offense might be better off just sending Robby on fly routes and chucking it deep to him every time and hoping for the best.

CALL DA BOMB
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: ScotlandJet on September 22, 2019, 12:25:55 PM
what kind of freaking play calling is this? Is Bowles back?
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 12:28:10 PM
what kind of freaking play calling is this? Is Bowles back?

This is all the fault of injuries and Mike Maccagnan and the weather and anything else I can think of that isn't Adam Gase, Gregg Williams or any of their coaches.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: ScotlandJet on September 22, 2019, 12:28:29 PM
you know these fucks are going to rack it up and completely embarrass us
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 12:29:54 PM
This is all the fault of injuries and Mike Maccagnan and the weather and anything else I can think of that isn't Adam Gase, Gregg Williams or any of their coaches.

The coaches suck, but if there was ever a time you could use injuries to excuse a team's excrement performance it's now. Losing QB and captain of the defense this early in the season is going to be a disaster for the majority of NFL teams, and we weren't great to begin with.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 22, 2019, 12:30:32 PM
Glad I bet the farm on Pats -6.5 in the first quarter
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 22, 2019, 12:32:49 PM
Gase's "system" is proving to be amazing
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 22, 2019, 12:33:13 PM
Lachlan Edwards freaking blows
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 12:33:16 PM
The coaches suck, but if there was ever a time you could use injuries to excuse a team's excrement performance it's now. Losing QB and captain of the defense this early in the season is going to be a disaster for the majority of NFL teams, and we weren't great to begin with.

If a coach whose entire reputation is predicated upon offense can't scheme something with the best all purpose back in the game and a fully healthy offensive line, they're to blame.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 12:33:55 PM
This is the worst offensive line performance through 3 weeks I've ever seen.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: dcm1602 on September 22, 2019, 12:33:57 PM
First drive looked promising

Now it's time to put on the chiefs Ravens
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 12:34:49 PM
If a coach whose entire reputation is predicated upon offense can't scheme something with the best all purpose back in the game and a fully healthy offensive line, they're to blame.

The OL is not good and we're playing freaking Luke Falk at QB, not sure how you want him to scheme against stacked boxes with that situation.

The offense is still underperforming relative to what it should be, but you shouldn't expect it to be anything but trash
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 12:35:58 PM
Gase realizes that the offensive line isn't going to give our receivers enough time to get open down the field against this defense. That, along with having a 3rd string quarterback under under center, is the reason why we're going ultra conservative. We have no chance in this game.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 22, 2019, 12:36:43 PM
The OL is not good and we're playing freaking Luke Falk at QB, not sure how you want him to scheme against stacked boxes with that situation.

The offense is still underperforming relative to what it should be, but you shouldn't expect it to be anything but trash

If the freaking Jags can work with minshew then Gase should be able to do something with Falk
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 12:36:49 PM
The OL is not good and we're playing freaking Luke Falk at QB, not sure how you want him to scheme against stacked boxes with that situation.

The offense is still underperforming relative to what it should be, but you shouldn't expect it to be anything but trash

I did and do expect it to be trash, largely because it's so badly coached.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 12:37:43 PM
The OL is not good and we're playing freaking Luke Falk at QB, not sure how you want him to scheme against stacked boxes with that situation.

The offense is still underperforming relative to what it should be, but you shouldn't expect it to be anything but trash

This. I'd really like to know what JE and Mike McCarthy would do in this situation.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: ScotlandJet on September 22, 2019, 12:38:49 PM
this is a serious question: can we forfeit mid game? 
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Pope on September 22, 2019, 12:38:57 PM
Down two scores now, time to injure
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 22, 2019, 12:40:04 PM
Winner winner chicken dinner. Pat's -6.5 in the first quarter. Easy cover
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 12:41:56 PM
This. I'd really like to know what JE and Mike McCarthy would do in this situation.

Personally I'd do nothing, because I'm not an NFL coach.

What I would expect from an NFL coach, especially one with a reputation for fetching Peyton Manning's coffee order running an effective offense, is an offensive line that functions on at least a basic level. They aren't getting overpowered by superior moves or complex stunting, they're plain whiffing. They're leaving huge gaps for rushers to run through unimpeded, and have done for three games now. Good coaches can get OK performances from mediocre talent. This is a coaching staff making a mediocre roster less than the sum of its parts.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Pope on September 22, 2019, 12:42:12 PM
Roberts celebrating for doing nothing in particular
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 12:42:47 PM
The good news is there is no game next week.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Pope on September 22, 2019, 12:42:54 PM
Patriots almost got the cover and the second quarter is just underway
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 22, 2019, 12:45:31 PM
Jets should blitz every play from here on out. Hope someone kills Brady. We can't cover with 8DBs so who cares
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 12:48:37 PM
Isn't Frank Pollack supposed to be a great offensive line coach? Why isn't he getting any excrement?
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 12:49:18 PM
Isn't Frank Pollack supposed to be a great offensive line coach? Why isn't he getting any excrement?

He came with Gase. Every single one of the coaches not called Boyer needs to freak off.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 12:50:25 PM
He came with Gase. Every single one of the coaches not called Boyer needs to freak off.

He was in Cincinnati last year, and Dallas before that. He had a reputation for being a great offensive line coach.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 12:50:43 PM
Wow what a great throw to Gilmore by Falk, he nearly caught it in bounds, good defense by Robby Anderson
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: ScotlandJet on September 22, 2019, 12:51:23 PM
for freak sake take Bell out of this game and don't let him suffer this excrement
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 12:51:38 PM
3 and out city baybayyyy
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: MBGreen on September 22, 2019, 12:52:30 PM
You guys knew this excrement was gonna happen.

We need to rebuild our oline in the worst way.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 12:53:40 PM
You guys knew this excrement was gonna happen.

We need to rebuild our oline in the worst way.
Well, unless Darnold cures most of our offensive ills, we will pick high enough in the draft to get a premier OL.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 12:54:15 PM
I'm not interested in defending Gase (I was not supportive of his hiring) but I think it's ludicrous to call for his immediate execution given the circumstances.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 12:54:47 PM
He was in Cincinnati last year, and Dallas before that. He had a reputation for being a great offensive line coach.

Fairly sure I could be a passable OL coach with Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick and Zack Martin in the room. Good coaches make mediocre players better - look at the guy coaching the opposing line today.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: MBGreen on September 22, 2019, 12:55:57 PM
Well, unless Darnold cures most of our offensive ills, we will pick high enough in the draft to get a premier OL.
I was watching Georgia/Notre Dame last night....sign me up for that Andrew Thomas kid in the first round
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 12:56:01 PM
Fairly sure I could be a passable OL coach with Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick and Zack Martin in the room. Good coaches make mediocre players better - look at the guy coaching the opposing line today.

You'll see no argument from me. I'm only saying that was his reputation.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 12:56:31 PM
I'm not interested in defending Gase (I was not supportive of his hiring) but I think it's ludicrous to call for his immediate execution given the circumstances.

I didn't want him from the outset and every single game further proves why. It's disingenuous to just give him a pass for the team absolutely shitting the bed against the Patriots because we've got a couple of injuries.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 12:57:40 PM
I'm not interested in defending Gase (I was not supportive of his hiring) but I think it's ludicrous to call for his immediate execution given the circumstances.
Agreed, but the way this board is, not wanting to execute Gase means you're supporting him. That's basically how I felt about Geno.

I'm not opposed to firing Gase at the end of the year if this continues. I just don't think you can judge him right now. All offseason, the refrain about the Jets was, "The starting lineup is solid, but they have no depth." Well, we've been as ravaged by injuries as any team in the NFL, and the lack of depth is getting exposed. And the two major problem areas entering the season (OL and CB) have remained problems, with OL being far worse than anyone would have thought.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 12:58:41 PM
we did it! a stop
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 22, 2019, 12:58:45 PM
Pats will have more points than Jets total yards
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 12:58:58 PM
I didn't want him from the outset and every single game further proves why. It's disingenuous to just give him a pass for the team absolutely shitting the bed against the Patriots because we've got a couple of injuries.

The Pats have let up 6 points combined in their last 3 games, including games against the Rams and Steelers.

It's not a pass because, if you include vs the Browns last week the team still looks way too flat. But it's absurd in the circumstances to get mad at the scheming. If you want to get mad at the motivation that's fine, but 99% of coaches would not succeed with the way things currently are
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 12:59:05 PM
Pats will have more yards than Jets total yards

Bold prediction.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 22, 2019, 01:02:39 PM
Adam Gases wildcat!! woooo
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 01:03:54 PM
freak our line sucks
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 22, 2019, 01:04:11 PM
Bold prediction.

Sorry. Damn autocorrect
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 01:05:32 PM
I didn't want him from the outset and every single game further proves why. It's disingenuous to just give him a pass for the team absolutely shitting the bed against the Patriots because we've got a couple of injuries.

A couple of injuries? We're missing both of our starting inside linebackers (one of whom is responsible for calling out plays on defense, the other had this responsibility last year), our #2 receiver is on IR, our stud tight end is suspended, our offensive line is hobbled (in addition to being incompetent), and we're down to our 3rd string quarterback who's making his first career start against the Patriots in Foxborough for crying out loud! Who's really being disingenuous?
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 01:05:34 PM
We're paying Bellamy $4 million a year and he can't even get on the field at WR over Braxton Berrios. Not like Falk would get him the ball anyway, but still
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 01:05:40 PM
ya, celebrate that average tackle on another punt return. thats bout all you'll get to celebrate
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 01:05:44 PM
Sorry. Damn autocorrect
Your defense is that autocorrect changed "points" into "yards?"

I call BS.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 01:06:13 PM
We're paying Bellamy $4 million a year and he can't even get on the field at WR over Braxton Berrios. Not like Falk would get him the ball anyway, but still
Bellamy is a special teamer. Never understood why we gave him so much money.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 01:08:23 PM
Your defense is that autocorrect changed "points" into "yards?"

I call BS.

may have just been hitting the predictable text next word
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 01:10:25 PM
My biggest concern on offense going into this year, after the offensive line, was the depth on receiver. It was not reasonable to rely on the top three guys staying healthy, given their history, and we're already seeing the consequences of having no one competent behind them.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 01:13:28 PM
have we had a 1st down yet?
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 01:14:06 PM
The announcers said pregame that any drive that ends in a kick is a positive.

6 drives, 6 kicks. Success.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 01:16:38 PM
have we had a 1st down yet?

yeah there was one on the first drive
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 01:18:34 PM
We have 3 first downs, but 0-6 on 3rd down.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 01:22:39 PM
Alright, let's get 7 points here before halftime and make a game out of it!

Just kidding. Nothing matters.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 01:23:24 PM
ya run it out, dont embarrass yourselves anymore
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 01:23:50 PM
yeah there was one on the first drive

i was taking a excrement, must have missed it
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 01:40:40 PM
edelman is questionable, so he'll likely not come back.

why risk injury against us? lmao
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Pope on September 22, 2019, 01:43:08 PM
Why the freak would you fair catch that
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 01:44:56 PM
Jets: 15 straight quarters without a TD at Gillete

lmao were terrible
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 01:45:25 PM
LOL
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 01:45:41 PM
I believe that might be our first interception thrown this season.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 01:46:02 PM
Solid punt return by McCourty.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
who the freak was that even supposed to be to? nobody was withing 15 freaking yards!!
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 01:46:23 PM
Wow what a scheme freak up by Gase there, can't believe he made Falk throw that
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 01:47:10 PM
Maybe that's why we haven't been taking shots down the field...
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 01:48:23 PM
Maybe that's why we haven't been taking shots down the field...
Falk doesn't have an NFL-caliber arm.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 01:49:09 PM
Falk doesn't have an NFL-caliber arm.

No, it's Gase's fault.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 01:50:14 PM
No, it's Gase's fault.

Aw, did I upset you? How rude of me to suggest that maybe the coaching isn't blameless for how abject this team is.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 01:53:08 PM
Aw, did I upset you? How rude of me to suggest that maybe the coaching isn't blameless for how abject this team is.

Not in the slightest. If anything, you're my entertainment throughout this shitshow.

And no one has suggested that the coaching is blameless.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 01:56:11 PM
Even when Falk escapes the pressure he nearly throws a pick lol
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 01:56:31 PM
Philly doesn't look too hot right now. Hopefully with two weeks to prepare and a healthy Darnold we'll be able to give them a game.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 01:57:35 PM
Falk is basically the worst kind of quarterback for us to have right now. He doesn't have the arm to take advantage of Robby's deep speed. He doesn't have any mobility to make plays outside the pocket.

And given our offensive line and skill position players, we need our quarterback to be able to do at least one of those things.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 01:58:26 PM
we havent even been on their side of the field yet
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 01:58:54 PM
Falk is basically the worst kind of quarterback for us to have right now. He doesn't have the arm to take advantage of Robby's deep speed. He doesn't have any mobility to make plays outside the pocket.

And given our offensive line and skill position players, we need our quarterback to be able to do at least one of those things.

i know a guy...
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 01:59:46 PM
Philly doesn't look too hot right now. Hopefully with two weeks to prepare and a healthy Darnold we'll be able to give them a game.
And then we can actually begin to evaluate Gase. Gase was here to develop Sam Darnold. Unless Gase gave Darnold mono, which seems unlikely, the jury is still out on that.

So far, Gase has been underwhelming. I didn't love the hire, but I'll give him the same leash I'll give most Jets coaches. It's not like Gase had any talent in Miami - look at what they did with that roster as soon as he left.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:01:13 PM
i know a guy...
I almost brought his name up in that post because he fits both of those criteria, and I do think we would have a much better chance with him.

And it would trigger a significant amount of the fan base, which would be entertaining.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 02:04:08 PM
Not in the slightest. If anything, you're my entertainment throughout this shitshow.

And no one has suggested that the coaching is blameless.

So if you agree that the coaching bears some degree of blame, all we're disagreeing on is how much. Cool.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 02:04:56 PM
That's a hell of a throw.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 02:06:16 PM
We really need to get some corners that aren't a complete trash fire
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:06:29 PM
Leonard Williams sighting. Too bad it was on 1st & goal, down 23-0.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 02:07:19 PM
Feels bad man
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:07:24 PM
30-0.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:07:49 PM
So if you agree that the coaching bears some degree of blame, all we're disagreeing on is how much. Cool.
Of course the coaching deserves some degree of blame. Even with all of these injuries, it's embarrassing just how bad it's been.

The offensive line has been the biggest disappointment for an individual unit. Not that I thought it would be great, but it's unfathomably bad. Everyone deserves blame for that.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 22, 2019, 02:08:50 PM
At least I made some $ on the game. I like getting paid to watch this trash
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 02:09:58 PM
I almost brought his name up in that post because he fits both of those criteria, and I do think we would have a much better chance with him.

And it would trigger a significant amount of the fan base, which would be entertaining.

that's honestly the best part.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:12:23 PM
Nice catch and run by Chad Pennington there.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: reuben on September 22, 2019, 02:13:33 PM
The offensive line has been the biggest disappointment for an individual unit. Not that I thought it would be great, but it's unfathomably bad. Everyone deserves blame for that.

I can't tell you how damning it is of this staff that veteran offensive linemen don't know which of them is responsible for the opponent's best defensive lineman on every play.  Step freaking one of any install should be, "Here's who's responsible for Bennett/Garrett/Barr in this package."   

Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:16:12 PM
They rush 3 and we can't block them.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:17:23 PM
Tight end is suspended, Mr Announcer. Check your media guide.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Pope on September 22, 2019, 02:17:42 PM
We scored!!!
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:19:59 PM
And an extra point.

Day. Made.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:20:26 PM
Screw your touchdown streak, Patriots.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:21:05 PM
And an extra point.

Day. Made.
Lolol we have so many other problems that I forgot that I was supposed to also worry about our kicker.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 02:26:12 PM
Tom Brady just tried to throw a block on Jamal Adams in the fourth quarter of a game that they're up by 23 points. Why.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 02:27:26 PM
Tom Brady just tried to throw a block on Jamal Adams in the fourth quarter of a game that they're up by 23 points. Why.

hEs A gAmEr
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:27:56 PM
Harlan is mistaken, special teams has scored 10, defense 8, offense 8. Not hard to keep track.

In basketball that's a nice balanced attack.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:28:55 PM
Lolol we have so many other problems that I forgot that I was supposed to also worry about our kicker.

Problem kind of solved itself.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:29:09 PM
The Monday Night Miracle was 30-7 in the 4th quarter.

This game is 30-7 in the 4th quarter.

Coincidence? Yes.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 02:29:22 PM
Didn't know Luke Falk also suited up for Denver today https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1175853098629251073?s=09
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:30:12 PM
Tom Brady just tried to throw a block on Jamal Adams in the fourth quarter of a game that they're up by 23 points. Why.

Jamal should have finished him. Be the anti-Mo Lewis.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:31:39 PM
The D is actually showing themselves reasonably well as the game has gone along.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 02:33:03 PM
7 in the box, we go 4 wide with Bell and still run it lol
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:34:21 PM
The D is actually showing themselves reasonably well as the game has gone along.
When you allow 3 touchdowns in the first 18 minutes, everything after that is garbage time with our offense. Yes, they've improved, but I can't give them that much credit.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:35:24 PM
What the hell are we doing? I know that we have no chance, but it's only a 3-score game. Can we get some tempo?
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 02:36:00 PM
What the hell are we doing? I know that we have no chance, but it's only a 3-score game. Can we get some tempo?

i'm half surprised we're not just out there taking knees and running off 45 every time
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:37:05 PM
i'm half surprised we're not just out there taking knees and running off 45 every time
I also have to remind myself we're starting a shitty QB who wasn't on the roster 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: reuben on September 22, 2019, 02:37:26 PM
This is some 2007 offensive line play. 
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:39:22 PM
I can't believe they pulled Brady. That's more disrespectful than starting the game with back-to-back plays to Brandon Bolden.

Or maybe he thinks Gregg will bounty Brady's knees.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:40:31 PM
I can't believe they pulled Brady. That's more disrespectful than starting the game with back-to-back plays to Brandon Bolden.

Or maybe he thinks Gregg will bounty Brady's knees.

Had his chance.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:41:10 PM
Would be nice if the Jets could score another point to cover the +23 for my pool.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: bojanglesman on September 22, 2019, 02:41:16 PM
We have a bad o-line and Luke Falk starting at QB.  Nothing else matters. 
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:41:29 PM
I also have to remind myself we're starting a shitty QB who wasn't on the roster 2 weeks ago.

Nobody had Falk starting this game or us winning it.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Johnny English on September 22, 2019, 02:41:40 PM
Hahahaha, freak you Belichick
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 02:41:49 PM
This might be the happiest I've been all season
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:42:31 PM
Would be nice if the Jets could score another point to cover the +23 for my pool.

Jamal comes through. He'll have something to post a million times this week.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 02:42:32 PM
whatttttt
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:43:22 PM
COVER THAT SPREAD!
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Pope on September 22, 2019, 02:43:42 PM
Maybe we can score on offense now
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: bojanglesman on September 22, 2019, 02:44:27 PM
Can we put the defense out there on offense?
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:45:10 PM
Nice cameo for #4. Wanna bet Brady comes back?
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: bojanglesman on September 22, 2019, 02:45:46 PM
Lets not forget the most important thing today.  Our kicker has hit 2 extra points.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:46:36 PM
I would have gone for 2 there. You're going to need two 2-point conversions anyway. Might as well start the process now.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:46:45 PM
Harlan is mistaken, special teams has scored 10, defense 8, offense 8. Not hard to keep track.

In basketball that's a nice balanced attack.

Update:

Defense 14
Special teams 11
Offense 8
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:47:23 PM
I would have gone for 2 there. You're going to need two 2-point conversions anyway. Might as well start the process now.

16 makes it a 2 score game, then go for 2 twice.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Pope on September 22, 2019, 02:48:02 PM
What a play by Slater
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: bojanglesman on September 22, 2019, 02:48:09 PM
Also we injured Edelman.  Some positives today.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 02:48:30 PM
Why has Roberts turned into Kyle Wilson with the celebrations
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:48:35 PM
What a play by Slater

freak him.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: steves850 on September 22, 2019, 02:48:39 PM
freak you Matthew Slater.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Pope on September 22, 2019, 02:48:42 PM
Also we injured Edelman.  Some positives today.
Would like a few more of their players to get hurt
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: bojanglesman on September 22, 2019, 02:49:03 PM
No chance of avoiding a safety here.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:49:53 PM
16 makes it a 2 score game, then go for 2 twice.
I'm aware, but 16 is only a 2-score game if you get the 2-pt conversions. You could also go for 2 the first two times, then kick the extra point the last time (or go for 2 the last time).

This way, you get the information early on whether or not you can actually convert two 2-pt conversions. That knowledge allows you to manage the game differently down the stretch.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:52:16 PM
What a joke, punting the football here.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:52:23 PM
This is where you knock the freak out of Brady.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 02:53:39 PM
Gase coaching to cover the spread as opposed to trying to win.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 02:53:55 PM
What a joke, punting the football here.

They've conceded the game. If there was any chance of them going for it there, they wouldn't have ran it on 3rd and 3.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 22, 2019, 02:55:26 PM
Don't care about them not electing to go for it there.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:55:31 PM
I'm aware, but 16 is only a 2-score game if you get the 2-pt conversions. You could also go for 2 the first two times, then kick the extra point the last time (or go for 2 the last time).

This way, you get the information early on whether or not you can actually convert two 2-pt conversions. That knowledge allows you to manage the game differently down the stretch.

Keep yourself in the game as long as you can. Kicking the PAT and getting within 2 scores is better than missing the 2 and staying down 3 scores. Yes, you have to make them either way once you're down 30.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:57:11 PM
Don't care about them not electing to go for it there.

 Derek and I debating a strategy for winning is purely hypothetical, of course.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 02:57:42 PM
We need 2 more TDs to even tie, and the offense hasn't put up that tally all season.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 02:59:43 PM
Have to keep our minds sharp for if/when we're ever in a competitive game again.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: IATA on September 22, 2019, 03:01:02 PM
lmao what the freak was that
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Jumbo on September 22, 2019, 03:01:08 PM
4th and 13, game over if you don't convert, and it's a 3 yard pass to robby anderson ok lol
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 22, 2019, 03:01:19 PM
Keep yourself in the game as long as you can. Kicking the PAT and getting within 2 scores is better than missing the 2 and staying down 3 scores. Yes, you have to make them either way once you're down 30.
Who cares about "keeping yourself in the game." Try to win. The best chance to actually win is to go for 2 early. You don't play to "keep yourself in the game," you play to win the game.

If you miss the 2-point conversion the first time, you know you need to play for 3 more scores, and you'll play accordingly. But if you miss the 2-point conversion the last time, you probably didn't leave yourself enough time to have another possession because you're playing it as if you only need 1 score. You want the extra information.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: bojanglesman on September 22, 2019, 03:01:37 PM
4th and 13, game over if you don't convert, and it's a 3 yard pass to robby anderson ok lol
Falk cant throw it farther than 3 yards.  It's science.
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: dcm1602 on September 22, 2019, 03:04:04 PM
Did the Jets kill anyone on the Pats?
Title: Re: 2019 Week 3: Jets at Patriots
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 22, 2019, 03:05:24 PM
At least we're done with Foxborough for the year.