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New York Jets Football => ...And The Home Of The Jets => Topic started by: Libero_2 on August 15, 2019, 11:13:59 PM
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Thread is simple enough, predict the final roster. We’ve now seen 2 preseason games, have a pretty good idea who the top guys are and have some data on the lower roster guys. Guttural bragging rights to the guy with the best prediction.
I’ll probably put something together this weekend.
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8/15 predictions:
QB
Sam Darnold
Trevor Siemian
RB
Le'Veon Bell
Ty Montgomery
Bilal Powell
Trenton Cannon
WR
Robby Anderson
Quincy Enunwa
Jamison Crowder
Josh Bellamy
Deontay Burnett
Greg Dortch
TE
Trevon Wesco
Ryan Griffin
Eric Tomlinson
(Chris Herndon suspended)
OL
Kelvin Beachum
Kelechi Osemele
Ryan Kalil
Brian Winters
Brandon Shell
Chuma Edoga
Tom Compton
Alex Lewis
Jonotthan Harrison
(Brent Qvale to IR)
DL
Leonard Williams
Quinnen Williams
Steve McLendon
Henry Anderson
Bronson Kaufusi
Foley Fatukasi
Nathan Shepherd
LB
Brandon Copeland
C.J. Mosley
Avery Williamson
Jordan Jenkins
Neville Hewitt
Frankie Luvu
Blake Cashman
Jachai Polite
CB
Darryl Roberts
Trumaine Johnson
Brian Poole
Kyron Brown
Arthur Maulet
Blessuan Austin
S
Jamal Adams
Marcus Maye
Rontez Miles
Brandon Bryant
Doug Middleton
ST
Lachlan Edwards
Greg Joseph
Thomas Hennessey
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Oof. CB is such a glaring hole.
Its nice to see that the trenches has so much depth though. I'm not sure if Cannon makes the team. Is his ability as a gunner enough to get him a roster spot? He adds nothing on offense, and I'm not convinced that he's a better KR than Dortch.
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Oof. CB is such a glaring hole.
Its nice to see that the trenches has so much depth though. I'm not sure if Cannon makes the team. Is his ability as a gunner enough to get him a roster spot? He adds nothing on offense, and I'm not convinced that he's a better KR than Dortch.
I'm not going to lie, some of those names that I put on the roster at CB might have been made up. It's comical. I know next-to-nothing about Maulet and Kyron Brown.
I didn't put that much effort into the above list. I kind of just made projections on the guys I thought would likely make it, then counted up the total roster spots, got 53, and hit post.
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Oof. CB is such a glaring hole.
Its nice to see that the trenches has so much depth though. I'm not sure if Cannon makes the team. Is his ability as a gunner enough to get him a roster spot? He adds nothing on offense, and I'm not convinced that he's a better KR than Dortch.
Either Charone Peake or Trenton Cannon should make the team, Boyer's earned at least one of his guys. Probably Cannon because Peake has likely peaked.
But it's entirely possible they both lose their spots to the cornerback(s) we need to bring in.
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Peake is more valuable than Cannon.
He is a better overall ST player.
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Arthur Maulet looked awful last night
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Arthur Maulet looked awful last night
Coleman should be taking that spot
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Gonna need Joe Douglas to come up with some clever signings at CB and K during training camp cuts
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How do training camp cuts work? Do those guys go through the waiver system or are they UFAs? Because from what I glean from Twitter, Arizona is at least as bad off as us at corner and I would assume they still have higher waiver priority before the season starts.
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Another thing- Montgomery looks really good at RB. I personally didnt expect much from him, but he looks better than almost every back we've had in recent years. I didn't watch much of GB so I wasn't sure how he'd be between the tackles, but he's impressed me so far. Gase hasn't even gotten the chance to be creative with him and Bell out their either.
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Another thing- Montgomery looks really good at RB. I personally didnt expect much from him, but he looks better than almost every back we've had in recent years. I didn't watch much of GB so I wasn't sure how he'd be between the tackles, but he's impressed me so far. Gase hasn't even gotten the chance to be creative with him and Bell out their either.
Montgomery isn't durable enough to be a full-time running back, and he didn't have good enough hands to be a full-time receiver.
But in a part-time role, his durability at RB doesn't matter as much, and at running back, his suspect hands don't matter as much because he won't be making too many contested catches. I like his game. I wouldn't like it if he were the full-time running back if Bell went down, but he and Powell or he and McGuire can share the load and do just fine.
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Offense - 24
Defense - 26
ST - 3
QB - 2
Sam Darnold
Trevor Siemian
RB - 3
Le'Veon Bell
Ty Montgomery
Bilal Powell
Memorable Cuts - Trenton Cannon, Elijah McGuire
WR - 7
Robby Anderson
Quincy Enunwa
Jamison Crowder
Josh Bellamy
Deontay Burnett
Greg Dortch
Charon Peake
Memorable Cuts - Tim White
TE - 3
Trevon Wesco
Ryan Griffin
Eric Tomlinson
(Chris Herndon suspended)
OL - 9
Kelvin Beachum
Kelechi Osemele
Ryan Kalil
Brian Winters
Brandon Shell
Chuma Edoga
Tom Compton
Alex Lewis
Jonotthan Harrison
(Brent Qvale to IR)
DL - 7
Leonard Williams
Quinnen Williams
Steve McLendon
Henry Anderson
Bronson Kaufusi
Foley Fatukasi
Nathan Shepherd
LB - 7
Brandon Copeland
C.J. Mosley
Jordan Jenkins
Neville Hewitt
Frankie Luvu
Blake Cashman
Jachai Polite
Albert McClellan
Memorable Cuts - Anthony Wint, Tarrell Basham, James Burgess, Harvey Langi
Avery Williamson (to IR)
CB - 7
Darryl Roberts
Trumaine Johnson
Brian Poole
Kyron Brown
Arthur Maulet
Marcus Cooper
Probable Cut pickup
Blessuan Austin (PUP)
S - 5
Jamal Adams
Marcus Maye
Rontez Miles
Brandon Bryant
Doug Middleton
ST - 3
Lachlan Edwards
Taylor Bertolet - Kicker to be named later / Probable Cut pickup
Thomas Hennessey
Practice Squad - 8
Valentine Holmes RB/WR/KR (International Exemption)
Perry Nickerson CB
Tim White WR
James Burgess - LB
Ryan Anderson - OT
Jamey Mosely - LB
Wyatt Miller - OL
Luke Faulk - QB
Jon Toth - C
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Both of us left Tarell Basham off the list. Here's a Tarell Basham hype article from legendary former Jets DE Steve White.
https://www.sbnation.com/2019/8/19/20800805/new-york-jets-tarell-basham-sacks-breakout-2019-defense
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Both of us left Tarell Basham off the list. Here's a Tarell Basham hype article from legendary former Jets DE Steve White.
https://www.sbnation.com/2019/8/19/20800805/new-york-jets-tarell-basham-sacks-breakout-2019-defense
I’ve liked what I’ve seen from him, but if if he is a good ST guy, and I can’t see him as a starter, which is why I left him off the list. But coaches described him as “an ascending player” which makes me think he’s got a shot at the roster for sure. But I also don’t know jack about McClellan, just that we signed him in the corresponding move for Williamson headed to IR
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Canadian Thanos gettin cut
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Canadian Thanos gettin cut
Hopefully
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8/29 predictions:
QB
Sam Darnold
Trevor Siemian
(no changes)
RB
Le'Veon Bell
Ty Montgomery
Bilal Powell
Trenton Cannon
(no changes)
WR
Robby Anderson
Quincy Enunwa
Jamison Crowder
Josh Bellamy
Greg Dortch
Charone Peake
Deontay Burnett
(replaced Burnett with Peake)
TE
Trevon Wesco
Ryan Griffin
Daniel Brown
Eric Tomlinson
Chris Herndon suspended
(replaced Tomlinson with Brown)
OL
Kelvin Beachum
Kelechi Osemele
Ryan Kalil
Brian Winters
Brandon Shell
Chuma Edoga
Tom Compton
Alex Lewis
Jonotthan Harrison
Brent Qvale to IR
(no changes)
DL
Leonard Williams
Quinnen Williams
Steve McLendon
Henry Anderson
Bronson Kaufusi
Foley Fatukasi
Nathan Shepherd
(removed Shepherd)
LB
Brandon Copeland
C.J. Mosley
Jordan Jenkins
Neville Hewitt
Frankie Luvu
Blake Cashman
Jachai Polite
Tarell Basham
Anthony Wint
(removed Avery Williamson, added Tarell Basham and Anthony Wint)
CB
Darryl Roberts
Trumaine Johnson
Brian Poole
Kyron Brown
Arthur Maulet
Nate Hairston
Blessuan Austin to IR/PUP
(added Hairston, removed Austin)
S
Jamal Adams
Marcus Maye
Rontez Miles
Brandon Bryant
Derrick Kindred
Doug Middleton
(removed Middleton, added Kindred)
ST
Lachlan Edwards
Greg Joseph
Thomas Hennessey
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Deontay Burnett
(replaced Burnett with Peake)
I love me some quality Special Teams, but if Charone Peake AND Trenton Cannon both make this team ahead of Burnett, I'll be very upset.
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I love me some quality Special Teams, but if Charone Peake AND Trenton Cannon both make this team ahead of Burnett, I'll be very upset.
I won't be...because we drafted Sam Darnold. It's like being forgiven for all your sins.
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I won't be...because we drafted Sam Darnold. It's like being forgiven for all your sins.
Mike Maccagnan will be very pleased to hear that.
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Mike Maccagnan will be very pleased to hear that.
nobody cares
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Mike Maccagnan will be very pleased to hear that.
I mean the dude deserves all the credit in the world and then some if Darnold becomes what we think he will be.
Sure what the guy did was heavily inspired by freaking luck, but there's usually a lot of luck involved in landing a franchise guy
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I mean the dude deserves all the credit in the world and then some if Darnold becomes what we think he will be.
Sure what the guy did was heavily inspired by freaking luck, but there's usually a lot of luck involved in landing a franchise guy
I dont get how it was luck. If landing sam was lucky so is making any type of investment that doesnt have a 100% chance return on your investment
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I dont get how it was luck. If landing sam was lucky so is making any type of investment that doesnt have a 100% chance return on your investment
He traded for the pick how many weeks before the draft, presumably under the expectation that two QB's could be off the board before his pick
If I can remember correctly they didn't even expect Sam to be there at 3, probably had his eye on Allen Rosen or Mayfield
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He traded for the pick how many weeks before the draft, presumably under the expectation that two QB's could be off the board before his pick
If I can remember correctly they didn't even expect Sam to be there at 3, probably had his eye on Allen Rosen or Mayfield
Again how is it luck?
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He traded for the pick how many weeks before the draft, presumably under the expectation that two QB's could be off the board before his pick
If I can remember correctly they didn't even expect Sam to be there at 3, probably had his eye on Allen Rosen or Mayfield
By the time of the trade it was widely thought the giants were taking Barkley, and I’m guessing the Jets has a good idea that the rumor had truth behind it. At that point it’s Baker or Sam, either of which would have been a great trade. I wouldn’t really say it was luck.
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By the time of the trade it was widely thought the giants were taking Barkley, and I’m guessing the Jets has a good idea that the rumor had truth behind it. At that point it’s Baker or Sam, either of which would have been a great trade. I wouldn’t really say it was luck.
At the time it was a shrewd choice to make. We had to have been sure we would have been happy with 3 different QBs. The rumors were Baker was our guy because it was always believed Sam would be #1. But while we thought the Giants would stick and take Barkley, there was also rumor the only QB they would even consider would be Sam. And of course the option to trade the pick existed. So really it was shrewd and opened the door for what I think was the best case scenario for us, but in no way could the fact we have Sam Darnold still not be considered Lucky.
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If we drafted Rosen I would have stopped being a Jets fan
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At the time it was a shrewd choice to make. We had to have been sure we would have been happy with 3 different QBs. The rumors were Baker was our guy because it was always believed Sam would be #1. But while we thought the Giants would stick and take Barkley, there was also rumor the only QB they would even consider would be Sam. And of course the option to trade the pick existed. So really it was shrewd and opened the door for what I think was the best case scenario for us, but in no way could the fact we have Sam Darnold still not be considered Lucky.
We were lucky to get sam.
Getting sam took planning, alot of work, and calculated risk.
It wasn't luck.
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We were lucky to get sam.
Getting sam took planning, alot of work, and calculated risk.
It wasn't luck.
Getting a QB took a lot of planning work and calculated risk.
Getting Sam involved a metric fuckton of luck. Hell it even involved the Browns NEEDING to be the team picking at 1. There’s a pretty good argument had it been anyone else except for them (and buffalo) of the QB needy teams, Sam would be playing elsewhere
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Getting a QB took a lot of planning work and calculated risk.
Getting Sam involved a metric fuckton of luck. Hell it even involved the Browns NEEDING to be the team picking at 1. There’s a pretty good argument had it been anyone else except for them (and buffalo) of the QB needy teams, Sam would be playing elsewhere
I mean I love Sam and he was my QB1, but Baker has looked great so far and we would all be happy to have if Sam went #1. Either way, their eval of QB1/QB2 with Sam/Baker or Baker/Sam was correct, and their belief that the Giants were picking Barkley was right. Maybe the fact that we got Sam was lucky, but the fact that we got a franchise QB was not.
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We were lucky to get sam.
Getting sam took planning, alot of work, and calculated risk.
It wasn't luck.
Is this sarcasm?
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If we drafted Rosen I would have stopped being a Jets fan
I don't think it was ever going to be Rosen. My recollection was that prior to the draft we were mostly convincing ourselves why Allen was going to be a good choice for us as the third QB off the board, hoping that Mayfield might fall, and dreaming that somehow Sam would be available.