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New York Jets Football => ...And The Home Of The Jets => Topic started by: bojanglesman on January 10, 2019, 07:52:26 AM
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Schefter: Here’s a coach under consideration to become the Jets’ new defensive coordinator: former Browns’ interim head coach Gregg Williams, sources tell @JeffDarlington and me.
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lol
JE is going to love this
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If Williams gets hired....i hope in his first meeting with the defense he walks up to the whiteboard and writes "kill bardy"
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Swag for days.
Jamal will get his dogs
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I'd be on board with Williams. I don't have to live with the guy, I don't care if he is a dick. Make this defense aggressive and kill Bardy.
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Would love Gregg here. Gotta get a strong DC here since Gase will spend most of his time with the offense.
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Locker room full of dickhead coaches and then Lowell Doggins
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Breer says Williams, Joseph or Pagano
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Why do I get the feeling that President Adams would love playing for Williams/Wiliams would love coaching him?
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I'd be more excited about this than our HC and OC
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As much as I'd like his attitude for our defense I feel like Gase needs someone less dickish to balance him out.
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As much as I'd like his attitude for our defense I feel like Gase needs someone less dickish to balance him out.
His ability to fall in line is a huge cause for concern. This is a guy who basically told Sean Payton to go freak himself while he was his d-coordinator and did what he wanted.
Super underrated football mind and he gets his units to play for him. I’d be interested, but they better make sure he knows his place.
It might not be an issue considering Gase from what I understand is pretty hands off with his d-coordinators.
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I find Gregg Williams to be largely overrated
He has some really good D’s on his resume, but many more bad or mediocre ones
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Vance Joseph is in Arizona right now interviewing for DC. Might get hired there before we have a shot.
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Quickly assembling our sack of dicks.
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Williams seems very similar to Gase as far as demanding a lot from players. That may be a good or bad thing. Sometimes like minds rub each other the wrong way. Gregg Williams has had good defenses everywhere he goes. There's no excuses for the bounty thing, but he's paid his price for it. His achilles heel is being too aggressive sometimes. At least it would be more fun than watching us play scared and blow a late lead playing prevent defense.
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At least it would be more fun than watching us play scared and blow a late lead playing prevent defense.
That's a time honored Jets tradition, transcends time and coaches. That and leaving the middle of the field wide open on 3rd and long.
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You know what, I hope they do hire Williams.
I'm going to love watching him punch Gase in the face during a nationally televised Jets/Patriots game. Then Buddy Ryan's ghost can sleep restfully after his son went and fucked up his team.
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You know what, I hope they do hire Williams.
I'm going to love watching him punch Gase in the face during a nationally televised Jets/Patriots game. Then Buddy Ryan's ghost can sleep restfully after his son went and fucked up his team.
we've gone 14-34 the last 3 seasons, there was nothing there to freak up
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Quickly assembling our sack of dicks.
It's eerily similar to this place.
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You know what, I hope they do hire Williams.
I'm going to love watching him punch Gase in the face during a nationally televised Jets/Patriots game. Then Buddy Ryan's ghost can sleep restfully after his son went and fucked up his team.
Let me be the first to mention that Gase has an extremely punchable face
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we've gone 14-34 the last 3 seasons, there was nothing there to freak up
Because...Rex (his son) already fucked it up long-term...So, he'd love to see a defensive coordinator punch an offensive playcaller in the face...
Damn, my jokes go over like a lead balloon around here.
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Let me be the first to mention that Gase has an extremely punchable face
I will officially add him to my list:
1) Ted Cruz
2) Ajit Pai
3) Adam Gase
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(http://i67.tinypic.com/14jb89h.jpg)
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Because...Rex (his son) already fucked it up long-term...So, he'd love to see a defensive coordinator punch an offensive playcaller in the face...
Damn, my jokes go over like a lead balloon around here.
This board is no place for jokes. Only whining and shitposting
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This board is no place for jokes. Only whining and shitposting
Look, I'm doing my best, but even I have to take a break sometimes.
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This board is no place for jokes. Only whining and shitposting
Sup
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I will officially add him to my list:
1) Ted Cruz
2) Ajit Pai
3) Adam Gase
That's a top notch list. I mean maybe 1 or 2 people might make it better.
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That's a top notch list. I mean maybe 1 or 2 people might make it better.
1) Ted Cruz
2) Ajit Pai
3) Adam Gase
4) Miamipuck
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KILL BARDY!!!!!
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New #Jets coach Adam Gase is on the verge of a big hire: Former #Browns interim coach Gregg Williams is in talks with Gase to become their new defensive coordinator, sources say. Things are progressing in this direction, and those involved believe it’ll get done.
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KILL BARDY
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I was more partial to D O Double G after watching this clip:
https://mobile.twitter.com/nickspano/status/1083373805249224704
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Gregg Williams says that the base/core of his defense is derived from Buddy Ryan and his 46.
Awesome.
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Gregg Williams says that the base/core of his defense is derived from Buddy Ryan and his 46.
Awesome.
Rex part 2?
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Rex part 2?
#GetRex
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WLB - Darron Lee
MLB - Avery Williamson
SLB - Jordan Jenkins
Thoughts?
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WLB - Darron Lee
MLB - Avery Williamson
SLB - Jordan Jenkins
Thoughts?
Neville Hewitt wants to know why you won't let him play football.
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WLB - Darron Lee
MLB - Avery Williamson
SLB - Jordan Jenkins
Thoughts?
Jordan Jenkins should probably move to DE.
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WLB - Darron Lee
MLB - Avery Williamson
SLB - Free agent/draft
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WLB - Darron Lee
MLB - Avery Williamson
SLB - Jordan Jenkins
Thoughts?
WLB - Darron Lee
MLB - Avery Williamson
SLB - Josh Allen
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Anthony Barr is a free agent, prolly sure he plays SAM
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I just realized how annoying this is going to be for draft purposes, I’ve basically been ignoring 4-3 LBs forever now
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I just realized how annoying this is going to be for draft purposes, I’ve basically been ignoring 4-3 LBs forever now
Joe Giles-Harris, Ben Burr-Kirven, Te’Von Conley, TJ Edwards, Devin Bush in 2019 draft
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I'm really excited about moving back to a 4-3.
While it seems counterintuitive it gets more speed on the field to cover tight ends and running backs and I think its easier to find pieces. OLB pass rushers seem to be much more difficult to find than 4-3 ends as they're required to be able to do so much.
Lets Go!
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I'm a little worried about the combined assholery between Gase and Williams, but I do think this will be good for our defense.
Adams and Williams will Jive
Hopefully Williams can bring Trumaine back to his best days in STL
Hopefully Williams can light a fire under Leo's derriere
I think Lee will do much better as a Will
Bold Prediction, even if Williams does succeed in this position he won't last more than 3 years in NY
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Joe Giles-Harris, Ben Burr-Kirven, Te’Von Conley, TJ Edwards, Devin Bush in 2019 draft
Devin White is one of the best players in the draft class.
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Devin White is one of the best players in the draft class.
Not taking him at 3 tho
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Over the first eight weeks of the season, before he moved to the HC spot, Gregg Williams had the Browns 1st in takeaways and 4th in lowest percentage of drives allowing a score.
After he moved to HC, they dipped to 17th in takeaways and 30th in lowest score% allowed
-Nania
Interesting
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Browns fans complain that he had his deep safety 900 miles off the line of scrimmage and got destroyed by TEs constantly. Can't be worse than what we had.
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I'm really excited about moving back to a 4-3.
While it seems counterintuitive it gets more speed on the field to cover tight ends and running backs and I think its easier to find pieces. OLB pass rushers seem to be much more difficult to find than 4-3 ends as they're required to be able to do so much.
Lets Go!
I've disliked the 3-4 going back to Herm, and for the reason you mention, it seems so much harder to get the right personnel.
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Anthony Barr is a free agent, prolly sure he plays SAM
Anthony Barr
Preston Brown
Eric Kendricks
Craig Robertson
Kwon Alexander
all free agents, and i believe they all play in the 4-3
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I still remember the day hearing that the Jets were going to trade my favorite player at the time, Jonathan Vilma, because he wasn’t a fit for the defensive scheme. It was tough for me to like the defensive scheme after that.
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Defensive DVOA rank improvement of teams adding Gregg Williams at DC
TEN: 18th before > 16th
WAS: 24th before > 4th
NO: 26th before > 17th
STL: 11th before > 9th
CLE: 30th before > 16th (up again to 12th in 2018)
Statistically, we can expect a bump just by switching coach/scheme. If we can add a couple premier players through the draft and free agency, this will be a very exciting unit to watch.
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I don't expect the Jets to suddenly be a top 5 defense. Maybe just better than a defense that gets mediocre pressure and still gives up deep balls.
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1) Ted Cruz
2) Ajit Pai
3) Adam Gase
4) Miamipuck
Now we're talking.
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I don't expect the Jets to suddenly be a top 5 defense. Maybe just better than a defense that gets mediocre pressure and still gives up deep balls.
Maybe don't blow every lead? Start there.
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In 1990 Williams became the Special Teams coach of the Houston Oilers under then defensive coordinator, Buddy Ryan. From 1994–1996, Williams was the linebackers coach for the Oilers. From 1997–2000, Williams was promoted to defensive coordinator of the now Tennessee Titans after the Oilers moved out of Houston. As the defensive coordinator, the Titans led the league in total defense and only gave up 191 points, the third fewest in the NFL since the league adopted the 16-game schedule in 1978. The defense also helped lead the Titans to Super Bowl XXXIV where they lost to the St. Louis Rams.
First NFL job
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Williams had established a particularly close relationship with 24-year-old free safety Sean Taylor, calling him "the best player [he'd] ever coached." When Taylor was murdered mid-season on November 27, 2007, Williams was deeply affected. In tribute to Taylor, Williams called a defensive play with only ten men for the first play of the Redskins' first game after the tragedy, a November 30, 2007 game against the Buffalo Bills.[4] For the remainder of the season, Williams ran an inspired defense which performed, along with the rest of the team, to honor Taylor's memory, highlighted by holding star running back Adrian Peterson of the Minnesota Vikings to 27 yards on December 23, 2007,[5] and allowing a franchise-low one yard rushing to the Dallas Cowboys on December 30, 2007, sealing a playoff seed.
Redskins DC. Had no idea he was there for Sean Taylor
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Williams was hired by the New Orleans Saints on January 15, 2009. Head coach Sean Payton, who was heavily involved in the effort to recruit Williams to the team, raved about Williams "because he was so impressive and prepared" in his interview. In fact, Williams was so impressive that Payton offered and took a voluntary $250,000 cut in salary to help facilitate his signing with the team. He took over a Saints defense ranked 23rd in the NFL in yards allowed and tied for 26th in points allowed in 2008. Williams' approach yielded immediate results, as the 2009 Saints recorded 35 defensive takeaways, second in the league, and the aggressive defense played an integral role in the Saints' run to their first Super Bowl championship.
New Orleans. It didn’t last but everything about this was impressive.
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New Orleans. It didn’t last but everything about this was impressive.
Especially considering how high powered the Saints offense was/relying on the aerial game.
Forcing games into shootouts (which to be fair probably made it easier for his defense to get more turnovers)
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so the plan seems like it's going to be to try to kill the other team on every play, force some turnovers, and let Sam go score a touchdown if they let up a score on a busted play
I can deal with it
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Did we actually sign Greg Williams yet?
I know it seems promising but the Gase thing did come out of left field so I don't wanna get my hopes up here either...
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Did we actually sign Greg Williams yet?
I know it seems promising but the Gase thing did come out of left field so I don't wanna get my hopes up here either...
No, but there's been no rumor of him going anywhere else that has an opening, and all of the other OCs that were rumored to go to us have been signed elsewhere except him.
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Hey it Gegg
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Hey it Gegg
Beat me to it.
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New Orleans. It didn’t last but everything about this was impressive.
He did a great job there except for the ending. Save Williams pulling a Sandusky, his relationship with Payton and the Saints couldn't have ended on worse terms.
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I wish something would break on this and give us confirmation that Gregg will be our next DC. I'm still a bit meh about Gase but if we get Williams I believe we can start calling ourselves a ball team again.
I would have loved to have seen how Williams would have handled Mo before we let him slink out the door.
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@JPFinlayNBCS: Have heard that Gregg Williams contract with the Jets isn’t done deal. Redskins trying to secure a meeting before anything goes final, per source. Clock is ticking though.
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I will want Gase fired if he can't secure Williams as our DC.
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I will want Gase fired if he can't secure Williams as our DC.
I'm on board with this.
Although can't tell if it's Gases fault or Duffs/Woody
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Give him to Washington in exchange for Bill Callahan.
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New coach Adam Gase provided no comment when asked if Gregg Williams will be the Jets' defensive coordinator at Monday's introductory press conference.
Williams is believed to be weighing the seven head-coaching job offers he received via snail mail over the past two weeks.
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Williams is a perfect fit in Washington.
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This Greg Williams Washington situation is bizarre. Apparently they have a DC under contract they planned (and could still keep as a fallback) on keeping. And they might try to appeal to Williams to not only take his job but to be a fallback option if their HC struggles and they fire him mid-season.
I guess I see the appeal/potential but definitely a fucked up way of going about things.
Especially adding on the fact that Williams had supposedly verbally agreed to a deal with the Jets before this whole Washington thing came up
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Gase’s wife is Joe Vitt’s daughter
Vitt testified against Gregg Williams during Bounty Gate...
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Gase’s wife is Joe Vitt’s daughter
Vitt testified against Gregg Williams during Bounty Gate...
Fire Gase’s wife
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Williams had supposedly verbally agreed to a deal with the Jets before this whole Washington thing came up
I never heard that.
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if we end up passing on Williams, i could get behind a Jack Del Rio hire.
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hey it gegg
(We got him)
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We got him?
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We got him?
According to Schefter the deal is being finalized
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Looking forward to seeing a 4-3 again, even though it will require a personnel overhaul.
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Looking forward to seeing a 4-3 again, even though it will require a personnel overhaul.
Interested to see how Gregg uses Adams.
We need another linebacker and defensive tackle for sure.
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yesssss
#KillBardy
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Let’s Gegggggg
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Jets finalizing deal with former Browns’ interim HC Gregg Williams to become their defensive coordinator, per source. Williams was the defensive coordinator the Jets were targeting no matter who their HC was; they got their man.
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how many players on the roster outside of henry anderson wouldn't fit in his 4-3?
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Interested to see how Gregg uses Adams.
We need another linebacker and defensive tackle for sure.
I would think DE jumps to the top of the list. No one really fits that role on the roster.
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freak yeah! I'm more excited about Gregg's news conference than the other guy!
Time to start acting like a ball club.
"Get to freaking huddle you assholes"
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Let's Gooooooooooo
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I will have popcorn ready for Gregg's PC
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Interested to see how Gregg uses Adams.
We need another linebacker and defensive tackle for sure.
Would Quennin Williams be a better pick for us now that we will run a 4-3
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While I'm more excited about about Williams than anything.
The above tweet
Williams was the defensive coordinator the Jets were targeting no matter who their HC was; they got their man.
And the Jets adamantly denied that they tried to force coordinators or coaches on anybody and never tried to have an arranged marriage.
Clearly the Jets did just that if there's any truth to this mystery tweet
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While I'm more excited about about Williams than anything.
The above tweet
Williams was the defensive coordinator the Jets were targeting no matter who their HC was; they got their man.
And the Jets adamantly denied that they tried to force coordinators or coaches on anybody and never tried to have an arranged marriage.
Clearly the Jets did just that if there's any truth to this mystery tweet
That was from Schefter
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Leonard Williams will be pleased about this, he should get the opportunity put up the sort of sack numbers half the fanbase thought he was supposed to be getting before.
I wonder if this pushes DeMarcus Lawrence up our target list in FA.
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That was from Schefter
So the Jets blatantly lied about arranging a marriage and planned on forcing their HC to take assistants they don't want
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that's certainly one way to interpret it, albeit a stupid and regressive one
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I wonder if this pushes DeMarcus Lawrence up our target list in FA.
Tre Flowers should be towards the top too
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The Jets will have to get at the very least one of
Demarcus Lawrence
Trey Flowers
Dee Ford
Jadeveon Clowney
Frank Clark
Za’Darius Smith
Possibly even two... they really don't have a single DE on their roster. Jordan Jenkins can't really play the position.
They also probably need someone to play Sam LB and a starting DT. A lot of holes to fill in a year when they really need to address the offense.
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I know that since the Colts traded Anderson primarily because he didn't fit their vision of transitioning to a 4-3 defense, it's speculated that he wouldn't fit here in Williams' defense as well... But is he really not a scheme fit?
He is not a scheme fit. We're better off spending the money on DEs and maybe someone like Suh or Grady Jarrett.
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He is not a scheme fit. We're better off spending the money on DEs and maybe someone like Suh or Grady Jarrett.
He's 6'6" and 300lbs, can he really not play tackle in a four man front? I would have thought that if nothing else he's a great situational player even if he's not a starter.
It might be moot because he's a free agent anyway but he's been such a solid player for us that I'd try and find a role for him. It's not like we're trying to find roster space or cap savings.
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The Jets will have to get at the very least one of
Demarcus Lawrence
Trey Flowers
Dee Ford
Jadeveon Clowney
Frank Clark
Za’Darius Smith
Possibly even two... they really don't have a single DE on their roster. Jordan Jenkins can't really play the position.
They also probably need someone to play Sam LB and a starting DT. A lot of holes to fill in a year when they really need to address the offense.
I was looking at this the other day.
DAL has $50 M in cap space
HOU has $67 M in cap space. Clowney said he wants to retire a Texan and they’ve already started negotiating.
SEA has $60 M in cap space.
KC has $40 M in cap space.
NE has $23 M in cap space
BAL has $34 M in cap space.
Trey Flowers is the most likely to shake loose IMO. They usually let guys walk if they’re about to get paid and they have the least cap space out of all the teams with top FA EDGE.
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^If any of those guys shake loose, we’ll throw stupid money at them.
I suspect we’ll be picking from these tiers of players:
Preston Smith - WAS
Robert Quinn - MIA
Bruce Irvin - OAK
Ezekiel Ansah - DET
Dante Fowler Jr - LAR
Brandon Graham - PHI
Anthony Barr - MIN - would play OLB in our new scheme, doesn’t fill DE need
2nd pass rusher on possible cheap deal:
Cameron Wake - MIA
Terrell Suggs - BAL
Lorenzo Alexander - BUF
Julius Peppers - CAR
Clay Matthews - GB
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If any of those guys shake loose, we’ll throw stupid money at them.
I suspect we’ll be picking from these tiers of players:
Preston Smith - WAS
Robert Quinn - MIA
Bruce Irvin - OAK
Ezekiel Ansah - DET
Dante Fowler Jr - LAR
Brandon Graham - PHI
Anthony Barr - MIN - would play OLB in our new scheme, doesn’t fill DE need
Fowler Jr. stinks. Bruce Irvin is not a good scheme fit.
Quinn is likely going to be one of Gase's targets. Ansah is intriguing but he can't stay healthy. Smith has been a 3-4 OLB for a while, but he was a 4-3 DE in college.
2nd pass rusher on possible cheap deal:
Cameron Wake - MIA
Terrell Suggs - BAL
Lorenzo Alexander - BUF
Julius Peppers - CAR
Clay Matthews - GB
I don't want any of these old turds.
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I was surprised Cleveland didn't promote him after the strong finish.
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I was surprised Cleveland didn't promote him after the strong finish.
They promoted the guy that had more of an impact on their quarterback instead.
We'll see how it works out for them.
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Clay Matthews in his prime was awesome but he has been gash for a long time. I'll bet he retires.
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I don't want any of these old turds.
Here are some alternatives:
Shaq Barrett - 26
Shane Ray - 26
Markus Golden - 28
Derrick Morgan - 32
Michael Johnson - 32
Their production stinks compared to the old guys though.
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Thoughts on Brandon Graham?
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Thoughts on Brandon Graham?
My girlfriend is an eagles fan so I watch a lot of their games. He's not a stud, but Graham seems to always make a big play when the eagles need one.
I'd be for signing him
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Thoughts on Brandon Graham?
He’s our age, which means he’s old in real life and in the NFL.
Throw all the money at Tre Flowers.
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Here are some alternatives:
Shaq Barrett - 26
Shane Ray - 26
Markus Golden - 28
Derrick Morgan - 32
Michael Johnson - 32
Their production stinks compared to the old guys though.
Barrett, Ray, and Golden are 3-4 OLBs.
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Barrett, Ray, and Golden are 3-4 OLBs.
I started putting that list together a few weeks ago :(
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I started putting that list together a few weeks ago :(
JACKASS
I’LL KILL YOU
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He’s our age, which means he’s old in real life and in the NFL.
Throw all the money at Tre Flowers.
Agreed, but don’t you think we probably need 2 DE’s? Hopefully we get Bosa/Josh Allen, but I still think we would have a need for DE even if we landed Flowers and Allen.
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Gregg Williams when Duff proposes they sign a 3-4 OLB:
JACKASS
I’LL KILL YOU
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I guess we should take a look at re-signing Copeland in a cheap deal. Didn’t he play with his hand in the dirt a lot?
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Maccagnan will probably swing a trade for somebody.
Gregg Williams is going to come in and punch Rashard Robinson in his stupid face.
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Gregg Williams has agreed to a 3-year deal as the #Jets new defensive coordinator, source said. He’s flying to the NY/NJ area to sign the contract, but the expected is now official and done. Adam Gase gets his top choice at DC.
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Kill the head and the body will die
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If the Bucs release Gerald McCoy, Maccagnan better be waiting outside of his house.
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If the Bucs release Gerald McCoy, Maccagnan better be waiting outside of his house.
he'll be 31 in Feb...might be a little long in the tooth, no?
I suppose if we get him on the cheap, he'd be a nice addition.
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Bountygase
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If the Bucs release Gerald McCoy, Maccagnan better be waiting outside of his house.
Just like Rex recruited Bart Scott. At his doorstep waiting to sign his derriere.
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he'll be 31 in Feb...might be a little long in the tooth, no?
I suppose if we get him on the cheap, he'd be a nice addition.
We need leaders and McCoy is as good as we are gonna find.
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he'll be 31 in Feb...might be a little long in the tooth, no?
I suppose if we get him on the cheap, he'd be a nice addition.
Two years younger than Steve McClendon. Same age as impending free agent DE Brandon Graham.
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I hope Grady Jarrett shakes loose.
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Sounds like Geg is bringing his kid Blake in to coach LBs....I guess that leaves Kevin Greene our in the cold.
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Sounds like Geg is bringing his kid Blake in to coach LBs....I guess that leaves Kevin Greene our in the cold.
Kevin Greene can coach DEs or the DL maybe, but whatever. It's not like we had much success with him here.
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Kevin Greene can coach DEs or the DL maybe, but whatever. It's not like we had much success with him here.
Not like we gave him much help either. I feel like he did a solid job given the players at his disposal, wouldn't hurt to keep him around
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Not like we gave him much help either. I feel like he did a solid job given the players at his disposal, wouldn't hurt to keep him around
If it's a scheme change, then he may not be the best fit. I don't see why Gregg wouldn't want a badass like Greene around though.
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“Newly-hired Jets defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is looking to fill out his staff. From what I'm hearing, some names under consideration are: LBs — Blake Williams, his son; DBs — Dennard Wilson (retained from previous Jets staff); DL Clyde Simmons. Assistant DBs — Steve Jackson (previous Jets staff). Simmons and Williams were with Williams last season in Cleveland. Wilson and Jackson coached with Williams in previous stops. Kris Kocurek was eyed for the DL job (he coached under Adam Gase last year in Miami), but he was hired by San Francisco.”
-Dick Cimini
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“Newly-hired Jets defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is looking to fill out his staff. From what I'm hearing, some names under consideration are: LBs — Blake Williams, his son; DBs — Dennard Wilson (retained from previous Jets staff); DL Clyde Simmons. Assistant DBs — Steve Jackson (previous Jets staff). Simmons and Williams were with Williams last season in Cleveland. Wilson and Jackson coached with Williams in previous stops. Kris Kocurek was eyed for the DL job (he coached under Adam Gase last year in Miami), but he was hired by San Francisco.”
-Dick Cimini
Dennard Wilson is a good coach.
Clyde Simmons coached Aaron Donald as a rookie and also potential free agent Robert Quinn.
At this point, I will be surprised if we don't sign Robert Quinn if/when Miami releases him.
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Go get Robert Quinn, Gerald McCoy/Sheldon Richardson, and Tre Flowers. Rebuild it.
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I wanted to trade up for Robert Quinn eight years ago. He's not the player he once was but I'll still happily take him on this roster.
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I wanted to trade up for Robert Quinn eight years ago. He's not the player he once was but I'll still happily take him on this roster.
Quinn has played for our HC, DC, and DL coach. I think he'll be a Jet.
Unless he shocks everyone and retires...
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Via Cimini
The Adam Gase-Gregg Williams relationship will be scrutinized because of their strong personalities and different backgrounds, which makes this noteworthy: Williams recently was frustrated with Gase (and general manager Mike Maccagnan) because they balked at the idea of adding his son, Blake, to the coaching staff, according to a person familiar with the situation. They apparently came around, because Blake is expected to join the staff as a defensive coach, although the team hasn't announced the hiring of any position coaches.
Blake Williams, 34, spent the past two seasons as the Cleveland Browns' linebackers coach, working under his father. After the 2017 season, Gregg called him "the best young coach I've ever had on my staff." Naturally, he wants his son on the Jets' staff, but there was initial resistance and it led to some tense moments. Blake has a reputation for rubbing people the wrong way. As a St. Louis Rams assistant, he upset people in the organization by screaming at a draft prospect in a scouting-combine interview, a source said. He also was reprimanded multiple times for sitting in the wrong seat on the team bus; he kept sitting in a seat reserved for a senior member of the staff. The Rams fired him after the 2013 season.
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Via Cimini
The Adam Gase-Gregg Williams relationship will be scrutinized because of their strong personalities and different backgrounds, which makes this noteworthy: Williams recently was frustrated with Gase (and general manager Mike Maccagnan) because they balked at the idea of adding his son, Blake, to the coaching staff, according to a person familiar with the situation. They apparently came around, because Blake is expected to join the staff as a defensive coach, although the team hasn't announced the hiring of any position coaches.
Blake Williams, 34, spent the past two seasons as the Cleveland Browns' linebackers coach, working under his father. After the 2017 season, Gregg called him "the best young coach I've ever had on my staff." Naturally, he wants his son on the Jets' staff, but there was initial resistance and it led to some tense moments. Blake has a reputation for rubbing people the wrong way. As a St. Louis Rams assistant, he upset people in the organization by screaming at a draft prospect in a scouting-combine interview, a source said. He also was reprimanded multiple times for sitting in the wrong seat on the team bus; he kept sitting in a seat reserved for a senior member of the staff. The Rams fired him after the 2013 season.
How freaking juvenile can you be? You're already fighting the perception that you're only on the staff because of daddy, you dumb freak.
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Ugh...Gregg Williams better be worth the trouble his retarded kid sounds like he’s gonna be.
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poopchute coaches 2019! All in!
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We need leaders and McCoy is as good as we are gonna find.
my wife deals with him and his wife at her job all the time. the guy is a class act.
he honestly has 2 good years left imo. i wouldnt bank on anything after that as far as ELITE. but if he does get let go, you plug him in next to Leo and pray you get some edge rushers in FA.
hes not what he once was. but hes worth overpaying for 2 years of good production and having a strong veteran presence in the locker room.
plus the Bucs have never had good DB's hes done plenty of work that never got taken advantage of due to poor pass defense. but i think in a Williams type system hed be better than half the league, even at 31.
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That sitting in the wrong bus seat complaint is freaking retarded.
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https://twitter.com/jumosq/status/1173789615125254145?s=21
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https://twitter.com/jumosq/status/1173789615125254145?s=21
It's not new. He calls it the "Angel" position. He did it in Cleveland too. It's usually a disaster, for the reasons you saw last night. I don't get why he keeps on using it if it doesn't do anything to prevent big gains.
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Bart Scott just confirmed what I suspected after viewing that play a bunch of times: Neville Hewitt was supposed to cover ODB.
K
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Bart Scott just confirmed what I suspected after viewing that play a bunch of times: Neville Hewitt was supposed to cover ODB.
K
You don't get the postgames right?
Hewitt himself confirmed it.
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It's not new. He calls it the "Angel" position. He did it in Cleveland too. It's usually a disaster, for the reasons you saw last night. I don't get why he keeps on using it if it doesn't do anything to prevent big gains.
It's not new, but it's also why the idea that Marcus Maye has no blame on that play that some people were saying last night is ridiculous.
If the scheme of the defense is Neville Hewitt guarding Odell Beckham, hopefully Maye realizes that Hewitt can't actually guard Beckham, so he should provide safety help. Terrible job not even slowing OBJ down one iota.
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It's not new, but it's also why the idea that Marcus Maye has no blame on that play that some people were saying last night is ridiculous.
If the scheme of the defense is Neville Hewitt guarding Odell Beckham, hopefully Maye realizes that Hewitt can't actually guard Beckham, so he should provide safety help. Terrible job not even slowing OBJ down one iota.
How can you provide help to a LB that got beat off the snap when you’re 30+ yards away? Not easy to close the gap on that type of player when he has a running start and an open field to run in.
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How can you provide help to a LB that got beat off the snap when you’re 30+ yards away? Not easy to close the gap on that type of player when he has a running start and an open field to run in.
I need a few more games to fully get an idea what Gregg is doing with the deep safety, but Maye should've been running the alley as soon as that ball came out. I'm assuming he has the free safety making flat foot reads which should limit big plays.
Nothing wrong with having a deep safety 18-20 yards off the ball. There's quite a few armchair defensive coordinators claiming that they can't see him on the TV screen. In All-22, he's reasonably aligned in the middle of the field/strength.
On the play, there's no way Beckham should've had a free release there -- there's two defensive backs covering three receivers. It makes no sense to me.
Poole has outside leverage on Beckham, so it's not his responsibility. There needed to be a backer there to collision Beckham, but the LBs were playing run and the RPO got them.
The coverage just completely baffles me. I'm not sure if Roberts was supposed to take the #2 and pass the #1 over the top the safety. Even if that was the case, Poole either completely fucked up or Maye made an awful read to play the #1.
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vs Raiders:
Poole: 0 targets
Maulet: 7 targets, 6 catches, 33 yards (4.7/target), 1 first down
Austin: 6 targets, 3 catches, 24 yards (4.0/target), 2 first downs
Against an Oakland team that entered #7 in pass offense DVOA. Incredible the Jets are getting this out of CB
Nania
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A toast to a man who is absolutely making chicken salad.
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff/2019
I know people have different perceptions around advanced stats, but I've generally felt like Football Outsiders lines things up well with reality. Top 5 defense.
Also, not Gregg Williams related, but top 3 special teams, which is insane considering the turnover there. Brant Boyer is a special teams God.
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A toast to a man who is absolutely making chicken salad.
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff/2019
I know people have different perceptions around advanced stats, but I've generally felt like Football Outsiders lines things up well with reality. Top 5 defense.
Also, not Gregg Williams related, but top 3 special teams, which is insane considering the turnover there. Brant Boyer is a special teams God.
Crazy considering our CB and ILB situation. Gregg has done a hell of a job here. Boyer, too. If the offense looks anything like it did the last few weeks, we have a solid chance to be a playoff team next season.
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hey it gegg
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How the hell do we have a top 3 ST unit given the shiftiness we have had at K? Don’t get me wrong Ficken is the best we’ve had this season, but everyone will be pissed if we don’t upgrade in the offaeason
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What are the odds Williams gets HC interviews this offseason?
He's more than qualified
I think bounty gate is the only reason he's not one now
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hey it gegg
Every time I see Pete Buttigieg's name in the news I think of this.
What are the odds Williams gets HC interviews this offseason?
He's more than qualified
I think bounty gate is the only reason he's not one now
Or it could be the multiple times he was a head coach and maybe didn't prove himself. Granted, it was the Bills and only interim with Cleveland, but he's had a couple of chances already.
I don't think he's going anywhere for at least the next year.
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The Bills thing was almost 20 years ago
And with the Browns he was interim coach for a few weeks, and by all accounts was rather successful at it. Replacing him the team has regressed significantly while becoming more talented.
Regardless I'm not convinced he gets a HC job, but I think he's an interview candidate
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Geg will get interviews. He's done an incredible job with what he had to work with this year.
#ChickenSaladFromChickenShit
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I'd be very surprised if he wasn't at least considered for the Redskins job. Apparently Snyder has a lot of affinity for him and wanted to bring him in last year as the DC.
Then again, they did pass on him once when he coached under Gibbs for Jim Zorn (lmao), and, as always, this is the Redskins we're talking about.
I think given the struggles of the "offensive hot shots" (McVay, Nagy, Gase) you're going to see defensive coordinators get a lot more attention when it comes to head coaching jobs. Robert Saleh immediately comes to mind as a guy that I think is going to be on the wish list for teams looking for a new coach.
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I could see him getting interviews, but I still don't think he gets a new job this offseason.
I'll say this, I didn't really want him here, and I really didn't want him here with Gase, but the job he's done has completely changed my mind on him. I'm still iffy on Gase, but Williams has been fantastic.
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Gregg Williams asked if he wants to be an HC: “I love it here.”
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Geg for HC
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Funny that no one is making excuses for the massive injuries and talent vacuums on defense as to why his unit has underperformed this season. It's almost like good coaching and understanding how to best use the available players goes a good way to making up for such things.
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Geg for HC
I’m in
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Funny that no one is making excuses for the massive injuries and talent vacuums on defense as to why his unit has underperformed this season. It's almost like good coaching and understanding how to best use the available players goes a good way to making up for such things.
JE cracked the code, gents.
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Gregg Williams asked if he wants to be an HC: “I love it here.”
What is he supposed to say? I was surprised Cleveland didn't keep him after the job he did as their interim last year, and I'd have been happier if he were our head coach and Gase the OC. Only problem there is if we have success and someone hires Gase away it fucks Darnold again, so maybe that's why they did it this way. I'm not sure any calls on the field would be any different either way.
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What is he supposed to say? I was surprised Cleveland didn't keep him after the job he did as their interim last year, and I'd have been happier if he were our head coach and Gase the OC. Only problem there is if we have success and someone hires Gase away it fucks Darnold again, so maybe that's why they did it this way. I'm not sure any calls on the field would be any different either way.
The guys on the postgame have been making an interesting point for about half the season. When the HC is also the OC and playcaller, there's no accountability. He has no one to say "Hey, the calls you're making today aren't working, you need to do something else."
They've been basically saying "This is why week after week we're wondering why Gase doesn't adjust, especially coming out of the half--he has no one to tell him he should change the gameplan."
I'm not sure how different it would be if Gregg were at the top of the food chain but it's an interesting point.
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The guys on the postgame have been making an interesting point for about half the season. When the HC is also the OC and playcaller, there's no accountability. He has no one to say "Hey, the calls you're making today aren't working, you need to do something else."
They've been basically saying "This is why week after week we're wondering why Gase doesn't adjust, especially coming out of the half--he has no one to tell him he should change the gameplan."
I'm not sure how different it would be if Gregg were at the top of the food chain but it's an interesting point.
Isn’t Loggains supposed to say something? *trying to keep a straight face*
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The guys on the postgame have been making an interesting point for about half the season. When the HC is also the OC and playcaller, there's no accountability. He has no one to say "Hey, the calls you're making today aren't working, you need to do something else."
They've been basically saying "This is why week after week we're wondering why Gase doesn't adjust, especially coming out of the half--he has no one to tell him he should change the gameplan."
I'm not sure how different it would be if Gregg were at the top of the food chain but it's an interesting point.
There is that dynamic, there might be some difference but probably not a lot. You still have Gase calling the offense and Williams calling the D.
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There is that dynamic, there might be some difference but probably not a lot. You still have Gase calling the offense and Williams calling the D.
Gregg has been great this year. I liked the hire, though I wasnt sure if he was the savior some seemingly made him out to be. But he has exceeded expectations.
Gase needs to hold up his end of the bargain on the offensive side.
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Isn’t Loggains supposed to say something? *trying to keep a straight face*
How is he supposed to handle the challenge flag and speak to Gase?
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How is he supposed to handle the challenge flag and speak to Gase?
I’m sure it was explained in the job interview w/ Christopher Johnson
Matt Rhule’s potential assistants couldn’t handle it
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I’m in
I'd be in for greg as he and shurmer as OC. I know there are probably better options but there are much worse
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Geg for HC
I don't think we'd gain anything from geg as head coach that we wouldn't get from geg as defensive coordinator. I keep thinking of that exchange on Hard Knocks when Todd Haley said, "Good teams don't hit their quarterbacks in practice!" and Williams fired back, "Well block for him then!" I don't know if I want that guy overseeing Sam Darnold's development.
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Baker Mayfield didn’t seem to have suffered too much having Gregg as his HC
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Apparently Williams doesn't want to be HC, here or anywhere else.
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Apparently Williams doesn't want to be HC, here or anywhere else.
Some guys don’t want that role or know it isn’t what they are good at. Why uproot the family to go some place you aren’t happy when you are already making millions every year?
That said if somebody called and said we want you, I’d be curious if he’s still singing that tune
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I don't think we'd gain anything from geg as head coach that we wouldn't get from geg as defensive coordinator. I keep thinking of that exchange on Hard Knocks when Todd Haley said, "Good teams don't hit their quarterbacks in practice!" and Williams fired back, "Well block for him then!" I don't know if I want that guy overseeing Sam Darnold's development.
Sounds like Gregggg has a better idea of what the OL should do than Gase does
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-defensive-line-weapon-prize-andre-carter-20191227-cnsafrrobnbhdocri7en2dj2z4-story.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true
This article is about DL Coach Andre Branch, very cool read
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-defensive-line-weapon-prize-andre-carter-20191227-cnsafrrobnbhdocri7en2dj2z4-story.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true
This article is about DL Coach Andre Carter, very cool read
FTFY
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-defensive-line-weapon-prize-andre-carter-20191227-cnsafrrobnbhdocri7en2dj2z4-story.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true
This article is about DL Coach Andre Branch, very cool read
Can't believe Phillips has played the highest % of snaps
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Can't believe Phillips has played the highest % of snaps
He’s good and our edge group sucks
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-defensive-line-weapon-prize-andre-carter-20191227-cnsafrrobnbhdocri7en2dj2z4-story.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true
This article is about DL Coach Andre Branch, very cool read
How long till Manish spins this into something about Greg Williams giving out bounties and dangerous weapons
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Permanent DCM mode must be painful.
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Permanent DCM mode must be painful.
lmao
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Permanent DCM mode must be painful.
Only when I pee
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Jets offense finished the season ranked 32nd in pts/drive (1.23)
Defensively, Jets ranked 9th in fewest pts/drive allowed (1.78). Amazing accomplishment given the injuries they battled and the fact that they had the league's worst avg starting field position (opp's 31.4yd line)
Nania
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Gregg wizardry:
-Fatukasi '18: 3 snaps
-Fatukasi '19: 4th-best graded run defender at DT
-Shepherd '18: 59th in pass rush productivity among DTs
-Shepherd '19: 18th
-Phillips: UDFA w/ 9 run TFL, 7th among EDGE
-Adams: 23 pressures, most by S since stat first tracked in '06
Nania
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Wow. Who knew? Williams knows how to use his best player and the head coach doesn’t. *mind blown gif*
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Wow. Who knew? Williams knows how to use his best player and the head coach doesn’t. *mind blown gif*
Williams is also capable of taking scrubs and nobodies and turning them into effective players, rather using them as an excuse for why his unit is failing.
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Wow. Who knew? Williams knows how to use his best player and the head coach doesn’t. *mind blown gif*
Bell is far from the best player on offense.
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#Jets called Pierre Desir 30m after the #Colts cut him. So did 5 others
Desir started his research, calling former teammate Nate Hairston to ask about NY
But then Gregg Williams called him
"Pretty much solidified my decision to sign with the Jets”
Hughes
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Geggg- contract fa life!
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Jenkins also had options to play with Patriots and Ravens. But he wanted to play for Gregg Williams again.
Manish
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Geg for HC
SFD
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So glad he turned down the Pats.
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I want to see Greggggg line up every single one of our ILB’s plus Jamal and send the house
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https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1293926810451947520?s=21
Marcus Maye SZN
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I want to see Greggggg line up every single one of our ILB’s plus Jamal and send the house
Pain
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Pain
Geg just said Jamal will get bored with the vanilla defensive scheme they run in Seattle. lol
#shotsfired
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Pain
No but see it was actually really good that we got rid of Jamal because he said horrible things about the head coach to the journalist we all hate and that's far more important than what happens on the football field, so you should be happy.
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No but see it was actually really good that we got rid of Jamal because he said horrible things about the head coach to the journalist we all hate and that's far more important than what happens on the football field, so you should be happy.
I'm happy about the haul we got for a SS.
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Geg just said Jamal will get bored with the vanilla defensive scheme they run in Seattle. lol
#shotsfired
https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1293926810451947520?s=21
Marcus Maye SZN
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Dave “Softy” Mahler @Softykjr
Carroll on what Jamal Adams brings to the team as a pass rusher:
"He's not bringing Gregg Williams with him thats for sure."
That's actually pretty good.
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The Jets led the league in RSWR last season. Accordingly, they were second in the league in both yards per carry allowed and expected points added on run plays, which should boost confidence in the metric. The Jets were followed by the Seahawks, Cardinals, Cowboys, Broncos and Patriots in RSWR.
RSWR = Run Stop Win Rate
https://twitter.com/espnstatsinfo/status/1303357796856090624?s=21
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Bounty Gate 2020
LFG
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RSWR = Run Stop Win Rate
https://twitter.com/espnstatsinfo/status/1303357796856090624?s=21
I feel like we have a good run D 4 out of every 5 years and it doesn't translate to Ws
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I feel like we have a good run D 4 out of every 5 years and it doesn't translate to Ws
It's as if it's not 2005 anymore and the game has evolved.
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I feel like we have a good run D 4 out of every 5 years and it doesn't translate to Ws
It can keep games closer than they should be.
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It can keep games closer than they should be.
It can help you get the ball back if you're behind late. If you can't stop the run you're going to be a terrible team.
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Having a high-powered offense that forces your opponent to play catch up has become a much more popular roster building strategy in the last 15 years. Really devalues a strong run D.
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Not enough g's in the thread title. Need moar.
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After Pierre Desir and Nate Hairston combined to allow 7/7 passing for 76 yards, 2 TDs, and 5 first downs in addition to 3 penalties, the #Jets have little reason not to turn back to Arthur Maulet.
Nania
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All three are terrible
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To be fair, 10 plays between 2 players is a very small sample size. I have no faith in Desir or Hairston, but I don't really have faith in Maulet either. I trust Gregg to put the best guys we have out there, even if I don't trust any of our guys to actually be good.
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All three are terrible
Don’t know if any of the numbers are still on here but Maulet played decent last year.
A lot of it was schedule driven and Bless Austin, but our pass defense was better once he was inserted as a starter.
Still think we need to see what Desir has got, given his track record.
I’m done with Hairston, would rather see Quincy or Bryce Hall.
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Don’t know if any of the numbers are still on here but Maulet played decent last year.
A lot of it was schedule driven and Bless Austin, but our pass defense was better once he was inserted as a starter.
Still think we need to see what Desir has got, given his track record.
I’m done with Hairston, would rather see Quincy or Bryce Hall.
I imagine Hall gets some run eventually, but he's still on IR right now, so until he can practice for a bit, he won't be getting any time. Almost feels like our entire class aside from Becton and Mann are almost getting a complete redshirt year with the number of injuries. I still expect Davis to get some run and make a few plays here and there this season though.
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Seeing a lot of complaints about Cover 2 and zone coverage Williams is using. He absolutely has to call zone because we are a relatively weak secondary with no pass rush.
If we play man-to-man with the garbage we have at corner, we're giving up big play after big play.
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Seeing a lot of complaints about Cover 2 and zone coverage Williams is using. He absolutely has to call zone because we are a relatively weak secondary with no pass rush.
If we play man-to-man with the garbage we have at corner, we're giving up big play after big play.
Given our personnel I don’t think it’s really possible for us to have an attacking D like we are used to seeing
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Given our personnel I don’t think it’s really possible for us to have an attacking D like we are used to seeing
He needs to do a better job getting that 2022 pick onto the field and making plays.
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He needs to do a better job getting that 2022 pick onto the field and making plays.
If you had said 2019 pick, I would have been right there with you.
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If you had said 2019 pick, I would have been right there with you.
If I had then I would have been making a completely different point.
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If I had then I would have been making a completely different point.
You would have.
Since I think your 2022 point is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, I was trying to steer you towards something currently relevant.
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You would have.
Since I think your 2022 point is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, I was trying to steer you towards something currently relevant.
So you don't think that the lack of our best defensive player in a decade is currently relevant?
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So you don't think that the lack of our best defensive player in a decade is currently relevant?
Of course it’s relevant. But in my eyes the unit that had the best day on Sunday was the Safeties. Maye was outstanding (in Adams role, albeit he won’t be as good at it as Jamal, that’s just reality) and McdDougald was not bad in his first game for us.
The LBs were a train wreck, we couldn’t cover half the field as Desir and Hairston were freaking awful, and the DL couldn’t gap contain when rushing Allen in the first half, but they did a tremendous job against a traditional run.
Would Adams have helped? Of course he would have. Would it have been actually better on the scoreboard? No it wouldn’t. Jamal was exceptional, but the guy can’t score on his own the points we needed to make up the difference. And frankly if his aAbsence is the difference between picking #1 and #3 or #7 and #9, we are better off not having him right now.
You are leading the “fire Gase” train right now. Guess what having Adams around gives us a better chance to win in spitE of that fuckhead at the helm. No Adams means we are more likely to lose enough games to fire Gase into the sun, and that’s a pretty important thing for this franchise right now, that needs a very big reset at some very important leadership positions.
Plus Jamal is gone. That’s not changing, at least let’s bitch about the things that might change
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So you don't think that the lack of our best defensive player in a decade is currently relevant?
Jamal Adams admitted he tried to force himself out. So your point is moot. He wasn't going to play here.
And i'm very happy for the haul JD got for him.
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Michael Nania
@Michael_Nania
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14m
The #Jets defense has given up 6 TDs on 9 first half drives. That's a league-worst 66.7%. No other team has given up a TD% of more than 50% in the first half.
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Watch Gase fire Gregg Williams before making any changes to the offensive staff
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Watch Gase fire Gregg Williams before making any changes to the offensive staff
I think Gase is fucked whether ownership will admit it or not
Brian Costello
@BrianCoz
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36m
Jets Offensive Rankings
Total: 32
Run: 31
Pass: 30
Scoring: 31
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I think Gase is fucked whether ownership will admit it or not
Brian Costello
@BrianCoz
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36m
Jets Offensive Rankings
Total: 32
Run: 31
Pass: 30
Scoring: 31
Our offensive ranking is a higher number than points we've scored all year.
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I think Gase is fucked whether ownership will admit it or not
Brian Costello
@BrianCoz
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36m
Jets Offensive Rankings
Total: 32
Run: 31
Pass: 30
Scoring: 31
Who's behind us?
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Who's behind us?
Satan
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Who's behind us?
Pass: Vikings - not sure how they are gradung it, but we are 31 in yds, not 30
Run: Giants
Scoring: Chargers
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Pass: Vikings
Run: Giants
Scoring: Chargers
lmao
Imagine how shitty this team would be if Maccagnan actually won the Kirk Cousins bid
Basically $100M for that turd
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lmao
Imagine how shitty this team would be if Maccagnan actually won the Kirk Cousins bid
Basically $100M for that turd
Dodged a bullet there, though the Colts took Quenton Nelson, Braden Smith, and Rock Ya-Sin with the picks we gave them.
If we signed Cousins and drafted those same exact players, are we in a better or worse spot long-term than having Darnold? I'm honestly not sure.
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Dodged a bullet there, though the Colts took Quenton Nelson, Braden Smith, and Rock Ya-Sin with the picks we gave them.
If we signed Cousins and drafted those same exact players, are we in a better or worse spot long-term than having Darnold? I'm honestly not sure.
Kirk Cousins is playing like excrement with Dalvin Cook, Adam Thielen, Justin Jefferson, Kyle Rudolph, and Irv Smith.
I'd trade our skill players for theirs in a second.
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Kirk Cousins is playing like excrement with Dalvin Cook, Adam Thielen, Justin Jefferson, Kyle Rudolph, and Irv Smith.
I'd trade our skill players for theirs in a second.
100%. However, if we think we are ruining Darnold, we might be better off with 2 starting offensive linemen and a solid CB.
We probably would have drafted different players, but it's interesting that the Colts drafted 3 players that the Jets would kill for right now at positions of need. In this alternate reality where we still somehow have 2 extra first-round picks from the Jamal Adams trade, we would likely be doing all we can to get Fields or Lance, assuming we would be too good for Lawrence.
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I think Gase is fucked whether ownership will admit it or not
Jets Offensive Rankings
Total: 32
32nd ranked but top 30 best
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https://twitter.com/j_franklinmyers/status/1308899433057312778?s=21
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Only 3 players so far in 2020 have 7 or more missed tackles.
Two of them are the #Jets' Marcus Maye and Bless Austin.
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Dude deserves to go.
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https://twitter.com/j_franklinmyers/status/1308899433057312778?s=21
“Franklin-Myers was credited with 6 pressures on just 19 pass rush snaps last night, which is absurd.
On the season he has 11 pressures on 47 rush snaps. That's a 23.4% rate, by far the highest of any qualified IDL so far. Donald is 2nd at 18.9%.
Small sample but he is on fire”
-Nania
https://twitter.com/j_franklinmyers/status/1312125663491444737?s=21
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“Franklin-Myers was credited with 6 pressures on just 19 pass rush snaps last night, which is absurd.
On the season he has 11 pressures on 47 rush snaps. That's a 23.4% rate, by far the highest of any qualified IDL so far. Donald is 2nd at 18.9%.
Small sample but he is on fire”
-Nania
https://twitter.com/j_franklinmyers/status/1312125663491444737?s=21
Hamstring injury incoming.
lasereyes.jpg
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Hamstring injury incoming.
lasereyes.jpg
I think he's going after shoulders now.
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he has an awesome name. hope he continues his early season flashes and he becomes a serviceable player for us
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We’ve had a great run on unheralded DL in recent memory
Sione Pouha, Damon Harrison, Foley Fatukasi, Kyle Philips, John Franklin-Meyers
Please stop drafting iDL with premium picks, thanks.
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https://twitter.com/michael_nania/status/1312488546100412416?s=21
Bryce Huff looks better than the Jordan Willis/Harvey Langi/Brandon Copeland/Frankie Luvu’s of the world
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https://twitter.com/michael_nania/status/1312488546100412416?s=21
Bryce Huff looks better than the Jordan Willis/Harvey Langi/Brandon Copeland/Frankie Luvu’s of the world
Half of this board would look better than Harvey Langi.
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Half of this board would look better than Harvey Langi.
I've been lifting and running.
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“Franklin-Myers was credited with 6 pressures on just 19 pass rush snaps last night, which is absurd.
On the season he has 11 pressures on 47 rush snaps. That's a 23.4% rate, by far the highest of any qualified IDL so far. Donald is 2nd at 18.9%.
Small sample but he is on fire”
-Nania
https://twitter.com/j_franklinmyers/status/1312125663491444737?s=21
https://twitter.com/j_franklinmyers/status/1315636164871806979?s=21
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https://twitter.com/j_franklinmyers/status/1315636164871806979?s=21
Can't wait for the new coaching staff to decide he doesn't fit the scheme.
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What happened to Basham? At the end of last year he was making plays, now the only time I see him he's being called for a penalty.
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What happened to Basham? At the end of last year he was making plays, now the only time I see him he's being called for a penalty.
He is a JAG
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https://twitter.com/michael_nania/status/1312488546100412416?s=21
Bryce Huff looks better than the Jordan Willis/Harvey Langi/Brandon Copeland/Frankie Luvu’s of the world
#IDP - Rookie leaders in total pressures for 2020:
1. Chase Young - 14
2. Javon Kinlaw - 11
T-3. Yetur Gross-Matos - 8
T-3. Derrick Brown - 8
T-3. Bryce Huff - 8
-PFF
Huff didn’t play the first 2 games and only plays 36% of the snaps
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#IDP - Rookie leaders in total pressures for 2020:
1. Chase Young - 14
2. Javon Kinlaw - 11
T-3. Yetur Gross-Matos - 8
T-3. Derrick Brown - 8
T-3. Bryce Huff - 8
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Huff didn’t play the first 2 games and only plays 36% of the snaps
#FireJoeDouglas
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#FireJoeDouglas
Kyle Phillips (UDFA)
Bless Austin (6th)
Folorunso Fatukasi (6th)
#BringBackMaccagnan
Also, where the freak is Nathan Shepherd this season?
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Kyle Phillips (UDFA)
Bless Austin (6th)
Folorunso Fatukasi (6th)
#BringBackMaccagnan
Also, where the freak is Nathan Shepherd this season?
You didn’t hear? He entered witness protection never to be seen again
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Kyle Phillips (UDFA)
Bless Austin (6th)
Folorunso Fatukasi (6th)
#BringBackMaccagnan
Also, where the freak is Nathan Shepherd this season?
He got beaten out by Kyle Phillips, JFM, and Bryce Huff.
Now he's going to compete with Daeshon Hall
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He got beaten out by Kyle Phillips, JFM, and Bryce Huff.
Now he's going to compete with Daeshon Hall
Bryce Huff has nothing to do with Nathan Shepherd not playing. JFM does though.
Huff is stealing reps from Jenkins and Basham.
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Bryce Huff has nothing to do with Nathan Shepherd not playing.
Clearly you didnt hear about how Alabamian Tony Stark took Canadian Thanos' infinty stones, and now he don't want to play no more.
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Jets fired him lmaoooo
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That scares me. How can we fire him and keep Gase?
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Jets fired him lmaoooo
lmaoooo
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Who's going to take over? our defensive staff is a bunch of nobodies.
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Who's going to take over? our defensive staff is a bunch of nobodies.
Does it matter?
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Does it matter?
nothing matters until Gase is fired and this season is over.
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Who's going to take over? our defensive staff is a bunch of nobodies.
Presumably Gase's father-in-law.
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Joe Vitt SZN?
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Presumably Gase's father-in-law.
oh good. Joe Vitt sucks.
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I mean, he fucked up, but why fire him at this point unless there was a blow up because of it or a locker room problem?
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I mean, he fucked up, but why fire him at this point unless there was a blow up because of it or a locker room problem?
I'm thinking there was a massive blow-up.
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Just let Neville Hewitt call plays on the field.
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Technically who fired him? Gase, Joe D, or Chris Johnson?
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Just let Neville Hewitt call plays on the field.
This is Harvey Langi erasure
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I mean, he fucked up, but why fire him at this point unless there was a blow up because of it or a locker room problem?
Given what Maye was saying yesterday, my guess is that this is a desperate attempt to prevent a complete locker room revolt.
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Technically who fired him? Gase, Joe D, or Chris Johnson?
If it's Gase, we could be in deep excrement.
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If it's Gase, we could be in deep excrement.
He works for Gase. It's usually the immediate superior who fires someone. Although I'm not convinced that we're firing Gase, I also wouldn't set too much store by this.
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This is Harvey Langi erasure
Good.
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He works for Gase. It's usually the immediate superior who fires someone. Although I'm not convinced that we're firing Gase, I also wouldn't set too much store by this.
If we're not firing Gase (God help us)...this tank is for nothing.
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Given what Maye was saying yesterday, my guess is that this is a desperate attempt to prevent a complete locker room revolt.
Maye might have been the final breaking point, or something that happened in the locker room that we don’t yet know about, but Williams has caused problems for the team already this season with him publicly criticizing the offense.
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If we're not firing Gase (God help us)...this tank is for nothing.
I hope so. It's the only way it might convince you to never hope for it again.
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I hope so. It's the only way it might convince you to never hope for it again.
Do you hate making the playoffs or something? What's wrong with you
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Maye might have been the final breaking point, or something that happened in the locker room that we don’t yet know about, but Williams has caused problems for the team already this season with him publicly criticizing the offense.
In Geg's defense...the offense is a piece of garbage and his D was typically gassed by halftime on a weekly basis.
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Thank you for your service
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Gase firing Greggggg makes the most sense because Gase is the only one who really suffers from him.
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He works for Gase. It's usually the immediate superior who fires someone. Although I'm not convinced that we're firing Gase, I also wouldn't set too much store by this.
Technically he does but did Gase actually hire him or just ok Mike Maccucknan’s hire?
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At this point, a locker room issue would have been the only reason anyone would have been fired before the end of the year. Same for Gase. Being bad is one thing, having the players revolt or quit is another because some of them will still be here next year.
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Technically he does but did Gase actually hire him or just ok Mike Maccucknan’s hire?
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Funny story
The #Jets actually hired Gregg Williams before they hired Adam Gase.
Now they fired Gregg Williams before they fire Adam Game.
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Technically he does but did Gase actually hire him or just ok Mike Maccucknan’s hire?
Either which way the reporting structure still means that he works for Gase (even the Jets aren't so fucked up as to have co-ordinators reporting to anyone other than the head coach), so although it won't have been a decision made in isolation it will almost certainly have been one made and executed primarily by Gase.
That said, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was also instigated by Williams himself. That call at the end of the game yesterday was a massive freak you to everyone, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he told Gase to go freak himself and forced a situation in which there was no alternative but to fire him.
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Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
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Some day, if the Jets get Trevor Lawrence and he's a success, Gregg Williams will be remembered by #Jets fans as a hero. Today, he's an unemployed coach.
Send Geg a crate of Tostitos
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I hope so. It's the only way it might convince you to never hope for it again.
We’ve been over this in the past. What the fans hope/root for is irrelevant. You’ve been rooting for them to win every game this year, nevertheless...
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Funny story
The #Jets actually hired Gregg Williams before they hired Adam Gase.
Now they fired Gregg Williams before they fire Adam Game.
I can’t believe this didn’t work out! freaking Jets fans!
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Dullturd Lograinz has been promoted to ODC. He will collaborate on offensive play calling and take over calling plays on defense
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Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
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Some day, if the Jets get Trevor Lawrence and he's a success, Gregg Williams will be remembered by #Jets fans as a hero. Today, he's an unemployed coach.
Send Geg a crate of Tostitos
Regardless of anyone's views on tanking, I think that every single person involved with this Jets season is not going to be remembered well. The best anyone on this coaching staff can hope for is to be forgotten about.
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Regardless of anyone's views on tanking, I think that every single person involved with this Jets season is not going to be remembered well. The best anyone on this coaching staff can hope for is to be forgotten about.
The only failure on this team is Adam Gase.
I don't blame Williams....the guy was stuck with playing a bunch of rookies on D. Last season, the D was the reason why we went 7-9. Sure as hell wasn't Gase and his 3 and out offense.
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Regardless of anyone's views on tanking, I think that every single person involved with this Jets season is not going to be remembered well. The best anyone on this coaching staff can hope for is to be forgotten about.
Forgetting Dowell Loggains is not possible
I was in a world of hurt the night of the Gase hire
Then I heard Dowell Loggains name for the first time in my life
Then someone posted a picture of him
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This image is seared into my brain
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Forgetting Dowell Loggains is not possible
I was in a world of hurt the night of the Gase hire
Then I heard Dowell Loggains name for the first time in my life
Then someone posted a picture of him
This image is seared into my brain
I didn't say they're going to be forgotten, I said they can only hope to be.
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I didn't say they're going to be forgotten, I said they can only hope to be.
A successful tank will cleanse the franchise.
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I didn't say they're going to be forgotten, I said they can only hope to be.
I’ve mostly forgotten about Marty Morninweig, Jeremy Bates, Chan Gailey, John Morton, etc.
This feels different
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I’ve mostly forgotten about Marty Morninweig, Jeremy Bates, Chan Gailey, John Morton, etc.
This feels different
and Tony Sparano. But he's ded....he can't hurt you anymore.
#RIP
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Today was the first day since he was fired that I remembered Marty Morninweig was an offensive coordinator for the Jets.
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Today was the first day since he was fired that I remembered Marty Morninweig was an offensive coordinator for the Jets.
He vouched for Geno Smith before we drafted him. #NeverForget
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Frank Bush will be named the #Jets interim defensive coordinator, sources tell @TheAthletic
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A successful tank will cleanse the franchise.
...until Christopher Johnson brings Gase back to mentor Lawrence.
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...until Christopher Johnson brings Gase back to mentor Lawrence.
that's not a "cleanse"
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He vouched for Geno Smith before we drafted him. #NeverForget
Mornhinweg for Geno and Peyton for Gase, the 2 worst vouchers in the last decade of Jets football.
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Frank Bush is interim DC.
Who is Frank Bush?
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https://twitter.com/QuinnenWilliams/status/1335997211918938113
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Frank Bush is interim DC.
Who is Frank Bush?
I think he's the Bush's Baked Beans guy.
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I thought Williams did a god job last year. This year he was down Adams and Mosely before we got started, and the secondary is learning on the job. Doesn't excuse the call yesterday and he was going to be fired with everyone else in a few weeks anyway. So now we have four more games for everyone to see he wasn't the problem.
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Technically who fired him? Gase, Joe D, or Chris Johnson?
Yes
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Wonder if his kid is going to stay on until the end of the season.
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Can the NFL be done with this guy now, please. Bush league egomaniac queynte. The naturally-occurring frosted tips should have been a dead giveaway.
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Can the NFL be done with this guy now, please. Bush league egomaniac queynte. The naturally-occurring frosted tips should have been a dead giveaway.
He plans to venture into politics and make a run as the next mayor of Flavor Town.
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Kill the head and the body will die.
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#FireFrankBush
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Gase firing Greggggg makes the most sense because Gase is the only one who really suffers from him.
There is no way it wasn't a Gase decision. That call cost the Jets the game in the end. Given that he hasn't been removed of his duties Gase has every right to fire a guy on his staff.
But you know gase's offense did give up 3 turnovers and went on a 5 drive stretch of TO TO 3-out TO 3-Out. but like It's not the offense's fault though
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After Maye's comments after the game, I'm not surprised at all that Gregg is gone. Tough to criticize a coach like that and not have consequences one way or the other.
I bet Gase has been told he's gone already at the end of the season, and this is a way to help appease players who think the coaches let them down last game, and potentially all season. And quite frankly, if I were a player, I would be pissed. I'd feel like we did everything we could to win that game, then they made an egregiously bad call to put a UDFA rookie in an awful spot, and we lost. 0-16 has to be embarrassing and awful for these players. I hope they get one time they can get a win and get that monkey off their back. But I hope it comes after Jacksonville wins.
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"Hey Joe I know I'm gone at the end of the season but I did help get you your job and this lover of the older lady had the balls to open his mouth two months ago, can you just do me this solid and make sure I don't have to deal with this poopchute for my last month here?"
Gase, probably.
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There is no way it wasn't a Gase decision. That call cost the Jets the game in the end. Given that he hasn't been removed of his duties Gase has every right to fire a guy on his staff.
But you know gase's offense did give up 3 turnovers and went on a 5 drive stretch of TO TO 3-out TO 3-Out. but like It's not the offense's fault though
Why should Gase have any authority whatsoever? The guy can’t even figure out how to draw up a playcalling sequence
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https://twitter.com/QuinnenWilliams/status/1335997211918938113
What was the tweet? It's gone now.
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Gase conference call coming up
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What was the tweet? It's gone now.
Face in hands emoji but I can't see what he was quoting, if anything
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It was just some facepalming emojis with a quote tweet of the Gregg Williams firing news. Not sure what it was supposed to mean, if anything.
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The irony of firing Gregg based on a single terrible play-call after the season long play-calling issues with the offense is pretty funny
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Gase conference call coming up
freak him
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It was a garbage playcall and Williams hasn't done anything to warrant staying here, but firing him and letting Gase stay is angering and stupid as well as concerning.
I grow more fearful all the time that Gase isn't going anywhere.
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It was a garbage playcall and Williams hasn't done anything to warrant staying here, but firing him and letting Gase stay is angering and stupid as well as concerning.
I grow more fearful all the time that Gase isn't going anywhere.
THIS
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It was a garbage playcall and Williams hasn't done anything to warrant staying here, but firing him and letting Gase stay is angering and stupid as well as concerning.
I grow more fearful all the time that Gase isn't going anywhere.
There's no way he's coming back.
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There's no way he's coming back.
You wanted him, now sit back and enjoy him, bitch.
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Gase is gone. You guys are nuts. Gase literally said this week he failed in developing Darnold. You think they're going to keep him to develop Lawrence? Please.
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Gase says he fired Greggg
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Gase says he fired Greggg
Can he fire himself too?
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Can he fire himself too?
I would prefer he light himself on fire, but that's just me.
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Gase says he fired Greggg
The irony of the Jets ownership seeming to be against firing coaches midseason, but having that position be undermined by their own head coach who fires other coaches midseason, is also pretty funny
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I just want to know how big a jackass you have to be to take the DC job here, "yeah lets ride Adam's coattails.......who knows he may get another season"
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You wanted him, now sit back and enjoy him, bitch.
Feel free to rub my nose in it and scream WHAT'D YOU DO. WHAT'D YOU DO!!
Though I think people that actually do that to their pets should get the derriere end of a tire iron.
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Feel free to rub my nose in it and scream WHAT'D YOU DO. WHAT'D YOU DO!!
Though I think people that actually do that to their pets should get the derriere end of a tire iron.
I am making you wear an "I wanted Adam Gase" sign at the next tailgate.
I would make signs for MBGreen and Heismanberg but those faggots (lovers of sex with other men) don't come to tailgates.
Hobbes did wear his bloody jersey from when he face planted a BBQ drunk off his arse so it wouldn't be so bad. lol
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Gase is gone. You guys are nuts. Gase literally said this week he failed in developing Darnold. You think they're going to keep him to develop Lawrence? Please.
I'm gonna start fining posters every time they say Gase might be back. It's not fair for MexJet who's the only one who took the bet.
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I'm gonna start fining posters every time they say Gase might be back. It's not fair for MexJet who's the only one who took the bet.
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I’m scared Gase stays. Please talk me out of it.
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I'm gonna start fining posters every time they say Gase might be back. It's not fair for MexJet who's the only one who took the bet.
FFS I’d forgot about that bet. My day has become even more miserable 😓
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I would prefer he light himself on fire, but that's just me.
That would be materially better
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I'm gonna start fining posters every time they say Gase might be back. It's not fair for MexJet who's the only one who took the bet.
I had to search back and find it. Of course no one took it because you offered a excrement bet, no one at all has suggested that it's a 50:50 chance. If I said it's 20% chance of him staying then it's plenty to be fearful of. Offer me 4:1 odds and I'm interested.
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0-16 guarantees Gase is fired. #TankTime
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It would be fun just to read this board. I can almost stand another year, we'd have Trevor and the next #1 pick, along with Seattle's. Silver lining to everything.
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The irony of the Jets ownership seeming to be against firing coaches midseason, but having that position be undermined by their own head coach who fires other coaches midseason, is also pretty funny
The whole point of not wanting to fire Gase mid season was so they wouldn’t have to name Williams HC for the interim, according to Hughes.
If that’s the case this might have made it more likely to toss Gase, not that it would make any difference at this point.
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Is there anyway the defense actually plays better the rest of the year? Or does this dramatically increase the odds of the tank?
Especially considering Gase has had zero involvement in the defense
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Is there anyway the defense actually plays better the rest of the year?
I doubt it. We have good players up front and have been decent against the run, inexperienced backups now starting in the secondary, so every week a WR or TE has a record setting game against us. I don't know if there is a coach alive, certainly not left on our staff, that is stopping Wilson, Goff, Baker or Cam with this group.
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I had to search back and find it. Of course no one took it because you offered a excrement bet, no one at all has suggested that it's a 50:50 chance. If I said it's 20% chance of him staying then it's plenty to be fearful of. Offer me 4:1 odds and I'm interested.
That's a lot of words for "I'm a whiny baby"
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That was my first thought as well
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That's a lot of words for "I'm a whiny baby"
"I offered you a stupid bet and then you didn't take it so now you have to shut up because I don't like what you say." I'm not the one whining.
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"I offered you a stupid bet and then you didn't take it so now you have to shut up because I don't like what you say." I'm not the one whining.
Everyone exposing the rest of us to their mental diarrhea re: Gase 2021 is whining and should put up or shut up.
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Everyone exposing the rest of us to their mental diarrhea re: Gase 2021 is whining and should put up or shut up.
Give me 4:1 and I will.
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Give me 4:1 and I will.
"I don't actually believe the dumb thing I keep repeating."
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I don't care how dumb you think the Johnsons are
If you think there's a 20% chance we keep a head coach who ruined a franchise QB and led us to a 0-16 season, will be responsible for for acclimating an even more important rookie HC, oh and wasn't even picked by our GM you're freaking insane.
If you put the odds of Gase coming back at 1 in 50 then maybe you'd have a point
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Half of all coaches to go 0-16 have kept their jobs the following season. But here's the weirder thing, half of all coaches to go 1-15 have also kept their jobs the following season.
Having an epically bad season isn't the death sentence many of you seem to think it is. And our owners are hardly the most reliable or logical.
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Half of all coaches to go 0-16 have kept their jobs the following season. But here's the weirder thing, half of all coaches to go 1-15 have also kept their jobs the following season.
Having an epically bad season isn't the death sentence many of you seem to think it is. And our owners are hardly the most reliable or logical.
Fair point but now you're talking about a GM who didn't hire this coach.
And this coach who oversaw the ruining of a highly talented young QB. There is no freaking way Joe Douglas should be willing to bank the entirety of his GM career on whether Gase will ruin Trevor Lawrence as well.
If Douglas decides he thinks Darnold is the future, and Gase is the man to fix him. Then maybe I could see there being a small sliver of possibilities of retaining Gase.
But to go all in on Gase developing Lawrence would be absolute freaking lunacy
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The GM didn't hire the coach, but the coach got his buddy the GM job. That GM also has absolutely no say in who the head coach is under the current organizational pyramid.
You can write off any fears that Gase will still be here in a month, and while it would be insane for him to keep his job it wouldn't even be the most insane thing I've heard this week.
I think it's a huge longshot that Gase keeps his job, but it's a non-zero chance.
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This is interesting - guy analyses every one of Williams' defensive plays in a Hail Mary situation for which he can find footage.
https://youtu.be/eH28hud86jg
TL;DW - up to 2010 he always called prevent, post 2010 he's always sent blitz and it has worked each time until this Sunday. The analyst in the video conjectures that it's because Williams thinks it's better to stop the ball getting out in the first place, or force it out too early for the receivers to get in position to compete, than allow the ball to get to the EZ in a toss up scenario.
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This is interesting - guy analyses every one of Williams' defensive plays in a Hail Mary situation for which he can find footage.
https://youtu.be/eH28hud86jg
TL;DW - up to 2010 he always called prevent, post 2010 he's always sent blitz and it has worked each time until this Sunday. The analyst in the video conjectures that it's because Williams thinks it's better to stop the ball getting out in the first place, or force it out too early for the receivers to get in position to compete, than allow the ball to get to the EZ in a toss up scenario.
In thinking about this, I expect because we got beat so badly by Agholor the play before, Williams said 'freak that, I'm sending the house' and that's how the thought process actually went.
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It wasn’t a Hail Mary
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...we got beat so badly by Agholor the play before...
Everyone overlooks this, not me because I had him in another FF league. But we're lucky Carr overthrew that one, of course Jets luck only lasts a play or two tops.
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It wasn’t a Hail Mary
No, but it was a Hail Mary situation. If we'd dropped 7 it would likely have become one.
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https://twitter.com/jetupnationcrew/status/1336037493737656321?s=21
freaking Legend
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I always told the kids, if you're gonna go, go swinging.
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https://twitter.com/pardonmytake/status/1347554538291679233?s=21
Well this made for an extremely interesting sound bite.
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https://twitter.com/pardonmytake/status/1347554538291679233?s=21
Well this made for an extremely interesting sound bite.
"The things that Sam sees on the practice field from Gregg Williams will set a quarterback back years."
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https://twitter.com/pardonmytake/status/1347554538291679233?s=21
Well this made for an extremely interesting sound bite.
It did although I'd like them to have asked him to explain more about his practice field comment. Because if Gregg was just bringing the noise a lot in practice and Gase wasn't controlling it and telling him to show a greater variety of looks, I would expect Sam to at least have learned to a) better read where pressure is coming from and b) deal with it better when it does come.
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It did although I'd like them to have asked him to explain more about his practice field comment. Because if Gregg was just bringing the noise a lot in practice and Gase wasn't controlling it and telling him to show a greater variety of looks, I would expect Sam to at least have learned to a) better read where pressure is coming from and b) deal with it better when it does come.
My question is why is Gregg Williams running the scout team defense? Offensive coaches should be in charge of that.
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My question is why is Gregg Williams running the scout team defense? Offensive coaches should be in charge of that.
Good point. Though pro rosters might not have enough for a full scout O and scout D, so maybe the starters go against each other more than college.
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Good point. Though pro rosters might not have enough for a full scout O and scout D, so maybe the starters go against each other more than college.
If I can field a scout team with a 3A high school roster, an NFL team can too.
There's no way in hell an NFL franchise has starting defensive players on a scout team. Sounds to me like Adam Gase was just a nitwit and let Gregg Williams walk all over him.
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If I can field a scout team with a 3A high school roster, an NFL team can too.
There's no way in hell an NFL franchise has starting defensive players on a scout team. Sounds to me like Adam Gase was just a nitwit and let Gregg Williams walk all over him.
Most likely. I only played in college, we had a million guys. I loved scout O, it was so much fun.