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Title: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 14, 2018, 09:52:11 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/14/johnson--johnson-shares-drop-on-reuters-report-that-the-company-knew-for-decades-of-asbestos-in-its-baby-powder.html
Title: Re: “Johnson & Johnson reportedly knew about asbestos in baby powder for decades”
Post by: Badger on January 25, 2019, 09:39:55 PM
Yeah but what about all the jobs that asbestos created?
Title: Re: “Johnson & Johnson reportedly knew about asbestos in baby powder for decades”
Post by: Johnny English on August 26, 2019, 04:33:14 PM
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mbmvab/johnson-and-johnson-ordered-to-pay-dollar572-million-over-opioid-crisis-in-oklahoma
Title: Re: “Johnson & Johnson reportedly knew about asbestos in baby powder for decades”
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 13, 2021, 10:57:15 AM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1414647737577086979?s=21
Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: MBGreen on July 13, 2021, 11:04:28 AM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1414647737577086979?s=21

good night, irene.
Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: bojanglesman on July 13, 2021, 11:11:39 AM
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1414647737577086979?s=21
The vaccine is safe, just not apparently as safe as the mRNA ones.  Small numbers blown out of proportion. 

Honestly, the Johnson and Johnson vaccine would be great for poorer countries, not because it's our "reject" vaccine, but because it's 1 shot and it might be tough to get people in these areas back for a second dose.
Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: MBGreen on July 13, 2021, 11:14:49 AM
The vaccine is safe, just not apparently as safe as the mRNA ones.  Small numbers blown out of proportion. 

Honestly, the Johnson and Johnson vaccine would be great for poorer countries, not because it's our "reject" vaccine, but because it's 1 shot and it might be tough to get people in these areas back for a second dose.

Bo just wants to thin the herd in poorer countries.
Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: bojanglesman on July 13, 2021, 11:26:11 AM
Bo just wants to thin the herd in poorer countries.

Yeah because there are so many cases of Guillain-Barré from the vaccine.  Like 100 cases from 13 million vaccines.
Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: Johnny English on July 13, 2021, 11:27:56 AM
The vaccine is safe, just not apparently as safe as the mRNA ones.  Small numbers blown out of proportion. 

Honestly, the Johnson and Johnson vaccine would be great for poorer countries, not because it's our "reject" vaccine, but because it's 1 shot and it might be tough to get people in these areas back for a second dose.

It was originally Canada's plan to use J&J for vulnerable communities like the homeless for exactly that reason, because getting them to come back for a second appointment within the recommended timescale is very difficult. I don't know if it still is.
Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: bojanglesman on July 13, 2021, 11:33:15 AM
It was originally Canada's plan to use J&J for vulnerable communities like the homeless for exactly that reason, because getting them to come back for a second appointment within the recommended timescale is very difficult. I don't know if it still is.
I agree.  Since Canada seems apprehensive about using AstraZeneca anymore, that one would be good for other countries strictly because it's available in good numbers and richer countries would rather have Moderna and Pfizer.  Might as well use it than let it sit unused.  It's a no-brainer for countries that are getting ravaged by COVID.  I'd take any of them in a heartbeat if I lived there.
Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: Johnny English on July 13, 2021, 11:36:52 AM
I agree.  Since Canada seems apprehensive about using AstraZeneca anymore, that one would be good for other countries strictly because it's available in good numbers and richer countries would rather have Moderna and Pfizer.  Might as well use it than let it sit unused.  It's a no-brainer for countries that are getting ravaged by COVID.  I'd take any of them in a heartbeat if I lived there.

We're only giving AZ as second doses now, no new first doses. We've actually just committed to send most of our AZ orders to COVAX for distribution in the developing world, which makes sense because unlike the mRNA vaccines AZ doesn't need to be stored in the hypercold freezers. I think it keeps in just regular drug fridges.
Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: bojanglesman on July 13, 2021, 11:38:32 AM
We're only giving AZ as second doses now, no new first doses. We've actually just committed to send most of our AZ orders to COVAX for distribution in the developing world, which makes sense because unlike the mRNA vaccines AZ doesn't need to be stored in the hypercold freezers. I think it keeps in just regular drug fridges.

I think that's great. 
Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: MBGreen on July 13, 2021, 12:17:06 PM
Yeah because there are so many cases of Guillain-Barré from the vaccine.  Like 100 cases from 13 million vaccines.
Those 100 people will have their revenge on you.
Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: Badger on July 15, 2021, 07:22:07 PM
https://twitter.com/Reuters_Health/status/1415476256242536450?s=19
Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: bojanglesman on July 15, 2021, 07:23:30 PM
https://twitter.com/Reuters_Health/status/1415476256242536450?s=19
I just used that stuff this weekend.  RIP Bo.
Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: delavan on July 15, 2021, 09:29:56 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Johnson_%26_Johnson_COVID-19_vaccine_developed_by_Janssen.jpg/232px-Johnson_%26_Johnson_COVID-19_vaccine_developed_by_Janssen.jpg)

from the fine folks that brought you

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Johnsons_Baby_Powder_1%2C5_OZS_talc%2C_pic5.JPG/180px-Johnsons_Baby_Powder_1%2C5_OZS_talc%2C_pic5.JPG)

Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: Badger on October 23, 2021, 11:50:59 PM
https://twitter.com/bigblackjacobin/status/1452019172565716998?t=lwWN1s9pPS-d9_gdPL_IPA&s=19
Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: dcm1602 on October 24, 2021, 07:11:40 AM
It does sound scummy of them, but if they truly believe they are legitimately right (in the sense of their product not causing ovarian cancer and this lawsuit truly is frivolous) how wrong are they really?

The science seems to support j&j on this https://www.ajmc.com/view/jama-study-finds-no-link-between-talc-powder-ovarian-cancer

The American cancer society also has put out similar statements.

Tort in this country is freaking terrible, and in America you seem to be guilty until proven innocent
Title: Re: Johnson & Johnson - A Family Company
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 24, 2021, 07:59:14 AM
It does sound scummy of them, but if they truly believe they are legitimately right (in the sense of their product not causing ovarian cancer and this lawsuit truly is frivolous) how wrong are they really?

The science seems to support j&j on this https://www.ajmc.com/view/jama-study-finds-no-link-between-talc-powder-ovarian-cancer

The American cancer society also has put out similar statements.

Tort in this country is freaking terrible, and in America you seem to be guilty until proven innocent

JACKASS I'LL SUE YOU!!11!!1!