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Title: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 29, 2018, 10:31:50 AM
There is significant momentum toward a deal that would send Robinson Cano and Edwin Díaz from the Seattle Mariners to the New York Mets, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. While they characterize a deal as not done yet, there is an increasing expectation a trade will get finished.

A few things could stand in the way of a Canó/Díaz-to-the-Mets deal. The Mariners have not yet approached Canó asking him to waive his no-trade clause, sources tell Yahoo Sports. Still, if there is a deal in place, Canó is expected to agree to it, according to sources.

Passan
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 29, 2018, 12:06:26 PM
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Sources: Mets are motivated to trade Noah Syndergaard with GM Brodie Van Wagenen initiating talks w/multiple clubs. Expectation is he will be traded this winter, FA SP will be signed to fill his spot. deGrom is off limits w/NYM hoping for extension. BVW used to be agent for both

Why tho
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Johnny English on November 29, 2018, 12:12:43 PM
Why tho

Come home Thor
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 29, 2018, 01:20:06 PM
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Sources: 2B Jeff McNeil in play for #Mariners as well as Kellenic/Dunn in potential Cano/Diaz trade with #Mets. #Phillies also talking to SEA, possibly just for Diaz, as @JoelSherman1 said. NYM names would seem difficult to top, but hard to judge without knowing $, full details.

Why tho
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on November 29, 2018, 06:00:49 PM
Why tho

How many years of control does Diaz offer?

EDIT: 4 years before he hits free agency. Idk. Cano at 5 years is just an insanely big bullet to bite even if the Mariners are paying down half his salary.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on November 29, 2018, 07:20:24 PM
the mets are fvcking dumb

if a young ace under team control in thor is traded and we give away good prospects for a 36 year old cano and a reliever when there are good to great relievers on the market that could simply be had for money i am officially going to stop following this piece of excrement team
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 29, 2018, 08:08:12 PM
How many years of control does Diaz offer?

EDIT: 4 years before he hits free agency. Idk. Cano at 5 years is just an insanely big bullet to bite even if the Mariners are paying down half his salary.

The trade was already questionable before the Mets were parting with top prospects and possibly McNeil
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on November 30, 2018, 06:16:32 PM
the mets are fvcking dumb

if a young ace under team control in thor is traded and we give away good prospects for a 36 year old cano and a reliever when there are good to great relievers on the market that could simply be had for money i am officially going to stop following this piece of excrement team

They shouldn't be trading Noah unless its for a cheap, controllable, major league bat. I don't even know off the top of my head who that would be. But I think you're underestimating how expensive relievers are going to be. You wanna give Kimbrel the six years he's looking for?

The trade was already questionable before the Mets were parting with top prospects and possibly McNeil

It's not a terrible trade, provided Cano isn't completely done and gives them another good year or two. Diaz is cheap and locked in. The relief market even in a saturated one such as this is going to produce deals for guys who are 33 years old and up that are going to have people scratching their heads. Andrew Miller hasn't been healthy for a year and a half, if he doesn't get a second year a team is paying anywhere from 8-10 million to take that gamble.

If the Mets want to try and find value, go sign Hamilton for a year and let him be the 8th hitter. If he hits .245 it's worth it for his defense.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 05, 2018, 09:21:52 PM
Ummm can you delete me as the thread starter?
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 05, 2018, 09:22:37 PM
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Van Wagenen says he intends for Peter Alonso to be the Opening Day first baseman.

Good
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 11, 2018, 07:01:40 PM
I wouldn't be too upset with the proposed three way trade with the Yankees and Marlins to bring Realmuto to the Mets and send Those to the Yankees. Plus I think it's Thor's turn to hit the DL this coming season, anyway.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on December 11, 2018, 08:53:24 PM
i am going to stop rooting for this team if we trade Thor

i will fvcking lose it if we trade Thor for a C only to sign an inferior SP on the FA market when there are FA catchers available that are upgrades on our current C

this isn't even factoring in if we trade him to the yankees. i'm actually hoping he ends up there because they're a real fvcking team that does what it takes to win

we traded some of our top prospects including our most recent draft pick who was drawing early comparisons to bryce harper for robinson cano when we already had a promising young 2b and a team-controlled reliever because we weren't willing to spend out of pocket for one/any of the many relievers available on the FA market now that would instantly upgrade our bullpen

this team fvcking sucks, i should actually stop rooting for them now
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 16, 2018, 04:01:46 PM
Mets signing Wilson Ramos, big pickup for them, they haven’t had a catcher in forever
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on December 16, 2018, 05:00:58 PM
Mets signing Wilson Ramos, big pickup for them, they haven’t had a catcher in forever
Good. Now they shouldn’t trade Syndergaard. You never know with this dumbass organization but this should end that ridiculous trade talk.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Badger on December 30, 2018, 05:46:21 PM


i am going to stop rooting for this team if we trade Thor

Never actually seen anyone follow through on one of these threats.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on December 30, 2018, 06:00:37 PM

Never actually seen anyone follow through on one of these threats.

i feel like not following them even without trading thor
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 15, 2019, 06:38:50 PM
The Mets cannot freak up this degrom situation. What they’re doing is smart financially, but it’s also kind of like they’re telling the face of the franchise to freak off.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 15, 2019, 06:39:38 PM
Once Cespedes comes back:

1. Nimmo
2. Lowrie
3. Cano
4. Cespedes
5. Conforto
6. Alonso
7. Ramos
8. Rosario
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on February 15, 2019, 07:45:31 PM
The Mets cannot freak up this degrom situation. What they’re doing is smart financially, but it’s also kind of like they’re telling the face of the franchise to freak off.

The mets are like the knicks of the MLB. We already know what's going to happen. If they end up having a nice thing, it's not going to last for them too long and there will be no stability, just like the 2015 WS appearance.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Johnny English on March 21, 2019, 04:09:26 PM
Mets are changing the name of 126th St next to Citi Field to honour Tom Seaver.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: ons on March 21, 2019, 04:39:36 PM
Mets are changing the name of 126th St next to Citi Field to honour Tom Seaver.

Wish they had done it a year ago, before his apparently advancing dementia has caused him to retire from public life. But still a nice gesture for the best Met to have ever lived.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 21, 2019, 08:18:00 PM
Mets are changing the name of 126th St next to Citi Field to honour Tom Seaver.

He deserves a statue out front of the stadium
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on March 21, 2019, 09:58:21 PM
He deserves a statue out front of the stadium
Fred Wilpon is a Brooklyn Dodgers fan.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on March 22, 2019, 12:27:42 PM
Fred Wilpon is a Brooklyn Dodgers fan.

lol

combined mets/knicks fans suffer from arguably the two worst owners in sports

when the plans for citi field first came out, the only time they started throwing in mets history into the designs was when fans started complaining about it, because we didn't see it anywhere. it was all dodgers stuff

Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Johnny English on March 22, 2019, 12:38:48 PM
combined mets/knicks fans suffer from arguably the two worst owners in sports

(https://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.23767999.1553276066!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/cpt111537579-jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 22, 2019, 09:30:55 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mets-plan-to-honor-tom-seaver-with-statue-and-citi-field-address-change/
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 26, 2019, 07:51:23 AM
DeGrom five-year, $137.5M deal with #Mets includes full no-trade clause, sources tell The Athletic. Gets opt-out after ‘22, same as Sale, even though he is a year further from free agency. Will earn $107M between now and opt-out, Sale, $105M.

Rosenthal
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: IATA on March 26, 2019, 10:03:51 AM
i feel like he coulda done better, but hes still under team control until 2020? i thought he was able to free.

i wonder what this means for noah, considering how much he bitched this weekend
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 26, 2019, 10:44:11 AM
As a Yankees fan, I would've been happy to see DeGrom test the FA waters but this is a great job by the Mets. They'd be crazy not to work with Noah now to keep him too.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on March 26, 2019, 01:23:56 PM
It’s about time this franchise didn’t freak something easy up.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on April 01, 2019, 09:01:36 PM
Callaway in mid season form. He doesn’t bring Familia in to face the righties in Washington yesterday and now he doesn’t have Nimmo bunt with 1st-and-2nd and no one out.

Bailed out by a clutch Rosario hit.

And, lol, now an absolute fuckin bomb by Alonso. Wow.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 02, 2019, 02:43:49 PM
Alonso is a beast
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on April 02, 2019, 04:16:50 PM
Alonso is a beast
And he almost didn’t make the team because this cheap freak of a franchise wanted another year of control on his rookie contract.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 02, 2019, 04:31:03 PM
And he almost didn’t make the team because this cheap freak of a franchise wanted another year of control on his rookie contract.

I would have kept him down if I was running the team, even knowing that it doesn’t give you the best chance to win right now. They would be able to survive with JD Davis and Don Smith for a few weeks. That extra year of control is enormous. He would have been pissed the freak off though, and rightfully so.

It’s an awful rule and they need to change it.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on April 02, 2019, 04:46:50 PM
I would have kept him down if I was running the team, even knowing that it doesn’t give you the best chance to win right now. They would be able to survive with JD Davis and Don Smith for a few weeks. That extra year of control is enormous. He would have been pissed the freak off though, and rightfully so.

It’s an awful rule and they need to change it.
This team and the people who root for this ball-kicking team deserve this. Dom Smith or Davis aren’t ready to be every day starters, they are backups. If we had Greg Bird, on the other hand, I’d have been perfectly happy with keeping Alonso down.

It may be the right move, sitting on that extra year but this organization has been penny pinching for a decade now, it’s not a good look. Especially after he hit over .400 and like 3 or 4 HRs.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 02, 2019, 04:50:38 PM
This team and the people who root for this ball-kicking team deserve this. Dom Smith or Davis aren’t ready to be every day starters, they are backups. If we had Greg Bird, on the other hand, I’d have been perfectly happy with keeping Alonso down.

It may be the right move, sitting on that extra year but this organization has been penny pinching for a decade now, it’s not a good look. Especially after he hit over .400 and like 3 or 4 HRs.

It was the right move to have him make the team. He should have been called up at the end of last year.

Like I said, it was would have been a purely financial (scumbag) decision. I agree that Mets fans deserve this.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 02, 2019, 04:52:21 PM
112.8 mph exit velocity for Pete Alonso on his first career HR, the 6th-hardest hit HR by a Mets player tracked by Statcast (since 2015).

Ahead of him on the list: Cespedes (115.1), Conforto (114.9), Duda (114.1), Duda (113.5), Duda (113.0).

——-

Batted balls with an exit velocity of 112.5+ MPH

2018 New York Mets: 3
2019 Pete Alonso: 2
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on April 02, 2019, 07:00:53 PM
Watching Vargas pitch is like watching paint dry. How the freak is this guy a starter for us?
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on April 02, 2019, 09:37:06 PM
The Mets were another boneheaded decision from Callaway (last night) away from losing, and blowing a 5-run lead tonight. Callaway is worse than Collins was.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 03, 2019, 11:21:38 AM
Watching Vargas pitch is like watching paint dry. How the freak is this guy a starter for us?

my dead grandma who doesn't even watch baseball knows that we absolutely needed to replace vargas this year. the mets are run like a mid market team. once we spent money on other areas, there was absolutely no room left to address this, when it should have. it is also unacceptable that prime players like machado and harper hit the open market and we did not make a run at either, when we had needs with both.

the wilpons are scum
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on April 03, 2019, 01:48:22 PM
my dead grandma who doesn't even watch baseball knows that we absolutely needed to replace vargas this year. the mets are run like a mid market team. once we spent money on other areas, there was absolutely no room left to address this, when it should have. it is also unacceptable that prime players like machado and harper hit the open market and we did not make a run at either, when we had needs with both.

the wilpons are scum
And Alio complains that they didn’t sign those 2 guys when their payroll is worth more $200 million a year and their backups backups are guys like LeMauiex(sp), Tulowitski and Bird. We don’t even sniff elite free agents anymore, we have to trade for guys like Cano coming off a steroids suspension.

I guess we should be planning a parade because we’re 4-1 5 games into the season too, right?
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 03, 2019, 02:04:47 PM
And Alio complains that they didn’t sign those 2 guys when their payroll is worth more $200 million a year and their backups backups are guys like LeMauiex(sp), Tulowitski and Bird. We don’t even sniff elite free agents anymore, we have to trade for guys like Cano coming off a steroids suspension.

I guess we should be planning a parade because we’re 4-1 5 games into the season too, right?

Given the pitching you guys have, it's ridiculous to not have signed one or both of them. You'll get no disagreement from me there.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on April 03, 2019, 02:29:30 PM
Given the pitching you guys have, it's ridiculous to not have signed one or both of them. You'll get no disagreement from me there.
Yeah, we supposedly dangled Syndergaard out there the entire offseason. Only the Mets would make a guy available like that because they’re cheap. At least we signed deGrom. I figured we’d freak that up.

I’m sorry to keep bringing your name up Alio, but it’s pretty frustrating to read that kind of excrement when you’re not a Yankees fan. It just sounds so unrealistic to a fan like me.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 03, 2019, 05:21:38 PM
i wish the mets were run like the yankees/owned by owners like the yankees fan. real winners who prioritize winning above all

the wilpons are only interested in using the mets to recoup their losses after the madoff scheme
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 03, 2019, 07:20:53 PM
degrom fvcking dealing
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on April 03, 2019, 08:20:21 PM
Only the Mets could almost blow a 6-run lead for deGrom in one inning.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 06, 2019, 11:37:01 PM
https://twitter.com/garbageyuppie/status/1114382863007453184

Bahahaha
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on April 07, 2019, 08:03:25 AM
https://twitter.com/garbageyuppie/status/1114382863007453184

Bahahaha
Legend
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on April 30, 2019, 09:03:33 PM
I’ve watched very little baseball this season, and of course, I put the game on tonight. How does Callaway have a job still?
I also love how this Winker guy acted like he won the World Series last night and Familia has 2 outs, no one on base, 2-run lead, and instead of going right after him, walks him on 4 pitches. This whole team is made of glass.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 30, 2019, 10:24:48 PM
I’ve watched very little baseball this season, and of course, I put the game on tonight. How does Callaway have a job still?
I also love how this Winker guy acted like he won the World Series last night and Familia has 2 outs, no one on base, 2-run lead, and instead of going right after him, walks him on 4 pitches. This whole team is made of glass.

https://mobile.twitter.com/snytv/status/1123421609379999745
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 19, 2019, 04:51:50 PM
The Mets just became the first team in 20 months to get swept by the Marlins
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Badger on May 19, 2019, 06:41:31 PM
The Mets just became the first team in 20 months to get swept by the Marlins
Worse than being the first team to lose to the Browns last year
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on May 19, 2019, 07:25:32 PM
Is anybody surprised about this?

Hey, Alio, still hate the Yankees? The first week of baseball is SO important, innit?
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on May 19, 2019, 07:38:17 PM
robinson cano is looking every bit his age, 36, and is somehow claiming that he hustles every single play of his life when he was called out for not running out an inning ending double play

i'm glad we asked the mariners to take on some of our bad contracts and pay for half of cano's contract so that we could trade away our top batting and pitching prospect for him. kelenic continues to rake in the minors
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on May 19, 2019, 08:16:30 PM
robinson cano is looking every bit his age, 36, and is somehow claiming that he hustles every single play of his life when he was called out for not running out an inning ending double play

i'm glad we asked the mariners to take on some of our bad contracts and pay for half of cano's contract so that we could trade away our top batting and pitching prospect for him. kelenic continues to rake in the minors
I’m happy we ended up with Diaz, but, especially given our history, how can anyone be surprised in the least that Cano has been a joke? Kelenic has been maybe the best hitting prospect in the entire minor leagues this year so far.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on May 30, 2019, 11:10:48 AM
Entertaining series in LA so far. deGrom vs Kershaw, Syndergaard vs Buhler last night, a lot of hitting. Our bullpen is as bad as yours, we just cover it up better. Got Ryu going tonight, hopefully will get the game to Jansen, I'm guessing Diaz won't pitch tonight.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on May 30, 2019, 12:40:18 PM
Entertaining series in LA so far. deGrom vs Kershaw, Syndergaard vs Buhler last night, a lot of hitting. Our bullpen is as bad as yours, we just cover it up better. Got Ryu going tonight, hopefully will get the game to Jansen, I'm guessing Diaz won't pitch tonight.

diaz shouldn't have pitched last night.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on May 30, 2019, 12:52:21 PM
diaz shouldn't have pitched last night.

Didn't look like it, he had nothing. Guys were just teeing off, I kind of felt bad for him.

A little surprised they pitched to Bellinger after Turner doubled, but he did represent the winning run so the book says you pitch to him.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on May 30, 2019, 09:14:10 PM
diaz shouldn't have pitched last night.
Mickey Callaway strikes again. The fact he was a pitching coach makes it even worse.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 30, 2019, 09:35:31 PM
Mickey Callaway strikes again. The fact he was a pitching coach makes it even worse.

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Mickey Callaway said Edwin Diaz might be available tonight, despite pitching the past two games and four of the past five games.

Diaz said he is not available tonight.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on May 31, 2019, 02:36:03 AM

What a freaking poopchute. He’s making me long for the Terry Collins days, which is saying something.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on June 13, 2019, 09:06:56 PM
The Wilpons. Van Wagenen. Callaway.

This organization is fucked. The could have kept their prospects. Not made that stupid trade. Had McNeil play 2B. Signed Kimbrel. Cheap organization and it all starts at the top. Any time I pay attention to this team, they kick me in the nuts. 
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 14, 2019, 10:57:47 AM
The Wilpons. Van Wagenen. Callaway.

This organization is fucked. The could have kept their prospects. Not made that stupid trade. Had McNeil play 2B. Signed Kimbrel. Cheap organization and it all starts at the top. Any time I pay attention to this team, they kick me in the nuts. 

This gameplan makes 1000% more sense than what they actually did
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 18, 2019, 09:33:32 PM
https://twitter.com/cut4/status/1141166311575363585?s=21
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on June 20, 2019, 07:45:45 PM
Why are McNeil and Alonso surrounded by such excrement?

Oh yeah....
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on June 23, 2019, 05:27:50 PM
What does it take to get this guy fired?
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 23, 2019, 06:02:32 PM
What does it take to get this guy fired?

https://twitter.com/deeshathosar/status/1142915572222611456?s=21
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on June 23, 2019, 06:22:27 PM
https://twitter.com/deeshathosar/status/1142915572222611456?s=21
That’s exactly why I was asking the question.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Johnny English on June 23, 2019, 07:26:54 PM
Did Larry Brooks get the Mets beat?
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: IATA on June 25, 2019, 12:18:00 PM
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27048818/mets-front-office-making-game-moves

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The New York Mets' front office has dictated at least some pitching moves during games this season, multiple organizational sources confirmed to ESPN's Buster Olney.

The New York Post was the first to report the unusual machinations, citing a specific incident on June 1, when Jacob deGrom was removed from a game while dealing with a hip cramp.

Front offices are typically heavily involved in the planning of lineups and possible pitching matchups before each game, but generally, most managers have the autonomy to make moves through the course of each contest, often applying the information provided by analysts and executives.

Some evaluators with other teams reiterated Monday it is very rare for a member of the front office -- an owner or general manager -- to direct managerial decisions during games.

Under Sandy Alderson, who was fired as general manager of the Mets last year, the manager was left to make in-game decisions. Sources say that has changed under Brodie Van Wagenen, who is in his first year as general manager of the Mets, with directives being forwarded to manager Mickey Callaway through clubhouse staff.

Callaway, in his second year as Mets manager and his first working under Van Wagenen, has accepted and implemented the directives, according to the sources.

Van Wagenen on Monday denied reports he was getting involved in strategic in-game decisions following the Mets' 13-7 loss to Philadelphia, but he said communicating with the training staff during games was "normal protocol."

"We're evaluating the players' health, we're talking about X-rays, we're talking about whether a player -- as you all know -- we try to get information to the press box as quickly as possible about the statuses. That is normal protocol for us," the GM said. "We'll continue to do that and make sure that if the training staff and the health of the player is such that the player can't continue, then that communication happens between the training staff and the coaches."

Callaway downplayed the instructions from Van Wagenen when asked about them after Monday's game, saying his communication with upper management is limited only to injuries.

"I think we're always in communication," Callaway said. "Especially when guys are injured, obviously I've been filled in on what you're talking about. When a guy gets injured on the field or when a guy is actively injured or has something going on, you know everybody is in communication with the training staff to take care of the players the best we can."

The Post reported that Van Wagenen was watching the June 1 game on TV when he relayed an order to remove deGrom in the seventh inning after Callaway and a trainer visited deGrom twice on the mound. Callaway said Monday that deGrom's removal was a mutual decision.

"I think that we got information from all parties and we made the decision to take care of our ace pitcher that's going to be here for a long time," he said. "We all thought it was prudent at that point."

Asked if he has the latitude to manage how he wants, Callaway said, "Yeah, I do, I do. Yeah."

Callaway came under fire Sunday after cursing at a reporter following questions about his decisions on pitching changes. The incident earned him a fine from the team, and he apologized to the reporter, as well as the assembled media on Monday.


sounds high time callaway gets extended
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 27, 2019, 05:06:20 PM
https://twitter.com/bigmeatpete/status/1144344885862031360?s=21

Bahahaha
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 01, 2019, 01:07:32 PM
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Happy Bobby Bonilla Day. Bonilla receives his 9th payment of $1,119,248.20 today from the Mets. He will receive 16 more annually on July 1, thru 2035. The 25 payments were to settle a $5.9M debt in 2000.

https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1145649431460626432?s=19
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on July 27, 2019, 06:38:14 PM
i cannot believe the ineptitude of this organization. it is unfathomable. they may actually be worse than the knicks

fvcking cancerous crooks
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Johnny English on July 28, 2019, 06:05:28 PM
Mets fans, how good are Anthony Kay and Simeon Woods-Richardson?
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on July 28, 2019, 06:54:48 PM
Mets fans, how good are Anthony Kay and Simeon Woods-Richardson?
In all honesty, I don’t know much about Kay and nothing about the other guy.

This trade sucks because I’m guessing this means Syndergaard is a goner. I’m so tired of this excrement.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: MBGreen on July 28, 2019, 06:57:17 PM
The Mets are weird.

Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on July 28, 2019, 07:06:18 PM
The Mets are weird.


This is what happens when you’re owned by cheap assholes who employed an agent to be their GM. This is a stupid trade if they think they have any chance to make the playoffs, spoiler alert...they don’t. This just reeks of them trying to increase their own players trade value which is even dumber imo.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Badger on July 28, 2019, 09:03:32 PM
Wtf Stroman was supposed to be ours

Damn you, Metropolitans
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 28, 2019, 09:30:59 PM
Mets fans, how good are Anthony Kay and Simeon Woods-Richardson?

Kay is solid
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on July 29, 2019, 08:04:49 AM
they're 2 of our best pitching prospects, SWR has nasty stuff but is still very young/raw

we had to overpay in prospects because these cheap fvcking owners had to get money back on the stroman contract. fvcking piece of excrement organization
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on July 30, 2019, 01:48:05 AM
The Mets traded Vargas for a dude that played with Jeff Wilpon’s son in college. Bhahahaha
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on July 30, 2019, 09:56:36 PM
Callaway sucks dick once again.

Edit: bailed out. Still think taking the ball out of Syndergaard’s hand was as stupid as trading him would be.

Lol, further edit: Edwin Diaz is so, so, so bad. Who would trade for this guy? Why not let Lugo start the 9th? This guy is a disaster.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Badger on July 31, 2019, 11:22:27 AM


we had to overpay in prospects

lol
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on July 31, 2019, 11:48:27 AM
I still hate Wilpon and everything they stand for but this guy here, yeah, he’s cool.  I’m still not buying in yet but knowing this guy is going nowhere is good. Plus, Syndergaard not being traded, which is good news.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Pete_Alonso20/status/1156581443889483776?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: IATA on July 31, 2019, 03:06:00 PM

Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
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1m
Mets kept Wheeler and Diaz. Going for it

and syndergard
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on August 09, 2019, 09:33:24 PM
Holy excrement. Ok, I’m sold now. Best win of the year so far.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on August 15, 2019, 12:56:48 PM
Holy excrement. Ok, I’m sold now. Best win of the year so far.
Oops. I forgot who their manager is.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on September 03, 2019, 09:25:28 PM
Callaway should be fired immediately. How do you just assume this game is over??
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 04, 2019, 08:47:09 AM
teams entering the bottom of the ninth with a 6 run lead were 274-0 until last night
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on September 04, 2019, 09:36:45 AM
teams entering the bottom of the ninth with a 6 run lead were 274-0 until last night
Major league pitchers should be able to protect a 6-run lead in one inning, but when you’re barely hanging on to a chance of a wild card, you’re playing a rival on the road, AND Lugo had already pitched (and only threw 10 pitches) leave him in. At the very least, and I’m hardly a fan, have Diaz start the inning IF you are gonna take Lugo out. You know Diaz is too fragile to come in with his back to the wall.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: ons on September 04, 2019, 10:38:29 AM
Major league pitchers should be able to protect a 6-run lead in one inning, but when you’re barely hanging on to a chance of a wild card, you’re playing a rival on the road, AND Lugo had already pitched (and only threw 10 pitches) leave him in. At the very least, and I’m hardly a fan, have Diaz start the inning IF you are gonna take Lugo out. You know Diaz is too fragile to come in with his back to the wall.

Too true. With a competent bullpen/competent bullpen managing we should've easily in position for a wildcard this season.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on September 04, 2019, 11:17:20 PM
kelenic trade keeps fvcking looking worse and worse

absolutely unforgiveable. the meat of this team was here before brodie was. he does not deserve a fvcking GM job in the mlb
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on September 06, 2019, 09:08:00 PM
...and Diaz is in to close for the 9th is something Mets fans should never have to hear.

Shocker.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on September 06, 2019, 09:19:21 PM
The worst trade in Mets history rears it’s ugly head again. Cano will be the only valuable piece here. I called it from the beginning. Calling Cano valuable is very arbitrary too.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on September 07, 2019, 10:38:24 AM
The worst trade in Mets history rears it’s ugly head again. Cano will be the only valuable piece here. I called it from the beginning. Calling Cano valuable is very arbitrary too.

cano is useless. especially when we already had fvcking jeff mcneil

one of the worst trades of all time
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on September 07, 2019, 12:58:24 PM
cano is useless. especially when we already had fvcking jeff mcneil

one of the worst trades of all time
I've made my opinion known on that trade many times. I was just pointing out that that's how bad Diaz is.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Johnny English on October 03, 2019, 04:24:07 PM
Callaway should be fired immediately.

Got there in the end.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on December 04, 2019, 03:46:02 PM
Apparently the Wilpons have a deal in place to relinquish all ownership of the club by 2025. That’s still awhile away but at least there’s some light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully the next rich guy isn’t as much of a douchebag and doesn’t try to control the day-to-day operation.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Johnny English on December 04, 2019, 04:14:43 PM
Apparently the Wilpons have a deal in place to relinquish all ownership of the club by 2025. That’s still awhile away but at least there’s some light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully the next rich guy isn’t as much of a douchebag and doesn’t try to control the day-to-day operation.

"Ladies and gentlemen, I'm delighted to unveil the new owner of your New York Mets, your friend and mine, a legend of this great city, Mister James Dolan!"
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on December 04, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
"Ladies and gentlemen, I'm delighted to unveil the new owner of your New York Mets, your friend and mine, a legend of this great city, Mister James Dolan!"

Lmao...

you know what? As much as that coke-addled trust fund baby has completely destroyed a once proud franchise in the Garden, two schools come to mind.

1. Rangers haven't been half bad under his watch.

2. He'll spend more money than the current ownership. Say what you want about the guy, but at the very least if he owned the team they'd act/spend like they're in the New York market and not in the mid-west.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: guinness77 on December 04, 2019, 05:01:48 PM
His name is Steve Cohen. Never heard of him.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on December 04, 2019, 05:59:37 PM
His name is Steve Cohen. Never heard of him.

worth is 9.2 billion, would be the richest MLB owner right now. doesn't necessarily means he'll spend any money, but it's light at the end of the tunnel

we needed this to come ~2015. the 2-3 year period after 2015 was going to be our best chance at a WS run
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on December 04, 2019, 08:16:13 PM
The guy is a life long Mets fan and made his money in hedge funds. They said he will do whatever he can to make the Mets a winner.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on December 05, 2019, 10:03:48 AM
The guy is a life long Mets fan and made his money in hedge funds. They said he will do whatever he can to make the Mets a winner.

The guy has more money than God. Not sure if anyone watches Billions-Bobby Axelrod is partially based on him.

My allegiance being what it is (get Cole or Straus signed Cash), this is a great day for Mets fans. Olney made the comparison to how successful the post-McCourt Dodgers have been since they had a new ownership group with seemingly unlimited funds take over. I don't see why Mets fans can't be dreaming on the same future.

And honestly, viewing it from a Yankee lens, while most of the fanbase has been outright understanding and supportive of Hal placing a limitation on how much the team is going to spend in favor of developing talent, (Yanks I believe were fourth in payroll behind Boston, Chicago and LA last year-could be wrong), that understanding attitude and good will goes out the window the second the Mets meet or exceed what the Yankees are shelling out in terms of dollars. My team won't have the benefit of their cross-town rival acting like a mom and pop shop anymore.

The days of the franchise operating like the Cincinnati Mets appear to be at an end.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 10, 2019, 04:20:42 AM
The guy is a life long Mets fan and made his money in hedge funds. They said he will do whatever he can to make the Mets a winner.

Got to be better than a family obsessed with a team that left the city in the 50s.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 18, 2020, 11:31:40 PM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1273770671382900738?s=21

Disclaimer: I didn’t even open this article
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: Johnny English on June 18, 2020, 11:50:47 PM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1273770671382900738?s=21

Disclaimer: I didn’t even open this article
Tl;dr: Phil Mushnick doesn't like rude words and someone needs to think about the children.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 19, 2020, 12:35:26 AM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1273770671382900738?s=21

Disclaimer: I didn’t even open this article

Wow, Phil is really giving that cloud an earful.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on June 19, 2020, 09:59:56 AM
i thought it was universally understood that Mushnick is a douchebag.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on June 22, 2020, 01:42:48 PM
A-Rod and J-Lo have apparently found their billionaire partner.

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1275093690248310785?s=04&fbclid=IwAR2kcdzqJTN18FKjsSc_-TOYT-Aq7b_hApq0MkiCYBLAA12E1e_hOLh60RE

Believe me, you'd much rather want this ownership group then Harris/Blitzer.
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: IATA on June 22, 2020, 01:58:10 PM
Quote
Eireann Dolan
@EireannDolan
What’s a successful horse owner?

@TheNatidude
The horses are now clean and sober with full-time jobs.


chuckle
Title: Re: The unofficial 2019 New York Mets Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on June 22, 2020, 02:10:43 PM
that sounds promising but we'll just have to see what happens when they enter serious negotiations with filth like the wilpons