Jet Offensive
Collegiate Football => The NFL Draft => Topic started by: Heismanberg on July 03, 2018, 10:58:57 AM
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Quarterback
Dwayne Haskins - Ohio State
Will Grier - West Virginia
Daniel Jones - Duke
Kyler Murray – Oklahoma
Brett Rypien – Boise State
Running Back
Josh Jacobs - Alabama
Darrell Henderson - Memphis
Devin Singletary - Florida Atlantic
Rodney Anderson - Oklahoma
David Montgomery - Iowa State
Wideout
DK Metcalf - Ole Miss
Kelvin Harmon – NC State
AJ Brown - Ole Miss
Hakeem Butler - Iowa State
JJ Arcega-Whiteside - Stanford
Tight End
Noah Fant - Iowa
TJ Hockenson – Iowa
Jace Sternberger – Texas A&M
Dawson Knox - Ole Miss
Irv Smith Jr. - Alabama
Offensive Tackle
Jawann Taylor – Florida
David Edwards – Wisconsin
Yodny Cajuste – West Virginia
Cody Ford – Oklahoma
Jonah Williams – Alabama
Interior Offensive Line
Jonah Williams – Alabama
Dalton Risner – Kansas State
Garrett Bradbury – NC State
Chris Lindstrom – Boston College
Erik McCoy - Texas A&M
4.6.19
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The garbage quarterback class in 2019 makes our trade up and selection of Sam Darnold even sweeter.
Loaded running back and offensive line groups this year, which is also good news for us. The wideout group has some good players too.
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While we are a million miles from draft day and just as many potential scenarios away from knowing what's going to happen, but I think it's safe to say we need to go offense in round 1, preferably bringing in an elite OT or a playmaker.
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This class is going to have one of the best defensive groups of all-time. There's at least seven defensive prospects on paper that could have top three potential right now and four of them are defensive linemen.
Ed Oliver is the best defensive linemen to enter the league since Julius Peppers. He is a better version of Aaron Donald as a prospect.
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While we are a million miles from draft day and just as many potential scenarios away from knowing what's going to happen, but I think it's safe to say we need to go offense in round 1, preferably bringing in an elite OT or a playmaker.
It really depends on how the team performs in 2018. If we're a 6-8 win team, we'll be outside of the top ten and looking at a lot of solid interior offensive linemen, wide receivers, and potentially an elite tight end like Iowa's Noah Fant.
This class will be loaded with pass rushers too. We need at least two quarterbacks to perform well enough to go in the top five. That helps our team out in a big way during the draft.
We're going to have a lot of money to spend in free agency too.
Maccagnan knows he has to build around Sam Darnold. We basically gave up three premium picks to move up for an offensive player, so at least we finally invested on that side of the ball.
I hope we soup up the offensive line in free agency and add skill players through the draft.
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Devin Singletary - Florida Atlantic
Any relation?
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While I'm all about surrounding Darnold with talent, it would be hard to pass up on an elite edge prospect. Luckily, FA can be used as the primary way to add talent to the offense next offseason.
Once again, I'll likely go on hoping we finally draft a good RB prospect.
If I had to guess, tackle and DL are favorites for 1st round targets next year.
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Lock coming out this year?
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Lock coming out this year?
He might. Hopefully he is overrated/overhyped and someone like Miami wastes a pick on him.
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As of now, I'm not sure any of the QBs in this group would have sniffed the top 5 of 2018. Pretty underwhelming class. You could have a Baker Mayfield type rise, but it doesn't look good from afar.
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Way too early to hone in on position groups, but a WR or OT would be funbags. This franchise needs to use thE exact opposite strategy that the Colts took with Luck. Protect Darnold and surround him with talent at all costs.
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I'm not so worried about how positions of need get filled as long as they do. The Jets have plenty of cash for free agents.
I will say that it seems to be very difficult to draft a successful OT from college lately. Maybe there is something to the theory that the spread offenses in college are affecting the development of offensive tackles.
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I'm all for drafting Noah Fart with whatever pick we have
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I'm all for drafting Noah Fart with whatever pick we have
+1
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Maybe there is something to the theory that the spread offenses in college are affecting the development of offensive tackles.
The different variations of the spread have basically depleted the offensive line talent pool in high school football.
The bigger athletes are playing defensive line because offensive line just doesn't matter as much when you're throwing the ball almost immediately after the ball is snapped.
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This draft class could be loaded with pass rushers. Maccagnan holding on to the 2019 first rounder was huge.
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The five best prospects in this class are defenders and there's really no debate about it:
Ed Oliver - DE/DT - Houston
Nick Bosa - EDGE - Ohio State
Rashan Gary - DE/DT - Michigan
Devin White - LB - LSU
Greedy Williams - CB - LSU
Then there's Clelin Ferrell, Dexter Lawrence, Deandre Baker, and Anfernee Jennings right on the outside looking in.
Best defensive draft class since 2002.
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The five best prospects in this class are defenders and there's really no debate about it:
Ed Oliver - DE/DT - Houston
Nick Bosa - EDGE - Ohio State
Rashan Gary - DE/DT - Michigan
Devin White - LB - LSU
Greedy Williams - CB - LSU
Then there's Clelin Ferrell, Dexter Lawrence, Deandre Baker, and Anfernee Jennings right on the outside looking in.
Best defensive draft class since 2002.
Shame we're not going to be picking in the top five.
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Shame we're not going to be picking in the top five.
It pushes other talent to us, specifically OT and WR.
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The garbage quarterback class in 2019 makes our trade up and selection of Sam Darnold even sweeter.
Loaded running back and offensive line groups this year, which is also good news for us. The wideout group has some good players too.
dear lord this
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I really like this wideout class, but I still feel like Noah Fant would be the best player for Sam Darnold.
(Unless Chris Herndon does something)
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Thoughts on Dwayne Haskins?
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Thoughts on Dwayne Haskins?
Heis...my buddy the Giants fan was asking what your opinion on Haskins was too. Thoughts?
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Thoughts on Dwayne Haskins?
He sounds like he plays a steel guitar, drinks a lot of bourbon and writes songs about trains.
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He sounds like he plays a steel guitar, drinks a lot of bourbon and writes songs about trains.
He used to be Mr.Belding
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TIL that Kyler Murray isn't planning to declare for the NFL draft and is going to go play baseball for the As. He's throwing a 70% completion rate with a 17:2 ration and 4 rushing TDs through 6 games, and he's one of the first games I look for on a Saturday because he's so much fun to watch.
It will be a shame if he goes on to become a mediocre OF bouncing between AAA and MLB.
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Thoughts on Dwayne Haskins?
System QB playing in the absolute best system for dual threats at the college level
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TIL that Kyler Murray isn't planning to declare for the NFL draft and is going to go play baseball for the As. He's throwing a 70% completion rate with a 17:2 ration and 4 rushing TDs through 6 games, and he's one of the first games I look for on a Saturday because he's so much fun to watch.
It will be a shame if he goes on to become a mediocre OF bouncing between AAA and MLB.
Lincoln Riley will probably be the top NFL head coach candidate in 2019
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Yoooo the QB for Wisconsin’s name is Hornibrook
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Yoooo the QB for Wisconsin’s name is Hornibrook
Since last year. Where have you been?
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Yoooo the QB for Wisconsin’s name is Hornibrook
He’s terrible
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Since last year. Where have you been?
More of an ACC/SEC watcher but go off sis
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DK Metcalf is out for the season.
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DK Metcalf is out for the season.
Fook
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DK Metcalf is out for the season.
Thoughts on Hollywood Brown with a mid rounder? I want a cheat code for Darnold like Tyreek Hill. Any other guys like that?
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Thoughts on Hollywood Brown with a mid rounder? I want a cheat code for Darnold like Tyreek Hill. Any other guys like that?
Considering Tavon Austin went with a high first-rounder, I expect Brown to be picked in the top 2 rounds of 2019, obvs depending on his Combine and if he puts on a few lbs. I see similar traits as an undersized, lightning-quick playmaker.
Metcalf was the guy I'd spend a top 10-12 pick on, but who knows if he returns to Alabama Ole Miss now.
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Considering Tavon Austin went with a high first-rounder, I expect Brown to be picked in the top 2 rounds of 2019, obvs depending on his Combine and if he puts on a few lbs. I see similar traits as an undersized, lightning-quick playmaker.
Metcalf was the guy I'd spend a top 10-12 pick on, but who knows if he returns to Alabama now.
I don't think that Tavon Austin's professional career to date screams to take a comparable player with a high pick.
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Moved these around A LOT. This offensive class is not very good in most spots, especially QB.
Some really good possession receivers though.
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Moved these around A LOT. This offensive class is not very good in most spots, especially QB.
Some really good possession receivers though.
DK still WR1? I’m leaving him there until we get more info
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DK still WR1? I’m leaving him there until we get more info
Yes, he’s that good
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DK Metcalf and N'Keal Harry are my two favorites I've seen so far, but it's early, and I haven't watched as closely this year as I have in the past.
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Darnold 2 Harry 2019
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Draft this beast plz https://twitter.com/ASUFootball/status/1056322015257214976
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UMASS WR Andy Isabella is a baller.
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new avatar within 2 hours of losing yesterday. no secret who i want Darnold throwing to
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Illinois RB Reggie Corbin is a player to keep an eye on as we get closer and closer to the offseason.
Home run hitter with next level agility in the open field.
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Illinois RB Reggie Corbin is a player to keep an eye on as we get closer and closer to the offseason.
Home run hitter with next level agility in the open field.
can he last until the 3rd round?
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Jawaan Taylor anyone?
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Jawaan Taylor anyone?
Interested to see how he tests
He’s either going to get Bryant McKinnie comps or they’ll say he’s too fat to play tackle.
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Draft is loaded with tall receivers. We really need to land one of these dudes.
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Draft is loaded with tall receivers. We really need to land one of these dudes.
I'll be much more accepting of drafting pass rushing talent in round 1 if the Jets walk away with a tall receiver and at least one guard. Bonus points if they find a developmental tackle.
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I didn't think Riley Ridley would enter this year, but it happened. WR class gets even stronger.
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I didn't think Riley Ridley would enter this year, but it happened. WR class gets even stronger.
Sneaky deep WR class.
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I didn't think Riley Ridley would enter this year, but it happened. WR class gets even stronger.
What do you think of Lil'Jordan Humphrey? Undraftable?
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If we hire Rhule or Kingsbury, keep an eye on Wazzu RB James Williams. One of the best receiving backs to come out in a long time.
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I really like this WR class. It doesn’t have a lot of top end, elite talent, but it’s pretty damn deep. And every year we see guys get drafted in the mid rounds to the right system and turn into studs.
Depending on if we sign a WR in FA, I’m hoping we come away with 2 WR’s from this class, even using one of our 3rds on best WR avail and picking up a Deontay Burnett type UDFA signing would make me very happy.
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I don’t know too much about Gase’s offense yet, but there are a lot of interesting slot WR options in this draft that probably won’t require a premium pick. I don’t know if Gase will incorporate a ‘traditional’ slot WR into his offense, or if he intends to use Lil Quincy there full time or play him more outside, but I firmly believe Darnold would make a killing with a shifty, precise route running slot receiver. I know the dolphins liked to use Albert Wilson’s speed in space last year before he got hurt.
Anyone got on an opinion on these guys and if they would fit the offense:
Andy Isabella - UMass
Greg Dortch - Wake Forest
Olamide Zaccheaus - UVA
Penny Hart - Georgia St.
Hunter Renfroe - Clemson
John Ursua - Hawaii
Mecole Hardman - UGA
Nyqwan Murray - FSU
Ja’Deon High - Texas Tech
Ryan Davis - Auburn
I think Isabella and Dortch may go in in rounds 2-3, but it’s possible they slip with the depth of this class.
Additions to this list are welcome too.
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Penny Hart is awesome and probably a better receiver than Isabella.
Hunter Renfrow is the best route runner in this class and he catches everything. He will be a steal.
Gase is going to want YAC players like he had with Albert Wilson and Jakeem Grant.
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Penny Hart is awesome and probably a better receiver than Isabella.
Hunter Renfrow is the best route runner in this class and he catches everything. He will be a steal.
Gase is going to want YAC players like he had with Albert Wilson and Jakeem Grant.
I believe we already predetermined that Renfrow will be going to New England.
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I believe we already predetermined that Renfrow will be going to New England.
I really hope not
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Penny Hart is awesome and probably a better receiver than Isabella.
Hunter Renfrow is the best route runner in this class and he catches everything. He will be a steal.
What's your comparison of Renfrow and Isabella?
I'd love Isabella in the 3rd/4th round as a faster hybrid of Amendola & Keke Coutee. Seems adept at getting open and separating.
I don't know anything re: Penny hart.
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What's your comparison of Renfrow and Isabella?
I'd love Isabella in the 3rd/4th round as a faster hybrid of Amendola & Keke Coutee. Seems adept at getting open and separating.
I don't know anything re: Penny hart.
https://mobile.twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1088260635878674433
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What's your comparison of Renfrow and Isabella?
I'd love Isabella in the 3rd/4th round as a faster hybrid of Amendola & Keke Coutee. Seems adept at getting open and separating.
I don't know anything re: Penny hart.
Both are fantastic route runners and don’t waste any movement in getting open.
Isabella has elite speed but he doesn’t have great hands.
Renfrow has deceptive speed, elite footwork/round running, and he has the best hands in this draft class.
Renfrow can win contested balls that most slots can’t.
Hart has return ability and he’s just way better after the catch than either of these two guys.
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Both are fantastic route runners and don’t waste any movement in getting open.
Isabella has elite speed but he doesn’t have great hands.
Renfrow has deceptive speed, elite footwork/round running, and he has the best hands in this draft class.
Renfrow can win contested balls that most slots can’t.
Hart has return ability and he’s just way better after the catch than either of these two guys.
https://mobile.twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1088260635878674433
Nice, thanks.
I think a slot guy/quick separator would really thrive in Gase's offense. Someone we could get with our latter 3rd rounder-5th round.
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Terry McLaurin is really killing it so far during the Senior Bowl practices.
WR class is DEEP
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^Soubds like Deebo is killing it again today
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^Soubds like Deebo is killing it again today
He is an animal. Probably the best athlete I’ve coached against.
Medical checks are most important for him.
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He is an animal. Probably the best athlete I’ve coached against.
Medical checks are most important for him.
Have you mentioned that before? Sounds vaguely familiar.
His stock has been down lately, due to injury (and QB production?) but he has always had first rounder written all over him if he checks out health wise.
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This WR class is so strong at the top that Georgia's Riley Ridley isn't even in most top fives.
If Maccagnan doesn't find a way to get a pick in the second round, it could be a failure on his part.
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https://twitter.com/DraftNetworkLLC/status/1088551843129634817
I would like him on this team. Thank you.
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https://twitter.com/DraftNetworkLLC/status/1088551843129634817
I would like him on this team. Thank you.
He cooked Travon Mullen yesterday on a redzone slant. Beautiful route.
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Ole Miss WR DK Metcalf, a projected 1st-round pick who underwent neck surgery last October, was cleared today for all football activity with no limitations, per Dr Kevin Foley, who performed his surgery. Metcalf is training for combine and will participate in all activities there
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Georgia WR Mecole Hardman might be the most explosive player in this draft.
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I’m all in on Jawaan Taylor or DK Metcalf for the Jets
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I’m all in on Jawaan Taylor or DK Metcalf for the Jets
https://twitter.com/bunkieperkins/status/1095043420522008578
DK SZN
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https://twitter.com/bunkieperkins/status/1095043420522008578
DK SZN
he's on the David Boston diet.
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He's listed at 6'4" 225. Based on that photo one of those numbers is a lie, and I don't think it's the first one.
I wonder which comes first, his first TD or his first PED suspension.
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He's listed at 6'4" 225. Based on that photo one of those numbers is a lie, and I don't think it's the first one.
I wonder which comes first, his first TD or his first PED suspension.
He is the most physically gifted skill player to enter the NFL since Megatron.
He’s probably about 240 and will play in the 230s like Calvin did.
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AJ Brown went from seriously overrated to vastly underrated in a matter of months.
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Jesus. Looking like Laron Landry
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Boy out here lookin like a god damn snack
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AJ Brown went from seriously overrated to vastly underrated in a matter of months.
This is the correct take. A lot of people had him as WR1 after DK got hurt, and now he isn’t even a lock to go in the first round.
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You can make a case for 10+ WRs in this draft that would seriously change our offense and contend for WR1 next year
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You can make a case for 10+ WRs in this draft that would seriously change our offense and contend for WR1 next year
we nee a second round pick
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Boy out here lookin like a god damn snack
Can you imagine if rex was here? He'd eat him right up
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UC-Davis wide receiver Keelan Doss has a favorite play he likes to run, not because of how dominant his skill set is on it, but because of the freedom it gives him as a player. The uncertainty of what he’ll do on the route before the Aggies break the huddle makes the play for Davis, who loves the freedom to operate how he sees fit on the option route.
“The play is Slick Left Tahoe,” Doss said. “I love it because of the freedom it gives me to run a variety of routes based on how the defense is aligned. I’m the H on the play, which I also like as big slot receiver, and basically I’m trying to find leverage on the defender off the ball or beat press coverage and run to space against press man.”
“My favorite is the fade in the red zone,” N.C. State wideout Kelvin Harmon said. “That’s just the money ball. I know I’m about to score. I got a DB against me one-on-one, Ryan (Finley) gives me a good ball, that’s almost always a touchdown.”
“I’d say the fade route for sure,” Arizona State’s N’Keal Harry said. “With my size, I know I can go up and high-point the ball in that area, it’s a route that works really well for me.”
“I guess a go route is my favorite,” Iowa State’s Hakeem Butler said. “Like a lot of people here y’all gonna sleep on my speed, but once I get up on you I’m gone and it’s too late. If you put the ball anywhere I’m gonna get it.”
“I love the go-ball in our offense, four verts,” Stanford receiver J.J. Arcega-Whiteside told me. “The first step is beating (the cornerback) off the line of scrimmage. Then after that it’s depending on where his leverage is, where you are on the field. Do you expect it back shoulder, expect it over the shoulder, expect an inside ball if he’s playing outside leverage? All those things go into play, and you’ve gotta make quick decisions to get it right.”
Jon Ledyard
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Cards, Bengals & Bucs sent WR coaches to @UMassFootball pro day yesterday, and Lions, Bills, Jets sent their ST coaches, all to see WR Andy Isabella, who had good workout, caught the ball well and was quick out of breaks. He'll return punts in NFL, too. Stood on combine numbers.
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If you are going to take a guy as high as Isabella should go, strictly to be a return man, he had better be Devin Hester good.
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If you are going to take a guy as high as Isabella should go, strictly to be a return man, he had better be Devin Hester good.
Isabella is not strictly a return man
He has elite speed and he was a super productive receiver
He’ll be a problem in the slot
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Isabella is not strictly a return man
He has elite speed and he was a super productive receiver
He’ll be a problem in the slot
Oh I believe he’s more than a returner, but it’s odd teams would only send their ST coordinators if he’s a guy they had high on their wishlist for WR.
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@movethesticks: I wouldn’t be surprised if only 1 WR went in 1st round.
This would be great for us