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The Rest Of The Sports World => You Don't Know Football => Topic started by: SixFeetDeep on January 25, 2018, 09:53:14 AM
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BREAKING: @VinceMcMahon to make major sports announcement TODAY at 3 p.m. ET. Follow @AlphaEntLLC, and watch the stream live on Twitter, Facebook and YouTube.
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BREAKING: @VinceMcMahon to make major sports announcement TODAY at 3 p.m. ET. Follow @AlphaEntLLC, and watch the stream live on Twitter, Facebook and YouTube.
It would be funny if XFL came back. Ultimately I think it would end the same way unless they either keep it small scale or can somehow steal legit players from the NFL which won't happen. It would be entertaining for a bit though.
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I would love a spring football league. Ultimately it needs talent and entertainment.
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I'm sure they'd go after Manziel ASAP.
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Meh freak Vince.
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Meh freak Vince.
Get The freak Out
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I would love a spring football league. Ultimately it needs talent and entertainment.
Agreed. It would be a great way for undrafted guys and vets trying to prove they can still play to get another chance.
If they try to make it WWE again, it will flop.
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Finally Hackenberg will get the shot he deserves
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This just in: Vince McMahon will acquire the Patriots from the NFL because they are accustomed to pre-scripted football games with a pre-determinded outcome.
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Maybe we can trade Hackenberg to the Columbus Hollywood Hulk Hogans for cash.
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Maybe we can trade Hackenberg to the Columbus Hollywood Hulk Hogans for cash.
The Washington Woooo! have dibs.
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The Washington Woooo! have dibs.
Yes but...the Little Rock SnapIntoASlimJims are ahead of the Woooo! in the waiver wire.
#OhYeaah #DigIt
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Yes but...the Little Rock SnapIntoASlimJims are ahead of the Woooo! in the waiver wire.
#OhYeaah #DigIt
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They clearly have the edge when it comes to uniform.
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Shooter McGavin
@ShooterMcGavin_
If the XFL is coming back, here’s what I need to see:
- Sideline interference allowed
- Players allowed to cut Promo’s after big plays
- Penalties for non-creative celebrations
- Wrestling moves are allowed
- Players are allowed to switch teams during games (Heel turn)
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Can we get Slamball back too?
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I'd really like to see a developmental league. What would be nice if they did it kind of like Arizona Fall League baseball, where teams can send their players to play in the sport's offseason.
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2020 launch, no halftime, less commercials.
Start the season late January - early February. 8 teams, 10 games.
I think it has potential to fill a need. There isn't much for sports. I know this is a huge investment, I don't know exactly how they'll turn a profit but I'll likely tune in. If it's entertaining, I'll stick around.
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If they don't make it retarded, maybe they could get some buy in from NFL. Put teams in bigger cities that don't have NFL teams. Allow NFL teams to send developmental players and coaches, to mix in with the unemployed guys.
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2020 launch, no halftime, less commercials.
Start the season late January - early February. 8 teams, 10 games.
I think it has potential to fill a need. There isn't much for sports. I know this is a huge investment, I don't know exactly how they'll turn a profit but I'll likely tune in. If it's entertaining, I'll stick around.
In the timeframe between the Super Bowl and the start of baseball season, it could find success. It'll be a tough road, but who knows, this could be something fun to watch.
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If they don't make it retarded, maybe they could get some buy in from NFL. Put teams in bigger cities that don't have NFL teams. Allow NFL teams to send developmental players and coaches, to mix in with the unemployed guys.
To me, this is where they could really find success. Rather than us sitting here for 4 months talking about "Why hasn't Hackenberg been given a chance to get some reps" during the regular season, he could be shipped to the XFL to show off how little he's able to professionally.
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Jim Ross needs to be the play by play guy for this.
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BREAKING: Charlie Ebersol & Bill Polian announced the launch of The Alliance of American Football, an 8-team pro league which will begin its 12-wk inaugural season February 9, 2019. Former #NFL stars Troy Polamalu & Jared Allen are also executives in the new league. #TheAlliance
launch is on CBS and there is a partnership for at least one game per week on one of the network's properties
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I really hope this turns out to be something worthwhile. It'll fill in that gap between the Super Bowl and the start baseball season really well.
I also hope it becomes an outlet for fringe guys to gain valuable in-game experience to make their way to the NFL.
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I'm only watching if they get O&A back together for the pre-game.
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XFL announces its eight cities and stadiums
* New York (Met Life)
* Dallas (Globe Life)
* Houston (TDECU)
* Los Angeles (StubHub)
* St. Louis (The Dome)
* Seattle (CenturyLink)
* Tampa Bay (Raymond James)
* Washington, D.C. (Audi)
Kickoff: Weekend after 2020 Super Bowl
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XFL announces its eight cities and stadiums
* New York (Met Life)
* Dallas (Globe Life)
* Houston (TDECU)
* Los Angeles (StubHub)
* St. Louis (The Dome)
* Seattle (CenturyLink)
* Tampa Bay (Raymond James)
* Washington, D.C. (Audi)
Kickoff: Weekend after 2020 Super Bowl
The Glasgow Diamonds didn't make the cut? i'm out.
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Prediction: the New York team will be terrible.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/06/xfl-to-announce-dallas-coach-g-m-on-thursday/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
The Alliance of American Football begins playing this weekend. On Thursday, the XFL will name its first of eight head coaches.
It’s not a coincidence.
With the AAF getting a one-year head start when it comes to the actual playing of games, the XFL needs to generate P.R. buzz whenever and wherever it can. By announcing its first coach on Thursday, the XFL will steal a little thunder from the AAF. Especially if the XFL’s first coach creates some noise.
It likely will. Expect the coach/G.M. of the Dallas franchise to be former Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/06/xfl-to-announce-dallas-coach-g-m-on-thursday/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
The Alliance of American Football begins playing this weekend. On Thursday, the XFL will name its first of eight head coaches.
It’s not a coincidence.
With the AAF getting a one-year head start when it comes to the actual playing of games, the XFL needs to generate P.R. buzz whenever and wherever it can. By announcing its first coach on Thursday, the XFL will steal a little thunder from the AAF. Especially if the XFL’s first coach creates some noise.
It likely will. Expect the coach/G.M. of the Dallas franchise to be former Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops.
How the freak did they pull this off?
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The Dallas franchise gets Bob Stoops, the D.C. franchise gets Pep Hamilton.
Talk about the difference between a Mercedes and a Pinto.
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The Dallas franchise gets Bob Stoops, the D.C. franchise gets Pep Hamilton.
Talk about the difference between a Mercedes and a Pinto.
DC probably shouldn't have named their team the Sandn*ggers. Think they would know better by now.
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^ top of the page, great.
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He Hate Me didn't make the cut? i'm out.
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OFFICIAL: @JimZorn10 has been named the head coach and general manager of @XFLSeattle!
Watch his introductory press conference live from @CenturyLink_Fld, right here on Twitter or on XFL.com , at 1 pm local (4 pm ET). #XFL2020
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It's a great time to be an old, unemployed coach.
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https://twitter.com/coachsamz/status/1116409993446686721
Royal Rumble SZN
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https://twitter.com/coachsamz/status/1116409993446686721
Royal Rumble SZN
You know how much I didn't watch the AAF? I'm going to not watch the XFL even more. These are stupid ideas, and if they want to be a serious feeder/farm league for the NFL they should map to the same rules rather than playing with idiot gimmicks IMO.
"WELCOME TO OVERTIME MULTIBALL, HERE COME THE BIKEMEN LED BY JONATHAN AND BROUGHT TO YOU BY SNICKERS!"
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https://twitter.com/coachsamz/status/1116409993446686721
Royal Rumble SZN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVh0n03DnjQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVh0n03DnjQ)
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They are just on opposite ends of the field like a soccer shootout
It’s an interesting idea to conserve time
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They are just on opposite ends of the field like a soccer shootout
It’s an interesting idea to conserve time
I still don’t get it... what happens if there’s a 50+ yard play? What about when one side reaches midfield?
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I still don’t get it... what happens if there’s a 50+ yard play? What about when one side reaches midfield?
They're driving the other direction. Like in college. Sounds like any turnover results in immediate points, so returns aren't an issue.
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They're driving the other direction. Like in college. Sounds like any turnover results in immediate points, so returns aren't an issue.
Is the rule just for OT?
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Is the rule just for OT?
Yes
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You know how much I didn't watch the AAF? I'm going to not watch the XFL even more. These are stupid ideas, and if they want to be a serious feeder/farm league for the NFL they should map to the same rules rather than playing with idiot gimmicks IMO.
"WELCOME TO OVERTIME MULTIBALL, HERE COME THE BIKEMEN LED BY JONATHAN AND BROUGHT TO YOU BY SNICKERS!"
Pretty sure Vince dosent give a excrement about being a feeder league.
He wants to play "fun" football as an alternative to the NFL in the offseason. Something to keep you interested, but with stupid freaking wrinkles like have 44 players on the field at once making a wall of death like its a megadeth show. keep it fresh, ya know
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Pretty sure Vince dosent give a excrement about being a feeder league.
He wants to play "fun" football as an alternative to the NFL in the offseason. Something to keep you interested, but with stupid freaking wrinkles like have 44 players on the field at once making a wall of death like its a megadeth show. keep it fresh, ya know
So football for people who like WWE? Got it. Hard pass.
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Where and when is this on?
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Where and when is this on?
Hahaha, very #OnBrand
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So football for people who like WWE? Got it. Hard pass.
Sold!
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XFL QBs:
● DALLAS RENEGADES: Landry Jones
● DC DEFENDERS: Cardale Jones
● HOUSTON ROUGHNECKS: Philip Walker
● LOS ANGELES WILDCATS: Luis Perez
● NEW YORK GUARDIANS: Matt McGloin
● ST. LOUIS BATTLEHAWKS: Jordan Ta'amu
● SEATTLE DRAGONS: Brandon Silvers
● TAMPA BAY VIPERS: Aaron Murray
Kevin Gilbride is the HC/GM of the NY team lol
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So football for people who like WWE? Got it. Hard pass.
X10000000000000000000000000000000000
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Jace Amaro just went in the fourth round of the skill position XFL draft
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In all sincerity, I'm thinking of going in with a couple friends for season tickets. 25 bucks a pop to sit in the third row lower bowl, good excuse to tailgate and continue my gambling fix on football, and honestly maybe its just a product of following college more closely as I've gotten older but the rosters have names I recognize.
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I bet their cheerleaders are straight up strippers. Might get some side boob or a nip slip here and there. Noice.
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I bet their cheerleaders are straight up strippers. Might get some side boob or a nip slip here and there. Noice.
Gotta be better than the first two years of the fright crew
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In all sincerity, I'm thinking of going in with a couple friends for season tickets. 25 bucks a pop to sit in the third row lower bowl, good excuse to tailgate and continue my gambling fix on football, and honestly maybe its just a product of following college more closely as I've gotten older but the rosters have names I recognize.
Where’s the stadium
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Where’s the stadium
in the IZOD center
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A little disappointed they didn't get Tebow and Manziel.
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In all sincerity, I'm thinking of going in with a couple friends for season tickets. 25 bucks a pop to sit in the third row lower bowl, good excuse to tailgate and continue my gambling fix on football, and honestly maybe its just a product of following college more closely as I've gotten older but the rosters have names I recognize.
If you do, do me a favor and click on an XFL ad before you buy your tickets. Thanks
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I bet their cheerleaders are straight up strippers. Might get some side boob or a nip slip here and there. Noice.
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I'm ready. freak it.
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Bob Stoops parlaying his highly sought after XFL job into being the HC at FSU!
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actually digging the tweaks on the rules put out by the XFL with the exception of only needing 1 foot in bounds for a completion.
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actually digging the tweaks on the rules put out by the XFL with the exception of only needing 1 foot in bounds for a completion.
Are there run-ins by Dusty Rhodes' corpse?
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actually digging the tweaks on the rules put out by the XFL with the exception of only needing 1 foot in bounds for a completion.
their reasoning is sound though, so it's not so bad imo
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Are there run-ins by Dusty Rhodes' corpse?
take ya tuh the pay windah baybay!
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actually digging the tweaks on the rules put out by the XFL with the exception of only needing 1 foot in bounds for a completion.
Some of them are good (ie kickoffs)
But a lot of them are just too freaking werid
Like allowing two forward passes on a play? Or the punt rules?
I think the final product is going to be different enoguh that it's not going to feel like football
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Chad Johnson will be trying out as a kicker.
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Chad Johnson will be trying out as a kicker.
Fake FG, kicker (85) runs an out and up. Touchdown.
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Anyone else going to see YOUR New York Guardians open up their franchise against those dastardly Tampa Bay Vipers?!?!
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Anyone else going to see YOUR New York Guardians open up their franchise against those dastardly Tampa Bay Vipers?!?!
No
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No
Well then hunny, you haven't lived!
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Anyone else going to see YOUR New York Guardians open up their franchise against those dastardly Tampa Bay Vipers?!?!
Where's the game?
EDIT: Also, when?
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Where's the game?
EDIT: Also, when?
MetLife, Sunday at 2 pm. Marc Trestman's Vipers come into town to take on Kevin Gilbride's Guardians.
I got a free ticket and am gung-ho about a spring league actually working for once, so I'm in.
I do think that Vince has done three things this time around which show he learned from past mistakes of either his league or others.
- He's distanced himself from the product completely. The last league was dead on arrival the second he screamed THISSS ISSSS THE XFL like a mad man and had the WWE (WWF at the time) cross-promoting EVERYTHING. It was branded as a wrestling football league. This has been marketed as purely a spring league with some tweaks in the rules to present a faster game, no WWE involvement, no Vince aside from writing the checks.
-Speaking of the checks, he didn't go into this half-cocked like Ebersol's kid financially. The funding is there, players won't be practicing across state lines because of insurance issues and all that bullshit.
- He hired knowledgable football people with a track record of success (Oliver Luck, Stoops, etc.) and let them do what they do while staying out of their way.
For example, it was Luck's idea to allow for the head coaches to put together their lists of which eligible quarterbacks they think would best fit their system, and allocated accordingly. It's a recognition that initially at least, this league is living or dying based on quarterback play.
Perusing the thread, I found this post from Fen when it was first announced. He was 100 percent right, and I'm glad they've strayed away from this kind of marketing.
Agreed. It would be a great way for undrafted guys and vets trying to prove they can still play to get another chance.
If they try to make it WWE again, it will flop.
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I cannot accurately explain exactly how angry I am at the fact that the same conference has a team named the Guardians and another team named the Defenders.
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I cannot accurately explain exactly how angry I am at the fact that the same conference has a team named the Guardians and another team named the Defenders.
All we are missing is the avengers
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Okay, I won't be at the game, but I think I'll set the DVR to watch it later.
I've long wanted a realistic "minor league" for football. Hopefully, this will work out.
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For those of us who aren't 60 and don't have cable subscriptions.
What are the ways to watch this online?
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For those of us who aren't 60 and don't have cable subscriptions.
What are the ways to watch this online?
Try google
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For those of us who aren't 60 and don't have cable subscriptions.
What are the ways to watch this online?
FOX has an app but i'm pretty sure it requires a cable subscription.
I'd be surprised if buffstream didn't have available streams.
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For those of us who aren't 60 and don't have cable subscriptions.
Saying that people are old fashioned for having cable but not being able to figure out how to stream something...
What a mouth breather
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I'd go if I had free tickets and if it wasn't also my son's bday party.
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Saying that people are old fashioned for having cable but not being able to figure out how to stream something...
What a mouth breather
Well I'm more than capable of finding ways to stream it
But I was more interested if they would be offering official streams, as it's a whole new league and I'd imagine they're going to be desperate for viewerships. I was mostly hoping they'd offer some kind of free stream with comericial crap, sorta like Hulu but I guess that's a long shot
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Well I'm more than capable of finding ways to stream it
But I was more interested if they would be offering official streams, as it's a whole new league and I'd imagine they're going to be desperate for viewerships. I was mostly hoping they'd offer some kind of free stream with comericial crap, sorta like Hulu but I guess that's a long shot
JFC, like I said, TRY GOOGLE
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=xfl+streaming (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=xfl+streaming)
The simplest search term "xfl streaming" turned up this result:
https://athlonsports.com/xfl/watch-stream-xfl-games-online-free (https://athlonsports.com/xfl/watch-stream-xfl-games-online-free)
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Weird how the old geezer who still has cable (and didn't even have cable till he was old enough to legally drink) was able to figure it out, huh?
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For those of us who aren't 60 and don't have cable subscriptions.
What are the ways to watch this online?
Gloating about tech ignorance to own the boomers
Next level dcm mode
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Gloating about tech ignorance to own the boomers
Next level dcm mode
hahaha
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MetLife, Sunday at 2 pm. Marc Trestman's Vipers come into town to take on
Kevin Gilbride's Guardians.
https://images.app.goo.gl/V2xewTiqYUKozqrg6
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I just realised that TSN in Canada has full broadcast rights for this. Go Guardians, I guess....
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I just realised that TSN in Canada has full broadcast rights for this. Go Guardians, I guess....
Yeah! Lets go Guardians! Matt McGloin gonna take us to the promised land baby!
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How sad will it be when the Guardians win a title before the Jets?
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I think they should wait till like March to start next season.
But this league has enoguh to fill that itch
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This is actually some really good football.
The kickoff rule is cool.
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Can I watch this on my Gameboy Color?
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This is actually some really good football.
The kickoff rule is cool.
It's really refreshing to see football where the QB isn't more important than every other player on the field combined
Cutting out elite QB's makes a far better game
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It's really refreshing to see football where the QB isn't more important than every other player on the field combined
Cutting out elite QB's makes a far better game
It’s basically college football with some interesting wrinkles
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these 2 games were great, way more interesting than i expected
if this holds out all season, this could easily go for another year
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Aaron Murray has to get cut after this
He's single handedly making it not a game
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Jace Amaro in the league.
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How the freak did Marquette King end up in the XFL?
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How the freak did Marquette King end up in the XFL?
Hes black
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Hes black
I forgot that most nfl players are white and voted for Trump
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https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1226683081190453249?s=21
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Small but lively crowd for yesterday's game, but the thing is...if there were 12,000 people at MetLife yesterday, 10,000 of them went to a team store to buy merchandise.
I kind of wish they were able to format Red Bull arena to fit football because I think aesthetically the Guardians would be better served playing in a smaller building like that, but I also have a feeling that Vince isn't paying rent to MetLife until this thing shows it can get off the ground.
But I gotta say, I really enjoyed the game. The football wasn't terrible (though Aaron Murray absolutely stinks and McGloin can't hit a deep ball to save his life), and the crowd was energetic.
That Guardians running back is T H I C C
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This is actually some really good football.
The kickoff rule is cool.
It’s basically college football with some interesting wrinkles
I was saying this to my wife while watching. It feels like somewhere between college and the pros. Without the over-the-top WWE-style theatrics of the previous XFL, this is something that definitely scratches the itch for a few extra weeks.
I love that kickoff rule.
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I only watched the Guardians game. 1 and oh baby! Look out!
McGloin looked like a guy with real NFL experience playing against lesser talent. Aaron Murray was awful. There's no way Flowers shouldn't be starting for TB.
The Guardians unis are fire.
The Viper unis are a dumpster fire. The jersey isn't bad, but that helmet looks awful.
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Just my limited viewing experience but it seems like RBs are going to struggle like freak in the XFL. Cards are definitely stacked against them
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I only watched the Guardians game. 1 and oh baby! Look out!
McGloin looked like a guy with real NFL experience playing against lesser talent. Aaron Murray was awful. There's no way Flowers shouldn't be starting for TB.
The Guardians unis are fire.
The Viper unis are a dumpster fire. The jersey isn't bad, but that helmet looks awful.
I bought a hoodie for myself and one for the wife because the color scheme is sick. Hoodies looked very sleek and if its between 45 for a hoodie or 40 for a toque sideline hat, I'll take the hoodie.
Murray had no time to throw, but looked really bad even with a clean pocket. The interception in the red-zone set the tone for the entire game.
Considering Vince owns every team, and the future is completely undetermined, it'll be interesting if the Vipers continue to look horrible offensively if Trestman would feel any sort of pressure. I think even if they have a terrible year he'll be kept on for continuity/name recognition.
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I bought a hoodie for myself and one for the wife because the color scheme is sick. Hoodies looked very sleek and if its between 45 for a hoodie or 40 for a toque sideline hat, I'll take the hoodie.
Murray had no time to throw, but looked really bad even with a clean pocket. The interception in the red-zone set the tone for the entire game.
Considering Vince owns every team, and the future is completely undetermined, it'll be interesting if the Vipers continue to look horrible offensively if Trestman would feel any sort of pressure. I think even if they have a terrible year he'll be kept on for continuity/name recognition.
Murray was awful. He made bad throws to compound his bad decisions. He just didn't look like he belonged. Flowers looked far better, even though he only threw a couple of times. Dual-threat QBs could be a real weapon in this league.
I would think Vince has to be seeking other investors if this thing takes off. I don't see how, even with TV revenue, he can afford to sustain an entire league with 17k attendance by himself.
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Apart from kickoffs, I also really like the shortened play clock coupled with the in-helmet speakers for both the QB and the skill players.
I like that the clock stops in the last 2 minutes as soon as the play is dead, regardless of in or out of bounds. "Comeback period" should be fun.
I'm iffy about the 1 foot in-bounds catch rule. I really like the skill needed at the pro level to drag that second foot's toe.
I want to see things like punts out of bounds and the various point-after attempts before I judge them. I lean towards unconvinced right now.
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Only took one game, but we already have a firing. How odd.
https://xflnewsroom.com/news/wildcats-fire-dc-pepper-johnson-after-1-game/
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Difficult for me to get into these things because I don’t have a rooting interest. I suppose I could get into the local team but I just don’t care about them there’s no emotional attachment for me. Same reason I barely watch games outside of the Jets these days.
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Difficult for me to get into these things because I don’t have a rooting interest. I suppose I could get into the local team but I just don’t care about them there’s no emotional attachment for me. Same reason I barely watch games outside of the Jets these days.
Well it has a short season, and it's a new product. So at least for me I've found it easy to just turn on and watch whoever the hell is playing, not giving a excrement about anyone winning or losing jsut wanting football.
And it helps that the weather is shitty as hell and this is essentially the worst time of year for sports. I'd even go a step further saying the XFL is probably more enjoyable by not having a team. That way you can just throw on a game whenever it fits with your schedule and just watch some football
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I'm already a Guardians fan.
If it were still football season, or the XFL didn't start until baseball season had already started, I'd probably be less enthusiastic. But this immediately follows the Super Bowl and begins before pitchers and catchers even report. I'm in.
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Difficult for me to get into these things because I don’t have a rooting interest. I suppose I could get into the local team but I just don’t care about them there’s no emotional attachment for me. Same reason I barely watch games outside of the Jets these days.
Conversely, since I have no rooting interest, I'm able to get more into the rule changes and start enjoying more of the pieces of the game that the NFL has gotten away from, like meaningful returns.
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https://www.espn.com/xfl/story/_/id/28672076/inside-new-york-guardians-debut-most-important-game-ever-played
Great article from Cimini.
I already have my Guardians hoodie so I'm in. But I think we all agree like...it'd be fun to see whoever we wind up developing a rooting interest for take this thing down, but it would never be the same compared to any of our other favorite teams in any other league.
But still, very encouraging first weekend on a lot of levels.
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I will be rooting for whatever team eventually employs Jets legend Greg Dortch
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Quintin Flowers will be starting for the Vipers this weekend, Aaron Murray out with an ankle injury.
Seattle is expecting 30,000 people for the game. Wow. If they draw HALF of that, it's gotta be considered a success.
Much to my chagrin, Guardians tookies are still sold out.
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Same old Guardians.
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This league needs better QBs.
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This league needs better QBs.
P.J. Walker on Houston looks good so far.
I like the helmets too, a nod to the old Oilers.
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This league needs better QBs.
Shouldnt be too difficult to find.
In all seriousness they need some newer school coaches to bring in more air raid schemes
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Shouldnt be too difficult to find.
In all seriousness they need some newer school coaches to bring in more air raid schemes
freak the Air Raid
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freak the Air Raid
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Houston is on today at 2, PJ Walker, the XFL's Deshaun Watson.
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Houston is on today at 2, PJ Walker, the XFL's Deshaun Watson.
RACIST
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Guardians down 23-3 at the half. Feels like football season.
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I'll say it again. XFL QB play is garbage.
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I'll say it again. XFL QB play is garbage.
Walker is good.
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The Guardians are 1-0 when I watch them.
I may just keep my undefeated record.
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The Guardians are 1-0 when I watch them.
I may just keep my undefeated record.
They got run all over yesterday and could barely move the ball. St Louis and their crowd were fired up.
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QB play wasn't that bad last weekend.
Cardale looked horrible (for once) and Matt McGloin is a joke. But Josh Johnson looked good, and P.J. Walker is staking his claim as guy most likely to transition from this to an NFL roster or practice squad.
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Much needed win for the Guardians.
PJ Walker today at 4 today, be there.
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Yo I had no idea Landry Jones was white.
Til
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Yo I had no idea Landry Jones was white.
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I still haven't figured out d sw0rdz.
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I still haven't figured out d sw0rdz.
Arab homosexual
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I still haven't figured out d sw0rdz.
i am blacker than everybody here except for bojangles, who is actually black
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i am blacker than everybody here except for bojangles, who is actually black
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So as much as I think Florio is a blithering idiot, he made the point that given the XFL's rousing success in the St. Louis market, and the lack of attendance in LA, they should move the Wildcats to Oakland.
It's honestly not a terrible idea. He also brought up moving the NY team to San Diego, but I think its a mistake for three reasons.
1. You still want a franchise in the biggest media market in the country.
2. I think considering the attendance for the first game as opposed to the second, we don't know yet whether thats a definite downward trend, or just a situation where a bunch of people saw the weather last Saturday and said, "lol, nope." A friend of mine who's a veteran of multiple Giants games called it the coldest game he ever went too (fwiw, the coldest game I ever went to and its not even close was the playoff clincher in 09 against Cincy).
3. Whereas St. Louis and Oakland were viable cities who's franchises were essentially robbed from them (definitely the case in St. Louis, debatable in Oakland) over the NFL not even caring about any sort of stadium deal but just wanting their teams in the LA/Vegas market, San Diego was never a good football market. Even in the halcyon days of Marty and LT they struggled to draw.
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So as much as I think Florio is a blithering idiot, he made the point that given the XFL's rousing success in the St. Louis market, and the lack of attendance in LA, they should move the Wildcats to Oakland.
It's honestly not a terrible idea. He also brought up moving the NY team to San Diego, but I think its a mistake for three reasons.
1. You still want a franchise in the biggest media market in the country.
2. I think considering the attendance for the first game as opposed to the second, we don't know yet whether thats a definite downward trend, or just a situation where a bunch of people saw the weather last Saturday and said, "lol, nope." A friend of mine who's a veteran of multiple Giants games called it the coldest game he ever went too (fwiw, the coldest game I ever went to and its not even close was the playoff clincher in 09 against Cincy).
3. Whereas St. Louis and Oakland were viable cities who's franchises were essentially robbed from them (definitely the case in St. Louis, debatable in Oakland) over the NFL not even caring about any sort of stadium deal but just wanting their teams in the LA/Vegas market, San Diego was never a good football market. Even in the halcyon days of Marty and LT they struggled to draw.
Agreed. LA doesn't give a excrement about pro football, not even the NFL. You're going to compete in the spring with Lakers and Clippers playoffs and the Dodgers? No. Definitely keep a team in NY, MetLife gives them an NFL stadium, even if they just use the lower tier it gives the league some credibility. I do enjoy how they use extreme close shots and avoid wide stadium shots on the telecasts.
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Agreed. LA doesn't give a excrement about pro football, not even the NFL. You're going to compete in the spring with Lakers and Clippers playoffs and the Dodgers? No. Definitely keep a team in NY, MetLife gives them an NFL stadium, even if they just use the lower tier it gives the league some credibility. I do enjoy how they use extreme close shots and avoid wide stadium shots on the telecasts.
I still think the move should be to explore trying to play games at Red Bull Arena.
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I still think the move should be to explore trying to play games at Red Bull Arena.
That might work, too. Like when Seton Hall moved from the Meadowlands cave to the Rock and used only the lower level, the atmosphere was way better.
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That might work, too. Like when Seton Hall moved from the Meadowlands cave to the Rock and used only the lower level, the atmosphere was way better.
I have a lot of love for the old Brendan Byrne arena considering the amount of good memories I have there thanks to the Devils/old school WWF/Bruce concerts/freshman year of SHU basketball under the immortal Louie Orr.
I never realized how much of an absolute dump it was until I went back for my college graduation in 09. Whereas I still think Yankee Stadium and Giants Stadium could've been renovated as opposed to building a new facility (and in the case of MetLife, completely downgrading), that place really did need to be demolished.
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I have a lot of love for the old Brendan Byrne arena considering the amount of good memories I have there thanks to the Devils/old school WWF/Bruce concerts/freshman year of SHU basketball under the immortal Louie Orr.
I never realized how much of an absolute dump it was until I went back for my college graduation in 09. Whereas I still think Yankee Stadium and Giants Stadium could've been renovated as opposed to building a new facility (and in the case of MetLife, completely downgrading), that place really did need to be demolished.
Did they finally knock it down? It was just in the way between that mall and the parking garage. Ironically the last time I was ever there was the same night Bon Jovi was opening the Rock, we went to see Van Halen with David Lee Roth at the old arena.
I have mixed feelings, it needed to go and the Rock is way better. That said, the greatest night of my sports fan life was at the old arena when the Devils won the Cup in 1995. Drove up from Maryland for the game and managed to get in.
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I think the bigger mistake they made was their start date. You go from watching Garoppolo and Mahomes duke it out to the very next weekend watching McGloin vs Murray? I think they should have let things rest for a few weeks post SB and then fire up as people are starting to get interested for the draft.
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Did they finally knock it down? It was just in the way between that mall and the parking garage. Ironically the last time I was ever there was the same night Bon Jovi was opening the Rock, we went to see Van Halen with David Lee Roth at the old arena.
I have mixed feelings, it needed to go and the Rock is way better. That said, the greatest night of my sports fan life was at the old arena when the Devils won the Cup in 1995. Drove up from Maryland for the game and managed to get in.
<3 <3 <3 what a turn of events that entire series was when you consider the Devils were big underdogs going in. Eat it Bowman.
The Rock is now what, 13 years old? Still looks as pristine and modern as the day it opened. Just a great facility and great place to enjoy a game.
I think the bigger mistake they made was their start date. You go from watching Garoppolo and Mahomes duke it out to the very next weekend watching McGloin vs Murray? I think they should have let things rest for a few weeks post SB and then fire up as people are starting to get interested for the draft.
True story. Let the Super Bowl hangover breathe for a week or two and give people some time without football so they clamor for it again. I do get their reluctance to want to push their season too far out though, come May you're competing with too many things going on (NHL/NBA playoffs and baseball being in full swing at that point).
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Have to disagree there. In the past, leagues have let a few weeks go by and people forget all about football. While you're in the mode of looking for a game every week, I think jumping right in was a good idea. The quality isn't going to be NFL post season no matter when they start it but it's a hell of a lot better than the combine, what a snoozefest.
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<3 <3 <3 what a turn of events that entire series was when you consider the Devils were big underdogs going in. Eat it Bowman.
East and west didn't play each other that year because of the lockout, so a lot of those predictions were guesswork. Game 3 was on a Thursday night and we got a big lead, my friend called me during that game to come up for Game 4 on Saturday. What a great night, that's going to be hard to top.
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I think the bigger mistake they made was their start date. You go from watching Garoppolo and Mahomes duke it out to the very next weekend watching McGloin vs Murray? I think they should have let things rest for a few weeks post SB and then fire up as people are starting to get interested for the draft.
Presumably the issue there is the main reason for players to play in the XFL is to get onto an NFL team
So if the season started around the draft, that would complicate matters.
Having the season end the weekend of the draft, basically allows its players to try to catch on with nfl teams
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The USFL played into July and guys still caught on with NFL teams. Reggie White and Jim Kelly among them, if you're good you'll get on a team.
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White was making more Money in the USFL than he would have, and did at first, in the NFL. Plus he got to play at home.
Kelly was a 1st rounder in the NFL already, but made more money in the USFL too.
I get your point, but you chose 2 bad examples from a league that tried to price out the NFL.
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White was making more Money in the USFL than he would have, and did at first, in the NFL. Plus he got to play at home.
Kelly was a 1st rounder in the NFL already, but made more money in the USFL too.
I get your point, but you chose 2 bad examples from a league that tried to price out the NFL.
Yeah, it's 40 years ago. The USFL ended up that way but early on it was more like this one, except Hershel Walker being their big get. The regional draft was a big deal to a lot of the players, going back near their home cities got a bunch of guys to leave the NFL.
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First road win for the Guardians, D line and running game was impressive at Dallas, now 3-2.
Houston is undefeated, they're at MetLife Saturday, will be interesting.
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https://awfulannouncing.com/xfl/xfl-viewership-falls-once-again-in-week-4.html
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https://awfulannouncing.com/xfl/xfl-viewership-falls-once-again-in-week-4.html
They're up against the prime of college hoops for most of March. Saturday I had the TV on while doing stuff and between the Seton Hall and Rutgers games I forgot Houston was playing. And they're the best team, one I try to make a point to see.
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Dosent help they play on different channels every week. I didnt get the game last week on tv so I've just started streaming
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Honestly already forgot it was a thing
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Dosent help they play on different channels every week. I didnt get the game last week on tv so I've just started streaming
It's mostly FOX/FS1 and ABC/ESPN.
Not a bad gig for these guys, every game is on national TV and you have to think every GM and coach is recording all the games. PJ Walker will be in an NFL camp.
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I accidentally remembered week 1 to watch the game, enjoyed it, and forgot every week since.
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I've been enjoying the product.
Some games have been stinkers, some games exciting. Kind of like the NFL.
I really love the access we've been getting and I like some of the rule quirks. Put it this way-in a somewhat (thanks SHU basketball) dead sports period for me (Devils not playing for playoff contention), it's held my interest and held me over as I await tournament basketball and the beginning of baseball season.
Given the live gate at some of these cities with Seattle and St. Louis being the biggest producers, and the lack of a viable alternative in terms of programming, I don't see the networks bailing on this. And its been refreshing to see the discussion focused on the product as opposed to seeing an article a day pop up about how mismanaged it is ala the AAF.
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The aaf was terrible, the xfl level of play has been far superior and entertaining.
The xfl has a chance to go for a few years, vince seems willing to keep his hands off it and to keep funding it.
The xfl not having their entire plan depend upon another league investing in it, despite the other league already say no, is also a good point in their favor.
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XFL suspended
And its been floated that this could severely crippled the chances of the league surviving
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I would be surprised if Vince lets the XFL die a second time due to a virus, especially if this eventually blows over and there's no Thanos-level event.
They had a fairly successful first half season, there was buzz around them and they were getting more coverage on ESPN and whatnot as the season went on.
Hopefully this lets them reboot and fix what didn't work.
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I would be surprised if Vince lets the XFL die a second time due to a virus, especially if this eventually blows over and there's no Thanos-level event.
They had a fairly successful first half season, there was buzz around them and they were getting more coverage on ESPN and whatnot as the season went on.
Hopefully this lets them reboot and fix what didn't work.
On the flip slide it absolutely fucks with their viewership watching them consistently
And if it resumes this year they'll have an insane amount of competition on TV. Most significantly they might not even be able to get on major TV networks depending on what other sports they're suddenly competing with for airtime this could catastrophically impact on the league
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They would have the TV to themselves this weekend. Stadiums have been empty anyway, would have worked out perfectly.
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Almost fun while it lasted.
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No way it can survive.
Will guys get paid while not playing? If yes, Vince is bleeding cash that may never be recouped. If no, they'll have to leave the league and find work elsewhere, meaning they may be unavailable to return.
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No way it can survive.
Will guys get paid while not playing? If yes, Vince is bleeding cash that may never be recouped. If no, they'll have to leave the league and find work elsewhere, meaning they may be unavailable to return.
XFL just announced a statement
The season is over. Will continue in 2021, all players will get paid for the season
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Grand opening.. grand closing.
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https://www.espn.com/xfl/story/_/id/29021347/xfl-suspends-operations-lays-employees-no-plans-return-2021
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They were gonna fail either way
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I'd have to guess this has more to do with the stock market than anything
With the stock market crashing the cost of financing the XFL dramatically increases. While the opportunity cost of not investing (in the stock market) also drastically increases. I guess there's also the uncertainty of this whole pandemic impacting next season as well
A shame because the XFL seemed like it had so much potential
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I'd have to guess this has more to do with the stock market than anything
With the stock market crashing the cost of financing the XFL dramatically increases. While the opportunity cost of not investing (in the stock market) also drastically increases. I guess there's also the uncertainty of this whole pandemic impacting next season as well
A shame because the XFL seemed like it had so much potential
WWE lost I think half it’s value in it’s stock the last year
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I'd have to guess this has more to do with the stock market than anything
With the stock market crashing the cost of financing the XFL dramatically increases. While the opportunity cost of not investing (in the stock market) also drastically increases. I guess there's also the uncertainty of this whole pandemic impacting next season as well
A shame because the XFL seemed like it had so much potential
The stock market is almost halfway back up to where it was and the US economy is still mostly shut down. You can make the case it's volatile but it's not crashing anymore. At least not now.
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The stock market is almost halfway back up to where it was and the US economy is still mostly shut down. You can make the case it's volatile but it's not crashing anymore. At least not now.
Assuming he was going to have to sell stock to finance some of the XFL that would make it monumentally more expensive to fund even if it has recovered some.
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Darren Rovell @darrenrovell
BREAKING: XFL files for bankruptcy. N bankruptcy filing reveals that WWE actually does own part of league (23.5% of Class B stock). Among the creditors — Bob Stoops ($1M), Marc Trestman ($777K), Ticketmaster ($655K), other coaches ($583K) and MetLife Stadium lease ($368K).
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1249766388035616771?s=21
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Well, sucks for a lot of people who just lost their jobs.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/16/xfl-layoffs-include-oliver-luck/
Apparently there's still hope the XFL gets bought and lives on
Have to think it's unlikely but at least feasible
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The Rock bought the XFL
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Broncos OT Ja'wuan James
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Broncos OT Ja'wuan James
RIP Herman Cain
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The Rock bought the XFL
Kind of crazy how little it was purchased for
Though there's talks about how it's future TV contracts may not be honored.
I'm not particularly sure what the end game here is as on have to imagine it's still highly unlikely to have another season.
Maybe the Rock wants to turn it into Ballers irl
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He could have done this without the investment firm. His pay for Jumanji 3 alone was $23million. He still has money left over from his Jumanji 3 contract.
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He could have done this without the investment firm. His pay for Jumanji 3 alone was $23million. He still has money left over from his Jumanji 3 contract.
Except he's got to actually run the league
It's like the Arod and Jennifer Lopez thing. Sure they could afford to actually purchase the Mets. But the costs of actually running the team and paying players would be astronomical.
I believe the cost of insurance alone for the XFL was over 10 million dollars for a season.
If the rock tied up the entirity of his fortune in the XFL I'm not convinced he'd have enough capital (the original estimates was it would cost Vince around 500 million to finance the XFL)
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to make a small sidetrack RE the post above -- despite being a fan of a potential arod/jlo purchase of the mets, i don't think their group actually has enough capital to buy the mets. it's going to be between cohen and harris
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Except he's got to actually run the league
It's like the Arod and Jennifer Lopez thing. Sure they could afford to actually purchase the Mets. But the costs of actually running the team and paying players would be astronomical.
I believe the cost of insurance alone for the XFL was over 10 million dollars for a season.
If the rock tied up the entirity of his fortune in the XFL I'm not convinced he'd have enough capital (the original estimates was it would cost Vince around 500 million to finance the XFL)
K, thanks.
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i'm sure the rock will have to input some of his own capital in the beginning to get things going, but I can only assume that the business operating revenues would be covering some of the expenses mentioned above
this is just a blanket statement without knowing much about either the rock's assets or the XFL's finances
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i'm sure the rock will have to input some of his own capital in the beginning to get things going, but I can only assume that the business operating revenues would be covering some of the expenses mentioned above
this is just a blanket statement without knowing much about either the rock's assets or the XFL's finances
Well none of us know excrement about the expenses/revenue first hand.
But when Vince was starting it up it was reported he planned on spending up to 500 million out of his own pocket.
So it's a fairly safe assumption that this new group almost certainly will have to spend at least a few hundred million
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https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/1311648633209712642?s=21
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all these videos dwayne and co are dropping trying to make this league sound so epic and amazing just dont do excrement for me.
"come watch all these rejects who couldnt hack it try one last time, for the love of football"
i dont give a freak
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all these videos dwayne and co are dropping trying to make this league sound so epic and amazing just dont do excrement for me.
"come watch all these rejects who couldnt hack it try one last time, for the love of football"
i dont give a freak
They're gonna respect the heck outta the anthem tho
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They're gonna respect the heck outta the anthem tho
Best part of football if we’re being honest
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I don't know what Rock is thinking. He's gonna lose money and it will flame out again.
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I don't know what Rock is thinking. He's gonna lose money and it will flame out again.
Is the Rock worried about money? He’s probably just bored. He can just crank out Fast and the Furious 32 to cover his losses.
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Is the Rock worried about money? He’s probably just bored. He can just crank out Fast and the Furious 32 to cover his losses.
I can think of better ways to waste money than buying the XFL. Maybe he can buy the Jets.
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Is the Rock worried about money? He’s probably just bored. He can just crank out Fast and the Furious 32 to cover his losses.
He's worth about $300M so he's not concerned about making rent this month, but I would imagine you could burn through that pretty quickly running a sports league. Have to think there's other finance involved.
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I can think of better ways to waste money than buying the XFL. Maybe he can buy the Jets.
I disagree, the infrastructure is already set up. That was the hard part.
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I disagree, the infrastructure is already set up. That was the hard part.
It's like the infrastructure of a house made of donkey excrement.
No one wants to see scrubs play football.
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It's like the infrastructure of a house made of donkey excrement.
No one wants to see scrubs play football.
What are you up to tonight?
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What are you up to tonight?
LOL perfect.
If they play in the spring I'll watch it.
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What are you up to tonight?
Touche
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I hope this works out well for The Rock so he doesn't need to keep making movies.
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I hope this works out well for The Rock so he doesn't need to keep making movies.
I like most movies he has made.
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I like most movies he has made.
Only strengthening Rueben’s case.
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Only strengthening Rueben’s case.
Slight correction: I like most movies he has made that I have seen. I'm sure there are lots he has made that I haven't seen.
I like movies in which things blow up a lot.
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I like most movies he has made.
his movies stink
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Moana was his best movie.
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his movies stink
Fast & Furious movies are great fun. Jumanji movies were excellent. San Andreas, Skyscraper and Rampage were all terrific blockbuster silliness.
He is the king of the popcorn movie.
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Fast & Furious movies are great fun. Jumanji movies were excellent. San Andreas, Skyscraper and Rampage were all terrific blockbuster silliness.
He is the king of the popcorn movie.
Right, yes, that is a list of The Rock's movies. They are bad.
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Fast & Furious movies are great fun. Jumanji movies were excellent. San Andreas, Skyscraper and Rampage were all terrific blockbuster silliness.
He is the king of the popcorn movie.
there has been many a time where i have disagreed with your old dad-like take on entertainment, but i am in complete agreement with you here.
fast and furious movies are great action/entertainment value when you go into it understanding that you're probably going to see some unrealistic excrement (jumping between two overpasses off a speeding car to catch another human body that was thrust in a projectile fashion off a tank or something, catching her without changing trajectory, and then landing on the other overpass breaking all of that momentum by landing on a car's windshield without as much as a scratch to anybody is of course unrealistic as hell, but wasn't it great to see???) but you take it for what it is and try to enjoy it. i loved watching fast five with my friends and will still watch it to this day if it's on.
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I watched 2 episodes of Ballers and that was enough of the Rock’s acting/personality for a lifetime
I can recommend some John Cena movies for you guys (I can’t)
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The Rock Movies I have seen:
Scorpion King (don’t think he speaks)
Walking Tall
Looks like I gave up on the Rock in 2005.
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The Rock Movies I have seen:
Scorpion King (don’t think he speaks)
Walking Tall
Looks like I gave up on the Rock in 2005.
The Jumanji movies are #good
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The Jumanji movies are #good
Kevin Hart + The Rock = I’m out
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Kevin Hart + The Rock = I’m out
I hate Kevin Hart
Jumanji received a glowing review from Armond English
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I hate Kevin Hart
Jumanji received a glowing review from Armond English
i'm definitely out
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i watched dave batista in stuber
he literally spent the entire movie not talking much and squinting his eyes nearly shut because of the excrement that happened with his eyes in the movie
he probably made millions off of that performance
the rock has at least come a long way with regards to acting since the scorpion king, a movie where to me it felt like he barely talked
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i watched dave batista in stuber
He is awesome in Blade Runner 2049, but he's only in it for about 10 minutes
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i wanna see how batista does in dune
rock is boring. his best role in the last 10 years was maui in moana
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Conversing about the acting careers of Pro Wrestlers is so XFL. Carry on.
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He is awesome in Blade Runner 2049, but he's only in it for about 10 minutes
He’s the best part of any appearance of the Guardians of the Galaxy in the MCU.
Rocket is a close second.
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Conversing about the acting careers of Pro Wrestlers is so XFL. Carry on.
Roddy Piper in They Live is the GOAT, fam.
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Thread title updated
https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1412815043281002496?s=19
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I wonder the impact college dudes getting paid has on the XFL
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i wanna see how batista does in dune
I am so apprehensive with this new Dune movie, though I have to say I love the casting choices for Harkonnen and Duke Leto. But the first movie absolutely sucked (though the Sci Fi limited series actually wasn't terrible if you can get over Giancarlo Giannini desperately trying to suppress his accent as Shaddam). Stellan Skarsgard should be an excellent Baron, but considering Harkonnen is pretty much a homosexual pedo in the book, I'll be shocked if they go that route. Batista as Glossu is solid casting as well.
Speaking of Shaddam IV has it been announced who's playing that role?
Roddy Piper in They Live is the GOAT, fam.
I came to chew bubble gum and kick derriere!
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Ari Meirov
@MySportsUpdate
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The XFL has announced their 8 head coaches for when they return to action in 2023: They are ... Wade Phillips, Hines Ward, Rod Woodson, Bob Stoops, Anthony Becht, Jim Haslett, Reggie Barlow, and Terrell Buckley.
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Wade Phillips is still alive?
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Thats quite a few name guys on that list. Good for the XFL.
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Anthony Becht
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maybe Haslett will bring back Aaron Brooks and Deuce McAllister
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Anthony Becht
That confused me more than Terrell Buckley.
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Ari Meirov
@MySportsUpdate
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The XFL (now owned by Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson) has reached a multi-year agreement with ABC and ESPN who will have exclusive broadcast rights for all 2023-2027 game day content, tentpole events and more.
Each season's 43 games will be aired & streamed across ABC, ESPN and FX.
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Ari Meirov
@MySportsUpdate
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The XFL (now owned by Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson) has reached a multi-year agreement with ABC and ESPN who will have exclusive broadcast rights for all 2023-2027 game day content, tentpole events and more.
Each season's 43 games will be aired & streamed across ABC, ESPN and FX.
Grand opening...grand closing in 2023.
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Grand opening...grand closing in 2023.
The DC team had a lot of local support. People really liked to root for local football without giving Dan Snyder money.
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Might have a better chance if all the teams aren't playing in Birmingham