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New York Jets Football => ...And The Home Of The Jets => Topic started by: SixFeetDeep on January 15, 2018, 01:28:29 PM

Title: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 15, 2018, 01:28:29 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/evanrobertswfan/status/952972235094052864?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eios%7Ctwgr%5Eother



Haaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on January 15, 2018, 01:42:14 PM
Manish got his own thread?


terrible.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on January 15, 2018, 02:56:53 PM
What the freak is this excrement?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on January 15, 2018, 03:06:59 PM
What the freak is this excrement?

Shut up and fix Seferian-Jenkins' contract. Or give us his phone number and we'll fix it.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on January 15, 2018, 03:10:02 PM
Shut up and fix Seferian-Jenkins' contract. Or give us his phone number and we'll fix it.

I'll get right on that...
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 15, 2018, 03:21:36 PM
Manish got his own thread?


terrible.

Manish had 6 other threads on this forum before I started this one. Either Badger goes nazi on me or the peanut gallery complains, I really don’t give a freak at this point
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 15, 2018, 03:24:08 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/relax-jets-fans-doug-marrone-wasn-save-franchise-article-1.3757872


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/01/15/listen-joe-b-daily-news-mehta-go-at-it-over-marrone-and-bowles/
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 15, 2018, 03:26:36 PM
Quote
The warped segment of Jets fans wallowing in misery followed another fairy tale pushed by Doug Marrone’s eternal apologists in the wake of the Jaguars’ divisional round win in Pittsburgh Sunday.

This dude starts making excrement up when he gets bored at work just so he has something to “write” about.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on January 15, 2018, 04:29:45 PM
Manish had 6 other threads on this forum before I started this one. Either Badger goes nazi on me or the peanut gallery complains, I really don’t give a freak at this point

I will cut you
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Badger on January 15, 2018, 06:09:01 PM
Manish had 6 other threads on this forum before I started this one. Either Badger goes nazi on me or the peanut gallery complains, I really don’t give a freak at this point
1. This is fine.

2. My opinion matters more than theirs.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on January 15, 2018, 06:46:15 PM
1. This is fine.

2. My opinion matters more than theirs.
your opinion is 4th in the rankings....behind mine, JE and junc.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on January 15, 2018, 07:13:53 PM
your opinion is 4th in the rankings....behind mine, JE and junc.

I always defer to Obergruppenfuhrer Badger when it comes to matters of filing.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 22, 2018, 07:04:23 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/955202248098877441?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eios%7Ctwgr%5Eother

Worst.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on January 22, 2018, 10:40:31 AM
RIP junc
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 09, 2018, 06:50:53 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/971898103505850368

In case it’s deleted:

Quote
Wilkerson is getting some terrible advice. The last place he should be near given his issues with alcohol is Bourbon Street/French Quarter. Who is advising this guy?

Re: Wilkerson visiting Saints
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 09, 2018, 06:52:05 AM
Manish live on the FAN now. They called him out immediately
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 09, 2018, 06:53:47 AM
Manish is claiming Wilkerson showed up drunk to practice 2 years ago. “I’ve alluded to this in my writings in the past.”
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 09, 2018, 06:55:42 AM
Says he was known to have issues with alcohol pre-draft and during his time with the Jets. Not once has Manish given concrete evidence or examples of anything he’s claimed today
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 09, 2018, 06:59:33 AM
Boomer is going in on Mehta. Says if he was a Jet player now he would never talk to him. Says this was a personal attack on Wilkerson.

Mehta says what he said is “widely known within the Jets organization”.

“I’ve alluded to this in my writings”
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on March 09, 2018, 07:01:55 AM
TIL alcohol only exists in New Orleans and NY.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 09, 2018, 07:05:49 AM
Manish lies through his teeth for 10 minutes straight but confirms what we all know: Manish has a personal vendetta against Wilkerson because Wilkerson stopped talking to him after Manish sandbagged him in multiple articles.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 09, 2018, 07:06:44 AM
Now Boomer is reporting that Wilkerson tried to get on the air today to go after Mehta and eventually backed off after Boomer advised against it.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on March 09, 2018, 07:18:25 AM
Now Boomer is reporting that Wilkerson tried to get on the air today to go after Mehta and eventually backed off after Boomer advised against it.

Sloppy fightz
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on March 09, 2018, 07:54:57 AM
Ian Rapoport
 
@RapSheet

This is the surreal life: Mo Wilkerson’s mom is now calling in to @WFAN660 to yell at @MMehtaNYDN and his critiques of her son. #freeagentfrenzy


Bahahahaha!!!!

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/ad2fba20d3a84bb7f573c8caf609f7ae/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on March 09, 2018, 08:09:23 AM
Manish was right about Wilkerson being out of shape and terrible...

What he’s doing is completely unprofessional and pointless especially now that Wilk is gone.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: steves850 on March 09, 2018, 08:32:30 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/971898103505850368

In case it’s deleted:

Re: Wilkerson visiting Saints

What is this? What the hell did Wilk do to Manish? This is personal.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on March 09, 2018, 08:51:36 AM
What is this? What the hell did Wilk do to Manish? This is personal.

He put a jihad on him.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on March 09, 2018, 08:54:10 AM
Well, the Indians and Pakistanis are bitter enemies.....
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on March 09, 2018, 11:16:39 AM
Well, the Indians and Pakistanis are bitter enemies.....

They're both American.....
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on March 09, 2018, 11:20:16 AM
They're both American.....
It was a joke.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 09, 2018, 11:57:40 AM
Wow, Manish has gone overboard. This is the type of thing that can get a guy fired. It wasn't enough to be "proven right" about Wilkerson, now he has to talk about a guy's personal issues (if there even exist alcohol "issues" beyond "Dude stayed out partying a bit too hard last night")?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 09, 2018, 02:07:14 PM
I was actually up with the radio on this morning too, because of no electricity, but I wasn't listening to sports radio.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on March 09, 2018, 02:09:06 PM
I was actually up with the radio on this morning too, because of no electricity, but I wasn't listening to sports radio.

#coolstorybro
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 09, 2018, 02:14:52 PM
#coolstorybro

F*ck you and your f*cking Jets too, I didn't miss that one.

The f*cking Jets.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on March 09, 2018, 02:16:05 PM
I was actually up with the radio on this morning too, because of no electricity, but I wasn't listening to sports radio.

Gay porn is on the radio now?  What a world...
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 09, 2018, 02:48:41 PM
https://www.change.org/p/jets-fans-ban-manish-mehta-from-the-jets-locker-room

Lol because these things always work
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on March 09, 2018, 05:05:39 PM
Manish is a me-first reporter who is mostly concerned with promoting his own career and his own agenda, but he tends to have more of an insight into the inner workings of the Jets more than most reporters.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on March 09, 2018, 06:24:18 PM
Ian Rapoport
 
@RapSheet

This is the surreal life: Mo Wilkerson’s mom is now calling in to @WFAN660 to yell at @MMehtaNYDN and his critiques of her son. #freeagentfrenzy


Bahahahaha!!!!

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/ad2fba20d3a84bb7f573c8caf609f7ae/tenor.gif)

Big E is the freaking man.

GIVEHIMTHEBELTVINCE! GIVEHIMTHEBELT!
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 09, 2018, 08:23:12 PM
https://www.facebook.com/wfan660/videos/10155000806617202/
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on March 09, 2018, 10:37:28 PM
manish is a bitch

the only reason why he's able to have any say over wilk is because wilkerson suffered an injury that he was never able to come back from. prior to it he was one of the most dominant DL in the league and he'll never be the same, but manish is acting like he got one over him

the type of excrement he's pulling now is excrement you wouldn't even see from hormonal teenage girls. the only way he'll ever understand there are consequences to bitchery like this is if he gets bent over like that fucked up white dude at the end of pulp fiction
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on March 09, 2018, 10:45:34 PM
The injury has a lot to do with the decline in ability, but his effort was pee poor in a most games and he also had some pretty terrible character off of it.  He was supposed to be a team leader but he was the complete opposite of that.

Mehta is a joke, but I'm also glad that Wilkerson is gone. 
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on March 10, 2018, 03:56:53 AM
The injury has a lot to do with the decline in ability, but his effort was pee poor in a most games and he also had some pretty terrible character off of it.  He was supposed to be a team leader but he was the complete opposite of that.

Mehta is a joke, but I'm also glad that Wilkerson is gone. 

no qualms from me, letting go of wilk was the right thing to do

i'm just not giving manish credit for anything
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on March 10, 2018, 07:41:04 AM
I wonder how much of his garbage is related to the paper he works for.  Wonder if he gets so much pressure for controversy and clicks that he has to do excrement like this.  Or he could just be a douche.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on March 11, 2018, 03:38:29 AM
Brian Costello is a fat, whiny bitch.  We really do have the worst beat in the NFL.

These guys are so bad, they've made Rich Cimini look competent.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on March 11, 2018, 03:46:04 AM
Gary Myers can freak off too.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 11, 2018, 07:02:20 AM
Hobbes is easily the best beat reporter in NY
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 12, 2018, 06:52:50 AM
Pretty sure Wilk is suing the NYDN and Manish Mehta for defamation
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Libero_2 on March 12, 2018, 07:10:49 PM
Pretty sure Wilk is suing the NYDN and Manish Mehta for defamation

I hope he wins, they fire Mehta and then he can never work again in Jets journalism.

But that he goes to the Boston Globe to become the Patriots beat writer who breaks the story about Brady's gay butt sex with Bellicheck in the cold tub in Foxboro
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on March 16, 2018, 07:39:00 AM
Manish's take on the Cousins' drama leading up to his signing with Minny...interesting read if true.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/details-happened-kirk-cousins-jets-article-1.3877087?utm_content=buffer24c3e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=mmehta+twitter
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Laxin on March 16, 2018, 08:58:00 AM
Manish's take on the Cousins' drama leading up to his signing with Minny...interesting read if true.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/details-happened-kirk-cousins-jets-article-1.3877087?utm_content=buffer24c3e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=mmehta+twitter

I wonder what FA's we lost out on bc of Cousins *according to Manish*
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on March 16, 2018, 09:01:56 AM
I wonder what FA's we lost out on bc of Cousins *according to Manish*

I guess you look at the ones who went early and figure which of those we might have been interested in but didn't have a chance to negotiate with because we were waiting on him. The only ones I can really see fitting the bill there are Robinson, Watkins and Keenum.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 16, 2018, 12:48:25 PM
Manish's take on the Cousins' drama leading up to his signing with Minny...interesting read if true.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/details-happened-kirk-cousins-jets-article-1.3877087?utm_content=buffer24c3e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=mmehta+twitter

That's infuriating. I hope Cousins falls flat on his face in Minnesota.

I wonder what FA's we lost out on bc of Cousins *according to Manish*

It may not be guys they necessarily missed out that have already been signed. It could also be guys who they couldn't commit to who have made visits elsewhere that they could have locked up early instead.

And who knows, maybe they'd have given ASJ or Davis a contract if they'd known Cousins was out earlier?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 09, 2018, 09:26:10 PM
Quote
Jets brass & Baker Mayfield ordered the smoked salmon flatbread appetizer at dinner tonight. Then, the Heisman Trophy winner enjoyed the filet mignon, while Christopher Johnson indulged in the flat iron steak. Maybe. #TMI

Wow Manish is so knowledgeable and well connected #Maybe
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on April 09, 2018, 09:37:24 PM
Wow Manish is so knowledgeable and well connected #Maybe

"Mayfield also ordered 47 appetizers and was too drunk to divide up the bill after 2 Zimas."

Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: reuben on April 09, 2018, 11:28:47 PM
Wow Manish is so knowledgeable and well connected #Maybe

ribeye >> filet mignon

Bust. 
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 10, 2018, 10:14:04 AM
ribeye >> filet mignon

Bust. 

Bone-in, yes.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on April 10, 2018, 10:17:33 AM
Bone-in, yes.

Bones only make a difference to flavour when you're roasting. Grilling and pan frying are way too fast as cooking methods to enable the marrow to impart any more flavour to the meat.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 10, 2018, 10:43:04 AM
Bones only make a difference to flavour when you're roasting. Grilling and pan frying are way too fast as cooking methods to enable the marrow to impart any more flavour to the meat.

You also lose some of the tissue when you cut it from the bone before cooking it, even grilling or pan-frying. Even if you cut it away cleanly, that's extra surface area of the meat to burn during cooking. And personally, I eat, and enjoy, the fat on a ribeye.

I always order bone-in ribeye whenever it's available where I'm eating.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 10, 2018, 10:45:08 AM
Anyway, since this is a Manish thread, here's one his trademark fluff pieces. It makes Rosen sound like a really good person.

https://nydn.us/2qmC4KB (https://nydn.us/2qmC4KB)
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on April 10, 2018, 10:48:07 AM
You also lose some of the tissue when you cut it from the bone before cooking it, even grilling or pan-frying. Even if you cut it away cleanly, that's extra surface area of the meat to burn during cooking. And personally, I eat, and enjoy, the fat on a ribeye.

I always order bone-in ribeye whenever it's available where I'm eating.

Huh? How do you lose the fat? The only thing between the bone and meat is a layer of connective tissue.

If you cook a steak with the bone in then it doesn't cook evenly - the meat next to the bone is less cooked because the bone keeps it cooler. As a result, you can only get that meat to a good level of cooked by overcooking the rest of the steak.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 10, 2018, 10:58:18 AM
Huh? How do you lose the fat? The only thing between the bone and meat is a layer of connective tissue.

If you cook a steak with the bone in then it doesn't cook evenly - the meat next to the bone is less cooked because the bone keeps it cooler. As a result, you can only get that meat to a good level of cooked by overcooking the rest of the steak.

I didn't say you lost the fat at the bone. I said "tissue." It's like you purposely ignore the exact words I write.

I like the less cooked meat closer to the bone. No pun intended, but I rarely have eaten any steak that was "too undercooked" for me.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on April 10, 2018, 11:10:13 AM
I didn't say you lost the fat at the bone. I said "tissue." It's like you purposely ignore the exact words I write.

I like the less cooked meat closer to the bone. No pun intended, but I rarely have eaten any steak that was "too undercooked" for me.

I'm much the same - I'll generally have a filet blue - but a ribeye needs to be cooked right to be optimum. I would generally have a ribeye cooked medium rare, which would leave the meat next to the bone a little undercooked IMO.

Obviously it's a matter of personal taste, and it's not for me to criticise yours simply for being wrong.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 10, 2018, 11:21:37 AM
I'm much the same - I'll generally have a filet blue - but a ribeye needs to be cooked right to be optimum. I would generally have a ribeye cooked medium rare, which would leave the meat next to the bone a little undercooked IMO.

Obviously it's a matter of personal taste, and it's not for me to criticise yours simply for being wrong.

Hahahaha, well done. (Yeah, that was intended.)

I like that slight undercooked flavor at the end. I know, it's not the "right" way to eat it, but I enjoy the flavor.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Badger on April 10, 2018, 12:26:54 PM
Flat iron steaks are underrated.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 27, 2018, 06:13:16 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/jcunninghamnfl/status/1045058234111995904
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 01, 2018, 04:30:39 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1046856150501744640
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 01, 2018, 04:50:09 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1046856150501744640

Hahaha, I love this in the replies:

Quote from: @AlbertBreer
Is there anything we can do to inflame the situation?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on November 14, 2018, 12:47:16 PM
Manish is really pumping Bell's tires.


 


Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on November 14, 2018, 12:51:20 PM
Manish is really pumping Bell's tires.

Who else do you want to spend the money on?

Bell is an elite talent
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on November 14, 2018, 01:07:14 PM
Who else do you want to spend the money on?

Bell is an elite talent

Is he though? i think his oline is elite. James Conner proved that.  You know the HB position isn't a premium position. 

Is he going to sit out every season in which he doesn't think he's fairly paid?  the guy gave up 14.5 million to preserve his body.  Dude, you play football.

Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 14, 2018, 01:12:04 PM
the guy gave up 14.5 million to preserve his body.

This is what I don't understand. How is he ever going to make that money back no matter how good a deal he gets? This is his prime and he just wasted a full year of earning potential. I'm thinking maybe he's not that smart.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on November 14, 2018, 01:20:08 PM
This is what I don't understand. How is he ever going to make that money back no matter how good a deal he gets? This is his prime and he just wasted a full year of earning potential. I'm thinking maybe he's not that smart.

If we had a solid oline, i'd be all for signing him.  My fear is that the oline is ignored in the offseason, and we have this high priced HB in our backfield averaging 3 yards per carry in 2019.

It may not play out like that, but the Jets don't have a history of smart decision making....so it's hard to take a glass is half full approach to this scenario.  To be honest, i still can't believe we drafted Darnold.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: insanity on November 14, 2018, 01:24:44 PM
This is what I don't understand. How is he ever going to make that money back no matter how good a deal he gets? This is his prime and he just wasted a full year of earning potential. I'm thinking maybe he's not that smart.

He thinks he will get more than 14.5 mil guaranteed on his contract.  He'd rather sit out and lose out on that amount to protect himself from possibly getting injured on that deal and never getting a big payday.

Receivers are making 18 mil a year.  How can you blame him
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: reuben on November 14, 2018, 01:29:39 PM
Is he though? i think his oline is elite.
It's not either-or, necessarily.  But I'm mostly on the same page with you.  Bell's patient running style wouldn't be nearly as effective behind our line.  His receiving and blitz pickup abilities are excellent though, and those would be extremely helpful. 

As long as we don't run empty backfield sets all season.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 14, 2018, 01:47:54 PM
Multiple things can be true:

Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 14, 2018, 01:56:17 PM
Multiple things can be true:

  • Bell is an elite talent
  • Someone is going to overpay him this spring
  • He's smart for holding out and not getting hurt thereby losing a lot more than $14M
  • Behind the current Jets offensive line, he won't be nearly as productive as in Pittsburgh
  • He'd still be a fantastic weapon to add around Darnold

Good post
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 14, 2018, 02:07:26 PM
Good post

I accidentally post one every once in a while.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on November 14, 2018, 02:13:23 PM
It's not either-or, necessarily.  But I'm mostly on the same page with you.  Bell's patient running style wouldn't be nearly as effective behind our line.  His receiving and blitz pickup abilities are excellent though, and those would be extremely helpful. 

As long as we don't run empty backfield sets all season.

We're on the same page. 

I've been chatting with Heismanberg offline, and he mentioned the same tangibles you did in your post (receiving skills and blitz pickups), and those are legit selling features. But are they worth paying top dollar for when our oline is a pile of dogshit?

Bell is a luxury we certainly can afford fiscally.  But the supporting cast isn't there yet.

Are people still going to be pumped for signing him if he's averaging 2.5 yards behind our oline? 

One way to get around that is to fire your coach and bring in a better offensive scheme/system.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 14, 2018, 02:16:45 PM

One way to get around that is to fire your coach and bring in a better offensive scheme/system.

You don't like the 2 yard straight ahead handoff on first down 4 out of every 5 times?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on November 14, 2018, 02:17:38 PM
You don't like the 2 yard straight ahead handoff on first down 4 out of every 5 times?

You must, because you want our coaching staff to hang around for a decade before holding them accountable.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 14, 2018, 02:19:47 PM
You must, because you want our coaching staff to hang around for a decade before holding them accountable.

Not when they haven't proven anything. The last two got us to the playoffs.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 14, 2018, 02:20:18 PM
We're on the same page. 

I've been chatting with Heismanberg offline, and he mentioned the same tangibles you did in your post (receiving skills and blitz pickups), and those are legit selling features. But are they worth paying top dollar for when our oline is a pile of dogshit?

Bell is a luxury we certainly can afford fiscally.  But the supporting cast isn't there yet.

Are people still going to be pumped for signing him if he's averaging 2.5 yards behind our oline? 

One way to get around that is to fire your coach and bring in a better offensive scheme/system.

You can't underestimate blitz pickups--especially with the line that this team has. We all want to protect Darnold at all costs, right? Well, here's a cost.

Then you add him in as a potential target in the passing game, and his value to Darnold increases more.

Obviously, they need to spend on the offensive line wherever they can, but there won't be enough available players to spend it all. Bell is a great place to dump some excess cash.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on November 14, 2018, 02:25:30 PM


Obviously, they need to spend on the offensive line wherever they can, but there won't be enough available players to spend it all. Bell is a great place to dump some excess cash.

I still think we're putting the cart before the horse.  I won't be mad if we get Bell, i will be however if we don't improve the oline significantly and it ends up being a waste of money.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 14, 2018, 02:33:47 PM
I still think we're putting the cart before the horse.  I won't be mad if we get Bell, i will be however if we don't improve the oline significantly and it ends up being a waste of money.

The key thing is, you're only putting the cart before the horse if you sign Bell with money you could have spent on a quality offensive lineman.

I don't know who is going to be available, but I'd say there probably aren't going to be 2 very good guards and an elite left tackle and center available in free agency. At least a couple of replacements will have to come from the draft.

The real question is how they'd design the contract. I'd want to front-load a Bell deal with an out in 3 or 4 years.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on November 14, 2018, 02:37:31 PM
The key thing is, you're only putting the cart before the horse if you sign Bell with money you could have spent on a quality offensive lineman.

I don't know who is going to be available, but I'd say there probably aren't going to be 2 very good guards and an elite left tackle and center available in free agency. At least a couple of replacements will have to come from the draft.

The real question is how they'd design the contract. I'd want to front-load a Bell deal with an out in 3 or 4 years.

the other workaround is installing a better offensive scheme. 


I agree about the front loading.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on November 14, 2018, 02:52:30 PM
The key thing is, you're only putting the cart before the horse if you sign Bell with money you could have spent on a quality offensive lineman.

I don't know who is going to be available, but I'd say there probably aren't going to be 2 very good guards and an elite left tackle and center available in free agency. At least a couple of replacements will have to come from the draft.

The real question is how they'd design the contract. I'd want to front-load a Bell deal with an out in 3 or 4 years.

This free agent class for offensive lineman is dogshit. There isn't an elite left tackle in the bunch.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on November 14, 2018, 04:16:29 PM
This free agent class for offensive lineman is dogshit. There isn't an elite left tackle in the bunch.

They don't tend to hit FA unless they're old or injured. I firmly believe that you don't buy lines, you draft them. And I'm told this isn't a good class.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 14, 2018, 04:32:56 PM
the other workaround is installing a better offensive scheme. 


I agree about the front loading.

Scheme can only help you so much. The players have to play. Still, this team needs better design/playcalling. No arguments there.

This free agent class for offensive lineman is dogshit. There isn't an elite left tackle in the bunch.

Yeah, they're not acquiring an elite (or even very good) LT via free agency. My hope is that a guard or two will shake loose and they can sign them. Tackle and center need to be addressed in the draft.

That said, I think Beechum isn't that bad. He's not elite, but he's had some good enough games that he's an okay placeholder while trying to draft a replacement. I'm still not convinced with Shell, but others like him, so I'm willing to wait and see with him too.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Libero_2 on November 14, 2018, 04:43:23 PM
The key thing is, you're only putting the cart before the horse if you sign Bell with money you could have spent on a quality offensive lineman.

I don't know who is going to be available, but I'd say there probably aren't going to be 2 very good guards and an elite left tackle and center available in free agency. At least a couple of replacements will have to come from the draft.

The real question is how they'd design the contract. I'd want to front-load a Bell deal with an out in 3 or 4 years.

We need to do anything and everything that we can to help Sam Darnold. If there are no lineman worth paying, you do your best to surround him with playmakers. Do everything you can to provide the best options to him. Bell is undoubtedly an attractive option. It's not often elite talents in their prime at any position come available. If you bring him in, you have to understand it's an overpay and he will never produce to the level of his pay, let alone exceed it. But if you want to build a playoff team, you need big time playmakers, and Bell will be the most proven guy on the market, bar none.

I'm in the camp of "go get him." Get an elite pass rusher in the draft (finally) and then we spend our FA money on offensive pieces. Draft a few mid round OL with our 3s and 4. Hope to get lucky. 
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 14, 2018, 05:14:48 PM
We need to do anything and everything that we can to help Sam Darnold. If there are no lineman worth paying, you do your best to surround him with playmakers. Do everything you can to provide the best options to him. Bell is undoubtedly an attractive option. It's not often elite talents in their prime at any position come available. If you bring him in, you have to understand it's an overpay and he will never produce to the level of his pay, let alone exceed it. But if you want to build a playoff team, you need big time playmakers, and Bell will be the most proven guy on the market, bar none.

I'm in the camp of "go get him." Get an elite pass rusher in the draft (finally) and then we spend our FA money on offensive pieces. Draft a few mid round OL with our 3s and 4. Hope to get lucky. 

I agree with every word of this post.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 15, 2018, 02:16:06 AM
I really hope we wouldn't have to count on Bell running behind our current OLine next season.

With the cap space we'll have that should be an easy upgrade.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: insanity on November 15, 2018, 08:19:51 AM
I'd rather get tevin coleman and spend money elsewhere
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on November 15, 2018, 08:26:57 AM
I'd rather get tevin coleman and spend money elsewhere

I'd be fine with Mark Ingram too.


But we do need to start surrounding Darnold with better weapons like Bell.  Despite not having a functional oline.


Firing Bowles and hiring the "right" coach/staff to replace him... is the key cog in all of this.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on November 15, 2018, 08:51:10 AM
I'd rather get tevin coleman and spend money elsewhere

We have so much money though.

Some of you are acting like we’re backed up against the wall and have some sort of limited budget.

We can sign Bell and a lot of other good players as well.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Pope on November 15, 2018, 09:27:38 AM
And that’s how bad teams stay bad. Just because you have a lot of money doesn’t exercise the right to give out bad contracts. This is also based on me being convinced Bell will be washed up if he suits up for us or anyone else in 2019. I don’t think we see the Leveon Bell of old ever again.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on November 15, 2018, 10:47:39 AM
I think LeVeon still can be a stud, and given the lack of talent at positions of clear need (o-line, receiver, corner) I would have no problem with them extending a Godfather offer.

Come out of this free agency with a pass rusher (or two, freak it), and a back. Hope that we can solve the o-line issue in the first round.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Pope on November 15, 2018, 12:08:58 PM
I think LeVeon still can be a stud, and given the lack of talent at positions of clear need (o-line, receiver, corner) I would have no problem with them extending a Godfather offer.

Come out of this free agency with a pass rusher (or two, freak it), and a back. Hope that we can solve the o-line issue in the first round.
Physically maybe he has the ability, but I think he checked out mentally in August of this year, if not sooner.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: dcm1602 on November 15, 2018, 02:52:55 PM
I'd rather have an UDFA rb and spend every penny on the line instead of helping Bell win the lottery.

Dude is talented and still elite, but full rebuilding teams don't need to invest heavily in older backs.

Look at the Giants who have probably the best wr/te/rb tandem in the league. Yet that team is a freaking hot mess. Barkley didn't transform that offense, he's just an extremely talented player whose talents will be wasted on a trash team. Signing Bell would be akin to the Giants drafting Barkley a shortsighted waste
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 15, 2018, 03:36:24 PM
I'd rather have an UDFA rb and spend every penny on the line instead of helping Bell win the lottery.

Dude is talented and still elite, but full rebuilding teams don't need to invest heavily in older backs.

Look at the Giants who have probably the best wr/te/rb tandem in the league. Yet that team is a freaking hot mess. Barkley didn't transform that offense, he's just an extremely talented player whose talents will be wasted on a trash team. Signing Bell would be akin to the Giants drafting Barkley a shortsighted waste

"Older"? He's 26.

As for the Giants comparison, while both teams have shoddy offensive lines, one of them has a QB whose career is winding down so they took a gamble, the other has a brand new one who needs weapons.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on November 15, 2018, 03:46:18 PM
"Older"? He's 26.

And he's just had a year off. Running backs are measured in yards, not years.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Libero_2 on November 15, 2018, 04:15:37 PM
And that’s how bad teams stay bad. Just because you have a lot of money doesn’t exercise the right to give out bad contracts. This is also based on me being convinced Bell will be washed up if he suits up for us or anyone else in 2019. I don’t think we see the Leveon Bell of old ever again.

nobody knows what Bell will get. I'd bet he doesn't get what he really wants though.

My guess is Bell gets $25 million guaranteed, on a 5 year deal maxed at $70 million dollars. He sees 70% of that if he's still elite, and 35% of that just by existing.

If that's the deal he gets, we should be excited about him in Green. Especially since we seem to structure most deals as basically get out of jail free after 3 years.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Pope on November 15, 2018, 04:19:31 PM
nobody knows what Bell will get. I'd bet he doesn't get what he really wants though.

My guess is Bell gets $25 million guaranteed, on a 5 year deal maxed at $70 million dollars. He sees 70% of that if he's still elite, and 35% of that just by existing.

If that's the deal he gets, we should be excited about him in Green.
If you think Bell inks that deal you’re out of your freaking mind

He just left 15 million on the table in search of a new deal. Try doubling some of your numbers

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeVeonBell/status/959148361742864384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-1948548401734458177.ampproject.net%2F1811091519050%2Fframe.html
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Libero_2 on November 15, 2018, 06:57:41 PM
If you think Bell inks that deal you’re out of your freaking mind

He just left 15 million on the table in search of a new deal. Try doubling some of your numbers

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeVeonBell/status/959148361742864384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-1948548401734458177.ampproject.net%2F1811091519050%2Fframe.html

What team is crazy enough to give him 50 mill guaranteed 140 million total over 10 years?

Bell thinks he can get more... but I don’t think he’s going to.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Pope on November 15, 2018, 07:17:37 PM
What team is crazy enough to give him 50 mill guaranteed 140 million total over 10 years?

Bell thinks he can get more... but I don’t think he’s going to.
Maybe not 10 years and 140 total but I can see 50 million guaranteed for sure. Gurley got 4 years 60 with 45 guaranteed - that’s your starting point.

I’m gonna guess 5 years 80 million with 50+ GTD
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on November 15, 2018, 10:18:45 PM
I think you have to start with his market. Who's got the cap space and the need?

Colts: got the money but seem to be in on Mack, definitely a possibility
Bills: Shady is 30 but has another year on his contract, I can't see them cutting him and there's no way they'd have Bell as well
Browns: Chubb is their guy and they have a bunch of young players needing to get paid in the next couple of years
Raiders: Lynch is done, Martin might be their guy, who the freak knows with Chucky's circus
Texans: Miller is decent and not too expensive, Bell might be an option
49ers: Breida / Mostert / Morris are definitely not the answer
Cardinals: Bell would be the second best back on this roster
Bengals: Mixon and Bernard have things all locked up
Cowboys: Zeke is their guy
Broncos: running backs are chopped liver, definitely an option
Titans: no need to replace Henry
Packers: Aaron Jones is not elite
The rest: not enough cap space

So I'd say that based on that the market is the Jets, Niners, Broncos and Packers, with the Colts, Raiders and Texans possibilities.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: reuben on November 16, 2018, 10:10:00 AM
49ers: Breida / Mostert / Morris are definitely not the answer


Jerrick McKinnon is on IR.

Broncos: running backs are chopped liver, definitely an option


Phillip Lyndsay's been very good.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 16, 2018, 12:02:03 PM
^Royce Freeman has looked good too. Plus they have Case Keemun at 21 mill cap hit, or 10 mill dead cap if they cut him. Prob less likely to throw money at Bell until they have a long term solution in place
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on November 16, 2018, 03:48:50 PM
Jerrick McKinnon is on IR.

Phillip Lyndsay's been very good.

Completely forgot about McKinnon. Not convinced by Lyndsay, Denver have a way of making average backs look better than they are q.v. CJ Anderson. I think they'd have interest in an elite talent.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 21, 2018, 09:12:56 AM
(http://i66.tinypic.com/28tcbpd.jpg)

Manish... shut the freak up
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on November 21, 2018, 10:34:27 AM
Manish is a freaking maroon.  Why throw needless gas on the fire?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 21, 2018, 12:16:46 PM
Manish is a freaking maroon.  Why throw needless gas on the fire?

His job is to sell stories, not make Jets fans happy.

The Daily News is all about sensational headlines. After their layoffs, this actually became the core of Manish's job.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure, of all teams, the Pats need the least additional motivation to kick the Jets in the teeth.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on November 21, 2018, 12:45:51 PM
His job is to sell stories, not make Jets fans happy.

The Daily News is all about sensational headlines. After their layoffs, this actually became the core of Manish's job.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure, of all teams, the Pats need the least additional motivation to kick the Jets in the teeth.

Needing to sell papers doesn't make it any less retarded.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: insanity on November 21, 2018, 01:04:34 PM
Needing to sell papers doesn't make it any less retarded.

How can you possibly argue that
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 21, 2018, 01:32:14 PM

Anyway, I'm pretty sure, of all teams, the Pats need the least additional motivation to kick the Jets in the teeth.

They're also coming off a loss and a bye, so, great spot for us.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on November 21, 2018, 02:44:19 PM
They're also coming off a loss and a bye, so, great spot for us.

Gronk hasn't caught a TD since week 1.  When he catches 4 TDs this Sunday, i expect someone from the board to burn Manish's house to the ground.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on November 21, 2018, 06:30:04 PM
Gronk hasn't caught a TD since week 1.  When he catches 4 TDs this Sunday, i expect someone from the board to burn Manish's house to the ground.

Can't, I'll be busy robbing Gronkowski's house.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 22, 2018, 03:13:38 PM
And that’s how bad teams stay bad. Just because you have a lot of money doesn’t exercise the right to give out bad contracts. This is also based on me being convinced Bell will be washed up if he suits up for us or anyone else in 2019. I don’t think we see the Leveon Bell of old ever again.
Bad teams stay bad by drafting poorly and by having bad coaches and no quarterback. The jets hit the trifecta. Hopefully Sam answers the third question.

As a result of our bad drafting, we have nobody homegrown to really pay. That's why we have to pay free agents instead. It isnt ideal but it is the situation we are in.

Hoarding money does us little good either.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Badger on November 25, 2018, 04:43:31 PM
How can you possibly argue that
I'd argue nobody bought the paper because of that stupid story.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on December 06, 2018, 03:36:37 PM
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sports-maccagnan-bowles-jets-relationship-mehta-20181206-story.html
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 06, 2018, 03:57:51 PM
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sports-maccagnan-bowles-jets-relationship-mehta-20181206-story.html

Manish actually made a somewhat convincing argument there. I'd still fire Maccagnan, but there was definitely too much nonsense going on behind the scenes. 2 years to the playoffs or bust would be the absolute minimum expectation though.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 06, 2018, 04:06:44 PM
And where is JE?

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A recent study by overthecap.com revealed Maccagnan’s record in four drafts versus the rest of the league. Only 64.3 percent of players drafted by the Jets from 2015-2018 are still on an active NFL roster. The Titans are the only team with a lower percentage. The league average during that span is 76 percent. (On the other end of the spectrum, the Chiefs have a league-high 87 percent of their drafted players on an NFL roster).

A round-by-round breakdown reveals exactly how much Maccagnan has struggled in Rounds 2-5. Although all four of his first-round picks (including three in the Top 6 overall) are playing, the Jets have been far below the league average in each of the next four rounds.

Only 33 percent of Maccagnan’s second-rounders are on an NFL roster. The league average for second-rounders from 2015-18: 92 percent.

Only 50 percent of his third-rounders are on any active roster. The league average: 84 percent.

Only 50 percent of his fourth-rounders are on any active roster. The league average: 82 percent.

Only 50 percent of his fifth-rounders are on any active roster. The league average: 75 percent.

The Jets did, however, exceed the league averages with their sixth- and seventh-rounders.

Maccagnan hasn't even been close to average. His drafts have been atrocious from a team-building standpoint. Again, if you exclude his first-rounders, he's drafted very little of worth at all. Clearly, according to the article, it wasn't all his fault, but they're still his picks.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on December 06, 2018, 04:49:02 PM

Clearly, according to the article, it wasn't all his fault, but they're still his picks.


Were they all his picks?  Hack was, but the article suggests that some of the draft picks weren't guys he would have taken, but the coaches pushed for them.  He's still responsible for them being picked because he handed in the card on draft day, but his ability to identify good players may not be as bad as the record shows.  He might be really shitty at his job if this article is bullshit.  Who knows....
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on December 06, 2018, 08:13:09 PM
There's also the fact that a player's first couple of years in the NFL are instrumental to learning the skills needed to make a career in the big time. I find it very easy to believe that this coaching staff have fucked up at least a few players who could have been NFL vets if they'd been put on a different track.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 07, 2018, 02:17:51 PM
A list of prospective coaches that want to walk into this situation:

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Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 07, 2018, 02:43:30 PM
However much blame you want to split between Maccagnan and Bowles' staff, it doesn't change that Maccagnan has had final say on every roster decision. If coaches asked for players, it was up to Maccagnan to decide whether his information warranted the pick.

2 more years of Maccagnan is a long time. Because it's not just 2 years. If he fails, it's 2 years plus 3 for the next GM to come in and rebuild the roster. Again. That's the first 6 years of Darnold's career.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 07, 2018, 03:00:08 PM
There's also the fact that a player's first couple of years in the NFL are instrumental to learning the skills needed to make a career in the big time. I find it very easy to believe that this coaching staff have fucked up at least a few players who could have been NFL vets if they'd been put on a different track.

Idk, guys like Devin Smith, Mauldin, Hackenberg, Dylan Donohue, Ardarius Stewart, Chad Hansen aren’t getting on the field elsewhere with better coaches. They may have just been bad picks.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on December 07, 2018, 03:01:40 PM
Idk, guys like Devin Smith, Mauldin, Hackenberg, Dylan Donohue, Ardarius Stewart, Chad Hansen aren’t getting on the field elsewhere with better coaches. They may have just been bad picks.

We know Stewart was Morton’s pick
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 07, 2018, 03:04:03 PM
We know Stewart was Morton’s pick

All of the bad players were non-Macc picks
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on December 07, 2018, 04:15:27 PM
All of the bad players were non-Macc picks

If they don't fire him, that's what I'll assume just to be happy.  Until they fire him in 2 years, then I'll bash him.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on December 07, 2018, 06:47:35 PM
The problem is... if we don't fire him now, we can't fire him in two years unless we also fire his handpicked head coach... unless we want to find ourselves in another John Idzik situation...
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on December 07, 2018, 06:49:41 PM
I genuinely believe there's more risk in retaining Maccagnan at this point because if he proves that he really is this shitty at drafting players outside the top-6 then we really are going to be up excrement creek without a paddle in a couple years.

If we hire someone new, the greatest risk is that he doesn't exceed the low bar that's been set for him by the previous administration.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on December 07, 2018, 09:02:29 PM
The problem is... if we don't fire him now, we can't fire him in two years unless we also fire his handpicked head coach... unless we want to find ourselves in another John Idzik situation...
2 years is plenty of time for the new coach to show his own derriere the door.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 08, 2018, 07:09:05 AM
The problem is... if we don't fire him now, we can't fire him in two years unless we also fire his handpicked head coach... unless we want to find ourselves in another John Idzik situation...

This has been my main point the whole time. We’re much better off taking this opportunity to clean house than hoping Macc turns it around during Darnold’s developmental years.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 08, 2018, 07:09:56 AM
2 years is plenty of time for the new coach to show his own derriere the door.

Jets fans will be calling for his head by week 2 2019
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 08, 2018, 07:13:49 AM
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This sunday from Manish:

“Mike Maccagnan never wanted Darron Lee. Todd Bowles held him at gunpoint and forced the pick”
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 08, 2018, 08:44:18 AM

If the coach reported to the GM instead of the owner...like in a normal corporate structure, this excrement wouldn’t happen.

Bowels and Duff need to be lit on fire.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on December 08, 2018, 09:19:33 AM
If the coach reported to the GM instead of the owner...like in a normal corporate structure, this excrement wouldn’t happen.

Wait, do you think Bowles forced Maccagnan to draft Darron Lee?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on December 08, 2018, 09:20:57 AM
Wait, do you think Bowles forced Maccagnan to draft Darron Lee?
We'll, he did have a gun.  What choice did he have?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on December 08, 2018, 09:22:15 AM
If the coach reported to the GM instead of the owner...like in a normal corporate structure, this excrement wouldn’t happen.

Bowels and Duff need to be lit on fire.
The Jets should have a fan poll on their website to choose the next GM and coach.    That would be hilarious to see who we end up with.  Spin the wheel!
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 08, 2018, 10:11:19 AM
Wait, do you think Bowles forced Maccagnan to draft Darron Lee?
Anything is possible in this shitshow
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 10, 2018, 12:58:07 PM
This has been my main point the whole time. We’re much better off taking this opportunity to clean house than hoping Macc turns it around during Darnold’s developmental years.

Exactly. Me as well.

Even if you can the new regime in 2 years, you're sacrificing at least the first 4 years of Darnold's career: this season, the next two, then at least the first for the next new regime while they restructure.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 11, 2019, 01:10:17 PM
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Per a league source, the Jets are unified on their approach to the soon-to-be-former Steelers standout. The source strongly disputed the report from Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News suggesting that a schism exists within organization regarding Bell.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 12, 2019, 08:51:59 AM
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Jets fans should be excited about Pro Bowl LBs Anthony Barr & CJ Mosley... but NYJ is only in this position because of consistently poor drafting... by Maccagnan & others.

Consider 2014:
No. 9: Barr
No. 17: Mosley
No. 18: Jets take Calvin Pryor

Great reporting Manish!
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Libero_2 on March 12, 2019, 08:53:15 AM
Great reporting Manish!

So in other words likely two guys we wanted but couldn’t take because they were already drafted? Excellent reporting numbnuts
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on March 12, 2019, 08:53:51 AM
Great reporting Manish!

does he not realize how stupid he looks/sounds?

that makes zero fvcking sense
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 23, 2019, 03:21:45 PM
https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1109545239935676416

Awful. This guy does this all the time to sucker fans into paying attention to him, thinking he’s going to break news only to drop a nothingburger puff piece.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 23, 2019, 03:22:43 PM
“How the Jets landed Tom Compton”

by Manish Mehta
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 08, 2019, 10:19:30 PM
This guy has somehow gotten worse recently
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: reuben on April 08, 2019, 11:19:03 PM
This guy has somehow gotten worse recently

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Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN

Jets should extend this gesture to their fans: Free exchanges for all Sam Darnold & Chris Herndon jerseys bought last year.

Those were the 2 top-selling jerseys from NYJ’s 2018 rookie class.

Now they’re outdated.

Let those fans get the new Darnold & Herndon jerseys

I don't understand this mentality.  Won't it be more impressive to wear a Herndon jersey from his rookie year, before he "made it"?  I've got my Darnold from August and I'll proudly rock it for the next 30 years. 
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 09, 2019, 01:03:19 AM
I don't understand this mentality.  Won't it be more impressive to wear a Herndon jersey from his rookie year, before he "made it"?  I've got my Darnold from August and I'll proudly rock it for the next 30 years. 
I don't know if Herndon/Darnold are the best examples for the reason you just said, but in general, the fact that they give away these Jets jerseys to all these celebrities and then nickel and dime season ticket holders for everything is a joke. If anyone deserves free jerseys, it's season-ticket holders.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 09, 2019, 04:04:47 AM
Nobody “deserves” free jerseys. They gave the jerseys to celebrities and media members for marketing purposes. When these people share with their audiences on air or social media how cool they think the jersey looks, that’s great natural advertising for the Jets. Their only goal here (along with the entire jersey redesign campaign) is to sell more jerseys.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 09, 2019, 04:05:49 AM
I don't understand this mentality.  Won't it be more impressive to wear a Herndon jersey from his rookie year, before he "made it"?  I've got my Darnold from August and I'll proudly rock it for the next 30 years. 

I feel the same exact way.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 15, 2019, 12:51:11 PM
(http://i67.tinypic.com/dy3o2d.jpg)

Lmao
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on May 15, 2019, 12:52:53 PM
(http://i67.tinypic.com/dy3o2d.jpg)

Lmao



And before you say "yeah but Manish", he may be a rooster but he's right more often than most care to admit.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 16, 2019, 12:15:34 PM
Boomer Esiason just said Manish’s source was Brian Heimerdinger
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MexJetinBcn on May 16, 2019, 12:16:47 PM
He’s hilariously melting down on twitter as we speak 😂😂
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on May 16, 2019, 12:21:38 PM
Boomer Esiason just said Manish’s source was Brian Heimerdinger

Heimerdinger tried to make a move to push Maccagnan out and fucked himself
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on May 16, 2019, 12:22:58 PM
[insert random WWE wresting gif here]

/Manish
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: reuben on May 16, 2019, 02:12:13 PM
[insert random WWE wresting gif here]

/Manish

freaking guy can't resist low quality reaction gifs. 

"Today is Thursday."

(https://i.imgur.com/Z2JJchA.gif)
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 19, 2019, 10:13:30 PM
(http://i67.tinypic.com/3zb7a.png)

I am a literal hero for getting a shot of this before it was deleted
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 22, 2019, 03:00:36 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1131285356475756544

This dude is losing it
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Libero_2 on May 22, 2019, 03:18:26 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1131285356475756544

This dude is losing it

How is that context for Schragers relationship with Johnson, in terms of wanting him as a GM?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: insanity on May 22, 2019, 03:36:17 PM
How is that context for Schragers relationship with Johnson, in terms of wanting him as a GM?
He doesnt want him as GM.  That was already debunked
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on May 22, 2019, 04:31:38 PM
I don't think there was ever a suggestion about wanting Schrager as GM, the story was that Johnson would be consulting Schrager for his opinions on who would be suited to the role. Which is very possible, but completely uninteresting. "Man consults friend who knows a lot of people in the industry who might be good for vacancy he needs to fill" is not an unusual or in any way remarkable story, and I'm not sure which is worse - Manish reporting it like it's supposed to matter, or people desperately wanting him to be wrong about it just because it's Manish.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: guinness77 on May 22, 2019, 06:36:45 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1131285356475756544

This dude is losing it
Isn’t the first commenter a TGG guy?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 22, 2019, 06:39:12 PM
I don't think there was ever a suggestion about wanting Schrager as GM, the story was that Johnson would be consulting Schrager for his opinions on who would be suited to the role. Which is very possible, but completely uninteresting. "Man consults friend who knows a lot of people in the industry who might be good for vacancy he needs to fill" is not an unusual or in any way remarkable story, and I'm not sure which is worse - Manish reporting it like it's supposed to matter, or people desperately wanting him to be wrong about it just because it's Manish.

Manish has 3 tweets about this in the last day, so it’s probably more about him being an annoying, uniformed queynte, as usual.

Quote
@MMehtaNYDN:Jets won’t be hiring a search firm/consultant for GM search like they did for the previous two hires.

However, they’ve told people that TV personality & sideline reporter Peter Schrager could be contacted for assistance on prospective candidates. His name has come up internally

@MMehtaNYDN: Jets have discussed using TV personality Peter Schrager (a friend of Christopher Johnson) in General Manager search, per sources.


@MMehtaNYDN: Some context about Peter Schrager’s relationship with Jets CEO Christopher Johnson: Schrager was among the attendees at Johnson’s wedding last July.



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@BrianCoz: A Jets source said that while the team respects Peter Schrager, the only conversations the team has had with the broadcaster are about him working on their preseason telecasts.

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@Connor_J_Hughes: From my understanding, while the #Jets respect Peter Schrager, their discussions with him have only been about working the team’s preseason telecasts. Nothing else.

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@RVacchianoSNY: The Jets are talking with Fox Sports Peter Schrager about a role on their preseason telecasts, according to a team source. The Jets have a high respect for @Pschrags, but it does not appear that they are consulting him on their GM search.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 22, 2019, 08:59:09 PM
Is there a difference between consulting Charlie Casserly and Peter Schrager? Schrager sells more headlines and gets more retweets but that's about it.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 23, 2019, 10:00:34 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/rajpc1/status/1131566460160106498

Bahahahaha Hahahahah
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on May 23, 2019, 10:15:30 AM
Manish is a massive putz
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 24, 2019, 03:42:33 PM
(http://i63.tinypic.com/2dw7pmc.jpg)
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Coach K on May 24, 2019, 05:44:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alXYusJIrqc


Boomer takes a massive dump on Manish and expresses his massive chub for Gase
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: reuben on May 24, 2019, 07:27:56 PM
Honestly, if it weren't for Manish, I'd feel a lot worse about recent developments.  Watching this putz overreact is helping me stay cool.

Visiting tgg from time to time has a similar effect. 
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: loyaljetsfan on May 30, 2019, 09:45:54 AM
Manish at it again

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-turmoil-johnson-maccagnan-20190530-bqohcmaux5hh5ift6vk6ewkzkq-story.html?utm_content=buffercd744&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=mmehta+twitter

Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 30, 2019, 10:24:13 AM
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Adam Gase is running the show in Jets GM search. Just needs Chris Johnson’s final approval. Gase has called each candidate to give his pitch before formal interviews, per team source

My understanding: Gase’s top selling point has been Sam Darnold

Manish
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on May 30, 2019, 12:27:48 PM
Everyone loves to excrement all over Manish. Don't get me wrong, he stirs the pot like no one else in NY, but he definitely has inside sources he's cultivated and gets stories no one else does. Is he a dick about it? Sure, but the Daily News pays him for that because it's a sensationalist dishrag. That doesn't make his stories factually incorrect.

And this newest story is disturbing. Beyond the shitstirring of the article, this clandestine backstabby bullshit is bad for business.

The only positive, to me, is that it kind of exonerates Gase. All the beat writers were implying he was lying about Johnson calling him to tell him, not taking his advice, and this story corroborates that.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 30, 2019, 01:58:22 PM
Everyone loves to excrement all over Manish. Don't get me wrong, he stirs the pot like no one else in NY, but he definitely has inside sources he's cultivated and gets stories no one else does. Is he a dick about it? Sure, but the Daily News pays him for that because it's a sensationalist dishrag. That doesn't make his stories factually incorrect.

And this newest story is disturbing. Beyond the shitstirring of the article, this clandestine backstabby bullshit is bad for business.

The only positive, to me, is that it kind of exonerates Gase. All the beat writers were implying he was lying about Johnson calling him to tell him, not taking his advice, and this story corroborates that.

His source is gone now, that’s why he’s so butthurt
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on May 30, 2019, 02:14:17 PM
His source is gone now, that’s why he’s so butthurt

If his source is gone, where'd he get info about a clandestine meeting involving Johnson and people who are no longer with the organization that refused to comment on his story?

I'm not defending Manish's tendency to stir excrement up, other than to acknowledge it's likely in large part directed by an employer whose product is best used to house-train a pet, but he gets an awful lot right in terms of the facts in his stories.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on May 30, 2019, 02:42:15 PM
If his source is gone, where'd he get info about a clandestine meeting involving

Heimerdinger was his source.

He’s probably still running his mouth.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 30, 2019, 02:52:01 PM
If his source is gone, where'd he get info about a clandestine meeting involving Johnson and people who are no longer with the organization that refused to comment on his story?

I'm not defending Manish's tendency to stir excrement up, other than to acknowledge it's likely in large part directed by an employer whose product is best used to house-train a pet, but he gets an awful lot right in terms of the facts in his stories.

Probably from the same place that informed him Peter Schrager was at Chris Johnson’s wedding
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on May 30, 2019, 03:00:22 PM
From the story above:

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Maccagnan — who was fired on May 15 — declined comment when reached for this story. Johnson and Heimerdinger (also fired this month) couldn’t be reached for comment. The Jets declined multiple requests for comment.

Note the missing name, then ask yourself why he might be sharing this.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: IATA on May 30, 2019, 03:04:41 PM
I mean, none of that is really exceptionally surprising, it'd be more surprising if they didn't do this. Of course they're going to discuss in private their options and create a plan for after they make the move.

i dont really care at all. manish is bad
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on May 30, 2019, 03:11:54 PM
i dont really care at all. manish is bad

Manish is bad, both Johnsons are bad, Gase is bad, pretty much everyone involved in the running of the entire franchise is a freaking clown. Keep the players, empty the offices, start over again.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 30, 2019, 03:16:45 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/legerdouzable/status/1134148569303277568

Lmao
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on May 30, 2019, 03:18:21 PM
Heimerdinger was his source.

He’s probably still running his mouth.

That doesn't make sense if Manish is being honest that Heimerdinger specifically couldn't be reached for comment.

Probably from the same place that informed him Peter Schrager was at Chris Johnson’s wedding

Okay, but then who was that person? Because they apparently also knew that Johnson was having secret meetings while planning to shitcan everyone.

I mean, none of that is really exceptionally surprising, it'd be more surprising if they didn't do this. Of course they're going to discuss in private their options and create a plan for after they make the move.

i dont really care at all. manish is bad

It's not necessarily the closed-door planning, it's that he was plotting above and beyond what the group he was part of was plotting.

Firing Bowles was a no-brainer, but Johnson was literally discussing and planning it with people who he was also planning to fire.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on May 30, 2019, 03:21:29 PM
That doesn't make sense if Manish is being honest that Heimerdinger specifically couldn't be reached for comment.

Okay, but then who was that person? Because they apparently also knew that Johnson was having secret meetings while planning to shitcan everyone.

Like I said. Look at who was present, and whose comment or lack thereof went unmentioned.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on May 30, 2019, 03:30:30 PM
Like I said. Look at who was present, and whose comment or lack thereof went unmentioned.

Erik Burkhardt?

That's the only person who was supposedly at the meeting who isn't mentioned about declining/unavailability for comment. I don't really see what he'd have to gain from this at this point, especially since he declined comment back in December.

Also, the article has this line:

Quote
“(Johnson) was the driving force,” said one current Jets employee.

Manish still has inside sources.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on May 30, 2019, 03:34:41 PM
Erik Burkhardt?

That's the only person who was supposedly at the meeting who isn't mentioned about declining/unavailability for comment. I don't really see what he'd have to gain from this at this point, especially since he declined comment back in December.

Also, the article has this line:

Manish still has inside sources.

Burkhardt was representing Kingsbury, who didn't get the job. He presumably represents other coaches as well as players and maybe even front office staff. Dysfunctional basketcases are not good for agents, they're unpredictable and difficult to deal with. It makes a whole heap of sense that he'd want to expose a club for being a shambles; sunlight tends to have a cleansing effect.

There's no sense at all in Maccagnan or Heimerdinger giving that story to the press if they want to get another job in football.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on May 30, 2019, 03:42:27 PM
Burkhardt was representing Kingsbury, who didn't get the job. He presumably represents other coaches as well as players and maybe even front office staff. Dysfunctional basketcases are not good for agents, they're unpredictable and difficult to deal with. It makes a whole heap of sense that he'd want to expose a club for being a shambles; sunlight tends to have a cleansing effect.

There's no sense at all in Maccagnan or Heimerdinger giving that story to the press if they want to get another job in football.

There's no sense in Burkhardt doing it either. Who would believe he'd be a reliable person in the future to meet with behind closed doors?

That also ignores that it wasn't that Kingsbury didn't get the job, Kingsbury took the Cardinals job before the Jets even had a chance to make their offer.

And it still doesn't negate that someone currently inside the organization fed Manish the info that the meeting was definitely at Johnson's request.

I think Manish is guilty of some shitty behavior, but I also think he has cultivated a large pool of sources within the NYJ organization.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on May 30, 2019, 03:51:35 PM
There's no sense in Burkhardt doing it either. Who would believe he'd be a reliable person in the future to meet with behind closed doors?

That also ignores that it wasn't that Kingsbury didn't get the job, Kingsbury took the Cardinals job before the Jets even had a chance to make their offer.

And it still doesn't negate that someone currently inside the organization fed Manish the info that the meeting was definitely at Johnson's request.

I think Manish is guilty of some shitty behavior, but I also think he has cultivated a large pool of sources within the NYJ organization.

Burkhardt is the only person it does make sense for. Like I said, sunlight cleanses. And the finger of blame is bound to be pointed at the disgruntled guys who got fired.

Maccagnan and Heimerdinger have nothing to gain by sharing this and quite a bit to lose. Agents need teams to behave like well run organisations, it's really not in their interest to have a headcase like Gase calling the shots. Unhappy players make for more work and less money for an agent.

I've no doubt there are other people Manish talks to in the organisation, but this has clearly come from one of the four people present that night.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: reuben on May 30, 2019, 03:52:54 PM
What's the story here, the Jets front office were looking to replace Todd Bowles after the Miami game?  And that's, what... rude? 
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on May 30, 2019, 03:55:36 PM
Burkhardt is the only person it does make sense for. Like I said, sunlight cleanses. And the finger of blame is bound to be pointed at the disgruntled guys who got fired.

Maccagnan and Heimerdinger have nothing to gain by sharing this and quite a bit to lose. Agents need teams to behave like well run organisations, it's really not in their interest to have a headcase like Gase calling the shots. Unhappy players make for more work and less money for an agent.

I've no doubt there are other people Manish talks to in the organisation, but this has clearly come from one of the four people present that night.

I see your point.

Apart from the he-said-she-said, what a freaking shitstorm this organization is.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on May 30, 2019, 05:03:10 PM
#ManishButtholeGreen
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: dcm1602 on May 30, 2019, 06:09:56 PM
Manish

I mean if you're gonna build your franchise around your HC, at least build your franchise around your HC. Even though in this case it's fully unwarranted
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MoreCharacters on May 30, 2019, 06:40:08 PM
That piece is a trainwreck of an article and Manish should be embarrassed as a journalist.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MoreCharacters on May 30, 2019, 06:43:34 PM
It's cute how Manish is trying to make "STABBED IN THE BACK" a leitmotif

"Gase, how do you feel about the narrative that you stabbed Maccagnan in the back?"

"That's dumb and you're a nerd"

"Exclusive Look Inside the Jets Mess: A secret meeting, a reckless owner and a GM stabbed in the back"




we live in such a "if you say it loud enough it's true" culture
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on May 30, 2019, 06:57:06 PM
That piece is a trainwreck of an article and Manish should be embarrassed as a journalist.

Manish getting upset on Twitter is the best
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 30, 2019, 07:24:29 PM
I think Manish is guilty of some shitty behavior, but I also think he has cultivated a large pool of sources within the NYJ organization.

Manish literally had the asst GM and likely the GM as well as sources and got outscooped by freaking Tony Pauline

Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 04, 2019, 11:08:01 AM
Quote
Le’Veon Bell’s first carry: loss of 4 yards

Manish
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 15, 2019, 09:58:21 AM
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sam-darnold-adam-gase-dallas-cowboys-20191015-fvocs2q3j5ekxfav6vnifi6nii-story.html

This headline tho
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on October 15, 2019, 10:12:50 AM
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sam-darnold-adam-gase-dallas-cowboys-20191015-fvocs2q3j5ekxfav6vnifi6nii-story.html

This headline tho

I freaking love Manish
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on October 15, 2019, 10:21:19 AM
Manish is a queynte, but he isn't wrong.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 15, 2019, 10:27:31 AM
Not a crazy concept. Chad Pennington made Herm, Mangini and Sprano all look much smarter than they were. You can throw in Paul Hackett as well.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 28, 2019, 07:27:30 PM
https://twitter.com/espnbob/status/1188963116991832074?s=21
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on October 28, 2019, 07:32:53 PM
Don't freaking disparage Bob.  He's the best thing this franchise has.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Pope on October 28, 2019, 10:18:21 PM
Manisch replies with “No reason to get chippy”

What a hoo-ha. Go start a fuckin halal cart you jerkoff
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 29, 2019, 10:36:31 AM
Manish is a massive Twitter punk. Bob shoved his tweet right back up his derriere and Manish tried to pretend he wasn't just being a troll, calling out Bob when he doesn't have a single clue whether he's just pulling excrement out of his derriere or not.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 30, 2019, 10:45:57 AM
Manish is a massive Twitter punk. Bob shoved his tweet right back up his derriere and Manish tried to pretend he wasn't just being a troll, calling out Bob when he doesn't have a single clue whether he's just pulling excrement out of his derriere or not.

there is something undeniably and objectively wrong with manish's head. he made a baseless tweet about bob waffling on air about leo, and when bob responded that manish obviously does not listen to him on air, manish responded with 'no reason to get chippy, all i'm saying is i have the right to make baseless tweets'. he responded with that like he was fvcking saying something. 

he literally is a piece of excrement
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on October 30, 2019, 11:22:43 AM
Manish and his paper need clicks and attention. He isn't nuts, he just says things to get attention. It works.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: insanity on October 30, 2019, 11:28:40 AM
Manish and his paper need clicks and attention. He isn't nuts, he just says things to get attention. It works.

This. 

Manish has a job to do and he is willing to put his career success above normal moral/ethics and his credibility/name.

As a paper you love this type of employee
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 30, 2019, 11:37:40 AM
Quote
Some background: Adam Gase wanted to trade Marcus Maye upon getting the job before coming around on the player.

Manish tweet from yesterday that got lost in the shuffle
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Badger on October 30, 2019, 01:39:13 PM
Sources say Adam Gase tried to trade himself
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: loyaljetsfan on October 30, 2019, 02:02:50 PM
Sources say Adam Gase tried to trade himself

We should only be so lucky
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 05, 2019, 03:34:41 PM
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Jets CEO Chris Johnson believes criticisms from fans & media over Adam Gase hire are unfair, per sources.

Gase’s Offense Rankings:
Total: 32
Passing: 32
Rushing: 30
Scoring: 32
1st downs: 32
3rd down %: 32

Jets are 1-7
CJ is 10-30 in charge

Manish bringing that heat
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 10, 2019, 12:35:47 PM
Quote
Jets fans .... Never apologize for being passionate. Never apologize for wanting a good product and accountability. Never apologize for spending your money however you want to spend it.

Nobody should question that... especially someone like me, who watches games for free

Manish’s turn from heel to face the past week has been highly entertaining
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on November 10, 2019, 06:59:55 PM
Manish’s turn from heel to face the past week has been highly entertaining

Loving the wrestling terminology.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 24, 2019, 07:22:05 AM
“I’m rich as f--k” has become Gase’s go-to line since taking over 11 months ago, according to sources. Gase has repeatedly said it to anyone that mentions the avalanche of criticism this year. It has become his defense mechanism.

“He’s an insecure guy,” a Jets source told the News.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 24, 2019, 07:22:45 AM
Gase also has said behind closed doors that his “Give-A-Sh--t meter” is low when it comes to critics since he’s got enough money in the bank now (thanks to Christopher Johnson).
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 24, 2019, 07:23:19 AM
https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1209447211727294466?s=21

Give this man a Pulitzer, this is top notch reporting
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on December 24, 2019, 07:54:29 AM
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Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on December 24, 2019, 07:55:01 AM
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Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on December 24, 2019, 09:46:48 AM
...why should Gase give two fucks about this fanbase.

Have you seen TGG? Most of us are retards.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 24, 2019, 09:52:37 AM
...why should Gase give two fucks about this fanbase.

Have you seen TGG? Most of us are retards.

I tried to log in there a year or two ago just for kicks and I was locked out somehow. Oh well.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 24, 2019, 09:54:05 AM
Manish is one of the those beat writers that's horribly wrong or surprisingly right....there's no middle ground for him.


I'm starting to like him more than Costello though. freaking shill for the Jets FO.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on December 24, 2019, 09:55:01 AM
I tried to log in there a year or two ago just for kicks and I was locked out somehow. Oh well.

I want my head coach to care about certain things...the rank and file of this fanbase isn't on the list.

Bad organizations/general managers/coaches govern their actions on the basis of fan reaction.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 24, 2019, 10:11:24 AM
My take on the Manish article:

Adam Gase shouldn't concern himself with what is said by the media or fans. NY is a tough town to play/coach in, and takes thick skin. I have no issue with him not giving a excrement what people think.

I do have an issue if he's being the same guy behind closed doors that he supposedly was in Miami. This goes back to one of the core reasons I was against the hire. Like Rex, maybe he's a good coach, but he hasn't had time to learn his lesson before getting his next gig.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Libero_2 on December 24, 2019, 10:13:02 AM
I want my head coach to care about certain things...the rank and file of this fanbase isn't on the list.

Bad organizations/general managers/coaches govern their actions on the basis of fan reaction.

This I’ll agree with. I’m sure at some point Gase has said the phrase “I’m rich as freak” as we all would too.

Should he be worried about the fans criticizing him. No, he should be worrying about winning. This is click bait at its finest.

Doesn’t mean I want Gase around. But this isn’t a reason to even consider throwing on the pile of “maybe it can be evidence against him” pile
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on December 24, 2019, 10:13:30 AM
I want my head coach to care about certain things...the rank and file of this fanbase isn't on the list.

Bad organizations/general managers/coaches govern their actions on the basis of fan reaction.

Good organizations/general managers/don't have to, because they've earned the trust of the fan base.

The Jets fanbase is no more or less stupid than that of any other team. We've just been eating a much bigger excrement sandwich for much longer than most others. 31 other fanbases would be up in arms about Adam Gase being hired as their head coach and then producing the kind of garbage offense we've been watching all season, so don't let's pretend it's because we're somehow special.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on December 24, 2019, 10:19:00 AM
Good organizations/general managers/don't have to, because they've earned the trust of the fan base.

The Jets fanbase is no more or less stupid than that of any other team. We've just been eating a much bigger excrement sandwich for much longer than most others. 31 other fanbases would be up in arms about Adam Gase being hired as their head coach and then producing the kind of garbage offense we've been watching all season, so don't let's pretend it's because we're somehow special.

All I know is, they don't have to put up idiotic "quiet offense at work" graphics in Chicago. At LucasOil in Indy you can hear a pin drop when their offense is on the field.

Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Jumbo on December 24, 2019, 10:38:04 AM
This I’ll agree with. I’m sure at some point Gase has said the phrase “I’m rich as freak” as we all would too.



I guaran-freaking tee you that he said this like one time and Manish is blowing it up because Manish.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on December 24, 2019, 11:13:27 AM
Merry Christmas
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 24, 2019, 11:20:51 AM
I like how Manish trashes Gase nonstop and then gets mad if Gase isn't perfect answering questions. Gase probably SHOULD be pissed at Manish

From what I've seen, Gase has been good with the media. No clue what he is like behind closed doors though
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: insanity on December 24, 2019, 12:06:04 PM
I guaran-freaking tee you that he said this like one time and Manish is blowing it up because Manish.
This ^

Gase is an poopchute be he isnt a 100% dick.
This sounds like something he said in jest
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 28, 2019, 12:44:52 PM
Quote
Jets Rankings:
Adam Gase’s Offense:
DVOA: 32
Total: 32
Run: 31
Pass: 30

Bottom 3 in NFL: total yards rushing yards, passing yards, yards per play, 3rd-down efficiency, 1st downs

Gregg Williams’ Defense:
DVOA: 11
Total: 7
Run: 2
Pass: 15
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 28, 2019, 12:49:30 PM
^ Luke Falk really fucked up our offense
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 28, 2019, 10:44:51 PM
https://twitter.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1211110318128148480?s=21

Lmaooooo
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 28, 2019, 10:45:48 PM
Everyone please do their duty and tag Manish
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Badger on December 29, 2019, 03:24:23 PM
This ^

Gase is an poopchute be he isnt a 100% dick.
This sounds like something he said in jest
I always thought being an poopchute is worse than being a dick.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: insanity on December 29, 2019, 03:26:45 PM
Let's start a go fund me to help manish to get gase fired
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Badger on December 29, 2019, 03:30:01 PM
Let's start a go fund me to help manish to get gase fired
I'll start researching billboard space near the NYDN offices.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on December 30, 2019, 09:46:06 AM
Adam Gase on whether he has Twitter account: “No.... Do you?”

Manish is such a whiny bitch.  That was the last question of the presser.  Of all the questions you could ask an embattled head coach, that's the petty question you ask.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on December 30, 2019, 09:51:02 AM
Lolol.  The rest of the beat hates him.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191230/febaebc2ec0b7f0480f0bc7d4e713994.jpg)
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 30, 2019, 10:54:26 AM
Lolol.  The rest of the beat hates him.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191230/febaebc2ec0b7f0480f0bc7d4e713994.jpg)

I think Gase's short answer about Bell had more to do with who was asking the question than his feelings on Bell. #nyj


You don’t say
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 30, 2019, 01:55:34 PM
Quote
Matt Rhule is in serious play for the Giants job.

Jets loved Matt Rhule during their coaching search last year. However, the sticking point was offensive coordinator. Rhule wanted then-Texans assistant Sean Ryan, I’m told. NYJ did not approve.

Ryan is the Lions QBs coach now.

Interesting
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 30, 2019, 02:06:23 PM
Interesting

Instead they love Dowell Loggains?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 30, 2019, 02:08:13 PM
https://twitter.com/jasonrmcintyre/status/1211737337383641088?s=21
“ This is about a coach being sick of one reporter (@MMehtaNYDN, who i know personally and like) who is driving a get-him-out agenda.

Jets would be STUPID to dump a talented player like @LeVeonBell. Figure out a way to use him + bolster OL”


Manish’s now deleted tweet in response:

Agenda: Hold the head coach accountable for his decisions.

And I like you to, J-Mac.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 30, 2019, 02:13:52 PM
Is Manish operating with an agenda? Sure. Doesn't make him wrong.

Also, you know who else seemingly really likes Manish? Jamal Adams.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 30, 2019, 03:14:08 PM
It cracks me up how every other beat writer hates Manish
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on December 30, 2019, 03:18:39 PM
It cracks me up how every other beat writer hates Manish
He's out there wasting time with TMZ questions.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Jumbo on December 30, 2019, 08:21:53 PM
Since it probably goes better here, update on @WyattV18:

It was Manish. https://twitter.com/incarceratedbob/status/1211824820784189440

Shocking. Who could have seen that coming.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 30, 2019, 08:24:19 PM
I doubt it's actually Manish. But it would be the best moment in the history of JetsTwitter if this is actually him.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Jumbo on December 30, 2019, 08:37:06 PM
I doubt it's actually Manish. But it would be the best moment in the history of JetsTwitter if this is actually him.

Could be the ol' double setup
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on December 30, 2019, 09:06:02 PM
Would be funny if it is Gase's burner and he's freaking with Manish.  When Manish asked him if he had a burner acct, he said "no, do you?" Maybe that was a sign.

Sad that this is more interesting than the team.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 31, 2019, 07:44:42 AM
For the most part, I like Manish. But if he really did set up the whole "burner account" thing, that's just unbelievably classless and unprofessional.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on December 31, 2019, 08:24:25 AM
For the most part, I like Manish. But if he really did set up the whole "burner account" thing, that's just unbelievably classless and unprofessional.

manish is as vindictive as a hormonal teen chick, he would totally do something like this to try and push his agenda vs gase
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: mj2sexay on December 31, 2019, 08:33:06 AM
Manish "Jim Accosta" Mehta.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 31, 2019, 08:55:50 AM
manish is as vindictive as a hormonal teen chick, he would totally do something like this to try and push his agenda vs gase

Vindictive is fine. Pushing an agenda is fine (not to mention I agree with the agenda).

Literally fabricating a story by creating a fake entity that you then report on destroys journalistic integrity.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 31, 2019, 09:42:54 AM
Vindictive is fine. Pushing an agenda is fine (not to mention I agree with the agenda).

Literally fabricating a story by creating a fake entity that you then report on destroys journalistic integrity.

It's so awful that it's hilarious.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 31, 2019, 10:29:55 AM
Some weirdo on JetsTwitter traced the Wyatt account to one of the PR people working in the Jets FO.  Take it with a grain of salt.

But it sounds like it wasn't Manish.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 31, 2019, 10:49:24 AM
Some weirdo on JetsTwitter traced the Wyatt account to one of the PR people working in the Jets FO.  Take it with a grain of salt.

But it sounds like it wasn't Manish.

These internet sleuths have been convinced at one point that the burner was Gase, Manish, and now a Jets PR. The most likely outcome was always that this was a rando troll on the internet looking to stir up excrement
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 31, 2019, 10:55:22 AM
These internet sleuths have been convinced at one point that the burner was Gase, Manish, and now a Jets PR. The most likely outcome was always that this was a rando troll on the internet looking to stir up excrement

I'm hoping it turns out to be junc
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on December 31, 2019, 11:05:28 AM
I hope it's Justin Gray
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on December 31, 2019, 11:14:13 AM
I hope it's Justin Gray

If you could somehow schedule a fist fight with him at our tailgate...i'll make a point to be in attendance.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 31, 2019, 11:19:17 AM
I hope someday we have better things to worry about with the Jets in January.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 31, 2019, 11:43:57 AM
I'm hoping it turns out to be junc

That's as likely as any of the scenarios we've heard so far.

I hope someday we have better things to worry about with the Jets in January.

#KeepRex
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 10, 2020, 02:07:32 PM
https://twitter.com/teamthirsttrap/status/1215676351107100672?s=21

Manish bodied for being wrong and a liar for the millionth time, you love to see it.

His original tweet has been deleted.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on January 10, 2020, 02:13:34 PM
https://twitter.com/teamthirsttrap/status/1215676351107100672?s=21

Manish bodied for being wrong and a liar for the millionth time, you love to see it.

His original tweet has been deleted.

Without seeing what was deleted I can't grasp the context.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on January 10, 2020, 02:16:06 PM
Without seeing what was deleted I can't grasp the context.
I think he said he has never called for a coach to be fired, ever.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on January 10, 2020, 02:19:26 PM
I think he said he has never called for a coach to be fired, ever.

Thanks, that makes sense.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 10, 2020, 02:21:11 PM
Without seeing what was deleted I can't grasp the context.

His deleted tweet is still on my feed because it hasn’t refreshed.

“ Never have called for any Jets coach to be fired. Literally never. No coach. Ever.”
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Italian Seafood on January 10, 2020, 02:36:24 PM
His deleted tweet is still on my feed because it hasn’t refreshed.

“ Never have called for any Jets coach to be fired. Literally never. No coach. Ever.”

Haha busted. Thanks.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 21, 2020, 10:38:56 AM
https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1241162857431076867?s=21
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: guinness77 on March 21, 2020, 11:03:04 AM
https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1241162857431076867?s=21
Hell, we should have traded Qvale for Nuk.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on March 21, 2020, 11:06:00 AM
https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1241162857431076867?s=21

Until I read the tweet he was quoting I had no idea who he was talking about, as it could have applied to any of them.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 13, 2020, 10:31:36 AM
https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1249714290329878531?s=21
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: loyaljetsfan on April 17, 2020, 01:51:38 PM
Quote
https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/1251213666462162945

Sources: Jets discussing freeing up money to sign former Patriots & Titans DB Logan Ryan.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on April 17, 2020, 02:07:24 PM
Free up money? They've got $19M in cap space plus another $11M freeing up when Johnson comes off the books, so $30M without needing to cut anyone. How much do they think they're going to need to pay him? He was only making $10M per with Tennessee.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: dcm1602 on April 17, 2020, 02:26:47 PM
Free up money? They've got $19M in cap space plus another $11M freeing up when Johnson comes off the books, so $30M without needing to cut anyone. How much do they think they're going to need to pay him? He was only making $10M per with Tennessee.

I mean he did say this in the link provided

Quote
Logic dictates Ryan would get a one-year deal on the open market at this point, which would require the Jets, who have approximately $10 million in remaining salary cap space, to make some adjustments to land the 29-year-old. Cap space, however, is hardly the biggest obstacle given that the Jets will free up $11 million after June 1 thanks to Trumaine Johnson’s designation. (Much of that space will be taken up by rookie signings.)
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on May 04, 2020, 06:26:02 AM
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-20200504-la45eyhzpbac5osqruticcektm-story.html

Jets looking to trade Maye
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Libero_2 on May 04, 2020, 07:09:30 AM
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-20200504-la45eyhzpbac5osqruticcektm-story.html

Jets looking to trade Maye

are we? I mean it appears we had discussions at the deadline last year (which we did) and we just drafted Davis. Manish is citing past discussions and that Gase wanted to trade him last year when he got in the door.

But I can’t imagine why we would move Maye right now unless someone offers us far more than Maye is worth. Davis is unlikely to be ready to take over right now, and Maye is a damn good player for us. If we get into the year, approaching the deadline and Davis has proven he’s ready to roll and we get strong offers for Maye? Then sure. Because I completely get why paying Maye and Adams isn’t the best financial plan. Doesn’t mean I want to do it though
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on May 04, 2020, 07:11:52 AM
are we? I mean it appears we had discussions at the deadline last year (which we did) and we just drafted Davis. Manish is citing past discussions and that Gase wanted to trade him last year when he got in the door.

But I can’t imagine why we would move Maye right now unless someone offers us far more than Maye is worth. Davis is unlikely to be ready to take over right now, and Maye is a damn good player for us. If we get into the year, approaching the deadline and Davis has proven he’s ready to roll and we get strong offers for Maye? Then sure. Because I completely get why paying Maye and Adams isn’t the best financial plan. Doesn’t mean I want to do it though

I think Maye is a FA next offseason.  They might just be planting the trade seeds a year in advance.  I guess it'll depend on how high they're on Ashtyn Davis, and how effective he is in Geg's scheme.


EDIT:  Maye also had a pretty good year last year. Not just on the stat sheet, but staying healthy in general.  Big Doug might want to maximize the return while Maye's stock is in the black....a strong gust of wind could put Maye on the IR at any moment.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on May 04, 2020, 07:52:29 AM
Manish always tries to make the organization look stupid.

"(because he's a very good player)"

Maye is good, but he's made of glass.  i'd prefer to keep him through 2020 and just get a potential comp pick for him, but if we can move him for a starter at another spot or a draft pick now, you'd have to consider it.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: dcm1602 on May 04, 2020, 10:10:06 AM
The franchise tag is always an option for Maye

He's a safety and the number isn't outrageously unreasonable.

If you can't get good value for him now, try to extend him and if you can't tag and trade has to be worth considering. If he's healthy and plays at a  quality level I don't think it would be hard to tag and trade for a 2nd.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on May 04, 2020, 10:20:55 AM
The franchise tag is always an option for Maye

He's a safety and the number isn't outrageously unreasonable.

Why would we pay Marcus Maye $11M? 

I don't even care if he plays an entire season again.  His health will always be a question mark. 
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on May 04, 2020, 10:35:26 AM
There is value in the fact that he was healthy last year and his value might be as high as it can be now.  Especially if he's part of a package that gets us a decent pass rusher.  That'll never happen, but a guy can dream.

On the other hand, he's a solid starter and the guy that .... possibly... could be his replacement is a rookie and won't have a normal first offseason to get up to speed.  It makes sense to keep him and let him start this year, not getting too caught up in trade value.  Not like we are getting a 1st or 2nd for him anyway unless he has an outstanding, healthy season.  Certainly not right now. 

I don't know if I like the idea of starting the season with a different FS right now. Gregggggg could probably figure it out but why create that problem?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: dcm1602 on May 04, 2020, 10:41:56 AM
Why would we pay Marcus Maye $11M? 

I don't even care if he plays an entire season again.  His health will always be a question mark. 

Presumably we would pay him 11 million because we think he's worth it.

The same reason why some people would argue we should make Jamal the highest paid safety ever.

Now I'd rather not be spending close to 30 million a year on safeties so I'd hope we could trade him
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on May 04, 2020, 11:06:16 AM
The same reason why some people would argue we should make Jamal the highest paid safety ever.

Jamal Adams is an All-Pro safety that hasn't missed any time. 
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: dcm1602 on May 04, 2020, 11:46:30 AM
Jamal Adams is an All-Pro safety that hasn't missed any time. 

Which is why he would be making close to 50% more per year than Maye with a freak ton of guaranteed money
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 04, 2020, 12:01:10 PM
Jamal Adams is an All-Pro safety that hasn't missed any time. 

Please stop feeding the cap troll.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on May 04, 2020, 12:15:33 PM
Where did this thread take a turn? Oh yes here:


The franchise tag is always an option for Maye

He's a safety and the number isn't outrageously unreasonable.

If you can't get good value for him now, try to extend him and if you can't tag and trade has to be worth considering. If he's healthy and plays at a  quality level I don't think it would be hard to tag and trade for a 2nd.

Presumably we would pay him 11 million because we think he's worth it.

The same reason why some people would argue we should make Jamal the highest paid safety ever.

Now I'd rather not be spending close to 30 million a year on safeties so I'd hope we could trade him

In what world is that an option?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: dcm1602 on May 04, 2020, 12:20:45 PM
Where did this thread take a turn? Oh yes here:


In what world is that an option?

Is what part an option? Franchise tagging Maye and trying to trade him? Unless there's another player who is a obvious franchise tag candidate I think tagging Maye is reasonable, assuming he stays healthy and plays at a high level yet again.

Having him play out on the tag wouldn't be ideal, but if that's the worse case scenario im okay with it.

And the 11 million figure was from Heismanberg presumably referring to the transition tag
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Miamipuck on May 04, 2020, 12:25:16 PM
Is what part an option? Franchise tagging Maye and trying to trade him? Unless there's another player who is a obvious franchise tag candidate I think tagging Maye is reasonable, assuming he stays healthy and plays at a high level yet again.

Having him play out on the tag wouldn't be ideal, but if that's the worse case scenario im okay with it.

And the 11 million figure was from Heismanberg presumably referring to the transition tag
DCM mode engaged:


The Jets just drafted Maye's replacement but freak it lets tag Maye........
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on May 04, 2020, 12:50:02 PM
No one's paying Marcus Maye to play under the franchise tag, let alone giving up draft capital to acquire his services...
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: dcm1602 on May 04, 2020, 12:52:25 PM
DCM mode engaged:


The Jets just drafted Maye's replacement but freak it lets tag Maye........

*Tag and trade
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on May 04, 2020, 12:55:18 PM
Unless someone blows us away with an offer, our decision whether to trade Maye should weigh entirely on our confidence in Davis's ability to start immediately.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Pope on May 04, 2020, 05:44:10 PM
Maye is likely gonna net us a third rounder at best. Would prefer to just keep him and see what kind of comp pick we get for him in the future
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 04, 2020, 07:17:34 PM
Maye is likely gonna net us a third rounder at best. Would prefer to just keep him and see what kind of comp pick we get for him in the future
Probably wouldn't get any comp pick because usually we need to sign free agents to fill holes based on our awful recent drafting. Then again, by 2022, hopefully it is less of an issue.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Libero_2 on May 04, 2020, 07:26:18 PM
Probably wouldn't get any comp pick because usually we need to sign free agents to fill holes based on our awful recent drafting. Then again, by 2022, hopefully it is less of an issue.

I’m really curious to see how Douglas plays next year. We have several people in the last year of their deals. Which means 2 things, lots of opportunity to lose players, and lots of holes we need to fill. Next year we are likely to be big players in FA again (at least in terms of number of guys signed) as we will have lots of cash to burn.

The safest play, if we want a pick for Maye is to trade him by the deadline. Similar to this year we will have a lot of guys who could sign elsewhere, but given we are going to need to sign lots of replacements for them, we likely won’t be looking at substantial comp picks
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 04, 2020, 08:54:25 PM
PFT says Manish full of excrement.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 05, 2020, 08:49:47 AM
The Vikings tagged Anthony Harris, a top safety, have been openly shopping him, and can’t find a trade partner. But yes, let’s tag Maye and then try and trade him.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on May 05, 2020, 08:50:16 AM
The Vikings tagged Anthony Harris, a top safety, have been openly shopping him, and can’t find a trade partner. But yes, let’s tag Maye and then try and trade him.
Extend him? Take him out for an Arby's Beef n' Cheddar?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: dcm1602 on May 05, 2020, 09:33:11 AM
The Vikings tagged Anthony Harris, a top safety, have been openly shopping him, and can’t find a trade partner. But yes, let’s tag Maye and then try and trade him.

Not particularly familiar with the player but supposedly he is a career backup/UDFA/special tewmer who had one good year and could be chasing 14+ million a year

Regardless this is all a moot argument. Unless Maye stays healthy and plays at a high level we wouldn't be franchise tagging him. And if he does both, it would be silly to not seriously consider using the tag
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on May 05, 2020, 09:35:21 AM
Not particularly familiar with the player

Just stop here then
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 08, 2020, 02:19:14 PM
https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1258823454046007297?s=21

Shots fired at Brian Costello
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: guinness77 on May 12, 2020, 12:09:41 PM
https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiiQFodHRwczovL3d3dy5ueWRhaWx5bmV3cy5jb20vc3BvcnRzL2Zvb3RiYWxsL2pldHMvbnktbGV2ZW9uLWJlbGwtZnJhbmstZ29yZS1hZGFtLWdhc2UtdHJhZGUtMjAyMDA1MTIteHJsZ3BpeG1hemQzemx1djQ0em01b2Rhd2ktc3RvcnkuaHRtbNIBmAFodHRwczovL3d3dy5ueWRhaWx5bmV3cy5jb20vc3BvcnRzL2Zvb3RiYWxsL2pldHMvbnktbGV2ZW9uLWJlbGwtZnJhbmstZ29yZS1hZGFtLWdhc2UtdHJhZGUtMjAyMDA1MTIteHJsZ3BpeG1hemQzemx1djQ0em01b2Rhd2ktc3RvcnkuaHRtbD9vdXRwdXRUeXBlPWFtcA?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on May 12, 2020, 12:11:02 PM
https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiiQFodHRwczovL3d3dy5ueWRhaWx5bmV3cy5jb20vc3BvcnRzL2Zvb3RiYWxsL2pldHMvbnktbGV2ZW9uLWJlbGwtZnJhbmstZ29yZS1hZGFtLWdhc2UtdHJhZGUtMjAyMDA1MTIteHJsZ3BpeG1hemQzemx1djQ0em01b2Rhd2ktc3RvcnkuaHRtbNIBmAFodHRwczovL3d3dy5ueWRhaWx5bmV3cy5jb20vc3BvcnRzL2Zvb3RiYWxsL2pldHMvbnktbGV2ZW9uLWJlbGwtZnJhbmstZ29yZS1hZGFtLWdhc2UtdHJhZGUtMjAyMDA1MTIteHJsZ3BpeG1hemQzemx1djQ0em01b2Rhd2ktc3RvcnkuaHRtbD9vdXRwdXRUeXBlPWFtcA?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

A joke of an article
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: guinness77 on May 12, 2020, 12:12:14 PM
A joke of an article
Exactly why it’s in this thread. I’m surprised no one posted it already.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on May 12, 2020, 12:15:26 PM
Bell must be really disrespected by Frank Gore's $1M contract with $200K in guarantees
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 12, 2020, 01:41:09 PM
This freaking guy...
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 05, 2020, 12:32:06 PM
Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN
·
36m
Sources: Jets have talked to former Bears Pro Bowl OL Kyle Long about coming out of retirement.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 05, 2020, 12:32:48 PM
Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN
·
36m
Sources: Jets have talked to former Bears Pro Bowl OL Kyle Long about coming out of retirement.

Interesting. Don't love the last time we tried that but it's not like it would be a huge risk.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on June 05, 2020, 12:43:17 PM
Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN
·
36m
Sources: Jets have talked to former Bears Pro Bowl OL Kyle Long about coming out of retirement.

Let’s go!

Chris Long loves Joe Douglas
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on June 05, 2020, 12:53:37 PM
I'm sure he's talented and all, but he's a walking advertisement for injured reserve.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on June 05, 2020, 12:55:06 PM
Interesting. Don't love the last time we tried that but it's not like it would be a huge risk.

Long is also quite a bit younger than Kalil was when we talked him into coming back.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 05, 2020, 12:59:52 PM
Long is also quite a bit younger than Kalil was when we talked him into coming back.

He's younger but like Bo said he's also worse in terms of injuries, at least as far as I can remember. It's low risk but I don't expect it would do much.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on June 05, 2020, 01:01:44 PM
I’d take Long over Winters
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on June 05, 2020, 01:10:49 PM
Rick Tarsitano:  I asked Kyle Long if there was any truth to the Jets talk rumors. He said, "No. None."

Lol.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 05, 2020, 01:11:54 PM
I'm not opposed to signing Long, but these guys retire for a reason. "their bodies breaking down" is usually at the top of their list of reasons.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on June 05, 2020, 01:21:18 PM
Rick Tarsitano:  I asked Kyle Long if there was any truth to the Jets talk rumors. He said, "No. None."

Lol.


Manish is getting crapped on this offseason. 

First the Logan Ryan signing and now this. 

You hate to see it.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 05, 2020, 01:41:26 PM
Manish is getting crapped on this offseason. 

First the Logan Ryan signing and now this. 

You hate to see it.

The Athletic laid off 46 journalists today...i wonder if yer boi Connor Hughes took a hit.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on June 05, 2020, 01:45:42 PM
The Athletic laid off 46 journalists today...i wonder if yer boi Connor Hughes took a hit.

Looks like mostly basketball and CFB writers, although the Falcons and Cardinals writers got gunned as well:

https://awfulannouncing.com/athletic/the-athletic-lays-off-46-people.html

FWIW, I don't think it's 46 writers, it's 46 staff. Obviously some of them will be writers, but not all of them.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 05, 2020, 01:46:49 PM
Looks like mostly basketball and CFB writers, although the Falcons and Cardinals writers got gunned as well:

https://awfulannouncing.com/athletic/the-athletic-lays-off-46-people.html

my renewal date with them is at the beginning of July...i may opt out.  No use paying for a subscription with no sports.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on June 05, 2020, 02:05:54 PM
Adam Hoge:  Kyle Long is down to 265 pounds and has spent months telling everyone how much he’s enjoying retirement. He’s not going to the Jets. Carry on.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: AlioTheFool on June 05, 2020, 02:22:27 PM
It's times like this that I wonder if someone in the front office "leaks" "information" to a select group of people to see who will run to one of the beat guys--especially Manish--with the story.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Libero_2 on June 05, 2020, 02:35:29 PM
Unless he was coming here for nothing, we would be better off with Winters or Warford
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on June 05, 2020, 02:52:43 PM
It's times like this that I wonder if someone in the front office "leaks" "information" to a select group of people to see who will run to one of the beat guys--especially Manish--with the story.
They did that where I work to try to figure out who was leaking info to the media. It worked.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Badger on June 05, 2020, 05:16:19 PM
They did that where I work to try to figure out who was leaking info to the media. It worked.
Tyrion Lannister szn
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on June 05, 2020, 05:25:15 PM
They did that where I work to try to figure out who was leaking info to the media. It worked.

Tell the whole story or GTFO
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on June 05, 2020, 05:30:11 PM
Tell the whole story or GTFO
https://nypost.com/2019/02/03/rising-espn-star-adnan-virk-fired-escorted-out-in-leak-investigation/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/03/26/leak-investigation-cost-adnan-virk-his-espn-career-now-hes-starting-over/
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on June 05, 2020, 06:19:59 PM
https://nypost.com/2019/02/03/rising-espn-star-adnan-virk-fired-escorted-out-in-leak-investigation/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/03/26/leak-investigation-cost-adnan-virk-his-espn-career-now-hes-starting-over/

damn you work at espn?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on June 05, 2020, 06:22:19 PM
damn you work at espn?
He's in the ESPN gay porn division.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Derek Smalls on June 05, 2020, 06:42:41 PM
He's in the ESPN gay porn division.
It's hidden deep behind the pay walls.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 06, 2020, 09:51:20 AM
https://nypost.com/2019/02/03/rising-espn-star-adnan-virk-fired-escorted-out-in-leak-investigation/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/03/26/leak-investigation-cost-adnan-virk-his-espn-career-now-hes-starting-over/

Haha I used to go to the same gym as this guy by Central. I could bench 2x as much as him, obviously
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 06, 2020, 09:54:20 AM
Haha I used to go to the same gym as this guy by Central. I could bench 2x as much as him, obviously
The 6 in Sixfeetdeep is from 624.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: IATA on June 06, 2020, 09:38:43 PM
my renewal date with them is at the beginning of July...i may opt out.  No use paying for a subscription with no sports.

i actually just signed up because i got 6 months free. figured thered be something by then, and i can read fluff pieces by beat writers until then.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on June 10, 2020, 03:12:46 PM
Kyle Long is gaining weight...

Went from 255 up to 274 and said on Twitter he wants to be at 280 soon.

Why put on weight if you're not coming back?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: bojanglesman on June 10, 2020, 03:22:13 PM
Kyle Long is gaining weight...

Went from 255 up to 274 and said on Twitter he wants to be at 280 soon.

Why put on weight if you're not coming back?
Makes sense, but probably not with Jets.  No one said he wasn't coming back, just that he denied talking to the Jets.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on June 10, 2020, 05:05:55 PM
Makes sense, but probably not with Jets.  No one said he wasn't coming back, just that he denied talking to the Jets.

Chris Long loves Joe Douglas.  If Kyle comes back, I'd be surprised if it's not here. 

Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 10, 2020, 05:11:22 PM
Kyle Long is gaining weight...

Went from 255 up to 274 and said on Twitter he wants to be at 280 soon.

Why put on weight if you're not coming back?

His wife is a feeder.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Johnny English on June 10, 2020, 05:11:59 PM
Chris Long loves Joe Douglas.  If Kyle comes back, I'd be surprised if it's not here. 



Because his brother tells him to?
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: Heismanberg on June 10, 2020, 05:37:18 PM
Because his brother tells him to?

Yes
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: dcm1602 on June 11, 2020, 01:38:21 AM
Chris Long loves Joe Douglas.  If Kyle comes back, I'd be surprised if it's not here. 



Does it make any sense now that we're stuck with Brian Winters for another year?


I get that we want to improve the line and its been the top priority. But we're paying 3 guards grownup money already, and we just drafted another.

I don't know if I get the logic of bringing in Long at this point. Especially if hes not willing to be here for next to nothing
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: MBGreen on June 11, 2020, 06:31:05 AM
someone should ask Manish if Logan Ryan is "still" a done deal.
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 11, 2020, 07:46:57 AM
someone should ask Manish if Logan Ryan is "still" a done deal.

Logan Ryan and Andre Dillard will be week 1 starters

-Manish
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: reuben on June 25, 2020, 04:19:07 PM
(https://i.redd.it/r676qo0v33751.jpg)
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: d sw0rdz on June 25, 2020, 05:18:24 PM
manish does not deserve his own thread
Title: Re: The Manish Thread
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 25, 2020, 11:38:27 PM
Manish got his own thread?


terrible.
What the freak is this excrement?
Manish had 6 other threads on this forum before I started this one. Either Badger goes nazi on me or the peanut gallery complains, I really don’t give a freak at this point

14 pages of top notch Jets content
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 25, 2020, 11:47:13 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/rajpc1/status/1131566460160106498

Bahahahaha Hahahahah

Manish doesn’t deserve his own thread, GTFO
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: loyaljetsfan on July 31, 2020, 08:35:16 AM
Jets should trade for Yannick Ngakoue

https://sports.yahoo.com/manish-mehta-jets-trade-jaguars-093200577.html

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on July 31, 2020, 08:50:13 AM
Jets should trade for Yannick Ngakoue

https://sports.yahoo.com/manish-mehta-jets-trade-jaguars-093200577.html



I'd rather give the same money to Clowney and keep the pick. More versatile player, less of a dickhead.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: MBGreen on July 31, 2020, 08:52:10 AM
I'd rather give the same money to Clowney and keep the pick. More versatile player, less of a dickhead.

Clowney is more injury prone
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on July 31, 2020, 09:03:21 AM
I'd rather give the same money to Clowney and keep the pick. More versatile player, less of a dickhead.

How is Clowney less of a dickhead?  He's been threatening to holdout since his sophomore year of college.  All he cares about is money.

Ngakoue is the better pass rusher, but I do agree that giving up picks + cash is less desirable. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on July 31, 2020, 09:04:20 AM
Clowney would make our run defense one of the best in NFL.  I think a stronger pass rusher like Ngakoue is clearly the bigger need, especially with how weak our secondary could be. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on July 31, 2020, 09:06:59 AM
I wouldn't want to give up a draft pick for the right to pay Ngakoue $17 million this year and no guarantee he'd sign back.  I'd be against it for the price alone because I don't know he's worth that much, but I might be able to get on board if Doug could get him for a non-1st rounder seeing that we can't sign him to an extension this year.

Quote
There is a level of risk that shouldn’t be marginalized though. NFL rules prevent the Jets from signing Ngakoue to a long-term extension this year. So, Douglas would be banking that the player would believe enough in the franchise (and Williams) to want to stick around beyond 2020.

Both of these guys are gonna cost north of $15 million this year and we aren't in the spot to do that now.  Smoke and mirrors pass rush for one more year.  Big Doug got us the first round OL we've been begging for for a decade.  2021 will be the pass rusher.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on July 31, 2020, 09:13:16 AM
How is Clowney less of a dickhead?  He's been threatening to holdout since his sophomore year of college.  All he cares about is money.

Ngakoue is the better pass rusher, but I do agree that giving up picks + cash is less desirable. 

Lots of players only care about money, it's easy to manage someone who's coin operated because you know what you have to do to get what you want. It becomes a simple financial consideration.

Clowney has never to my knowledge taken to Twitter to argue with the team owners. I would have thought we'd had enough of that by now.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on July 31, 2020, 09:13:46 AM
The only way you'd trade for Ngakoue is if he agrees to an extension as part of the deal
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on July 31, 2020, 09:14:02 AM
The only way you'd trade for Ngakoue is if he agrees to an extension as part of the deal

He can't.

Quote
There is a level of risk that shouldn’t be marginalized though. NFL rules prevent the Jets from signing Ngakoue to a long-term extension this year. So, Douglas would be banking that the player would believe enough in the franchise (and Williams) to want to stick around beyond 2020.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on July 31, 2020, 09:19:26 AM
Yeah, that's a stupid derriere rule and should completely take any pick higher than a 3rd off the table in trade talks.

Jacksonville has no leverage right now. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on July 31, 2020, 09:24:32 AM
Yeah, that's a stupid derriere rule and should completely take any pick higher than a 3rd off the table in trade talks.

Jacksonville has no leverage right now. 

Yeah, I think they are just gonna try to out stubborn him and either make him play or hold out.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on July 31, 2020, 09:30:03 AM
Yeah, I think they are just gonna try to out stubborn him and either make him play or hold out.

He already went back and forth with their owner on Twitter.  Surprised they still have him and haven't shipped him out yet.  They are one of the few franchises in the NFL more inept than us. 

Hopefully they just decide to get something for him and ship him out for a 3rd and a 5th like the Leonard Williams deal. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: loyaljetsfan on July 31, 2020, 10:37:56 AM
He already went back and forth with their owner on Twitter.  Surprised they still have him and haven't shipped him out yet.  They are one of the few franchises in the NFL more inept than us. 

Hopefully they just decide to get something for him and ship him out for a 3rd and a 5th like the Leonard Williams deal. 

I'd give up a 3rd and 5th for Yannick
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: insanity on July 31, 2020, 12:38:48 PM
Manish's time in the play like a jet podcast this week was  worthwhile listen.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: AlioTheFool on July 31, 2020, 12:41:46 PM
I'd give up a 3rd and 5th for Yannick

This

But I don't really see a reason to trade for or sign anyone. I really have doubts there will be a season and if there isn't you've sacrificed resources unnecessarily.

Save the picks (unless you can steal him) and save the cash. Like bo said, 2021 is the pass rusher.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: d sw0rdz on July 31, 2020, 12:53:30 PM
i want ngakoue but there is no point in trading for him unless we're convinced he will extend here long term. one of the reasons why we traded adams was the 'he's good but we're still building and not going to be doing anything this year anyways' argument and the same would apply to ngakoue. therefore it wouldn't even make sense to trade for him unless we know we can secure him long term, and that's something i wouldn't bet with this team for a player that's going to want to be paid at the top level for his position.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 31, 2020, 02:42:40 PM
Ngakoue should be on the FA radar next season but I wouldn’t give up a 5th round pick to rent him for one year. We wouldn’t be able to resign him this year and if the Johnsons hamstrung the FO with cash limits this season before there was even a national pandemic then there is no way they are going to open the cash flow up after the projected revenue loss which would put us at a huge disadvantage for the coming bidding war for his services.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: dcm1602 on July 31, 2020, 06:02:51 PM
Ngakoue should be on the FA radar next season but I wouldn’t give up a 5th round pick to rent him for one year. We wouldn’t be able to resign him this year and if the Johnsons hamstrung the FO with cash limits this season before there was even a national pandemic then there is no way they are going to open the cash flow up after the projected revenue loss which would put us at a huge disadvantage for the coming bidding war for his services.

I mean if we traded a 5th for him we'd very likely get back a 3rd round compensatory pick making that a no brainer.

That said Jacksonville sure as excrement ain't trading him for a 5th
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: mj2sexay on August 01, 2020, 12:43:45 AM
He already went back and forth with their owner on Twitter.  Surprised they still have him and haven't shipped him out yet.  They are one of the few franchises in the NFL more inept than us. 

Hopefully they just decide to get something for him and ship him out for a 3rd and a 5th like the Leonard Williams deal.

In fairness, Tony Khan is a gigantic douchebag.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 01, 2020, 09:19:16 AM
as jfif said, you can't trust these paki-quedas
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 01, 2020, 09:23:04 AM
as jfif said, you can't trust these paki-quedas

May he rest in peace
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 04, 2020, 03:06:34 PM
https://twitter.com/jetsopinion/status/1290663717357707268?s=21
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 03:39:32 PM
https://twitter.com/jetsopinion/status/1290663717357707268?s=21

This might mean something to me if it literally came from any other source...
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 04, 2020, 03:45:31 PM
This might mean something to me if it literally came from any other source...

We can only go by what we see on game day, but the eyeball evidence there would corroborate. Every time you see Gase he's head down in his playbook searching for inspiration as play after play fails - he isn't talking to his players, identifying things they need help figuring out, encouraging them, bollocking them, anything.

I am absolutely convinced that everything his career is built upon is watching film and drawing up plays. It explains why he could succeed with Peyton, it explains why there's such a marked difference between opening drive and subsequent playcalling, it explains why a young QB might think from an initial interview that he's the right man for the job. He's probably extremely good in the right role, but without the man management skills or the ability to read and react to what's happening on the field in real time (both things that were not necessary with Peyton) he is unsuited to being a head coach, and particularly to being the head coach of a team in the position we are.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 04, 2020, 04:09:17 PM
Unless he somehow pulls a Super Bowl win out of his derriere this season, the defining Gase moment for me is going to be him skipping Thanksgiving dinner before the Bengals game.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 04:33:01 PM
Look, I'm not a Gase defender. I wasn't in favor of his hiring and nothing that I've observed to this point has persuaded me that he's the long-term answer for this team. That said, it's difficult for me to reconcile the picture that Manish has painted of the relationship between Gase and his team during the first half of the season with the fact that the team managed to go 6-2 down the stretch. You can point to the schedule if you want but if things were truly that bleak, the team should have cratered.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 04, 2020, 04:39:42 PM
Look, I'm not a Gase defender. I wasn't in favor of his hiring and nothing that I've observed to this point has persuaded me that he's the long-term answer for this team. That said, it's difficult for me to reconcile the picture that Manish has painted of the relationship between Gase and his team during the first half of the season with the fact that the team managed to go 6-2 down the stretch. You can point to the schedule if you want but if things were truly that bleak, the team should have cratered.

The end of the season just seems like the Geno Smith getting a near perfect QB rating in the last game of a season; just enough to keep it going for another year.

I don't think Manish is 100% right but Gase is just comes off as weird and unrelatable (unless, in one of my favorite moments of irony last season, he's shading Manish during a press conference) so hearing that he may have issues motivating his team or speaking to them at all doesn't seem too far fetched to me.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 04, 2020, 04:43:47 PM
https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1211428474788990976?s=20
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 04:44:09 PM
This honestly has more to do with my opinion of Manish that it does with my opinion of Gase. There's obviously bad blood between the two and Manish has consistently allowed his personal feelings to overwhelm his integrity as a journalist.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 04, 2020, 04:44:53 PM
https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1211428474788990976?s=20

I'm just going to keep posting this. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 04:50:30 PM
https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1211428474788990976?s=20

I'm just going to keep posting this. 

And I'll continue to say what I've always said... that Manish is a sniveling little bitch.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 04:51:19 PM
Alex Lewis said it best:

(https://i.redd.it/r676qo0v33751.jpg)
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 04, 2020, 04:53:00 PM
Whether he's the right coach for this team or not, no franchise should want players in their locker room that trash the coach. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 04:54:04 PM
Adams used Manish to force a trade out of town because he knew that he was the only beat writer for this team that would entertain that farce.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 04, 2020, 04:56:44 PM
https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1211428474788990976?s=20

I'm just going to keep posting this. 

https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/81044/how-jets-offense-went-from-potential-lulu-to-a-lou-lou-lemon

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2837130-stats-dont-lie-adam-gase-is-the-wrong-coach-for-sam-darnold-and-the-jets

https://thespun.com/nfl/afc-east/new-york-jets/nfl-analyst-names-the-leagues-worst-head-coach

https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/12/02/jets-adam-gase-called-terrible-game-bengals-worst-run-defense-nfl/

https://www.nj.com/jets/2019/11/cancel-the-jets-adam-gases-team-is-officially-footballs-worst-5-observations-takeaways-from-rock-bottom-loss-to-tanking-dolphins.html

https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/nfl/jets/2019/10/28/jets-whos-blame-sam-darnolds-struggles-start-adam-gase/2483454001/
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 04, 2020, 04:57:50 PM
Jets Wire and Bleacher Report

Very credible
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 04, 2020, 04:58:27 PM
Jets Wire and Bleacher Report

Very credible

As long as a JAG linebacker likes him, that's what really matters.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 04, 2020, 04:58:52 PM
Luke Falk could've been the next Tom Brady if it weren't for Adam Gase!
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 04, 2020, 05:00:05 PM
Luke Falk could've been the next Tom Brady if it weren't for Adam Gase!

Luke Falk lost three games that Sam would have likely lost.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 05:00:16 PM
As long as a JAG linebacker likes him, that's what really matters.

You forgot to mention Joe Douglas, Sam Darnold, and any other player that's ever said anything positive about Gase because it doesn't support your agenda
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 04, 2020, 05:02:34 PM
You forgot to mention Joe Douglas, Sam Darnold, and any other player that's ever said anything positive about Gase because it doesn't support your agenda

I'm also not in the habit of publicly badmouthing colleagues and bosses, even the excrement ones.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 05:08:57 PM
I'm also not in the habit of publicly badmouthing colleagues and bosses, even the excrement ones.

Last I checked, conversations had during exit interviews aren't publicized so if things were really as bleak as Manish described that should have come out after the season and Douglas/ownership would have no choice but to fire Gase.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 05:09:40 PM
Public criticism counts but not public support. Got it.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 05:12:42 PM
Adams never criticized Gase publicly until after he wasn't offered a contract extension. By the time he was traded, he was willing to say anything and everything to get himself out of town.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 04, 2020, 05:14:10 PM
CJ Mosley opted out because of Gase
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 04, 2020, 05:14:58 PM
Last I checked, conversations had during exit interviews aren't publicized so if things were really as bleak as Manish described that should have come out after the season and Douglas/ownership would have no choice but to fire Gase.

That makes no sense.

Public criticism counts but not public support. Got it.

Correct, maybe you're finally starting to figure it out.

Journalists ask athletes questions about their coaches all the time. They generally do not answer with anything other than supportive platitudes because even the most stupid of people are generally smart enough to realise that there is exactly zero upside to saying anything else. This is how having a boss works, in sport as in the real world.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 04, 2020, 05:15:41 PM
CJ Mosley opted out because of Gase

He certainly isn't falling over himself to play for him, is he?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 04, 2020, 05:17:50 PM
Sam Darnold opted to play because of Gase.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 04, 2020, 05:23:12 PM
Sam Darnold opted to play because of Gase.

Sam Darnold opted to play because a third year QB with questions over his long term viability and a season impacted by illness last year wouldn't give a moment's consideration to not doing.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 05:34:31 PM
That makes no sense.

Players have exit interviews with the front office following the season. The contents of these interviews are not made public so players are able to express their view of the direction of the team (i.e. the head coach) without fear of it making it into the press. If the situation was really as dire as Manish describes, this more than likely would have been identified during these interviews (if not well beforehand) and resulted in Douglas/ownership having no choice but to fire Gase.

Furthermore, if any part of what Manish has said is true, he wouldn't be the only one saying it. We know Manish has a vendetta against Gase. This has existed at least as far back as when Gase fired Manish's sources within the clubhouse following his ouster of Maccagnan (something Manish guaranteed wouldn't happen) and assumption of his duties. This was further evidenced by Manish's hostile line of questioning during Gase's press conferences and his apparent creation of a burner Twitter account meant to further discredit Gase.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 05:35:51 PM
Correct, maybe you're finally starting to figure it out.

Journalists ask athletes questions about their coaches all the time. They generally do not answer with anything other than supportive platitudes because even the most stupid of people are generally smart enough to realise that there is exactly zero upside to saying anything else. This is how having a boss works, in sport as in the real world.

There's a difference between not saying anything negative about a coach and voluntarily offering praise for that coach. What Jordan Jenkins said about Gase is relevant because he's widely considered a leader for this team.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 04, 2020, 05:37:27 PM
It's a mistake to assume that there will only be one opinion of Gase in the locker room.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 04, 2020, 05:51:37 PM
It's a mistake to assume that there will only be one opinion of Gase in the locker room.
Exactly. I'm sure some players love him, some like him, some tolerate him, and some don't like him. Adams didn't like Gase, but he loved Gregg Williams, and Gase pretty much made him the coach of the defense.

Gase's future comes down to how well Darnold and the offense develop.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 05:57:29 PM
Gase may or may not be gone following this season. Until the season starts, the constant back and forth on whether or not he's a viable coach is pointless. Ultimately, the proof will be in the results.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 04, 2020, 06:01:36 PM
even Dowell Loggains doesn’t like Gase
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 04, 2020, 06:15:14 PM
Players have exit interviews with the front office following the season. The contents of these interviews are not made public so players are able to express their view of the direction of the team (i.e. the head coach) without fear of it making it into the press. If the situation was really as dire as Manish describes, this more than likely would have been identified during these interviews (if not well beforehand) and resulted in Douglas/ownership having no choice but to fire Gase.

I am aware of what exit interviews are. I'm curious as to your rationale that the Johnsons would have fired Gase after one season off the back of a few bad ones.

I'm also of the view that we have very few players who are good enough to have their NFL future assured, certainly at their current level of pay, and even in the supposedly closed environment of an exit interview it wouldn't surprise me at all if they were at least measured in their words.

Furthermore, if any part of what Manish has said is true, he wouldn't be the only one saying it. We know Manish has a vendetta against Gase. This has existed at least as far back as when Gase fired Manish's sources within the clubhouse following his ouster of Maccagnan (something Manish guaranteed wouldn't happen) and assumption of his duties. This was further evidenced by Manish's hostile line of questioning during Gase's press conferences and his apparent creation of a burner Twitter account meant to further discredit Gase.

We're honestly not far off the point at which your hatred of Manish becomes as equally dismissive a position as you seem to find mine of Gase, that your loathing of him so blinds you to the idea that he might actually be right that he could tell you that Gase has googly eyes and a slightly weird demeanour and you'd accuse him of making it up. Manish seems to have pretty much the same view as I do of Gase; he thinks he's a freaking awful head coach who should never have been hired and every day he stays here makes the team worse. I don't have a vendetta against him, I just want him fired.

The only difference between the plurality of fans who hold this view and Manish is that he has a direct line to Gase and gets to ask him the questions that we wish we could.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 06:22:11 PM
If the morale within the locker room was as bad as Manish described, the team wouldn't have gone 6-2 down the stretch and Gase wouldn't still be employed as the head coach.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 06:25:12 PM
Most of us believe in Joe Douglas. If circumstances were truly that dire, do you genuinely believe he wouldn't have been aware of that and communicated this to the Johnsons, forcing their hand?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 06:28:50 PM
You basically admitted that you're willing to believe Manish because his rhetoric supports your own, even though it's well established that his is fuelled by a deep-seated vendetta against Gase and no other team beat writer is making these claims.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 06:32:01 PM
We're honestly not far off the point at which your hatred of Manish becomes as equally dismissive a position as you seem to find mine of Gase, that your loathing of him so blinds you to the idea that he might actually be right that he could tell you that Gase has googly eyes and a slightly weird demeanour and you'd accuse him of making it up. Manish seems to have pretty much the same view as I do of Gase; he thinks he's a freaking awful head coach who should never have been hired and every day he stays here makes the team worse. I don't have a vendetta against him, I just want him fired.

The only difference between the plurality of fans who hold this view and Manish is that he has a direct line to Gase and gets to ask him the questions that we wish we could.

https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1083167880982786048?s=21
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 04, 2020, 06:39:43 PM
If the morale within the locker room was as bad as Manish described, the team wouldn't have gone 6-2 down the stretch and Gase wouldn't still be employed as the head coach.

Thank you Gregg Williams. I was wrong about you. You're still a dick, but you're a dick who's really good at your job.

Most of us believe in Joe Douglas. If circumstances were truly that dire, do you genuinely believe he wouldn't have been aware of that and communicated this to the Johnsons, forcing their hand?

Whole bunch of stuff wrong there, the main bits being that you're still going on this whole idea that the players are internally revolting against Gase, that you think a first year GM would move against the owners' handpicked coach, and that you think they'd have listened.

If Gase had alienated himself from the team by midseason, they wouldn't have been able to keep that a secret and Gase likely wouldn't have made it through the season.

Please tell me the last time a coach was fired midway through his first season. (I can help you with this. It was 1978, when the 49ers fired someone called Pete McCulley. It's the only time it has ever happened.)

https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1083167880982786048?s=21

So you're saying that people changing their views based upon evidence is.... a bad thing?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 06:40:34 PM
My point was that Gase would not still have a job if what Manish is claiming were true
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 04, 2020, 06:41:36 PM
So you're saying that people changing their views based upon evidence is.... a bad thing?

No, I'm saying that Manish is full of excrement
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: dcm1602 on August 04, 2020, 11:04:10 PM
My point was that Gase would not still have a job if what Manish is claiming were true

If most of what Manish said was true this thread would probably have a different title
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Badger on August 04, 2020, 11:22:58 PM
I've been unimpressed with Gase ever since he was first floated as a possible HC candidate for his accomplishments as Peyton Manning's assistant. Nothing Manish writes made a significant difference to me re:Gase.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: MBGreen on August 05, 2020, 06:08:22 AM
Gase is a bum
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: MexJetinBcn on August 05, 2020, 10:01:32 AM
Gase is a bum

This time would be in much better shape if both Gase and Manish were jettisoned out of the country.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 05, 2020, 11:16:00 AM
Manish is on one because Gase is a “Snake” who “stabbed Mike MacCagnan in the back”




“You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

-Manish Mehta
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 05, 2020, 11:18:31 AM
Mike Maccagnan stabbed himself in the front when he drafted Ardarius Stewart over Chris Godwin and Kenny Golladay. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: MBGreen on August 05, 2020, 11:19:38 AM
Mike Maccagnan stabbed himself in the front when he drafted Ardarius Stewart over Chris Godwin and Kenny Golladay.
Reading this gave me AIDS
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 05, 2020, 11:42:50 AM
Mike Maccagnan stabbed himself in the front when he drafted Ardarius Stewart over Chris Godwin and Kenny Golladay. 
Not sure which is worse - Stewart over Godwin/Golladay or Jace Amaro over Davante Adams/Allen Robinson/Jarvis Landry.

I knew Shaq Evans and Jalen Saunders were bad picks. I actually liked the Enunwa pick with his size/speed combo.

I actually thought Ardarius Stewart and Chad Hansen could potentially be useful. Sigh.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 05, 2020, 11:48:17 AM
I erased passing on Davante Adams from my memory because he is one of my all-time favorite players. 

Thank you for ruining my day. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: MBGreen on August 05, 2020, 11:56:42 AM
Not sure which is worse - Stewart over Godwin/Golladay or Jace Amaro over Davante Adams/Allen Robinson/Jarvis Landry.

I knew Shaq Evans and Jalen Saunders were bad picks. I actually liked the Enunwa pick with his size/speed combo.

I actually thought Ardarius Stewart and Chad Hansen could potentially be useful. Sigh.
Didn’t we pass on Alshon Jeffrey for Stephen Hill?

I really hope Mims is legit....because we’re bad at this.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 05, 2020, 12:10:03 PM
We just need Mims to be decent.  That's better than anything we ever got from Stephen Hill or Devin Smith. 

We shouldn't expect him to be a #1 WR, but he has the tools to be a solid #2. 

2021 is the year to grab a couple more wideouts for Sam. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on August 05, 2020, 12:11:52 PM
Didn’t we pass on Alshon Jeffrey for Stephen Hill?

I really hope Mims is legit....because we’re bad at this.

At least in Mims case when we looked at the board we pretty collectively felt Mims was the right guy. In those other cases, nobody was really on board with those WRs there. I mean most of us talked ourselves into it, but it wasn’t what we wanted

Mims on the other hand....
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 05, 2020, 12:54:04 PM
We just need Mims to be decent.  That's better than anything we ever got from Stephen Hill or Devin Smith. 

We shouldn't expect him to be a #1 WR, but he has the tools to be a solid #2. 

2021 is the year to grab a couple more wideouts for Sam. 
The problem is that we need Mims to be decent RIGHT NOW.

Sam is entering year 3, and this is a big year for his long-term development, yet we're going into the season with Mims, Perriman and Crowder as his top receivers. Perriman and Mims both have the potential to be starting-caliber WRs this season, but both could easily fall flat on their faces.

I really wish we had grabbed another receiver in the middle rounds. Maybe they really like Vyncint Smith.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 05, 2020, 12:56:30 PM
At least in Mims case when we looked at the board we pretty collectively felt Mims was the right guy. In those other cases, nobody was really on board with those WRs there. I mean most of us talked ourselves into it, but it wasn’t what we wanted

Mims on the other hand....
I was fine with the Stephen Hill pick. Hill had absolutely elite measurables, especially at that time. I thought taking a chance on him in the 2nd round made sense. The problem with Hill, just like the problem with Mims, is that we needed him to make an impact right away as a starting WR, and he wasn't close to ready for that (and he never was). Mims at least has had several years as a productive college WR, so there's a simpler path for him to be useful right away. And Mims' measurables are somewhat similar to what Hill's were.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 05, 2020, 01:21:53 PM
I hated that Stephen Hill pick, especially since Alshon Jeffery was right there.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Badger on August 05, 2020, 01:34:45 PM
I was fine with the Stephen Hill pick. Hill had absolutely elite measurables, especially at that time. I thought taking a chance on him in the 2nd round made sense. The problem with Hill, just like the problem with Mims, is that we needed him to make an impact right away as a starting WR, and he wasn't close to ready for that (and he never was). Mims at least has had several years as a productive college WR, so there's a simpler path for him to be useful right away. And Mims' measurables are somewhat similar to what Hill's were.
I hated that Stephen Hill pick, especially since Alshon Jeffery was right there.
I wanted Jeffery but I rationalized the Hill pick for all the reasons DS said.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 05, 2020, 02:06:10 PM
I wanted Jeffery but I rationalized the Hill pick for all the reasons DS said.

My biggest problem was that his best facets were measurables from the Combine and one YouTube vid, not his actual production on the field.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 05, 2020, 07:32:12 PM
My biggest problem was that his best facets were measurables from the Combine, not his actual production on the field.

he had the combine measurables plus one youtube vid
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 05, 2020, 09:35:57 PM
he had the combine measurables plus one youtube vid

Updated.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Badger on August 13, 2020, 11:03:41 AM
Get your vote in:
 https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/1293706180871819274?s=19

If you don't vote, Putin will hide under your bed and grab your feet
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 13, 2020, 11:07:42 AM
Manish trying to create a coaching controversy before the season starts.

What a loser.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: MBGreen on August 13, 2020, 11:09:51 AM
Get your vote in:
 https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/1293706180871819274?s=19

If you don't vote, Putin will hide under your bed and grab your feet


i voted for geg.

Putin wouldn't go near my feet anyway.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 13, 2020, 11:17:54 AM
I went with Boyer but in retrospect I wish I'd voted for Kenny.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: loyaljetsfan on August 13, 2020, 06:04:16 PM
No surprise that Gase edged out Looooggaainz by half a percent.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 13, 2020, 06:20:09 PM
Are people taking a Twitter poll seriously? 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 13, 2020, 06:31:30 PM
Are people taking a Twitter poll seriously?
Yes, we believe that the Johnsons will use this to determine whether Gase keeps his job or not. Every vote counts.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 25, 2020, 10:28:23 AM
Libero posted about this in another thread, but it appears to be legit.

The NFL revoked Manish Mehta's credentials

lmaoooooooooooo
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 25, 2020, 10:29:27 AM
Excellent.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on August 25, 2020, 10:31:22 AM
Wonder what he did.  Being a douche has never been grounds for this.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 25, 2020, 10:32:27 AM
This is the closest thing we've had to a playoff win since 2010
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: MBGreen on August 25, 2020, 10:33:07 AM
Good...freak him
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: MBGreen on August 25, 2020, 10:35:47 AM
Manish is now below Dan Leberfeld on the beat writer depth chart
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 25, 2020, 10:41:37 AM
Manish is now below Dan Leberfeld on the beat writer depth chart

*whispers*
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Rosetta Stoned on August 25, 2020, 11:07:27 AM
This is the closest thing we've had to a playoff win since 2010

First I laughed, but now on second thought this is just sad.

Nevertheless, freak Mehta. Good riddance.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 25, 2020, 11:14:02 AM
this is a good bit of news
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 25, 2020, 11:15:29 AM
Manish is tweeting through it lmaooooo
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 25, 2020, 11:16:54 AM
Dude is probably biting the content of Cimini’s tweets and posting from his parents basement
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 25, 2020, 11:31:15 AM
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/UTFiHeDL8cOSA/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: MexJetinBcn on August 25, 2020, 01:27:01 PM
This is the happiest I’ve been as a Jets fan in the last 10 years. Realizing this has made me sad though.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 25, 2020, 01:48:01 PM
Go to Boomer and Gio, it's at 7:31am.

https://www.radio.com/wfan/listen

Still not confirmed, but if it's true I'm really interested to hear why.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: klaximilian on August 25, 2020, 01:51:13 PM
Go to Boomer and Gio, it's at 7:31am.

https://www.radio.com/wfan/listen

Still not confirmed, but if it's true I'm really interested to hear why.

I suppose being an absolute c*nt doesn't qualify him?

NFL probably keeps a tally of bullsh*t and fake news that he throws against the wall, just hoping to get people fired.

Just a hunch...
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 25, 2020, 01:56:45 PM
Douglas and/or Gase could've made a request to have it revoked. 

It sounds like the NFL and the Jets pulled his credentials.  Good riddance. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 25, 2020, 01:58:15 PM
I suppose being an absolute c*nt doesn't qualify him?

NFL probably keeps a tally of bullsh*t and fake news that he throws against the wall, just hoping to get people fired.

Just a hunch...


I doubt it. Reporters are supposed to be digging under the surface for the stories and asking the difficult questions, we already pay cheerleading squads separately.

I don't have any particular love for Manish, but I also don't have the hatred many seem to. I'd rather someone was actually reporting on what was happening even when it's not good, than just tossing meatballs to the club and its staff to put over the wall.

If the NFL has revoked his credentials my guess would be that it's something more untoward; he doesn't seem to have any friends among the writers, so if he's done something sketchy like paying for stories or leaks or creating fake social media accounts to set up club staff, and if they have proof of it, that would be my guess.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 25, 2020, 02:00:47 PM
His writing was very troll heavy. I’m not going to miss him, but I expect whoever takes over for him permanently is going to be the same way. Cimini was very similar to Mehta when he was still at NYDN; it’s clearly the style they want for the Jets’ beat writer.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 25, 2020, 02:43:35 PM
Never read him and won't miss him. Between Costello's Twitter and this forum I keep up with the Jets without the nonsense.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: insanity on August 25, 2020, 04:01:49 PM
He is on turn on the jets podcast atleast once a week.  I wonder if he shows up this week and discusses what happened
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: reuben on August 25, 2020, 04:41:15 PM
I'd rather someone was actually reporting on what was happening even when it's not good, than just tossing meatballs to the club and its staff to put over the wall.

I'm sure everyone here would agree with that.  But the line between creating storylines and uncovering them is especially blurry in sports journalism and I'm fairly certain Manish Mehta isn't even aware it exists. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 25, 2020, 05:07:56 PM
https://twitter.com/ChrisCarlin/status/1298377083819905024?s=20
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on August 25, 2020, 05:14:00 PM
https://twitter.com/ChrisCarlin/status/1298377083819905024?s=20

This is the story I want to read tomorrow not a random fluff piece about Pierre Desir getting healthy
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 25, 2020, 05:17:24 PM
Poor Wyatt.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 25, 2020, 05:29:31 PM
Poor Wyatt.

I'm wondering if they are finally pinning that on him
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 25, 2020, 06:16:24 PM
I'm wondering if they are finally pinning that on him

If that's what finally did him in, that's hysterical.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on August 25, 2020, 07:44:42 PM
If that's what finally did him in, that's hysterical.

It was also so long ago, I can't believe they got new information now.

If that was it though, couldn't they toss Cimini for the fake account he made a few years back? Or does that not count because it was trolling Manish?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: insanity on August 25, 2020, 08:38:40 PM
Poor Wyatt.
Wyatt?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 25, 2020, 08:55:03 PM
Wyatt?

Fake Twitter account that Manish started and tried to pass off as Gase's shadow account.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 25, 2020, 09:31:20 PM
This is the story I want to read tomorrow not a random fluff piece about Pierre Desir getting healthy

Lets hope more information comes out by the end of the week

This is all pretty amazing
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 25, 2020, 10:12:05 PM
It's sad that I am more interested in this than anything that the players do in training camp.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 25, 2020, 10:35:55 PM
Fake Twitter account that Manish started and tried to pass off as Gase's shadow account.

I remember that, a freaking clown show. I actually enjoy the Jets more since I've stopped paying attention to sports "journalists."
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: dcm1602 on August 25, 2020, 10:42:36 PM
Trying to figure out why Manish is still posting Twitter coverage of the Jets

Presumably, it's because he still has a jets beat writer, and that will likely change if/when any sort of (if one exists?) appeals process ends?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 26, 2020, 10:40:16 AM
This bitch is trying to stir up trouble ...of course.  And he also deactivated all comments on Twitter. 

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on August 26, 2020, 10:41:26 AM
This bitch is trying to stir up trouble ...of course.  And he also deactivated all comments on Twitter. 

I hope his firing whenever he loses whatever appeal process exists is very public.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 26, 2020, 04:24:57 PM
I hope he tries to carry on as a Jets beat reporter with no credentials and no access. That would be freaking hilarious
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 26, 2020, 04:25:16 PM
I hope he still try’s to carry on as a Jets beat reporter with no credentials and no access. That would be freaking hilarious

Currently what he's doing
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on August 26, 2020, 04:36:59 PM
Currently what he's doing
I hope the appeal process is less than a week, and it gets denied.

Unfortunately, because the DN is looking for that type of writing/click bait I imagine his replacement will do things similarly.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 26, 2020, 04:52:04 PM
I hope the appeal process is less than a week, and it gets denied.

Unfortunately, because the DN is looking for that type of writing/click bait I imagine his replacement will do things similarly.

Is he appealing? 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 26, 2020, 04:55:33 PM
I hope the appeal process is less than a week, and it gets denied.

Unfortunately, because the DN is looking for that type of writing/click bait I imagine his replacement will do things similarly.

Everyone hated Cimini for doing the same thing when he was there, then he left and people decided he wasn't so bad after all.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 26, 2020, 05:02:09 PM
I just want to know what Mehta did
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on August 26, 2020, 05:09:57 PM
Is he appealing? 

I would imagine if he / the NYDN wasn't appealing he would be removed already.

If he doesn't have credentials and isn't getting them back, then why would the NYDN keep him employed in this role?

Thats the only evidence I have for his appealing the decision
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 26, 2020, 05:19:11 PM
I hope the appeal process is less than a week, and it gets denied.

Unfortunately, because the DN is looking for that type of writing/click bait I imagine his replacement will do things similarly.

That was my thought, but if their schtick is getting their writers banned from the league then they might be reconsidering their strategy.

Either that or they'll just have the next one sign an agreement to not create burner Twitter accounts.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: loyaljetsfan on August 26, 2020, 05:28:18 PM
I just want to know what Mehta did

Cuckold Gase
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on August 26, 2020, 05:31:34 PM
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Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 26, 2020, 05:33:07 PM
Nope. Not doing that one.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 26, 2020, 05:42:17 PM
Cuckold Gase

The NFL doesn't just pull a writer's credentials because the coach doesn't get along with them.

Gase clearly doesn't like Cimini either but he's still out there.

Manish did something different. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 26, 2020, 05:43:14 PM
I just want to know what Mehta did

I sent this thread to Roger Goodell
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 26, 2020, 05:44:01 PM
Cuckold Gase

The night of Thanksgiving dinner 2019
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 26, 2020, 05:44:50 PM
I sent this thread to Roger Goodell

He will hire a firm to investigate and then burn the tapes
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on August 26, 2020, 05:45:08 PM
The NFL doesn't just pull a writer's credentials because the coach doesn't get along with them.

Gase clearly doesn't like Cimini either but he's still out there.

Manish did something different. 

I agree, but Cimini's ESPN. No way the NFL is pulling ESPN credentials the way they can with a local tabloid; they'd have a quiet word in someone's ear in Bristol and tell them to deal with it.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 26, 2020, 05:45:32 PM
I'd forgotten this until today but didn't Mehta accidentally tweet a NYDN article from his burner account, only to delete it and retweet it from his own account shortly thereafter? If that whole episode was going to result in him losing his credentials, shouldn't that have already happened?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on August 26, 2020, 05:52:01 PM
Also, as much as we may have detested Cimini while he was writing for the NYDN, that was mostly for his near-constant negativity/"glass half empty" attitude, not for being unprofessional or putting out false stories. It's honestly a bit insulting to compare him to Mehta.
Title: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: MBGreen on August 26, 2020, 06:37:51 PM
The NFL doesn't just pull a writer's credentials because the coach doesn't get along with them.

Gase clearly doesn't like Cimini either but he's still out there.

Manish did something different.
Fucked Gase’s wife on Thanksgiving?


Edit: freak you, SFD
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Badger on August 27, 2020, 10:48:03 AM
Never read him and won't miss him. Between Costello's Twitter and this forum I keep up with the Jets without the nonsense.
Costello is a marxist
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 27, 2020, 12:25:08 PM
Need to get Cimini to ask Gase if Manish fucked his wife
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: MBGreen on August 27, 2020, 12:30:42 PM
Need to get Cimini to ask Gase if Manish fucked his wife
Or Leberfeld...if you’re willing to wait a few weeks for the result
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 27, 2020, 12:36:32 PM
I really want to hear what he actually did. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone corroborate Boomer and Gio’s report.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 27, 2020, 12:53:34 PM
I wonder if it has anything to do with Jamal Adams?

Manish helped steer that entire situation and he and Adams always got along. I've talked in the past about how Jamal had been chummy with Manish in postgame interviews, even after bad losses when Adams was throwing a tantrum with everyone else.

If Manish was tampering with the operations of the team, above and beyond simple reporting, I'd say that would be grounds for losing your credentials.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on August 27, 2020, 12:56:18 PM
I wonder if it has anything to do with Jamal Adams?

Manish helped steer that entire situation and he and Adams always got along. I've talked in the past about how Jamal had been chummy with Manish in postgame interviews, even after bad losses when Adams was throwing a tantrum with everyone else.

If Manish was tampering with the operations of the team, above and beyond simple reporting, I'd say that would be grounds for losing your credentials.
Makes sense.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 27, 2020, 12:58:25 PM
I wonder if it has anything to do with Jamal Adams?

Manish helped steer that entire situation and he and Adams always got along. I've talked in the past about how Jamal had been chummy with Manish in postgame interviews, even after bad losses when Adams was throwing a tantrum with everyone else.

If Manish was tampering with the operations of the team, above and beyond simple reporting, I'd say that would be grounds for losing your credentials.

That’s an interesting theory and one that I could see.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on August 27, 2020, 01:06:34 PM
That’s an interesting theory and one that I could see.

It’s also much more relevant time wise in comparison to the Wyatt story which in the landscape of the world right now was a very very long time ago
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 27, 2020, 01:10:18 PM
It’s also much more relevant time wise in comparison to the Wyatt story which in the landscape of the world right now was a very very long time ago

I think recent is a better word than relevant here.

It’s likely that it’s not just one incident. If one thing was enough to do it I feel like it would have been more well-circulated in the media. Right now no one is really talking about it. I’m thinking it’s been a culmination of several things, including the Wyatt account and the Jamal interview.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 28, 2020, 01:15:58 PM
I think recent is a better word than relevant here.

It’s likely that it’s not just one incident. If one thing was enough to do it I feel like it would have been more well-circulated in the media. Right now no one is really talking about it. I’m thinking it’s been a culmination of several things, including the Wyatt account and the Jamal interview.

That would make a lot of sense. It has likely been a series of events that the Jets finally presented and said "Enough is enough."
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 28, 2020, 03:18:30 PM
That would make a lot of sense. It has likely been a series of events that the Jets finally presented and said "Enough is enough."
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Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: dcm1602 on August 28, 2020, 05:21:41 PM
I think recent is a better word than relevant here.

It’s likely that it’s not just one incident. If one thing was enough to do it I feel like it would have been more well-circulated in the media. Right now no one is really talking about it. I’m thinking it’s been a culmination of several things, including the Wyatt account and the Jamal interview.

For what it's worth, I talked to someone who may or may not have deeper insights into this situation. And it has nothing to do with Jamal or the Wyatt thing.

I was told it has to do with a history of behind the scenes behavior from Manish that helped him get his inside sources, that will surprise absolutely nobody when the details come to light.

And possibly Manish crossing unprofessional lines regarding key jets leadership families.

And something something something Manish at a baseball game.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 28, 2020, 05:24:06 PM
For what it's worth, I talked to someone who may or may not have deeper insights into this situation. And it has nothing to do with Jamal or the Wyatt thing.

I was told it has to do with a history of behind the scenes behavior from Manish that helped him get his inside sources, that will surprise absolutely nobody when the details come to light.

And possibly Manish crossing unprofessional lines regarding key jets leadership families.

And something something something Manish at a baseball game.


Does said source have any idea when the info will be released?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: dcm1602 on August 28, 2020, 05:33:01 PM
Does said source have any idea when the info will be released?

I asked no idea

But I'd imagine that if nothings published next week then a lot of what I posted above could be complete nonsense.

Though based on the perception of Manish, everything I heard was entirely believable
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on August 28, 2020, 06:04:49 PM
I asked no idea

But I'd imagine that if nothings published next week then a lot of what I posted above could be complete nonsense.

Though based on the perception of Manish, everything I heard was entirely believable

I would say that I’ll be surprised if details surface. Manish certainly won’t release them as it would likely end his career in the industry. I can’t imagine the Jets will. If they were going to it would be done already. And what other reporter on the beat is going to dig into this? If they were in a similar spot, they would hope their colleagues wouldn’t bring the story to light.

That said I hope we do get details and somebody will put them out there.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: dcm1602 on August 28, 2020, 06:12:44 PM
I would say that I’ll be surprised if details surface. Manish certainly won’t release them as it would likely end his career in the industry. I can’t imagine the Jets will. If they were going to it would be done already. And what other reporter on the beat is going to dig into this? If they were in a similar spot, they would hope their colleagues wouldn’t bring the story to light.

That said I hope we do get details and somebody will put them out there.

Well Manish is essentially banned from the NFL for life for unprofessional behavior. So I don't see why anyone would stand up for him.

Not to mention if anything that I heard is true (which I'll be entirely honest it's totally possible some of it is, it's possible none of it is)

Then it should easily make its way out in the near future
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 28, 2020, 06:25:51 PM
whose dick was he sckin for inside scoops
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on August 28, 2020, 06:31:44 PM
Dcm knows a guy who mows Manish's lawn for cap space.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on August 28, 2020, 06:37:55 PM
Well Manish is essentially banned from the NFL for life for unprofessional behavior. So I don't see why anyone would stand up for him.

Not to mention if anything that I heard is true (which I'll be entirely honest it's totally possible some of it is, it's possible none of it is)

Then it should easily make its way out in the near future

What did you hear?  Post more details. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on August 28, 2020, 06:45:18 PM
Well Manish is essentially banned from the NFL for life for unprofessional behavior. So I don't see why anyone would stand up for him.

Not to mention if anything that I heard is true (which I'll be entirely honest it's totally possible some of it is, it's possible none of it is)

Then it should easily make its way out in the near future

I don't know the answer to any of the following questions, but perhaps you do since you know a guy in the biz,

1. Are there different levels of revoked credentials? Suspended for a few weeks? Or is it purely for life?
2. If he has no creds, and no hope of ever getting them back why is he still employed at NYDN? Is there some sort of appeal process for the decision?
3. If nothing comes out in the next week or so will you tell us what you heard he is responsible for?
4. Is your source 'important enough' that if you post details on a jets message board that they could be found out that easily?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: dcm1602 on August 28, 2020, 06:55:05 PM
I don't know the answer to any of the following questions, but perhaps you do since you know a guy in the biz,

1. Are there different levels of revoked credentials? Suspended for a few weeks? Or is it purely for life?
2. If he has no creds, and no hope of ever getting them back why is he still employed at NYDN? Is there some sort of appeal process for the decision?
3. If nothing comes out in the next week or so will you tell us what you heard he is responsible for?
4. Is your source 'important enough' that if you post details on a jets message board that they could be found out that easily?

1) the exact language I heard was "indefinitely/forever". Which makes me think there is different levels, and that Manish is done for his career in regard to the nfl

2) I asked this question as well, but they don't work for the NYDN so couldn't help me there.

3) yes ,though at that point I'll assume most of what I heard is BS, unless any specific details inevitably match up

4) I mean they specifically asked me not to say anything (thus I was only as specific as I could be to suggest that they may have a clue, without posting anything incriminating). They're definitely not important but the people they have access to are.

I'm definitely not trying to act all Incarcerated Bob here. If I was I wouldn't be posting this on a message board with like 6 people.

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 28, 2020, 07:05:27 PM
For what it's worth, I talked to someone who may or may not have deeper insights into this situation. And it has nothing to do with Jamal or the Wyatt thing.

I was told it has to do with a history of behind the scenes behavior from Manish that helped him get his inside sources, that will surprise absolutely nobody when the details come to light.

And possibly Manish crossing unprofessional lines regarding key jets leadership families.

And something something something Manish at a baseball game.


This is such a Manish post
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: dcm1602 on August 28, 2020, 07:21:05 PM
This is such a Manish post

Haha hey I intentionally included two fairly specific things that would easily be confirmable if any of what I heads was true.

And I'm certainly not going to be adamant that things are true. While I trust the person I talked to. I imagine that if anything was rock solid truth then it would be published by someone somewhere, even if on social media. And if it's not, then it's probably a glorified game of telephone.

But regardless I will specifically mention everything I heard in a few days, just to not end ho getting any blowback on a friend.

But there really isn't a ton more (that I know) than what I posted. Just a little more specific, with one specific example
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on August 28, 2020, 08:44:20 PM
Well we all will await with bated breath for DCMs most important post of all time
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Badger on August 29, 2020, 08:52:04 AM
Well we all will await with bated breath for DCMs most important post of all time
Worst day at the airport
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 29, 2020, 09:01:53 AM
let's be real, DCM would do a better 'incarcerated bob' than incarcerated bob
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 29, 2020, 02:49:07 PM
Worst day at the airport

I would do anything to read that thread
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 02, 2020, 08:28:53 AM
https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1300936270089195527?s=21
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 02, 2020, 08:33:41 AM
If he's barred from Jets and league property why is he still posting about them?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on September 02, 2020, 08:34:41 AM
If he's barred from Jets and league property why is he still posting about them?
Because nydn hasn't fired him so he has do do some kind of work.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: delavan on September 02, 2020, 07:54:15 PM
https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1300936270089195527?s=21
  Mannish late to the table - just sayin

  https://www.thejetoffensive.com/index.php/topic,4958.msg382349.html#msg382349
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 02, 2020, 08:56:20 PM
  Mannish late to the table - just sayin

  https://www.thejetoffensive.com/index.php/topic,4958.msg382349.html#msg382349

Are you Manish tho
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 03, 2020, 10:27:00 AM
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Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes

#Jets ownership bought out an entire hotel walking distance from the facility for the entirety of training camp.

That must have cost a pretty penny. Not cheap to do that.

"cash flow restrictions"
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on September 03, 2020, 10:34:48 AM
"cash flow restrictions"

When did they do that? Is that where all the players had been staying? If so why didn’t it get reported before now?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on September 03, 2020, 10:35:57 AM
Trump Hotel
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Badger on September 03, 2020, 10:51:04 AM
Trump Hotel
Anchor Inn
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on September 03, 2020, 10:59:44 AM
Anchor Inn

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Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: delavan on September 03, 2020, 11:02:37 AM
Are you Manish tho

  No but did give him excrement at a Cortland training camp though. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 03, 2020, 11:32:26 AM
https://twitter.com/briancoz/status/1301538939791192065?s=21
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 03, 2020, 11:33:46 AM
https://twitter.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1301539115112886273?s=21
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 03, 2020, 11:34:39 AM
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 03, 2020, 11:36:15 AM
These dudes are so catty.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on September 03, 2020, 11:37:03 AM
I don't get it.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 03, 2020, 11:40:19 AM
I don't get it.

Costello is saying Manish just parrots other beat writers since his credentials were pulled.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 03, 2020, 11:43:31 AM
Hilarious.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 03, 2020, 11:46:26 AM
It's obvious that none of the other team beat writers respect Manish... and that should tell you all you need to know.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on September 03, 2020, 11:58:33 AM
Costello is saying Manish just parrots other beat writers since his credentials were pulled.
Ahh
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on September 03, 2020, 05:53:56 PM
It's obvious that none of the other team beat writers respect Manish... and that should tell you all you need to know.
But they don't disrespect him enough to either find out why his creds were pulled, or tell us why they are gone.

If it turns out Mehta loses whatever appeals process, I wonder if the NYDN has Costello write a story on why, so that the public blames Manish and doesn't put any blame on the paper itself.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: dcm1602 on September 03, 2020, 07:54:41 PM
Well what I was told was that Manish was blackmailing staff/employees telling them he would give them fluffed up coverage if they gave him insider knowledge and the opposite if they did not.

Apparently he also had gone up to Joe Douglas 11 year old kid when he was with friends at a Phillies game and basically asked him all kinds of excrement, and then apparently texted Douglas something about his kid (some kind of context like hey I know what your kids doing right now creepy weird way), thoguh I found that part weird and wasn't given nearly enough context.

I have zero to what degree this is true as its not published so I can't say it meets journalistic standards for publishing. But I do find the source reliable enoguh that I believe it or at least most of it, and it would certainly explain why Manish got an indefinite/lifetime ban from the league. Especially provoking an NFL GM and or approaching their young child without one of their parents present.


I figured a more concrete story would have come out by now with details, so that's what I got 🤷‍♂️.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on September 03, 2020, 08:09:07 PM
The second part definitely sounds like the exact type of thing that would get a guy blackballed from the league. For the sake of everyone involved I hope he didn’t do that to JDs kid.


The first part sounds exactly like the excrement Mehta would do. Offering media praise for reward and negative pieces/articles on players who don’t give him behind the scenes stuff. Definitely feels like the reason why he has undying love for certain guys and weird hate for others
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 03, 2020, 09:49:18 PM
Journalistic integrity
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 03, 2020, 09:54:13 PM
It puts his articles on Gase in a slightly different light.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 04, 2020, 08:56:56 AM
https://theathletic.com/podcast/56-cant-wait/?episode=64
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: IATA on September 04, 2020, 09:03:45 AM
if the excrement about JDs kid is true, holy freak how can NYDN keep this piece of trash employed? how dosent JD have a restraining order against him?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 04, 2020, 09:52:09 AM
Manish carved the turkey at the Gase family Thanksgiving

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on September 04, 2020, 01:53:21 PM
if the excrement about JDs kid is true, holy freak how can NYDN keep this piece of trash employed? how dosent JD have a restraining order against him?

He might. As far as I know restraining orders may be public record, but if you don't know to go looking for one, how would you know it's there if no one told you?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on September 04, 2020, 02:32:36 PM
We should probably slow our roll if we are basing it off dcm
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Badger on September 04, 2020, 05:50:27 PM
We should probably slow our roll if we are basing it off dcm
Is dcm more or less reliable than Manish?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on September 04, 2020, 06:13:16 PM
Is dcm more or less reliable than Manish?
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Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: MBGreen on September 04, 2020, 06:39:17 PM
Is dcm more or less reliable than Manish?
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Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 04, 2020, 07:30:16 PM
dcm’s source is Heimerdinger
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 08, 2020, 03:05:52 PM
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-joe-douglas-super-bowl-20200908-2iccad7qmjblddwkxj7eba7oti-story.html

This is one of the dumbest things Manish has ever written
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 08, 2020, 03:07:24 PM
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People in the organization believed that Douglas was closing in on signing free-agent defensive back Logan Ryan in May. Things went haywire after a Daily News story on May 12 cited team sources that believed Douglas was about to land Ryan. The general manager responded to the New story by curiously halting talks for an extended period of time, according to people in the organization.

lmao

so the Jets didn't sign Logan Ryan to play safety for $7.5M because Manish broke the deal before it happened

he should be fired for this garbage
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on September 08, 2020, 03:18:06 PM
Well.

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the rookie GM made his fair share of missteps that exacerbated situations. He fumbled the Jamal Adams contract negotiations ....

Douglas deserves credit for making the best out of a bad situation that he was partly responsible for creating

I agree with that, and have all along as you know.

This is also true:

Quote
Douglas signed a litany of middling players to one-year or de facto one-year contracts.

And so is this:

Quote
The eternal Kool-Aid imbibers and propagandists will close their eyes, click their heels and wish for better days without seeing reality right in front of them.

I have no idea whether the money thing with the owners is true, it sounds semi-plausible but we'll probably never know. I also have no idea about the Ryan thing but it sounds weird.

What I do know is that we have a crap roster, again, and are staring down the barrel of a excrement season, again. I wonder if the roster once again serves as the excuse for Gase. I fear it might. Certainly I have still seen nothing from Douglas that makes me think he's going to be the man to turn things around, even if his failure to do so might not be entirely his fault.

Still, there's always 2021.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 08, 2020, 03:30:43 PM
Were there any free agents worth signing to big contracts?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on September 08, 2020, 03:40:33 PM
Were there any free agents worth signing to big contracts?

Conklin, Bulaga, Anderson and Lawson are all better players than anyone we signed, and all play positions of significant need.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 08, 2020, 03:46:10 PM
Conklin, Bulaga, Anderson and Lawson are all better players than anyone we signed, and all play positions of significant need.

We tried on Conklin and were outbid.  Douglas also went after Thuney but New England franchised him at the last second. 

Bryan Bulaga is old, injury prone and making $10M per season.  Not worth it.

Shaq Lawson stinks. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on September 08, 2020, 03:46:28 PM
Were there any free agents worth signing to big contracts?

The only guy I think is worth what he got paid was Conklin. If we were gonna give Fant that much money on a flier/please dear god I hope so deal, then Conklin would have been worth that much to us.

The other guy worth bringing back was Robbie Anderson. However, I do think if healthy, his production will not be worth double the cost of Perriman's production. If Perriman is healthy, I bet that gamble pays off for us. Frankly I am fine with that decision even now, given that we have Mims in the fold. Now Mims health throws a wrench into things, but hopefully he is healthy and can contribute as the season goes on.

If Thuney hit the market, he also would have been worth it. But he did not.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 08, 2020, 03:47:38 PM
We signed Breshad Perriman for half the cost of Robby Anderson.

Neither player is great. 

Anderson was only good at one thing.  He won't be missed that much. 

I'd rather save the cap space than spend it on players that disappear. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on September 08, 2020, 03:55:28 PM
We tried on Conklin and were outbid.

And yet, to Manish's point:

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Only two teams have more than the Jets’ $31.3 million in salary cap space.

Why are we being outbid on players we need and want, when we can compete financially?

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Bryan Bulaga is old, injury prone and making $10M per season.  Not worth it.

He's the exact same money as George Fant on the exact same length of contract. Bulaga might be past his peak, but at least he's had one and we know what he's capable of. We paid Bulaga money for a guy who might never be capable of starting at the role.

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Shaq Lawson stinks. 

.... and yet, to my previous point, would still be our best edge rusher if he were on our roster.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 08, 2020, 04:00:01 PM
Why are we being outbid on players we need and want, when we can compete financially?

Because Douglas isn't a bitch like Maccagan that gets bodies by agents.  He had a set price in mind and didn't break. 

Spending money just to spend it leads to contracts like the one we gave Trumaine Johnson. 

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He's the exact same money as George Fant on the exact same length of contract. Bulaga might be past his peak, but at least he's had one and we know what he's capable of. We paid Bulaga money for a guy who might never be capable of starting at the role.

Length of contract matters.  We don't want to be tied to a declining player.  Escapability and guaranteed money matter. 

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.... and yet, to my previous point, would still be our best edge rusher if he were on our roster.

He's not better than Jordan Jenkins
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 08, 2020, 04:02:06 PM
Anyways, I was talking about the Logan Ryan blurb.

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on September 08, 2020, 04:08:15 PM
Because Douglas isn't a bitch like Maccagan that gets bodies by agents.  He had a set price in mind and didn't break. 

Spending money just to spend it leads to contracts like the one we gave Trumaine Johnson.

I don't think Conklin and TruJo are comparable. Sometimes players just quit, you can't legislate for that.

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Length of contract matters.  We don't want to be tied to a declining player. 

But we're happy to be tied to one that may never have a peak from which to decline? I know which feels riskier.

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He's not better than Jordan Jenkins

If Lawson hadn't been drafted in the first he'd be seen as a solid pro who has improved every year. I think the argument vs Jenkins is there, he's definitely a better athlete and would bring a different dimension to our defense.

Again, the point is that Douglas passed up or missed out on a number of opportunities to improve the team in FA. His job is hard because we're not attractive compared to pretty much any other team in the league, but it's his job to work past that. He had and has the cap space to do it, and chose not to.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on September 08, 2020, 04:09:15 PM
Anyways, I was talking about the Logan Ryan blurb.

I don't know why Manish is trying to make himself part of that story, but it wouldn't wholly surprise me if we wanted Ryan and for whatever reason were unable to persuade him.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on September 08, 2020, 04:12:47 PM
And yet, to Manish's point:

Why are we being outbid on players we need and want, when we can compete financially?

He's the exact same money as George Fant on the exact same length of contract. Bulaga might be past his peak, but at least he's had one and we know what he's capable of. We paid Bulaga money for a guy who might never be capable of starting at the role.

.... and yet, to my previous point, would still be our best edge rusher if he were on our roster.
I'm not going to echo H's sentiments, the guy has already covered big reasons why not for all 3.

In my eyes, the only 'prize' FA this year that was something we desperately needed was Conklin. I would have paid him, and been more than fine being tied to him for a few years to do it. But the other 2, I wouldn't have wanted to be tied to beyond 1 year. Fant we are able to get out of after this year because he was an unknown, Bulaga would NOT have signed the same deal Fant had. As for Lawson, he's not a premium player, and I would bet he has a comparable (at best) season to Jenkins this year. While you could argue that's worth paying for to have opposite Jenkins, you can't pretend he would be worth what he would be getting paid.

To me, last years FA crop SUCKED for what we desperately needed. Next year's will hopefully be better. If it isn't, then we will largely see similar things happen to this year, Average FA's paid Average money, or underrated guys getting paid average money with a chance to jump up a tier in play.

If a superstar difference maker hits the market, then we would go after that guy for sure. But if an above average (top 7-15 player at his position) hits the market (much like Conklin this year), I imagine we set our price, and if the guy takes it great, if he doesn't, then we don't push the budget, and we let him sign elsewhere. You may or may not agree with that philosophy, but that appears to be JD's plan. It will protect us from bad/bullshit contracts like Trumaine Johnson, but it also means we probably won't sign a ton of above average guys at their positions if they are also the 'best the FA market has to offer' either, because somebody else will overpay, where we won't. Which means we will need to draft well in order to get those guys ourselves.

In the past however many regimes, we have been so freaking terrible at drafting, that the only way we could actually acquire talent, is if someone else let it walk. That's how all of our good teams in the last 20 years have been formed. In reality, the best way to build, is to draft well, and acquire a missing piece he or there in FA. We aren't comfortable as fans with this plan, because almost all of us have NEVER seen it work. The only plans that work are overspending on FA's, so that's what we are hardwired to see and want, even if it isn't what's best for us.

How JD handles the first 2 days of the 2021 draft is going to shape this franchise for the next five years, and quite frankly will determine how soon we return to the postseason. We need him to be as good as the guys he learned from to drag us from this hell hole, and that includes not only drafting guys, but trading down for more cheap capital both in 2021 and in 2022.  If we supplement that with 2-3 strong FA signings, and this train could be rolling in 2021 with a bright future headed into 2022, especially if Seattle has a bad season in either of the next 2 years.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 08, 2020, 04:15:19 PM
I don't know why Manish is trying to make himself part of that story, but it wouldn't wholly surprise me if we wanted Ryan and for whatever reason were unable to persuade him.

Manish is saying the ONLY reason we didn't sign him is because he broke the story before it happened, so Douglas backed off to make him look stupid. 

It's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 08, 2020, 04:17:02 PM
I don't think Conklin and TruJo are comparable. Sometimes players just quit, you can't legislate for that.

Okay, so lets compare him to CJ Mosley. 

Another contract given out just because we had the money to spend. 

You don't win consistently in the NFL by throwing out big contracts.  It gets you into trouble quickly. 

Douglas very clearly has a plan to build through the draft.  He's already cleaned up a lot of the mess that Maccagnan and Idzik left behind.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 08, 2020, 04:18:00 PM
But we're happy to be tied to one that may never have a peak from which to decline? I know which feels riskier.

Bulaga is guaranteed twice as much money.  George Fant can be released after this season if it doesn't work out.  We are not tied to Fant. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on September 08, 2020, 04:21:41 PM
I'm fine with what Douglas has done.  Of course I'd like to have seen us get a few bigger-time players, but it doesn't make sense to overpay by a ton when we have so many holes.  I'd rather overpay when we need a piece to get deep in the post-season.  Right now just draft well, fill in holes with reasonable contract vets until draft picks take over roles. 

It's hard to be patient, but I think we will see some big spending next year when the starters start filling in with draft picks.  Plus who knows whether Gase is still here in 2021.  A coaching change will certainly affect things.

Conklin isn't worth $14 million per year.


Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 08, 2020, 04:51:16 PM
Bad teams overpay.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on September 08, 2020, 04:54:31 PM
Bad teams overpay.

a) I'm not suggesting that we overpay, at least not as an ongoing strategy, only that we compete

b) We are a bad team
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 08, 2020, 05:01:17 PM
We are a bad team

Do you want this team to stay bad?  Mike Maccagan handed out several huge contracts and this didn't get any better.

Joe Douglas did "compete" for Jack Conklin.  He didn't bend over like Maccagnan would have. 

You are being incredibly impatient about this.  He has a six year contract and asked for it because this mess will take a while to clean up.  Lets see how he drafts and how he handles free agency next offseason.

He put the Jets in a very good position to get good in a hurry.  We have several high draft picks and a ton of cap space.  That's ideal for a rebuilding team. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on September 08, 2020, 05:21:42 PM
Do you want this team to stay bad?  Mike Maccagan handed out several huge contracts and this didn't get any better.

Joe Douglas did "compete" for Jack Conklin.  He didn't bend over like Maccagnan would have. 

You are being incredibly impatient about this.  He has a six year contract and asked for it because this mess will take a while to clean up.  Lets see how he drafts and how he handles free agency next offseason.

He put the Jets in a very good position to get good in a hurry.  We have several high draft picks and a ton of cap space.  That's ideal for a rebuilding team. 

I'm not being impatient. I'm just expecting continued failure, the ruining of Sam Darnold, and the continued loss of any player we draft who is actually good, because that's what we've seen under Gase and Douglas so far. When either of them demonstrates an ability to actually do something good I'll be delighted to recognise it as such.

And before you say it, I don't recognise the return on the Adams trade as being a good move because although it was a good return, the message it sent was absolutely freaking atrocious and it should never have been allowed to happen. Good players will continue to treat the Jets as nothing but a payday and a stepping stone until this culture is fixed and so far Gase and Douglas are perpetuating it. Any player drafted by the Jets in the top three rounds will be disappointed that it's the Jets; any player drafted in the late rounds will probably be happy about it because it means they have more chance of playing time given the absolutely lack of premier talent.

This is going to be a excrement season with a excrement roster and excrement coaching and I see absolutely nothing to be positive about right now.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on September 08, 2020, 05:34:21 PM
I'm not being impatient. I'm just expecting continued failure, the ruining of Sam Darnold, and the continued loss of any player we draft who is actually good, because that's what we've seen under Gase and Douglas so far. When either of them demonstrates an ability to actually do something good I'll be delighted to recognise it as such.

And before you say it, I don't recognise the return on the Adams trade as being a good move because although it was a good return, the message it sent was absolutely freaking atrocious and it should never have been allowed to happen. Good players will continue to treat the Jets as nothing but a payday and a stepping stone until this culture is fixed and so far Gase and Douglas are perpetuating it. Any player drafted by the Jets in the top three rounds will be disappointed that it's the Jets; any player drafted in the late rounds will probably be happy about it because it means they have more chance of playing time given the absolutely lack of premier talent.

This is going to be a excrement season with a excrement roster and excrement coaching and I see absolutely nothing to be positive about right now.

Adams was acting like a bitch and I honestly don’t think JD would have traded him away for less than a kings ransom, which he got. The number of non QB players that got traded for 2 first round picks, a 3rd round pick and a starting caliber player can be counted on 1 hand in NFL history. That’s a far better deal than we deserved and definitely insanely better than we should have expected.

But setting that deal aside, the best way to change a culture is to win. As you know winning cures all ailments. If we won, then Adams wouldn’t have wanted out. But aside from basically Adams and Maye virtually every draft pick in the Maccagnan era was a disaster on the field. As such we couldn’t feel talented enough teams to win.


You know what else will help? Having a legitimately good coach. I am 100% in favor of replacing Gase. Hopefully we either win a super bowl this year or Fire Gase. If, as you and I both believe Gase will be sent packing after this year, the easiest way to bring new talent in for a new system is to have a good amount of cap space, which we will have next offseason.

As far as I’m concerned Douglas is making moves that give us a chance to be highly competitive in 2021 if things break right, and a playoff contender if things don’t all go our way.

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: dcm1602 on September 08, 2020, 09:18:35 PM
I'm fine with what Douglas has done.  Of course I'd like to have seen us get a few bigger-time players, but it doesn't make sense to overpay by a ton when we have so many holes.  I'd rather overpay when we need a piece to get deep in the post-season.  Right now just draft well, fill in holes with reasonable contract vets until draft picks take over roles. 

It's hard to be patient, but I think we will see some big spending next year when the starters start filling in with draft picks.  Plus who knows whether Gase is still here in 2021.  A coaching change will certainly affect things.

Conklin isn't worth $14 million per year.




Debatable

Prior to COVID we were seeing a huge swing in cap and contract valuation and unquestionably is a contract many if not all of us would have been happy with.

How good that contract is now, will be dictated by the cap for the next few years and COVIDs impact on it
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 08, 2020, 09:30:59 PM
I feel like the Adams interview with Mehta made the relationship untenable. He wanted to force his way  out and succeeded but Douglas held on u til he got what he wanted so both parties got the best of the ultimate situation.

As for the WRs, I still think letting a consistently healthy WR walk in favor of a notoriously injured one is a very risky, if not bad, call, especially if we only take one WR in the draft. I know next year is the deeper WR draft and we are now better set up for it but the important thing is keeping Darnold in the best environment possible. Nothing about Robbie's contract is prohibitive for letting him go next year in favor of better talent. If Perriman stays on the field then the gamble might work out but coming out of TC that doesn't seem so likely.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: insanity on September 08, 2020, 10:21:44 PM
Every dollar we have next year is basically worth 3 in purchasing power
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 09, 2020, 07:26:59 AM
Adams was acting like a bitch and I honestly don’t think JD would have traded him away for less than a kings ransom, which he got. The number of non QB players that got traded for 2 first round picks, a 3rd round pick and a starting caliber player can be counted on 1 hand in NFL history. That’s a far better deal than we deserved and definitely insanely better than we should have expected.

But setting that deal aside, the best way to change a culture is to win. As you know winning cures all ailments. If we won, then Adams wouldn’t have wanted out. But aside from basically Adams and Maye virtually every draft pick in the Maccagnan era was a disaster on the field. As such we couldn’t feel talented enough teams to win.


You know what else will help? Having a legitimately good coach. I am 100% in favor of replacing Gase. Hopefully we either win a super bowl this year or Fire Gase. If, as you and I both believe Gase will be sent packing after this year, the easiest way to bring new talent in for a new system is to have a good amount of cap space, which we will have next offseason.

As far as I’m concerned Douglas is making moves that give us a chance to be highly competitive in 2021 if things break right, and a playoff contender if things don’t all go our way.




This is where I am at as well.

Gase is complete trash and is walking cancer.

Joe D deserves more time to do his thing before we rush to judgement. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 09, 2020, 07:27:56 AM
Joe D was on WFAN this morning and dodged the "Why did you pull Manish's credentials?" question. Said there were a lot of people involved with the decision.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 09, 2020, 07:50:52 AM
Joe D was on WFAN this morning and dodged the "Why did you pull Manish's credentials?" question. Said there were a lot of people involved with the decision.

So it actually happens
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 09, 2020, 08:06:55 AM
So it actually happens

Affirmative
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 09, 2020, 08:08:12 AM
How is this MF'er still employed?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 09, 2020, 09:24:42 AM
How is this MF'er still employed?

How is the NYDN still employed?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Johnny English on September 09, 2020, 09:34:43 AM
How is this MF'er still employed?

How is the NYDN still employed?

At a guess, by virtue of the fact that Jets fans spend three times as much time discussing them and their output as all the other Jets beat writers combined.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 09, 2020, 10:04:37 AM
At a guess, by virtue of the fact that Jets fans spend three times as much time discussing them and their output as all the other Jets beat writers combined.

Be that as it may, you'd think they'd eventually want to employ a beat writer that has the access that any beat writer is expected to have. Not to mention one with a modicum of integrity.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 09, 2020, 10:07:06 AM
Be that as it may, you'd think they'd eventually want to employ a beat writer that has the access that any beat writer is expected to have. Not to mention one with a modicum of integrity.

Charles McDonald has been covering the team for NYDN.

He is a gigantic player of the pink oboe but he knows football. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 09, 2020, 09:39:21 PM
Manish was a really good reporter when he was with the Star Ledger. Everyone, including all the beat writers, congratulated him when he got the NYDN job.

The Daily News has been in trouble for a long time. There have been a few rounds of layoffs, and the rumors have been rampant that management was pushing reporters to run clickbait headlines to drive ad-supported traffic online.

I'm not absolving Manish of any of his wrongdoing, but I wouldn't be the least surprised if he had been heavily pressured to do whatever it took to get insider info for stories. If so, he's not going to be fired because then he's under no obligation to keep his mouth shut.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on September 10, 2020, 05:47:47 AM
Manish was a really good reporter when he was with the Star Ledger. Everyone, including all the beat writers, congratulated him when he got the NYDN job.

The Daily News has been in trouble for a long time. There have been a few rounds of layoffs, and the rumors have been rampant that management was pushing reporters to run clickbait headlines to drive ad-supported traffic online.

I'm not absolving Manish of any of his wrongdoing, but I wouldn't be the least surprised if he had been heavily pressured to do whatever it took to get insider info for stories. If so, he's not going to be fired because then he's under no obligation to keep his mouth shut.

He might not get fired but he will get reassigned at some point. NYDN isn’t going to have a guy running the beat that can’t get access to facilities. Unless Manish is able to really “step up” (read muck up) his articles so much that he gets even more clicks than ever before. I have to imagine that falls away eventually without access
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: dcm1602 on September 10, 2020, 07:17:55 AM
They'll keep Manish employed as long as he makes them money.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: bojanglesman on September 10, 2020, 07:51:25 AM
They'll keep Manish employed as long as he makes them money.
Bingo
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 10, 2020, 08:32:33 AM
Dumbass Jets fans continually talking about Manish and keeping him relevant

Mods, delete this thread
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Badger on September 10, 2020, 09:29:49 AM
Dumbass Jets fans continually talking about Manish and keeping him relevant

Mods, delete this thread
You're a mod.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 10, 2020, 10:14:39 AM
You're a mod.

Mods, ban this malfeasant
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: MBGreen on September 10, 2020, 02:34:04 PM
Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
·
7m
A typo, of course. Live tweeting a zoom call a little trickier than regurgitating what others have already tweeted.


lulz
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 10, 2020, 03:46:43 PM
Hahaha
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 16, 2020, 05:28:49 PM
https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1306352985618997248?s=20

LOOOOOOOL
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 16, 2020, 05:30:06 PM
https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1306359358650036225?s=20

Connor chimes in
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Heismanberg on September 16, 2020, 05:46:45 PM
https://twitter.com/MikeVacc/status/1306361392967094274?s=20

amazing
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on September 16, 2020, 06:46:57 PM
I really wish somebody would just publicly spill the beans.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 16, 2020, 06:55:11 PM
Beautiful. Fire this dude, already.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: casman02 on September 16, 2020, 07:07:33 PM
This is much better than discussing the actual Jets
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 16, 2020, 07:09:59 PM
Best part is how Manish pretends he doesn’t see everyone roasting him

Just gonna tweet right through it
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: Libero_2 on September 16, 2020, 07:27:21 PM
Best part is how Manish pretends he doesn’t see everyone roasting him

Just gonna tweet right through it

He might not. He went on a massive blocking spree when his creds were pulled and has continued to do so with basically anyone that mentions the topic to him.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 16, 2020, 10:20:37 PM
He might not. He went on a massive blocking spree when his creds were pulled and has continued to do so with basically anyone that mentions the topic to him.

Do your part and send him screenshots
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 16, 2020, 10:24:44 PM
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It was also over much, much more than a burner account. Manish did some pretty screwed up stuff. Including harassing Joe Douglas’ child at a baseball game.

https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1306365988393320449?s=21

EXTEND DCM!

I NEVER DOUBTED HIM
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 16, 2020, 10:36:41 PM
Isn’t Joe Douglas kid like 8 years old?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 16, 2020, 10:45:33 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/evanrobertswfan/status/952972235094052864?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eios%7Ctwgr%5Eother



Haaaaaaaaa

The first post in this thread. Manish had been clowning for far longer but I felt it finally had to be addressed.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ErxGuBUHPSU

4:00
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 16, 2020, 11:00:00 PM
The first post in this thread. Manish had been clowning for far longer but I felt it finally had to be addressed.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ErxGuBUHPSU

4:00

At 15:00 Manish says “Lamar Jackson will not be a good QB in the NFL” and extrapolates
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MexJetinBcn on September 17, 2020, 02:34:23 AM
DCM is da boss. People are going crazy asking for reasons and we have them all right 😂
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2020, 08:27:59 AM
DCM! DCM! DCM!
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on September 17, 2020, 08:28:44 AM
We are making dcm a mod
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MBGreen on September 17, 2020, 08:29:46 AM
We are making dcm a mod

Oh excrement...you thought i was serious?

I suppose we can put him in charge of the JO salary cap
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on September 17, 2020, 08:30:47 AM
dcm will fix Tapatalk
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MBGreen on September 17, 2020, 08:34:09 AM
dcm will fix Tapatalk

I already hurt JE's feelings with that one. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2020, 08:46:40 AM
https://twitter.com/mipod69/status/1306427143115636742?s=21
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2020, 08:48:35 AM
https://twitter.com/mipod69/status/1306427143115636742?s=21

https://twitter.com/jetstank/status/1306433973900505090?s=21

https://twitter.com/jpens4real21/status/1306434601615855616?s=21

https://twitter.com/tony_cang/status/1306547095621505024?s=21
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on September 17, 2020, 08:49:11 AM
https://twitter.com/mipod69/status/1306427143115636742?s=21

Not Manish related, but when we were at YDKF, I said something to Evan Silva (formerly of Rotoworld) on Twitter and he DM'd me a link to our forum where I called him a "fat ginger"

I have the receipts

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2020, 08:55:04 AM
Not Manish related, but when we were at YDKF, I said something to Evan Silva (formerly of Rotoworld) on Twitter and he DM'd me a link to our forum where I called him a "fat ginger"

I have the receipts



How is that possible that he found that? Reeks of insecurity.

He was who I hated before I moved on to Ben Allbright.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Johnny English on September 17, 2020, 08:58:03 AM
Not Manish related, but when we were at YDKF, I said something to Evan Silva (formerly of Rotoworld) on Twitter and he DM'd me a link to our forum where I called him a "fat ginger"

I have the receipts



I would be interested to see evidence from him that he isn't a fat ginger, although I don't entirely believe you as I'm fairly sure the words "Patriot-loving" and "bundle of sticks" would have been involved also.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on September 17, 2020, 09:02:44 AM
I would be interested to see evidence from him that he isn't a fat ginger, although I don't entirely believe you as I'm fairly sure the words "Patriot-loving" and "bundle of sticks" would have been involved also.

Those insults were also included
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on September 17, 2020, 09:03:07 AM
How is that possible that he found that? Reeks of insecurity.

He was who I hated before I moved on to Ben Allbright.

No one can convince me that Allbright is not a pedo. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Johnny English on September 17, 2020, 09:06:52 AM
Those insults were also included

Not insults if they're statements of fact.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: insanity on September 17, 2020, 11:14:29 AM
https://twitter.com/jetstank/status/1306433973900505090?s=21

https://twitter.com/jpens4real21/status/1306434601615855616?s=21

https://twitter.com/tony_cang/status/1306547095621505024?s=21
Manish is a lady garden, but this is stupid. 
Just people bragging in hindsight to makethemselves feel smart.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 27, 2020, 08:56:49 AM
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Jets roster management has been awful through 3 weeks.

Amateurish.

They need players who can help Sam Darnold.

Yet they will be carrying 4 QBs on the roster for a third consecutive week.

Who does that?

- Doesn’t Miss Mehta
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: insanity on September 27, 2020, 09:21:55 AM
- Doesn’t Miss Mehta
I mean he sort of has a point but one is on the practice squad
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 27, 2020, 09:26:19 AM
I mean he sort of has a point but one is on the practice squad

We’ve activated WRs from the practice squad for every game and David Fales is worthless

Edit: Mike White but same thing

We’re dressing 4 QBs today
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 27, 2020, 10:06:22 AM
We’ve activated WRs from the practice squad for every game and David Fales is worthless

Edit: Mike White but same thing

We’re dressing 4 QBs today

If Flacco is getting full practices in we'll probably cut White soon.

Until Flacco's neck flares up again.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 27, 2020, 12:18:40 PM
Another reason taking a QB in the 4th round mde little sense. You draft him to be the longterm backup yet they don't trust him to be the backup.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 02, 2020, 02:46:54 PM
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Sam Darnold is a genuinely good person. He wants to believe in the people around him... even if at least one of them says some pretty unfortunate things about him behind the scenes when he struggles. 

He deserves better.

Manish

That’s gotta be directed at Costello and Hughes and what Gase says to the beat to direct their coverage. It’s easily apparent within their tweets/headlines
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 02, 2020, 04:07:21 PM
gase is talking excrement about sam behind the scenes?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 02, 2020, 04:15:14 PM
gase is talking excrement about sam behind the scenes?

What do you think Gase said to Chris Johnson that was enough to get the freaking GM that hired him a few months earlier fired?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Johnny English on October 13, 2020, 08:39:19 PM
It's funny how Manish with no press credentials is still scooping the sycophants on the beat. He was right about Gase from the outset and he's continuing to be proven right.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 13, 2020, 08:40:10 PM
It's funny how Manish with no press credentials is still scooping the sycophants on the beat. He was right about Gase from the outset and he's continuing to be proven right.
He was right about Gase from the outset? Are you sure about that?
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sports-adam-gase-dolphins-jets-coaching-search-20190109-story.html
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Johnny English on October 13, 2020, 08:48:51 PM
He was right about Gase from the outset? Are you sure about that?
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sports-adam-gase-dolphins-jets-coaching-search-20190109-story.html

Well, relatively speaking. He wasn't as prescient as me, but he was there well ahead of his derriere kissing colleagues.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 13, 2020, 10:19:14 PM
It's funny how Manish with no press credentials is still scooping the sycophants on the beat. He was right about Gase from the outset and he's continuing to be proven right.

https://twitter.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1316211815114776576?s=21

lmaooo
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Libero_2 on October 14, 2020, 06:07:31 AM
https://twitter.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1316211815114776576?s=21

lmaooo

Costellos comment “I had to go too, it’s alright” haha
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MBGreen on October 14, 2020, 11:21:08 AM
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Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN
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1m
Adam Gase on the perception that he misused Le'Veon Bell:

"It's irrelevant at this point.... It didn't work out."

Like it didn't work out for Ryan Tannehill, Mike Gesicki, DeVante Parker, Robby Anderson, Kenyan Drake, Damien Williams, etc.

#TakeFlight


Boom


Headshot
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 14, 2020, 11:24:52 AM
It’s actually very relevant. Where does this fucktard think the issue with Bell stems from?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MBGreen on October 14, 2020, 11:31:23 AM
It’s actually very relevant. Where does this fucktard think the issue with Bell stems from?

Imagine giving a player a 4 yr deal worth 52 mil w/ 27 mil guaranteed....and calling his misuse "irrelevant" because of your own incompetence.


the buffoonery from this franchise knows no bounds.


Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Miamipuck on October 14, 2020, 11:38:40 AM
God I can't wait,

ANyone: " What's your take on Gase?"

Puck: "It's irrelevant at this point! He's fired"
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on October 14, 2020, 11:41:39 AM
Imagine giving a player a 4 yr deal worth 52 mil w/ 27 mil guaranteed....and calling his misuse "irrelevant" because of your own incompetence.

Misuse is a narrative created by moronic press.  Bell wasn't that good.  We didn't use him in the slot because we have a good slot receiver.  He certainly could've been used in the passing game more, but Bell just isn't a great player anymore.

And again, the current regime did not give Bell that contract so that actually is irrelevant. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 14, 2020, 11:51:09 AM
Misuse is a narrative created by moronic press.  Bell wasn't that good.  We didn't use him in the slot because we have a good slot receiver.  He certainly could've been used in the passing game more, but Bell just isn't a great player anymore.

And again, the current regime did not give Bell that contract so that actually is irrelevant. 

Let’s see if anyone picks him up.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 14, 2020, 01:53:34 PM
Misuse is a narrative created by moronic press.  Bell wasn't that good.  We didn't use him in the slot because we have a good slot receiver.  He certainly could've been used in the passing game more, but Bell just isn't a great player anymore.

And again, the current regime did not give Bell that contract so that actually is irrelevant. 

But what if he is?

I respect your opinions a ton, and I certainly think you're a lot better at being levelheaded than some of us, but players have been complaining about Gase for years. I know you've written them off as scrubs and/or malcontents, but where there's smoke there's usually fire.

Other than Peyton Manning, everything Gase touches turns to garbage
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Miamipuck on October 14, 2020, 02:08:58 PM
But what if he is?

I respect your opinions a ton, and I certainly think you're a lot better at being levelheaded than some of us, but players have been complaining about Gase for years. I know you've written them off as scrubs and/or malcontents, but where there's smoke there's usually fire.

Other than Peyton Manning, everything Gase touches turns to garbage

Gase didn't touch Peyton, Peyton touched Gase. Peyton sodomized Gase to make a special treat for Jets fans.




Thanks a lot Peyton!


For the record Pyton sodomozed the Johnsons and us by default. freak Peyton, he should be arrested on sodomy and molestation charges.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 14, 2020, 02:17:35 PM
Gase didn't touch Peyton, Peyton touched Gase. Peyton sodomized Gase to make a special treat for Jets fans.




Thanks a lot Peyton!


For the record Pyton sodomozed the Johnsons and us by default. freak Peyton, he should be arrested on sodomy and molestation charges.

I didn't need more reasons to despise Peyton Manning

And yet, here we are
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 14, 2020, 02:28:03 PM
I didn't need more reasons to despise Peyton Manning

And yet, here we are

I’m never getting Nationwide insurance.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 14, 2020, 02:37:59 PM
I’m never getting Nationwide insurance.

The State Farm commercials are so bad I hate Aaron Rodgers and Chris Paul now.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 14, 2020, 02:41:29 PM
The State Farm commercials are so bad I hate Aaron Rodgers and Chris Paul now.

The Progressive commercials with Baker Mayfield are infinitely worse
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 14, 2020, 03:02:34 PM
i think i may have said this in the game thread the other day but hearing about the peyton manning - adam gase 'link' is so fcking annoying and not in tune with reality

manning was a HOFer both before and after gase. gase did not coach manning, manning coached gase and gase has been able to mooch off of this his entire 'head coach'-ing career
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: IATA on October 14, 2020, 03:19:23 PM
The Progressive commercials with Baker Mayfield are infinitely worse

if we both do it we'll cut the time in half!
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: IATA on October 14, 2020, 03:21:13 PM
i think i may have said this in the game thread the other day but hearing about the peyton manning - adam gase 'link' is so fcking annoying and not in tune with reality

manning was a HOFer both before and after gase. gase did not coach manning, manning coached gase and gase has been able to mooch off of this his entire 'head coach'-ing career

right??!

what did gase do? payton called his own plays, didnt he?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: loyaljetsfan on October 14, 2020, 03:47:04 PM
The only thing Gase was successful at is fooling two excrement franchises into thinking he was the answer at head coach because he held Manning's jock strap during his career year.

He's a pompous piece of excrement, and I hope he never works in the league again.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 14, 2020, 03:59:11 PM
The only thing Gase was successful at is fooling two excrement franchises into thinking he was the answer at head coach because he held Manning's jock strap during his career year.

He's a pompous piece of excrement, and I hope he never works in the league again.

I hope he works in New England or Buffalo.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Libero_2 on October 14, 2020, 05:04:36 PM
I hope he works in New England or Buffalo.

I don’t think Gase gets another gig. He’s too pompous to be a position coach and I can’t see anyone valuing him as a HC or even an OC right now.

But I would love to see Dowell Loggains get a gig with the Bulls after Daboll becomes a HC somewhere this offseason.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: IATA on October 14, 2020, 06:24:06 PM
I hope he works in New England or Buffalo.
I'm sure now that his massage spa is excrement down, Kraft could use another fluffer

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MBGreen on October 30, 2020, 10:01:07 AM
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-leveon-bell-coach-20201030-nee46jnhanew7hlupfs2qrrbiy-story.html


<3 Todd Haley
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 30, 2020, 10:09:26 AM
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-leveon-bell-coach-20201030-nee46jnhanew7hlupfs2qrrbiy-story.html


<3 Todd Haley

1. Adam Gase has no idea how to call a running game (or a passing game for that matter).

2. Bell's running style relies heavily on vision and patience which requires the offense to set their blocks and hold them, something our guards have never been able to do while Bell was here (and still can't).

His role is pretty much set as a change of pace back but I expect him to do some damage against this defense because, well, this defense kinda sucks.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 01, 2020, 09:21:44 PM
No credentials, all of the scoops
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 01, 2020, 09:26:32 PM
Who is his source? Gase and Douglas hate him... where’s the rat?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: bojanglesman on November 01, 2020, 09:27:04 PM
Who is his source? Gase and Douglas hate him... where’s the rat?
Who is Avery's agent?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 01, 2020, 09:29:12 PM
Who is his source? Gase and Douglas hate him... where’s the rat?

Wouldn't it be amazing if it was Johnson?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Libero_2 on November 01, 2020, 09:31:38 PM
Looks like a 2022 5th for Williamson and a 2022 7th.

I think Douglas sees the liklihood this draft season may be a bit of a crap shoot with the craziness of Covid impacting the evaluation process, it seems deliberate that we are trying to get 2022 picks
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MexJetinBcn on November 02, 2020, 03:37:38 AM
No credentials, all of the scoops

Maybe this one came from the league and not the team.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: insanity on November 02, 2020, 06:48:29 AM
Looks like a 2022 5th for Williamson and a 2022 7th.

I think Douglas sees the liklihood this draft season may be a bit of a crap shoot with the craziness of Covid impacting the evaluation process, it seems deliberate that we are trying to get 2022 picks
Sounds like we swapped picks
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MBGreen on November 02, 2020, 06:48:38 AM
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-adam-gase-20201102-zggy5x7zarcmxeejgiaqs7wbja-story.html


A fun article from Manish basically asking Gase how Manish's derriere tastes
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 02, 2020, 07:45:07 AM
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-adam-gase-20201102-zggy5x7zarcmxeejgiaqs7wbja-story.html


A fun article from Manish basically asking Gase how Manish's derriere tastes

That was amusing. "Bizzaro Einstein"
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Rosetta Stoned on November 02, 2020, 08:15:45 AM
Why are we so interested in two retards slinging excrement at each other?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 02, 2020, 08:18:36 AM
Why are we so interested in two retards slinging excrement at each other?

No idea
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MBGreen on November 02, 2020, 08:24:29 AM
Why are we so interested in two retards slinging excrement at each other?

Because it's hilarious.  Lighten up Francis.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Badger on November 02, 2020, 08:27:14 AM
Why are we so interested in two retards slinging excrement at each other?
Isn't that what this forum often is?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MBGreen on November 02, 2020, 08:30:00 AM
Isn't that what this forum often is?

it should be on our JO website masthead.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: insanity on November 02, 2020, 08:36:22 AM
Because it's hilarious.  Lighten up Francis.
Quality reference.  2 points to MBGreen
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 03, 2020, 01:50:13 PM
Manish says we're trying to trade Jordan Jenkins and Chris Herndon
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MBGreen on November 03, 2020, 01:50:34 PM
Manish says we're trying to trade Jordan Jenkins and Chris Herndon

trade everyone, fam.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: bojanglesman on November 03, 2020, 01:52:08 PM
trade everyone, fam.
Chris Herndon traded for a conditional 8th round pine cone.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 03, 2020, 01:55:38 PM
I'm perfectly OK with trading Jenkins. Herndon I think could be useful under a new coach.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 03, 2020, 02:04:52 PM
Herndon I think could be useful under a new coach.

Herndon is awful
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Badger on November 03, 2020, 02:25:48 PM
I'm perfectly OK with trading Jenkins. Herndon I think could be useful under a new coach.
I was thinking the opposite.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Libero_2 on November 03, 2020, 02:31:15 PM
If we haven’t gotten anything done yet with about 31 minutes to the deadline, I’d wager we don’t.

As for either Herndon or Jenkins neithers  play warrants a draft pick But hopefully we can pull off a Jenkins trade as it would also open up more time for Zuniga
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Johnny English on November 03, 2020, 02:32:41 PM
Herndon was previously good, then Gase came along and installed his magic scheme and coaching methodology. Herndon didn't just forget how to be a good football player, so it stands to reason that someone capable of being an NFL coach would be able to recover that ability.

I don't know why there's this obsession with trading useful pieces for excrement picks. We're going to have to replace every player we trade, and a 2022 6th round pick isn't going to help us with doing that.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 03, 2020, 02:36:02 PM
Herndon was previously good, then Gase came along and installed his magic scheme and coaching methodology. Herndon didn't just forget how to be a good football player, so it stands to reason that someone capable of being an NFL coach would be able to recover that ability.

I don't know why there's this obsession with trading useful pieces for excrement picks. We're going to have to replace every player we trade, and a 2022 6th round pick isn't going to help us with doing that.

Adam Gase has nothing to do with Chris Herndon fumbling and dropping footballs. 

He had a solid rookie season, did absolutely nothing last year due to injuries, and is awful this year.  Calling him "useful" is a major reach. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 03, 2020, 02:37:00 PM
Herndon didn't just forget how to be a good football player.
This is such a stupid argument for the reasons Heismanberg said and more.

Quote
I don't know why there's this obsession with trading useful pieces for excrement picks. We're going to have to replace every player we trade, and a 2022 6th round pick isn't going to help us with doing that.

1. Herndon isn't useful, and we need to replace him anyway because he sucks.
2. Jenkins is an FA after the year and we need to replace him anyway.

You can make a case to keep Herndon and see what he can do under another coach. You can also make a case we should just cut Herndon because he's been that bad, and if he didn't have a decent season in 2018, he would have already been cut.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 03, 2020, 02:40:12 PM
Adam Gase has nothing to do with Chris Herndon fumbling and dropping footballs. 

He had a solid rookie season, did absolutely nothing last year due to injuries, and is awful this year.  Calling him "useful" is a major reach. 
Don't forget his DUI either. Last 2 seasons, he has more arrests than touchdowns.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 03, 2020, 02:40:40 PM
Herndon fumbles the football every 7 touches.  He belongs on the bench. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Libero_2 on November 03, 2020, 02:43:51 PM
Herndon fumbles the football every 7 touches.  He belongs on the bench. 

Which is why I can’t figure out why a team would trade for him.

freak it send him to Green Bay for their first
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: bojanglesman on November 03, 2020, 03:03:56 PM
Which is why I can’t figure out why a team would trade for him.

They won't
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Libero_2 on November 03, 2020, 03:09:26 PM
Sure seems that the deadline has passed with no news.

I’m a little sad we only were able to trade Williamson
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MBGreen on November 03, 2020, 03:10:26 PM
Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
·
4m
The deadline has passed. No deals for Trader Joe, will be speaking to the media at 4:30. #Jets
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 03, 2020, 03:10:32 PM
We didn't have anyone else worth anything. 

And we obviously weren't trading Quinnen Williams.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 03, 2020, 04:15:18 PM
Regarding the Herndon rumors.

https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1323747434246381580

Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
Should really consider who you listen to.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 03, 2020, 04:23:49 PM
At this point I consider Manish's "scoops" to be worth as much as any other post on this board. But if I'm going to bother to read the thread I guess I might as well engage in the hyptheticals.

Speaking of which, despite being completely irrelevant now, I think we've seen everything we need to Jenkins to know that he is pretty much a halfway decent rotational player who is better against the run than the pass. I think Huff and Basham make him completely expendable and if we could have gotten something for him I would have been happy.

Herndon is having a dogshit season this year but I think he can be better than absolute trash under a new staff. You can fix fumbling so long as he isn't completely done, mentally. However, if we did wind up trading it wouldn't have been a great loss.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 03, 2020, 04:32:22 PM
Herndon could be better than he's played, but he's played awful. If anyone had given us a pick, it would've been worth taking.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 03, 2020, 05:03:13 PM
https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1323747458409783302?s=20

lol
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 03, 2020, 05:10:41 PM
https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1323747458409783302?s=20

lol

Like I said, Manish should just start posting here. It’d be about as impactful.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: reuben on November 03, 2020, 06:00:23 PM
https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1323747458409783302?s=20

lol

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Ralph Vacchiano
@RVacchianoSNY
·
2h
Jets GM Joe Douglas had a little regret about letting WR Robby Anderson get away last offseason. He said they thought his value would lead to a bigger contract than he got. "That’s on me. Honestly, we would all love to see Robby here doing what he’s doing.”

Well he owns it, at least.  It's kind of strange that Douglas under and overvalued Robby at the same time but it is what it is. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Laxin on November 03, 2020, 06:08:23 PM
Well he owns it, at least.  It's kind of strange that Douglas under and overvalued Robby at the same time but it is what it is.

Did they just not offer him anything then?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: bojanglesman on November 07, 2020, 06:45:47 AM
Manish going all in.

EXCLUSIVE: Jets players alert NFLPA about hidden cameras in locker room, per sources.

Story: https://t.co/Q1RoEXmINh #TakeFlight https://t.co/t3NeNN4EPL
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Libero_2 on November 07, 2020, 06:51:25 AM
Manish going all in.

EXCLUSIVE: Jets players alert NFLPA about hidden cameras in locker room, per sources.

Story: https://t.co/Q1RoEXmINh #TakeFlight https://t.co/t3NeNN4EPL

What would even be the point of that if it’s true?

Secondly: if it has been going on since 08 (which I doubt) where the freak is the video of Ik knocking Geno’s teeth in?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: bojanglesman on November 07, 2020, 06:55:46 AM
What would even be the point of that if it’s true?

Secondly: if it has been going on since 08 (which I doubt) where the freak is the video of Ik knocking Geno’s teeth in?
The point of the cameras or the story?

The cameras would be there for security on the Jets end.  The point of the story is that there may be hidden cameras where dude's weiners are hanging out.  Who knows.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Libero_2 on November 07, 2020, 09:51:40 AM
The point of the cameras or the story?

The cameras would be there for security on the Jets end.  The point of the story is that there may be hidden cameras where dude's weiners are hanging out.  Who knows.


I meant for the cameras. And I don’t think that’s a thing that makes enough sense to both put camera in smoke detectors/hidden locations and then not tell anyone about it. Based on the article it’s clearly not standard practice across the league

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Johnny English on November 07, 2020, 09:56:01 AM
I heard it was because when the players were are training someone used to go through the pockets of their pants and steal change and so they installed the cameras and that's why Jim Leonhard wasn't re-signed.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 10, 2020, 10:55:47 AM
https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1326169251716214785?s=21

This guy is so good at his job
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 10, 2020, 11:05:21 AM
https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1326169251716214785?s=21

This guy is so good at his job
That play is a perfect example of why playcalling is overrated though.

Flacco had at least one guy wide open on that play, but he just chucked it deep into double coverage anyway. If he checks down and gets an easy 20-yard completion, it looks like a great call. Instead, it looks like a terrible call.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 10, 2020, 11:15:32 AM
That play is a perfect example of why playcalling is overrated though.

Flacco had at least one guy wide open on that play, but he just chucked it deep into double coverage anyway. If he checks down and gets an easy 20-yard completion, it looks like a great call. Instead, it looks like a terrible call.

I meant Manish, not Gase

And I disagree
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 10, 2020, 12:02:53 PM
How does Manish know that Gase called the play? 

Who is the snitch? 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Libero_2 on November 10, 2020, 12:09:44 PM
How does Manish know that Gase called the play? 

Who is the snitch? 

Or is Manish just making excrement up?

Also why the freak does it matter? I am willing to bet that Gase has called / strongly suggested some plays to Loggains ever since he took over calls before. The deep shot had been working, and frankly if Mims somehow ends up with that ball, it's a death knell to the Pats. I have no issue with the call. I have an issue with Flacco choosing to throw it to Mims instead of Griffin because he didn't read the field/situation.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: bojanglesman on November 10, 2020, 12:21:05 PM
How does Manish know that Gase called the play? 

Who is the snitch?
Plot twist. Manish has flipped Gase to an informant.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Badger on November 10, 2020, 01:20:49 PM
How does Manish know that Gase called the play? 

Who is the snitch?
Dawdle Largegrams
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Gorilla on November 10, 2020, 01:24:49 PM
Dawdle Largegrams

Doodle Lipgainz
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 25, 2020, 07:47:16 AM
Charles McDonald left the NYDN this week to go work for USA Today and he is absolutely wrecking Manish on Twitter
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 25, 2020, 09:33:11 AM
Charles McDonald left the NYDN this week to go work for USA Today and he is absolutely wrecking Manish on Twitter

Relevant.

https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1331593339548930048?s=19 (https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1331593339548930048?s=19)
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 25, 2020, 10:30:55 AM
https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1331629227167387654?s=20

LOL
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 25, 2020, 10:32:35 AM
https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1331603494122426369

elite thread
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: bojanglesman on November 25, 2020, 10:40:02 AM
https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1331603494122426369

elite thread

Quote
More Manish stories: He told Joe Douglas at the Senior Bowl that he’d give preferential coverage if he agreed to talk & be his source. He said he was writing a story on his time in Philly. If JD talked he would blame it on Howie. If he didn’t he’d out JD. JD told him to freak off.

lol
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 25, 2020, 10:43:29 AM
Give JD a lifetime extension
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 25, 2020, 11:01:10 AM
https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1331637934802554880?s=20

more
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MBGreen on November 25, 2020, 11:01:11 AM
That should do it for Manish...can't see how he doesn't get fired over being exposed.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 25, 2020, 11:02:26 AM
That should do it for Manish...can't see how he doesn't get fired over being exposed.

Chuck McDonald deserved that NYJ beat job at NYDN and they stuck with Manish.  I'm glad he fucked them over and left for a better job.

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 25, 2020, 11:07:08 AM
Chuck McDonald deserved that NYJ beat job at NYDN and they stuck with Manish.  I'm glad he fucked them over and left for a better job.


Agreed. Happy for Charles, and I'm happy for Jets Twitter that he's ballsy enough to expose some of this stuff publicly.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MBGreen on November 25, 2020, 11:08:12 AM
Chuck McDonald deserved that NYJ beat job at NYDN and they stuck with Manish.  I'm glad he fucked them over and left for a better job.



i hope Manish eats a excrement sandwich over this
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Johnny English on November 25, 2020, 11:17:38 AM
That should do it for Manish...can't see how he doesn't get fired over being exposed.

Why? It's not like this is news to his boss, or that it's suddenly going to turn fans against someone they already hate.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 25, 2020, 11:18:29 AM
Why? It's not like this is news to his boss, or that it's suddenly going to turn fans against someone they already hate.

Maybe if it somehow affects their money.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 25, 2020, 11:20:54 AM
Why? It's not like this is news to his boss, or that it's suddenly going to turn fans against someone they already hate.

There are several big named sports writers commenting on this.  It's a very bad look for them. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Johnny English on November 25, 2020, 11:27:22 AM
There are several big named sports writers commenting on this.  It's a very bad look for them. 

Right, but it's nothing that wasn't already known by a) his bosses or b) most of the online Jets community. It's at best a confirmation and collation of previous stories.

He continues to get clicks and continues to run stories that people lap up (and which are often at least in part correct and ahead of anything from writers more concerned about staying on the team's good side). Organisations tend to be reluctant to fire people who make them money, as you know from first hand experience with what you're seeing at work right now. I don't see why this changes anything with Manish.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 25, 2020, 11:38:46 AM
Right, but it's nothing that wasn't already known by a) his bosses or b) most of the online Jets community. It's at best a confirmation and collation of previous stories.

He continues to get clicks and continues to run stories that people lap up (and which are often at least in part correct and ahead of anything from writers more concerned about staying on the team's good side). Organisations tend to be reluctant to fire people who make them money, as you know from first hand experience with what you're seeing at work right now. I don't see why this changes anything with Manish.
Mostly agree with this. It puts more heat on Manish, but nothing will happen imminently.

I don't know how much money he's making, but considering media layoffs, they might eventually use this as a reason why to lay him off eventually.

That said, I would hope for a better journalistic standard than "at least in part correct."
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: bojanglesman on November 25, 2020, 11:41:25 AM
Right, but it's nothing that wasn't already known by a) his bosses or b) most of the online Jets community. It's at best a confirmation and collation of previous stories.

He continues to get clicks and continues to run stories that people lap up (and which are often at least in part correct and ahead of anything from writers more concerned about staying on the team's good side). Organisations tend to be reluctant to fire people who make them money, as you know from first hand experience with what you're seeing at work right now. I don't see why this changes anything with Manish.

This should be extremely embarrassing to Manish, but he doesn't seem to be phased by that too much.  Regarding the NYDN, it depends on how much they care about being seen as a legit news organization.  If they just care about clicks and are OK with basically being the National Enquirer, it won't change anything, you are right.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Johnny English on November 25, 2020, 11:45:59 AM
Mostly agree with this. It puts more heat on Manish, but nothing will happen imminently.

I don't know how much money he's making, but considering media layoffs, they might eventually use this as a reason why to lay him off eventually.

That said, I would hope for a better journalistic standard than "at least in part correct."

If you want higher journalistic standards then you might be looking for The Athletic. Tabloid journalism has always been about selling papers, or these days encouraging clicks, with sensationalist and sometimes tenuous headlines. I think that if you're looking for the NYDN or any other tabloid to improve its journalistic standards you might be setting yourself up for disappointment.

Again, that doesn't mean they're always wrong. They'd just rather be first with a rumour that might be true than second with a story that definitely is.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 25, 2020, 02:58:21 PM
This story is trending nationally on Twitter.

Just wow.

As for why Manish still has a job, I've said this before, his editor had to have been in on it. That someone's else's work was being passed off as Manish's only reinforces my belief.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Johnny English on November 25, 2020, 03:01:09 PM
This story is trending nationally on Twitter.

Just wow.

As for why Manish still has a job, I've said this before, his editor had to have been in on it. That someone's else's work was being passed off as Manish's only reinforces my belief.

Because it's the exact same mentality of people who hate Trump following him on Twitter. "WAAAAAAAAH LOOK WHAT TRUMP/MANISH WROTE NOW! HERE! LOOK AT THIS EVERYBODY! WHAT A freaking IDIOT!"

Doesn't matter. Got follows and clicks. If you want to make these people go away, stop giving them what they want.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Miamipuck on November 25, 2020, 03:25:49 PM
The NYDN depends on clicks and advertising, they're not going to get rid of a guy that gets both because he's a freaking slimeball.

 I have seen it in every walk of life, I have worked with people that have to be seen to be believed if I told you the stories you guys would think I was lying. The more revenue a person creates for an organization is in direct relationship to how big of a scumbag they can be. I mean in some respects the business world has changed, the tolerance is certainly less for that type of behavior but the relationship still stands.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: bojanglesman on November 25, 2020, 03:28:00 PM
The NYDN depends on clicks and advertising, they're not going to get rid of a guy that gets both because he's a freaking slimeball.

 I have seen it in every walk of life, the more revenue a person creates for an organization is a direct relationship to how big of a scumbag they can be. I mean in some respects the business world has changed, the tolerance is certainly less for that type of behavior but the relationship still stands.

I mean, look at Puck.  He's the biggest poopchute ever, but he gives elite eye contact during his blowjobs to homeless dudes out behind Jerry's Scrap Metal Shop.  That's why they haven't called the cops on him yet.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Miamipuck on November 25, 2020, 03:28:52 PM
I mean, look at Puck.  He's the biggest poopchute ever, but he gives elite eye contact during his blowjobs to homeless dudes out behind Jerry's Scrap Metal Shop.  That's why they haven't called the cops on him yet.

Jerry's is your backyard dude, you asked for exclusive rights.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 25, 2020, 03:49:53 PM
https://twitter.com/NYJ_Matt/status/1331708672649605121?s=20

LMAO
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 25, 2020, 03:50:43 PM
https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1331702461124407296?s=20

oh excrement, Awful Announcing got a hold of it
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: d sw0rdz on November 25, 2020, 03:58:07 PM
https://twitter.com/NYJ_Matt/status/1331708672649605121?s=20

LMAO

so fvcking creepy lmaooo
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Badger on November 25, 2020, 04:29:50 PM
https://twitter.com/NYJ_Matt/status/1331708672649605121?s=20

LMAO
This is why we can't have nice things
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 25, 2020, 04:32:59 PM
https://twitter.com/NYJ_Matt/status/1331708672649605121?s=20

LMAO

Wtf man
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: d sw0rdz on November 25, 2020, 04:33:16 PM
This is why we can't have nice things

'hey joe, sooo.....i can see your son.....licking some mint chocolate chip ice cream right now. you sure there isn't anything you want to talk to me about?'
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 25, 2020, 04:33:36 PM
Manish got his own thread?


terrible.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MBGreen on November 25, 2020, 04:56:35 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201125/52b4b5dbdf061053e974ee6bb030b3ee.jpg)
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Libero_2 on November 25, 2020, 05:27:17 PM
freak Manish for so many things. I am so glad that finally someone spoke up and put this out there. I am certain he is not the only guy to do crazy excrement to get stories and clicks/follows or whatever. But he definitely took it to a whole nother level, and I am glad he is blackballed from the NFL now.

Part of me wishes more of this excrement comes out, because it's A. hilarious and B. great to know he is really known as big of a slimeball as we think he is. However, if Mehta does get canned by the NYDN, they will just put the next guy in those positions and expect more crazy excrement to get the controversy rolling. I refuse to believe that the NYDN didn't play a part in Mehta becoming the Dbag he is today, and I would expect even a quality journalist, in his role will resort to clickbait BS because that's what his bosses need/demand of him.

freak Manish
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MexJetinBcn on November 26, 2020, 06:12:38 AM
I refuse to believe that the NYDN didn't play a part in Mehta becoming the Dbag he is today, and I would expect even a quality journalist, in his role will resort to clickbait BS because that's what his bosses need/demand of him.

Maybe but remember Cimini was their beat writer before him and while he’s a whiny pessimistic bitch, he’s actually a professional journalist.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 26, 2020, 08:56:23 PM
https://www.radio.com/wfan/sports/jets/carton-banned-jets-reporter-stalked-gm-joe-douglas-son
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 27, 2020, 04:23:58 PM
https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1332335361972973568?s=21

WHAT
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Johnny English on November 27, 2020, 04:29:06 PM
https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1332335361972973568?s=21

WHAT

Looking forward to seeing all the people who cried on the internet about #metoo men being accused of harassment without evidence jumping on this because they hate Manish more than they fear their fragile masculinity.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Badger on November 27, 2020, 05:11:38 PM
https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1332335361972973568?s=21

WHAT
Jenny Vrentas or Kimberly Martin?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MBGreen on November 27, 2020, 05:13:29 PM
Jenny Vrentas or Kimberly Martin?
Yes
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: d sw0rdz on November 27, 2020, 07:19:20 PM
Jenny Vrentas or Kimberly Martin?

this isn't to absolve any of the slimy fvcked up excrement manish is doing, but i wonder if any of that was brushed off after vrentas cried wolf on the sainz jet harassment BS
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Badger on November 27, 2020, 07:23:17 PM
this isn't to absolve any of the slimy fvcked up excrement manish is doing, but i wonder if any of that was brushed off after vrentas cried wolf on the sainz jet harassment BS
The faux outrage over that was so widespread that I never had it pegged to any beat reporter. Did she actually kick that off or was she just one of the many wringing everything they could out of it?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 27, 2020, 07:33:12 PM
I'm pretty sure this is all Vrentas. Though Martin was mentioned somewhere else.
https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1332335644027269123
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Libero_2 on November 27, 2020, 10:08:31 PM
https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1332335361972973568?s=21

WHAT

Let all the excrement come out. I’m loving all the stuff related to this horses derriere.

This story has been the most interesting Jets related thing all season and I hope it continues to be as amusing and interesting until the season ends and we can actually move forwards with the coaching search and offseason.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on November 30, 2020, 07:50:44 AM
He didn't post about the team at all yesterday.  Hopefully he's fired. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 30, 2020, 12:30:05 PM
He didn't post about the team at all yesterday.  Hopefully he's fired. 

Hahahahaha
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: bojanglesman on December 06, 2020, 09:23:07 AM
Prrtty clear he either got suspended or fired.  No tweets or articles for 6 days.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: Heismanberg on December 06, 2020, 10:07:44 AM
Prrtty clear he either got suspended or fired.  No tweets or articles for 6 days.

Hopefully canned
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 06, 2020, 11:53:51 PM
If there is any such thing as karmic justice he’ll get some other really shitty, pathetic job in media where he’ll attempt to keep his twitter active to stay relevant only to get trolled
And ratioed until the end of time
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - Professional Journalist (Uncredentialed)
Post by: MexJetinBcn on December 10, 2020, 04:07:31 PM
From NY Daily News’ Twitter account

Manish Mehta has been removed from the New York Jets beat. Coverage of the team will continue uninterrupted.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 10, 2020, 04:12:10 PM
Bye bitch
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 10, 2020, 04:23:37 PM
https://twitter.com/T_Law_wrld/status/1337159719476219904?s=20
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: MBGreen on December 10, 2020, 04:32:17 PM
From NY Daily News’ Twitter account

Manish Mehta has been removed from the New York Jets beat. Coverage of the team will continue uninterrupted.

Now do Gase
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 10, 2020, 04:38:07 PM
Now do Gase

They can hate freak each other in a van under the Pulaski Skyway for the rest of eternity.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Johnny English on December 10, 2020, 04:43:09 PM
https://twitter.com/T_Law_wrld/status/1337159719476219904?s=20

One of my favourite Reddit subs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GhanaSaysGoodbye/
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Jumbo on December 10, 2020, 04:59:22 PM
https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1337156260295303173
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: MBGreen on December 10, 2020, 05:26:27 PM
Manish's Twitter account is no more.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: reuben on December 10, 2020, 05:33:55 PM
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/d3dIaJLb3TXRwxyg/giphy.gif)

We did it, JetOffensive!
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 10, 2020, 05:48:41 PM
The biggest Jets win in site history
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Libero_2 on December 10, 2020, 06:20:58 PM
I find it funny how long the NYDN first said nothing after he lost his credentials and secondly how long he was just in limbo while they decided what to do with the nut job.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Libero_2 on December 10, 2020, 06:24:49 PM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/12/10/new-york-daily-news-abruptly-withdraws-manish-mehta-from-the-jets-beat/

Interesting... they are suggesting that the Washington Post is working on story about this situation and the NYDN got wind of it and preemptively fired Mehta before the story drops.

I hope the post is writing a story because I’d love to know as many nitty gritty details as possible since it’s almost the only enjoyment we’ve had all freaking season
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 10, 2020, 07:29:17 PM
2 years is plenty of time for the new coach to show his own derriere the door.
Jets fans will be calling for his head by week 2 2019

Unrelated but


I was off by -2 weeks
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 10, 2020, 07:32:07 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/rajpc1/status/1131566460160106498

Bahahahaha Hahahahah

An all time classic
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Johnny English on December 10, 2020, 07:35:01 PM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/12/10/new-york-daily-news-abruptly-withdraws-manish-mehta-from-the-jets-beat/

Interesting... they are suggesting that the Washington Post is working on story about this situation and the NYDN got wind of it and preemptively fired Mehta before the story drops.

I hope the post is writing a story because I’d love to know as many nitty gritty details as possible since it’s almost the only enjoyment we’ve had all freaking season

Why would WaPo write that story? What percentage of their readership would actually care?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 10, 2020, 07:44:56 PM
Why would WaPo write that story? What percentage of their readership would actually care?
The Daily News is one of the biggest papers in America and Manish is one of the best known beat reporters for a New York franchise in the most popular sport in the nation.

Manish made a ton of enemies and I'm sure people would love to talk. And many of the rumors are salacious enough to be interesting to the general public.

It seems obvious why this would be a bigger story if any of the other rumors and tweets are true.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 10, 2020, 07:50:37 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/BjXFnX5/B3-FD29-B0-EF4-A-4-BC4-8069-E2360-C46364-F.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 10, 2020, 07:51:44 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/QPc6DkK/A44232-BB-2-DB2-4-CE3-BA7-F-07-F25-EBA692-F.png) (https://ibb.co/rxtZd3w)
 (https://freeonlinedice.com/)
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Libero_2 on December 10, 2020, 08:07:20 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/BjXFnX5/B3-FD29-B0-EF4-A-4-BC4-8069-E2360-C46364-F.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

I’m fairly confident Duff was his source so Manish wanted to ensure he stayed in place with that article/statement I’m sure
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Johnny English on December 10, 2020, 08:16:50 PM
The Daily News is one of the biggest papers in America and Manish is one of the best known beat reporters for a New York franchise in the most popular sport in the nation.

Manish made a ton of enemies and I'm sure people would love to talk. And many of the rumors are salacious enough to be interesting to the general public.

It seems obvious why this would be a bigger story if any of the other rumors and tweets are true.

But he writes about the Jets. The paper might have a relatively large circulation, but the only people who read Jets beat stories are Jets fans. No one else cares.

The rumours are not salacious, unless I'm missing something. The worst one I've heard is that he texted Douglas saying he was watching his kid eat ice cream, which is very weird and worthy of getting his credentials pulled and thus fired, but not IMO a story that has any interest beyond what it has already had.

It seems far more likely that the NYDN just ditched him because a beat writer without credentials is next to useless, and his click value is outweighed by the criticism that is now aimed at the paper. I don't buy the WaPo thing, it sounds like Florio grinding his axe in the context of an overinflated view of the importance of what he and his peers - including Mehta - actually do.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: IATA on December 10, 2020, 08:23:23 PM
If the rumors of him bullying and treating women reporters like excrement are true, I can 100% see WaPo write this article.

That's a huge shot at a dude disliked pretty universally across the business, and at a competitor in online clicks.



Sent from fire adam gase.

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Johnny English on December 10, 2020, 08:28:39 PM
If the rumors of him bullying and treating women reporters like excrement are true, I can 100% see WaPo write this article.

That's a huge shot at a dude disliked pretty universally across the business, and at a competitor in online clicks.

I hadn't heard about that.

I don't think WaPo and NYDN are competing for the same clicks though.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 10, 2020, 09:02:49 PM
I hadn't heard about that.

Yes, you did hear about it but you chose to ignore it because you claimed the person tweeting about it wasn’t credible.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Johnny English on December 10, 2020, 09:09:36 PM
Yes, you did hear about it but you chose to ignore it because you claimed the person tweeting about it wasn’t credible.

Right. The woman I've never heard of. I remember.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 10, 2020, 10:37:59 PM
I’m fairly confident Duff was his source so Manish wanted to ensure he stayed in place with that article/statement I’m sure

His source was Heimerdinger
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 11, 2020, 01:13:37 AM
I hadn't heard about that.

I don't think WaPo and NYDN are competing for the same clicks though.

You quoted SFD’s post on the thread.
Looking forward to seeing all the people who cried on the internet about #metoo men being accused of harassment without evidence jumping on this because they hate Manish more than they fear their fragile masculinity.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 11, 2020, 07:08:06 AM
JE is Manish Mehta’s biggest stan
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: bojanglesman on December 11, 2020, 07:09:32 AM
I'm a Steiny stan
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: MBGreen on December 11, 2020, 07:10:17 AM
I'm a Steiny stan

you just want that football signed by Ricky Sapp.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: bojanglesman on December 11, 2020, 07:41:07 AM
you just want that football signed by Ricky Sapp.
Youregoddamnright.gif
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: MBGreen on December 11, 2020, 07:42:51 AM
Youregoddamnright.gif

(https://i.imgur.com/x96XrVN.png)
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 11, 2020, 07:51:16 AM
Wonder if Manish was the one pissing and moaning about Steiny wearing a backwards baseball hat in the press pool.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 11, 2020, 07:57:52 AM
Wonder if Manish was the one pissing and moaning about Steiny wearing a backwards baseball hat in the press pool.

I think that was Rich Cimini
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Johnny English on December 11, 2020, 08:05:18 AM
You quoted SFD’s post on the thread.

Yes. I had completely forgotten about it; amongst the various other accusations of child stalking, rigging the US election and causing covid it slipped my memory.

JE is Manish Mehta’s biggest stan

As I've already said, I don't give a shiny excrement either way about Manish or any other writer. I just think it's hilarious how much you do. I'm excited to see who the next target for the internet mob is now that Manish has gone.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 11, 2020, 08:10:18 AM
As I've already said, I don't give a shiny excrement either way about Manish or any other writer.

He stalked a child, bullied a bunch of women.  He deserved all of this.

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: reuben on December 11, 2020, 08:23:59 AM
As I've already said, I don't give a shiny excrement either way about Manish or any other writer. I just think it's hilarious how much you do. I'm excited to see who the next target for the internet mob is now that Manish has gone.

He deliberately and repeatedly sowed discord within the Jets organization to advance his own standing.  His demise is an unequivocal good for any Jets fan. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Johnny English on December 11, 2020, 08:33:05 AM
He deliberately and repeatedly sowed discord within the Jets organization to advance his own standing.  His demise is an unequivocal good for any Jets fan. 

Meh. If the org can't cope with a bit of media skullduggery it's even more shambolic than we thought. Ten years ago Rich Cimini was public enemy number one. In another six months I'm sure you'll all be putting the boot in on whoever the NYDN hires to replace Manish.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: bojanglesman on December 11, 2020, 08:35:08 AM
Meh. If the org can't cope with a bit of media skullduggery it's even more shambolic than we thought. Ten years ago Rich Cimini was public enemy number one. In another six months I'm sure you'll all be putting the boot in on whoever the NYDN hires to replace Manish.

Being an poopchute is one thing, stalking his kid is another.  I thought Manish was good entertainment until I learned about all the creepy excrement he was doing.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Johnny English on December 11, 2020, 08:38:08 AM
Being an poopchute is one thing, stalking his kid is another.  I thought Manish was good entertainment until I learned about all the creepy excrement he was doing.

Again, I'm not defending Manish. I don't care that he was fired and I've already said that if that's all true, which it sounds like it was, then it was undoubtedly right to fire him.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: bojanglesman on December 11, 2020, 08:51:10 AM
Again, I'm not defending Manish. I don't care that he was fired and I've already said that if that's all true, which it sounds like it was, then it was undoubtedly right to fire him.

Sorry, I can't read.  I had to look up skullduggery.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 11, 2020, 09:25:31 AM
Ten years ago Rich Cimini was public enemy number one.

Rich gets excrement because he has negative takes on the franchise.  This is a completely different situation. 

I'm sure we'll continue to roast Connor Hughes and Rich Cimini for their awful takes on this team, but that's part of their job and they take it well.  Manish was always a scumbag. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 11, 2020, 10:09:58 AM
I think that was Rich Cimini

Also makes sense.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 11, 2020, 10:57:09 AM
Meh. If the org can't cope with a bit of media skullduggery it's even more shambolic than we thought. Ten years ago Rich Cimini was public enemy number one. In another six months I'm sure you'll all be putting the boot in on whoever the NYDN hires to replace Manish.
Manish was a manipulative douchebag, and if you still can't see that, you must have your head into the sand.

Comparing Manish to Cimini is like comparing apples and machine guns. It's not remotely the same thing at all.

Manish has always had shady tactics, and now they're coming out more to the forefront because one person (Charles McDonald) had the balls to speak up and get the ball rolling, and others joined in. I'm not sure if it affected what the Jets have been doing for the last 10 years when we've sucked, but it can't hurt to be rid of him.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 11, 2020, 11:02:37 AM
This is a beat reporter than undoubtedly created a lot of the issues between Jamal Adams and the team. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 11, 2020, 11:24:48 AM
https://twitter.com/benjstrauss/status/1337430384196411399?s=20

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 11, 2020, 11:25:29 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo-GztVXMAALUju?format=png&name=360x360)

Evidence as to why this is JE's favorite former reporter
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Johnny English on December 11, 2020, 11:32:04 AM
That is hilariously meta (pun not intended).

In the UK this guy would be just another average tabloid hack, the like of which every paper has multiples, and much of what he has done would be if not in the job description, certainly expected as part of doing his job. That so many people both inside and outside the NY media are bent out of shape about him is mindblowing.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: IATA on December 11, 2020, 11:34:51 AM
That is hilariously meta (pun not intended).

In the UK this guy would be just another average tabloid hack, the like of which every paper has multiples, and much of what he has done would be if not in the job description, certainly expected as part of doing his job. That so many people both inside and outside the NY media are bent out of shape about him is mindblowing.

well as you know, american media has certain standards that must be met
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 11, 2020, 11:37:40 AM
In the UK this guy would be just another average tabloid hack, the like of which every paper has multiples, and much of what he has done would be if not in the job description, certainly expected as part of doing his job. That so many people both inside and outside the NY media are bent out of shape about him is mindblowing.

Yeah man, chasing a female reporter down a hallway and screaming curse words at her is completely normal and acceptable behavior.

I'm sure those UK tabloid reporters love to stalk children and text their parents about what flavor ice cream they're eating too. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: IATA on December 11, 2020, 11:40:04 AM
https://twitter.com/nickmangold/status/1337206514671640581
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 11, 2020, 11:41:34 AM
https://twitter.com/nickmangold/status/1337206514671640581

Revis excrement on him too
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Johnny English on December 11, 2020, 11:43:01 AM
Yeah man, chasing a female reporter down a hallway and screaming curse words at her is completely normal and acceptable behavior.

I'm sure those UK tabloid reporters love to stalk children and text their parents about what flavor ice cream they're eating too. 

Oh man. 100% yes to both of those, and way worse.

I know a couple of UK tabloid writers, one very senior. He would laugh his nuts off at the idea of a journalist being fired for those things.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 11, 2020, 12:17:05 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/12/11/manish-mehta-jets-daily-news/

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: bojanglesman on December 11, 2020, 12:40:12 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/12/11/manish-mehta-jets-daily-news/
Paywall
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 11, 2020, 12:44:27 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/12/11/manish-mehta-jets-daily-news/



ya late
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 11, 2020, 06:52:08 PM
If there is any such thing as karmic justice he’ll get some other really shitty, pathetic job in media where he’ll attempt to keep his twitter active to stay relevant only to get trolled
And ratioed until the end of time

Manish is a hoo-ha
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: bojanglesman on December 11, 2020, 06:54:28 PM
He'll lay low for a while and re-emerge somewhere in the middle of bumfuck on some sports rag.  Or Walmart bathroom sweeper.  Whatevs.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on December 11, 2020, 07:03:32 PM
Barstool will probably hire him
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Miamipuck on December 11, 2020, 07:11:54 PM
Before he became a raging rooster, he was a decent reporter. If he goes back to that he will probably get a job. Sometimes people freak up, do their time and learn from it.

Or he can just be an immense gaping poopchute his entire life.


Honestly I don't care if I ever hear his name again.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Libero_2 on December 11, 2020, 07:32:37 PM
I don't care where he ends up as long as he never reports on anything Jets related ever again.

Hopefully he gets banished to covering A baseball in Idaho.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Badger on December 12, 2020, 07:25:10 AM
That is hilariously meta (pun not intended).

In the UK this guy would be just another average tabloid hack, the like of which every paper has multiples, and much of what he has done would be if not in the job description, certainly expected as part of doing his job. That so many people both inside and outside the NY media are bent out of shape about him is mindblowing.
That says more about the UK media cesspool than us.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: dcm1602 on January 12, 2021, 10:21:40 AM
Manish finally responds

In an obnoxiously long radio interview in Boston

https://985thesportshub.com/2021/01/12/manish-mehta-toucher-and-rich-interview-jets/
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 12, 2021, 10:24:35 AM
Quote
"The Jets have been very sensitive to criticism, so they went to these extraordinary lengths to try to remove me from the beat, because I found out a lot of their dysfunctional inner-workings," Mehta said. "No team should be able to get away with this. You should not be able to suppress a journalist by smearing their reputation with distortions and embellishments, and sometimes just flat-out fabrications, just because you don't like what they are reporting and writing, and that's exactly what happened here. The NFL, frankly, took the Jets' word for it without ever talking to me or my editors about whether any of those claims were true.

"Fundamentally, this is wrong. It sets a very dangerous precedent."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



Forgive me while I..



BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on January 12, 2021, 10:25:48 AM
The Jets framed me!

So Manish threatened Joe Douglas at the Senior Bowl, but Douglas framed him when it comes to the ice cream story.  Even though Manish actually did send that text to him...
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: mj2sexay on January 12, 2021, 10:27:09 AM
Manish finally responds

In an obnoxiously long radio interview in Boston

https://985thesportshub.com/2021/01/12/manish-mehta-toucher-and-rich-interview-jets/

I don't think it's worth wading through the 26 minutes of excrement that interview must be, but if those guys didn't bring up the rumor that he almost got into a fight with John Schneider at the combine they suck derriere at their job.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 12, 2021, 10:30:01 AM
Quote
One of the more controversial accusations against Mehta was that he interacted with the son of Jets GM Joe Douglas in an inappropriate way at a baseball game. Mehta described the interaction as "innocuous" and said he had been having friendly text conversations with Douglas at the time.

"The Jets framed that incident and said that Joe Douglas got a strange text out of nowhere from an unknown number saying that 'Hey I just saw your son at a baseball game,' as if I was monitoring his son in some way," Mehta said. "I don't quite understand it."

Actual text:

“Hey Joe, I know that your son’s favorite ice cream flavor is Vanilla. Interesting that he went with Dippin Dots over the waffle cone. Like his old man I bet. How do I know this? Let’s just say the Philly Fanatic and I have been watching him. Great day for a ballgame. That’s how good of a journalist I am.

Now let’s end the charade and you admit to me that you wanted to sign Logan Ryan.”
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 12, 2021, 10:30:50 AM
“Does your son wear tighty whiteys or boxers?”
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on January 12, 2021, 10:31:18 AM
Actual text:

“Hey Joe, I know that your son’s favorite ice cream flavor is Vanilla. Interesting that he went with Dippin Dots over the waffle cone. Like his old man I bet. How do I know this? Let’s just say the Philly Fanatic and I have been watching him. Great day for a ballgame. That’s how good of a journalist I am.

Now let’s end the charade and you admit to me that you wanted to sign Logan Ryan.”

lmao
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: bojanglesman on January 12, 2021, 10:32:53 AM
Actual text:

“Hey Joe, I know that your son’s favorite ice cream flavor is Vanilla. Interesting that he went with Dippin Dots over the waffle cone. Like his old man I bet. How do I know this? Let’s just say the Philly Fanatic and I have been watching him. Great day for a ballgame. That’s how good of a journalist I am.

Now let’s end the charade and you admit to me that you wanted to sign Logan Ryan.”

I can't tell sarcasm anymore, you're bullshitting, right?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Andrew Ryan on January 12, 2021, 10:33:25 AM
creeeeeeeeeeep
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Johnny English on January 12, 2021, 10:33:31 AM
Manish finally responds

In an obnoxiously long radio interview in Boston

https://985thesportshub.com/2021/01/12/manish-mehta-toucher-and-rich-interview-jets/

I WON THE ELECTION. BY A LOT!
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 12, 2021, 11:02:28 AM
Just as I argued in favor of Manish for years--all stories have at least a grain of truth, even if embellished--what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Even if the Jets embellished stories, he was engaging in shady "journalism" at best. And he wrecked numerous relationships within the organization. You reap what you sow, Manish.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Libero_2 on January 12, 2021, 12:04:27 PM
Just as I argued in favor of Manish for years--all stories have at least a grain of truth, even if embellished--what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Even if the Jets embellished stories, he was engaging in shady "journalism" at best. And he wrecked numerous relationships within the organization. You reap what you sow, Manish.

The fact that other beat reporters agreed with it and were thrilled when he got tossed shows something. Not one person (not even his editors to my knowledge) have publicly stood up for Mehta.

Lots of guys have put out negative stories for years and nobody else got canned. There will almost certainly be another Mehta (probably at the NYDN) and if the Jets don’t have him banned then it just weakens Manish’s arguments. You can be a dick of a reporter, but you can’t do the excrement he did.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Badger on January 12, 2021, 03:09:46 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



Forgive me while I..



BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Even if what he's saying is true I don't care. I can tell if my team is dysfunctional by looking at the standings. I don't need some clickbait bitch turning players against the franchise.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 14, 2021, 06:31:49 PM
https://twitter.com/mmethanydn/status/1349852936927649794?s=21
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Libero_2 on January 14, 2021, 09:57:14 PM
https://twitter.com/mmethanydn/status/1349852936927649794?s=21

What in the freaking freak is wrong with that guy?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on January 14, 2021, 09:57:37 PM
What in the freaking freak is wrong with that guy?

That's a fake account, bruv
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Libero_2 on January 14, 2021, 09:59:42 PM
That's a fake account, bruv

Ah... the Ol' Manish Metha single letter swap.

Oh Well, we got Saleh, I could give a freak if I look like an idiot tonight
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on February 01, 2021, 10:28:22 PM
https://twitter.com/KyleTeichert/status/1356452279688249351?s=20

LMAO
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 01, 2021, 10:56:10 PM
Quote
Sexual assault in the fourth degree: Class A misdemeanor or class D felony. (b) Sexual assault in the fourth degree is a class A misdemeanor or, if the victim of the offense is under sixteen years of age, a class D felony.

Uhhhh
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: dcm1602 on February 02, 2021, 01:07:41 AM
Judging by there being zero articles or mentions of it being the NYDN Mehta, this isn't necessarily (probably isn't) the same Mehta

Just another person who happens to have the same name (also living in NJ) Which happens to also be an extremely common name
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Libero_2 on February 02, 2021, 05:13:55 AM
I mean it lines up with his past behavior in how he treats women

Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Coach K on February 02, 2021, 05:40:37 AM
Touching kids during his Walmart shift (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210202/3eb87e5deecad4edd064b40b15e23568.jpg)
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Miamipuck on February 02, 2021, 07:24:02 AM
A Walmart store manager makes more than a beat reporter.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: MBGreen on March 13, 2021, 03:11:28 PM
Daddy's back
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Libero_2 on March 13, 2021, 03:12:46 PM
Daddy's back

What does that mean?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Derek Smalls on March 13, 2021, 03:14:04 PM
https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports

Reporting Jets "news" already
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Libero_2 on March 13, 2021, 03:24:02 PM
So wait he’s just a freelance reporter with no home base? Who the freak is going to give him access to anything?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: reuben on March 13, 2021, 04:03:16 PM
https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports

Reporting Jets "news" already

Look at those ratios. 
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 13, 2021, 10:25:04 PM
Look at those ratios. 

He’s getting owned.

Thanks for giving me the heads up so I could do the right thing.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Johnny English on March 17, 2021, 08:54:08 AM
https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports/status/1371957842639458317
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on March 17, 2021, 08:55:33 AM
https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports/status/1371957842639458317

lol
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: bojanglesman on March 17, 2021, 08:59:44 AM
Manish must be a twitter cuck.  Why do this to yourself for no reason?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: MBGreen on March 17, 2021, 09:03:36 AM
https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports/status/1371957842639458317

what a dunce

Hardee also switched over to DB. 


Manish needs to be flushed down the nearest toilet.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 17, 2021, 09:13:01 AM
He deleted it
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: bojanglesman on March 17, 2021, 09:14:17 AM
What is he doing?  I mean, is he unemployed and just farting around on the web or is working lettuce and tomatoes at Jimmy John's and doing this on his lunch break?
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Heismanberg on March 17, 2021, 09:17:23 AM
What is he doing?  I mean, is he unemployed and just farting around on the web or is working lettuce and tomatoes at Jimmy John's and doing this on his lunch break?

He is unemployed

Probably trying to use his Twitter following as a bridge to another shitty job
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: MBGreen on March 17, 2021, 09:18:07 AM
He is unemployed

Probably trying to use his Twitter following as a bridge to another shitty job

Maybe puck can put a word in for him at Trader Joes.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Badger on March 17, 2021, 09:22:17 AM
He deleted it
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210317/fe14ae805470e566fe1f5e633748ceed.jpg)
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 17, 2021, 09:52:25 AM
Lol so now he can’t even plagiarize tweets correctly
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: mj2sexay on March 17, 2021, 05:53:51 PM
Lol, that twitter feed is freaking pathetic.

"Hey guys Josh Doctson is planning on coming back to the league!" Nice fuckin scoop Manish LMAO.
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Badger on March 26, 2021, 08:24:55 PM
Scoop: Jets open to increasingly likely scenario

https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports/status/1375536273398595591?s=19
Title: Re: Manish Mehta - FIRED
Post by: Badger on March 26, 2021, 08:26:34 PM
In other news I am open to not ascending Mt. Everest on a pogo stick this sunmer