Post by: casman02 on April 28, 2017, 08:51:02 PM
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lol that's Sammie coates replacement not minds take it how you want to I am back
Sounds like a great teammate
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 28, 2017, 08:52:02 PM
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Post by: Miamipuck on April 28, 2017, 09:26:29 PM
Sounds like a great teammate
not minds.......... J-E-T-E
Post by: Johnny English on August 18, 2017, 05:50:55 PM
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Post by: Miamipuck on August 19, 2017, 09:05:59 PM
You know how many fat blunts 3 million dollars can buy!?
No, how many?
Post by: Badger on August 19, 2017, 09:31:28 PM
You know how many fat blunts 3 million dollars can buy!?
Are we buying prefabricated blunts or buying weed and papers in bulk and rolling ourselves?
Post by: ukilledkenny on August 20, 2017, 06:32:36 AM
Are we buying prefabricated blunts or buying weed and papers in bulk and rolling ourselves?
I'm gonna guess Bell has a member of his posse whose only purpose is to roll blunts. So bulk and roll them.
Post by: bojanglesman on October 15, 2017, 08:29:52 PM
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Rapsheet: Sources: #Steelers playmaking WR Martavis Bryant recently requested a trade. His teammates and coaches are well aware that he’s unhappy.
Stay far from this fucker please.
Post by: dcm1602 on October 15, 2017, 08:39:17 PM
Stay far from this fucker please.
If only there was a team in the NFC that desperately needed wrs.
Though theyd have to finish 9-2 to even have a chance at getting a wildcard spot so not sure how interested they would be at trading for a guy like that.
Post by: MBGreen on October 15, 2017, 08:49:00 PM
Stay far from this fucker please.we have a history of trading for steeler wr malcontents.
Post by: Andrew Ryan on October 15, 2017, 08:56:05 PM
we have a history of trading for steeler wr malcontents.
Santonio Holmes... anyone else?
Post by: bojanglesman on October 15, 2017, 08:57:40 PM
Tanny has a history of trading for steeler wr malcontents.
Post by: MBGreen on October 15, 2017, 09:33:21 PM
Santonio Holmes... anyone else?yer boi....Limas Sweed
Post by: Libero_2 on October 15, 2017, 10:12:32 PM
yer boi....Limas Sweed
When the he'll did we trade for Limas Sweed?
Post by: MBGreen on October 15, 2017, 10:13:51 PM
When the he'll did we trade for Limas Sweed?
when the time was right
Post by: Badger on October 16, 2017, 09:53:16 AM
yer boi....Limas Sweed"Typical Jets"
Post by: MBGreen on October 16, 2017, 10:38:11 AM
"Typical Jets"
"borsky"
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 16, 2017, 11:15:43 AM
Post by: Johnny English on October 16, 2017, 11:21:02 AM
There’s also the time we traded for Derrick Mason
.....from the Ravens.
Post by: MBGreen on October 16, 2017, 12:38:37 PM
.....from the Ravens.
"Play Like a Raven"
Post by: bojanglesman on May 03, 2018, 08:02:57 AM
https://twitter.com/J_Nubz/status/992013313939734528
Post by: steves850 on May 03, 2018, 08:38:48 AM
Man.....
https://twitter.com/J_Nubz/status/992013313939734528
He definitely rustled some jimmies. That's pretty great.
Post by: bojanglesman on May 04, 2018, 05:54:17 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000931628/article/big-ben-on-rudolph-pick-how-does-it-help-us-win-now
Post by: dcm1602 on May 04, 2018, 07:33:54 PM
Big Ben is a bit of a dick.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000931628/article/big-ben-on-rudolph-pick-how-does-it-help-us-win-now
Meh he's being defensive of his teammates, but at the same time he's sure making the new guy feel like a jerkoff.
Of course if the team really felt he had first round value can't blame them for drafting him
Post by: Johnny English on September 03, 2018, 03:20:50 PM
Post by: MBGreen on September 03, 2018, 03:23:54 PM
Amidst all the Raiders fun, Le'veon Bell still hasn't signed his franchise tender and isn't in camp. I wonder how long it will be before trade rumours start up.
I'm sure he'll arrive just under the wire.
Post by: Johnny English on September 03, 2018, 03:32:53 PM
I'm sure he'll arrive just under the wire.
That seems like the most likely outcome, but I also didn't see any way that the Raiders wouldn't get a deal done with Mack.
Post by: MBGreen on September 03, 2018, 03:39:04 PM
That seems like the most likely outcome, but I also didn't see any way that the Raiders wouldn't get a deal done with Mack.
if the Steelers were run by certifiable nutjob like Gruden, i would lean your way.
Post by: Johnny English on September 03, 2018, 03:53:17 PM
if the Steelers were run by certifiable nutjob like Gruden, i would lean your way.
Fair, but also bear in mind that the fact that they're well run is why he might get traded. They know that there's a price ceiling on a 26 year old running back with a cruciate reconstruction and a previous PED suspension, and if he won't accept their ceiling then they'll be well advised to find someone who will.
Pittsburgh have never had a problem finding running backs. Their system is built for it.
Post by: MBGreen on September 03, 2018, 03:57:49 PM
Fair, but also bear in mind that the fact that they're well run is why he might get traded. They know that there's a price ceiling on a 26 year old running back with a cruciate reconstruction and a previous PED suspension, and if he won't accept their ceiling then they'll be well advised to find someone who will.
Pittsburgh have never had a problem finding running backs. Their system is built for it.
They're not going to find a suitable replacement on the eve of the season, and James Conner isn't it either.
If they want to wash their hands of him, it'll be in the offseason is my guess.
I'm also aware that HB is a pluggable position, however Bell is a massive part of their offense (as a runner and a receiver).
Post by: bojanglesman on September 03, 2018, 04:34:12 PM
Can't compare it to Mack. Pass rushers are next to QB in importance in the NFL.
Post by: Johnny English on September 03, 2018, 04:51:46 PM
No one is going to give up a ton to turn around and over pay for Bell.
Can't compare it to Mack. Pass rushers are next to QB in importance in the NFL.
No one said "a ton". I said the trade rumours will start soon, because it makes no sense to keep an expiring asset on your roster that you're not going to be able to find a deal with if someone else will give up something in order to do so.
Obvious candidates for me are Seattle, SF and Indy. All have cap space, all have chopped liver at RB, all have their QBs in place and the need to give him more weapons.
Post by: MBGreen on September 03, 2018, 05:00:36 PM
No one said "a ton". I said the trade rumours will start soon, because it makes no sense to keep an expiring asset on your roster that you're not going to be able to find a deal with if someone else will give up something in order to do so.The Seahawks spent a 1st rd pick on Rashad Penny...you can cross them off your list.
Obvious candidates for me are Seattle, SF and Indy. All have cap space, all have chopped liver at RB, all have their QBs in place and the need to give him more weapons.
Post by: Johnny English on September 03, 2018, 05:09:49 PM
The Seahawks spent a 1st rd pick on Rashad Penny...you can cross them off your list.
Fair point, forgot about that.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 03, 2018, 05:15:23 PM
I just don't see a team out there looking to sign Bell to a good deal and give up reasonable compensation to do it.
Post by: Libero_2 on September 03, 2018, 06:31:21 PM
Is Bell going to sign a new deal for a new team that he wouldn't sign for Pitt? A team isn't going to trade for him if they aren't sure they can sign him to a deal. The Steelers aren't going to trade him for peanuts. They'd rather keep him and let him finish out this year than give him up for a 5th rounder or some crap.
I just don't see a team out there looking to sign Bell to a good deal and give up reasonable compensation to do it.
I agree which is why Bell will play out the year as a Steeler. It would be interesting to gauge what people think he will get paid. He’s got a ton of tread that’s been worn off his tires, he has a suspension under his belt and he has already had knee surgery.
I’d bet he wants the richest RB contract ever. I’d expect he ends up getting $10-12 million per year from some team hoping he has 2 years left.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 05, 2018, 03:10:17 PM
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Steelers teammates not happy with Le’Veon Bell no show, led by vet G Ramon Foster, their player rep:
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More Ramon Foster on Bell: “He’s making 7 times what I make twice as much as Al (Villanueva) is making and we’re the guys who do it for him.”
Post by: dcm1602 on September 06, 2018, 11:48:58 AM
I agree which is why Bell will play out the year as a Steeler. It would be interesting to gauge what people think he will get paid. He’s got a ton of tread that’s been worn off his tires, he has a suspension under his belt and he has already had knee surgery.
I’d bet he wants the richest RB contract ever. I’d expect he ends up getting $10-12 million per year from some team hoping he has 2 years left.
He's gonna be an UFA still in his prime. If Gurley got a 4 years 60 million extension (yes he was under his rookie deal still) I know bell is going to want more than 10 to 12 million a year.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him get 14 to 16 million a year for 4 years with at least 50 million guaranteed. Him being a free agent in his prime basically guarantees setting records for a RBs contract. The question is how healthy can be finish this season
Post by: Miamipuck on September 06, 2018, 12:25:57 PM
Post by: MBGreen on September 06, 2018, 12:33:14 PM
He's gonna be an UFA still in his prime. If Gurley got a 4 years 60 million extension (yes he was under his rookie deal still) I know bell is going to want more than 10 to 12 million a year.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him get 14 to 16 million a year for 4 years with at least 50 million guaranteed. Him being a free agent in his prime basically guarantees setting records for a RBs contract. The question is how healthy can be finish this season
As long as the Jets aren't the ones offering him that kind of money next year.
Post by: Badger on September 06, 2018, 12:36:37 PM
As long as the Jets aren't the ones offering him that kind of money next year.The radio guys this morning said he's a lock to be a Jet if he hits the market... so that means it'll never happen.
Post by: d sw0rdz on September 06, 2018, 02:23:44 PM
if you want him to come in and you're pissed that's one thing, but don't start throwing around or comparing numbers and money. i have never seen that before and it shouldn't have happened
Post by: bojanglesman on September 06, 2018, 02:57:19 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on September 06, 2018, 04:47:04 PM
He's gonna be an UFA still in his prime. If Gurley got a 4 years 60 million extension (yes he was under his rookie deal still) I know bell is going to want more than 10 to 12 million a year.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him get 14 to 16 million a year for 4 years with at least 50 million guaranteed. Him being a free agent in his prime basically guarantees setting records for a RBs contract. The question is how healthy can be finish this season
That’s why I said I can’t wait to see what he gets paid. What he wants and what he will get are different things. I’d love Bell in green and white, but whoever pays him needs and out after two years because he’s going to be a guy who breaks down so quickly age wise. I expect he will have a Shaun Alexander or Priest Holmes type of collapse when it happens. I don’t want to see it happen to us and be locked into him beyond the season that he breaks down
Post by: Badger on September 06, 2018, 04:55:19 PM
https://twitter.com/ohrnberger/status/1037476925499797504?s=20
Post by: Ornstein on September 06, 2018, 05:22:08 PM
The radio guys this morning said he's a lock to be a Jet if he hits the market... so that means it'll never happen.
I don't think so, he laughed at the idea of it when someone asked him about it on twitter.
Post by: Badger on September 06, 2018, 05:25:38 PM
I don't think so, he laughed at the idea of it when someone asked him about it on twitter.
Doesn't matter if the $ is right.
Post by: reuben on September 06, 2018, 06:35:15 PM
freak everyone on this team who isn't Antonio Brown.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 06, 2018, 06:41:32 PM
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Post by: Miamipuck on September 08, 2018, 08:44:57 PM
the steelers o-lineman were being biggity bitches
if you want him to come in and you're pissed that's one thing, but don't start throwing around or comparing numbers and money. i have never seen that before and it shouldn't have happened
This kind of pissed me off. Football players more than any other should shut the freak up and support a team mate looking to get more money. Bell had over 400 touches last year. If he keeps getting that many, he's done sooner rather than later. He should be looking to get as much money as possible because when he's 40 and can't walk any longer with out a cane, not a single one of those fat fucks is going to lend him money for medical care.
Post by: Badger on September 08, 2018, 10:32:35 PM
This kind of pissed me off. Football players more than any other should shut the freak up and support a team mate looking to get more money. Bell had over 400 touches last year. If he keeps getting that many, he's done sooner rather than later. He should be looking to get as much money as possible because when he's 40 and can't walk any longer with out a cane, not a single one of those fat fucks is going to lend him money for medical care.+1
Post by: reuben on September 08, 2018, 10:51:02 PM
The Jets Instagram started following Leveon Bell. They only follow Jets players and related staff
Santonio Holmes 2.0.
Post by: guinness77 on September 09, 2018, 02:28:48 PM
Post by: Pope on September 09, 2018, 06:36:11 PM
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 09, 2018, 06:51:13 PM
Italian Seafood sitting on his couch smoking a blunt and thinking about the end of time.
FYP
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2018, 11:00:06 AM
Lol
Post by: MBGreen on September 17, 2018, 11:25:50 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ab84/status/1041710739642376193
Lol
Get on the phone, Duff.
Post by: Miamipuck on September 17, 2018, 11:36:17 AM
Get on the phone, Duff.
freak yes
Post by: dcm1602 on September 17, 2018, 12:12:23 PM
Post by: MBGreen on September 17, 2018, 01:13:26 PM
Obviously they're not trading him. But giving up at least a 1st and a freak ton of money for Brown would be stupid considering wideout is one of our deepest positions. And we have a ton of guys that are due to get paid. But I don't know if Kearse and Anderson are guys you pay a whole lot
I would trade a 1st, a fuckton of money, and your life for Antonio Brown...and not even think twice about it.
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 17, 2018, 01:19:10 PM
I would trade a 1st, a fuckton of money, and your life for Antonio Brown...and not even think twice about it.
I don't even dislike dcm, and I'd do this deal without blinking.
Post by: Miamipuck on September 17, 2018, 04:23:53 PM
I don't even dislike dcm, and I'd do this deal without blinking.
I would throw in yours, bojanglesman and MBGreen to do that deal.
Re: I do dislike you all.
Post by: MBGreen on September 18, 2018, 12:20:26 PM
Get on the phone, Duff.
Post by: MBGreen on September 18, 2018, 12:26:38 PM
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Antonio Brown and his agent Drew Rosenhaus left the stadium Sunday rather quickly. Watched them walk together down the hall and AB was doing lots of hand gesturing while talking to his agent. Don’t want to make assumptions but he didn’t look happy. #steelers
Post by: Johnny English on September 18, 2018, 12:42:41 PM
Apparently Antonio Brown didn't show up to work yesterday.
Get on the phone, Duff.
I'm not entirely sure that I'd want to bring in a receiver with an attitude problem to a team that can't give the rookie QB time to throw the ball consistently.
Post by: MBGreen on September 18, 2018, 12:47:29 PM
I'm not entirely sure that I'd want to bring in a receiver with an attitude problem to a team that can't give the rookie QB time to throw the ball consistently.
Every elite WR over the history of time has an attitude problem at some point in their career.
Torry Holt and Marvin Harrison may be the exception. They're certainly in the minority.
Post by: Laxin on September 18, 2018, 12:49:06 PM
Trade them a 1st, 2nd, dcm, Eric Smith, white trash, and whatever else they want.
Post by: MBGreen on September 18, 2018, 12:50:49 PM
While we are living in fantast land, lets get AB and Bell in a package deal.
Trade them a 1st, 2nd, dcm, Eric Smith, white trash, and whatever else they want.
Lets switch Tomlin and Bowles too....maybe the Steelers won't notice.
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 18, 2018, 01:40:57 PM
I would throw in yours, bojanglesman and MBGreen to do that deal.
Re: I do dislike you all.
Not gonna lie, I'd strongly consider that counter-offer too.
Post by: Badger on September 18, 2018, 02:16:59 PM
Every elite WR over the history of time has an attitude problem at some point in their career.
Torry Holt and Marvin Harrison may be the exception. They're certainly in the minority.
Marvin Harrison maybe might have killed a man but he never talked trash or complained about his contract so he's basically a model citizen.
Post by: MBGreen on September 18, 2018, 02:38:55 PM
Marvin Harrison maybe might have killed a man but he never talked trash or complained about his contract so he's basically a model citizen.
I don't remember the guy saying a word his entire career. I thought he was mute.
Post by: Miamipuck on September 18, 2018, 05:34:34 PM
Marvin Harrison maybe might have killed a man but he never talked trash or complained about his contract so he's basically a model citizen.
Thank you, I thought he was an odd choice. Jerry Rice seemed ok, Julio Jones isn't a Dickhead, AJ Green to name a few guys not involved in murders or gang hits.
Post by: d sw0rdz on September 18, 2018, 09:44:07 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 19, 2018, 08:51:29 AM
Thank you, I thought he was an odd choice. Jerry Rice seemed ok, Julio Jones isn't a Dickhead, AJ Green to name a few guys not involved in murders or gang hits.
How the hell has Larry Fitzgerald not been mentioned once in this conversation?
Post by: MBGreen on September 19, 2018, 08:56:03 AM
How the hell has Larry Fitzgerald not been mentioned once in this conversation?
yep, forgot about him. Good one, Alio.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 19, 2018, 08:58:10 AM
How the hell has Larry Fitzgerald not been mentioned once in this conversation?
Bill Cosby was once a nice guy too.
#Fitzgropes....prolly....maybe
Post by: MBGreen on September 19, 2018, 09:03:00 AM
Bill Cosby was once a nice guy too.
#Fitzgropes....prolly....maybe
I still like Vanilla pudding pops.
Post by: Johnny English on September 19, 2018, 09:13:07 AM
How the hell has Larry Fitzgerald not been mentioned once in this conversation?
I was going to but someone would then mention his DV accusation from 10 years ago and I couldn't be bothered with the argument.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 19, 2018, 09:38:57 AM
I was going to but someone would then mention his DV accusation from 10 years ago and I couldn't be bothered with the argument.
Maybe we should start a "people you forgot groped/abused" thread.
Post by: Badger on September 19, 2018, 02:01:47 PM
I was going to but someone would then mention his DV accusation from 10 years ago and I couldn't be bothered with the argument.I didn't know or forgot about this.
Post by: Johnny English on September 19, 2018, 02:04:05 PM
I didn't know or forgot about this.
It was never proven and he was never charged, but any mention of Fitz as a good example of how sportspeople should behave will invariably result in someone observing that ten years ago he was accused of something that he may or may not have done.
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 19, 2018, 02:44:58 PM
I didn't know or forgot about this.
Same.
It was never proven and he was never charged, but any mention of Fitz as a good example of how sportspeople should behave will invariably result in someone observing that ten years ago he was accused of something that he may or may not have done.
I didn't look very hard, but what I found was a TMZ article:
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Larry Fitzgerald -- the star wide receiver for the Arizona Cardinals -- has been ordered to stay away from his baby mama and his 11-month-old son after he allegedly knocked her around a room and pulled her hair out.
Angela Nazario claims she brought the couple's son to visit Larry at his Phoenix home last October when the former lovers began arguing.
Nazario alleges in her legal papers filed in Arizona, Fitzgerald attempted to "defuse the situation" by raising his fist and challenging her to a play fight. Nazario admits she responded by swinging at him and "may have hit his face."
Fitzgerald then turned from playful to enraged, allegedly pushing Nazario down to her knees. She claims he "grabbed me by my hair with both hands on the back of my head very very hard and tossed me across the room."
Later, when she tried to leave with her son, Nazario says Fitzgerald "grabbed the back of my neck and slammed me down on the marble floor ... was disoriented for awhile and could not get up, I remember he mumbled something about 'that's what happens when you try taking my son away from me.'" As she got in the car to leave she realized she had lost "chunks" of hair.
If the whole thing is true, that's some fucked up excrement.
Post by: Johnny English on September 19, 2018, 02:52:48 PM
Same.
I didn't look very hard, but what I found was a TMZ article:
If the whole thing is true, that's some fucked up excrement.
Again, he was never charged. She got a restraining order against him, but no arrest was ever made and no charges were ever filed.
Post by: Pope on September 19, 2018, 09:03:57 PM
Post by: Johnny English on September 23, 2018, 12:10:25 PM
Steelers now listening to trade offers for RB Le’Veon Bell, league sources tell ESPN.
I can't imagine that we're not part of these conversations.
Post by: MBGreen on September 23, 2018, 12:35:00 PM
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefterNo thanks
Steelers now listening to trade offers for RB Le’Veon Bell, league sources tell ESPN.
I can't imagine that we're not part of these conversations.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 23, 2018, 12:35:16 PM
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefterI hope not. Our backs are fine and cheap. Not a good place to spend money, don't need to get rid of draft picks.
Steelers now listening to trade offers for RB Le’Veon Bell, league sources tell ESPN.
I can't imagine that we're not part of these conversations.
Post by: Johnny English on September 23, 2018, 12:37:19 PM
Post by: MBGreen on September 23, 2018, 12:40:29 PM
Bell is probably the best blocking back in the league and our protection is not good.That’s not a good enough argument to meet bell’s asking price and give up picks.
Not when our oline needs attention at the draft, and our pass rush.
Post by: Johnny English on September 23, 2018, 12:52:15 PM
That’s not a good enough argument to meet bell’s asking price and give up picks.I don't care about the money, we have enough that the contract would prevent other moves. I also don't believe that the pick would be high.
Not when our oline needs attention at the draft, and our pass rush.
Post by: MBGreen on September 23, 2018, 01:21:25 PM
I don't care about the money, we have enough that the contract would prevent other moves. I also don't believe that the pick would be high.Then all let’s be thankful you aren’t the Jets GM
Post by: bojanglesman on September 23, 2018, 01:23:54 PM
Then all let’s be thankful you aren’t the Jets GMLaron Landry available.
Post by: reuben on September 23, 2018, 01:25:35 PM
Post by: MBGreen on September 23, 2018, 01:31:36 PM
Post by: Johnny English on September 23, 2018, 03:36:47 PM
Then all let’s be thankful you aren’t the Jets GM
I'm sure. Tell me, in the hypothetical world in which you are, which free agent linemen are you saving your money for in the spring of 2019?
Post by: MBGreen on September 23, 2018, 03:48:50 PM
I'm sure. Tell me, in the hypothetical world in which you are, which free agent linemen are you saving your money for in the spring of 2019?As usual, you’re not listening.
You don’t spend that kind of money on the HB position with that much mileage on their resume, because he can block.
Our HB situation isn’t a problem...our oline is.
You also don’t blow a shitload of cap space just for the sake of doing it.
Bell is a massive waste of money, who by the way, doesn’t give a excrement about his team.
Post by: Johnny English on September 23, 2018, 03:51:50 PM
As usual, you’re not listening.
You don’t spend that kind of money on the HB position with that much mileage on their resume, because he can block.
Our HB situation isn’t a problem...our oline is.
You also don’t blow a shitload of cap space just for the sake of doing it.
Bell is a massive waste of money, who by the way, doesn’t give a excrement about his team.
Bell would be a massive improvement on our running game, and he would provide a big boost to our pass protection. I'm not talking about blowing cap space for the sake of it, I'm talking about adding an elite player who would immediately make the team a lot better.
It's reasonable to have concerns about his attitude, but the idea that he wouldn't improve us or that the cost would somehow be of any relevance to a team in our situation is somewhat disingenuous in the context of our likely plans for the next offseason.
Post by: MBGreen on September 23, 2018, 03:58:22 PM
Bell would be a massive improvement on our running game, and he would provide a big boost to our pass protection. I'm not talking about blowing cap space for the sake of it, I'm talking about adding an elite player who would immediately make the team a lot better.Massive improvement? Our oline stinks...he’s not going to make us better until that’s addressed, and I agree about the pass protection, but that’s not enough to pay him 20 mil per season or whatever his price is.
It's reasonable to have concerns about his attitude, but the idea that he wouldn't improve us or that the cost would somehow be of any relevance to a team in our situation is somewhat disingenuous in the context of our likely plans for the next offseason.
He wants Gurley money, JE. We can’t be fiscally retarded with our cap.
EDIT: on top of all that, I don’t want to give up picks for him either.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 23, 2018, 03:59:32 PM
I'm sure. Tell me, in the hypothetical world in which you are, which free agent linemen are you saving your money for in the spring of 2019?I can't say any free agent offensive linemen are worth it, but I can think of some pass rushers, a few corners and we need several WRs next year.
We currently have 1 WR on the cap for next year. Charone Peake.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 23, 2018, 04:00:52 PM
Post by: MBGreen on September 23, 2018, 04:05:31 PM
Post by: Johnny English on September 23, 2018, 04:09:03 PM
Massive improvement? Our oline stinks...he’s not going to make us better until that’s addressed, and I agree about the pass protection, but that’s not enough to pay him 20 mil per season or whatever his price is.
He wants Gurley money, JE. We can’t be fiscally retarded with our cap.
EDIT: on top of all that, I don’t want to give up picks for him either.
He's not going to ask for or get anything like $20M per. My guess is that he'll end up with something like 3 years / $40M.
We have $107M in cap space next year, and 29 players under contract. Bilal Powell is not one of them, and he will be 30 next season. We are in a position to sign some elite talents, and we should be doing so when the opportunity presents.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 23, 2018, 04:14:04 PM
He's not going to ask for or get anything like $20M per. My guess is that he'll end up with something like 3 years / $40M.I think any trade would have to be with the assumption of a new deal, not a rental.
We have $107M in cap space next year, and 29 players under contract. Bilal Powell is not one of them, and he will be 30 next season. We are in a position to sign some elite talents, and we should be doing so when the opportunity presents.
Post by: Johnny English on September 23, 2018, 04:18:12 PM
I think any trade would have to be with the assumption of a new deal, not a rental.
Of course. No one's trading anything for a player who hasn't even been in camp this year, much less actually played, if they're only getting them for the rest of the season. Bell wants a long term deal - a three year extension means that he is 30 in the last year of his contract.
Post by: MBGreen on September 23, 2018, 04:25:03 PM
Post by: Johnny English on September 23, 2018, 04:29:38 PM
I guess I’ll have to say it a third time...Bell is on record saying he doesn’t want to play here. So if a trade happens, it’s a rental. Which should get Duff fired.
Le'veon Bell is on record as saying a lot of things, for example:
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Le'Veon Bell
Verified account
@LeVeonBell @LeVeonBell
Yup ima Jets fan...What can I say? I love #GreenAndWhite....lol
https://twitter.com/leveonbell/status/56772240771002368?lang=en
The Pittsburgh Tribune thinks we're one of three teams with a serious interest in him, the others being the Colts and the Buccaneers:
https://triblive.com/sports/steelers/14109284-74/report-steelers-listening-to-trade-offers-for-leveon-bell
Post by: bojanglesman on September 23, 2018, 04:31:51 PM
Post by: MBGreen on September 23, 2018, 04:31:52 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on September 23, 2018, 05:51:53 PM
If the team is smart, they’ll pass.
Depends on the price. If we spend a 6th rounder on Bell for a year, the development he can give Darnold is probably a lot more than whatever pleated we take in the 6th round next year.
If we spend a 3rd he needs to be resigned plain and simple.
I love the idea of bringing in Bell the player. He would easily be the most talented back on our roster since Thomas Jones was here. What Bell can do for Darnold as a weapon in the passing game and to reduce the pressure on him by having a stronger running game could be huge for his development.
My biggest concerns are the knee injur Bell has suffered and the insane usage that Pitt has had for him. Does he really have 3 years left at an elite level? I really don’t think that’s going to end up true.
I’d feel better just paying him in the offseason than a trade right now when it might take him 2-3 weeks to get into true football shape. We all remember Revis when he got done with his holdout that year.
Post by: Jumbo on September 23, 2018, 05:58:49 PM
Depends on the price. If we spend a 6th rounder on Bell for a year, the development he can give Darnold is probably a lot more than whatever pleated we take in the 6th round next year.
If we spend a 3rd he needs to be resigned plain and simple.
I love the idea of bringing in Bell the player. He would easily be the most talented back on our roster since Thomas Jones was here. What Bell can do for Darnold as a weapon in the passing game and to reduce the pressure on him by having a stronger running game could be huge for his development.
My biggest concerns are the knee injur Bell has suffered and the insane usage that Pitt has had for him. Does he really have 3 years left at an elite level? I really don’t think that’s going to end up true.
I’d feel better just paying him in the offseason than a trade right now when it might take him 2-3 weeks to get into true football shape. We all remember Revis when he got done with his holdout that year.
They'll get a comp 3rd if he walks so I imagine they wouldn't take much less than that
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 24, 2018, 02:40:58 PM
This is a mediocre team, at best. This team needs playmakers at WR and an OL that can actually block. Crowell and Powell would look a lot better if the blocking was even average.
I'm not worried about the money. The Jets have so much money to spend it's ridiculous. But picks are a necessity for a team that still needs a lot more talent infused into the trenches.
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 24, 2018, 02:41:52 PM
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 24, 2018, 03:00:53 PM
That said, Manish just tweeted that the Jets have called Pittsburgh expressing interest.
Conventional wisdom: Wait for Alio to weigh in, do the opposite.
Post by: Pope on September 24, 2018, 03:10:06 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 24, 2018, 03:14:19 PM
If we trade anything substantial for Bell I will be pissedThis. I don't want him as a free agent. And I definitely don't want to give him a massive contract AND trade a draft pick.
Post by: Pope on September 24, 2018, 03:15:34 PM
Post by: MBGreen on September 24, 2018, 03:18:15 PM
I like Bell, but he's not worth a trade.
This is a mediocre team, at best. This team needs playmakers at WR and an OL that can actually block. Crowell and Powell would look a lot better if the blocking was even average.
I'm not worried about the money. The Jets have so much money to spend it's ridiculous. But picks are a necessity for a team that still needs a lot more talent infused into the trenches.
+1000
Post by: dcm1602 on September 24, 2018, 03:18:18 PM
So unless you think trading for Bell means you're winning the super bowl this season, or you don't mind getting the comp 3rd back for him the following year (assuming you're not going to spend a ton of cash like we will) trading for Bell is absolutely freaking stupid.
Post by: MBGreen on September 24, 2018, 03:19:19 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on September 24, 2018, 03:43:47 PM
He would make more sense for a team that surely in the playoff hunt.
Post by: Johnny English on September 24, 2018, 03:58:18 PM
I think this is just Duff turning over stones. Doesn't cost a thing to call.
He would make more sense for a team that surely in the playoff hunt.
Or a team that is already shorthanded in the RB corps and is likely losing its #1 back to age-related free agency at the end of the season.
I get why people don't think he makes sense as a rental for this season - he might not be in shape and we're not contending for anything this year. I even get why people are reluctant to give up a pick for him, although I honestly don't think we're going to draft anyone remotely as talented in the 3rd round next year, and as I've already pointed out we are going to need to add at least one back next year anyway. But I don't know why folks are so dead set against adding elite players when we have cash to burn and a gaping hole at the position.
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 24, 2018, 04:00:14 PM
If we give up any kind of substantial draft capital for Bell...Duff’s house should be burned down.
We don't want to miss out on the next ArDarius Stewart or Jace Amaro.
Post by: dcm1602 on September 24, 2018, 04:27:48 PM
Or a team that is already shorthanded in the RB corps and is likely losing its #1 back to age-related free agency at the end of the season.
I get why people don't think he makes sense as a rental for this season - he might not be in shape and we're not contending for anything this year. I even get why people are reluctant to give up a pick for him, although I honestly don't think we're going to draft anyone remotely as talented in the 3rd round next year, and as I've already pointed out we are going to need to add at least one back next year anyway. But I don't know why folks are so dead set against adding elite players when we have cash to burn and a gaping hole at the position.
I don't get why you're talking about a future 3rd round pick comparing him to Bell. If we traded for Bell he's under contract for this year and this year alone, and then hes an UFA with no incentive to sign with us other than scouts honor (and considering he's under contract with the Steelers right now and freaking them over would you really trust him?)
A 3rd round pick would be far less talented,m almost certainly. But he would be under contract with the Jets for 4 years for next to nothing. Bell would just eat up millions of dollars to play offense this year, an offense he doesn't even know, with his top priority being staying healthy and not his performance, and then contractually could do anything he wanted.
If we were a contender I could understand it. If we were gonna trade for him and get him for 4 years under a monster contract I would disagree with it but again understand the logic.
But to trade for him with no guarantees of anything but him playing the remainder of this season? Makes absolutely zero freaking sense. The only way I could get behind that is if we were trading a 4th or 5th round pick for him and using it as a salary dump for the Steelers and plans of us getting a 3rd round comp pick out of it. Which isn't a realistic scenario at all
Post by: Johnny English on September 24, 2018, 04:36:44 PM
I don't get why you're talking about a future 3rd round pick comparing him to Bell. If we traded for Bell he's under contract for this year and this year alone, and then hes an UFA with no incentive to sign with us other than scouts honor (and considering he's under contract with the Steelers right now and freaking them over would you really trust him?)
A 3rd round pick would be far less talented,m almost certainly. But he would be under contract with the Jets for 4 years for next to nothing. Bell would just eat up millions of dollars to play offense this year, an offense he doesn't even know, with his top priority being staying healthy and not his performance, and then contractually could do anything he wanted.
If we were a contender I could understand it. If we were gonna trade for him and get him for 4 years under a monster contract I would disagree with it but again understand the logic.
But to trade for him with no guarantees of anything but him playing the remainder of this season? Makes absolutely zero freaking sense. The only way I could get behind that is if we were trading a 4th or 5th round pick for him and using it as a salary dump for the Steelers and plans of us getting a 3rd round comp pick out of it. Which isn't a realistic scenario at all
Because it's money we don't need this season. Come the Spring we then have to do an extension with him, which we would hopefully have pre-agreed. If he decides to go and hit FA and someone else gives him a fuckton of money then we get a 3rd round comp to replace the one we gave to Pitt.
Effectively we're either giving up a 3rd for an elite talent on a long term deal, or we're trading down a few spots in the 3rd to get an elite vet who helps the team and Darnold in particular during his rookie season. I'm struggling to see much downside here. I think there's even a chance that Pitt take less than a 3rd, because any pick received in the trade is for 2019 while a comp won't come until 2020.
Post by: MBGreen on September 24, 2018, 04:37:43 PM
Or a team that is already shorthanded in the RB corps and is likely losing its #1 back to age-related free agency at the end of the season.We don’t have a gaping hole at the HB position
I get why people don't think he makes sense as a rental for this season - he might not be in shape and we're not contending for anything this year. I even get why people are reluctant to give up a pick for him, although I honestly don't think we're going to draft anyone remotely as talented in the 3rd round next year, and as I've already pointed out we are going to need to add at least one back next year anyway. But I don't know why folks are so dead set against adding elite players when we have cash to burn and a gaping hole at the position.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 24, 2018, 04:38:14 PM
Post by: Johnny English on September 24, 2018, 04:39:28 PM
We don’t have a gaping hole at the HB position
You're right, 30 year old impending FA Bilal Powell is the future of this team.
Dcm is right. Even if we wanted to sign him to a long term deal, we can't until next year. He's under no obligation to do such. In fact he'd be better off hitting free agency. He's a rental if we trade for him this year.
See post above.
Post by: dcm1602 on September 24, 2018, 04:46:32 PM
Because it's money we don't need this season. Come the Spring we then have to do an extension with him, which we would hopefully have pre-agreed. If he decides to go and hit FA and someone else gives him a fuckton of money then we get a 3rd round comp to replace the one we gave to Pitt.
Effectively we're either giving up a 3rd for an elite talent on a long term deal, or we're trading down a few spots in the 3rd to get an elite vet who helps the team and Darnold in particular during his rookie season. I'm struggling to see much downside here. I think there's even a chance that Pitt take less than a 3rd, because any pick received in the trade is for 2019 while a comp won't come until 2020.
You do know that Bell will be an UFA after this season right? And they we could just sign him as one and save the 3rd round pick, as the Steelers can't even sign him to an extension. Why would we trade for an extremely disgruntled RB that we can't extend until he's an UFA? If we traded for him and he tore his ACL do you think we're gonna honor a backroom deal? He's going to give us the same respect. And we have 90 million to spend this off-season, I have to imagine there's a very good chance we wouldn't qualify to get that 3rd round compensatory pick back assuming we go out and sign some big ticket free agents.
If you wanna argue that we don't need the money that's one thing, but we absolutely need draft picks. This teams thin everywhere, and we can't afford to pee away draft picks.
But I still don't see what the Jets could do to make Bell not extremely disgruntled. And why the freak we'd give up draft picks to and a ton of cash for an extremely disgruntled guy that wouldn't have his heart in the game or be guaranteed to be here longer than this season.
There's just nothing about your suggestions that makes sense to me
Post by: bojanglesman on September 24, 2018, 04:47:51 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on September 24, 2018, 04:52:49 PM
Post by: MBGreen on September 24, 2018, 04:52:55 PM
You're right, 30 year old impending FA Bilal Powell is the future of this team.We’re fine with Crowell and either McGuire or a HB draft pick next year.
See post above.
Pope is right... the jets will probably give bell a boatload of money and he won’t be motivated.
I don’t like how his situation is playing out in Pittsburgh...it stinks of red flags
Post by: Johnny English on September 24, 2018, 04:55:44 PM
You do know that Bell will be an UFA after this season right? And they we could just sign him as one and save the 3rd round pick, as the Steelers can't even sign him to an extension. Why would we trade for an extremely disgruntled RB that we can't extend until he's an UFA? If we traded for him and he tore his ACL do you think we're gonna honor a backroom deal? He's going to give us the same respect. And we have 90 million to spend this off-season, I have to imagine there's a very good chance we wouldn't qualify to get that 3rd round compensatory pick back assuming we go out and sign some big ticket free agents.
If you wanna argue that we don't need the money that's one thing, but we absolutely need draft picks. This teams thin everywhere, and we can't afford to pee away draft picks.
But I still don't see what the Jets could do to make Bell not extremely disgruntled. And why the freak we'd give up draft picks to and a ton of cash for an extremely disgruntled guy that wouldn't have his heart in the game or be guaranteed to be here longer than this season.
There's just nothing about your suggestions that makes sense to me
Clearly. There's a whole bunch of points to unpack here, lots of which are just noise:
- You do know that Bell will be an UFA after this season right? And they we could just sign him as one and save the 3rd round pick, as the Steelers can't even sign him to an extension.
I do know that. It has been mentioned several times. I even responded to it. I don't see a problem with a) getting him in now to see if we and he both like each other, and b) stealing a march on everyone else.
- Why would we trade for an extremely disgruntled RB that we can't extend until he's an UFA?
He's extremely disgruntled because his current team won't give him the deal he wants. If we're willing to, then he wouldn't be disgruntled any more.
- If we traded for him and he tore his ACL do you think we're gonna honor a backroom deal? He's going to give us the same respect.
Well, of course. If he can't play football then we're not going to pay him like an elite football player. That's why I'm not demanding $15M a year to run into fat men for the Jets. If you're arguing that without a long term deal in place he's not going to play for anyone at all this year, regardless of whether he's traded, then I don't know what to say because I haven't heard that. He has to actually report for six games or he isn't a free agent.
- And we have 90 million to spend this off-season, I have to imagine there's a very good chance we wouldn't qualify to get that 3rd round compensatory pick back assuming we go out and sign some big ticket free agents.
What are we going to spend it on? Maybe an elite running back? We kinda need one of those.
- If you wanna argue that we don't need the money that's one thing, but we absolutely need draft picks. This teams thin everywhere, and we can't afford to pee away draft picks.
But we're going to have to spend a draft pick on a running back. So it's kinda moot.
Post by: dcm1602 on September 24, 2018, 04:56:07 PM
We’re fine with Crowell and either McGuire or a HB draft pick next year.
Pope is right... the jets will probably give bell a boatload of money and he won’t be motivated.
I don’t like how his situation is playing out in Pittsburgh...it stinks of red flags
Knowing the story of Bilals career. We will wait until after the draft and then just resign him for dogshit
The guy has been sparingly used over the years, so I don't see why he couldn't play another 2 years and be more than useful.
If the value is there in the draft, then it's been nice knowing ya. Although Crowell is a fucktard so I wouldn't be upset letting him go either
Post by: bojanglesman on September 24, 2018, 04:57:49 PM
For every team, there will come a time where cash isn't plentiful.
Post by: Pope on September 24, 2018, 05:28:32 PM
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Post by: Johnny English on September 24, 2018, 05:54:09 PM
In all seriousness you're probably right, without game play or even team training he's almost certainly not ready to come in and play immediately. I would hope he's kept himself in sharp enough condition that a week or so of training with a team would see him good to go.
Post by: Laxin on September 24, 2018, 07:34:59 PM
Teams aren't going to want to give up much for a player who hasn't stepped on the field, will only play for half a season and can't be signed to an extension.
The steelers aren't going to want to sell him off for basically nothing. I would assume their minimum compensation is a 2nd round pick, and I'm not sure teams will want to give up that for half a season of a potentially out-of-shape RB.
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 24, 2018, 07:45:57 PM
I honestly don't see him being traded.The only teams it makes any sense for are those contending for a Super Bowl and get a running back injury. And even then, several teams don't have or can't easily make cap space for Bell's salary on the tag.
Teams aren't going to want to give up much for a player who hasn't stepped on the field, will only play for half a season and can't be signed to an extension.
The steelers aren't going to want to sell him off for basically nothing. I would assume their minimum compensation is a 2nd round pick, and I'm not sure teams will want to give up that for half a season of a potentially out-of-shape RB.
It definitely makes zero sense for the Jets to give up anything of value for him for this year's roster. If they want to sign him in the offseason, that's a different argument. It makes no sense to give up draft capital AND cap space for a running back.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 24, 2018, 08:32:49 PM
In the end, some playoff contender will take him on as a rental and the Steelers will have to take less than they want just to get rid of him.
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 25, 2018, 10:18:20 AM
Talent is great, but he's wrapped in a blanket made of red flags.
Mo Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson have a lot of talent too, and this team chose locker-room character over their ability. Bell is showing himself to be a WR-diva-level character. Thanks, but no thanks.
Post by: Heismanberg on September 25, 2018, 10:21:38 AM
Post by: Laxin on September 25, 2018, 10:25:53 AM
Reasonably 60M/4...
He's not sniffing 100M
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 25, 2018, 10:31:07 AM
(https://memegenerator.net/img/images/10071499.jpg)
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 25, 2018, 10:39:22 AM
I love the guy, and with a decent OL, he'd be a ridiculous weapon for a young QB. But the Jets don't have a decent offensive line.
Post by: dcm1602 on September 25, 2018, 11:03:46 AM
No one is giving him $100M, and he knew that when he said it (albeit likely jokingly--at least somewhat). That was before the Jets drafted Darnold, so who knows if that changes his opinion, but regardless, he's playing the Revis-esque mercenary role right now, and I don't recall even Revis sitting out a month of a season over a contract.
I love the guy, and with a decent OL, he'd be a ridiculous weapon for a young QB. But the Jets don't have a decent offensive line.
In Bells defense he plays the most brutal position in the NFL, has gotten the most touches in the league the last 2 years, and has had to play on the franchise tag in back to back years. It's a very rare position that he's put into. I mean how often do players get back to back tags? Cousin did but he plays a position that gets coddled and he was rewarded with 84 million guaranteed and will have a chance to blow that contract away in 2 years and change.
I know Bell seems like an poopchute, but I think hes actually being fairly reasonable. If the Steelers gave him 450 touches this year the dude would be a free agent with no guarantees while being severely beaten and battered
Post by: dcm1602 on September 25, 2018, 11:29:15 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 25, 2018, 11:45:12 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on September 25, 2018, 11:45:25 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on September 25, 2018, 11:45:49 AM
Get this guy just so I can call him Me’Veon BellLe'Meon
Post by: dcm1602 on September 25, 2018, 12:29:49 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if he just comes back week 10 and plays out the season. Who knows if the Steelers even play him. Basically he gets paid 5-6 games' salary for a rest year. That will be an uncomfortable situation for that team. No one on that team wants him there. The Steelers might have to take less for him in trade value to avoid that. I think the Steelers either get a later round pick for him or they take him back week 10 and bench him.
Apparently the thought is the Earl Thomas situation is going to be something to watch for guys like Bell. He's reporting to games, but skipping all practices and looking out for himself first and foremost. This could be a new type of holdout to get around the CBA rules and give players newfound leverage in contract negotiations
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 25, 2018, 12:40:43 PM
I just see a lot more reasons why the Jets shouldn't trade for him than I do in favor of it. Again, as talented as he is, what's he going to do behind this offensive line? He'll get clobbered. And that leads to my biggest issue with him coming here. He's made it known publicly that his intention is to protect his health this year in preparation for free agency. What motivation would he have to put in any effort here with this team's blocking?
Post by: MBGreen on September 25, 2018, 01:14:27 PM
Le'Meon
Meadowlark Le'mon
Post by: reuben on December 31, 2018, 03:56:20 PM
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CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports Antonio Brown's "heated dispute" was with Ben Roethlisberger, resulting in Brown's Week 17 inactivity.
This report was echoed by The Athletic's Mark Kaboly. The football Brown allegedly threw "at a teammate" was directed at Roethlisberger, and Brown made his own decision to stay away from the team on Thursday and Friday. The Steelers did not let him play in Sunday's game. This is nothing a small pay raise wouldn't cure, and each NFL team will be adding $10 million to its salary cap in 2019.
Trade him for a 5th.
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 31, 2018, 04:30:50 PM
Trade him for a 5th.
Santonio 2.0
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 31, 2018, 06:56:59 PM
Trade a 4th for him?
Post by: Pope on December 31, 2018, 11:49:24 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on January 01, 2019, 01:17:55 AM
He’s a great player but I’d prefer not having any more cancer on this team
If you want 53 choir boys, I just don’t think it’s possible to win without a little bit of trash (or a lot). Brown would be an incredible add for Sams development. Similar, but clearly far superior than when we brought Braylon into help Sanchez.
We need some “dawgs” according to Adams, Brown qualifies.
Post by: insanity on January 01, 2019, 01:33:46 PM
If you want 53 choir boys, I just don’t think it’s possible to win without a little bit of trash (or a lot). Brown would be an incredible add for Sams development. Similar, but clearly far superior than when we brought Braylon into help Sanchez.
We need some “dawgs” according to Adams, Brown qualifies.
I'm fine with bringing in a few me guys to get the job done, but we aren't there yet.
IMO you do this when you're a step away from a superbowl with a cheap contract. Not when you're coming off a 4-12 season you have 0 offensive leadership and the player is getting 15mil a year.
Hard no
Post by: reuben on January 01, 2019, 01:35:11 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on January 01, 2019, 01:45:18 PM
https://nypost.com/2019/01/01/ex-steelers-star-ryan-clark-turns-on-monster-antonio-brown/?utm_source=reddit.com (https://nypost.com/2019/01/01/ex-steelers-star-ryan-clark-turns-on-monster-antonio-brown/?utm_source=reddit.com)
Sounds like more than just one team with crazy arrogant bastards on it.
When these guys get paid it all goes to their heads. I have to imagine very few of the guys getting “big” money are still good people
Post by: reuben on January 01, 2019, 01:51:00 PM
Exciting new year in Pittsburgh.
It should be taken into account that Mike Tomlin and Ben Roethlisberger are cunts.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 01, 2019, 01:52:10 PM
Antonio Brown Cap Charge to @steelers in 2019:
On Roster: $22.1 million
Off Roster: $21.1 million
Translation: he's not going anywhere.
Post by: Johnny English on January 01, 2019, 01:56:47 PM
Andrew Brandt:
Antonio Brown Cap Charge to @steelers in 2019:
On Roster: $22.1 million
Off Roster: $21.1 million
Translation: he's not going anywhere.
He's not getting cut. He could be traded, although I grant you that it's a contract that will scare most teams.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 01, 2019, 02:20:05 PM
He's not getting cut. He could be traded, although I grant you that it's a contract that will scare most teams.From what I've read, even if he's traded it's the same dead money because of the way his contract is structured. It was a signing bonus, so once it's paid, it can't be paid by another team.
Post by: Johnny English on January 01, 2019, 02:43:41 PM
From what I've read, even if he's traded it's the same dead money because of the way his contract is structured. It was a signing bonus, so once it's paid, it can't be paid by another team.
Huh, didn't realise he'd got a load of prorated bonus hitting their cap. I stand corrected then, you're right - seems unlikely they trade him if they still have to eat the cap space. Although that presumably means he costs his new team comparatively little in wages, so maybe he becomes more interesting to a team with little cap space that's close to contending, and willing to give up a first round pick to get him as a difference maker.
Or the Raiders, because they could do literally anything for reasons that no one actually understands.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 01, 2019, 02:50:28 PM
Huh, didn't realise he'd got a load of prorated bonus hitting their cap. I stand corrected then, you're right - seems unlikely they trade him if they still have to eat the cap space. Although that presumably means he costs his new team comparatively little in wages, so maybe he becomes more interesting to a team with little cap space that's close to contending, and willing to give up a first round pick to get him as a difference maker.Yeah, I guess a team could give up a high pick or 2 for him. I think it would have to be higher picks because the Steelers would be giving up an elite talent and eating a excrement ton of money. I can't see any team giving up enough to make it worthwhile for the Steelers.
Or the Raiders, because they could do literally anything for reasons that no one actually understands.
Post by: Johnny English on January 01, 2019, 03:18:50 PM
Yeah, I guess a team could give up a high pick or 2 for him. I think it would have to be higher picks because the Steelers would be giving up an elite talent and eating a excrement ton of money. I can't see any team giving up enough to make it worthwhile for the Steelers.
Apparently if he's traded post June 1st the Steelers' cap hit drops to $7M, and the team trading for him would take on $15M. I don't know how or why, I'm just reading excrement on /r/nfl.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 07, 2019, 05:49:05 PM
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#Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin announces he’s not renewing RBs coach James Saxon. Definitely befuddling to me. As far as I know, he was beloved. And respected. And @LeVeonBell and @JamesConner_ definitely performed under his tutelage.
Guy clearly wasn’t getting the job done
Post by: Gorilla on January 07, 2019, 05:51:51 PM
Guy clearly wasn’t getting the job done
I know.
Not one 2,000 yard rusher under his watch. Shame.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 11, 2019, 09:31:03 AM
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Alright, I’ll end the mystery... B’s racist and @AB84’s black. He had to catch balls from a racist quarterback. Every honest player knows it, it’s not a big deal. He was just supposed to take his lickings and move on, like a slave for real.
Rashard Mendenhall
Post by: MBGreen on April 11, 2019, 09:36:29 AM
Rashard Mendenhall
hahaha what?
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 11, 2019, 09:38:44 AM
hahaha what?
Check out his TL, v quality content
Post by: MBGreen on April 11, 2019, 09:46:34 AM
Check out his TL, v quality content
i heard Mendenhall was a lunatic
Post by: reuben on April 11, 2019, 11:11:43 AM
Post by: Johnny English on April 11, 2019, 12:34:45 PM
That club is a complete mess right now. It's very bizarre.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 11, 2019, 01:25:10 PM
Apparently Mendenhall walked it back and said he was just using it as an example of how easy it is to accuse people of things or somesuch horseshit, and now known peacemakers and righteous dudes Ramon Foster and Maurkice Pouncey are appealing to other Steelers players to keep their excrement inside the walls and stop talking to the media.
That club is a complete mess right now. It's very bizarre.
Pretty sure Pouncey defended Rapelisberger after the rape
Post by: Johnny English on April 11, 2019, 01:28:07 PM
Pretty sure Pouncey defended Rapelisberger after the rape
I believe he was also a gangbanger with Hernandez. He's a real humanitarian.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 11, 2019, 01:39:05 PM
I believe he was also a gangbanger with Hernandez. He's a real humanitarian.
Let’s not lose sight of the fact that Bell is the real scumbag here for sitting out for contract security
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 11, 2019, 01:41:39 PM
This is SUCH bullshit after the way the Steelers locker room put Bell on blast all over the media and recorded themselves clearing out his locker and giving away his stuff. Keep that stuff in the locker room, amirite?
Post by: reuben on April 11, 2019, 03:06:05 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ramonfoster/status/1116337269865107456
This is SUCH bullshit after the way the Steelers locker room put Bell on blast all over the media and recorded themselves clearing out his locker and giving away his stuff. Keep that stuff in the locker room, amirite?
Might be the two biggest bootlicking stooges in the NFL.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 20, 2020, 09:41:30 PM
I’m pretty sure he’s just keeping this assortment of people hostage
Post by: reuben on March 20, 2020, 10:34:05 PM
https://twitter.com/steelers/status/1241151546739621889?s=21
I’m pretty sure he’s just keeping this assortment of people hostage
Day 1 of the Quarantine for most of the US, year six for Big Ben
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 15, 2020, 12:32:18 PM
Not expecting much to come of it, just further evidence of Harrison being one of the dumber people walking around the world.
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2020/05/14/james-harrison-mike-tomlin-comments-steelers-nfl-bounties/stories/202005140147 (https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2020/05/14/james-harrison-mike-tomlin-comments-steelers-nfl-bounties/stories/202005140147)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 23, 2020, 10:39:14 PM
Post by: MBGreen on June 24, 2020, 06:53:41 AM
https://twitter.com/ruiterwrongfan/status/1275586607182221313?s=21
what about the rape addiction?
Post by: bojanglesman on June 24, 2020, 08:02:36 AM
what about the rape addiction?Ummm .... that's homemade porn.
Post by: Johnny English on June 24, 2020, 08:36:12 AM
https://twitter.com/ruiterwrongfan/status/1275586607182221313?s=21
You could just say "coming out of lockdown", Ben.
Post by: delavan on June 24, 2020, 03:21:33 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 24, 2020, 08:03:24 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on June 24, 2020, 08:43:49 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 24, 2020, 08:48:56 PM
Think Ben banged the fat nurse sitting behind us?
I don't think he'd turn it down.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 25, 2020, 06:10:22 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 07, 2020, 08:37:37 AM
Post by: MBGreen on January 21, 2021, 10:24:51 AM
@diannaESPN
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The Pittsburgh Steelers interviewed former Browns Head Coach Hue Jackson earlier this week for the offensive coordinator position per a league source.
Post by: Johnny English on January 21, 2021, 12:45:12 PM
Post by: Johnny English on February 17, 2021, 12:34:50 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on February 17, 2021, 12:38:10 PM
Increasingly starting to sound like Roethlisberger might not be back.
Trade them Darnold now
Post by: Johnny English on February 17, 2021, 12:43:01 PM
Trade them Darnold now
No.
Post by: MBGreen on February 18, 2021, 07:33:13 AM
No.
Yes infinity
Post by: Johnny English on March 04, 2021, 09:13:01 PM
Post by: MBGreen on March 09, 2021, 10:41:12 AM
@AdamSchefter
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LB Bud Dupree, Pittsburgh’s franchise player last year, has been informed that he will not be franchised again this year, per league source. Dupree is headed to free agency.
Post by: Heismanberg on March 09, 2021, 10:49:00 AM
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
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LB Bud Dupree, Pittsburgh’s franchise player last year, has been informed that he will not be franchised again this year, per league source. Dupree is headed to free agency.
oooooh
Post by: MBGreen on March 23, 2021, 01:01:09 PM
@TomPelissero
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The #Steelers have released CB Steven Nelson.
go get em, Joe
Post by: bojanglesman on March 23, 2021, 01:08:38 PM
Tom PelisseroDo it.
@TomPelissero
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The #Steelers have released CB Steven Nelson.
go get em, Joe
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 24, 2021, 02:09:18 PM
https://www.tmz.com/2021/03/24/nfl-chase-claypool-kicks-man-in-face-in-wild-bar-fight-caught-on-video/ (https://www.tmz.com/2021/03/24/nfl-chase-claypool-kicks-man-in-face-in-wild-bar-fight-caught-on-video/)
Post by: MBGreen on April 20, 2021, 09:12:57 AM
@steelers
· 1h
We have signed Coach Mike Tomlin to a three-year contract extension.
Post by: MBGreen on June 24, 2021, 03:02:04 PM
@TomPelissero
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The #Steelers released veteran guard David DeCastro.
I still remember drafting him for the Jets in our 3 round mock draft years ago.
Post by: Heismanberg on June 24, 2021, 03:03:23 PM
om Pelissero
@TomPelissero
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The #Steelers released veteran guard David DeCastro.
I still remember drafting him for the Jets in our 3 round mock draft years ago.
Sign that beast
Post by: Johnny English on June 24, 2021, 03:04:25 PM
om Pelissero
@TomPelissero
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The #Steelers released veteran guard David DeCastro.
I still remember drafting him for the Jets in our 3 round mock draft years ago.
Instead we took Quinton Coples.
Post by: MBGreen on June 24, 2021, 03:04:56 PM
Instead we took Quinton Coples.
your buddy Rex Ryan did....
Post by: Johnny English on June 24, 2021, 03:07:39 PM
your buddy Rex Ryan did....
Yes, "my buddy". SMH.
Post by: MBGreen on June 24, 2021, 03:08:00 PM
Yes, "my buddy". SMH.
i knew it
Post by: MBGreen on June 24, 2021, 03:09:20 PM
Sign that beast
I would cut Van Roten and sign big Dave immediately.
Post by: Johnny English on June 24, 2021, 03:09:59 PM
I would cut Van Roten and sign big Dave immediately.
Sounds like he might retire, apparently he's still having problems with his ankle.
Post by: Badger on June 24, 2021, 03:14:14 PM
Sounds like he might retire, apparently he's still having problems with his ankle.Yeah I can't see the Steelers releasing him if he's still able to play at an above average level.
Post by: MBGreen on June 24, 2021, 03:14:52 PM
Sounds like he might retire, apparently he's still having problems with his ankle.
Yeah I can't see the Steelers releasing him if he's still able to play at an above average level.
grand opening, grand exit.
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 24, 2021, 03:36:02 PM
Post by: Andrew Ryan on June 24, 2021, 03:58:38 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 24, 2021, 04:14:13 PM
That offensive line is in shambles. Ben should just retire...
That would be rhe smart move but brains aren't Roethlisberger's strong trait.
Personally I'd rather see him get Heismaned/Smithed.
Post by: Libero_2 on June 24, 2021, 05:24:21 PM
Sign that beast
Would happily sign DeCastro and Moses without even a second thought.
Obviously he needs to be healthy, but if he can be, both guys would drastically improve this line. I just think about what Pete Kendall and Alan Faneca did for our young OL guys for a couple of years and how critical that was to their development
Post by: Johnny English on June 25, 2021, 01:17:50 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on June 25, 2021, 03:34:28 PM
Post by: Johnny English on July 15, 2021, 12:52:38 PM
https://www.8newsnow.com/sports/local-sports/steelers-qb-haskins-loses-a-tooth-wife-arrested-after-dispute-at-the-cosmopolitan/
Post by: bojanglesman on July 15, 2021, 01:04:00 PM
Everything about this guy is an absolute disaster.Poor man's Geno Smith.
https://www.8newsnow.com/sports/local-sports/steelers-qb-haskins-loses-a-tooth-wife-arrested-after-dispute-at-the-cosmopolitan/
Post by: Johnny English on July 15, 2021, 01:09:49 PM
Poor man's Geno Smith.
Other than the whole Ik Enemkpali incident I don't recall Geno particularly being a problem child; he was just not very good, drafted by the wrong team, and completely mishandled. The Haskins comparable is more JaMarcus Russell without the insane arm talent, I think.
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 15, 2021, 05:05:08 PM
Other than the whole Ik Enemkpali incident I don't recall Geno particularly being a problem child; he was just not very good, drafted by the wrong team, and completely mishandled. The Haskins comparable is more JaMarcus Russell without the insane arm talent, I think.
A little from Column A and a little from Column B.
Post by: Heismanberg on July 15, 2021, 09:24:02 PM
Post by: MBGreen on September 09, 2021, 03:47:18 PM
@RapSheet
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Sources: The #Steelers and star pass-rusher TJ Watt have a mega-deal. He’s going to sign a 4-year extension worth more than $112M — $28.003M average per year — with $80M fully guaranteed at signing. The highest paid defensive player in football.
umm...holy excrement
Post by: Johnny English on September 09, 2021, 03:48:29 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on September 09, 2021, 04:41:28 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on September 09, 2021, 04:59:25 PM
If anything Mahomes is at high risk of being criminally underpaid
Post by: Badger on March 17, 2022, 12:05:51 PM
Post by: Johnny English on March 17, 2022, 12:19:53 PM
https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1504503870034264065?t=PePKRWTKpOOcKODLQZwHzQ&s=19
"Just so you know, you call me Mitchell and you're getting no targets on Sunday"
Post by: Heismanberg on March 17, 2022, 12:20:57 PM
Post by: Badger on March 17, 2022, 12:24:32 PM
I thought he wanted to be called Mitchell??-2017: Mitch
2017-2022: Mitchell
2022-??: Mitch
Post by: bojanglesman on March 17, 2022, 12:25:44 PM
Post by: Badger on March 17, 2022, 12:26:54 PM
Bitch Trubisky it is.The real answer
Post by: Heismanberg on March 17, 2022, 12:42:01 PM
Post by: Badger on July 11, 2022, 08:48:17 AM
https://twitter.com/ThePoniExpress/status/1546474758912581632?t=vL3Sy0h5lpu7L6fGfcqSWg&s=19
Post by: Johnny English on September 06, 2022, 12:04:29 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 18, 2022, 06:59:23 PM
Post by: Badger on September 21, 2022, 01:51:24 PM
https://triblive.com/sports/george-pickens-is-open-for-business-yet-steelers-arent-getting-him-the-ball/
Post by: dcm1602 on September 22, 2022, 01:53:54 AM
Post by: MBGreen on September 22, 2022, 07:24:25 AM
Steelers seem to love to draft a very specific type of wideout
Limas Sweed?
Post by: Libero_2 on September 22, 2022, 04:24:08 PM
Steelers seem to love to draft a very specific type of wideout
Super athletic. super poopchute-y
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 27, 2022, 02:02:39 PM
Post by: Badger on October 03, 2022, 07:54:15 PM
Post by: IATA on October 10, 2022, 11:41:41 AM
https://imgur.com/a/oKOYMBt
Post by: Heismanberg on October 10, 2022, 11:51:34 AM
My neighbor has given up
https://imgur.com/a/oKOYMBt
mint his lawn
Post by: Badger on December 17, 2022, 12:09:49 PM
Post by: Badger on December 31, 2022, 09:40:22 PM
a man in a striped shirt holding a skateboard, a jigsaw puzzle, inspired by Bruce Gilden, she has a jiggly fat round belly, standing in a stadium, pittsburgh, number 31 on jersey, unsettling photo, heidi, 8 1 5, neckbeard, actual photo, scowl, extra greasy
Post by: reuben on April 18, 2023, 04:00:25 PM
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Steelers acquired WR Allen Robinson and a seventh-round pick from the Rams for a seventh-round pick.
The Rams will pay $10.25 million of Robinson's $15.25 million salary and bump up 17 spots in the draft, from 251 to 234. Robinson fits in as the third wideout next to George Pickens and Diontae Johnson, with Johnson likely the best body fit to run most of the slot routes in the offense, though that will rotate. Robinson will remain only a deep-league dart throw in as a lower rung receiver on an offense that struggled for most of last season. The Steelers are likely hoping they're able to squeeze some red zone production out of him after they floundered there last season.
The ol' salary dump.
Allen Robinson and JC Jackson are two of the biggest free agency bullets we've dodged in recent years.
Post by: bojanglesman on November 03, 2023, 05:48:23 PM
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After posting "Free Me", George Pickens deleted all the #Steelers posts on his Instagram and changed his Steelers pfp to one from his high school days.
https://brobible.com/sports/article/steelers-george-pickens-social-media/
Pickens also apparently unfollowed QB Kenny Pickett, coach Mike Tomlin and the Steelers official account.
This is following a win over the #Titans... although he had -1 yard receiving on two catches.
They should send him to the Giants so he can see real misery. Scared straight.
Post by: d sw0rdz on November 03, 2023, 06:21:58 PM
https://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1720547621985485122?s=20
They should send him to the Giants so he can see real misery. Scared straight.
i like carl pickens' son's talent and i'd take him here but this is essentially the steelers version of the elijah moore outburst
Post by: Libero_2 on November 03, 2023, 06:59:58 PM
i like carl pickens' son's talent and i'd take him here but this is essentially the steelers version of the elijah moore outburstthis is literally 1-2 weeks too late. He is stuck there unless he is such a douchenozzle they outright cut his derriere, which seems quite unlikely
Post by: Johnny English on November 03, 2023, 07:35:25 PM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/pit/pittsburgh-steelers
Diva lady garden.
Post by: Libero_2 on November 03, 2023, 08:41:36 PM
He also has by far the most targets on the team - 58 through 8 games, Johnson and Warren second on 35.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/pit/pittsburgh-steelers
Diva lady garden.
I also don’t think he’s all that good. He’s certainly a good WR but he’s not exactly on a HOF trajectory. He doesn’t have the clout to be this big of a dick
Post by: Heismanberg on November 03, 2023, 08:50:07 PM
I also don’t think he’s all that good. He’s certainly a good WR but he’s not exactly on a HOF trajectory. He doesn’t have the clout to be this big of a dick
He is an elite talent with a peanut sized brain
Post by: reuben on November 03, 2023, 08:59:54 PM
elite talent with a peanut sized brain
This is on a plaque in the Steelers WR room
Post by: Johnny English on November 03, 2023, 09:12:22 PM
This is on a plaque in the Steelers WR roomThe plaque for the alternates is in the ladies room.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 15, 2023, 12:47:18 PM
Steelers have been outgained in every game they’ve played in and are 6-3
https://x.com/alex_kozora/status/1724497995599692101?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Post by: Johnny English on November 18, 2023, 04:43:55 PM
- Dorian Thompson-Robinson
- Jake Browning
- Kyler Murray
- Mac Jones
- Gardner Minshew
Post by: Heismanberg on November 18, 2023, 04:44:15 PM
Steelers' likely next 5 opposing QBs:
- Dorian Thompson-Robinson
- Jake Browning
- Kyler Murray
- Mac Jones
- Gardner Minshew
Mike Tomlin masterclass
Post by: Badger on November 18, 2023, 05:33:43 PM
https://x.com/alex_kozora/status/1724497995599692101?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Steelers' likely next 5 opposing QBs:Lucky SOBs
- Dorian Thompson-Robinson
- Jake Browning
- Kyler Murray
- Mac Jones
- Gardner Minshew
Post by: MBGreen on November 21, 2023, 07:48:22 AM
@AdamSchefter
Steelers fired offensive coordinator Matt Canada.
Post by: loyaljetsfan on November 21, 2023, 07:54:07 AM
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Steelers fired offensive coordinator Matt Canada.
This is what happens when a franchise is run properly. Underperform and you're gone.
Instead we have a attention whore owner pulling strings which has neutered the control of the GM and HC
Post by: MBGreen on November 21, 2023, 07:56:33 AM
This is what happens when a franchise is run properly. Underperform and you're gone.
Instead we have a attention whore owner pulling strings which has neutered the control of the GM and HC
I was just sitting here thinking...the Steelers are in the thick of a playoff hunt and are above .500. the Jets FO would've handed Matt Canada a 5 yr extension. Good on Tomlin, hold people accountable. This excrement would never happen here.
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 21, 2023, 08:34:23 AM
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Steelers fired offensive coordinator Matt Canada.
You can do this?
In season?!
Post by: Badger on November 21, 2023, 08:36:36 AM
You can do this?According to Steelers fans this guy was like triple-Hitler.
In season?!
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 21, 2023, 08:44:26 AM
Post by: Johnny English on November 21, 2023, 09:09:13 AM
Post by: Miamipuck on November 21, 2023, 09:48:05 AM
Post by: MBGreen on November 21, 2023, 12:07:57 PM
ahaha
Post by: MBGreen on January 30, 2024, 01:31:34 PM
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Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero
The #Steelers are expected to hire former #Falcons coach Arthur Smith as their offensive coordinator, per sources.
Smith had a top run game as #Titans OC before heading to Atlanta three years ago. Now he’ll be coaching Najee Harris, Jaylen Warren and company in Pittsburgh.
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 07, 2024, 02:30:10 PM
They also plan on bringing in Russell Wilson for a visit.
Post by: Heismanberg on March 07, 2024, 03:49:27 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 07, 2024, 03:59:08 PM
I wonder if we could get Pickett for a mid-rounder if they sign Wilson
Could just send them Wilson and act like we're doing each other a favor.
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 08, 2024, 01:02:37 PM
Patrick Peterson looking for a new job.
Post by: bojanglesman on March 11, 2024, 06:50:45 AM
Post by: MBGreen on March 11, 2024, 09:02:48 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on March 11, 2024, 09:32:24 AM
Post by: Badger on March 11, 2024, 06:21:39 PM
Scarysteelernurse.jpg(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240311/cc2ae3e1cf8784331deffcd40d8454b9.jpg)
Post by: Heismanberg on March 17, 2024, 01:40:40 PM
Fields for a 2025 6th that can elevate to a 4th rounder is horrendous value.
https://x.com/Reflog_18/status/1769141208134086903?s=20
Post by: Libero_2 on March 17, 2024, 04:51:47 PM
We hate Justin Fields so much here that we didn't even post his trade.
Fields for a 2025 6th that can elevate to a 4th rounder is horrendous value.
https://x.com/Reflog_18/status/1769141208134086903?s=20
Remember everyone suggesting that they keep Fields and pass on Caleb Williams? Much like our move with Sam, Caleb may be a disaster, but it’s time to move on. Unfortunately for us, this also means Zach isn’t even worth a 226 7th rounder conditional on him being on their 2025 roster.
Cutting him is the only way it’s going to end. Might as well do it sooner rather than later. But I get the sense JD will wait until the draft for a dance partner that he knows isn’t coming