Post by: Badger on April 27, 2017, 07:53:35 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktuijMDwsh8
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Post by: Italian Seafood on April 27, 2017, 08:16:23 PM
#Lottery
Post by: Laxin on April 27, 2017, 08:18:18 PM
Post by: Fenwyr on April 27, 2017, 08:33:36 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 27, 2017, 08:59:14 PM
Adams says #Jets told him if he was still there at No. 6, they'd definitely take him. "They kept their word. They delivered." #NFLDraft
Dennis Waszak Jr.Verified account @DWAZ73 2m2 minutes ago
Adams says he was "definitely surprised" he slid to No. 6, but says "everything happens for a reason." #Jets
Post by: Badger on April 27, 2017, 09:17:51 PM
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Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 27, 2017, 09:47:24 PM
Brian Dawkins 2.0
I've heard Sean Taylor, Eric Berry, and Brian Dawkins. All of these things are really good
Post by: Fenwyr on April 27, 2017, 09:54:04 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 27, 2017, 09:54:47 PM
Quote
Calvin Pryor III
Welcome my brother @TheAdams_era 💯💯 let's get it 😈
Well, at least Pryor is a good sport
Post by: bojanglesman on April 27, 2017, 10:49:39 PM
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Post by: bojanglesman on April 27, 2017, 10:59:49 PM
Very similar to the Williams situation a couple years ago. Obvious choice and a steal of a pick.
Yep. Williams was even more of a steal, but harder pick to make because of what we already had. This one was easier. Next to Garrett, probably the most predicatble pick of the night once on the board,
Post by: Andrew Ryan on April 27, 2017, 11:01:16 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on April 27, 2017, 11:08:51 PM
Aside from somebody trading us a fortune, we got a great start to tonight.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 27, 2017, 11:13:58 PM
Hopefully we can pick up a corner tomorrow and complete the secondary makeover.
Kevin King would be nice
Post by: bojanglesman on April 27, 2017, 11:14:23 PM
I was just praying like hell he would be on the board. I knew Duff wouldn't pass on him. He was the guy I wanted for a long time.
Aside from somebody trading us a fortune, we got a great start to tonight.
Yep, he was the only realistic guy left that was not worth trading back if he was on the board.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 27, 2017, 11:17:35 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on April 27, 2017, 11:35:37 PM
I can't remember the last time we were all screaming for the same pick and it was actually made.
We want Sapp?
Marino?
Have we ever all wanted the same guy and had him taken?
Post by: Fenwyr on April 28, 2017, 12:06:48 AM
I can't remember the last time we were all screaming for the same pick and it was actually made.So true. I was thinking anout you guys when we were on the clock. Like, are we finally going to get one right?
Assuming we keep Pryor, which I hope we do... What kind of defense are we looking at. 3 DL, 3 LB, 2 SS, 1 FS, 2 CB?
I am not opposed to this look at all, because Adams or Pryor can make plays in the run game, but this pick doesn't upgrade us from Gilchrist.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 28, 2017, 12:08:56 AM
The stuff about him being a strong safety or a box safety needs to stop. He flies around and can be used all over the field without missing a beat.
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 28, 2017, 12:16:21 AM
Jamal Adams is a true safety. He isn't just a box safety. A lot of these plays he's making against the run are just amazing reads from centerfield. He is one of the best alley fillers that I've ever seen.This. He can play with Calvin Pryor...assuning we don't dump Pryor.
The stuff about him being a strong safety or a box safety needs to stop. He flies around and can be used all over the field without missing a beat.
Also, I think the last pick everyone loved and wanted before the draft was Wilkerson. People liked Kyle Wilson a lot, too
Post by: Heismanberg on April 28, 2017, 12:19:35 AM
This. He can play with Calvin Pryor...assuning we don't dump Pryor.
If Calvin Pryor stays on this team, Adams might get him right and save him from the mental mistakes that have caused the inconsistency we've seen from him.
We have a quarterback in our secondary now. A team first leader.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 28, 2017, 12:38:38 AM
Post by: mj2sexay on April 28, 2017, 12:41:25 AM
Turn on the Jets bundle of sticks crying that we didn't take Deshaun Watson at 6
I can't tell you how much I despise that lover of the older lady.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 28, 2017, 12:44:51 AM
I can't tell you how much I despise that lover of the older lady.
He really is a baby back bitch. We just got the second or third best overall player in the draft class with the sixth pick and he is going to whine that we didn't draft a spread quarterback.
Post by: Miamipuck on April 28, 2017, 01:00:00 AM
Post by: Fenwyr on April 28, 2017, 01:11:39 AM
Jamal Adams is a true safety. He isn't just a box safety. A lot of these plays he's making against the run are just amazing reads from centerfield. He is one of the best alley fillers that I've ever seen.I saw him making plenty of plays downfield in the video. I like that he protects his body and goes for form tackles rather than kill shots. He always seems to know where the ball is.
The stuff about him being a strong safety or a box safety needs to stop. He flies around and can be used all over the field without missing a beat.
He could probably play effectively at weakside LB, SS, FS, nickle CB. Seeing as Pryor was the only player in the secondary that seemed to give a excrement last year, I hope they become fast friends.
Post by: MBGreen on April 28, 2017, 06:12:43 AM
Turn on the Jets bundle of sticks crying that we didn't take Deshaun Watson at 6someone should run into a room with those guys holding a lit stick of dynamite.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 28, 2017, 06:14:23 AM
Puck should run into a room with those guys holding a lit stick of dynamite.
Post by: Koz on April 28, 2017, 06:15:14 AM
Also, did you notice that Goodell didn't announce him as a Safety when called to the podium?
Post by: bojanglesman on April 28, 2017, 06:16:28 AM
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. How does this guy compare to previous Jets who set the bar in this position, like Derek Pagel?Jamal Adams, punter
Also, did you notice that Goodell didn't announce him as a Safety when called to the podium?
Post by: Koz on April 28, 2017, 06:18:35 AM
Jamal Adams, punterNo, seriously, I think that he called him as a D-lineman. Also, I already placed an order for the same suit, and fully intend to wear it at the tailgate this year.
Post by: Koz on April 28, 2017, 06:31:59 AM
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Post by: bojanglesman on April 28, 2017, 07:15:25 AM
No, seriously, I think that he called him as a D-lineman. Also, I already placed an order for the same suit, and fully intend to wear it at the tailgate this year.Goodell called him a defensive back.
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2017, 08:46:24 AM
(http://image.nj.com/home/njo-media/width960/img/njcom_photos/photo/2017/04/27/2017-nfl-draft-ac79d41df833def5.jpg)
Whoa, what's up with that guy's troll hand?
Post by: Heismanberg on April 28, 2017, 08:48:03 AM
Question- why do you think Hooker slid to the mid-first as opposed to Adams? Is it just his tackling that's questionable?
Injuries
Post by: Heismanberg on April 28, 2017, 09:16:36 AM
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 28, 2017, 09:22:29 AM
I read this morning that Pryor feels blindsided by the pick. We'll see what happens now. I don't see dumping him yet. We have no idea when or if Gilchrist will return healthy.
Now I want a corner, offensive tackle, linebacker, and maybe a tight end.
Post by: Koz on April 28, 2017, 09:31:17 AM
Whoa, what's up with that guy's troll hand?
He's standing next to the "It's 3AM Saturday night, I'm the last girl at the bar, if you're bored I'm down" girl.
Post by: Miamipuck on April 28, 2017, 09:32:04 AM
someone should run into a room with those guys holding a lit stick of dynamite.
I nominate you.
Post by: Miamipuck on April 28, 2017, 09:33:08 AM
No, seriously, I think that he called him as a D-lineman. Also, I already placed an order for the same suit, and fully intend to wear it at the tailgate this year.
I am holding you to this, I want to see you in that suit. I will loan you the shoes, you a size 13?
Post by: Tommy on April 28, 2017, 09:48:26 AM
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2017, 09:52:56 AM
I'm not getting excited yet. We were all talking about how Kyle Wilson was the best cover corner of that draft class, and how Calvin Pryor was the best safety, etc.
No one ever claimed either of them was the best player in their draft.
Post by: Tommy on April 28, 2017, 09:54:07 AM
No one ever claimed either of them was the best player in their draft.
In their respective positions.
Post by: MBGreen on April 28, 2017, 09:57:45 AM
I nominate you.you have no jurisdiction here
Post by: Johnny English on April 28, 2017, 10:00:35 AM
In their respective positions.
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix went three spots after Pryor and is a different type of player. Clinton-Dix is probably a better player right now but it's not difficult to make an argument for Pryor as the best SS in the 2014 draft.
No one thought that Kyle Wilson was the best corner in 2010. Joe Haden went 7th overall.
Post by: Koz on April 28, 2017, 10:06:56 AM
No one thought that Kyle Wilson was the best corner in 2010.
Surviveone asks that you go ahead and freak yourself.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 28, 2017, 10:10:57 AM
I read this morning that Pryor feels blindsided by the pick
Where? I haven't seen anything other than Pryor welcoming him to the team on Twitter.
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Calvin Pryor III @star_island25
Welcome my brother @TheAdams_era 💯💯 let's get it 😈
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 28, 2017, 10:26:15 AM
Where? I haven't seen anything other than Pryor welcoming him to the team on Twitter.
I remembered seeing it as I was scrolling through my Twitter feed this morning. I couldn't remember where I saw it so I rolled back through. Turns out it was from someone I've never heard of, from the most local TV news station in history, so it's probably bullshit.
Quote from: Dario Melendez Verified account @Dario_Melendez
Source close to #Jets Calvin Pryor tells me he "feels blindsided" by Adams pick.No communication w/ team about future in NY @NY1 @SportsOn1
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 28, 2017, 11:49:29 AM
Jon Gruden thinks Jamal Adams was the best pick and the best player in this draft.
Your boi Bucky Brooks as well. Louis Riddick too.
Post by: Italian Seafood on April 28, 2017, 12:39:59 PM
No, seriously, I think that he called him as a D-lineman.
Back when the Nets got Mookie Blaylock their owner at the press conference introduced him as Mookie Wilson.
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 28, 2017, 01:49:10 PM
Imagine if Maccagnan just drafted the Jets' offensive and defensive captains for the next decade with Hackenberg and Adams. We can dream, right?
Post by: Johnny English on April 28, 2017, 02:59:13 PM
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2017, 03:37:14 PM
I keep seeing comparisons with Brian Dawkins. This would make me very happy.
Speaking of which, here's a 13 minute amateur scouting video that leads with a comparison to Dawkins.
https://youtu.be/aVV56meJ-fk
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 28, 2017, 03:40:39 PM
Speaking of which, here's a 13 minute amateur scouting video that leads with a comparison to Dawkins.
https://youtu.be/aVV56meJ-fk
Brb, boner time
Post by: Johnny English on April 28, 2017, 03:55:32 PM
Speaking of which, here's a 13 minute amateur scouting video that leads with a comparison to Dawkins.
https://youtu.be/aVV56meJ-fk
Is Adams a headcase like Dawkins? I don't get that vibe from him.
Post by: Laxin on April 28, 2017, 03:59:03 PM
Is Adams a headcase like Dawkins? I don't get that vibe from him.
Not a head case, but has similar leadership abilities (so they say) to completely change the culture of the locker room.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 28, 2017, 05:34:00 PM
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Post by: d sw0rdz on April 28, 2017, 06:01:51 PM
Post by: Badger on April 28, 2017, 07:10:34 PM
derek pagel does not hold a candle to jon mcgrawRIP
Post by: MBGreen on April 28, 2017, 07:23:33 PM
Koz told me he's the next Derek Pagel.if we drafted fournette..koz would've called him the next little john flowers.
Post by: casman02 on April 29, 2017, 11:10:01 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTeZ0Yqg6Ms/
Post by: Fenwyr on April 29, 2017, 11:33:05 AM
Solid attitudeAquafina is garbage. At least get these kids some Arrowhead.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTeZ0Yqg6Ms/
Post by: Tommy on April 29, 2017, 11:36:58 AM
Aquafina is garbage. At least get these kids some Arrowhead.
Never heard of Arrowhead, but had me thinking about expensive waters:
https://financesonline.com/top-12-most-expensive-water-brands-in-the-world-kona-nigari-acqua-di-cristallo/
Post by: Jumbo on April 29, 2017, 11:39:34 AM
Never heard of Arrowhead, but had me thinking about expensive waters:
https://financesonline.com/top-12-most-expensive-water-brands-in-the-world-kona-nigari-acqua-di-cristallo/
Arrowhead is the Poland Spring of CA/AZ/NV/UT
Post by: Fenwyr on April 29, 2017, 11:49:51 AM
Arrowhead is the Poland Spring of CA/AZ/NV/UTPretty much. Brands like Desani and Aquafina are filtered tap water left over from soda production.
And if you are ever in the SW, do not drink Sparklets. It is 'filtered' water from the LA 'river'. Hint, Los Angeles doesn't have a river, it has a storm wash.
Post by: Tommy on April 29, 2017, 11:57:50 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 29, 2017, 12:07:07 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 29, 2017, 12:07:18 PM
Nobody freaking cares what brand of water you drink, it's water
this
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 29, 2017, 12:13:12 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 29, 2017, 12:14:56 PM
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2017, 01:05:59 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 29, 2017, 01:14:10 PM
NYC tap water 4 lyfe
This
Post by: Tommy on April 29, 2017, 01:59:03 PM
NYC tap water 4 lyfe
I grew up helping my dad around the building, seen main water and sink pipes in many apartments. Will never drink tap water.
Post by: Italian Seafood on May 05, 2017, 11:00:24 AM
OFFICIAL: @TheAdams_era will rock the three-three
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_Egm9qXcAASOj8.jpg:large)
Post by: d sw0rdz on May 05, 2017, 03:21:58 PM
maybe he wants to emulate another black safety we had that rocked 33 - erik smith.
Post by: Andrew Ryan on May 05, 2017, 03:47:37 PM
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Post by: Miamipuck on May 05, 2017, 04:19:30 PM
If Dwight Lowery had worn his other number, hed never have gone out of bounds that one time and would have been a god amongst men.
Hey welcome back.
Post by: Chrebet86 on May 05, 2017, 07:52:35 PM
Hey welcome back.
Thanks, I lurk pretty often...but only for about 2 minutes a few days a week. I only have internet when im at work, and never really get time to browse a lot.
Looks like a decent draft, but dont they all.
Ill be back east come the fall for about 5 months, so Ill have some time then to get back on here and maybe even catch a game!
Post by: sg3 on May 05, 2017, 08:11:01 PM
NYC tap water 4 lyfeAmen
Puts all bottled waters to shame
Best
and FREE
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Post by: sg3 on May 05, 2017, 08:12:39 PM
I grew up helping my dad around the building, seen main water and sink pipes in many apartments. Will never drink tap water.We know
You only sip Trump Water
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Post by: MexJetinBcn on May 14, 2017, 10:25:30 AM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/madden-nfl-live/0ap3000000808048/Rookies-get-first-look-at-their-Madden-avatars
Post by: Koz on June 16, 2017, 07:01:08 AM
The album cover isn't bad either.
http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/06/jets_jamal_adams_says_he_is_total_package_dismisse.html
Post by: Pope on June 16, 2017, 08:45:33 AM
Post by: ukilledkenny on June 16, 2017, 09:23:12 AM
I look forward to his hall of fame induction
So, you think we will trade him in 2 years?
Post by: bojanglesman on June 16, 2017, 09:24:23 AM
So, you think we will trade him in 2 years?
Na, he'll probably beat up a girl or get caught with crack. We'll cut him.
Post by: Miamipuck on June 16, 2017, 09:28:48 AM
So, you think we will trade him in 2 years?
For Calvin Pryor
Post by: ukilledkenny on June 16, 2017, 10:30:19 AM
For Calvin Pryor
Sounds legit.
Post by: bojanglesman on June 16, 2017, 10:40:55 AM
For Eric Smith
FYP.
Post by: Fenwyr on June 16, 2017, 11:50:04 AM
Once we have some semblance of an offense in a year or two, back up the brinks truck for an edge rusher or 2 in FA, since we can never seem to draft one.
Post by: bojanglesman on July 20, 2017, 09:19:26 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on July 20, 2017, 09:23:41 PM
Jamal Adams officially signed. Continue about your day.
Finally
Post by: MBGreen on July 20, 2017, 09:32:09 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on July 21, 2017, 04:37:23 AM
Just glad he's in the fold.
Post by: bojanglesman on July 21, 2017, 05:35:21 AM
Still don't know how these things take so long given that everything is essentially pre-ordained.There are things like when money gets paid out and offsets that aren't pre-determined.
Just glad he's in the fold.
Post by: Miamipuck on July 21, 2017, 08:32:15 AM
There are things like when money gets paid out and offsets that aren't pre-determined.
Yeah, bonus, contract structure, and language, it all makes a big difference to both the player and team.
Post by: Badger on July 21, 2017, 10:54:04 AM
wasn't worriedI didn't even realize he hadn't signed.
Post by: AlioTheFool on July 21, 2017, 12:44:39 PM
I didn't even realize he hadn't signed.
This.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 21, 2017, 09:06:50 PM
Post by: Badger on July 21, 2017, 10:18:59 PM
(http://image.nj.com/home/njo-media/width960/img/njcom_photos/photo/2017/04/27/2017-nfl-draft-ac79d41df833def5.jpg)
Never forget.
Post by: Heismanberg on July 28, 2017, 06:37:53 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 28, 2017, 07:35:01 PM
Adams was the first player at team facilities this morning.
That was quite pleasant to see in that video today. You could tell he was so early he was 100% positive that he was the first. This guy is going to change the culture around here.
Post by: bojanglesman on July 28, 2017, 07:36:49 PM
That was quite pleasant to see in that video today. You could tell he was so early he was 100% positive that he was the first. This guy is going to change the culture around here.Can we get him at the tailgate? We need a culture change there too.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 28, 2017, 07:41:09 PM
Can we get him at the tailgate? We need a culture change there too.
If we can figure out a way to get in touch with him we could probably get him to show up.
Can you get him to post here?
Post by: Miamipuck on July 28, 2017, 08:26:16 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on July 28, 2017, 08:32:54 PM
Post by: ukilledkenny on July 29, 2017, 07:39:00 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on July 29, 2017, 10:28:50 AM
Could we survive 3 hours of partying with THE MOOCH?
We could just let him yell homo at other fans while we drink more.
Post by: Badger on July 29, 2017, 07:00:25 PM
We could just let him yell homo at other fans while we drink more.
"I'm not a Dolphins fan trying to suck my own rooster."
Post by: bojanglesman on July 30, 2017, 10:17:36 AM
"I'm not a Dolphins fan trying to suck my own rooster.""It's ok, The Mooch showed up a week ago at the tailgate. The Dolphins fans will have to go freak themselves."
BTW, The Mooch is a classic nickname. Everyone should have a friend called The Mooch. Just maybe not that one.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 31, 2017, 11:24:08 AM
I love this dude
Post by: d sw0rdz on July 31, 2017, 10:01:06 PM
Jets rookie S Jamal Adams, answering the CTE question: "If I had a perfect place to die, I would die on the field."
I love this dude
there are non-football fans who have been 'cringing' at his answer all over the internet
Post by: Heismanberg on July 31, 2017, 10:49:22 PM
there are non-football fans who have been 'cringing' at his answer all over the internet
I love it too. I saw some bundle of sticks call his answer gross and just enjoyed it even more.
Post by: Coach K on August 01, 2017, 08:25:28 AM
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 01, 2017, 10:37:42 AM
Post by: Derek Smalls on August 01, 2017, 11:59:56 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 01, 2017, 12:38:55 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 01, 2017, 01:09:05 PM
You don't want CTE? Don't play football. Problem solved.
You don't want to be poor? Work a third job. Problem solved.
It's not as simple as "don't play." These guys have played this sport their entire lives--most of which without the knowledge of what it has been doing to their brains. We're now seeing former players say they won't allow their kids to play and guys retiring early.
The sport needs to change. The problem for the league is how to do it and not change the integrity of the game.
Post by: bojanglesman on August 01, 2017, 01:35:40 PM
You don't want to be poor? Work a third job. Problem solved.You can't focus on football and forget all the other contact sports. You have to know at this point the risks of playing any contact sport regarding your head. Can't babysit everything. I'm not saying you can't make changes, but I don't want to see flag football.
It's not as simple as "don't play." These guys have played this sport their entire lives--most of which without the knowledge of what it has been doing to their brains. We're now seeing former players say they won't allow their kids to play and guys retiring early.
The sport needs to change. The problem for the league is how to do it and not change the integrity of the game.
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 01, 2017, 03:12:51 PM
You can't focus on football and forget all the other contact sports. You have to know at this point the risks of playing any contact sport regarding your head. Can't babysit everything. I'm not saying you can't make changes, but I don't want to see flag football.
I'm not forgetting other contact sports, they're just not nearly as popular and I don't care about any of them.
It's not about babysitting. Parents are increasingly not allowing their kids to play football, and that was before the 99% bombshell last week. Something will have to change before there aren't enough kids growing up playing the sport. It's something baseball has had to deal with, and there wasn't even a health concern involved.
I don't think anyone wants to see flag football. That will kill the sport. But there has to be change in the rules and innovation in equipment.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 01, 2017, 03:13:04 PM
You don't want to be poor? Work a third job. Problem solved.
It's not as simple as "don't play." These guys have played this sport their entire lives--most of which without the knowledge of what it has been doing to their brains. We're now seeing former players say they won't allow their kids to play and guys retiring early.
The sport needs to change. The problem for the league is how to do it and not change the integrity of the game.
Nobody is holding them hostage making them play football. If playing in the NFL didn't pay you millions of dollars I would bet a lot of these guys wouldn't be playing.
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 01, 2017, 03:21:15 PM
Nobody is holding them hostage making them play football. If playing in the NFL didn't pay you millions of dollars I would bet a lot of these guys wouldn't be playing.
Absolutely, but you can also make millions of dollars playing baseball or basketball, and those sports don't have the same CTE risk. And athletes in those sports make a lot more money than football players.
It's going to come down to parents. It's anecdotal, admittedly, but I've already seen parents stop their kids from playing football because of the brain injury risk. Like I said, it's anecdotal, but I have to believe that as more studies are released, the concern will grow.
Post by: Laxin on August 01, 2017, 03:38:30 PM
I'm not forgetting other contact sports, they're just not nearly as popular and I don't care about any of them.
It's not about babysitting. Parents are increasingly not allowing their kids to play football, and that was before the 99% bombshell last week. Something will have to change before there aren't enough kids growing up playing the sport. It's something baseball has had to deal with, and there wasn't even a health concern involved.
I don't think anyone wants to see flag football. That will kill the sport. But there has to be change in the rules and innovation in equipment.
I don't think it will stop the majority of people with real talent from playing the sport. People still become police officers, and put their lives on the line every day for a whole lot less fame and fortune. There are plenty of careers and jobs that have inherent risks, and none of them have the upside that football does. For a lot of these people, football may be the only way to "make it" in the world.
Maybe we see some of these talents move to other sports, but football will still have its large pool of talent flocking to the sport.
Also, you cannot completely (or even mostly) remove the CTE aspect from the game. Its a collision sport. Concussions will happen and collisions will occur frequently. No helmet or form of tackling or rule change will alter that.
Post by: bojanglesman on August 01, 2017, 04:00:06 PM
I'm not forgetting other contact sports, they're just not nearly as popular and I don't care about any of them.
It's not about babysitting. Parents are increasingly not allowing their kids to play football, and that was before the 99% bombshell last week. Something will have to change before there aren't enough kids growing up playing the sport. It's something baseball has had to deal with, and there wasn't even a health concern involved.
I don't think anyone wants to see flag football. That will kill the sport. But there has to be change in the rules and innovation in equipment.
Totally fine and understandable for parents to choose that. I can't imagine there will be a shortage of players willing to play football anytime soon though. Nothing wrong with innovation regarding safety. What I mean by babysitting is taking contact out of the sport where the participants are willing and know the risks now.
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 01, 2017, 04:09:27 PM
Totally fine and understandable for parents to choose that. I can't imagine there will be a shortage of players willing to play football anytime soon though. Nothing wrong with innovation regarding safety. What I mean by babysitting is taking contact out of the sport where the participants are willing and know the risks now.
Right. I don't think they'd ever attempt to remove contact from the sport, but something has to change. It's certainly an area that equipment manufacturers can capitalize on, if they can find solutions that reduce risk.
Post by: bojanglesman on August 01, 2017, 04:17:22 PM
Right. I don't think they'd ever attempt to remove contact from the sport, but something has to change. It's certainly an area that equipment manufacturers can capitalize on, if they can find solutions that reduce risk.
The problem is that they are suspecting that low grade, repeated head trauma is a driver for this as much, if not more than severe, isolated traumatic incidents. I'm not talking about a guy getting whacked in the head, shaking it off and walking back to the huddle normally. I'm talking about linebacker bullrushing lineman 40 times a game and getting whipped around and punched in the head with a stiffarm. Those smaller, constant traumatic events that the average person doesn't have. That's tough to innovate away or eliminate without making it 7 on 7 flag football.
Post by: bojanglesman on August 01, 2017, 04:26:12 PM
Quote
Eric Allen
Jamal Adams says he's all about making the game safer. Says his quote was all about passion for the game. Calls his love for 🏈indescribable
He'll have to learn just to give vanilla quotes from now on.
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 02, 2017, 01:07:01 PM
the talent pool for skill positions and for DL/LBs will essentially remain the same. it's other positions that are going to take hits in regards to the talent pool.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 02, 2017, 02:03:01 PM
Post by: Johnny English on August 02, 2017, 04:59:00 PM
Absolutely, but you can also make millions of dollars playing baseball or basketball, and those sports don't have the same CTE risk. And athletes in those sports make a lot more money than football players.
It's going to come down to parents. It's anecdotal, admittedly, but I've already seen parents stop their kids from playing football because of the brain injury risk. Like I said, it's anecdotal, but I have to believe that as more studies are released, the concern will grow.
I think an awful lot of kids would rather play basketball, but if you're 6'2" or under your chances of ever succeeding professionally at it are almost infinitesimally low, whereas normal sized kids can always play football. Baseball is obviously an option, but I think that the skills involved are very different - other than a basic level of athleticism and competitiveness there's really not much the two have in common.
Post by: bojanglesman on August 02, 2017, 05:23:03 PM
Post by: Laxin on August 02, 2017, 07:19:37 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on August 02, 2017, 07:48:46 PM
When was the last time there was this much hype surrounding a rookie for the Jets?Been a bit. If we didn't already have a loaded DL in 2015 it would have been the same with Big Cat.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 02, 2017, 08:50:53 PM
When was the last time there was this much hype surrounding a rookie for the Jets?
Get Hype
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 03, 2017, 04:01:26 PM
When was the last time there was this much hype surrounding a rookie for the Jets?
CANT NOBODY BLOK ME
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 30, 2017, 09:04:45 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on September 30, 2017, 09:48:20 AM
https://elitesportsny.com/2017/09/30/meet-new-york-jets-dangerous-new-sub-package-led-jamal-adams/Excellent read. Something to be excited about. Hopefully there will be lots of media eating crow about drafting safeties with the first 2 picks.
Really smart move by Bowles. Not only does this allow use of the best and fastest players, it also minimizes our weakest spot by taking those OLBs off the field. Our safeties can play the run almost as well, blitz, and certainly cover better.
I wonder if this explains Leo's lack of statistical production. Being at DT, he may be getting doubled a lot.
Post by: MexJetinBcn on September 30, 2017, 11:30:50 AM
https://elitesportsny.com/2017/09/26/new-york-jets-jamal-adams-scarier-film-room/
Post by: Miamipuck on September 30, 2017, 12:46:50 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on September 30, 2017, 01:00:10 PM
Wow that guy wants to blow Adams.Yeah, a little over the top. Puck knows about blowing guys.
Post by: Laxin on September 30, 2017, 01:26:50 PM
This one is even better...
https://elitesportsny.com/2017/09/26/new-york-jets-jamal-adams-scarier-film-room/
It is pretty impressive how physical he is... He blew up Miami's RG on his sack, and blew up the TE on one of his TFL. Darren Lee should take notes.
Post by: Heismanberg on October 01, 2017, 11:47:53 AM
It looks like the defensive players have rallied around him.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 01, 2017, 05:08:03 PM
This kid is awesome. He is dancing around with Rontez Miles during pregame and it's just hilarious.He talks or shows emotion after practically every play. It's infectious since Adams backs it up on the field
It looks like the defensive players have rallied around him.
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 01, 2017, 05:12:02 PM
He talks or shows emotion after practically every play. It's infectious since Adams backs it up on the field
I'm starting to back off my initial displeasure of drafting two safeties in the first two rounds this year.
Adams puts himself near the ball almost every play and I have barely noticed Maye this season which is a good thing when you're talking about a rookie free safety.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 01, 2017, 05:14:32 PM
Post by: Johnny English on October 01, 2017, 05:26:14 PM
I'm starting to back off my initial displeasure of drafting two safeties in the first two rounds this year.
Adams puts himself near the ball almost every play and I have barely noticed Maye this season which is a good thing when you're talking about a rookie free safety.
The secondary is by far the most transformed unit from last year. Adams is everything he was billed as and more, come next season I think OCs are going to be specifically game planning for Jamal Adams and how to avoid him.
Post by: Heismanberg on October 01, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
The secondary is by far the most transformed unit from last year. Adams is everything he was billed as and more, come next season I think OCs are going to be specifically game planning for Jamal Adams and how to avoid him.
Morris Claiborne has actually been really, really good aside from a few ticky-tack penalties.
Buster Skrine is still awful, but he's been extremely dangerous as a blitzer.
Post by: Johnny English on October 01, 2017, 05:31:36 PM
Morris Claiborne has actually been really, really good aside from a few ticky-tack penalties.
Buster Skrine is still awful, but he's been extremely dangerous as a blitzer.
For all I was ready to ditch Rodgers this Spring, I think the defensive playcalling has been mostly excellent. I attributed a lot of the secondary's failings to him last season and I still don't think he was faultless, but it really looks like a lot of the problem was the faith that they placed in Revis to still be Revis. The speed of this defense is really impressive, we're still whiffing on tackles - all defenses do - but the difference this season is that if someone misses then there's pretty much always another defender backing them up, because they have the speed to be in the right place.
But yeah, Skrine can freak off.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 01, 2017, 05:32:33 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 01, 2017, 05:33:40 PM
The secondary is by far the most transformed unit from last year. Adams is everything he was billed as and more, come next season I think OCs are going to be specifically game planning for Jamal Adams and how to avoid him.From the very little that I've seen and read during/about last season it looks like it is night and day in terms of how the secondary functions.
I never had a problem with either player themselves, just with the fact thatthe offense wasn't addressed until the third round.
Morris Claiborne has actually been really, really good aside from a few ticky-tack penalties.
Buster Skrine is still awful, but he's been extremely dangerous as a blitzer.
I was very happy with the Claiborne signing when it was announced. Who was that nickle corner for the Ravens who had pretty much the same skill set as Skrine?
Post by: Heismanberg on October 01, 2017, 05:34:43 PM
For all I was ready to ditch Rodgers this Spring, I think the defensive playcalling has been mostly excellent. I attributed a lot of the secondary's failings to him last season and I still don't think he was faultless, but it really looks like a lot of the problem was the faith that they placed in Revis to still be Revis. The speed of this defense is really impressive, we're still whiffing on tackles - all defenses do - but the difference this season is that if someone misses then there's pretty much always another defender backing them up, because they have the speed to be in the right place.
But yeah, Skrine can freak off.
Revis was basically freelancing last season and Pryor killed us with missed assignments. Getting rid of both of those players was huge for our pass defense.
Having a true commander at linebacker (Davis) and safety (Adams) helps eliminate a lot of mistakes too. Adams jumped on Lee early in the game on one of Ivory's short gains because he made the wrong read. I love that excrement. Hold everyone accountable.
Post by: Heismanberg on October 01, 2017, 05:35:47 PM
Todd Bowles hates Burris. He was screaming at him again for freaking up a substitution.
Post by: Coach K on October 03, 2017, 12:19:56 PM
Daryl Roberts has also been really solid for us. Hopefully his injury isn't serious.
Todd Bowles hates Burris. He was screaming at him again for freaking up a substitution.
which sucks because other than the mental errors , the kid can cover pretty well.
Post by: Heismanberg on October 03, 2017, 02:09:03 PM
Post by: Coach K on October 05, 2017, 09:52:46 AM
He couldn't cover Crabtree
i missed that game. yes hes inconsistent. hes good enough to be a 4th CB on about any team though.
I'm more surprised with how well Claiborne has played. i guess he finally got it put together in DAL just couldnt stay healthy. if i ever have to see Skrine play outside CB again ill scream
Lets hope Daryl Roberts can settle in at #2.
is Claiborne on a 1 year deal?
Post by: bojanglesman on October 05, 2017, 10:16:09 AM
i missed that game. yes hes inconsistent. hes good enough to be a 4th CB on about any team though.
I'm more surprised with how well Claiborne has played. i guess he finally got it put together in DAL just couldnt stay healthy. if i ever have to see Skrine play outside CB again ill scream
Lets hope Daryl Roberts can settle in at #2.
is Claiborne on a 1 year deal?
Yeah, Claiborne is a 1 year deal. I'm not surprised he's playing well, I'm surprised he's playing and not injured.
I think Roberts injured his hamstring, so who knows if he's playing this week.
I think Burris does need to be the 3rd outside corner and still keep getting some playing time. I think he'll improve, but it's clear he isn't ready to start yet.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 15, 2017, 03:54:32 PM
Post by: Miamipuck on November 15, 2017, 03:55:59 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 16, 2017, 09:02:19 AM
Post by: insanity on November 16, 2017, 09:31:16 AM
Didn't he also say the other day he wants to redefine the position?
Through interpretive dance
(https://i2.wp.com/media.giphy.com/media/xT0CyCOxQmcdzSYLok/giphy.gif?resize=480%2C250&ssl=1)
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 16, 2017, 09:33:22 AM
Through interpretive dance
(https://i2.wp.com/media.giphy.com/media/xT0CyCOxQmcdzSYLok/giphy.gif?resize=480%2C250&ssl=1)
As long as in between dances he keeps doing things to give everyone reasons to dance.
Post by: Johnny English on November 16, 2017, 01:05:08 PM
Safety Jamal Adams has 13 run stops. No rookie safety through 10 weeks has had that many run stops in the last decade
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 16, 2017, 01:50:46 PM
PFF NY Jets @PFF_NYJets
Safety Jamal Adams has 13 run stops. No rookie safety through 10 weeks has had that many run stops in the last decade
Thank you Brandon Shell!!
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 07, 2017, 03:30:06 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 08, 2017, 12:41:24 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/nyjets/status/939200429891584000
Chances he knows Bryce Petty’s name?
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 31, 2017, 11:20:27 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on December 31, 2017, 11:22:40 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/947509200044855296?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eios%7Ctwgr%5EotherJamal Adams out for the game with tiddy frostbite.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 18, 2018, 09:35:44 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 07, 2018, 06:06:59 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on February 07, 2018, 06:40:27 PM
Post by: MBGreen on February 07, 2018, 07:41:10 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 04, 2018, 07:43:22 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 27, 2018, 08:38:44 AM
QB of the Defense
Post by: Libero_2 on April 27, 2018, 10:53:45 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/theadamsera/status/989680001149816832
QB of the Defense
Freaking love that guy
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 27, 2018, 11:05:47 AM
Post by: Miamipuck on April 27, 2018, 11:07:33 AM
Excellent thread title change
+1
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 27, 2018, 09:57:37 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 27, 2018, 11:42:07 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 28, 2018, 11:56:18 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 28, 2018, 11:56:49 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/theadamsera/status/990262301575012352
lol
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 30, 2018, 09:23:40 AM
Who the hell am I supposed to push out of my top 5 favorite Jets ever if he keeps this excrement up?
Post by: bojanglesman on April 30, 2018, 09:45:34 AM
Adams is pissing me off with all these tweets.JoJo Natson
Who the hell am I supposed to push out of my top 5 favorite Jets ever if he keeps this excrement up?
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 30, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
JoJo Natson
Curtis Martin goes before Natson.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 30, 2018, 04:48:22 PM
Adams is pissing me off with all these tweets.
Who the hell am I supposed to push out of my top 5 favorite Jets ever if he keeps this excrement up?
https://mobile.twitter.com/theadamsera/status/991062677874184193
Post by: Coach K on April 30, 2018, 04:54:10 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/theadamsera/status/991062677874184193
golden
Post by: AlioTheFool on May 01, 2018, 09:02:22 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/theadamsera/status/991062677874184193
<3<3<3<3
Post by: Badger on May 22, 2018, 09:12:51 PM
Post by: reuben on May 22, 2018, 09:32:46 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 06, 2018, 04:47:27 PM
#MyPresident
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 13, 2018, 06:54:29 PM
Post by: Badger on June 18, 2018, 08:54:34 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 21, 2018, 06:18:22 AM
Post by: AlioTheFool on June 21, 2018, 10:29:48 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/nyjets/status/1009552041860005888
"We always trying to get the ball"
My President.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 30, 2018, 11:47:24 AM
My President.
Post by: AlioTheFool on July 30, 2018, 11:49:55 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/theadamsera/status/1023966625853317120
My President.
This guy is everything you can want in a professional athlete. Some guys just get it.
He's getting a lot of respect from rival fans in the replies for this.
Post by: dcm1602 on July 30, 2018, 12:22:52 PM
Post by: Johnny English on July 30, 2018, 12:24:52 PM
This guy is everything you can want in a professional athlete. Some guys just get it.
He's getting a lot of respect from rival fans in the replies for this.
I think it's very good of Jamal to welcome our new punt returner to training camp.
sorry
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 30, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
I think it's very good of Jamal to welcome our new punt returner to training camp.
sorry
Delete this
Post by: bojanglesman on July 30, 2018, 02:07:56 PM
I think it's very good of Jamal to welcome our new punt returner to training camp.I think the Jets should just have no punt returner. Just let it land where it does and take it. At least we'd be guaranteed no turnover.
sorry
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 06, 2018, 11:33:50 AM
Post by: reuben on August 06, 2018, 12:46:44 PM
https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1026462141094789120
Sorry Mal. Shoulda had a pick last year, good luck in the future.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 08, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Quote
“Everybody was used to losing,” Adams told the website in an interview that took place in the spring but was just published. “You can always tell that vibe. I came in, and it was like everybody wanted to do the bare minimum. They didn’t want to go above and beyond. They didn’t want to take that extra step. They didn’t want to be uncomfortable, [but] to be great, you have to be uncomfortable. You have to be willing to sacrifice and willing to do the little things.
- president of the Jets
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 08, 2018, 10:23:44 AM
Yeah, everyone should probably read this article. brb, gonna go run through a series of brick walls
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 08, 2018, 11:54:15 AM
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2789612-br-qa-jamal-adams-on-becoming-the-nfls-best-safety-and-the-jets-new-namath (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2789612-br-qa-jamal-adams-on-becoming-the-nfls-best-safety-and-the-jets-new-namath)
Yeah, everyone should probably read this article. brb, gonna go run through a series of brick walls
Jesus. This kid is easily the face of the franchise. So much quotable material in there, but without question, this was my favorite:
Quote from: My President
Adams: Hands down. In a way, it's disturbing because a lot of people would die just to be in your position. Just get paid to play a sport. Just get paid to entertain on a football field. Entertain fans. Jersey sales. All of that. People would kill to be in our position, but a lot of people do take it for granted. It's sad, but it's life. It's not just football. It's life. People take life for granted. You have to be driven. You have to be passionate about what you do. I have a pet peeve: When I go to different jobs or eat at different restaurants—whatever—I walk in and someone has an attitude, it's like, "Yo! You picked what you're doing! There's no point in taking it out on the customers. You had one choice and decided what you were going to do." If you have to start somewhere, be happy where you're starting because you can always make your finish strong. A lot of people just aren't built like that.This dude just gets it.
Post by: Hemi on August 08, 2018, 03:14:39 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/theadamsera/status/1023966625853317120
My President.
Very cool
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 09, 2018, 10:56:15 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 09, 2018, 10:56:29 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 10, 2018, 08:26:07 AM
Post by: Badger on September 02, 2018, 10:02:57 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 02, 2018, 11:28:47 PM
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 03, 2018, 08:45:19 AM
https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/1036458195588407297
"WHERE IS YOUR TURNOVER CHAIN?!?!?!?"
Post by: Badger on September 03, 2018, 06:15:59 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 03, 2018, 06:21:03 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 05, 2018, 01:55:05 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on September 05, 2018, 02:33:36 PM
Jamal Adams joinning CMB every Tuesday at 2pm. #Jets
CMB?
Post by: Jumbo on September 05, 2018, 02:45:27 PM
CMB?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.coffeemeetsbagel&hl=en of course
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 05, 2018, 11:52:26 PM
CMB?
Carlin, Maggie, and Bart (Scott) on 660.
Listen, ill tune into the freaking Disney Channel if they’re interviewing My President
Post by: Badger on September 09, 2018, 07:57:18 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on September 10, 2018, 10:38:20 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on September 10, 2018, 10:46:35 PM
Post by: reuben on September 11, 2018, 08:00:15 AM
Jenks looks like he's about to do something unwholesome to the Prez.
Post by: Heismanberg on September 11, 2018, 08:09:51 AM
Post by: WD40 on September 11, 2018, 08:17:29 AM
Post by: Pope on September 11, 2018, 08:22:55 AM
Post by: Badger on September 11, 2018, 08:49:31 AM
Salty Giants fans in the replies
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 11, 2018, 08:55:46 AM
Our locker room culture has done a complete 180 in the past few years. Granted it’s after a big win but I think these guys are all in for this squad
The Adams Era
Post by: Pope on September 11, 2018, 09:06:17 AM
The Adams EraMy president
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 11, 2018, 09:34:04 PM
Ded
Post by: Johnny English on September 11, 2018, 09:53:55 PM
Post by: guinness77 on September 12, 2018, 03:29:07 AM
I still don't understand the whole New Jack City thing. They know that the Cash Money Brothers were dicks, right?Am I my Brother’s keeper?
Post by: bojanglesman on September 12, 2018, 05:50:33 AM
I still don't understand the whole New Jack City thing. They know that the Cash Money Brothers were dicks, right?It's a black thang, I wouldn't understand. Plus I never saw the movie. I just nod my head and enjoy the results.
Post by: dcm1602 on September 12, 2018, 08:25:21 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 12, 2018, 08:35:13 AM
Was New Jack City before the IRS was on Wesley Snipes derriere?
The IRS was on Wesley Snipes derriere BECAUSE of New Jack City. Mark derriere tricks
Post by: Johnny English on September 12, 2018, 09:30:02 AM
It's a black thang, I wouldn't understand. Plus I never saw the movie. I just nod my head and enjoy the results.
You should watch it, it's awesome. Not sure how well it will have aged though.
Post by: reuben on September 12, 2018, 09:32:29 AM
Post by: Pope on September 12, 2018, 09:35:18 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on September 15, 2018, 07:43:03 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmyIFUKXsAI-bQ7.jpg)
There's a clip of this on the new episode of One Jets Drive...and it's as awesome as I thought.
Post by: d sw0rdz on September 15, 2018, 08:18:50 AM
There's a clip of this on the new episode of One Jets Drive...and it's as awesome as I thought.
theyre still making episodes? was bummed after the last one because i assumed it would be the final one now that the season began
Post by: bojanglesman on September 15, 2018, 08:36:13 AM
There's a clip of this on the new episode of One Jets Drive...and it's as awesome as I thought.Yeah, it was good. Adams is special.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 15, 2018, 09:02:22 AM
There's a clip of this on the new episode of One Jets Drive...and it's as awesome as I thought.
60 MINUTES OF CHAOS
Post by: MexJetinBcn on September 15, 2018, 01:53:14 PM
Post by: Laxin on September 15, 2018, 02:14:30 PM
Where can you find those?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w7EnAshAYI
Post by: MexJetinBcn on September 15, 2018, 11:32:39 PM
Post by: Miamipuck on September 16, 2018, 03:07:26 PM
Post by: Badger on September 16, 2018, 05:11:27 PM
Dear President, stay the freak off of social media and do what you're supposed to do, like cover the RB on 3rd and 19 you bundle of sticks.No
https://twitter.com/TheAdamsEra/status/1041435346251247625?s=09
Post by: Miamipuck on September 16, 2018, 05:32:01 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 17, 2018, 01:15:03 PM
My President.
Post by: mj2sexay on September 17, 2018, 01:17:29 PM
No
https://twitter.com/TheAdamsEra/status/1041435346251247625?s=09
...How about perennial AHL goon Tom Sestito making his presence felt in that twitter thread?!?!?!
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 21, 2018, 11:14:08 AM
Post by: Badger on September 26, 2018, 07:36:37 PM
Post by: Johnny English on September 26, 2018, 07:40:17 PM
Just replaced the Wilkerson jersey in my closet with an Adams jersey.
Sweet. My turn in two weeks; decision is between Darnold and Adams, I think. Sam is the current favourite.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 26, 2018, 08:11:12 PM
Sweet. My turn in two weeks; decision is between Darnold and Adams, I think. Sam is the current favourite.You'll buy an Andre Roberts jersey and like it.
Post by: Koz on September 27, 2018, 08:34:27 AM
Post by: Johnny English on September 27, 2018, 08:42:06 AM
I'm thinking that this is the year I stop wearing the Revis Titans jersey. I have a Harris jersey from a few years back. A better choice?
No
Post by: Koz on September 27, 2018, 09:39:45 AM
NoSo, what you are saying is that Revis Titans must come out once more?
Post by: Johnny English on September 27, 2018, 09:41:01 AM
So, what you are saying is that Revis Titans must come out once more?
No
Post by: Koz on September 27, 2018, 09:41:46 AM
No
OK got it! I will proceed as you've requested.
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 27, 2018, 10:45:57 AM
I'm thinking that this is the year I stop wearing the Revis Titans jersey.
Those Titans jerseys are the ugliest things we've ever had.
Looks good on you though.
Post by: Johnny English on September 27, 2018, 11:31:11 AM
OK got it! I will proceed as you've requested.
I think you can afford to update yourself.
Post by: MBGreen on September 27, 2018, 11:37:52 AM
So, what you are saying is that Revis Titans must come out once more?
yes...wear it
Post by: Koz on September 27, 2018, 11:49:33 AM
I think you can afford to update yourself.I would, but it'll take too long for the knockoff to arrive from China. Only an poopchute would buy a jersey, like one for Santonio Holmes, from the NFL store in NYC.
Post by: MBGreen on September 27, 2018, 11:53:06 AM
I would, but it'll take too long for the knockoff to arrive from China. Only an poopchute would buy a jersey, like one for Santonio Holmes, from the NFL store in NYC.
that jersey is 3-0 at home games.
with wins against the Bills (come from behind with Geno taking the snaps), the Steelers, and the Ravens.
Post by: Johnny English on September 27, 2018, 11:55:42 AM
I would, but it'll take too long for the knockoff to arrive from China. Only an poopchute would buy a jersey, like one for Santonio Holmes, from the NFL store in NYC.
You know you could buy an actual proper authentic one online and have it at your front door within 72 hours?
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 27, 2018, 11:57:04 AM
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 27, 2018, 11:57:10 AM
I would, but it'll take too long for the knockoff to arrive from China. Only an poopchute would buy a jersey, like one for Santonio Holmes, from the NFL store in NYC.
I got a nice quality Revis jersey in the parking lot for $50 after the Jacksonville game when MJD knelt at the 1 to beat us. Was pretty wasted and didn't realize it goes down past my knees. Goes nicely over a lot of layers for the cold games.
Post by: bojanglesman on September 27, 2018, 02:42:25 PM
Post by: MBGreen on September 27, 2018, 03:15:59 PM
I'm wearing the Cotchery 89 till I lose it or it falls off.
maybe you'll forget it at the bar
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 27, 2018, 03:26:50 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on September 27, 2018, 03:36:49 PM
I’m waiting for the new unis to come out before I buy a Darnold jersey
Post by: Pope on September 27, 2018, 05:57:37 PM
Post by: Koz on September 27, 2018, 07:19:53 PM
You know you could buy an actual proper authentic one online and have it at your front door within 72 hours?yes but do you realize I have 3 kids and am broke?
Post by: Johnny English on September 27, 2018, 07:22:20 PM
yes but do you realize I have 3 kids and am broke?
No one made you have the children and I don't believe that you're broke.
But if you have to choose one, go with the Titans jersey. The Harris jersey is a better option but the Titans jersey is a tailgate legend.
Post by: Koz on September 28, 2018, 07:17:14 AM
No one made you have the children and I don't believe that you're broke.
But if you have to choose one, go with the Titans jersey. The Harris jersey is a better option but the Titans jersey is a tailgate legend.
OK Titans it is. I'm sure that I will be 1 of a total of 3 people wearing the damm thing in a sea of 80,000
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 02, 2018, 06:24:16 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 02, 2018, 07:27:20 PM
Post by: Johnny English on October 02, 2018, 07:52:24 PM
Ok that was awesome
Actually my least favourite one yet. The cheerleading is fun, but I prefer it when he's actually breaking plays down and showing me the things that I'm not seeing as a random jerk on the internet. I can and do yell excrement about how hard Adams hits people, that's not what I want from him.
Post by: dcm1602 on October 02, 2018, 08:08:26 PM
Actually my least favourite one yet. The cheerleading is fun, but I prefer it when he's actually breaking plays down and showing me the things that I'm not seeing as a random jerk on the internet. I can and do yell excrement about how hard Adams hits people, that's not what I want from him.
Yeah I watched this and it was pretty terrible. Adam's has done some great stuff, but this was him basically hitting some guys, which you can find any defensive player doing. The Fournett tackle was fairly impressive, but the rest was just fodder
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 02, 2018, 09:15:55 PM
Post by: Johnny English on October 02, 2018, 09:48:18 PM
^^2 dudes that love to complain. Not of ton of positives came out of that game and those were some nice plays. I could care less what Baldinger has to say
............ way to miss the point.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 02, 2018, 10:07:15 PM
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Jamal Adams on WFAN - starting this Friday the Jets will have a players only meeting each week for the rest of the season.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 03, 2018, 12:25:51 AM
Jamal still isn't a superstar, but he's a damn good player who has clearly taken a step forward, and he's still only 22 years old and improving. So happy he's on our side.
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 03, 2018, 12:12:52 PM
As for conducting players-only meetings every week for the rest of the season? That's team leaders stepping up and saying "Yeah, this staff is unable to lead, so we'll just do it for them." Not good.
Post by: Pope on October 03, 2018, 12:20:07 PM
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 03, 2018, 07:06:20 PM
Jeez, dude flies around hitting everyone while everybody else on this defense has a thumb up their derriere, and supposedly it's NBD. Come on people.
As for conducting players-only meetings every week for the rest of the season? That's team leaders stepping up and saying "Yeah, this staff is unable to lead, so we'll just do it for them." Not good.
knowing our fan base this will lead to a lot of gossip about what's said during those meetings. fans will be saying that the player only meetings are because the players hate bowles even if by chance there is no truth to that
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 04, 2018, 11:08:16 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 04, 2018, 02:27:04 PM
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@Michael_Nania:
Jamal Adams had a drive on Sunday where he single-handedly forced a 3 & out.
Stopped a run that could've been huge for 6
Stuffed a run for -2
Pummeled a tight end short of the sticks for 4 & zero YAC
Yawn
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 04, 2018, 02:45:49 PM
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 04, 2018, 06:05:38 PM
Yawn
jamal adams making defensive plays on his own? that's just something any defensive player can do. agreed, not impressed
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 05, 2018, 11:52:50 AM
jamal adams making defensive plays on his own? that's just something any defensive player can do. agreed, not impressed
Someone should tell the other guys. We didn't know if they had a punter until the second half.
Post by: Badger on October 14, 2018, 08:16:51 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 15, 2018, 11:01:22 AM
https://twitter.com/TheAdamsEra/status/1051579783753162758?s=09
I love this dude.
I do not love the replies.
Post by: Miamipuck on October 15, 2018, 12:16:29 PM
I'm thinking that this is the year I stop wearing the Revis Titans jersey. I have a Harris jersey from a few years back. A better choice?
No
Post by: reuben on October 16, 2018, 09:12:08 PM
I love this dude.
I do not love the replies.
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Sam Makhlouf
@Sam_Makhlouf28
Replying to @TheAdamsEra @nyjets
I’m a life long Jet fan but You guys tweet and talk so much after a victory, and nothing after a loss.. just let your game do the talking.
Seriously, what kind of a Jets fan has any problem with Jamal Adams at this moment in time?
Post by: Pope on October 17, 2018, 08:14:59 AM
Seriously, what kind of a Jets fan has any problem with Jamal Adams at this moment in time?Every fan base has their retards. They will find a way to complain about anything
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 24, 2018, 02:36:23 PM
From a guy who pretty much exclusively breaks down lineman
Post by: MexJetinBcn on November 04, 2018, 04:02:16 PM
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“Enough is enough. I’m not a loser.” - Jamal Adams, who adds he’s done holding his tongue #Jets
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Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 13, 2018, 08:17:01 PM
Still president
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 13, 2018, 08:19:21 PM
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WFAN: What did Todd Bowles say at halftime?
Avery Willimson: I don't recall. Jamal was doing all the talking.
Get this guy some freaking help. It really looked like he was one of the only ones playing on Sunday
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 14, 2018, 09:32:41 AM
Get this guy some freaking help. It really looked like he was one of the only ones playing on Sunday
Yup.
Adams, Enunwa, and Williamson were the only guys out there on Sunday who I felt really cared that they were there.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 26, 2018, 11:46:38 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/gregarmstrong_/status/1067110480232292352
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 27, 2018, 06:34:40 PM
Post by: reuben on November 27, 2018, 08:09:46 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 27, 2018, 10:51:16 PM
https://twitter.com/JetsOpinion/status/1067516864073486336?s=09 (https://twitter.com/JetsOpinion/status/1067516864073486336?s=09)
freak yes
Jamal’s Post:
https://mobile.twitter.com/theadamsera/status/1067588372984676354
Post by: Koz on November 28, 2018, 06:41:14 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 28, 2018, 10:42:06 PM
My President is the most powerful man in the world and makes every game worth watching.
Post by: reuben on November 28, 2018, 11:58:27 PM
https://twitter.com/veteranscout/status/1067453090058641409
My President is the most powerful man in the world and makes every game worth watching.
That's like half a season's worth of highlights in one game.
Post by: ScotlandJet on November 29, 2018, 03:48:40 AM
Get this guy some freaking help. It really looked like he was one of the only ones playing on Sunday
Exactly! We better look after this guy before trade talks and all that BS starts raising it's head.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 29, 2018, 10:33:57 AM
That's like half a season's worth of highlights in one game.
Didn’t even include the other coverage play on Gronk in the EZ where Adams ran his route better, was in perfect position for the pick, and Gronk broke it up.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 06, 2018, 08:39:15 AM
Hngggggg
Post by: bojanglesman on December 06, 2018, 08:53:26 AM
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-jamal-adams-is-playing-at-an-elite-level-after-a-substantial-second-year-leapBest player on this team.
Hngggggg
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 06, 2018, 11:44:09 AM
Best player on this team.
And it's not even close.
Who would be the second-best? I can't even think of someone who rises that far above the rest of the pack to be the legitimate #2 player on this team.
Post by: bojanglesman on December 06, 2018, 12:25:19 PM
And it's not even close.Kicker
Who would be the second-best? I can't even think of someone who rises that far above the rest of the pack to be the legitimate #2 player on this team.
Post by: Heismanberg on December 06, 2018, 12:49:02 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 06, 2018, 01:16:44 PM
Kicker
Sadly, you're probably right. Both of them are better at their jobs than most of the rest of the team.
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 06, 2018, 01:27:13 PM
Kicker from Marist, where Italian Seafood played.
Yup.
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 06, 2018, 01:28:32 PM
Darron Lee has been awesome this year too
Yeah, there's definitely a second tier of players. I'd add Enunwa, Williamson, Maye (when healthy), maybe even Claiborne. If we count ST, I'd add Myers, Edwards, Roberts, and Peake in that group too.
I just don't think any of them individually is significantly "better" than the rest of the group. Obviously, they're all different positions, so it's harder to compare but no one rises above everyone else in the way Adams does.
Post by: bojanglesman on December 06, 2018, 01:48:07 PM
Never thought we'd have a good shot at having 3 pro bowlers and be so bad.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 06, 2018, 02:33:47 PM
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#Jets safety Jamal Adams on facing the Bills again after 41-10 loss last month: "Cut to the chase, man. It’s personal. They came in & they whupped us, man. They don’t like us. We don’t like them. So, it’s going to be a tough battle.”
Post by: Johnny English on December 06, 2018, 08:09:37 PM
Yeah, there's definitely a second tier of players. I'd add Enunwa, Williamson, Maye (when healthy), maybe even Claiborne. If we count ST, I'd add Myers, Edwards, Roberts, and Peake in that group too.
I just don't think any of them individually is significantly "better" than the rest of the group. Obviously, they're all different positions, so it's harder to compare but no one rises above everyone else in the way Adams does.
I like Claiborne but he has been freaking rotten the last couple of games. Whiffed on so many plays.
Post by: Heismanberg on December 06, 2018, 08:13:07 PM
I like Claiborne but he has been freaking rotten the last couple of games. Whiffed on so many plays.
He stinks this year.
Skrine has actually been our best corner, but I hate him and he can freak off after this season.
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 07, 2018, 02:22:01 PM
Sadly, I agree Skrine has probably been the best corner (unless you grade on a curve and then I'd give it to Roberts who has played well above what I thought he could). But the entire secondary is garbage apart from Adams, and Maye whenever he's actually able to play.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 08, 2018, 09:33:39 PM
Overall grade- 88.3 (3rd)
Defensive stops- 35 (1st)
Passer rating when targeted- 53.6 (6th)
Post by: bojanglesman on December 09, 2018, 10:26:11 AM
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 09, 2018, 01:55:40 PM
It's a shame this season has dropped a excrement cloud over how good Adams is and will be. If the Jets let this dude ever hit free agency...... I don't want to ever see him on another team.Not among true Jets fans who actually watch the games and have some semblance of knowledge. Adams is an animal. Half the time, I just focus on him. He's usually around the ball and he's always fun to watch.
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 10, 2018, 12:37:15 PM
Not among true Jets fans who actually watch the games and have some semblance of knowledge. Adams is an animal. Half the time, I just focus on him. He's usually around the ball and he's always fun to watch.
Besides Darnold, he's the only guy on the entire field I'm paying any attention to beyond the person with the ball in his hand anymore.
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 10, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
It's a shame this season has dropped a excrement cloud over how good Adams is and will be. If the Jets let this dude ever hit free agency...... I don't want to ever see him on another team.
Even if we can trade him for a pick and get Dee Milliner?
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 14, 2018, 11:21:48 PM
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Jamal Adams finished 2nd among NFL safeties in fan voting for the Pro-Bowl with 249,348 votes. Eddie Jackson was 1st with 311,301 votes. #Jets
I demand a recount
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 16, 2018, 11:15:24 AM
I demand a recount
They must have tallied this up in Broward County. Some more votes are on the way, stuck in traffic.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 18, 2018, 09:45:57 PM
President.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 18, 2018, 10:17:01 PM
Hahaha Holy excrement
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 19, 2018, 11:13:37 AM
https://twitter.com/oldtakesexposed/status/1075202248928608256
Hahaha Holy excrement
That's fantastic.
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 19, 2018, 11:51:36 AM
https://twitter.com/oldtakesexposed/status/1075202248928608256
Hahaha Holy excrement
That is great.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 20, 2018, 04:25:06 PM
Ahem
Post by: reuben on December 22, 2018, 04:04:46 PM
Post by: Pope on December 22, 2018, 06:21:37 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 23, 2018, 10:03:44 AM
I think in just his second year Adams has already made my Mt Rushmore of all time favorite Jets
Me too.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 28, 2018, 08:45:11 AM
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 28, 2018, 11:18:46 AM
Jamal Adams is the winner of the Curtis Martin Award (team MVP). Voted by the players.
It had better have been unanimous.
Post by: Laxin on December 28, 2018, 12:47:39 PM
Post by: Johnny English on December 28, 2018, 01:54:34 PM
Jamal just posted a video on instagram of Sam's car on blocks because the OLmen didn't like his Christmas gifts to them lol
https://www.instagram.com/presidentmal/?hl=en
?
Post by: Libero_2 on December 28, 2018, 04:11:30 PM
Jamal just posted a video on instagram of Sam's car on blocks because the OLmen didn't like his Christmas gifts to them lol
I can’t find the video either...
But if they wanted better gifts they should block better.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 28, 2018, 05:55:13 PM
Post by: Laxin on December 29, 2018, 12:30:10 AM
I can’t find the video either...
But if they wanted better gifts they should block better.
He posted it as a story
Post by: Johnny English on December 29, 2018, 12:01:52 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 31, 2018, 06:25:23 PM
I missed this play during the game, and I've been wanting to see it ever since.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 01, 2019, 09:59:08 AM
https://twitter.com/Loucifer_III/status/1079869232765169664
I missed this play during the game, and I've been wanting to see it ever since.
Thank you
Post by: guinness77 on January 01, 2019, 05:08:21 PM
Post by: Miamipuck on January 01, 2019, 06:53:38 PM
I don’t know about the rest of you but I like that Lou guy in the comments. Get that guy to post here.
Totally agree
Post by: d sw0rdz on January 01, 2019, 07:04:50 PM
I don’t know about the rest of you but I like that Lou guy in the comments. Get that guy to post here.
are you Lou?
Post by: MBGreen on January 01, 2019, 07:27:25 PM
are you Lou?Lou is IATA
Post by: Johnny English on January 01, 2019, 07:30:21 PM
are you Lou?
On this fine day we are all Lou.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 01, 2019, 07:32:10 PM
Post by: guinness77 on January 02, 2019, 03:35:50 AM
are you Lou?I’m not quite as passionate as Lou, that’s for sure.
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 02, 2019, 03:48:29 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 02, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 02, 2019, 04:38:54 PM
Is there any way that Jamal tweeting at players to recruit them can be construed as tampering?
@TheAdamsEra: Yo @AB84 NYC will appreciate you!! #JETS
Technically he said NYC, not NYJ.
Post by: reuben on January 02, 2019, 05:14:48 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 02, 2019, 06:40:57 PM
Sounds like Jamal killed it on WFAN today.
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Jamal Adams during his WFAN interview today on CMB - "Offensive-minded HC. Help Sam out. Sam's going to be phenomenal....We have a franchise quarterback. He's going to do his thing. You bring in an offensive-minded coach - the defense, we'll get that handled"
This is the part where I say “My President”
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 02, 2019, 06:41:55 PM
This is the part where I say “My President”
Jamal Adams for defensive coordinator.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 03, 2019, 07:37:40 AM
Post by: MBGreen on January 03, 2019, 08:27:38 AM
Post by: Johnny English on January 03, 2019, 08:34:44 AM
Post by: Koz on January 03, 2019, 08:49:08 AM
Antonio Brown can freak offHe can sing though.....
Post by: Pope on January 03, 2019, 02:41:27 PM
Post by: Andrew Ryan on January 03, 2019, 02:52:10 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on January 03, 2019, 02:59:47 PM
Adams gave Derrick Jones a shoutout. It's honestly criminal that he and Burnett didn't get more playing time.
Bad coaching. Can't blame that on general management.
Nathan Shepherd didn't get enough reps either. There's no reason Bronson Kaufasi should've been out there over him in a lost season.
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 03, 2019, 03:41:57 PM
Bad coaching. Can't blame that on general management.
Nathan Shepherd didn't get enough reps either. There's no reason Bronson Kaufasi should've been out there over him in a lost season.
It does lend some credence to the idea that Bowles was trying to sabotage Maccagnan.
I'll be so happy if it turns out Maccagnan actually is a truly good GM and was screwed by the awful job that Bowles did.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 04, 2019, 11:19:00 AM
Eddie Jackson and Derwin James are the 1st team All Pro Safeties
Harrison Smith joins Jamal on 2nd Team
Post by: Pope on January 04, 2019, 11:26:40 AM
Post by: Gorilla on January 04, 2019, 11:41:18 AM
I'm still a little surprised James chosen over him. Chargers did have the superior team, so that was evidently a factor.
Hey we got Andre Roberts on the team, at least. Our first AllPro since Revis, if im not mistaken?
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 09, 2019, 11:24:36 AM
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Jets Jamal Adams finished with a 89.6 coverage grade in 2018 which was the 3rd highest among safeties with a minimum of 500 defensive snaps.
Oh
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 10, 2019, 06:31:35 AM
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I support everybody that's being interviewed! I want somebody who's gonna help us Win!!!!!! Simple as that!!!!! So don't get that twisted! GO JETS
Radio silence from Jamal Adams twitter for over a full day now... which just doesn’t happen, for any reason.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 10, 2019, 06:56:13 AM
He's furiously masturbating to the Adam Gase hire.
Radio silence from Jamal Adams twitter for over a full day now... which just doesn’t happen, for any reason.
Post by: MBGreen on January 10, 2019, 07:20:50 AM
He's furiously masturbating to the Adam Gase hire.
he's asking his agent to facilitate a trade
Post by: insanity on January 10, 2019, 08:04:44 AM
Post by: MBGreen on January 10, 2019, 08:06:55 AM
Yeah, if Adam's supports gase I could change my tune.
his silence speaks volumes
Post by: insanity on January 10, 2019, 08:31:37 AM
his silence speaks volumesIt definitely aint good
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 10, 2019, 08:58:46 AM
he's asking his agent to facilitate a trade
Gase trades or cuts players he doesn’t get along with
Post by: MBGreen on January 10, 2019, 09:05:26 AM
Gase trades or cuts players he doesn’t get along with
Dont' worry, Duff will take a Safety in the 1st round. He got dis.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 10, 2019, 09:24:18 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 10, 2019, 09:26:32 AM
Maybe the organization told Jamal to chill on twitter about hirings.
Doubt it, he was tweeting about Kris Richard just before the one I posted. I would guess he just doesn’t know what to say yet.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 10, 2019, 09:27:39 AM
Doubt it, he was tweeting about Kris Richard just before the one I posted. I would guess he just doesn’t know what to say yet.
Bowel told him to STFU.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 10, 2019, 08:15:38 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on January 11, 2019, 03:17:28 PM
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Jamal Adams @TheAdamsEra
I’m so excited about the news of Coach Gase coming to NYC! Excited to have him lead us back to where we need to be. We got a long way to go, can’t wait to get to work!
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 11, 2019, 03:19:57 PM
Post by: Johnny English on January 11, 2019, 03:22:27 PM
He lives!
That reads like it was written by a PR rep.
Post by: bojanglesman on January 11, 2019, 03:27:28 PM
That reads like it was written by a PR rep.
Yep. Except the "we got" part.
Post by: Laxin on January 11, 2019, 03:58:48 PM
Post by: Johnny English on January 13, 2019, 03:51:27 PM
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Jamal Adams @TheAdamsEra
The Pats are in 21p & 22p... two backs 1 TE, or 2 backs 2 TE's! You can't have 6 DB's on the field! It just won't work bro! This is old school football!! Just my opinion! Alright I'm gone ✌🏽
TB12 has been doing this since I was in diapers!! You sitting in zone all game, best believe he will tear you apart!! You have to wrinkle in man switch it up on him, & disguise!!
Why don't we just make Mal the DC?
Post by: Gorilla on January 13, 2019, 03:53:37 PM
Post by: Johnny English on January 13, 2019, 03:55:37 PM
TIL Adams was in diapers until he was 6 years old smh.
Jamal was born in '95, which was Brady's freshman year at Michigan.
Post by: MBGreen on January 13, 2019, 04:00:58 PM
Jamal was born in '95, which was Brady's freshman year at Michigan.
And more importantly, the year i graduated high school.
Post by: Johnny English on January 13, 2019, 04:01:31 PM
And more importantly, the year i graduated high school.
I'd been in the workforce for four years at that point.
Post by: MBGreen on January 13, 2019, 04:02:24 PM
I'd been in the workforce for four years at that point.
#OldHead
Post by: Gorilla on January 13, 2019, 04:03:10 PM
Jamal was born in '95, which was Brady's freshman year at Michigan.
Oh, great point.
'95, when Brady wasn't playing and doing nothing for a couple of years and then finally starting and cruising to a 6th round selection....that's probably what Jamal was referring to. My bad!
Post by: Laxin on January 15, 2019, 05:13:20 PM
Post by: Johnny English on January 15, 2019, 06:34:53 PM
"Jamal Adams apparently said freak it and has pulled up to the Patriots locker room strapped with a AK47. We're on the scene now. Wow."
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 15, 2019, 08:30:19 PM
https://twitter.com/TheAdamsEra/status/1085310123181047809
I guess he approves of the Williams hire.
Post by: MBGreen on January 19, 2019, 02:14:30 PM
#DevinWhiteSZN
Post by: Laxin on January 19, 2019, 03:12:13 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 23, 2019, 05:24:54 PM
W
Post by: insanity on January 23, 2019, 06:17:53 PM
https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/1088196808193572865Complete poopchute should be cut
W
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 23, 2019, 07:39:42 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 24, 2019, 10:37:18 AM
Lmaooooo
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 24, 2019, 02:34:20 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/jets-safety-jamal-adams-sent-patriots-mascot-pro-bowl-hospital (https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/jets-safety-jamal-adams-sent-patriots-mascot-pro-bowl-hospital)
Somebody's seeing dollar signs.
Post by: Johnny English on January 24, 2019, 02:37:03 PM
Maybe the mascot needs to stop being a soft lady garden.
Post by: Heismanberg on January 24, 2019, 02:41:31 PM
Post by: Italian Seafood on January 24, 2019, 03:08:11 PM
Not going to hate on Jamal though, glad he's out there doing something.
Post by: Pope on January 24, 2019, 03:56:04 PM
I guarantee Kraft/Belichick forced the dude to go to the hospital. The Johnson family will give him 25k for his pain and suffering and that dude will double his salary for the year
Post by: Jumbo on January 24, 2019, 03:57:59 PM
Because of course.
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/jets-safety-jamal-adams-sent-patriots-mascot-pro-bowl-hospital (https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/jets-safety-jamal-adams-sent-patriots-mascot-pro-bowl-hospital)
Somebody's seeing dollar signs.
There's no actual report of this happening.
The only source for all of these reports is Jamal himself joking about it.
F A K E N E W S
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 24, 2019, 04:02:12 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 24, 2019, 08:21:22 PM
There's no actual report of this happening.
The only source for all of these reports is Jamal himself joking about it.
F A K E N E W S
https://twitter.com/oldtakesexposed/status/1088576110244315136
https://twitter.com/bgoldgrab/status/1088582578960035840
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 24, 2019, 09:06:06 PM
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 25, 2019, 11:23:48 AM
Post by: dcm1602 on January 25, 2019, 12:20:30 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on January 25, 2019, 02:21:04 PM
It is a shame this dudes probably getting sued and I would even think fined by the nfl (can't imagine he gets suspended over it)
This might be your dumbest post ever
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 25, 2019, 02:33:40 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on January 25, 2019, 03:01:33 PM
This might be your dumbest post ever
From espn
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Adams said he was told the person inside the mascot costume was hospitalized on Thursday morning, but the NFL has not yet confirmed that information. Adams said the NFL is not happy with him because of the incident. "He [the mascot] was running around and everybody was booing him, so I said, ‘You know what? Let me go tackle him,’ Adams said. "I didn’t hit him that hard, man. All jokes aside, I didn’t hit him that hard. I don’t know what’s really going on, but they did tell me he’s in the hospital. My intention was never to hurt him. it was all about just a joke but I definitely want to check on him and make sure everything is good. At the end of the day we were out here just having fun and it wasn’t nothing intentionally to try to hurt the guy."
If he truly hospitalized the guy and the nfl said they weren't happy we with him
He's very likely getting sued and fined
Post by: Johnny English on January 25, 2019, 03:06:17 PM
From espn
If he truly hospitalized the guy and the nfl said they weren't happy we with him
He's very likely getting sued and fined
Patriots beat writer:
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Mark Daniels @MarkDanielsPJ
On the Patriots mascot incident with Jamal Adams, from a team spokesperson: “He was not hospitalized. He did seek medical treatment from the on-site medic. It was a painful attack.”
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 25, 2019, 04:28:07 PM
This might be your dumbest post ever
Thanks for doing your duty, I saw that post and just quickly exited the thread
Post by: Badger on January 25, 2019, 09:58:26 PM
From espnHow are you a medical professional?
If he truly hospitalized the guy and the nfl said they weren't happy we with him
He's very likely getting sued and fined
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 25, 2019, 11:12:25 PM
How are you a medical professional?
Only 3 deaths so far this year
Post by: Italian Seafood on January 26, 2019, 09:11:50 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 26, 2019, 09:31:13 PM
Travis Scott sucks but this reel is sicko mode
Post by: MexJetinBcn on January 27, 2019, 05:09:59 PM
Post by: Italian Seafood on January 27, 2019, 07:47:15 PM
FWIW, Adams has just been named the Pro Bowl MVP
Saw that. Gastineau got that once.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 29, 2019, 09:11:18 PM
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If they don't congratulate you when you get some sort of success. They not real homies! Keep notes!
fax
Post by: MBGreen on January 30, 2019, 12:13:22 PM
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Just spoke to Jamal Adams on radio row. He had lunch with Le’Veon Bell’s agent at the Pro Bowl. The recruitment has begun. #nyj
Post by: Pope on January 30, 2019, 01:13:22 PM
Post by: Johnny English on January 30, 2019, 01:21:08 PM
Post by: MBGreen on January 30, 2019, 02:21:22 PM
I'm more concerned about which way the recruitment is happening, I don't want Jamal Adams anywhere near an agent who encourages his clients to sit out an entire freaking year of play if they don't get exactly what they want.
You worry too much
Post by: Johnny English on January 30, 2019, 02:48:42 PM
You worry too much
I don't worry at all, but I'll remind you of this in three years' time when he's demanding eleventy billion dollars on his new contract. I mean, I won't because I'll have long since forgotten about this conversation, but you know what I mean.
Post by: MoreCharacters on January 31, 2019, 12:14:23 AM
Post by: MBGreen on January 31, 2019, 07:34:59 AM
why shouldn't jamal adams make eleventy billion dollars in 3 years if he's as good as he believes he is?
because JE said so
Post by: Johnny English on January 31, 2019, 01:37:01 PM
why shouldn't jamal adams make eleventy billion dollars in 3 years if he's as good as he believes he is?
Because every position has its ceiling relative to its value to the team, and a player asking to be paid above the ceiling for his position should not have an agent who supports them sitting out an entire year of their career if they don't get it.
Post by: MoreCharacters on January 31, 2019, 03:23:30 PM
seems optimistic
Post by: Johnny English on January 31, 2019, 03:48:03 PM
so you think he's going to play like revis but not ask to be paid like him as long as he manages to avoid talking to anyone who says "hey man you deserve a lot of money"
seems optimistic
I don't think he's going to play like Revis, no. I didn't read the rest of your sentence due to the inaccuracy of the first bit.
Post by: MoreCharacters on January 31, 2019, 04:02:03 PM
regardless, the premise was "if he's as good as he believes he is," and he believes he's going to be the greatest safety in NFL history. the comparison is appropriate
for someone with english in his name I am unimpressed with your language arts skills :/
Post by: insanity on January 31, 2019, 04:15:43 PM
so you think he's going to play like revis but not ask to be paid like him as long as he manages to avoid talking to anyone who says "hey man you deserve a lot of money"
seems optimistic
Step 1 read
Step 2 think about what you read
Step 3 respond
Post by: Derek Smalls on February 01, 2019, 06:50:32 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on February 01, 2019, 09:26:29 PM
that's remarkably slow information processing if you can look at half of a sentence on a screen and not manage to absorb the whole thing in a glance
regardless, the premise was "if he's as good as he believes he is," and he believes he's going to be the greatest safety in NFL history. the comparison is appropriate
for someone with english in his name I am unimpressed with your language arts skills :/
Dude might be an excellent player, but the safety position is valued for excrement.
And the fact that coverage/ball hawking isn't his strong suit won't help him with a monster payday. Also strongly working against him is a weak 5th year option for safeties and a weak franchise tag price for them. His 5th year option is around 10 million and his franchise tag is around 11.
So Jamal can get a monster payday, but for him to get crazy money ala Revis our GM would need to screw up immensely or Jamal would have to take some huge risks like Revis
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 28, 2019, 07:33:06 PM
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Kentucky RB Benny Snell met with #Jets at NFL Combine. Said he wants them to draft him, in part, so he can play with Jamal Adams (@TheAdamsEra)
Still President
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 11, 2019, 06:11:59 AM
I’ll never stop saying it every chance I get, at the risk of being annoying, because Jamal is legitimately our President
Post by: reuben on March 14, 2019, 08:32:40 PM
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
Le’Veon Bell says Jamal Adams did everything to recruit him. Was constantly reaching out by texting, calling, Instagram and Twitter. “He made it happen.” #Jets
Post by: Libero_2 on March 14, 2019, 09:30:20 PM
I’m sure that we had the highest offer by far had nothing to do with it
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 14, 2019, 09:37:15 PM
I’m sure that we had the highest offer by far had nothing to do with it
Jamal drafted the contract
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 15, 2019, 04:49:52 AM
I’m sure that we had the highest offer by far had nothing to do with it
Supposedly he really wanted to go to Baltimore.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 05, 2019, 08:40:41 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 07, 2019, 02:52:39 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 09, 2019, 04:19:16 PM
Idk what I just watched
Post by: reuben on April 09, 2019, 04:44:34 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/nfl/status/1115707688862789632
Idk what I just watched
A clothing commercial.
Post by: MBGreen on April 10, 2019, 09:00:28 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 10, 2019, 09:10:03 AM
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jets-safety-jamal-adams-says-himself-and-c-j-mosley-can-be-special-like-ray-lewis-and-ed-reed/
Mosely isn't that good. Still like where Adams' head is at.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 10, 2019, 09:14:10 AM
Mosely isn't that good. Still like where Adams' head is at.
Right, best MLB we’ve had since Vilma though, and we’ve had some good ones in Scott and Harris.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 11, 2019, 05:24:43 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 18, 2019, 01:43:03 PM
My.. *sobs*... My President
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 18, 2019, 01:48:28 PM
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The call that changed my life forever. It’s a feeling I cannot put into words. Thank you to the Jets organization for taking a chance on a young kid out of Texas, chasing his childhood dream! Luv
(http://i66.tinypic.com/6thd05.jpg)
Post by: reuben on June 02, 2019, 04:32:33 PM
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Jamal Adams ranks among safeties, 2017-18
Tackles: 1st (197)
Tackles for loss: 1st (18)
QB hits: 1st (10)
Sacks: T-1st (5.5)
Third down stops vs. pass: 1st (21)
Third down stops vs. run: T-1st (8)
Fumbles forced: T-1st (4)
Fumbles recovered: T-3rd (3)
Passes defended: T-7th (18)
Post by: Johnny English on June 02, 2019, 04:49:25 PM
2017-18?
Post by: Andrew Ryan on June 02, 2019, 05:06:40 PM
2017-18?
The two years Adams has been in the league.
Post by: dcm1602 on June 02, 2019, 05:34:24 PM
I mean for a while it seemed like Pryor was a special player, and now he's not even in the league
Post by: d sw0rdz on June 02, 2019, 06:13:54 PM
I know we're all biased here, and he's a different kind of player than these two. But do you think Adams is on track to be in the same category as guys like Polamalu and Reed?
I mean for a while it seemed like Pryor was a special player, and now he's not even in the league
pryor showed flashes at certain times of his career but i never thought/felt he was anything near a 'special' caliber player
Post by: reuben on June 02, 2019, 07:42:12 PM
I know we're all biased here, and he's a different kind of player than these two. But do you think Adams is on track to be in the same category as guys like Polamalu and Reed?
I mean for a while it seemed like Pryor was a special player, and now he's not even in the league
Pryor looked like a solid starter in his second season. Jamal Adams was the best safety in the NFL during his second season.
Post by: Heismanberg on June 02, 2019, 08:08:41 PM
I mean for a while it seemed like Pryor was a special player, and now he's not even in the league
Calvin Pryor never looked like a special player
Post by: Libero_2 on June 03, 2019, 04:42:11 AM
Calvin Pryor never looked like a special player
Pryor was only special when he lined somebody up and knocked their head off. Which I believe only happened like 5 times here. The rest of the time he was ordinary as a player and clearly didn’t have enough brains, work ethic or physical ability (or some combination of the 3) to become an actual player in the league.
Post by: MBGreen on June 03, 2019, 07:26:37 AM
Pryor was only special when he lined somebody up and knocked their head off. Which I believe only happened like 5 times here. The rest of the time he was ordinary as a player and clearly didn’t have enough brains, work ethic or physical ability (or some combination of the 3) to become an actual player in the league.
Good thing we passed on Brandin Cooks for him.
#FireRex
Post by: delavan on June 03, 2019, 08:29:03 AM
Pryor was only special when he lined somebody up and knocked their head off. Which I believe only happened like 5 times here.^ +1. LeRon Landry 2.0, overpursued, took bad angles, susceptible to cut backs and didn't have Sean Taylor as a crutch.
Post by: mj2sexay on June 03, 2019, 09:48:25 PM
^ +1. LeRon Landry 2.0, overpursued, took bad angles, susceptible to cut backs and didn't have Sean Taylor as a crutch.
Nor did he have the biceps. Must have been on the wrong gas.
Post by: Johnny English on June 11, 2019, 01:52:28 PM
I have Game Pass, I'll try and watch the whole thing later.
Post by: ons on June 12, 2019, 01:44:57 PM
https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1138446280106004480
I have Game Pass, I'll try and watch the whole thing later.
Full episode on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StsMi-rms4M). Pretty cool watch so far.
Post by: Johnny English on June 25, 2019, 02:54:30 PM
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Michael Nania @Michael_Nania
Jamal Adams has collected 18 tackles for loss and 18 passes defended over his first two years in the league.
Since 1999 (when TFLs were first tracked), Adams is one of only two players to post 18+ TFL and 18+ PD over their first two seasons, along with:
J.J. Watt.
https://twitter.com/Michael_Nania/status/1143256112130592769
Post by: AlioTheFool on July 26, 2019, 03:33:35 PM
If you love Jamaal Adams (and if you don't, please kindly GFY), the first quarter-or-so of week 2 of One Jets Drive is porn.
https://www.newyorkjets.com/video/2019-one-jets-drive-new-life-ep-2 (https://www.newyorkjets.com/video/2019-one-jets-drive-new-life-ep-2)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 28, 2019, 01:26:05 PM
I posted this in the Training Camp thread, but it probably belongs here.
And now I’m all JACKED UP ON A SUNDAY
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 28, 2019, 01:26:56 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on September 17, 2019, 10:15:58 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2019, 10:20:02 AM
https://twitter.com/SNYtv/status/1173976136042340354?s=19
This was always my worst fear. This type of losing wears down an athlete.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2019, 10:22:56 AM
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#Jets star Safety Jamal Adams has unfollowed the Jets on Instagram and removed them from his bio.
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 17, 2019, 10:23:17 AM
This was always my worst fear. This type of losing wears down an athlete.
I doubt getting benched at the end of the game helped.
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 17, 2019, 10:26:41 AM
Dan Rowe
Close source is telling me Jamal Adams has demanded a trade and informed his agent and GM Joe Douglas today. He hasn’t not gotten along with DC Gregg Williams or head coach Adam Gase and wants be part of a different culture. He has also unfollowed the Jets on Instagram #Jets
Show this thr
Post by: Pope on September 17, 2019, 10:27:14 AM
Post by: Johnny English on September 17, 2019, 10:27:48 AM
Post by: MBGreen on September 17, 2019, 10:29:18 AM
Not sure who the freak Dan Rowe is but....
Dan Rowe
Close source is telling me Jamal Adams has demanded a trade and informed his agent and GM Joe Douglas today. He hasn’t not gotten along with DC Gregg Williams or head coach Adam Gase and wants be part of a different culture. He has also unfollowed the Jets on Instagram #Jets
Show this thr
....
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 17, 2019, 10:30:57 AM
If the story is true though, I want Gase and Williams fired immediately.
Post by: dcm1602 on September 17, 2019, 10:36:00 AM
Dennis Waszak Jr.
He also removed LSU and put God first. #Jets https://t.co/neEpaLNq0W
11:11AM EDT
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2019, 10:37:03 AM
Not sure who the freak Dan Rowe is but....
Dan Rowe
Close source is telling me Jamal Adams has demanded a trade and informed his agent and GM Joe Douglas today. He hasn’t not gotten along with DC Gregg Williams or head coach Adam Gase and wants be part of a different culture. He has also unfollowed the Jets on Instagram #Jets
Show this thr
He has 48 followers and the guy from parks and rec as his profile picture. Seems legit
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2019, 10:45:06 AM
Post by: dcm1602 on September 17, 2019, 10:45:15 AM
Post by: MBGreen on September 17, 2019, 10:47:47 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2019, 10:55:44 AM
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I see there’s buzz that Jamal Adams unfollowed the Jets on social media. When I asked him about it, he mentioned he never followed the NYJ since he was drafted. #Jets
Russini
Post by: MBGreen on September 17, 2019, 10:57:53 AM
Russini
sidenote: Russini has great funbags
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2019, 11:20:39 AM
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Wouldn't make this Jamal Adams following/unfollowing The Jets on social media into a thing. He's good. I'm told there is nothing to it.
La Canfora
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2019, 01:06:16 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2019, 01:09:21 PM
“It’s social media, at the end of the day, it’s outside noise”
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 17, 2019, 01:58:34 PM
*HM Lev Bell
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 17, 2019, 02:00:57 PM
Coaches prob should have let him finish the game tbh. Benching him for meaningless penalties when he’s clearly the hardest working player* on the field doesn’t seem in our best interest
*HM Lev Bell
How else are you going to pee off your best players?
Post by: Johnny English on September 17, 2019, 02:06:23 PM
Coaches prob should have let him finish the game tbh. Benching him for meaningless penalties when he’s clearly the hardest working player* on the field doesn’t seem in our best interest
*HM Lev Bell
The suggestion seems to be that he had lost his temper and they were concerned about him going headhunting, the game was over so they pulled him for everyone's sake. I confess that I'd lost interest in watching by that point.
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 17, 2019, 03:05:57 PM
The suggestion seems to be that he had lost his temper and they were concerned about him going headhunting, the game was over so they pulled him for everyone's sake. I confess that I'd lost interest in watching by that point.
He was definitely playing more and more violent as the game went on, so maybe there's some plausibility to that.
Post by: Badger on September 17, 2019, 06:00:08 PM
He has 48 followers and the guy from parks and rec as his profile picture. Seems legitBig if true
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 18, 2019, 03:18:15 PM
He talked to Adams today to make sure he knew that #Jets”
Hughes
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 18, 2019, 03:26:04 PM
“Adam Gase said that Jamal Adams was NOT benched. He took him out because he was too fiery and he was worried about something going wrong late in the game.
He talked to Adams today to make sure he knew that #Jets”
Hughes
Every time I see this thread bumped this week I fear bad news.
This is good, but why didn't Gase say this to him yesterday or when he took him off the field?
Post by: Libero_2 on September 18, 2019, 03:46:38 PM
Every time I see this thread bumped this week I fear bad news.
This is good, but why didn't Gase say this to him yesterday or when he took him off the field?
I’m assuming he wanted to do a face to face and they had yesterday off after playing monday
Post by: reuben on September 18, 2019, 04:45:03 PM
Every time I see this thread bumped this week I fear bad news.
This is good, but why didn't Gase say this to him yesterday or when he took him off the field?
Because he's an antisocial freak with non-existent interpersonal skills.
Post by: dcm1602 on September 18, 2019, 04:49:58 PM
Every time I see this thread bumped this week I fear bad news.
This is good, but why didn't Gase say this to him yesterday or when he took him off the field?
I mean I can understand why he didn't say it to him when he took him off the field
But yesterday 🤷♂️
Post by: Johnny English on September 18, 2019, 07:06:40 PM
Because he's an antisocial freak with non-existent interpersonal skills.
Exactly what you want in a head coach. (Contrary to popular belief, this is not who Belichick is. Media Belichick is very different to Coach Belichick.)
Post by: Johnny English on September 18, 2019, 08:24:25 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 18, 2019, 08:40:26 PM
https://twitter.com/TheAdamsEra/status/1174492095018602497
Prez back
Post by: Johnny English on September 18, 2019, 08:59:19 PM
Prez back
Curious to see how much Myles Garrett got fined for his far more egregious late hits on our QB in the same game. I'm sure that the relative profiles of the two QBs won't make a difference, right?
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 19, 2019, 11:58:19 AM
Curious to see how much Myles Garrett got fined for his far more egregious late hits on our QB in the same game. I'm sure that the relative profiles of the two QBs won't make a difference, right?
I just looked around, and while he's the most penalized player in this young season, I don't see any mention of fines for him this week.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 19, 2019, 01:58:29 PM
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According to Jamal Adams, after the game the officials apologized to the Jets’ coaching staff for the penalty. Adams obviously plans to appeal the $21k fine. #Jets
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 19, 2019, 01:59:33 PM
Curious to see how much Myles Garrett got fined for his far more egregious late hits on our QB in the same game. I'm sure that the relative profiles of the two QBs won't make a difference, right?
No news on Garrett’s fines, I’m sure they’re coming
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 19, 2019, 06:07:39 PM
https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1174785544490012677?s=21
Jamal Adams on the penalty/fine:
"It bothered me a lot because it's kind of like, what do you want me to do? It was legal. Next time, I might just tag him on the hip & say, "He's it," and play tag with him. I don't know what else you want me to do in that situation." #Jets
Post by: Badger on September 22, 2019, 07:35:06 PM
https://youtu.be/TXzB1KR02zA
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 23, 2019, 11:08:35 AM
Post by: Johnny English on September 23, 2019, 11:20:48 AM
https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1176136463110590464?s=21
Reminds me of this:
https://twitter.com/demar_derozan/status/17289846632?lang=en
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 24, 2019, 06:42:21 PM
Manish
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 26, 2019, 10:07:57 AM
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 30, 2019, 03:14:18 PM
Post by: klaximilian on September 30, 2019, 11:49:03 PM
I'll enjoy his act more when he can help us get off the field on 3rd down. I love the occasional big hit and I know he's one guy, but until we stop someone in a key spot he's more bark than bite.Until you realize that there are 10 other players on defense, you are hereby a lost cause.
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 01, 2019, 06:22:45 AM
Until you realize that there are 10 other players on defense, you are hereby a lost cause.
I addressed that in my post. Guy still talks a lot for the results we get.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 07, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 07, 2019, 09:23:44 PM
https://twitter.com/theadamsera/status/1181272505761165313?s=21That's why as much as I respect the role of stats, it's hard to use stats to tell every story in the NFL. We don't know what defense teams are running. I don't know who is responsible for certain coverage mistakes.
Post by: Heismanberg on October 07, 2019, 11:21:48 PM
We don't know what defense teams are running.
This is certainly something we can see before and after a play.
There's only so many coverages in football. The same goes for fronts and stunts. Obviously if someone blitzes and that's not part of the play design, we won't know something like that. But just about everything else defensively can be deciphered through film.
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 08, 2019, 11:36:24 AM
That's why as much as I respect the role of stats, it's hard to use stats to tell every story in the NFL. We don't know what defense teams are running. I don't know who is responsible for certain coverage mistakes.
Stats are probably less telling in football than any other team sport because there are so many variables and moving parts. Certainly much less than in baseball and basketball.
Post by: Johnny English on October 10, 2019, 04:52:58 PM
Post by: reuben on October 10, 2019, 05:52:47 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001064167/article/jamal-adams-wins-appeal-of-fine-for-hit-on-mayfield
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Appeals officer Derrick Brooks rescinded the fine.
The dude who lobotomized Rich Gannon is in charge of appeals? Cool.
Post by: Badger on October 13, 2019, 09:07:30 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 14, 2019, 07:41:35 AM
Post by: Miamipuck on October 14, 2019, 08:55:57 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on October 14, 2019, 09:57:18 AM
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 14, 2019, 10:09:29 AM
I told Alio at the game, all you had to do was watch Jamal on every play and you knew what was going to happen. He just doesn't make very many mistakes. I swear you could put him at defensive tackle and he would thrive. The Jets should sign this dude with extension the minute it's legal. Hand over the wallet, let him take what he wants.
I was actually thinking about this too. I'll lose my mind if they let Adams make it to free agency. Along with Darnold, he's a cornerstone piece of the future of this franchise.
Post by: Miamipuck on October 14, 2019, 10:19:54 AM
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 14, 2019, 11:00:39 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 14, 2019, 11:28:22 AM
My President
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 14, 2019, 01:13:36 PM
Orlovsky with a good breakdown of the 2 pt conversion blitz
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 27, 2019, 08:15:15 PM
Someone help me out and convince me Jamal will re-sign here
Post by: dcm1602 on October 27, 2019, 08:27:05 PM
https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1188559779645579266?s=21
Someone help me out and convince me Jamal will re-sign here
Well he's a safety so we could tag him back to back after dropping the 5th year option on him.
So I'd say it's a fairly safe bet if we want him, he's not going anywhere. That said, having him become a pain in the dick and forcing a trade is at least feasible. But because of the tag we'd have some leverage
Post by: Johnny English on October 27, 2019, 08:41:16 PM
https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1188559779645579266?s=21
Someone help me out and convince me Jamal will re-sign here
His fate was sealed when you bought his jersey.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 27, 2019, 10:16:25 PM
His fate was sealed when you bought his jersey.
Bought Darnold’s jersey first
Post by: MBGreen on October 28, 2019, 07:28:20 AM
Bought Darnold’s jersey first
don't buy anymore jerseys.
Post by: bojanglesman on October 28, 2019, 08:13:02 AM
don't buy anymore jerseys.Buy Brady's jersey
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 28, 2019, 10:47:01 AM
https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1188559779645579266?s=21
Someone help me out and convince me Jamal will re-sign here
I really wish I could.
I watched that during the postgame last night and the whole time, all I could think was "No way he doesn't start demanding a trade soon."
Post by: Jumbo on October 29, 2019, 04:59:38 PM
"At the end of the week last week, I sat down with the GM and Coach Gase and told them I want to be here in New York. I was told yesterday by my agent that the GM then went behind my back and shopped me around to teams, even after I asked him to keep me here! Crazy business."
Post by: Jumbo on October 29, 2019, 05:00:17 PM
since it's now deleted
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 29, 2019, 05:07:33 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 29, 2019, 05:11:38 PM
Post by: insanity on October 29, 2019, 05:14:11 PM
How ironic it was today to hear Jamal get called whiny and having a bad attitude by the fanbase for being vocal about being unhappy about losing when he complains less than 99% of Jets fanswhere did this happne?
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 29, 2019, 05:18:24 PM
where did this happne?
Uhhh, here, among every place else?
Edit:
If this was true I would be actually quite happy with it. Getting 2 first rounders for arguably a player playing the least valuable defensive position would be amazing, plus I'm kinda tired of Adams' whiny attitude this past season.
I love Jamal Adams. But going to the ownership and asking to be traded is pathetic.
President my derriere.
I hope it isn't true.
Well, Adams is miserable here and wants to go to Dallas. Why keep him here and have him pout. Let him go, get a big haul.
Adams is a great player but freak him, if he wants to go, I will drive that poopchute to the airport. Double freak him
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 29, 2019, 05:18:37 PM
Rap
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 29, 2019, 05:18:53 PM
Douglas: “My message was clear. Jamal Adams is a stud. We are not interested in moving him.”
Said teams kept calling #Jets about him.
“We were not shopping Jamal.” - Joe Douglas, for the 200th time.
Hughes
Post by: insanity on October 29, 2019, 05:25:54 PM
Douglas on Adams’ tweet: “Jamal and I had a good conversation in my office … I’ve stated all along we did not make any calls on Jamal. Teams called us. Teams have been calling us ever since there was a social media issue a few weeks back”
Douglas: “My message was clear. Jamal Adams is a stud. We are not interested in moving him.”
Said teams kept calling #Jets about him.
“We were not shopping Jamal.” - Joe Douglas, for the 200th time.
Hughes
Time for Joe Douglass to prove his worth. Make Jamal believe you, and find a way to make him happy.
Post by: Badger on October 29, 2019, 05:44:23 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/t8gkznY.png)It's still up on his Instagram.
since it's now deleted
Post by: Pope on October 29, 2019, 05:44:44 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on October 29, 2019, 05:46:50 PM
Time for Joe Douglass to prove his worth. Make Jamal believe you, and find a way to make him happy.
I heard he's going to extend Gase to prove to Jamal that he's dedicated to making it work
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 29, 2019, 06:04:01 PM
I think with Jamals passion comes some sensitivity. Guy wears his emotions on his sleeve. Hopefully this passesAgreed.
We have Jamal locked up for 2.5 more years. Unless he wants to start hiding out already, hes not going anywhere unless we get blown away.
Post by: dcm1602 on October 29, 2019, 06:05:25 PM
It's still up on his Instagram.
And Twitter
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 29, 2019, 06:08:18 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on October 29, 2019, 06:17:33 PM
Who know what to believe. Sounds like there was some miscommunication or lack of communication either way. I’m sure some of Jamal’s frustration stems from reading reports all day that he asked to be traded, had his loyalty and personality questioned, and have to watch the clock until 4pm to see what would happen with his future.
Better question is who was the one spreading the Jamal wants to be traded excrement
Whether it was from the FO or dumb derriere beat reporters
Post by: MBGreen on October 29, 2019, 06:29:12 PM
Better question is who was the one spreading the Jamal wants to be traded excrement(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191029/8d6e3f75a48f8abe8bd88ea140306015.jpg)
Whether it was from the FO or dumb derriere beat reporters
Post by: mj2sexay on October 29, 2019, 06:44:00 PM
Where the freak would Ryan Clark get the knowledge that Jamal wanted to be a Cowboy unless that was leaked out by his representation? Why would Douglas who had the potential of pitting two teams against each other ever leak that out and destroy his leverage?
IMHO its a pathetic attempt at damage control from someone who I'm freaking tired of hearing from. You play safety. You're not a corner, edge rusher, or quarterback. Stop whining.
Post by: insanity on October 29, 2019, 06:47:14 PM
I don't buy this excrement for a second. Sorry.
Where the freak would Ryan Clark get the knowledge that Jamal wanted to be a Cowboy unless that was leaked out by his representation? Why would Douglas who had the potential of pitting two teams against each other ever leak that out and destroy his leverage?
IMHO its a pathetic attempt at damage control from someone who I'm freaking tired of hearing from. You play safety. You're not a corner, edge rusher, or quarterback. Stop whining.
Before now when has Jamal ever whined.
Post by: MexJetinBcn on October 29, 2019, 06:55:02 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on October 29, 2019, 08:00:03 PM
I don't buy this excrement for a second. Sorry.None of us know what went on. Assuming all of that is just as bad as what you assume he did.
Where the freak would Ryan Clark get the knowledge that Jamal wanted to be a Cowboy unless that was leaked out by his representation? Why would Douglas who had the potential of pitting two teams against each other ever leak that out and destroy his leverage?
IMHO its a pathetic attempt at damage control from someone who I'm freaking tired of hearing from. You play safety. You're not a corner, edge rusher, or quarterback. Stop whining.
Post by: mj2sexay on October 29, 2019, 08:09:16 PM
None of us know what went on. Assuming all of that is just as bad as what you assume he did.
If our front office in the middle of fielding calls from two teams for his services thought it intelligent to put out there that he specifically wanted to go to one of them, we're fucked. We're so fucked beyond belief.
Ryan Clark isn't putting out that Jamal wanted to be a Cowboy and lying about talking to him about it at the behest of the Jets.
I absolutely do not believe that either him or his reps either didn't ask to move on or weren't putting it out there that he would love to play for the Cowboys. But there's still enough time that this all blows over if only because of the fact that they still have the leverage of having him under contract at either below or at market for the next three years.
Having said that, the price apparently was a first and two seconds. Given that they fully expect to win the division this year and the NFC is pretty wide open, if I'm the Cowboys I'd have paid it.
Post by: insanity on October 29, 2019, 08:09:58 PM
Well, he did remove the team's name from his social media accounts. That's Digital Era whining.Apparently that was never actually there
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 29, 2019, 09:05:15 PM
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One final item on Jamal Adams, he’s eligible for a contract extension in December and a source said there is an expectation of a new deal sooner rather than later.
Calvin Watkins
Post by: dcm1602 on October 29, 2019, 09:20:34 PM
Calvin Watkins
Expectation by who 🤔?
There's zero reason to extend Jamal.
He's got a 4th year on his rookie deal, then his 5th year option, then we tag him and consider extending him at that point.
I'd rather trade him in the offseason instead of giving him some bullshit apology contract
Dudes an all pro elite player and the heart of this defense
But it's also one of the least valuable positions, and he's got 2 very affordable years left on his rookie contract. Why the freak would we suddenly give him an insane amount of money when we have all the leverage in the world
Post by: Heismanberg on October 29, 2019, 10:20:42 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 29, 2019, 10:36:38 PM
Calvin Watkins is an illiterate fucktard
Best way to perfect that skill is working on the Jets beat
Post by: Pope on October 29, 2019, 11:16:51 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on October 30, 2019, 05:13:33 AM
Expectation by who 🤔?
There's zero reason to extend Jamal.
He's got a 4th year on his rookie deal, then his 5th year option, then we tag him and consider extending him at that point.
I'd rather trade him in the offseason instead of giving him some bullshit apology contract
Dudes an all pro elite player and the heart of this defense
But it's also one of the least valuable positions, and he's got 2 very affordable years left on his rookie contract. Why the freak would we suddenly give him an insane amount of money when we have all the leverage in the world
Depends on what they do. If it’s a straight extension, then nothing happens in his next couple years to change his contract. If they rip his deal up and start over completely, that’s an idiotic team decision.
Post by: dcm1602 on October 30, 2019, 07:55:36 AM
Depends on what they do. If it’s a straight extension, then nothing happens in his next couple years to change his contract. If they rip his deal up and start over completely, that’s an idiotic team decision.
But he's talking about extending Jamal before we can even exercise the 5th year option
And taking the franchise tag off the table.
Regardless were talkikg about adding a ton of guaranteed money to a player who is comfortably under team control for 3 more seasons. I know the franchise tag is a dick move, but the reality is tagging Adams with a tag that will likely be worth 12-13 million is so much better or an option than giving him an annual deal worth 16 million a year for numerous years.
The only way you extend Jamal soon is if this is another bullshit apology extension
Post by: bojanglesman on October 30, 2019, 08:17:54 AM
But he's talking about extending Jamal before we can even exercise the 5th year optionEarly extensions usually take into account the price of what's left on the rookie contract. Also, the going rate for players is only going to go up. What you sign him for now would be less than what it would cost 2 years from now. Worst case, it's a wash financially and we don't have to deal with bitching and threats to holdout. It's the rare case of a Jets player that you have zero worries about whether he will drag derriere after he signs.
And taking the franchise tag off the table.
Regardless were talkikg about adding a ton of guaranteed money to a player who is comfortably under team control for 3 more seasons. I know the franchise tag is a dick move, but the reality is tagging Adams with a tag that will likely be worth 12-13 million is so much better or an option than giving him an annual deal worth 16 million a year for numerous years.
The only way you extend Jamal soon is if this is another bullshit apology extension
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 30, 2019, 09:11:12 AM
Post by: dcm1602 on October 30, 2019, 09:25:51 AM
Early extensions usually take into account the price of what's left on the rookie contract. Also, the going rate for players is only going to go up. What you sign him for now would be less than what it would cost 2 years from now. Worst case, it's a wash financially and we don't have to deal with bitching and threats to holdout. It's the rare case of a Jets player that you have zero worries about whether he will drag derriere after he signs.
But you can't exercise a 5th year option until a player is in his 4th year.
Meaning the soonest you'd want to extend Jamal is the start of next season. However due to the way the franchise tag works and that safety salaries are generally not the greatest, you're saving a decent chunk of cash by not extending him while dramatically improving flexibility.
As of now Jamal is under contract for cheap next year, his 5th year option would be around 10 million, and his franchise tag will likely be roughly 12 million. The highest paid safety will get around 16 million a year.
We have Jamal under team control for 3 years with an extremely affordable number. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever to extend him and suddenly add a monstrous amount of guaranteed money to a player you aren't obligated to do so. We have no idea what the future holds. Maybe the Jets get a rare opportunity to pay an elite receiver, left tackle, or pass rusher.
Regardless we have an incredible amount of flexibility with Jamal, there's zero reason to just give that up
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 30, 2019, 09:49:22 AM
Post by: dcm1602 on October 30, 2019, 09:58:39 AM
dcm do everyone a favor and google the Ezekiel Elliot contract before you type out the same block of garbage again
Zskee was drafted the year before Adams
And is under contract for 8 freaking years
And were talking about giving a guy a huge chunk of guaranteed money when we don't need to
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 30, 2019, 12:45:04 PM
Early extensions usually take into account the price of what's left on the rookie contract. Also, the going rate for players is only going to go up. What you sign him for now would be less than what it would cost 2 years from now. Worst case, it's a wash financially and we don't have to deal with bitching and threats to holdout. It's the rare case of a Jets player that you have zero worries about whether he will drag derriere after he signs.
By extending him now, you'd also pull a bunch of future money back to next year and the year after--before you have to break the bank for Darnold. This isn't at all like the Mark Sanchez lipstick contract. It's just good business.
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 30, 2019, 12:48:09 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 30, 2019, 12:55:58 PM
I'm getting really tired of hearing how replaceable the safety position is. The best freaking player on the entire defense is a safety and he's all over the field on every play. I'd argue the 3rd best player on defense is also a safety, with only Mosley between them and a wait-and-see on Q.
Jets fans:
2017: drafting Adams and Maye with back to back premium picks was a good decision
2019: safeties are replaceable, trade them both!
Post by: dcm1602 on October 30, 2019, 01:01:49 PM
By extending him now, you'd also pull a bunch of future money back to next year and the year after--before you have to break the bank for Darnold. This isn't at all like the Mark Sanchez lipstick contract. It's just good business.
You'd also be tied to the dude for 6 or 7 years
And if you give him future money now like you're talking about, what's to stop him from acting like Revis?
Yeah that signing bonus getting dispersed over the next 2 years is great, but then you have a guy whose making below average money the final 3 years of his deal. And could start acting all mental and excrement.
It just doesn't make sense to give a guy a new contract, when you have a strong degree of control over him contractually for the next 3 seasons
Post by: MBGreen on October 30, 2019, 01:03:37 PM
Jets fans:
2017: drafting Adams and Maye with back to back premium picks was a good decision
2019: safeties are replaceable, trade them both!
Taking back to back safeties was a dumb decision. I don't know who claimed it was a good one.
Post by: dcm1602 on October 30, 2019, 01:06:09 PM
I'm getting really tired of hearing how replaceable the safety position is. The best freaking player on the entire defense is a safety and he's all over the field on every play. I'd argue the 3rd best player on defense is also a safety, with only Mosley between them and a wait-and-see on Q.
It's not just about safety being replaceable. It's also about how the franchise tag is much more valuable for safeties (and tight ends)
If you franchise tagged Jamal in back to back years it would absolutely come out to less per year than he would get on a long term contract. While giving your team much more flexibility and control. I'm not suggesting you tag him back to back, but the money he will command on a long term deal is so much less attractive than utilizing the short term options available, BECAUSE he plays safety.
The highest paid safety currently gets 14 million a year. The franchise tag for safety is 11.5 million. Tagging back to back would be 13.8 million. Jamal would likely get more than Kevin Byard.
So yes extending him too soon is silly.
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 30, 2019, 01:28:18 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 30, 2019, 01:43:50 PM
Taking back to back safeties was a dumb decision. I don't know who claimed it was a good one.
Come on man, tons of people here defended it. “He’s a first round value!”
I was mad because I wanted Dalvin Cook, but I was more mad that we spent a high 2nd round pick on a safety after just having spent the 6th overall pick on a safety. We had needs at a ton of other positions.
Post by: guinness77 on October 30, 2019, 02:02:41 PM
Come on man, tons of people here defended it. “He’s a first round value!”If Leveon Bell can’t succeed with this trash O-line, Dalvin Cook would already be considered a bust. No running back can succeed when we put absolutely no value into our line besides signing a few mediocre veterans and using late draft picks to patch one together.
I was mad because I wanted Dalvin Cook, but I was more mad that we spent a high 2nd round pick on a safety after just having spent the 6th overall pick on a safety. We had needs at a ton of other positions.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 30, 2019, 02:17:04 PM
If Leveon Bell can’t succeed with this trash O-line, Dalvin Cook would already be considered a bust. No running back can succeed when we put absolutely no value into our line besides signing a few mediocre veterans and using late draft picks to patch one together.
I agree with you in principle, but the Vikings had one of the worst OLines in the league last year... and then they invested in it.
They took an OT with their 2nd round pick in 2018 and a C #18 overall and a OG with their 4th rounder this year.
Post by: guinness77 on October 30, 2019, 02:24:49 PM
I agree with you in principle, but the Vikings had one of the worst OLines in the league last year... and then they invested in it.That’s my point. They picked o-line at premium spots in the draft while we continue to take projects and 6th rounders. I don’t think it’s any coincidence that right after we used 2 1st round picks on offensive linemen we were almost immediately a much better team.
They took an OT with their 2nd round pick in 2018 and a C #18 overall and a OG with their 4th rounder this year.
Post by: MexJetinBcn on October 30, 2019, 02:25:17 PM
I agree with you in principle, but the Vikings had one of the worst OLines in the league last year... and then they invested in it.
They took an OT with their 2nd round pick in 2018 and a C #18 overall and a OG with their 4th rounder this year.
And that’s what we will likely do next year with Le’Veon. I also wanted Dalvin, but we have a back that’s as good as he is.
Post by: dcm1602 on October 30, 2019, 02:34:53 PM
@Connor_J_Hughes
Adams confirms what
@Realrclark25
said about him wanting to play for the #Cowboys
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
Jamal Adams on if he wants to be with #Jets long term or if he will ask for trade in offseason “I really don’t know”
Asked if he thinks Jets want him: “I don’t know”
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
“The Rams don’t take calls on Aaron Donald. The #Patriots don’t take calls on Tom Brady.”
Jamal Adams says he has not talked to Joe Douglas. He doesn’t want to.
Said he found out Monday — despite what Douglas said — the #Jets were calling teams about him
Post by: Andrew Ryan on October 30, 2019, 02:36:31 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 30, 2019, 02:38:48 PM
Connor HughesJamal is way too sensitive. Love the guy but he is so damn sensitive.
@Connor_J_Hughes
Adams confirms what
@Realrclark25
said about him wanting to play for the #Cowboys
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
Jamal Adams on if he wants to be with #Jets long term or if he will ask for trade in offseason “I really don’t know”
Asked if he thinks Jets want him: “I don’t know”
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
“The Rams don’t take calls on Aaron Donald. The #Patriots don’t take calls on Tom Brady.”
Jamal Adams says he has not talked to Joe Douglas. He doesn’t want to.
Said he found out Monday — despite what Douglas said — the #Jets were calling teams about him
Post by: MexJetinBcn on October 30, 2019, 02:42:13 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 30, 2019, 02:47:46 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 30, 2019, 02:57:39 PM
Tbh I don’t love him that much anymore. He’s being a pain in the derriere lately and he played like excrement a couple of games this season. We suck as an organization but his attitude is not helping anyone.Meh. I dont like reading and hearing this stuff either but I just view it as Jamal being sensitive and fed up with losing. He was fed up, then he realized he might get traded to a better situation and got excited. Now he didnt and hes back to being fed up.
I think this can blow over, but I could see Jamal being a pain wanting a new contract this offseason.
Post by: mj2sexay on October 30, 2019, 02:59:16 PM
There's self-assured confidence and delusion. He's rapidly falling on the latter side of that coin.
Still, nothing less than the package they want, or he stays. He has ZERO leverage.
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 30, 2019, 03:03:53 PM
Jamal Adams has been the epitome of a good soldier. Every game he shows up and clearly gives 100%. No matter how bad the loss, he stands in front of the media and answers every question. The only thing he complains about is he hates losing (kinda like all of us), and any blame he ever talks about is on himself. He's (rightfully) upset that he just met with his head coach and GM on Friday to be clear he wanted nothing to do with leaving, yet the team would've given him up for a good enough package.
So he's a sensitive complainer?
JFC, we don't deserve nice things.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 30, 2019, 03:04:06 PM
Post by: MexJetinBcn on October 30, 2019, 03:06:39 PM
Lmao at comparing oneself to Tom Brady or Aaron Donald.
There's self-assured confidence and delusion. He's rapidly falling on the latter side of that coin.
Still, nothing less than the package they want, or he stays. He has ZERO leverage.
This, he’s a 23 year old kid that has enormous potential. He wants to be treated like royalty before deserving it. And this is just the beginning. He’s gonna be a pain in the derriere for months to come, you’ll see.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 30, 2019, 03:11:35 PM
Gase throws people under the bus literally every week. His offensive gameplans are trash fires. Yet there are people who not only want to keep him all year, but next year as well.So do you want Douglas fired too?
Jamal Adams has been the epitome of a good soldier. Every game he shows up and clearly gives 100%. No matter how bad the loss, he stands in front of the media and answers every question. The only thing he complains about is he hates losing (kinda like all of us), and any blame he ever talks about is on himself. He's (rightfully) upset that he just met with his head coach and GM on Friday to be clear he wanted nothing to do with leaving, yet the team would've given him up for a good enough package.
So he's a sensitive complainer?
JFC, we don't deserve nice things.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 30, 2019, 03:13:53 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on October 30, 2019, 03:14:15 PM
This, he’s a 23 year old kid that has enormous potential. He wants to be treated like royalty before deserving it. And this is just the beginning. He’s gonna be a pain in the derriere for months to come, you’ll see.
I think people are exaggerating with their complaints about Jamal. Him being butt hurt about the trade thing isn't unreasonable. However I do believe he wanted to be traded to Dallas, and this whole thing that's happening now is him and his agent gaining public support so he can force a trade in the offseason
Post by: Rosetta Stoned on October 30, 2019, 03:14:21 PM
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
Adams confirms what
@Realrclark25
said about him wanting to play for the #Cowboys
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
Jamal Adams on if he wants to be with #Jets long term or if he will ask for trade in offseason “I really don’t know”
Asked if he thinks Jets want him: “I don’t know”
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
“The Rams don’t take calls on Aaron Donald. The #Patriots don’t take calls on Tom Brady.”
Jamal Adams says he has not talked to Joe Douglas. He doesn’t want to.
Said he found out Monday — despite what Douglas said — the #Jets were calling teams about him
Wow, is this guy freaking serious? His behavior this season reminds me more of a 16-year-old teenage girl than a captain and supposed leader of a professional football team.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 30, 2019, 03:21:58 PM
Post by: MexJetinBcn on October 30, 2019, 03:24:37 PM
I think people are exaggerating with their complaints about Jamal. Him being butt hurt about the trade thing isn't unreasonable. However I do believe he wanted to be traded to Dallas, and this whole thing that's happening now is him and his agent gaining public support so he can force a trade in the offseason
No. He's exaggerating his complains about the situation. Him not wanting to talk to Douglas is absurdly unprofessional. Imagine your boss calls you to his office and you say "no, I don't feel like it, sorry, I'll talk whenever I feel it's time". I come from a different sports milieu (soccer), but there's also big prima donnas there, and I could never see even Cristiano Ronaldo or Neymar pulling excrement like that.
Post by: loyaljetsfan on October 30, 2019, 03:53:12 PM
The Jets broke Jamal Adams
Don't be surprised if Darnold is next.
Post by: dcm1602 on October 30, 2019, 03:55:43 PM
Also...Belichick would listen to trade offers on Brady for sure. He has no loyalty to players.
Would, he freaking did
Remember when they traded Jimmy G and Belichick had wanted to trade Brady to the 49ers instead but Kraft overruled him
Post by: MBGreen on October 30, 2019, 04:00:06 PM
Come on man, tons of people here defended it. “He’s a first round value!”I was on the Dalvin train too
I was mad because I wanted Dalvin Cook, but I was more mad that we spent a high 2nd round pick on a safety after just having spent the 6th overall pick on a safety. We had needs at a ton of other positions.
Post by: MBGreen on October 30, 2019, 04:01:39 PM
The Jets broke Jamal AdamsThis
Post by: MBGreen on October 30, 2019, 04:14:42 PM
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 30, 2019, 04:17:38 PM
Bell reacted to not being traded by preaching patience. Jamal reacted by being offended at the notion he could ever get traded.
This sums it up.
I like Adams but can we not open games by allowing 8 minute TD drives before we extend him for life? We can go 1-6 just as easily without him.
Post by: Libero_2 on October 30, 2019, 04:29:46 PM
We should get Jamal to post here...he overreacts more than most of us, he’ll fit right in.
How do we know he doesn’t?
Post by: dcm1602 on October 30, 2019, 04:30:56 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 30, 2019, 04:45:29 PM
So do you want Douglas fired too?
No. Because I don't think Douglas did anything wrong. I don't blame him for taking calls. I'd take them too.
I just don't blame Adams for being upset about the way things went down. Does anyone here really believe his agent didn't overplay the situation to Jamal? I'm sure he made it sound like Douglas was actively shopping him, whether true or not. Makes it a lot easier when it comes contract time to say "Hey Jamal, we need to fight for that extra million. Remember the time they disrespected you?"
Post by: Jumbo on October 30, 2019, 04:45:41 PM
Connor Hughes
Verified account @Connor_J_Hughes
Jamal Adams said Adam Gase and Joe Douglas tried calling and talking to him. “I’m not ready to talk” #Jets
What a whiny little bitch lmao
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 30, 2019, 04:48:16 PM
How do we know he doesn’t?
Mal B Green
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 30, 2019, 04:48:54 PM
Connor Hughes
Verified account @Connor_J_Hughes
Jamal Adams said Adam Gase and Joe Douglas tried calling and talking to him. “I’m not ready to talk” #Jets
What a whiny little bitch lmao
He needs to get over it. I was a hothead at 24 too, I get it, but I was wrong a lot of the time.
Post by: dcm1602 on October 30, 2019, 04:49:11 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 30, 2019, 04:49:26 PM
This guy flat out went to Gase and Douglas and told them he wants to be a Jet. How many guys do you think have done that in this team's history? He plays harder than anyone on the field every week. He hates losing just as much as any of us--likely more.
Then again, this is the same board that was strongly against signing that lazy malcontent locker-room-cancer Le'Veon Bell too.
Post by: MBGreen on October 30, 2019, 04:53:07 PM
Mal B GreenWhat gave it away....my 12.68 40 time?
Post by: Jumbo on October 30, 2019, 04:57:23 PM
I still can't believe people are getting on Adams' case.
This guy flat out went to Gase and Douglas and told them he wants to be a Jet. How many guys do you think have done that in this team's history? He plays harder than anyone on the field every week. He hates losing just as much as any of us--likely more.
Then again, this is the same board that was strongly against signing that lazy malcontent locker-room-cancer Le'Veon Bell too.
They didn't actively shop him. They have a clearly high valuation of him. Him talking to Ryan Clark and all but confirming what he said about the Cowboys pretty clearly shows that Jamal isn't exactly Mr. Goody Two Shoes here.
Post by: Rosetta Stoned on October 30, 2019, 05:04:46 PM
I still can't believe people are getting on Adams' case.
Look how people like Bell or, hell, even Robbie Anderson have reacted to the trade deadline, then look how Adams has reacted. See any difference?
This guy flat out went to Gase and Douglas and told them he wants to be a Jet. How many guys do you think have done that in this team's history? He plays harder than anyone on the field every week. He hates losing just as much as any of us--likely more.
Were you there present when Adams spoke to the Gase and/or Douglas? Because there have been a lot of conflicting reports, plus the stuff Ryan Clark reported, which Adams more or less confirmed, doesn't paint him in a positive picture, quite the opposite.
Just trade him to Cincinnati or an NFC bottom feeder come March.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 30, 2019, 05:23:28 PM
Quote
Not saying I’m the greatest ever. But you shouldn’t tell a guy you are the cornerstone of the team on Friday, that you won’t be moved, and then negotiate terms with other teams 3 days later...
But look, I’m at peace with everything! It’s all Luv!
https://twitter.com/theadamsera/status/1189668680260562944?s=21
Post by: Jumbo on October 30, 2019, 05:24:46 PM
https://twitter.com/theadamsera/status/1189668680260562944?s=21
Just shut the freak up Jamal, this is embarrassing
Post by: dcm1602 on October 30, 2019, 05:27:18 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on October 30, 2019, 05:27:44 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 30, 2019, 05:28:13 PM
I'm still confused with Jamal saying he wants to be traded to the cowboys, then being upset we tried to trade him to the cowboys
You have the sequence of events backwards
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 30, 2019, 05:33:31 PM
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Locked in! My focus is on this team and the Dolphins game Sunday. I’m past everything. Looking forward to taking the field and competing.
Still Your President
Post by: Badger on October 30, 2019, 05:35:47 PM
Gonna have to chance his name to President Mal-Content amirightDon't give NYDN/NYP any ideas
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 30, 2019, 05:36:21 PM
This guy flat out went to Gase and Douglas and told them he wants to be a Jet. How many guys do you think have done that in this team's history? He plays harder than anyone on the field every week. He hates losing just as much as any of us--likely more.I mean, didn't Robby basically do that?
I think this will blow over if we win next year (and aren't a complete joke down the stretch this year). But if we struggle again next year, I could see him asking for a trade.
Post by: dcm1602 on October 30, 2019, 05:45:45 PM
I mean, didn't Robby basically do that?
I think this will blow over if we win next year (and aren't a complete joke down the stretch this year). But if we struggle again next year, I could see him asking for a trade.
I doubt Dallas is going to trade him after one season
Post by: MexJetinBcn on October 30, 2019, 06:09:07 PM
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As Adams talked on Wednesday, Le’Veon Bell, who also found himself at the source of trade speculation, walked around behind reporters. He shouted in remarks multiple times, including, “I’m done with Jamal, bro.” Adams made an under-the-breath remark that Bell was acting “totally different today” than yesterday, and he didn’t “know why.”
Post by: Heismanberg on October 30, 2019, 06:11:38 PM
Per Connor Hughes...
The circus is back in town
Post by: Jumbo on October 30, 2019, 06:13:00 PM
However, he does need to metaphorically shut up and dribble
Post by: MBGreen on October 30, 2019, 06:17:35 PM
The circus is back in townJets locker room, fractured?
Post by: Pope on October 30, 2019, 06:35:00 PM
Post by: Jumbo on October 30, 2019, 06:35:50 PM
Let’s just go the Patriots way and end this excrement. Draft and sign only white players from now on
Take Chase Young
Post by: MexJetinBcn on October 30, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Let’s just go the Patriots way and end this excrement. Draft and sign only white players from now on
And the odd sexual abuser WR to spice things up
Post by: guinness77 on October 30, 2019, 06:49:50 PM
Per Connor Hughes...Sounds like a joke, more than anything.
You dont think the players know the media are assclowns, either?
Post by: dcm1602 on October 30, 2019, 07:15:08 PM
Post by: Johnny English on October 30, 2019, 07:16:50 PM
Is there any realistic scenario that Jamal is a jet next year? I'd have to put the odds in the single digits if I was guessing
Cool, I'll take that bet. I'll be generous, I'll give you 10s. How much do you want?
Post by: dcm1602 on October 30, 2019, 07:30:22 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 30, 2019, 08:00:31 PM
Sounds like a joke, more than anything.The next line in the article said that Hughes wasn't sure if Bell was joking or not.
You dont think the players know the media are assclowns, either?
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 30, 2019, 09:00:12 PM
The next line in the article said that Hughes wasn't sure if Bell was joking or not.
Uttuh disastuh
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 30, 2019, 09:01:08 PM
Let’s just go the Patriots way and end this excrement. Draft and sign only white players from now on
Braxton Berrios is enough
Post by: bojanglesman on October 31, 2019, 05:07:56 AM
Post by: insanity on October 31, 2019, 05:15:15 AM
I was taught to listen to all phone calls - good
We didnt get the value we were looking for - ehh
Jamal and maye are tradable, Sam is not - seriously?
I hope he did a better job explaining why he took offers to Jamal. It's really simple, I need to listen to teams because if someone is willing to give me 5x your value o need to take it. Sam is our future and he is getting killed out there. If someone is giving me a kings ransom that allows me to set up Sam and this team for success I need to do it.
Post by: Miamipuck on October 31, 2019, 08:45:35 AM
Jamal isn't Ed Reed, not the least of which that whiny queynte tried to facilitate his derriere going to Dallas. This Twitter social media cuntery he's doing is damage control by him and his agent. Shut the freak up and play, I don't need to see or hear him the rest of the season.
I am tired of this whole Jets thing right now. They do notdo their job, they get burned, they do, do their job, they get burned. Maybe Douglas will luck into a decent draft, he simply can't be worse than Duff and Idzik, can he?
Post by: insanity on October 31, 2019, 10:23:06 AM
Jesus freaking Christ, the Jets, particularly Douglas, did nothing wrong here. It would be malfeasance on his part not to 1.)Listen to offers 2.) Counter with what it would take to make a deal. That's what any GM worth their salt should do.
Jamal isn't Ed Reed, not the least of which that whiny queynte tried to facilitate his derriere going to Dallas. This Twitter social media cuntery he's doing is damage control by him and his agent. Shut the freak up and play, I don't need to see or hear him the rest of the season.
I am tired of this whole Jets thing right now. They do notdo their job, they get burned, they do, do their job, they get burned. Maybe Douglas will luck into a decent draft, he simply can't be worse than Duff and Idzik, can he?
Not sure if you are responding to me, but I have no problem with Joe Douglas did. To your point, he wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't field those calls.
My point was that his communication with the media in his press conference was not great. He wasn't clear, he wasn't confident, he didn't push the narrative in his favor. It is not the end of the world, but if you decide to discuss what occurred in public you better be able to communicate it well to the New York media.
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 31, 2019, 11:15:10 AM
Post by: Miamipuck on October 31, 2019, 11:15:41 AM
Not sure if you are responding to me, but I have no problem with Joe Douglas did. To your point, he wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't field those calls.
My point was that his communication with the media in his press conference was not great. He wasn't clear, he wasn't confident, he didn't push the narrative in his favor. It is not the end of the world, but if you decide to discuss what occurred in public you better be able to communicate it well to the New York media.
Nope just a general response, I would quote you directly and tell you to freak yourself, ask MB. Hahaha
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 31, 2019, 11:17:12 AM
...ask MB. Hahaha
He's out on the ledge if you need him.
Post by: Miamipuck on October 31, 2019, 11:28:14 AM
He's out on the ledge if you need him.
Please pass him a message for me?
"Go ahead and jump".
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 31, 2019, 11:41:22 AM
What is he, 23 years old? Just because he's a really good player doesn't mean he isn't also immature like the rest of us were at that age. I have a tendency to forget that players with elite talent aren't necessarily mentally mature. They are still kids.
This is what it really comes down to, and follows along the point I was trying to make yesterday. We're a bunch of grown-derriere men on a message board and we pee and moan louder than this every week.
Douglas did his job. Adams has to come to terms with that. But it may take a couple of days and a private talking to by someone like Bell. Big deal.
Hopefully, he sits down with Gase and Douglas in the next day or two and gets it all off his chest and they all move on with Adams here long-term.
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 31, 2019, 12:33:07 PM
This is what it really comes down to, and follows along the point I was trying to make yesterday. We're a bunch of grown-derriere men on a message board and we pee and moan louder than this every week.
Douglas did his job. Adams has to come to terms with that. But it may take a couple of days and a private talking to by someone like Bell. Big deal.
Hopefully, he sits down with Gase and Douglas in the next day or two and gets it all off his chest and they all move on with Adams here long-term.
I was saying this yesterday. I was kind of that guy at 24, you cool off over a few days and then people can talk sense with you. Add to that he is a star athlete who can probably count on his fingers all the times in his life he didn't completely get his way.
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 31, 2019, 08:06:09 PM
Post by: Badger on October 31, 2019, 09:05:55 PM
the last few pages of this thread is full blown aidsThe biggest witch hunt in history!
Post by: insanity on November 01, 2019, 07:12:20 AM
That did not happen for Adams or Bell, but I happen to believe him.
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 01, 2019, 11:32:31 AM
Take it for what it's worth, but on a michael kay interview Gase said if we were thinking about trading someone Joe Douglas would knock on his door and let him know.
That did not happen for Adams or Bell, but I happen to believe him.
I have no doubt Douglas and Gase are telling the truth. Nothing worthwhile ever materialized, but Douglas, being dilligent in his job, took phone calls.
Adams just needs to get this out of his system, understand the business of the sport, and get past it. I hope it's here.
Post by: MexJetinBcn on November 01, 2019, 12:42:03 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 01, 2019, 12:46:18 PM
Adams in full damage control mode today. He spoke to Chris Johnson and says everything is fine. I’m on the phone so it’s harder to paste the tweets, but he seems to be ready to move forward.
Good. That's exactly what I was hoping for.
We all make mistakes, especially in our early 20s. Get over it, and get moving forward with this team!
#alwaysmypresident
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 01, 2019, 03:29:09 PM
Post by: Badger on November 02, 2019, 06:50:27 AM
Post by: dcm1602 on November 02, 2019, 08:08:08 AM
ESPN radio just took a call from a guy who couldn't remember Jamal Adams' name who called in specifically to excrement on him.
So in other words the typical person who watches espn
Post by: Heismanberg on November 02, 2019, 08:57:08 AM
ESPN radio just took a call from a guy who couldn't remember Jamal Adams' name who called in specifically to excrement on him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faZfuIoAMcg
Post by: dcm1602 on November 03, 2019, 08:22:54 AM
At least we know Douglas has his priorities straight.
Now just to see how he drafts and how loyal he is to Gase
Post by: dcm1602 on November 03, 2019, 05:38:09 PM
@TheAdamsEra
So if I blow up, im a distraction, I’m selfish, or a diva... but if I’m calm Or don’t show emotion I don’t care???
Unreal.
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Post by: Andrew Ryan on November 03, 2019, 05:39:21 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 03, 2019, 05:44:34 PM
Cimini is a fag
QFT
Post by: Johnny English on November 03, 2019, 06:07:38 PM
Cimini is a fag
Although if I read that right it's not the point, which is that Adams is being deliberately anodyne.
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 04, 2019, 09:44:13 AM
Although if I read that right it's not the point, which is that Adams is being deliberately anodyne.
I watched the postgame. Adams was being pretty deliberate in keeping his emotions in check, even though the beat guys were trying their best to get him to snap.
Cimini, along with everyone else, was trying to make Adams out to seem uncaring. He clearly wasn't (as a matter of fact, he was really upset and said so because he wasn't allowed to go back in the game after passing the concussion protocol). He was just keeping himself composed to avoid the nonsense from last week.
Cimini is trying to stir the pot while trying to play innocent.
Post by: Badger on November 04, 2019, 10:50:34 AM
I watched the postgame. Adams was being pretty deliberate in keeping his emotions in check, even though the beat guys were trying their best to get him to snap.I already assumed everything you wrote without having seen any post game stuff.
Cimini, along with everyone else, was trying to make Adams out to seem uncaring. He clearly wasn't (as a matter of fact, he was really upset and said so because he wasn't allowed to go back in the game after passing the concussion protocol). He was just keeping himself composed to avoid the nonsense from last week.
Cimini is trying to stir the pot while trying to play innocent.
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 04, 2019, 10:58:14 AM
I already assumed everything you wrote without having seen any post game stuff.
Wash-rinse-repeat
Post by: d sw0rdz on November 04, 2019, 07:31:09 PM
Wash-rinse-repeat
why the fvck are all of our beat writers such fvcking pussies
both need their asses beat, this excrement has been going on unchecked for years, but i'm sure even that wouldn't change their ways as they're both so fvcking dense/clueless
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 05, 2019, 10:57:17 AM
why the fvck are all of our beat writers such fvcking pussies
both need their asses beat, this excrement has been going on unchecked for years, but i'm sure even that wouldn't change their ways as they're both so fvcking dense/clueless
Honestly, I don't even blame the actual reporters themselves (Cimini, Mehta, Costello, et al). It's a natural byproduct of working for a media outlet in a city with far too many major news outlets. Everyone needs an "angle" to sell.
Mehta was an absolutely fantastic reporter when he was still with the Star Ledger. Once he crossed the Hudson to work for Daily News, he had to have a completely different approach--which became even worse after the layoffs and "restructuring" that turned it into a legitimized version of TMZ.
Post by: Badger on November 05, 2019, 03:35:57 PM
why the fvck are all of our beat writers such fvcking pussiesTime to call IK
both need their asses beat, this excrement has been going on unchecked for years, but i'm sure even that wouldn't change their ways as they're both so fvcking dense/clueless
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 07, 2019, 01:59:25 PM
Quote from: Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN
.@TheAdamsEra on his talk a few days ago with Joe Douglas & Adam Gase: “It went well. I told them that I don’t hate those guys. I got nothing but love for those guys. ... I would love to be here. I want to bring a Super Bowl to this organization.”
Post by: Badger on November 10, 2019, 05:57:27 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on November 10, 2019, 06:09:02 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on November 10, 2019, 06:13:51 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 10, 2019, 10:02:28 PM
Imagine wanting to trade this player for a freaking draft pick. Could never be me.
Post by: mj2sexay on November 10, 2019, 10:06:01 PM
Pay dayat man hees money.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 11, 2019, 12:00:15 AM
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 11, 2019, 10:56:19 AM
https://twitter.com/michael_nania/status/1193697642620112896?s=21
Imagine wanting to trade this player for a freaking draft pick. Could never be me.
This
Also, the whole "get rid of the crybaby" nonsense. GTFO
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 11, 2019, 10:56:43 AM
Pay him.
Pay dayat man hees money.
Ray Lucas is my spirit animal
Post by: Jumbo on November 11, 2019, 02:23:29 PM
-Half of the Jets fanbase last week
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 11, 2019, 02:28:38 PM
He's also tied Rhodes for the most tackles for loss by a Jets DB (23)
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 11, 2019, 02:41:20 PM
Jamal Adams (8.5 career sacks) is just a half sack behind Kerry Rhodes (9.0 w/Jets) for the most by a Jets DB
He's also tied Rhodes for the most tackles for loss by a Jets DB (23)
So he's worth at least a first and second rounder, right?
Post by: bojanglesman on November 11, 2019, 06:14:30 PM
Jamal Adams (8.5 career sacks) is just a half sack behind Kerry Rhodes (9.0 w/Jets) for the most by a Jets DBJamal about to start sucking dick on the downlow?
He's also tied Rhodes for the most tackles for loss by a Jets DB (23)
Post by: dcm1602 on November 11, 2019, 07:33:55 PM
So he's worth at least a first and second rounder, right?
No greater accomplishment than breaking Kerry Rhodes records
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 12, 2019, 10:06:54 AM
Quote from: Daniel Jeremiah @MoveTheSticks
This jumps out to me every week- value of tackling at the safety position. Study explosive plays (run & pass) & you’ll see a boatload of missed tackles from safeties. Ball skills, range & instincts are important but tackling is essential. Keeps 8 yd play from becoming 50 yd play
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 12, 2019, 11:12:52 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 12, 2019, 03:07:07 PM
“You get that feeling you know you on bruh.... I’m on, bruh”
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 13, 2019, 07:45:11 AM
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 13, 2019, 12:30:21 PM
@BrianCoz
Johnson gushed about Jamal but said future call is up to Douglas: "When I hired Joe, I told him he had control of the 53. I told him I would have a very light touch when it came to influencing that. ... But I would love to have Jamal on this team forever."
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 13, 2019, 02:17:42 PM
Brian Costello
@BrianCoz
Johnson gushed about Jamal but said future call is up to Douglas: "When I hired Joe, I told him he had control of the 53. I told him I would have a very light touch when it came to influencing that. ... But I would love to have Jamal on this team forever."
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Johnson said he would like Adams to be a Jet for life. Adams: “S—-, I want to be a Jet for life, too.” #Jets
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 13, 2019, 02:29:54 PM
Post by: Johnny English on November 13, 2019, 06:12:46 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on November 13, 2019, 06:21:02 PM
So much fun to watch people debate how many draft picks he was worth in trade. Malcontent, diva, crybaby, who is gonna walk with no compensation as soon as his contract is up.
Adams is under jets control for a long time
Dudes almost certainly getting traded.
Honestly I don't care about his drama and excrement. The dudes an amazing player. The issue is if Sam fails this entire franchise fails. And Adams is the most valuable trade asset while playing one of the least valuable positions in the game.
He's 100% a difference maker in a game. But if picks for him can get Darnold 2 or 3 offensive linemen for the next 10+ years, well Darnold can be a difference maker for a franchise.
Not to mention there was no way we could ever keep Adams and Maye long term
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 14, 2019, 10:46:38 AM
Adams is under jets control for a long time
Dudes almost certainly getting traded.
Honestly I don't care about his drama and excrement. The dudes an amazing player. The issue is if Sam fails this entire franchise fails. And Adams is the most valuable trade asset while playing one of the least valuable positions in the game.
He's 100% a difference maker in a game. But if picks for him can get Darnold 2 or 3 offensive linemen for the next 10+ years, well Darnold can be a difference maker for a franchise.
Not to mention there was no way we could ever keep Adams and Maye long term
Thinking like this is how you manage to suck over a long period of time. Good teams figure out how to keep their best players.
Post by: mj2sexay on November 14, 2019, 10:57:38 AM
Adams is under jets control for a long time
Dudes almost certainly getting traded.
Honestly I don't care about his drama and excrement. The dudes an amazing player. The issue is if Sam fails this entire franchise fails. And Adams is the most valuable trade asset while playing one of the least valuable positions in the game.
He's 100% a difference maker in a game. But if picks for him can get Darnold 2 or 3 offensive linemen for the next 10+ years, well Darnold can be a difference maker for a franchise.
Not to mention there was no way we could ever keep Adams and Maye long term
We can build an offensive line without having to sacrifice Adams. It's not the fault of the current GM obviously since he just got here, but it'd be nice to hit on one of these guys that we take in the middle rounds every once in a while.
I said it in another thread, with the obvious exception of Darnold, there is no player this organization needs to see and properly evaluate more than Edoga.
Post by: insanity on November 14, 2019, 10:58:58 AM
Thinking like this is how you manage to suck over a long period of time. Good teams figure out how to keep their players that have intangiable and game changing skills.Updated your post.
Not many players are drafted in the first round each year that have as much of an impact on the field as Jamal.
Post by: insanity on November 14, 2019, 11:02:12 AM
Jamal is reminding me more of Keyshawn as time goes by. Keyshawn was also highly drafted, brash, opinionated and had no taste for being on a losing team. We didn't have Twitter and Instagram then but the guy wrote a book as a rookie. He rubbed a lot of people the wrong way sometimes, but always got it done on the field. I think you need guys like that, regardless of their position. Safety, like WR, isn't a position you typically build around, but fast forward a couple years, when the rest got into place, and there was Keyshawn as a leader and important piece of the best team we've assembled, possibly ever.
Jamal is a tempo setter. You need guys to challenge other players and to say good is not good enough.
Its human psychology. 95% of people dont give 100% at work everyday. People need motivation whether its through competition, inspiration, or the like.
Jamal provides this for our whole team.
Post by: WD40 on November 14, 2019, 11:10:31 AM
Jamal is reminding me more of Keyshawn as time goes by. Keyshawn was also highly drafted, brash, opinionated and had no taste for being on a losing team. We didn't have Twitter and Instagram then but the guy wrote a book as a rookie. He rubbed a lot of people the wrong way sometimes, but always got it done on the field. I think you need guys like that, regardless of their position. Safety, like WR, isn't a position you typically build around, but fast forward a couple years, when the rest got into place, and there was Keyshawn as a leader and important piece of the best team we've assembled, possibly ever.
Still have that classic ESPN the magazine.
(https://res-5.cloudinary.com/ybmedia/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_700/v1/m/0/f/0f44cbae2bc22e5a0fefcfe12132f17233d0cf3b/keyshawn.jpg)
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 14, 2019, 11:34:14 AM
Still have that classic ESPN the magazine.
(https://res-5.cloudinary.com/ybmedia/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_700/v1/m/0/f/0f44cbae2bc22e5a0fefcfe12132f17233d0cf3b/keyshawn.jpg)
That's awesome. I have this SI cover from January 1999 framed:
(https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvault-cdn.si.com%2FSI_ISSUE_IMAGES%2FSports%2520Illustrated%2F1999%2F01%2F19990118%2FSports_Illustrated_703507_19990118-001-775.jpg&w=2400&q=70)
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 14, 2019, 12:21:30 PM
Jamal is a tempo setter. You need guys to challenge other players and to say good is not good enough.
Its human psychology. 95% of people dont give 100% at work everyday. People need motivation whether its through competition, inspiration, or the like.
Jamal provides this for our whole team.
But you can't pay a safety!!!!!1111one
Post by: dcm1602 on November 14, 2019, 01:41:59 PM
We can build an offensive line without having to sacrifice Adams. It's not the fault of the current GM obviously since he just got here, but it'd be nice to hit on one of these guys that we take in the middle rounds every once in a while.
I said it in another thread, with the obvious exception of Darnold, there is no player this organization needs to see and properly evaluate more than Edoga.
We can, but how quickly and how good can they be?
We literally need to upgrade every single position on the line, this is Darnolds second season and he's regressed substantially.
This franchise has two options. Either risk giving up key staple players (Adams) with hopes that Sam succeeds. Or risk not giving up enoguh assets with hopes Sam doesn't fail.
If it takes 3 more seasons to successfully rebuild our offensive line Sam's fate will very likely have been decided by then.
Not to mention we need to somehow get him a legit #1 receiver in that time frame as well.
The urgency is there with Darnold, it's time for this franchise to gamble everything on his success or failure. Because without him this team goes nowhere
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 14, 2019, 01:57:55 PM
We can, but how quickly and how good can they be?
We literally need to upgrade every single position on the line, this is Darnolds second season and he's regressed substantially.
This franchise has two options. Either risk giving up key staple players (Adams) with hopes that Sam succeeds. Or risk not giving up enoguh assets with hopes Sam doesn't fail.
If it takes 3 more seasons to successfully rebuild our offensive line Sam's fate will very likely have been decided by then.
Not to mention we need to somehow get him a legit #1 receiver in that time frame as well.
The urgency is there with Darnold, it's time for this franchise to gamble everything on his success or failure. Because without him this team goes nowhere
You start with a left tackle and center, we likely can get the LT at the top of the draft. Once you do that a lot of guys can play guard between them, same on the other side. Might not all be all-pro but a lot better than what we have now, immediately Bell would be Bell again, Darnold will be a lot better. That's next year. By another year you can have a solid line, Darnold is 24, Adams in his prime. It doesn't take that long if you draft more than one good player per year.
Do that, you hope Herndon is the real deal at TE, a lot of guys can be productive WRs if not a true #1.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 14, 2019, 02:47:27 PM
You start with a left tackle and center, we likely can get the LT at the top of the draft. Once you do that a lot of guys can play guard between them, same on the other side. Might not all be all-pro but a lot better than what we have now, immediately Bell would be Bell again, Darnold will be a lot better. That's next year. By another year you can have a solid line, Darnold is 24, Adams in his prime. It doesn't take that long if you draft more than one good player per year.
Do that, you hope Herndon is the real deal at TE, a lot of guys can be productive WRs if not a true #1.
You're assuming that LT is BPA when we are drafting
And regardless we still need a right tackle as well.
On this teams "urgent" needs.
Left tackle, right tackle, center. #1 wideout, pass rusher, #1 cornerback.
With left and right guard, a #2 corner also important but not quite as urgent
We're not filling all those needs in one year, it's a huge risk to Darnolds career if we spend 3 years fixing the offense around him.
I absolutely realize Adams is a perennial all pro player, and I would never suggest trading him just for the sake of trading him. But if this team can get a legit bounty for him, a mid first rounder and 2 more high value draft picks (a 2nd, and maybe a late 2nd or early 3rd)
That seriously has to be considered, because Darnold is the entirety of this franchise. And the pieces around him are causing him to fail
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 14, 2019, 03:44:00 PM
Have a good night.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 14, 2019, 03:46:25 PM
You quoted my post, doesn't look like you read it.
Have a good night.
Your post was insanely vague and generic.
Lots of guys can be productive wrs doesn't mean excrement. Nor does it address the numerous glaring holes on offense.
Adams is a stud, but Darnold is the future
Post by: Badger on November 14, 2019, 04:22:04 PM
That being said, I don't want to trade Adams. We can allocate the resources we already have on the OL without sacrificing another part of the team.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 14, 2019, 04:38:27 PM
Different situation and all, but trading Abraham was a key part of our 2006 rebuild.
That being said, I don't want to trade Adams. We can allocate the resources we already have on the OL without sacrificing another part of the team.
Sure we can, but it's a risk. Is it enoguh, and fast enoguh? Hell if our first round pick is an LT and he doesn't pan out, and we didn't invest extra resources into the OL. We might as well have Darnold join Rex and Sanchez on ESPN now
This team has to go all in on Darnold. And so far we've basically handed him a bag of dicks.
We either make up for it, or become less relevant than the Bills
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 14, 2019, 05:26:54 PM
Sure we can, but it's a risk. Is it enoguh, and fast enoguh? Hell if our first round pick is an LT and he doesn't pan out, and we didn't invest extra resources into the OL. We might as well have Darnold join Rex and Sanchez on ESPN nowThis team needs to accumulate talent. We don't have to go all in on anyone. Yes, helping Darnold is the most important thing this team can do, but if the rest of the team sucks, it doesn't matter.
This team has to go all in on Darnold. And so far we've basically handed him a bag of dicks.
We either make up for it, or become less relevant than the Bills
If Jamal can get us two 1st-round picks and something else, you have to consider it. Anything less, and I would build around Jamal on defense.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 14, 2019, 05:46:22 PM
This team needs to accumulate talent. We don't have to go all in on anyone. Yes, helping Darnold is the most important thing this team can do, but if the rest of the team sucks, it doesn't matter.
If Jamal can get us two 1st-round picks and something else, you have to consider it. Anything less, and I would build around Jamal on defense.
I mean 2 1st is unlikely.
But Jamal and a 4th for a middle 1st and two 2nds or something like that would be absolutely freaking huge
Regardless we have two very talented safeties that we can't afford to pay long term regardless.
And we have glaring needs elsewhere.
If Jamal can get us 3 prime picks you have to do it, this team needs to build around Sam not Jamal Adams
Post by: Johnny English on November 14, 2019, 06:44:07 PM
On this teams "urgent" needs.
Left tackle, right tackle, center. #1 wideout, pass rusher, #1 cornerback.
With left and right guard, a #2 corner also important but not quite as urgent
I sometimes wonder if you ever actually watch Jets games, and if you do if you really understand what you're watching.
You've pretty much got it entirely the wrong way round. While every position on the line could stand an upgrade the interior is by far the biggest problem; both guard positions plus center are a disaster. Beachum isn't great but he's serviceable, he's still only going to be 31 next season and he won't be too expensive to bring back, while Edoga is a rookie so can't be judged yet and Shell might still have something if they get someone other than freaking idiot Pollack running the show.
For me, the optimal move is to draft Thomas and put him at RT, kick Shell inside to guard (he's big for a tackle and could definitely play interior), draft the center from Wisconsin with the unpronounceable name because Wisconsin's linemen are all good and there are no good free agents at the position, and hope that Winters gets healthy and remembers how he was actually good that one season.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 14, 2019, 08:38:38 PM
Center is a diasaster I don't disagree there.
But I'll take Lewis and Winters over giving Beachum a big contract and having faith in whoever to step up at tackle. Though I think we could upgrade on both of them inside.
Winters has been shitty and hurt, but I think he has a fairly solid chance of coming back next year even though we save almost 8 million if we cut him
And none of us know where or why all the confusion on the OL is coming from. It seems like none of them have a freaking clue what they are supposed to be doing on any given play
Post by: Johnny English on November 14, 2019, 08:47:08 PM
Beachum is going to be an UFA. Who knows what kind of contract he lands.
Center is a diasaster I don't disagree there.
But I'll take Lewis and Winters over giving Beachum a big contract and having faith in whoever to step up at tackle. Though I think we could upgrade on both of them inside.
Winters has been shitty and hurt, but I think he has a fairly solid chance of coming back next year even though we save almost 8 million if we cut him
And none of us know where or why all the confusion on the OL is coming from. It seems like none of them have a freaking clue what they are supposed to be doing on any given play
Lewis has been garbage the last two weeks after a promising start, his career has been dogged by injuries and mediocre play. Winters is running out of credit, especially given his salary; he might be able to be good again but no one's putting money on it at this stage.
Again, we can stand to upgrade every single position on the OL but right now Beachum is our best starter and LT is our least significant problem. Thomas can play either side, hence my suggestion that we draft him and put him at RT with Shell moving to guard.
Clearly the coaching is a huge issue. Dennison was doing better with less talent.
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 14, 2019, 08:51:04 PM
Edoga, Winters, Harrison and McDermott are the only OL under contract next season. While it's probably unrealistic to get 5 new OL, we will probably try to get 2-4 new starters.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 14, 2019, 08:55:41 PM
Lewis has been garbage the last two weeks after a promising start, his career has been dogged by injuries and mediocre play. Winters is running out of credit, especially given his salary; he might be able to be good again but no one's putting money on it at this stage.
Again, we can stand to upgrade every single position on the OL but right now Beachum is our best starter and LT is our least significant problem. Thomas can play either side, hence my suggestion that we draft him and put him at RT with Shell moving to guard.
Clearly the coaching is a huge issue. Dennison was doing better with less talent.
Lewis could probably come back on a one year deal for next to nothing.
Beachum is probably getting a 3 to 4 year deal with starter money
I don't think I'd want to invest into Beachum like that
Post by: Johnny English on November 14, 2019, 09:01:15 PM
Lewis could probably come back on a one year deal for next to nothing.
Beachum is probably getting a 3 to 4 year deal with starter money
I don't think I'd want to invest into Beachum like that
Why would you rather have cheap excrement linemen than OK ones on OK money?
Post by: dcm1602 on November 14, 2019, 09:11:58 PM
Why would you rather have cheap excrement linemen than OK ones on OK money?
Because free agency starts before the draft.
You don't know who will be available when you are on the clock.
If you give Beachum big money then draft an LT it's awkward.
If you give Lewis excrement then draft a guard, then he's just depth.
And they all need to be replaced
Post by: Johnny English on November 14, 2019, 09:14:03 PM
Because free agency starts before the draft.
You don't know who will be available when you are on the clock.
If you give Beachum big money then draft an LT it's awkward.
If you give Lewis excrement then draft a guard, then he's just depth.
And they all need to be replaced
Have you looked at the draft? We're not taking two tackles. In an ideal world we'll take one with our first pick, then go back to OL with one of our second round picks.
Beachum is going to be value for money on his next contract and we're going to need him.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 14, 2019, 09:18:26 PM
Have you looked at the draft? We're not taking two tackles. In an ideal world we'll take one with our first pick, then go back to OL with one of our second round picks.
Beachum is going to be value for money on his next contract and we're going to need him.
If we draft an LT in the top 5 can Beachum play right tackle?
Post by: Johnny English on November 14, 2019, 09:21:23 PM
If we draft an LT in the top 5 can Beachum play right tackle?
If we draft Andrew Thomas in the top 5 he can play right tackle and Beachum can play LT. I believe I already explained this. And if Tyler Biadasz falls to our second round pick, or if we can trade back into the first for him, we'll have our center.
Beachum - Shell - Biadasz - Winters - Thomas looks like a wet dream.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 14, 2019, 09:25:05 PM
If we draft Andrew Thomas in the top 5 he can play right tackle and Beachum can play LT. I believe I already explained this. And if Tyler Biadasz falls to our second round pick, or if we can trade back into the first for him, we'll have our center.
Beachum - Shell - Biadasz - Winters - Thomas looks like a wet dream.
Do we draft an LT in the first to have him play RT for 3 years while we're paying beachum solid money though?
I doubt Beachum settles for less than 3 years of solid guaranteed money
Post by: Johnny English on November 14, 2019, 09:27:21 PM
Do we draft an LT in the first to have him play RT for 3 years while we're paying beachum solid money though?You know there's a draft every year, right?
I doubt Beachum settles for less than 3 years of solid guaranteed money
Post by: insanity on November 14, 2019, 09:40:00 PM
You know there's a draft every year, right?(https://i.imgur.com/PN8Zvlf.jpg)
Post by: MBGreen on November 15, 2019, 08:34:42 AM
Post by: Johnny English on November 15, 2019, 12:42:31 PM
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 15, 2019, 12:43:55 PM
Your post was insanely vague and generic.
How? I laid out exactly which positions I'd start with (OT, C), where I'd get the hardest one to fill (OT, top 10 pick), how it would affect the existing players (Bell, Darnold, whoever plays OG). Then I looked at the year after next, how old our main players would be, and who we'd have here to help them. Did you want a mock draft or something? Of course if you miss on the draft picks we'll continue to be a bad team, we've done that for years, but what is your plan to fix the O line, beginning with the tackles?
Your plan seems to be cut and trade anyone of value to save money and keep starting over. We've done that two or three times now since our last playoff appearance, how is that working out for you?
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 15, 2019, 12:49:26 PM
Different situation and all, but trading Abraham was a key part of our 2006 rebuild.
That being said, I don't want to trade Adams. We can allocate the resources we already have on the OL without sacrificing another part of the team.
This is a great comparison, actually. I think the difference with Abraham was that he cared more about getting paid than winning, and he was hurt a lot. If I remember correctly he skipped the playoffs while Pennington was out there with his arm falling off trying to will us through the games. So while he played an important position, he was less reliable and less of a leader to commit that much money and years to. The fact that we turned him into Nick Mangold (I think) was a rare stroke of luck for this franchise. Would have been interesting if he was still here when Rex got here. #KeepRex
Unless Jamal turns into more of an Abraham than a Keyshawn I think trading him is nuts. The idea is to add top young talent, not to get rid if it.
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 15, 2019, 01:18:25 PM
Adams has flat out said he wants to not only stay, but help lead this team to a Lombardi. He gives 100% on every single play. By all accounts, he works just as hard in practice as in-game.
You keep guys like that. They're foundational players and you build your team around them.
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 15, 2019, 01:20:35 PM
Quote
April 18, 1998: Traded by Chargers as 2000 1st round pick (13th overall) to Buccaneers for 1998 2nd round pick (59th overall, Mikhael Ricks)
April 12, 2000: Traded by Buccaneers as 2000 1st round pick (13th overall) with 2000 1st round pick (27th overall, Anthony Becht) to Jets for Keyshawn Johnson
March 22, 2006: Traded by Jets to Falcons as part of a 3-team trade. Broncos sent 2006 1st round pick (29th overall, Nick Mangold) to Jets. Broncos sent 2006 3rd round pick (93rd overall subsequently traded, Dominique Byrd) and 2007 4th round pick (121st overall subsequently traded, Marcus Thomas) to Falcons. Falcons sent 2006 1st round pick (15th overall subsequently traded, Tye Hill) to Broncos.
So Keyshawn eventually became Nick Mangold.
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 15, 2019, 01:43:59 PM
Pretty interesting trade history for Abraham's career:
So Keyshawn eventually became Nick Mangold.
Wow, that's pretty good.
Reminds me of Bill Cartwright--Knicks drafted him in 1979, played 10 years here, traded to Chicago for Charles Oakley in 1988, Oak played 10 years here and was traded to Toronto for Marcus Camby in 1998. If they dummies who took over didn't trade Camby we could still be in business.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 15, 2019, 02:04:40 PM
If Adams is willing to play his 4th year, 5th year option, and franchise tag the next 3 years then I can understand keeping him.
If he thinks he's getting Elite money after this season, the Jets absolutely have to trade his derriere.
Personally id trade him Eitherway, but those two factors would make the decision a whole lot easier or harder
Post by: mj2sexay on November 15, 2019, 02:46:17 PM
https://twitter.com/TheAdamsEra/status/1195366501303357440
Post by: Johnny English on November 15, 2019, 07:04:03 PM
Our President with an absolute beat down on that idiot Leonard Fournette on twitter.
https://twitter.com/TheAdamsEra/status/1195366501303357440
Yes, we know. Try and keep up.
Post by: Badger on November 15, 2019, 07:07:32 PM
F U JE
Post by: Jumbo on November 15, 2019, 07:10:08 PM
https://twitter.com/TheAdamsEra/status/1195366501303357440
Post by: Johnny English on November 15, 2019, 07:31:33 PM
https://twitter.com/TheAdamsEra/status/1195366501303357440?s=19You're all just bitter because your hockey team sucks even more than mine does.
F U JE
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 18, 2019, 11:09:27 AM
Post by: Miamipuck on November 18, 2019, 11:28:03 AM
So should we trade him right now for 2 second rounders?
Whatever DCM thinks we should get.
BTW I was fed up with his bs at the trade deadline too. I have overcome that though. lol
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 18, 2019, 11:38:57 AM
Whatever DCM thinks we should get.
BTW I was fed up with his bs at the trade deadline too. I have overcome that though. lol
The guy talked his talk. Then he went out and walked it. He felt he was elite and should be treated that way. He wasn't wrong.
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 18, 2019, 11:39:20 AM
Post by: dcm1602 on November 18, 2019, 12:21:55 PM
Jamals the best player on the team. But Sam succeeding is more important.
Hopefully Jamals up to two 1st and a 3rd for him and a 4th or 5th
Post by: guinness77 on November 18, 2019, 12:38:54 PM
The dude is excellent. But he feasted against the worst offense in the league, and a bad offense missing 3 linemen.Lol
Hopefully Jamals up to two 1st and a 3rd for him and a 4th or 5th
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 18, 2019, 12:40:41 PM
The dude is excellent. But he feasted against the worst offense in the league, and a bad offense missing 3 linemen.
Jamals the best player on the team. But Sam succeeding is more important.
Hopefully Jamals up to two 1st and a 3rd for him and a 4th or 5th
You're still on this train? What do you have against keeping an elite young player?
Post by: Pope on November 18, 2019, 02:38:36 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on November 18, 2019, 03:11:55 PM
You're still on this train? What do you have against keeping an elite young player?
Outside of 3 games this season Darnold has struggled tremendously because he has no talent around him. He's getting eaten alive behind the worst offensive line in football. And our insanely overpaid running back is statistically performing as one of the worst in the league, because this OL is complete trash. And the only wideout worth anything is Crowder. The fact that Demaryius Thomas has been our second best wideout says plenty
We need to stack the offense around Sam. And Jamal is the best way to do it
Post by: dcm1602 on November 18, 2019, 03:22:09 PM
We can get far more for Jamal than we did for Revis because of his rookie contract.
If the value is there, you have to pull the trigger. Darnold is more important than all else
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 18, 2019, 04:23:37 PM
Outside of 3 games this season Darnold has struggled tremendously because he has no talent around him. He's getting eaten alive behind the worst offensive line in football. And our insanely overpaid running back is statistically performing as one of the worst in the league, because this OL is complete trash. And the only wideout worth anything is Crowder. The fact that Demaryius Thomas has been our second best wideout says plenty
We need to stack the offense around Sam. And Jamal is the best way to do it
Here's where we disagree, Jamal is not the best way to do it. We have enough draft picks to fill holes, the key is using them to draft better players than we have been. Getting rid of one of the only good players we have creates a new hole while taking a gamble at filling others. If he was old and overpaid or wanted out (like Abraham), then maybe, but not when he's in his third year and is a team leader. That's the kind of player we're trying to get, not get rid of.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 18, 2019, 04:41:11 PM
Here's where we disagree, Jamal is not the best way to do it. We have enough draft picks to fill holes, the key is using them to draft better players than we have been. Getting rid of one of the only good players we have creates a new hole while taking a gamble at filling others. If he was old and overpaid or wanted out (like Abraham), then maybe, but not when he's in his third year and is a team leader. That's the kind of player we're trying to get, not get rid of.
We need an entire OL, #1 wideout, and multiple corners desperately. We don't have the draft capital to fill that many holes. Best case scenario is we get 3 day 1 starters, and that's being optimistic
Post by: Pope on November 18, 2019, 04:47:55 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 18, 2019, 04:57:43 PM
We need an entire OL, #1 wideout, and multiple corners desperately. We don't have the draft capital to fill that many holes. Best case scenario is we get 3 day 1 starters, and that's being optimisticWe also don't necessarily need to fill every hole with an obvious answer in one offseason. That's not really realistic. We will need to sign/trade for guys like Tom Compton or Alex Lewis or Brian Poole to play roles next season.
And if you trade Jamal, then safety becomes another need. And we also would have lost an All-Pro safety who makes up for a lot of the other issues our defense has.
Now as Joe Douglas said, there is a price on every player who isn't a franchise quarterback. If someone offers two 1st-round picks with one of the picks being pretty high, you have to think about it. But we would need to get blown away to trade Adams.
Plus, it doesn't look like Adams is as unhappy as he was a few weeks ago. Amazing what winning a few games can do.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 18, 2019, 05:05:19 PM
We also don't necessarily need to fill every hole with an obvious answer in one offseason. That's not really realistic. We will need to sign/trade for guys like Tom Compton or Alex Lewis or Brian Poole to play roles next season.
And if you trade Jamal, then safety becomes another need. And we also would have lost an All-Pro safety who makes up for a lot of the other issues our defense has.
Now as Joe Douglas said, there is a price on every player who isn't a franchise quarterback. If someone offers two 1st-round picks with one of the picks being pretty high, you have to think about it. But we would need to get blown away to trade Adams.
Plus, it doesn't look like Adams is as unhappy as he was a few weeks ago. Amazing what winning a few games can do.
It's not just about filling needs. It's about putting Sam in a place for success. And the offense is horrifically bad. Losing an all pro player hurts, but letting Sam spend another season struggling for his life hurts more.
Plus we're not paying two safeties 25 million + combined
Might as well trade Adams for a bounty and extend Maye. Of course rhe price has to be right for Adams. And he's going a long way to helping us achieve that
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 18, 2019, 05:12:16 PM
It's not just about filling needs. It's about putting Sam in a place for success. And the offense is horrifically bad. Losing an all pro player hurts, but letting Sam spend another season struggling for his life hurts more.You are constantly worried about how much we will play Adams and Maye. That's a question for 2021. How many other players on this team will we need to pay big money to in 2021? Why can't we keep Adams and Maye? Every team has salary cap space. While that makes it harder to bring in top free agents, it also makes it easier to keep your own guys.
Plus we're not paying two safeties 25 million + combined
Might as well trade Adams for a bounty and extend Maye. Of course rhe price has to be right for Adams. And he's going a long way to helping us achieve that
If we were in a salary cap crunch and had a ton of young players we wanted to keep, that point would have more merit. But we don't.
The most important thing for the Jets is for the team to succeed long-term. That likely would require Sam Darnold reaching his full potential, so diverting resources to the offense is a good idea, but we are going to have four picks in the top 105, so that's a good place to start.
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 18, 2019, 05:22:16 PM
We need an entire OL, #1 wideout, and multiple corners desperately. We don't have the draft capital to fill that many holes. Best case scenario is we get 3 day 1 starters, and that's being optimistic
That's not the best case scenario, and if you trade Jamal you're down another starter, your best defensive player, creating a huge hole. You can get more than three good guys in an off season, start with the line and it makes the QB and RBs better.
Forget the #1 WR, that's the final piece of it, we don't need that right now. WRs become available all the time, because they are divas and if the rest of their team isn't clicking (like ours) they're pretty useless and become expendable. Beckham, Cooper, Gordon, how many you want to name?
Block for your QB and running game and you'll get production from the Crowders and Andersons of the world, especially if we have good TEs like it appears we do. Find me an OT, C and a CB in the draft, get our LBs back from injury and keep Jamal, the CBs won't be as exposed as they are now.
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 18, 2019, 05:26:01 PM
You are constantly worried about how much we will play Adams and Maye.
Can Maye stay on the field for a season before we worry about blowing up the team to pay him?
Post by: insanity on November 18, 2019, 07:04:59 PM
Most first round picks dont turn into probowlers let alone all pro players. If a team gives us a top 10 pick and 2 2nd rounders so be it. But replacing Jamal is too difficult to do to trade. Even if safety isnt as important as o line
Post by: dcm1602 on November 18, 2019, 08:00:07 PM
You are constantly worried about how much we will play Adams and Maye. That's a question for 2021. How many other players on this team will we need to pay big money to in 2021? Why can't we keep Adams and Maye? Every team has salary cap space. While that makes it harder to bring in top free agents, it also makes it easier to keep your own guys.
If we were in a salary cap crunch and had a ton of young players we wanted to keep, that point would have more merit. But we don't.
The most important thing for the Jets is for the team to succeed long-term. That likely would require Sam Darnold reaching his full potential, so diverting resources to the offense is a good idea, but we are going to have four picks in the top 105, so that's a good place to start.
Unless we plan on franchise tagging Maye, we extend him after this season or trade him this offseason. You don't wait for players to become UFA to extend them
And regardless you don't invest insane amount of money into safety. You wanna pay one safety big money fine, but not two
Post by: dcm1602 on November 18, 2019, 08:08:12 PM
Dcm I understand your perspective but I think your viewpoint is one that is is relevant if the trade happens but not as a possibility we should be asking for.
Most first round picks dont turn into probowlers let alone all pro players. If a team gives us a top 10 pick and 2 2nd rounders so be it. But replacing Jamal is too difficult to do to trade. Even if safety isnt as important as o line
And most QB's end up as bust.
Darnold looked like a young inexperienced franchise QB last year. This year we gave him a bunch of clowns and he looks like Sanchez.
If we're not going to surround him with quality pieces and set him up for success we might as well start hyping up whatever QB is coming out in 2025 or 26.
Robbie Anderson is freaking terrible. Demaryius Thomas is borderline crippled. Our offensive line looks like a pile of excrement held together with glue and yarn. And our 13+ million dollar running back is giving us running numbers that would embarrass most UDFA.
Darnold has absolutely nothing around him. The expectation that we're gonna trade some 7tb round picks and draft his key players in the 4th or 5th rounds is laughable.
This offense is devoid of good players. Either fix that fast or risk him becoming the Samchez
Post by: dcm1602 on November 18, 2019, 08:13:33 PM
Jalen Ramsey got 2 late 1st rounders and a 4th.
Because Adams contract situation, leadership, and age, I think he can get more than that. A mid 1st, and two 2nds for Adams and a 4th or something is the kind of value I think he can get.
Post by: MBGreen on November 18, 2019, 08:39:28 PM
And I'm not suggesting that you just give Adams away. You trade him it's because a team is desperate and is willing to give up a heaping bounty.Ramsey plays a premium position.
Jalen Ramsey got 2 late 1st rounders and a 4th.
Because Adams contract situation, leadership, and age, I think he can get more than that. A mid 1st, and two 2nds for Adams and a 4th or something is the kind of value I think he can get.
I love having Adams on this team, but I’ll admit, I do agree with some of the points you’re making. Darnold should be priority number 1.
Derek Smalls is right about one thing, this isn’t going to get fixed in one offseason regardless if they decide to trade Adams.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 18, 2019, 08:47:39 PM
Ramsey plays a premium position.
I love having Adams on this team, but I’ll admit, I do agree with some of the points you’re making. Darnold should be priority number 1.
Derek Smalls is right about one thing, this isn’t going to get fixed in one offseason regardless if they decide to trade Adams.
He does
But he's also a malcontent headcase who got into a fight with his coach and only is under contract for one more year for 14 million.
Adams on the other hand is a role model, team leader, playing for pennies next year, has a nonguarenteed 5th year option and a very affordable franchise tag after that.
I mean who knows what other teams will think. But Adams contract situation significantly adds to his value. That can't be understated enough. A win now team that's cap strapped could afford to give up assets for a stud that won't have significant cap ramifications allowing them to make other win now moves.
Post by: MBGreen on November 18, 2019, 08:54:14 PM
He doesIf someone blows Douglas away with an offer he can’t refuse...sure, then it’s good business. But I don’t think Adams should be shopped around. The guy wants to be here and is playing out of his mind. The fanbase is already on the cusp of jumping ship...why stoke that fire if you don’t have to?
But he's also a malcontent headcase who got into a fight with his coach and only is under contract for one more year for 14 million.
Adams on the other hand is a role model, team leader, playing for pennies next year, has a nonguarenteed 5th year option and a very affordable franchise tag after that.
I mean who knows what other teams will think. But Adams contract situation significantly adds to his value. That can't be understated enough. A win now team that's cap strapped could afford to give up assets for a stud that won't have significant cap ramifications allowing them to make other win now moves.
Post by: Pope on November 18, 2019, 08:54:47 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on November 18, 2019, 08:56:02 PM
If someone blows Douglas away with an offer he can’t refuse...sure, then it’s good business. But I don’t think Adams should be shopped around. The guy wants to be here and is playing out of his mind. The fanbase is already on the cusp of jumping ship...why stoke that fire if you don’t have to?
Well fortunately Adams was already shopped.
So teams will reach out and inquire. Allowing us to shop him without shopping him
And if he doesn't like it, well at least the draft is months before the season starts
Post by: dcm1602 on November 18, 2019, 09:00:15 PM
Don’t understand the fear of paying Maye and Adams. They’ll make like 25 million a year combined, MAYBE 30 million
That's 13 to 15% of the whole teams salary cap. On safety.
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 19, 2019, 03:38:13 AM
That's 13 to 15% of the whole teams salary cap. On safety.And it would be one of the most quality units in the NFL.
If we had a fantastic team and a ton of young players we had to resign, it would make sense to reallocate resources. But we dont. And if we wanted a proven player to replace Maye in FA, it probably wouldn't cost that much less.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 19, 2019, 04:51:57 AM
And it would be one of the most quality units in the NFL.
If we had a fantastic team and a ton of young players we had to resign, it would make sense to reallocate resources. But we dont. And if we wanted a proven player to replace Maye in FA, it probably wouldn't cost that much less.
Of the starting 22 positions, safety is probably near the bottom of the list as most impactful. Investing big money in one is one thing, but two, seems questionable
Post by: Pope on November 19, 2019, 08:45:29 AM
Of the starting 22 positions, safety is probably near the bottom of the list as most impactful. Investing big money in one is one thing, but two, seems questionableThe alternative is if we keep letting players go for picks and sign their replacements in free agency we’re going to get gouged for cap space anyway. Normally you try to fill these gaps in your roster with draft picks but history has shown that we’ve been dogshit at doing that.
Maye is a nice player but he won’t command a huge salary. Jamal is going to be the highest paid safety when he signs, but you hope they work some cap magic to spread out the hit.
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 19, 2019, 10:34:56 AM
Post by: mj2sexay on November 19, 2019, 10:50:05 AM
If he wants to be here, is willing to be on board for the continued rebuild and will sign on the dotted line, even if its a deal (and it will be) that guarantees he's the highest paid safety in the NFL, pay him and don't look back. You can't run your franchise thinking that you're incapable of finding the other pieces you need without sacrificing a potential cornerstone to do so. Have faith in this new regime that they can actually find talent in the mid-rounds because you have no other choice. The fact is, this is not a team that is in a position to have to worry about how they're going to hand this guy and that guy a second contract, because most of the talent level sucks. Our biggest FA coming up in the off-season is a receiver that's likely going to have to settle for a one-year prove it deal.
And if you don't have that faith in your front office to begin with, why be on board with trading a sure thing for lottery tickets if you don't think the scouting department and front office can utilize those tickets and maximize their value?
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 19, 2019, 11:16:56 AM
Post by: mj2sexay on November 19, 2019, 11:19:26 AM
It's embarrassing that a thread about this team's best player was injected with concentrated AIDS.
But I don't blame a lot of people who were ready to move on on deadline day when his team is leaking to ESPN that he'd love to play in Dallas.
He didn't handle it maturely, or well at all for that matter . He's also 24 years old so maybe he gets a mulligan. As long as the relationship can be salvaged to where we aren't offering a major investment towards someone who doesn't want to be here, by all means, keep him.
I mean if Dallas was willing to give up Zach Martin, I still think you do it. The development of the most important player on the team dictates that you make that move.
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 19, 2019, 12:03:01 PM
But I don't blame a lot of people who were ready to move on on deadline day when his team is leaking to ESPN that he'd love to play in Dallas.
He didn't handle it maturely, or well at all for that matter . He's also 24 years old so maybe he gets a mulligan. As long as the relationship can be salvaged to where we aren't offering a major investment towards someone who doesn't want to be here, by all means, keep him.
I mean if Dallas was willing to give up Zach Martin, I still think you do it. The development of the most important player on the team dictates that you make that move.
I really don't want to turn a thread dedicated to Adams into yet another "What the Jets needs are" thread.
That said, this team needs to draft multiple offensive linemen. Free agency should be used to try to get a corner and a pass-rushing threat. I think between Crowder, the tight ends, and probably bringing back Anderson, they can float on WR next year.
Obviously, if someone says "Hey, we'll give you 2 firsts, 2 seconds, and this year's third" yeah, you thank him for his service and ship Adams out.
But the idea that we should trade him because we shouldn't pay him? That's just nonsense. Who do you spend your cap money on if not your best players? Another Buster Skrine? Maybe Trumaine Johnson part 2? Or save it so we can bring the next Ryan Kalil out of retirement? I guess Nick Mangold is chillin on the couch! Come on.
Post by: Jumbo on November 19, 2019, 12:04:24 PM
Of the starting 22 positions, safety is probably near the bottom of the list as most impactful. Investing big money in one is one thing, but two, seems questionable
Jamal's impact is way more than "lul he's just a safety" and idk how people can't see that at this point.
Maye is meh though
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 19, 2019, 12:11:43 PM
1. He's 24 years old. I'm willing to bet every single one of us was still immature at 24.
2. He literally had sat with Gase and Douglas and they assured him he'd be part of the future just 2 days prior. I'd feel betrayed and upset too. That's like being assured your job is safe, then being laid off 2 weeks later.
3. The only other thing he's ever been emotional about is losing. And his intensity has clearly motivated his teammates who aren't named Trumaine.
I've said it a bunch of times, and I'll keep saying it: you build your entire team around people/players like Jamal Adams. Darnold is the key to everything by virtue of being a talented player at the most important position in sports. But you make a guy like Jamal Adams the centerpiece of your defense and the role model for everyone in all 3 phases to base their game on.
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 19, 2019, 12:30:43 PM
Jamal's impact is way more than "lul he's just a safety" and idk how people can't see that at this point.He's our best pass rusher. He's our best defensive playmaker. He's our best safety. He might be our best cornerback if we played him there.
Maye is meh though
I like Maye, but he's not good enough to trade Adams because we're worried about cap space. If Maye gets hurt this Sunday, the entire narrative around him changes.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 19, 2019, 01:48:25 PM
Jamal's impact is way more than "lul he's just a safety" and idk how people can't see that at this point.
Maye is meh though
The issue isn't Jamal, it's Darnold.
This offense is devoid of players. And we're going to help the face of our franchise with 1 maybe 2 early draft picks and a bunch of jags and castaway rejects.
Adams is elite but he's elite at a position that's not as important as most. If he was an Aaron Donald or someone named Bosa that's different. But for a safety, I'd rather gamble to help out Darnold.
And Robbie Anderson is worthless. He's a freaking gimmick player. I don't want to bring him back. Over 60% of his yards on the season came in 2 games. Otherwise he doesn't do excrement. If he wants to come back as a #4 sure he can fill a role doing that. But as a #2 I'd rather have freaking DT back
He's a track star who can catch. Get Darnold someone that can play football
Post by: Jumbo on November 19, 2019, 02:04:48 PM
The issue isn't Jamal, it's Darnold.
This offense is devoid of players. And we're going to help the face of our franchise with 1 maybe 2 early draft picks and a bunch of jags and castaway rejects.
Adams is elite but he's elite at a position that's not as important as most. If he was an Aaron Donald or someone named Bosa that's different. But for a safety, I'd rather gamble to help out Darnold.
And Robbie Anderson is worthless. He's a freaking gimmick player. I don't want to bring him back. Over 60% of his yards on the season came in 2 games. Otherwise he doesn't do excrement. If he wants to come back as a #4 sure he can fill a role doing that. But as a #2 I'd rather have freaking DT back
He's a track star who can catch. Get Darnold someone that can play football
I want to win a Super Bowl. I think you can build an elite defense around Adams, and I think you can alternately build a defense good enough to win a Super Bowl around Adams. On a team like this I don't feel comfortable parting with a guy like that. Any picks we get for Jamal in the offseason aren't going to be high in the draft most likely, and that would be the only scenario where it would even begin to make sense to move him.
I like Darnold obviously, and the team needs to build with more pieces around him for sure, but there are only two years left where he's cheap on his rookie deal after this year. It's most likely too late to pull the trading for picks gimmick in the sense of getting players who will be ready for a Super Bowl window. Darnold needs to sink or swim on his own merits, with as much help as possible, but it takes a whole team to win a Super Bowl, and moving the heart and soul All-Pro talent doesn't seem to be that type of move to me. We could build an amazing team around Darnold, but if he's not good enough, in the modern NFL it probably doesn't matter.
The right move would have been moving Quinnen if we were moving anyone on the defense for a haul anyway.
Post by: Johnny English on November 19, 2019, 02:08:15 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 19, 2019, 02:41:21 PM
I wonder if Steelers or Ravens fans think that trading Polamalu or Reed would have been a good idea if they'd been offered enough.
If the Ravens had traded Ed Reed in Flacco's second year, Flacco would still be the Ravens starting QB. Fact.
Post by: mj2sexay on November 19, 2019, 02:53:14 PM
I wonder if Steelers or Ravens fans think that trading Polamalu or Reed would have been a good idea if they'd been offered enough.
He's not either of those players yet, and in a pure hypothetical if we could've gotten a pro bowl interior lineman who's still only 28 years old the makeup and priorities of the team dictate that it's a move that couldn't be turned down. Hence why I don't blame Douglas for making that ask.
Post by: Johnny English on November 19, 2019, 07:01:28 PM
He's not either of those players yet, and in a pure hypothetical if we could've gotten a pro bowl interior lineman who's still only 28 years old the makeup and priorities of the team dictate that it's a move that couldn't be turned down. Hence why I don't blame Douglas for making that ask.
Of course. I don't think anyone wouldn't value Zack Martin over Jamal Adams for us right now. My point was more about the claim that safety is a non-premium position; I think that if you have a player who is truly elite, regardless of position a good coach can build the unit around him.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 19, 2019, 07:50:13 PM
I wonder if Steelers or Ravens fans think that trading Polamalu or Reed would have been a good idea if they'd been offered enough.
Yeah a dude with 2 career ints is Polamalu and Ed Reed. You're literally comparing two of the best of all time who played in a completely different era. Those dudes were ball hawks in an era where running the ball was far more valuable. Adams is a hard hitter and all around very good dude, but isn't special in coverage and isn't anything even close to a ballhawk. 5 of his 6 sacks come against the worst offense in years with a rookie QB and a terrible offense missing 3 starting offensive linemen.
I wonder if a team would leave Peyton Manning or Tom Brady devoid of offensive talent around them if they had a safety like Jamal Adams
Adans is one of the best safeties in the league. But people think he's freaking Jesus because he just pissed on a dumpster fire
Post by: Johnny English on November 19, 2019, 07:58:30 PM
Yeah a dude with 2 career ints is Polamalu and Ed Reed. You're literally comparing two of the best of all time who played in a completely different era. Those dudes were ball hawks in an era where running the ball was far more valuable. Adams is a hard hitter and all around very good dude, but isn't special in coverage and isn't anything even close to a ballhawk. 5 of his 6 sacks come against the worst offense in years with a rookie QB and a terrible offense missing 3 starting offensive linemen.
I wonder if a team would leave Peyton Manning or Tom Brady devoid of offensive talent around them if they had a safety like Jamal Adams
Adans is one of the best safeties in the league. But people think he's freaking Jesus because he just pissed on a dumpster fire
Congratulations on completely missing the point, as usual. BTW, Jamal Adams currently has half a sack less than Polamalu had in his career.
Post by: Libero_2 on November 19, 2019, 08:53:07 PM
Congratulations on completely missing the point, as usual. BTW, Jamal Adams currently has half a sack less than Polamalu had in his career.
Side Note: I was reading the other day that the NFL record for sacks in a season by a safety is 8. Adams has 6, with quite a few weeks to go.
I expect he ties or breaks that record before the season is up
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 19, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Lmao did you guys see this??
Post by: insanity on November 19, 2019, 09:41:01 PM
https://twitter.com/theadamsera/status/1195366501303357440?s=21(http://www.crear-meme.com/public/img/memes_users/get-this-man-a-beer.jpg)
Lmao did you guys see this??
Post by: Miamipuck on November 20, 2019, 09:56:31 AM
Congratulations on completely missing the point, as usual. BTW, Jamal Adams currently has half a sack less than Polamalu had in his career.
Peyton's first Super Bowl win came because a safety, that's right a freaking safety, got hot and was the best player on his team including Peyton that playoff year. Much like DCM's argument Peyton was a useless bag of dicks in the playoffs in 2007.
Bob Sanders a freaking safety was the team MVP and they wouldn't have won excrement without him.
Post by: Badger on November 21, 2019, 07:43:55 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 21, 2019, 11:47:43 AM
- All of the retard Jets fans
Post by: dcm1602 on November 21, 2019, 08:06:06 PM
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jamal-adams-sacks-record-defensive-back-20191121-ujrvsh7luvfuroxfu642al6lle-story.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true
This is so stupid and a perfect example of useless stats
5 of his 6 sacks came against 2 teams with shitty OLs, missing starters, with rookie QB's who have struggled
Adams is a beast on the field and one of the best safeties in the game, but the stats are misleading as freak. He had 2 games of feasting against a dumpster fire.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 21, 2019, 08:28:41 PM
This is so stupid and a perfect example of useless stats
5 of his 6 sacks came against 2 teams with shitty OLs, missing starters, with rookie QB's who have struggled
Adams is a beast on the field and one of the best safeties in the game, but the stats are misleading as freak. He had 2 games of feasting against a dumpster fire.
You forgot to mention his pick 6 off of Ryan Mallett
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 21, 2019, 09:20:03 PM
Vote or Die
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 22, 2019, 12:27:36 PM
https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1197677826369105920?s=21
Vote or Die
How is it possible he has the most votes of any defensive back? Doesn't anyone realize how non-essential the safety position is?
Post by: Pope on November 22, 2019, 02:01:22 PM
How is it possible he has the most votes of any defensive back? Doesn't anyone realize how non-essential the safety position is?Not everything has to be so black and white you know
Post by: dcm1602 on November 22, 2019, 02:15:43 PM
You forgot to mention his pick 6 off of Ryan Mallett
Of course his prowness for interceptions is undeniable he should be caught up to Ed Reed if he plays football until he's eligible for social security and keeps up this insane rate
Post by: dcm1602 on November 22, 2019, 02:25:09 PM
How is it possible he has the most votes of any defensive back? Doesn't anyone realize how non-essential the safety position is?
How does a running back have the 4th most votes of any player?
Probably because this is the Pro Bowl and it's for for freaking rejects.
Jamals one of the very best in the league at what he does. It doesn't change that the position is probably less valuable than almost every other defensive position
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 22, 2019, 02:29:27 PM
How does a running back have the 4th most votes of any player?
It doesn't change that the position is probably less valuable than almost every other defensive position
You keep saying this but it depends how you play the position. He makes it more valuable by adding other elements to his game.
Post by: d sw0rdz on November 22, 2019, 03:43:36 PM
This is so stupid and a perfect example of useless stats
5 of his 6 sacks came against 2 teams with shitty OLs, missing starters, with rookie QB's who have struggled
Adams is a beast on the field and one of the best safeties in the game, but the stats are misleading as freak. He had 2 games of feasting against a dumpster fire.
he can only eat what's in front of him.
if he had mediocre games against those teams you wouldn't be saying anything about him; you might even hold it against him. if he had bad games against those teams, you'd be talking excrement. give credit where it's due.
Post by: dcm1602 on November 22, 2019, 07:25:58 PM
he can only eat what's in front of him.
if he had mediocre games against those teams you wouldn't be saying anything about him; you might even hold it against him. if he had bad games against those teams, you'd be talking excrement. give credit where it's due.
I'm not denying he's an eliteish all pro player.
He is 100% those things.
What he's not is a DPOTY candidate
Just like Sam isn't an all pro player because he's had 3 great games against severely injured and or horrible teams
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 24, 2019, 06:58:18 PM
My President
Post by: bojanglesman on November 24, 2019, 07:22:30 PM
Post by: Badger on November 24, 2019, 07:36:18 PM
Only 0.5 sacks. Cut him.Really gonna hurt his trade value /dcm mode
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 25, 2019, 10:29:40 AM
All game long he was firing up the defense and offense.
#mypresident
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 25, 2019, 10:39:19 AM
Really gonna hurt his trade value /dcm mode
I think we're past this at this point. When the time comes, pay the man. Closest thing to LT we've had on our defense going sideline to sideline and being on the ball since I've been watching the Jets, which is a long time. Yes, LT was a LB, spare me.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 25, 2019, 08:08:29 PM
RIP Derek Carr’s brother
Post by: Johnny English on November 25, 2019, 10:13:44 PM
https://twitter.com/theadamsera/status/1198790906595311617?s=21
RIP Derek Carr’s brother
That's not a good look on Jamal. NFL players aren't going to win Twitter spats, they should stay the freak off it.
Post by: Heismanberg on November 25, 2019, 10:18:43 PM
NFL players aren't going to win Twitter spats
Jamal definitely won this one.
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 25, 2019, 10:19:58 PM
Post by: Johnny English on November 25, 2019, 10:33:18 PM
Jamal definitely won this one.
A multimillionaire mocking a high school coach isn't a good look. You can win the battle and still end up a loser.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 25, 2019, 10:34:22 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 25, 2019, 10:39:31 PM
Post by: Pope on November 26, 2019, 06:16:15 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on November 26, 2019, 07:08:04 AM
A multimillionaire mocking a high school coach isn't a good look. You can win the battle and still end up a loser.
Darren Carr has talked excrement to his brother’s opponents for years.
He is a jackass.
Post by: Johnny English on November 26, 2019, 07:13:16 AM
Darren Carr has talked excrement to his brother’s opponents for years.Which is as may be, but punching down still isn't going to reflect well on him no matter how much of a tool the other person is.
He is a jackass.
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 26, 2019, 08:54:38 AM
He told the media during his postgame that he said to Carr "Be right back."
#mypresident
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 26, 2019, 11:12:41 AM
Who cares if he gets in Twitter fights?
He told the media during his postgame that he said to Carr "Be right back."
#mypresident
This. Take the lead and be a badass on the field, that's it.
Most of the country hated Gastineau back in the day too, good.
Post by: Miamipuck on November 26, 2019, 04:39:12 PM
This. Take the lead and be a badass on the field, that's it.
Most of the country hated Gastineau back in the day too, good.
Gastineau is several levels of poopchute above Adams, AINEC. Adams is loved/liked/respected from all accounts by his teammates, Gastineau was hated, almost universally.
Post by: d sw0rdz on November 26, 2019, 06:01:34 PM
A multimillionaire mocking a high school coach isn't a good look. You can win the battle and still end up a loser.
did you see the exchange? it doesn't matter if one is rich and the other is a HS coach, the carr brother is an absolute clown. he came at jamal for no reason, and then when jamal dished him some right back, decided to play the victim card, all the while clinging to the 'I'm a HS teacher' excuse while using 'then' instead of 'than'. the absolute state of that guy
Post by: guinness77 on November 26, 2019, 06:13:40 PM
Gastineau is several levels of poopchute above Adams, AINEC. Adams is loved/liked/respected from all accounts by his teammates, Gastineau was hated, almost universally.Hell, I hated Gastineau.
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 26, 2019, 09:23:25 PM
Post by: Badger on November 26, 2019, 10:08:40 PM
https://twitter.com/JCunninghamNFL/status/1199449366676856833?s=19
Post by: CatoTheElder on November 26, 2019, 11:04:10 PM
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 27, 2019, 07:35:39 AM
Hell, I hated Gastineau.
If you see me walking down the street, get on the other side.
Post by: guinness77 on November 27, 2019, 08:07:52 AM
If you see me walking down the street, get on the other side.I’m sorry but 3rd-and-15 still pisses me off. I was more of a Klecko guy.
Post by: MBGreen on November 27, 2019, 08:41:33 AM
Hell, I hated Gastineau.
Is his daughter still workin' the corner?
Post by: ScotlandJet on November 27, 2019, 09:58:44 AM
Gastineau is several levels of poopchute above Adams, AINEC. Adams is loved/liked/respected from all accounts by his teammates, Gastineau was hated, almost universally.
You see, I always loved Gastineau because of skills on the field.
Back in the day I was limited to delayed highlights and never got to know of some his exploits off the field and the fact that he would have eaten himself if he was chocolate. He was part a great team in an era that will always be special to me.
Stories of him being unpopular with his team mates were exagerated but I recall a play off game against KC when the great Bob Trumpy who was calling the game with another great Don Crqui couldn't resist pointing out Mark sitting on his own on the sidlines;
"There's is Mark Gastineau sitting with his buddies...."
Post by: klaximilian on November 27, 2019, 10:23:56 AM
I'm with d Swordz on this. Douchebag had it coming
Im in the same boat. Carr threw the first punch. Jamal finished it quickly with a haymaker.
Then told the "teacher" to brush up on his grammar. LOL. My Prez.
Post by: Johnny English on November 27, 2019, 10:27:53 AM
Im in the same boat. Carr threw the first punch. Jamal finished it quickly with a haymaker.Regardless of whether he deserved it, punching down is not a good look.
Then told the "teacher" to brush up on his grammar. LOL. My Prez.
If I were the emperor of the NFL I'd go full Lou Lamoriello and insert strict social media clauses into all contract language.
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 27, 2019, 11:25:06 AM
You see, I always loved Gastineau because of skills on the field.
Back in the day I was limited to delayed highlights and never got to know of some his exploits off the field and the fact that he would have eaten himself if he was chocolate. He was part a great team in an era that will always be special to me.
Stories of him being unpopular with his team mates were exagerated but I recall a play off game against KC when the great Bob Trumpy who was calling the game with another great Don Crqui couldn't resist pointing out Mark sitting on his own on the sidlines;
"There's is Mark Gastineau sitting with his buddies...."
This might be the ultimate Gastineau moment to sum it all up. Closest thing we ever had to pro wrestling on the Jets:
Gastineau-Slater fight, Sep 1983 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTJ4l4JoCjs)
Post by: Miamipuck on November 27, 2019, 11:53:27 AM
I’m sorry but 3rd-and-15 still pisses me off. I was more of a Klecko guy.
I didn't hate Gastineau that much but Klecko was every bit as good, if not better, and wasn't an poopchute.
Post by: Miamipuck on November 27, 2019, 11:56:46 AM
You see, I always loved Gastineau because of skills on the field.
Back in the day I was limited to delayed highlights and never got to know of some his exploits off the field and the fact that he would have eaten himself if he was chocolate. He was part a great team in an era that will always be special to me.
Stories of him being unpopular with his team mates were exagerated but I recall a play off game against KC when the great Bob Trumpy who was calling the game with another great Don Crqui couldn't resist pointing out Mark sitting on his own on the sidlines;
"There's is Mark Gastineau sitting with his buddies...."
That was a front 4 for sure. Klecko could play anywhere on the line and be all pro, Gastineau, then Lyons and Salam. It would be fun to have a front like that again. Gastineau if he wasn't such an poopchute would have been a star.
Post by: AlioTheFool on November 27, 2019, 12:54:51 PM
Anyway,
https://twitter.com/JCunninghamNFL/status/1199449366676856833?s=19
#godking
Nothing but a glorified box safety.
--actual non-Jets-fan tweet I saw recently
Post by: MBGreen on December 01, 2019, 03:48:13 PM
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Jamal Adams juSt walked into the #Jets locker room with a walking boot on his left foot. Wow
of course
Post by: bojanglesman on December 01, 2019, 03:49:15 PM
Does it matter now?
of course
Post by: Derek Smalls on December 01, 2019, 03:52:14 PM
Jamal Adams leaves locker room with a walking boot on his left foot. In tears, he tells reporters he was hurt on first series, stayed in, but was ineffective. Never saw him this distraught. #Jets
Well, excrement.
Post by: Rosetta Stoned on December 01, 2019, 04:07:31 PM
Post by: MBGreen on December 01, 2019, 04:08:59 PM
How is it freaking possible that half of this team is injured? Did they fire every trainer along with Duff?
this is one of the perks Gase brought with him from Miami.
Post by: dcm1602 on December 01, 2019, 05:35:00 PM
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 01, 2019, 05:55:24 PM
Dudes understandably upset this is how his career as a jet ends
GTFO
Post by: Libero_2 on December 01, 2019, 07:24:04 PM
Dudes understandably upset this is how his career as a jet ends
The only way that is true is if that foot is getting amputated
Post by: dcm1602 on December 01, 2019, 09:28:56 PM
The only way that is true is if that foot is getting amputated
Or he gets traded
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 01, 2019, 09:40:03 PM
Or he gets traded
They're not trading him.
They're not firing Gase.
They told you this already.
Post by: dcm1602 on December 01, 2019, 09:57:03 PM
They're not trading him.
They're not firing Gase.
They told you this already.
They said they weren't firing Gase.
They also said that the team will listen to offers for anybody on this team except Williams and Darnold
They might not shop him, but they'll certainly listen to offers
Post by: mj2sexay on December 02, 2019, 09:11:43 AM
Marcus Maye has been absolute freaking garbage for the better part of the last month and a half.
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 02, 2019, 11:23:28 AM
One could make a case that he didn't help by being in, but there isn't anyone on the roster who would've played better in his place.
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 02, 2019, 11:39:57 AM
For those who want to make the position depth argument in terms of trading Jamal.
Marcus Maye has been absolute freaking garbage for the better part of the last month and a half.
There's only one person making that case. The idea is to keep and add good players, especially young ones, not to get rid of them.
Post by: MBGreen on December 02, 2019, 01:26:06 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 02, 2019, 01:32:34 PM
Post by: insanity on December 02, 2019, 02:33:37 PM
For those who want to make the position depth argument in terms of trading Jamal.
Marcus Maye has been absolute freaking garbage for the better part of the last month and a half.
Is that based on the one missed tackle he had last week?
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 02, 2019, 04:42:40 PM
For those who want to make the position depth argument in terms of trading Jamal.
Marcus Maye has been absolute freaking garbage for the better part of the last month and a half.
False.
Post by: mj2sexay on December 02, 2019, 05:07:50 PM
False.
Aside from the Raiders game, whats false about it? He was horrible yesterday, mediocre against the Redskins and was torched by the Giants.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 02, 2019, 07:26:04 PM
Dudes understandably upset this is how his career as a jet ends
You have a reputation for good reason
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 17, 2019, 07:45:31 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 29, 2019, 05:06:55 PM
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Great win to close out 2019! Crazy season full of ups & downs but time to regroup, get healthy, & focus on making the next season the one we breakthrough. Jets fans, thank you for all your support. Things have been frustrating but we will bring you what you deserve. #Prez
Still President
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 30, 2019, 01:40:31 PM
Post by: MBGreen on December 30, 2019, 01:50:13 PM
Jamal Adams bought the entire team a pair of Jordan’s #Jets#legend
Post by: insanity on December 30, 2019, 01:53:59 PM
Jamal Adams bought the entire team a pair of Jordan’s #JetsYou mean his sponsor jordan gave the team a pair of jordans...
Post by: Libero_2 on December 30, 2019, 01:55:00 PM
You mean his sponsor jordan gave the team a pair of jordans...
Does Jordan sponsor football players? I assumed they only did basketball/NBA guys
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 30, 2019, 07:10:49 PM
Does Jordan sponsor football players? I assumed they only did basketball/NBA guys
Jordan sells football apparel so I assume they would sponsor football players as well.
Post by: dcm1602 on December 30, 2019, 07:15:53 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 31, 2019, 08:42:08 AM
I figured he got everyone the same model of shoe. Prez is a freaking real one
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 31, 2019, 08:42:30 AM
“I was just finna get these”
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 31, 2019, 08:44:06 AM
I just find it incredible most of the people who buy Jordans have never seen the dude play in before
Most of the people that have never seen Jordan play buy Lebron or Kyries shitty shoes instead
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 31, 2019, 08:45:12 AM
Does Jordan sponsor football players? I assumed they only did basketball/NBA guys
Jamal is sponsored by Jordan
They sponsor a couple college football teams too- Michigan, UNC, OU, UF
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 31, 2019, 09:09:09 AM
Most of the people that have never seen Jordan play buy Lebron or Kyries shitty shoes instead
I still won't buy anything with the Jordan logo.
Post by: insanity on December 31, 2019, 09:22:59 AM
I still won't buy anything with the Jordan logo.
50 year old white guys with hanging jet earrings arent the target demo
Post by: Johnny English on December 31, 2019, 09:26:16 AM
50 year old white guys with hanging jet earrings arent the target demo
I feel like Nike are missing a whole market opportunity here. Orthopaedic Jordans could be the next big thing to be seen in at the Sunrise Senior Living dining room.
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 31, 2019, 09:36:26 AM
50 year old white guys with hanging jet earrings arent the target demo
I was about 22 when he came out with that excrement and have played competitive basketball all this time. That's a lot of shoes. I'm thinking Jordan is still doing ok though.
Post by: MBGreen on December 31, 2019, 09:51:00 AM
I still won't buy anything with the Jordan logo.
Jimmy loves Italian Seafood
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Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 31, 2019, 10:06:50 AM
I was about 22 when he came out with that excrement and have played competitive basketball all this time. That's a lot of shoes. I'm thinking Jordan is still doing ok though.
You don’t... you don’t play pickup basketball in $200 retro Jordan shoes. Or maybe you do. Idk.
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 31, 2019, 10:31:46 AM
You don’t... you don’t play pickup basketball in $200 retro Jordan shoes. Or maybe you do. Idk.
Never paid that much for shoes and never Jordans, no. I play in a league, still some pickup but not much.
Post by: Miamipuck on December 31, 2019, 11:42:58 AM
50 year old white guys with hanging jet earrings arent the target demo
Jesus that's freaking awesome....... 4.895 honks
Post by: Miamipuck on December 31, 2019, 11:45:40 AM
I feel like Nike are missing a whole market opportunity here. Orthopaedic Jordans could be the next big thing to be seen in at the Sunrise Senior Living dining room.
If you can somehow work a bong into the sole, IS would be all over that like a pair of Rex's skid marked undies.
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 31, 2019, 11:49:22 AM
If you can somehow work a bong into the sole, IS would be all over that like a pair of Rex's skid marked undies.
Smoke after the games. It's how I've lasted so long.
Post by: CatoTheElder on December 31, 2019, 12:19:34 PM
Robbie lmaooo
“I was just finna get these”
Really going to miss this dude.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 31, 2019, 09:44:43 PM
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Jamal Adams coverage ranks (among 39 safeties w/30+ targets):
Yards after catch per reception: 1st (2.9)
Yards per reception: 2nd (7.5)
Yards per target: 2nd (4.5)
Yards per cover snap: 2nd (0.31)
Just a safety. Luxury player.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 01, 2020, 09:19:11 AM
The audacity of this man
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 01, 2020, 09:20:23 AM
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Jamal Adams does it all
(ranks among safeties)
coverage:
- 2.9 YAC/reception (1st)
- 4.5 yds/target (2nd)
pass rush:
- 6.5 sacks (1st)
- 23 pressures (1st)
run defense:
- missed on just 3% (1/36) of tackle chances (2nd)
- 7 tackles for loss (3rd)
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 01, 2020, 11:52:53 AM
Post by: guinness77 on January 01, 2020, 12:44:23 PM
Post by: insanity on January 02, 2020, 09:49:38 AM
Never paid that much for shoes and never Jordans, no. I play in a league, still some pickup but not much.I think his point was that people don't buy Jordans to play in. Although they are a basketball sneaker they are more of a shoe for fashion and "the culture". While Jordans were the pinnacle for shoes back in the day my experience wearing them (2002+) was that they were always super heavy and never the greatest.
Post by: Italian Seafood on January 02, 2020, 10:43:38 AM
I think his point was that people don't buy Jordans to play in. Although they are a basketball sneaker they are more of a shoe for fashion and "the culture". While Jordans were the pinnacle for shoes back in the day my experience wearing them (2002+) was that they were always super heavy and never the greatest.
I got you. I probably missed that because I've never owned a pair, I'm a loyal Knicks fan to a fault. If Tom Brady comes out with a line of vaginal wipes or something I'll suggest my daughters buy a different brand.
Post by: Johnny English on January 03, 2020, 11:35:41 AM
Post by: Johnny English on January 03, 2020, 11:44:25 AM
Pay the man.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 03, 2020, 12:47:46 PM
Also, the Bears just extended Eddie Jackson to the tune of $14.6M per year for 4 years. So there's Jamal's market.
Pay the man.
No dcm said you can’t extend a player while he still has years left on his contract
Post by: bojanglesman on January 03, 2020, 01:56:57 PM
No dcm said you can’t extend a player while he still has years left on his contractDcmbot
Post by: mj2sexay on January 03, 2020, 02:27:13 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on January 03, 2020, 05:55:07 PM
No dcm said you can’t extend a player while he still has years left on his contract
He's in the final year of his contract
Jamal's under team control for the next 3 seasons as the tag makes a lot of sense for him
They're not even remotely comparable
Post by: Johnny English on January 04, 2020, 12:23:22 AM
He's in the final year of his contractEddie Jackson was drafted two days after Jamal.
Jamal's under team control for the next 3 seasons as the tag makes a lot of sense for him
They're not even remotely comparable
Post by: dcm1602 on January 04, 2020, 02:16:11 AM
Eddie Jackson was drafted two days after Jamal.
Which means he doesn't get the 5th year rookie option on his contract
Not to mention his APY is more than the franchise tag for safeties. So I imagine the bears got some very friendly contract language in there.
Regardless he's a year less than Jamal contractually and the tag is always an option
I'm not suggesting the team trys to screw Jamal, but he's under team control for 3 more seasons
And before I hear excrement about how he's a professional, all pro, leader etc etc. Let me know how things worked out with Revis and Wilkerson who both were home grown All-Pro players who ended up crippling this franchise by being horrendous contracts for the team
Post by: bojanglesman on January 04, 2020, 07:19:52 AM
Which means he doesn't get the 5th year rookie option on his contractPlease don't mention Revis. We don't need another essay contest in this thread.
Not to mention his APY is more than the franchise tag for safeties. So I imagine the bears got some very friendly contract language in there.
Regardless he's a year less than Jamal contractually and the tag is always an option
I'm not suggesting the team trys to screw Jamal, but he's under team control for 3 more seasons
And before I hear excrement about how he's a professional, all pro, leader etc etc. Let me know how things worked out with Revis and Wilkerson who both were home grown All-Pro players who ended up crippling this franchise by being horrendous contracts for the team
Post by: Coach K on January 04, 2020, 08:37:31 AM
lol at the mere thought that trading a first team All Pro, team voted MVP and team Captain in his prime is how you build for sustained success
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 04, 2020, 09:24:37 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on January 04, 2020, 09:36:07 AM
“He’s really good, let’s get rid of him!”Only way I could see the Jets trading him is if Jamal has ridiculous contract demands just to get off of this team and becomes a nuisance. I don't think he will. I'm sure he'll be a bit snarky at times, he's a hothead. The Jets will have to overpay because they suck, but I think they'll do it. They may not get to an agreement this year, but probably next. They should at worst offer to make him the highest paid safety in the league. If he doesn't take it, I'd be fine if the Jets wait. It's a delicate balance between the Jets risking having to pay more in the future vs. Jamal risking injury or something else derailing his value.
Post by: Rosetta Stoned on January 04, 2020, 02:37:16 PM
And before I hear excrement about how he's a professional, all pro, leader etc etc. Let me know how things worked out with Revis and Wilkerson who both were home grown All-Pro players who ended up crippling this franchise by being horrendous contracts for the team
How did Revis' contract cripple the team? Tanny worked his magic back in '10, and we got rid of him before he even became a problem. Wilkerson on the other hand, broke his leg and then phoned it in once he got his money. I don't see how Jamal is any way comparable as it's unlikely he will fall off a cliff like with Revis between '15 and '16 or has demonstrated any of the POS attitude traits that Wilkerson did.
It's a freaking apples to oranges comparison.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 08, 2020, 06:26:24 AM
Post by: loyaljetsfan on January 08, 2020, 10:16:59 AM
im just going to repeat this over and over
lol at the mere thought that trading a first team All Pro, team voted MVP and team Captain in his prime is how you build for sustained success
That's the mindset winning organizations follow.
We're the Jets and we have a complete assclown as HC who probably can't handle Jamal's alpha personality. I think it's a foregone conclusion he's gone.
Post by: MexJetinBcn on January 08, 2020, 01:07:35 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 08, 2020, 09:40:19 PM
This feels pure
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 09, 2020, 04:09:50 PM
https://twitter.com/theadamsera/status/1214985835419975680?s=21
This feels pure
"And then lead with your helmet."
Post by: Derek Smalls on January 16, 2020, 08:16:34 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 16, 2020, 10:15:38 PM
Looks like he changed his Twitter handle to just "Prez"
Big Upgrade from @TheAdamsEra
Post by: Derek Smalls on January 16, 2020, 10:41:50 PM
Big Upgrade from @TheAdamsEraI'm pretty sure that was just him following Tyrann Mathieu's lead. Another LSU safety, one of his friends and mentors. He's @Mathieu_Era
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 18, 2020, 03:33:41 PM
Post by: d sw0rdz on January 18, 2020, 06:03:03 PM
https://twitter.com/prez/status/1218616560870359044?s=21
i still remember when JR Smith tried to holla at Rihanna when he was on the knicks via twitter, and she responded that he was a 'desert thirsty nigga'
still think it goes down as one of the most underrated burns in history imo
Post by: Italian Seafood on January 18, 2020, 06:41:55 PM
i still remember when JR Smith tried to holla at Rihanna when he was on the knicks via twitter, and she responded that he was a 'desert thirsty nigga'
still think it goes down as one of the most underrated burns in history imo
LOL I don't remember that.
Post by: Heismanberg on January 18, 2020, 07:24:45 PM
i still remember when JR Smith tried to holla at Rihanna when he was on the knicks via twitter, and she responded that he was a 'desert thirsty nigga'
still think it goes down as one of the most underrated burns in history imo
Wasn’t she with JR for a while?
Post by: d sw0rdz on January 18, 2020, 09:19:39 PM
Wasn’t she with JR for a while?
i don't think so. JR was with some other larger booty female for a while and posted her derriere nude on twitter, and got in trouble for it from david stern/the nba. some time after that was over, he shot his shot with rihanna
i forgot what the other girl's name was, but she'd been around. i think she got famous from being with fabolous
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 19, 2020, 09:29:09 AM
Post by: MBGreen on January 20, 2020, 07:57:50 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 20, 2020, 11:24:49 AM
Rhianna is a gutter rat.
....dcm mode?
Post by: MBGreen on January 20, 2020, 12:20:40 PM
....dcm mode?
nah
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 23, 2020, 02:39:43 PM
Post by: Italian Seafood on January 26, 2020, 06:04:50 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 29, 2020, 03:14:55 PM
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Jamal Adams says the #Jets have begun contract extension talks with his reps, and sounds very confident something will get done.
LETS GOOOOOOO
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 29, 2020, 03:15:52 PM
Post by: Italian Seafood on January 29, 2020, 03:38:33 PM
Post by: mj2sexay on January 29, 2020, 03:45:11 PM
LETS GOOOOOOO
But I thought Gase (despite being effusive in his praise of the player at every possible turn), was trying to drive him out of town? z
Post by: bojanglesman on January 29, 2020, 04:09:28 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 29, 2020, 04:13:22 PM
But I thought Gase (despite being effusive in his praise of the player at every possible turn), was trying to drive him out of town? z
Jamal works for Secretary of Defense Gregggggg G Williams
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 29, 2020, 04:13:36 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 29, 2020, 04:34:49 PM
LETS GOOOOOOO
Hell Yeah!
Post by: AlioTheFool on January 29, 2020, 04:36:15 PM
But I thought Gase (despite being effusive in his praise of the player at every possible turn), was trying to drive him out of town? z
Me too.
Weird that GM Adam Gase would try to extend him, right?
Post by: Heismanberg on January 29, 2020, 05:28:36 PM
Weird that GM Adam Gase would try to extend him, right?
Weirder than when GM Joe Douglas listened to offers for him during the trade deadline?
But lets's blame Adam Gase for Jamal Adams being upset with the Jets for a day or two.
Post by: MBGreen on January 29, 2020, 05:40:45 PM
Weirder than when GM Joe Douglas listened to offers for him during the trade deadline?I blame the oline
But lets's blame Adam Gase for Jamal Adams being upset with the Jets for a day or two.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 29, 2020, 06:14:57 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 29, 2020, 06:20:59 PM
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Just to clear this up... we’ve had small discussions thus far, not in detailed talks yet, just talked about it. With that being said, I fully expect to be extended this offseason. I want to be in New York!
Extend Joe Douglas
Post by: dcm1602 on January 30, 2020, 04:03:09 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on January 30, 2020, 06:07:02 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 30, 2020, 06:34:16 AM
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Post by: MBGreen on January 30, 2020, 08:32:07 AM
To me this sounds like nonsense. Probably trying to lay down some public perception to make it seen surprising if he doesn't get extended
Did you eat paint chips as a kid?
hahahaha
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 10, 2020, 11:45:02 AM
Campaign SZN
Post by: d sw0rdz on February 10, 2020, 03:39:45 PM
Post by: reuben on February 14, 2020, 07:59:52 PM
Post by: MexJetinBcn on February 17, 2020, 04:52:41 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on February 25, 2020, 11:51:22 AM
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Joe Douglas: “The plan is for Jamal (Adams) to be a Jet for life.” He says they’ve had preliminary discussions on a new contract. He wouldn’t elaborate. #Jets
Extend Joe Douglas
Post by: loyaljetsfan on February 25, 2020, 12:18:09 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 03, 2020, 06:57:55 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 04, 2020, 01:36:36 PM
https://twitter.com/prez/status/1234995326286614528?s=21
We should invite him to the next tailgate
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 14, 2020, 11:51:23 AM
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Yooo nobody cares if you thinking about deleting any of your social media apps. Shut up lol
Post by: Jumbo on March 18, 2020, 04:58:32 PM
lmao
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 18, 2020, 05:23:27 PM
https://twitter.com/shonrp2/status/1240372232049831936?s=21
lmao
Nice.
Post by: insanity on March 20, 2020, 05:43:20 PM
https://beargoggleson.com/2020/03/20/chicago-bears-rumors-trade-jamal-adams/amp/1/
Post by: Derek Smalls on March 20, 2020, 06:07:18 PM
This is good for a laughI clicked on that expecting bad trade offers, and the trade offers were worse than I ever thought. And each offer kept getting worse. The last one was the kicker. A 2020 2nd-round pick and a 2021 4th-round pick. Can't even give us a 2020 4th-round pick? Gotta defer that to 2021?
https://beargoggleson.com/2020/03/20/chicago-bears-rumors-trade-jamal-adams/amp/1/
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 20, 2020, 06:37:59 PM
Post by: Pope on March 20, 2020, 08:06:15 PM
Post by: dcm1602 on March 20, 2020, 08:38:58 PM
He somehow thinks Adams has no value because he's in the last year of his contract.
He's on the 4th year of a rookie deal with a 5th year option and very affordable tag after that