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The Rest Of The Sports World => You Don't Know Football => Topic started by: MBGreen on December 21, 2015, 03:16:48 PM
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Andrew Siciliano @AndrewSiciliano 2m2 minutes ago
Chargers RB Melvin Gordon goes on injured reserve. Season ends without a TD from srimmage in 201 touches.
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Not really lol. Probably just belongs in the injury thread
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Just another Wisconsin back failing in the pros
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Not really lol. Probably just belongs in the injury thread
The injury isnt funny...his failure to produce is.
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I refuse to laugh at the Chargers right now. I have nothing against them and it must freaking suck to be a Chargers fan at the moment.
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Johnny English delenda est
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Chargers proposed to Joey Bosa what they made clear is their best offer, source says. It was declined. Offer pulled. Two sides are nowhere.
Seems like missing a wide open layup 3-4 times in a row.
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Nevermind, didn't see there was already a lol-related Chargers thread. Delete please.
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i'll let it linger for a few more mins to shame you.
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Chargers proposed to Joey Bosa what they made clear is their best offer, source says. It was declined. Offer pulled. Two sides are nowhere.
Seems like missing a wide open layup 3-4 times in a row.
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i'll let it linger for a few more mins to shame you.
See who comments first, thread Nazis or Puck.
I may need to make a third one. San Dieglol Chargers?
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See who comments first, thread Nazis or Puck.
I may need to make a third one. San Dieglol Chargers?
Chargerslol delenda est
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This entire saga is freaking stupid. The Chargers are refusing to pay Bosa his entire signing bonus up front and Bosa is refusing to take anything less than the entire bonus.
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Chargerslol delenda est
Lol
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#Chargers statement: “As a result, we will restructure our offer since Joey will be unable to contribute for the full 16 game season…” Wow.
Chargerslol ain't playin'.
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That's a point, Captain Ahab hasn't been around for a while. Anyone heard from him recently?
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I figured Bo would want another one to snuggle with.
Chargers proposed to Joey Bosa what they made clear is their best offer, source says. It was declined. Offer pulled. Two sides are nowhere.
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Rights to Bosa for Geno Smith, straight up.
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Rights to Bosa for Geno Smith, straight up.
That's great value.
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More punchable face:
Paxton Lynch
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChLUSLuUkAApl2e.jpg)
Joey Bosa
(http://www.profootballrumors.com/files/2016/08/vertJoey-Bosa.jpg)
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They should be freaking embarrassed.
This guys the 3rd overall pick in the draft and they're completely souring their relationship with him before he's even on tbe team over freaking nonsense offsets and bullshit like they basically completely ruined his rookie season over this excrement. Despite the fact that the values of his contract are already set in stone.
Truly an idiotic franchise, they might as well freaking shop the rights to him at this point
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Rights to Bosa for Geno Smith, straight up.
Bosa doesn't have as much game experience as Geno. Veto.
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They should be freaking embarrassed.
This guys the 3rd overall pick in the draft and they're completely souring their relationship with him before he's even on tbe team over freaking nonsense offsets and bullshit like they basically completely ruined his rookie season over this excrement. Despite the fact that the values of his contract are already set in stone.
Truly an idiotic franchise, they might as well freaking shop the rights to him at this point
There's so much you don't know about rookie contracts...... Both sides have blame. Obviously the total value of the contract isn't up for negotiation. It's all the "offsets and bullshit" that is negotiable. Hell, the Jets didn't exactly brerak a land speed record getting Darron Lee's deal done. This is just a shitty situation for the Charger fans.
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There's so much you don't know about rookie contracts...... Both sides have blame. Obviously the total value of the contract isn't up for negotiation. It's all the "offsets and bullshit" that is negotiable. Hell, the Jets didn't exactly brerak a land speed record getting Darron Lee's deal done. This is just a shitty situation for the Charger fans.
One thing I'll say in favor of the rookies who take so long to sign these deals: I agree with them holding out for every possible guaranteed penny.
We all know how short a career can be. These kids haven't yet made any money, can't negotiate for a massive rookie deal anymore, and could get hurt at any time and it could all be over.
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One thing I'll say in favor of the rookies who take so long to sign these deals: I agree with them holding out for every possible guaranteed penny.
We all know how short a career can be. These kids haven't yet made any money, can't negotiate for a massive rookie deal anymore, and could get hurt at any time and it could all be over.
Fair enough, but when it gets to the point of affecting your rookie season on the field because you haven't been there, you have to make some tough decisions.
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There's so much you don't know about rookie contracts...... Both sides have blame. Obviously the total value of the contract isn't up for negotiation. It's all the "offsets and bullshit" that is negotiable. Hell, the Jets didn't exactly brerak a land speed record getting Darron Lee's deal done. This is just a shitty situation for the Charger fans.
Both sides get blame buy it's the franchise getting ducked the hardest.
They're now in an extremely shitty place with one of their most valuable young players over the way they wanted to structure his signing bonus with deferred money.
I completely understand the offset language since almost every team had that but the broken up signing bonus was the problem.
I tried googling how many teams do that, but had no luck
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Both sides get blame buy it's the franchise getting ducked the hardest.
They're now in an extremely shitty place with one of their most valuable young players over the way they wanted to structure his signing bonus with deferred money.
I completely understand the offset language since almost every team had that but the broken up signing bonus was the problem.
I tried googling how many teams do that, but had no luck
I wonder where Bosa will get drafted next year if he holds out and plays nowhere....it won't be top 3. He'll lose a lot of money. More than he's arguing over now. Both sides have a lot to lose.
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Apparently now the Chargers are threatening to pay him less now because he's going to miss game time this season too
And the deadline passed so they're not even allowed to trade him anymore.
He either signs or goes into next year's draft
And true he will lose a chunk of change. I wouldn't even know where to speculate him getting drafted
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If I'm him I happily lose money now to freak the chargers. Hopefully the raiders draft him and he becomes a legend. freak the chargers
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So what's the date for him to sign a deal or get sent back to the draft next year? Sometime in January right?
But in all seriousness, what team would risk a high pick on him if he won't sign a deal? Hell yes not becoming a charger he will leave money on the table as a non-top 3 pick in a future draft class, even if his new team fully guarantees his entire deal
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So what's the date for him to sign a deal or get sent back to the draft next year? Sometime in January right?
But in all seriousness, what team would risk a high pick on him if he won't sign a deal? Hell yes not becoming a charger he will leave money on the table as a non-top 3 pick in a future draft class, even if his new team fully guarantees his entire deal
The Pats would take him.
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If I'm him I happily lose money now to freak the chargers. Hopefully the raiders draft him and he becomes a legend. freak the chargers
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I don't know if I'd be willing to risk millions of dollars over it. Maybe a couple hundred grand, I don't know. He has no way of knowing anything about his future if he waits. What happens if he gets hurt? I guess he can get insurance for that.
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It's easy to say I'd give up millions to prove a point, because I'm poor and don't have millions.
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If he went from 3rd overall to anywhere from 15-32 he would lose around 16 million dollars , which is well over 60% of his contract
And considering that now hes going to miss game time, the Chargers got him by the balls
Id ultimately guess that the chargers wont dock him for any games missed though
http://www.ibtimes.com/nfl-draft-2016-contracts-projected-salaries-all-first-round-picks-2361279
Of course theyre also getting fucked because they could lose an extremely valuable pick
At least Bosa can make back a freak ton of cash if he lands in a better situation where he can get a monster payday on a future contract
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No idea who the source is but clearly makes the Chargers look bad
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/24/bosa-moved-on-deferral-issue-but-not-enough-for-the-chargers/
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And this
Statement from Joey Bosa’s Representatives
[Editor’s note: CAA, the firm that represents Chargers defensive end Joey Bosa, issued a statement on Wednesday night in response to a statement issued and comments made by the team on Wednesday.]
It is unfortunate the San Diego Chargers have decided to manipulate facts and negotiate in the media. The team surely is not strengthening its relationship with Joey Bosa by taking this stance and making their position public.
We have decided that we will not engage in public negotiations or discuss numbers and/or terms in this negotiation.
We will say, that it is ironic that the team now takes issue with the timing of Joey’s arrival, since the Chargers unilaterally decided to remain silent for the first 14 days of training camp instead of replying in a timely fashion to the proposal we made on the eve of training camp on July 28th.
At this point, all we can do is continue to fight for a fair contract on behalf of our client, as we do for all of our clients. The Chargers can focus on trying to sway public opinion, but our focus will remain on our client and securing a contract for him that is fair and consistent with his draft position.
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If I'm in that position it's hard to give up the money now but if I'm thinking about having a long career with a huge second and maybe 3rd deal I don't think the chargers are the place to get that done.
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If I'm in that position it's hard to give up the money now but if I'm thinking about having a long career with a huge second and maybe 3rd deal I don't think the chargers are the place to get that done.
On the flip side it gets him a second contract one year sooner
Not to mention having a powerhouse QB puts you in a position to get lots of sacks
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On the flip side it gets him a second contract one year sooner
Not to mention having a powerhouse QB puts you in a position to get lots of sacks
Chargers have a shitty reputation all around. There is stuff to worry about over the next few years like will they give him the right/best treatment when he gets banged up. Other quality of life excrement I'm sure we aren't aware of.
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Chargers have a shitty reputation all around. There is stuff to worry about over the next few years like will they give him the right/best treatment when he gets banged up. Other quality of life excrement I'm sure we aren't aware of.
Someone on Twitter (maybe an ESPN personality, I don't remember) made the point that the Chargers are currently trying to sway public opinion on a new stadium as well and that both the Bosa thing and that are related.
I actually just looked up news about their stadium plans. Seems the latest poll shows only 25% voter support--with 52% strongly or somewhat opposed to it.
Of the respondents in the YouGov poll, 34% identified themselves as Chargers fans. Of those Chargers fans, 48% strongly or somewhat supported the measure and 30% strongly or somewhat opposed it.
Overall, the YouGov poll found stronger feelings among those who oppose it. Data showed that 41% strongly opposed it and 11% somewhat opposed it, compared to 13% who strongly supported it and 12% percent who somewhat supported it.
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If the Spanos family proposed a crisp hundred dollar bill to be presented to each ticket holder upon entry and free beer for the duration of the game they would still struggle to get approval from a majority of the Chargers' fanbase.
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Response from Team Bosa:
Official Statement from Joey Bosa's representatives:
It is unfortunate the San Diego Chargers have decided to manipulate facts and negotiate in the media. The team surely is not strengthening its relationship with Joey Bosa by taking this stance and making their position public.
We have decided that we will not engage in public negotiations or discuss numbers and/or terms in this negotiation.
We will say, that it is ironic that the team now takes issue with the timing of Joey’s arrival, since the Chargers unilaterally decided to remain silent for the first 14 days of training camp instead of replying in a timely fashion to the proposal we made on the eve of training camp on July 28th.
At this point, all we can do is continue to fight for a fair contract on behalf of our client, as we do for all of our clients. The Chargers can focus on trying to sway public opinion, but our focus will remain on our client and securing a contract for him that is fair and consistent with his draft position.
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Joey Bosa caved. Signed a 4 yr deal
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There's a lot of supposition here, but I would freaking love to see this happen. Spanos would have to sell to someone new though, but San Diego is a brilliant city that really should have its football team.
http://thebiglead.com/2017/09/21/don-banks-nfl-is-talking-about-forcing-chargers-back-to-san-diego/
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That article was a little bit too bleacher report for my tastes, meh.
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20799606/los-angeles-chargers-reached-free-agent-cb-darrelle-revis
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20799606/los-angeles-chargers-reached-free-agent-cb-darrelle-revis
I had assumed he was done. I can see a team with horrible corners taking a chance on him. Especially at the league minimum. I think the Jets will get that tiny bit of salary back as an offset. Not that it matters much when we'll have $76 million in cap space.
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I had assumed he was done. I can see a team with horrible corners taking a chance on him. Especially at the league minimum. I think the Jets will get that tiny bit of salary back as an offset. Not that it matters much when we'll have $76 million in cap space.
he'll probably come back and play well.
#SameOldJets
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he'll probably come back and play well.
#SameOldJets
If they put him in zone or on slower receivers instead of forcing him to be a number 1 guy, he'll probably do fine. And since they'd be paying him peanuts (not $16 million like we were) it makes sense to do so. If he's still in shape he'd make sense somewhere. And it would give him a last chance to show he has some value still for 2018 (or not).
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Chargers are going to be without their left tackle for at least the first six weeks of the season and will be starting a 2018 UDFA in his place. Already without Derwin James and possibly Melvin Gordon, they could regress sharply this year.
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Chargers fire OC Whisenhunt
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Chargers confirm that Rivers will not be returning and will be a free agent.
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Do the Chargers have a legit #2 who can step in as a starter? Because it's not like the chargers are guaranteed an elite QB prospect. Unless theyre going all in on Brady or something this is really weird
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Do the Chargers have a legit #2 who can step in as a starter? Because it's not like the chargers are guaranteed an elite QB prospect. Unless theyre going all in on Brady or something this is really weird
The mighty Tyrod Taylor.
I don't think it's the Chargers' choice, Rivers has been pissed at the Spanos family since they left San Diego and given the Chargers aren't going to be competitive next year I imagine he has told them he's going to go find somewhere to chase a ring.
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1308793001213394944?s=20
woof
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DAMN YOU DR. FAUCI
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https://twitter.com/GrantBrisbee/status/1308801419961483265
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Let’s just pretend for a second that Taylor loses the starting job to Herbert while he is out and it’s Taylor’s last viable starting chance in the league. Can he sue the doctor for lost wages on the money he could have earned as an NFL starter if he played well enough to get a gig next year?
Jesus that guy is absolutely out of a job
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for any sort of procedure both inpatient or outpatient an informed consent process is absolutely vital and necessary prior to the procedure, outlining the sorts of risks and complications the patient is taking prior to agreeing to go with the procedure despite knowing the risks.
i won't act like i know anything about being a professional sports team doctor but i have to believe that same sort of process occurred prior to injecting taylor's ribs in an attempt to relieve his pain and allow him to play.
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Sure. Patients are also informed that some medical procedures, if they go horribly wrong can result in their death. Doesn’t stop people from suing doctors then either.
But either way the NFLPA is looking into it. I just hope Taylor is ok and will be able to continue his career
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Herbert officially named Chargers’ starter for the rest of the season. Hope the Chargers’ is up to date on their malpractice insurance.
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my goodness, Tyrod bout to get a nice injury settlement
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https://twitter.com/theonion/status/1346215086776590336?s=21
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Haha
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Staley to LAC
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Chargers hired Rams DC Brandon Staley as head coach.
The Chargers flew under the radar with this one, as most had Bills OC Brian Daboll as the favorite for the job. Perhaps Buffalo moving on another week and the Rams losing this weekend played a part in Staley getting the job, but it's a very interesting hire nonetheless. Staley just wrapped up his first season as the Rams' defensive boss after coming over from the Broncos where he was the OLBs coach. It's a very fast rise for the 38-year-old, whose defense was No. 1 in many categories this season. Simply put, Staley has to nail his OC hire with the Bolts, as keeping Justin Herbert's arrow screaming upward should be of utmost importance. It's a gutsy hire for the Chargers, and Staley won't even have to pack his bags or change stadiums.
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lmao what
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I like Staley. Lot of good things about him. I would have been happy with him as Jets coach
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lmao what
keep his arrow screaming upward
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keep his arrow screaming upward
staley must do his absolute best to keep herbert's dick vigorously erect
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staley must do his absolute best to keep herbert's dick vigorously erect
Maintain skyward turdgidity
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The sister of Chargers owner Dean Spanos has filed a lawsuit in Los Angeles County Superior Court to force the sale of the team because of alleged "mounting debt that has imperiled the family’s finances.
Dea Spanos Berberian, who actually owns as much of the team as Dean, alleges that the family trust’s debts and expenses "exceed $353 million," and that "the trust doesn’t have a plan to pay more than $22 million it has pledged to charities." Owners of the team since 1984, the Spanos family has encountered frequent financial difficulties, at least by the standards of NFL owners. Dean and two other siblings issued a statement saying they have no plans to sell. “For the three of us, the Chargers is one of our family’s most important legacies, just as it was for our parents. Unfortunately, our sister Dea seems to have a different and misguided personal agenda.” Obviously we have not heard the last of this.
Succession for dummies.
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Succession for dummies.
Forcing the Spanos family to sell would be amazing. If they sold to someone that would then take the team back to where they belong that would be even better.
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Nick Spanos
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Ekeler, Bosa, and Linsley placed on COVID list and will miss game vs Houston this Sunday.
Probably still not enough for HOU to pull off the upset
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They gave Mike Williams 3 years, $60 million
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https://twitter.com/chargers/status/1578818393008132098?s=20&t=Ig6UfaxFKB9IQCoK-uqslQ
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J.C. Jackson, who many wanted, has been an abject disaster.
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Bertolet in for the Bolts.
Five former Jets kicking this weekend.
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J.C. Jackson, who many wanted, has been an abject disaster.
Done for the season.
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Chargers let Herbert throw 37 passes in a meaningless game.
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https://twitter.com/TheWolfJuice/status/1614483445169721346?s=19
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https://twitter.com/chargers/status/1656737559475798016 (https://twitter.com/chargers/status/1656737559475798016)
Couple good ones. Creamed corn, vanilla milkshake
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The cannibal sandwich Pop-Tart was a great one.
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https://twitter.com/chargers/status/1656737559475798016 (https://twitter.com/chargers/status/1656737559475798016)
Couple good ones. Creamed corn, vanilla milkshake
MB has been torturing me with shitty Poptart ideas for at least 5 years. I am very happy that this social media team took this idea, leaving him with nothing.
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Which NFL team or player is a ketchup poptart?
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Which NFL team or player is a ketchup poptart?
Pittsburgh?
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Pittsburgh?
That's the best option I can think of.
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MB has been torturing me with shitty Poptart ideas for at least 5 years. I am very happy that this social media team took this idea, leaving him with nothing.
I wanted to start a company with you called Heismantarts.
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Justin Herbert: $262.5M over 5 years. The new highest paid QB in history.
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Staley and Telesco out after last nights absolute debacle.
Jets lost to this freaking team.
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Jets lost to this freaking team.
I hate Staley and everyone knows it, but the Chargers are a little bit better when Herbo and Keenan Allen are active
They don't have Joey Bosa right now either
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https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1750305300530557212?t=K4zIjBBeB3QxaoxAGbjrFw&s=19
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millions to be an nfl coach, gets to live in LA, they already have a very talented QB.
boring forecastable move but makes sense
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Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN
Jim Harbaugh doubled down on J.J. McCarthy: “I think he’s the best quarterback in the draft,” he said from AFC coaches breakfast. Says a ‘killer comes out’ when adversity hits.
this is how you entice teams to trade up to your spot.
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this is how you entice teams to trade up to your spot.
I hope it works so well someone trades up to 4.