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The Rest Of The Sports World => You Don't Know Football => Topic started by: Miamipuck on October 21, 2015, 10:12:42 AM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cameron-heyward-eye-black-father-cancer_56278962e4b02f6a900eb0f3?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cameron-heyward-eye-black-father-cancer_56278962e4b02f6a900eb0f3?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592)
- Cameron Heyward Cuts Deal With NFL Over Eye Black Cancer Tribute Heyward said he plans to honor his late father "in other ways." (http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/56278d411400002a00c7a6f4.jpeg?cache=1ILBglWl87)
- Pittsburgh Steelers defensive end Cameron Heyward announced on Twitter Tuesday night that he would no longer be wearing the eye black with the tribute message "Iron Head" (https://twitter.com/CamHeyward/status/656641663721426944) during games after cutting a deal with the NFL. Heyward had been honoring his late father Craig "Ironhead" Heyward, who played in the NFL for 11 seasons. He died following a battle with bone cancer in 2006.
The defensive end first donned the eye black during the Steelers' Week 5 game against the San Diego Chargers, and again during their Week 6 game against the Arizona Cardinals. For his desire to honor his father, Heyward was fined $5,787 for the first uniform violation (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steelers-cameron-heyward-fined-honoring-late-father_561ec3e3e4b028dd7ea67e76) and was facing a $11,576 fine for his second "offense." (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cameron-heyward-honors-father-faces-fine_56264e31e4b02f6a900dd3b1)
To mitigate the public backlash the NFL has received for punishing him, Heyward met with league officials on Tuesday. To close the controversy, Heyward and the league agreed that the second fine would be significantly reduced (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13935683/cam-heyward-pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-reach-deal-eye-black) as long as Heyward stopped putting "Iron Head" on his eye black, according to ESPN. [/l][/l]
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Goodell needs to kill himself over this stuff.
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I dunno, I get where they're coming from. They can't allow some eyeblack messages and not others.
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I see what the NFL is trying to do. It's not so much what this guy is doing, more so what it leads to others doing down the road.
Next thing you know, players are putting all kinds of excrement all over themselves and their uniform.
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Goodell needs to kill himself over this stuff.
While I don't do the "kill yourself" thing, I think Goodell is out of his mind at this point. "We'll let you wear pink gloves and shoes to show we love titties, but you can't honor your father's fight with cancer because reasons."
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I dunno, I get where they're coming from. They can't allow some eyeblack messages and not others.
There shouldn't be any rule about eyeblack messages.
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There shouldn't be any rule about eyeblack messages.
So they should be allowed to write freak and queynte on their eyeblack if they wish?
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So they should be allowed to write freak and queynte on their eyeblack if they wish?
I'm sure a separate rule could govern that sort of thing without being eyeblack specific. Most players just want to rep their home area code.
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OK. Where's the line? We've established that religious messages are not acceptable, and that family messages are. What about PRAY 4DAD?
The point is, it's much easier just to say no to all of it than it is to negotiate each one separately.
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I mostly don't give a excrement.
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Why can't he just wear a shirt under his pads that says Iron Head? Why does everyone else have to see it?
I have on a thong supporting derriere cancer right now. Enjoy the thought.
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Jim Bob Cooter is now the OC for the Detroit Lions
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LaRon Landry was banned indefinitely fro get this, performance enhancing drugs, he got caught just after coming off a 10 game suspension........GTFO no way he does those:
No way..........
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/alexander-banned-least-landry-indefinitely-234929423--nfl.html
Frank Alexander banned for a year.
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Puck shares some of his personal collection to enhance his point.
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Puck shares some of his personal collection to enhance his point.
No I rub them out to your earring not bicep and chest shots.
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I'm wearing the earring when I watch the game with you and all your friends.
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(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/gEjfX.XsfXoSytQKFVM2VA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztmaT1maWxsO2g9NzAwO2lsPXBsYW5lO3B5b2ZmPTA7cT03NTt3PTEwMTE-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/54445d98bc1acd36890f6a706700db31.jpg)
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http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/12/aaron-rodgers-chris-paul-dude-perfect
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http://news.yahoo.com/rams-punter-hilariously-cowers-seahawks-231613684.html
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idk if this is an LOL or more sad
http://dailysnark.com/rams-william-hayes-doesnt-believe-dinosaurs-existed-says-crazy-talk/
Even though St. Louis Rams defensive ends Chris Long and William Hayes may be good friends, they don’t agree about everything. In fact, they are on opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to dinosaurs.
Long is fascinated by dinosaurs but has a hard time talking to his buddy about them—because Hayes doesn’t believe they ever existed.
“He thinks archaeologists place bones underground like a parent would place Easter eggs,” Long said while laughing earlier this season, per Nick Wagoner of ESPN.com. “They just planted them. It’s some large conspiracy. He does not believe that dinosaurs ever existed, and he thinks that mermaids are real. I love dinosaurs, so we have a big point of contention.”
There are certain things some people just have to see to believe. The 30-year-old Hayes needs more evidence.
Per Wagoner, Hayes wonders how archaeologists know how dinosaur bones fit together without ever having seen a dinosaur.
No, I don’t believe dinosaurs existed. Not even a little bit. With these bones, it’s crazy because man has never seen a dinosaur, we can agree on that, right? But we know exactly how to put these bones together? I believe there is more of a chance you will find a mermaid than you will a dinosaur because we find different species in the water all the time.
I don’t understand how [Long] just believes in dinosaurs. That’s just crazy to me. We know they died. We know what a T-Rex eats? That don’t sound crazy to you? We have never seen a dinosaur before but we know exactly where every single rib [was] and which rib goes where. That’s crazy to me.
Wagoner noted that the back-and-forth may have started as a joke. However, he also wrote that the defensive end “vehemently” refuted the long-ago existence of dinosaurs.
It’s interesting that Hayes said it’s possible mermaids could be real, though he was just arguing there’s more of a chance they exist than dinosaurs ever having walked the earth. That, though, is an entirely different discussion for a different time.
Now that Hayes has made his argument, you be the judge: Did dinosaurs exist?
Clearly the nfl concussion problem is worse than we ever imagined
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14976897/detroit-lions-lb-deandre-levy-wonders-why-league-employs-dr-elliot-pellman
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https://twitter.com/HBalzer721/status/712708119793573888
Sources say NFL agreed not to have Rams on Hard Knocks in 2014 if they drafted Michael Sam.
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hahaha
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Balzer. uhuhuh.....
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/here-s-why--12-draft-grades-for-broncos--seahawks-and-49ers-were-comically-bad--064646227.html
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This is definitely not Lol, I figured this is an NFL thread and I would put it here:
http://nypost.com/2016/05/23/i-tried-to-kill-myself-after-the-nfl-heres-what-happened-next/
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Only Puck would poke fun at a suicide attempt.
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Not LoL either but a big fuckup by the league
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/15667689/congressional-report-finds-nfl-improperly-intervened-brain-research-cost-taxpayers-16-million
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Only Puck would poke fun at a suicide attempt.
Haha gfy.
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Just getting around to reading the 2016 rule changes now. Now the ball starts on the 25 following a touchback during a kickoff.
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There's also this:
— Due to the increase in fouls and fines on lows hits on passers, the QB in the pocket in a passing posture (or outside the pocket if he re-establishes passing posture) is protected from forcible contact to the knees or below. Even if the defender is coming off a block and wrapping up with his arms, he must avoid forcible contact with his helmet, shoulder, forearms or chest. Defenders are still allowed to swipe the leg of the passer with arms only.
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Don't look directly at the QB
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Don't look directly at the QB
Triggered
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Triggered
hahaha
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@PFTCommenter:The NFL concussion protocol would of cleared JFK to reenter the parade
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@PFTCommenter:The NFL concussion protocol would of cleared JFK to reenter the parade
5 honks
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Bill Cowher just gave an excellent, simple explanation of what the new rule should be regarding what is considered a catch in the NFL. Basically, if you have control of the ball and are have both feet/knee/elbow/derriere down, it's a catch and nothing that happens beyond that matters. In the middle of the field, if you have control of the ball and break the plane of the goalie, it's a TD, nothing beyond that matters.
Very simple. Then the only questionable part is the judgment call of whether he has possession. No more worrying about whether he let go of the ball after the catch and the process of falling downand getting up and going home and getting a sandwich.
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On this date 18 years ago, Bill Belichick resigned after just 24 hours as Jets coach.
On Feb. 1, ESPN 30 for 30 relives it all with "The Two Bills."
Gay
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I know what I'm not watching.
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I know what I'm not watching.
Yeah, it was bad enough watching it all happen.
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“New Bears special teams coordinator Chris Tabor on his coaching philosophy: "Adapt or die. The dinosaurs didn't figure it out and they're extinct."
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Dinosaurs get no respect
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Dinosaurs get no respect
When a 6 mile wide asteroid crushes the earth and creates cold and darkness for many years, you have to adapt. Run a jet sweep into that abyss or something.
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Dinosaurs get no respect
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^freaking genius.
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When a 6 mile wide asteroid crushes the earth and creates cold and darkness for many years, you have to adapt. Run a jet sweep into that abyss or something.
As Jet fans we know all about many years of cold and darkness. I wouldn't even know what the f*ck to do if the sun came out.
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I totally read all of this article and you guys should too:
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/01/nfl-concussion-super-bowl-protocol-football/
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I totally read all of this article and you guys should too:
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/01/nfl-concussion-super-bowl-protocol-football/
First I was like oh cool, The Intercept.
Then I was like oh. It's Shaun King.
Then I was like actually this is one of his good articles.
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I stopped as soon as he mentioned African-American stuff. He's a racist as much as any KKK guy and I am not click bait for that guy.
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He's a racist as much as any KKK guy
lol
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I'd sooner read an article by Shaun King the former Bucs QB than that poser.
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http://washington.cbslocal.com/2018/02/26/listen-ian-rapoport-hangs-up-twice-on-chad-dukes-who-blows-a-gasket/
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damn. that is a dick move lol
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http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/sports/football/seahawks-latest-america-fear-woke-athletes-article-1.3870150?__twitter_impression=true
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http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/sports/football/seahawks-latest-america-fear-woke-athletes-article-1.3870150?__twitter_impression=true
That article gave me cancer.
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Seven rules/bylaws were approved today by NFL owners. Among them:
*The catch rule
*Al Riveron can now eject players from the NFL instant replay booth
*Teams can now trade players on IR
Yes, give that fucktard Al Riveron more power, that's what the NFL was missing
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Apparently the proposal that DPI be made a 15 yard penalty rather than a spot foul was made by the Jets, and also withdrawn.
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Apparently the proposal that DPI be made a 15 yard penalty rather than a spot foul was made by the Jets, and also withdrawn.
I wouldn't like that change but I can understand why the Jets wanted it. Just cut Skrine, problem solved.
The rule I hate the most is the automatic first down for so many penalties that don't merit it. You got 3rd and 22, a stupid little hand slap for a 5-yard penalty and they get a new series of downs. It's hard enough to play defense anymore, at least don't negate a good defensive series that way. Give them the 5 yards, 3rd and 17.
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Teams eligible for Hard Knocks 2019: Raiders, Detroit, SF, Washington, Giants.
Who do you want and why is it the Giants?
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Teams eligible for Hard Knocks 2019: Raiders, Detroit, SF, Washington, Giants.
Who do you want and why is it the Giants?
How do they determine eligibility?
Washington is an uninteresting clusterfuck. freak the Giants (which is who it will be if ownership is on board. OBJ + Barkley ftw). No one pays attention to Detroit.
Oakland because the LOLs would be immense is my vote.
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How do they determine eligibility?
Washington is an uninteresting clusterfuck. freak the Giants (which is who it will be if ownership is on board. OBJ + Barkley ftw). No one pays attention to Detroit.
Oakland because the LOLs would be immense is my vote.
You have to have missed the playoffs for at least the last two years, and not have a new head coach.
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You have to have missed the playoffs for at least the last two years, and not have a new head coach.
How did we get on after making the AFC Championship Game?
By this standard we were eligible for the last three years.
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How did we get on after making the AFC Championship Game?
By this standard we were eligible for the last three years.
Teams can volunteer or agree to a request to be on, the rules I quoted are the ones that allow a team to be forced to do it. My guess is that HBO asked us and we agreed.
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Teams can volunteer or agree to a request to be on, the rules I quoted are the ones that allow a team to be forced to do it. My guess is that HBO asked us and we agreed.
Makes sense. Woody, Rex and Tannenbaum loved to be high profile.
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Teams eligible for Hard Knocks 2019: Raiders, Detroit, SF, Washington, Giants.
Who do you want and why is it the Giants?
Washington or Raiders. Schadenfreude.
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Washington or Raiders. Schadenfreude.
I'm torn on whether I want to actually watch the Gruden show. Washington just sounds really dull.
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I only watched when the Jets were on, and one episode where Ochocinco got cut after beating up his girlfriend, I think Miami.
I like Ochoconco now, he's hilarious on Instagram and Twitter.
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I'm torn on whether I want to actually watch the Gruden show. Washington just sounds really dull.
I don't know if there's a fanbase in the NFL that hates their team more than Skins fans hate the Skins. At least at the moment.
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It’ll be the Raiders no doubt in my mind
If it’s possible to bet this get me a link
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It’ll be the Raiders no doubt in my mind
If it’s possible to bet this get me a link
They have the biggest national following of that list of teams.
We host them, Pittsburgh, Dallas and the Giants this year, get ready for some visiting fans.
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I'd have to believe HBO is saving the Raiders for whenever they finally make their move to Vegas. Can you imagine the shitshow the first year they're there?
"Let's get a goddamn snack" will be replaced with "Let's go to the hoehouse!"
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i cant imagine theyd make the raiders do it when they dont even have a place to play in
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This is actually pretty interesting.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/kirk-cousins-is-not-better-than-joe-montana-so-lets-fix-passer-rating/
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https://mobile.twitter.com/cardschatter/status/1095056269956702208
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@TambaHali91 is going off right now
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@TambaHali91 is going off right now
WTF is he going on about?
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WTF is he going on about?
(https://i.imgur.com/WzewsbL.png)
some religious stuff by a quick cursory examination of his timeline
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https://twitter.com/nflfootballops/status/1110597189800288256
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“It doesn’t change the NFC Championshp game, but changes have been made: All offensive and defensive pass interference calls, as well as non-calls, now be challenged, per league source.”
Schefter
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“It doesn’t change the NFC Championshp game, but changes have been made: All offensive and defensive pass interference calls, as well as non-calls, now be challenged, per league source.”
Schefter
Good. It's the single most egregiously called penalty in the game, and it has the biggest impact.
As an adjunct to this, the one rule I want to see implemented is an automatic ten yard penalty on any player making a flag throwing motion to the refs. I'm so freaking sick of receivers and Tom Brady trying to call a penalty on every single incomplete pass.
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Great. 4 hour games now.
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The Bengals are the only team that voted against the new DPI and OPI rule, per sources
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Great. 4 hour games now.
Coaches still have the same number of challenges as they did last season.
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This rule change is stupid as freak
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This rule change is stupid as freak
Why tho
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The only thing bad about this rule change is it should have allowed for a challenge of any call or non-call. What about holding calls or ones that aren't flagged? Those hurt too.
This is probably the only subject where I agree with Bill Belichick. All calls/non-calls should be reviewable. Period. You get 3 challenges a game, and they'd be much better used for making sure human error doesn't screw things up.
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National Challenge League
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National Challenge League
I really don't understand people's problem with challenges. People complained challenges would make games longer, and they didn't. They didn't make baseball games longer either.
The technology exists to get calls right. If this new rule was ratified 12 months ago, maybe the Saints beat the damn Pats rather than watching the Rams excrement the bed.
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According to Andrew Beaton of the Wall Street Journal, NFL owners have proposed an 18-game regular season with a caveat that no player would be allowed to compete in more than 16 games.
The NFLPA has been reluctant to stretch the regular season beyond its current 16-game schedule due to injury concerns, but putting a cap on how many games a player can suit up for would be a fair compromise. Per Beaton, extending the regular season by two games could increase league revenue by $2.5 billion while potentially adding $15 million to each team's salary cap. Choosing when to sit players would also add an interesting layer to coaching decisions. It's unclear how much (if any) traction this idea has, but it's not the worst idea the NFL has ever come up with.
Interesting idea.
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Interesting idea.
It's a terrible idea.
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It's a terrible idea.
I actually like it a lot
Although I think the biggest issue is how you handle a few select positions. Notably QB kicker and punter as this could have a dramatic impact on the season and really could influence parity (ie teams that have one or two really shitty match ups or play teams resting their QB's etc) . And it encourages teams to rest guys thst are kinda messed up coming off minor injuries concussions etc.
That said if they figured out how to get around sitting players at these positions, it could be a great idea.
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I actually like it a lot
Although I think the biggest issue is how you handle a few select positions. Notably QB kicker and punter as this could have a dramatic impact on the season and really could influence parity (ie teams that have one or two really shitty match ups or play teams resting their QB's etc) . And it encourages teams to rest guys thst are kinda messed up coming off minor injuries concussions etc.
That said if they figured out how to get around sitting players at these positions, it could be a great idea.
As usual, you're completely wrong. No one is putting their $25M quarterback out there behind replacement linemen, so each team is going to have two games a season with a reserve team on the field. Neither of those games will be a divisional or conference game because no one wants to hand a leg up to their postseason rivals, so we'll end up turning a couple of interconference games for each team into glorified preseason games featuring backups, replacements and JAGs trying to prove themselves worthy.
Preseason football is excrement enough to watch without needing to introduce it at random times into the middle of the season.
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As usual, you're completely wrong. No one is putting their $25M quarterback out there behind replacement linemen, so each team is going to have two games a season with a reserve team on the field. Neither of those games will be a divisional or conference game because no one wants to hand a leg up to their postseason rivals, so we'll end up turning a couple of interconference games for each team into glorified preseason games featuring backups, replacements and JAGs trying to prove themselves worthy.
Preseason football is excrement enough to watch without needing to introduce it at random times into the middle of the season.
There's a difference between putting your QB out there behind a full line of replacements, and rotating out a single guy on your line.
You'd have to phase something like this in over say several years, adjusting roster size, and allowing teams to build their rosters accordingly.
I think it has the potential to work well for the most part, but I agree with certain positions it could be problematic.
That said it also has many ways it could go wrong, and a far easier solution would be to make an 18 game season with 3 bye weeks per team and or extending the playoffs
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It's a terrible idea.
It's freaking patently stupid.
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It's freaking patently stupid.
I second this times 5000x
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Imagine this system was in place for this season, we book our tailgate tickets (we should think about that in the not too distant future) and then a couple of days before we find out we're spending $100 each to watch Trevor Siemian vs Cooper Rush.
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The Packers president apparently suggested a 17 game season, with every team playing 1 neutral site game to expand worldwide games.
That plus maybe 2 extra bye weeks could be interesting
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To the surprise of no one, the NFLPA wants nothing to do with it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/07/13/nfl-players-union-rejects-latest-proposal-game-season/
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I think it's an interesting idea from a strategy perspective which will get alot of discussion throughout every season. What approach do you take to get everyone to 16 games.
Unfortunately this likely makes the experience terrible for fans, especially those going to games.
The question is, if the QB got to play all of the games would you be as upset?
A stat from profootballlogic says that on average a player plays 14.2 games per season. Which means this proposal is already quite similar to the realities of the NFL
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The league is worth well over $10 billion. Why the freak do they keep messing with things? I’m really beginning to hate everything about what the NFL stands for.
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The league is worth well over $10 billion. Why the freak do they keep messing with things? I’m really beginning to hate everything about what the NFL stands for.
Less of an american thing and more of a capitalism thing. People can't ever be satisfied, especially the rich. The league is great right now, this is change so billionaires can make more money.
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I think it's an interesting idea from a strategy perspective which will get alot of discussion throughout every season. What approach do you take to get everyone to 16 games.
Unfortunately this likely makes the experience terrible for fans, especially those going to games.
The question is, if the QB got to play all of the games would you be as upset?
A stat from profootballlogic says that on average a player plays 14.2 games per season. Which means this proposal is already quite similar to the realities of the NFL
I do think QB completely changes this.
I mean honestly if the system encourages coaches to rest guys when they're banged up (ie bringing a guy back too soon from a concussion, having a guy play through an injury, keeping a worn down guy fresh) it would likely be one of the best things possible for player health and safety.
But for teams where they have one player (other than QB) who completely transforms the dynamic of a team making or breaking them I could see that being extremely frustrating and watering down the product on the field. On the flip side I think it also increases the potential for injury for certain players. I mean do you really want your franchise QB or the faces of the league playing with backup players protecting them?
I think it would have to be extremely regulated and have some serious potential for abuse though. I mean do you set a rule for how many players can be kept out of a single game? Does this effectively turn the last week of the season into a rest your entire team kind of game?
I really like the concept, but I don't think it's practical. I think just adding extra bye weeks and extending the season is far more practical. Thus creating a longer season, encouraging fans to watch teams other than just their own (by having say 3 bye weeks a season) and improving the health of players by incorporating rest and downtime into the season
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Why do we need more games?
Every game we add dilutes the importance of every game
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Why do we need more games?
Every game we add dilutes the importance of every game
Because football is good so more football is better.
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Because football is good so more football is better.
They're equating football to heroin.
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I've long advocated for trading preseason games for ones that count, but that idea is just trash.
Say the Jets are a win from the playoffs, with two games to go, and have yet to have sat Darnold and Bell. GTFO
Cut out a preseason game and add one regular-season game, or cut 2 preseason, add an additional bye, and add 2 real games.
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So both AFC playoff games are on the same day? Wasn't it always one from each conference or am I just having a Berenstein Bears moment?
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So both AFC playoff games are on the same day? Wasn't it always one from each conference or am I just having a Berenstein Bears moment?
I think you’re right but there wasn’t a rule for it or anything. They just slot them for ratings
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First time I remember it this way. AFC East vs AFC South day, should be fun.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28587020/demaurice-smith-outlines-message-players-ahead-nflpa-board-meeting
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28587020/demaurice-smith-outlines-message-players-ahead-nflpa-board-meeting
The talk of a two year strike isn't something I'm particularly fond of
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The talk of a two year strike isn't something I'm particularly fond of
No, although I think that Smith's words were less rabble-raising firebrand and more cautionary. They have a bunch of key things agreed already, he's basically saying that if the members want him to dig his heels in about the other outstanding items (especially the extra game) he will but they need to be aware that it could be a long and difficult fight.
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The talk of a two year strike isn't something I'm particularly fond of
dcm siding with ownership again
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dcm siding with ownership again
Yeha I hope the players go on a 10 year strike, freak the owners!
Let's all watch tennis till 2030
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Yeha I hope the players go on a 10 year strike, freak the owners!
Let's all watch tennis till 2030
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An NFL strike could help us with the cap.
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Obviously no one wants any part of a strike...
...but I'm just saying an mini lockout that pushes free agency back into July was fun as hell the last time it happened.
By the way, fwiw, the 17 game season IMHO is the dumbest idea going. The regular season/playoff structure of the NFL is perfect. Keep it as it is. If anything, cut down the pre-season by a game or two.
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Obviously no one wants any part of a strike...
...but I'm just saying an mini lockout that pushes free agency back into July was fun as hell the last time it happened.
By the way, fwiw, the 17 game season IMHO is the dumbest idea going. The regular season/playoff structure of the NFL is perfect. Keep it as it is. If anything, cut down the pre-season by a game or two.
Who cares about perfection when you can make more money!!!!
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Obviously no one wants any part of a strike...
...but I'm just saying an mini lockout that pushes free agency back into July was fun as hell the last time it happened.
By the way, fwiw, the 17 game season IMHO is the dumbest idea going. The regular season/playoff structure of the NFL is perfect. Keep it as it is. If anything, cut down the pre-season by a game or two.
Pre season week 4 has become a total waste, at least get rid of that.
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Pre season week 4 has become a total waste, at least get rid of that.
But then it would just become preseason week 3.
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But then it would just become preseason week 3.
So get rid of that too. I'm fine with two games, you need probably two to get a look at so many players.
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I've always wanted a week of preseason replaced with a week of real football.
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What was the reasoning against adding weeks to the season and increasing the bye weeks again?
I mean wouldn't everybody win if the nfl scrapped 2 preseason games, adding 2 weeks to the season, and added 2 bye weeks to every team.
More football, more money, healthy players, better talent on the field. Everybody wins.
Hell they could even get creative and possibly add Christmas eve/day games by giving the teams involved bye weeks right before (possibly Columbus day? Labor day?)
I feel like there's so much room for everyone to win but they'd rather argue over stupid excrement
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I've always wanted a week of preseason replaced with a week of real football.
2 preseason games is all you need. That's all the CFL uses, and the league didn't die.
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What was the reasoning against adding weeks to the season and increasing the bye weeks again?
I mean wouldn't everybody win if the nfl scrapped 2 preseason games, adding 2 weeks to the season, and added 2 bye weeks to every team.
More football, more money, healthy players, better talent on the field. Everybody wins.
Hell they could even get creative and possibly add Christmas eve/day games by giving the teams involved bye weeks right before (possibly Columbus day? Labor day?)
I feel like there's so much room for everyone to win but they'd rather argue over stupid excrement
The only thing additional games would help is revenue.
- Additional weeks means every game is worth less - the importance of each game is an important staple of the NFL
- More weeks means worse talent
- During the season - more injuries and worse players starting (adding a buy week doesn't fix it, it just prolongs the season)
- During the season - more players sitting in the regular season once seedings are clinched
- Post Season - More weeks means higher chance of important players being unavailable in the playoffs
- More weeks means a shorter offseason for recovery
Most importantly, more games means that everything the NFL is doing around safety is just PR.
The NFL is perfect as it is, and the only reason to change the current layout is more money. at the expense of everything else.
If the game somehow becomes safer in the nxt 5 years I'll change my tune
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2 preseason games is all you need. That's all the CFL uses, and the league didn't die.
FWIW the first few weeks of the NFL is usually pretty bad football.
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The only thing additional games would help is revenue.
- Additional weeks means every game is worth less - the importance of each game is an important staple of the NFL
- More weeks means worse talent
- During the season - more injuries and worse players starting (adding a buy week doesn't fix it, it just prolongs the season)
- During the season - more players sitting in the regular season once seedings are clinched
- Post Season - More weeks means higher chance of important players being unavailable in the playoffs
- More weeks means a shorter offseason for recovery
Most importantly, more games means that everything the NFL is doing around safety is just PR.
The NFL is perfect as it is, and the only reason to change the current layout is more money. at the expense of everything else.
If the game somehow becomes safer in the nxt 5 years I'll change my tune
But if they added 2 weeks and 2 bye weeks each player would play the exact amount of games invalidating a lot of those points.
I'm flat out talking a 19 week season, with 3 bye weeks per team. And possibly dicking around with adding a few games since you'd have bye week flex ability (ie Christmas eve/day games etc)
You get all the benefits of a longer season with (almost) no negatives.
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But if they added 2 weeks and 2 bye weeks each player would play the exact amount of games invalidating a lot of those points.
I'm flat out talking a 19 week season, with 3 bye weeks per team. And possibly dicking around with adding a few games since you'd have bye week flex ability (ie Christmas eve/day games etc)
You get all the benefits of a longer season with (almost) no negatives.
don't need a longer season.
Just a shorter preseason.
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The only thing additional games would help is revenue.
Additional games = more football = better. I like football and I want more of it.
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Additional games = more football = better. I like football and I want more of it.
Your Ottawa Redblacks provide that for you.
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Your Ottawa Redblacks provide that for you.
Not last season they didn't
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Not last season they didn't
LaPolice will provide in 2020
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Additional games = more football = better. I like football and I want more of it.
This
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Pre season week 4 has become a total waste, at least get rid of that.
Mark this down I totally agree with you.
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So get rid of that too. I'm fine with two games, you need probably two to get a look at so many players.
The thing that isn't oool is players working themselves into game shape by playing regular season games, that's a good recipe for injury. but the preseason is pretty useless imo.
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Charlie Casserly just said Teddy Bridgewater is better and more consistent than Kirk Cousins and Nick Foles
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Charlie Casserly just said Teddy Bridgewater is better and more consistent than Kirk Cousins and Nick Foles
Casserly also endorsed Mike Maccagnan and Todd Bowles.
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Casserly also endorsed Mike Maccagnan and Todd Bowles.
I wouldn't trust that old freak Casserly's opinion on anything not related to pureed root vegetables.
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I'd pay an sizable amount to see Charlie Casserly beaten on national television.
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https://www.google.com/amp/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/02/10/report-nfl-may-add-flex-scheduling-to-next-monday-night-football-contract/amp/
This would be absolutely spectacular
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I still absolutely freaking hate the idea of a 17 game season.
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I still absolutely freaking hate the idea of a 17 game season.
Agreed
Only people that win are the owners
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I still absolutely freaking hate the idea of a 17 game season.
I agree, because it's a stupid odd number. 18 would be much better.
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I still absolutely freaking hate the idea of a 17 game season.
This.
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Extra games will alter historical stats/records.
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Extra games will alter historical stats/records.
Of all the mostly shitty arguments to not do it, this is one of the shittier ones. Who cares about how much it upsets stat nerds?
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I support the owners so I vote for 17 games. These players have gotten too uppity recently
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I agree, because it's a stupid odd number. 18 would be much better.
This
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I agree, because it's a stupid odd number. 18 would be much better.
freak off, prime's rule
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freak off, prime's rule
Prime numbers have their uses but they ruin the essential symmetry of a sports league.
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Yarp. Goodell's been trying to fix the NFL since Day 1 and just about everything he's done has negatively impacted the game. But the bottom line is sweet.
Love those long PAT's though.
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Yarp. Goodell's been trying to fix the NFL since Day 1 and just about everything he's done has negatively impacted the game. But the bottom line is sweet.
Love those long PAT's though.
I actually like the changed PAT rule. I used to never pay attention to the attempts because they were practically automatic.
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What is the argument against adding games to the regular season and removing them from preseason?
I just can't seem to find one that is convincing. Less garbage time, more real football. How awful?
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What is the argument against adding games to the regular season and removing them from preseason?
I just can't seem to find one that is convincing. Less garbage time, more real football. How awful?
I have no problem with phasing one game of pre-season out of the schedule, especially considering what a waste the 4th game is.
I just think the NFL has a perfect balance between enough games and exclusivity of the playoffs. More spots-less meaning.
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I have no problem with phasing one game of pre-season out of the schedule, especially considering what a waste the 4th game is.
I just think the NFL has a perfect balance between enough games and exclusivity of the playoffs. More spots-less meaning.
I don't want more playoff spots, I want more regular season games.
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I don't want more playoff spots, I want more regular season games.
But one is apparently following the other. This whole addition of a 7th seed and taking away the second bye is stupid as excrement imho.
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I'm conflicted on the additional wild card, but only because I like that 2 teams can earn a bye.
I'm all in for more playoffs though. More football = more happy
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NFL is considering delaying the start of free agency d/t coronavirus
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NFL is considering delaying the start of free agency d/t coronavirus
Stupid, they don't need to be flying guys around. Just give them your pitch on a videoconference, I never understood this whole "don't let him leave the building" thing. Way more fun to make it an online auction.
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Stupid, they don't need to be flying guys around. Just give them your pitch on a videoconference, I never understood this whole "don't let him leave the building" thing. Way more fun to make it an online auction.
Well the nfl does have a valid point about optics.
While most of the country is in mass hysteria and other major sporting leagues are shutting down for player/fan safety. Do they really want headlines about nfl players signing record breaking mega million dollar contracts.
I think as long they open up the legal tampering period on time and simply delay signings being official for another week or two. It's not unreasonable.
Of course if the situation becomes more serious in a few weeks then that could easily backfire
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letters of intent with no monetary value assigned
ho ho yatzee
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Does that mean they're also pushing out the "legal tampering" period? Because if not, they've effectively done nothing.
Well, other than give more guys the chance to work out a deal with the Jets that the Vikings can later swoop in and steal.
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I don't care if the draft is on ICQ or Myspace. Just need them picks.
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Draft event cancelled in Vegas, draft itself is still on.
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Draft event cancelled in Vegas, draft itself is still on.
Will they still pump in the chorus of Boo's every time Goddell walks on stage?
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Will they still pump in the chorus of Boo's every time Goddell walks on stage?
No, they will be audible from the entire US.
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I have a question, this might genuinely be one for dcm. We know that players pay tax on their salary where they earn it i.e. each game accounts for a portion of their tax liability that is applied in whatever state the game is played. What happens when a team restructures a contract to clear up cap space by converting salary to signing bonus? As they're now earning it all in one go, do they pay tax on all of it in their home state or does it still get accrued for tax purposes on a game by game basis?
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OTAs delayed indefinitely and all team facilities closed.
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I have a question, this might genuinely be one for dcm. We know that players pay tax on their salary where they earn it i.e. each game accounts for a portion of their tax liability that is applied in whatever state the game is played. What happens when a team restructures a contract to clear up cap space by converting salary to signing bonus? As they're now earning it all in one go, do they pay tax on all of it in their home state or does it still get accrued for tax purposes on a game by game basis?
I'm not quite that knowledgable but it sounds like there's some leway bases on how it's structured
Player bonuses are also subject to a state income tax if the state where the team is based imposes one.
How bonuses are paid
Bonuses paid with a salary, and not separately identified, will be taxed at the same rate as wages. But if the bonus is paid with a regular paycheck, the withholding table will calculate the taxes due as though the extra-large paycheck will be the amount paid each paycheck for the remainder of the year, so the withholding may be higher than necessary to cover the actual tax liability on the bonus.
If the bonus is paid separately, it will be taxed at a flat rate of 22 percent if bonuses paid to the employee throughout the year total less than $1 million. The employer can also choose to treat the bonus as though it were paid with other wages to determine the tax rate. Either way, getting a bonus will increase the withholding for that paycheck.
Meaning teams could probably help effectively lower a players state income tax, but the teams would probably end up guaranteeing additional money by doing so
At least thats my cruede interpretation
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Doooooooon’t. Caaaaaaaaaare.
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I don't care if the draft is on ICQ or Myspace. Just need them picks.
AIM chat
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AIM chat
I had the dopest away messages back in the day
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AIM chat
I had a buddy in the dorm in college that met chicks on AIM. He never really got a good look at them before they met. It was like wheel of fortune except all the choices were bad. He hooked up with some real beasts because he was a hornball. We used to call his room while he was hooking up with the beast and laugh at him.
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I had a buddy in the dorm in college that met chicks on AIM. He never really got a good look at them before they met. It was like wheel of fortune except all the choices were bad. He hooked up with some real beasts because he was a hornball. We used to call his room while he was hooking up with the beast and laugh at him.
Your sausage party was calling a dude banging a chick...to laugh at him? #winning?
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Your sausage party was calling a dude banging a chick...to laugh at him? #winning?
It was a sad time in retrospect. I had no game and it was amusing at least. I wasn't jealous though. He had some power lifting truck driver women in there.
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It was a sad time in retrospect. I had no game and it was amusing at least. I wasn't jealous though. He had some power lifting truck driver women in there.
A wise man once said...
"It all looks the same in the dark."
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A wise man once said...
"It all looks the same in the dark."
Yeah but then he turned the lights on and said "freak that noise." and puked.
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I had a fraternity brother who's sole mission in life was to bang as many fat white chicks as he could. He used to call it his own personal reparations plan.
He was real successful at it too.
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I had a fraternity brother who's sole mission in life was to bang as many fat white chicks as he could. He used to call it his own personal reparations plan.
He was real successful at it too.
i used to work with a guy exactly like that. We called him Garbage Dink.
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22 running backs were taken in the 2015 NFL Draft.
After Todd Gurley was released by the Rams today, not a single one of them is still with the team that selected them.
Source: ESPN
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[Albom]Slay: I posted a pic of a WR on instagram, & Patirica told me, stop sucking this mans d**k. So I’m like, 'Whoa.' I’m like, 'Hold up.' Where I’m from, that don’t fly. Cause I wouldn’t say that to him. I wouldn’t say to him to stop you know what to Bill Belichick. That’s just not me as a man. (twi
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So Andrus Peat just signed a 5 yr 57.5 million deal with $33 million guaranteed to stay with the Saints.
Well I’ll be damned. We almost signed all 3 of our Ol for that
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Matt Patricia appears to be a terrible person to work for at the very least.
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22 running backs were taken in the 2015 NFL Draft.
After Todd Gurley was released by the Rams today, not a single one of them is still with the team that selected them.
Source: ESPN
None of the QBs from that draft with the team that selected them either, including the top 2 picks. Technically the RBs outlasted them.
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Ravens team president Dick Cass expects the coronavirus pandemic to lead to the cancellation of all offseason activities.
“I just don’t think the OTAs are going to happen at all,” Cass said. “I hope I’m wrong. I’m hoping we can get some players in (the facility) in June, but I’m sort of doubtful of that.” Cass said training camp was the most realistic return date for team activities. Evan that, of course, is far from certain in the most uncertain of times. For now, the NFL is steaming ahead with the draft even though many of the league's general managers are reportedly unhappy with the decision. The executives feel they need more time to prepare with the lack of Pro Days and in-person evaluations.
Dick derriere Has Spoken.
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Dick derriere Has Spoken.
Could you imagine how tough that guy is? Growing up with a name like that he must have been fighting every day of his life.
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Could you imagine how tough that guy is? Growing up with a name like that he must have been fighting every day of his life.
He doesn't look very tough.
(https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/-/media/Images/SBD-Photos/2017/12/26/Cass.ashx?w=928)
He looks like a guy who if you even think about laughing at his name will buy every business your family works at just so he can fire them.
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He looks like he's seeking revenge for having his head stuffed in a toilet all through school.
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He has a wife, you know.
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i think one positive to come out of covid19, is that we dont really have to hear anything about antonio brown begging to play in the nfl again right now.
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the cba had language added after the ratification that changed how benefits worked, eric reid is calling for a revote and the cba is being investigated.
thatd be some kind of chaos if they are forced to revote and it fails.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28972490/eric-reid-calls-probe-revote-post-ballot-changes-cba
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the cba had language added after the ratification that changed how benefits worked, eric reid is calling for a revote and the cba is being investigated.
thatd be some kind of chaos if they are forced to revote and it fails.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28972490/eric-reid-calls-probe-revote-post-ballot-changes-cba
I'll wait until the NFLPA lawyers read it and comment. But Reid has been one of the most anti nfl anti new CBA players around. So anything coming from him and his lawyers is extremely biased garbage not worth listening to. If the NFLPA, Aaron Rodgers or any of the other highly vocal nfl player leadership starts singing the same tune I'll listen.
But till then it's irrelevant to me
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Eric Reid lol
Good luck w that
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Andrew Siciliano
@AndrewSiciliano
The additional @NFL Wild Card game on Sunday, January 10 will be simulcasted on @Nickelodeon in a broadcast tailored to younger fans.
I thought this was a joke for sure. 'Tisn't.
This is going to be ridiculed for an entire year and then Nickelodeon is going to freak around and do a better broadcast than 80% of announcer teams.
In fact the more I think of it, the more I want NFL broadcasts filtered through unusual media pairings. BET NFL. Adult Swim NFL. Playboy Channel NFL.
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I thought this was a joke for sure. 'Tisn't.
This is going to be ridiculed for an entire year and then Nickelodeon is going to freak around and do a better broadcast than 80% of announcer teams.
In fact the more I think of it, the more I want NFL broadcasts filtered through unusual media pairings. BET NFL. Adult Swim NFL. Playboy Channel NFL.
This is crazy. How are they going to decide which WC game gets “shunned” to Nickelodeon?
And I don’t disagree I wouldn’t be surprised if you have 3 teenagers in the booth, that they would provide significantly better commentary than Dan Dierdorf (I know he’s retired) and Booger McFarland
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I thought this was a joke for sure. 'Tisn't.
This is going to be ridiculed for an entire year and then Nickelodeon is going to freak around and do a better broadcast than 80% of announcer teams.
In fact the more I think of it, the more I want NFL broadcasts filtered through unusual media pairings. BET NFL. Adult Swim NFL. Playboy Channel NFL.
BET NFL would be hilarious
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BET NFL would be hilarious
That cracka' fumbled!
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That cracka' fumbled!
YA KNO WUT DA JETS NEED? A BLACK KICKER!
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This is crazy. How are they going to decide which WC game gets “shunned” to Nickelodeon?
And I don’t disagree I wouldn’t be surprised if you have 3 teenagers in the booth, that they would provide significantly better commentary than Dan Dierdorf (I know he’s retired) and Booger McFarland
It's a simulcast, so the game will also be shown on a regular channel
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NFL on the braille channel.
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It's a simulcast, so the game will also be shown on a regular channel
dream wrecker
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Anyone have the athletic?
https://theathletic.com/1715455/?source=fbpcadsbc&ad_id=23844361799280092&fbclid=IwAR3mkKoPP-v7zBUKYZYEgERoQxAhh7RREeqQb5uz0Z8AeT8aT2sNYBRyGn4
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Anyone have the athletic?
https://theathletic.com/1715455/?source=fbpcadsbc&ad_id=23844361799280092&fbclid=IwAR3mkKoPP-v7zBUKYZYEgERoQxAhh7RREeqQb5uz0Z8AeT8aT2sNYBRyGn4
Nope but articles like that almost make me wish I did.
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Anyone have the athletic?
https://theathletic.com/1715455/?source=fbpcadsbc&ad_id=23844361799280092&fbclid=IwAR3mkKoPP-v7zBUKYZYEgERoQxAhh7RREeqQb5uz0Z8AeT8aT2sNYBRyGn4
I have it...here's the blurb on the Jets. It's not great.
New York Jets
It’s strange seeing the Bengals making bigger-ticket purchases than the Jets in free agency, especially with coach Adam Gase and quarterback Sam Darnold entering what would seem to be pivotal seasons. But after the Jets made poor investments under a desperate GM last offseason, a little restraint could be good for the long-term outlook. Not that the Jets were inactive. They signed a long list of players without making a long list of commitments deep into the future.
It’s a successful free agency if the Jets fixed their offensive line, which multiple execs thought they did not despite signing former Seattle tackle George Fant and former Denver center Connor McGovern, each for about $9 million per year.
“What is worse, tying yourself to Le’Veon Bell for $27 million guaranteed, or tying yourself to Fant and McGovern for $31 million guaranteed?” an exec asked.
That depends upon one’s opinion of Fant and McGovern. The Jets apparently thought better of those two than others did, particularly concerning Fant.
“I like Fant as a third tackle,” another exec said, “and McGovern is OK.”
Fant was once considered the Seahawks’ left tackle of the future, but a serious knee injury prevented him from playing in 2017, resetting his trajectory. Seattle used him extensively as an additional lineman in a power scheme, but the Seahawks let both Fant and their starting right tackle, Germain Ifedi, depart.
“Fant is really like a developmental tackle,” another exec said. “I don’t think their line is fixed at all.”
Breshad Perriman’s acquisition on a deal averaging $6.0 million had the potential to become a cost-effective alternative to Robby Anderson, who left the Jets for Carolina. With Tampa Bay last season, Perriman was one of 83 NFL wideouts with at least 30 receptions. He ranked No. 1 among them in percentage of receptions gaining more than 15 yards.
“Perriman played well, and now he has to prove he can do it for a season,” a GM said, “It is always for four or five games with him.”
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I have it...here's the blurb on the Jets. It's not great.
Thanks man
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My only thought about that article:
Who the freak is Mike Sando?
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https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/04/belichick-loophole-nfl-rules
Vrabel doing it was one of the highlights of the season.
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Couldn't find a good place to put this, so I'm just going to put it here (Note: this isn't a lol)
Tarvaris Jackson died in a car accident.
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Couldn't find a good place to put this, so I'm just going to put it here (Note: this isn't a lol)
Tarvaris Jackson died in a car accident.
bojanglesman posted it today in the Obituary Thread (Pats Hater Parking Lot section). Sad news.
https://www.thejetoffensive.com/index.php/topic,181.msg365441.html#msg365441
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The obituaries thread? Basically anything that doesn't have "LOL" in the title was a better place.
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The obituaries thread? Basically anything that doesn't have "LOL" in the title was a better place.
BRB, renaming it to LOL Obituary Thread
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https://twitter.com/jayglazer/status/1250447018096394240?s=21
https://twitter.com/jayglazer/status/1250543581598605312?s=21
https://twitter.com/nflonfox/status/1250620932093288453?s=21
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This makes a fair amount of sense, probably the best plan I've heard for it yet.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-will-soon-be-moving-to-a-17-game-regular-season-schedule-and-heres-how-the-league-should-make-it-work/
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/05/07/pass-interference-replay-is-dead
The one freaking thing Adam Gase was actually any good at.
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How is Patrick Peterson not 30 yet?
It seems like hes been in the league for years
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Because he was born in July of 1990.
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How is Patrick Peterson not 30 yet?
It seems like hes been in the league for years
Got drafted age 20
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NFL
@NFL
We, the NFL, condemn racism and the systematic oppression of Black People. We, the NFL, admit we were wrong for not listening to NFL players earlier and encourage all to speak out and peacefully protest. We, the NFL, believe Black Lives Matter. #InspireChange
Better late than never.
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The fact that they actually released an apology for not listening to the players still blows my mind. Never thought I’d see that excrement.
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Wow. Maybe this really is a significant time in history and not just another false dawn.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jerryjeudy/status/1271156524807847936
I would literally tear every tendon in my knees
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jerryjeudy/status/1271156524807847936
I would literally tear every tendon in my knees
I can't wait to watch this guy in the NFL.
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Looks like a yellow jacket trapped in a bottle.
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Steiny time!
NFL practice squads were to expand from 10 to 12 players in 2020. Now, there’s internal talk about expanding to as many as 16 for greater roster flexibility for positive Covid tests, sources tell me and @judybattista. NFLPA would have to co-sign but that’s more jobs for players.
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https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1979108
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HOF game and enshrinement ceremony both cancelled.
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The NFLPA voted in favor of playing 0 preseason games this year
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The NFL has issued severe media restrictions for training camp.
Each team will be allowed only four pool reporters, none of whom will be allowed to tweet from practice. There are also significant, new restrictions on what can later be reported in articles. This has absolutely nothing to do with coronavirus safety and everything to do with a long-held NFL dream of limiting media access. It's counter-productive, as the more reporting and tweeting, the more interest there is in the product. It would be a great shame were these restrictions to remain in place following the COVID-19 pandemic.
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Can the team choose which four reporters are allowed in?
RIP Manish
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NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reports the league has proposed a $40 million reduction to the 2020 salary cap of $198.2 million.
The laughable proposal would necessitate widespread veteran releases and contract re-negotiations. You can probably guess the NFLPA's response: "Lol." The union wants to spread the hit out over multiple future seasons. As Profootballtalk's Mike Florio points out, the players have zero obligation to negotiate the 2020 cap. The "mutual duty to bargain" does not kick in until 2021. It is entirely predictable that the league is trying to spread out the unforeseen losses, something it would never do with unforeseen gains. As was the case with Major League Baseball's coronavirus negotiations, this has the potential to get ugly in a hurry. It is mind boggling that the process was not ramped up sooner.
I don't see how this can even be real as it's that obscene
Regardless the nfl is asking for major trouble here, and if there's any truth to this, it makes it all the more likely we don't see a season on time
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ROGER GOODELL
COM, NFL
ESPN's Dan Graziano reports the NFL salary cap "could drop by up to $70 million" in 2021 due to reduced revenues stemming from the coronavirus.
Player and staff safety are the top priorities for the NFL right now, especially with training camp set to begin by the end of July, but once the fine details are ironed out on that front, the league and the player's association have to negotiate finances. The owners want the salary cap to be cut as soon as possible. The players, of course, would like to see the reduced salary cap spread out for as long as possible. Because the players are taking on safety risks, you'd think they have more leverage in these negotiations, but this likely will take weeks to sort out. The NFL remains on course to play Week 1 as scheduled, just without fans. Despite record-high COVID-19 cases in "hot spots", team doctors believe the players are safe to report to training camp right now.
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dcm's dream
less cap space
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dcm's dream
less cap space
Would be a nightmare for players needing contracts, and blessing for those who need to get out of them
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Would be a nightmare for players needing contracts, and blessing for those who need to get out of them
How is it a blessing? A bad contract comes with dead cap. which means cutting the guy simply won't be wise to free up $2 million by killing $10 million in dead cap. If anything those contracts will be even more protected since you can't have any room for dead weight.
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How is it a blessing? A bad contract comes with dead cap. which means cutting the guy simply won't be wise to free up $2 million by killing $10 million in dead cap. If anything those contracts will be even more protected since you can't have any room for dead weight.
Unless they make them all post June 1st cuts
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Unless they make them all post June 1st cuts
Under current rules only one per team is allowed, and then the dead cap still exists just spread over two seasons instead of in one.
Spreading it over 2 seasons helps but it’s not like the 2022 cap is gonna pop back up above what the 2020 cap was
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Under current rules only one per team is allowed, and then the dead cap still exists just spread over two seasons instead of in one.
Spreading it over 2 seasons helps but it’s not like the 2022 cap is gonna pop back up above what the 2020 cap was
Still if teams have to drop 70 million in 2021 that's essentially an extra 70 million the follow year if it reverts to 2020.
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The NFLPA reports its membership has had 95 positive tests for COVID-19.
That is 3.2 percent of the workforce before hardly anyone has even reported for training camp and mandatory testing. It underscores the widespread nature of the disease, as well as the challenges a contact sport with massive rosters and personnel groups is going to face in containing it.
I said it back in April, this league year isn't happening.
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Not a great start
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It's actually 59, not 95.
Still not a great start
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This league should not happen this season.
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https://overthecap.com/nfl-asks-for-175m-2021-salary-cap/
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A lot of vets will be out of work next year if that happens
So sick of billionaires crying poverty. The NFL is going to make money hand-over-fist via TV revenue if games are played. If COVID doesn't slow down, what else is there going to be to do but watch games?
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freak the owners.
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A lot of vets will be out of work next year if that happens
So sick of billionaires crying poverty. The NFL is going to make money hand-over-fist via TV revenue if games are played. If COVID doesn't slow down, what else is there going to be to do but watch games?
Yes listening to guys in their 20s who make more money than 99.99% of people will in their lifetimes cry poverty is much better than billionaires.
They're all a bunch of whiny bitches. Especially after listening to Jamal cry and pout about how unfairly he is treated
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Nobody talks excrement about billionaires on dcm's watch.
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Nobody talks excrement about billionaires on dcm's watch.
Or maybe to mere mortals the difference between someone worth 50 million and 5 billion is negligible
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Yes listening to guys in their 20s who make more money than 99.99% of people will in their lifetimes cry poverty is much better than billionaires.
They're all a bunch of whiny bitches. Especially after listening to Jamal cry and pout about how unfairly he is treated
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Deal is all agreed between NFL and the players. Football season is happening.
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On an interesting note Chad Johnson admits he used to take viagra before every game.
It's kind of odd the nfl never tested for that, despite testing for excrement like Adderall and what not.
Makes you wonder what other kinds of PEDs are allowed under nfl rules that give an unfair competitive advantage
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DCM really wants to talk about players getting erections.
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Ok, I'll bite, what's the on field advantage of taking Viagra? I can only think of downsides.
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Ok, I'll bite, what's the on field advantage of taking Viagra? I can only think of downsides.
Viagra and Cialas are super common PEDs.
They don't give you erection, they make it easier for you to get an erection. Because they are vasodilators.
Sure there's all kinds of bullshit products on the market that do this, but these are prescription drugs.
I doubt there's any scientific research on what kind of impact it would have on elite athletes, but I also doubt there's any research on the impact of Adderall for elite athletes either.
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Well for someone without ADHD, Adderall is just an upper so that one made sense.
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So many injuries
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhAK0l2XgAIMmR8?format=jpg&name=large)
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https://twitter.com/backaftathis/status/1310646638445199362?s=21
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The best part of that clip “into the wind, the wind is in his face”
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The Raiders were up 15-0 with one second to go before half time. It's an awesome call because the only way it can backfire is if it falls short and the returner runs through literally your entire team, and if it somehow works you become legend.
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Gruden was responsible for far dumber excrement that FG attempt.
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Put that in a dome and I'm 69% sure he at least had the distance on it.
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Put that in a dome and I'm 69% sure he at least had the distance on it.
Depends on how many beers he had in him at that point.
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https://frontofficesports.com/nflpa-president-tretter-calls-for-nfl-teams-to-remove-artificial-turf/
If I recall correctly, when we released Kris Jenkins he said that he would only go to a team that had a grass field, and when he didn't get an offer from he chose to retire rather than play on turf again.
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NFL fucked up by not trying to bubble.
Yikes
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https://twitter.com/pff_seth/status/1314611267965984770?s=21
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https://twitter.com/pff_seth/status/1314611267965984770?s=21
Did people in the 30s just have zero athleticism?
They look like players in Madden with 0 Awr.
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https://twitter.com/pff_sucks/status/1315409301981351936?s=21
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NFL canceled the Pro Bowl. I know this is tough news to hear, but everyone please try to contain your disappointment.
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Did people in the 30s just have zero athleticism?
They look like players in Madden with 0 Awr.
free cigarettes on the bench era
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My daughter just saw Roger Goodell on TV and thought he was Conan O'Brien
"It's the silly guy!"
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https://twitter.com/katierosman/status/1328698671190466560?s=21
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Larry Fitzgerald got rona. Maybe we can have an outbreak to end the season early before we win a game. Seal that tank.
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Larry Fitzgerald got rona. Maybe we can have an outbreak to end the season early before we win a game. Seal that tank.
Oh excrement that's not good, the elderly are at much higher risk. Hope he's being properly cared for.
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nfl.com has always been a dogshit site, but this season they revamped it for mobile and made it dog-who-only-eats-rotten-cheese dogshit.
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Oh excrement that's not good, the elderly are at much higher risk. Hope he's being properly cared for.
Rudy just cartwheeled out of the hospital, Fitzgerald will be fine in days if not hours.
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Houston Texans
@HoustonTexans
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The Texans have met with Louis Riddick to interview for the General Manager role.
Sounds like Riddick is the "rooney rule patsie" for the GM searches in 2020. He's also got interviews lined up with other teams (Lions too i believe).
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The Houston Texans have a Chaplain running things. As a Jew I hope the Jets hire the Pope. This way he can exorcise the freaking demons that are plaguing this team.
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The Houston Texans have a Chaplain running things. As a Jew I hope the Jets hire the Pope. This way he can exorcise the freaking demons that a plaguing this team.
This would just result in the Pope getting AIDS
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The Houston Texans have a Chaplain running things. As a Jew I hope the Jets hire the Pope. This way he can exorcise the freaking demons that are plaguing this team.
Might as well bring in Anton LaVey to make sure we're covering all angles.
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Might as well bring in Anton LaVey to make sure we're covering all angles.
No I feel that satan is working hard enough on the Jets or maybe he isn't.
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Might as well bring in Anton LaVey to make sure we're covering all angles.
Dark horse candidate: Xenu
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Dark horse candidate: Xenu
We’d get some elite health enforcement.
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We’d get some elite health enforcement.
"Blake Cashman, out, thetans"
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"Blake Cashman, out, thetans"
That might be the only thing he hasn't been reported for on the injury report. Pretty sure last week was syphilis.
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https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1350556420991823874
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Alright, I'm getting really damn tired of these media personalities posting clips of Eric Bieniemy interviewing on Zoom with the press and saying things like:
"This sure doesn't sound like a guy that interviews poorly!"
Do they just not understand that a HC interview isn't THAT kind of interview. If he's been passed over three years in a row, it's because his plan just isn't clicking with whoever he's presenting it to.
Yeah, it freaking sucks that we don't have more black head coaches in the NFL...but c'mon.
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Alright, I'm getting really damn tired of these media personalities posting clips of Eric Bieniemy interviewing on Zoom with the press and saying things like:
"This sure doesn't sound like a guy that interviews poorly!"
Do they just not understand that a HC interview isn't THAT kind of interview. If he's been passed over three years in a row, it's because his plan just isn't clicking with whoever he's presenting it to.
Yeah, it freaking sucks that we don't have more black head coaches in the NFL...but c'mon.
Maybe he's too black.
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Maybe he's too black.
I blame Bill Cosby
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Alright, I'm getting really damn tired of these media personalities posting clips of Eric Bieniemy interviewing on Zoom with the press and saying things like:
"This sure doesn't sound like a guy that interviews poorly!"
Do they just not understand that a HC interview isn't THAT kind of interview. If he's been passed over three years in a row, it's because his plan just isn't clicking with whoever he's presenting it to.
Yeah, it freaking sucks that we don't have more black head coaches in the NFL...but c'mon.
Yeah but Andy Reid says he's really good.
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Justice for Coach Beans
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Justice for Coach Beans
21 fart salute
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Nfl expected to have a 17 game season next year
Makes me wonder how this impacts players contracts, and if this is why the nfl cap hasn't gone down like expected
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Nfl expected to have a 17 game season next year
Makes me wonder how this impacts players contracts, and if this is why the nfl cap hasn't gone down like expected
do you sit at home and stare at the NFL salary cap 24/7?
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do you sit at home and stare at the NFL salary cap 24/7?
17 million
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
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1m
NFL salary cap this season will be $182.5 million.
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Apparently the Eagles are proposing that the league introduce a rule that allows a team to opt to have a single 15 yard down (i.e. a 4th and 15 play) instead of a kick off. I think I quite like this idea, onside kicks are virtually impossible to make succeed nowadays so two score games are effectively over with anything less than 2 minutes on the clock.
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The onside kick is useless now because there's too many "defenseless" players involved.
Teams used to be able to have headhunters on those recovery teams that would just murder potential recovery players. Now you can't hit them the same way.
It's an outdated rule/tactic.
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https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1382027411773038596?s=21
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Teams will be able to wear alternative helmets for 2021, but it's too late for teams to submit/trot out alternate unis for 2021 so some teams e.g. the Tampa Bay Bucs wouldn't wear their throwback white & orange Creamsicle helmets until 2022 - Florio (on Pro Football Talk this a.m.)
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https://twitter.com/jessicaktx/status/1415028616988082182?s=21
This thread is amazing
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31827687/2-nfl-teams-remain-50-vaccination-rate
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Al Riveron retired. I'd say that's a good thing but they'll only manage to find someone who is somehow worse.
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https://twitter.com/RickGosselin9/status/1440773631248781320?s=19
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Without a breakdown of the penalties doesn't mean much.
I assume at least 150 rushing the passers (or other personal fouls) are called each weekend. With probably 45 defensive holding.
And then the occasional nonsense to round it out
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I assume at least 150 rushing the passers
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Typo, but also seemingly a penalty these days
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So the Colts are looking to trade Marlon Mack.
I would look into that in a second. We need more help all over the offense and he’s a guy that would be an upgrade over Ty Johnson by a lot, assuming he is healthy again of course
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https://twitter.com/kevinmdraper/status/1448139296859299841?s=21
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Some of these are funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssc8f3PS9Uc&ab_channel=HighlightHeaven
"53's the Mike!"
"No I'm not!"
"53 is Mike!"
"I'M NOT THE MIKE!"
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NFL really needs to get its excrement sorted out on these RTP calls, they're astonishingly stupid.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1450119472421949440
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NFL really needs to get its excrement sorted out on these RTP calls, they're astonishingly stupid.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1450119472421949440
Given he barely touched him, that’s as bad as I’ve ever seen. I still contend the first 3rd down play of Quincy Williams on Matt Ryan was a textbook hit and that affected the entire game after that horrid flag
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Al Michaels is expected to retire after the Super Bowl. Please, please take Collinsworth with you.
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Al Michaels is expected to retire after the Super Bowl. Please, please take Collinsworth with you.
Hes not...Tirico is being paired with Collinsworth next season.
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Hes not...Tirico is being paired with Collinsworth next season.
Oh FFS
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https://twitter.com/schwartzsteins/status/1491191811226075138?t=A7GHEz57P_jI-iIBtwCGmQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/schwartzsteins/status/1491191811226075138?t=A7GHEz57P_jI-iIBtwCGmQ&s=19
I liked this set up in the XFL. I hope the NFL picks it up.
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Oops
https://youtu.be/wd1kIOC4twI?t=190
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Oops
https://youtu.be/wd1kIOC4twI?t=190
That was kind of awesome.
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That was kind of awesome.
Yeah. It's not network TV so no rules were broken, and the GMFB crew are all great so no cancelation required.
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Kyle Brandt got his start on MTV's The Real World
Must see TV back in 2002
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Field Yates
@FieldYates
Most consecutive seasons as their current team's starter:
Aaron Rodgers: 14
Derek Carr: 8
Dak Prescott: 6
No one else is at more than 4. There's been a ton of QB turnover of late.
#NotForLong
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ESPN's Kevin Seifert reports there is "wide agreement among NFL decision-makers that their 2021 standard for taunting penalties should largely remain in place moving forward."
NFL executive vice president of football operations Troy Vincent confirmed this week that the league would continue its crackdown on taunting -- a universally reviled policy among fans that is generally supported by coaches and NFL decision makers. Refs called 61 taunting penalties during the 2021 regular season, the most in at least the past 20 years. The league seems most concerned with players standing over opponents after a play and approaching the opposing sideline in a threatening manner. NFL games will continue to be affected by post-play taunting in 2022 and beyond.
There was a "standard?"
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33617341/nfl-says-all-teams-add-minority-offensive-coach-expands-rooney-rule-include-women
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NFL stepping it up to get as woke as the NBA
I bet by 2030 nfl teams will be required to have at least one female QB on the roster
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NFL stepping it up to get as woke as the NBA
I bet by 2030 nfl teams will be required to have at least one female QB on the roster
Sweet strawman MJ
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Or, and hear me out here, it's the NFL paying for the team to have an extra coach on offense, like an intern. Which seems like a bit of a no lose proposition, and potentially a big win.
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Or, and hear me out here, it's the NFL paying for the team to have an extra coach on offense, like an intern. Which seems like a bit of a no lose proposition, and potentially a big win.
That's why I like it. It's not taking a job from anyone and they realized the best opportunities for job growth is through offense so they are implementing people on that side of the ball.
It's a foot in the door to make connections
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Or, and hear me out here, it's the NFL paying for the team to have an extra coach on offense, like an intern. Which seems like a bit of a no lose proposition, and potentially a big win.
It's not about who is paying for it
Its like some kind of quota/affirmative action on crack.
I get it, nfl coaches are disproportionately white men and isn't reflective of the racial breakdown of the league.
But the nfl also doesn't reflect the racial makeup of this country either.
Let's exclude heterosexual white men because obviously everyone knows they're all Nazis.
When's the last time you saw the nfl doing anything to make rosters more inclusive of homosexuals, Hispanics, Asians or transgenders?
Hell how does the argument make sense that nfl staffs need to be more reflective of the general player base, while also including women in these quotas? What about including the obese or disabled in these coaching pools?
I just don't find it reasonable to take this race based excrement to an extreme level, and to me thats what this is.
You know what I'd be cool with that would likely achieve the racial diversity nonsense that the nfl is trying to accomplish here.
Make this mandatory strawman coaching assistant position thing instead of race based make it former player based.
That way it will almost certainly improve racial diversity among coaches, while not being being based on the color of your skin.
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I'd be on board for every team having to hire a tranny. Only the woman turning to a man kind though, because of the testosterone supplements causing roid rage. That excrement would be wild.
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Sweet strawman MJ
zomg, that's totally something I'd say!
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I'd be on board for every team having to hire a tranny.
Only the woman turning to a man kind though, because of the testosterone supplements causing roid rage. That excrement would be wild.
I want to speak to the general manager
There once was a hermaphrodite kid
who said to a man from Madrid,
'why you son of a maggot
do you think I'm a ffaggot,
just go fvck yourself!'
So he did.
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It's not about who is paying for it
Its like some kind of quota/affirmative action on crack.
I get it, nfl coaches are disproportionately white men and isn't reflective of the racial breakdown of the league.
But the nfl also doesn't reflect the racial makeup of this country either.
Let's exclude heterosexual white men because obviously everyone knows they're all Nazis.
When's the last time you saw the nfl doing anything to make rosters more inclusive of homosexuals, Hispanics, Asians or transgenders?
Hell how does the argument make sense that nfl staffs need to be more reflective of the general player base, while also including women in these quotas? What about including the obese or disabled in these coaching pools?
I just don't find it reasonable to take this race based excrement to an extreme level, and to me thats what this is.
You know what I'd be cool with that would likely achieve the racial diversity nonsense that the nfl is trying to accomplish here.
Make this mandatory strawman coaching assistant position thing instead of race based make it former player based.
That way it will almost certainly improve racial diversity among coaches, while not being being based on the color of your skin.
Dude. Who hurt you?
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Dude. Who hurt you?
Why isn't it okay to think?
Literally you could achieve the desired result by mandating the requirement to be either a former player OR a woman.
Instead it's a policy that some jobs should be race based only
I'm okay with the end but it doesn't justify the means
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things like the rooney rule are certainly imperfect solutions to the problem of dumb white men being awful, mainly because dumb white people whine about any perceived challenge
it's not actually supposed to be "reflective" of excrement, it's a bandaid for the fact that dumb rednecks are too biased and racist for this magical post racial "meritocracy" you're imagining where no one mentions race so as not to make you uncomfortable
oh when oh when will woke society stop forcing us to include qualified minorities for coaches and judges and whatnot instead of doing the right thing and letting all the positions go to the fat white trumpers who really deserve it
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I'd be on board for every team having to hire a tranny. Only the woman turning to a man kind though, because of the testosterone supplements causing roid rage. That excrement would be wild.
Assistant Special Teams Coordinator Buck Angel
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Why isn't it okay to think?
Literally you could achieve the desired result by mandating the requirement to be either a former player OR a woman.
Instead it's a policy that some jobs should be race based only
I'm okay with the end but it doesn't justify the means
I actually like your idea.
The ramblings of unfairness beforehand is just whataboutism
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things like the rooney rule are certainly imperfect solutions to the problem of dumb white men being awful, mainly because dumb white people whine about any perceived challenge
it's not actually supposed to be "reflective" of excrement, it's a bandaid for the fact that dumb rednecks are too biased and racist for this magical post racial "meritocracy" you're imagining where no one mentions race so as not to make you uncomfortable
oh when oh when will woke society stop forcing us to include qualified minorities for coaches and judges and whatnot instead of doing the right thing and letting all the positions go to the fat white trumpers who really deserve it
Lol, you never fail in posting the most vitriolic, stupid excrement possible.
I actually like your idea.
The ramblings of unfairness beforehand is just whataboutism
It's absolutely not whataboutism. People are being precluded from NFL funded opportunity based on nothing but a race based classification.
It's classic discrimination.
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OT rules amended for postseason
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1508843615845589008?t=rd3eC39J1TtnkoGoplIgRw&s=19
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Jason La Canfora
@JasonLaCanfora
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1m
NFL overtime rules changing for playoffs only. Both teams guaranteed a possession. League press conference to follow
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It's absolutely not whataboutism. People are being precluded from NFL funded opportunity based on nothing but a race based classification.
It's classic discrimination.
It's no different to a scholarship for black kids or kids from disadvantaged backgrounds. Of course it's discrimination, but you're educated enough to know that discrimination is a massively wide term that applies to all sorts of things in life, most of them legal and even desirable.
No one is being held out of an opportunity that doesn't currently exist for them. Some people are being presented with a new opportunity that didn't previously exist. No one is losing out on anything, there is only net gain.
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It's no different to a scholarship for black kids or kids from disadvantaged backgrounds. Of course it's discrimination, but you're educated enough to know that discrimination is a massively wide term that applies to all sorts of things in life, most of them legal and even desirable.
No one is being held out of an opportunity that doesn't currently exist for them. Some people are being presented with a new opportunity that didn't previously exist. No one is losing out on anything, there is only net gain.
It absolutely is different from those things.
This isn't a scholarship, this is a job. This is the same as posting a job with a sign saying whites only.
The nfl could have achieved this through better ways like I suggested, easily.
Instead they wanted to be do this presumably to adjust perception after the Flores situation. It's still the wrong way to achieve a reasonable goal
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It absolutely is different from those things.
This isn't a scholarship, this is a job. This is the same as posting a job with a sign saying whites only.
The nfl could have achieved this through better ways like I suggested, easily.
Instead they wanted to be do this presumably to adjust perception after the Flores situation. It's still the wrong way to achieve a reasonable goal
No, it absolutely is not.
The NFL is effectively funding an internship for a year. At the end of the year they will presumably review the program, but my guess (if there are more details available I haven't seen them) is that teams can either hire those offensive coaching interns because they like them, or they can say "I don't have a job for you but I'll gladly give you a great reference to other teams", or they can shake their hand and walk away. Any which way, there will be 32 more experienced offensive coaches of colour who are now either working in football or with the experience of doing so.
This is an internship. I realise that a lot of the time and in a lot of industries interns are treated as minimum wage gofers who should just consider themselves lucky to be entrusted with coffee orders and dry cleaning and that somehow they'll parlay that into a career because they'll learn so much about their chosen industry simply by osmosis, but what the NFL is doing is how internships are actually supposed to work.
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No, it absolutely is not.
The NFL is effectively funding an internship for a year. At the end of the year they will presumably review the program, but my guess (if there are more details available I haven't seen them) is that teams can either hire those offensive coaching interns because they like them, or they can say "I don't have a job for you but I'll gladly give you a great reference to other teams", or they can shake their hand and walk away. Any which way, there will be 32 more experienced offensive coaches of colour who are now either working in football or with the experience of doing so.
This is an internship. I realise that a lot of the time and in a lot of industries interns are treated as minimum wage gofers who should just consider themselves lucky to be entrusted with coffee orders and dry cleaning and that somehow they'll parlay that into a career because they'll learn so much about their chosen industry simply by osmosis, but what the NFL is doing is how internships are actually supposed to work.
Why choose to consider this rationally when instead you can cry that the NFL is discriminating against hypothetical countless qualified individuals in favor of schizophrenic BIPOC trans-womxn?
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No, it absolutely is not.
The NFL is effectively funding an internship for a year. At the end of the year they will presumably review the program, but my guess (if there are more details available I haven't seen them) is that teams can either hire those offensive coaching interns because they like them, or they can say "I don't have a job for you but I'll gladly give you a great reference to other teams", or they can shake their hand and walk away. Any which way, there will be 32 more experienced offensive coaches of colour who are now either working in football or with the experience of doing so.
This is an internship. I realise that a lot of the time and in a lot of industries interns are treated as minimum wage gofers who should just consider themselves lucky to be entrusted with coffee orders and dry cleaning and that somehow they'll parlay that into a career because they'll learn so much about their chosen industry simply by osmosis, but what the NFL is doing is how internships are actually supposed to work.
They literally already have this, it's called the bill walsh diversity coaching fellowship.
If my understanding of the details are off, please feel free to correct me. But my understanding is that the NFL has in effect mandated that every offensive staff in football have a coach deemed to be a minority. Not that they hire an NFL funded offensive assistant that's the equivalent of an intern, simply a quota.
That's absolutely a job as opposed to an internship and though we can banter about discrimination being acceptable, it's naturally going to shut out qualified candidates because of their skin color and deprive them of opportunity.
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No, it absolutely is not.
The NFL is effectively funding an internship for a year. At the end of the year they will presumably review the program, but my guess (if there are more details available I haven't seen them) is that teams can either hire those offensive coaching interns because they like them, or they can say "I don't have a job for you but I'll gladly give you a great reference to other teams", or they can shake their hand and walk away. Any which way, there will be 32 more experienced offensive coaches of colour who are now either working in football or with the experience of doing so.
This is an internship. I realise that a lot of the time and in a lot of industries interns are treated as minimum wage gofers who should just consider themselves lucky to be entrusted with coffee orders and dry cleaning and that somehow they'll parlay that into a career because they'll learn so much about their chosen industry simply by osmosis, but what the NFL is doing is how internships are actually supposed to work.
Let's call it an internship then.
Do you think it's appropriate for internships to be based on the color of your skin?
Again I'm completely cool with the desired outcome, I just don't think discrimination is the way to achieve it. There are countless ways you could accomplish this without saying all teams need to hire a mandatory minority.
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If my understanding of the details are off, please feel free to correct me. But my understanding is that the NFL has in effect mandated that every offensive staff in football have a coach deemed to be a minority. Not that they hire an NFL funded offensive assistant that's the equivalent of an intern, simply a quota.
Because the NFL is funding it I believe it's an additional offensive coach for each team, not just paying the wages of an existing one. I can't believe there are that many teams who don't have at least one minority coach on their offensive staff already - we've got three (Miles Austin, Ron Middleton and Taylor Embree). I doubt the NFL is just picking up the tab for one of them, and I equally doubt they're going to pay for an extra coaching hire on any team that doesn't have a minority offensive coach currently while not giving anything to those teams that do.
Let's wait for the details and see though.
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Let's call it an internship then.
Do you think it's appropriate for internships to be based on the color of your skin?
Again I'm completely cool with the desired outcome, I just don't think discrimination is the way to achieve it. There are countless ways you could accomplish this without saying all teams need to hire a mandatory minority.
Yes, of course I do. If a section of society is under represented in a particular field it makes absolute sense to make efforts to try and rectify that. It's no different than the initiatives to get more women into STEM fields and boardrooms.
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Yes, of course I do. If a section of society is under represented in a particular field it makes absolute sense to make efforts to try and rectify that. It's no different than the initiatives to get more women into STEM fields and boardrooms.
So what kind of effort should the nfl make about player representation which looks absolutely nothing whatsoever like the societal population?
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So what kind of effort should the nfl make about player representation which looks absolutely nothing whatsoever like the societal population?
Since so much of that relies on things that the NFL does not control, very little.
Ton the other hand,.te NFL can control how much money and effort they put forth to recruit interested female coaches.
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So what kind of effort should the nfl make about player representation which looks absolutely nothing whatsoever like the societal population?
I assume you're referring to the fact that 70% of NFL players are black but only 13% of all Americans are? If so then it's a good question, we'll have to have a good think about whether white men are unfairly discriminated against in the college ranks or that NFL teams unfairly gravitate towards drafting black players, and figure out what we do about it.
To echo my point to MJ of earlier: discrimination is not per se bad, unfair discrimination is. It's entirely reasonable for an NFL team to discriminate against someone because they don't run as fast as someone else, or because their hands are too small, or because they can't bench press a family car. This is reasonable discrimination.
If you think that white men are not being given a fair opportunity to shine as football players because of the colour of their skin then you should absolutely take that cause up with the NFL.
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It's absolutely not whataboutism. People are being precluded from NFL funded opportunity based on nothing but a race based classification.
It's classic discrimination.
The race that holds 93.7% of head coaching jobs is being discriminated against...
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Since so much of that relies on things that the NFL does not control, very little.
Ton the other hand,.te NFL can control how much money and effort they put forth to recruit interested female coaches.
I assume you're referring to the fact that 70% of NFL players are black but only 13% of all Americans are? If so then it's a good question, we'll have to have a good think about whether white men are unfairly discriminated against in the college ranks or that NFL teams unfairly gravitate towards drafting black players, and figure out what we do about it.
To echo my point to MJ of earlier: discrimination is not per se bad, unfair discrimination is. It's entirely reasonable for an NFL team to discriminate against someone because they don't run as fast as someone else, or because their hands are too small, or because they can't bench press a family car. This is reasonable discrimination.
If you think that white men are not being given a fair opportunity to shine as football players because of the colour of their skin then you should absolutely take that cause up with the NFL.
Let's ignore white men, because they make for a poor argument and I'd rather go for low hanging fruit
Hispanics make up for almost 20% of the American population yet 0.5% of the nfl player base.
You say the nfl can't control these things, surely there are plenty of Hispanic college football players.
Why not add two roster spots exclusively for college drafted Hispanic players only while they're on rookie contracts? Or better yet for non white non African American players?
Because diversity isn't the NFLs goal, hoping on this BLM publicity bandwagon is.
Hell I'd rather see the nfl add roster spots in this regard to at least give young dudes a chance, rather than this current policy which is in my opinion racist
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Let's ignore white men, because they make for a poor argument and I'd rather go for low hanging fruit
Hispanics make up for almost 20% of the American population yet 0.5% of the nfl player base.
You say the nfl can't control these things, surely there are plenty of Hispanic college football players.
Why not add two roster spots exclusively for college drafted Hispanic players only while they're on rookie contracts? Or better yet for non white non African American players?
Because diversity isn't the NFLs goal, hoping on this BLM publicity bandwagon is.
Hell I'd rather see the nfl add roster spots in this regard to at least give young dudes a chance, rather than this current policy which is in my opinion racist
lmao
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Hispanics make up for almost 20% of the American population yet 0.5% of the nfl player base.
You say the nfl can't control these things, surely there are plenty of Hispanic college football players.
Google tells me that 2.7% of college football players are Hispanic, so the problem starts there. It's good that you've identified it though, and you'll be pleased to know that the conversation has already begun.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2020/10/14/barriers-latinos-power-5-football-told-hispanic-players/3589170001/
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Google tells me that 2.7% of college football players are Hispanic, so the problem starts there. It's good that you've identified it though, and you'll be pleased to know that the conversation has already begun.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2020/10/14/barriers-latinos-power-5-football-told-hispanic-players/3589170001/
Maybe the statistic I read was off but it stated 0.5% of nfl players identified as Latino
Regardless the numbers both make the same argument.
Honestly going off topic but it does seem like all things BLM has completely overshadowed every and all things Hispanic in this country. And by that I mean it seems that black caucus seems to advocate and have a exponentially more effective PR/political influence in this country
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Maybe the statistic I read was off but it stated 0.5% of nfl players identified as Latino
Regardless the numbers both make the same argument.
Honestly going off topic but it does seem like all things BLM has completely overshadowed every and all things Hispanic in this country. And by that I mean it seems that black caucus seems to advocate and have a exponentially more effective PR/political influence in this country
So that means we shouldn't focus on any inequality?
Also the rule is for any minority race and women included
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So that means we shouldn't focus on any inequality?
Also the rule is for any minority race and women included
Yes the rule for coaching is that
And it ignores the biggest racial inequality in the league.
The under representation of Hispanics.
And the players are the face of the league which has far reaching consequences on culture acorss the entirety of this nation
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Because the NFL is funding it I believe it's an additional offensive coach for each team, not just paying the wages of an existing one. I can't believe there are that many teams who don't have at least one minority coach on their offensive staff already - we've got three (Miles Austin, Ron Middleton and Taylor Embree). I doubt the NFL is just picking up the tab for one of them, and I equally doubt they're going to pay for an extra coaching hire on any team that doesn't have a minority offensive coach currently while not giving anything to those teams that do.
Let's wait for the details and see though.
Speaking on this though, they've already said that there are teams already compliant. I'd assume we're one of them. That would make me assume this isn't a created position, but a quota.
The race that holds 93.7% of head coaching jobs is being discriminated against...
It's absolutely amazing that you accused me of arguing via strawman earlier in this thread (when I wasn't even involved in the discussion you absolute hoo-ha) and this was your takeaway. The more intelligent and non strawman argument would be the one below, so maybe take a freaking note.
To echo my point to MJ of earlier: discrimination is not per se bad, unfair discrimination is. It's entirely reasonable for an NFL team to discriminate against someone because they don't run as fast as someone else, or because their hands are too small, or because they can't bench press a family car. This is reasonable discrimination.
I agree. It would be totally unfair on the other hand to discriminate based on skin color.
We're not going to convince the other whether or not the overriding interest of ensuring there are more black head coaches in the league is worth discriminating against others via a race based classification, but I can at least acknowledge the merit of the cause and the argument. I don't really feel like getting into the whole discussion as to whether this needs to be forced or if nature is going to take its course in terms of the rise of more minority candidates, and even on that front I'm willing to invite the possibility that progress as I define it is taking too long.
Between the minority coaching fellowship, and the attempt to incentivize teams for placing minority candidates in a position to be promoted via draft compensation (which for the record I still maintain might actually hurt a candidate in a specific situation, namely being hired in the division), the Rooney Rule has been bolstered to ensure that there's going to be a much more healthy pipeline of minority candidates to choose from in future hiring cycles. But people want instant gratification now. This isn't going to change next years hiring pool, so I look forward to the same discussion about how we don't have enough minority head coaches as if this is something that gets "fixed" overnight. And honestly, I put fixed in quotes because I don't know what that means. What's the percentage that makes everyone happy?
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Maybe the statistic I read was off but it stated 0.5% of nfl players identified as Latino
Regardless the numbers both make the same argument.
Honestly going off topic but it does seem like all things BLM has completely overshadowed every and all things Hispanic in this country. And by that I mean it seems that black caucus seems to advocate and have a exponentially more effective PR/political influence in this country
I would love it if you learned to read.
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It's absolutely amazing that you accused me of arguing via strawman earlier in this thread (when I wasn't even involved in the discussion you absolute hoo-ha) and this was your takeaway. The more intelligent and non strawman argument would be the one below, so maybe take a freaking note.
I know you didn't post it. It was a joke.
How is my stat a strawman. Dcm is claiming discrimination when clearly the outcomes are not discriminant against white people.
The nfl didn't say new offensive assistants can't be white. They added an internship at a private company to increase the diversity of their hiring pool
It's hilarious how the same people who yell MUH RIGHTS
Are the same people that telling others how they should run their private business.
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I know you didn't post it. It was a joke.
How is my stat a strawman. Dcm is claiming discrimination when clearly the outcomes are not discriminant against white people.
The nfl didn't say new offensive assistants can't be white. They added an internship at a private company to increase the diversity of their hiring pool
It's hilarious how the same people who yell MUH RIGHTS
Are the same people that telling others how they should run their private business.
Equity isn't equal opportunity dude.
Literally by your same logic you could suggest the nfl is discriminatory because of the racial breakdown of its players. It's not a race thing.
And oh the well nobody should tell a private organization how to run their private business.
What about these stupid freaking homophobic cake shops that want to refuse gay weddings? They get obliterated because it's freaking discrimination.
Literally the only people to use the word internship is you and JE. the nfl is calling it a hiring mandate, which is exactly that.
I will still bang the drums saying you can get the desired outcome without these discriminatory policies
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Literally by your same logic you could suggest the nfl is discriminatory because of the racial breakdown of its players. It's not a race thing.
This is the funniest thing I've heard all day.
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This is the funniest thing I've heard all day.
Obviously the nfl isn't discriminating and building its rosters based on race (but this won't stop the debate about black QB's from coming up every few years)
But the point was you don't have to intervene with policies based on the color of your skin everytime there's not equity of outcome
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But the point was you don't have to intervene with policies based on the color of your skin everytime there's not equity of outcome
No one here is saying you must intervene everytime equity outcome doesn't exist. No one is even saying you always need to intervene when equity of opportunity doesn't exist.
The vast majority of players in the nfl are black
The vast majority of coaches are not black
Most coaches make their way via friends and family ties
Most owners are old money and hire in the same way
Most minorities do not have those ties
The nfl and players think the current processes are not allowing them to advance in coaching like they should be.
Th nfl wants to change that process to try and get their coaches to be more representative of their players.
It's not a big deal.
It's not set in stone. Changes can and will be made.
The nfl is not going to ban all white coaches.
It's a nice attempt to fix something they feel is a problem.
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Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll called out NFL owners during the league's meetings last week in Florida, saying the hiring of minority candidates won't improve until owners accept that there are candidates out there different than themselves, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Monday.
Carroll spoke for about 10 minutes during a meeting of general managers and coaches last Tuesday in Palm Beach. His comments came a day after the league announced that all 32 NFL teams must hire a minority offensive assistant coach for the 2022 season.
The longtime Seahawks coach, though, told the group that such policies will never be enough until the owners themselves change.
"He just went off," a source told Schefter of Carroll's comments in the meeting. "He was saying, you can do anything but until owners get to know these candidates before the actual interviews and understand that they have to hire people who are different than them, it's not going to really change."
Via ESPN
Caroll lecturing nfl owners for not hiring anyone who doesn't look like them despite the fact that for 12+ years none of his OCs have been anything but white dudes
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Brian Flores has company
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1512103446048034822
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https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1516109567461105664?t=lO9f37s4x9hz_MGV-T5RUQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1516109567461105664?t=lO9f37s4x9hz_MGV-T5RUQ&s=19
What does that mean for consumers?
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What does that mean for consumers?
First spanking, then the oral sex.
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What does that mean for consumers?
If it's Apple exclusive were all fucked
I can't think of a single company more willing to blatantly price gouge consumers
Purely pulling this out of my derriere here, but I imagine if Apple gets exclusive you're gonna see a historic crackdown on nfl piracy
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If it's Apple exclusive were all fucked
I can't think of a single company more willing to blatantly price gouge consumers
Purely pulling this out of my derriere here, but I imagine if Apple gets exclusive you're gonna see a historic crackdown on nfl piracy
Apple will only own the rights to US broadcasts, so I don't see how they'd have any standing to go after someone streaming the broadcast from Canada or the UK. That would need CTV or DAZN or Sky to take action, I think.
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I may regret saying it, but I can't imagine it being worse than Directv's fuckery. Don't get me wrong, Apple won't miss a chance to separate you from your dollar. I don't expect it to be cheaper or anything, but at least you won't have to buy a goddamn satellite dish like it's still 1998.
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I may regret saying it, but I can't imagine it being worse than Directv's fuckery. Don't get me wrong, Apple won't miss a chance to separate you from your dollar. I don't expect it to be cheaper or anything, but at least you won't have to buy a goddamn satellite dish like it's still 1998.
You've been able to get nfl ticket without a satellite dish for years
They might be a satellite company but they offer it as a streaming only package
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DirecTV gave me Sunday Ticket for free last season so I can definitely imagine worse things.
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if you have a college family member you can use their email to get a full season of sunday ticket streaming for like 90 bucks. great deal imo. im sure if apple holds sunday ticket they'd keep that sort of deal for the foreseeable future
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Ravens announced they signed former Navy linebacker Diego Fagot, who now gets to stay in the area.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1528729646375657472
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33983514/judge-denies-nfl-motions-dismiss-jon-gruden-lawsuit-move-arbitration%3fplatform=amp
Gruden seemingly refusing to settle with the league
There will be mud
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Helmet condoms now required at training camps.
https://www.fox6now.com/sports/guardian-caps-nfl-training-camps-head-injuries (https://www.fox6now.com/sports/guardian-caps-nfl-training-camps-head-injuries)
Undeniably a good thing, but they do look hilarious.
(https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox6now.com/www.fox6now.com/content/uploads/2022/06/764/432/NFL-Guardian-Caps.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUu9cVBXEAAzGEA?format=jpg&name=large)
Mushroom Kingdom NFL
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Helmet condoms now required at training camps.
https://www.fox6now.com/sports/guardian-caps-nfl-training-camps-head-injuries (https://www.fox6now.com/sports/guardian-caps-nfl-training-camps-head-injuries)
Undeniably a good thing, but they do look hilarious.
(https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox6now.com/www.fox6now.com/content/uploads/2022/06/764/432/NFL-Guardian-Caps.jpg)
all this needs is a tiny satellite dish to complete the Death Star look
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(https://www.denofgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/millennium-falcon.jpg)
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No more Game Pass.
https://theathletic.com/news/nfl-streaming-service-nfl-plus/u6nTvZxyksmG/
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https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1556283496322269187?t=F0t4kxG-kmk-lvTgn2XVTw&s=19
Helmet to helmet rule tweaked.
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https://twitter.com/J_Nubz/status/1558230769667297280?t=BY5tHr3X72XmdDDPsvRBmA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/J_Nubz/status/1558230769667297280?t=BY5tHr3X72XmdDDPsvRBmA&s=19)
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If cancel culture is really a thing then please explain this. Make sure you listen all the way to the end.
https://youtu.be/WC8Elk1LRjs
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https://twitter.com/PeteHaileyNBCS/status/1568980539939475456?t=PN0P-zAzIx9otNK0SPfWQg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/PeteHaileyNBCS/status/1568980539939475456?t=PN0P-zAzIx9otNK0SPfWQg&s=19)
freaking nailed it.
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https://twitter.com/Hoonic0rn/status/1569332202256711682?t=TCU48038n7CPbi2w3LxlLQ&s=19 (https://twitter.com/Hoonic0rn/status/1569332202256711682?t=TCU48038n7CPbi2w3LxlLQ&s=19)
Never not seeing that.
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If cancel culture is really a thing then please explain this. Make sure you listen all the way to the end.
https://youtu.be/WC8Elk1LRjs
Enjoy tonight’s Chief’s - Chargers tilt
Seriously though, while I have Amazon Prime (because every other Yankee game’s seemingly only on there), just another reason why the NFL blows...
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/chargers-at-chiefs-thursday-game-wont-be-on-tv-why-amazon-prime-is-the-only-way-youll-be-able-to-watch/amp/
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Enjoy tonight’s Chief’s - Chargers tilt
Seriously though, while I have Amazon Prime (because every other Yankee game’s seemingly only on there), just another reason why the NFL blows...
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/chargers-at-chiefs-thursday-game-wont-be-on-tv-why-amazon-prime-is-the-only-way-youll-be-able-to-watch/amp/
I'm in Canada, it's on my regular cable sports network as well as my $20 a month streaming service that carries every single game of the NFL season.
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https://apnews.com/article/nfl-sports-football-las-vegas-peyton-manning-be4b3060b1d077923f630a86fe554fe1
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The Skills Competition is fun
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I'm good with it. The Pro Bowl has been an unwatchable two hand touch game for years now anyway.
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https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/1575487631097413636?s=20&t=4LmyfT0Me9zaDKgSLx0RDw (https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/1575487631097413636?s=20&t=4LmyfT0Me9zaDKgSLx0RDw)
Highlights:
"I don't know much about welfare but I know we'll fare a lot better as a society if we get back to a little thing I like to call accountability" as a response to him being investigated for the theft of money marked to help feed needy families so he could build a volleyball court for his daughter's college volleyball team.
"It's like ya'll can't have me sending messages [of his penis]on my phone trying to hook up with a young woman [while his wife is recovering from cancer], but you don't want me trying to help them out either."
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Trying to take away my constitution
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"This is all off the record by the way" lmao
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"This is all off the record by the way" lmao
You’d think he’d have enough experience with the press to know how that worked by now.
Or is that just some excrement Peter King let him pull all of the time?
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https://twitter.com/nocontxtanncr/status/1575657733797183488?s=21&t=Ert87QaYmZYgHCqfynD5zQ (https://twitter.com/nocontxtanncr/status/1575657733797183488?s=21&t=Ert87QaYmZYgHCqfynD5zQ)
Whoopsie
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https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1575909474434531337
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A quarter of the way into the second season (season!) of the jabronis who coded nfl.com not being able to display rookie stats in game pages. Astonishing incompetence.
(https://i.imgur.com/ggejnp4.png)
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https://mobile.twitter.com/mikepereira/status/1579648110359621632?s=46&t=xQ9VBUFoqs4DYdL5lfcIbQ
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https://apnews.com/article/NFL-roughing-the-passer-refs-1c8cd57c8ff7a8de2004e19860c55741
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https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1582436012340707328
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https://twitter.com/Danny_Heifetz/status/1586724967399526407?t=wxif1uzh2G04ejqZX9NWmQ&s=19 (https://twitter.com/Danny_Heifetz/status/1586724967399526407?t=wxif1uzh2G04ejqZX9NWmQ&s=19)
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Today the Commanders, the Eagles & the Jets all played in all-black uniforms.
Did I miss anyone?
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https://twitter.com/search?q=odell+beckham+plane&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Esearch
https://twitter.com/obj/status/1596883494889668609?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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WTF are those links?
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Matt Araiza cleared of the gang rape charges looking forward to "continuing NFL career"
ATTN: Cleveland Browns: special teams money on the table
https://twitter.com/jlsports3/status/1600659383955906562
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This thread is perfectly named for this story.
https://apnews.com/article/nfl-sports-8614bec5f59d111e775d4b5a17055225
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https://twitter.com/JBFlint/status/1605344790354153472?t=xvGSVnGatiA7rtcGfUdXvw&s=19
Sunday Ticket to YouTube TV?
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https://twitter.com/JBFlint/status/1605344790354153472?t=xvGSVnGatiA7rtcGfUdXvw&s=19
Sunday Ticket to YouTube TV?
Whatever destroys this freaking NFL+ bullshit. It is god freaking awful
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Whatever destroys this freaking NFL+ bullshit. It is god freaking awful
I havent really dicked around with nfl+ but I think on Verizon they just offered a year of that with 12 months of Netflix for like 30$ or something?
No freaking idea what's included in it, but considering everyone has Netflix it's a decent chance to mess around with nfl +
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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1605931672326746114
The NFL has announced that it reached a multi-year deal with Google giving YouTube TV and YouTube Primetime channels exclusive rights to NFL Sunday Ticket in the United States beginning next season.
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Looks like it'll be an add-on, which is good. Wish you could pick a team and pay less but I get it. Maybe you will be able to buy individual games. I haven't read the whole press release yet.
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If Googles investing this kind of money, surely they have to be doing some kind of rework of YouTube TV?
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If Googles investing this kind of money, surely they have to be doing some kind of rework of YouTube TV?
Why? Just make it an add-on like HBO and charge whatever the price ends up being. No need to change the base plan.
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Why? Just make it an add-on like HBO and charge whatever the price ends up being. No need to change the base plan.
I'd assume that the real profit of spending billions on nfl Sunday ticket is to drive consumers to your subscription services
AFAIK YouTube TV has like 5 million costumers
Meanwhile the nfl has something like 100 million unique viewers week 1?
Offering an add-on package is great, but the value for YouTube TV will be in substantially driving up your base
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I'd assume that the real profit of spending billions on nfl Sunday ticket is to drive consumers to your subscription services
AFAIK YouTube TV has like 5 million costumers
Meanwhile the nfl has something like 100 million unique viewers week 1?
Offering an add-on package is great, but the value for YouTube TV will be in substantially driving up your base
Will you be able to add it without being a YouTube TV customer?
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Will you be able to add it without being a YouTube TV customer?
I would imagine so. It’s probably going to be discounted for YTTV but they’d be crazy to not have a way for non YTTV people to pay for and subscribe to NFL games.
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Will you be able to add it without being a YouTube TV customer?
No way it's a mandatory. It's currently optional now via direct TV so I don't see them changing that.
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CNN saying it can be purchased without a YTTV subscription
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Will you be able to add it without being a YouTube TV customer?
I know nothing
But smart business would say they're going to want to encourage people to do both
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35348861/cardinals-david-blough-nfl-64th-starting-qb-2022
Blough and the Las Vegas Raiders' Jarrett Stidham will become the 63rd and 64th quarterbacks to have started an NFL game this season, tying a non-strike record set in 2007. The only other NFL season with more starting quarterbacks was the 1987 strike year, when there were 87 different starters.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35348861/cardinals-david-blough-nfl-64th-starting-qb-2022
Blough and the Las Vegas Raiders' Jarrett Stidham will become the 63rd and 64th quarterbacks to have started an NFL game this season, tying a non-strike record set in 2007. The only other NFL season with more starting quarterbacks was the 1987 strike year, when there were 87 different starters.
averages out to Tua team
*sorry*
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London teams for 2023 confirmed as being Bills, Titans and Jags. Germany teams will be Chiefs and Patriots.
Assuming all 5 of those are home teams, we could get the Bills or Patriots. We don't have the Titans or Jags as opponents next year and we have the Chiefs but it's at home.
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London teams for 2023 confirmed as being Bills, Titans and Jags. Germany teams will be Chiefs and Patriots.
Assuming all 5 of those are home teams, we could get the Bills or Patriots. We don't have the Titans or Jags as opponents next year and we have the Chiefs but it's at home.
I love that it's the Jags every year.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fmz1R38aEAAwpdz?format=jpg&name=small)
this is insane
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fmz1R38aEAAwpdz?format=jpg&name=small)
this is insane
Insane as in you disagree, or insane as in how the 262nd pick is actually better than Dak in some areas? (FWIW I'm not convinced he is but I don't know which one I'd back right now.)
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Insane as in you disagree, or insane as in how the 262nd pick is actually better than Dak in some areas? (FWIW I'm not convinced he is but I don't know which one I'd back right now.)
It's insane that these players are being compared and that these cornball analysts are overhyping Brock Purdy like this.
I wanted the Niners to make a Super Bowl run at the start of the playoffs but now I just want this QB to get smoked. The Brady comparisons are such a joke.
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Brock Purdy: 20 year playoff staple and health industry grifter LFG!!!!!!
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https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1618238388158763009?s=20&t=7wKqqN5njGLApVFurKwwlQ
I don't care what Purdy's record is...he shouldn't be a finalist. Olave got rekt.
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(https://i.redd.it/wncanwhaowea1.png)
Some of these are dumb and some of them are absolutely brilliant. The Falcons and Titans should make the switch immediately. The Rams should really embrace Baphomet in their next logo design.
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(https://i.redd.it/wncanwhaowea1.png)
Some of these are dumb and some of them are absolutely brilliant. The Falcons and Titans should make the switch immediately. The Rams should really embrace Baphomet in their next logo design.
What is this excrement?
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What is this excrement?
My eyes are bleeding
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What is this excrement?
NFL logos reimagined in the style of Star Wars. It's very nerdy, but some of them are good. I won't pretend to know what they all are.
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The X-Wing is an upgrade.
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The X-Wing is an upgrade.
wanted to post this lol. as goofy as the concept is, that logo is better than the bubble-type 'Jets' lettering behind a goofy looking football that we have now
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Several of these are actually huge upgrades for teams.
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Vegas is good as well because it works on multiple levels.
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Vegas is good as well because it works on multiple levels.
Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that. Raiders, desert.
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Excited for this, every time the NFL bans something else it just makes football even more fun.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/03/nfl-plans-active-offseason-conversation-about-eliminating-hip-drop-tackles/
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I think when you start doing fuckery like this you gotta do it over years not an offseason
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NGL, if I ran NFL Films I would totally do this. Which is one of the many reasons I do not run NFL Films.
https://nypost.com/2023/02/28/nfl-films-maintained-database-of-cheerleaders-buttocks-breasts-and-cleavage-shots-lawsuit/
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So the TLDR is people who get paid to be mostly naked showing off their bodies on TV
Are suing because they're on film mostly naked showing off their bodies, for which they were employed to do
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TLDR
Clearly.
(The NFL's explanation is perfectly sensible, but it's not this and the whole story has nothing to do with cheerleaders suing anyone.)
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Clearly.
(The NFL's explanation is perfectly sensible, but it's not this and the whole story has nothing to do with cheerleaders suing anyone.)
Yeah, the only issue is if the good ol boys at NFL Films were using it as a spank bank. Not sure how this woman, who supposedly doesn't have access to the films, would have known about it unless someone mentioned (bragged about?) it.
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Yeah, the only issue is if the good ol boys at NFL Films were using it as a spank bank. Not sure how this woman, who supposedly doesn't have access to the films, would have known about it unless someone mentioned (bragged about?) it.
This is exactly how this happened.
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NYJ: Flight Crew
NOT identified in the lawsuit
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Cheddar_Cheerleader.JPG/320px-Cheddar_Cheerleader.JPG)
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Tidbits from the 2023 Combine
https://theathletic.com/live-blogs/nfl-combine-live-results-schedule-new/53n0YfF2iiYm/?amp=1
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Some officiating "retirements" today.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1631398908411691012 (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1631398908411691012)
Steven Patrick played for the Commanders (https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesotavikings/comments/ypvhgk/jim_ross_reacts_to_back_judge_steve_patricks_hit/) this season. Jerome Boger is Jerome Boger. I don't know what the other two guys did but both their daddies were also NFL refs, so it must have been bad.
Boger's kid is a ref too, what a nepotistic shitshow this league is. I guarantee someone's dropout nephew is responsible for nfl.com.
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https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1640790101616918529
Nothing interesting by the looks of it, specifically they don't seem to have adopted the Rams' proposal to make RTP reviewable.
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The number one rule change I'd like to see is any called personal foul being challengable.
Nothing pisses freaking fans off more than refs determing the outcomes of games. I understand the increase being related to player safety, so at least give teams a way to combat the most egregious
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The number one rule change I'd like to see is any called personal foul being challengable.
Nothing pisses freaking fans off more than refs determing the outcomes of games. I understand the increase being related to player safety, so at least give teams a way to combat the most egregious
Was actually proposed and withdrawn, presumably because they didn't have the votes.
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1640788241157857285
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Also, the NFL announced that teams can now play TNF twice in a season.
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1640849428566396928
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https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1640870392968667136
Vote on flexing games to TNF was tabled until May. This is an astonishingly bad idea - when we plan our tailgate games we do so months in advance, and people book flights and hotels on non-refundable deals. Mara is very much on the right side of the argument here.
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https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1640870392968667136
Vote on flexing games to TNF was tabled until May. This is an astonishingly bad idea - when we plan our tailgate games we do so months in advance, and people book flights and hotels on non-refundable deals. Mara is very much on the right side of the argument here.
What percentage of nfl attendees are not some permutation of local?
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What percentage of nfl attendees are not some permutation of local?
Probably 10-20%
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Probably 10-20%
I would guess especially in NY. People doing a road game are more likely to pick NYC with its abundance of flights and neverending list of things to see and do on a weekend than a lot of other cities.
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I would guess especially in NY. People doing a road game are more likely to pick NYC with its abundance of flights and neverending list of things to see and do on a weekend than a lot of other cities.
You can certainly make that argument.
But a team like the Jets which has NY/jeresey/CT with populations in the 10s of millions also means you have ridiculous amounts of fans who are within a several hour (day trip) radius
But you point out the major point, of there being the number of road fans for every matchup
Presumably with a fair number of them being not within commuting distance
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https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1642921458044207104
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https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1642921458044207104
Jesus that’s way too close. That’s a horrible idea to flex games into Thursday night.
Also freak the owners that abstained on an issue this big. Screw all of that nonsense
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If they were two votes short, then some owners must have voted for it. freak knows why.
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I'm not an avid Thursday night night football watcher as the majority of the games are freaking garbage matchups
But if this could potentially make TNF entertaining, I would support it
Especially if you're not regularly going to games which the vast majority of fans are not.
For people actually going to the games it would freaking suck for sure
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I'm not an avid Thursday night night football watcher as the majority of the games are freaking garbage matchups
But if this could potentially make TNF entertaining, I would support it
Especially if you're not regularly going to games which the vast majority of fans are not.
For people actually going to the games it would freaking suck for sure
As valid as the argument for 17 games.
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I'm not an avid Thursday night night football watcher as the majority of the games are freaking garbage matchups
But if this could potentially make TNF entertaining, I would support it
Especially if you're not regularly going to games which the vast majority of fans are not.
For people actually going to the games it would freaking suck for sure
Never plan on going to a marquee matchup after the “flex” date for Thursday games.
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As valid as the argument for 17 games.
With 17 games you can make stronger arguments about player safety, diminished product, injuries etc.
The downside of this is much less
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Never plan on going to a marquee matchup after the “flex” date for Thursday games.
Again first and foremost this is an issue for people attending the games, but benefits the rest.
For context the 2nd highest attended nfl team last year (which I think was the freaking jets?) averages just under 70,000 attendees. The highest watched regular season game was over 40 million, the average nfl game had 17 million viewers.
You clearly need to cater to the home viewers not the in person.
But I do think it's reasonable and capable for the nfl to use their brain.
Maybe make half of a teams home games not flexible to Thursday night football, and have that information published upon release of the nfl schedule. Plus surely there will be contractual dick wagging where networks won't want to give up every single good game.
I don't think the goal needs to be having the best game of every week on TNF. I just think the goal needs to be minimizing excrement like having the colts 4th string QB going against the Panthers 5th string QB and this excrement being the only TNF game of the week
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Again first and foremost this is an issue for people attending the games, but benefits the rest.
For context the 2nd highest attended nfl team last year (which I think was the freaking jets?) averages just under 70,000 attendees. The highest watched regular season game was over 40 million, the average nfl game had 17 million viewers.
You clearly need to cater to the home viewers not the in person.
But I do think it's reasonable and capable for the nfl to use their brain.
Maybe make half of a teams home games not flexible to Thursday night football, and have that information published upon release of the nfl schedule. Plus surely there will be contractual dick wagging where networks won't want to give up every single good game.
I don't think the goal needs to be having the best game of every week on TNF. I just think the goal needs to be minimizing excrement like having the colts 4th string QB going against the Panthers 5th string QB and this excrement being the only TNF game of the week
The point is those 70,000 loyal fans are buying tickets and that is NOT an insignificant amount of revenue. How much money do they have to “give back” to those fans since they can no longer attend the event that was previously scheduled? How many tickets sales are ultimately lost and not able to be resold when that game is rescheduled with ten days lead time?
Owners aren’t just giving up ticket sales, but also parking, beer, food, merchandise sales. In stadium sponsorships aren’t worth as much if there isn’t a full house etc. that’s money directly out of ownership pockets.
Do the owners still make more money in tv stuff? Of course. But why give up money when you don’t have to? Sure it might suck to have Chris Strevler getting big minutes in a Thursday night game. But the NFL is still making money hand over fist for those prime time games.
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The point is those 70,000 loyal fans are buying tickets and that is NOT an insignificant amount of revenue. How much money do they have to “give back” to those fans since they can no longer attend the event that was previously scheduled? How many tickets sales are ultimately lost and not able to be resold when that game is rescheduled with ten days lead time?
Owners aren’t just giving up ticket sales, but also parking, beer, food, merchandise sales. In stadium sponsorships aren’t worth as much if there isn’t a full house etc. that’s money directly out of ownership pockets.
Do the owners still make more money in tv stuff? Of course. But why give up money when you don’t have to? Sure it might suck to have Chris Strevler getting big minutes in a Thursday night game. But the NFL is still making money hand over fist for those prime time games.
I think this is why you ultimately have a compromise where only half of home games are flexible (or some other permutation)
I think in most major markets where you have 10s of millions of people within a few hours of the stadium, that you can easily fill most of those seats. Especially since again were talking about flexing some of the best games of the week.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nfl.com/_amp/peacock-becomes-home-of-first-ever-exclusive-live-streamed-nfl-playoff-game
NFL making it increasingly difficult for fans to watch a damn game
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NFL owners passed a vote to allow Thursday Night Football flex scheduling.
Thursday Night Football had been the only primetime spot not subject to flex scheduling late in the season. The passed vote allows the league to manipulate all primetime games late in the season, effectively removing the potential for poor matchups. It seems like another money grab idea predicated on satiating the paying broadcast companies after Amazon purchased the rights to Thursday Night Football for $1 billion this season. While there are strict rules in place as to which teams can flex into the Thursday Night Football game, the new rule could be viewed as detrimental to the competitive integrity of the game, particularly considering the increased magnitude of late season games.
Assholes.
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The 17 game NFL strikes again
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The 17 game NFL strikes again
"Stop making football less convenient" is a very different argument to "waaaah I don't want more football".
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Assholes.
I would never plan a road trip to a game in the flex window of weeks then.
Thursday night games usually suck as is for tons of reasons, this is just going to make more important games less fun to watch.
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The only way they stop pulling this excrement is if fans stop watching.
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Apparently the TNF flex rules are that it can only be done twice a season, can only happen in weeks 13-17, and has to be done at least 28 days in advance. So it's still dumb but not quite as dumb as it might have been - Rapoport thinks that it probably won't happen at all.
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They changed the fair catch on a kickoff rule. If a kickoff is fair caught outside the end zone, but less than the 25-yard line, the possession will start at the 25, rather than the spot of the fair catch.
Why even bother kicking off anymore? Just put the ball at the 25 immediately after the FG/PAT and be done with it.
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They changed the fair catch on a kickoff rule. If a kickoff is fair caught outside the end zone, but less than the 25-yard line, the possession will start at the 25, rather than the spot of the fair catch.
Why even bother kicking off anymore? Just put the ball at the 25 immediately after the FG/PAT and be done with it.
I feel like this has potential for abuse
There's been several times where you've seen smart kick returners put their foot out of bounds and field a kickoff so it counts as an illegal procedure.
To me this rule change seems like it could encourage teams to call fair catches inside the 25 while trying to draw an illegal procedure flag. As now the downside isn't being pinned wherever, but starting at the 25
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I feel like this has potential for abuse
There's been several times where you've seen smart kick returners put their foot out of bounds and field a kickoff so it counts as an illegal procedure.
To me this rule change seems like it could encourage teams to call fair catches inside the 25 while trying to draw an illegal procedure flag. As now the downside isn't being pinned wherever, but starting at the 25
That might be pushing it. The intent of the rule is to reduce the number of returns where the player is running, and therefore getting tackled. They're trying to reduce concussions, which is a noble cause.
I just think that at this point, just get rid of the kicks altogether.
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That might be pushing it. The intent of the rule is to reduce the number of returns where the player is running, and therefore getting tackled. They're trying to reduce concussions, which is a noble cause.
I just think that at this point, just get rid of the kicks altogether.
I'm not saying good or bad, I understand the goal
But I do see this as an opportunity for smart teams depending on how it's implemented
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The situation with all the top RBs and the franchise tag is interesting.
According to Sportrac the avg kicker makes more than the average running back. Presumably that's a little biased accounting for experience and depth of backs.
But will be interesting to see how the RBs play things out contractually going forward. And what we end up doing with Breece
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According to Sportrac the avg kicker makes more than the average running back. Presumably that's a little biased accounting for experience and depth of backs.
But will be interesting to see how the RBs play things out contractually going forward. And what we end up doing with Breece
I've seen that pop up a lot and I think it's a dumb point of comparison. All of those kickers are starters, likely the only kicker on their respective roster, and more than two thirds of those running backs are back-ups. Does Greg Zuerlein deserve more money than Bam Knight? I think he does.
I'll bet there are multiple positions where the average salary is less than the average kicker's salary.
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https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/
Honestly when it comes to averages ends up RB isn't much different from other positions where teams have a lot of depth.
I do think the fact that the top 3 backs couldn't reach deals will be the bigger story. I assume agents will figure out some way lervage teams in the near future
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Eliminate the franchise tag for all positions except QB
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Eliminate the franchise tag for all positions
Ftfy
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Eliminate the franchise tag for all positions except QB
As much as people hate the tag
It does so much to keep your favorite players on your team
I don't want nfl free agency to look like the NBA
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Ftfy
franchise kickers and punters
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/31/sports/football/nfl-conduct-policy-deshaun-watson.html
N.F.L. Increases Penalties for Sexual Misconduct in Light of Deshaun Watson’s Case
“The N.F.L. has changed its personal conduct policy, expanding the offenses that warrant more serious penalties to include sexual assault “involving threats or coercion” and including “a pattern of conduct” and “offenses that involve planning” as factors that could increase punishment.”
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This seems like a fairly big deal.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/new-personal-conduct-policy-opens-the-door-to-discipline-for-pre-nfl-misconduct
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This seems like a fairly big deal.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/new-personal-conduct-policy-opens-the-door-to-discipline-for-pre-nfl-misconduct
It'll be interesting to see if it results in lawsuits, but at the end of the day, we "average people" can be held accountable for our behavior before getting a job, even if it happened in the past.
This might result in some first-round talent going undrafted in the future.
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I wonder if there is a similar policy at NFL corporate and how well it is enforced.
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I wonder if there is a similar policy at NFL corporate and how well it is enforced.
Certainly isn’t a conduct policy for NFL owners.
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Ban the Cowboys from the postseason for that DWare anthem
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Ban the Cowboys from the postseason for that DWare anthem
Straight to GitMO.
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https://x.com/ReemBoi25/status/1703059712365998338?s=20
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https://nypost.com/2023/10/22/nfl-threatens-to-strip-teams-of-draft-picks-over-pregame-fighting/
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This is bullshit.
https://twitter.com/MikeDeFabo/status/1719372197276393780
What the freak else is he supposed to do here?
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This is bullshit.
https://twitter.com/MikeDeFabo/status/1719372197276393780
What the freak else is he supposed to do here?
soft derriere league
I always coached RB pass protection as "be the hammer, not the nail" - they are taking on players that are significantly bigger/strong. You aren't allowed to go low anymore, so you've gotta hit them right in the numbers.
that hit isn't putting anyone in danger
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This is bullshit.
https://twitter.com/MikeDeFabo/status/1719372197276393780
What the freak else is he supposed to do here?
I’m confused on what he even did wrong, he hit the guy in the numbers. How is that different than what an OL does to a blitzing LB every snap?
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I’m confused on what he even did wrong, he hit the guy in the numbers. How is that different than what an OL does to a blitzing LB every snap?
Initial contact was mid thigh. But if he hits in the numbers there he's getting trucked. It was a well executed and perfectly safe block, fining a guy who makes $800K a year $50K of it for that is garbage.
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Yea that's some bullshit.
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NFL: "We NEED to protect quarterbacks!!!"
Warren: *makes fundamentally sound pass protection block*
NFL: "Pay us sucker LMAO"
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I honestly have no idea what was wrong there and wouldn't have thought twice about it. Most Pro leagues are becoming Charmin soft, including the NHL.
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Maybe the NFL is behind on the light bill or something.
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I honestly have no idea what was wrong there and wouldn't have thought twice about it. Most Pro leagues are becoming Charmin soft, including the NHL.
I watched it multiple times trying to figure out what was wrong.
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https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1721254417658192280?t=jURXStG5Dq0Pbp66PulsjA&s=19
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https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1721254417658192280?t=jURXStG5Dq0Pbp66PulsjA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1721254417658192280?t=jURXStG5Dq0Pbp66PulsjA&s=19)
Lol this is just as bad as the one above.
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https://x.com/nfl_memes/status/1721597615219826806?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Ref freaky as hell
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https://x.com/nfl_memes/status/1721597615219826806?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Ref freaky as hell
Someone needs to watch the Daniel Tiger episode about personal boundaries.
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https://twitter.com/CoachDuggs/status/1725390061590421523?t=dkJrEXko1pNuBO9T460w-g&s=19
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May that stage collapse.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39104125/nfl-set-decide-2024-brazil-game-wednesday-source-says
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39104125/nfl-set-decide-2024-brazil-game-wednesday-source-says
Pretty hot there for football in-season, no? It's 82 in Sao Paulo as I write this post.
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I was curious about the international rights. Apparently the Jets have rights in the UK along with a bunch of others.
Australia: Los Angeles Rams
Brazil: Miami Dolphins
Canada: Minnesota Vikings, Seattle Seahawks
China: Los Angeles Rams
Germany: Carolina Panthers, Kansas City Chiefs, New England Patriots, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Mexico: Arizona Cardinals, Dallas Cowboys, Denver Broncos, Houston Texans, Kansas City Chiefs, Las Vegas Raiders, Los Angeles Rams, Pittsburgh Steelers, San Francisco 49ers
Spain: Chicago Bears, Miami Dolphins
United Kingdom: Chicago Bears, Jacksonville Jaguars, Miami Dolphins, Minnesota Vikings, New York Jets, San Francisco 49ers
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Pretty hot there for football in-season, no? It's 82 in Sao Paulo as I write this post.
One word: Brazilian Women
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One word: Brazilian Women
I'm married to one.
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I'm married to one.
Why the two identities JFIF?
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https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1735000875884515792
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https://x.com/chrislaw/status/1737582663555277212?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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https://x.com/thegamedaynfl/status/1743005487975600529?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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Is there going to be an Africa game?
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Is there going to be an Africa game?
Mississippi, best I can do
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I prefer an Antarctica game, that would be pretty fun.
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I prefer an Antarctica game, that would be pretty fun.
Make sure it's in winter too. 95 mph winds.
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I prefer an Antarctica game, that would be pretty fun.
I'm in for the North Korea tailgate in Pyongyang
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I'm in for the North Korea tailgate in Pyongyang
The roach motel of tailgates....you can check in but you don't check out.
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I'm in for the North Korea tailgate in Pyongyang
The roach motel of tailgates....you can check in but you don't check out.
Tailgate in the DMZ
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https://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1762876197665456635?s=20
i thought the Jets would be lower. Interesting
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https://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1762876197665456635?s=20
i thought the Jets would be lower. Interesting
Woody runs the team like excrement but by all indications he's not directly a bad guy to the FO, coaches, or players
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Interesting to see the Steelers that low.
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Dov Kleiman
@NFL_DovKleiman
The #NFL is rumored to be looking to push the NFLPA to extend the season to 18 regular season games, per @NBCSports
MOAR FOOSEBALL
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Dov Kleiman
@NFL_DovKleiman
The #NFL is rumored to be looking to push the NFLPA to extend the season to 18 regular season games, per @NBCSports
MOAR FOOSEBALL
Cons: further wear and tear on players, extending agony of bad seasons
Pros: more aesthetically pleasing number than 17
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Cons: further wear and tear on players, extending agony of bad seasons
Pros: more aesthetically pleasing number than 17
Con: they'll use it as an excuse to jack ST prices up
Pro: there will be more football to go to
Con: they'll use it as an excuse to have more international games
Con: they'll still use it as an excuse to jack ST prices up
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I assume 18 games would lead to two bye weeks for teams as well.
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More games for us to tank.
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More games for us to tank.
If you're good you want the playoffs to start. If you're bad you want the season to end.
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This seems shitty.
https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/cfp-saturday-conflict-puck.html
Saturday is college football. Sunday is NFL. If the NCAA leaves a Saturday open then by all means fill it, but trying to get them to play games on a day other than Saturday so they can have the broadcast slot is bullshit.
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Saturday is college football. Sunday is NFL.
this
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But why
https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/03/07/good-morning-football-moving-from-ny-to-la
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But why
https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/03/07/good-morning-football-moving-from-ny-to-la
Weirdsies.
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
The NFL has banned the hip-drop tackle, source said. The Competition Committee was unanimous on it.
soon they're gonna ban defense all together.
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Puck will be the only one watching NFL games when guys will be going around tickling each other in 5 years.
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More reason to take BROCK in the first round. Defensive backs won't be able to tackle him anymore.
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More reason to take BROCK in the first round. Defensive backs won't be able to tackle him anymore.
more reason to fire Saleh and bring in a real offensive-minded HC...since defense is basically useless now.
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This is the worst rule change in professional sports in at least a decade
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This is the worst rule change in professional sports in at least a decade
The NFLPA is livid right now, and i don't blame them.
This league is gonna suck so bad soon.
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some additional clarity:
Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo
Rich McKay making it clear multiple times there’s a difference between a hip-drop tackle and the swivel hip-drop tackle. The defensive player lifting himself off the ground and using his weight to fall on the offensive player is what they’re working to eliminate.
get ready for more bad, scrutinized calls from the refs.
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some additional clarity:
get ready for more bad, scrutinized calls from the refs.
I agree. What they are TRYING to eliminate isn't a bad idea, but what it will lead to will be cruddy.
Not sure if this is true, but...
NFL EVP of football ops Troy Vincent reiterated on a media call the hip-drop tackle is “something we want to get out the game.”
His message to players, whose union opposes a ban? “When you have a play that has a 20-25x injury rate, it doesn’t allow you to fulfill your dreams.”
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This is the worst rule change in professional sports in at least a decade
Really a stupid rule change. I get that it's not the safest tackle, but it's a contact sport, and you need to get guys down.
It will just lead to more controversial calls in big spots to frustrate everyone.
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More reason to take BROCK in the first round. Defensive backs won't be able to tackle him anymore.
And Braelon Allen in the third.
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The NFLPA is livid right now, and i don't blame them.
This league is gonna suck so bad soon.
It's gonna suck especially bad for teams that are only good at defense.
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Really a stupid rule change. I get that it's not the safest tackle, but it's a contact sport, and you need to get guys down.
It will just lead to more controversial calls in big spots to frustrate everyone.
I believe this was spearheaded by Jerry Jones, who was pissed about the Pollard injury
We're going to see DBs throwing their bodies into knees/shins/ankles even more now. Knee injuries and concussions will go up because of this rule.
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The consequences of more rules like this are all bad: more bad calls screwing up the flow of the game, further delays trying to figure out what the correct call is, inability of anyone to feel like they can play aggressively on defense without being thrown in the NFL gulag.
I'd rather see this type of change be a fine and not a game-altering thing. It may end up pussifying the game, but at least let the game keep going and not stopping every 3 seconds for a penalty or reversing a damn Jets pick 6.
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Apparently the replay official will now be able to overrule bad calls for certain penalties, including RTP. That has to be a good thing.
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Apparently the replay official will now be able to overrule bad calls for certain penalties, including RTP. That has to be a good thing.
I guess stopping the game is better than getting the call wrong, but how many stoppages are too many? Game feels like a sputtering engine.
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I guess stopping the game is better than getting the call wrong, but how many stoppages are too many? Game feels like a sputtering engine.
As long as they don't stop the game to ask for a review it shouldn't be bad. A replay official will have the same time viewers always do to see whether a call was egregious and then call down to stop the clock if needed. This is a great change, IMO. RTP and DPI calls have been so bad so many times.
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I don't think PI is included. RTP and grounding were the two I saw.
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As long as they don't stop the game to ask for a review it shouldn't be bad. A replay official will have the same time viewers always do to see whether a call was egregious and then call down to stop the clock if needed. This is a great change, IMO. RTP and DPI calls have been so bad so many times.
DPI calls were reviewable one year and it was terrible.
What we consider egregious and what refs consider egregious will undoubtedly be different and create more controversy.
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I think RTP shouldn't be too controversial and might stop that freaking pansy in Buffalo throwing himself to the floor every time a defensive end looks at him funny.
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Refs are not going to overturn shitty calls made by their crew members
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I think RTP shouldn't be too controversial and might stop that freaking pansy in Buffalo throwing himself to the floor every time a defensive end looks at him funny.
You really don't think it will be controversial? I think it would be even more controversial than the current system because there are a lot of RTP calls that are probably right by the letter of the law that fans hate. There will be a ton of flags that people think should be overturned but won't be. It will help sometimes, but it will end up resulting in more ref drama. And perhaps the NFL likes that.
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I don't think PI is included. RTP and grounding were the two I saw.
Well that sucks. Everything should be reviewable.
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Refs are not going to overturn shitty calls made by their crew members
But they already do. Replay fixes a lot of calls that 20-30 years ago just stood.
I'm sure the refs hate it when a call is overturned from a selfish standpoint, but it's better for the game overall when a bad call gets corrected.
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DPI calls were reviewable one year and it was terrible.
What we consider egregious and what refs consider egregious will undoubtedly be different and create more controversy.
Any time something gets added to replay there are growing pains. I stand firm on the belief that everything should be reviewable and it should be by people in a league office whose sole job is to review every single play immediately after it happens to ensure if a call needs further review, it gets it.
It's absolutely doable, and it would improve the game.
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
NFL owners voted to approve the new kickoff rule.
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You really don't think it will be controversial? I think it would be even more controversial than the current system because there are a lot of RTP calls that are probably right by the letter of the law that fans hate. There will be a ton of flags that people think should be overturned but won't be. It will help sometimes, but it will end up resulting in more ref drama. And perhaps the NFL likes that.
Possibly, but if it only overturns the most egregious flags then it's still an improvement on the current system that is allowing big name QBs to buy critical first downs.
I feel like I say this every offseason, but the change I would implement is an automatic 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike against any player asking for a flag to be thrown, either by words or motions.
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But they already do. Replay fixes a lot of calls that 20-30 years ago just stood.
For catches, fumbles, stepping out of bounds, etc. Those are not judgement calls with instant replay.
We saw what happened with the pass interference reviews. They are not going to make their crew members look bad on judgement calls.
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Possibly, but if it only overturns the most egregious flags then it's still an improvement on the current system that is allowing big name QBs to buy critical first downs.
It isn't the potential game changer that you may think.
They are only going to use it to review things on RTP like if a QB was actually hit in the helmet or if they QB was out of the pocket. We'll still see the soft calls and flops.
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I don't see any way that reviewing lots of calls wouldn't make games last 37 hours and stop every other play. I'd like to think some calls can be reviewed from NY without stoppage, but unless they have some crazy AI entity/bot that can determine calls on the fly, a lot of calls will require time to review and drag everything to a halt.
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Hold on to your hats
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1772627787574079988?t=L6rLdWF8ugj1yjOygcYsqg&s=19
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Hold on to your hats
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1772627787574079988?t=L6rLdWF8ugj1yjOygcYsqg&s=19
Lol, wow
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I don't see any way that reviewing lots of calls wouldn't make games last 37 hours and stop every other play. I'd like to think some calls can be reviewed from NY without stoppage, but unless they have some crazy AI entity/bot that can determine calls on the fly, a lot of calls will require time to review and drag everything to a halt.
If it’s done by a guy in the booth it can take 1-2 seconds for most plays. Just like the “every scoring play is reviewed” and “every turnover is reviewed” most of the time takes ten seconds and we often forget they are reviewed. Those guys have access to a replay faster than the broadcast audience gets to see one and is mostly done before anyone realizes.
Dont confuse that type of review with a coaches challenge of a play where the ref on the field runs under a hood and watches the replay from 11 angles and then we restart play. That won’t be what happens 80+% of the time. Most things are seen and adjusted quickly without issue. Assuming the NFL actually wants that to happen of course
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Hold on to your hats
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1772627787574079988?t=L6rLdWF8ugj1yjOygcYsqg&s=19
Largely pointless. I was hoping they’d push it to week 13, last quarter of the season to go…
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For catches, fumbles, stepping out of bounds, etc. Those are not judgement calls with instant replay.
We saw what happened with the pass interference reviews. They are not going to make their crew members look bad on judgement calls.
That's just stupid. MLB finally realized it's better to get it right. No one thinks any less of umpires now--not that anyone every thought highly of officials in the first place.
It's better to get it right. Games are won and lost on bad calls and there's no reason for it.
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If it’s done by a guy in the booth it can take 1-2 seconds for most plays. Just like the “every scoring play is reviewed” and “every turnover is reviewed” most of the time takes ten seconds and we often forget they are reviewed. Those guys have access to a replay faster than the broadcast audience gets to see one and is mostly done before anyone realizes.
Dont confuse that type of review with a coaches challenge of a play where the ref on the field runs under a hood and watches the replay from 11 angles and then we restart play. That won’t be what happens 80+% of the time. Most things are seen and adjusted quickly without issue. Assuming the NFL actually wants that to happen of course
Exactly this. Again, we see multiple angles of the same play just in the time the offense takes with the huddle. Replay "professionals" would be doing this all game long and I would think would only point significant misses. I'd expect some judgement to still stand when it's "close."
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Largely pointless. I was hoping they’d push it to week 13, last quarter of the season to go…
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
NFL is planning to play another game this year on Christmas Day, which is on a Wednesday. So a Wednesday Christmas Day game coming.
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
NFL is planning to play another game this year on Christmas Day, which is on a Wednesday. So a Wednesday Christmas Day game coming.
We were at home Xmas Eve last season, I will be pissed if we're home Xmas Day this year.
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Just play flag football from now on
Theyre basically just engineering arena football shootouts now and handicapping defenders every few years
Guys blow out ligaments doing non contact and we're gonna freak out about a few broken legs and ankles
It's football
I get trying to curtail CTE but this is dumb as hell
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Just play flag football from now on
Theyre basically just engineering arena football shootouts now and handicapping defenders every few years
Guys blow out ligaments doing non contact and we're gonna freak out about a few broken legs and ankles
It's football
I get trying to curtail CTE but this is dumb as hell
besides the obvious 'health' spin, it's obvious the nfl is using this to make the game more offense-oriented than it already is. defenders won't be able to make some of the tackles they are routinely making right now to get stops.
more breakaways, more yards, more points. more excitement, more money in the nfl's mind
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Also, CTE doesn't cause a problem for gamblers and fantasy players the way that torn ACLs and sprained ankles do. So it's obvious which one is a bigger issue.
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If they want to make more plays reviewable to get more things correct, and it doesn't slow the game down much more, I'm OK with that. I'm skeptical it wouldn't slow the game down though.
However, I think it would end up causing more controversy, not less controversy. People will still argue about calls. Most RTP fouls are in a grey area and aren't that cut-and-dry.
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If they want to make more plays reviewable to get more things correct, and it doesn't slow the game down much more, I'm OK with that. I'm skeptical it wouldn't slow the game down though.
However, I think it would end up causing more controversy, not less controversy. People will still argue about calls. Most RTP fouls are in a grey area and aren't that cut-and-dry.
They should make it clear that play stoppage and further review will only be for plays considered reasonable doubt.
A crew in the league office seeing the immediate replays should be able to determine pretty quickly whether something should remain the judgment call that was made, or warrants further review.
We see it every Sunday when former refs say on the broadcast whether a call will likely stand or not on replay. Some calls would still be questionable but they'd get a lot more right.
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https://operations.nfl.com/updates/the-game/the-eagles-will-open-the-2024-season-in-brazil-on-friday-night-of-week-1/
The NFL announced that the Philadelphia Eagles will play as the designated team in the first regular season game in Brazil, as part of the 2024 International Games. The game will be played on Friday, Sept. 6, the first time the NFL has played a game on Friday night of its opening weekend in more than 50 years (St. Louis Cardinals at Los Angeles Rams, Sept. 18, 1970).
The game will take place in São Paulo at the Corinthians Arena. The Eagles' opponent and kickoff time will be announced closer to the 2024 NFL schedule revealed.
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This is going to make Badger angry.
https://twitter.com/sharpfootball/status/1783902269299130420?s=46
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I don't like giving up President's Day weekend. I've always hoped the US would make Super Bowl Monday a holiday of its own. But that was never gonna happen.
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I love getting another real game though!
One more shot at a meaningless win every year.
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This is going to make Badger angry.
https://twitter.com/sharpfootball/status/1783902269299130420?s=46
No it's not. 17 is a hideous number. Day after SB being a holiday is a huge plus. 16 was already a perfect number so going to 17 was awful, but the move from 17 to 18 is basically lateral.