Jet Offensive
The Rest Of The Sports World => You Don't Know Football => Topic started by: Badger on March 19, 2015, 08:24:52 AM
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/18/jed-york-49ers-got-away-from-core-strengths-under-jim-harbaugh/
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they need to get back to coaching/locker room speeches with their pants around their ankles.
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This was posted in another thread a while ago but it belongs in here now.
http://deadspin.com/new-49ers-coach-jim-tomsula-mumbles-and-huffs-his-way-t-1680004518
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We needed this thread a few months earlier.
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they need to get back to coaching/locker room speeches with their pants around their ankles.
Skidmarks have to be involved somewhere.
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Skidmarks have to be involved somewhere.
*pulls down pants*
"It is more about them than it is about the team. Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win."
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http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/03/12/49ers-fans-reselling-seat-licenses-for-thousands-less-than-they-paid-a-year-ago/
freak PSLs
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I don't understand why you're so offended by PSLs.
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I don't understand why you're so offended by PSLs.
It's a double charge for no additional goods or services. It's a scummy practice.
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It's a double charge for no additional goods or services. It's a scummy practice.
Not really, it's like a debenture at a golf club. You can recover the money by selling it on, so it isn't a charge per se. At worst it's a forced purchase of an asset.
The alternative would be making tickets more expensive.
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Not really, it's like a debenture at a golf club. You can recover the money by selling it on, so it isn't a charge per se. At worst it's a forced purchase of an asset.
Everyone loses money on PSLs. They are a terrible investment. PSL agreement language states they are not to be treated as an investment, but that hasn't stopped every team from advertising them as such.
The alternative would be making tickets more expensive.
False dilemma.
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Not really, it's like a debenture at a golf club. You can recover the money by selling it on, so it isn't a charge per se. At worst it's a forced purchase of an asset.
The alternative would be making tickets more expensive.
I don't think that last part is true. You think anyone who might go to one NFL game a season is gonna pay 300 bucks for a nosebleed seat in November? I don't.
PSL's are just penalties for being too invested in the team.
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I don't think that last part is true. You think anyone who might go to one NFL game a season is gonna pay 300 bucks for a nosebleed seat in November? I don't.
PSL's are just penalties for being too invested in the team.
No, I don't either. Which is why PSLs are probably unavailable if you want a brand new $1.5B stadium for your team.
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Although having said that, I just did some rough math off the top of my head. Let's say the Jets and Giants sold 50,000 PSLs at an average of $3000 each, that's $150M towards the stadium costs. Assuming 16 games in a season at the Meadowlands and 90,000 at each game, that's 1,440,000 tickets per season. You'd only need to put $10 on each ticket for ten years to recover close to the same amount. I guess PSLs have the advantage of giving you a significant amount of short term cash though.
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PSLs were legal robbery.
Between that, hiding concussion truths, how they treat retired NFL players, and Rodger freaking Goodell, this league can eat a dick.
I wish fanbases had enough people to boycott PSLs.
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PSLs were legal robbery.
Between that, hiding concussion truths, how they treat retired NFL players, and Rodger freaking Goodell, this league can eat a dick.
I wish fanbases had enough people to boycott PSLs.
Majority of fans just watch on TV and don't give two shits about ticket prices or psls.
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Although having said that, I just did some rough math off the top of my head. Let's say the Jets and Giants sold 50,000 PSLs at an average of $3000 each, that's $150M towards the stadium costs. Assuming 16 games in a season at the Meadowlands and 90,000 at each game, that's 1,440,000 tickets per season. You'd only need to put $10 on each ticket for ten years to recover close to the same amount. I guess PSLs have the advantage of giving you a significant amount of short term cash though.
All PSLs serve to do is remove real fans from stadiums. You get left with a bunch of slap dick Manhattan playboys in the prime seats and luxury boxes who ask you to sit down when cheering
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Or top stop cursing....... Hey freak you it's football.
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Serious Herm vibes
http://deadspin.com/jim-tomsula-compares-8-8-season-to-sandwich-might-just-1693151956
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So does he get fired after his first season or midway through his second?
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My boss coached with Tomsula at Catawba College. He hates the guy, but he is an unbearable prick himself so...
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My boss coached with Tomsula at Catawba College. He hates the guy, but he is an unbearable prick himself so...
You're an unsufferable douche yourself, so according to the transitive property Tomusula and your coach are probably both stand up guys.
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You're an unsufferable douche yourself, so according to the transitive property Tomusula and your coach are probably both stand up guys.
most likely
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So does he get fired after his first season or midway through his second?
I think he makes it through his first.
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You're an unsufferable douche yourself, so according to the transitive property Tomusula and your coach are probably both stand up guys.
It's insufferable douche, douche.
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If you've never in your life shaken your head in disgust at "These kids today," you're about to. Trust us.
The San Francisco 49ers are in the midst of a complete franchise overhaul, resignations and retirements changing the entire character of the team. As part of that, the 49ers have consulted with Stanford University researchers to figure the best ways to reach the millennial generation.
Their answer: let the players play on their phones.
At first blush, it seems completely counter to every tough-guy football cliche ever: taking smartphone breaks? Really? But the more the 49ers considered it, the more it made sense, and as a result, the team takes breaks every half-hour to let the players check their phones, post status updates, and the like.
“The [experts] are telling me about attention spans and optimal learning,” new head coach Jim Tomsula told the Wall Street Journal. “I’m thinking, ‘My gosh, we sit in two-hour meetings. You are telling me after 27 minutes no one’s getting anything?'"
Thus, the breaks, in which players can, in Tomsula's words, “go grab your phone, do your multitasking and get your fix.”
The 49ers have also switched to digital playbooks and cell-phone alerts for team meetings. So far, no one has missed a meeting, the team reports. It's a small change, yes, but a significant one. So when you see a 49er bringing his cell phone into the huddle this fall, you'll know where it all started.
Hahahahaha
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Yeah I'm sure their phones will only be used for work related stuff.
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Yeah I'm sure their phones will only be used for work related stuff.
And Porn
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Yeah I'm sure their phones will only be used for work related stuff.
And to call their drug dealers.
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Yeah I'm sure their phones will only be used for work related stuff.
and to call an escort service
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To call their retirement planner.
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kaepernick is gonna need more than 5 minutes for his Instagram posts
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and to call an escort service
and to call GreenHornet's wife
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In all honesty it's not a horrible idea. I bet these guys doze off during meetings after 5 minutes. Maybe by doing this it gives them incentive to pay attention for the 30 minutes before playing on their iPad
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/did-the-49ers-just-have-the-worst-nfl-offseason-ever--let-s-rank-them-171823454.html
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Haha
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49ers' Ahmad Brooks indicted for sexual battery, Ray McDonald indicted for rape http://t.co/3FSbNWqrlH
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I have to wonder if all this excrement played into Harbaugh's decision to leave when he did
And had he chose to stay, how fucked would his marketability be after all the excrement to happen to that franchise.
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Greetings, the People, Matt Cleary here, I'll be doing my best to call the Big Game - San Francisco 49ers versus Minnesota Timberwolves (or something) - live from Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara. And it should be good. I don't admit to knowing a motherlode about American football but I do know there's a third-string punt returner and/or running back playing called Jarryd "Hayne Plane and/or Train" Hayne, wearer of the most famous No.38 in Australian sports history. So yes, there's been some hype.
http://www.barstoolsports.com/chicago/in-case-you-didnt-stay-up-for-the-second-mnf-game-an-australian-writer-live-blogged-the-game-and-had-no-idea-what-was-going-on/
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He's grassed it. Oh, my.
And...Tomsula looks like he’s eaten an onion sandwich
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Their uni's were hideous.
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Righto. Here’s the Vikings and all eyes on the great man Adrian Peterson. Vikings on their 15. Teddy Bridgewater fakes to Peterson and everyone goes ‘Woah, you passed it to someone else’. And the referees said: first down, baby. First down.
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Top stuff from Carlos Hyde, who leapt into the people after scoring that touchdown, bit like old mate did in that “show me the money” movie. Cuba Gooding Jnr, after he was knocked out. But he’d scored the touchdown. And he leapt into the crowd and waved his legs about. Top stuff. This wasn’t exactly like that. But Carlos Hyde, No28, is the man of this Monday Night Football match fixture.
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That's the greatest blog ever.
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Their uni's were hideous.
I came here to say exactly this. Turrible.
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Waived Jarryd Hayne. Not really much cop as a back but I'd have him as a return guy.
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I bet Rex claims him.
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I bet Rex claims him.
WREQUES
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https://mobile.twitter.com/timkawakami/status/672646220939026433
Tim Kawakami
Getting word about some possible massive chaos in the 49ers front office. Massive.
MASSIVE CHAOS!
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M A S S I V E
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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The #49ers & star TE George Kittle are in agreement on a 5-year, $75M extension, sources tell me & @MikeSilver, one that gives him more than half of it in guarantees. Language is being worked on, but numbers are there. One of their top players, this was a big-time priority
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I don't care how good he is, I'd never pay a tight end that much money.
All it takes is one fat lineman falling directly into his knee.
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I don't care how good he is, I'd never pay a tight end that much money.
All it takes is one fat lineman falling directly into his knee.
he's better than most WRs.
I'd love to have a Kittle or Kelce clone for Sam to throw to
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RIP Herman Cain
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he's better than most WRs.
I'd love to have a Kittle or Kelce clone for Sam to throw to
While this is true I’d be curious to see where this ranks in terms of WR money.
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I don't care how good he is, I'd never pay a tight end that much money.
All it takes is one fat lineman falling directly into his knee.
Careful, there's people on this board who would've given much more money than that for a box safety
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Tavon Austin out for the season
These are all of their injured recievers
Deebo Samuel
Richie James
Brandon Aiyuk
Travis Benjamin - IR
Tavon Austin - IR
Jalen Hurd - IR
JJ Nelson - IR
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Tavon Austin out for the season
These are all of their injured recievers
Deebo Samuel
Richie James
Brandon Aiyuk
Travis Benjamin - IR
Tavon Austin - IR
Jalen Hurd - IR
JJ Nelson - IR
And they still have a better core at the top than we do
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The 9ers have already restructured Tom Compton's deal. His salary has been dropped from $2.15m to $1.05m + incentive bonuses.
Source (https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1301914566155272193?s=09)
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Jimmy G done for the season and will probably compete for his job in 2021. I could see that competition being Sam Darnold.
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Jimmy G done for the season and will probably compete for his job in 2021. I could see that competition being Sam Darnold.
Belichick will get him back
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Jimmy G done for the season and will probably compete for his job in 2021. I could see that competition being Sam Darnold.
he wont be a niner in 2021. pre-june 1 cut saves $24 mil in cap savings
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he wont be a niner in 2021. pre-june 1 cut saves $24 mil in cap savings
Belichick will get him back
freak
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Belichick will get him back
He hasn't done anything with Cam Newton, I think we're fine here.
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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#49ers center Weston Richburg recently had hip surgery, source said, and there is no timetable for his return. After not playing in 2020 due to other injuries and due $8.35M in 2021, it’s likely that he’s played his last down in SF. His future on the field is to be determined.
I remember debating JE about this guy when he was a free agent. I kept saying he was a massive injury risk, and JE disagreed. Glad to see ol MB was right.
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I remember debating JE about this guy when he was a free agent. I kept saying he was a massive injury risk, and JE disagreed. Glad to see ol MB was right.
He missed three games in his first two seasons with the Niners, and played every snap of every game in 3 of his 4 seasons with the Giants. Have you really been sitting there for the last three years saying "any time now.... any time now..... any time now....... LOOK I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG!"
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He missed three games in his first two seasons with the Niners, and played every snap of every game in 3 of his 4 seasons with the Giants. Have you really been sitting there for the last three years saying "any time now.... any time now..... any time now....... LOOK I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG!"
He was injured all last season, and is toast in 2021. Thanks for playing.
Take the "L" like a man.
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He was injured all last season, and is toast in 2021. Thanks for playing.
Take the "L" like a man.
This is like that time in 1987 when all the kids in school told you that you were unfuckable but then you proved them all wrong when you got laid in 2006.
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This is like that time in 1987 when all the kids in school told you that you were unfuckable but then you proved them all wrong when you got laid in 2006.
don't be bitter. I hoped you learned something.
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don't be bitter. I hoped you learned something.
I did, MB. I learned, if I didn't know it already, that your ability and willingness to continue pointless internet arguments over multiple years far, far exceeds mine. So, uh, congrats?
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I did, MB. I learned, if I didn't know it already, that your ability and willingness to continue pointless internet arguments over multiple years far, far exceeds mine. So, uh, congrats?
We'll be having this same convo in the future when Trevor Lawrence wins his first super bowl.
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This is like that time in 1987 when all the kids in school told you that you were unfuckable but then you proved them all wrong when you got laid in 2006.
LOL.
87, fantastic year.
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He missed three games in his first two seasons with the Niners, and played every snap of every game in 3 of his 4 seasons with the Giants. Have you really been sitting there for the last three years saying "any time now.... any time now..... any time now....... LOOK I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG!"
MB is the master of being eventually right by predicting statistically likely failure, the lowest-quality rightness one can attain.
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MB is the master of being eventually right by predicting statistically likely failure, the lowest-quality rightness one can attain.
my ability to prevent disasters is elite
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Reminds me of the TGGers who predicted every coach would not win a SB, when the vast majority of coaches never do, it's not an impressive prediction. Nor is predicting the eventual injuries of a 300 lb athlete.
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Reminds me of the TGGers who predicted every coach would not win a SB, when the vast majority of coaches never do, it's not an impressive prediction. Nor is predicting the eventual injuries of a 300 lb athlete.
i said he was a bad investment because of his injury history. There's a difference
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This is like that time in 1987 when all the kids in school told you that you were unfuckable but then you proved them all wrong when you got laid in 2006.
LMAO!!!!
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Niners making o-line moves...
49ers agreed to terms with C Alex Mack, formerly of the Falcons.
35-year-old Mack is a six-time Pro Bowl selection and played for coach Kyle Shanahan in Atlanta where the two went to a Super Bowl together. Mack isn’t the All-Pro talent he once was at this stage of his career, but he is still above average and brings smarts and leadership. Incumbent Niners C Weston Richburg is expected to retire.
49ers signed LT Trent Williams to a six-year, $138.06 million contract.
Williams' patience pays off (literally) in becoming the highest-paid offensive lineman in NFL history, landing $55.1 million guaranteed including $30.1 million as a signing bonus. Initially drafted by Mike Shanahan in 2010, it's also likely Williams, 32, finishes his career under Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco. The Chiefs and Bears had reportedly discussed deals with him too but weren't in the same ballpark in terms of compensation. The final details are expected to unveil the Niners stretching out Williams' cap hit to allow for $16-$18 million in cap space ahead of the official start of free agency.
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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The #49ers are hosting veteran QB Joe Flacco on a visit, per me and @MikeGarafolo
. A potential experienced backup behind Jimmy G.
take Darnold with you
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https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1389023296365207552?s=21
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https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1389023296365207552?s=21
Basically he didn't want to get caught holding the bag, because he knew this year he was 'close' enough to be able to move up, and in another year he expects to be picking in the 20's-30's. So it would be impossible to go get a guy. Thus, he said I'd rather pay to be sure I'd rather get my guy than sit at 12 and not get a guy I want, or feel is about to win me all the games.
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"computer cowboy"
I hope the core group at PFF commits mass suicide. Those nerds freaking suck.
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"computer cowboy"
I hope the core group at PFF commits mass suicide. Those nerds freaking suck.
Is there anyone you don't hate?
Seems like noone knows anything besides you
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Is there anyone you don't hate?
Seems like noone knows anything besides you
freak off, mate
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I mean if you want to pay for PFF, that’s on you.
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freak off, mate
Will do, chap
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Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo
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The #49ers and LB Fred Warner have reached agreement on a five-year extension worth more than $95 million with $40.5 million in guarantees, source says. The first-team All Pro is now the highest-paid inside linebacker in the NFL.
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Are we really in the position to laugh at teams for overpaying inside linebackers?
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Are we really in the position to laugh at teams for overpaying inside linebackers?
Who's laughing?
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Who's laughing?
I mean this is the lol9ers thread
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I mean this is the lol9ers thread
Are you new to the forum?
the majority of the team threads begin with "lol".
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Who's laughing?
If we need someone to laugh in order to justify this, I will bear that cross.
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Are you new to the forum?
the majority of the team threads begin with "lol".
Sure hut most of them are started by making fun of the team
Then occasionally devolve into generalized team news
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1439744305552412680?s=19
Oof
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1439744305552412680?s=19
Oof
Trenton Cannon szn
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https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1474566832036073472?t=2-iOAYtjOrRfAadA9gUvKQ&s=19
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Jimmy G suffered a torn UCL in his throwing thumb so Trey Lance will be starting against Houston next week.
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Jimmy G suffered a torn UCL in his throwing thumb so Trey Lance will be starting against Houston next week.
LFG!
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https://twitter.com/theStevenRuiz/status/1481279995813244936?t=9fPUeKsDxYjG0rqcocfCOg&s=19
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https://twitter.com/theStevenRuiz/status/1481279995813244936?t=9fPUeKsDxYjG0rqcocfCOg&s=19
He looks like what I imagine dcm looks like
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lmao
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The most fucked up things always come out of Aurora Colorado.
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https://twitter.com/theStevenRuiz/status/1481279995813244936?t=9fPUeKsDxYjG0rqcocfCOg&s=19
Quirky and nerdy as he is, McDaniel's track record's a helluva lot better than that fat little weirdo Lowell Doggains
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https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1499912214492303360?t=xla3qOBoyxquxReF8bWNBg&s=19
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Ari Meirov
@MySportsUpdate
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Deebo Samuel has removed his #49ers profile picture, unfollowed the team, and has deleted over 80 posts (was at 248, now at 164) from his Instagram account.
Deebo is entering the final year of his rookie contract.
Could mean something. Could be trolling. But it happened.
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Do it, JD.
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1.04 for him in a heartbeat.
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1.04 for him in a heartbeat.
no
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no
He's one of the best players in the NFL, he's 26, and he's completely familiar with the system. Who are you going to pick at 1.04 that will help more than him?
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He's one of the best players in the NFL, he's 26, and he's completely familiar with the system. Who are you going to pick at 1.04 that will help more than him?
No one.
But also no one else will offer anything remotely similar. I want that damn edge prospect. I’d be much happier with 10 and/or 35,38,69.
That said if it’s either 4 or not happening, I’d probably give it.
But if SF can’t get him paid they have fucked up beyond all reason
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He's one of the best players in the NFL, he's 26, and he's completely familiar with the system. Who are you going to pick at 1.04 that will help more than him?
10 and something else. Not 4.
I don't freaking know, I'm just shooting the excrement.
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1.04 for him in a heartbeat.
Lol
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No one.
But also no one else will offer anything remotely similar. I want that damn edge prospect. I’d be much happier with 10 and/or 35,38,69.
But if SF can’t get him paid they have fucked up beyond all reason
This
Minus the line I deleted
The value of 4 is just extremely high. Of course you won't get a player as good at 4,but it's about can you get equal value at 4 + the 18-20 million in cap space or whatever the freak we'd be saving annually for the next 5 years.
Ans the answer is very likely yes
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Why do we need to give up 10 and 35/38/69 AND sign him to a megadeal? There's a reason we could have gotten Tyreek without giving up either 4 or 10.
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Why do we need to give up 10 and 35/38/69 AND sign him to a megadeal? There's a reason we could have gotten Tyreek without giving up either 4 or 10.
I think that reason is Tyreek wanted out and KC felt they had to move him. In the case of Samuel, Brown or Metcalf, the team has his rights for another year plus two years on the tag that ensures that someone needs to convince them to trade him away now.
But hey if Douglas can convince SF (or Tenn or Sea) to send us their megastar for 38 I am all freaking in
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https://twitter.com/NYJ_Matt/status/1513928166284345349
This is more of what I'm looking for.
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https://twitter.com/NYJ_Matt/status/1513928166284345349
This is more of what I'm looking for.
That would be grand larceny for us
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That would be grand larceny for us
Probably telling that the poster doesn't know the difference between hear and here.
Nothing to see hear
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Also telling that his username is TommyBohannon69
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It was obviously a troll account. But I did enjoy this reply
https://twitter.com/oliverjcochrane/status/1513928318692769793?s=21&t=sKnOJoAPshNI6EdGTUofGw
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https://twitter.com/NYJ_Matt/status/1513928166284345349
This is more of what I'm looking for.
Sold. Too bad it's just a...reddit? post.
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Jimmy G extended 1 year, makes him easier to keep. And easier to trade
Presumably it's one of those dummy year things
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Jimmy G extended 1 year, makes him easier to keep. And easier to trade
Since it includes a no-trade clause then I'd say no, no it doesn't.
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This whole situation is bizarre
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Since it includes a no-trade clause then I'd say no, no it doesn't.
Or that was his leverage to have a say over where he goes
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Or that was his leverage to have a say over where he goes
By definition, giving a player the ability to veto a trade makes it more difficult to trade him.
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By definition, giving a player the ability to veto a trade makes it more difficult to trade him.
That single aspect makes it more difficult to trade him. However his contract was always prohibitive. Now it's not.
Now he has a veto yes, but now team are actually would be willing to trade for him.
I'd say it's a net improvement to trade him
Now does it make sense that they've waited till the first week of September to try to trade him? Probably not, so it's certainly possible they won't be trading him
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Jason Verrett, tough break coming off an ACL from last season
https://twitter.com/49ers/status/1590803999187697664
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Jimmy g done for the year with a broken foot.
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Signed Josh Johnson. This is your moment, JJ.
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Signed Josh Johnson. This is your moment, JJ.
That's his fourth stint with them. It's like he's not ever trying to collect all 32.
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didnt even give kaep a tryout *shakes head*
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Brock Purdy/Breece Hall (ISU, 2021) - most badass name pairing since Brock Landers/Chest Rockwell
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Edit
Sounds like the reports of Purdy needing Tommy John are premature
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NBC Sports' Matt Maiocco believes Sam Darnold "might be ... the most talented thrower" in 49ers history.
“He might be — can I say this — the most talented thrower of the football that the 49ers have ever had,” Maiocco said in a recent radio interview with KNBR. “Let’s just put him in the very high echelon of guys who can just drop back in the pocket and throw the football. I think that he hasn’t really had any chance to succeed since his college days are over. I think he’s had four head coaches in five years, five offensive coordinators in five years. He’s a talented guy.” It's quite the claim, one sure to upset both Niners fans and people old enough to remember Steve Young and Joe Montana. Darnold made great strides in resurrecting his career in the final couple months of the 2022 season, proving efficient for a run-heavy Carolina offense. Only five QBs had a higher EPA per play than Darnold from Week 12-18. He posted a career-high 8.2 adjusted yards per attempt. Darnold is expected to split first-team reps with Trey Lance this offseason and could see multiple starts for the 49ers if Brock Purdy (elbow) isn't ready for the start of the regular season.
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Part of the reason he’s had 4 head coaches and 5 OCs in 5 years is because Sam has been very bad. If he was good, people wouldn’t have been firing OCs left and right to get someone else who might have been a better fit to help Sam reach his potential.
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i am not excusing sam's poor play and his subpar career thus far. he had both some bad teams and some nice weapons in carolina, but made nothing of it.
however, if there's any team that can make sam look good, it's the 49ers and shanahan.
he was always a nice kid and put blame/responsibility on himself, and we got nice draft picks for him, so i can't hold any grudges
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i am not excusing sam's poor play and his subpar career thus far. he had both some bad teams and some nice weapons in carolina, but made nothing of it.
however, if there's any team that can make sam look good, it's the 49ers and shanahan.
he was always a nice kid and put blame/responsibility on himself, and we got nice draft picks for him, so i can't hold any grudges
Getting reasonable compensation for Sam is more than offset by the fact we drafted Zach with a much more valuable pick, which is a pick we likely could've traded down to a QB needy team
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Getting reasonable compensation for Sam is more than offset by the fact we drafted Zach with a much more valuable pick, which is a pick we likely could've traded down to a QB needy team
we missed with zach but one move's success has nothing to do with the other's failure. it was time to move on from sam. if we held onto him we'd still be in the QB purgatory we were in prior to getting rodgers, and we would have gotten nowhere near the return for sam if we traded him at a later time.
even with missing on zach, we used sam's picks to build up the team and we were still able to pull a move for rodgers a couple of years later, with a roster as good as it's ever been in the last 12 years.
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we missed with zach but one move's success has nothing to do with the other's failure. it was time to move on from sam. if we held onto him we'd still be in the QB purgatory we were in prior to getting rodgers, and we would have gotten nowhere near the return for sam if we traded him at a later time.
even with missing on zach, we used sam's picks to build up the team and we were still able to pull a move for rodgers a couple of years later, with a roster as good as it's ever been in the last 12 years.
One moves success has everything to do with the others failure.
There's 0 chance we draft Zach Wilson if we decided to stick with Sam.
You can argue that trading Sam is the right move, but the moves are completely connected
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sam is QB2 in SF, not lance
i know he had more 'weapons' on the panthers but time revealed that he was again subject to a shitty coaching infrastructure with carolina. still not as bad as being punished with gase and loggains; we essentially put this kid in QB purgatory during the key developmental period of his career. if there is one gay that can make anything of sam's career, it's shanahan
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Learning some new things about Shanahan here.
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Learning some new things about Shanahan here.
lmao
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One moves success has everything to do with the others failure.
There's 0 chance we draft Zach Wilson if we decided to stick with Sam.
You can argue that trading Sam is the right move, but the moves are completely connected
If we had decided to stick with Sam, there's a good chance that we would have been the team that traded for Russ last year (maybe Watson too, though I doubt that). All things considered, I prefer this timeline.
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Purdy in concussion protocol, likely Darnold-time. I expect him to look like Montana out there.
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If we had decided to stick with Sam, there's a good chance that we would have been the team that traded for Russ last year (maybe Watson too, though I doubt that). All things considered, I prefer this timeline.
I was all in on Watson before the bad stuff came up. Thought it made a ton of sense with our draft capital and QB need.
I think the accusations really screwed him up mentally. And I'm not saying he's a victim. The victims are the victims. But purely football speaking, I think the whole ordeal screwed him up. He went from being the golden child to being a pariah, deservedly so.
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I was all in on Watson before the bad stuff came up. Thought it made a ton of sense with our draft capital and QB need.
I think the accusations really screwed him up mentally. And I'm not saying he's a victim. The victims are the victims. But purely football speaking, I think the whole ordeal screwed him up. He went from being the golden child to being a pariah, deservedly so.
In a way it's the most hilarious outcome of the situation. If he never played again there would be some what-if speculation about how good he could have been. It's probably much worse that he got 100s of millions guaranteed, though.
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In a way it's the most hilarious outcome of the situation. If he never played again there would be some what-if speculation about how good he could have been. It's probably much worse that he got 100s of millions guaranteed, though.
But it's Cleveland, so at least it is kind of funny. Even if they keep winning.
If Watson were old Watson, they would be a legit Super Bowl contender. Kind of like if the Jets had Rodgers..
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Chase Young for a mid-rounder
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Chase Young for a mid-rounder
what he's worth right now
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Washington trading all their defensive linemen is interesting...
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49ers DL is something else
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Apparently the Commanders have concerns over the longevity of Young's knee, which is reflected in the trade compensation. Niners are willing to gamble on it lasting a couple of seasons while they keep trying to win.
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Apparently the Commanders have concerns over the longevity of Young's knee, which is reflected in the trade compensation. Niners are willing to gamble on it lasting a couple of seasons while they keep trying to win.
Young has not been good for the Commanders
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Adam Schefter
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A change in San Francisco: Steve Wilks is out as the 49ers defensive coordinator.
Recently, the Niners DC position has been a pipeline to a HC job. Except for Wilks.