Jet Offensive
The Rest Of The Sports World => You Don't Know Football => Topic started by: Badger on October 13, 2013, 11:28:08 AM
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http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/red_zone/Eli-Mannings-face-after-each-of-his-15-interceptions.html#oH60LJU2RmV5STRh.16
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The E.L.I. system:
- Establish opponent's field position
- Let go of football
- Interception
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http://bigblueblitz.com/new-york-giants/david-wilson-and-rueben-randle-start-a-twitter-war/
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http://bigblueblitz.com/new-york-giants/david-wilson-and-rueben-randle-start-a-twitter-war/
Hahahahaha they can chalk that up to paying around but that sounds like they don't like each other to me.
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If they were Jets and the team was 0-6 they'd be getting crucified right now.
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If they were Jets and the team was 0-6 they'd be getting crucified right now.
Well you have to admit, they're a classy 0-6, while the Jets are a disorganized circus at 3-3.
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That was the kindest twitter war.
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Clearly we are more awesome than the giants, that's why our donuts sell better
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or it could mean that a larger proportion of our fan base consists of fatasses
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or it could mean that a larger proportion of our fan base consists of fatasses
Obviously I'm biased, but historically I've known Giants fans to be a little heavier.
And in this case nobody wants to be seen holding a donut for a shitty team.
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I've never seen Jets fans drinking lighter fluid and shampoo on YouTube.
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Obviously I'm biased, but historically I've known Giants fans to be a little heavier.
And in this case nobody wants to be seen holding a donut for a shitty team.
Never thought about this but you're definitely right. Must be the 'giant' name.
Jets fans tend to be raging alcoholics sporting 80s mullets
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Every time I eat a donut from Double D's I'm reminded how stale and awful they are.
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http://deadspin.com/david-wilson-explores-times-square-in-a-rabbit-head-fo-1449394250
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I'm at the MNF game tonight. post the Lolz in here so I can offer my corresponding lolz.
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I'm at the MNF game tonight. post the Lolz in here so I can offer my corresponding lolz.
LOL, Manning missed a wide open Nicks after a 16 play drive to settle for a field goal.
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I'm at the MNF game tonight. post the Lolz in here so I can offer my corresponding lolz.
Oof. How'd you get roped into that shitfest?
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I'm at the MNF game tonight. post the Lolz in here so I can offer my corresponding lolz.
You should have said, "No thank you, I have to alphabetize my spice rack"
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Being at a Giants game just feels so... weird.
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Oof. How'd you get roped into that shitfest?
I went (for free, with a ride) with 3 giants fans that are part of my group going to the jets raiders game with me. If anyone's interested I was about 2 inches away from a fight with 3 player of the pink oboe Vikings fans in the Mens bathroom. One kept calling me a mick and they were all pissed that I was yelling at them to shut the freak up and sit down. My roommate told them quite frankly to sit down sit forward and shut the freak up if they didn't want a physical confrontation. haven't seen their faces since.
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not exactly rooting for the giants here but I can't stand any opposing fans in metlife.
wearing a chad Pennington shirt, jets sweatshirt and yankees hat. been called out only by fakeass Vikings fans
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well that fumble was all lolz. turning point.
edit: under review
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wow. the giants finally win. the crowd was funny tonight, for those of us that complain about generic retard jets fans, giants fans are 100x worse. just no understanding for the fundamentals or rules of the game. stadium is about 80% empty for the last 5 minutes of the game. all diehards, I'm sure.
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wow. the giants finally win. the crowd was funny tonight, for those of us that complain about generic retard jets fans, giants fans are 100x worse. just no understanding for the fundamentals or rules of the game. stadium is about 80% empty for the last 5 minutes of the game. all diehards, I'm sure.
There was a shot on tv towards the end of the first half where the Giants center was yelling and making arm motions to the crowd to shut the freak up because they were on the goal line and trying to call a play.
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Still, they packed that stadium. We have a winning record and can't pack the fuckn stadium.
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Still, they packed that stadium. We have a winning record and can't pack the fuckn stadium.
Did they punch any women though ?
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Still, they packed that stadium. We have a winning record and can't pack the fuckn stadium.
eh. that was one thing I made sure to take note of and it felt just as crowded as every jets game I've been to. credit to them for showing up to support a winless team, I wouldnt count on jets fans to do that.
There was a TON of Vikings fans there.
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Eli and Rolle literally say "you know" every two words.
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They are only one game behind the Jets, but I can still laugh at this excrement......
Unstoppable....hahaha.
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http://deadspin.com/the-giants-season-in-one-vine-1470799373
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Glad to see the giants lose after all that excrement they talked. Even better Romo leading a game winning drive against them
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Watched it with some Giants fan friends at a bar. The schadenfreud was delicious.
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Glad to see the giants lose after all that excrement they talked.
But they beat Freeman, Barkley, Pryor, and Tolzien! After running a gauntlet like that how could they NOT be super confident?
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http://deadspin.com/young-child-screams-you-suck-after-eli-mannings-four-1483754630
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Haven't you heard Giants fans are classy yo.
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Eli Manning is 1st QB with 0 TD, 5 Int & under 200 yards since Mark Sanchez in 2009 #NewYorkFootball
— Jeremy Lundblad (@JLundbladESPN) December 15, 2013
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Yesterday was the third anniversary of the Miracle at the New Meadowlands
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCkijY_haQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtRTtoJlx1k
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I miss the farewell tour of the old Meadowlands
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Might have to rename this thread "One Giant Circus"
The Newark Star-Ledger reports the Giants will fire offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride.
FOX Sports' Mike Garafolo chimes in by saying this is the "likely" scenario. This comes mere hours after owner John Mara called the team's offense "broken," adding that the Giants "can't go into next season with the same personnel." Gilbride, 62, has been with coach Tom Coughlin since 1995, dating all the way back to Coughlin's Jaguars days. ESPN New York believes Coughlin could choose to resign from the Giants if he's forced to fire his buddy.
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/281188/report-giants-will-fire-oc-kevin-gilbride
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ESPN New York believes Coughlin could choose to resign from the Giants if he's forced to fire his buddy.
This would be the most circus-y scenario. Hopefully that happens and they hire Jim Schwartz.
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This would be the most circus-y scenario. Hopefully that happens and they hire Jim Schwartz.
i was hoping they'd promote Perry Fewell to continue the shitstorm.
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i was hoping they'd promote Perry Fewell to continue the shitstorm.
If Coughlin walks that whole coaching staff is getting nuked, as well as most of the roster.
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If Coughlin walks that whole coaching staff is getting nuked, as well as most of the roster.
they need to nuke Jerry Reese. He drafts like Terry Bradway.
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i was hoping they'd promote Perry Fewell to continue the shitstorm.
That was my imagined plan B.
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If the Giants do see Coughlin resign I could see them going after Lovie Smith. He just seems like a good fit.
Side note, Jerry Reese is an idiot.
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This would be the most circus-y scenario. Hopefully that happens and they hire Rob Ryan.
FYP.
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FYP.
LOL Francesa would have a heart attack on the air.
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Gilbride retired on the 20th anniversary of Buddy Ryan punching him in the face. Fitting.
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Giants interviewing Mike Sullivan for Gilbride's replacement, I didn't realise he'd also been given the push at Tampa.
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You realize the Giants have had one good month since 2008. It was a hell of a good month, but they were 7-7 before that and missed the playoffs in 2009, 2010, 2012 and 2013.
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http://nypost.com/2014/01/30/eli-and-giants-created-fake-memorabilia-suit/
Dun dun dunnnnnnn!
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Oh excrement. That's huge if true.
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Giants are a class organization all the way, a model franchise. Francesar says so, it must be true.
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This dude did not lose 10+ million on this nonsense.
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I hope they burn to the ground
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http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2014-new-york-giants-1630014411
This was actually my favorite one and it's not Giants-specific:
The idea that you can get to their stadium by public transit is absolute bullshit. First you have to go to Penn Station, which is what would happen if you superglued three different Siberian bus stations together and crammed a few hundred thousand smelly, irritable people in it every day.
Then you have to take a train to Secaucus, which is a New Jersey transit hub so you'd figure trains would leave every ten minutes or so on gamedays. Except lolnope, when I went for the Broncos-Giants game last year I had to wait for 45 minutes, biding my time by watching football in Penn Station's top sports bar (TGI Fridays) and drinking a nine-dollar Sam Adams draft.
Then, when you finally get to Secaucus you have to run to a platform that is most likely packed (seriously, it's almost impossible to move on it) while waiting for another train to Giants Stadium.
That train goes to Giants Stadium at roughly two miles per hour. Seriously, I think they haven't installed electricity on the tracks yet and it's just pulled by a team of oxen. It took me about 2 hours from leaving my house just to get there. Then, when you want to go back there aren't nearly enough of those slow-derriere trains to take back everyone who wants to use public transit so you'll wait in line for about 40 minutes with 10,000 other pissed, drunk Giants fans wondering if it'd just be faster if they swam through the Meadowlands to Secaucus.
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Gtfo
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That Giant game was almost like watching porn.
Also, bojanglesman, sorry about your rough outing but it might help us get a Wild Card. ;D
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That Giant game was almost like watching porn.
Also, bojanglesman, sorry about your rough outing but it might help us get a Wild Card. ;D
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Hahahahha
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http://dailysnark.com/giants-fan-burns-eli-manning-jersey/
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Good. freak em.
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http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/09/17/keidel-i-remain-steadfast-giants-will-still-have-better-season-than-jets/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/09/17/keidel-i-remain-steadfast-giants-will-still-have-better-season-than-jets/)
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http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/09/17/keidel-i-remain-steadfast-giants-will-still-have-better-season-than-jets/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/09/17/keidel-i-remain-steadfast-giants-will-still-have-better-season-than-jets/)
Any team that can't beat drew Stanton in their own house is a lock to make the playoffs
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They may very well have a better season, but what the freak does history have to do with this season? Past performance does NOT guarantee future results in the NFL. Any idiot knows that.
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They may very well have a better season, but what the freak does history have to do with this season? Past performance does NOT guarantee future results in the NFL. Any idiot knows that.
Its worked pretty well for predicting the Bills every year
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They may very well have a better season, but what the freak does history have to do with this season? Past performance does NOT guarantee future results in the NFL. Any idiot knows that.
Yea but they have class
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Why doesn't the Daily News ever get faux-outraged on our behalf?
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Always classy
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2014/10/12/6967565/weston-richburg-dirty-hit-on-fletcher-cox-video-eagles-vs-giants
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Always classy
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2014/10/12/6967565/weston-richburg-dirty-hit-on-fletcher-cox-video-eagles-vs-giants
I love that. Wish we had Richburg.
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I'm ok with that hit. I'm also assuming that Fletcher Cox has a chest full of tiny shoes in his basement.
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40 burger at home.
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40 burger at home.
we can top that.
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I didn't realize Andre Williams was only doing 3.0 ypc.
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I thank Andre Williams for his 11 fantasy points last night. Squeezed out a 0.3 point win
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Coughlin always looks like they just lost his putter at the country club. That or the kids hit the ball in his yard again.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ex-nfl-player-charged-sexual-assault-234934367--nfl.html
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ex-nfl-player-charged-sexual-assault-234934367--nfl.html
Don't beat up on your wife, take a fuckin lap around the house.
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What do you think we could trade them Geno Smith for after the season?
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How do you not feel the ball leave your hand as you go to throw it?
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Delicious tears.
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I really enjoyed that.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/12/fraud-lawsuit-against-giants-eli-manning-will-proceed/
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ELI5
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LOL freak the Giants.
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Classic 96 position. derriere salad.
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Two shitdicks in a slapfight
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2014/11/tiki_barber_ex-giants_running_back_gets_into_heated_argument_on-air_with_daily_news_writer.html
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Tiki Barber takes an hour and a half longer than me to run a marathon, and I'm older than him.
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Tiki's a douchebag, I'm glad his TV career in tanking.
Amazing people want Coughlin fired, that should give you a little perspective of the lunacy on New York fans and media. Listen to them and you'll never win.
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Tiki Barber takes an hour and a half longer than me to run a marathon, and I'm older than him.
I don't know anything about you, but I'd imagine tiki probably has at least 50-75 pounds on you ,and is probably due for bilateral knee replacements by now
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I don't know anything about you, but I'd imagine tiki probably has at least 50-75 pounds on you ,and is probably due for bilateral knee replacements by now
Fat queynte needs to lose some weight then.
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And that's a wrap. Welcome to the 8 loss club, fuckfaces.
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That roar at the end of the cowboys game shows that in a losing season, no one shows up no matter how classy your fans are.
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That roar at the end of the cowboys game shows that in a losing season, no one shows up no matter how classy your fans are.
Yeah, the Cowboys always have a lot of fans, too. Night games aren't the Giant fans forte, they like those 1:00 games and the Early Bird Special.
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Eli missed that one. I guess it looks easier from above, I remember Sanchez on a MNF had Keller wide open in the end zone and dumped it to LT at like the 5.
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Maybe the papers this week can stop stroking Beckham long enough to notice their heros suck as bad as our team.
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I didn't see a second of this game but I followed the box score, and it was amusing.
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I saw the Giants go up big and quit paying attention. I was hoping they'd have an embarrassing loss to the Jags, but gave up. I checked in the fourth quarter and laughed my derriere off.
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Such a weird game giants dominated the first half and played like derriere in the second
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Such a weird game giants dominated the first half and played like derriere in the second
Tom Coughlin is great at making adjustments.
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http://www.nfl.com/videos/jacksonville-jaguars/0ap3000000436750/Week-13-Jaguars-defense-highlights
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Nice to see DRC making a difference in the win column for the GMEN.
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Nice to see DRC making a difference in the win column for the GMEN.
Good thing they aren't paying him that much.............
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Steve Weatherford is on Good Day New York to do damage control for his sideline argument with that coach.
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Anniversary of the Miracle at the New Meadowlands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slAx291z1hM
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That was fun to watch.
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No Giants in the Pro Bowl.
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Beckham is an alternate. They're going to be scary when Cruz comes back next year. I hope we're not holding open tryouts at CB again the week we play them.
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Beckham is an alternate. They're going to be scary when Cruz comes back next year. I hope we're not holding open tryouts at CB again the week we play them.
Hopefully Milliner and McDougle are back from the dead and we add at least one solid guy.
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Hopefully Milliner and McDougle are back from the dead and we add at least one solid guy.
Maybe one that rhymes with heave this.
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Maybe one that rhymes with heave this.
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I think that Beavis character played a game or two this year for the Jets.
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In Asia there's a cigarette brand called "Mevius" and I'd always read it as Mevi$ and chuckle.
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Beckham is an alternate. They're going to be scary when Cruz comes back next year. I hope we're not holding open tryouts at CB again the week we play them.TD
Beckham Cruz and Randle will be tough to stop for sure
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Beckham Cruz and Randle will be tough to stop for sure
Thank god they won't have a QB
Will be interesting to see how they handle Eli being due like 22 million this year or something like that
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Beckham Cruz and Randle will be tough to stop for sure
Darrin Walls could probably lock down Rueben Randle
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Thank god they won't have a QB
Will be interesting to see how they handle Eli being due like 22 million this year or something like that
He's not going anywhere. Only we get rid of people we need to save money.
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Our new offense-minded coach will let them walk in every time they score, and then score eight on every offensive possession.
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Out on a loss to Sanchez. A nice quiet winter from the Giant fans.
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Coughlin vs the lady in GPS
http://deadspin.com/tom-coughlin-wants-his-dang-phones-lady-in-gps-to-shu-1693654357
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They have the worst freaking luck with injuries every year.
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 12m12 minutes ago
#Giants LT Will Beatty tore his pec, source said. He’s having surgery. Huge blow.
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Maybe Jake Long finally gets signed now.
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Beatty tore his titty lifting weights.
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Flowers time.
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Beatty wasn't a special player, but they just went from set in stone on that line to another year of question marks. Flowers will have to earn his money now.
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Giants fans couldn't wait to replace Beatty, but he was playing because they didn't have any better options.
They were ready to move Justin Pugh inside to guard and dump John Jerry from what I heard. Now those plans may have to be scrapped.
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Giants fans couldn't wait to replace Beatty, but he was playing because they didn't have any better options.
They were ready to move Justin Pugh inside to guard and dump John Jerry from what I heard. Now those plans may have to be scrapped.
The line setup was clear as day when they took Flowers. Jerry had no place going back after last year. Bobby Hart could be a sleeper to get snaps for them this year, the kid started a lot of games at FSU and has potential despite being such a late pick.
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How long do torn muscles take to repair? 4-6 months or is it as long as ACL surgery?
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How long do torn muscles take to repair? 4-6 months or is it as long as ACL surgery?
Think they said 5 months for him
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5 months from now? That means he'll only miss a few games.
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5 months from now? That means he'll only miss a few games.
Yeah I didn't think a muscle tear at this point isn't as catastrophic as a ligament tear.
Think they said 5 months for him
Thank you
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5 months from now? That means he'll only miss a few games.
Well its 5 months for recovery.
I imagine at the minimum he will start the season on the PUP and miss the first 6 games. Then with him being presumably out of shape and the mix of things unless someone is really struggling whether he could be a solid starter at that point
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Maybe Jake Long finally gets signed now.
http://mweb.cbssports.com/fantasy/fantasy-football/update/25198818/report-ot-jake-long-visits-giants-thursday
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http://uproxx.com/ksk/2015/06/how-every-player-on-the-giants-roster-will-get-injured/ (http://uproxx.com/ksk/2015/06/how-every-player-on-the-giants-roster-will-get-injured/)
1. Weston Richburg
2. Chykie Brown
3. Preston Parker
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Death Bed!
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https://youtu.be/01l1WIC9mBo (https://youtu.be/01l1WIC9mBo)
Now this belongs here.
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http://www.giants101.com/2015/07/31/new-york-giants-fans-step-over-seizing-woman-in-effort-to-land-odell-beckham-jr-autograph/
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Giants signed the king headhunter himself, Brandon Meriweather.
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Giants signed the king headhunter himself, Brandon Meriweather.
They're gonna class him up.
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They're gonna class him up.
LOL
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Umenyiora is signing a one day contract on Wednesday to retire with the Giants.
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Not really a LOL, apparently the Giants are in discussions about a trade for Kam Chancellor.
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Not really a LOL, apparently the Giants are in discussions about a trade for Kam Chancellor.
I'd LOL if the giants traded for him.
Especially if they gave up at least a future first for him and a contract extension
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This isn't lol at all:
Tyler Sash died. RIP
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This isn't lol at all:
Tyler Sash died. RIP
Details?
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Details?
No idea, they found him dead at his house in Iowa.
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Details?
Not to disparage the deceased but this is the best I can come up with, I bolded what I imagine is the pertinent part:
Sept. 9 (New York Times) -- Tyler Sash, a standout safety at Iowa who went on to play for the Giants, winning a Super Bowl ring in 2011, has died, Iowa's medical examiner's office said on Tuesday. He was 27.
John Kraemer, the director of forensic operations for the medical examiner, said his office and the police in Oskaloosa, Iowa, were investigating the death. No cause has been determined, he said; an autopsy was scheduled for Wednesday morning.
Sash started 37 games for the Hawkeyes from 2007-10, earning first-team All-Big Ten honors as a senior. He was fourth in career interception return yardage in the Big Ten when he graduated.
Sash played two seasons with the Giants. He was suspended for four games in 2012 for violating the N.F.L.'s performance-enhancing substances policy by testing positive for Adderall, a stimulant used primarily to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and narcolepsy.
The Giants cut ties with Sash before the 2013 opener, reaching an injury settlement with him after he sustained a concussion in the final preseason game against the New England Patriots.
Sash was arrested in May 2014 in Oskaloosa after the police said he led officers on a four-block chase with a motorized scooter before running into a wooded area. He pleaded guilty to public intoxication.
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Makes you wonder if this will be one of those chronic traumatic encephalopathy concussion situations if they allow a brain study.
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Makes you wonder if this will be one of those chronic traumatic encephalopathy concussion situations if they allow a brain study.
He's a bit young but it does represent a good guess.
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I read somewhere the other day that 87 of the 91 ex-NFL players' brains that they had analysed show signs of CTE, although I didn't see any control data so I don't have context for that statistic.
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It's things like this that are the reason we have the LOL threads.
Dan Graziano @DanGrazianoESPN
Just spoke with Giants RB Rashad Jennings, who confirms that he was told in the huddle before first and second down, "Rashad, don't score."
Apparently the Giants coaching staff thought that running down the clock was more important than going up two scores with less than two minutes remaining.
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It's things like this that are the reason we have the LOL threads.
Dan Graziano @DanGrazianoESPN
Just spoke with Giants RB Rashad Jennings, who confirms that he was told in the huddle before first and second down, "Rashad, don't score."
Apparently the Giants coaching staff thought that running down the clock was more important than going up two scores with less than two minutes remaining.
What makes that even funnier is I remember Collinsworth sucking Coughlin's dick right before that moronic decision.
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That's a 5 honker.
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LMAO, wait don't score a touchdown and make it a 2 score game with a minute and a half left? excrement and I get on Rex for his offensive and game managing skills. hahaha Imay want to rethink that, if this is indicative of Super Bowl winning coaching.
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Apparently that call was all Eli. He admitted to as much.
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Apparently that call was all Eli. He admitted to as much.
And no-one looked at him and said, "Shut up you freaking idiot, do you even math?" So, it's on more than just Eli.
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And no-one looked at him and said, "Shut up you freaking idiot, do you even math?" So, it's on more than just Eli.
Hahaha
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That's a 5 honker.
I'm proud to have my typos contribute finally
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I'm proud to have my typos contribute finally
excrement dude they're always fanfuckingtastic.
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Picked the wrong night to fall asleep and miss the end of the Giants game. I would have thoroughly enjoyed that.
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Almost as good as that Philly comeback after that punt fuckup.
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Picked the wrong night to fall asleep and miss the end of the Giants game. I would have thoroughly enjoyed that.
Me too. I watch pretty much every MNF game, but I was passing out before halftime. Really regret not watching this live.
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I know I'm probably the only one on here, but I root for the Giants when they play the Cowboys.
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I know I'm probably the only one on here, but I root for the Giants when they play the Cowboys.
Yes you are. The only time I'll pull for the Giants is against someone else in the AFC East.
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I know I'm probably the only one on here, but I root for the Giants when they play the Cowboys.
I never root for the Giants unless they're playing someone in the AFCE, Jets notwithstanding
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It sounds pretty gay saying I root for the Giants, I don't. Really what it is, is that I hate the Cowboys much more than I hate the Giants. I understand that's not the regular sentiment among jets fans, that's just how I've always felt.
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I know I'm probably the only one on here, but I root for the Giants when they play the Cowboys.
You're exactly like the tongue, he was screaming at the TV because of that Pass interference call and how the Giants fucked the game up. He loves 2 teams, the Jets and anyone playing the Cowboys.
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It sounds pretty gay saying I root for the Giants, I don't. Really what it is, is that I hate the Cowboys much more than I hate the Giants. I understand that's not the regular sentiment among jets fans, that's just how I've always felt.
Everyone has their own surroundings and reasons. When I was away from the NY area in the 90s and the Giants were no good I was pretty indifferent towards them, almost would root for them just for New York. Living here when they're anywhere near good is rough, never mind when they beat us and win the Super Bowl. I hate them as much as anyone in sports.
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I know I'm probably the only one on here, but I root for the Giants when they play the Cowboys.
I root (kinda) for the Giants whenever they're not playing the Jets. I don't actively root for them and I don't watch most games, but I never root against them unless they're playing the Jets.
I'll also root for practically anyone playing the Cowboys.
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I have no strong feelings about the Cowboys other than I know a 'Boys fan who's cool, and I like Romo.
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I didn't mind them until they won in 2011
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I didn't mind them until they won in 2011
By far the lesser of two evils.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vaBKMivSBI&sns=em
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http://www.theonion.com/article/giants-move-tom-coughlin-assisted-coaching-facilit-51324
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(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/16/4335efe4db36ef79d95ca18c47319072.jpg)
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Haha. That's so stupid it's funny.
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Hey I led the Giants win two Super Bowl victories against the odds, but what the hell shame me for one stupid mistake.
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Hey I led the Giants win two Super Bowl victories against the odds, but what the hell shame me for one stupid mistake.
While there was an element of luck involved with his winning, I agree. This is kind of ridiculous. At the same time, I think he's playing the part of the fall guy here. How does a coaching staff not say something or know what's going on in that situation?
Eli got paid, so he's not hurting himself by taking the blame. Coughlin's been walking a tightrope for a while now so there's a lot to lose if that call came from him.
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While there was an element of luck involved with his winning, I agree. This is kind of ridiculous. At the same time, I think he's playing the part of the fall guy here. How does a coaching staff not say something or know what's going on in that situation?
Eli got paid, so he's not hurting himself by taking the blame. Coughlin's been walking a tightrope for a while now so there's a lot to lose if that call came from him.
definitely.
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Coughlin's at higher risk of dying of old age. Like Chris Rock says.. Coughlin is so old he can get run over by a bus and they'd rule it death from natural causes
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Bump
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Lolololol
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Coughlin has to get let go after this year, there's no way you can keep him
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Coughlin has to get let go after this year, there's no way you can keep him
Every time it gets to this point he wins a superbowl.
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Every time it gets to this point he wins a superbowl.
I will eat a Giants hat at our next tailgate if that's the case.
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"Giants dealing with MRSA concerns after Daniel Fells diagnosed with infection"
The New York Giants are taking all precautions after one of their players was found to have the staph infection MRSA.
Tight end Daniel Fells was being treated for a chronic ankle condition when MRSA was discovered; the treatment Fells will require is extensive enough that New York placed him on season-ending injured reserve.
Though there are no concerns that the infection, which is contagious and can be fatal, has spread to any other members of the team, the Giants are not taking any chances.
"We are working with infectious disease specialists, and we have defined protocols that we are following in consultation with the Duke Infection Control Outreach Network and local infectious disease specialists," team spokesman Pat Hanlon said. "Those protocols are being followed carefully."
That has included scrubbing the locker room, training room, and all meeting rooms as a precaution. Fells is expected to be alright once he finishes his course of treatment.
GTFO of MetLife you grody scumbags
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"Giants dealing with MRSA concerns after Daniel Fells diagnosed with infection"
GTFO of MetLife you grody scumbags
Yeah most of the guys we tailgate with are certainly that.............. oh you mean the Giants, same difference.
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"Giants dealing with MRSA concerns after Daniel Fells diagnosed with infection"
GTFO of MetLife you grody scumbags
Tom Coughlin should probably start washing his hands after taking a pee, and quit showering with his players a la Sandusky.
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Not quite as LOL any more.
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
Following 5 surgeries & more on the way, #Giants TE Daniel Fells’ MRSA situation is very serious. Doctors are fighting to save his foot now.
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Oh excrement.
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Holy excrement that sucks and yeah it's not "lol"not even close anymore.
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Damn that sucks
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This fan.
http://deadspin.com/trash-talking-giants-fan-unprepared-for-eagles-fans-han-1737585632
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This fan.
http://deadspin.com/trash-talking-giants-fan-unprepared-for-eagles-fans-han-1737585632
Why would a giants fan even make the trip to that pooper?
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Couple of losers
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At least it was settled without stomping n shooting like your typical west coast neanderthal's
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NYDN – The Giants rebounded Sunday with a win over the Bucs in Tampa, and one Big Blue supporter decided to celebrate in blatantly illegal fashion. A Giants fan named Daniel Justin Raboni, 32, of North Palm Beach, Fla., was arrested Sunday night after trying to set fire to a massive, 80-by-50 foot Bucs flag at the team headquarters, police said. The flag costs $26,000 and hangs from a 15-foot pole at One Buccaneer Place, the Tampa Tribune reports. There was one problem, though. The flag was made of fire-retardant material, according to police, so Raboni was only able to melt a small portion of it. Raboni faces charges of criminal mischief and possession of marijuana. He was being held at Hillsborough County Jail on $2,500 bond.
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(http://cdn.barstoolsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/10/flagweb10s-1-web.jpg?8b81f6)
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I've mentioned it before but this guy completely lives up to my fat Giants fan stereotype.
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Look at that douchebag. Haha.
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http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/eli-man-penguin-boy-1745137790
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http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2015/12/giants_fans_call_for_tom_coughlin_to_be_fired_afte.html
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Fatcesa should be fun tomorrow.
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Fatcesa should be fun tomorrow.
Duhdecision to gofawit on fawth down instedda kickin da feelgoal cost da Giants dis game.
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Duhdecision to gofawit on fawth down instedda kickin da feelgoal cost da Giants dis game.
Just heard him say, "da Jets cudda scowad....... Effitlissly"
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Duhdecision to gofawit on fawth down instedda kickin da feelgoal cost da Giants dis game.
Nope. He agreed with Coughlin. Which was actually funnier.
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Nope. He agreed with Coughlin. Which was actually funnier.
Does Francessa's accent sound the same with his tongue in Coughlin's derriere?
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(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12308629_1039700336076654_4737272094130228014_n.jpg?oh=2e9a8458bc0f4c0d7c1cfe1cf1a76a22&oe=56DF601C)
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25407200/rueben-randle-its-frustrating-playing-second-fiddle-to-odell-beckham
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25407200/rueben-randle-its-frustrating-playing-second-fiddle-to-odell-beckham
Well what the freak does he expect? Some guys are just better, and that's a tough reality to accept for these pros who were all once college stars and the best of the best of the best.
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Well what the freak does he expect? Some guys are just better, and that's a tough reality to accept for these pros who were all once college stars and the best of the best of the best.
That basically says it all. I was lol'ing.....really did you just say that in an interview. He's a freaking idiot.
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http://www.barstoolsports.com/newyork/the-fact-that-the-giants-would-be-10-2-if-games-ended-with-75-seconds-left-in-regulation-just-makes-me-sad/
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http://www.barstoolsports.com/newyork/the-fact-that-the-giants-would-be-10-2-if-games-ended-with-75-seconds-left-in-regulation-just-makes-me-sad/
You'd think winning 2 Super Bowls within 5 years, in the last 10 years would make that fan base a bit more positive.
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You'd think winning 2 Super Bowls within 5 years, in the last 10 years would make that fan base a bit more positive.
They're still New Yorkers, and therefore essentially cynical to the core.
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They're still New Yorkers, and therefore essentially cynical to the core.
Yep.
The further removed i am from living there, the more I realize how prevalent that mentality is there.
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Giants cut Damontre Moore for violating team rules, despite the fact that he's one of their better players. Seems like a curious decision, but as yet no word as to what he actually did.
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Sign that classless beast
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Bahahaha!!!
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 2m2 minutes ago
#Giants DE Damontre Moore got into a fight with Cullen Jenkins, sources say, over not getting free @beatsbydre headphones like other players
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Lol....amazing
Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk
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These guys make a ton of money just go to amazon and buy a shitty pair of those things
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Says he used to make a fool of himself and clown around in front of the Maras.
Sounds like a total degenerate and retard
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Says he used to make a fool of himself and clown around in front of the Maras.
Sounds like a total degenerate and retard
Giants fans on Reddit think that he's the most stupid player they've had, and their current roster features a player who blew his finger off while playing with fireworks so there's some serious competition for that title.
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Giants fans on Reddit think that he's the most stupid player they've had, and their current roster features a player who blew his finger off while playing with fireworks so there's some serious competition for that title.
And Brandon meriweather
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And Brandon meriweather
He's not dumb, he's just a queynte. (Actually he might be dumb, I don't know. I just know him as a queynte.)
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He's not dumb, he's just a queynte. (Actually he might be dumb, I don't know. I just know him as a queynte.)
I'll agree that he's a dumb queynte.
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Giants fans on Reddit think that he's the most stupid player they've had, and their current roster features a player who blew his finger off while playing with fireworks so there's some serious competition for that title.
lol
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Giants fans on Reddit think that he's the most stupid player they've had, and their current roster features a player who blew his finger off while playing with fireworks so there's some serious competition for that title.
You have to admit when you make a big sale, besides the paycheck you want some recognition. Lets give credit where credit is due, he also partially blew his thumb and middle finger off.
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He's not dumb, he's just a queynte. (Actually he might be dumb, I don't know. I just know him as a queynte.)
If you needed convincing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9J4y9p29O8
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If you needed convincing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9J4y9p29O8
act like lil females
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If you needed convincing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9J4y9p29O8
Consider me convinced.
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Consider me convinced.
Holy excrement yeah
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Someone should call up fatcessa and tell him how classless the giants ah fah having a guy like obj on tha team. It's a uttah disastah
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Someone should call up fatcessa and tell him how classless the giants ah fah having a guy like obj on tha team. It's a uttah disastah
He pretty much said that yesterday, for an hour or two. I actually turned it on after seeing the Twitter Francesa (LOL) going on about it.
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Someone should call up fatcessa and tell him how classless the giants ah fah having a guy like obj on tha team. It's a uttah disastah
it's always been funny to me to hear about the class of the Giants. they have had so many issues through the years but the media always sticks up for them and they have this unearned reputation as a class franchise.
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it's always been funny to me to hear about the class of the Giants. they have had so many issues through the years but the media always sticks up for them and they have this unearned reputation as a class franchise.
Same thing with the Patriots.
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Same thing with the Patriots.
I don't know, I never really see people talking about the class of the Pats Just the fact that they win. w/ the Giants it's all about class.
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I don't know, I never really see people talking about the class of the Pats Just the fact that they win. w/ the Giants it's all about class.
I hear a lot about how classy Kraft, Brady, and the whole organization are. Between murdering, cheating both on the field and with spouses, Edelman/Gronk's nefarious ways, and Brady being a whiny bitch all the time I never understood it.
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I hear a lot about how classy Kraft, Brady, and the whole organization are. Between murdering, cheating both on the field and with spouses, Edelman/Gronk's nefarious ways, and Brady being a whiny bitch all the time I never understood it.
NE has a great organization but class is not a part of it.
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@MikeGarafolo: Sunday is likely to be Tom Coughlin's last game as Giants head coach.
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@MikeGarafolo: Sunday is likely to be Tom Coughlin's last game as Giants head coach.
Funny how that guy was close to being fired in 2007 then went on to win a SB. Then was close to almost getting fired again before winning in 2011. Hard to feel sorry for him.
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Funny how that guy was close to being fired in 2007 then went on to win a SB. Then was close to almost getting fired again before winning in 2011. Hard to feel sorry for him.
he should go out on his terms, 2 SBs should give him that but the "class" giants will run him out of town.
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Coughlin can freak off.
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I don't hate Coughlin, but because he's the Giants coach he can eat my balls.
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Twitter is a MASSIVE Tom Coughlin blowjob right now.
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Twitter is a MASSIVE Tom Coughlin blowjob right now.
it's unbelievable, you would think Vince Lombardi willingly retired instead of a guy that was fired that just missed 6 of 7 postseasons in that creampuff division.
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It's a lovefest because he's a good guy, not because he's a good coach anymore.
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It's a lovefest because he's a good guy, not because he's a good coach anymore.
freak you, firemanedjr.
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It's a lovefest because he's a good guy, not because he's a good coach anymore.
he's being talked about like he's Vince Lombardi.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CX99HieWwAAwWd3.mp4
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he's being talked about like he's Vince Lombardi.
OK, he's a good guy and has 2 super bowl rings. It's overblown, but he isn't a turd either. Just like anyone retiring from any job on decent terms, you talk about all the good stuff and leave out the times you showed up late and drunk to work.
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If this is making you guys mad, just wait until Bill Bilichick retires. I can't wait but the media blowjobs will be nauseating.
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If this is making you guys mad, just wait until Bill Bilichick retires. I can't wait but the media blowjobs will be nauseating.
I will be too busy dancing in the salty tears of Patriots fans to be mad.
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http://ferrall.radio.cbssports.com/2016/01/06/why-bill-belichick-might-actually-want-new-york-giants-job/
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http://ferrall.radio.cbssports.com/2016/01/06/why-bill-belichick-might-actually-want-new-york-giants-job/
Is there a god? Please dear god let this happen
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Interesting idea but it would never happen. MAYBE if Brady retired but the Pats asking price would be absurd
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lolno
Belichick isn't working for any team other than the Patriots. When he finishes with NE he'll be finished with football. The last thing he wants to do is take the chance of going to another team and it not working out.
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He cares way too much about himself to sully his reputation by potentially failing.
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lolno
Belichick isn't working for any team other than the Patriots. When he finishes with NE he'll be finished with football. The last thing he wants to do is take the chance of going to another team and it not working out.
Hahahahaha I think there's zero chance as well but being that guy took the time to write that "piece", I figured it would rustle some jimmies, why not post it here. The title fits....
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If Belichick is smart, he'll retire when Brady does. Or right before.
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If Belichick is smart, he'll retire when Brady does. Or right before.
He won 11 games without Brady.
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He won 11 games without Brady.
With the squad that went 18-1 the year prior against an easy schedule
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With the squad that went 18-1 the year prior against an easy schedule
That's true. Bill should just kill himself when Brady retires I think.
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That's true. Bill should just kill himself when Brady retires I think.
I dunno, I quite like the idea of a murder-suicide. Don't much care which way round.
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I dunno, I quite like the idea of a murder-suicide. Don't much care which way round.
Maybe they can get voted into the hall of fame the same year and light each other on fire on the big stage.
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Maybe they can get voted into the hall of fame the same year and light each other on fire on the big stage.
I'd prefer something a bit more squalid and I don't want to have to wait five years after they retire, I want it now.
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http://nypost.com/2016/01/30/giants-defensive-tackle-jay-bromley-accused-of-rape/
Classy.
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Hahaha
"Bromley was a crack baby born to a drug-addicted mom and pimp father, who in 1994 was sentenced to 8 1/2 to 25 years in prison for manslaughter after beating and tying a prostitute to a basement radiator."
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Hahaha
"Bromley was a crack baby born to a drug-addicted mom and pimp father, who in 1994 was sentenced to 8 1/2 to 25 years in prison for manslaughter after beating and tying a prostitute to a basement radiator."
I had to do a double take to see if that was actually written in the article.
Unbelievable how they snuck that in there
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How do you only get manslaughter for tying up and beating a prostitute to death?
Tommy should get his lawyers name just in case. Lol
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Giants release Will Beatty, Geoff Schwartz, Jon Beason
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It's a free agency signing but it belongs in this thread.
They signed Olivier Vernon for 5 years, $85 million, $52 million guaranteed.
That's more guaranteed money than JJ Watt got
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It's a free agency signing but it belongs in this thread.
They signed Olivier Vernon for 5 years, $85 million, $52 million guaranteed.
That's more guaranteed money than JJ Watt got
In their defense, some of this may be "injury-only" guarantees, which aren't true guarantees. May be more fluff than substance.
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Wilk is getting more expensive with each passing hour
There's nothing I love more than the taste of cum.
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Wilk is getting more expensive with each passing hour
There's nothing I love more than the taste of cum.
Not necessarily. His options get more limited as these teams jizz all their cash away. At some point he'll have to decide between the Jets' offer (if there is one) or playing out this year on the tag.
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Eli Apple - CB - Ohio State
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160429/b39428e6297cdc86f68a64a180c5a9f9.jpg)
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^ my entire draft party lol'd
There's nothing I love more than the taste of cum.
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^ my entire draft party lol'd
There's nothing I love more than the taste of cum.
you mean your one Lion's fan friend
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you mean your one Lion's fan friend
Nope
There's nothing I love more than the taste of cum.
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But there didn’t seem to be any remorse for opportunity lost in East Rutherford when the apple of the Giants’ eye turned out to be Ohio State cornerback Eli Apple, a pick so surprising, it even surprised Eli Apple, heretofore known as The Other Eli.
“He’s like a black Eli Manning,” his mother, Annie Apple, told The Post from Chicago. “The personality, his facial expressions, the whole nine."
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/05/06/giants-center-says-some-teammates-are-just-happy-to-be-there/
“The percentage of guys who are just OK to be there [in the league] is pretty high,” Richburg said. “This is pretty rare. The majority of my offensive line is not doing anything right now. . . .
“I know a lot of guys are just happy to be there. That’s the difference between them and the guys who are here.”
He's probably right, but it's a dick move to bash your fellow teammates in the media.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/05/06/giants-center-says-some-teammates-are-just-happy-to-be-there/
He's probably right, but it's a dick move to bash your fellow teammates in the media.
I'm actually OK with this. He's a young guy who was probably the best player on their line last year, he's putting in all the extra hours, and he's expecting his linemates to be as committed to succeeding as he is. I doubt that his sentiments will come as any surprise to those linemates, I imagine he speaks to them in person on a fairly regular basis and they're aware of his disappointment in their work ethic. If you're the best player in your unit and the hardest worker, I think you have the latitude to call the others out.
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I'm actually OK with this. He's a young guy who was probably the best player on their line last year, he's putting in all the extra hours, and he's expecting his linemates to be as committed to succeeding as he is. I doubt that his sentiments will come as any surprise to those linemates, I imagine he speaks to them in person on a fairly regular basis and they're aware of his disappointment in their work ethic. If you're the best player in your unit and the hardest worker, I think you have the latitude to call the others out.
I agree except for doing it in the media.
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I agree except for doing it in the media.
Maybe he has already tried doing it in private and gained no traction, and is now taking an approach of "freak you, you're not going to get away with undermining all of my hard work because you're too lazy to do anything other than that which the team mandates you to". It's the kind of thing I can totally imagine Mangold doing if he felt that his linemates weren't stepping up to the mark.
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I agree except for doing it in the media.
Calling out teammates in the media for mistakes in a game? That's a shitty move. But, calling them out for not doing the extra work that you're doing? I'm OK with that. If he's calling out every OL in the league, then he's calling out every OL in the league, teammates/coaches included.
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Maybe he has already tried doing it in private and gained no traction, and is now taking an approach of "freak you, you're not going to get away with undermining all of my hard work because you're too lazy to do anything other than that which the team mandates you to". It's the kind of thing I can totally imagine Mangold doing if he felt that his linemates weren't stepping up to the mark.
I absolutely cannot picture Mangold throwing any of his teammates under the bus like that. And we had some shitty OL players in the immediate years after our 2009 season
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I absolutely cannot picture Mangold throwing any of his teammates under the bus like that. And we had some shitty OL players in the immediate years after our 2009 season
But perhaps those guys just sucked. Richburg is basically saying they are lazy fucks. Not untalented hacks, which our excrement OL guys may well have been.
And also this is basically the same thing Demario Davis said via the media a couple years back about the team not practicing hard enough to be good enough to be a championship caliber team. If my memory serves we as a board were fairly divided on his comments. Many saw it as an indictment of Rex, others saw it as stupid to call out via the media and some saw it as an attempt at good leadership by Davis to try and get his teammates to listen, and then others said he can't say that excrement if he's not good.
Turns out 18 months later, Davis is gone and so is the coaching staff.
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I absolutely cannot picture Mangold throwing any of his teammates under the bus like that. And we had some shitty OL players in the immediate years after our 2009 season
Perhaps he should have.
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I absolutely cannot picture Mangold throwing any of his teammates under the bus like that. And we had some shitty OL players in the immediate years after our 2009 season
I don't view it as throwing anyone under the bus. I view it as an expectation that unless someone is better than him they have no excuse to not be working as hard as or harder than him; as Cane said, calling them out for a lack of talent would be a shitty thing to do because there's nothing they can about that, but calling them out for an inferior work ethic is good leadership in my book. In Mangold's time we've had some great linemen and some shitty ones, but I don't recall any whose talent has been apparently betrayed by a lack of work. If we had, I've no doubt he'd have called them out.
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Does anyone else find it funny that gap-tooth Strahan ended up with the TV career that pretty boy Tiki thought he was going to have?
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Does anyone else find it funny that gap-tooth Strahan ended up with the TV career that pretty boy Tiki thought he was going to have?
It's the difference between being totally unlikable and incredibly gay.
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http://www.inquisitr.com/3153459/is-khloe-kardashian-dating-ny-giants-player-odell-beckham-jr/
Death blow
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http://www.inquisitr.com/3153459/is-khloe-kardashian-dating-ny-giants-player-odell-beckham-jr/
Death blow
He picked the ugly one too.
RIP
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Surprised he didn't go with Bruce Jenner.
#hesgay
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/07/20/odell-beckham-i-made-josh-norman-relevant/
He's a good player, but my word is he ever a rooster.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/07/20/odell-beckham-i-made-josh-norman-relevant/
He's a good player, but my word is he ever a rooster.
He's one of those players you hope gets crushed by someone on the field. I don't wish permanent injury, just a STFU-type hit.
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It's more like Norman exposed him as a complete scumbag and mental nut job
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It's more like Norman exposed him as a complete scumbag and mental nut job
Do you know him personally? Or should we just call you a complete scumbag as well?
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http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/4vdfcw/rnfl_roast_of_the_new_york_giants_2732/
**Giants fans coping process:**
- *Eli throws interception*
- "GOD DAMMIT ELI"
- "No... No, it can't be Eli. It must have been something else"
- *rewinds game, goes still by still, looks for any other conceivable reason other than Eli that causes the interception*
- *sees Rueben Randle on bench chewing gum*
- "WHAT THE freak. WHAT. THE. freak. God dammit Randle stop distracting Eli with your loud chews during the play you know he gets distracted easily!"
- *puts full blame on Randle*
- *goes on r/NFL to point out it's Randle's fault* "If you guys look closely, Eli had literally nothing to do with the interception.."
- *fast forwards back to live game*
- *Eli has thrown another interception*
- *repeat process*
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Haha freaking Reuben Randle
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/19/josh-browns-ex-wife-reported-over-20-incidents-of-physical-violence/
It's only one side of the story, but unless she is flat out lying, it's hard to imagine there isn't more to this than a one game suspension eventually.
Classy doe.
Maybe they will cut him and we can trade them Ross Martin and Geno Smith for a bag of Cheetos and a ZJ from Kate Mara.
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Dont want to enjoy this too much because it was against the Bills but
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000688677/article/giants-coach-mcadoo-no-positives-from-210-loss-to-bills
Following the Giants' 21-0 loss to the Bills in Buffalo, coach Ben McAdoo was asked if there were any positives he could glean from the experience.
"No," he said.
Next question.
His reaction was an odd combination of relax it's just the preseason and these players should be ashamed of themselves. At one point during his post-game interview, after saying there were no positives and after saying the team needs to take a long look in the mirror, he added "I don't think I need to say much to the players. They have a lot of pride and I think they'll bounce back."
Hopefully the Giants are just that pathetically bad
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Fat Randy is trying out for the Giants, I'm guessing that they're planning to cut Josh whatsisface.
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Mara said the Giants were aware of all the allegations against Josh Brown and we're comfortable with their decision to re-sign him.
Classy
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Someone from SNY the other day tweeted about it. He was basically saying: can you imagine if it was the Jets supporting this guy? It would be a cicus but since it's the the Giants: classy.
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Someone from SNY the other day tweeted about it. He was basically saying: can you imagine if it was the Jets supporting this guy? It would be a cicus but since it's the the Giants: classy.
If the Jets supported the guy there would be a cicus.
Did you mean they're Jewish and would celebrate Sukka? That would be hilarious if it happened.
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Aw, boo hoo. Poor little fella. excrement must be tough.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17714659/odell-beckham-jr-new-york-giants-frustrated-says-not-having-fun-anymore
Here's some ideas that might help fix your problem.
1. Stop being a whiny queynte.
2. Stop playing football.
3. freak off
Someone posted this on /r/nfl and it's perfect:
You turned your games into a dick measuring contest and then complained when everyone whipped their dicks out.
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Aw, boo hoo. Poor little fella. excrement must be tough.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17714659/odell-beckham-jr-new-york-giants-frustrated-says-not-having-fun-anymore
Here's some ideas that might help fix your problem.
1. Stop being a whiny queynte.
2. Stop playing football.
3. freak off
Someone posted this on /r/nfl and it's perfect:
That is a great line
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Ruh-roh.
http://dystnow.com/2016/12/15/new-york-giants-nfl-investigation-rule-violations-vs-dallas-cowboys/
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Dock them 10 wins and all draft picks
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Ruh-roh.
http://dystnow.com/2016/12/15/new-york-giants-nfl-investigation-rule-violations-vs-dallas-cowboys/
Giants may be investigated for cheating against the Eagles last night, with someone on their sidelines using a cellphone during the game
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-may-look-into-use-of-sideline-cell-phone-use-by-giants-staff/amp/?client=ms-android-verizon
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Probably just checking his fantasy team
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Giants may be investigated for cheating against the Eagles last night, with someone on their sidelines using a cellphone during the game
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-may-look-into-use-of-sideline-cell-phone-use-by-giants-staff/amp/?client=ms-android-verizon
So our hometown rivals and division rivals are both cheaters. Makes sense.
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Just like Rutgers, get caught cheating and you still lose.
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Surprised this hasn't been posted
http://www.totalprosports.com/2017/01/04/there-were-lots-of-drugs-being-passed-around-at-that-giants-wide-receivers-yacht-party-video/
Supposedly the nfl may look into it as well
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So some football players went to a party on a yacht on their day off, and some people were doing drugs, but none of the players were. Gotcha.
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It would really be something if a "random" drug test kept key players out of a playoff game. How disappointed would Eli really be then?
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So some football players went to a party on a yacht on their day off, and some people were doing drugs, but none of the players were. Gotcha.
Pretty sure the players were doing drugs too.
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Pretty sure the players were doing drugs too.
Whoooosh
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Pretty sure the players were doing drugs too.
Trump would sue you for allegations like that.
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I hope they were all doing illegal drugs, contract herpes from sex with trannies they thought were women on the boat, and get suspended by the league forever.
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I hope they were all doing illegal drugs, contract herpes from sex with trannies they thought were women on the boat, and get suspended by the league forever.
Tommy wasn't on the boat man, he's a Jets fan.
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F*ck the Giants. That is all.
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I hope nothing comes of the party and the Giants win the Super Bowl.
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I hope nothing comes of the party and the Giants win the Super Bowl.
That boat sailed already
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hahaha
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Thank you Packers, I could not have survived another NYG-NE SB but thankfully the Giant D didn't carry overrated Eli to another one.
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Thank you Packers, I could not have survived another NYG-NE SB but thankfully the Giant D didn't carry overrated Eli to another one.
I didn't need one more day of "Go Big Blue!" everywhere I look. Thankful they are out, the sooner the better.
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Go Big Blue
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Go Big Blue
Not the same, I know you don't mean it. You must be similarly happy to have the Dolphins out.
Go Big Teal???
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I didn't need one more day of "Go Big Blue!" everywhere I look. Thankful they are out, the sooner the better.
it's gotten mighty quiet around here ;D
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http://nypost.com/2017/01/09/giants-trash-airplane-following-embarrassing-playoff-blowout/
Such a classy organization.
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Freaking Geno Smith!!!
ROTFLMAO
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Freaking Geno Smith!!!
ROTFLMAO
i thought you didnt know who he was.
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https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2017/04/13/heres-proof-eli-manning-was-in-on-giants-memorabilia-scheme/amp/
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https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2017/04/13/heres-proof-eli-manning-was-in-on-giants-memorabilia-scheme/amp/
It won't go anywhere because that email from Eli was vague. I hope it does become a major scandal but it won't.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/14/chris-christie-rips-giants-eli-manning-over-fake-memorabilia-lawsuit/
He's probably wrong, but I support anyone insulting the Giants and their players, regardless of accuracy. Chris Christie just elevated himself in my book.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/14/chris-christie-rips-giants-eli-manning-over-fake-memorabilia-lawsuit/
He's probably wrong, but I support anyone insulting the Giants and their players, regardless of accuracy. Chris Christie just elevated himself in my book.
I mean he's a former prosecutor and does have a legal background. And basically his stance was the giants are gonna lose money from this lawsuit, which I believe to be true
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/14/chris-christie-rips-giants-eli-manning-over-fake-memorabilia-lawsuit/
He's probably wrong, but I support anyone insulting the Giants and their players, regardless of accuracy. Chris Christie just elevated himself in my book.
IIRC he's a Cowboys fan...
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https://www.sbnation.com/2017/8/21/16181878/odell-beckham-jr-injury-giants-browns-nfl-preseason-2017
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Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
The #Giants are releasing QB Josh Johnson, source said. Geno Smith appears to have won the backup job
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Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
The #Giants are releasing QB Josh Johnson, source said. Geno Smith appears to have won the backup job
I'm officially rooting for an Eli injury because freak you.
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Eli injury
SBTG
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Giants better pray Eli stays healthy for 100% of the season.
GeNO shouldn't even be allowed during mop up situations
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Giants better pray Eli stays healthy for 100% of the season.
GeNO shouldn't even be allowed during mop up situations
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He's the most durable doofus in the NFL, Geno's staying on the bench.
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Nothing would make me happier this season than Geno starting games for Big Blew.
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Nothing would make me happier this season than Geno starting games for Big Blew.
Not me because he will still outplay every QB on this roster
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Not me because he will still outplay every QB on this roster
He couldn't outplay you. He is the worst QB in NFL history
Sort of like you as a poster
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He couldn't outplay you. He is the worst QB in NFL history
Sort of like you as a poster
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Are you willing to reconsider the whole suicide thing?
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He couldn't outplay you. He is the worst QB in NFL history
Sort of like you as a poster
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Because dcm is nice,
kill yourself bundle of sticks.
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Because dcm is nice,
kill yourself bundle of sticks.
a) dcm is not nice
b) sg3 can't hear you right now because he's taking a break for a few weeks
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a) dcm is not nice
b) sg3 can't hear you right now because he's taking a break for a few weeks
Thank you for the update.
HEY SG3, KILL YOURSELF bundle of sticks
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a) dcm is not nice
b) sg3 can't hear you right now because he's taking a break for a few weeks
What? Ask Heismanberg how nice the back rub I gave him the other night was
If that's not nice I don't know what is
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a) dcm is not nice
b) sg3 can't hear you right now because he's taking a break for a few weeks
wait....someone can't "hear" SFD?
are you new here?
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a) dcm is not nice
b) sg3 can't hear you right now because he's taking a break for a few weeks
Please tell me you didn't ban him.
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Please tell me you didn't ban him.
I didn't ban him.
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I didn't ban him.
Ok the curmudgeon makes me laugh.
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Ok the curmudgeon makes me laugh.
He's an oddball and an idiot, but he's funny.
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I would rather read a novel written by dcm than 1 more of sg3's posts
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Please tell me you didn't ban him.
I did.
RIP
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I did.
RIP
lol no you didn't
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lol no you didn't
sure did.
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bring sg3 back
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lol no you didn't
Added ban triggers: Member: sg3 September 04, 2017, 11:57:27 AM MBGreen Administrator
Respect his authority.
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Jesus, why?
MBGreen is such a bundle of sticks.
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bring sg3 back
Yes
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Jesus, why?
MBGreen is such a bundle of sticks.
I needed to purge
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Speaking of banned, whatever happened to Dreamers?
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Speaking of banned, whatever happened to Dreamers?
I don't think anyone banned him. He probably just died.
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I don't think anyone banned him. He probably just died.
I liked him here, he was like the new Raiderjoe.
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sg3 is the only person banned currently. The last ban to be issued was to Puck in April of last year; the log says that it was for watching Banshee.
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sg3 is the only person banned currently. The last ban to be issued was to Puck in April of last year; the log says that it was for watching Banshee.
that's a serious offense.
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that's a serious offense.
Really. Ban should still be in effect.
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Really. Ban should still be in effect.
say the word...and balloon knot is gone
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I mean... there's no way he hasn't been watching banshee.
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I watched it today eating a bag of cheetos and now my rooster is orange.... ban me bitches I double dog dare you.
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I honestly still have no idea how to ban people.
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I honestly still have no idea how to ban people.
Practice on Puck. I have faith in you. Accidental permaban?
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Practice on Puck. I have faith in you. Accidental permaban?
Meh, my main job here is raising money for the site.
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Meh, my main job here is raising money for the site.
and thread merging
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and thread merging
He is the site janitor.
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I hardly even do that anymore since Tapatalk isn't good for it. I let you monkeys excrement everywhere all summer and it was awful.
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I hardly even do that anymore since Tapatalk isn't good for it. I let you monkeys excrement everywhere all summer and it was awful.
you're welcome
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also..
banning was alot easier on ydkf (vbulletin)
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also..
banning was alot easier on ydkf (vbulletin)
bundle of sticks
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NFL is suspending former Giants kicker Josh Brown six more games for domestic violence, sources tell ESPN.
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NFL is suspending former Giants kicker Josh Brown six more games for domestic violence, sources tell ESPN.
I would make a funny joke but the NFL should make him kick off alone against a full side for an entire game. They would also allow for a dogpile ala the First Longest Yard.
Let him get hit by much bigger tougher guys for 60 minutes and maybe this bitch won't hit women.
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Nice opener for the G-men. My dream of Geno starting for Big Blew is closer to becoming reality.
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Denver's Brandon Marshall having some fun with the Giants fans:
Brandon MarshallVerified account
@BMarshh54
Brandon Marshall Retweeted Riley Harris
Come say that to my face!
12:18 AM - 19 Sep 2017
Riley Harris @RileyHarris2730
@BMarshh54 high point the football you f*ck
Cameron Arduini
@CameronJArduini
Replying to @BMarshh54
Are2nt you playing right now?? How are you tweeting??
12:19 AM - 19 Sep 2017
Twitter (https://twitter.com/BMarshh54/status/909979922780717056)
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Nothing like some goomba with a beer gut telling you to high point the ball.
(I haven't clicked the link so I just imagined the basic Giants fan)
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Its funny how 2 weeks can completely change the outlook of a team. Giants fans are now talking about tanking for a QB. I dont think any QB could succeed with a line like that...
Josh Allen would be a good fit for them though.
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Its funny how 2 weeks can completely change the outlook of a team. Giants fans are now talking about tanking for a QB. I dont think any QB could succeed with a line like that...
Josh Allen would be a good fit for them though.
The Giants can eat excrement.
In fact...they can eat excrement for a decade or longer for all I care. They've had their time in the sun.
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The Giants can eat excrement.
In fact...they can eat excrement for a decade or longer for all I care. They've had their time in the sun.
This.
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The Giants can eat excrement.
In fact...they can eat excrement for a decade or longer for all I care. They've had their time in the sun.
is this season's conversation going to be who can out-crap the other team into a worse draft pick/better qb prospect? loll
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is this season's conversation going to be who can out-crap the other team into a worse draft pick/better qb prospect? loll
Watch the Jets have a better record and the Giants taking a player like OBJ from us.
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I'm not prepared for the levels of condescension we'll have to suffer if Giants fans think their team is tanking better than ours.
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As I just saw pointed out on /r/nfl: they have scored a total of 13 points this season against worse defenses than we have faced, while we have scored 32. They are also last in the league in rushing attempts and yards.
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As I just saw pointed out on /r/nfl: they have scored a total of 13 points this season against worse defenses than we have faced, while we have scored 32. They are also last in the league in rushing attempts and yards.
Once Beckham is healthy he completely transforms that offense.
Maybe Brandon Marshall will even start to look like a football player too
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Maybe Brandon Marshall will even start to look like a football player too
He's done.
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http://deadsp.in/eTNVCn4
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Stay classy Giants fans
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http://deadsp.in/eTNVCn4
"Clazzy Giandz fanz. Nod lige dose jedz fanz. Ming wid da flahze"
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"Clazzy Giandz fanz. Nod lige dose jedz fanz. Ming wid da flahze"
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Zero Honks
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Zero Honks
2.5 honks
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"Clazzy Giandz fanz. Nod lige dose jedz fanz. Ming wid da flahze"
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Did you just have a stroke?
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Back afta dis
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Back afta dis
Thanx for getting it
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Giantslol
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http://www.totalprosports.com/2017/09/24/giants-brandon-marshall-allegedly-spit-in-a-philadelphia-eagles-fan-face-after-confrontation/
Now they have two crazy wide receivers
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HAHAHAHAHA
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61 yard FG by Eagles with no time remaining..
Midgets lose by 3
0-3
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Ahahahhaa
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That was awesome
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Lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170924/6167325c4e6d49038a2f4a6d2a317f8d.jpg)
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Not only did the Giants take a knee for the anthem, they took a knee for the first three quarters of the game. Now that's commitment.
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Not only did the Giants take a knee for the anthem, they took a knee for the first three quarters of the game. Now that's commitment.
Bravo.
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Lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170924/6167325c4e6d49038a2f4a6d2a317f8d.jpg)
Stone cold.
I'm lovin it!
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C'mon Mc a Doo Doo
You know it...pull that trigger......
It's GENOTIME!!
LOL
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C'mon Mc a Doo Doo
You know it...pull that trigger......
It's GENOTIME!!
LOL
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GEEE-NOOO
GEEE-NOOO
GEEE-NOOO
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Meh who cares about the Giants.
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Meh who cares about the Giants.
Those of us who live near NYC and canceled Sunday Ticket.
GEEEE-NOOOO
GEEEE-NOOOO
GEEEE-NOOOO
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Those of us who live near NYC and canceled Sunday Ticket.
GEEEE-NOOOO
GEEEE-NOOOO
GEEEE-NOOOO
I live near NYC and meh.
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I live near NYC....
Yeah, now.
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Yeah, now.
Most of the Giants fans I have met here are cool, they don't care about the Jets and I don't care about their team.
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Most of the Giants fans I have met here are cool, they don't care about the Jets and I don't care about their team.
Yeah, I see Jets fans complain about Giants fans, but all the Giants fans I've ever met are either indifferent towards the Jets or are willing to have intelligent conversations about them.
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Yeah, I see Jets fans complain about Giants fans, but all the Giants fans I've ever met are either indifferent towards the Jets or are willing to have intelligent conversations about them.
Recently I'd agree with this. But when Rex was headcoach giants fans hates us more than some of their divisional rivals
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Post-Rex it hasn't been as bad but I still catch occasional crap from Giants fans.
Before the season started, I was working at my once-a-week other office and overheard a Giants fan shitting on the Jets to his Patriots fan coworker. So apparently it still goes on behind our backs. BUT WHO'S LAUGHING NOW bundle of sticks?
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Recently I'd agree with this. But when Rex was headcoach giants fans hates us more than some of their divisional rivals
That's because they were jealous of us for the first time since like 1998.
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Lol
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Giants just got Folked
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Funny now but won't be laughing when the Giants end up picking before us and taking a player we all want.
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Funny now but won't be laughing when the Giants end up picking before us and taking a player we all want.
They'll freak up and win some games in garbage time. More than likely they'll hit on a pick we passed over.
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Giants play the Broncos in Denver next week.
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They'll freak up and win some games in garbage time. More than likely they'll hit on a pick we passed over.
At what week does garbage time start when you begin the season 0-4?
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I hope the turds in Brandon Marshall's excrement sandwich are nice n warm.
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I hope the turds in Brandon Marshall's excrement sandwich are nice n warm.
Yes,but I hope they're cold and soggy.
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Now that the Giants are 0-4, expect their fans to now declare they aren't watching the Giants because of the flag protests.
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I hope the turds in Brandon Marshall's excrement sandwich are nice n warm.
You know we cut him, right?
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You know we cut him, right?
He asked to be cut and was obliged.
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He asked to be cut and was obliged.
I spoke to Duff, he said we would have cut him anyway. And he told me to tell you GFY.
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haha
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Giants play the Broncos in Denver next week.
I'm going to try and catch that one. Will be busy during our game.
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Beckham hurt and crying.
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Beckham hurt and crying.
Followed by a sack/fumble.
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his ankle went 90 degrees the wrong way. #gross
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And they are losing. Lolololol. At home.
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Giants lost WRs Odell Beckham JR, Brandon Marshall and Sterling Shepard to injury today.
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And they are losing. Lolololol. At home.
To a winless team.
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Apparently all of the Giants' WRs are hurt in this game. Lol.
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Manning picked off. Boo birds out in full force. Love it.
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When the Giants lose, all the TV douches say, "blah blah, well they have lots of injuries, blah".
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Poor midget fans.
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The Giants have no one. Eli has no receivers and no offensive line. He is gonna die. If I were him, I'd check to handoffs every play and check down non-stop.
Giants have no wins and nothing to play for. And there are 11 games left in the season. IT's be different if it were week 14 or something. It's week 5. I'm going to enjoy it.
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Odell Beckham is headed for surgery, per source. He injured his leg in the fourth quarter.
He must have broken his ankle.
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He must have broken his ankle.
It looked awful. I hate seeing players injured even a Giant douche like diva Beckham
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Odell broke his fibula, Dwayne Harris broke his foot, Brandon Marshall and Sterling Shepard both sprained ankles all in the same game. Damn that's some bad luck. Oh well lol.
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Where are the blue and white Darnold jerseys?
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Where are the blue and white Darnold jerseys?
They're on the assembly line along with green and white Eli jerseys.
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They're on the assembly line along with green and white Eli jerseys.
I love and hate this so much.
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They're on the assembly line along with green and white Eli jerseys.
Oh God I can't completely rule this out right now. The world is a fucked up place.
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They're on the assembly line along with green and white Eli jerseys.
I don't even know anymore. Eli is not his brother, but he helped beat the pats twice in the superbowl. That should warrant a freaking parade around here. Trade up for a LT and give it a go.
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Please God NO on Eli
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I almost felt bad for Beckham and the Giant fans, then I think back to Christmas 2011 and nah.
Hate to see guys get hurt though, much rather see them dropping passes and blaming each other.
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What a job by Macc (other than the Snacks foulup)
Not only improved the Jets but saddled the LOLGiants with Dropsies Johnson and GeNO SMITH
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What a job by Macc (other than the Snacks foulup)
Not only improved the Jets but saddled the LOLGiants with Dropsies Johnson and GeNO SMITH
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the hackenberg foul up was worse.
But so far, he's done a decent job. Let's see how the rest of the season plays out.
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What a job by Macc (other than the Snacks foulup)
Not only improved the Jets but saddled the LOLGiants with Dropsies Johnson and GeNO SMITH
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Except Mac made the right choice with Snacks. As it currently stands Snacks only plays 60% of the defensive snaps compared to Mo's 82%. Snacks' numbers would be even lower if he was on a Bowles team that likes to primarily play in a nickel defense.
Additionally a DT with Snack's skillset and pricetag isn't as necessary in a 3-4 defense as it is in a 4-3. Mo hasn't been the player he was pre-injury/contract, but its a moot point when paying a NT $10 million dollars will never be in the budget for the defensive scheme that Bowles runs. Opting for Mo shows that Mac has the discipline to say no to luxuries this team doesn't need.
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Additionally a DT with Snack's skillset and pricetag isn't as necessary in a 3-4 defense as it is in a 4-3.
How is a 2 gap nose tackle less important in a 3 man front than a 4?
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How is a 2 gap nose tackle less important in a 3 man front than a 4?
Not less important, but the type of player is easier to find because he doesn't need to be multiple in the things he needs to do. It's great to have a NT that can penetrate and put pressure on the QB, but that's not what the position really entails. Your job is to take on blockers to allow the backers to roam around give your des better match ups. This changes a little bit based on what scheme your defense plays 2 gap vs 1 gap, but most 3-4 teams play the usual 2 gap scheme.
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the hackenberg foul up was worse.
But so far, he's done a decent job. Let's see how the rest of the season plays out.
Not to be schoolmarmly but
The post was about Jet/Midget transactions
Which include Harrison LOSS
Marshall WIN
GeNO YUUGE WIN
Tye Loss
But not Bustenberg
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Not less important, but the type of player is easier to find because he doesn't need to be multiple in the things he needs to do. It's great to have a NT that can penetrate and put pressure on the QB, but that's not what the position really entails. Your job is to take on blockers to allow the backers to roam around give your des better match ups. This changes a little bit based on what scheme your defense plays 2 gap vs 1 gap, but most 3-4 teams play the usual 2 gap scheme.
I don't understand your point at all. You appear to be trying to justify us letting him walk on the basis that he has fewer snaps in a scheme that's less suited to his abilities than the one he left. I'm not saying that at the time it wasn't understandable that they chose to put the money elsewhere, but trying to claim that it was a good decision for us to let him walk because he wasn't so scheme suitable is frankly bizarre.
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I don't understand your point at all. You appear to be trying to justify us letting him walk on the basis that he has fewer snaps in a scheme that's less suited to his abilities than the one he left. I'm not saying that at the time it wasn't understandable that they chose to put the money elsewhere, but trying to claim that it was a good decision for us to let him walk because he wasn't so scheme suitable is frankly bizarre.
A nose tackle in a 3-4 scheme plays significantly less snaps than in a 4-3 scheme. Add to fact that Bowles runs more 5 and 6 db fronts than most coaches (fronts which Harrison wouldn't play in) the right decision was made in letting Harrison walk.
Our scheme isn't suitable to pay Harrison the salary he demanded, which is that of a 4-3 dt. The money he demanded should have rightfully been saved or invested into a position that has a higher importance for our team, or in a position that demands a higher per year average (think De, olb, o-line). This is because in a salary cap league there is an opportunity cost for every dollar spent. While Harrison would have been a great player to keep and he would have undoubtedly improved our run defense, the going rate for a top tier NT is much less than the yearly average and signing bonus he was asking for.
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A nose tackle in a 3-4 scheme plays significantly less snaps than in a 4-3 scheme. Add to fact that Bowles runs more 5 and 6 db fronts than most coaches (fronts which Harrison wouldn't play in) the right decision was made in letting Harrison walk.
Our scheme isn't suitable to pay Harrison the salary he demanded, which is that of a 4-3 dt. The money he demanded should have rightfully been saved or invested into a position that has a higher importance for our team, or in a position that demands a higher per year average (think De, olb, o-line). This is because in a salary cap league there is an opportunity cost for every dollar spent. While Harrison would have been a great player to keep and he would have undoubtedly improved our run defense, the going rate for a top tier NT is much less than the yearly average and signing bonus he was asking for.
Firstly, Harrison's % of snaps played at the Giants is pretty similar to his time at the Jets. It's more of a situational call than it is scheme-dependent; a 350lb man isn't going to be able to play every snap, and you're not going to put him out there on obvious passing downs regardless of the front.
Secondly, % of snaps played is a pretty poor tool to use to determine player value. The importance of the player to your scheme, his role in it, and the ease with which he can be replaced in that scheme are the main considerations, and as hindsight is neatly demonstrating the decision to let him walk was not a good one. I don't really see how you can make any sensible argument otherwise.
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Firstly, Harrison's % of snaps played at the Giants is pretty similar to his time at the Jets. It's more of a situational call than it is scheme-dependent; a 350lb man isn't going to be able to play every snap, and you're not going to put him out there on obvious passing downs regardless of the front.
1. Last year Harrison played 160 more snaps than what he averaged as a starter with the Jets. His snap % is even higher in 2017
2. The fact that you are putting him out there on the field less is exactly why the jets shouldn't value him as highly as a 4-3 team does.
NYJ- 2013 - 45% (499)
- 2014 - 48% (485)
- 2015 - 54% (565)
NYG- 2016 - 61% (673)
- 2017 - 63%
Secondly, % of snaps played is a pretty poor tool to use to determine player value. The importance of the player to your scheme, his role in it, and the ease with which he can be replaced in that scheme are the main considerations, and as hindsight is neatly demonstrating the decision to let him walk was not a good one. I don't really see how you can make any sensible argument otherwise.
Let me explain it in another context then. I'm using % of snaps played as a proxy for how useful the players skillset is to the team.
The more valuable a players skill set is, the more valuable he is to the team.
The more valuable a player is to the team, the more the team is going to be willing to pay him.
Below are the top 25 salaries of DTs in the league. The players listed in red play nose tackle for 3-4 teams
2017 Defensive Tackle Average Rankings
1 Ndamukong Suh $19,062,500
2 Fletcher Cox $17,100,000
3 Kawann Short $16,100,000
4 Marcell Dareus $16,095,686
5 Gerald McCoy $15,866,667
6 Jurrell Casey $15,100,000
7 Malik Jackson $14,250,000
8 Linval Joseph $12,587,500
9 Michael Brockers $11,083,333
10 Geno Atkins $10,665,400
11 Brandon Williams $10,500,000
12 Mike Daniels $10,250,000
Corey Liuget $10,250,000
14 Damon Harrison $9,250,000
15 Johnathan Hankins $9,000,000
16 Bennie Logan $8,000,000
Dontari Poe $8,000,000
18 Kyle Williams $7,433,333
19 Nick Fairley $7,000,000
20 Haloti Ngata $6,000,000
21 Sylvester Williams $5,833,333
22 Chris Baker $5,250,000
23 Stacy McGee $5,000,000
24 DeForest Buckner $4,547,749
25 Derrick Shelby $4,500,000
Out of the top 25 paid Dts in the league only 2 are Nose tackles for 3-4 teams.
- Bennie Logan - A 1 year prove-it contract that is 14% lower than Harrison's yearly salary, not to mention $16MM less guaranteed
- Sylvester Williams - Contract is <6MM a year (37% lower than Harrison's) and is only guaranteed for $7MM compared to Harrison's $24MM
(You could argue Michael Brockers is now a 3-4 NT, but his deal was based on him playing in a 4-3 scheme which as you can see gets paid more)
Net-Net: 3-4 schemed teams historically don't shell out cash for nose tackles. The next highest paid nose tackles are Domata Peko (#30), Steve Mclendon (#31), and Corey Peters (#33) all of which make less than $3.8MM a year. You can disagree with my argument about value based on playing time, but contracts show 3-4 teams don't see the value in spending big money on nts. $9.25MM a year is way over market value for a 3-4 NT, even if its Damon Harrison, which is why letting Harrison walk was a good move by Mac.
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I agree that paying him $9M a year might seemexcessive, but then we wouldn't have had to if we'd extended him prior to his contract expiring. Still, even if we had paid him $9M per I think I can make a pretty convincing case with the benefit of hindsight for locking up the league's #1 player against the run and a cornerstone of what made our defensive front so good; after all, wouldn't you rather be paying Snacks $9M per annum at the moment than paying Wilkerson $14M plus bonuses? If you keep Snacks at $9M and let Wilkerson hit FA instead you're saving $12M against the cap (because you're also not paying Steve McLendon's salary). It's OK to pay someone like the best at their position when they're actually the best at their position.
Seems like an easy decision to me, but then I have the benefit of hindsight. It seems a little remiss of the front office to not recognise the importance of Harrison to the Jets' defense.
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I agree that paying him $9M a year might seemexcessive, but then we wouldn't have had to if we'd extended him prior to his contract expiring. Still, even if we had paid him $9M per I think I can make a pretty convincing case with the benefit of hindsight for locking up the league's #1 player against the run and a cornerstone of what made our defensive front so good; after all, wouldn't you rather be paying Snacks $9M per annum at the moment than paying Wilkerson $14M plus bonuses? If you keep Snacks at $9M and let Wilkerson hit FA instead you're saving $12M against the cap (because you're also not paying Steve McLendon's salary). It's OK to pay someone like the best at their position when they're actually the best at their position.
Seems like an easy decision to me, but then I have the benefit of hindsight. It seems a little remiss of the front office to not recognise the importance of Harrison to the Jets' defense.
The extension prior to the contract ending is a moot point. You don't know if we tried or not, he may have wanted to test free agency. And, it is unfair to look at it the decision with hindsight bias.
Last offseason Duff was tasked with the decision on whether he should pay one of the best nose tackles in the game 3.7x the average rate of a starting NT. (I did the math)
He decided against it and invested in Steve Mclendon whose annual costs amount to ~1/3 of the price, and guaranteed contract is 1/11 of Harrisons. With the money he saved, he invested in Wilkerson, who at the time we were all saying was the 2nd best DE in the league only behind JJ Watt. In addition, he invested the money in a position that requires more skillsets and has a higher average salary than a nose tackle, and in a player that was going to be on the field almost 30% more of the time.
I don't get how anyone can argue with the decision Mac made. It may have not worked out as we have planned thus far, but from a logic standpoint it was the right decision.
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Marshall done for the year
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quitter
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Wht
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"Blah blah blah Jets didn't respect their talent blah blah blah" it looks like teams should be thanking Duff for when he cut these guys.
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Giants HC Ben McAdoo said CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie came in today, left and now team will suspend him.
Love it.
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If you had told me in May that in October the Jets would be the class of NY football and the Giants would be a raging dumpster fire, I'd have laughed in your face.
I'm by no means a Giants hater, but this is hilarious to watch.
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Fatcesa is probably a bumbling mess. Check that, he's always a bumbling mess. Whatever is the stage beyond that. Probably yelling a lot too.
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Fatcesa is probably a bumbling mess. Check that, he's always a bumbling mess. Whatever is the stage beyond that. Probably yelling a lot too.
He's got the Yankees tonight. From what I remember he has a knack of going all day and avoiding subjects he doesn't like.
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Love it.
#circus
https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/10/11/16460270/dominique-rodgers-cromartie-suspended-left-giants
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From preseason:
http://nypost.com/2017/08/26/giants-and-jets-show-why-theyre-so-far-apart/
"The Giants’ starters looked like playoff contenders and the Jets played like a team that may contend to go winless. That was pretty clear Saturday night in the annual preseason clash, a noncompetitive scrimmage that was like the varsity facing an undermanned junior-varsity squad when the starters were in."
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Hahaha
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Apparently the giants are discussing benching Eli Manning, who of course has the longest active player streak in the lead
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Apparently the giants are discussing benching Eli Manning, who of course has the longest active player streak in the lead
With all due respect, that would mean putting Geno Smith on the field.
Which would be WRECKS Ryan Stupid. I don't think Reese and Mcadoodoo are that dumb
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With all due respect, that would mean putting Geno Smith on the field.
Which would be WRECKS Ryan Stupid. I don't think Reese and Mcadoodoo are that dumb
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It would be for Davis webb
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It would be for Davis webb
Davis? More like Gayvis. Amirite?
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I don't watch the Giants, but is Eli really the problem?
I keep seeing things about players clearly quitting. Macadoo doesn't exactly appear inspiring. And aren't a bunch of guys hurt?
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I don't watch the Giants, but is Eli really the problem?
I keep seeing things about players clearly quitting. Macadoo doesn't exactly appear inspiring. And aren't a bunch of guys hurt?
Their oline is so bad Eli is running for his life every play. That said, he's a turnover machine every year.
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Their oline is so bad Eli is running for his life every play. That said, he's a turnover machine every year.
Eli's not elite and never has been. But he's a QB that whether you credit him for the Super Bowl wins or not, lead his team to a Super Bowl multiple times. I wish we had an Eli on the Jets.
Anyway, I just don't think from what I've seen that Eli's the problem with the Giants. And it seems like a shitty way to treat the guy to bench him despite that.
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Eli's not elite and never has been. But he's a QB that whether you credit him for the Super Bowl wins or not, lead his team to a Super Bowl multiple times. I wish we had an Eli on the Jets.
Anyway, I just don't think from what I've seen that Eli's the problem with the Giants. And it seems like a shitty way to treat the guy to bench him despite that.
He's not, from what I hear they have really bad locker room issues like the Jets did last year. Small wonder that Marshall is over there.
Yeah, it would be great to have a QB that plays big in big situations (which Eli did) in conjunction with a defense that smothered Brady.
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Eli's not elite and never has been. But he's a QB that whether you credit him for the Super Bowl wins or not, lead his team to a Super Bowl multiple times. I wish we had an Eli on the Jets.
Anyway, I just don't think from what I've seen that Eli's the problem with the Giants. And it seems like a shitty way to treat the guy to bench him despite that.
This offseason the Giants should do what the Jets did this past one. Except the coach and GM should go too. Full overhaul.
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This offseason the Giants should do what the Jets did this past one. Except the coach and GM should go too. Full overhaul.
Flushing the toilet would be best for them.
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This offseason the Giants should do what the Jets did this past one. Except the coach and GM should go too. Full overhaul.
Guys like McAdoo and Koetter are why I'm wary of dumping Bowles for Morton.
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Guys like McAdoo and Koetter are why I'm wary of dumping Bowles for Morton.
I just don't get why anyone would be jumping on a first year offensive coordinator as a head coach.
I will say it's impressive that he's has success with a pile of turds and not an elite QB.
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I think that is what will surely happen. My guess is Reese, McAdoo and most of the rest of the CS are toast and that elderly expensive mistakes like Brandon Marshall, DRC and others particularly on the OL will be jettisoned.
It's a strong possibility also that locker room cancer OBJ will be traded for players or draft picks before next April
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Their O Line has been hot garbage. Richburg is decent and Pugh is good, and they were both out last week. Jerry Reese should be fired just for the decision to trot out Ereck Flowers at LT this year. Reminds me of when the Jets told everyone Wayne Hunter would be serviceable.
He also has no running game to speak of. Shepard and Engram are good targets but Shepard is a slot receiver and Engram is a rookie.
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.....elderly expensive mistakes like Brandon Marshall
It's almost too bad there isn't a third sinking ship in New York he can hop on next year.
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It's almost too bad there isn't a third sinking ship in New York he can hop on next year.
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Their O Line has been hot garbage. Richburg is decent and Pugh is good, and they were both out last week. Jerry Reese should be fired just for the decision to trot out Ereck Flowers at LT this year. Reminds me of when the Jets told everyone Wayne Hunter would be serviceable.
He also has no running game to speak of. Shepard and Engram are good targets but Shepard is a slot receiver and Engram is a rookie.
You mean Dave DeGuglielmo's "unless someone shoots me dead" comment? If you're referencing that situation then I think you're required to call that phrase out specifically.
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Rotoshart:
Multiple players told ESPN's Josina Anderson the team has given up on coach Ben McAdoo.
"Guys are giving up on the season, just don't care anymore. McAdoo has lost this team...Throws us under the bus all the time. Runs us into the ground and people wonder why we’ve been getting got." This comes after speculation players quit on McAdoo during Sunday’s 51-17 loss to the Rams. McAdoo was forced to give up playcalling after Week 6 and has been criticized for suspending Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Janoris Jenkins. Despite being a year removed from the playoffs, the Giants have been a 2017 disaster and could be forced to make changes after the season
No way he makes it through the season. I hope he does and the circus continues.
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I hope he panics and starts Geno. I'll DVR a Giants game for the first time since we played them.
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I hope he panics and starts Geno. I'll DVR a Giants game for the first time since we played them.
I can't see any reason for them to play Geno unless Eli and their other shitty rookie QB both go down. They all know Geno isn't anyone's answer. He was just a backup plan in case they were in the playoff hunt and Eli got hurt. They'd have a guy who's played before.
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Yeah, if they pull Eli I think it will be Webb who gets the start.
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please god...dont let the giants draft Darnold.
they should have to eat excrement at the QB position for a decade or 2. freak them.
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sg3 mode engaged
McApoo
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please god...dont let the giants draft Darnold.
they should have to eat excrement at the QB position for a decade or 2. freak them.
Yeah, I'm not a Giants hater, but if they get Darnold I'm going to be furious.
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Yeah, I'm not a Giants hater, but if they get Darnold I'm going to be furious.
I hate teams like the Colts and Packers who've had franchise QBs back to back. I don't want to see the Giants be afforded the same luxury. freak that noise.
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They have to lose to the 9ers this weekend and then somehow out lose the abrpwms the rest of the way. Not happening
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They have to lose to the 9ers this weekend and then somehow out lose the abrpwms the rest of the way. Not happening
Did you have a stroke halfway through this post?
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They have to lose to the 9ers this weekend and then somehow out lose the abrpwms the rest of the way. Not happening
I wonder if abrpwms will trade up for Darnold at the draft.
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Did you have a stroke halfway through this post?
Sheldon Richardson
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They have to lose to the 9ers this weekend and then somehow out lose the abrpwms the rest of the way. Not happening
Let's go Big Blew!!!
Seriously, Giants, win this one. 49ers might not draft a QB now though.
I wonder if abrpwms will trade up for Darnold at the draft.
If history is our guide they will trade out of the pick so someone else can get him.
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Lolololol..
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back to back embarrassments for the classy giants.
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back to back embarrassments for the classy giants.
Their fans quit watching once obj went down.
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Their fans quit watching once obj went down.
their fans can enjoy a excrement sandwich
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Lololol..... oh wait when the giants lose next week they’ll take the #2 pick from the 49ers.
No lol.
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This may seem like an absurd question given the state of the Giants... But hypothetically if the Giants draft Darnold or Rosen, and the Jets end up with status quo at the QB position, which team would you say has a better future?
This scenario would be beyond frustrating, and I'd say there's a decent chance of this happening
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Better with Rosen
Worse with Darnchez
And this assumes Jets won't take one of the other of the 5 potential franchise QBs when they pick at 7 or 8 with 5 wins or 10 or 11 with 6 wins
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Better with Rosen
Worse with Darnchez
And this assumes Jets won't take one of the other of the 5 potential franchise QBs when they pick at 7 or 8 with 5 wins or 10 or 11 with 6 wins
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Imma let someone else take this one
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Darnchez
sg3 mode engaged
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This may seem like an absurd question given the state of the Giants... But hypothetically if the Giants draft Darnold or Rosen, and the Jets end up with status quo at the QB position, which team would you say has a better future?
This scenario would be beyond frustrating, and I'd say there's a decent chance of this happening
Depends if the QB ends up sucking taint. Same as always.
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This may seem like an absurd question given the state of the Giants... But hypothetically if the Giants draft Darnold or Rosen, and the Jets end up with status quo at the QB position, which team would you say has a better future?
This scenario would be beyond frustrating, and I'd say there's a decent chance of this happening
Until the Jets prove otherwise, the Giants are generally a better run organization. Right now, the Giants are a mess. But if both teams ended the season with the same record, and both regimes were removed, the Giants job would have a far longer line of hopefuls.
I'm hopeful that right now the Jets current regime proves to have staying power. Right now, that's what would put the Jets ahead long-term.
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I actually wanted the Giants to win this past week. Wow.
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I'm hopeful that right now the Jets current regime proves to have staying power. Right now, that's what would put the Jets ahead long-term.
Barring a disastrous last 6 games I'd say Duff and Bowles are staying. Maybe the result of low expectations but I can't see them getting canned when the team has actually looked better than anyone thought and has a long term plan in place.
Sorry, MBGreen.
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Barring a disastrous last 6 games I'd say Duff and Bowles are staying. Maybe the result of low expectations but I can't see them getting canned when the team has actually looked better than anyone thought and has a long term plan in place.
Sorry, MBGreen.
I agree. My point is that I'm hoping it's something that continues. Coming into the year, I felt Maccagnan had a lot to prove in terms of acquiring talent. Halfway through this season, I feel a lot more comfortable with him.
A few weeks ago, I wanted an interim head coach. Now, I think Bowles just might have the right stuff to lead a rebuilt team.
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https://deadspin.com/giants-fan-heckles-giants-players-tumbles-over-railing-1820411002/amp
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https://deadspin.com/giants-fan-heckles-giants-players-tumbles-over-railing-1820411002/amp
Giants misery. I enjoy it.
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I was happy to see them win. Would like to see them win their way out of a top draft pick now that they're safely out of playoff contention. Hoping for a Buffaloesque run of futility for the G-men.
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I was happy to see them win. Would like to see them win their way out of a top draft pick now that they're safely out of playoff contention. Hoping for a Buffaloesque run of futility for the G-men.
It doesn’t matter which lottery ticket they have.
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It doesn’t matter which lottery ticket they have.
Well, this is true, but why take the chance?
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/insane-untapped-potential-giants-backup-qb-geno-smith-article-1.3653113
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/insane-untapped-potential-giants-backup-qb-geno-smith-article-1.3653113
Lol
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I can not begin to tell you how much I hope that the Giants pass on a star prospect in the draft because Geno.
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I can not begin to tell you how much I hope that the Giants pass on a star prospect in the draft because Geno.
Come on, we can all hope but that’s not even close to happening
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Come on, we can all hope but that’s not even close to happening
Best they can hope for is that he has a decent game or 2 and they get a 7th round comp. pick when someone else overpays him as a backup.
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Come on, we can all hope but that’s not even close to happening
Depends on how retarded Reese is, if they keep him.
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Lol
Most useless pile of BS in sports history.
So brilliant he got his jaw broken because he stiffed a teammate out of a miserable 600 bucks owed for an appearance at a benefit
So brilliant he stormed out of the draft player room because he wasn't picked in round one
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Depends on how retarded Reese is, if they keep him.
That’s the thing, I could see Reese doing it- he is retarded enough, but probably not in a situation where his job is on the line
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2016 1st rounder Eli Apple was a healthy scratch tonight.
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2016 1st rounder Eli Apple was a healthy scratch tonight.
I think I read something about his mom having brain surgery.
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I think I read something about his mom having brain surgery.
He still sucks
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I think I read something about his mom having brain surgery.
That’s correct, but he’s also really really bad
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That’s correct, but he’s also really really bad
Well there's that too.
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https://nypost.com/2017/11/25/eli-apples-attitude-towards-criticism-led-to-near-walk-out/
Wasn't all about his Mom's surgery after all. Maybe there was something to that criticism in the draft of him not being able to cook.
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Hahah what a douche
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Maybe next season with at least a semi.competent NFL head coach, the kid will probably do better
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Giants have been officially eliminated from playoff contention.
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Geno starting for the Giants now.
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Geno starting for the Giants now.
Lol. I hope he starts and plays well. Then they decide to go with him long-term.
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ITS HAPPENING
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They've announced that Davis will also play. They're basically starting the 2019 preseason this weekend.
They offered Manning the chance to play the first couple of snaps so he could keep his streak alive and he turned it down.
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Ian Rapoport
The future is now? The #Giants will start Geno Smith on Sunday.
A tweet never looked so good. Never would have predicted this.
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A tweet never looked so good. Never would have predicted this.
DVR time.
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Lol. I hope he starts and plays well. Then they decide to go with him long-term.
Please please please let this happen.
If only dcm worked for the Giants... first pass- *completion*... "when can we extend Geno"
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Geno starting for the Giants now.
awesome!
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This coach has the nerve to stand up there and say Geno Smith is his best option to win on Sunday? Dat he’s got a game plan for Geno Smith? I haven’t seen uh gameplan AWWWLL YEAHHHH from dis guy!!!
SINCE HE BEEN DA COACH DEY HAVENT SCORED 30 POINTS, EVAHH!!!
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Mike Franceser
@MikeFrancesaNY (https://twitter.com/MikeFrancesaNY/status/935622017373569029)
TWO HUNDRED AND TEN STRAIGHT TIMES!!!! And now he's nawt bettah dan Geno's Myth!!! YOUAH SAID DAT WITH A STRAIGHT FACE!
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My brother is a big Giants fan. He's really pissed off right now.
The Giants are out-Jets-ing the Jets this year.
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I hope they sign McAdoo to a 10 yr extension.
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I'm curious how Geno does. He has physical skills to do OK. I just don't trust him as a leader, and that will hold him back unless he lights it up, which he's probably not good enough to do. Still, I don't think he's worse than Eli at this stage.
That said, I can't believe they broke Eli's streak for Geno. I'd get it for Davis Webb. Eli has done too much for the Giants franchise to bench him for Geno.
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I'm curious how Geno does. He has physical skills to do OK. I just don't trust him as a leader, and that will hold him back unless he lights it up, which he's probably not good enough to do. Still, I don't think he's worse than Eli at this stage.
That said, I can't believe they broke Eli's streak for Geno. I'd get it for Davis Webb. Eli has done too much for the Giants franchise to bench him for Geno.
They have no o line and no run game. Shepard and Engram are both really good, but I don’t think that’s enough for Geno to lean on.
It would be freaking hilarious if he plays better than Eli has though.
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Man the Giants are getting raked over the coals all over the media. Eli Manning is damn near crying during interviews. Glorious.
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They have no o line and no run game. Shepard and Engram are both really good, but I don’t think that’s enough for Geno to lean on.
It would be freaking hilarious if he plays better than Eli has though.
Sterling Shepard was inactive last weekend and I can't imagine he's desperate to force his way back to fitness this week either, and Engram has been struggling to catch Manning's passes so I don't see how he's going to be any better at getting hold of Geno's desperate chucks.
They're up against one of the worst secondaries in the league and I expect him to give their stats a good padding.
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They might want to remind Geno what time the game is.
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I hope the giants fans suffer....this is great.
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Best case scenario is Geno leads the Giants to enough wins that they end up with a worse pick.
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I look at Eli the same way I would hope a Mets fan looks at Jeter. I hate the team he plays for, but I respect the athlete and the dignified way in which he represented this city over the course of his career.
This is a total disgrace that speaks to the higher ups inability to be accountable. It wasn't Eli that decided to go into the year with no left tackle, and a excrement running game.
Jerry Reese has been allowed to skate on the draft record of Ernie Accorsi the entire time he's been there. Inexplicably, he was allowed to completely throw Coughlin under the bus despite putting together a historically inept defense. Now, despite being the architect of this absolute excrement squad, him and their shithead of a head coach are trying to place blame where it doesn't belong.
Eli's meant too much to that organization and has delivered too many trophies to their case to be benched for Geno freaking Smith.
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Sign Eli in 2018.
Revenge Tour 2018
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Sign Eli in 2018.
Revenge Tour 2018
There are going to be a lot of interesting QBs on the market. Eli could be another one, though I expect him to go to Jacksonville to reunite with Coughlin.
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I look at Eli the same way I would hope a Mets fan looks at Jeter. I hate the team he plays for, but I respect the athlete and the dignified way in which he represented this city over the course of his career.
This is a total disgrace that speaks to the higher ups inability to be accountable. It wasn't Eli that decided to go into the year with no left tackle, and a excrement running game.
Jerry Reese has been allowed to skate on the draft record of Ernie Accorsi the entire time he's been there. Inexplicably, he was allowed to completely throw Coughlin under the bus despite putting together a historically inept defense. Now, despite being the architect of this absolute excrement squad, him and their shithead of a head coach are trying to place blame where it doesn't belong.
Eli's meant too much to that organization and has delivered too many trophies to their case to be benched for Geno freaking Smith.
As much as I hate the Giants I've never hated Eli. Actually rooted for him in that first Super Bowl.
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Geno is going to get booed soooo bad. If I lived closer, I'd troll the game in a Jets jersey.
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I'll be in Florida of all things.
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There are going to be a lot of interesting QBs on the market. Eli could be another one, though I expect him to go to Jacksonville to reunite with Coughlin.
He's going to be 38 next season. I don't dislike him but I think that "interesting" is going a bit far. I suspect he'll see what the Giants do in the spring as far as coaching and personnel are concerned, and then make a decision on whether or not he retires. I can't see him going anywhere else.
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Surprised at how much I don't enjoy seeing this.
https://twitter.com/pleonardnydn/status/935616011054743555
Dude deserves better, but I don't think this is McAdoo's doing. This is all about medium term personnel decisions, which means it's Reese.
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I look at Eli the same way I would hope a Mets fan looks at Jeter. I hate the team he plays for, but I respect the athlete and the dignified way in which he represented this city over the course of his career.
This is a total disgrace that speaks to the higher ups inability to be accountable. It wasn't Eli that decided to go into the year with no left tackle, and a excrement running game.
Jerry Reese has been allowed to skate on the draft record of Ernie Accorsi the entire time he's been there. Inexplicably, he was allowed to completely throw Coughlin under the bus despite putting together a historically inept defense. Now, despite being the architect of this absolute excrement squad, him and their shithead of a head coach are trying to place blame where it doesn't belong.
Eli's meant too much to that organization and has delivered too many trophies to their case to be benched for Geno freaking Smith.
So much of this is true. freak the Giants for this. Eli has one of the longest starting game streaks in the history of the sport. He has delivered two Lombardi trophies and is a future Hall of famer. He is being benched for Geno Smith, more or less because the team needs a spark in a lost season in which Eli hasn't been a disaster. No one would have ever done this to Peyton or farve, or Brady. This is ridiculous.
freak the Giants. I hope Geno throws 10 interceptions and they move over to Davis Webb, and he throws 10 more and then they put Eli back in the next week and he wins out. He flips the Giants the bird on his way out and then they don't have a QB of the future.
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He's going to be 38 next season. I don't dislike him but I think that "interesting" is going a bit far. I suspect he'll see what the Giants do in the spring as far as coaching and personnel are concerned, and then make a decision on whether or not he retires. I can't see him going anywhere else.
Fair, though I would at least trust him in big spots more than someone like McCown. He's a below average starting QB, and I don't even think he's BTG at this stage.
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...for Geno? Why Reese, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world... but for Geno?!
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For Geno Smith, I laughed a good half hour. I don't understand the logic, I really don't, this is too funny.
BTW I heard on the radio that this didn't come from Reese, it came from above.
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Apparently Geno Smith will basically act as a placeholder while Davis Webb gets first-team reps during practice so he can start for the last few games of the season.
So in addition to his horrible supporting cast, Geno will be going into games as the starter while never getting and continuing not to get first-team practice reps.
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Two beautiful dream happenings for Jet fans this month
1. GeNO starting for the "clazzy Goindz"
2. the fat boring blowhard waddling out of WFAN on December 15
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Should the Jets sign Eli?
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I love that the Giants are shitting on Eli....maybe you should've put on that Chargers jersey, poopchute. hahahahaha
#karma
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Geno tears ACL on first play, Davis Webb tears his on next play. Eli comes back in, leads Giants to win out, dropping their draft slot as low as possible, then requests to be released. Goes to Redskins after Cousins leaves and shits all over Giants for the next 3 years.
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I mean at the very least, even if the Giants draft Darnold or Rosen, they come out with egg on their face from this whole fiasco and essentially have to clean the entire franchise out.
It would be phenomenal if they kept Reese and/or Mcadoo around, and Geno put up an great 5 game stretch to make them hesitate about drafting a QB. Its highly unlikely, but boy would it be awesome for them to go all in on Geno (or even Webb) and have it fall apart next year.
Also, for once, the NY Jets are not the circus in town.
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I told someone that I would bet every dollar I had and borrow as much as I could to bet that Geno isn't winning out.
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Also, for once, the NY Jets are not the circus in town.
But we still suck
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But we still suck
The Giants brass getting lit up like an xmas tree is more entertaining than our usual suckage, thankfully.
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Should the Jets sign Eli?
No
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I love that the Giants are shitting on Eli....maybe you should've put on that Chargers jersey, poopchute. hahahahaha
#karma
Yeah I’m sure he’s really sad he wasn’t a charger. Like 2 Super Bowls sad
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Yeah I’m sure he’s really sad he wasn’t a charger. Like 2 Super Bowls sad
I don't care if he's sad. He and his goofy father pouted when the Charger selected him, that's a bitch move.
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Apparently Geno Smith will basically act as a placeholder while Davis Webb gets first-team reps during practice so he can start for the last few games of the season.
So in addition to his horrible supporting cast, Geno will be going into games as the starter while never getting and continuing not to get first-team practice reps.
If this is the case, why would they choose to let Geno play over Eli? You'd think Manning would need the starter reps far less than Geno, so he could afford to give them up.
What a mess the Giants are.
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But we still suck
Yeah, but we suck a lot less than most thought. From the outside looking in, it looks like the Giants can't get out of their own way right now.
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I've been burned a couple of times making fun of the Giants when they were circusey. As soon as I think they are a joke and the Jets are the class in town, they luck into an Odell Beckham or something else and they are in the mix again.
As a "freak the Giants" believer, the best thing that could happen is them not clearing house this offseason.
I can't see any way in the world that their pedo-looking coach is back next year. They'll probably bail on Reese too, but he at least has a chance to stick around. He shouldn't but he does.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/33/2d/34/332d34e77923a478cdb659bdc2d810d6.jpg)
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Should the Jets sign Eli?
If our other option is McCown again, yes. I'd rather have a late 30s QB with an uncanny knack for winning than a later 30s QB with an uncanny knack for losing.
Hopefully we'll have better options.
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I've been burned a couple of times making fun of the Giants when they were circusey. As soon as I think they are a joke and the Jets are the class in town, they luck into an Odell Beckham or something else and they are in the mix again.
As a "freak the Giants" believer, the best thing that could happen is them not clearing house this offseason.
I can't see any way in the world that their pedo-looking coach is back next year. They'll probably bail on Reese too, but he at least has a chance to stick around. He shouldn't but he does.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/33/2d/34/332d34e77923a478cdb659bdc2d810d6.jpg)
0% chance macadoo stays. If they keep Reese they are retarded, he is the worse offender and has a criminal history of draft picks.
My guess is they luck into Josh Rosen. Darnold going back to school would freak them though.
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Should the Jets sign Eli?
No
Never
No
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Dan Duggan
McAdoo said that Eli and Davis Webb ran the scout team in practice today.
Lawl.
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Think Eli might be a little motivated if we signed him to stay in NY and play for the Jets?
What else have we got going on?
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Think Eli might be a little motivated if we signed him to stay in NY and play for the Jets?
What else have we got going on?
he's too close to your age.
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A two time Super Bowl winner running scout teams. freak me.
Based on the reaction of the Giants fans right now, I honestly think that if we signed Eli next season a not insignificant number of them would be cheering for us - especially if Reese is still there.
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A two time Super Bowl winner running scout teams. freak me.
Based on the reaction of the Giants fans right now, I honestly think that if we signed Eli next season a not insignificant number of them would be cheering for us - especially if Reese is still there.
firemanedjr would jump ship again, this time back to the Jets.
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he's too close to your age.
Again, I'd much prefer a better option. But let's say we don't land a top QB in the draft, or we do but he's not going to be an option as a rookie, and our choices are similar to this year + Eli. I thank McCown for his service, give his 15 to Kearse and get a pen out for Eli.
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Just weighing in to say I'd absolutely take Eli as a viable plan C to hold the fort next year if it appears they aren't going to pick high enough in the draft to land who they want, AND they miss on Cousins, who I'd happily give a big contract.
I think the better question is, given likely interest in Jacksonville, Denver and possibly Washington if Cousins leaves (which would be a real freak you to the Giants), why would he come here? Just to stay in NY?
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Just weighing in to say I'd absolutely take Eli as a viable plan C to hold the fort next year if it appears they aren't going to pick high enough in the draft to land who they want, AND they miss on Cousins, who I'd happily give a big contract.
I think the better question is, given likely interest in Jacksonville, Denver and possibly Washington if Cousins leaves (which would be a real freak you to the Giants), why would he come here? Just to stay in NY?
Lives here, family here, kids in school.
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I honestly can't see him going anywhere that doesn't give him an immediate shot at one more ring, and that's probably not us. Dude's got two more years left tops IMO, and he's not going to want to see them out playing 8-8 football.
I still think retirement is the likeliest option if he doesn't stay on with the new head coach at the Giants, but if I had to pick another team for him to go to it would have to be Jacksonville. They've got the makings of a really good team, his old boss is there, and the AFC South is full of basketcase teams who can never seem to get their excrement together long enough to be convincing so the division is probably there for the winning. And Jacksonville is close enough to New York that he can probably find a way to keep the family at home and travel between the two on a weekly basis if that's really what he wants.
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If we get a year better and have a QB who doesn't literally throw away 2 wins, we're right there. Hell, we're almost there now.
And we would have the one guy with a positive history vs New England. They can't last too much longer than Eli.
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If we get a year better and have a QB who doesn't literally throw away 2 wins, we're right there. Hell, we're almost there now.
And we would have the one guy with a positive history vs New England. They can't last too much longer than Eli.
We have no offensive line. Without that, we're not contending.
Now if we could get Weston Richburg to sign in FA, we have the start of something interesting.
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Mara and Tisch are into full CYA mode.
http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/55152/how-giants-decision-to-move-on-from-eli-manning-as-starter-went-down
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We have no offensive line. Without that, we're not contending.
Now if we could get Weston Richburg to sign in FA, we have the start of something interesting.
I love it. Add Richburg to the Jumbo Elliot/Kareem McKenzie pile of quality offensive lineman who switched New York teams.
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We have no offensive line. Without that, we're not contending.
Now if we could get Weston Richburg to sign in FA, we have the start of something interesting.
So you're writing off next year too? If we're not in position to draft a top QB maybe we get an LT, sign a guy or two.
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So you're writing off next year too? If we're not in position to draft a top QB maybe we get an LT, sign a guy or two.
I'm not writing it off, but I'm not expecting a sub .500 team to be a legitimate Super Bowl contender next year.
I think we will be quite aggressive in FA this offseason, because there's no value in sitting on cap space. The draft is stacked with QBs this time round but as I understand things a little sparser for OL, so I would expect us to be very interested in premier FAs on the line. Richburg is the standout FA to my eyes; he might well want out of the dumpster fire, and the Giants aren't going to have the money to compete in FA. I don't see an awful lot to get excited about at tackle.
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I'm not writing it off, but I'm not expecting a sub .500 team to be a legitimate Super Bowl contender next year.
I think we will be quite aggressive in FA this offseason, because there's no value in sitting on cap space. The draft is stacked with QBs this time round but as I understand things a little sparser for OL, so I would expect us to be very interested in premier FAs on the line. Richburg is the standout FA to my eyes; he might well want out of the dumpster fire, and the Giants aren't going to have the money to compete in FA. I don't see an awful lot to get excited about at tackle.
Richburg would be a good signing. Maybe we have an edge since he wouldn't have to move. My only concern is that he was IR'd for an entire year for a concussion. That's pretty rough.
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We can get as deep into this as you want, I don't follow the draft as you might guess. All I'm saying is Eli would be a huge upgrade to where we are now to say the least. We're rolling with Josh McCown for the foreseeable future, have no QB of the future on the roster with any promise as far as we can see. If this is where we are and Eli is an option, get him, a pretty simple statement.
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If the Jets get Manning, they immediately have to spend on two things: offensive line, and cornerback. Get those two things, then address receiver, running back, and linebacker in the draft, and this could be a legitimate playoff team next year.
You take the chance and run. Worry about drafting a QB in a year or two.
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If the Jets get Manning, they immediately have to spend on two things: offensive line, and cornerback. Get those two things, then address receiver, running back, and linebacker in the draft, and this could be a legitimate playoff team next year.
You take the chance and run. Worry about drafting a QB in a year or two.
There's improvement we have to make no mater what happens. The D is young and figures to be good, yes we need CBs, most teams do. We'll have (we hope) Enunwa and Anderson, maybe still Kearse at WR with ASJ at TE. We have good RBs, fix up the line and we have a good chance. Throw Eli into the list of Cousins, etc, and I'll try not to think about all the salty Giant fans watching Eli play for the Jets. It would be similar to when we got Parcells, except that upset the Pats and Giants fans all in one shot.
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freaking A guys, I was trolling.
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freaking A guys, I was trolling.
Ok, but the more we talk about it and I think about it, why the f*ck not?
Again, we have Josh McCown right now as our best chance to win games, and he has one of the worst records of all time.
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Trolling or not, I'd bring in Manning.
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This was posted by a friend of mine, long time Giants fan.
So today is official I am no longer a NY Giants fan. I will be selling all my Giants memorabilia this weekend on Ebay. #NOTMYQB
Seems they don't take to adversity as well as we do.
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This was posted by a friend of mine, long time Giants fan.
Seems they don't take to adversity as well as we do.
That's ridiculous. You're giving up a lifetime of fanhood because they benched your QB? I disagree with the benching but come on.
Forget adversity. How do these people eat if their mothers are unavailable for a breast feeding?
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This was posted by a friend of mine, long time Giants fan.
Seems they don't take to adversity as well as we do.
He'll be giving up his Jets fandom next year.
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That's ridiculous. You're giving up a lifetime of fanhood because they benched your QB? I disagree with the benching but come on.
Forget adversity. How do these people eat if their mothers are unavailable for a breast feeding?
When I was 10 I dropped the Mets because they traded Dave Jush and Tom Seaver on the same day, and became a Dodger fan.
After that I've dealt with much worse.
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When I was 10 I dropped the Mets because they traded Dave Jush and Tom Seaver on the same day, and became a Dodger fan.
After that I've dealt with much worse.
You're allowed to act like a child when you're 10.
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I was ready to give up being a Jet fan if they DIDN'T remove GeNO from their roster at the end of 2016
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That's ridiculous. You're giving up a lifetime of fanhood because they benched your QB? I disagree with the benching but come on.
Now imagine if their starting QB had been injured with the backups in preseason because the team wanted Geno to play with the starters. They'd burn down every Buffalo Wild Wings in the tristate area.
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Now imagine if their starting QB had been injured with the backups in preseason because the team wanted Geno to play with the starters. They'd burn down every Buffalo Wild Wings in the tristate area.
That would smell delicious.
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I'd be down with having Eli for a couple years. Go all in on OL in the next draft and FA. Why the hell not?
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I'd be down with having Eli for a couple years. Go all in on OL in the next draft and FA. Why the hell not?
Because we’re finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel for this rebuild and that’s exactly what you do to freak it up. Eli would be another band-aid. An old band aid that’s not that good.
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Eli can freak off
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Eli can freak off
You would love to be a Giants fan right now, they're about to fire everyone.
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I'll be watching Jets vs Chioefs on Sunday at one and hoping the Jets keep Alex Smith's decline going strong
But the 4 PM comedy spectacular from Oakland starring that absolute worst QB in NFL history is a MUST WATCH LAUGHFEST
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You would love to be a Giants fan right now, they're about to fire everyone.
they can hire Bowles
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they can hire Bowles
Reunited with Geno, names him the starter, someone punches his lights out in camp.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
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Because we’re finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel for this rebuild and that’s exactly what you do to freak it up. Eli would be another band-aid. An old band aid that’s not that good.
+1
Please don't treat this team like its right on the cusp of winning a SB. We applauded the Jets for finally rebuilding the right way in the offseason, and cutting all deadweight and focusing on developing young players and the team. Lets not the bandaids on this and build a longterm contender.
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+1
Please don't treat this team like its right on the cusp of winning a SB. We applauded the Jets for finally rebuilding the right way in the offseason, and cutting all deadweight and focusing on developing young players and the team. Lets not the bandaids on this and build a longterm contender.
You still need someone to play QB, and unless someone falls in our lap our QB is Josh McCown. Nobody is saying sign Eli to a big contact or build around him, but as we stand now he's a huge upgrade and wouldn't be blocking the progress of any future star we have on the team.
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You still need someone to play QB, and unless someone falls in our lap our QB is Josh McCown. Nobody is saying sign Eli to a big contact or build around him, but as we stand now he's a huge upgrade and wouldn't be blocking the progress of any future star we have on the team.
Unless Eli is willing to take a team friendly deal and come here to mentor our 1st round QB pick, I want nothing to do with him.
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Unless Eli is willing to take a team friendly deal and come here to mentor our 1st round QB pick, I want nothing to do with him.
Same here, I'm tired of retreads. Let's just keep our current, average, cheap journeyman while we try to find a franchise QB. Eli should go to a team that's ready for the playoffs and needs a better QB.
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Same here, I'm tired of retreads. Let's just keep our current, average, cheap journeyman while we try to find a franchise QB. Eli should go to a team that's ready for the playoffs and needs a better QB.
I don’t see any reason he wouldn’t go to Jacksonville. Coughlin, emerging borderline top defense, strong run game, decent oline.
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I don’t see any reason he wouldn’t go to Jacksonville. Coughlin, emerging borderline top defense, strong run game, decent oline.
They've also got an extremely good WR corps when AR15 and Benn are back off IR.
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I still see a good chance of him staying with the Giants. They will get guys back from IR, likely a fresh start in the front office. Not saying it will happen, but I think it's right up there with the other options. Depends how pissed he is at the owner.
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I still see a good chance of him staying with the Giants. They will get guys back from IR, likely a fresh start in the front office. Not saying it will happen, but I think it's right up there with the other options. Depends how pissed he is at the owner.
Maybe, but that might become an uncomfortable situation if they draft Darnold or Tosen
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Maybe, but that might become an uncomfortable situation if they draft Darnold or Tosen
Rex likes Tosen
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I don’t see any reason he wouldn’t go to Jacksonville. Coughlin, emerging borderline top defense, strong run game, decent oline.
Might choose to retire instead. His dad suggested the possibility in a recent interview.
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Davis Webb inactive. Lol.
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Davis Webb inactive. Lol.
this is geno's team meow.
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Jets beat Chiefs
And now for some fun
IT'S GENO TIME!!!
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3 and OUT.
vintage Geno
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Lynch takes it to the house
Raiders 7
Genos. 0
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3 and OUT AGAIN
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4th possession
GeNO finally leads the Giants to a first down
On an encroachment penalty
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GeNO with the classic GeNO sack/fumble.
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I think the entire Giants team is injured.
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I think the entire Giants team is injured.
The Raiders felt bad so they injured both their starting receivers.
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Geno!!!
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Geno Smith ripped Rex Ryan: “I did see one of my ex-coaches say he didn’t want me to be his quarterback. That really upset me. I saved his job in 2013. We fought our derriere for him both years. For him to say that shows how much of a coward he is.”
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Geno Smith ripped Rex Ryan: “I did see one of my ex-coaches say he didn’t want me to be his quarterback. That really upset me. I saved his job in 2013. We fought our derriere for him both years. For him to say that shows how much of a coward he is.”
lmao
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Geno Smith ripped Rex Ryan: “I did see one of my ex-coaches say he didn’t want me to be his quarterback. That really upset me. I saved his job in 2013. We fought our derriere for him both years. For him to say that shows how much of a coward he is.”
I actually saw Rex say that this morning on Sunday Countdown and it didn't even occur to me at the time what a cunty thing that was to say, but it really was. I'm no lover of Geno, but that was some bullshit.
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I actually saw Rex say that this morning on Sunday Countdown and it didn't even occur to me at the time what a cunty thing that was to say, but it really was. I'm no lover of Geno, but that was some bullshit.
Rex is a POS first and foremost.
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Freak both of them.
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lol at the idea of Geno saving anyone's job
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If you start Geno Smith, you get what you deserve.
As for Rex's comment, I didn't see it, but I don't think he was wrong to say it. First, Geno was forced on him by Idzik. Let's not forget that it was Idzik's call that got Sanchez injured in garbage time.
Rex is also paid now to give his opinion. Other sports personalities are defending him today because he did exactly what he's paid to do: give his honest opinion, no matter how you might feel about it.
Also, freak Geno.
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McAdoo fired
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McAdoo fired
From my friend, a cowboys fan:
“Lowest ticket price for Sunday’s game went from 88 to 107 since Mcadoo was fired”
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McAdoo fired
And Reese
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Jerry Reese fired too
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I recommend they hire Rex!!
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Wow. They were going to be fired at the end of the season no matter what. The fan reaction to the Eli benching was what pushed it up to today.
So they wrecked his streak for nothing.
The Jets are no longer the circus in this town.
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My giants buddy thinks they’re getting Gruden/Cowher/Saban, lol
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I hope they get Saban and that control freak poopchute dies on the flight here.
When he was a fins head coach, anyone that didn't have permission to speak with him would be fired. Yes, if you said," good morning coach" without permission, you would be fired. hahahahahaha He's a miserable queynte and he should die a slow miserable painful death.
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My giants buddy thinks they’re getting Gruden/Cowher/Saban, lol
bahaha
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My giants buddy thinks they’re getting Gruden/Cowher/Saban, lol
I can’t wait until the rumors cor these names stop.
Actually, nevermind. Go after the 60 year old man who has been out of the game for 11 years.
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The Giants will get some of the best of whatever is available because they are the Giants.
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Giants are going back to Eli Manning as their starting quarterback, per @JordanRaanan.
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Circus!!!
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I very much approve of this transaction. Excellent work, gentlemen.
Distant relative?
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Distant relative?
#FireBowles
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#FireBowles
LOL
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Mara tells Michael Kay that he showed Odell the picture of his dog-peeing celebration and asked if he wanted that to be his legacy.
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According to PFT's Mike Florio, ex-Panthers GM Dave Gettleman's name is "already making the rounds in some league circles as the most likely candidate" for the Giants' GM vacancy.
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Did he work for them before?
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It's amazing an NFL coach actually thought there was an upside to killing a franchise QB's consecutive game record for Geno Smith. I am honestly still laughing not laughing, cracking up it's good comedy. I am amazed at how stupid some people are and how they got that far in life.
Well he lost his job over it. hahahahahahahah Geno Smith.
I am no fan of Eli Manning but he's always handled himself with class, unlike the rest of his organization.
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So I guess Geno goes to the Bills next year to be the backup? The other NY team.
Don't want that dude on my team, but I still say he's a solid backup QB in this league. Just not a starter. He should just embrace the career backup role and rake in backup QB money until he's old.
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Has any other QB started for the Jets and Giants? I can't name one.
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I like the Giants' throwbacks.
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Art Stapleton
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Landon Collins said yesterday he has talked with Eli Apple in “sit downs” with other DBs about his difficult season.
Apple just claimed Collins has not spoken to him.
Collins: “I guess he don’t remember things.”
Collins says he does not want to comment further + cause controversy
2:11 PM - Dec 14, 2017
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Tweet about that and watch what happens💯
4:09 PM - Dec 14, 2017
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The story is actually even better:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000892930/article/landon-collins-i-guess-eli-apple-dont-remember-things
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Lol that's just bizarre.
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I just don't understand how so much of this season occurred in such a classy organization.
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Ian O'Connor: You don't often hear an NFL player call a teammate a cancer on the radio, but Landon Collins just said that about Eli Apple to @espnbob
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Apple is as good as gone.
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Has any other QB started for the Jets and Giants? I can't name one.
Lee Grosscup if you count the Titans
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This is fun
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2017/12/family_strife_at_the_root_of_giants_cb_eli_apples.html
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This is fun
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2017/12/family_strife_at_the_root_of_giants_cb_eli_apples.html
Yikes
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This is fun
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2017/12/family_strife_at_the_root_of_giants_cb_eli_apples.html
Clazzy franzhize...nod lige dose clazzlezz Jedz
Ming wid da flazh
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Clazzy franzhize...nod lige dose clazzlezz Jedz
Ming wid da flazh
Do you need some Buckleys?
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So I guess Geno goes to the Bills next year to be the backup? The other NY team.
Don't want that dude on my team, but I still say he's a solid backup QB in this league. Just not a starter. He should just embrace the career backup role and rake in backup QB money until he's old.
SBTP
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/eli-apple-response-collins-apology-gotta-s-t-article-1.3722862
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/eli-apple-response-collins-apology-gotta-s-t-article-1.3722862
Ok now I’m officially entertained
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His mama must be proud.
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It ends...... for now
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The #Giants have suspended CB Eli Apple. His 2017 is over.
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That locker room seems like a great place to bring a rookie QB into
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#Circus
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In response to Apple, I am taking a excrement right now as well.
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In response to Apple, I am taking a excrement right now as well.
That guy is a complete mess and freak the Giants but that was a good quote. Hope it sticks around with the Giants long after he's gone
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Giants hire Dave Gettleman as GM.
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https://twitter.com/SamuelLachow/status/946495530556944388
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Giants cut OT Bobby Hart today...
Supposedly both Hart and Ereck Flowers refused to play in Week 17.
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Giants may not be looking QB. They have a ton of holes. They might look to trade down to get picks. Prime spot to do it.
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Giants may not be looking QB. They have a ton of holes. They might look to trade down to get picks. Prime spot to do it.
Take McGlinchey or Barkley. I'd be surprised if Gettleman trades down and passes on a bluechip player in his first year.
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Take McGlinchey or Barkley. I'd be surprised if Gettleman trades down and passes on a bluechip player in his first year.
Depends on what the trade offer is. Assuming Cleveland take a QB at 1, if the Giants aren't sold on a QB you have to go to 6 before you get to another QB needy team. There's no way everyone is just waiting for QBs to fall so there will be some pretty heavy duty trading going on early in the draft.
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Depends on what the trade offer is. Assuming Cleveland take a QB at 1, if the Giants aren't sold on a QB you have to go to 6 before you get to another QB needy team. There's no way everyone is just waiting for QBs to fall so there will be some pretty heavy duty trading going on early in the draft.
Anything can happen.
The QB class, for all intensive purposes, is a little more stacked this year (if they all declare). If there were less 1st round graded QBs, i could see a flurry of trades.
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Anything can happen.
The QB class, for all intensive purposes, is a little more stacked this year (if they all declare). If there were less 1st round graded QBs, i could see a flurry of trades.
I think it's moot because I can't see the Giants not taking a QB. Eli will be 38 before next season ends, and they won't be planning on picking this high in this good a class again any time soon. If I'm Gettleman and I've got the #2 or #3 pick, the only decision I'm probably making is which QB I like best in this class
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The last time someone moved from 6 to 2 it was for Rg3. That was a huge haul of picks.
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I think it's moot because I can't see the Giants not taking a QB. Eli will be 38 before next season ends, and they won't be planning on picking this high in this good a class again any time soon. If I'm Gettleman and I've got the #2 or #3 pick, the only decision I'm probably making is which QB I like best in this class
Unless they throw their hat in the Cousins ring. They are classier than us so he'd rather go there.
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I think it's moot because I can't see the Giants not taking a QB. Eli will be 38 before next season ends, and they won't be planning on picking this high in this good a class again any time soon. If I'm Gettleman and I've got the #2 or #3 pick, the only decision I'm probably making is which QB I like best in this class
Conventional wisdom agrees with you. But Gettleman has also publicly said that his oline needs to be a top priority. McGlinchey is a strong possibility.
We get to debate this excrement for the next 4 months. Lucky us.
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Unless they throw their hat in the Cousins ring. They are classier than us so he'd rather go there.
i want to see who they hire for their HC.
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i want to see who they hire for their HC.
Someone reeeeeal classy.
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Unless they throw their hat in the Cousins ring. They are classier than us so he'd rather go there.
That would require them to cut Eli, there's no way they could carry both contracts. Gettleman isn't going to start off his career as Giants GM by ditching their beloved multi-Lombardi QB for an overpriced 30 year old from a divisional rival.
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That would require them to cut Eli, there's no way they could carry both contracts. Gettleman isn't going to start off his career as Giants GM by ditching their beloved multi-Lombardi QB for an overpriced 30 year old from a divisional rival.
Yeah, that makes sense.
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Anything can happen.
The QB class, for all intensive purposes, is a little more stacked this year (if they all declare). If there were less 1st round graded QBs, i could see a flurry of trades.
How intensive was your purpose Mr Moron Butthole?
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i want to see who they hire for their HC.
So you can get a jump on calling for him to be fired.
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So you can get a jump on calling for him to be fired.
nah...i don't give a excrement about them.
just a little curious.
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nah...i don't give a excrement about them.
just a little curious.
I'm hoping for a total train wreck but I have a bad feeling they will get it turned around quickly.
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I'm hoping for a total train wreck but I have a bad feeling they will get it turned around quickly.
trade them Bowles.
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New York Giants put in a request to interview Minnesota Vikings offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur, per @JordanRaanan.
3:04 PM - 2 Jan 2018
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Q: How did your meeting go Wednesday with Eli Apple?
A: It went fine. We talked. He was very attentive. He was focused. He couldn’t be at Monday’s team meeting, so I went through the points that I made to the team with him.
Q: Are you optimistic that his career can be salvaged?
A: Time will tell. I told him he’s got a clean slate for me. Let’s move forward, let’s see what happens.
https://nypost.com/2018/01/05/dave-gettleman-talks-giants-rebuild-gm-influences-and-qb-issue/
I wonder how Landon Collins feels about this.
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Ereck Flowers and Bobby Hart refused to partake in the NYG OL’s Secret Santa, according to Jordan Ranaan.
Circus
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Ereck Flowers and Bobby Hart refused to partake in the NYG OL’s Secret Santa, according to Jordan Ranaan.
Circus
Secret Santa, lol.
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Grown men--who are millionaires--buying shitty gifts in secret.
I wouldn't participate either.
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Sounds like it’s Patricia
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Sounds like it’s Patricia
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Wrong Pat. Shurmur, not -ricia, confirmed as Giants HC.
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Wrong Pat. Shurmur, not -ricia, confirmed as Giants HC.
The upper people with the Giants are not happy they were spurned by Patricia. lol
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Well that's a huge improvement over the adolescent they had prior.
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NYG have hired Mike Shula as OC. Official announcement later today. Per sources. #NYG
https://twitter.com/kimjonessports/status/963442801504653313?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eios%7Ctwgr%5Eother%7Ctwcon%5E7100%7Ctwterm%5E0
Read the replies. Panthers fans don’t seem to like the guy
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Darrell Bevell's star has really fallen. It's only a couple of seasons since he and Quinn were the two hot HC prospects in the league.
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NYG have hired Mike Shula as OC. Official announcement later today. Per sources. #NYG
https://twitter.com/kimjonessports/status/963442801504653313?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eios%7Ctwgr%5Eother%7Ctwcon%5E7100%7Ctwterm%5E0
Read the replies. Panthers fans don’t seem to like the guy
Fans hate most former OCs of their team. Pittsburgh fans hated Bruce Arians.
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Fans hate most former OCs of their team. Pittsburgh fans hated Bruce Arians.
Good point. We have a list of like a hundred former OCs most people hate.
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Good point. We have a list of like a hundred former OCs most people hate.
my hatred for Tony Sparano is 4 lyfe.
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my hatred for Tony Sparano is 4 lyfe.
I like the cut of your jib lol.
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https://nypost.com/2018/03/09/video-of-odell-beckham-jr-with-suspicious-looking-substances-surfaces-online/
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@RapSheet:From @gmfb: My understanding is that #Giants WR Odell Beckham Jr will not set foot on a field without a new contract extension agreed to — with the #Giants or any team. ... This comes a day after owner John Mara said no one is “untouchable” in trade talks.
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From @gmfb: The #Giants are open to discussing a possible Odell Beckham Jr trade for the right price... while he won’t be on the field without a new deal. https://t.co/0HDvFQzXsk
RIP Eli.
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From @gmfb: The #Giants are open to discussing a possible Odell Beckham Jr trade for the right price... while he won’t be on the field without a new deal. https://t.co/0HDvFQzXsk
RIP Eli.
If OBJ is gone...i wonder if the top 3 QB prospects will be as eager to go to the Giants.
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If OBJ is gone...i wonder if the top 3 QB prospects will be as eager to go to the Giants.
They won't have a choice.
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They won't have a choice.
They could pull the Eli
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if they lose OBJ they may be more inclined to take a playmaker to help eli out like saquon
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What would the giants ask for in a trade?
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What would the giants ask for in a trade?
2019 1st and 3rd? Do it Tanny
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if they lose OBJ they may be more inclined to take a playmaker to help eli out like saquon
If they lose OBJ it's because they've gone into full rebuild mode, and then they're taking a QB.
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If they lose OBJ it's because they've gone into full rebuild mode, and then they're taking a QB.
Bring back Mario Manningham
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In fact, the Daily News has learned that the price in a prospective Beckham trade is starting at a first-round pick plus. The “plus” is the negotiable part, but the meaning is that it likely won’t require two first-round picks to get it done.
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So potential suitors: eliminate the NFC East and the Jets. The Giants are not going to trade Beckham in division or let the Jets win big with their former star in their own stadium and make them look bad down the road.
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Obvious trade partner for me looks like the Browns - they have the money to pay him and the draft capital to get it done. Give the Giants #4 and #33, take their QB at #1. Giants then take a QB at #2 knowing they can get Barkley at #4.
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Obvious trade partner for me looks like the Browns - they have the money to pay him and the draft capital to get it done. Give the Giants #4 and #33, take their QB at #1. Giants then take a QB at #2 knowing they can get Barkley at #4.
That's way too expensive for OBJ. The #4 pick, an early 2nd, and the highest contract ever for a wideout, for a dude with serious mental issues.
They'd be much better off taking the best player in the draft at #4. Let some team elsewhere trade for him, maybe the Bills would be appropriate. If I was the Patriots I'd obviously be interested as freak since this is the end of their window though I don't quite see it happening.
Not to mention the Browns aren't giving all that up without a new contract. And do you think Beckham is interested in signing a long term contract with the fricken Browns? The only teams getting Beckham will either be contenders or teams located in an awesome place to live
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I seriously doubt they trade him
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That's way too expensive for OBJ. The #4 pick, an early 2nd, and the highest contract ever for a wideout, for a dude with serious mental issues.
They'd be much better off taking the best player in the draft at #4. Let some team elsewhere trade for him, maybe the Bills would be appropriate. If I was the Patriots I'd obviously be interested as freak since this is the end of their window though I don't quite see it happening.
Not to mention the Browns aren't giving all that up without a new contract. And do you think Beckham is interested in signing a long term contract with the fricken Browns? The only teams getting Beckham will either be contenders or teams located in an awesome place to live
He doesn't have serious mental issues, he's a diva receiver. Is this your first season watching football? I also don't think that price is too high considering his talent, in fact I think that Beckham's ability to break a game is exactly what you'd love to give a new star QB. Elite talents cost elite prices.
As for the Browns' ability to get him signed long term, I think that money talks and it may have escaped your attention but the Browns are in danger of putting together a really freaking good roster that Dorsey might actually not allow Jackson to freak up.
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I seriously doubt they trade him
I agree.
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Apparently the Rams are in hot pursuit of OBJ
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Apparently the Rams are in hot pursuit of OBJ
Put him on the field for Goff and with Gurley in the backfield? With that defense?
Yikes....
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Put him on the field for Goff and with Gurley in the backfield? With that defense?
Yikes....
LA really wants to win a Super Bowl next year...
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Put him on the field for Goff and with Gurley in the backfield? With that defense?
Yikes....
Goff will get hurt. Nothing ever goes as planned.
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Goff will get hurt. Nothing ever goes as planned.
Well that worked out pretty well for Philly
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Well that worked out pretty well for Philly
Who is Goff's backup? Sean Mannion.
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John Mara just gave his clearest statement yet on the Odell Beckham Trade frenzy: "He’s not on the block. Is that going to stop clubs from possibly calling us? No. But he’s not on the block. We’re not shopping him around."
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@CarlBanksGIII:I've been told by a source that a team is willing to offer their next 3yrs of 1st rounders a 2nd 3rd this year for OBJ. Will the #NYG pull the trigger
@CarlBanksGIII:A second source has just confirm the Trade offer to the #nyg For OBJ.. they are on the clock they have until 4pm est tomorrow to accept
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@CarlBanksGIII:I've been told by a source that a team is willing to offer their next 3yrs of 1st rounders a 2nd 3rd this year for OBJ. Will the #NYG pull the trigger
@CarlBanksGIII:A second source has just confirm the Trade offer to the #nyg For OBJ.. they are on the clock they have until 4pm est tomorrow to accept
Holy excrement, they should take that.
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@CarlBanksGIII:I've been told by a source that a team is willing to offer their next 3yrs of 1st rounders a 2nd 3rd this year for OBJ. Will the #NYG pull the trigger
@CarlBanksGIII:A second source has just confirm the Trade offer to the #nyg For OBJ.. they are on the clock they have until 4pm est tomorrow to accept
Go home Carl, you're drunk.
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Holy excrement, they should take that.
The only players that are worth that are Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers right on the cusp of entering their prime.
Very few players are worth 5 total draft picks, and none but future HOF QBs are worth 3 1s a 2 and a 3.
Giants should take that, take a QB at 2, draft a WR with the 1st rounder they acquired for OBJ and continue about their business rebuilding an awful roster while Eli plays one more year for them.
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That's bullshit, no way that's true.
They could easily get obj in a trade with just one first-rounder and some other pick why would they offer way above and beyond what it would take to get him?
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That's bullshit, no way that's true.
They could easily get obj in a trade with just one first-rounder and some other pick why would they offer way above and beyond what it would take to get him?
Unless of course the Giants said he's not on the table unless you blow us away. Which I'm sure they did.
But let's be honest, there is no way that deal is on the table, and if it is, there isn't any way the Giants wouldn't take it.
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@CarlBanksGIII:I've been told by a source that a team is willing to offer their next 3yrs of 1st rounders a 2nd 3rd this year for OBJ. Will the #NYG pull the trigger
@CarlBanksGIII:A second source has just confirm the Trade offer to the #nyg For OBJ.. they are on the clock they have until 4pm est tomorrow to accept
hahahahahaha
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hahahahahaha
Does Carl know IncarceratedBob?
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not only that, OBJ is coming off a substantial injury that may have lingering effects on his ability when he gets back, nobody knows what he'll be like when he gets back. plus all of the money he wants to sign to be the richest person in the world, as a WR dependent on QB play. plus his value is lower right now because the giants basically said theyre open to dealing him because of his attitude issues. then throw in the actual attitude issues and the possible drug use itself.
i honestly don't even think the giants would get a 1st for OBJ, even if that's what they're asking for. would you trade a 1st round pick for all of that mess/uncertainty?
that trade scenario is absolute twitter bullshit
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i honestly don't even think the giants would get a 1st for OBJ, even if that's what they're asking for. would you trade a 1st round pick for all of that mess/uncertainty?
Depends. If I was a GM of a team that was picking in the lower half of the first round, and if I was already pretty close to contending, I'd probably consider it because that kind of talent is a rare thing.
I certainly wouldn't give up three firsts though.
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Depends. If I was a GM of a team that was picking in the lower half of the first round, and if I was already pretty close to contending, I'd probably consider it because that kind of talent is a rare thing.
I certainly wouldn't give up three firsts though.
i kind of feel bad for odell. IMO ankle fractures are the most complicated of any sort of leg injury, and i know for a player like him knee integrity is important, but with his moves he'll be torquing that ankle around a lot as well. idk if he'll be the same player but if he is it may take some time to get to that level.
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i kind of feel bad for odell. IMO ankle fractures are the most complicated of any sort of leg injury, and i know for a player like him knee integrity is important, but with his moves he'll be torquing that ankle around a lot as well. idk if he'll be the same player but if he is it may take some time to get to that level.
I don't feel sorry for his diva derriere. Living the party life has consequences. I hope the Giants sign him to a huge extension and he continues to be a douche.
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Look at the Giants WRs left over if they trade OBJ. They'd have to keep Brandon Marshall.
Eli will die.
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Look at the Giants WRs left over if they trade OBJ. They'd have to keep Brandon Marshall.
Eli will die.
Wasn't Marshall already cut?
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There's no way that deal is real.
Three first rounders? And the Giants even have to think about it? It sounds a lot more like "a source" leaking "a deal" to a former player so it could be leaked to the world in hopes that someone else would call and make a great offer.
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There's no way that deal is real.
Three first rounders? And the Giants even have to think about it? It sounds a lot more like "a source" leaking "a deal" to a former player so it could be leaked to the world in hopes that someone else would call and make a great offer.
Carl Banks tweet hasn't been picked up by anybody of value. I seriously doubt it's even made its way into NFL circles other than the Giants and Jets.
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Three first rounders for a headache who wants a new deal? Where do I sign?
Who even has three first rounders?
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Right now @AdamSchefter reports the NYG are open to trading OBJ. He is in play. More now
Just now on NFL Live, @AdamSchefter just predicted that Odell Beckham Jr WILL be traded for a 1st and 3rd or 4th round pick.
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Right now @AdamSchefter reports the NYG are open to trading OBJ. He is in play. More now
Just now on NFL Live, @AdamSchefter just predicted that Odell Beckham Jr WILL be traded for a 1st and 3rd or 4th round pick.
Send him to San Francisco. His sex life will approve of the move.
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Lol. 3 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd PLUS the largest contract ever to a player that is not a QB.... for someone who is coming of ankle surgery and an off season where he was seen in a picture with coke next to him. Sure.
A team not only has to find fair trade value, and be willing to give that up for a player who has injury concerns, but also be able to find a common ground on a contract with him. I would probably give up next years 1st for him, but that's mostly because we have more money than we know what to do with and can give him the contract that he wants (within reason). I'm not sure how large his market is and what other teams would part with to get him... but I am sure it is not the equivalent of four 1st round picks. Plus, if that was a real offer, there's no way the Giants don't instantly say yes.
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It's got to be the Rams, right? They have money ($30MM) and they seem to be all-in on this coming season.
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It's got to be the Rams, right? They have money ($30MM) and they seem to be all-in on this coming season.
30M is fine for now, but they are going to have to pay quite a few players on that team in the next couple of years.
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30M is fine for now, but they are going to have to pay quite a few players on that team in the next couple of years.
That's why I mentioned they seem to be all-in this coming season. If they're just looking for a short-term boost to the team, then it's a move that can help push them along in January 2019.
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Right now @AdamSchefter reports the NYG are open to trading OBJ. He is in play. More now
Just now on NFL Live, @AdamSchefter just predicted that Odell Beckham Jr WILL be traded for a 1st and 3rd or 4th round pick.
We need to be rooting against this. If it happens, that all but assures the Giants go QB at 2 and our dreams of Rosen pretty much dies.
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We need to be rooting against this. If it happens, that all but assures the Giants go QB at 2 and our dreams of Rosen pretty much dies.
Or, it increases their need for a weapon to give Eli and cements their desire to stand at #2 and draft Barkley.
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Or, it increases their need for a weapon to give Eli and cements their desire to stand at #2 and draft Barkley.
I said it the other day, and I stand by it. If the Giants trade Beckham, they're in full-on rebuild mode and they're taking a QB or trading down for a shitton of picks. I agree with Libero, it's the worst-case scenario for the Jets.
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We need to be rooting against this. If it happens, that all but assures the Giants go QB at 2 and our dreams of Rosen pretty much dies.
Why would they draft a rookie QB, having just taken away his best weapon? If anything, they'd prefer a seasoned veteran (Eli) to deal with it. If you are drafting a rookie, you want to surround him with talent to help him out, not throw him out there on a team with no skill players.
Then again, this probably has zero to do with the draft and more to do with OBJ being a pain in the derriere beyond his talent. Even if the Giants draft a QB, he isn't playing this year, so OBJ being traded would have no bearing.
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Do we even want Rosen? I'm still worried about the concussion issue.
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Do we even want Rosen? I'm still worried about the concussion issue.
If you believe what the beat writers are peddling today, Bowles let it slip that he wants Mayfield.
Personally, I think the Jets are dead-set on taking the best player they feel will lead them to the Super Bowl.
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Why would they draft a rookie QB, having just taken away his best weapon? If anything, they'd prefer a seasoned veteran (Eli) to deal with it. If you are drafting a rookie, you want to surround him with talent to help him out, not throw him out there on a team with no skill players.
Then again, this probably has zero to do with the draft and more to do with OBJ being a pain in the derriere beyond his talent. Even if the Giants draft a QB, he isn't playing this year, so OBJ being traded would have no bearing.
IN my eyes it signifies they have decided they aren't competing for a title in the next 24-36 months, and as such are turning towards the future. 1 first rounder will be a playmaker to replace Beckham, and 1 will be a QB to be the future. You tell me where they are more likely to get a better QB prospect, but I'd wager its at 2 than anywhere else on the board.
I'd say they only deal OBJ if they feel they get an offer they can't refuse that leads to a jump started rebuild, AND they see a QB they really like.
In my eyes an OBJ trade signifies that we are officially choosing between Mayfield and Allen.
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If you believe what the beat writers are peddling today, Bowles let it slip that he wants Mayfield.
This is why I pay no attention to any rumors or articles right now. Anything Bowles said to reveal anything is either a smoke screen at this point or he's a complete idiot who shouldn't be allowed to talk to the media.
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This is why I pay no attention to any rumors or articles right now. Anything Bowles said to reveal anything is either a smoke screen at this point or he's a complete idiot who shouldn't be allowed to talk to the media.
Honestly, he didn't even say anything about Mayfield. He listed qualities that he wants in a QB (leadership, intelligence, etc.) and the writers ran with it, saying it "sounds like" he was talking about Mayfield.
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Giants releasing Brandon Marshall today.
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Giants releasing Brandon Marshall today.
makin' room for Dez
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makin' room for Dez
I'd rather have Marshall, but I'll always love him for 2015.
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Damon Amendolara
Wow. Giants GM Gettleman openly admits he didn’t even listen to offers for #2 pick once Mayfield went #1. That’s embarrassing, and the arrogance that made him unpopular to many Panthers players.
#Giants GM Gettleman: "Once #Browns took Baker, I told our guys 'Don't even waste your time. We're taking Saquon and we're going to run.' He didn't even want to listen to offers once #NFLDraft started!
Jimmy Kempski
I just watched Gettleman's and Shurmur's Saquon Barkley presser. Highlight for me was Gettleman mimicking an analytics nerd by typing on an imaginary keyboard, while a half-awake Shurmur watches his fingers. Good luck, Giants fans.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dby02SLVQAII92n.jpg)
Looks like Francesa is running the Giants.
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Gettleman was a gift from the football gods for jets fans.
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Tom Rock
@TomRock_Newsday
Add this to Dave Gettleman's Greatest Hits:
"People call you and they want the second pick of the draft for a bag of donuts, a hot pretzel and a hot dog. Leave me alone. I don’t have time to screw around."
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I can't believe the Giants took a running back 2nd overall in 2018. I hope Gettelman keeps his job forever.
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I can't believe the Giants took a running back 2nd overall in 2018. I hope Gettelman keeps his job forever.
He's getting killed online over his behavior at their presser. This is hilarious.
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He's getting killed online over his behavior at their presser. This is hilarious.
Are we sure he isn't Francesa's twin?
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Are we sure he isn't Francesa's twin?
I didn't think the Giants could find a bigger curmudgeon to hire than Tom Coughlin....kudos to the Maras.
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Weah takin Seeqwaahhn, don't even tuhn on da phone. Mink wit da flash.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dby02SLVQAII92n.jpg)
Looks like Francesa is running the Giants.
They have listened to trade offers for months. If nobody ever came close to giving them something that would get them to move, why would they listen on draft day? That's an idiotic reason to hold against him.
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They have listened to trade offers for months. If nobody ever came close to giving them something that would get them to move, why would they listen on draft day? That's an idiotic reason to hold against him.
For months Darnold was expected to go first overall.
If you have the second pick in the draft, and the expected best QB in the draft doesn't go first overall, doesn't the value of your pick significantly increase?
I would surely think so.
Or put differently if we hadn't traded for the 3rd pick from the Colts until the day if the draft. Wouldn't you be willing to have given up more for the 3rd pick once Darnold was actually available, instead of when you thought you might be getting the 2nd or 3rd best QB? The Browns taking Mayfield changed everything
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They have listened to trade offers for months. If nobody ever came close to giving them something that would get them to move, why would they listen on draft day? That's an idiotic reason to hold against him.
Because you never know. How hard is it to pick up the phone and listen for 1 minute? You can say no thanks and move on. People get jumpy at the last second and might make a surprising offer. I'm quite sure none of the offers were what he would have taken, but why not listen and make sure?
I don't think it's idiotic not to trade the pick, I think it's idiotic not to listen to offers. What the freak else was he doing in that war room? Picking his nose? He already had his pick decided, he was doing nothing.
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For months Darnold was expected to go first overall.
If you have the second pick in the draft, and the expected best QB in the draft doesn't go first overall, doesn't the value of your pick significantly increase?
I would surely think so.
Or put differently if we hadn't traded for the 3rd pick from the Colts until the day if the draft. Wouldn't you be willing to have given up more for the 3rd pick once Darnold was actually available, instead of when you thought you might be getting the 2nd or 3rd best QB? The Browns taking Mayfield changed everything
Honestly, it sounds like the Browns weren't that into Darnold, ever. The Allen rumors a while back, and now of course the fact Baker was the guy, and it was significantly rumored for 2-3 days. I have to believe teams were calling and saying if Sam is there, we will give you this...
Also, if Gettleman had decided he has a future HOF player (which he apparently does) in Barkley in his lap, you need literally the world to change his mind.
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Honestly, it sounds like the Browns weren't that into Darnold, ever. The Allen rumors a while back, and now of course the fact Baker was the guy, and it was significantly rumored for 2-3 days. I have to believe teams were calling and saying if Sam is there, we will give you this...
Also, if Gettleman had decided he has a future HOF player (which he apparently does) in Barkley in his lap, you need literally the world to change his mind.
Teams offer the world for franchise QBs.
You at least listen. He could have gotten an offer and used it as leverage to force the Jets to trade up from 3 to 2 to land Darnold and still got his guy. Would it have been difficult to pull off sure, but I'd rather a GM who trys that rather then act like it's beneath him and a waste of time
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As much as it hurts to say, the Giants drafted really well today.
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As much as it hurts to say, the Giants drafted really well today.
Don't mean excrement without a quarterback
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I still don't give a excrement about anything the Giants do.
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The will Hernandez and Lorenzo Carter picks gave me a little draft envy.
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I still don't give a excrement about anything the Giants do.
I was reading an article about how Barkley and Darnold will be linked forever because it's the Giants and jets.
In my eyes, the only way Barkley isn't good is if he is unhealthy. If both go on to HOF careers, the Giants didn't make a bad pick.
I just don't get it
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I was reading an article about how Barkley and Darnold will be linked forever because it's the Giants and jets.
In my eyes, the only way Barkley isn't good is if he is unhealthy. If both go on to HOF careers, the Giants didn't make a bad pick.
I just don't get it
This line of thinking was why I was looking at top ten rushers for different franchises. A healthy Barkley is automatically going to be at least the 2nd all time for them, and 1st (Tiki) is attainable.
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I was reading an article about how Barkley and Darnold will be linked forever because it's the Giants and jets.
In my eyes, the only way Barkley isn't good is if he is unhealthy. If both go on to HOF careers, the Giants didn't make a bad pick.
I just don't get it
It has nothing to do with being good and bad, just the nature of running back and the nfl today.
I think I read that because of the way salarys work in the nfl Barkley would be something like the 3rd or 4th highest paid running back, while Darnold would be like the 28th highest paid QB or something to that effect. Not to mention the shelf life of a running back is less than that of other skill positions.
There's no question Barkley has elite potential and has a great chance of being an incredible player. It's just the value of the pick that comes into reason. Superb prospect, mediocre value
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The Gettlemen complaints seem like media generated bullshit. Barkley was a top 5 prospect and if they valued him there then there was no reason to entertain a trade.
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Hilarious if Eli finally gets injured, Davis Webb shits the bed and their fanbase melts down over missing Darnold.
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The Gettlemen complaints seem like media generated bullshit. Barkley was a top 5 prospect and if they valued him there then there was no reason to entertain a trade.
That's a rerrible business mentality and completely wrong
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That's a rerrible business mentality and completely wrong
nah i think cato is right. plus it sounds like they entertained trades anyways and there was nothing that they offered that they valued more than they did saquon.
still not sure you draft saquon over darnold, but when it comes to drafting saquon vs trading out, the media is just overblowing the hell out of it
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I think they've had a good draft... It all comes down to how Darnold plays though. If he becomes a FQB and they spend 10 years trying to find a QB like most teams do, then it obviously is a terrible decision, even if Barkley is the next Ladanian Tomlinson. Hernandez, Carter and Lauletta were solid picks.
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I still don't give a excrement about anything the Giants do.
It’s easy for someone like you or me because we don’t have to listen to local media or be around Giants fans constantly. Anyone who lives in the tri state area can’t avoid it, particularly (sports) annoying friends who are Giants fans
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It’s easy for someone like you or me because we don’t have to listen to local media or be around Giants fans constantly. Anyone who lives in the tri state area can’t avoid it, particularly (sports) annoying friends who are Giants fans
QFT
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I normally detest the Giants and Giants fans. But now they don't bother me, maybe I'll even watch a couple Giants games this year just to see what Beckham and Barkley can accomplish. I think Eli is going to be mediocre at best for what remains of his career , and the rest of that team isn't good enough to worry about. Until the Giants have a QB they're not a rival, they're just another New York team.
More importantly is whether Darnold can make the Jets relevant or not, if we have a QB and the Giants don't they simply don't matter.
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It’s easy for someone like you or me because we don’t have to listen to local media or be around Giants fans constantly. Anyone who lives in the tri state area can’t avoid it, particularly (sports) annoying friends who are Giants fans
This is true. That said, I was thrilled when they drafted the RB and it's a good fit for them.
If Darnold goes on to a great run with us it will be a fun footnote that the Giants passed on him.
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It’s easy for someone like you or me because we don’t have to listen to local media or be around Giants fans constantly. Anyone who lives in the tri state area can’t avoid it, particularly (sports) annoying friends who are Giants fans
I can agree with this.
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I know I remind you guys all the time but I live in the 7th circle of hell that is half Giants fans and half patriots fans. And the occasional Jets fan I come across is dumb enough to make me respect dcm’s opinion.
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I think the Giants did really well. I love the Barkley pick (and not just for what it did for the Jets).
Eli is still a talented QB, and they've added Barkley to an offense that already features Beckham. I think they should add Dez, and make a real run the next two years. Worry about the future when you have to.
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i want to see how obj moves/runs when he gets back. he did not suffer an insignificant injury
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I think the Giants did really well. I love the Barkley pick (and not just for what it did for the Jets).
Eli is still a talented QB, and they've added Barkley to an offense that already features Beckham. I think they should add Dez, and make a real run the next two years. Worry about the future when you have to.
I agree. Objectively for them, I think this is the way to go despite the fact that I hate them and want them to go 0-16. So happy they went RB at #2, almost makes me want to root for them, until they win one game and every Giant fan pisses me off.
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almost makes me want to root for them, until they win one game and every Giant fan pisses me off.
This is how I've felt going into the last few seasons.
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As per @NYPost_Schwartz , if Giants went QB , it was between Darnold and Allen. Shurmur liked Josh Allen the best. Only a few Rosen fans. Not a surprise there.
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It would've been hysterical if the Giants took Allen at 2
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It would've been hysterical if the Giants took Allen at 2
I disagree. That's the luxury of having a franchise QB. I'd have said the same if the Patriots took him. Unless McCarron has a couple of good years, Allen is going to get thrust into the job early in Buffalo, but with the Giants, he'd have had a couple of years to work out any issues while learning the system.
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I disagree. That's the luxury of having a franchise QB. I'd have said the same if the Patriots took him. Unless McCarron has a couple of good years, Allen is going to get thrust into the job early in Buffalo, but with the Giants, he'd have had a couple of years to work out any issues while learning the system.
Sure, but he's not gonna be this all pro potential HOFer like Barkley. I'm not as cold on Allen as others, but I think passing on Darnold for him would be freaking nuts
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Sure, but he's not gonna be this all pro potential HOFer like Barkley. I'm not as cold on Allen as others, but I think passing on Darnold for him would be freaking nuts
Okay, if that's the angle you meant, I completely agree. If they'd have picked Allen over Darnold, yeah, everyone should have been fired on the spot.
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I wouldn't consider this a "lol" post, but since this is basically the everything Giants thread...i'll put this here.
Apparently Gettleman has been diagnosed with Lymphoma.
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I wouldn't consider this a "lol" post, but since this is basically the everything Giants thread...i'll put this here.
Apparently Gettleman has been diagnosed with Lymphoma.
I went through the same thought process you did but was too lazy to post it.
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I went through the same thought process you did but was too lazy to post it.
you're a true gov't employee now.
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Because I'll use any excuse to write/say it:
#fuckcancer
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that sucks.
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Dianna Russini
@diannaESPN
Police sources have confirmed a body has been discovered on the property of Giants Janoris Jenkins in Fair Lawn, NJ. Jenkins is not in the state and has been in Florida since camp broke. He is aware as are the New York Giants. Told this is a homicide investigation
Guilty until proven innocent in my mind.
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Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo
Per law enforcement sources, police are investigating a possible strangulation/suffocation as the cause of death in the case of the body found at Giants CB Janoris Jenkins’ home.
Yep, he did it, no need for a trial. freak the Giants.
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Guilty until proven innocent in my mind.
I understand you have a corpse minus a head in your basement, take me to it.
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Wtf
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William Jenkin, Janoris's brother, has been arrested in connection with the death of Roosevelt Rene and charged with Aggravated Manslaughter.
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William Jenkin, Janoris's brother, has been arrested in connection with the death of Roosevelt Rene and charged with Aggravated Manslaughter.
They are related. There must be a connection. Jail. F-Giants.
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Wtf
wtf? simple: Jenkins has a problem in the form of a body in his cellar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWmRTjLRMfU
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https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/1022152119934234624?s=19
Giants cornerback Sam Beal who was chosen in the supplemental draft is out for the year with a shoulder injury per source. Big hit for this Giants defense.
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the Giants just threw the kitchen sink at OBJ. 5 yr extension 95 mil, 65 mil guaranteed.
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the Giants just threw the kitchen sink at OBJ. 5 yr extension 95 mil, 65 mil guaranteed.
Hope he gets arrested tomorrow.
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Hope he gets arrested tomorrow.
Should be funny when Eli's body breaks down this season and Davis Webb is throwing him the ball.
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Should be funny when Eli's body breaks down this season and Davis Webb is throwing him the ball.
I hate to say it, but if they can avoid the injury bug, they have a playoff team. In fact, the Cowboys might be the worst team in that division.
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I hate to say it, but if they can avoid the injury bug, they have a playoff team. In fact, the Cowboys might be the worst team in that division.
Have you seen Ereck Flowers play? I think the Giants oline might be worse than ours.
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Have you seen Ereck Flowers play? I think the Giants oline might be worse than ours.
Maybe but the rest of the team is better. Especially offensive skill positions.
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Maybe but the rest of the team is better.
what gave you that impression...their 3-13 record last year?
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what gave you that impression...their 3-13 record last year?
Having a good running back, their best receiver playing, and a real left tackle.
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Having a good running back, their best receiver playing, and a real left tackle.
Nate Solder stinks.
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Having a good running back, their best receiver playing, and a real left tackle.
excrement id take our QB stable over theirs
Eli is in the twilight of his career with a garbage line. I'm not worried about them in the playoffs at all
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excrement id take our QB stable over theirs
Eli is in the twilight of his career with a garbage line. I'm not worried about them in the playoffs at all
When has he missed any significant time? Dude stays healthy. He's a good QB. Not great but good.
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When has he missed any significant time? Dude stays healthy. He's a good QB. Not great but good.
His durability is about the only thing going for him and even that can't be taken for granted at 37. I would not describe his play as good the last two years.
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His durability is about the only thing going for him and even that can't be taken for granted at 37. I would not describe his play as good the last two years.
You can't argue with two rings. Dude's a clutch player. I have a lot of time for Eli.
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If the Jets don't win the Super Bowl this year, I hope the Giants do. I was a big proponent of them taking Barkley to help Eli have one more run.
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If the Jets don't win the Super Bowl this year, I hope the Giants do. I was a big proponent of them taking Barkley to help Eli have one more run.
i was a proponent of them taking saquon throughout the entire process as it was one of the ways somebody would fall to us at QB
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You can't argue with two rings. Dude's a clutch player. I have a lot of time for Eli.
i have a lot of respect for eli, but not a lot of time. not with that face. so ugly
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If the Jets don't win the Super Bowl this year, I hope the Giants do. I was a big proponent of them taking Barkley to help Eli have one more run.
GTFO.
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If the Jets don't win the Super Bowl this year, I hope the Giants do. I was a big proponent of them taking Barkley to help Eli have one more run.
Eh, not sure I'd go that far. I just like Eli.
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If the Jets don't win the Super Bowl this year, I hope the Giants do. I was a big proponent of them taking Barkley to help Eli have one more run.
Im guessing you don't live in the tri-state area? Because I'm not sure I know a single Jets fan that would share this mentality while being constantly surrounded by Giants fans.
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GTFO.
Eh, not sure I'd go that far. I just like Eli.
Im guessing you don't live in the tri-state area? Because I'm not sure I know a single Jets fan that would share this mentality while being constantly surrounded by Giants fans.
I was born and raised in Queens, NY. I literally live 2 blocks from where I attended grammar school, a 15-minute walk from my high school, and a 20-minute walk from the apartment I grew up in.
My father was a Giants and Jets fan who loved both teams. He was also a diehard Yankees fan who remembered exactly where he was when Babe Ruth died. And he grew up in Queens too.
I have zero dislike for Giants fans or the Giants. I have never had the experiences with Giants fans I always hear Jets fans whine about. I never have issues with Mets fans either. When I was a kid, Mets fans were a bit dickish, but as an adult, I've never had any issues with cross-town rivals in either sport. Sorry if others can't be so "lucky".
All of my sports hatred is saved for teams like the Pats, Red Sox, Dolphins, Bills, Cowboys, and Eagles. Those are who I consider rivals. If you've got a problem with that, well, too bad.
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I was born and raised in Queens, NY. I literally live 2 blocks from where I attended grammar school, a 15-minute walk from my high school, and a 20-minute walk from the apartment I grew up in.
My father was a Giants and Jets fan who loved both teams. He was also a diehard Yankees fan who remembered exactly where he was when Babe Ruth died. And he grew up in Queens too.
I have zero dislike for Giants fans or the Giants. I have never had the experiences with Giants fans I always hear Jets fans whine about. I never have issues with Mets fans either. When I was a kid, Mets fans were a bit dickish, but as an adult, I've never had any issues with cross-town rivals in either sport. Sorry if others can't be so "lucky".
All of my sports hatred is saved for teams like the Pats, Red Sox, Dolphins, Bills, Cowboys, and Eagles. Those are who I consider rivals. If you've got a problem with that, well, too bad.
Unacceptable. Get out.
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Unacceptable. Get out.
Still here. Love y'all. 'Cept Puck. freak that guy.
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Still here. Love y'all. 'Cept Puck. freak that guy.
There's always one thing to bring us all together.
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Giants cut Davis Webb. Remember when he was possibly one of the reasons why the Giants passed on a QB?
Lol.
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Still here. Love y'all. 'Cept Puck. freak that guy.
Geez I was just going to compliment you on your post......but you're being kind of a dick. I would would never act like that towards you, ever.
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There's always one thing to bring us all together.
freak you too! You freaking poopchute just like that asswipe Alio. lol
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freak you too! You freaking poopchute just like that asswipe Alio. lol
Banshee sucks.
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Banshee sucks.
Talk to MBGreen he's the biggest Banshee fan now, he displaced me, you redneck hillbilly freak.
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Talk to MBGreen he's the biggest Banshee fan now, he displaced me.
It only sucked when you were the biggest fan.
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Geez I was just going to compliment you on your post......but you're being kind of a dick. I would would never act like that towards you, ever.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
No, not really. GFY
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
No, not really. GFY
Apology accepted!
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/victorious/images/c/cb/Taylor_blowing_kiss_gif.gif/revision/latest?cb=20121029134838)
And eat a big bag of dicks!
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lol
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https://twitter.com/SBondyNYDN/status/1039100981353566213?s=19
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https://twitter.com/SBondyNYDN/status/1039100981353566213?s=19
Lmao, gonna borrow this for Facebook
Love the portion in parentheses (happens all the time these days)
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The only thing sweeter than having a truly promising young quarterback is knowing that the Giants passed on him to honor Eli Manning's remains.
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The only thing sweeter than having a truly promising young quarterback is knowing that the Giants passed on him to honor Eli Manning's remains.
Knowing those assholes, they will take credit for any wins we get because of it. "Well, you're winning because we let you have Darnold. You're welccommmme..."
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Knowing those assholes, they will take credit for any wins we get because of it. "Well, you're winning because we let you have Darnold. You're welccommmme..."
I'm fine with that. I would reply with "Thanks, enjoy the losses".
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I'm fine with that. I would reply with "Thanks, enjoy the losses".
Enjoy Saquon head-freaking a wall every Sunday.
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Knowing those assholes, they will take credit for any wins we get because of it. "Well, you're winning because we let you have Darnold. You're welccommmme..."
In that case, the Jets should take credit for the 2011 Super Bowl for letting them into the playoffs.
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I love how the conversation on some sports media is about giants fans freaking out about taking Barkley over Darnold
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I love how the conversation on some sports media is about giants fans freaking out about taking Barkley over Darnold
Good. I want to drink Giants tears all season.
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Twitter is littered with Giants fans defending the Barkley pick by shitting on Darnold's pick 6 last night....hahahahaha
This is going to be a fun season.
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(https://i.imgur.com/09oYZmy.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/obj/status/1042738883698589696?s=09
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Ereck Flowers benched. I guess the preseason talk about how he had improved so much was premature.
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https://twitter.com/angelsteve89/status/1046795203674349568?s=09
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https://twitter.com/angelsteve89/status/1046795203674349568?s=09
Do you know how easy is it to score 20 points in today's NFL?! #NYG
I feel attacked.
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Hahahah
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That was insane
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https://twitter.com/yahoosports/status/1049306416673116160?s=21
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At this rate I'm not going to need Sunday Ticket again this year.
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Apparently they're planning to trade or cut Flowers in the next few days. I'd honestly give them a 7th round pick just to see if we could do something with him, we're desperately short of talent on the OL and he was a first round pick for a reason.
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Apparently they're planning to trade or cut Flowers in the next few days. I'd honestly give them a 7th round pick just to see if we could do something with him, we're desperately short of talent on the OL and he was a first round pick for a reason.
Dudes gonna cut. Question is whether he will clear waivers or not. Unless a team lost a starting tackle to an extended injury, I don't see why a team would even a 7th for him and pay him the close to 2 million he's owed this year.
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https://twitter.com/yahoosports/status/1049306416673116160?s=21
That's basically how half these announcers sound when Tom Brady is on the field
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Dudes gonna cut. Question is whether he will clear waivers or not. Unless a team lost a starting tackle to an extended injury, I don't see why a team would even a 7th for him and pay him the close to 2 million he's owed this year.
Because $2M is freak all if you manage to turn him into even a serviceable swing tackle, and the 7th because there are teams ahead of us in the waiver order who might have interest.
inb4 Alio turns up to tell me how the Giants will never trade with the Jets or something.
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Apparently they're planning to trade or cut Flowers in the next few days. I'd honestly give them a 7th round pick just to see if we could do something with him, we're desperately short of talent on the OL and he was a first round pick for a reason.
He is absolute excrement. I’d rather bring back Wayne Hunter.
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He is absolute excrement. I’d rather bring back Wayne Hunter.
No one is as bad as Ben Ijalana. But never mind that, did you find your dog?
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Because $2M is freak all if you manage to turn him into even a serviceable swing tackle, and the 7th because there are teams ahead of us in the waiver order who might have interest.
inb4 Alio turns up to tell me how the Giants will never trade with the Jets or something.
I understand that
But the dude is an absolute trainwreck in the final year of his rookie contract.
Getting a guy like that midseason, I dont really know what you can do with him. Unless youre absolutely desperate plagued by injuries thats a different story. If he had one more year on his rookie deal, I can at least understand the logic in trading for him, with hopes that he can be a stop gap this year and develop some semblance of competence in the off-season.
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Sign this beast
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Gano lo Gano
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No one is as bad as Ben Ijalana. But never mind that, did you find your dog?
Long story, short...no
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@RapSheet
2 minutes ago
The #Giants announced they are placing OT Ereck Flowers, former first-round pick, on waivers.
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@RapSheet
2 minutes ago
The #Giants announced they are placing OT Ereck Flowers, former first-round pick, on waivers.
I think it's hilarious that the Giants passed on Todd Gurley and Melvin Gordon for this guy.
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Because $2M is freak all if you manage to turn him into even a serviceable swing tackle, and the 7th because there are teams ahead of us in the waiver order who might have interest.
inb4 Alio turns up to tell me how the Giants will never trade with the Jets or something.
I'm pretty sure I never said anything like that.
Not wanting to trade their draft pick in the draft that could net them a player like Darnold is quite different from trading a player they don't want for a pick that could be useful later.
And in hindsight, I'd have been right about the draft. Could you imagine Giants fans right now, had the Giants traded down to allow the Jets to pick Darnold in their spot? All those fans would be screaming that they should have taken Darnold (and they were to begin with anyway) and that they gave him away to the Jets. And there's no way the papers wouldn't be eviscerating them right now.
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As for Flowers, if I were Maccagnan, I'd claim him off waivers. He's not going to take Beachum's job, but he could be an upgrade on the right.
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And in hindsight, I'd have been right about the draft. Could you imagine Giants fans right now, had the Giants traded down to allow the Jets to pick Darnold in their spot? All those fans would be screaming that they should have taken Darnold (and they were to begin with anyway) and that they gave him away to the Jets. And there's no way the papers wouldn't be eviscerating them right now.
As far as I can tell, the fans are currently screaming that they should have taken Darnold and that they gave him away to the Jets. In my scenario, they'd have had an extra pick as well. In fact, given how the draft panned out my suggestion would have been exactly the right thing for them to do, given they took Barkley anyway.
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As far as I can tell, the fans are currently screaming that they should have taken Darnold and that they gave him away to the Jets. In my scenario, they'd have had an extra pick as well. In fact, given how the draft panned out my suggestion would have been exactly the right thing for them to do, given they took Barkley anyway.
I don't disagree with you. And if they really were determined to take Barkley no matter what, they should've traded with the Jets to get that extra pick, as you said.
That doesn't change the reasoning why they didn't/wouldn't. If they had traded with the Jets, no one would've believed them that they always intended on taking Barkley, and everyone would be pissed they gave away Darnold to the Jets. Of course it's irrational, given how it played out anyway, but a large part of fandom is the irrationality of it.
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As for Flowers, if I were Maccagnan, I'd claim him off waivers. He's not going to take Beachum's job, but he could be an upgrade on the right.
Brandon Shell is our best offensive lineman.
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Brandon Shell is our best offensive lineman.
You think so? The only time I notice him is when he's getting beat. I guess that's really the only time you do notice OL, but I feel like I notice him too often.
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Full quote by Giants owner John Mara on Odell Beckham: "I wish he would create the headlines by his play on the field as opposed to what he says and what he does off the field. I think he needs to do a little more playing and a little less talking."
Circus
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Circus
Uttah disastuh
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Uttah disastuh
Dey STINK!!!
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I just saw the clip of Mara weakly tossing chairs around in the owner's box and it made my day.
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https://twitter.com/WillBlackmon/status/1052373396825104384?s=19
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I just saw the clip of Mara weakly tossing chairs around in the owner's box and it made my day.
Bahahahahahaaaaaaaa
Anyone know what specific play that was after?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/backaftathis/status/1053471161793810437
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(#1)
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According to @AdamSchefter on SportsCenter this morning, everyone on the #Giants "outside of Saquon Barkley" is available for the right price before Tuesday's trade deadline.
"Olivier Vernon is available. Landon Collins is available," Schefter added.
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Between the Jets and Dodgers, what made me happy yesterday was the Giants game and the Knicks not playing.
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Let’s trade a bullshit pick for Eli and bench his derriere just to pee off Giants fans
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Let’s trade a bullshit pick for Eli and bench his derriere just to pee off Giants fans
Not worth the cap space
I'm not sure if seeing Eli go to Jacksonville and winning it all would make them happy or pissed off.
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Not worth the cap space
I'm not sure if seeing Eli go to Jacksonville and winning it all would make them happy or pissed off.
Mostly happy, I think. As far as I can tell they seem pretty fucked off with Gettleman and would like Eli to reunite with Coughlin for one more shot at a ring, although much as I like Eli he really does look like he might have run out of steam.
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Kyle Lauletta arrested.
HAHAHAHA. That franchise is a smoldering dumpster fire of a freaking joke.
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That’s brilliant stuff. Worst drive of season bahahah
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I hate the Giants but I was happy for Eli to pull out that game last night. Helps that they're garbage and have no shot, also that winning hurts them at this point. But good for Eli.
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I hate the Giants but I was happy for Eli to pull out that game last night. Helps that they're garbage and have no shot, also that winning hurts them at this point. But good for Eli.
I felt kinda good about it too until I heard the filthy casuals at the office talking about football, now that the Giants won another game they think the Jets have 1 win for some reason.
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#Giants WR Jawill Davis, placed on Injured Reserve a few minutes ago, actually suffered a dislocated patella while dancing in the locker room, sources say. That’s a new one. The dislocation is said to be slight. But still, his season is over.
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#Giants WR Jawill Davis, placed on Injured Reserve a few minutes ago, actually suffered a dislocated patella while dancing in the locker room, sources say. That’s a new one. The dislocation is said to be slight. But still, his season is over.
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Kyle Lauletta is in the game. Lining up at wide receiver.
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wtf are the giants doing letting Landon Collins walk?! lol
my buddy the giants fan said Gettleman was offered a pick for him at the deadline and refused...now he walks for nothing. That fanbase is on fire this morning.
The Jets should sign him. Maye can't stay healthy anyway.
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Something weird has been happening with safeties in the league these past few seasons. It seems like they're losing value.
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wtf are the giants doing letting Landon Collins walk?! lol
my buddy the giants fan said Gettleman was offered a pick for him at the deadline and refused...now he walks for nothing. That fanbase is on fire this morning.
The Jets should sign him. Maye can't stay healthy anyway.
Apparently they don’t think he’s good enough in coverage to pay him. They were offered the Buc’s 3rd round pick (~#70), which is basically a 2nd. Now they’ll have to wait until 2020 and hope they recoup a comp pick - at the bottom of the 3rd round.
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Apparently they don’t think he’s good enough in coverage to pay him. They were offered the Buc’s 3rd round pick (~#70), which is basically a 2nd. Now they’ll have to wait until 2020 and hope they recoup a comp pick - at the bottom of the 3rd round.
I absolutely love that Gettleman is worse than Jerry Reese
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https://mobile.twitter.com/rvacchianosny/status/1110186282104152065
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The E.L.I. system:
- Establish opponent's field position
- Let go of football
- Interception
ELIte post
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https://twitter.com/Mathieu_Era/status/1117296204587700226
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https://twitter.com/Mathieu_Era/status/1117296204587700226
Gettleman would trade both 1s and then some for Russel.
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Gettleman would trade both 1s and then some for Russel.
I would too.
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I would too.
Not sure I would, but if the opportunity exists then Gettleman may have little choice if he wants to stay employed.
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Not sure I would, but if the opportunity exists then Gettleman may have little choice if he wants to stay employed.
Why wouldn’t you?
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Why wouldn’t you?
Because he'll be 31 this season and if I'm the Giants GM and not in fear of my job I'm not giving up all my worthwhile draft capital for the next two years or more, plus giving him the monster contract he's looking for, when I have other significant holes in my roster that need to be filled. The Giants aren't a QB away from contending, but they might be a QB away from being good enough to keep Gettleman employed for the next few years.
If he trades for Wilson they've got nothing left in the tank. They have to win with what they have and I don't think they can.
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Because he'll be 31 this season and if I'm the Giants GM and not in fear of my job I'm not giving up all my worthwhile draft capital for the next two years or more, plus giving him the monster contract he's looking for, when I have other significant holes in my roster that need to be filled. The Giants aren't a QB away from contending, but they might be a QB away from being good enough to keep Gettleman employed for the next few years.
If he trades for Wilson they've got nothing left in the tank. They have to win with what they have and I don't think they can.
Wilson is good enough to win with less. He always has.
We’re seeing the greats play into their 40s. Wilson can get there too.
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Wilson is good enough to win with less. He always has.
We’re seeing the greats play into their 40s. Wilson can get there too.
While i think you easily grab russel for 2 1sts, i would be worried about a qb who relies on his legs as much as him lasting as long as other qbs
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While i think you easily grab russel for 2 1sts, i would be worried about a qb who relies on his legs as much as him lasting as long as other qbs
He's never missed a game despite playing for long periods behind one of the worst OLs in the league. I don't know that he's any higher a risk of injury than any others.
I completely understand why someone would be willing to give up a king's ransom for him, I just don't know that if I were a GM I would. It will definitely be more than two firsts. I think I'd be more inclined to pay the price needed to get Murray, and if I'm Gettleman I might just prefer Haskins - he's a more natural successor to Eli and could easily spend this season sitting learning behind him.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1121585021436006400 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1121585021436006400)
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Thats kind of hilariously true
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https://v.redd.it/5juhwzq988w21
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Hate to say it, but Daniel Jones looks pretty good. We'll see what happens during the regular season when he's going against less vanilla looks, but he looks pretty calm in the pocket and has shown confidence to make contested throws.
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Could it be that the Giants actually hit on this draft pick and will make everyone else the laughing stock?
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Could it be that the Giants actually hit on this draft pick and will make everyone else the laughing stock?
You say everyone, but it's useful to remember that some on this board are not bad at watching football and don't just go along with the zeitgeist:
Daniel Jones is a good prospect. he was overdrafted though. I saw him going to the Giants at 17 . not 6. I dont see him as a human trashcan that people seem to think he is though lol
Daniel Jones playing for Duke at 1:30 today has a chance to be QB2.
Daniel Jones could end up being QB1 with a great showing today and a strong whiteboard showing in meeting's at the combine.
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You say everyone, but it's useful to remember that some on this board are not bad at watching football and don't just go along with the zeitgeist:
You mean like how you joined the Gase pitchfork party 5 mins after his hiring?
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You mean like how you joined the Gase pitchfork party 5 mins after his hiring?
To be fair, I was in the Gase pitchfork party before he was hired, and I'm broadly still there until I see a reason not to be. You left it five minutes after his hiring, sprinted to the fence in the middle, briefly teetered on the top proclaiming indifference, then dived headlong into the cheerleader party on the other side.
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To be fair, I was in the Gase pitchfork party before he was hired, and I'm broadly still there until I see a reason not to be. You left it five minutes after his hiring, sprinted to the fence in the middle, briefly teetered on the top proclaiming indifference, then dived headlong into the cheerleader party on the other side.
I started supporting the hire 3 days after he was hired and giving it some thought....but tell yourself whatever helps you sleep at night.
I think you should sit on your pitchfork
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Perpetual sunshiner here. I was opposed to the hire until he was hired. Then I immediately started trying to find an excuse to like him because I'm usually wrong anyway and so I could feel good about the future instead of being like Seafood.
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Perpetual sunshiner here. I was opposed to the hire until he was hired. Then I immediately started trying to find an excuse to like him because I'm usually wrong anyway and so I could feel good about the future instead of being like Seafood.
That's exactly what MB did. You're just honest with yourself.
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That's exactly what MB did. You're just honest with yourself.
You are wrong
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You are wrong
Are you saying that he's not honest, or that that's not what you did? Because the evidence is all here and you know I'm petty enough to dig it up if you make me. And I also have the ability to see if you're petty enough to delete it.
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Are you saying that he's not honest, or that that's not what you did? Because the evidence is all here and you know I'm petty enough to dig it up if you make me. And I also have the ability to see if you're petty enough to delete it.
I’m unstable enough to delete the whole database....wanna roll the dice?
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I’m unstable enough to delete the whole database....wanna roll the dice?
Haha. All right Donald, you do have the nuclear option.
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I’m unstable enough to delete the whole database....wanna roll the dice?
See u on the other side
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As long as the Giants didn't draft a complete fuckwit (see: Smith, Geno) there was a chance whoever they drafted would turn out okay. Whether you believe Eli is completely done or not, the Giants can stick with him just based on reputation, giving whoever they draft time to grow.
And I still think they made the right decision last year with Barkley. Sure, Darnold would've been a ridiculous star for them, but Barkley was worth the skip, which is further justified if Jones works out.
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As long as the Giants didn't draft a complete fuckwit (see: Smith, Geno) there was a chance whoever they drafted would turn out okay. Whether you believe Eli is completely done or not, the Giants can stick with him just based on reputation, giving whoever they draft time to grow.
And I still think they made the right decision last year with Barkley. Sure, Darnold would've been a ridiculous star for them, but Barkley was worth the skip, which is further justified if Jones works out.
Even if Jones and Barkley pan out, I don't see how you can say the giants made the right decision, unless their scouting reports somehow said Darnold was a bsut
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Even if Jones and Barkley pan out, I don't see how you can say the giants made the right decision, unless their scouting reports somehow said Darnold was a bsut
As I said at the time Barkley was drafted, Eli was still the starter, so the Barkley pick was a last-ditch effort to win with Manning. Obviously, that didn't work out, but it's what I'd have done in that position.
And if Jones pans out, they got extremely lucky. Sometimes that's how things work out. More power to them.
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i don't know if the criticism was really about jones being a reach; i think a lot of it was general feelings that the giants could have taken a pass rusher at 6, and then still ended up with jones at 17. i don't really like that argument. that high up, if there is a guy you are in love with at QB you take him as soon as you can, and don't get hung over trying to wait out the value of another 5-10 spots.
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Eli Manning era just ended
Jones named the starter.
That whole Geno Smith thing a few years ago makes it much easier for them to bench Eli
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I don't think Eli is good any more, but I'm pretty sure he's not the main problem either.
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I don't think Eli is good any more, but I'm pretty sure he's not the main problem either.
He’s definitely not the solution, so it’s a good decision to move on.
They just should have done it in the offseason so they would have had $17M to throw at a receiver for their rookie QB or an edge rusher for their excrement D.
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He’s definitely not the solution, so it’s a good decision to move on.
They just should have done it in the offseason so they would have had $17M to throw at a receiver for their rookie QB or an edge rusher for their excrement D.
To be fair nobody expected Jones to be good this season. So if the guy wasn't ready, do you really want to throw him into the fire and destroy any confidence/hope for the future for the guy.
Plus I can see why they'd think it would be beneficial to sit behind Eli for a year.
Didn't work out that way because Eli is done, but it really wasn't the worst idea
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We should trade for eli
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$33 million in cap space with $16M on OBJ’s dead cap hit and $17M on Eli’s cap hit.
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We should trade for eli
Counterpoint: No
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$33 million in cap space with $16M on OBJ’s dead cap hit and $17M on Eli’s cap hit.
Counterpoint
Trumaine Johnson got 45 million guaranteed from us and can't play football
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Counterpoint: No
Counterpoint: Yes. Quarterback competition. Darnold vs eli. Let's go
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Counterpoint
Trumaine Johnson got 45 million guaranteed from us and can't play football
Well yeah, there's that.
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Counterpoint
Trumaine Johnson got 45 million guaranteed from us and can't play football
This would be a good counterpoint if Trumaine was 40 and we had just used our #6 on a CB
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This would be a good counterpoint if Trumaine was 40 and we had just used our #6 on a CB
How old and paid was Darnolds backup QB his rookie year?
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When I saw the thumbnail for this image on Facebook I thought the woman was wearing blackface(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190923/34f36abb5578ed8a3089a1089ae82ec6.jpg)
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When I saw the thumbnail for this image on Facebook I thought the woman was wearing blackface(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190923/34f36abb5578ed8a3089a1089ae82ec6.jpg)
She could still get elected in Virginia and Canada.
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When I saw the thumbnail for this image on Facebook I thought the woman was wearing blackface(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190923/34f36abb5578ed8a3089a1089ae82ec6.jpg)
nice saggers
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Source: Giants RB Barkley likely out 4-8 weeks
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27685128/source-giants-rb-barkley-likely-4-8-weeks
shittttttt
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He'll be back before our game with them
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He'll be back before our game with them
So will Nathan Shepherd tho
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Was tired of hearing how Daniel Jones is the god so I decided to take a look at his play against the bucs. NFL.com has a video of all of his throws.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWY2RaVPze0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWY2RaVPze0)
For his first start he played very well. He did a good job manuevering in the pocket and he seems very calm under pressure. A few things no one seems to be talking about.
- He turned the ball once, but should have had 3 turnovers
- 80 of his yards came on a catch and run touchdown by Engram
- He looks much more comfortable throwing against man than throwing against zone. You saw a ton of completions on drag routes
- Many of his receivers were wide open
Net-Net: I expect his performance to decline significantly. He may do fine against the redskins defense, but the Vikings, Pats, Lions, and Cowboys are going to be difficult for him.
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Daniel Jones was coached by the best QB coach in the history of the sport.
He will be very mechanically sound and he'll have a good understanding of an offense, but you can take away his strengths by forcing him to read zone coverages from inside the pocket.
There wasn't any non-preseason tape on him for defensive coordinators to look at.
They'll start making him uncomfortable soon.
FTR, I think he can be a very good game manager type in this league. I thought it was a very smart pick by the Giants. But he is certainly limited as a thrower and opponents will attack him sooner than later.
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https://twitter.com/everythingnyg/status/1176999328956780545?s=21
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Jones plays a slightly better defense and throws 2 interceptions.
Lets see what he does against The Vikings and then on a short week against the Patriots
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Good thing about tonight, either the Pats lose or Daniel Jones gets excrement all over by a real defense.
Not watch the Pats win 47-46 in a shootout.
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Good thing about tonight, either the Pats lose or Daniel Jones gets excrement all over by a real defense.
Not watch the Pats win 47-46 in a shootout.
People have been wetting themselves over how good the Patriots D is, and it is good, but look at the offenses they've face this year. Pittsburgh, Jets, Miami, Buffalo and Washington.
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People have been wetting themselves over how good the Patriots D is, and it is good, but look at the offenses they've face this year. Pittsburgh, Jets, Miami, Buffalo and Washington.
Fair point. Jones hasn't beaten a decent defense either.
Hopefully the Pats lose 7-6 and both QBs tear their assholes on a pylon. Then Eli Manning comes in for a game-winning drive in the 4th just to freak with the franchise.
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As annoying as the hype would be, I have no choice but to root for Daniel Jones.
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As annoying as the hype would be, I have no choice but to root for Daniel Jones.
Daniel is an anagram of Eli DNA.
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As annoying as the hype would be, I have no choice but to root for Daniel Jones.
I'm hoping for a defensive struggle with many injuries. Final score- Giants 2, Pats-0 on a game ending safety sack of Brady that ends his season. Not too much to ask.
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New England has been playing against backups all season, its freaking absurd their match up luck
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Danny Pennies.
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Best QB on the field might be this Daniel dude
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Can someone find and adopt this cat?!
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Please dear baby Jesus let the rumors that Jason Garrett will go to the Giants if he gets fired be true.
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Please dear baby Jesus let the rumors that Jason Garrett will go to the Giants if he gets fired be true.
The confused anger from Giants fans would be beautiful.
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https://twitter.com/JordanRaanan/status/1202254578273705985?s=19
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So how many rookie/2nd year QB's have gotten murdered behind horrible OLs full of backups this year?
Darnold Baker Jones all seem to have a lot in common
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I hope Eli wins out, then retires just to freak with their fanbase.
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Oh man, I would love for the giants to win, confuse their fans, and miss out on chase young
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At this point it would be nice to see Eli go in and finish up with a couple wins.
And freak the Giants in the draft. Two for one.
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Praying for Eli to tear his Achilles or something
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I'm rooting for Eli to completely destroy their draft position.
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Praying for Eli to tear his Achilles or something
Isn't he owed like $20 million next year? Best thing for us is if he wins them a few down the stretch decides not to retire this year. Gives Gettlemen just enough money to resign Leonard Williams and bump that pick up a round.
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No hate for Eli. When the Giants are this bad I don't mind if they win.
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I like Eli, and I also like the Giants. I'm pulling for him.
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I don’t hate Eli but I’d love to hear Giants fans in tears on the FAN
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I like Eli, and I also like the Giants. I'm pulling for him.
I hope Eli wins enough games to pull the giants out of the Chase Young derby.
Everything else, i don't give a rats' derriere.
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I hope Eli throws for 400 yards with 4 TD's.
I vehementy hate both fanbases, but Eli has represented this city with class and dignity since he got here. In the same way I would hope a Mets fan would give the ole tip of the cap to Jeter on his way out, same logic applies here.
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I like Eli because between them the Manning brothers have ensured that there will always be a question over whether Brady is the GOAT.
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I like Eli because between them the Manning brothers have ensured that there will always be a question over whether Brady is the GOAT.
Eh with all the rings I don't think the Mannings did much to stymie that.
I'd say the cheating and have BB as a crutch makes it more questionable.
Hell seeing the Patriots look as good as they do this year despite Brady being sapped, makes you realize BB is the real MVP
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Giants cut Jackrabbit which he immediately responds to by saying, "best news ever."
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If i didn't know better, I'd think Rex is trying to talk his way into the Giants job. He's been practically blowing Daniel Jones every week and excrement talking their defense. I wonder what kind of coach could fix that situation.... That would stir up some excrement with the NY media
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If i didn't know better, I'd think Rex is trying to talk his way into the Giants job. He's been practically blowing Daniel Jones every week and excrement talking their defense. I wonder what kind of coach could fix that situation.... That would stir up some excrement with the NY media
I'm ok with it. Just to see Giants fans have to deal the inner turmoil they'd feel.
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I'm ok with it. Just to see Giants fans have to deal the inner turmoil they'd feel.
It would be far worse for jets fans.
The Giants getting Rex and us going into next season with freaking Gase.
That said I'm pretty sure that's not a thing
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The #Giants are keeping GM Dave Gettleman, source said. He will, as he mentioned, meet with reporters on Tuesday.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191230/a1bb3822c7a90a8a9d53ab93e2f6effd.gif)
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I think Rex has the same chance for the Giants job that any of us do. There's absolutely no way.
Had Rex not directly run into the Bills job, he'd have his opportunities right now.
Still think the XFL should've tried to take a run at him to coach the New York franchise, but that probably means him having to give up his ESPN gig.
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Rapsheet: Matt Rhule is a hot candidate and has interest from the #Giants, #Panthers and almost certainly #Cowboys. NYG is absolutely attractive to him.
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If i didn't know better, I'd think Rex is trying to talk his way into the Giants job. He's been practically blowing Daniel Jones every week and excrement talking their defense. I wonder what kind of coach could fix that situation.... That would stir up some excrement with the NY media
Francesa would have an epic meltdown.
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I'm not sure why everyone assumes Rhule is going to be a good HC in the NFL just because Baylor had a good record. He may be, but that's a dumb reason to bitch about him not being with the Jets. College and NFL are different animals. Ask Nick Saban.
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The #Giants are keeping GM Dave Gettleman, source said. He will, as he mentioned, meet with reporters on Tuesday.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191230/a1bb3822c7a90a8a9d53ab93e2f6effd.gif)
Excellent. Priority one for Dave needs to be that long term extension for Leonard Williams at $15 million per year
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Excellent. Priority one for Dave needs to be that long term extension for Leonard Williams at $15 million per year
He can sign him for a dollar....doesn’t matter. The 4th rounder is coming our way regardless of the contract amount
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He can sign him for a dollar....doesn’t matter. The 4th rounder is coming our way regardless of the contract amount
It does matter. We need maximum cap wastage.
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It does matter. We need maximum cap wastage.
Haha
Dcm’s head just exploded
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Giants will let their new HC pick his own staff
Giants saw the Jets ineptitude on full display last offseason and were smart to not repeat the same mistake
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It does matter. We need maximum cap wastage.
That was where I was going with this...
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Rhule has so far been speaking glowingly of Gettlemen. Let's see how long that lasts.
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Francesa would have an epic meltdown.
I’ve heard Francesa say that Rex would be a brilliant hire for the Giants as DC. No way he wants him at HC though
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I’ve heard Francesa say that Rex would be a brilliant hire for the Giants as DC. No way he wants him at HC though
I haven't paid a lot of attention to Rex's broadcasting, but I did hear him on Costello's podcast and he seems happy doing TV.
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I haven't paid a lot of attention to Rex's broadcasting, but I did hear him on Costello's podcast and he seems happy doing TV.
at different times this year rex has pined for the jets and giants HC positions on air, as well as stating he'd be a good DC for some teams that need defensive expertise (cowboys) and would come back if the money was right, but then he plays it off like a joke
i think he really enjoys TV, i think he does great on TV (best was him taking any shot at Baker that he could, justified lol) and i think he's having fun, but if the right offer/contract came along he'd go back to coaching.
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at different times this year rex has pined for the jets and giants HC positions on air, as well as stating he'd be a good DC for some teams that need defensive expertise (cowboys) and would come back if the money was right, but then he plays it off like a joke
i think he really enjoys TV, i think he does great on TV (best was him taking any shot at Baker that he could, justified lol) and i think he's having fun, but if the right offer/contract came along he'd go back to coaching.
I could see that too.
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"We bought some of dem der computerizer gizmos to get on da world wide webs."(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191231/2cb81508707fafcaa191e88ef38fa93d.jpg)
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Rhule was a finalist for the Jets' job last year, but talks broke down over his unwillingness to give up the power to pick his staff. According to league sources, Rhule wanted to bring former Giants wide receivers and quarterback coach Sean Ryan to the Jets as his offensive coordinator. But team brass with Gang Green chose not to give him full authority on control of his staff, so any potential deal failed to materialize.
Art Stapleton
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Art Stapleton
I wonder how Mike Maccagnan feels about that now.
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I wonder how Mike Maccagnan feels about that now.
I hope he chokes on his Dunkin donut.
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Would love it if Rhule goes to Carolina and the Giants are forced to get sloppy seconds.
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Would love it if Rhule goes to Carolina and the Giants are forced to get sloppy seconds.
Dowell Loggains is available
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Dowell Loggains is available
Never. He stays here as red flag man.
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it appears the Giants miss their man as Rhule has agreed to be the next head coach of the Carolina Panthers.
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it appears the Giants miss their man as Rhule has agreed to be the next head coach of the Carolina Panthers.
Lol.
Please make this happen....
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the Giants hiring Marvin Lewis or Jason Garrett would be hilarious
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Lol.
Please make this happen....
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Apparently that's their actual plan
I would be very not surprised to see it come to fruition
On a side note the panthers have giving Rhule a ton of freaking power
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Apparently that's their actual plan
I would be very not surprised to see it come to fruition
I freaking love Dave Gettleman. Please stay there forever.
All kidding aside, they will probably improve short term because they can't get worse. Then they will live in 7-9 win purgatory.
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it appears the Giants miss their man as Rhule has agreed to be the next head coach of the Carolina Panthers.
We'll get to find out if he's the next Chip Kelly.
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Giants ask for permission to interview Garrett.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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After all that excrement with Garrett giants jsut hired Joe Judge to be their HC
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Lol Joe Judge
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he went from a outside chance candidate at mississippi state to getting the ny giants head coaching job in the span of 3 days.
what
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If i was a Giants fan, I'd be much happier about whoever this poopchute is because he isn't Garrett. He may be awful but at least there's some mystery.
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he went from a outside chance candidate at mississippi state to getting the ny giants head coaching job in the span of 3 days.
what
Owners get boners when its part of the Belichick tree. It's like trying to get a girl to go home with you at the club. You end up doing dumb excrement and find out it wasn't worth it.
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Supposedly Belichick has been grooming Judge for years for this opportunity. Really weird how this played out regardless.
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Supposedly Belichick has been grooming Judge for years for this opportunity. Really weird how this played out regardless.
I’ll file this hire under all the other excrement nwe assistant hires
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Did not see that coming. Exactly like Gase last year with us, caught me off guard, like they didn't look very hard.
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Did not see that coming. Exactly like Gase last year with us, caught me off guard, like they didn't look very hard.
I have a hunch McCarthy was their fallback if Rhule fell thru.
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Joe Judge? LOL
The battle at MetLife stadium of who's going to be the shittier HC.
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Apparently Rhule called the Giants before signing with the Panthers, giving them the opportunity to match his contract.
They declined
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Don't know enough about this guy to make fun of it, but that won't stop me.
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Apparently Joe Judge’s top OC choice is Jason Garrett
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Did the Giants even try to interview McRoberts?
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Is it me or do teams fill the jobs faster the last year or two? I remember teams waiting all the way through the playoffs to talk to different assistants, with small windows for the teams that were still going. When we hired Herm, Mangini and Rex it was late January, I think Bowles, too. Kind of blocked that one out.
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Apparently Gettleman's top OC choice is Jason Garrett
FYP
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The course of this thread today was hilarious
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Wonder how much the Panthers offered Rhule. I think their new owner will spend whatever it takes
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Wonder how much the Panthers offered Rhule. I think their new owner will spend whatever it takes
The NFL insider reports that Rhule is getting a seven-year contract worth $60 million. The contract could be worth up to $70 million with incentives.
And apparently he has some CEO powers and they agreed to make a sports rehab facility as part of his demands as well
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Rhule really let his dick hang during contract negotiations
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The NFL insider reports that Rhule is getting a seven-year contract worth $60 million. The contract could be worth up to $70 million with incentives.
And apparently he has some CEO powers and they agreed to make a sports rehab facility as part of his demands as well
Are you half chub or full mast?
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Somewhere is a Giants equivalent to this board, it's almost worth finding right now.
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SBTG(ase)
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Wonder how much the Panthers offered Rhule. I think their new owner will spend whatever it takes
I think it was in the realm of 7 year / $60M
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Already superior to Gase.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/B7H41AdBxAK/
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Already superior to Gase.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/B7H41AdBxAK/
Because as we learned in the past, winning the press conference is a guarantee of success.
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Because as we learned in the past, winning the press conference is a guarantee of success.
Correct
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Rex Ryan is the greatest coach of all time then
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Joe Judge, fluent in coach-speak
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Rex Ryan is the greatest coach of all time then
Herm Edwards
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Towel Logjam is the greatest coach of all time then
Fyp
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Joe Judge, fluent in coach-speak
While I want to make fun of it, its hard to when you compare it to Gase's opening press conference.
I also agree with his vision. I don't want a headcoach who is calling plays. He should be the leader and manager of the team.
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After watching the press conference I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up as a good coach, but the giants will be as good as their coordinators.
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After watching the press conference I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up as a good coach, but the giants will be as good as their coordinators.
I'd say the Jets were exactly that this year.
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I'd say the Jets were exactly that this year.
Well they have 2 out of 3.
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Giants hired Jason Garrett as OC
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now all the cowboy offensive secrets will be unleashed, oh no
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Not a bad hire. Probably the most qualified candidate available. I’m not sure how much credit he gets for Dak’s development so he could be good for Daniel Jones.
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Not bad to have a seasoned head coach around to help you learn the ropes. Like how to clap enthusiastically when your offense comes off the field after a 3 and out.
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Giants making moves
ESPN's Dan Graziano reports the Giants will interview former Dolphins OL coach Dave DeGuglielmo for the same position.
DeGuglielmo previously served as an assistant OL and quality control coach for the Giants from 2004-08. The 51-year-old has history with Giants coach Joe Judge, who worked with DeGuglielmo when both were assistants under Bill Belichick in New England from 2014-15. DeGuglielmo spent last year as the Dolphins' OL coach but was let go shortly after Week 17.
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I can't wait for the horrible confusion thst is going to be caused by Judge's team struggling and the fanbase calling for Garrett to take over HC duties.
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Former Browns coach Freddie Kitchens is expected to be hired by the Giants.
It's unclear what his defined role will be, but it will presumably be as a positional coach under OC Jason Garrett. Kitchens and coach Joe Judge have worked together previously at Mississippi State and Kitchens' experience as an NFL head coach is likely viewed as a big plus for Judge, who is making a big leap into head coaching. Kitchens hasn't been considered for notable jobs since his Cleveland firing, so it's likely that the two parties come to an agreement soon. Judge, Garrett, and Kitchens all being on the same coaching staff is a treat for us all
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It's funny for a new coach they sure are surrounding him with some other failed coaches. I wonder if Kotite is in their rolodex. Mara probably got that old stooge Casserly on the phone.
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It's funny for a new coach they sure are surrounding him with some other failed coaches. I wonder if Kotite is in their rolodex. Mara probably got that old stooge Casserly on the phone.
Failed head coaches. That's an important distinction. They are surrounding the rookie head coach with coaches who have experience at higher levels and proven success at their positional levels. Its a smart strategy that has worked well in LA and GB
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Failed head coaches. That's an important distinction. They are surrounding the rookie head coach with coaches who have experience at higher levels and proven success at their positional levels. Its a smart strategy that has worked well in LA and GB
"Failed" is also a blanket statement. Garrett had some good years in Dallas.
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Failed head coaches. That's an important distinction. They are surrounding the rookie head coach with coaches who have experience at higher levels and proven success at their positional levels. Its a smart strategy that has worked well in LA and GB
Garrett I think is a decent move (thoguh his effectiveness as an OC is highly suspect)
Kitchens is not someone I'd want around. And Guge didn't exactly have success
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Yeah, I'm sorry, Steven A. Smith hating on this hire literally because of Garrett's skin color as opposed to any substantive reasoning regarding his playcalling, development of qb's or lack thereof is ridiculous.
Can someone tell this uninformed poopchute that the Giants defensive coordinator is black.
This focus on racial identity is societal cancer.
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This focus on racial identity is societal cancer.
We had largely gotten away from it for a long time, like decades. The last ten years or so it's gotten way worse and doesn't help anything.
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We had largely gotten away from it for a long time, like decades. The last ten years or so it's gotten way worse and doesn't help anything.
I mean that tends to happen when the first black president gets elected and a large segment of the country gets upset
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I mean that tends to happen when the first black president gets elected and a large segment of the country gets upset
Spoiler alert
A large segment of the country gets upset everytime a president gets elected.
While no doubts race came into play with Obama. There's no way you can say more people were upset when he got elected than when Bush or Trump were.
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Spoiler alert
A large segment of the country gets upset everytime a president gets elected.
While no doubts race came into play with Obama. There's no way you can say more people were upset when he got elected than when Bush or Trump were.
Agreed. If people were that upset because of his race, Obama wouldn't have been elected. He saw political capital in being a victim of racism and he played that card his whole time, which didn't help anything. Considering he is half white and half black, I was hoping he would be a much more unifying cultural figure than he turned out to be, politics aside.
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Eli Manning is retiring.
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Eli Manning is retiring.
o7
May he enjoy endless Tostitos
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Eli Manning is retiring.
Wow. Probably for the best. Because of my distaste for Giants fans I'd like to have seen him in one of the ugliest uniforms in the league, like Jacksonville, wearing #17 or something. But he seems like a good guy and he probably should retire.
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Nick Mangold
@nickmangold
Congrats Eli! #ThankYouEli
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I mean that tends to happen when the first black president gets elected and a large segment of the country gets upset
i know, they were so upset they re-elected him.
Wow. Probably for the best. Because of my distaste for Giants fans I'd like to have seen him in one of the ugliest uniforms in the league, like Jacksonville, wearing #17 or something. But he seems like a good guy and he probably should retire.
Good for him. I imagine the debate will be contentious, but to me Eli is definitely a Hall of Fame quarterback.
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Good for him. I imagine the debate will be contentious, but to me Eli is definitely a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Didn't Simms get in? If he's in Eli will get in, Eli was way better for longer.
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Good for him. I imagine the debate will be contentious, but to me Eli is definitely a Hall of Fame quarterback.
He's going in. If it was based strictly on his play there might be a debate, but HoF voters will be jerking each other off about how humble and modest he was despite the last name.
Is he first ballot, is the question. Julius Peppers better be or else they can burn the whole thing down. Gronk is probably first ballot, too. I don't know what Frank Gore's plans are but I'd like to see him get in on his first try.
edit: nm, Eli's not in that class.
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If Eli goes in its on the back of his 2 SB runs and nothing to do with the rest of his career
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If Eli goes in its on the back of his 2 SB runs and nothing to do with the rest of his career
Top ten all-time passing yards and TD's. Almost all those guys are in the hall or will be. 210 regular season starts in a row. And this was during the regular season as well:
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That picture gets my vote. Ditto his brother.
(https://i.imgur.com/ELIrAze.jpg)
Meme quality is HoF worthy.
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I think he’ll get in, but he strikes me as a compiler. I don’t think of him having played at a HoF level other than on those SB runs.
I guess Philip Rivers will get in too then. He has better numbers than Eli.
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I think he’ll get in, but he strikes me as a compiler. I don’t think of him having played at a HoF level other than on those SB runs.
I guess Philip Rivers will get in too then. He has better numbers than Eli.
Rivers was better but was stuck with a consistently mediocre franchise.
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Rivers was better but was stuck with a consistently mediocre franchise.
Rivers 2006 Chargers team was better than that second Giants super bowl team.
There was a point in time where gun to my head needing a drive in the 4th quarter I'd have gone with Eli over anybody in football with the exception of that scumbag in New England
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I think he’ll get in, but he strikes me as a compiler. I don’t think of him having played at a HoF level other than on those SB runs.
I guess Philip Rivers will get in too then. He has better numbers than Eli.
I see you also listen to the Dan lebatard show
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Eli gets in because of his SuperBowl wins over the Pats. Similar to Namath for us with his SuperBowl guarantee in SBIII. There is some value to “can you write the history of the league without ____ player in it” and in this case Eli is a major bullet point.
He’ll get in and I’m OK with it but at face value I don’t think he belongs.
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I see you also listen to the Dan lebatard show
I would sooner listen to the dcm show
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Eli gets in because of his SuperBowl wins over the Pats. Similar to Namath for us with his SuperBowl guarantee in SBIII. There is some value to “can you write the history of the league without ____ player in it” and in this case Eli is a major bullet point.
He’ll get in and I’m OK with it but at face value I don’t think he belongs.
this
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Rivers 2006 Chargers team was better than that second Giants super bowl team.
A lot of teams were. Our 2010 team the year before that was way better.
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2 plays go different in the Super Bowls and Eli has zero rings and an otherwise mediocre career.
Same can be said for most of Brady's rings, but not his career.
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I guess the question is should Phillip Rivers be a HOFer and does Eli get in over him
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2 plays go different in the Super Bowls and Eli has zero rings and an otherwise mediocre career.
I once saw a comparison of Namath and Vinny's careers, Vinny tops him in everything except that one game in Miami when Namath won the Super Bowl. Fair or not, it matters.
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Rivers was better but was stuck with a consistently mediocre franchise.
If Rivers gets in are you going to Canton to confuse people?
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If Rivers gets in are you going to Canton to confuse people?
I look like him if he actually had to give birth to all his kids all at once
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I would sooner listen to the dcm show
(https://i.imgflip.com/1pxgv7.gif)
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Also I would totally listen to a dcm podcast
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Also I would totally listen to a dcm podcast
The Cap Trap
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Joe Judge adamant about everyone getting an equal shot and starting at the ground level. He won’t publicly commit to Daniel Jones as his starting QB or Saquon Barkley as the starting RB. “No ones got a spot,” he said.
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Deandre Baker to be arrested on armed robbery charges.
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/giants-deandre-baker-arrest-warrant-issued/
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He literally makes millions on his rookie contract and steals $60,000 of watches and tries to get a guy killed.
Forfeiting more money by doing this than by just not committing robbery. Same goes for Dunbar
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He literally makes millions on his rookie contract and steals $60,000 of watches and tries to get a guy killed.
Forfeiting more money by doing this than by just not committing robbery. Same goes for Dunbar
I just don’t understand these people sometimes. Blows my mind the decisions some of these guys make
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Money doesn't fix people.
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Btw....LOL.
Gettleman, please stay with the Giants forever.
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Here is the arrest paperwork, it doesn't sound too good. lol
https://miramarfl.gov/DocumentCenter/View/15304/Click-Here (https://miramarfl.gov/DocumentCenter/View/15304/Click-Here)
jesus they all have $15,000+ watches on. lol
The link is legit (not a joke), the PO isn't the greatest writer, it's tough to read.
Miramar is a decent town, I didn't realize it had people with 20 grand to blow on a watch decent. lol
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so they lost a ton the day before, came back and started losing again and just went retarded? lolololo
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so they lost a ton the day before, came back and started losing again and just went retarded? lolololo
That should have been the Police Report, the end. lol
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Update: If Giants CB Deandre Baker was in fact holding a semiautomatic - as the witnesses say, he would face 15 year mandatory minimum on each of the 4 armed robbery charges if convicted (unless he gets a deal.) Aggravated assault charges up to Judge
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Let's spare a moment's thought for the real victim here though - not the guys who had their $25K Hublot or $18K Rolex or $17K Audemars taken, but the poor dude who got outed by the police report as wearing "a Richard Mille knock-off valued at $600". He's never going to be able to look his boys in the face again.
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Update: If Giants CB Deandre Baker was in fact holding a semiautomatic - as the witnesses say, he would face 15 year mandatory minimum on each of the 4 armed robbery charges if convicted (unless he gets a deal.) Aggravated assault charges up to Judge
Up to Joe Judge? Fucker's got some power over there.
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Update: If Giants CB Deandre Baker was in fact holding a semiautomatic - as the witnesses say, he would face 15 year mandatory minimum on each of the 4 armed robbery charges if convicted (unless he gets a deal.) Aggravated assault charges up to Judge
Damn. Say goodbye to your life Deandre Baker.
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https://twitter.com/EliManning/status/1264665636392894464?s=19
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this is going to be a freaking phenomenal ride
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K Aldrick Rosas arrested for hit and run
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K Aldrick Rosas arrested for hit and run
Apparently he t-boned someone going 100 mph drunk at 8:30 in the morning.
That sentence just gets progressively worse.
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Apparently he t-boned someone going 100 mph drunk at 8:30 in the morning.
That sentence just gets progressively worse.
this is fcked up
the person he hit has to be severely injured/dead
fck this piece of excrement
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Classy DUI
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this is fcked up
the person he hit has to be severely injured/dead
fck this piece of excrement
Apparently he was driving a Chevy SUV and the guy he hit was in a truck, so with a bit of luck they might have got away with it.
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@PLeonardNYDN
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Witnesses said Aldrick Rosas ran from the scene of the high-speed hit-and-run. And when responding officers found him walking nearly a mile and a half away, they observed "his hands, legs and bare feet were covered in blood."
Yikes.
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Also was driving on a suspended license.
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Looks like 2 teams in NY/NJ need a new kicker.
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Classy DUI
I understood this reference
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Also was driving on a suspended license.
I think it’s safe to say his days as an NFL kicker are now over.
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Should we sign him?
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Should we sign him?
Only after he's out of jail.
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Should we sign him?
I bet he is more reliable kicking a field goal blitzed out of his mind than a sober Ficken.
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https://twitter.com/NYGDaily/status/1279425297151135746
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https://twitter.com/NYGDaily/status/1279425297151135746
Please pay him. Please pay him.
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https://twitter.com/NYGDaily/status/1279425297151135746
How on earth can Leonard expect to be paid $18-$20 million?
If he gets that from anyone, then Jamal is easily worth the $20 million he is asking for
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Classy payoff
EXCLUSIVE and BREAKING news: Video evidence, Instagram DMs, testimony in search warrant obtained by @NYDNSports show payoff cover-up for #Giants’ DeAndre Baker and #Seahawks’ Quinton Dunbar, further implicate NFL players in alleged Fla. armed robbery https://t.co/Xk7qCoGd4a https://t.co/bfIQ529EVj
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https://twitter.com/KimJonesSports/status/1289994645884338176?s=19
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Currently losing to SF worse than we did
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Currently losing to SF worse than we did
I for one, am completely shocked Jason Garrett is a garbage OC.
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I for one, am completely shocked Jason Garrett is a garbage OC.
Giants trying to outmaneuver us for Lawrence.
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Giants trying to outmaneuver us for Lawrence.
Dowell Loggains is our ace in the hole.
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/patrick-mahomes-other-nfl-players-and-fans-react-on-twitter-to-daniel-jones-tripping-during-80-yard-run/amp/
The Diggs one, lol
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https://twitter.com/Skeeter696969/status/1319485775894007808?s=19 (https://twitter.com/Skeeter696969/status/1319485775894007808?s=19)
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Giants’ Daniel Jones, Saquon Barkley caught on video partying without masks amid coronavirus pandemic | Will they be punished? https://t.co/Ko55PJNvzR
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Giants’ Daniel Jones, Saquon Barkley caught on video partying without masks amid coronavirus pandemic | Will they be punished? https://t.co/Ko55PJNvzR
Give them an extra W as punishment.
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Give them an extra W as punishment.
I’m thinking 2
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Classy Giants
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Giants trade Markus Golden to Arizona.
https://sny.tv/articles/giants-trade-olb-markus-golden-to-arizona-in-exchange-for-2021-sixth-round-pick (https://sny.tv/articles/giants-trade-olb-markus-golden-to-arizona-in-exchange-for-2021-sixth-round-pick)
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https://twitter.com/NewsdaySports/status/1321832156755300352?s=19
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Tough spot for me. I love to see the Giants lose but I need them to win a couple.
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Could have sworn jpp was like 36. He's 31
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All charges against CB Deandre Baker dropped - lawyer for alleged victims arrested.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/all-charges-dropped-against-nfl-player-deandre-baker-n1247958
Florida prosecutors are dropping all charges against former New York Giant DeAndre Baker, that stemmed from an alleged robbery,
and an attorney representing three people who claimed to be victims was arrested on an extortion charge, authorities said Monday.
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https://twitter.com/jasonrmcintyre/status/1329115322398302208
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https://twitter.com/jasonrmcintyre/status/1329115322398302208
First class organization.
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Noice.
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They’re hiring De Guglielmo
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So if Judge had won the fight, would Columbo still have a job? Was the fight over how Andrew Thomas is just bad at football?
These are the real questions.
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#circus
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They’re hiring De Guglielmo
The same shitty coach that ran Denzel Good out of Indianapolis because he wouldn't stop giving him a hard time for missing a couple weeks after his brother was murdered.
Sounds like someone Judge wants on his staff.
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https://twitter.com/jasonrmcintyre/status/1329115322398302208
Apparently not true.
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The same shitty coach that ran Denzel Good out of Indianapolis because he wouldn't stop giving him a hard time for missing a couple weeks after his brother was murdered.
Sounds like someone Judge wants on his staff.
He was also highly despised by everyone in the building during his one (1) year with the Jets
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Apparently not true.
Shame on anyone that got fooled by that subpar Barry McCockiner level tweet
They should take that loser’s checkmark
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Colombo
The guy is 6’8” 315 lbs
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Colombo
The guy is 6’8” 315 lbs
pretty sure he’s dropped a few pounds since his playing days.
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According to Garofalo, Judge has been involved with coaching the OL the last couple of weeks which has been why they've improved. They told Colombo they were bringing DeGuglielmo to help him and he wasn't receptive to the idea, which is why they fired him.
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excrement I was going to suggest the Jets hire this guy to knock out Gase, oh well.
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excrement I was going to suggest the Jets hire this guy to knock out Gase, oh well.
He probably still could. Seems like he’d make an effective hired goon.
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excrement I was going to suggest the Jets hire this guy to knock out Gase, oh well.
The hockey influence showing through.
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Shame on anyone that got fooled by that subpar Barry McCockiner level tweet
They should take that loser’s checkmark
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201118/05f8ad37c41575a1830309dd43b6c362.jpg)
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He probably still could. Seems like he’d make an effective hired goon.
Hey lets hope they go for it.
The hockey influence showing through.
Maybe the Jets can hire Joey Kocur.
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According to Garofalo, Judge has been involved with coaching the OL the last couple of weeks which has been why they've improved. They told Colombo they were bringing DeGuglielmo to help him and he wasn't receptive to the idea, which is why they fired him.
https://twitter.com/pff_giants/status/1333438324091088899?s=10
Supposedly this is after Judge told Thomas to go back to his college technique and abandon what Colombo was having him do
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Still seems mediocre, no?
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The Giants got some elite play from their offensive tackles against Seattle.
Cam Fleming - 87.5 grade
Andrew Thomas - 87.1 grade
Thomas’ 87.1 is the highest single game grade among the first round OT picks this season
PFF
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Gallman's fumble might be worse than the Pisarcik fumble.
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Gallman's fumble might be worse than the Pisarcik fumble.
How in the hell are the officials gonna sort that out?
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How in the hell are the officials gonna sort that out?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eq1jRWLXMAMXehP?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Browns just made the playoffs. Mayfield was my #1 choice that draft.
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"RB excrement out a ball, 1st down!"
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Browns just made the playoffs. Mayfield was my #1 choice that draft.
Jets now have the longest playoff drought in the NFL.
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Go Washington.
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Jets now have the longest playoff drought in the NFL.
Yuuuup
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This team can't hurt me anymore. Maximum sadness velocity has been reached.
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I feel like they have to review this.
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Giants fans can shut the freak up about the Eagles. You were 6-10, you don't belong in the playoffs.
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
The #Giants signed center Jonotthan Harrison to a 1-year worth $2M, source said. A rare futures deal for over the minimum.
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1371906115953393664?s=19
That'll be good for 5 sacks this year.
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Giants signed DL Leonard Williams to a three-year, $63 million contract.
The deal includes $45 million guaranteed. It solves a major cap headache for the Giants, as Williams had been counting $19.4 million against 2021's declining number. That number could have jumped even more had Williams won his positional grievance, arguing he should be considered a defensive end instead of defensive tackle. Coming off a career high 11.5-sack campaign, the No. 6 overall pick of the 2015 Draft has indeed come on as one of the league's best lineman at the age of 27 (in June). GM Dave Gettleman has gotten himself into roster-building trouble with Williams at times, but he's a legit blue-chip player.
I'm so glad we didn't pay $45MM guaranteed for this "blue chip" player
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I'm still mad that we drafted him.
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Dalete
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https://twitter.com/AndrewSiciliano/status/1384548029240287234?s=19
Da class.
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https://twitter.com/AndrewSiciliano/status/1384548029240287234?s=19
Da class.
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Da classy awgunizashun
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-20/n-y-giants-had-violent-culture-off-the-field-lawsuit-claims
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https://twitter.com/JordanRaanan/status/1420766773931122688?s=19
Man the Giants get hit with shitloads of bad injuries every year. Jets fans would have the pitchforks out if the Jets had as many issues as them.
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https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1422580560459874310?s=19
https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1422587251117146123?s=19
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https://twitter.com/WesSteinberg/status/1422565067913060354
LOL what the freak is going on over there.
EDIT: Ah damnitt. A very well done troll account.
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https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1422580560459874310?s=19
https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1422587251117146123?s=19
Fun!
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https://twitter.com/WesSteinberg/status/1422565067913060354
LOL what the freak is going on over there.
EDIT: Ah damnitt. A very well done troll account.
It does sound like the sort of thing Giants fans would be proud of.
"This one backup RB fumbled during red zone practice so Judge shot his mother in the head, this team is gonna be so disciplined."
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https://twitter.com/nydailynews/status/1423645812605730828?s=21
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https://twitter.com/nydailynews/status/1423645812605730828?s=21
Excerpt from Judge's most recent team speech:
Men are born for games. Nothing else. Every child knows that play is nobler than work. He knows too that the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the skill and strength of the opponents and the humiliation of defeat and the pride of victory are in themselves sufficient stake because they inhere in the worth of the principals and define them. But the trial of chance or trial of worth all games aspire to the condition of war for here that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all. War is the ultimate game because war is at last a forcing of the unity of existence. War is god.
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Lol
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Daniel Jones is the ultimate practitioner of the ultimate game
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..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210806/e8943f689dd26f3dc51a5be81555f307.gif)
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"There is no Eli and we are his prophets."
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That man who sets himself the task of singling out the football of order from the scrimmage will by the decision alone have taken charge of the practice and it is only by such taking charge that he will effect a way to dictate the terms of his own gridiron.
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https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1427747134091186180?s=19
freaking classy!
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That man who sets himself the task of singling out the football of order from the scrimmage will by the decision alone have taken charge of the practice and it is only by such taking charge that he will effect a way to dictate the terms of his own gridiron.
This made my brain hurt.
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https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1427747134091186180?s=19
freaking classy!
Mara really misses the days when they would just spear each other in the head instead of saying something rude.
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Lol OL
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Lol OL
I haven't watched any of their preseason other than highlights against us, but apparently Andrew Thomas is absolutely shitting the bed.
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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1432391813848084481
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Retiring Strahan's number.
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Retiring Strahan's number.
they should hang his jersey in the space between his teeth.
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https://twitter.com/playoffelisha/status/1437188938662359047?s=19
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The sky is falling for giants twitter....it's hilarious
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The Giants have started 0-2 in 7 of the last 8 seasons.
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lmao
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lmao
Seriously, just one less penalty.
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Giants twitter is hilarious this morning...
Mike Breen Bangs
@MikeBreenBangs
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7h
We didn't even make it to the 2nd Sunday, and the season is over already
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Giants twitter is hilarious this morning...
They sound like us last year, but it's worse because they were actually built to compete this year.
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They sound like us last year, but it's worse because they were actually built to compete this year.
I love their cursing of Justin Herbert for going back to Oregon causing them to be stuck with Daniel Jones.
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I love their cursing of Justin Herbert for going back to Oregon causing them to be stuck with Daniel Jones.
Man, that sounds familiar but I just can't put my Peyton on where I Manning that before.
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I love their cursing of Justin Herbert for going back to Oregon causing them to be stuck with Daniel Jones.
Yeah Danny dimes is what's holding back their elite OL (nate solder signing looking better and better every day...)
https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2021/09/16/new-york-giants-washington-football-team-recap-twitter-reaction/
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Slayton and Shepard both out for Sunday. They might actually be in an even worse place than us.
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Slayton and Shepard both out for Sunday. They might actually be in an even worse place than us.
The Giants are in a make or break year for their GM, HC, and QB. Their 0-3 is worse than ours.
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Excerpt from Judge's most recent team speech:
Cool he repped Cormac McCarthy
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The Giants are in a make or break year for their GM, HC, and QB. Their 0-3 is worse than ours.
Jones actually looks decent this year, and next year's QB class isn't great, so they may stick with him by default.
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Thank you Giants for overshadowing our failure
https://twitter.com/nypostsports/status/1447413677196550153?t=OY0woyUxHOvvRvFTUFoSDw&s=19
https://twitter.com/BackPageGuyNYDN/status/1447380075842883584?t=THYdhDEB3PCfVOwEFJ_1nw&s=19
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Starting to think that Kadarius Toney might be a bit of a queynte.
https://twitter.com/IHaveFourBalls/status/1447331976965500928
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The Giants had the WFT beaten until a fluke penalty/2nd chance FG by Wash, barely lost to a Calvin Ridley-inclusive Atlanta Falcons by 3, beat the (Packer-defeating) Saints in New Orleans and were competitively hanging with Dallas at Dallas while missing two WRs until their starting RB/QB/WR Saquon Barkley/Daniel Jones/Kenny Golladay were lost through injury. When both teams are healthy, aren't they the slightly better team? JE: Toney's a head case - yet at the same time when pressed into service he showed something/anything fwiw. Guy has skills.
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https://twitter.com/terroristcole/status/1447932848128892936?s=21
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https://twitter.com/br_betting/status/1449820933376647172?s=21
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/r02gs3/despite_being_36_the_giants_are_having_their_best
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New York Giants
@Giants
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4m
Jason Garrett has been relieved of his duties as offensive coordinator.
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New York Giants
@Giants
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4m
Jason Garrett has been relieved of his duties as offensive coordinator.
I relieved myself just now.
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I dont watch a lot of giants football. Is he really the problem or is this a last ditch effort for the gym teacher to save his job?
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The giants are fucked.
Next year they will be 10mm over the cap and these are their top 10 most expensive contracts
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/cap/2022/
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I dont watch a lot of giants football. Is he really the problem or is this a last ditch effort for the gym teacher to save his job?
I think the latter.
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I dont watch a lot of giants football. Is he really the problem or is this a last ditch effort for the gym teacher to save his job?
It's never good when you fail at the coordinator level right after failing at the HC level.
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The giants are fucked.
Next year they will be 10mm over the cap and these are their top 10 most expensive contracts
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/cap/2022/
Leonard Williams has a $27M cap hit... Good lord...
Looking down the list, they are Megafucked...
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Leonard Williams has a $27M cap hit... Good lord...
That is a lot of money, but hasn't he at least been pretty good for them?
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Only 1 person needs to be fired there.
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The giants are fucked.
Next year they will be 10mm over the cap and these are their top 10 most expensive contracts
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/cap/2022/
Leonard Williams cap hit is $27 million next year? Oh sweet Jesus
Say what you want about Douglas, but he’s clearly the best GM in NY. Gettleman is a tire fire
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Only 1 person needs to be fired there.
And his name... is John Cena
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gettleman is a freaking menace. has been making suspect/dumbass moves since day 1 yet speaks down on everybody/everything like he's the smartest guy in the room
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gettleman is a freaking menace. has been making suspect/dumbass moves since day 1 yet speaks down on everybody/everything like he's the smartest guy in the room
I hope he stays there forever.
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gettleman is a freaking menace. has been making suspect/dumbass moves since day 1 yet speaks down on everybody/everything like he's the smartest guy in the room
He's the Donald Trump of NFL GMs, whose arrogance is only exceeded by his incompetence.
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Sure sounds like Gettleman is getting fired at the end of the year. Dammit.
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Sure sounds like Gettleman is getting fired at the end of the year. Dammit.
No
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https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1465828299435823113?t=E506v4itcdPgn9DFWf4FNA&s=19
If Glennon ever strained his neck, there would be an earthquake. This sucks, need the Giants to win for tank.
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https://twitter.com/lt4kicks/status/1469781036557119495?t=krVJlrpoGPV51bjaDv1V-Q&s=19
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Can't be mad about this.
https://sny.tv/articles/sources-giants-joe-judge-job-appears-to-be-safe
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Can't be mad about this.
https://sny.tv/articles/sources-giants-joe-judge-job-appears-to-be-safe
Yea that first paragraph wasn't a shot at the Johnsons.
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https://twitter.com/NewsdaySports/status/1472001394190213131?t=PfGUn2wEGbKpsOAlrzRi3w&s=19
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So classy
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In case anyone else didn't get to the details before the pay wall popped: he failed to report a change of address to authorities IAW his guilty plea for solicitation of prostitution.
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Can't argue with the classiness of a move like this.
https://twitter.com/TheGiantsWire/status/1471870881215430662
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Thought it sounded a bit too good to be true.
https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1472614079869108224
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I think they bring Berrios back and Mims is as well as a five. I think Crowders is a gonner so bring in another WR to share the top 3 role with Davis and Moore and lets get cooking
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I think they bring Berrios back and Mims is as well as a five. I think Crowders is a gonner so bring in another WR to share the top 3 role with Davis and Moore and lets get cooking
Wrong thread, bud.
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MikeGlennonblowsMikeGlennonblowsMikeGlennonblows
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Daniel Jones out for the year. Classy tank is a full go.
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https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1475062216080642052?s=21
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Good, more mediocre.
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Good, more mediocre.
Also hiring a GM will be a bit more challenging if he's told he has to work with Judge and Jones. I feel like we've made this mistake before.
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Also hiring a GM will be a bit more challenging if he's told he has to work with Judge and Jones. I feel like we've made this mistake before.
Everyone says Gettleman is gone, but I think it's 50/50.
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Everyone says Gettleman is gone, but I think it's 50/50.
I thought firing a GM and not the coach was something only classless dumpster fires do.
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I thought firing a GM and not the coach was something only classless dumpster fires do.
What's that expression about shoes and feet?
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Jake, from State Fromm
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Just saw Jake Fromm was 6-17 for 25 yards and an Int. That's almost impossibly bad.
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Just saw Jake Fromm was 6-17 for 25 yards and an Int. That's almost impossibly bad.
nate peterson bad
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https://twitter.com/stevev_pfn/status/1475102435697963016?s=21
https://twitter.com/stevev_pfn/status/1475677042570051588?s=21
https://twitter.com/stevev_pfn/status/1475992589623083014?s=21
https://twitter.com/giantspathanlon/status/1475998089672634368?s=21
Classy former giants scout and current giants head of PR having a classy spat on twitter
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https://twitter.com/stevev_pfn/status/1475102435697963016?s=21
https://twitter.com/stevev_pfn/status/1475677042570051588?s=21
https://twitter.com/stevev_pfn/status/1475992589623083014?s=21
https://twitter.com/giantspathanlon/status/1475998089672634368?s=21
Classy former giants scout and current giants head of PR having a classy spat on twitter
that franchise has turned into an excellent source of comedy. I love watching them suffer and making the same mistakes we did.
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From what my Giants buddy tells me....they're planning on retaining Joe Judge, and replacing Gettleman. lol
it's the Idzik scenario all over again. I love it!
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I had no idea Linval Joseph was still playing.
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https://twitter.com/stevev_pfn/status/1475102435697963016?s=21
https://twitter.com/stevev_pfn/status/1475677042570051588?s=21
https://twitter.com/stevev_pfn/status/1475992589623083014?s=21
https://twitter.com/giantspathanlon/status/1475998089672634368?s=21
Classy former giants scout and current giants head of PR having a classy spat on twitter
that guy feels so tough sending those tweets in response lmao, but does nothing to refute anything the tweets actually say about the personnel moves. all he does is attack the writer and says there are reasons why he was fired lmaoo. classic insecurity tactic.
and at the end of it all his profile says 'views my own', while very much writing everything under the notion that he is speaking on behalf of his employer. i hope i'm never a grown derriere man acting this petty, on fvcking twitter
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The Giants need a proven commodity who can turn things around. I bet Urban Meyer could do it
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https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1477757790835855363
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https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1477757790835855363
https://twitter.com/Jason_OTC/status/1477763043413082112
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Wait does mean he may be fibbing?
That doesn't even remotely sound believable. Jason from OTC has bad info
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Wait does mean he may be fibbing?
That doesn't even remotely sound believable. Jason from OTC has bad info
Not true, too classy.
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https://twitter.com/scottysimes83/status/1477758357285093381?s=21
Classy former PS TE
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https://twitter.com/elijhaap/status/1478015345071988738?s=10
Classy current FB roasting classy former PS OL
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We need to dedicate more time to enjoying this excrement franchise imploding. Sooner or later they will get someone decent in the front office and at least be mediocre again. At least we are showing life and improving.
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I hope they retain Judge for the 2022 schadenfreude.
He's Matt Patricia 2.0
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I hope they retain Judge for the 2022 schadenfreude.
He's Matt Patricia 2.0
Most importantly, retain Gettleman
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Most importantly, retain Gettleman
I think he's gone
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I think he's gone
Let me have my dreams.
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We need to dedicate more time to enjoying this excrement franchise imploding. Sooner or later they will get someone decent in the front office and at least be mediocre again. At least we are showing life and improving.
Not gonna happen anytime soon if they keep Judge and try to force him on a new GM hire
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We need to dedicate more time to enjoying this excrement classy franchise imploding.
Sooner or later they will get someone decent in the front office and at least be mediocre again. At least we are showing life and improving.
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Not gonna happen anytime soon if they keep Judge and try to force him on a new GM hire
With luck, they get their Idzik. Then after one year either fire everyone, or fire Judge and have their Idzik get to pick the next coach....
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https://twitter.com/mitchschwartz71/status/1477781150693216259?s=10
This dude is on a heater
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https://twitter.com/mitchschwartz71/status/1477781150693216259?s=10
This dude is on a heater
“They said to me: Sir, …”
Lmaooooooo
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So many weird quotes:
That’s the way it is. That’s what we sign up for, right? And it’s New York. It’s supposed to be a tough place to be. Certain cities in this country, they don’t even know if their team is playing today, all right?
"Papa, will the Chiefs play the football today?"
*sigh* "We won't know, son. We won't know."
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https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1478112348313473025?t=Yj9Xc-10psFiHgWxiRA6gA&s=19
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So many weird quotes:
"Papa, will the Chiefs play the football today?"
*sigh* "We won't know, son. We won't know."
There are starving children in Africa that don't even know the spread for MNF.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/wfan/comments/rl2k87/outing_joe_judges_bullshit
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https://twitter.com/nfloncbs/status/1478122954802270223?s=21
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https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/new-york-giants-jets-future-nfl
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Warren Sharp
@SharpFootball
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5h
the New York Giants:
not at any point...
not in any season...
FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS
did the Giants have a winning record
they are the ONLY team in the NFL to not have even one week where they sat above .500 in any of the last 5 years
#winning
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I just came in here to post that^
Sad thing is the same thing would be true about us if we didn't start 2018 1-0, IIRC.
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Gettleman is retiring. I was going to mock but I hadn't realised he was 70. He doesn't look it.
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https://twitter.com/PeteHaileyNBCS/status/1480253845297111043
The saddest play I have ever seen.
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https://twitter.com/PeteHaileyNBCS/status/1480253845297111043
The saddest play I have ever seen.
Oh no. That's truly, truly pathetic.
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It always was a rough choice to bring back the coach and fire the GM. That rarely works. But I don't see how you can retain a coach that actively gave up on his players, which is what that call suggests.
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It always was a rough choice to bring back the coach and fire the GM. That rarely works. But I don't see how you can retain a coach that actively gave up on his players, which is what that call suggests.
Judge's job isn't assured
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https://twitter.com/PeteHaileyNBCS/status/1480253845297111043
The saddest play I have ever seen.
wait for Joe Judge to give credit to WFT's defense in the post-game presser
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https://twitter.com/pleonardnydn/status/1480224156776124432?s=21
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https://twitter.com/pleonardnydn/status/1480224156776124432?s=21
Classholes
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I had no idea this was the case.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1480284390190157829
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https://twitter.com/giants/status/1417242860177420294?s=21
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Imagine firing your OC midseason, the offense getting worse, and still retaining your job as the HC.
Giants nation will be on suicide watch.
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This is so good
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https://twitter.com/giants/status/1417242860177420294?s=21
Hey, that's not fair. He might not have had any TDs this season but that's in part due to 20th overall pick Kadarius Toney and his 0 TDs taking his reps.
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https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1480637066585149441?s=20
the Giants requested permission to interview Pee Wee Herman for their GM job.
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excrement, they did the right thing. Next they'll let Danny Nickels walk and really make me sad.
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https://www.tmz.com/2022/01/12/joe-judge-drowns-giants-firing-sorrows-with-massive-order-of-beer-and-pizza/
Bahahha
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https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1481605822857760768?t=SDp3H325lVNfL39DW7RyyQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/Yankeelibrarian/status/1483294431797256192?t=DAjy8OI4oR4AZ_nvdpefiQ&s=19
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John Mara showing a level of honesty that has evaded the Johnsons.
https://theathletic.com/news/giants-say-theyll-build-around-daniel-jones-weve-done-everything-possible-to-screw-this-kid-up/XNSb24jRhbIK/
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1487205654745997321?t=u6fyhfHqWfWDtOPfh7Av8A&s=19
Dammit
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1487205654745997321?t=u6fyhfHqWfWDtOPfh7Av8A&s=19
Dammit
Why is this upsetting?
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This was inevitable. The Giants are going to rely on Daboll to turn Daniel Jones into a poor man's Josh Allen.
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I’d much rather Daboll go to NYG than MIA
And if he takes Dorsey with him, that’s bad news for Josh Allen
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Either he'll be successful and we'll be happy he didn't wind up with the Dolphins or he'll be a failure and we'll get to continue laughing at the Giants.
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Keeping this thread honest:
https://twitter.com/davismattek/status/1487073723874258948?s=21
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1487205654745997321?t=u6fyhfHqWfWDtOPfh7Av8A&s=19
Dammit
Daboll out of the Bills and into the NFC is excellent news.
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Daboll out of the Bills and into the NFC is excellent news.
Yes.
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The giants deserve zero success...so Daboll better suck dong.
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Giants expected to decline Danny Nickels' fifth year option.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33460685/sources-new-york-giants-expected-make-run-qb-mitchell-trubisky
lmao
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33460685/sources-new-york-giants-expected-make-run-qb-mitchell-trubisky
lmao
that'll be some QB competition at their TC hahaha
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I'd rather have Trubisky than Jones. I don't love Trubisky but I think he's boringly competent, which is a step up from Danny Fumbles.
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Honestly there aren't too many options and this isn't the year to move on so might as well try to see what the new coaching staff can get out of him and put him up against someone with starting experience.
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(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYF17-f9i9sAlq05foCk11jiW7zOLiZ-MBvw&usqp=CAU)
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1503857171276124165?t=U-6lH3StJiQgW5Gav3Beiw&s=19
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https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1508435016103174148?t=V3zK7KU4XEz2S9pbmZeigg&s=19
Lol
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https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1508435016103174148?t=V3zK7KU4XEz2S9pbmZeigg&s=19
Lol
An excellent example of nerds going too far and demonstrating their stupidity using their own metrics.
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An excellent example of nerds going too far and demonstrating their stupidity using their own metrics.
They're not necessarily wrong.
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Someone shits on the Giants, they have my support
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It's plausible that the Giants could have gotten a better return on investment if they used the cap space allocated for Barkley since 2018 on other positions. That's the crux of the argument, not that they literally should have not taken a player 2nd overall in 2018.
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They're not necessarily wrong.
Of course they're wrong. "Strictly speaking, even forfeiting the selection would have been a better alternative" just demonstrates how absolutely ludicrous their statistical analysis is. There is no sensible football world in which forfeiting the #2 pick is a better idea than drafting a highly talented player regardless of position, and the only way this statement makes sense is if it was followed by "thus demonstrating the absolute idiocy of our model, and we will henceforth be abandoning it in favour of sitting in front of a TV on Sundays with a bowl of wings and a six pack rather than a calculator".
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It's plausible that the Giants could have gotten a better return on investment if they used the cap space allocated for Barkley since 2018 on other positions. That's the crux of the argument, not that they literally should have not taken a player 2nd overall in 2018.
Then they should make that argument.
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Then they should make that argument.
They did...
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They did...
They said, and I quote once more for you, "Strictly speaking, even forfeiting the selection would have been a better alternative". That is an entirely different argument to "they could/should have selected a player who represented better value". Putting aside the fact that were it not for his injuries Barkley would almost certainly have been a significant net positive over the course of his contract and they wouldn't have been bleating about how clever their model is because people would have laughed at them, and also ignoring the fact that had they gone with the "value" pick it would probably have been Sam Darnold, I'd be keen to hear how they (and you) would justify how taking nobody would have been better than taking Barkley.
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It's plausible that the Giants could have gotten a better return on investment if they used the cap space allocated for Barkley since 2018 on other positions. That's the crux of the argument, not that they literally should have not taken a player 2nd overall in 2018.
This argument isn’t position specific though, it’s player specific. If Saquon never got hurt and continued playing like he did as a rookie this argument looks dumb as hell
Conversely you could say the Raiders would have been much better off forfeiting the #1 pick the year they took JaMarcus Russel, because he was trash. He’s a qb of course but his value added was absolutely negative. If they hadn’t picked at all they would have been infinitely better off. Same is true for us with Gholston. But if we had ended up with Chris Long instead we would have been just fine.
In summary their argument is idiotic as it pertains to it being about positions. It’s really a testament to “not freaking up the pick” when you are drafting that high. Pick the wrong guy and you are fucked, pick the right guy and nobody cares about position
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The Giants have the most expensive WR group in the league for 2022, and those receivers combined for the fewest tds in the league last year. The least by a group since 2017
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Kadarius Toney is a no show at voluntary pre-draft minicamp. Way to impress the new boss.
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Voluntary is the key word.
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Voluntary is the key word.
Yes. But given how poor his first season was, you would think that he would be desperate to get in front of his new boss as early as possible and impress him with his workrate and eagerness to do everything possible to ensure he can help the team.
He might not have done anything wrong, but I don't think it's at all smart.
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I think pre draft workouts are a little too early to start these conversations, regardless of team/player.
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I think pre draft workouts are a little too early to start these conversations, regardless of team/player.
For an unproven second year player going into a new system? Nah. Go get the playbook at least.
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https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1517620824584466432?t=oeRLifWKFGwYy8t66df0Kg&s=19
Might not be true.
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Please be true
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Literally know nothing about the dude. But would he make sense for us from a personnel standpoint?
Would our first 2nd round pick be a fair price if so?
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We got the better player in Moore a year ago, and Toney has already proven to be a colossal DBag.
If I could get him for free I’m not sure I’d take him. If a team with no offensive talent to speak of and is rebuilding is trying to trade last years first round pick it should put up massive red flags that should have everyone looking to get him on the cheap if they even want the guy
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Agreed, and we wouldn't even be a change of scenery in the most literal sense. Hard pass.
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Offer a 5th
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It sounds like cap strapped competitive teams will be the favorite for him anyhow.
Namely the Chiefs and Packers
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What it might do is get one of those teams out of the Deebo race
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https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1526935289993867264?s=20&t=o8VgJI2lu2C6SoylR9w51g
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https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1556664884544299009
https://twitter.com/DDuggan21/status/1556669556743184385
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https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1556664884544299009
https://twitter.com/DDuggan21/status/1556669556743184385
My buddy (Giants diehard) is already clamouring for Tyrod to start lol.
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My buddy (Giants diehard) is already clamouring for Tyrod to start lol.
If the answer is Tyrod, it's a stupid question.
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The Giants gave $72M to Kenny Golladay, who is basically Trumaine Johnson on offense.
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The Giants gave $72M to Kenny Golladay, who is basically Trumaine Johnson on offense.
Wasn’t $72 million exactly what we gave Johnson?
Clearly no player should ever be paid $72 million on their deal
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I don't really know where to put this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/titletalktcl/status/1561544557904494594?s=21&t=n5PTU_4BeAk_YiXr1SQIDA
Also, Thibodeaux has an MCL strain. No serious injury.
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Low cut block on Thibs by Thaddeus Moss, son of Randy Moss
https://twitter.com/TalkinGiants/status/1561504252614287361
https://twitter.com/richeisen/status/1561532951082348546
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Sterling Shepard tore his ACL in a non contact injury last night. Metlife turf claims another victim.
They have to do something about it.
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I saw it, now you have to.
https://twitter.com/nfl_memes/status/1579226339764498432?s=61&t=1nnH5z4A1vJURz9ftlZyww (https://twitter.com/nfl_memes/status/1579226339764498432?s=61&t=1nnH5z4A1vJURz9ftlZyww)
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Signed Cager to their PS
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Signed Cager to their PS
They always love the guys we cut.
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Signed WR Isaiah Hogers off waivers from Buffalo
https://twitter.com/agetzenberg/status/1587905999389728777
https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1587912431895986177?cxt=HHwWgoCy2bL8soksAAAA
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https://instagram.com/pete_eli10
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Hearing giants playoff soundbites on the FAN has me annoyed
How did they make it back to the playoffs before us
I was fine when we were both pathetic cellar dwellers for 10 years straight
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Hearing giants playoff soundbites on the FAN has me annoyed
How did they make it back to the playoffs before us
I was fine when we were both pathetic cellar dwellers for 10 years straight
How (in a tougher division and with less overall roster talent than the jets)? Two words: Brian Daboll
Two other things: watching this with the sound on and with the sound off:
- with the sound on: the guy comes off as a self-righteous, obnoxious douchebag (stemming from his days at Oregon)
- with the sound off: this guy IS a scumbag and a creep
https://twitter.com/SNYGiants/status/1610721230025330688
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Is it that hard to just say "I didn't realize he was injured, I wish him a speedy recovery"?
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Is it that hard to just say "I didn't realize he was injured, I wish him a speedy recovery"?
apparently
all luv
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Oh god WTF no!?!?
https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/entertainment/23560856/winds-of-winter-release-date-george-r-r-martin-new-york-giants-football (https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/entertainment/23560856/winds-of-winter-release-date-george-r-r-martin-new-york-giants-football)
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https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1620051956768047104?s=20&t=_oAbqhaKbG-itboTYPIB9A
I'm so glad we passed on this imbecile.
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https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1620051956768047104?s=20&t=_oAbqhaKbG-itboTYPIB9A
I'm so glad we passed on this imbecile.
Yep, Jamal Adams 2.0, except less talented.
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Pay the man!
https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1627740844324167681?s=19
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Pay the man!
https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1627740844324167681?s=19
I think he is their franchise QB, he's played pretty well. I think he knows he isn't getting that, but you have to start above what you want to get what you want. No one knows if this is true anyway.
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I think he is their franchise QB, he's played pretty well. I think he knows he isn't getting that, but you have to start above what you want to get what you want. No one knows if this is true anyway.
To be clear I just think it would be really funny if the Giants gave him $45M/yr. I don't care about what he's actually worth.
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To be clear I just think it would be really funny if the Giants gave him $45M/yr. I don't care about what he's actually worth.
freak it, 55!
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230225/bffcc1a6f8a915d829841ade95bd2936.jpg)
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Releasing Kenny Golladay. Spectacular piece of business.
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Jones gets a 4 yr / $160M deal
Saquon gets the tag
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lmao
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Jones gets a 4 yr / $160M deal
Saquon gets the tag
Oh man, i hope Danny Dimes regresses next year.
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trading for Raiders TE Darren Waller
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Raiders right now feel a bit like Rex in Buffalo, dismantling an already decent roster to make it fit the way he wants to play instead of getting the best out of the talent that's already there.
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Owners can't stop dropping weird quotes
https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1641416744110792704?s=20
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https://twitter.com/KimJonesSports/status/1646158075328442374
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And now Lawrence as well:
https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1646295357456801797
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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6m
The #Giants have agreed to terms with #Rams FA DT A’Shawn Robinson, continuing to beef up their defensive front right before the Draft, sources tell me and @MikeGarafolo. He gets a 1-year deal worth up to $8M max value with the opportunity to find a home with NYG.
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Warren Sharp
@SharpFootball
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2h
OFFICIAL: the Giants are the FIRST TEAM be forced to play on the road 7 times in the first 10 weeks of the season since the NFL reinstated bye weeks in 1990
the NFL has never forced a team to play on the road in 7 of the first 10 weeks OR in 7 of their first 10 games...until now
good night, sweet prince.
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7 in the first 11* weeks
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7 in the first 11* weeks
I think you mean 8. That Jets game will feel like a road game…
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Just when the Giants were attempting start looking something close to not absolute trash
Can't get rid of the circus
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2023/07/19/saquon-barkley-mulls-sitting-out-season-in-f-k-you-to-giants/amp/
https://www.tiktok.com/@realjordanschultz/video/7257630488574184746
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He should take a discount to win a Super Bowl with his boyhood team, just to stick it to the Giants.
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He should take a discount to win a Super Bowl with his boyhood team, just to stick it to the Giants.
i am 100% with you here. this is for next year
bring saquon home
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Our track record with rbs who sit for a season is not great.
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Our track record with rbs who sit for a season is not great.
Did you factor in the "Gase Quotient" in your little thought formula on this?
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Did you factor in the "Gase Quotient" in your little thought formula on this?
Given that he went on to play in one of the better offenses in the NFL after he left the Jets, I don't think it was a heavy contributor.
Put another way: the league history of running backs holding out for a full season is not great.
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Did you factor in the "Gase Quotient" in your little thought formula on this?
Mike Maccagnan didn't ever know what the freak he was doing
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Mike Maccagnan didn't ever know what the freak he was doing
I didn't need Bell to figure that one out...the Hackenberg pick was all I needed
Bro knew his coffee doe
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Given that he went on to play in one of the better offenses in the NFL after he left the Jets, I don't think it was a heavy contributor.
Put another way: the league history of running backs holding out for a full season is not great.
He was never going to amount to anything on the Chiefs roster...he was too far down depth chart.
I know he was washed, I'm just pointing out that he was holding a clipboard in that offense...the 5 touches he got per game weren't going to move the needle.
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
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28m
Left tackle Andrew Thomas and the Giants reached agreement on a 5-year, $117.5 million extension that includes an offensive-line record $67M fully guaranteed at signing, tying him to New York through the 2029 season.
@JohnThornton of @RocNationSports confirmed the deal to ESPN.
nice turnaround for a guy who played like dogshit in his rookie season.
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nice turnaround for a guy who played like dogshit in his rookie season.
coaching matters
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coaching matters
preaching to the choir
#FireGase #FireBowles #FireRex #FireMLF
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nice turnaround for a guy who played like dogshit in his rookie season.
Assuming he stays healthy… AVT bout to get paiddddddddd next year (you know for a guard)
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i was so happy when we ended up with becton and not with thomas or wirfs
i aint excrement
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i was so happy when we ended up with becton and not with thomas or wirfs
i aint excrement
Literally no one on this board is based on that metric.
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Literally no one on this board is based on that metric.
Speak for yourself, I wanted Thomas. Seem to recall tackle was a topic of some debate that draft.
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Speak for yourself, I wanted Thomas. Seem to recall tackle was a topic of some debate that draft.
I don't recall you being upset about getting Becton when it happened.
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I don't recall you being upset about getting Becton when it happened.
I don't recall my reaction at all. I mainly remember Heismanberg championing Becton.
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Remember when we had the 11th overall pick and Andrew Thomas went 4th overall?
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Remember when we had the 11th overall pick and Andrew Thomas went 4th overall?
No. I'm just saying who I wanted in that draft. I have no recollection of how it fell.
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Remember when our GODKING GM passed up an All-Pro tackle (Wirfs) to take Becton?
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Remember when our GODKING GM passed up an All-Pro tackle (Wirfs) to take Becton?
No...but i DO remember when he turned Jamal Adams into Garrett Wilson and AVT.
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https://nypost.com/2023/08/06/ex-giant-blake-martinez-accused-of-scamming-pokemon-card-collectors/
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https://twitter.com/BackPageGuyNYDN/status/1709053773136449859?t=87NRJH_6fD-kohqdRupYoQ&s=19
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we have to beat this team
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https://twitter.com/DarrylSlater/status/1709662335344808288
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https://twitter.com/DarrylSlater/status/1709662335344808288
I flip burgers better than Evan Neal pass blocks.
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https://twitter.com/DarrylSlater/status/1709662335344808288
Dude has been a terrible OL so far, and has been extremely immature to go with it. How humble is he? How likely is he to accept coaching and try to get better? Dude is on the fast track to Bust Town
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Led to this absurd rant.
https://twitter.com/TMKSESPN/status/1709676438935216186
Imagine if we took Neal over Sauce.
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Led to this absurd rant.
https://twitter.com/TMKSESPN/status/1709676438935216186
Imagine if we took Neal over Sauce.
i am happy lol, but was that ever actually a possibility? or just preference from some of our fanbase maybe? if i remember correctly the consensus 'feel' of the pick at 4 was between ekwonu, KT, or sauce going into the draft. i think as time drew closer to the draft, knowing the tendencies of both JD and saleh it became very clear the pick was going to be sauce if he was available (thank you houston lmfaoo)
anyhow, this kid is garbage. imagine playing like excrement and then doubling down on it like that, like it's doing anything to actually defend your horrible play? zach wilson has been the most criticized player in the league this year. compare their responses and reactions. the same media outlets that were blasting wilson are now praising him for the way he's handled all the criticism lol. that's occurring in the same city as neal, and he still wasn't astute enough to realize that that may be a good way of going about things?
huge alarm signals from a mental perspective as far as his career goes. i would not feel good if i was a giant fan lmfaooooo
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I wanted an edge rusher or an OL. We could draft pass rushers and OL until the end of time and I'd be happy.
But thank God we didn't last year
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https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1713762248269656248?t=VwMf51WVY0Co8R_guLWNTQ&s=19
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I was driving home as the 1pm games kicked off and the Giants radio broadcast guy said "The Giants aren't very good..." before leaving what felt like a very long pause before resuming his thought, making it sound like that was the end of the sentence. I was mildly amused.
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The Giants have improved the past 2 weeks, but it would have been hard to get worse.
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The Giants have improved the past 2 weeks, but it would have been hard to get worse.
Daniel Jones not playing has that effect on a team
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The Giants have improved the past 2 weeks, but it would have been hard to get worse.
They stink
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Shot
https://twitter.com/JustinPenik/status/1718706459523924427?t=p9izJzLSPsivChumK0rj8w&s=19
Chaser
https://twitter.com/JustinPenik/status/1718730412761973137?t=gy9YJa-6YL7Hww6YTbWV2Q&s=19
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Shot
https://twitter.com/JustinPenik/status/1718706459523924427?t=p9izJzLSPsivChumK0rj8w&s=19
Chaser
https://twitter.com/JustinPenik/status/1718730412761973137?t=gy9YJa-6YL7Hww6YTbWV2Q&s=19
(https://media.tenor.com/SCjRKTseUkUAAAAC/davechappelle-rub.gif)
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Shot
https://twitter.com/JustinPenik/status/1718706459523924427?t=p9izJzLSPsivChumK0rj8w&s=19
Chaser
https://twitter.com/JustinPenik/status/1718730412761973137?t=gy9YJa-6YL7Hww6YTbWV2Q&s=19
What exactly was he doing in that first one?
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What exactly was he doing in that first one?
Being a dork I guess.
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Giants trade Leonard Williams to Seattle for a 2024 2nd and 5th round pick.
Great trade for Giants...Seattle is nuts, esp when Williams is a FA next year
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Giants trade Leonard Williams to Seattle for a 2024 2nd and 5th round pick.
Great trade for Giants...Seattle is nuts, esp when Williams is a FA next year
The Giants are paying almost all of his salary this year, so that's probably why they got good picks.
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Giants trade Leonard Williams to Seattle for a 2024 2nd and 5th round pick.
Great trade for Giants...Seattle is nuts, esp when Williams is a FA next year
As we learned from the Adams deal… Seattle is insane. Giants got exceptional value for a guy with limited production caused by him
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Saquon is gonna lead the league in carries by the end of the year. Maybe even yards if he has to run it 35 times a game from here on out.
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Saquon is gonna lead the league in carries by the end of the year. Maybe even yards if he has to run it 35 times a game from here on out.
Saquon's knee is going to collapse in on itself like a dying star.
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They got obliterated today.
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Saquon's knee is going to collapse in on itself like a dying star.
we are definitely signing him in the offseason
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we are definitely signing him in the offseason
freak
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https://x.com/backaftathis/status/1723887051282465230?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8DunLUj/ (https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8DunLUj/)
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This was one of the fastest heel turns I've seen in a while.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39146247/pizzeria-cancels-tommy-devito-event-qb-appearance-fee
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This was one of the fastest heel turns I've seen in a while.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39146247/pizzeria-cancels-tommy-devito-event-qb-appearance-fee
This whole thing is bordering on stupid. I'd hate DeVito even more for playing into dumbass stereotypes if his family at least didn't seem cool/sincere. His agent is a douchebag.
I cannot believe I'm saying this, but Mike Florio had an accurate take on this whole thing;
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/tommy-devito-and-agent-land-in-pizzeria-kerfuffle
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I don't know that DeVito is a dipshit, but his agent certainly is.
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This was one of the fastest heel turns I've seen in a while.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39146247/pizzeria-cancels-tommy-devito-event-qb-appearance-fee
Everything about that agent makes sense.
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This whole thing is bordering on stupid. I'd hate DeVito even more for playing into dumbass stereotypes if his family at least didn't seem cool/sincere. His agent is a douchebag.
I cannot believe I'm saying this, but Mike Florio had an accurate take on this whole thing;
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/tommy-devito-and-agent-land-in-pizzeria-kerfuffle
Tommy seems to agree with you both.
https://twitter.com/WesSteinberg/status/1736863458522730649
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I'd bet a few dollars he's never seen The Sopranos. He was in elementary school when it ended.
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I'd bet a few dollars he's never seen The Sopranos. He was in elementary school when it ended.
Sopranos is now a part of the history curriculum in Tristate HS
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Giants lead the league in 3 & outs.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39276348/new-york-giants-wink-martindale-cursed-brian-daboll-firings
circus
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Apparently Brian Daboll needed to hire a Dabollganger because their new offensive line coach could pass as a body double.
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1766119717352194071 (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1766119717352194071)
lol