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Other Stuff => The Pats-Hater Parking Lot => Topic started by: Ignatius J Reilly on February 02, 2014, 10:23:46 AM
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This is a place for people who drive cars made by Detroit for real Americans. Owners of foreign cars can GTFO, especially Prius drivers. Hate those guys.
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Does Toledo count?
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My Prius has dual citizenship
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I've had American cars ad long as I can remember.
That being said , the only one that was good got totaled in an accident.
Aside from said totaled car, I have not had a good experience with them lol
I look forward to the day I can afford to decide what I drive
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This is my third Jeep and they have all been fantastic vehicles. The panel fit might not be perfect every time and the plastics can be a bit low rent, but mechanically they are all but indestructible.
When I lived in the UK I had all manner of vehicles, including a couple of BMWs, an Audi, a Volvo, a Saab, a TVR, and just before I left a Mercedes SL. The Volvo was an amazingly comfortable car, the BMWs were as efficient and capable as their teutonic reputation suggests and the SL was headturningly cool, but I'm not sure I'd swap any of them for the Wrangler. American cars shouldn't be compared to European or Asian vehicles, at its best the American car industry does things that no-one else in the world does.
"The Jeep is America's only true sports car" - Enzo Ferrari
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jap cars all day errday
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jap cars all day errday
Buying Japanese cars because they're reliable (there's no other good reason to buy a Japanese car unless you're dropping a hundred grand on a GT-R) is like buying jeans with an elastic waistband because they're practical.
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I've had American cars ad long as I can remember.
That being said , the only one that was good got totaled in an accident.
Aside from said totaled car, I have not had a good experience with them lol
I look forward to the day I can afford to decide what I drive
The times are changing, my friend. America is back.
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Buying Japanese cars because they're reliable (there's no other good reason to buy a Japanese car unless you're dropping a hundred grand on a GT-R) is like buying jeans with an elastic waistband because they're practical.
I bought the Prius because I needed a family car (two seats would no longer cut it), it was hitting a huge discount, and I live in LA. We have excrement traffic and 50 mpg sounded great to me. Add in the electronic features which were cool at the time, and it was a good purchase. It just wasn't a good drive. Having driven Euro cars, I'm amazed by how great the new Ford experience is. My new FFTH is silent. I drove 70 miles yesterday, mostly freeway, and had no road noise whatsoever.
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RIP
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I bought the Prius because I needed a family car (two seats would no longer cut it), it was hitting a huge discount, and I live in LA. We have excrement traffic and 50 mpg sounded great to me. Add in the electronic features which were cool at the time, and it was a good purchase. It just wasn't a good drive. Having driven Euro cars, I'm amazed by how great the new Ford experience is. My new FFTH is silent. I drove 70 miles yesterday, mostly freeway, and had no road noise whatsoever.
I still love my Prius because I truly don't care about driving experience other than safety. Getting me from A to B as cheaply as possible is all I care about. Within reason (walking technically is the cheapest but I work 20 miles away). I'd drive pink car with glitter on it if it got better gas mileage than what i currently have. I understand the horsepower/appearance thing, but it isn't me. Whenever a Tesla comes down in price in a few years I'll be interested in that.
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The times are changing, my friend. America is back.
Well ironically the car I loved that I was referring to was a Buick Park Avenue.
The only car I've ever had that I didn't have any complaints about.
I prolly would get a Buick or Caddy if I had the money.
Most other American companies I'm not fond of.
I've driven a few Fords and they're horribly engineered. Especially when you need to start removing door panels for electric/ window/ audio work.
They use literally just about any random measurements you can think of inside the guts of the vehicle.
Remove numerous standard measurement bolts to open up a panel needing metric tools. Remove that only to need those arbitrary measurements that nobody ever uses.
But 04 is the newest model anything I've ever owned. I know the collapse actually helped the industry cause they stopped trying to follow Asian/euro auto trends and finally got back to making solid vehicles.
Either way my Explorer just took a excrement on me and I font even have the money go take it in right now
I'm hoping its simple otherwise I'm fucked.
Infiniti Q45 is still one of my favorite vehicles of all time.
Wish they still made them.
I know, its Nissan. But still they're luxury vehicles with power that handle lime a dream. Its like driving a turbo cloud
I do like Dodges movement to streamline all the muscle cars of yesteryear.
Haven't driven any though to know if the ride matches the look.
What'd you end up getting? I saw on Feb u were auto dhopping
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Well ironically the car I loved that I was referring to was a Buick Park Avenue.
The only car I've ever had that I didn't have any complaints about.
I prolly would get a Buick or Caddy if I had the money.
Most other American companies I'm not fond of.
I've driven a few Fords and they're horribly engineered. Especially when you need to start removing door panels for electric/ window/ audio work.
They use literally just about any random measurements you can think of inside the guts of the vehicle.
Remove numerous standard measurement bolts to open up a panel needing metric tools. Remove that only to need those arbitrary measurements that nobody ever uses.
But 04 is the newest model anything I've ever owned. I know the collapse actually helped the industry cause they stopped trying to follow Asian/euro auto trends and finally got back to making solid vehicles.
Either way my Explorer just took a excrement on me and I font even have the money go take it in right now
I'm hoping its simple otherwise I'm fucked.
Infiniti Q45 is still one of my favorite vehicles of all time.
Wish they still made them.
I know, its Nissan. But still they're luxury vehicles with power that handle lime a dream. Its like driving a turbo cloud
I do like Dodges movement to streamline all the muscle cars of yesteryear.
Haven't driven any though to know if the ride matches the look.
What'd you end up getting? I saw on Feb u were auto dhopping
I wouldn't have touched an American car for about 10 years there. It's like night and day now. I got a Ford Fusion Titanium Hybrid. It's a legit luxury sedan. So far, it's a better drive than almost anything I've ever driven, and that includes Euros. My Prius MPG fell off, so I'm getting the same mileage. Oh, and it parallel parks itself. That's huge for LA. I can parallel park with the best of them, but getting to take my hands off the wheel and just let the car do the work? Amazing.
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I'm gonna be rockin a ford soon. Fiesta ST, fun little hot hatch for the back roads. Nice gas mileage for the long drives. Ford has been good for a few years now.
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Does this qualify?
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Does this qualify?
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Absolutely. And I'm assuming you guys will have a dedicated car for the kid? AKA not that one?
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Im all for buying american, but who the hell would want to buy anything made from Detriot?
Its one of the biggest excrement holes in this country.
Give me a car from Ohio or something.
Speaking of cars though, was pretty suprised to see a Masareti commercial during the superbowl.
Would have bet it was a Chrysler commercial
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Absolutely. And I'm assuming you guys will have a dedicated car for the kid? AKA not that one?
Yep, we have a car base installed in both the Mustang and our Explorer (yes, more american)
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Nothing beats German engineering for a good drive. Nothing beats cars from Japan for reliability and longevity.
Facts are facts.
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Nothing beats German engineering for a good drive. Nothing beats cars from Japan for reliability and longevity.
Facts are facts.
My Toyota was a piece of excrement. My Ford is awesome.
Facts are facts.
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I had a ford that had less problems than my Jap car.
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Nothing beats German engineering for a good drive. Nothing beats cars from Japan for reliability and longevity.
Facts are facts.
My Audi was incredibly dangerous to drive, as attempting to do so immediately put me to sleep due to it being such a monumentally dull car. Conversely my TVR (handbuilt in Britain with an American engine) was far, far more fun to drive than any of the German cars I owned.
Facts are facts.
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I farted.
Facts are facts.
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I'm gonna be rockin a ford soon. Fiesta ST, fun little hot hatch for the back roads. Nice gas mileage for the long drives. Ford has been good for a few years now.
Yea freak Ford.
Lol
They waited till the collapse to make good cars.
But glad you all get go jump onboard their revival
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I uh, drive a beat up 2001 Camry. It costs me almost no money and gets me places without breaking. And I don't like knowing more about cars because it reinforces my awareness of how much money I don't have.
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Yea freak Ford.
Lol
They waited till the collapse to make good cars.
But glad you all get go jump onboard their revival
Why would I care how shitty they were back then anymore? They got restructured and now make good stuff. A bunch of shitty cars I never owned mean nothing to me.
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Im all for buying american, but who the hell would want to buy anything made from Detriot?
Its one of the biggest excrement holes in this country.
A good friend moved to Michigan to be a research/dev engineer for Toyota. Less than three years out of undergrad and he's looking to buy a nice four bedroom 'starter' house with no mortgage. But he only gets to see the ocean when he's flying out to either coast with his copious vacation time. Hah.
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I'm in the market for a new car but I'm not sure what I want yet
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Drove a friend home after the Super Bowl yesterday. He currently drives a 328i. Apparently he emailed my dealer today to schedule a time to go talk Fusion lol
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I'm in the market for a new car but I'm not sure what I want yet
Ford
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Why would I care how shitty they were back then anymore? They got restructured and now make good stuff. A bunch of shitty cars I never owned mean nothing to me.
Did you feel the breeze as my comment flew over your head
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Did you feel the breeze as my comment flew over your head
Lol.
I used to ride in Fords growing up. Hated them, of course I was always just the passenger. They never did anything for me. I never drove one until my friend urged me to get behind the wheel of his GT, and the rest is history.
I have no complaints about Ford, anymore.
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My buddy's father is a salesman at a local Ford dealership. I took a test drive in the Fusion Titanium. Nice car but I'm not sure I want to spend 30-32k on one.
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I don't know anything about cars, and never really got into them. Product of being raised in Manhattan I guess.
I remember wanting to buy a Mitsubishi eclipse when I got my license, and then being called a bundle of sticks by all my friends for wanting one. Pretty much gave up after that.
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I don't know anything about cars, and never really got into them. Product of being raised in Manhattan I guess.
I remember wanting to buy a Mitsubishi eclipse when I got my license, and then being called a bundle of sticks by all my friends for wanting one. Pretty much gave up after that.
Your friends were right.
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Our current car is a 2006 Dodge Caravan with 130k+ miles on it. It's really been great for us but we're starting to consider it might be time to look at something new.
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My Audi was incredibly dangerous to drive, as attempting to do so immediately put me to sleep due to it being such a monumentally dull car. Conversely my TVR (handbuilt in Britain with an American engine) was far, far more fun to drive than any of the German cars I owned.
Facts are facts.
My Dad drove Celicas in the 80's until the odometer stopped working. Put 300K (or so) on them in shitty NE weather and never did anything but change the oil.
My wife's 2001 Accord has had nothing but standard maintenance since it was new and is still going strong. Thing has been between Vegas and LA 100 times and it's still a fine drive at 80mph.
I had over 200K on my old 325i before someone smashed into it and killed it. Still the best car I've ever owned. 20+ years old and it could do 90-100 comfortably on the highway, and take turns at speed even in Malibu Canyon.
Meanwhile I get the occasional less than 3 year old rental, always turns out to be American, and always seems to be hot garbage.
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The worst rental car I ever got was a Toyota Corolla. We drove off the lot with it, got maybe a mile down the street, then Enterprise called us back and upgraded us to a Buick LaCrosse for free (they found out we were getting married and figured we should get something better).
Besides that, since 2012 I've rented an Avenger, an Equinox, a Liberty, and an Altima. All were fine but none could touch the LaCrosse. It was like driving a cloud.
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My buddy's father is a salesman at a local Ford dealership. I took a test drive in the Fusion Titanium. Nice car but I'm not sure I want to spend 30-32k on one.
Why would you have to pay that much if your buddy's dad is a salesman? I paid under 33k for mine and it's a hybrid and loaded. I'd imagine if you know someone, you can swing an even better deal on the gas only one.
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Why would you have to pay that much if your buddy's dad is a salesman? I paid under 33k for mine and it's a hybrid and loaded. I'd imagine if you know someone, you can swing an even better deal on the gas only one.
You have a point. I was basing that off sticker price. When I went in it was mainly for a test drive and to see what they had available. I never really got into negotiations on a final number.
Is there an incentive on the hybrid?
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You have a point. I was basing that off sticker price. When I went in it was mainly for a test drive and to see what they had available. I never really got into negotiations on a final number.
Is there an incentive on the hybrid?
Yes. It's $1000 on the hybrid and $1500 on the non-hybrid. You can get $500 more on the fuel only model if you finance with Ford. In the end, I got mine for a bit under Factory Invoice plus the $1000 incentive. Your buddy's dad should at least be able to get you factory invoice plus incentive. I'm pretty sure all the Titaniums come with Moon Roof and Navigation. With just those added on, you'd be looking at about $28k with the deal above.
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You have a point. I was basing that off sticker price. When I went in it was mainly for a test drive and to see what they had available. I never really got into negotiations on a final number.
Is there an incentive on the hybrid?
Why would you have to pay that much if your buddy's dad is a salesman? I paid under 33k for mine and it's a hybrid and loaded. I'd imagine if you know someone, you can swing an even better deal on the gas only one.
Never pay what the sticker price is. For most cars you get away with invoice or less if you do your homework and are patient. Some dealerships won't bother to work with you, while others are more than willing.
In order from highest to lowest price:
Dealer Markup (If you buy a car at this price, you're a chump. AKA the MBGreen price)
MSRP (Slightly less of a chump, but a chump nonetheless)
Invoice (Perfectly acceptable. If you're $500 over invoice, it's kind of a win/win for the dealer/buyer. No one gets screwed)
Hold-Back (Reserve that the dealers don't let the consumer know exists, and probably 95% consumers don't. If you play your cards right, this is the best case scenario and completely realistic.)
Dealership Cost (Congratulations, you just raped the dealership. Please tell me, how did you do it?)
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Never pay what the sticker price is. For most cars you get away with invoice or less if you do your homework and are patient. Some dealerships won't bother to work with you, while others are more than willing.
In order from highest to lowest price:
Dealer Markup (If you buy a car at this price, you're a chump. AKA the MBGreen price)
MSRP (Slightly less of a chump, but a chump nonetheless)
Invoice (Perfectly acceptable. If you're $500 over invoice, it's kind of a win/win for the dealer/buyer. No one gets screwed)
Hold-Back (Reserve that the dealers don't let the consumer know exists, and probably 95% consumers don't. If you play your cards right, this is the best case scenario and completely realistic.)
Dealership Cost (Congratulations, you just raped the dealership. Please tell me, how did you do it?)
Good list. Even invoice is misleading. There's factory invoice, then there's dealer invoice. I usually shoot for factory invoice before incentives. That makes me happy. I know the dealer always has wiggle room between factory and dealer invoice, and unless you're dealing with a non-holdback automaker like BMW or Audi, they'll profit from that too. It can also be a benefit going to a bigger dealer. Places like Galpin down here can offer better deals because they always know they're going to get volume discounts. I don't think Galpin goes a single month without getting its volume discount, so the prices are pretty stable. Otherwise, you have to look for a dealership that's getting close to qualifying at the end of the month.
EDIT: As an example for anyone else, MSRP on the car I just got was $37,040. I paid $32,863. Invoice was $34,163, so with the $1000 incentive, it was $33,163. They knocked off an extra $300 because it included cooled seats, which I didn't really care about. It was easier than ordering. In the end, though, they got a bit of wiggle room, I'm sure they were looking at volume pricing, and the holdback is 3% on the car. Good deal for both.
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My Dad drove Celicas in the 80's until the odometer stopped working. Put 300K (or so) on them in shitty NE weather and never did anything but change the oil.
My wife's 2001 Accord has had nothing but standard maintenance since it was new and is still going strong. Thing has been between Vegas and LA 100 times and it's still a fine drive at 80mph.
I had over 200K on my old 325i before someone smashed into it and killed it. Still the best car I've ever owned. 20+ years old and it could do 90-100 comfortably on the highway, and take turns at speed even in Malibu Canyon.
Meanwhile I get the occasional less than 3 year old rental, always turns out to be American, and always seems to be hot garbage.
So what you're saying is that cars you own and maintain are fine, but cars that are driven by different people literally every single day are less so? Funny, that.
Try it this way round. If American cars were so crappy and unreliable, they'd break down more often. If they broke down more often, they'd need more servicing and be less available for hire. Therefore, they would be less lucrative a hire vehicle. It stands to reason then that American cars are actually pretty reliable for the simple reason that they're used as hire cars. And taxis, come to think of it.
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Good list. Even invoice is misleading. There's factory invoice, then there's dealer invoice. I usually shoot for factory invoice before incentives. That makes me happy. I know the dealer always has wiggle room between factory and dealer invoice, and unless you're dealing with a non-holdback automaker like BMW or Audi, they'll profit from that too.
I don't believe I'd ever shopped for a car that didn't have a holdback. How do you know which manufacturers don't have it?
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I don't believe I'd ever shopped for a car that didn't have a holdback. How do you know which manufacturers don't have it?
Euro companies either don't have one or it's minimal (Mercedes is like 1%). Scion also doesn't have one because it's no hassle pricing. I'm sure there's a list somewhere, though. Most American auto companies are 3%. Maybe all.
EDIT: Here's a list. Apparently Lincoln doesn't have a holdback, but Mercury is the standard 3. Weird. And Volkswagen is actually 2%, which is big for a Euro automaker.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/dealer-holdback/
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Never pay what the sticker price is. For most cars you get away with invoice or less if you do your homework and are patient. Some dealerships won't bother to work with you, while others are more than willing.
In order from highest to lowest price:
Dealer Markup (If you buy a car at this price, you're a chump. AKA the MBGreen price)
MSRP (Slightly less of a chump, but a chump nonetheless)
Invoice (Perfectly acceptable. If you're $500 over invoice, it's kind of a win/win for the dealer/buyer. No one gets screwed)
Hold-Back (Reserve that the dealers don't let the consumer know exists, and probably 95% consumers don't. If you play your cards right, this is the best case scenario and completely realistic.)
Dealership Cost (Congratulations, you just raped the dealership. Please tell me, how did you do it?)
I'm aware of that but thanks for the info.. wasn't too aware of the hold-back. For me it was more a case of not wanting to ruffle feathers on the final price when I'm not even close to buying.
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So what you're saying is that cars you own and maintain are fine, but cars that are driven by different people literally every single day are less so? Funny, that.
Try it this way round. If American cars were so crappy and unreliable, they'd break down more often. If they broke down more often, they'd need more servicing and be less available for hire. Therefore, they would be less lucrative a hire vehicle. It stands to reason then that American cars are actually pretty reliable for the simple reason that they're used as hire cars. And taxis, come to think of it.
The thing you're missing is that they only rent the car out for 2-3 years (max) before selling it to some chump as a certified pre-owned. I don't care if a pack of 800 pound gorillas are training it in that time frame... the drive should not be that crappy.
Taxis are another story entirely. Nothing standard on those bad boys.
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The worst rental car I ever got was a Toyota Corolla. We drove off the lot with it, got maybe a mile down the street, then Enterprise called us back and upgraded us to a Buick LaCrosse for free (they found out we were getting married and figured we should get something better).
Besides that, since 2012 I've rented an Avenger, an Equinox, a Liberty, and an Altima. All were fine but none could touch the LaCrosse. It was like driving a cloud.
Like I said my favorite car I ever owned was a Buick.
Too bad someone felt the need to total it
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I will say that driving my car in the snow sucks. I want to eventually get a 4wd Acura. They only make the TSX in 2wd, correct? is the TL the smallest car with 4wd?
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The worst rental car I ever got was a Toyota Corolla. We drove off the lot with it, got maybe a mile down the street, then Enterprise called us back and upgraded us to a Buick LaCrosse for free (they found out we were getting married and figured we should get something better).
Besides that, since 2012 I've rented an Avenger, an Equinox, a Liberty, and an Altima. All were fine but none could touch the LaCrosse. It was like driving a cloud.
my first job out of school was for a rental car company. One of the only good parts of the job was that I got to drive almost every make and model conceivable. Sometimes for rentals, it's not about the model of car it is that determines how it drives, but it's time in service and how much past customers beat up on it. Most rentals would only last a little over a year or a certain amount of milage before it would get pulled from the fleet and sold back to the automobile manufacturer.
In my short time there, I experienced the most mechanical and maintenance problems with Dodge and Chevy. Fords were nothing short of spectacular, I was particularly fond of the fusion, edge, explorer and mustang.
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I will say that driving my car in the snow sucks. I want to eventually get a 4wd Acura. They only make the TSX in 2wd, correct? is the TL the smallest car with 4wd?
In Europe the Acura TSX is the Honda Accord. True fact.
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The thing you're missing is that they only rent the car out for 2-3 years (max) before selling it to some chump as a certified pre-owned. I don't care if a pack of 800 pound gorillas are training it in that time frame... the drive should not be that crappy.
Taxis are another story entirely. Nothing standard on those bad boys.
Rental cars in general are terrible, but I don't believe I've ever owned a car that was also used as a standard rental car. The models tend to be the poorest available unless you pony up for a better class. Either way, Detroit was rather terrible for years. It's great to see them coming back, but obviously it'll take time to convince a lot of people that it's true. All it took was one ride to get two different people interested in ditching a BMW and a Toyota Avalon for the Fusion. My dad picks up his today. It's identical to mine but with Driver Assist and ACC tacked on. My friend is trying to figure out if he can get out of his BMW quite yet, but he's been working with multiple dealers to do so.
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my first job out of school was for a rental car company. One of the only good parts of the job was that I got to drive almost every make and model conceivable. Sometimes for rentals, it's not about the model of car it is that determines how it drives, but it's time in service and how much past customers beat up on it. Most rentals would only last a little over a year or a certain amount of milage before it would get pulled from the fleet and sold back to the automobile manufacturer.
In my short time there, I experienced the most mechanical and maintenance problems with Dodge and Chevy. Fords were nothing short of spectacular, I was particularly fond of the fusion, edge, explorer and mustang.
I wouldn't have bought a Chevy before the last go around. I'm still not sure I would have, although I do like the new Camaro and the idea of the Volt. I still don't like Dodge, but I rented a Charger in Maui a couple of years ago and it was a decent drive.
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I'm aware of that but thanks for the info.. wasn't too aware of the hold-back. For me it was more a case of not wanting to ruffle feathers on the final price when I'm not even close to buying.
I figured, but I bring up the hold-back because what most don't know about usually is the difference of a few thousand dollars. The more you know...
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I'm looking at 2010-2011 Audi A6 and S4. Can be had in the mid 20s. Want to take a few for a test drive once the snow dissipates.
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I'm looking at 2010-2011 Audi A6 and S4. Can be had in the mid 20s. Want to take a few for a test drive once the snow dissipates.
I had the A3 with the soft turbo a few years ago and it was the most dreary vehicle I've ever had to live with, although I believe that recent Audis are supposed to be much better driving experiences.
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I had the A3 with the soft turbo a few years ago and it was the most dreary vehicle I've ever had to live with, although I believe that recent Audis are supposed to be much better driving experiences.
I want to check out the 3.0T. Not too crazy about performance. I prefer creature comforts and satnav at this point. If I wanted to have fun I'd get a motorcycle.
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Like I said my favorite car I ever owned was a Buick.
Too bad someone felt the need to total it
My 325i was murdered by a windows delivery truck at 4mph.
Word of advice... Always ask if your car could be screwed if you get an insurance estimate.
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I want to check out the 3.0T. Not too crazy about performance. I prefer creature comforts and satnav at this point. If I wanted to have fun I'd get a motorcycle.
GE just gave my dad an A5 when he retired. He loves it, but it's useless in the weather they are getting up there.
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GE just gave my dad an A5 when he retired. He loves it, but it's useless in the weather they are getting up there.
I would get the Quattro so it wouldn't be an issue. I can drive anything in the snow though I'm not too worried.
I wanted the Subaru BR-Z but its not practical for me as a daily driver.
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RWD in snow is funny. I remember years ago my wife trying to drive her 325i up a long hill, in a traffic jam, with a couple of inches of snow on the ground. In the end she gave up, parked it and walked home. We had to go back later when the traffic was gone.
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RWD in snow is funny. I remember years ago my wife trying to drive her 325i up a long hill, in a traffic jam, with a couple of inches of snow on the ground. In the end she gave up, parked it and walked home. We had to go back later when the traffic was gone.
I had to push some dipshit in a BMW 328 this morning because they got stuck on a hill. I guess that doesn't make them an poopchute but it's the last thing I had in mind for early this morning in the cold. I'd rather he just took his floor mats out and wedged them under the rear tires. That or some kitty litter.
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I had to push some dipshit in a BMW 328 this morning because they got stuck on a hill. I guess that doesn't make them an poopchute but it's the last thing I had in mind for early this morning in the cold. I'd rather he just took his floor mats out and wedged them under the rear tires. That or some kitty litter.
If you knew what conditions would be like, I don't get why you wouldn't keep a bag or tub if kitty litter in the trunk.
EDIT: You meaning that guy. Not you personally.
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If you knew what conditions would be like, I don't get why you wouldn't keep a bag or tub if kitty litter in the trunk.
Despite the seasonal snow and ice that happens every freaking year, people have a tendency to not know what the hell they are doing.
I live near a town that is predominantly Korean.. some of those drivers in the elements are a living nightmare. They either drive 3 miles per hour in their 4wd BMW X5 or spin out on straight roads because they don't understand that braking hard on ice is incredibly stupid.
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Just yesterday I had to plow my car into a curbside snowbank to avoid a soccer-mom who managed to 180 her GL class Mercedes truck into oncoming traffic. Mind you this on an uphill road with no turn in sight.
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forgot to mention the new ford Taurus is very nice. I hated my parent's growing up. has anyone been in one of these?
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has anyone been in one of these?
Haven't been in a new one. I was is in the passenger seat of a 2003 Taurus that was involved in an accident with an old woman.
This old woman just drove out right in front of my friend, and he crushed her going 40 or so. She got knocked out GTA style with her head on the steering wheel.
He called 911 and said one of the best quotes of all-time: "Yes, I was in an accident and I KO'd a 70 year old woman..."
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I rear-ended someone with a '00 Sable. That thing was a tank, hardly a scratch on it.
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Bullshit.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/03/11/nj-bans-tesla-from-selling-cars-directly-to-consumers/
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The worst rental car I ever got was a Toyota Corolla. We drove off the lot with it, got maybe a mile down the street, then Enterprise called us back and upgraded us to a Buick LaCrosse for free (they found out we were getting married and figured we should get something better).
Besides that, since 2012 I've rented an Avenger, an Equinox, a Liberty, and an Altima. All were fine but none could touch the LaCrosse. It was like driving a cloud.
Been driving an 05 Buick LaCrosse for a few years, this thing is dandy, very comfortable on long drives. Drive is smooth and consistent. It isn't "fun" driving, like a sports car would be, but it's smooth and easy. Don't really know how else to describe it. I think my next (first real person car, Whooo!) car I would like a crossover, just for the sheer volume of comforts (and the liklihood of kids on the back half of owning that car), but my LaCrosse will always hold a great place in my heart
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Bullshit.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/03/11/nj-bans-tesla-from-selling-cars-directly-to-consumers/
Land Of The Free Market.
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As of 2 weeks ago, out with this:
(http://www.yukongifts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/honda-odyssey-2013-white-photo-895.jpg)
In with this
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^ can i catch a ride to the tailgate?
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Hah! freak that, I drive it as little as possible. 5.3L v8, I get about 10 blocks to the gallon in city driving.
Right now, just goes back and forth to the train, but will use it on the beach alot this summer.
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Been driving an 05 Buick LaCrosse for a few years, this thing is dandy, very comfortable on long drives. Drive is smooth and consistent. It isn't "fun" driving, like a sports car would be, but it's smooth and easy. Don't really know how else to describe it. I think my next (first real person car, Whooo!) car I would like a crossover, just for the sheer volume of comforts (and the liklihood of kids on the back half of owning that car), but my LaCrosse will always hold a great place in my heart
The average age of people driving that thing is deceased. You're like the one person under 90 that owns it.
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The average of people driving that thing is deceased. You're like the one person under 90 that owns it.
Old people do love their Buicks but the new ones are so damn nice.
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The average of people driving that thing is deceased. You're like the one person under 90 that owns it.
His other car is a 2003 Grand Marquis, Champagne color of course.
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His other car is a 2003 Grand Marquis, Champagne color of course.
My dad had a 1986 Buick Regal, 305hp V8, back in the mid 90s. I drove the excrement out of that car. And yes, it was a champagne color.
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My dad had a 1986 Buick Regal, 305hp V8, back in the mid 90s. I drove the excrement out of that car. And yes, it was a champagne color.
Did it have the fake rag-top? That's a favorite of my inlaws.
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Did it have the fake rag-top? That's a favorite of my inlaws.
hahahaha...Yes!
I was going to buy that car off my dad, but then some dumb bitch rear-ended him...and the car was written off. Too bad....perfect pimp mobile.
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His other car is a 2003 Grand Marquis, Champagne color of course.
Hahahah another of the "old" standby's
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My dad had a 1986 Buick Regal, 305hp V8, back in the mid 90s. I drove the excrement out of that car. And yes, it was a champagne color.
I thought cars rusted to nothing in 10 max years up there.
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The average age of people driving that thing is deceased. You're like the one person under 90 that owns it.
Haha funny story how I came to own it...
A family friend (who was 83 at the time) bought the car brand new, and less than 6 months after purchase was diagnosed with terminal cancer, he never drove the car again (even though it took him another 8 months to pass). He passed on, and then my dad bought it in his estate sale. 6 weeks after this my car (a busted derriere 2000 Chrysler Cirrus with like 128,000 miles on it) broke down beyond repair. So my dad and I found a 2007 ford focus for me. When we went to have the focus put on the insurance it was going to jack up another $1300 per 6 months, and the LaCrosse was "only" going to bump the insurance up $650 a month. As a result I inherited the LaCrosse, while my dad paid that car off, while I paid for the Focus, the car my dad was driving.
And to bring it back around, the original owner was set to be an 83 year old man.
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'Merica!
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/14/business/gm-air-bag-failures-linked-to-303-deaths.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes
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Haha funny story how I came to own it...
A family friend (who was 83 at the time) bought the car brand new, and less than 6 months after purchase was diagnosed with terminal cancer, he never drove the car again (even though it took him another 8 months to pass). He passed on, and then my dad bought it in his estate sale. 6 weeks after this my car (a busted derriere 2000 Chrysler Cirrus with like 128,000 miles on it) broke down beyond repair. So my dad and I found a 2007 ford focus for me. When we went to have the focus put on the insurance it was going to jack up another $1300 per 6 months, and the LaCrosse was "only" going to bump the insurance up $650 a month. As a result I inherited the LaCrosse, while my dad paid that car off, while I paid for the Focus, the car my dad was driving.
And to bring it back around, the original owner was set to be an 83 year old man.
Hahahahaha besides you the youngest people I ever saw drive that car were my parents in their mid 60's.
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I knida like the new Dodge Challengers, Saul.
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I knida like the new Dodge Challengers, Saul.
I love the Challengers. I'm a fan of the Charger too, but the Challenger is something I'd own if I could afford it.
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I knida like the new Dodge Challengers, Saul.
Why are you finishing every post like this?
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I think its supposed to be a southern drawl of "that's all" but frankly I'm confused myself, Saul.
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Why are you finishing every post like this?
I always wanted a friend named Saul, but I never had one.
So, I just started calling everybody Saul, Saul.
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You're a very odd man.
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You're a very odd man.
Thank you, Todd.
(I also want a friend named Todd)
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You're a very odd man.
Which is why I was shocked he doesn't smoke weed.
He does this sober
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Thank you, Todd.
(I also want a friend named Todd)
#BringBackTheCimmerian
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Thank you, Todd.
(I also want a friend named Todd)
No more half measures, Scruggy.
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No more half measures, Scruggy.
Meth Damon
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#BringBackTheCimmerian
#Scruggz4Lyfe
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#Scruggz4Lyfe
Knave
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#Scruggz4Lyfe
Tha ladiez kall me Donald Pleasence.
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Tha ladiez kall me Donald Pleasence.
/Saul
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Tha ladiez kall me Donald Pleasence.
Broads get wet for Dr.Loomis.
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Going to buy my wife a new car this evening. There is a 95% chance that we will be replacing her current Mini with another Mini.
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http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Tesla-New-York-agree-on-direct-sales-5358565.php
Tesla, N.Y. agree on direct sales
Tesla Motors Inc. and New York auto dealer lobbying groups reached an agreement that allows the electric-car maker to keep its five company-owned stores in the state and add others, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Friday.
"Today's agreement reaffirms New York's long-standing commitment to the dealer franchise system, while making sure New York remains a leader in spurring innovative businesses and encouraging zero emissions vehicle sales," Cuomo said in a statement. Legislation in New York will be introduced "in the near future" to implement the agreement, said Cuomo. He didn't say how many other stores would be added.
The New York agreement comes less than two weeks after New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie barred Tesla from selling cars directly to consumers at its two stores in that state.
Tesla is battling dealers state by state for the right to sell its cars directly to consumers. It reached a similar agreement this week in Ohio.
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Going to buy my wife a new car this evening. There is a 95% chance that we will be replacing her current Mini with another Mini.
Not All-American, but you get a pass as a proud Jeep owner. Did you go Paceman? It's Jet related.
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Not All-American, but you get a pass as a proud Jeep owner. Did you go Paceman? It's Jet related.
Decided just to buy her current Mini out of the lease.
In other American automotive news, might be time to start saving pennies for one of these magnificent beasts:
http://www.fourwheeler.com/news/1404-2016-ford-svt-bronco-coming-soon/
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Decided just to buy her current Mini out of the lease.
In other American automotive news, might be time to start saving pennies for one of these magnificent beasts:
http://www.fourwheeler.com/news/1404-2016-ford-svt-bronco-coming-soon/
Additional options Russ would need to include in his Ford Bronco purchase:
- a ladder to climb into it.
- a booster seat to see over the dashboard
- platform shoes to reach the gas pedal/brakes
- Union Jack painted on the hood
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Additional options Russ would need to include in his Ford Bronco purchase:
- a ladder to climb into it.
- a booster seat to see over the dashboard
- platform shoes to reach the gas pedal/brakes
All this may be true, but at least I would finally have found adequate compensation for the size of my penis.
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Wow, that's a fine lookin' bitch.
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I don't see the appeal of only having 2 doors on an SUV.
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FFS. I just read to the end of the article. Wankers.
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I don't see the appeal of only having 2 doors on an SUV.
It served the original Bronco and most Jeeps well for many years. From a practicality standpoint, it sucks. Nothing more inconvenient than having to shove the seat up and away just to climb into the back. Toyota FJ Cruiser has 2 real doors but then 2 hideaway doors to facilitate rear-entry.
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Haha, somehow I glossed over that.
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It served the original Bronco and most Jeeps well for many years. From a practicality standpoint, it sucks. Nothing more inconvenient than having to shove the seat up and away just to climb into the back. Toyota FJ Cruiser has 2 real doors but then 2 hideaway doors to facilitate rear-entry.
FJ Cruiser has been discontinued. The Wrangler is an amazing off road vehicle but the Unlimited (four door) is far more practical for everyday usage.
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FJ Cruiser has been discontinued. The Wrangler is an amazing off road vehicle but the Unlimited (four door) is far more practical for everyday usage.
FJ is still a very popular ride. Hands-down the 4 door Jeep is the winner for me.
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FJ is still a very popular ride. Hands-down the 4 door Jeep is the winner for me.
I'm obviously biased, but I think the Wrangler Unlimited is genuinely the best bang for the buck vehicle on the market. It's a family car, a genuinely brilliant off road vehicle, a full convertible in the summer, and virtually unstoppable in winter snow. It's massively upgradeable, bombproof reliable and has extremely strong residuals. The only real knocks on it are that it doesn't have the greatest safety ratings, although its ground clearance and roll cage make it likely to come out of most real world accidents pretty well, and it's a little industrial compared to some of the competition.
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I love my F150
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a129/tkgraves/truck.jpg)
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Somehow I've never driven the F150. I've driven a Ranger, Escape, Explorer, Expedition, Sable (Taurus equivalent) but never the F150.
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It's a great truck for driving around a small mountain town. I wouldn't want to drive it in the city or commute on the highway with it. The gas mileage is excrement.
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I love my F150
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a129/tkgraves/truck.jpg)
That looks like it has dead bodies in the back.
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Had? Still does.
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I drove an FF7 but i liked the FF6 a little better
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That looks like it has dead bodies in the back.
That's one of the things that's so great about a pickup. Sweep, hose, duct tape the window and it's good to go!
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I drove an FF7 but i liked the FF6 a little better
FF7 was the funbags. Cloud and Vincent in 2016.
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That's one of the things that's so great about a pickup. Sweep, hose, duct tape their mouths and it's good to go!
(http://media.giphy.com/media/iVDo6InQKyW8o/giphy.gif)
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mah fly ride is in the shop, Donald
Fukkin trannies
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http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/22k59y/pt_cruiser_owners_what_tragedy_burdened_you_with/
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(http://i.imgur.com/lyI9Qcw.gif)
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(http://i.imgur.com/NHqExH7.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/N91Ffbz.gif)
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Lol, I don't think that's an American made car. Looks like an Acura Integra.
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With a bad home plasti-dip paint job.
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With a bad home plasti-dip paint job.
It's awful.
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Ken Block's latest Gymkhana video, if you like that sort of thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qanlirrRWs
Incredible car, great camera shots and some iconic views of Los Angeles.
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Just replaced my American automobile and German automobile with..... another All American automobile. With the move to Toronto we only need one car and I wanted to reduce the payments, so I traded in the Wrangler and the Mini for a brand new Cherokee. It's not a great looking vehicle, but it is loaded. Might be the first car I've ever bought that doesn't have a single blank switchplate.
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Mini is German?
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When you're on the main forum page and this is the most recent thread, it looks like it says "the all american autism"
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Mini is German?
BMW
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BMW
TIL
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http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1658545,00.html
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I'm very suspicious of Jeep/Chrysler. Their reliability has been very sketchy.
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Yes.
I'm very suspicious of Jeep/Chrysler. Their reliability has been very sketchy.
Yes. Plus, Jeep's clientele is 40% inbred Republican, 40% homosexual, and 20% hobbit.
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I'm very suspicious of Jeep/Chrysler. Their reliability has been very sketchy.
Just on a curious note, why do people actually still prefer buying American?
I mean I understand the whole patriotic angle, so if that's it fine. But if someone thinks American cars are actually good?
Detroit is one of the most epic failures of any modern cities. Why someone would buy a vehicle from the epitome of complete excrement is beyond me
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Yes.
Yes. Plus, Jeep's clientele is 40% inbred Republican, 40% homosexual, and 20% hobbit.
TIL JE drives a jeep.
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Ever see a Ford vs Chevy argument? Tard city.
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Just on a curious note, why do people actually still prefer buying American?
I mean I understand the whole patriotic angle, so if that's it fine. But if someone thinks American cars are actually good?
Detroit is one of the most epic failures of any modern cities. Why someone would buy a vehicle from the epitome of complete excrement is beyond me
Ford has rebounded. Bought my first American car in 15 years last year.
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Just on a curious note, why do people actually still prefer buying American?
I mean I understand the whole patriotic angle, so if that's it fine. But if someone thinks American cars are actually good?
Detroit is one of the most epic failures of any modern cities. Why someone would buy a vehicle from the epitome of complete excrement is beyond me
Ford is making very good cars these days. Chevy is rebounding but I think they're more style than substance. Chrysler, see above.
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Ford is making very good cars these days. Chevy is rebounding but I think they're more style than substance. Chrysler, see above.
Dem Asians know math though
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I'm very suspicious of Jeep/Chrysler. Their reliability has been very sketchy.
I haven't had any problem with them, this is my fourth Jeep.
Just on a curious note, why do people actually still prefer buying American?
I mean I understand the whole patriotic angle, so if that's it fine. But if someone thinks American cars are actually good?
Detroit is one of the most epic failures of any modern cities. Why someone would buy a vehicle from the epitome of complete excrement is beyond me
I've had no problem with American cars ever. The most unreliable car I ever had was a handbuilt British sports car (TVR Chimaera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TVR_Chimaera)) which is not a surprise, the next worst was a Mercedes SL350 which is.
TIL JE drives a jeep.
Is this the first time you've read this thread? It's literally the second post.
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I'm very suspicious of Jeep/Chrysler. Their reliability has been very sketchy.
We got rid of our Dodge Caravan last year after 6 great years to buy a Chrysler Town & Country. Worst mistake I've ever made with a vehicle. Dodge I'd buy again, but never again a Chrysler.
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http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/heroic-chicagoan-escapes-tyrant-tow-truck-1695072675
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We got rid of our Dodge Caravan last year after 6 great years to buy a Chrysler Town & Country. Worst mistake I've ever made with a vehicle. Dodge I'd buy again, but never again a Chrysler.
Are you being serious? It's essentially the same car
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Are you being serious? It's essentially the same car
Hahaha. How did I miss that post the first time?
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Are you being serious? It's essentially the same car
It's not.
That was what I counted on. I figured I was buying a slightly upgraded version of the same vehicle. It's not even close. It's less comfortable, runs like excrement, and handles worse than the Dodge.
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It's not.
That was what I counted on. I figured I was buying a slightly upgraded version of the same vehicle. It's not even close. It's less comfortable, runs like excrement, and handles worse than the Dodge.
The engine, drivetrain, and majority of the body is identical..
Look at the Subaru BRZ and Toyota Scion FR-S and you'll see my point
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The engine, drivetrain, and majority of the body is identical..
I can say with conviction that driving the T&C is nothing like driving the Caravan. From traction, to engine performance, to the computer system (T&C is buggy as hell), to interior comfort, the Caravan was far superior. Whether you want to entertain the argument or not is up to you. I've owned a lot of cars in my lifetime. I'm comfortable with my own ability to assess my experience.
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Please read fantasy man
http://www.autotrader.com/research/article/car-reviews/231456/2015-chrysler-town-country-vs-2015-dodge-grand-caravan-whats-the-difference.jsp
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The same excrement applies to the older versions
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I think I'll skip the read.
The fact that the dashboard tells me I need an oil change the day after I get one, or that I need brakes despite spending $500 to replace them one month earlier, or how the car's "traction control" had me slipping all over the road during this past winter (until I turned it off), or the ridiculously uncomfortable seats, or the poor headlights, or the poor acceleration, or that it runs so hot that you'll actually get burned if you touch the hood after it has been running for more than 20 minutes--any of the above being far worse than an older model Caravan tell me all I need to know.
Did I just happen to buy a lemon? Maybe. It doesn't change the fact that it has soured me toward Chrysler for good, whereas the Dodge was second only to a Chevy Cavalier in terms of best car I've ever owned.
FTR, Dodge and Chrysler have made cousin models for as long as I can remember. In high school, my buddy and I had K cars. He had the Dodge and I had the Chrysler. Same car, same model year. His consistently ran better. It's all anecdotal, and I don't deny that fact, but it's enough to give me the opinion that started this conversation: I'm done with Chrysler after this car.
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Went to the autoshow yesterday. Got drunk, ogled and hit on showroom models, saw some cool cars. Good times.
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I think I'll skip the read.
The fact that the dashboard tells me I need an oil change the day after I get one, or that I need brakes despite spending $500 to replace them one month earlier, or how the car's "traction control" had me slipping all over the road during this past winter (until I turned it off), or the ridiculously uncomfortable seats, or the poor headlights, or the poor acceleration, or that it runs so hot that you'll actually get burned if you touch the hood after it has been running for more than 20 minutes--any of the above being far worse than an older model Caravan tell me all I need to know.
Did I just happen to buy a lemon? Maybe. It doesn't change the fact that it has soured me toward Chrysler for good, whereas the Dodge was second only to a Chevy Cavalier in terms of best car I've ever owned.
FTR, Dodge and Chrysler have made cousin models for as long as I can remember. In high school, my buddy and I had K cars. He had the Dodge and I had the Chrysler. Same car, same model year. His consistently ran better. It's all anecdotal, and I don't deny that fact, but it's enough to give me the opinion that started this conversation: I'm done with Chrysler after this car.
Skips my link.. spends 15 minutes typing a post I will not read
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Skips my link.. spends 15 minutes typing a post I will not read
Hahaha
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This is pretty cool:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-just-revealed-crazy-charger-155215583.html
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http://imgur.com/j6jIy6B.gifv
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http://imgur.com/j6jIy6B.gifv
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh excrement
wrecked
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Saw that a while ago. Jeep v semi is a fair battle.
I miss my Wrangler so much.
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Saw that a while ago. Jeep v semi is a fair battle.
I miss my Wrangler so much.
freak your Wrangler
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http://www.vice.com/read/slapdash-supercars-324?utm_source=vicefbus
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http://www.govplanet.com/jsp/s/auction.ips?msg=15351&kwtag=herocarousel%23msg=15351&sm=0&c=3468&sort=p%2520desc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpWvQMUDKgs
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http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/10/466267066/tesla-preparing-to-charge-into-affordable-car-market
$35,000 price tag. Before tax incentives. Production starts 2017, preorders in March. This car will be a game changer.
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(http://a3.files.maxim.com/image/upload/c_fit,cs_srgb,w_620/MTM3NTA0MDIyNDk0OTc5NTAx.png)
Only 77 of these were made, all signed by Burt Reynolds.
I'm out for the tailgate.
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Nice.
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The new Model S P100D with Ludicrous mode is the fastest accelerating production car you can buy - 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. The only production cars ever made that are faster are the LaFerrari and the Porsche 918, both of which were limited runs and cost over $1M. And the P100D has a range of over 300 miles with the ability to carry four people and luggage.
It might just be the best car ever made.
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The new Model S P100D with Ludicrous mode is the fastest accelerating production car you can buy - 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. The only production cars ever made that are faster are the LaFerrari and the Porsche 918, both of which were limited runs and cost over $1M. And the P100D has a range of over 300 miles with the ability to carry four people and luggage.
It might just be the best car ever made.
Yep.
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The new Model S P100D with Ludicrous mode is the fastest accelerating production car you can buy - 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. The only production cars ever made that are faster are the LaFerrari and the Porsche 918, both of which were limited runs and cost over $1M. And the P100D has a range of over 300 miles with the ability to carry four people and luggage.
It might just be the best car ever made.
Are the 4 people human sized or Johnny English sized?
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Are the 4 people human sized or Johnny English sized?
That car has plenty of room in it. Probably 8 JE's. And that's just in the frunk.
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Speaking of cars I saw this thing near work today. Pretty awesome, looks race spec and road legal. Homage to Tommi Makinen's WRC Mitsubishi Evo
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160824/10d44d11d71bf637b59447b791a71d1b.jpg)
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The new Model S P100D with Ludicrous mode is the fastest accelerating production car you can buy - 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. The only production cars ever made that are faster are the LaFerrari and the Porsche 918, both of which were limited runs and cost over $1M. And the P100D has a range of over 300 miles with the ability to carry four people and luggage.
It might just be the best car ever made.
I was coming in to post this. Went down to the Tesla storefront 6 blocks away this morning and put my order in.
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I was coming in to post this. Went down to the Tesla storefront 6 blocks away this morning and put my order in.
Really? I think the Tesla is an incredible car but if I were dropping $135K on a family sedan I'd not get past the Maserati Gran Turismo.
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Ludacris mode? So this car is basically an expensive rice rocket from the fast and the furious movies
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Really? I think the Tesla is an incredible car but if I were dropping $135K on a family sedan I'd not get past the Maserati Gran Turismo.
How in the world is a Gran Turismo a family sedan? The rear seats are essentially useless and incredibly difficult to get into.
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How in the world is a Gran Turismo a family sedan?
In the world where I meant Quattroporte but wrote Gran Turismo.
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In the world where I meant Quattroporte but wrote Gran Turismo.
Vastly prefer the Tesla. Have you ever driven one? Or a Maserati?
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Vastly prefer the Tesla. Have you ever driven one? Or a Maserati?
No to both. I just love the look and sound of Maseratis.
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No to both. I just love the look and sound of Maseratis.
Enjoy the shop if you buy one of those dime a dozen mediocre overpriced "exotic" cars. In case you haven't guessed the car for that money sucks.
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Enjoy the shop if you buy one of those dime a dozen mediocre overpriced "exotic" cars. In case you haven't guessed the car for that money sucks.
That's the kind of thing that people buying new Camrys convince themselves of. No one buys a car like a Maserati because of its reliability, if you need boring dependability then there are plenty of suitable cars on the market for you. I've owned a lot of boring but dependable cars and I've owned a few pretty exciting but unreliable cars (TVR Chimaera, Alfa Romeo GTV6, Lancia Delta), I can tell you that the fun times and the added bills more than made up for the joy of owning driving them. There are times when you need boring, but if you can afford the odd hiccup and unexpected bill then it's not a decision I'd ever criticise someone for.
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That's the kind of thing that people buying new Camrys convince themselves of. No one buys a car like a Maserati because of its reliability, if you need boring dependability then there are plenty of suitable cars on the market for you. I've owned a lot of boring but dependable cars and I've owned a few pretty exciting but unreliable cars (TVR Chimaera, Alfa Romeo GTV6, Lancia Delta), I can tell you that the fun times and the added bills more than made up for the joy of owning driving them. There are times when you need boring, but if you can afford the odd hiccup and unexpected bill then it's not a decision I'd ever criticise someone for.
That's well and good, I am saying there are better options for the money. It's not particularly well made. For 100k plus you can get cars that are exciting and not dime a dozen pieces of crap.
I know people that have had them and regretted it.
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That's the kind of thing that people buying new Camrys convince themselves of. No one buys a car like a Maserati because of its reliability, if you need boring dependability then there are plenty of suitable cars on the market for you. I've owned a lot of boring but dependable cars and I've owned a few pretty exciting but unreliable cars (TVR Chimaera, Alfa Romeo GTV6, Lancia Delta), I can tell you that the fun times and the added bills more than made up for the joy of owning driving them. There are times when you need boring, but if you can afford the odd hiccup and unexpected bill then it's not a decision I'd ever criticise someone for.
None of those cars you mentioned is a Maserati. I specifically asked about Maserati for a reason. Most of them have serious driving issues or performance that's not on par with their design or price tag. You said you like the way they look and sound, and both of those aspects are their biggest plus.
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None of those cars you mentioned is a Maserati. I specifically asked about Maserati for a reason. Most of them have serious driving issues or performance that's not on par with their design or price tag. You said you like the way they look and sound, and both of those aspects are their biggest plus.
I'm not trying to rationalise it, buying a car like a Maserati isn't a decision made with especially great amounts of logic. I'm sure there are plenty of cars that cost less, go faster, carry more stuff and more reliable. I said that if I were dropping that kind of money on a four door sedan, I'd probably end up buying a Quattroporte. I fully accept that someone else may think that decision ridiculous.
I'd also look seriously at a Panamera because after initially hating the way it looks, damn if they don't turn my head every time I see them.
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Ludacris mode? So this car is basically an expensive rice rocket from the fast and the furious movies
Wrong reference
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How in the world is a Gran Turismo a family sedan? The rear seats are essentially useless and incredibly difficult to get into.
JE has no kids so he wasn't wrong in calling it a family sedan, minus the sedan part of course
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JE has no kids so he wasn't wrong in calling it a family sedan, minus the sedan part of course
And the family
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JE has no kids so he wasn't wrong in calling it a family sedan, minus the sedan part of course
That's true. Also true that JE could sit in the back and kick his legs up and down freely while shouting "Wheeeeeee!"
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Wrong reference
Not surprising, I've never seen any of them
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Not surprising, I've never seen any of them
I meant it has nothing to do with FF.
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I meant it has nothing to do with FF.
That's the joke
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(https://imganuncios.mitula.net/2016_chevrolet_suburban_lt_1500_siren_red_tintcoat_in_hubbard_ohio_3950007465412224166.jpg)
Needed something bigger. Bought something bigger. Rec'd an awesome trade deal on my Tahoe and just grabbed something with a little more space.
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(https://imganuncios.mitula.net/2016_chevrolet_suburban_lt_1500_siren_red_tintcoat_in_hubbard_ohio_3950007465412224166.jpg)
Needed something bigger. Bought something bigger. Rec'd an awesome trade deal on my Tahoe and just grabbed something with a little more space.
cool...you can pick us up for the tailgate now
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cool...you will pick us up for the tailgate now
Correction
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Why is it not green with Jets logos all over it?
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Why is it not green with Jets logos all over it?
and why doesn't it say Camaro
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and why doesn't it say Camaro
(http://orig03.deviantart.net/1c8b/f/2015/072/c/b/camaro_van_concept_by_echogshep-d8ll899.jpg)
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I needed something big so as to hold Guiness, his hors de'ovures and his conversation.
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(http://orig03.deviantart.net/1c8b/f/2015/072/c/b/camaro_van_concept_by_echogshep-d8ll899.jpg)
Looks like the hearse that'll carry MB's remains to the cemetery when he dies of a ketchup overdose next year.
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(http://orig03.deviantart.net/1c8b/f/2015/072/c/b/camaro_van_concept_by_echogshep-d8ll899.jpg)
that looks like the result of a Camaro freaking Ecto-1.
I needed something big so as to hold Guiness, his hors de'ovures and his conversation.
and your head
Looks like the hearse that'll carry MB's remains to the cemetery when he dies of a ketchup overdose next year.
there are worse ways to go.
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I needed something big so as to hold Guiness, his hors de'ovures and his conversation.
And be far enough away from annoying the pee out of the driver.
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And be far enough away from annoying the pee out of the driver.
(http://laughterizer.weebly.com/uploads/5/0/9/8/5098219/8627459.jpg?613)
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(http://laughterizer.weebly.com/uploads/5/0/9/8/5098219/8627459.jpg?613)
That works for sure.
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I needed something big so as to hold Guiness, his hors de'ovures and his conversation.
So...you're picking me up for the 2017 tailgate?? :)
<3 can't wait
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Hahaha
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I don't have words to express how much I want this.
http://cdllife.com/2017/top-trucking-news/featured/burt-reynolds-to-auction-off-bandit-trans-am/
Unfortunately I also don't have the money to express how much I want it.
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I don't have words to express how much I want this.
http://cdllife.com/2017/top-trucking-news/featured/burt-reynolds-to-auction-off-bandit-trans-am/
Unfortunately I also don't have the money to express how much I want it.
I saw that earlier on Facebook. Price is no object for that Trans Am.
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Really hope this turns out to be legit.
http://www.foxsports.com/motor/story/lost-bullitt-ford-mustang-allegedly-found-in-mexico-030417
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Really hope this turns out to be legit.
http://www.foxsports.com/motor/story/lost-bullitt-ford-mustang-allegedly-found-in-mexico-030417
Didn't they confirm it today?
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/new-york-auto-show/news/a33201/2018-dodge-challenger-srt-demon-specs-info-photos-performance/
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These are freaking brilliant, there's a whole series of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15iLHlJPp_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-M5xg2Uyxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTfS0nAgfuE
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We're all laughing 'cause this guy's daughter's a whore?
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https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34451002/2022-gmc-hummer-ev-edition-1-who-buys/
Sorry guys, I'm missing the next 30 tailgates, I just had to get one of these
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https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34451002/2022-gmc-hummer-ev-edition-1-who-buys/
Sorry guys, I'm missing the next 30 tailgates, I just had to get one of these
The crabwalk feature's pretty sick.
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NGL, that thing looks and sounds freaking amazing.
With our move out of the city in a few weeks we're going to go back to being a two car (at least) household. Mrs English still really likes the 6 year old Cherokee we have currently, and it still only has less than 100,000km on the clock so it should be good for a while yet. Which means I get to go and buy a new car, which is one of my favourite things in the world to do.
Almost certainly I will be getting another Wrangler and building the freak out of it again.
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Update: have purchased another Wrangler. And this time round I have a big garage with space to do all the things I couldn't do with the previous one, like installing a suspension lift. And a ladder for me to be able to climb into it after I've lifted it.
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Nice does it also come with a telephone book so you can see over the steering wheel and blocks for your feet so you can press the gas and break?
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Nice does it also come with a telephone book so you can see over the steering wheel and blocks for your feet so you can press the gas and break?
You're just jealous of how big a lifted Jeep will make my wang.
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Update: have purchased another Wrangler. And this time round I have a big garage with space to do all the things I couldn't do with the previous one, like installing a suspension lift. And a ladder for me to be able to climb into it after I've lifted it.
..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201130/31cd7446872ea553e31e58f07b67b5d1.jpg)
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Currently I have a rental truck for a bunch of reno stuff I'm working on. I have no idea why people buy these things if they don't absolutely need a vehicle with a flat bed. It's Ram 2500 with crew cab and a 6.4L Hemi engine, and it's freaking horrible to drive.
Amusingly the model name is Bighorn. They definitely know how to play to their market.
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Currently I have a rental truck for a bunch of reno stuff I'm working on. I have no idea why people buy these things if they don't absolutely need a vehicle with a flat bed. It's Ram 2500 with crew cab and a 6.4L Hemi engine, and it's freaking horrible to drive.
Amusingly the model name is Bighorn. They definitely know how to play to their market.
Sounds like it's just too big of a truck. I have a 5.7L Tundra. It's a bit cumbersome parking, but it's not too bad to drive. I suspect that truck you have is a freaking boat.
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So where I live there are tons of squirrels. A few months ago I had a check engine light come on in my truck. Long story short, a hose has been chewed through by some sort of rodent. Few hundred bucks later problem solved.
Fast forward to today. Crank up truck. Immediately smell fuel. Truck starts running rough. Get out, look under truck, fuel is running all down the fuel tank like a waterfall. Cut off truck, it stops. I'm no mechanic, but I'm pretty sure I have a fuel hose issue, seeing that it stops when I turn off the engine. Gonna have to have it towed to get fixed, but thinking ahead if a squirrel or some other rodent chewed this through, I've gotta prevent this excrement happening again somehow. No, I'm not going to start shooting squirrels or poisoning them. Despite this, I like the little fuckers. I'm not opposed to some hot pepper or other deterrent though. Anyone have this problem before? I would assume I would spray the wheel wells with whatever I use since that's probably how they get up there. Any ideas?
I have a 2 car garage with 2 cars in it already, so no dice there.
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So where I live there are tons of squirrels. A few months ago I had a check engine light come on in my truck. Long story short, a hose has been chewed through by some sort of rodent. Few hundred bucks later problem solved.
Fast forward to today. Crank up truck. Immediately smell fuel. Truck starts running rough. Get out, look under truck, fuel is running all down the fuel tank like a waterfall. Cut off truck, it stops. I'm no mechanic, but I'm pretty sure I have a fuel hose issue, seeing that it stops when I turn off the engine. Gonna have to have it towed to get fixed, but thinking ahead if a squirrel or some other rodent chewed this through, I've gotta prevent this excrement happening again somehow. No, I'm not going to start shooting squirrels or poisoning them. Despite this, I like the little fuckers. I'm not opposed to some hot pepper or other deterrent though. Anyone have this problem before? I would assume I would spray the wheel wells with whatever I use since that's probably how they get up there. Any ideas?
I have a 2 car garage with 2 cars in it already, so no dice there.
Have the squirrel chew on your nuts and not your hose. bundle of sticks
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Have the squirrel chew on your nuts and not your hose. bundle of sticks
I would, it would be much cheaper.
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https://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/1422556077539868680?s=19
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https://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/1422556077539868680?s=19
peak Maine culture
(https://i.redd.it/b5wvrn9vx0571.jpg)
(https://preview.redd.it/dj6ea688nea71.jpg?width=769&auto=webp&s=321a0ceb50b9c94e011cd97df5ac2d05a361611c)
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Tesla + emergency vehicles
https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/16/u-s-safety-regulator-opens-investigation-into-tesla-autopilot-following-crashes-with-parked-emergency-vehicles/
This was interesting:
"TechCrunch has reached out to Tesla, which has dissolved its media relations division, for comment, and will update the story if the company responds."
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Tesla + emergency vehicles
https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/16/u-s-safety-regulator-opens-investigation-into-tesla-autopilot-following-crashes-with-parked-emergency-vehicles/
This was interesting:
"TechCrunch has reached out to Tesla, which has dissolved its media relations division, for comment, and will update the story if the company responds."
Don't worry, Elon will tweet something about Dogecoin or some excrement to not address it at all.
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Don't worry, Elon will tweet something about Dogecoin or some excrement to not address it at all.
We're all waiting to hear his very important opinion about Afghanistan.
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He’ll probably just laugh at the idea of a large amount of people dying again.
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The Tesla Model S Plaid is the fastest production car in history over the quarter mile. Jay Leno just ran a 9.247 at Pomona that was certified by the NHRA, faster than a Challenger SRT Demon (9.65) or a Bugatti Chiron Sport (9.40).
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Just put a deposit down on a Ford F-150 Lightning. I've always been anti trucks, but this solves my two main problems with them - fuel efficiency, and lack of storage space (the engine bay in the Lightning is a large trunk because the motors are inside the wheelbase).
Amusingly, in the video reviews I've seen one thing they keep talking about is its suitability for tailgating - the front trunk has a wide array of power outlets that can run a fridge or TV, and it also has a recessed waterproof tray that they suggest filling with ice and beer. NGL, that might have been a minor factor in my temptation.
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Just put a deposit down on a Ford F-150 Lightning. I've always been anti trucks, but this solves my two main problems with them - fuel efficiency, and lack of storage space (the engine bay in the Lightning is a large trunk because the motors are inside the wheelbase).
Amusingly, in the video reviews I've seen one thing they keep talking about is its suitability for tailgating - the front trunk has a wide array of power outlets that can run a fridge or TV, and it also has a recessed waterproof tray that they suggest filling with ice and beer. NGL, that might have been a minor factor in my temptation.
Nice. I've thought about one too. When do they start making them?
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Nice. I've thought about one too. When do they start making them?
I think they're supposed to start shipping next summer, so I would guess they must start production fairly soon.
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Good news for all you poor little flowers who are scared of talking to people in case they say clever words and steal all your money.
https://jalopnik.com/car-sales-people-have-little-left-to-do-1847884073
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Good news for all you poor little flowers who are scared of talking to people in case they say clever words and steal all your money.
https://jalopnik.com/car-sales-people-have-little-left-to-do-1847884073
Great, put them to work doing something that's not a drain on society.
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Good news for all you poor little flowers who are scared of talking to people in case they say clever words and steal all your money.
https://jalopnik.com/car-sales-people-have-little-left-to-do-1847884073
We could always just transition from a model where they profit directly based on how much they screw people
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https://invoice-pricing.com/home.cfm?
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Great, put them to work doing something that's not a drain on society.
Seconded.
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JE, time to switch your order to this:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/02/ford-unveils-a-custom-electric-pickup-ahead-of-f-150-lightning-.html
(https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106969558-1635881244871All-electric_Ford_F-100_Eluminator_concept_truck_02.jpg?v=1635881288&w=740&h=416)
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https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Tesla_Cybertruck_outside_unveil.jpg/640px-Tesla_Cybertruck_outside_unveil.jpg)(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Tesla_Cybertruck_unveiling.jpg/640px-Tesla_Cybertruck_unveiling.jpg)
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https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Tesla_Cybertruck_outside_unveil.jpg/640px-Tesla_Cybertruck_outside_unveil.jpg)(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Tesla_Cybertruck_unveiling.jpg/640px-Tesla_Cybertruck_unveiling.jpg)
That truck had only one thing not to freak up. Everything else about it is freaking amazing. And he fucked it up making it look like a retarded geometry test. All he had to do was make it look at least below average. Nope, he went full retard.
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It really is atrocious.
The Rivian has grown on me a bit. Still rather have the F-150 though.
(https://i.imgur.com/JRC7Qfe.png)
New electric Chevy pickup is set to be announced soon as well.
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That truck had only one thing not to freak up. Everything else about it is freaking amazing. And he fucked it up making it look like a retarded geometry test. All he had to do was make it look at least below average. Nope, he went full retard.
Think of it as stainless steel origami.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Barcos_de_papel.jpg/320px-Barcos_de_papel.jpg)(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Tesla_Cybertruck_unveiling.jpg/320px-Tesla_Cybertruck_unveiling.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/JRC7Qfe.png)
Weird headlamps
https://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/Little_Orphan_Annie#/media/File:LSAnnie_Sandy.jpg
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https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1476593883219836930?t=s5pbyLguC_idiZ6Q1VH60A&s=19
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https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/01/ford-will-boost-electric-f-150-production-to-150000-trucks-per-year/ (https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/01/ford-will-boost-electric-f-150-production-to-150000-trucks-per-year/)
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https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/01/ford-will-boost-electric-f-150-production-to-150000-trucks-per-year/ (https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/01/ford-will-boost-electric-f-150-production-to-150000-trucks-per-year/)
Awesome news. I had assumed that the very earliest I could get mine would be middle of 2023 but depending on the allocation and demand for Canada, maybe I have a fighting chance of getting it this year.
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This is pretty insane.
https://youtu.be/7pg1hhW5qhM
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This is pretty insane.
https://youtu.be/7pg1hhW5qhM
I was convinced that was a first person view mode from Forza.
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That's a shade under 260 mph, I would be shitting my pants going that fast, even though the other cars are in the right lane.
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https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/06/ford-wants-to-sell-evs-online-only-with-no-dealer-markups-says-ceo-farley/
Good. freak car salesmen. It probably won't happen because car dealers are like cockroaches, but at least there's efforts. I have non-issue with dealerships shifting to repair and maintenance only. But good Lord please make it stop with the retarded jumping-through-hoops, dog and pony show traditional sales process in buying a car.
And yes JE, I know you love it.
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https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/06/ford-wants-to-sell-evs-online-only-with-no-dealer-markups-says-ceo-farley/
Good. freak car salesmen. It probably won't happen because car dealers are like cockroaches, but at least there's efforts. I have non-issue with dealerships shifting to repair and maintenance only. But good Lord please make it stop with the retarded jumping-through-hoops, dog and pony show traditional sales process in buying a car.
And yes JE, I know you love it.
I don't love it, I just don't have this morbid terror that some seem to have of negotiating a deal when I'm the one with all the power.
I'm fine with buying direct, particularly with the current EV market. I'd far rather Ford was determining who gets their order filled and when than my local dealer, which is the position I'm in right now.
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I don't love it, I just don't have this morbid terror that some seem to have of negotiating a deal when I'm the one with all the power.
I'm fine with buying direct, particularly with the current EV market. I'd far rather Ford was determining who gets their order filled and when than my local dealer, which is the position I'm in right now.
I don't have terror, it's anger and annoyance. If there's one thing I hate, it's unnecessary addition of useless steps to what should be a simple process.
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I don't have terror, it's anger and annoyance. If there's one thing I hate, it's unnecessary addition of useless steps to what should be a simple process.
So you just want to pay more in exchange for not having to talk to someone? Because if you think that going direct would mean that the price would drop due to reduced cost of sale on the manufacturers' part, give Puck a call. Something about bridges.
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So you just want to pay more in exchange for not having to talk to someone? Because if you think that going direct would mean that the price would drop due to reduced cost of sale on the manufacturers' part, give Puck a call. Something about bridges.
I would absolutely pay more not to have to:
1- Go to a dealer, be sat down and told a price, tell them what I want to pay, have to watch them go to some back room and talk to a mystery person, come back with a counter offer that is still too high, tell them I'm walking, and have them go back and get a slightly lower price along with some sob story about how they "are barely making any profit at this price. Total time this process takes: 467 hours.
or
2- Call or go to 10 different dealers and tell them my price and that's final. Have none of them call me back or try to haggle me higher and go down the rabbit hole again.
My time is worth more than that. I also admittedly hate arguing altogether and you clearly are into it bigtime, so I am biased. That's cool if you like doing that. I'm not afraid of talking to people, I don't like stupid ordeals. I'm even fine with letting different dealerships sell it for different prices- I just hate the stupidity and dishonesty of the process. Wanna sell more cars? Have a lower price than the guy down the street. That's how most things work. And no, houses aren't the same.
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I would absolutely pay more not to have to:
1- Go to a dealer, be sat down and told a price, tell them what I want to pay, have to watch them go to some back room and talk to a mystery person, come back with a counter offer that is still too high, tell them I'm walking, and have them go back and get a slightly lower price along with some sob story about how they "are barely making any profit at this price. Total time this process takes: 467 hours.
or
2- Call or go to 10 different dealers and tell them my price and that's final. Have none of them call me back or try to haggle me higher and go down the rabbit hole again.
My time is worth more than that. I also admittedly hate arguing altogether and you clearly are into it bigtime, so I am biased. That's cool if you like doing that. I'm even fine with letting different dealerships sell it for different prices- I just hate the stupidity and dishonesty of the process. Wanna sell more cars? Have a lower price than the guy down the street. That's how most things work. And no, houses aren't the same.
I don't see any reason that both options shouldn't exist. Buy direct, pay the price they ask, job done; or go to a dealer, get a better price in exchange for putting up with dealer bullshit. Lots of industries have both direct and indirect channel models.
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i've never had issues negotiating deals with dealers. If there's something i don't like, i walk out....which they'll never let you do.
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I don't see any reason that both options shouldn't exist. Buy direct, pay the price they ask, job done; or go to a dealer, get a better price in exchange for putting up with dealer bullshit. Lots of industries have both direct and indirect channel models.
I'm fine with that too.
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I would absolutely pay more not to have to:
1- Go to a dealer, be sat down and told a price, tell them what I want to pay, have to watch them go to some back room and talk to a mystery person, come back with a counter offer that is still too high, tell them I'm walking, and have them go back and get a slightly lower price along with some sob story about how they "are barely making any profit at this price. Total time this process takes: 467 hours.
or
2- Call or go to 10 different dealers and tell them my price and that's final. Have none of them call me back or try to haggle me higher and go down the rabbit hole again.
My time is worth more than that. I also admittedly hate arguing altogether and you clearly are into it bigtime, so I am biased. That's cool if you like doing that. I'm not afraid of talking to people, I don't like stupid ordeals. I'm even fine with letting different dealerships sell it for different prices- I just hate the stupidity and dishonesty of the process. Wanna sell more cars? Have a lower price than the guy down the street. That's how most things work. And no, houses aren't the same.
Works with hookers too
save time & money: go ugly early
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Works with hookers too
save time & money: go ugly early
Ha, that reminds me of many many years ago when I went on a stag weekend to Amsterdam. On our first day there one of the guys was telling us over a few beers his strategy for how to choose a hooker - always pick the ugliest one in the brothel on the basis that she's likely to be less expensive, less used, and more willing to go the extra mile in the hope of getting a return customer. Still not sure I understand the point of paying to freak an ugly chick, but he was committed to the plan.
FWIW, I did not partake. When it came time to visit the house of ill repute about half of us stayed in the pub. I don't judge anyone for it, but I've never really seen the appeal of sex as a transaction. Combined with a skinful of booze I'm not sure I'd be completely confident of my ability to perform in such a circumstance, and I'm damn sure not dropping cash to find out.
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https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/12/23204950/bmw-subscriptions-microtransactions-heated-seats-feature
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Why would anyone not find this enjoyable?
https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/xju50w/dont_like_it_leave
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https://twitter.com/cooperlund/status/1663253861035909120?t=xftA1wTj6Yyeg4XJxWr8Vw&s=19
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JE's favorite people
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/rich-republicans-party-car-dealers-2024-desantis.html
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Waaaaah I'm scared of talking to people why can't I just do it over text or on a website and I'll pay whatever you ask as long as I don't have to interact with anyone
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Waaaaah I'm scared of talking to people why can't I just do it over text or on a website and I'll pay whatever you ask as long as I don't have to interact with anyone
Weird way to defend parasites.
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Weird way to defend parasites.
What's weird is you choosing this oddly specific hill to make your stand. Why don't you similarly bitch about grocery stores and camping suppliers and hardware stores?
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a3xe9/maryland-license-plates-now-inadvertently-advertising-filipino-online-casino
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What's weird is you choosing this oddly specific hill to make your stand. Why don't you similarly bitch about grocery stores and camping suppliers and hardware stores?
Because different things are different. Car dealerships are uniquely bad.
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https://futurism.com/the-byte/hacker-discovers-elon-mode-tesla-dangerous
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https://futurism.com/the-byte/hacker-discovers-elon-mode-tesla-dangerous
I am so happy that I don't drive.
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I am so happy that I don't drive.
My position on software vs humans when it comes to driving remains unchanged.
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I test drove an F150 Lightning on Friday. It was the Lariat with the extended range battery, so you get the full 563 electric horses. What an absolutely ludicrous machine it is - insanely fast, exceedingly comfortable, packed with smart technology, and dirt cheap to run.
Shame then that even after Ford reduced the prices (we have arrived at a point where the combination of recovering supply chains and rocketing interest rates mean there is now stock of EVs on every forecourt) the sticker price is still over CA$100K, and I'm just not going to shell out that kind of moolah for a truck that I really, really want, but absolutely do not need.
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I test drove an F150 Lightning on Friday. It was the Lariat with the extended range battery, so you get the full 563 electric horses. What an absolutely ludicrous machine it is - insanely fast, exceedingly comfortable, packed with smart technology, and dirt cheap to run.
Shame then that even after Ford reduced the prices (we have arrived at a point where the combination of recovering supply chains and rocketing interest rates mean there is now stock of EVs on every forecourt) the sticker price is still over CA$100K, and I'm just not going to shell out that kind of moolah for a truck that I really, really want, but absolutely do not need.
You lost the negotiation eh
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I test drove an F150 Lightning on Friday. It was the Lariat with the extended range battery, so you get the full 563 electric horses. What an absolutely ludicrous machine it is - insanely fast, exceedingly comfortable, packed with smart technology, and dirt cheap to run.
Shame then that even after Ford reduced the prices (we have arrived at a point where the combination of recovering supply chains and rocketing interest rates mean there is now stock of EVs on every forecourt) the sticker price is still over CA$100K, and I'm just not going to shell out that kind of moolah for a truck that I really, really want, but absolutely do not need.
You lost the negotiation eh
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includes pix of both EVs: https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/tesla-cybertruck-price-interior-release-date-specs-news/
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possibly $ave money (even if you lose friends)
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You lost the negotiation eh
No negotiation to be had, I told him I'd look at the numbers and talk to my wife over the weekend. Emailed him this morning and said "did the numbers, they don't make sense for me, I'll be in touch if anything changes". If he comes back and asks what numbers do make sense I'll probably not insult him with the amount I am willing to pay, because it's not enough to buy that vehicle.
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This is sexy af.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-2025-ford-mustang-gtd-takes-on-the-world-and-might-actually-win
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This is sexy af.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-2025-ford-mustang-gtd-takes-on-the-world-and-might-actually-win
As a card-carrying Chevrolet guy...i hate your post.
Also, that spoiler looks like excrement.
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As a card-carrying Chevrolet guy...i hate your post.
Also, that spoiler looks like excrement.
I've never understood this whole tribal thing around Ford / GM / Chevy. I guess it makes sense if you're into NASCAR but as I have no interest in having sex with my sister it's lost on me.
Unnecessary spoilers look excrement. When you're hitting the kind of speeds that this thing will produce you're going to want all of that downforce.
(https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/ford-mustang-gtd-215-64de23f10b5fa.jpg)
It is a beast.
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I've never understood this whole tribal thing around Ford / GM / Chevy. I guess it makes sense if you're into NASCAR but as I have no interest in having sex with my sister it's lost on me.
Unnecessary spoilers look excrement. When you're hitting the kind of speeds that this thing will produce you're going to want all of that downforce.
(https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/ford-mustang-gtd-215-64de23f10b5fa.jpg)
It is a beast.
I wasn't always tribal about it....until i test drove a brand new mustang in 2002. It was a POS. Some of the worst performance from a supposed sports car i've ever had.
Also, it doesn't look "beastly" to me....it looks like a souped up POS Hyundai Tiburon.
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I've never understood this whole tribal thing around Ford / GM / Chevy. I guess it makes sense if you're into NASCAR but as I have no interest in having sex with my sister it's lost on me.
Unnecessary spoilers look excrement. When you're hitting the kind of speeds that this thing will produce you're going to want all of that downforce.
(https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/ford-mustang-gtd-215-64de23f10b5fa.jpg)
It is a beast.
I've always been a Chevy fan, but I'm with you. I'd sleep in this.
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I wasn't always tribal about it....until i test drove a brand new mustang in 2002. It was a POS. Some of the worst performance from a supposed sports car i've ever had.
Also, it doesn't look "beastly" to me....it looks like a souped up POS Hyundai Tiburon.
All American makers were excrement in 2002.
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https://insideevs.com/news/694929/tesla-cybertruck-matte-black-impressions/?adv=0
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Did anyone else see the Chevy dementia ad?
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Jeep dealer wanted $147 to replace the engine air filter. That sounded expensive, so I declined. $23 on Amazon and 10 minutes work with a socket set, I have now replaced my own air filter.
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Jeep dealer wanted $147 to replace the engine air filter. That sounded expensive, so I declined. $23 on Amazon and 10 minutes work with a socket set, I have now replaced my own air filter.
Is it buried somewhere hard to get to? My engine air filter doesn't require any sockets at all. Just a little clip holding the housing shut.
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Is it buried somewhere hard to get to? My engine air filter doesn't require any sockets at all. Just a little clip holding the housing shut.
Nope, sits on top of the engine bay as you would expect. Four 8mm hex screws and a hose clamp, and that's it.
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I've had a problem with squirrels chewing wires in my truck engine. I'm not much of a mechanic. They chewed through the mass air flow sensor wire right at the connector, so it couldn't be respliced. Had the mechanic repair it for $300 because I was too lazy to see how involved it was. Within a week they chewed through it again. So I hopped on YouTube and figured out it was a $15 part on Amazon that I could just resplice on the wires in correct order. Took me about 30 minutes and I fixed it. I was both proud and feeling like an idiot I didn't do it myself the first time.
I have yet to find anything that prevents these freaking squirrels from doing this. I'm not going to poison them, I like them except when they do this. Plus there a zillion if them. Strong smelling rodent sprays don't seem to work. It's my 3rd vehicle so I don't drive it a ton which is probably the issue. Rodents can chew through anything if they want to, so you could wrap it in steel mesh and they'll get through it. I guess I need to learn to fix things now.
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Is it always the same wire? If so, what's so appealing about that one?
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Is it always the same wire? If so, what's so appealing about that one?
Based on my Internet research, rodents go under the hood for warmth, so they don't tend to sit on hot parts of the engine. They find warm spots and chew what's near that. They are just sharpening their teeth. That wire is on the top part of the engine and it sits right next to the air filter housing which is plastic and likely not hot. It's easy for them to get to. Most of the other wires are deeper in the engine and would require some climbing for them.
I wrapped the crap out of it with electrical tape. I plan on getting some mesh tape too, but it'll be a war of attrition. They can get through whatever I put in there, but I'll try to make it tough enough to where they maybe just decide it isn't worth it.
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Bo should pay and build a garage instead of parking in the nearest forest.
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Bo should pay and build a garage instead of parking in the nearest forest.
How else would I be able to LARP Robin Hood on my own property?
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How else would I be able to LARP Robin Hood on my own property?
Good point
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Based on my Internet research, rodents go under the hood for warmth, so they don't tend to sit on hot parts of the engine. They find warm spots and chew what's near that. They are just sharpening their teeth. That wire is on the top part of the engine and it sits right next to the air filter housing which is plastic and likely not hot. It's easy for them to get to. Most of the other wires are deeper in the engine and would require some climbing for them.
I wrapped the crap out of it with electrical tape. I plan on getting some mesh tape too, but it'll be a war of attrition. They can get through whatever I put in there, but I'll try to make it tough enough to where they maybe just decide it isn't worth it.
Maybe try putting a coating of hot sauce on the wires. Rodents can't stand hot sauce. It's not harmful, they just don't like the taste.
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Maybe try putting a coating of hot sauce on the wires. Rodents can't stand hot sauce. It's not harmful, they just don't like the taste.
I'm thinking about wiping some teriyaki pepperoni on it. Starving rats won't eat that excrement.
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Update: when I was filling my gas tank, I noticed gas leaking from the tank once it was about full. Those freaking squirrels. I know it was them. I'm going to have my truck dipped in ghost peppers to teach those fuckers a lesson.