Jet Offensive
New York Jets Football => ...And The Home Of The Jets => Topic started by: SixFeetDeep on January 15, 2018, 01:28:29 PM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/evanrobertswfan/status/952972235094052864?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eios%7Ctwgr%5Eother
Haaaaaaaaa
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Manish got his own thread?
terrible.
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What the freak is this excrement?
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What the freak is this excrement?
Shut up and fix Seferian-Jenkins' contract. Or give us his phone number and we'll fix it.
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Shut up and fix Seferian-Jenkins' contract. Or give us his phone number and we'll fix it.
I'll get right on that...
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Manish got his own thread?
terrible.
Manish had 6 other threads on this forum before I started this one. Either Badger goes nazi on me or the peanut gallery complains, I really don’t give a freak at this point
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/relax-jets-fans-doug-marrone-wasn-save-franchise-article-1.3757872
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/01/15/listen-joe-b-daily-news-mehta-go-at-it-over-marrone-and-bowles/
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The warped segment of Jets fans wallowing in misery followed another fairy tale pushed by Doug Marrone’s eternal apologists in the wake of the Jaguars’ divisional round win in Pittsburgh Sunday.
This dude starts making excrement up when he gets bored at work just so he has something to “write” about.
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Manish had 6 other threads on this forum before I started this one. Either Badger goes nazi on me or the peanut gallery complains, I really don’t give a freak at this point
I will cut you
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Manish had 6 other threads on this forum before I started this one. Either Badger goes nazi on me or the peanut gallery complains, I really don’t give a freak at this point
1. This is fine.
2. My opinion matters more than theirs.
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1. This is fine.
2. My opinion matters more than theirs.
your opinion is 4th in the rankings....behind mine, JE and junc.
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your opinion is 4th in the rankings....behind mine, JE and junc.
I always defer to Obergruppenfuhrer Badger when it comes to matters of filing.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/955202248098877441?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eios%7Ctwgr%5Eother
Worst.
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RIP junc
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https://mobile.twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/971898103505850368
In case it’s deleted:
Wilkerson is getting some terrible advice. The last place he should be near given his issues with alcohol is Bourbon Street/French Quarter. Who is advising this guy?
Re: Wilkerson visiting Saints
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Manish live on the FAN now. They called him out immediately
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Manish is claiming Wilkerson showed up drunk to practice 2 years ago. “I’ve alluded to this in my writings in the past.”
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Says he was known to have issues with alcohol pre-draft and during his time with the Jets. Not once has Manish given concrete evidence or examples of anything he’s claimed today
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Boomer is going in on Mehta. Says if he was a Jet player now he would never talk to him. Says this was a personal attack on Wilkerson.
Mehta says what he said is “widely known within the Jets organization”.
“I’ve alluded to this in my writings”
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TIL alcohol only exists in New Orleans and NY.
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Manish lies through his teeth for 10 minutes straight but confirms what we all know: Manish has a personal vendetta against Wilkerson because Wilkerson stopped talking to him after Manish sandbagged him in multiple articles.
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Now Boomer is reporting that Wilkerson tried to get on the air today to go after Mehta and eventually backed off after Boomer advised against it.
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Now Boomer is reporting that Wilkerson tried to get on the air today to go after Mehta and eventually backed off after Boomer advised against it.
Sloppy fightz
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
This is the surreal life: Mo Wilkerson’s mom is now calling in to @WFAN660 to yell at @MMehtaNYDN and his critiques of her son. #freeagentfrenzy
Bahahahaha!!!!
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/ad2fba20d3a84bb7f573c8caf609f7ae/tenor.gif)
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Manish was right about Wilkerson being out of shape and terrible...
What he’s doing is completely unprofessional and pointless especially now that Wilk is gone.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/971898103505850368
In case it’s deleted:
Re: Wilkerson visiting Saints
What is this? What the hell did Wilk do to Manish? This is personal.
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What is this? What the hell did Wilk do to Manish? This is personal.
He put a jihad on him.
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Well, the Indians and Pakistanis are bitter enemies.....
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Well, the Indians and Pakistanis are bitter enemies.....
They're both American.....
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They're both American.....
It was a joke.
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Wow, Manish has gone overboard. This is the type of thing that can get a guy fired. It wasn't enough to be "proven right" about Wilkerson, now he has to talk about a guy's personal issues (if there even exist alcohol "issues" beyond "Dude stayed out partying a bit too hard last night")?
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I was actually up with the radio on this morning too, because of no electricity, but I wasn't listening to sports radio.
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I was actually up with the radio on this morning too, because of no electricity, but I wasn't listening to sports radio.
#coolstorybro
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#coolstorybro
F*ck you and your f*cking Jets too, I didn't miss that one.
The f*cking Jets.
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I was actually up with the radio on this morning too, because of no electricity, but I wasn't listening to sports radio.
Gay porn is on the radio now? What a world...
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https://www.change.org/p/jets-fans-ban-manish-mehta-from-the-jets-locker-room
Lol because these things always work
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Manish is a me-first reporter who is mostly concerned with promoting his own career and his own agenda, but he tends to have more of an insight into the inner workings of the Jets more than most reporters.
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
This is the surreal life: Mo Wilkerson’s mom is now calling in to @WFAN660 to yell at @MMehtaNYDN and his critiques of her son. #freeagentfrenzy
Bahahahaha!!!!
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/ad2fba20d3a84bb7f573c8caf609f7ae/tenor.gif)
Big E is the freaking man.
GIVEHIMTHEBELTVINCE! GIVEHIMTHEBELT!
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https://www.facebook.com/wfan660/videos/10155000806617202/
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manish is a bitch
the only reason why he's able to have any say over wilk is because wilkerson suffered an injury that he was never able to come back from. prior to it he was one of the most dominant DL in the league and he'll never be the same, but manish is acting like he got one over him
the type of excrement he's pulling now is excrement you wouldn't even see from hormonal teenage girls. the only way he'll ever understand there are consequences to bitchery like this is if he gets bent over like that fucked up white dude at the end of pulp fiction
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The injury has a lot to do with the decline in ability, but his effort was pee poor in a most games and he also had some pretty terrible character off of it. He was supposed to be a team leader but he was the complete opposite of that.
Mehta is a joke, but I'm also glad that Wilkerson is gone.
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The injury has a lot to do with the decline in ability, but his effort was pee poor in a most games and he also had some pretty terrible character off of it. He was supposed to be a team leader but he was the complete opposite of that.
Mehta is a joke, but I'm also glad that Wilkerson is gone.
no qualms from me, letting go of wilk was the right thing to do
i'm just not giving manish credit for anything
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I wonder how much of his garbage is related to the paper he works for. Wonder if he gets so much pressure for controversy and clicks that he has to do excrement like this. Or he could just be a douche.
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Brian Costello is a fat, whiny bitch. We really do have the worst beat in the NFL.
These guys are so bad, they've made Rich Cimini look competent.
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Gary Myers can freak off too.
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Hobbes is easily the best beat reporter in NY
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Pretty sure Wilk is suing the NYDN and Manish Mehta for defamation
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Pretty sure Wilk is suing the NYDN and Manish Mehta for defamation
I hope he wins, they fire Mehta and then he can never work again in Jets journalism.
But that he goes to the Boston Globe to become the Patriots beat writer who breaks the story about Brady's gay butt sex with Bellicheck in the cold tub in Foxboro
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Manish's take on the Cousins' drama leading up to his signing with Minny...interesting read if true.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/details-happened-kirk-cousins-jets-article-1.3877087?utm_content=buffer24c3e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=mmehta+twitter
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Manish's take on the Cousins' drama leading up to his signing with Minny...interesting read if true.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/details-happened-kirk-cousins-jets-article-1.3877087?utm_content=buffer24c3e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=mmehta+twitter
I wonder what FA's we lost out on bc of Cousins *according to Manish*
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I wonder what FA's we lost out on bc of Cousins *according to Manish*
I guess you look at the ones who went early and figure which of those we might have been interested in but didn't have a chance to negotiate with because we were waiting on him. The only ones I can really see fitting the bill there are Robinson, Watkins and Keenum.
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Manish's take on the Cousins' drama leading up to his signing with Minny...interesting read if true.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/details-happened-kirk-cousins-jets-article-1.3877087?utm_content=buffer24c3e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=mmehta+twitter
That's infuriating. I hope Cousins falls flat on his face in Minnesota.
I wonder what FA's we lost out on bc of Cousins *according to Manish*
It may not be guys they necessarily missed out that have already been signed. It could also be guys who they couldn't commit to who have made visits elsewhere that they could have locked up early instead.
And who knows, maybe they'd have given ASJ or Davis a contract if they'd known Cousins was out earlier?
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Jets brass & Baker Mayfield ordered the smoked salmon flatbread appetizer at dinner tonight. Then, the Heisman Trophy winner enjoyed the filet mignon, while Christopher Johnson indulged in the flat iron steak. Maybe. #TMI
Wow Manish is so knowledgeable and well connected #Maybe
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Wow Manish is so knowledgeable and well connected #Maybe
"Mayfield also ordered 47 appetizers and was too drunk to divide up the bill after 2 Zimas."
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Wow Manish is so knowledgeable and well connected #Maybe
ribeye >> filet mignon
Bust.
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ribeye >> filet mignon
Bust.
Bone-in, yes.
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Bone-in, yes.
Bones only make a difference to flavour when you're roasting. Grilling and pan frying are way too fast as cooking methods to enable the marrow to impart any more flavour to the meat.
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Bones only make a difference to flavour when you're roasting. Grilling and pan frying are way too fast as cooking methods to enable the marrow to impart any more flavour to the meat.
You also lose some of the tissue when you cut it from the bone before cooking it, even grilling or pan-frying. Even if you cut it away cleanly, that's extra surface area of the meat to burn during cooking. And personally, I eat, and enjoy, the fat on a ribeye.
I always order bone-in ribeye whenever it's available where I'm eating.
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Anyway, since this is a Manish thread, here's one his trademark fluff pieces. It makes Rosen sound like a really good person.
https://nydn.us/2qmC4KB (https://nydn.us/2qmC4KB)
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You also lose some of the tissue when you cut it from the bone before cooking it, even grilling or pan-frying. Even if you cut it away cleanly, that's extra surface area of the meat to burn during cooking. And personally, I eat, and enjoy, the fat on a ribeye.
I always order bone-in ribeye whenever it's available where I'm eating.
Huh? How do you lose the fat? The only thing between the bone and meat is a layer of connective tissue.
If you cook a steak with the bone in then it doesn't cook evenly - the meat next to the bone is less cooked because the bone keeps it cooler. As a result, you can only get that meat to a good level of cooked by overcooking the rest of the steak.
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Huh? How do you lose the fat? The only thing between the bone and meat is a layer of connective tissue.
If you cook a steak with the bone in then it doesn't cook evenly - the meat next to the bone is less cooked because the bone keeps it cooler. As a result, you can only get that meat to a good level of cooked by overcooking the rest of the steak.
I didn't say you lost the fat at the bone. I said "tissue." It's like you purposely ignore the exact words I write.
I like the less cooked meat closer to the bone. No pun intended, but I rarely have eaten any steak that was "too undercooked" for me.
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I didn't say you lost the fat at the bone. I said "tissue." It's like you purposely ignore the exact words I write.
I like the less cooked meat closer to the bone. No pun intended, but I rarely have eaten any steak that was "too undercooked" for me.
I'm much the same - I'll generally have a filet blue - but a ribeye needs to be cooked right to be optimum. I would generally have a ribeye cooked medium rare, which would leave the meat next to the bone a little undercooked IMO.
Obviously it's a matter of personal taste, and it's not for me to criticise yours simply for being wrong.
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I'm much the same - I'll generally have a filet blue - but a ribeye needs to be cooked right to be optimum. I would generally have a ribeye cooked medium rare, which would leave the meat next to the bone a little undercooked IMO.
Obviously it's a matter of personal taste, and it's not for me to criticise yours simply for being wrong.
Hahahaha, well done. (Yeah, that was intended.)
I like that slight undercooked flavor at the end. I know, it's not the "right" way to eat it, but I enjoy the flavor.
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Flat iron steaks are underrated.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jcunninghamnfl/status/1045058234111995904
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https://mobile.twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1046856150501744640
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https://mobile.twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1046856150501744640
Hahaha, I love this in the replies:
Is there anything we can do to inflame the situation?
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Manish is really pumping Bell's tires.
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Manish is really pumping Bell's tires.
Who else do you want to spend the money on?
Bell is an elite talent
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Who else do you want to spend the money on?
Bell is an elite talent
Is he though? i think his oline is elite. James Conner proved that. You know the HB position isn't a premium position.
Is he going to sit out every season in which he doesn't think he's fairly paid? the guy gave up 14.5 million to preserve his body. Dude, you play football.
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the guy gave up 14.5 million to preserve his body.
This is what I don't understand. How is he ever going to make that money back no matter how good a deal he gets? This is his prime and he just wasted a full year of earning potential. I'm thinking maybe he's not that smart.
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This is what I don't understand. How is he ever going to make that money back no matter how good a deal he gets? This is his prime and he just wasted a full year of earning potential. I'm thinking maybe he's not that smart.
If we had a solid oline, i'd be all for signing him. My fear is that the oline is ignored in the offseason, and we have this high priced HB in our backfield averaging 3 yards per carry in 2019.
It may not play out like that, but the Jets don't have a history of smart decision making....so it's hard to take a glass is half full approach to this scenario. To be honest, i still can't believe we drafted Darnold.
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This is what I don't understand. How is he ever going to make that money back no matter how good a deal he gets? This is his prime and he just wasted a full year of earning potential. I'm thinking maybe he's not that smart.
He thinks he will get more than 14.5 mil guaranteed on his contract. He'd rather sit out and lose out on that amount to protect himself from possibly getting injured on that deal and never getting a big payday.
Receivers are making 18 mil a year. How can you blame him
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Is he though? i think his oline is elite.
It's not either-or, necessarily. But I'm mostly on the same page with you. Bell's patient running style wouldn't be nearly as effective behind our line. His receiving and blitz pickup abilities are excellent though, and those would be extremely helpful.
As long as we don't run empty backfield sets all season.
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Multiple things can be true:
- Bell is an elite talent
- Someone is going to overpay him this spring
- He's smart for holding out and not getting hurt thereby losing a lot more than $14M
- Behind the current Jets offensive line, he won't be nearly as productive as in Pittsburgh
- He'd still be a fantastic weapon to add around Darnold
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Multiple things can be true:
- Bell is an elite talent
- Someone is going to overpay him this spring
- He's smart for holding out and not getting hurt thereby losing a lot more than $14M
- Behind the current Jets offensive line, he won't be nearly as productive as in Pittsburgh
- He'd still be a fantastic weapon to add around Darnold
Good post
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Good post
I accidentally post one every once in a while.
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It's not either-or, necessarily. But I'm mostly on the same page with you. Bell's patient running style wouldn't be nearly as effective behind our line. His receiving and blitz pickup abilities are excellent though, and those would be extremely helpful.
As long as we don't run empty backfield sets all season.
We're on the same page.
I've been chatting with Heismanberg offline, and he mentioned the same tangibles you did in your post (receiving skills and blitz pickups), and those are legit selling features. But are they worth paying top dollar for when our oline is a pile of dogshit?
Bell is a luxury we certainly can afford fiscally. But the supporting cast isn't there yet.
Are people still going to be pumped for signing him if he's averaging 2.5 yards behind our oline?
One way to get around that is to fire your coach and bring in a better offensive scheme/system.
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One way to get around that is to fire your coach and bring in a better offensive scheme/system.
You don't like the 2 yard straight ahead handoff on first down 4 out of every 5 times?
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You don't like the 2 yard straight ahead handoff on first down 4 out of every 5 times?
You must, because you want our coaching staff to hang around for a decade before holding them accountable.
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You must, because you want our coaching staff to hang around for a decade before holding them accountable.
Not when they haven't proven anything. The last two got us to the playoffs.
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We're on the same page.
I've been chatting with Heismanberg offline, and he mentioned the same tangibles you did in your post (receiving skills and blitz pickups), and those are legit selling features. But are they worth paying top dollar for when our oline is a pile of dogshit?
Bell is a luxury we certainly can afford fiscally. But the supporting cast isn't there yet.
Are people still going to be pumped for signing him if he's averaging 2.5 yards behind our oline?
One way to get around that is to fire your coach and bring in a better offensive scheme/system.
You can't underestimate blitz pickups--especially with the line that this team has. We all want to protect Darnold at all costs, right? Well, here's a cost.
Then you add him in as a potential target in the passing game, and his value to Darnold increases more.
Obviously, they need to spend on the offensive line wherever they can, but there won't be enough available players to spend it all. Bell is a great place to dump some excess cash.
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Obviously, they need to spend on the offensive line wherever they can, but there won't be enough available players to spend it all. Bell is a great place to dump some excess cash.
I still think we're putting the cart before the horse. I won't be mad if we get Bell, i will be however if we don't improve the oline significantly and it ends up being a waste of money.
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I still think we're putting the cart before the horse. I won't be mad if we get Bell, i will be however if we don't improve the oline significantly and it ends up being a waste of money.
The key thing is, you're only putting the cart before the horse if you sign Bell with money you could have spent on a quality offensive lineman.
I don't know who is going to be available, but I'd say there probably aren't going to be 2 very good guards and an elite left tackle and center available in free agency. At least a couple of replacements will have to come from the draft.
The real question is how they'd design the contract. I'd want to front-load a Bell deal with an out in 3 or 4 years.
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The key thing is, you're only putting the cart before the horse if you sign Bell with money you could have spent on a quality offensive lineman.
I don't know who is going to be available, but I'd say there probably aren't going to be 2 very good guards and an elite left tackle and center available in free agency. At least a couple of replacements will have to come from the draft.
The real question is how they'd design the contract. I'd want to front-load a Bell deal with an out in 3 or 4 years.
the other workaround is installing a better offensive scheme.
I agree about the front loading.
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The key thing is, you're only putting the cart before the horse if you sign Bell with money you could have spent on a quality offensive lineman.
I don't know who is going to be available, but I'd say there probably aren't going to be 2 very good guards and an elite left tackle and center available in free agency. At least a couple of replacements will have to come from the draft.
The real question is how they'd design the contract. I'd want to front-load a Bell deal with an out in 3 or 4 years.
This free agent class for offensive lineman is dogshit. There isn't an elite left tackle in the bunch.
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This free agent class for offensive lineman is dogshit. There isn't an elite left tackle in the bunch.
They don't tend to hit FA unless they're old or injured. I firmly believe that you don't buy lines, you draft them. And I'm told this isn't a good class.
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the other workaround is installing a better offensive scheme.
I agree about the front loading.
Scheme can only help you so much. The players have to play. Still, this team needs better design/playcalling. No arguments there.
This free agent class for offensive lineman is dogshit. There isn't an elite left tackle in the bunch.
Yeah, they're not acquiring an elite (or even very good) LT via free agency. My hope is that a guard or two will shake loose and they can sign them. Tackle and center need to be addressed in the draft.
That said, I think Beechum isn't that bad. He's not elite, but he's had some good enough games that he's an okay placeholder while trying to draft a replacement. I'm still not convinced with Shell, but others like him, so I'm willing to wait and see with him too.
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The key thing is, you're only putting the cart before the horse if you sign Bell with money you could have spent on a quality offensive lineman.
I don't know who is going to be available, but I'd say there probably aren't going to be 2 very good guards and an elite left tackle and center available in free agency. At least a couple of replacements will have to come from the draft.
The real question is how they'd design the contract. I'd want to front-load a Bell deal with an out in 3 or 4 years.
We need to do anything and everything that we can to help Sam Darnold. If there are no lineman worth paying, you do your best to surround him with playmakers. Do everything you can to provide the best options to him. Bell is undoubtedly an attractive option. It's not often elite talents in their prime at any position come available. If you bring him in, you have to understand it's an overpay and he will never produce to the level of his pay, let alone exceed it. But if you want to build a playoff team, you need big time playmakers, and Bell will be the most proven guy on the market, bar none.
I'm in the camp of "go get him." Get an elite pass rusher in the draft (finally) and then we spend our FA money on offensive pieces. Draft a few mid round OL with our 3s and 4. Hope to get lucky.
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We need to do anything and everything that we can to help Sam Darnold. If there are no lineman worth paying, you do your best to surround him with playmakers. Do everything you can to provide the best options to him. Bell is undoubtedly an attractive option. It's not often elite talents in their prime at any position come available. If you bring him in, you have to understand it's an overpay and he will never produce to the level of his pay, let alone exceed it. But if you want to build a playoff team, you need big time playmakers, and Bell will be the most proven guy on the market, bar none.
I'm in the camp of "go get him." Get an elite pass rusher in the draft (finally) and then we spend our FA money on offensive pieces. Draft a few mid round OL with our 3s and 4. Hope to get lucky.
I agree with every word of this post.
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I really hope we wouldn't have to count on Bell running behind our current OLine next season.
With the cap space we'll have that should be an easy upgrade.
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I'd rather get tevin coleman and spend money elsewhere
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I'd rather get tevin coleman and spend money elsewhere
I'd be fine with Mark Ingram too.
But we do need to start surrounding Darnold with better weapons like Bell. Despite not having a functional oline.
Firing Bowles and hiring the "right" coach/staff to replace him... is the key cog in all of this.
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I'd rather get tevin coleman and spend money elsewhere
We have so much money though.
Some of you are acting like we’re backed up against the wall and have some sort of limited budget.
We can sign Bell and a lot of other good players as well.
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And that’s how bad teams stay bad. Just because you have a lot of money doesn’t exercise the right to give out bad contracts. This is also based on me being convinced Bell will be washed up if he suits up for us or anyone else in 2019. I don’t think we see the Leveon Bell of old ever again.
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I think LeVeon still can be a stud, and given the lack of talent at positions of clear need (o-line, receiver, corner) I would have no problem with them extending a Godfather offer.
Come out of this free agency with a pass rusher (or two, freak it), and a back. Hope that we can solve the o-line issue in the first round.
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I think LeVeon still can be a stud, and given the lack of talent at positions of clear need (o-line, receiver, corner) I would have no problem with them extending a Godfather offer.
Come out of this free agency with a pass rusher (or two, freak it), and a back. Hope that we can solve the o-line issue in the first round.
Physically maybe he has the ability, but I think he checked out mentally in August of this year, if not sooner.
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I'd rather have an UDFA rb and spend every penny on the line instead of helping Bell win the lottery.
Dude is talented and still elite, but full rebuilding teams don't need to invest heavily in older backs.
Look at the Giants who have probably the best wr/te/rb tandem in the league. Yet that team is a freaking hot mess. Barkley didn't transform that offense, he's just an extremely talented player whose talents will be wasted on a trash team. Signing Bell would be akin to the Giants drafting Barkley a shortsighted waste
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I'd rather have an UDFA rb and spend every penny on the line instead of helping Bell win the lottery.
Dude is talented and still elite, but full rebuilding teams don't need to invest heavily in older backs.
Look at the Giants who have probably the best wr/te/rb tandem in the league. Yet that team is a freaking hot mess. Barkley didn't transform that offense, he's just an extremely talented player whose talents will be wasted on a trash team. Signing Bell would be akin to the Giants drafting Barkley a shortsighted waste
"Older"? He's 26.
As for the Giants comparison, while both teams have shoddy offensive lines, one of them has a QB whose career is winding down so they took a gamble, the other has a brand new one who needs weapons.
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"Older"? He's 26.
And he's just had a year off. Running backs are measured in yards, not years.
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And that’s how bad teams stay bad. Just because you have a lot of money doesn’t exercise the right to give out bad contracts. This is also based on me being convinced Bell will be washed up if he suits up for us or anyone else in 2019. I don’t think we see the Leveon Bell of old ever again.
nobody knows what Bell will get. I'd bet he doesn't get what he really wants though.
My guess is Bell gets $25 million guaranteed, on a 5 year deal maxed at $70 million dollars. He sees 70% of that if he's still elite, and 35% of that just by existing.
If that's the deal he gets, we should be excited about him in Green. Especially since we seem to structure most deals as basically get out of jail free after 3 years.
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nobody knows what Bell will get. I'd bet he doesn't get what he really wants though.
My guess is Bell gets $25 million guaranteed, on a 5 year deal maxed at $70 million dollars. He sees 70% of that if he's still elite, and 35% of that just by existing.
If that's the deal he gets, we should be excited about him in Green.
If you think Bell inks that deal you’re out of your freaking mind
He just left 15 million on the table in search of a new deal. Try doubling some of your numbers
https://mobile.twitter.com/LeVeonBell/status/959148361742864384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-1948548401734458177.ampproject.net%2F1811091519050%2Fframe.html
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If you think Bell inks that deal you’re out of your freaking mind
He just left 15 million on the table in search of a new deal. Try doubling some of your numbers
https://mobile.twitter.com/LeVeonBell/status/959148361742864384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-1948548401734458177.ampproject.net%2F1811091519050%2Fframe.html
What team is crazy enough to give him 50 mill guaranteed 140 million total over 10 years?
Bell thinks he can get more... but I don’t think he’s going to.
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What team is crazy enough to give him 50 mill guaranteed 140 million total over 10 years?
Bell thinks he can get more... but I don’t think he’s going to.
Maybe not 10 years and 140 total but I can see 50 million guaranteed for sure. Gurley got 4 years 60 with 45 guaranteed - that’s your starting point.
I’m gonna guess 5 years 80 million with 50+ GTD
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I think you have to start with his market. Who's got the cap space and the need?
Colts: got the money but seem to be in on Mack, definitely a possibility
Bills: Shady is 30 but has another year on his contract, I can't see them cutting him and there's no way they'd have Bell as well
Browns: Chubb is their guy and they have a bunch of young players needing to get paid in the next couple of years
Raiders: Lynch is done, Martin might be their guy, who the freak knows with Chucky's circus
Texans: Miller is decent and not too expensive, Bell might be an option
49ers: Breida / Mostert / Morris are definitely not the answer
Cardinals: Bell would be the second best back on this roster
Bengals: Mixon and Bernard have things all locked up
Cowboys: Zeke is their guy
Broncos: running backs are chopped liver, definitely an option
Titans: no need to replace Henry
Packers: Aaron Jones is not elite
The rest: not enough cap space
So I'd say that based on that the market is the Jets, Niners, Broncos and Packers, with the Colts, Raiders and Texans possibilities.
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49ers: Breida / Mostert / Morris are definitely not the answer
Jerrick McKinnon is on IR.
Broncos: running backs are chopped liver, definitely an option
Phillip Lyndsay's been very good.
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^Royce Freeman has looked good too. Plus they have Case Keemun at 21 mill cap hit, or 10 mill dead cap if they cut him. Prob less likely to throw money at Bell until they have a long term solution in place
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Jerrick McKinnon is on IR.
Phillip Lyndsay's been very good.
Completely forgot about McKinnon. Not convinced by Lyndsay, Denver have a way of making average backs look better than they are q.v. CJ Anderson. I think they'd have interest in an elite talent.
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Manish... shut the freak up
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Manish is a freaking maroon. Why throw needless gas on the fire?
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Manish is a freaking maroon. Why throw needless gas on the fire?
His job is to sell stories, not make Jets fans happy.
The Daily News is all about sensational headlines. After their layoffs, this actually became the core of Manish's job.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure, of all teams, the Pats need the least additional motivation to kick the Jets in the teeth.
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His job is to sell stories, not make Jets fans happy.
The Daily News is all about sensational headlines. After their layoffs, this actually became the core of Manish's job.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure, of all teams, the Pats need the least additional motivation to kick the Jets in the teeth.
Needing to sell papers doesn't make it any less retarded.
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Needing to sell papers doesn't make it any less retarded.
How can you possibly argue that
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Anyway, I'm pretty sure, of all teams, the Pats need the least additional motivation to kick the Jets in the teeth.
They're also coming off a loss and a bye, so, great spot for us.
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They're also coming off a loss and a bye, so, great spot for us.
Gronk hasn't caught a TD since week 1. When he catches 4 TDs this Sunday, i expect someone from the board to burn Manish's house to the ground.
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Gronk hasn't caught a TD since week 1. When he catches 4 TDs this Sunday, i expect someone from the board to burn Manish's house to the ground.
Can't, I'll be busy robbing Gronkowski's house.
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And that’s how bad teams stay bad. Just because you have a lot of money doesn’t exercise the right to give out bad contracts. This is also based on me being convinced Bell will be washed up if he suits up for us or anyone else in 2019. I don’t think we see the Leveon Bell of old ever again.
Bad teams stay bad by drafting poorly and by having bad coaches and no quarterback. The jets hit the trifecta. Hopefully Sam answers the third question.
As a result of our bad drafting, we have nobody homegrown to really pay. That's why we have to pay free agents instead. It isnt ideal but it is the situation we are in.
Hoarding money does us little good either.
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How can you possibly argue that
I'd argue nobody bought the paper because of that stupid story.
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sports-maccagnan-bowles-jets-relationship-mehta-20181206-story.html
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sports-maccagnan-bowles-jets-relationship-mehta-20181206-story.html
Manish actually made a somewhat convincing argument there. I'd still fire Maccagnan, but there was definitely too much nonsense going on behind the scenes. 2 years to the playoffs or bust would be the absolute minimum expectation though.
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And where is JE?
A recent study by overthecap.com revealed Maccagnan’s record in four drafts versus the rest of the league. Only 64.3 percent of players drafted by the Jets from 2015-2018 are still on an active NFL roster. The Titans are the only team with a lower percentage. The league average during that span is 76 percent. (On the other end of the spectrum, the Chiefs have a league-high 87 percent of their drafted players on an NFL roster).
A round-by-round breakdown reveals exactly how much Maccagnan has struggled in Rounds 2-5. Although all four of his first-round picks (including three in the Top 6 overall) are playing, the Jets have been far below the league average in each of the next four rounds.
Only 33 percent of Maccagnan’s second-rounders are on an NFL roster. The league average for second-rounders from 2015-18: 92 percent.
Only 50 percent of his third-rounders are on any active roster. The league average: 84 percent.
Only 50 percent of his fourth-rounders are on any active roster. The league average: 82 percent.
Only 50 percent of his fifth-rounders are on any active roster. The league average: 75 percent.
The Jets did, however, exceed the league averages with their sixth- and seventh-rounders.
Maccagnan hasn't even been close to average. His drafts have been atrocious from a team-building standpoint. Again, if you exclude his first-rounders, he's drafted very little of worth at all. Clearly, according to the article, it wasn't all his fault, but they're still his picks.
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Clearly, according to the article, it wasn't all his fault, but they're still his picks.
Were they all his picks? Hack was, but the article suggests that some of the draft picks weren't guys he would have taken, but the coaches pushed for them. He's still responsible for them being picked because he handed in the card on draft day, but his ability to identify good players may not be as bad as the record shows. He might be really shitty at his job if this article is bullshit. Who knows....
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There's also the fact that a player's first couple of years in the NFL are instrumental to learning the skills needed to make a career in the big time. I find it very easy to believe that this coaching staff have fucked up at least a few players who could have been NFL vets if they'd been put on a different track.
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A list of prospective coaches that want to walk into this situation:
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However much blame you want to split between Maccagnan and Bowles' staff, it doesn't change that Maccagnan has had final say on every roster decision. If coaches asked for players, it was up to Maccagnan to decide whether his information warranted the pick.
2 more years of Maccagnan is a long time. Because it's not just 2 years. If he fails, it's 2 years plus 3 for the next GM to come in and rebuild the roster. Again. That's the first 6 years of Darnold's career.
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There's also the fact that a player's first couple of years in the NFL are instrumental to learning the skills needed to make a career in the big time. I find it very easy to believe that this coaching staff have fucked up at least a few players who could have been NFL vets if they'd been put on a different track.
Idk, guys like Devin Smith, Mauldin, Hackenberg, Dylan Donohue, Ardarius Stewart, Chad Hansen aren’t getting on the field elsewhere with better coaches. They may have just been bad picks.
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Idk, guys like Devin Smith, Mauldin, Hackenberg, Dylan Donohue, Ardarius Stewart, Chad Hansen aren’t getting on the field elsewhere with better coaches. They may have just been bad picks.
We know Stewart was Morton’s pick
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We know Stewart was Morton’s pick
All of the bad players were non-Macc picks
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All of the bad players were non-Macc picks
If they don't fire him, that's what I'll assume just to be happy. Until they fire him in 2 years, then I'll bash him.
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The problem is... if we don't fire him now, we can't fire him in two years unless we also fire his handpicked head coach... unless we want to find ourselves in another John Idzik situation...
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I genuinely believe there's more risk in retaining Maccagnan at this point because if he proves that he really is this shitty at drafting players outside the top-6 then we really are going to be up excrement creek without a paddle in a couple years.
If we hire someone new, the greatest risk is that he doesn't exceed the low bar that's been set for him by the previous administration.
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The problem is... if we don't fire him now, we can't fire him in two years unless we also fire his handpicked head coach... unless we want to find ourselves in another John Idzik situation...
2 years is plenty of time for the new coach to show his own derriere the door.
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The problem is... if we don't fire him now, we can't fire him in two years unless we also fire his handpicked head coach... unless we want to find ourselves in another John Idzik situation...
This has been my main point the whole time. We’re much better off taking this opportunity to clean house than hoping Macc turns it around during Darnold’s developmental years.
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2 years is plenty of time for the new coach to show his own derriere the door.
Jets fans will be calling for his head by week 2 2019
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This sunday from Manish:
“Mike Maccagnan never wanted Darron Lee. Todd Bowles held him at gunpoint and forced the pick”
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If the coach reported to the GM instead of the owner...like in a normal corporate structure, this excrement wouldn’t happen.
Bowels and Duff need to be lit on fire.
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If the coach reported to the GM instead of the owner...like in a normal corporate structure, this excrement wouldn’t happen.
Wait, do you think Bowles forced Maccagnan to draft Darron Lee?
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Wait, do you think Bowles forced Maccagnan to draft Darron Lee?
We'll, he did have a gun. What choice did he have?
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If the coach reported to the GM instead of the owner...like in a normal corporate structure, this excrement wouldn’t happen.
Bowels and Duff need to be lit on fire.
The Jets should have a fan poll on their website to choose the next GM and coach. That would be hilarious to see who we end up with. Spin the wheel!
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Wait, do you think Bowles forced Maccagnan to draft Darron Lee?
Anything is possible in this shitshow
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This has been my main point the whole time. We’re much better off taking this opportunity to clean house than hoping Macc turns it around during Darnold’s developmental years.
Exactly. Me as well.
Even if you can the new regime in 2 years, you're sacrificing at least the first 4 years of Darnold's career: this season, the next two, then at least the first for the next new regime while they restructure.
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Per a league source, the Jets are unified on their approach to the soon-to-be-former Steelers standout. The source strongly disputed the report from Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News suggesting that a schism exists within organization regarding Bell.
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Jets fans should be excited about Pro Bowl LBs Anthony Barr & CJ Mosley... but NYJ is only in this position because of consistently poor drafting... by Maccagnan & others.
Consider 2014:
No. 9: Barr
No. 17: Mosley
No. 18: Jets take Calvin Pryor
Great reporting Manish!
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Great reporting Manish!
So in other words likely two guys we wanted but couldn’t take because they were already drafted? Excellent reporting numbnuts
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Great reporting Manish!
does he not realize how stupid he looks/sounds?
that makes zero fvcking sense
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https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1109545239935676416
Awful. This guy does this all the time to sucker fans into paying attention to him, thinking he’s going to break news only to drop a nothingburger puff piece.
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“How the Jets landed Tom Compton”
by Manish Mehta
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This guy has somehow gotten worse recently
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This guy has somehow gotten worse recently
Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN
Jets should extend this gesture to their fans: Free exchanges for all Sam Darnold & Chris Herndon jerseys bought last year.
Those were the 2 top-selling jerseys from NYJ’s 2018 rookie class.
Now they’re outdated.
Let those fans get the new Darnold & Herndon jerseys
I don't understand this mentality. Won't it be more impressive to wear a Herndon jersey from his rookie year, before he "made it"? I've got my Darnold from August and I'll proudly rock it for the next 30 years.
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I don't understand this mentality. Won't it be more impressive to wear a Herndon jersey from his rookie year, before he "made it"? I've got my Darnold from August and I'll proudly rock it for the next 30 years.
I don't know if Herndon/Darnold are the best examples for the reason you just said, but in general, the fact that they give away these Jets jerseys to all these celebrities and then nickel and dime season ticket holders for everything is a joke. If anyone deserves free jerseys, it's season-ticket holders.
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Nobody “deserves” free jerseys. They gave the jerseys to celebrities and media members for marketing purposes. When these people share with their audiences on air or social media how cool they think the jersey looks, that’s great natural advertising for the Jets. Their only goal here (along with the entire jersey redesign campaign) is to sell more jerseys.
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I don't understand this mentality. Won't it be more impressive to wear a Herndon jersey from his rookie year, before he "made it"? I've got my Darnold from August and I'll proudly rock it for the next 30 years.
I feel the same exact way.
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Lmao
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(http://i67.tinypic.com/dy3o2d.jpg)
Lmao
And before you say "yeah but Manish", he may be a rooster but he's right more often than most care to admit.
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Boomer Esiason just said Manish’s source was Brian Heimerdinger
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He’s hilariously melting down on twitter as we speak 😂😂
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Boomer Esiason just said Manish’s source was Brian Heimerdinger
Heimerdinger tried to make a move to push Maccagnan out and fucked himself
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[insert random WWE wresting gif here]
/Manish
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[insert random WWE wresting gif here]
/Manish
freaking guy can't resist low quality reaction gifs.
"Today is Thursday."
(https://i.imgur.com/Z2JJchA.gif)
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(http://i67.tinypic.com/3zb7a.png)
I am a literal hero for getting a shot of this before it was deleted
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https://mobile.twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1131285356475756544
This dude is losing it
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https://mobile.twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1131285356475756544
This dude is losing it
How is that context for Schragers relationship with Johnson, in terms of wanting him as a GM?
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How is that context for Schragers relationship with Johnson, in terms of wanting him as a GM?
He doesnt want him as GM. That was already debunked
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I don't think there was ever a suggestion about wanting Schrager as GM, the story was that Johnson would be consulting Schrager for his opinions on who would be suited to the role. Which is very possible, but completely uninteresting. "Man consults friend who knows a lot of people in the industry who might be good for vacancy he needs to fill" is not an unusual or in any way remarkable story, and I'm not sure which is worse - Manish reporting it like it's supposed to matter, or people desperately wanting him to be wrong about it just because it's Manish.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1131285356475756544
This dude is losing it
Isn’t the first commenter a TGG guy?
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I don't think there was ever a suggestion about wanting Schrager as GM, the story was that Johnson would be consulting Schrager for his opinions on who would be suited to the role. Which is very possible, but completely uninteresting. "Man consults friend who knows a lot of people in the industry who might be good for vacancy he needs to fill" is not an unusual or in any way remarkable story, and I'm not sure which is worse - Manish reporting it like it's supposed to matter, or people desperately wanting him to be wrong about it just because it's Manish.
Manish has 3 tweets about this in the last day, so it’s probably more about him being an annoying, uniformed queynte, as usual.
@MMehtaNYDN:Jets won’t be hiring a search firm/consultant for GM search like they did for the previous two hires.
However, they’ve told people that TV personality & sideline reporter Peter Schrager could be contacted for assistance on prospective candidates. His name has come up internally
@MMehtaNYDN: Jets have discussed using TV personality Peter Schrager (a friend of Christopher Johnson) in General Manager search, per sources.
@MMehtaNYDN: Some context about Peter Schrager’s relationship with Jets CEO Christopher Johnson: Schrager was among the attendees at Johnson’s wedding last July.
@BrianCoz: A Jets source said that while the team respects Peter Schrager, the only conversations the team has had with the broadcaster are about him working on their preseason telecasts.
@Connor_J_Hughes: From my understanding, while the #Jets respect Peter Schrager, their discussions with him have only been about working the team’s preseason telecasts. Nothing else.
@RVacchianoSNY: The Jets are talking with Fox Sports Peter Schrager about a role on their preseason telecasts, according to a team source. The Jets have a high respect for @Pschrags, but it does not appear that they are consulting him on their GM search.
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Is there a difference between consulting Charlie Casserly and Peter Schrager? Schrager sells more headlines and gets more retweets but that's about it.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/rajpc1/status/1131566460160106498
Bahahahaha Hahahahah
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Manish is a massive putz
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alXYusJIrqc
Boomer takes a massive dump on Manish and expresses his massive chub for Gase
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Honestly, if it weren't for Manish, I'd feel a lot worse about recent developments. Watching this putz overreact is helping me stay cool.
Visiting tgg from time to time has a similar effect.
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Manish at it again
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-turmoil-johnson-maccagnan-20190530-bqohcmaux5hh5ift6vk6ewkzkq-story.html?utm_content=buffercd744&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=mmehta+twitter
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Adam Gase is running the show in Jets GM search. Just needs Chris Johnson’s final approval. Gase has called each candidate to give his pitch before formal interviews, per team source
My understanding: Gase’s top selling point has been Sam Darnold
Manish
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Everyone loves to excrement all over Manish. Don't get me wrong, he stirs the pot like no one else in NY, but he definitely has inside sources he's cultivated and gets stories no one else does. Is he a dick about it? Sure, but the Daily News pays him for that because it's a sensationalist dishrag. That doesn't make his stories factually incorrect.
And this newest story is disturbing. Beyond the shitstirring of the article, this clandestine backstabby bullshit is bad for business.
The only positive, to me, is that it kind of exonerates Gase. All the beat writers were implying he was lying about Johnson calling him to tell him, not taking his advice, and this story corroborates that.
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Everyone loves to excrement all over Manish. Don't get me wrong, he stirs the pot like no one else in NY, but he definitely has inside sources he's cultivated and gets stories no one else does. Is he a dick about it? Sure, but the Daily News pays him for that because it's a sensationalist dishrag. That doesn't make his stories factually incorrect.
And this newest story is disturbing. Beyond the shitstirring of the article, this clandestine backstabby bullshit is bad for business.
The only positive, to me, is that it kind of exonerates Gase. All the beat writers were implying he was lying about Johnson calling him to tell him, not taking his advice, and this story corroborates that.
His source is gone now, that’s why he’s so butthurt
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His source is gone now, that’s why he’s so butthurt
If his source is gone, where'd he get info about a clandestine meeting involving Johnson and people who are no longer with the organization that refused to comment on his story?
I'm not defending Manish's tendency to stir excrement up, other than to acknowledge it's likely in large part directed by an employer whose product is best used to house-train a pet, but he gets an awful lot right in terms of the facts in his stories.
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If his source is gone, where'd he get info about a clandestine meeting involving
Heimerdinger was his source.
He’s probably still running his mouth.
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If his source is gone, where'd he get info about a clandestine meeting involving Johnson and people who are no longer with the organization that refused to comment on his story?
I'm not defending Manish's tendency to stir excrement up, other than to acknowledge it's likely in large part directed by an employer whose product is best used to house-train a pet, but he gets an awful lot right in terms of the facts in his stories.
Probably from the same place that informed him Peter Schrager was at Chris Johnson’s wedding
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From the story above:
Maccagnan — who was fired on May 15 — declined comment when reached for this story. Johnson and Heimerdinger (also fired this month) couldn’t be reached for comment. The Jets declined multiple requests for comment.
Note the missing name, then ask yourself why he might be sharing this.
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I mean, none of that is really exceptionally surprising, it'd be more surprising if they didn't do this. Of course they're going to discuss in private their options and create a plan for after they make the move.
i dont really care at all. manish is bad
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i dont really care at all. manish is bad
Manish is bad, both Johnsons are bad, Gase is bad, pretty much everyone involved in the running of the entire franchise is a freaking clown. Keep the players, empty the offices, start over again.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/legerdouzable/status/1134148569303277568
Lmao
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Heimerdinger was his source.
He’s probably still running his mouth.
That doesn't make sense if Manish is being honest that Heimerdinger specifically couldn't be reached for comment.
Probably from the same place that informed him Peter Schrager was at Chris Johnson’s wedding
Okay, but then who was that person? Because they apparently also knew that Johnson was having secret meetings while planning to shitcan everyone.
I mean, none of that is really exceptionally surprising, it'd be more surprising if they didn't do this. Of course they're going to discuss in private their options and create a plan for after they make the move.
i dont really care at all. manish is bad
It's not necessarily the closed-door planning, it's that he was plotting above and beyond what the group he was part of was plotting.
Firing Bowles was a no-brainer, but Johnson was literally discussing and planning it with people who he was also planning to fire.
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That doesn't make sense if Manish is being honest that Heimerdinger specifically couldn't be reached for comment.
Okay, but then who was that person? Because they apparently also knew that Johnson was having secret meetings while planning to shitcan everyone.
Like I said. Look at who was present, and whose comment or lack thereof went unmentioned.
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Like I said. Look at who was present, and whose comment or lack thereof went unmentioned.
Erik Burkhardt?
That's the only person who was supposedly at the meeting who isn't mentioned about declining/unavailability for comment. I don't really see what he'd have to gain from this at this point, especially since he declined comment back in December.
Also, the article has this line:
“(Johnson) was the driving force,” said one current Jets employee.
Manish still has inside sources.
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Erik Burkhardt?
That's the only person who was supposedly at the meeting who isn't mentioned about declining/unavailability for comment. I don't really see what he'd have to gain from this at this point, especially since he declined comment back in December.
Also, the article has this line:
Manish still has inside sources.
Burkhardt was representing Kingsbury, who didn't get the job. He presumably represents other coaches as well as players and maybe even front office staff. Dysfunctional basketcases are not good for agents, they're unpredictable and difficult to deal with. It makes a whole heap of sense that he'd want to expose a club for being a shambles; sunlight tends to have a cleansing effect.
There's no sense at all in Maccagnan or Heimerdinger giving that story to the press if they want to get another job in football.
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Burkhardt was representing Kingsbury, who didn't get the job. He presumably represents other coaches as well as players and maybe even front office staff. Dysfunctional basketcases are not good for agents, they're unpredictable and difficult to deal with. It makes a whole heap of sense that he'd want to expose a club for being a shambles; sunlight tends to have a cleansing effect.
There's no sense at all in Maccagnan or Heimerdinger giving that story to the press if they want to get another job in football.
There's no sense in Burkhardt doing it either. Who would believe he'd be a reliable person in the future to meet with behind closed doors?
That also ignores that it wasn't that Kingsbury didn't get the job, Kingsbury took the Cardinals job before the Jets even had a chance to make their offer.
And it still doesn't negate that someone currently inside the organization fed Manish the info that the meeting was definitely at Johnson's request.
I think Manish is guilty of some shitty behavior, but I also think he has cultivated a large pool of sources within the NYJ organization.
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There's no sense in Burkhardt doing it either. Who would believe he'd be a reliable person in the future to meet with behind closed doors?
That also ignores that it wasn't that Kingsbury didn't get the job, Kingsbury took the Cardinals job before the Jets even had a chance to make their offer.
And it still doesn't negate that someone currently inside the organization fed Manish the info that the meeting was definitely at Johnson's request.
I think Manish is guilty of some shitty behavior, but I also think he has cultivated a large pool of sources within the NYJ organization.
Burkhardt is the only person it does make sense for. Like I said, sunlight cleanses. And the finger of blame is bound to be pointed at the disgruntled guys who got fired.
Maccagnan and Heimerdinger have nothing to gain by sharing this and quite a bit to lose. Agents need teams to behave like well run organisations, it's really not in their interest to have a headcase like Gase calling the shots. Unhappy players make for more work and less money for an agent.
I've no doubt there are other people Manish talks to in the organisation, but this has clearly come from one of the four people present that night.
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What's the story here, the Jets front office were looking to replace Todd Bowles after the Miami game? And that's, what... rude?
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Burkhardt is the only person it does make sense for. Like I said, sunlight cleanses. And the finger of blame is bound to be pointed at the disgruntled guys who got fired.
Maccagnan and Heimerdinger have nothing to gain by sharing this and quite a bit to lose. Agents need teams to behave like well run organisations, it's really not in their interest to have a headcase like Gase calling the shots. Unhappy players make for more work and less money for an agent.
I've no doubt there are other people Manish talks to in the organisation, but this has clearly come from one of the four people present that night.
I see your point.
Apart from the he-said-she-said, what a freaking shitstorm this organization is.
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#ManishButtholeGreen
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Manish
I mean if you're gonna build your franchise around your HC, at least build your franchise around your HC. Even though in this case it's fully unwarranted
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That piece is a trainwreck of an article and Manish should be embarrassed as a journalist.
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It's cute how Manish is trying to make "STABBED IN THE BACK" a leitmotif
"Gase, how do you feel about the narrative that you stabbed Maccagnan in the back?"
"That's dumb and you're a nerd"
"Exclusive Look Inside the Jets Mess: A secret meeting, a reckless owner and a GM stabbed in the back"
we live in such a "if you say it loud enough it's true" culture
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That piece is a trainwreck of an article and Manish should be embarrassed as a journalist.
Manish getting upset on Twitter is the best
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I think Manish is guilty of some shitty behavior, but I also think he has cultivated a large pool of sources within the NYJ organization.
Manish literally had the asst GM and likely the GM as well as sources and got outscooped by freaking Tony Pauline
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Le’Veon Bell’s first carry: loss of 4 yards
Manish
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sam-darnold-adam-gase-dallas-cowboys-20191015-fvocs2q3j5ekxfav6vnifi6nii-story.html
This headline tho
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sam-darnold-adam-gase-dallas-cowboys-20191015-fvocs2q3j5ekxfav6vnifi6nii-story.html
This headline tho
I freaking love Manish
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Manish is a queynte, but he isn't wrong.
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Not a crazy concept. Chad Pennington made Herm, Mangini and Sprano all look much smarter than they were. You can throw in Paul Hackett as well.
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https://twitter.com/espnbob/status/1188963116991832074?s=21
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Don't freaking disparage Bob. He's the best thing this franchise has.
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Manisch replies with “No reason to get chippy”
What a hoo-ha. Go start a fuckin halal cart you jerkoff
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Manish is a massive Twitter punk. Bob shoved his tweet right back up his derriere and Manish tried to pretend he wasn't just being a troll, calling out Bob when he doesn't have a single clue whether he's just pulling excrement out of his derriere or not.
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Manish is a massive Twitter punk. Bob shoved his tweet right back up his derriere and Manish tried to pretend he wasn't just being a troll, calling out Bob when he doesn't have a single clue whether he's just pulling excrement out of his derriere or not.
there is something undeniably and objectively wrong with manish's head. he made a baseless tweet about bob waffling on air about leo, and when bob responded that manish obviously does not listen to him on air, manish responded with 'no reason to get chippy, all i'm saying is i have the right to make baseless tweets'. he responded with that like he was fvcking saying something.
he literally is a piece of excrement
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Manish and his paper need clicks and attention. He isn't nuts, he just says things to get attention. It works.
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Manish and his paper need clicks and attention. He isn't nuts, he just says things to get attention. It works.
This.
Manish has a job to do and he is willing to put his career success above normal moral/ethics and his credibility/name.
As a paper you love this type of employee
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Some background: Adam Gase wanted to trade Marcus Maye upon getting the job before coming around on the player.
Manish tweet from yesterday that got lost in the shuffle
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Sources say Adam Gase tried to trade himself
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Sources say Adam Gase tried to trade himself
We should only be so lucky
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Jets CEO Chris Johnson believes criticisms from fans & media over Adam Gase hire are unfair, per sources.
Gase’s Offense Rankings:
Total: 32
Passing: 32
Rushing: 30
Scoring: 32
1st downs: 32
3rd down %: 32
Jets are 1-7
CJ is 10-30 in charge
Manish bringing that heat
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Jets fans .... Never apologize for being passionate. Never apologize for wanting a good product and accountability. Never apologize for spending your money however you want to spend it.
Nobody should question that... especially someone like me, who watches games for free
Manish’s turn from heel to face the past week has been highly entertaining
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Manish’s turn from heel to face the past week has been highly entertaining
Loving the wrestling terminology.
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“I’m rich as f--k” has become Gase’s go-to line since taking over 11 months ago, according to sources. Gase has repeatedly said it to anyone that mentions the avalanche of criticism this year. It has become his defense mechanism.
“He’s an insecure guy,” a Jets source told the News.
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Gase also has said behind closed doors that his “Give-A-Sh--t meter” is low when it comes to critics since he’s got enough money in the bank now (thanks to Christopher Johnson).
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https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1209447211727294466?s=21
Give this man a Pulitzer, this is top notch reporting
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...why should Gase give two fucks about this fanbase.
Have you seen TGG? Most of us are retards.
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...why should Gase give two fucks about this fanbase.
Have you seen TGG? Most of us are retards.
I tried to log in there a year or two ago just for kicks and I was locked out somehow. Oh well.
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Manish is one of the those beat writers that's horribly wrong or surprisingly right....there's no middle ground for him.
I'm starting to like him more than Costello though. freaking shill for the Jets FO.
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I tried to log in there a year or two ago just for kicks and I was locked out somehow. Oh well.
I want my head coach to care about certain things...the rank and file of this fanbase isn't on the list.
Bad organizations/general managers/coaches govern their actions on the basis of fan reaction.
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My take on the Manish article:
Adam Gase shouldn't concern himself with what is said by the media or fans. NY is a tough town to play/coach in, and takes thick skin. I have no issue with him not giving a excrement what people think.
I do have an issue if he's being the same guy behind closed doors that he supposedly was in Miami. This goes back to one of the core reasons I was against the hire. Like Rex, maybe he's a good coach, but he hasn't had time to learn his lesson before getting his next gig.
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I want my head coach to care about certain things...the rank and file of this fanbase isn't on the list.
Bad organizations/general managers/coaches govern their actions on the basis of fan reaction.
This I’ll agree with. I’m sure at some point Gase has said the phrase “I’m rich as freak” as we all would too.
Should he be worried about the fans criticizing him. No, he should be worrying about winning. This is click bait at its finest.
Doesn’t mean I want Gase around. But this isn’t a reason to even consider throwing on the pile of “maybe it can be evidence against him” pile
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I want my head coach to care about certain things...the rank and file of this fanbase isn't on the list.
Bad organizations/general managers/coaches govern their actions on the basis of fan reaction.
Good organizations/general managers/don't have to, because they've earned the trust of the fan base.
The Jets fanbase is no more or less stupid than that of any other team. We've just been eating a much bigger excrement sandwich for much longer than most others. 31 other fanbases would be up in arms about Adam Gase being hired as their head coach and then producing the kind of garbage offense we've been watching all season, so don't let's pretend it's because we're somehow special.
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Good organizations/general managers/don't have to, because they've earned the trust of the fan base.
The Jets fanbase is no more or less stupid than that of any other team. We've just been eating a much bigger excrement sandwich for much longer than most others. 31 other fanbases would be up in arms about Adam Gase being hired as their head coach and then producing the kind of garbage offense we've been watching all season, so don't let's pretend it's because we're somehow special.
All I know is, they don't have to put up idiotic "quiet offense at work" graphics in Chicago. At LucasOil in Indy you can hear a pin drop when their offense is on the field.
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This I’ll agree with. I’m sure at some point Gase has said the phrase “I’m rich as freak” as we all would too.
I guaran-freaking tee you that he said this like one time and Manish is blowing it up because Manish.
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Merry Christmas
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I like how Manish trashes Gase nonstop and then gets mad if Gase isn't perfect answering questions. Gase probably SHOULD be pissed at Manish
From what I've seen, Gase has been good with the media. No clue what he is like behind closed doors though
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I guaran-freaking tee you that he said this like one time and Manish is blowing it up because Manish.
This ^
Gase is an poopchute be he isnt a 100% dick.
This sounds like something he said in jest
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Jets Rankings:
Adam Gase’s Offense:
DVOA: 32
Total: 32
Run: 31
Pass: 30
Bottom 3 in NFL: total yards rushing yards, passing yards, yards per play, 3rd-down efficiency, 1st downs
Gregg Williams’ Defense:
DVOA: 11
Total: 7
Run: 2
Pass: 15
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^ Luke Falk really fucked up our offense
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https://twitter.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1211110318128148480?s=21
Lmaooooo
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Everyone please do their duty and tag Manish
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This ^
Gase is an poopchute be he isnt a 100% dick.
This sounds like something he said in jest
I always thought being an poopchute is worse than being a dick.
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Let's start a go fund me to help manish to get gase fired
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Let's start a go fund me to help manish to get gase fired
I'll start researching billboard space near the NYDN offices.
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Adam Gase on whether he has Twitter account: “No.... Do you?”
Manish is such a whiny bitch. That was the last question of the presser. Of all the questions you could ask an embattled head coach, that's the petty question you ask.
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Lolol. The rest of the beat hates him.
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Lolol. The rest of the beat hates him.
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I think Gase's short answer about Bell had more to do with who was asking the question than his feelings on Bell. #nyj
You don’t say
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Matt Rhule is in serious play for the Giants job.
Jets loved Matt Rhule during their coaching search last year. However, the sticking point was offensive coordinator. Rhule wanted then-Texans assistant Sean Ryan, I’m told. NYJ did not approve.
Ryan is the Lions QBs coach now.
Interesting
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Interesting
Instead they love Dowell Loggains?
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https://twitter.com/jasonrmcintyre/status/1211737337383641088?s=21
“ This is about a coach being sick of one reporter (@MMehtaNYDN, who i know personally and like) who is driving a get-him-out agenda.
Jets would be STUPID to dump a talented player like @LeVeonBell. Figure out a way to use him + bolster OL”
Manish’s now deleted tweet in response:
Agenda: Hold the head coach accountable for his decisions.
And I like you to, J-Mac.
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Is Manish operating with an agenda? Sure. Doesn't make him wrong.
Also, you know who else seemingly really likes Manish? Jamal Adams.
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It cracks me up how every other beat writer hates Manish
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It cracks me up how every other beat writer hates Manish
He's out there wasting time with TMZ questions.
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Since it probably goes better here, update on @WyattV18:
It was Manish. https://twitter.com/incarceratedbob/status/1211824820784189440
Shocking. Who could have seen that coming.
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I doubt it's actually Manish. But it would be the best moment in the history of JetsTwitter if this is actually him.
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I doubt it's actually Manish. But it would be the best moment in the history of JetsTwitter if this is actually him.
Could be the ol' double setup
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Would be funny if it is Gase's burner and he's freaking with Manish. When Manish asked him if he had a burner acct, he said "no, do you?" Maybe that was a sign.
Sad that this is more interesting than the team.
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For the most part, I like Manish. But if he really did set up the whole "burner account" thing, that's just unbelievably classless and unprofessional.
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For the most part, I like Manish. But if he really did set up the whole "burner account" thing, that's just unbelievably classless and unprofessional.
manish is as vindictive as a hormonal teen chick, he would totally do something like this to try and push his agenda vs gase
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Manish "Jim Accosta" Mehta.
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manish is as vindictive as a hormonal teen chick, he would totally do something like this to try and push his agenda vs gase
Vindictive is fine. Pushing an agenda is fine (not to mention I agree with the agenda).
Literally fabricating a story by creating a fake entity that you then report on destroys journalistic integrity.
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Vindictive is fine. Pushing an agenda is fine (not to mention I agree with the agenda).
Literally fabricating a story by creating a fake entity that you then report on destroys journalistic integrity.
It's so awful that it's hilarious.
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Some weirdo on JetsTwitter traced the Wyatt account to one of the PR people working in the Jets FO. Take it with a grain of salt.
But it sounds like it wasn't Manish.
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Some weirdo on JetsTwitter traced the Wyatt account to one of the PR people working in the Jets FO. Take it with a grain of salt.
But it sounds like it wasn't Manish.
These internet sleuths have been convinced at one point that the burner was Gase, Manish, and now a Jets PR. The most likely outcome was always that this was a rando troll on the internet looking to stir up excrement
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These internet sleuths have been convinced at one point that the burner was Gase, Manish, and now a Jets PR. The most likely outcome was always that this was a rando troll on the internet looking to stir up excrement
I'm hoping it turns out to be junc
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I hope it's Justin Gray
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I hope it's Justin Gray
If you could somehow schedule a fist fight with him at our tailgate...i'll make a point to be in attendance.
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I hope someday we have better things to worry about with the Jets in January.
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I'm hoping it turns out to be junc
That's as likely as any of the scenarios we've heard so far.
I hope someday we have better things to worry about with the Jets in January.
#KeepRex
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https://twitter.com/teamthirsttrap/status/1215676351107100672?s=21
Manish bodied for being wrong and a liar for the millionth time, you love to see it.
His original tweet has been deleted.
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https://twitter.com/teamthirsttrap/status/1215676351107100672?s=21
Manish bodied for being wrong and a liar for the millionth time, you love to see it.
His original tweet has been deleted.
Without seeing what was deleted I can't grasp the context.
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Without seeing what was deleted I can't grasp the context.
I think he said he has never called for a coach to be fired, ever.
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I think he said he has never called for a coach to be fired, ever.
Thanks, that makes sense.
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Without seeing what was deleted I can't grasp the context.
His deleted tweet is still on my feed because it hasn’t refreshed.
“ Never have called for any Jets coach to be fired. Literally never. No coach. Ever.”
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His deleted tweet is still on my feed because it hasn’t refreshed.
“ Never have called for any Jets coach to be fired. Literally never. No coach. Ever.”
Haha busted. Thanks.
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https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1241162857431076867?s=21
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https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1241162857431076867?s=21
Hell, we should have traded Qvale for Nuk.
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https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1241162857431076867?s=21
Until I read the tweet he was quoting I had no idea who he was talking about, as it could have applied to any of them.
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https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1249714290329878531?s=21
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https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/1251213666462162945
Sources: Jets discussing freeing up money to sign former Patriots & Titans DB Logan Ryan.
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Free up money? They've got $19M in cap space plus another $11M freeing up when Johnson comes off the books, so $30M without needing to cut anyone. How much do they think they're going to need to pay him? He was only making $10M per with Tennessee.
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Free up money? They've got $19M in cap space plus another $11M freeing up when Johnson comes off the books, so $30M without needing to cut anyone. How much do they think they're going to need to pay him? He was only making $10M per with Tennessee.
I mean he did say this in the link provided
Logic dictates Ryan would get a one-year deal on the open market at this point, which would require the Jets, who have approximately $10 million in remaining salary cap space, to make some adjustments to land the 29-year-old. Cap space, however, is hardly the biggest obstacle given that the Jets will free up $11 million after June 1 thanks to Trumaine Johnson’s designation. (Much of that space will be taken up by rookie signings.)
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-20200504-la45eyhzpbac5osqruticcektm-story.html
Jets looking to trade Maye
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-20200504-la45eyhzpbac5osqruticcektm-story.html
Jets looking to trade Maye
are we? I mean it appears we had discussions at the deadline last year (which we did) and we just drafted Davis. Manish is citing past discussions and that Gase wanted to trade him last year when he got in the door.
But I can’t imagine why we would move Maye right now unless someone offers us far more than Maye is worth. Davis is unlikely to be ready to take over right now, and Maye is a damn good player for us. If we get into the year, approaching the deadline and Davis has proven he’s ready to roll and we get strong offers for Maye? Then sure. Because I completely get why paying Maye and Adams isn’t the best financial plan. Doesn’t mean I want to do it though
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are we? I mean it appears we had discussions at the deadline last year (which we did) and we just drafted Davis. Manish is citing past discussions and that Gase wanted to trade him last year when he got in the door.
But I can’t imagine why we would move Maye right now unless someone offers us far more than Maye is worth. Davis is unlikely to be ready to take over right now, and Maye is a damn good player for us. If we get into the year, approaching the deadline and Davis has proven he’s ready to roll and we get strong offers for Maye? Then sure. Because I completely get why paying Maye and Adams isn’t the best financial plan. Doesn’t mean I want to do it though
I think Maye is a FA next offseason. They might just be planting the trade seeds a year in advance. I guess it'll depend on how high they're on Ashtyn Davis, and how effective he is in Geg's scheme.
EDIT: Maye also had a pretty good year last year. Not just on the stat sheet, but staying healthy in general. Big Doug might want to maximize the return while Maye's stock is in the black....a strong gust of wind could put Maye on the IR at any moment.
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Manish always tries to make the organization look stupid.
"(because he's a very good player)"
Maye is good, but he's made of glass. i'd prefer to keep him through 2020 and just get a potential comp pick for him, but if we can move him for a starter at another spot or a draft pick now, you'd have to consider it.
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The franchise tag is always an option for Maye
He's a safety and the number isn't outrageously unreasonable.
If you can't get good value for him now, try to extend him and if you can't tag and trade has to be worth considering. If he's healthy and plays at a quality level I don't think it would be hard to tag and trade for a 2nd.
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The franchise tag is always an option for Maye
He's a safety and the number isn't outrageously unreasonable.
Why would we pay Marcus Maye $11M?
I don't even care if he plays an entire season again. His health will always be a question mark.
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There is value in the fact that he was healthy last year and his value might be as high as it can be now. Especially if he's part of a package that gets us a decent pass rusher. That'll never happen, but a guy can dream.
On the other hand, he's a solid starter and the guy that .... possibly... could be his replacement is a rookie and won't have a normal first offseason to get up to speed. It makes sense to keep him and let him start this year, not getting too caught up in trade value. Not like we are getting a 1st or 2nd for him anyway unless he has an outstanding, healthy season. Certainly not right now.
I don't know if I like the idea of starting the season with a different FS right now. Gregggggg could probably figure it out but why create that problem?
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Why would we pay Marcus Maye $11M?
I don't even care if he plays an entire season again. His health will always be a question mark.
Presumably we would pay him 11 million because we think he's worth it.
The same reason why some people would argue we should make Jamal the highest paid safety ever.
Now I'd rather not be spending close to 30 million a year on safeties so I'd hope we could trade him
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The same reason why some people would argue we should make Jamal the highest paid safety ever.
Jamal Adams is an All-Pro safety that hasn't missed any time.
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Jamal Adams is an All-Pro safety that hasn't missed any time.
Which is why he would be making close to 50% more per year than Maye with a freak ton of guaranteed money
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Jamal Adams is an All-Pro safety that hasn't missed any time.
Please stop feeding the cap troll.
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Where did this thread take a turn? Oh yes here:
The franchise tag is always an option for Maye
He's a safety and the number isn't outrageously unreasonable.
If you can't get good value for him now, try to extend him and if you can't tag and trade has to be worth considering. If he's healthy and plays at a quality level I don't think it would be hard to tag and trade for a 2nd.
Presumably we would pay him 11 million because we think he's worth it.
The same reason why some people would argue we should make Jamal the highest paid safety ever.
Now I'd rather not be spending close to 30 million a year on safeties so I'd hope we could trade him
In what world is that an option?
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Where did this thread take a turn? Oh yes here:
In what world is that an option?
Is what part an option? Franchise tagging Maye and trying to trade him? Unless there's another player who is a obvious franchise tag candidate I think tagging Maye is reasonable, assuming he stays healthy and plays at a high level yet again.
Having him play out on the tag wouldn't be ideal, but if that's the worse case scenario im okay with it.
And the 11 million figure was from Heismanberg presumably referring to the transition tag
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Is what part an option? Franchise tagging Maye and trying to trade him? Unless there's another player who is a obvious franchise tag candidate I think tagging Maye is reasonable, assuming he stays healthy and plays at a high level yet again.
Having him play out on the tag wouldn't be ideal, but if that's the worse case scenario im okay with it.
And the 11 million figure was from Heismanberg presumably referring to the transition tag
DCM mode engaged:
The Jets just drafted Maye's replacement but freak it lets tag Maye........
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No one's paying Marcus Maye to play under the franchise tag, let alone giving up draft capital to acquire his services...
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DCM mode engaged:
The Jets just drafted Maye's replacement but freak it lets tag Maye........
*Tag and trade
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Unless someone blows us away with an offer, our decision whether to trade Maye should weigh entirely on our confidence in Davis's ability to start immediately.
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Maye is likely gonna net us a third rounder at best. Would prefer to just keep him and see what kind of comp pick we get for him in the future
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Maye is likely gonna net us a third rounder at best. Would prefer to just keep him and see what kind of comp pick we get for him in the future
Probably wouldn't get any comp pick because usually we need to sign free agents to fill holes based on our awful recent drafting. Then again, by 2022, hopefully it is less of an issue.
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Probably wouldn't get any comp pick because usually we need to sign free agents to fill holes based on our awful recent drafting. Then again, by 2022, hopefully it is less of an issue.
I’m really curious to see how Douglas plays next year. We have several people in the last year of their deals. Which means 2 things, lots of opportunity to lose players, and lots of holes we need to fill. Next year we are likely to be big players in FA again (at least in terms of number of guys signed) as we will have lots of cash to burn.
The safest play, if we want a pick for Maye is to trade him by the deadline. Similar to this year we will have a lot of guys who could sign elsewhere, but given we are going to need to sign lots of replacements for them, we likely won’t be looking at substantial comp picks
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PFT says Manish full of excrement.
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The Vikings tagged Anthony Harris, a top safety, have been openly shopping him, and can’t find a trade partner. But yes, let’s tag Maye and then try and trade him.
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The Vikings tagged Anthony Harris, a top safety, have been openly shopping him, and can’t find a trade partner. But yes, let’s tag Maye and then try and trade him.
Extend him? Take him out for an Arby's Beef n' Cheddar?
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The Vikings tagged Anthony Harris, a top safety, have been openly shopping him, and can’t find a trade partner. But yes, let’s tag Maye and then try and trade him.
Not particularly familiar with the player but supposedly he is a career backup/UDFA/special tewmer who had one good year and could be chasing 14+ million a year
Regardless this is all a moot argument. Unless Maye stays healthy and plays at a high level we wouldn't be franchise tagging him. And if he does both, it would be silly to not seriously consider using the tag
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Not particularly familiar with the player
Just stop here then
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https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1258823454046007297?s=21
Shots fired at Brian Costello
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https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiiQFodHRwczovL3d3dy5ueWRhaWx5bmV3cy5jb20vc3BvcnRzL2Zvb3RiYWxsL2pldHMvbnktbGV2ZW9uLWJlbGwtZnJhbmstZ29yZS1hZGFtLWdhc2UtdHJhZGUtMjAyMDA1MTIteHJsZ3BpeG1hemQzemx1djQ0em01b2Rhd2ktc3RvcnkuaHRtbNIBmAFodHRwczovL3d3dy5ueWRhaWx5bmV3cy5jb20vc3BvcnRzL2Zvb3RiYWxsL2pldHMvbnktbGV2ZW9uLWJlbGwtZnJhbmstZ29yZS1hZGFtLWdhc2UtdHJhZGUtMjAyMDA1MTIteHJsZ3BpeG1hemQzemx1djQ0em01b2Rhd2ktc3RvcnkuaHRtbD9vdXRwdXRUeXBlPWFtcA?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
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https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiiQFodHRwczovL3d3dy5ueWRhaWx5bmV3cy5jb20vc3BvcnRzL2Zvb3RiYWxsL2pldHMvbnktbGV2ZW9uLWJlbGwtZnJhbmstZ29yZS1hZGFtLWdhc2UtdHJhZGUtMjAyMDA1MTIteHJsZ3BpeG1hemQzemx1djQ0em01b2Rhd2ktc3RvcnkuaHRtbNIBmAFodHRwczovL3d3dy5ueWRhaWx5bmV3cy5jb20vc3BvcnRzL2Zvb3RiYWxsL2pldHMvbnktbGV2ZW9uLWJlbGwtZnJhbmstZ29yZS1hZGFtLWdhc2UtdHJhZGUtMjAyMDA1MTIteHJsZ3BpeG1hemQzemx1djQ0em01b2Rhd2ktc3RvcnkuaHRtbD9vdXRwdXRUeXBlPWFtcA?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
A joke of an article
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A joke of an article
Exactly why it’s in this thread. I’m surprised no one posted it already.
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Bell must be really disrespected by Frank Gore's $1M contract with $200K in guarantees
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This freaking guy...
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Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN
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Sources: Jets have talked to former Bears Pro Bowl OL Kyle Long about coming out of retirement.
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Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN
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36m
Sources: Jets have talked to former Bears Pro Bowl OL Kyle Long about coming out of retirement.
Interesting. Don't love the last time we tried that but it's not like it would be a huge risk.
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Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN
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36m
Sources: Jets have talked to former Bears Pro Bowl OL Kyle Long about coming out of retirement.
Let’s go!
Chris Long loves Joe Douglas
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I'm sure he's talented and all, but he's a walking advertisement for injured reserve.
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Interesting. Don't love the last time we tried that but it's not like it would be a huge risk.
Long is also quite a bit younger than Kalil was when we talked him into coming back.
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Long is also quite a bit younger than Kalil was when we talked him into coming back.
He's younger but like Bo said he's also worse in terms of injuries, at least as far as I can remember. It's low risk but I don't expect it would do much.
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I’d take Long over Winters
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Rick Tarsitano: I asked Kyle Long if there was any truth to the Jets talk rumors. He said, "No. None."
Lol.
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I'm not opposed to signing Long, but these guys retire for a reason. "their bodies breaking down" is usually at the top of their list of reasons.
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Rick Tarsitano: I asked Kyle Long if there was any truth to the Jets talk rumors. He said, "No. None."
Lol.
Manish is getting crapped on this offseason.
First the Logan Ryan signing and now this.
You hate to see it.
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Manish is getting crapped on this offseason.
First the Logan Ryan signing and now this.
You hate to see it.
The Athletic laid off 46 journalists today...i wonder if yer boi Connor Hughes took a hit.
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The Athletic laid off 46 journalists today...i wonder if yer boi Connor Hughes took a hit.
Looks like mostly basketball and CFB writers, although the Falcons and Cardinals writers got gunned as well:
https://awfulannouncing.com/athletic/the-athletic-lays-off-46-people.html
FWIW, I don't think it's 46 writers, it's 46 staff. Obviously some of them will be writers, but not all of them.
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Looks like mostly basketball and CFB writers, although the Falcons and Cardinals writers got gunned as well:
https://awfulannouncing.com/athletic/the-athletic-lays-off-46-people.html
my renewal date with them is at the beginning of July...i may opt out. No use paying for a subscription with no sports.
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Adam Hoge: Kyle Long is down to 265 pounds and has spent months telling everyone how much he’s enjoying retirement. He’s not going to the Jets. Carry on.
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It's times like this that I wonder if someone in the front office "leaks" "information" to a select group of people to see who will run to one of the beat guys--especially Manish--with the story.
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Unless he was coming here for nothing, we would be better off with Winters or Warford
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It's times like this that I wonder if someone in the front office "leaks" "information" to a select group of people to see who will run to one of the beat guys--especially Manish--with the story.
They did that where I work to try to figure out who was leaking info to the media. It worked.
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They did that where I work to try to figure out who was leaking info to the media. It worked.
Tyrion Lannister szn
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They did that where I work to try to figure out who was leaking info to the media. It worked.
Tell the whole story or GTFO
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Tell the whole story or GTFO
https://nypost.com/2019/02/03/rising-espn-star-adnan-virk-fired-escorted-out-in-leak-investigation/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/03/26/leak-investigation-cost-adnan-virk-his-espn-career-now-hes-starting-over/
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https://nypost.com/2019/02/03/rising-espn-star-adnan-virk-fired-escorted-out-in-leak-investigation/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/03/26/leak-investigation-cost-adnan-virk-his-espn-career-now-hes-starting-over/
damn you work at espn?
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damn you work at espn?
He's in the ESPN gay porn division.
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He's in the ESPN gay porn division.
It's hidden deep behind the pay walls.
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https://nypost.com/2019/02/03/rising-espn-star-adnan-virk-fired-escorted-out-in-leak-investigation/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/03/26/leak-investigation-cost-adnan-virk-his-espn-career-now-hes-starting-over/
Haha I used to go to the same gym as this guy by Central. I could bench 2x as much as him, obviously
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Haha I used to go to the same gym as this guy by Central. I could bench 2x as much as him, obviously
The 6 in Sixfeetdeep is from 624.
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my renewal date with them is at the beginning of July...i may opt out. No use paying for a subscription with no sports.
i actually just signed up because i got 6 months free. figured thered be something by then, and i can read fluff pieces by beat writers until then.
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Kyle Long is gaining weight...
Went from 255 up to 274 and said on Twitter he wants to be at 280 soon.
Why put on weight if you're not coming back?
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Kyle Long is gaining weight...
Went from 255 up to 274 and said on Twitter he wants to be at 280 soon.
Why put on weight if you're not coming back?
Makes sense, but probably not with Jets. No one said he wasn't coming back, just that he denied talking to the Jets.
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Makes sense, but probably not with Jets. No one said he wasn't coming back, just that he denied talking to the Jets.
Chris Long loves Joe Douglas. If Kyle comes back, I'd be surprised if it's not here.
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Kyle Long is gaining weight...
Went from 255 up to 274 and said on Twitter he wants to be at 280 soon.
Why put on weight if you're not coming back?
His wife is a feeder.
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Chris Long loves Joe Douglas. If Kyle comes back, I'd be surprised if it's not here.
Because his brother tells him to?
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Because his brother tells him to?
Yes
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Chris Long loves Joe Douglas. If Kyle comes back, I'd be surprised if it's not here.
Does it make any sense now that we're stuck with Brian Winters for another year?
I get that we want to improve the line and its been the top priority. But we're paying 3 guards grownup money already, and we just drafted another.
I don't know if I get the logic of bringing in Long at this point. Especially if hes not willing to be here for next to nothing
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someone should ask Manish if Logan Ryan is "still" a done deal.
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someone should ask Manish if Logan Ryan is "still" a done deal.
Logan Ryan and Andre Dillard will be week 1 starters
-Manish
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(https://i.redd.it/r676qo0v33751.jpg)
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manish does not deserve his own thread
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Manish got his own thread?
terrible.
What the freak is this excrement?
Manish had 6 other threads on this forum before I started this one. Either Badger goes nazi on me or the peanut gallery complains, I really don’t give a freak at this point
14 pages of top notch Jets content
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https://mobile.twitter.com/rajpc1/status/1131566460160106498
Bahahahaha Hahahahah
Manish doesn’t deserve his own thread, GTFO
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Jets should trade for Yannick Ngakoue
https://sports.yahoo.com/manish-mehta-jets-trade-jaguars-093200577.html
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Jets should trade for Yannick Ngakoue
https://sports.yahoo.com/manish-mehta-jets-trade-jaguars-093200577.html
I'd rather give the same money to Clowney and keep the pick. More versatile player, less of a dickhead.
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I'd rather give the same money to Clowney and keep the pick. More versatile player, less of a dickhead.
Clowney is more injury prone
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I'd rather give the same money to Clowney and keep the pick. More versatile player, less of a dickhead.
How is Clowney less of a dickhead? He's been threatening to holdout since his sophomore year of college. All he cares about is money.
Ngakoue is the better pass rusher, but I do agree that giving up picks + cash is less desirable.
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Clowney would make our run defense one of the best in NFL. I think a stronger pass rusher like Ngakoue is clearly the bigger need, especially with how weak our secondary could be.
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I wouldn't want to give up a draft pick for the right to pay Ngakoue $17 million this year and no guarantee he'd sign back. I'd be against it for the price alone because I don't know he's worth that much, but I might be able to get on board if Doug could get him for a non-1st rounder seeing that we can't sign him to an extension this year.
There is a level of risk that shouldn’t be marginalized though. NFL rules prevent the Jets from signing Ngakoue to a long-term extension this year. So, Douglas would be banking that the player would believe enough in the franchise (and Williams) to want to stick around beyond 2020.
Both of these guys are gonna cost north of $15 million this year and we aren't in the spot to do that now. Smoke and mirrors pass rush for one more year. Big Doug got us the first round OL we've been begging for for a decade. 2021 will be the pass rusher.
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How is Clowney less of a dickhead? He's been threatening to holdout since his sophomore year of college. All he cares about is money.
Ngakoue is the better pass rusher, but I do agree that giving up picks + cash is less desirable.
Lots of players only care about money, it's easy to manage someone who's coin operated because you know what you have to do to get what you want. It becomes a simple financial consideration.
Clowney has never to my knowledge taken to Twitter to argue with the team owners. I would have thought we'd had enough of that by now.
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The only way you'd trade for Ngakoue is if he agrees to an extension as part of the deal
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The only way you'd trade for Ngakoue is if he agrees to an extension as part of the deal
He can't.
There is a level of risk that shouldn’t be marginalized though. NFL rules prevent the Jets from signing Ngakoue to a long-term extension this year. So, Douglas would be banking that the player would believe enough in the franchise (and Williams) to want to stick around beyond 2020.
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Yeah, that's a stupid derriere rule and should completely take any pick higher than a 3rd off the table in trade talks.
Jacksonville has no leverage right now.
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Yeah, that's a stupid derriere rule and should completely take any pick higher than a 3rd off the table in trade talks.
Jacksonville has no leverage right now.
Yeah, I think they are just gonna try to out stubborn him and either make him play or hold out.
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Yeah, I think they are just gonna try to out stubborn him and either make him play or hold out.
He already went back and forth with their owner on Twitter. Surprised they still have him and haven't shipped him out yet. They are one of the few franchises in the NFL more inept than us.
Hopefully they just decide to get something for him and ship him out for a 3rd and a 5th like the Leonard Williams deal.
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He already went back and forth with their owner on Twitter. Surprised they still have him and haven't shipped him out yet. They are one of the few franchises in the NFL more inept than us.
Hopefully they just decide to get something for him and ship him out for a 3rd and a 5th like the Leonard Williams deal.
I'd give up a 3rd and 5th for Yannick
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Manish's time in the play like a jet podcast this week was worthwhile listen.
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I'd give up a 3rd and 5th for Yannick
This
But I don't really see a reason to trade for or sign anyone. I really have doubts there will be a season and if there isn't you've sacrificed resources unnecessarily.
Save the picks (unless you can steal him) and save the cash. Like bo said, 2021 is the pass rusher.
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i want ngakoue but there is no point in trading for him unless we're convinced he will extend here long term. one of the reasons why we traded adams was the 'he's good but we're still building and not going to be doing anything this year anyways' argument and the same would apply to ngakoue. therefore it wouldn't even make sense to trade for him unless we know we can secure him long term, and that's something i wouldn't bet with this team for a player that's going to want to be paid at the top level for his position.
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Ngakoue should be on the FA radar next season but I wouldn’t give up a 5th round pick to rent him for one year. We wouldn’t be able to resign him this year and if the Johnsons hamstrung the FO with cash limits this season before there was even a national pandemic then there is no way they are going to open the cash flow up after the projected revenue loss which would put us at a huge disadvantage for the coming bidding war for his services.
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Ngakoue should be on the FA radar next season but I wouldn’t give up a 5th round pick to rent him for one year. We wouldn’t be able to resign him this year and if the Johnsons hamstrung the FO with cash limits this season before there was even a national pandemic then there is no way they are going to open the cash flow up after the projected revenue loss which would put us at a huge disadvantage for the coming bidding war for his services.
I mean if we traded a 5th for him we'd very likely get back a 3rd round compensatory pick making that a no brainer.
That said Jacksonville sure as excrement ain't trading him for a 5th
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He already went back and forth with their owner on Twitter. Surprised they still have him and haven't shipped him out yet. They are one of the few franchises in the NFL more inept than us.
Hopefully they just decide to get something for him and ship him out for a 3rd and a 5th like the Leonard Williams deal.
In fairness, Tony Khan is a gigantic douchebag.
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as jfif said, you can't trust these paki-quedas
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as jfif said, you can't trust these paki-quedas
May he rest in peace
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https://twitter.com/jetsopinion/status/1290663717357707268?s=21
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https://twitter.com/jetsopinion/status/1290663717357707268?s=21
This might mean something to me if it literally came from any other source...
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This might mean something to me if it literally came from any other source...
We can only go by what we see on game day, but the eyeball evidence there would corroborate. Every time you see Gase he's head down in his playbook searching for inspiration as play after play fails - he isn't talking to his players, identifying things they need help figuring out, encouraging them, bollocking them, anything.
I am absolutely convinced that everything his career is built upon is watching film and drawing up plays. It explains why he could succeed with Peyton, it explains why there's such a marked difference between opening drive and subsequent playcalling, it explains why a young QB might think from an initial interview that he's the right man for the job. He's probably extremely good in the right role, but without the man management skills or the ability to read and react to what's happening on the field in real time (both things that were not necessary with Peyton) he is unsuited to being a head coach, and particularly to being the head coach of a team in the position we are.
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Unless he somehow pulls a Super Bowl win out of his derriere this season, the defining Gase moment for me is going to be him skipping Thanksgiving dinner before the Bengals game.
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Look, I'm not a Gase defender. I wasn't in favor of his hiring and nothing that I've observed to this point has persuaded me that he's the long-term answer for this team. That said, it's difficult for me to reconcile the picture that Manish has painted of the relationship between Gase and his team during the first half of the season with the fact that the team managed to go 6-2 down the stretch. You can point to the schedule if you want but if things were truly that bleak, the team should have cratered.
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Look, I'm not a Gase defender. I wasn't in favor of his hiring and nothing that I've observed to this point has persuaded me that he's the long-term answer for this team. That said, it's difficult for me to reconcile the picture that Manish has painted of the relationship between Gase and his team during the first half of the season with the fact that the team managed to go 6-2 down the stretch. You can point to the schedule if you want but if things were truly that bleak, the team should have cratered.
The end of the season just seems like the Geno Smith getting a near perfect QB rating in the last game of a season; just enough to keep it going for another year.
I don't think Manish is 100% right but Gase is just comes off as weird and unrelatable (unless, in one of my favorite moments of irony last season, he's shading Manish during a press conference) so hearing that he may have issues motivating his team or speaking to them at all doesn't seem too far fetched to me.
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1211428474788990976?s=20
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This honestly has more to do with my opinion of Manish that it does with my opinion of Gase. There's obviously bad blood between the two and Manish has consistently allowed his personal feelings to overwhelm his integrity as a journalist.
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1211428474788990976?s=20
I'm just going to keep posting this.
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1211428474788990976?s=20
I'm just going to keep posting this.
And I'll continue to say what I've always said... that Manish is a sniveling little bitch.
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Alex Lewis said it best:
(https://i.redd.it/r676qo0v33751.jpg)
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Whether he's the right coach for this team or not, no franchise should want players in their locker room that trash the coach.
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Adams used Manish to force a trade out of town because he knew that he was the only beat writer for this team that would entertain that farce.
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1211428474788990976?s=20
I'm just going to keep posting this.
https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/81044/how-jets-offense-went-from-potential-lulu-to-a-lou-lou-lemon
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2837130-stats-dont-lie-adam-gase-is-the-wrong-coach-for-sam-darnold-and-the-jets
https://thespun.com/nfl/afc-east/new-york-jets/nfl-analyst-names-the-leagues-worst-head-coach
https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/12/02/jets-adam-gase-called-terrible-game-bengals-worst-run-defense-nfl/
https://www.nj.com/jets/2019/11/cancel-the-jets-adam-gases-team-is-officially-footballs-worst-5-observations-takeaways-from-rock-bottom-loss-to-tanking-dolphins.html
https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/nfl/jets/2019/10/28/jets-whos-blame-sam-darnolds-struggles-start-adam-gase/2483454001/
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Jets Wire and Bleacher Report
Very credible
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Jets Wire and Bleacher Report
Very credible
As long as a JAG linebacker likes him, that's what really matters.
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Luke Falk could've been the next Tom Brady if it weren't for Adam Gase!
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Luke Falk could've been the next Tom Brady if it weren't for Adam Gase!
Luke Falk lost three games that Sam would have likely lost.
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As long as a JAG linebacker likes him, that's what really matters.
You forgot to mention Joe Douglas, Sam Darnold, and any other player that's ever said anything positive about Gase because it doesn't support your agenda
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You forgot to mention Joe Douglas, Sam Darnold, and any other player that's ever said anything positive about Gase because it doesn't support your agenda
I'm also not in the habit of publicly badmouthing colleagues and bosses, even the excrement ones.
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I'm also not in the habit of publicly badmouthing colleagues and bosses, even the excrement ones.
Last I checked, conversations had during exit interviews aren't publicized so if things were really as bleak as Manish described that should have come out after the season and Douglas/ownership would have no choice but to fire Gase.
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Public criticism counts but not public support. Got it.
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Adams never criticized Gase publicly until after he wasn't offered a contract extension. By the time he was traded, he was willing to say anything and everything to get himself out of town.
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CJ Mosley opted out because of Gase
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Last I checked, conversations had during exit interviews aren't publicized so if things were really as bleak as Manish described that should have come out after the season and Douglas/ownership would have no choice but to fire Gase.
That makes no sense.
Public criticism counts but not public support. Got it.
Correct, maybe you're finally starting to figure it out.
Journalists ask athletes questions about their coaches all the time. They generally do not answer with anything other than supportive platitudes because even the most stupid of people are generally smart enough to realise that there is exactly zero upside to saying anything else. This is how having a boss works, in sport as in the real world.
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CJ Mosley opted out because of Gase
He certainly isn't falling over himself to play for him, is he?
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Sam Darnold opted to play because of Gase.
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Sam Darnold opted to play because of Gase.
Sam Darnold opted to play because a third year QB with questions over his long term viability and a season impacted by illness last year wouldn't give a moment's consideration to not doing.
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That makes no sense.
Players have exit interviews with the front office following the season. The contents of these interviews are not made public so players are able to express their view of the direction of the team (i.e. the head coach) without fear of it making it into the press. If the situation was really as dire as Manish describes, this more than likely would have been identified during these interviews (if not well beforehand) and resulted in Douglas/ownership having no choice but to fire Gase.
Furthermore, if any part of what Manish has said is true, he wouldn't be the only one saying it. We know Manish has a vendetta against Gase. This has existed at least as far back as when Gase fired Manish's sources within the clubhouse following his ouster of Maccagnan (something Manish guaranteed wouldn't happen) and assumption of his duties. This was further evidenced by Manish's hostile line of questioning during Gase's press conferences and his apparent creation of a burner Twitter account meant to further discredit Gase.
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Correct, maybe you're finally starting to figure it out.
Journalists ask athletes questions about their coaches all the time. They generally do not answer with anything other than supportive platitudes because even the most stupid of people are generally smart enough to realise that there is exactly zero upside to saying anything else. This is how having a boss works, in sport as in the real world.
There's a difference between not saying anything negative about a coach and voluntarily offering praise for that coach. What Jordan Jenkins said about Gase is relevant because he's widely considered a leader for this team.
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It's a mistake to assume that there will only be one opinion of Gase in the locker room.
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It's a mistake to assume that there will only be one opinion of Gase in the locker room.
Exactly. I'm sure some players love him, some like him, some tolerate him, and some don't like him. Adams didn't like Gase, but he loved Gregg Williams, and Gase pretty much made him the coach of the defense.
Gase's future comes down to how well Darnold and the offense develop.
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Gase may or may not be gone following this season. Until the season starts, the constant back and forth on whether or not he's a viable coach is pointless. Ultimately, the proof will be in the results.
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even Dowell Loggains doesn’t like Gase
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Players have exit interviews with the front office following the season. The contents of these interviews are not made public so players are able to express their view of the direction of the team (i.e. the head coach) without fear of it making it into the press. If the situation was really as dire as Manish describes, this more than likely would have been identified during these interviews (if not well beforehand) and resulted in Douglas/ownership having no choice but to fire Gase.
I am aware of what exit interviews are. I'm curious as to your rationale that the Johnsons would have fired Gase after one season off the back of a few bad ones.
I'm also of the view that we have very few players who are good enough to have their NFL future assured, certainly at their current level of pay, and even in the supposedly closed environment of an exit interview it wouldn't surprise me at all if they were at least measured in their words.
Furthermore, if any part of what Manish has said is true, he wouldn't be the only one saying it. We know Manish has a vendetta against Gase. This has existed at least as far back as when Gase fired Manish's sources within the clubhouse following his ouster of Maccagnan (something Manish guaranteed wouldn't happen) and assumption of his duties. This was further evidenced by Manish's hostile line of questioning during Gase's press conferences and his apparent creation of a burner Twitter account meant to further discredit Gase.
We're honestly not far off the point at which your hatred of Manish becomes as equally dismissive a position as you seem to find mine of Gase, that your loathing of him so blinds you to the idea that he might actually be right that he could tell you that Gase has googly eyes and a slightly weird demeanour and you'd accuse him of making it up. Manish seems to have pretty much the same view as I do of Gase; he thinks he's a freaking awful head coach who should never have been hired and every day he stays here makes the team worse. I don't have a vendetta against him, I just want him fired.
The only difference between the plurality of fans who hold this view and Manish is that he has a direct line to Gase and gets to ask him the questions that we wish we could.
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If the morale within the locker room was as bad as Manish described, the team wouldn't have gone 6-2 down the stretch and Gase wouldn't still be employed as the head coach.
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Most of us believe in Joe Douglas. If circumstances were truly that dire, do you genuinely believe he wouldn't have been aware of that and communicated this to the Johnsons, forcing their hand?
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You basically admitted that you're willing to believe Manish because his rhetoric supports your own, even though it's well established that his is fuelled by a deep-seated vendetta against Gase and no other team beat writer is making these claims.
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We're honestly not far off the point at which your hatred of Manish becomes as equally dismissive a position as you seem to find mine of Gase, that your loathing of him so blinds you to the idea that he might actually be right that he could tell you that Gase has googly eyes and a slightly weird demeanour and you'd accuse him of making it up. Manish seems to have pretty much the same view as I do of Gase; he thinks he's a freaking awful head coach who should never have been hired and every day he stays here makes the team worse. I don't have a vendetta against him, I just want him fired.
The only difference between the plurality of fans who hold this view and Manish is that he has a direct line to Gase and gets to ask him the questions that we wish we could.
https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1083167880982786048?s=21
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If the morale within the locker room was as bad as Manish described, the team wouldn't have gone 6-2 down the stretch and Gase wouldn't still be employed as the head coach.
Thank you Gregg Williams. I was wrong about you. You're still a dick, but you're a dick who's really good at your job.
Most of us believe in Joe Douglas. If circumstances were truly that dire, do you genuinely believe he wouldn't have been aware of that and communicated this to the Johnsons, forcing their hand?
Whole bunch of stuff wrong there, the main bits being that you're still going on this whole idea that the players are internally revolting against Gase, that you think a first year GM would move against the owners' handpicked coach, and that you think they'd have listened.
If Gase had alienated himself from the team by midseason, they wouldn't have been able to keep that a secret and Gase likely wouldn't have made it through the season.
Please tell me the last time a coach was fired midway through his first season. (I can help you with this. It was 1978, when the 49ers fired someone called Pete McCulley. It's the only time it has ever happened.)
https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1083167880982786048?s=21
So you're saying that people changing their views based upon evidence is.... a bad thing?
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My point was that Gase would not still have a job if what Manish is claiming were true
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So you're saying that people changing their views based upon evidence is.... a bad thing?
No, I'm saying that Manish is full of excrement
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My point was that Gase would not still have a job if what Manish is claiming were true
If most of what Manish said was true this thread would probably have a different title
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I've been unimpressed with Gase ever since he was first floated as a possible HC candidate for his accomplishments as Peyton Manning's assistant. Nothing Manish writes made a significant difference to me re:Gase.
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Gase is a bum
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Gase is a bum
This time would be in much better shape if both Gase and Manish were jettisoned out of the country.
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Manish is on one because Gase is a “Snake” who “stabbed Mike MacCagnan in the back”
“You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
-Manish Mehta
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Mike Maccagnan stabbed himself in the front when he drafted Ardarius Stewart over Chris Godwin and Kenny Golladay.
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Mike Maccagnan stabbed himself in the front when he drafted Ardarius Stewart over Chris Godwin and Kenny Golladay.
Reading this gave me AIDS
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Mike Maccagnan stabbed himself in the front when he drafted Ardarius Stewart over Chris Godwin and Kenny Golladay.
Not sure which is worse - Stewart over Godwin/Golladay or Jace Amaro over Davante Adams/Allen Robinson/Jarvis Landry.
I knew Shaq Evans and Jalen Saunders were bad picks. I actually liked the Enunwa pick with his size/speed combo.
I actually thought Ardarius Stewart and Chad Hansen could potentially be useful. Sigh.
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I erased passing on Davante Adams from my memory because he is one of my all-time favorite players.
Thank you for ruining my day.
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Not sure which is worse - Stewart over Godwin/Golladay or Jace Amaro over Davante Adams/Allen Robinson/Jarvis Landry.
I knew Shaq Evans and Jalen Saunders were bad picks. I actually liked the Enunwa pick with his size/speed combo.
I actually thought Ardarius Stewart and Chad Hansen could potentially be useful. Sigh.
Didn’t we pass on Alshon Jeffrey for Stephen Hill?
I really hope Mims is legit....because we’re bad at this.
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We just need Mims to be decent. That's better than anything we ever got from Stephen Hill or Devin Smith.
We shouldn't expect him to be a #1 WR, but he has the tools to be a solid #2.
2021 is the year to grab a couple more wideouts for Sam.
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Didn’t we pass on Alshon Jeffrey for Stephen Hill?
I really hope Mims is legit....because we’re bad at this.
At least in Mims case when we looked at the board we pretty collectively felt Mims was the right guy. In those other cases, nobody was really on board with those WRs there. I mean most of us talked ourselves into it, but it wasn’t what we wanted
Mims on the other hand....
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We just need Mims to be decent. That's better than anything we ever got from Stephen Hill or Devin Smith.
We shouldn't expect him to be a #1 WR, but he has the tools to be a solid #2.
2021 is the year to grab a couple more wideouts for Sam.
The problem is that we need Mims to be decent RIGHT NOW.
Sam is entering year 3, and this is a big year for his long-term development, yet we're going into the season with Mims, Perriman and Crowder as his top receivers. Perriman and Mims both have the potential to be starting-caliber WRs this season, but both could easily fall flat on their faces.
I really wish we had grabbed another receiver in the middle rounds. Maybe they really like Vyncint Smith.
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At least in Mims case when we looked at the board we pretty collectively felt Mims was the right guy. In those other cases, nobody was really on board with those WRs there. I mean most of us talked ourselves into it, but it wasn’t what we wanted
Mims on the other hand....
I was fine with the Stephen Hill pick. Hill had absolutely elite measurables, especially at that time. I thought taking a chance on him in the 2nd round made sense. The problem with Hill, just like the problem with Mims, is that we needed him to make an impact right away as a starting WR, and he wasn't close to ready for that (and he never was). Mims at least has had several years as a productive college WR, so there's a simpler path for him to be useful right away. And Mims' measurables are somewhat similar to what Hill's were.
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I hated that Stephen Hill pick, especially since Alshon Jeffery was right there.
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I was fine with the Stephen Hill pick. Hill had absolutely elite measurables, especially at that time. I thought taking a chance on him in the 2nd round made sense. The problem with Hill, just like the problem with Mims, is that we needed him to make an impact right away as a starting WR, and he wasn't close to ready for that (and he never was). Mims at least has had several years as a productive college WR, so there's a simpler path for him to be useful right away. And Mims' measurables are somewhat similar to what Hill's were.
I hated that Stephen Hill pick, especially since Alshon Jeffery was right there.
I wanted Jeffery but I rationalized the Hill pick for all the reasons DS said.
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I wanted Jeffery but I rationalized the Hill pick for all the reasons DS said.
My biggest problem was that his best facets were measurables from the Combine and one YouTube vid, not his actual production on the field.
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My biggest problem was that his best facets were measurables from the Combine, not his actual production on the field.
he had the combine measurables plus one youtube vid
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he had the combine measurables plus one youtube vid
Updated.
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Get your vote in:
https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/1293706180871819274?s=19
If you don't vote, Putin will hide under your bed and grab your feet
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Manish trying to create a coaching controversy before the season starts.
What a loser.
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Get your vote in:
https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/1293706180871819274?s=19
If you don't vote, Putin will hide under your bed and grab your feet
i voted for geg.
Putin wouldn't go near my feet anyway.
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I went with Boyer but in retrospect I wish I'd voted for Kenny.
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No surprise that Gase edged out Looooggaainz by half a percent.
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Are people taking a Twitter poll seriously?
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Are people taking a Twitter poll seriously?
Yes, we believe that the Johnsons will use this to determine whether Gase keeps his job or not. Every vote counts.
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Libero posted about this in another thread, but it appears to be legit.
The NFL revoked Manish Mehta's credentials
lmaoooooooooooo
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Excellent.
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Wonder what he did. Being a douche has never been grounds for this.
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This is the closest thing we've had to a playoff win since 2010
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Good...freak him
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Manish is now below Dan Leberfeld on the beat writer depth chart
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Manish is now below Dan Leberfeld on the beat writer depth chart
*whispers*
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This is the closest thing we've had to a playoff win since 2010
First I laughed, but now on second thought this is just sad.
Nevertheless, freak Mehta. Good riddance.
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this is a good bit of news
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Manish is tweeting through it lmaooooo
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Dude is probably biting the content of Cimini’s tweets and posting from his parents basement
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This is the happiest I’ve been as a Jets fan in the last 10 years. Realizing this has made me sad though.
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Go to Boomer and Gio, it's at 7:31am.
https://www.radio.com/wfan/listen
Still not confirmed, but if it's true I'm really interested to hear why.
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Go to Boomer and Gio, it's at 7:31am.
https://www.radio.com/wfan/listen
Still not confirmed, but if it's true I'm really interested to hear why.
I suppose being an absolute c*nt doesn't qualify him?
NFL probably keeps a tally of bullsh*t and fake news that he throws against the wall, just hoping to get people fired.
Just a hunch...
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Douglas and/or Gase could've made a request to have it revoked.
It sounds like the NFL and the Jets pulled his credentials. Good riddance.
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I suppose being an absolute c*nt doesn't qualify him?
NFL probably keeps a tally of bullsh*t and fake news that he throws against the wall, just hoping to get people fired.
Just a hunch...
I doubt it. Reporters are supposed to be digging under the surface for the stories and asking the difficult questions, we already pay cheerleading squads separately.
I don't have any particular love for Manish, but I also don't have the hatred many seem to. I'd rather someone was actually reporting on what was happening even when it's not good, than just tossing meatballs to the club and its staff to put over the wall.
If the NFL has revoked his credentials my guess would be that it's something more untoward; he doesn't seem to have any friends among the writers, so if he's done something sketchy like paying for stories or leaks or creating fake social media accounts to set up club staff, and if they have proof of it, that would be my guess.
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His writing was very troll heavy. I’m not going to miss him, but I expect whoever takes over for him permanently is going to be the same way. Cimini was very similar to Mehta when he was still at NYDN; it’s clearly the style they want for the Jets’ beat writer.
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Never read him and won't miss him. Between Costello's Twitter and this forum I keep up with the Jets without the nonsense.
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He is on turn on the jets podcast atleast once a week. I wonder if he shows up this week and discusses what happened
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I'd rather someone was actually reporting on what was happening even when it's not good, than just tossing meatballs to the club and its staff to put over the wall.
I'm sure everyone here would agree with that. But the line between creating storylines and uncovering them is especially blurry in sports journalism and I'm fairly certain Manish Mehta isn't even aware it exists.
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https://twitter.com/ChrisCarlin/status/1298377083819905024?s=20
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https://twitter.com/ChrisCarlin/status/1298377083819905024?s=20
This is the story I want to read tomorrow not a random fluff piece about Pierre Desir getting healthy
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Poor Wyatt.
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Poor Wyatt.
I'm wondering if they are finally pinning that on him
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I'm wondering if they are finally pinning that on him
If that's what finally did him in, that's hysterical.
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If that's what finally did him in, that's hysterical.
It was also so long ago, I can't believe they got new information now.
If that was it though, couldn't they toss Cimini for the fake account he made a few years back? Or does that not count because it was trolling Manish?
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Poor Wyatt.
Wyatt?
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Wyatt?
Fake Twitter account that Manish started and tried to pass off as Gase's shadow account.
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This is the story I want to read tomorrow not a random fluff piece about Pierre Desir getting healthy
Lets hope more information comes out by the end of the week
This is all pretty amazing
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It's sad that I am more interested in this than anything that the players do in training camp.
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Fake Twitter account that Manish started and tried to pass off as Gase's shadow account.
I remember that, a freaking clown show. I actually enjoy the Jets more since I've stopped paying attention to sports "journalists."
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Trying to figure out why Manish is still posting Twitter coverage of the Jets
Presumably, it's because he still has a jets beat writer, and that will likely change if/when any sort of (if one exists?) appeals process ends?
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This bitch is trying to stir up trouble ...of course. And he also deactivated all comments on Twitter.
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This bitch is trying to stir up trouble ...of course. And he also deactivated all comments on Twitter.
I hope his firing whenever he loses whatever appeal process exists is very public.
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I hope he tries to carry on as a Jets beat reporter with no credentials and no access. That would be freaking hilarious
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I hope he still try’s to carry on as a Jets beat reporter with no credentials and no access. That would be freaking hilarious
Currently what he's doing
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Currently what he's doing
I hope the appeal process is less than a week, and it gets denied.
Unfortunately, because the DN is looking for that type of writing/click bait I imagine his replacement will do things similarly.
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I hope the appeal process is less than a week, and it gets denied.
Unfortunately, because the DN is looking for that type of writing/click bait I imagine his replacement will do things similarly.
Is he appealing?
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I hope the appeal process is less than a week, and it gets denied.
Unfortunately, because the DN is looking for that type of writing/click bait I imagine his replacement will do things similarly.
Everyone hated Cimini for doing the same thing when he was there, then he left and people decided he wasn't so bad after all.
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I just want to know what Mehta did
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Is he appealing?
I would imagine if he / the NYDN wasn't appealing he would be removed already.
If he doesn't have credentials and isn't getting them back, then why would the NYDN keep him employed in this role?
Thats the only evidence I have for his appealing the decision
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I hope the appeal process is less than a week, and it gets denied.
Unfortunately, because the DN is looking for that type of writing/click bait I imagine his replacement will do things similarly.
That was my thought, but if their schtick is getting their writers banned from the league then they might be reconsidering their strategy.
Either that or they'll just have the next one sign an agreement to not create burner Twitter accounts.
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I just want to know what Mehta did
Cuckold Gase
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Nope. Not doing that one.
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Cuckold Gase
The NFL doesn't just pull a writer's credentials because the coach doesn't get along with them.
Gase clearly doesn't like Cimini either but he's still out there.
Manish did something different.
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I just want to know what Mehta did
I sent this thread to Roger Goodell
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Cuckold Gase
The night of Thanksgiving dinner 2019
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I sent this thread to Roger Goodell
He will hire a firm to investigate and then burn the tapes
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The NFL doesn't just pull a writer's credentials because the coach doesn't get along with them.
Gase clearly doesn't like Cimini either but he's still out there.
Manish did something different.
I agree, but Cimini's ESPN. No way the NFL is pulling ESPN credentials the way they can with a local tabloid; they'd have a quiet word in someone's ear in Bristol and tell them to deal with it.
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I'd forgotten this until today but didn't Mehta accidentally tweet a NYDN article from his burner account, only to delete it and retweet it from his own account shortly thereafter? If that whole episode was going to result in him losing his credentials, shouldn't that have already happened?
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Also, as much as we may have detested Cimini while he was writing for the NYDN, that was mostly for his near-constant negativity/"glass half empty" attitude, not for being unprofessional or putting out false stories. It's honestly a bit insulting to compare him to Mehta.
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The NFL doesn't just pull a writer's credentials because the coach doesn't get along with them.
Gase clearly doesn't like Cimini either but he's still out there.
Manish did something different.
Fucked Gase’s wife on Thanksgiving?
Edit: freak you, SFD
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Never read him and won't miss him. Between Costello's Twitter and this forum I keep up with the Jets without the nonsense.
Costello is a marxist
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Need to get Cimini to ask Gase if Manish fucked his wife
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Need to get Cimini to ask Gase if Manish fucked his wife
Or Leberfeld...if you’re willing to wait a few weeks for the result
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I really want to hear what he actually did. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone corroborate Boomer and Gio’s report.
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I wonder if it has anything to do with Jamal Adams?
Manish helped steer that entire situation and he and Adams always got along. I've talked in the past about how Jamal had been chummy with Manish in postgame interviews, even after bad losses when Adams was throwing a tantrum with everyone else.
If Manish was tampering with the operations of the team, above and beyond simple reporting, I'd say that would be grounds for losing your credentials.
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I wonder if it has anything to do with Jamal Adams?
Manish helped steer that entire situation and he and Adams always got along. I've talked in the past about how Jamal had been chummy with Manish in postgame interviews, even after bad losses when Adams was throwing a tantrum with everyone else.
If Manish was tampering with the operations of the team, above and beyond simple reporting, I'd say that would be grounds for losing your credentials.
Makes sense.
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I wonder if it has anything to do with Jamal Adams?
Manish helped steer that entire situation and he and Adams always got along. I've talked in the past about how Jamal had been chummy with Manish in postgame interviews, even after bad losses when Adams was throwing a tantrum with everyone else.
If Manish was tampering with the operations of the team, above and beyond simple reporting, I'd say that would be grounds for losing your credentials.
That’s an interesting theory and one that I could see.
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That’s an interesting theory and one that I could see.
It’s also much more relevant time wise in comparison to the Wyatt story which in the landscape of the world right now was a very very long time ago
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It’s also much more relevant time wise in comparison to the Wyatt story which in the landscape of the world right now was a very very long time ago
I think recent is a better word than relevant here.
It’s likely that it’s not just one incident. If one thing was enough to do it I feel like it would have been more well-circulated in the media. Right now no one is really talking about it. I’m thinking it’s been a culmination of several things, including the Wyatt account and the Jamal interview.
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I think recent is a better word than relevant here.
It’s likely that it’s not just one incident. If one thing was enough to do it I feel like it would have been more well-circulated in the media. Right now no one is really talking about it. I’m thinking it’s been a culmination of several things, including the Wyatt account and the Jamal interview.
That would make a lot of sense. It has likely been a series of events that the Jets finally presented and said "Enough is enough."
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That would make a lot of sense. It has likely been a series of events that the Jets finally presented and said "Enough is enough."
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I think recent is a better word than relevant here.
It’s likely that it’s not just one incident. If one thing was enough to do it I feel like it would have been more well-circulated in the media. Right now no one is really talking about it. I’m thinking it’s been a culmination of several things, including the Wyatt account and the Jamal interview.
For what it's worth, I talked to someone who may or may not have deeper insights into this situation. And it has nothing to do with Jamal or the Wyatt thing.
I was told it has to do with a history of behind the scenes behavior from Manish that helped him get his inside sources, that will surprise absolutely nobody when the details come to light.
And possibly Manish crossing unprofessional lines regarding key jets leadership families.
And something something something Manish at a baseball game.
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For what it's worth, I talked to someone who may or may not have deeper insights into this situation. And it has nothing to do with Jamal or the Wyatt thing.
I was told it has to do with a history of behind the scenes behavior from Manish that helped him get his inside sources, that will surprise absolutely nobody when the details come to light.
And possibly Manish crossing unprofessional lines regarding key jets leadership families.
And something something something Manish at a baseball game.
Does said source have any idea when the info will be released?
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Does said source have any idea when the info will be released?
I asked no idea
But I'd imagine that if nothings published next week then a lot of what I posted above could be complete nonsense.
Though based on the perception of Manish, everything I heard was entirely believable
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I asked no idea
But I'd imagine that if nothings published next week then a lot of what I posted above could be complete nonsense.
Though based on the perception of Manish, everything I heard was entirely believable
I would say that I’ll be surprised if details surface. Manish certainly won’t release them as it would likely end his career in the industry. I can’t imagine the Jets will. If they were going to it would be done already. And what other reporter on the beat is going to dig into this? If they were in a similar spot, they would hope their colleagues wouldn’t bring the story to light.
That said I hope we do get details and somebody will put them out there.
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I would say that I’ll be surprised if details surface. Manish certainly won’t release them as it would likely end his career in the industry. I can’t imagine the Jets will. If they were going to it would be done already. And what other reporter on the beat is going to dig into this? If they were in a similar spot, they would hope their colleagues wouldn’t bring the story to light.
That said I hope we do get details and somebody will put them out there.
Well Manish is essentially banned from the NFL for life for unprofessional behavior. So I don't see why anyone would stand up for him.
Not to mention if anything that I heard is true (which I'll be entirely honest it's totally possible some of it is, it's possible none of it is)
Then it should easily make its way out in the near future
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whose dick was he sckin for inside scoops
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Dcm knows a guy who mows Manish's lawn for cap space.
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Well Manish is essentially banned from the NFL for life for unprofessional behavior. So I don't see why anyone would stand up for him.
Not to mention if anything that I heard is true (which I'll be entirely honest it's totally possible some of it is, it's possible none of it is)
Then it should easily make its way out in the near future
What did you hear? Post more details.
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Well Manish is essentially banned from the NFL for life for unprofessional behavior. So I don't see why anyone would stand up for him.
Not to mention if anything that I heard is true (which I'll be entirely honest it's totally possible some of it is, it's possible none of it is)
Then it should easily make its way out in the near future
I don't know the answer to any of the following questions, but perhaps you do since you know a guy in the biz,
1. Are there different levels of revoked credentials? Suspended for a few weeks? Or is it purely for life?
2. If he has no creds, and no hope of ever getting them back why is he still employed at NYDN? Is there some sort of appeal process for the decision?
3. If nothing comes out in the next week or so will you tell us what you heard he is responsible for?
4. Is your source 'important enough' that if you post details on a jets message board that they could be found out that easily?
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I don't know the answer to any of the following questions, but perhaps you do since you know a guy in the biz,
1. Are there different levels of revoked credentials? Suspended for a few weeks? Or is it purely for life?
2. If he has no creds, and no hope of ever getting them back why is he still employed at NYDN? Is there some sort of appeal process for the decision?
3. If nothing comes out in the next week or so will you tell us what you heard he is responsible for?
4. Is your source 'important enough' that if you post details on a jets message board that they could be found out that easily?
1) the exact language I heard was "indefinitely/forever". Which makes me think there is different levels, and that Manish is done for his career in regard to the nfl
2) I asked this question as well, but they don't work for the NYDN so couldn't help me there.
3) yes ,though at that point I'll assume most of what I heard is BS, unless any specific details inevitably match up
4) I mean they specifically asked me not to say anything (thus I was only as specific as I could be to suggest that they may have a clue, without posting anything incriminating). They're definitely not important but the people they have access to are.
I'm definitely not trying to act all Incarcerated Bob here. If I was I wouldn't be posting this on a message board with like 6 people.
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For what it's worth, I talked to someone who may or may not have deeper insights into this situation. And it has nothing to do with Jamal or the Wyatt thing.
I was told it has to do with a history of behind the scenes behavior from Manish that helped him get his inside sources, that will surprise absolutely nobody when the details come to light.
And possibly Manish crossing unprofessional lines regarding key jets leadership families.
And something something something Manish at a baseball game.
This is such a Manish post
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This is such a Manish post
Haha hey I intentionally included two fairly specific things that would easily be confirmable if any of what I heads was true.
And I'm certainly not going to be adamant that things are true. While I trust the person I talked to. I imagine that if anything was rock solid truth then it would be published by someone somewhere, even if on social media. And if it's not, then it's probably a glorified game of telephone.
But regardless I will specifically mention everything I heard in a few days, just to not end ho getting any blowback on a friend.
But there really isn't a ton more (that I know) than what I posted. Just a little more specific, with one specific example
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Well we all will await with bated breath for DCMs most important post of all time
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Well we all will await with bated breath for DCMs most important post of all time
Worst day at the airport
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let's be real, DCM would do a better 'incarcerated bob' than incarcerated bob
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Worst day at the airport
I would do anything to read that thread
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https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1300936270089195527?s=21
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If he's barred from Jets and league property why is he still posting about them?
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If he's barred from Jets and league property why is he still posting about them?
Because nydn hasn't fired him so he has do do some kind of work.
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https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1300936270089195527?s=21
Mannish late to the table - just sayin
https://www.thejetoffensive.com/index.php/topic,4958.msg382349.html#msg382349
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Mannish late to the table - just sayin
https://www.thejetoffensive.com/index.php/topic,4958.msg382349.html#msg382349
Are you Manish tho
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Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes
#Jets ownership bought out an entire hotel walking distance from the facility for the entirety of training camp.
That must have cost a pretty penny. Not cheap to do that.
"cash flow restrictions"
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"cash flow restrictions"
When did they do that? Is that where all the players had been staying? If so why didn’t it get reported before now?
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Trump Hotel
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Trump Hotel
Anchor Inn
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Anchor Inn
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Are you Manish tho
No but did give him excrement at a Cortland training camp though.
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https://twitter.com/briancoz/status/1301538939791192065?s=21
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https://twitter.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1301539115112886273?s=21
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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These dudes are so catty.
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I don't get it.
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I don't get it.
Costello is saying Manish just parrots other beat writers since his credentials were pulled.
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Hilarious.
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It's obvious that none of the other team beat writers respect Manish... and that should tell you all you need to know.
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Costello is saying Manish just parrots other beat writers since his credentials were pulled.
Ahh
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It's obvious that none of the other team beat writers respect Manish... and that should tell you all you need to know.
But they don't disrespect him enough to either find out why his creds were pulled, or tell us why they are gone.
If it turns out Mehta loses whatever appeals process, I wonder if the NYDN has Costello write a story on why, so that the public blames Manish and doesn't put any blame on the paper itself.
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Well what I was told was that Manish was blackmailing staff/employees telling them he would give them fluffed up coverage if they gave him insider knowledge and the opposite if they did not.
Apparently he also had gone up to Joe Douglas 11 year old kid when he was with friends at a Phillies game and basically asked him all kinds of excrement, and then apparently texted Douglas something about his kid (some kind of context like hey I know what your kids doing right now creepy weird way), thoguh I found that part weird and wasn't given nearly enough context.
I have zero to what degree this is true as its not published so I can't say it meets journalistic standards for publishing. But I do find the source reliable enoguh that I believe it or at least most of it, and it would certainly explain why Manish got an indefinite/lifetime ban from the league. Especially provoking an NFL GM and or approaching their young child without one of their parents present.
I figured a more concrete story would have come out by now with details, so that's what I got 🤷♂️.
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The second part definitely sounds like the exact type of thing that would get a guy blackballed from the league. For the sake of everyone involved I hope he didn’t do that to JDs kid.
The first part sounds exactly like the excrement Mehta would do. Offering media praise for reward and negative pieces/articles on players who don’t give him behind the scenes stuff. Definitely feels like the reason why he has undying love for certain guys and weird hate for others
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Journalistic integrity
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It puts his articles on Gase in a slightly different light.
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https://theathletic.com/podcast/56-cant-wait/?episode=64
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if the excrement about JDs kid is true, holy freak how can NYDN keep this piece of trash employed? how dosent JD have a restraining order against him?
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Manish carved the turkey at the Gase family Thanksgiving
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if the excrement about JDs kid is true, holy freak how can NYDN keep this piece of trash employed? how dosent JD have a restraining order against him?
He might. As far as I know restraining orders may be public record, but if you don't know to go looking for one, how would you know it's there if no one told you?
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We should probably slow our roll if we are basing it off dcm
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We should probably slow our roll if we are basing it off dcm
Is dcm more or less reliable than Manish?
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Is dcm more or less reliable than Manish?
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Is dcm more or less reliable than Manish?
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dcm’s source is Heimerdinger
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-joe-douglas-super-bowl-20200908-2iccad7qmjblddwkxj7eba7oti-story.html
This is one of the dumbest things Manish has ever written
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People in the organization believed that Douglas was closing in on signing free-agent defensive back Logan Ryan in May. Things went haywire after a Daily News story on May 12 cited team sources that believed Douglas was about to land Ryan. The general manager responded to the New story by curiously halting talks for an extended period of time, according to people in the organization.
lmao
so the Jets didn't sign Logan Ryan to play safety for $7.5M because Manish broke the deal before it happened
he should be fired for this garbage
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Well.
the rookie GM made his fair share of missteps that exacerbated situations. He fumbled the Jamal Adams contract negotiations ....
Douglas deserves credit for making the best out of a bad situation that he was partly responsible for creating
I agree with that, and have all along as you know.
This is also true:
Douglas signed a litany of middling players to one-year or de facto one-year contracts.
And so is this:
The eternal Kool-Aid imbibers and propagandists will close their eyes, click their heels and wish for better days without seeing reality right in front of them.
I have no idea whether the money thing with the owners is true, it sounds semi-plausible but we'll probably never know. I also have no idea about the Ryan thing but it sounds weird.
What I do know is that we have a crap roster, again, and are staring down the barrel of a excrement season, again. I wonder if the roster once again serves as the excuse for Gase. I fear it might. Certainly I have still seen nothing from Douglas that makes me think he's going to be the man to turn things around, even if his failure to do so might not be entirely his fault.
Still, there's always 2021.
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Were there any free agents worth signing to big contracts?
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Were there any free agents worth signing to big contracts?
Conklin, Bulaga, Anderson and Lawson are all better players than anyone we signed, and all play positions of significant need.
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Conklin, Bulaga, Anderson and Lawson are all better players than anyone we signed, and all play positions of significant need.
We tried on Conklin and were outbid. Douglas also went after Thuney but New England franchised him at the last second.
Bryan Bulaga is old, injury prone and making $10M per season. Not worth it.
Shaq Lawson stinks.
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Were there any free agents worth signing to big contracts?
The only guy I think is worth what he got paid was Conklin. If we were gonna give Fant that much money on a flier/please dear god I hope so deal, then Conklin would have been worth that much to us.
The other guy worth bringing back was Robbie Anderson. However, I do think if healthy, his production will not be worth double the cost of Perriman's production. If Perriman is healthy, I bet that gamble pays off for us. Frankly I am fine with that decision even now, given that we have Mims in the fold. Now Mims health throws a wrench into things, but hopefully he is healthy and can contribute as the season goes on.
If Thuney hit the market, he also would have been worth it. But he did not.
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We signed Breshad Perriman for half the cost of Robby Anderson.
Neither player is great.
Anderson was only good at one thing. He won't be missed that much.
I'd rather save the cap space than spend it on players that disappear.
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We tried on Conklin and were outbid.
And yet, to Manish's point:
Only two teams have more than the Jets’ $31.3 million in salary cap space.
Why are we being outbid on players we need and want, when we can compete financially?
Bryan Bulaga is old, injury prone and making $10M per season. Not worth it.
He's the exact same money as George Fant on the exact same length of contract. Bulaga might be past his peak, but at least he's had one and we know what he's capable of. We paid Bulaga money for a guy who might never be capable of starting at the role.
Shaq Lawson stinks.
.... and yet, to my previous point, would still be our best edge rusher if he were on our roster.
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Why are we being outbid on players we need and want, when we can compete financially?
Because Douglas isn't a bitch like Maccagan that gets bodies by agents. He had a set price in mind and didn't break.
Spending money just to spend it leads to contracts like the one we gave Trumaine Johnson.
He's the exact same money as George Fant on the exact same length of contract. Bulaga might be past his peak, but at least he's had one and we know what he's capable of. We paid Bulaga money for a guy who might never be capable of starting at the role.
Length of contract matters. We don't want to be tied to a declining player. Escapability and guaranteed money matter.
.... and yet, to my previous point, would still be our best edge rusher if he were on our roster.
He's not better than Jordan Jenkins
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Anyways, I was talking about the Logan Ryan blurb.
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Because Douglas isn't a bitch like Maccagan that gets bodies by agents. He had a set price in mind and didn't break.
Spending money just to spend it leads to contracts like the one we gave Trumaine Johnson.
I don't think Conklin and TruJo are comparable. Sometimes players just quit, you can't legislate for that.
Length of contract matters. We don't want to be tied to a declining player.
But we're happy to be tied to one that may never have a peak from which to decline? I know which feels riskier.
He's not better than Jordan Jenkins
If Lawson hadn't been drafted in the first he'd be seen as a solid pro who has improved every year. I think the argument vs Jenkins is there, he's definitely a better athlete and would bring a different dimension to our defense.
Again, the point is that Douglas passed up or missed out on a number of opportunities to improve the team in FA. His job is hard because we're not attractive compared to pretty much any other team in the league, but it's his job to work past that. He had and has the cap space to do it, and chose not to.
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Anyways, I was talking about the Logan Ryan blurb.
I don't know why Manish is trying to make himself part of that story, but it wouldn't wholly surprise me if we wanted Ryan and for whatever reason were unable to persuade him.
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And yet, to Manish's point:
Why are we being outbid on players we need and want, when we can compete financially?
He's the exact same money as George Fant on the exact same length of contract. Bulaga might be past his peak, but at least he's had one and we know what he's capable of. We paid Bulaga money for a guy who might never be capable of starting at the role.
.... and yet, to my previous point, would still be our best edge rusher if he were on our roster.
I'm not going to echo H's sentiments, the guy has already covered big reasons why not for all 3.
In my eyes, the only 'prize' FA this year that was something we desperately needed was Conklin. I would have paid him, and been more than fine being tied to him for a few years to do it. But the other 2, I wouldn't have wanted to be tied to beyond 1 year. Fant we are able to get out of after this year because he was an unknown, Bulaga would NOT have signed the same deal Fant had. As for Lawson, he's not a premium player, and I would bet he has a comparable (at best) season to Jenkins this year. While you could argue that's worth paying for to have opposite Jenkins, you can't pretend he would be worth what he would be getting paid.
To me, last years FA crop SUCKED for what we desperately needed. Next year's will hopefully be better. If it isn't, then we will largely see similar things happen to this year, Average FA's paid Average money, or underrated guys getting paid average money with a chance to jump up a tier in play.
If a superstar difference maker hits the market, then we would go after that guy for sure. But if an above average (top 7-15 player at his position) hits the market (much like Conklin this year), I imagine we set our price, and if the guy takes it great, if he doesn't, then we don't push the budget, and we let him sign elsewhere. You may or may not agree with that philosophy, but that appears to be JD's plan. It will protect us from bad/bullshit contracts like Trumaine Johnson, but it also means we probably won't sign a ton of above average guys at their positions if they are also the 'best the FA market has to offer' either, because somebody else will overpay, where we won't. Which means we will need to draft well in order to get those guys ourselves.
In the past however many regimes, we have been so freaking terrible at drafting, that the only way we could actually acquire talent, is if someone else let it walk. That's how all of our good teams in the last 20 years have been formed. In reality, the best way to build, is to draft well, and acquire a missing piece he or there in FA. We aren't comfortable as fans with this plan, because almost all of us have NEVER seen it work. The only plans that work are overspending on FA's, so that's what we are hardwired to see and want, even if it isn't what's best for us.
How JD handles the first 2 days of the 2021 draft is going to shape this franchise for the next five years, and quite frankly will determine how soon we return to the postseason. We need him to be as good as the guys he learned from to drag us from this hell hole, and that includes not only drafting guys, but trading down for more cheap capital both in 2021 and in 2022. If we supplement that with 2-3 strong FA signings, and this train could be rolling in 2021 with a bright future headed into 2022, especially if Seattle has a bad season in either of the next 2 years.
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I don't know why Manish is trying to make himself part of that story, but it wouldn't wholly surprise me if we wanted Ryan and for whatever reason were unable to persuade him.
Manish is saying the ONLY reason we didn't sign him is because he broke the story before it happened, so Douglas backed off to make him look stupid.
It's ridiculous.
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I don't think Conklin and TruJo are comparable. Sometimes players just quit, you can't legislate for that.
Okay, so lets compare him to CJ Mosley.
Another contract given out just because we had the money to spend.
You don't win consistently in the NFL by throwing out big contracts. It gets you into trouble quickly.
Douglas very clearly has a plan to build through the draft. He's already cleaned up a lot of the mess that Maccagnan and Idzik left behind.
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But we're happy to be tied to one that may never have a peak from which to decline? I know which feels riskier.
Bulaga is guaranteed twice as much money. George Fant can be released after this season if it doesn't work out. We are not tied to Fant.
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I'm fine with what Douglas has done. Of course I'd like to have seen us get a few bigger-time players, but it doesn't make sense to overpay by a ton when we have so many holes. I'd rather overpay when we need a piece to get deep in the post-season. Right now just draft well, fill in holes with reasonable contract vets until draft picks take over roles.
It's hard to be patient, but I think we will see some big spending next year when the starters start filling in with draft picks. Plus who knows whether Gase is still here in 2021. A coaching change will certainly affect things.
Conklin isn't worth $14 million per year.
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Bad teams overpay.
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Bad teams overpay.
a) I'm not suggesting that we overpay, at least not as an ongoing strategy, only that we compete
b) We are a bad team
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We are a bad team
Do you want this team to stay bad? Mike Maccagan handed out several huge contracts and this didn't get any better.
Joe Douglas did "compete" for Jack Conklin. He didn't bend over like Maccagnan would have.
You are being incredibly impatient about this. He has a six year contract and asked for it because this mess will take a while to clean up. Lets see how he drafts and how he handles free agency next offseason.
He put the Jets in a very good position to get good in a hurry. We have several high draft picks and a ton of cap space. That's ideal for a rebuilding team.
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Do you want this team to stay bad? Mike Maccagan handed out several huge contracts and this didn't get any better.
Joe Douglas did "compete" for Jack Conklin. He didn't bend over like Maccagnan would have.
You are being incredibly impatient about this. He has a six year contract and asked for it because this mess will take a while to clean up. Lets see how he drafts and how he handles free agency next offseason.
He put the Jets in a very good position to get good in a hurry. We have several high draft picks and a ton of cap space. That's ideal for a rebuilding team.
I'm not being impatient. I'm just expecting continued failure, the ruining of Sam Darnold, and the continued loss of any player we draft who is actually good, because that's what we've seen under Gase and Douglas so far. When either of them demonstrates an ability to actually do something good I'll be delighted to recognise it as such.
And before you say it, I don't recognise the return on the Adams trade as being a good move because although it was a good return, the message it sent was absolutely freaking atrocious and it should never have been allowed to happen. Good players will continue to treat the Jets as nothing but a payday and a stepping stone until this culture is fixed and so far Gase and Douglas are perpetuating it. Any player drafted by the Jets in the top three rounds will be disappointed that it's the Jets; any player drafted in the late rounds will probably be happy about it because it means they have more chance of playing time given the absolutely lack of premier talent.
This is going to be a excrement season with a excrement roster and excrement coaching and I see absolutely nothing to be positive about right now.
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I'm not being impatient. I'm just expecting continued failure, the ruining of Sam Darnold, and the continued loss of any player we draft who is actually good, because that's what we've seen under Gase and Douglas so far. When either of them demonstrates an ability to actually do something good I'll be delighted to recognise it as such.
And before you say it, I don't recognise the return on the Adams trade as being a good move because although it was a good return, the message it sent was absolutely freaking atrocious and it should never have been allowed to happen. Good players will continue to treat the Jets as nothing but a payday and a stepping stone until this culture is fixed and so far Gase and Douglas are perpetuating it. Any player drafted by the Jets in the top three rounds will be disappointed that it's the Jets; any player drafted in the late rounds will probably be happy about it because it means they have more chance of playing time given the absolutely lack of premier talent.
This is going to be a excrement season with a excrement roster and excrement coaching and I see absolutely nothing to be positive about right now.
Adams was acting like a bitch and I honestly don’t think JD would have traded him away for less than a kings ransom, which he got. The number of non QB players that got traded for 2 first round picks, a 3rd round pick and a starting caliber player can be counted on 1 hand in NFL history. That’s a far better deal than we deserved and definitely insanely better than we should have expected.
But setting that deal aside, the best way to change a culture is to win. As you know winning cures all ailments. If we won, then Adams wouldn’t have wanted out. But aside from basically Adams and Maye virtually every draft pick in the Maccagnan era was a disaster on the field. As such we couldn’t feel talented enough teams to win.
You know what else will help? Having a legitimately good coach. I am 100% in favor of replacing Gase. Hopefully we either win a super bowl this year or Fire Gase. If, as you and I both believe Gase will be sent packing after this year, the easiest way to bring new talent in for a new system is to have a good amount of cap space, which we will have next offseason.
As far as I’m concerned Douglas is making moves that give us a chance to be highly competitive in 2021 if things break right, and a playoff contender if things don’t all go our way.
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I'm fine with what Douglas has done. Of course I'd like to have seen us get a few bigger-time players, but it doesn't make sense to overpay by a ton when we have so many holes. I'd rather overpay when we need a piece to get deep in the post-season. Right now just draft well, fill in holes with reasonable contract vets until draft picks take over roles.
It's hard to be patient, but I think we will see some big spending next year when the starters start filling in with draft picks. Plus who knows whether Gase is still here in 2021. A coaching change will certainly affect things.
Conklin isn't worth $14 million per year.
Debatable
Prior to COVID we were seeing a huge swing in cap and contract valuation and unquestionably is a contract many if not all of us would have been happy with.
How good that contract is now, will be dictated by the cap for the next few years and COVIDs impact on it
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I feel like the Adams interview with Mehta made the relationship untenable. He wanted to force his way out and succeeded but Douglas held on u til he got what he wanted so both parties got the best of the ultimate situation.
As for the WRs, I still think letting a consistently healthy WR walk in favor of a notoriously injured one is a very risky, if not bad, call, especially if we only take one WR in the draft. I know next year is the deeper WR draft and we are now better set up for it but the important thing is keeping Darnold in the best environment possible. Nothing about Robbie's contract is prohibitive for letting him go next year in favor of better talent. If Perriman stays on the field then the gamble might work out but coming out of TC that doesn't seem so likely.
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Every dollar we have next year is basically worth 3 in purchasing power
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Adams was acting like a bitch and I honestly don’t think JD would have traded him away for less than a kings ransom, which he got. The number of non QB players that got traded for 2 first round picks, a 3rd round pick and a starting caliber player can be counted on 1 hand in NFL history. That’s a far better deal than we deserved and definitely insanely better than we should have expected.
But setting that deal aside, the best way to change a culture is to win. As you know winning cures all ailments. If we won, then Adams wouldn’t have wanted out. But aside from basically Adams and Maye virtually every draft pick in the Maccagnan era was a disaster on the field. As such we couldn’t feel talented enough teams to win.
You know what else will help? Having a legitimately good coach. I am 100% in favor of replacing Gase. Hopefully we either win a super bowl this year or Fire Gase. If, as you and I both believe Gase will be sent packing after this year, the easiest way to bring new talent in for a new system is to have a good amount of cap space, which we will have next offseason.
As far as I’m concerned Douglas is making moves that give us a chance to be highly competitive in 2021 if things break right, and a playoff contender if things don’t all go our way.
This is where I am at as well.
Gase is complete trash and is walking cancer.
Joe D deserves more time to do his thing before we rush to judgement.
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Joe D was on WFAN this morning and dodged the "Why did you pull Manish's credentials?" question. Said there were a lot of people involved with the decision.
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Joe D was on WFAN this morning and dodged the "Why did you pull Manish's credentials?" question. Said there were a lot of people involved with the decision.
So it actually happens
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So it actually happens
Affirmative
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How is this MF'er still employed?
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How is this MF'er still employed?
How is the NYDN still employed?
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How is this MF'er still employed?
How is the NYDN still employed?
At a guess, by virtue of the fact that Jets fans spend three times as much time discussing them and their output as all the other Jets beat writers combined.
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At a guess, by virtue of the fact that Jets fans spend three times as much time discussing them and their output as all the other Jets beat writers combined.
Be that as it may, you'd think they'd eventually want to employ a beat writer that has the access that any beat writer is expected to have. Not to mention one with a modicum of integrity.
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Be that as it may, you'd think they'd eventually want to employ a beat writer that has the access that any beat writer is expected to have. Not to mention one with a modicum of integrity.
Charles McDonald has been covering the team for NYDN.
He is a gigantic player of the pink oboe but he knows football.
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Manish was a really good reporter when he was with the Star Ledger. Everyone, including all the beat writers, congratulated him when he got the NYDN job.
The Daily News has been in trouble for a long time. There have been a few rounds of layoffs, and the rumors have been rampant that management was pushing reporters to run clickbait headlines to drive ad-supported traffic online.
I'm not absolving Manish of any of his wrongdoing, but I wouldn't be the least surprised if he had been heavily pressured to do whatever it took to get insider info for stories. If so, he's not going to be fired because then he's under no obligation to keep his mouth shut.
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Manish was a really good reporter when he was with the Star Ledger. Everyone, including all the beat writers, congratulated him when he got the NYDN job.
The Daily News has been in trouble for a long time. There have been a few rounds of layoffs, and the rumors have been rampant that management was pushing reporters to run clickbait headlines to drive ad-supported traffic online.
I'm not absolving Manish of any of his wrongdoing, but I wouldn't be the least surprised if he had been heavily pressured to do whatever it took to get insider info for stories. If so, he's not going to be fired because then he's under no obligation to keep his mouth shut.
He might not get fired but he will get reassigned at some point. NYDN isn’t going to have a guy running the beat that can’t get access to facilities. Unless Manish is able to really “step up” (read muck up) his articles so much that he gets even more clicks than ever before. I have to imagine that falls away eventually without access
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They'll keep Manish employed as long as he makes them money.
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They'll keep Manish employed as long as he makes them money.
Bingo
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Dumbass Jets fans continually talking about Manish and keeping him relevant
Mods, delete this thread
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Dumbass Jets fans continually talking about Manish and keeping him relevant
Mods, delete this thread
You're a mod.
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You're a mod.
Mods, ban this malfeasant
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Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
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A typo, of course. Live tweeting a zoom call a little trickier than regurgitating what others have already tweeted.
lulz
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Hahaha
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1306352985618997248?s=20
LOOOOOOOL
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https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1306359358650036225?s=20
Connor chimes in
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https://twitter.com/MikeVacc/status/1306361392967094274?s=20
amazing
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I really wish somebody would just publicly spill the beans.
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Beautiful. Fire this dude, already.
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This is much better than discussing the actual Jets
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Best part is how Manish pretends he doesn’t see everyone roasting him
Just gonna tweet right through it
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Best part is how Manish pretends he doesn’t see everyone roasting him
Just gonna tweet right through it
He might not. He went on a massive blocking spree when his creds were pulled and has continued to do so with basically anyone that mentions the topic to him.
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He might not. He went on a massive blocking spree when his creds were pulled and has continued to do so with basically anyone that mentions the topic to him.
Do your part and send him screenshots
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It was also over much, much more than a burner account. Manish did some pretty screwed up stuff. Including harassing Joe Douglas’ child at a baseball game.
https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1306365988393320449?s=21
EXTEND DCM!
I NEVER DOUBTED HIM
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Isn’t Joe Douglas kid like 8 years old?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/evanrobertswfan/status/952972235094052864?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eios%7Ctwgr%5Eother
Haaaaaaaaa
The first post in this thread. Manish had been clowning for far longer but I felt it finally had to be addressed.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ErxGuBUHPSU
4:00
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The first post in this thread. Manish had been clowning for far longer but I felt it finally had to be addressed.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ErxGuBUHPSU
4:00
At 15:00 Manish says “Lamar Jackson will not be a good QB in the NFL” and extrapolates
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DCM is da boss. People are going crazy asking for reasons and we have them all right 😂
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DCM! DCM! DCM!
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We are making dcm a mod
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We are making dcm a mod
Oh excrement...you thought i was serious?
I suppose we can put him in charge of the JO salary cap
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dcm will fix Tapatalk
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dcm will fix Tapatalk
I already hurt JE's feelings with that one.
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https://twitter.com/mipod69/status/1306427143115636742?s=21
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https://twitter.com/mipod69/status/1306427143115636742?s=21
https://twitter.com/jetstank/status/1306433973900505090?s=21
https://twitter.com/jpens4real21/status/1306434601615855616?s=21
https://twitter.com/tony_cang/status/1306547095621505024?s=21
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https://twitter.com/mipod69/status/1306427143115636742?s=21
Not Manish related, but when we were at YDKF, I said something to Evan Silva (formerly of Rotoworld) on Twitter and he DM'd me a link to our forum where I called him a "fat ginger"
I have the receipts
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Not Manish related, but when we were at YDKF, I said something to Evan Silva (formerly of Rotoworld) on Twitter and he DM'd me a link to our forum where I called him a "fat ginger"
I have the receipts
How is that possible that he found that? Reeks of insecurity.
He was who I hated before I moved on to Ben Allbright.
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Not Manish related, but when we were at YDKF, I said something to Evan Silva (formerly of Rotoworld) on Twitter and he DM'd me a link to our forum where I called him a "fat ginger"
I have the receipts
I would be interested to see evidence from him that he isn't a fat ginger, although I don't entirely believe you as I'm fairly sure the words "Patriot-loving" and "bundle of sticks" would have been involved also.
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I would be interested to see evidence from him that he isn't a fat ginger, although I don't entirely believe you as I'm fairly sure the words "Patriot-loving" and "bundle of sticks" would have been involved also.
Those insults were also included
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How is that possible that he found that? Reeks of insecurity.
He was who I hated before I moved on to Ben Allbright.
No one can convince me that Allbright is not a pedo.
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Those insults were also included
Not insults if they're statements of fact.
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https://twitter.com/jetstank/status/1306433973900505090?s=21
https://twitter.com/jpens4real21/status/1306434601615855616?s=21
https://twitter.com/tony_cang/status/1306547095621505024?s=21
Manish is a lady garden, but this is stupid.
Just people bragging in hindsight to makethemselves feel smart.
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Jets roster management has been awful through 3 weeks.
Amateurish.
They need players who can help Sam Darnold.
Yet they will be carrying 4 QBs on the roster for a third consecutive week.
Who does that?
- Doesn’t Miss Mehta
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- Doesn’t Miss Mehta
I mean he sort of has a point but one is on the practice squad
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I mean he sort of has a point but one is on the practice squad
We’ve activated WRs from the practice squad for every game and David Fales is worthless
Edit: Mike White but same thing
We’re dressing 4 QBs today
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We’ve activated WRs from the practice squad for every game and David Fales is worthless
Edit: Mike White but same thing
We’re dressing 4 QBs today
If Flacco is getting full practices in we'll probably cut White soon.
Until Flacco's neck flares up again.
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Another reason taking a QB in the 4th round mde little sense. You draft him to be the longterm backup yet they don't trust him to be the backup.
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Sam Darnold is a genuinely good person. He wants to believe in the people around him... even if at least one of them says some pretty unfortunate things about him behind the scenes when he struggles.
He deserves better.
Manish
That’s gotta be directed at Costello and Hughes and what Gase says to the beat to direct their coverage. It’s easily apparent within their tweets/headlines
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gase is talking excrement about sam behind the scenes?
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gase is talking excrement about sam behind the scenes?
What do you think Gase said to Chris Johnson that was enough to get the freaking GM that hired him a few months earlier fired?
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It's funny how Manish with no press credentials is still scooping the sycophants on the beat. He was right about Gase from the outset and he's continuing to be proven right.
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It's funny how Manish with no press credentials is still scooping the sycophants on the beat. He was right about Gase from the outset and he's continuing to be proven right.
He was right about Gase from the outset? Are you sure about that?
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sports-adam-gase-dolphins-jets-coaching-search-20190109-story.html
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He was right about Gase from the outset? Are you sure about that?
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sports-adam-gase-dolphins-jets-coaching-search-20190109-story.html
Well, relatively speaking. He wasn't as prescient as me, but he was there well ahead of his derriere kissing colleagues.
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It's funny how Manish with no press credentials is still scooping the sycophants on the beat. He was right about Gase from the outset and he's continuing to be proven right.
https://twitter.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1316211815114776576?s=21
lmaooo
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https://twitter.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1316211815114776576?s=21
lmaooo
Costellos comment “I had to go too, it’s alright” haha
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Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN
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Adam Gase on the perception that he misused Le'Veon Bell:
"It's irrelevant at this point.... It didn't work out."
Like it didn't work out for Ryan Tannehill, Mike Gesicki, DeVante Parker, Robby Anderson, Kenyan Drake, Damien Williams, etc.
#TakeFlight
Boom
Headshot
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It’s actually very relevant. Where does this fucktard think the issue with Bell stems from?
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It’s actually very relevant. Where does this fucktard think the issue with Bell stems from?
Imagine giving a player a 4 yr deal worth 52 mil w/ 27 mil guaranteed....and calling his misuse "irrelevant" because of your own incompetence.
the buffoonery from this franchise knows no bounds.
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God I can't wait,
ANyone: " What's your take on Gase?"
Puck: "It's irrelevant at this point! He's fired"
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Imagine giving a player a 4 yr deal worth 52 mil w/ 27 mil guaranteed....and calling his misuse "irrelevant" because of your own incompetence.
Misuse is a narrative created by moronic press. Bell wasn't that good. We didn't use him in the slot because we have a good slot receiver. He certainly could've been used in the passing game more, but Bell just isn't a great player anymore.
And again, the current regime did not give Bell that contract so that actually is irrelevant.
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Misuse is a narrative created by moronic press. Bell wasn't that good. We didn't use him in the slot because we have a good slot receiver. He certainly could've been used in the passing game more, but Bell just isn't a great player anymore.
And again, the current regime did not give Bell that contract so that actually is irrelevant.
Let’s see if anyone picks him up.
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Misuse is a narrative created by moronic press. Bell wasn't that good. We didn't use him in the slot because we have a good slot receiver. He certainly could've been used in the passing game more, but Bell just isn't a great player anymore.
And again, the current regime did not give Bell that contract so that actually is irrelevant.
But what if he is?
I respect your opinions a ton, and I certainly think you're a lot better at being levelheaded than some of us, but players have been complaining about Gase for years. I know you've written them off as scrubs and/or malcontents, but where there's smoke there's usually fire.
Other than Peyton Manning, everything Gase touches turns to garbage
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But what if he is?
I respect your opinions a ton, and I certainly think you're a lot better at being levelheaded than some of us, but players have been complaining about Gase for years. I know you've written them off as scrubs and/or malcontents, but where there's smoke there's usually fire.
Other than Peyton Manning, everything Gase touches turns to garbage
Gase didn't touch Peyton, Peyton touched Gase. Peyton sodomized Gase to make a special treat for Jets fans.
Thanks a lot Peyton!
For the record Pyton sodomozed the Johnsons and us by default. freak Peyton, he should be arrested on sodomy and molestation charges.
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Gase didn't touch Peyton, Peyton touched Gase. Peyton sodomized Gase to make a special treat for Jets fans.
Thanks a lot Peyton!
For the record Pyton sodomozed the Johnsons and us by default. freak Peyton, he should be arrested on sodomy and molestation charges.
I didn't need more reasons to despise Peyton Manning
And yet, here we are
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I didn't need more reasons to despise Peyton Manning
And yet, here we are
I’m never getting Nationwide insurance.
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I’m never getting Nationwide insurance.
The State Farm commercials are so bad I hate Aaron Rodgers and Chris Paul now.
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The State Farm commercials are so bad I hate Aaron Rodgers and Chris Paul now.
The Progressive commercials with Baker Mayfield are infinitely worse
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i think i may have said this in the game thread the other day but hearing about the peyton manning - adam gase 'link' is so fcking annoying and not in tune with reality
manning was a HOFer both before and after gase. gase did not coach manning, manning coached gase and gase has been able to mooch off of this his entire 'head coach'-ing career
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The Progressive commercials with Baker Mayfield are infinitely worse
if we both do it we'll cut the time in half!
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i think i may have said this in the game thread the other day but hearing about the peyton manning - adam gase 'link' is so fcking annoying and not in tune with reality
manning was a HOFer both before and after gase. gase did not coach manning, manning coached gase and gase has been able to mooch off of this his entire 'head coach'-ing career
right??!
what did gase do? payton called his own plays, didnt he?
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The only thing Gase was successful at is fooling two excrement franchises into thinking he was the answer at head coach because he held Manning's jock strap during his career year.
He's a pompous piece of excrement, and I hope he never works in the league again.
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The only thing Gase was successful at is fooling two excrement franchises into thinking he was the answer at head coach because he held Manning's jock strap during his career year.
He's a pompous piece of excrement, and I hope he never works in the league again.
I hope he works in New England or Buffalo.
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I hope he works in New England or Buffalo.
I don’t think Gase gets another gig. He’s too pompous to be a position coach and I can’t see anyone valuing him as a HC or even an OC right now.
But I would love to see Dowell Loggains get a gig with the Bulls after Daboll becomes a HC somewhere this offseason.
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I hope he works in New England or Buffalo.
I'm sure now that his massage spa is excrement down, Kraft could use another fluffer
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-leveon-bell-coach-20201030-nee46jnhanew7hlupfs2qrrbiy-story.html
<3 Todd Haley
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-leveon-bell-coach-20201030-nee46jnhanew7hlupfs2qrrbiy-story.html
<3 Todd Haley
1. Adam Gase has no idea how to call a running game (or a passing game for that matter).
2. Bell's running style relies heavily on vision and patience which requires the offense to set their blocks and hold them, something our guards have never been able to do while Bell was here (and still can't).
His role is pretty much set as a change of pace back but I expect him to do some damage against this defense because, well, this defense kinda sucks.
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No credentials, all of the scoops
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Who is his source? Gase and Douglas hate him... where’s the rat?
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Who is his source? Gase and Douglas hate him... where’s the rat?
Who is Avery's agent?
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Who is his source? Gase and Douglas hate him... where’s the rat?
Wouldn't it be amazing if it was Johnson?
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Looks like a 2022 5th for Williamson and a 2022 7th.
I think Douglas sees the liklihood this draft season may be a bit of a crap shoot with the craziness of Covid impacting the evaluation process, it seems deliberate that we are trying to get 2022 picks
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No credentials, all of the scoops
Maybe this one came from the league and not the team.
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Looks like a 2022 5th for Williamson and a 2022 7th.
I think Douglas sees the liklihood this draft season may be a bit of a crap shoot with the craziness of Covid impacting the evaluation process, it seems deliberate that we are trying to get 2022 picks
Sounds like we swapped picks
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-adam-gase-20201102-zggy5x7zarcmxeejgiaqs7wbja-story.html
A fun article from Manish basically asking Gase how Manish's derriere tastes
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https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-adam-gase-20201102-zggy5x7zarcmxeejgiaqs7wbja-story.html
A fun article from Manish basically asking Gase how Manish's derriere tastes
That was amusing. "Bizzaro Einstein"
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Why are we so interested in two retards slinging excrement at each other?
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Why are we so interested in two retards slinging excrement at each other?
No idea
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Why are we so interested in two retards slinging excrement at each other?
Because it's hilarious. Lighten up Francis.
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Why are we so interested in two retards slinging excrement at each other?
Isn't that what this forum often is?
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Isn't that what this forum often is?
it should be on our JO website masthead.
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Because it's hilarious. Lighten up Francis.
Quality reference. 2 points to MBGreen
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Manish says we're trying to trade Jordan Jenkins and Chris Herndon
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Manish says we're trying to trade Jordan Jenkins and Chris Herndon
trade everyone, fam.
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trade everyone, fam.
Chris Herndon traded for a conditional 8th round pine cone.
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I'm perfectly OK with trading Jenkins. Herndon I think could be useful under a new coach.
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Herndon I think could be useful under a new coach.
Herndon is awful
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I'm perfectly OK with trading Jenkins. Herndon I think could be useful under a new coach.
I was thinking the opposite.
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If we haven’t gotten anything done yet with about 31 minutes to the deadline, I’d wager we don’t.
As for either Herndon or Jenkins neithers play warrants a draft pick But hopefully we can pull off a Jenkins trade as it would also open up more time for Zuniga
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Herndon was previously good, then Gase came along and installed his magic scheme and coaching methodology. Herndon didn't just forget how to be a good football player, so it stands to reason that someone capable of being an NFL coach would be able to recover that ability.
I don't know why there's this obsession with trading useful pieces for excrement picks. We're going to have to replace every player we trade, and a 2022 6th round pick isn't going to help us with doing that.
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Herndon was previously good, then Gase came along and installed his magic scheme and coaching methodology. Herndon didn't just forget how to be a good football player, so it stands to reason that someone capable of being an NFL coach would be able to recover that ability.
I don't know why there's this obsession with trading useful pieces for excrement picks. We're going to have to replace every player we trade, and a 2022 6th round pick isn't going to help us with doing that.
Adam Gase has nothing to do with Chris Herndon fumbling and dropping footballs.
He had a solid rookie season, did absolutely nothing last year due to injuries, and is awful this year. Calling him "useful" is a major reach.
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Herndon didn't just forget how to be a good football player.
This is such a stupid argument for the reasons Heismanberg said and more.
I don't know why there's this obsession with trading useful pieces for excrement picks. We're going to have to replace every player we trade, and a 2022 6th round pick isn't going to help us with doing that.
1. Herndon isn't useful, and we need to replace him anyway because he sucks.
2. Jenkins is an FA after the year and we need to replace him anyway.
You can make a case to keep Herndon and see what he can do under another coach. You can also make a case we should just cut Herndon because he's been that bad, and if he didn't have a decent season in 2018, he would have already been cut.
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Adam Gase has nothing to do with Chris Herndon fumbling and dropping footballs.
He had a solid rookie season, did absolutely nothing last year due to injuries, and is awful this year. Calling him "useful" is a major reach.
Don't forget his DUI either. Last 2 seasons, he has more arrests than touchdowns.
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Herndon fumbles the football every 7 touches. He belongs on the bench.
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Herndon fumbles the football every 7 touches. He belongs on the bench.
Which is why I can’t figure out why a team would trade for him.
freak it send him to Green Bay for their first
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Which is why I can’t figure out why a team would trade for him.
They won't
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Sure seems that the deadline has passed with no news.
I’m a little sad we only were able to trade Williamson
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Rich Cimini
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4m
The deadline has passed. No deals for Trader Joe, will be speaking to the media at 4:30. #Jets
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We didn't have anyone else worth anything.
And we obviously weren't trading Quinnen Williams.
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Regarding the Herndon rumors.
https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1323747434246381580
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
Should really consider who you listen to.
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At this point I consider Manish's "scoops" to be worth as much as any other post on this board. But if I'm going to bother to read the thread I guess I might as well engage in the hyptheticals.
Speaking of which, despite being completely irrelevant now, I think we've seen everything we need to Jenkins to know that he is pretty much a halfway decent rotational player who is better against the run than the pass. I think Huff and Basham make him completely expendable and if we could have gotten something for him I would have been happy.
Herndon is having a dogshit season this year but I think he can be better than absolute trash under a new staff. You can fix fumbling so long as he isn't completely done, mentally. However, if we did wind up trading it wouldn't have been a great loss.
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Herndon could be better than he's played, but he's played awful. If anyone had given us a pick, it would've been worth taking.
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https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1323747458409783302?s=20
lol
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https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1323747458409783302?s=20
lol
Like I said, Manish should just start posting here. It’d be about as impactful.
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https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1323747458409783302?s=20
lol
Ralph Vacchiano
@RVacchianoSNY
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2h
Jets GM Joe Douglas had a little regret about letting WR Robby Anderson get away last offseason. He said they thought his value would lead to a bigger contract than he got. "That’s on me. Honestly, we would all love to see Robby here doing what he’s doing.”
Well he owns it, at least. It's kind of strange that Douglas under and overvalued Robby at the same time but it is what it is.
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Well he owns it, at least. It's kind of strange that Douglas under and overvalued Robby at the same time but it is what it is.
Did they just not offer him anything then?
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Manish going all in.
EXCLUSIVE: Jets players alert NFLPA about hidden cameras in locker room, per sources.
Story: https://t.co/Q1RoEXmINh #TakeFlight https://t.co/t3NeNN4EPL
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Manish going all in.
EXCLUSIVE: Jets players alert NFLPA about hidden cameras in locker room, per sources.
Story: https://t.co/Q1RoEXmINh #TakeFlight https://t.co/t3NeNN4EPL
What would even be the point of that if it’s true?
Secondly: if it has been going on since 08 (which I doubt) where the freak is the video of Ik knocking Geno’s teeth in?
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What would even be the point of that if it’s true?
Secondly: if it has been going on since 08 (which I doubt) where the freak is the video of Ik knocking Geno’s teeth in?
The point of the cameras or the story?
The cameras would be there for security on the Jets end. The point of the story is that there may be hidden cameras where dude's weiners are hanging out. Who knows.
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The point of the cameras or the story?
The cameras would be there for security on the Jets end. The point of the story is that there may be hidden cameras where dude's weiners are hanging out. Who knows.
I meant for the cameras. And I don’t think that’s a thing that makes enough sense to both put camera in smoke detectors/hidden locations and then not tell anyone about it. Based on the article it’s clearly not standard practice across the league
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I heard it was because when the players were are training someone used to go through the pockets of their pants and steal change and so they installed the cameras and that's why Jim Leonhard wasn't re-signed.
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https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1326169251716214785?s=21
This guy is so good at his job
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https://twitter.com/mmehtanydn/status/1326169251716214785?s=21
This guy is so good at his job
That play is a perfect example of why playcalling is overrated though.
Flacco had at least one guy wide open on that play, but he just chucked it deep into double coverage anyway. If he checks down and gets an easy 20-yard completion, it looks like a great call. Instead, it looks like a terrible call.
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That play is a perfect example of why playcalling is overrated though.
Flacco had at least one guy wide open on that play, but he just chucked it deep into double coverage anyway. If he checks down and gets an easy 20-yard completion, it looks like a great call. Instead, it looks like a terrible call.
I meant Manish, not Gase
And I disagree
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How does Manish know that Gase called the play?
Who is the snitch?
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How does Manish know that Gase called the play?
Who is the snitch?
Or is Manish just making excrement up?
Also why the freak does it matter? I am willing to bet that Gase has called / strongly suggested some plays to Loggains ever since he took over calls before. The deep shot had been working, and frankly if Mims somehow ends up with that ball, it's a death knell to the Pats. I have no issue with the call. I have an issue with Flacco choosing to throw it to Mims instead of Griffin because he didn't read the field/situation.
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How does Manish know that Gase called the play?
Who is the snitch?
Plot twist. Manish has flipped Gase to an informant.
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How does Manish know that Gase called the play?
Who is the snitch?
Dawdle Largegrams
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Dawdle Largegrams
Doodle Lipgainz
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Charles McDonald left the NYDN this week to go work for USA Today and he is absolutely wrecking Manish on Twitter
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Charles McDonald left the NYDN this week to go work for USA Today and he is absolutely wrecking Manish on Twitter
Relevant.
https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1331593339548930048?s=19 (https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1331593339548930048?s=19)
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1331629227167387654?s=20
LOL
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https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1331603494122426369
elite thread
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https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1331603494122426369
elite thread
More Manish stories: He told Joe Douglas at the Senior Bowl that he’d give preferential coverage if he agreed to talk & be his source. He said he was writing a story on his time in Philly. If JD talked he would blame it on Howie. If he didn’t he’d out JD. JD told him to freak off.
lol
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Give JD a lifetime extension
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https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1331637934802554880?s=20
more
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That should do it for Manish...can't see how he doesn't get fired over being exposed.
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That should do it for Manish...can't see how he doesn't get fired over being exposed.
Chuck McDonald deserved that NYJ beat job at NYDN and they stuck with Manish. I'm glad he fucked them over and left for a better job.
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Chuck McDonald deserved that NYJ beat job at NYDN and they stuck with Manish. I'm glad he fucked them over and left for a better job.
Agreed. Happy for Charles, and I'm happy for Jets Twitter that he's ballsy enough to expose some of this stuff publicly.
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Chuck McDonald deserved that NYJ beat job at NYDN and they stuck with Manish. I'm glad he fucked them over and left for a better job.
i hope Manish eats a excrement sandwich over this
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That should do it for Manish...can't see how he doesn't get fired over being exposed.
Why? It's not like this is news to his boss, or that it's suddenly going to turn fans against someone they already hate.
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Why? It's not like this is news to his boss, or that it's suddenly going to turn fans against someone they already hate.
Maybe if it somehow affects their money.
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Why? It's not like this is news to his boss, or that it's suddenly going to turn fans against someone they already hate.
There are several big named sports writers commenting on this. It's a very bad look for them.
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There are several big named sports writers commenting on this. It's a very bad look for them.
Right, but it's nothing that wasn't already known by a) his bosses or b) most of the online Jets community. It's at best a confirmation and collation of previous stories.
He continues to get clicks and continues to run stories that people lap up (and which are often at least in part correct and ahead of anything from writers more concerned about staying on the team's good side). Organisations tend to be reluctant to fire people who make them money, as you know from first hand experience with what you're seeing at work right now. I don't see why this changes anything with Manish.
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Right, but it's nothing that wasn't already known by a) his bosses or b) most of the online Jets community. It's at best a confirmation and collation of previous stories.
He continues to get clicks and continues to run stories that people lap up (and which are often at least in part correct and ahead of anything from writers more concerned about staying on the team's good side). Organisations tend to be reluctant to fire people who make them money, as you know from first hand experience with what you're seeing at work right now. I don't see why this changes anything with Manish.
Mostly agree with this. It puts more heat on Manish, but nothing will happen imminently.
I don't know how much money he's making, but considering media layoffs, they might eventually use this as a reason why to lay him off eventually.
That said, I would hope for a better journalistic standard than "at least in part correct."
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Right, but it's nothing that wasn't already known by a) his bosses or b) most of the online Jets community. It's at best a confirmation and collation of previous stories.
He continues to get clicks and continues to run stories that people lap up (and which are often at least in part correct and ahead of anything from writers more concerned about staying on the team's good side). Organisations tend to be reluctant to fire people who make them money, as you know from first hand experience with what you're seeing at work right now. I don't see why this changes anything with Manish.
This should be extremely embarrassing to Manish, but he doesn't seem to be phased by that too much. Regarding the NYDN, it depends on how much they care about being seen as a legit news organization. If they just care about clicks and are OK with basically being the National Enquirer, it won't change anything, you are right.
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Mostly agree with this. It puts more heat on Manish, but nothing will happen imminently.
I don't know how much money he's making, but considering media layoffs, they might eventually use this as a reason why to lay him off eventually.
That said, I would hope for a better journalistic standard than "at least in part correct."
If you want higher journalistic standards then you might be looking for The Athletic. Tabloid journalism has always been about selling papers, or these days encouraging clicks, with sensationalist and sometimes tenuous headlines. I think that if you're looking for the NYDN or any other tabloid to improve its journalistic standards you might be setting yourself up for disappointment.
Again, that doesn't mean they're always wrong. They'd just rather be first with a rumour that might be true than second with a story that definitely is.
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This story is trending nationally on Twitter.
Just wow.
As for why Manish still has a job, I've said this before, his editor had to have been in on it. That someone's else's work was being passed off as Manish's only reinforces my belief.
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This story is trending nationally on Twitter.
Just wow.
As for why Manish still has a job, I've said this before, his editor had to have been in on it. That someone's else's work was being passed off as Manish's only reinforces my belief.
Because it's the exact same mentality of people who hate Trump following him on Twitter. "WAAAAAAAAH LOOK WHAT TRUMP/MANISH WROTE NOW! HERE! LOOK AT THIS EVERYBODY! WHAT A freaking IDIOT!"
Doesn't matter. Got follows and clicks. If you want to make these people go away, stop giving them what they want.
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The NYDN depends on clicks and advertising, they're not going to get rid of a guy that gets both because he's a freaking slimeball.
I have seen it in every walk of life, I have worked with people that have to be seen to be believed if I told you the stories you guys would think I was lying. The more revenue a person creates for an organization is in direct relationship to how big of a scumbag they can be. I mean in some respects the business world has changed, the tolerance is certainly less for that type of behavior but the relationship still stands.
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The NYDN depends on clicks and advertising, they're not going to get rid of a guy that gets both because he's a freaking slimeball.
I have seen it in every walk of life, the more revenue a person creates for an organization is a direct relationship to how big of a scumbag they can be. I mean in some respects the business world has changed, the tolerance is certainly less for that type of behavior but the relationship still stands.
I mean, look at Puck. He's the biggest poopchute ever, but he gives elite eye contact during his blowjobs to homeless dudes out behind Jerry's Scrap Metal Shop. That's why they haven't called the cops on him yet.
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I mean, look at Puck. He's the biggest poopchute ever, but he gives elite eye contact during his blowjobs to homeless dudes out behind Jerry's Scrap Metal Shop. That's why they haven't called the cops on him yet.
Jerry's is your backyard dude, you asked for exclusive rights.
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https://twitter.com/NYJ_Matt/status/1331708672649605121?s=20
LMAO
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https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1331702461124407296?s=20
oh excrement, Awful Announcing got a hold of it
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https://twitter.com/NYJ_Matt/status/1331708672649605121?s=20
LMAO
so fvcking creepy lmaooo
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https://twitter.com/NYJ_Matt/status/1331708672649605121?s=20
LMAO
This is why we can't have nice things
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https://twitter.com/NYJ_Matt/status/1331708672649605121?s=20
LMAO
Wtf man
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This is why we can't have nice things
'hey joe, sooo.....i can see your son.....licking some mint chocolate chip ice cream right now. you sure there isn't anything you want to talk to me about?'
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Manish got his own thread?
terrible.
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freak Manish for so many things. I am so glad that finally someone spoke up and put this out there. I am certain he is not the only guy to do crazy excrement to get stories and clicks/follows or whatever. But he definitely took it to a whole nother level, and I am glad he is blackballed from the NFL now.
Part of me wishes more of this excrement comes out, because it's A. hilarious and B. great to know he is really known as big of a slimeball as we think he is. However, if Mehta does get canned by the NYDN, they will just put the next guy in those positions and expect more crazy excrement to get the controversy rolling. I refuse to believe that the NYDN didn't play a part in Mehta becoming the Dbag he is today, and I would expect even a quality journalist, in his role will resort to clickbait BS because that's what his bosses need/demand of him.
freak Manish
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I refuse to believe that the NYDN didn't play a part in Mehta becoming the Dbag he is today, and I would expect even a quality journalist, in his role will resort to clickbait BS because that's what his bosses need/demand of him.
Maybe but remember Cimini was their beat writer before him and while he’s a whiny pessimistic bitch, he’s actually a professional journalist.
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https://www.radio.com/wfan/sports/jets/carton-banned-jets-reporter-stalked-gm-joe-douglas-son
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https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1332335361972973568?s=21
WHAT
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https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1332335361972973568?s=21
WHAT
Looking forward to seeing all the people who cried on the internet about #metoo men being accused of harassment without evidence jumping on this because they hate Manish more than they fear their fragile masculinity.
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https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1332335361972973568?s=21
WHAT
Jenny Vrentas or Kimberly Martin?
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Jenny Vrentas or Kimberly Martin?
Yes
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Jenny Vrentas or Kimberly Martin?
this isn't to absolve any of the slimy fvcked up excrement manish is doing, but i wonder if any of that was brushed off after vrentas cried wolf on the sainz jet harassment BS
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this isn't to absolve any of the slimy fvcked up excrement manish is doing, but i wonder if any of that was brushed off after vrentas cried wolf on the sainz jet harassment BS
The faux outrage over that was so widespread that I never had it pegged to any beat reporter. Did she actually kick that off or was she just one of the many wringing everything they could out of it?
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I'm pretty sure this is all Vrentas. Though Martin was mentioned somewhere else.
https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1332335644027269123
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https://twitter.com/emesola/status/1332335361972973568?s=21
WHAT
Let all the excrement come out. I’m loving all the stuff related to this horses derriere.
This story has been the most interesting Jets related thing all season and I hope it continues to be as amusing and interesting until the season ends and we can actually move forwards with the coaching search and offseason.
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He didn't post about the team at all yesterday. Hopefully he's fired.
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He didn't post about the team at all yesterday. Hopefully he's fired.
Hahahahaha
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Prrtty clear he either got suspended or fired. No tweets or articles for 6 days.
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Prrtty clear he either got suspended or fired. No tweets or articles for 6 days.
Hopefully canned
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If there is any such thing as karmic justice he’ll get some other really shitty, pathetic job in media where he’ll attempt to keep his twitter active to stay relevant only to get trolled
And ratioed until the end of time
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From NY Daily News’ Twitter account
Manish Mehta has been removed from the New York Jets beat. Coverage of the team will continue uninterrupted.
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Bye bitch
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https://twitter.com/T_Law_wrld/status/1337159719476219904?s=20
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From NY Daily News’ Twitter account
Manish Mehta has been removed from the New York Jets beat. Coverage of the team will continue uninterrupted.
Now do Gase
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Now do Gase
They can hate freak each other in a van under the Pulaski Skyway for the rest of eternity.
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https://twitter.com/T_Law_wrld/status/1337159719476219904?s=20
One of my favourite Reddit subs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GhanaSaysGoodbye/
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https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1337156260295303173
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Manish's Twitter account is no more.
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We did it, JetOffensive!
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The biggest Jets win in site history
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I find it funny how long the NYDN first said nothing after he lost his credentials and secondly how long he was just in limbo while they decided what to do with the nut job.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/12/10/new-york-daily-news-abruptly-withdraws-manish-mehta-from-the-jets-beat/
Interesting... they are suggesting that the Washington Post is working on story about this situation and the NYDN got wind of it and preemptively fired Mehta before the story drops.
I hope the post is writing a story because I’d love to know as many nitty gritty details as possible since it’s almost the only enjoyment we’ve had all freaking season
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2 years is plenty of time for the new coach to show his own derriere the door.
Jets fans will be calling for his head by week 2 2019
Unrelated but
I was off by -2 weeks
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https://mobile.twitter.com/rajpc1/status/1131566460160106498
Bahahahaha Hahahahah
An all time classic
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/12/10/new-york-daily-news-abruptly-withdraws-manish-mehta-from-the-jets-beat/
Interesting... they are suggesting that the Washington Post is working on story about this situation and the NYDN got wind of it and preemptively fired Mehta before the story drops.
I hope the post is writing a story because I’d love to know as many nitty gritty details as possible since it’s almost the only enjoyment we’ve had all freaking season
Why would WaPo write that story? What percentage of their readership would actually care?
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Why would WaPo write that story? What percentage of their readership would actually care?
The Daily News is one of the biggest papers in America and Manish is one of the best known beat reporters for a New York franchise in the most popular sport in the nation.
Manish made a ton of enemies and I'm sure people would love to talk. And many of the rumors are salacious enough to be interesting to the general public.
It seems obvious why this would be a bigger story if any of the other rumors and tweets are true.
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I’m fairly confident Duff was his source so Manish wanted to ensure he stayed in place with that article/statement I’m sure
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The Daily News is one of the biggest papers in America and Manish is one of the best known beat reporters for a New York franchise in the most popular sport in the nation.
Manish made a ton of enemies and I'm sure people would love to talk. And many of the rumors are salacious enough to be interesting to the general public.
It seems obvious why this would be a bigger story if any of the other rumors and tweets are true.
But he writes about the Jets. The paper might have a relatively large circulation, but the only people who read Jets beat stories are Jets fans. No one else cares.
The rumours are not salacious, unless I'm missing something. The worst one I've heard is that he texted Douglas saying he was watching his kid eat ice cream, which is very weird and worthy of getting his credentials pulled and thus fired, but not IMO a story that has any interest beyond what it has already had.
It seems far more likely that the NYDN just ditched him because a beat writer without credentials is next to useless, and his click value is outweighed by the criticism that is now aimed at the paper. I don't buy the WaPo thing, it sounds like Florio grinding his axe in the context of an overinflated view of the importance of what he and his peers - including Mehta - actually do.
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If the rumors of him bullying and treating women reporters like excrement are true, I can 100% see WaPo write this article.
That's a huge shot at a dude disliked pretty universally across the business, and at a competitor in online clicks.
Sent from fire adam gase.
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If the rumors of him bullying and treating women reporters like excrement are true, I can 100% see WaPo write this article.
That's a huge shot at a dude disliked pretty universally across the business, and at a competitor in online clicks.
I hadn't heard about that.
I don't think WaPo and NYDN are competing for the same clicks though.
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I hadn't heard about that.
Yes, you did hear about it but you chose to ignore it because you claimed the person tweeting about it wasn’t credible.
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Yes, you did hear about it but you chose to ignore it because you claimed the person tweeting about it wasn’t credible.
Right. The woman I've never heard of. I remember.
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I’m fairly confident Duff was his source so Manish wanted to ensure he stayed in place with that article/statement I’m sure
His source was Heimerdinger
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I hadn't heard about that.
I don't think WaPo and NYDN are competing for the same clicks though.
You quoted SFD’s post on the thread.
Looking forward to seeing all the people who cried on the internet about #metoo men being accused of harassment without evidence jumping on this because they hate Manish more than they fear their fragile masculinity.
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JE is Manish Mehta’s biggest stan
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I'm a Steiny stan
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I'm a Steiny stan
you just want that football signed by Ricky Sapp.
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you just want that football signed by Ricky Sapp.
Youregoddamnright.gif
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Youregoddamnright.gif
(https://i.imgur.com/x96XrVN.png)
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Wonder if Manish was the one pissing and moaning about Steiny wearing a backwards baseball hat in the press pool.
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Wonder if Manish was the one pissing and moaning about Steiny wearing a backwards baseball hat in the press pool.
I think that was Rich Cimini
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You quoted SFD’s post on the thread.
Yes. I had completely forgotten about it; amongst the various other accusations of child stalking, rigging the US election and causing covid it slipped my memory.
JE is Manish Mehta’s biggest stan
As I've already said, I don't give a shiny excrement either way about Manish or any other writer. I just think it's hilarious how much you do. I'm excited to see who the next target for the internet mob is now that Manish has gone.
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As I've already said, I don't give a shiny excrement either way about Manish or any other writer.
He stalked a child, bullied a bunch of women. He deserved all of this.
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As I've already said, I don't give a shiny excrement either way about Manish or any other writer. I just think it's hilarious how much you do. I'm excited to see who the next target for the internet mob is now that Manish has gone.
He deliberately and repeatedly sowed discord within the Jets organization to advance his own standing. His demise is an unequivocal good for any Jets fan.
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He deliberately and repeatedly sowed discord within the Jets organization to advance his own standing. His demise is an unequivocal good for any Jets fan.
Meh. If the org can't cope with a bit of media skullduggery it's even more shambolic than we thought. Ten years ago Rich Cimini was public enemy number one. In another six months I'm sure you'll all be putting the boot in on whoever the NYDN hires to replace Manish.
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Meh. If the org can't cope with a bit of media skullduggery it's even more shambolic than we thought. Ten years ago Rich Cimini was public enemy number one. In another six months I'm sure you'll all be putting the boot in on whoever the NYDN hires to replace Manish.
Being an poopchute is one thing, stalking his kid is another. I thought Manish was good entertainment until I learned about all the creepy excrement he was doing.
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Being an poopchute is one thing, stalking his kid is another. I thought Manish was good entertainment until I learned about all the creepy excrement he was doing.
Again, I'm not defending Manish. I don't care that he was fired and I've already said that if that's all true, which it sounds like it was, then it was undoubtedly right to fire him.
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Again, I'm not defending Manish. I don't care that he was fired and I've already said that if that's all true, which it sounds like it was, then it was undoubtedly right to fire him.
Sorry, I can't read. I had to look up skullduggery.
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Ten years ago Rich Cimini was public enemy number one.
Rich gets excrement because he has negative takes on the franchise. This is a completely different situation.
I'm sure we'll continue to roast Connor Hughes and Rich Cimini for their awful takes on this team, but that's part of their job and they take it well. Manish was always a scumbag.
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I think that was Rich Cimini
Also makes sense.
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Meh. If the org can't cope with a bit of media skullduggery it's even more shambolic than we thought. Ten years ago Rich Cimini was public enemy number one. In another six months I'm sure you'll all be putting the boot in on whoever the NYDN hires to replace Manish.
Manish was a manipulative douchebag, and if you still can't see that, you must have your head into the sand.
Comparing Manish to Cimini is like comparing apples and machine guns. It's not remotely the same thing at all.
Manish has always had shady tactics, and now they're coming out more to the forefront because one person (Charles McDonald) had the balls to speak up and get the ball rolling, and others joined in. I'm not sure if it affected what the Jets have been doing for the last 10 years when we've sucked, but it can't hurt to be rid of him.
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This is a beat reporter than undoubtedly created a lot of the issues between Jamal Adams and the team.
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https://twitter.com/benjstrauss/status/1337430384196411399?s=20
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo-GztVXMAALUju?format=png&name=360x360)
Evidence as to why this is JE's favorite former reporter
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That is hilariously meta (pun not intended).
In the UK this guy would be just another average tabloid hack, the like of which every paper has multiples, and much of what he has done would be if not in the job description, certainly expected as part of doing his job. That so many people both inside and outside the NY media are bent out of shape about him is mindblowing.
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That is hilariously meta (pun not intended).
In the UK this guy would be just another average tabloid hack, the like of which every paper has multiples, and much of what he has done would be if not in the job description, certainly expected as part of doing his job. That so many people both inside and outside the NY media are bent out of shape about him is mindblowing.
well as you know, american media has certain standards that must be met
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In the UK this guy would be just another average tabloid hack, the like of which every paper has multiples, and much of what he has done would be if not in the job description, certainly expected as part of doing his job. That so many people both inside and outside the NY media are bent out of shape about him is mindblowing.
Yeah man, chasing a female reporter down a hallway and screaming curse words at her is completely normal and acceptable behavior.
I'm sure those UK tabloid reporters love to stalk children and text their parents about what flavor ice cream they're eating too.
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https://twitter.com/nickmangold/status/1337206514671640581
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https://twitter.com/nickmangold/status/1337206514671640581
Revis excrement on him too
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Yeah man, chasing a female reporter down a hallway and screaming curse words at her is completely normal and acceptable behavior.
I'm sure those UK tabloid reporters love to stalk children and text their parents about what flavor ice cream they're eating too.
Oh man. 100% yes to both of those, and way worse.
I know a couple of UK tabloid writers, one very senior. He would laugh his nuts off at the idea of a journalist being fired for those things.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/12/11/manish-mehta-jets-daily-news/
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/12/11/manish-mehta-jets-daily-news/
Paywall
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/12/11/manish-mehta-jets-daily-news/
ya late
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If there is any such thing as karmic justice he’ll get some other really shitty, pathetic job in media where he’ll attempt to keep his twitter active to stay relevant only to get trolled
And ratioed until the end of time
Manish is a hoo-ha
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He'll lay low for a while and re-emerge somewhere in the middle of bumfuck on some sports rag. Or Walmart bathroom sweeper. Whatevs.
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Barstool will probably hire him
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Before he became a raging rooster, he was a decent reporter. If he goes back to that he will probably get a job. Sometimes people freak up, do their time and learn from it.
Or he can just be an immense gaping poopchute his entire life.
Honestly I don't care if I ever hear his name again.
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I don't care where he ends up as long as he never reports on anything Jets related ever again.
Hopefully he gets banished to covering A baseball in Idaho.
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That is hilariously meta (pun not intended).
In the UK this guy would be just another average tabloid hack, the like of which every paper has multiples, and much of what he has done would be if not in the job description, certainly expected as part of doing his job. That so many people both inside and outside the NY media are bent out of shape about him is mindblowing.
That says more about the UK media cesspool than us.
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Manish finally responds
In an obnoxiously long radio interview in Boston
https://985thesportshub.com/2021/01/12/manish-mehta-toucher-and-rich-interview-jets/
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"The Jets have been very sensitive to criticism, so they went to these extraordinary lengths to try to remove me from the beat, because I found out a lot of their dysfunctional inner-workings," Mehta said. "No team should be able to get away with this. You should not be able to suppress a journalist by smearing their reputation with distortions and embellishments, and sometimes just flat-out fabrications, just because you don't like what they are reporting and writing, and that's exactly what happened here. The NFL, frankly, took the Jets' word for it without ever talking to me or my editors about whether any of those claims were true.
"Fundamentally, this is wrong. It sets a very dangerous precedent."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Forgive me while I..
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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The Jets framed me!
So Manish threatened Joe Douglas at the Senior Bowl, but Douglas framed him when it comes to the ice cream story. Even though Manish actually did send that text to him...
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Manish finally responds
In an obnoxiously long radio interview in Boston
https://985thesportshub.com/2021/01/12/manish-mehta-toucher-and-rich-interview-jets/
I don't think it's worth wading through the 26 minutes of excrement that interview must be, but if those guys didn't bring up the rumor that he almost got into a fight with John Schneider at the combine they suck derriere at their job.
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One of the more controversial accusations against Mehta was that he interacted with the son of Jets GM Joe Douglas in an inappropriate way at a baseball game. Mehta described the interaction as "innocuous" and said he had been having friendly text conversations with Douglas at the time.
"The Jets framed that incident and said that Joe Douglas got a strange text out of nowhere from an unknown number saying that 'Hey I just saw your son at a baseball game,' as if I was monitoring his son in some way," Mehta said. "I don't quite understand it."
Actual text:
“Hey Joe, I know that your son’s favorite ice cream flavor is Vanilla. Interesting that he went with Dippin Dots over the waffle cone. Like his old man I bet. How do I know this? Let’s just say the Philly Fanatic and I have been watching him. Great day for a ballgame. That’s how good of a journalist I am.
Now let’s end the charade and you admit to me that you wanted to sign Logan Ryan.”
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“Does your son wear tighty whiteys or boxers?”
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Actual text:
“Hey Joe, I know that your son’s favorite ice cream flavor is Vanilla. Interesting that he went with Dippin Dots over the waffle cone. Like his old man I bet. How do I know this? Let’s just say the Philly Fanatic and I have been watching him. Great day for a ballgame. That’s how good of a journalist I am.
Now let’s end the charade and you admit to me that you wanted to sign Logan Ryan.”
lmao
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Actual text:
“Hey Joe, I know that your son’s favorite ice cream flavor is Vanilla. Interesting that he went with Dippin Dots over the waffle cone. Like his old man I bet. How do I know this? Let’s just say the Philly Fanatic and I have been watching him. Great day for a ballgame. That’s how good of a journalist I am.
Now let’s end the charade and you admit to me that you wanted to sign Logan Ryan.”
I can't tell sarcasm anymore, you're bullshitting, right?
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creeeeeeeeeeep
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Manish finally responds
In an obnoxiously long radio interview in Boston
https://985thesportshub.com/2021/01/12/manish-mehta-toucher-and-rich-interview-jets/
I WON THE ELECTION. BY A LOT!
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Just as I argued in favor of Manish for years--all stories have at least a grain of truth, even if embellished--what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Even if the Jets embellished stories, he was engaging in shady "journalism" at best. And he wrecked numerous relationships within the organization. You reap what you sow, Manish.
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Just as I argued in favor of Manish for years--all stories have at least a grain of truth, even if embellished--what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Even if the Jets embellished stories, he was engaging in shady "journalism" at best. And he wrecked numerous relationships within the organization. You reap what you sow, Manish.
The fact that other beat reporters agreed with it and were thrilled when he got tossed shows something. Not one person (not even his editors to my knowledge) have publicly stood up for Mehta.
Lots of guys have put out negative stories for years and nobody else got canned. There will almost certainly be another Mehta (probably at the NYDN) and if the Jets don’t have him banned then it just weakens Manish’s arguments. You can be a dick of a reporter, but you can’t do the excrement he did.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Forgive me while I..
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Even if what he's saying is true I don't care. I can tell if my team is dysfunctional by looking at the standings. I don't need some clickbait bitch turning players against the franchise.
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https://twitter.com/mmethanydn/status/1349852936927649794?s=21
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https://twitter.com/mmethanydn/status/1349852936927649794?s=21
What in the freaking freak is wrong with that guy?
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What in the freaking freak is wrong with that guy?
That's a fake account, bruv
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That's a fake account, bruv
Ah... the Ol' Manish Metha single letter swap.
Oh Well, we got Saleh, I could give a freak if I look like an idiot tonight
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https://twitter.com/KyleTeichert/status/1356452279688249351?s=20
LMAO
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Sexual assault in the fourth degree: Class A misdemeanor or class D felony. (b) Sexual assault in the fourth degree is a class A misdemeanor or, if the victim of the offense is under sixteen years of age, a class D felony.
Uhhhh
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Judging by there being zero articles or mentions of it being the NYDN Mehta, this isn't necessarily (probably isn't) the same Mehta
Just another person who happens to have the same name (also living in NJ) Which happens to also be an extremely common name
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I mean it lines up with his past behavior in how he treats women
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Touching kids during his Walmart shift (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210202/3eb87e5deecad4edd064b40b15e23568.jpg)
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A Walmart store manager makes more than a beat reporter.
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Daddy's back
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Daddy's back
What does that mean?
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https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports
Reporting Jets "news" already
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So wait he’s just a freelance reporter with no home base? Who the freak is going to give him access to anything?
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https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports
Reporting Jets "news" already
Look at those ratios.
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Look at those ratios.
He’s getting owned.
Thanks for giving me the heads up so I could do the right thing.
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https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports/status/1371957842639458317
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https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports/status/1371957842639458317
lol
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Manish must be a twitter cuck. Why do this to yourself for no reason?
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https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports/status/1371957842639458317
what a dunce
Hardee also switched over to DB.
Manish needs to be flushed down the nearest toilet.
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He deleted it
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What is he doing? I mean, is he unemployed and just farting around on the web or is working lettuce and tomatoes at Jimmy John's and doing this on his lunch break?
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What is he doing? I mean, is he unemployed and just farting around on the web or is working lettuce and tomatoes at Jimmy John's and doing this on his lunch break?
He is unemployed
Probably trying to use his Twitter following as a bridge to another shitty job
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He is unemployed
Probably trying to use his Twitter following as a bridge to another shitty job
Maybe puck can put a word in for him at Trader Joes.
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He deleted it
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Lol so now he can’t even plagiarize tweets correctly
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Lol, that twitter feed is freaking pathetic.
"Hey guys Josh Doctson is planning on coming back to the league!" Nice fuckin scoop Manish LMAO.
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Scoop: Jets open to increasingly likely scenario
https://twitter.com/MMehtaSports/status/1375536273398595591?s=19
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In other news I am open to not ascending Mt. Everest on a pogo stick this sunmer