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New York Jets Football => ...And The Home Of The Jets => Topic started by: Jumbo on April 24, 2020, 08:14:41 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwyE3WJ4AWo
We did it, reddit
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Great value after the trade back
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Quick tell me how to feel about this!
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M-I-M-S
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I think this kid is going to be somebody we love in due time
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I almost posted this earlier.
https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/denzel-mims
Mims compares a lot to Stephen Hill physically. But Mims actually produced in college.
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Love this pick
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I almost posted this earlier.
https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/denzel-mims
Mims compares a lot to Stephen Hill physically. But Mims actually produced in college.
He's very similar to Stephen Hill.
He dropped a lot of passes at Baylor and can't do much as a route runner (yet).
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I almost posted this earlier.
https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/denzel-mims
Mims compares a lot to Stephen Hill physically. But Mims actually produced in college.
I thought Claypool was a closer comp to Hill but I didn't want to say it in case we picked him
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I almost posted this earlier.
https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/denzel-mims
Mims compares a lot to Stephen Hill physically. But Mims actually produced in college.
Using production in Mims' favor over Hill makes no sense. Hill played in a triple option offense that rarely threw the football.
Both players weren't asked to do anything very complex as route runners.
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Stephen Hill could have been very good. He just wasn't.
Denzel Mims can be very good too.
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Mims compares a lot to Stephen Hill physically.
I don't love the pick, precisely because his floor is Stephen Hill 2.0.
But freak it, let's gamble.
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We needed size and another vertical threat.
Mims checks off both of those boxes and he was certainly one of the best players available.
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I don't love the pick, precisely because his floor is Stephen Hill 2.0.
But freak it, let's gamble.
We have taken 2 guys with top tier size and elite athleticism. That means very high ceilings. JD is swinging for the fences.
That said Becton I still feel is a pretty safe pick. Mims potential is exciting, so hopefully he reaches it
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I don't love the pick, precisely because his floor is Stephen Hill 2.0.
But freak it, let's gamble.
Sometimes you have to take that pickle, throw caution to the wind and toss it in the deep fryer.
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If he fails as a draft pick he won’t be a departure from our normal production in the second round.
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Sometimes you have to take that pickle, throw caution to the wind and toss it in the deep fryer.
hahaha
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Mims played with a broken hand last season. That may have contributed to some of the drops and, in spite of that, he still recorded a thousand yards receiving and 12 TDs.
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Stephen Hill could have been very good. He just wasn't.
Denzel Mims can be very good too.
Well this is super encouraging
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https://twitter.com/jetswhispers/status/1253901769744277505?s=19
Fire Rex, doesn't even know what sport this is
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Mims’ body control and ball skills are significantly better than Hill’s. Those are two of the main reasons why I think he failed miserably.
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Mims’ body control and ball skills are significantly better than Hill’s. Those are two of the main reasons why I think he failed miserably.
And while Heismanberg's point was a good one that Georgia Tech's offense wasn't built for WR production, the fact that Mims actually produced in college is a positive for me.
Watching some Mims YouTube breakdowns now. Brett Kollmann called him an under-the-radar potential superstar. Matt Waldman had him as his #2 receiver prospect overall.
I'll take shots on guys with Mims' size, speed, athleticism, catch radius and production in the 2nd round all the time.
If Mims can make an instant impact, he and Perriman will be one of the faster outside WR duos in the NFL.
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I'm not knocking this pick by comparing him to Stephen Hill.
This was exceptional value and the trade back ended up netting us three other picks as well.
Mims needs to get better with releases. If he is pressed, I think he'll struggle early.
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Mims will have Darnold putting the ball in there as opposed to Geno Smith.
#KeepRex
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Joe D says he sees Mims as a guy that can step in and contribute starting from day 1, he does not feel that there are concerns with his route tree, and that coaches were impressed with his ability to learn after speaking to him
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Joe D says he sees Mims as a guy that can step in and contribute starting from day 1, he does not feel that there are concerns with his route tree, and that coaches were impressed with his ability to learn after speaking to him
If the line does their job and a healthy Darnold is throwing to him there's no reason he can't contribute from day one. WR isn't that hard to learn, especially if you're 6-2 and run a 4.38.
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denzel mims 1-on-1 reps at the senior bowl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r_9ZBwmjMc
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If the line does their job and a healthy Darnold is throwing to him there's no reason he can't contribute from day one. WR isn't that hard to learn, especially if you're 6-2 and run a 4.38.
Traditionally it is a difficult position to learn. First year WR's typically have trouble.
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Joe D says he sees Mims as a guy that can step in and contribute starting from day 1, he does not feel that there are concerns with his route tree, and that coaches were impressed with his ability to learn after speaking to him
I mean to be fair our starting outside WR before Mims were Breshaud Perriman and Vyncent Smith. So literally anybody we drafted will be able to come in and compete for a starting gig.
But freak it I am irrationally excited by Mims
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https://twitter.com/waynechrebet/status/1253860994553651203?s=21
Wayne Chrebet thinks Mims is a steal at 59
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https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1254025868122435584?s=21
Call to Mims
“I’m looking for a playmaker, did I find one on the line?” ~Douglas
“Everyone else is gonna pay for it man” ~Mims
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I'll take shots on guys with Mims' size, speed, athleticism, catch radius and production in the 2nd round all the time.
The added picks also ease the pain if he doesnt work out. We drafted this guy closer to the third than the first.
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https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1254025868122435584?s=21
Call to Mims
“I’m looking for a playmaker, did I find one on the line?” ~Douglas
“Everyone else is gonna pay for it man” ~Mims
Fingers crossed Mims pans out to have a longer career than Stephen Hill and Devin Smith.
I also like the fact that they told Gase to stay off video
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denzel mims 1-on-1 reps at the senior bowl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r_9ZBwmjMc
He can get physical
Great at the point of catch too
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He can get physical
Great at the point of catch too
Gotta admit I didnt expect him to be that physical.
I'm hoping darnold can help him like he helped terrelle pryor
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Mims just needs to get really good at slants and curls. If he can run those consistently, it will open up the double moves for him. The comeback is something I don't think he's ready for just yet.
Robby Anderson was an awful hitch and curl runner, which limited his production.
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Who was the last Baylor receiver to not be an NFL bust for one reason or another?
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Who was the last Baylor receiver to not be an NFL bust for one reason or another?
Terrance Williams
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Terrance Williams
Not sure that a third round pick ending up in the XFL after his rookie contract expires is a shining success story.
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Josh Gordon was a damn good WR
Just also an off field doorknob
Mims doesn’t appear to have any off field issues.
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Josh Gordon was a damn good WR
Just also an off field doorknob
Mims doesn’t appear to have any off field issues.
Let me try the question again, because I know you're not trying to make the claim that Josh Gordon was anything other than a spectacular bust:
Who was the last Baylor receiver to not be an NFL bust for one reason or another?
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He looks kinda tarded. He'll fit in well.
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Let me try the question again, because I know you're not trying to make the claim that Josh Gordon was anything other than a spectacular bust:
Who was the last Baylor receiver to not be an NFL bust for one reason or another?
This reminds me of the “name me a USC quarterback who wasn’t a bust” argument
Throwing in the qualifier of “for one reason or another” is convenient when Josh Gordon let drugs stop him from being a perennial pro bowler, not Baylor.
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This reminds me of the “name me a USC quarterback who wasn’t a bust” argument
Throwing in the qualifier of “for one reason or another” is convenient when Josh Gordon let drugs stop him from being a perennial pro bowler, not Baylor.
Alternatively, it could be indicative of a system that knows how to find and recruit talented players, but isn't very good at setting them up for long term success as professional athletes. Kendall Wright and Corey Coleman were both great athletes with spectacular college careers, and both failed to achieve anything in the NFL. Gordon isn't the only talented Baylor receiver in the last while to flame out in the NFL, which is why I asked the question.
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This reminds me of the “name me a USC quarterback who wasn’t a bust” argument
Throwing in the qualifier of “for one reason or another” is convenient when Josh Gordon let drugs stop him from being a perennial pro bowler, not Baylor.
To be fair the drugs didn't stop him, the nfl rules did
Which have since changed
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Who was the last Baylor receiver to not be an NFL bust for one reason or another?
Jalen Hurd
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Mimssyyyyyy!!
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To be fair the drugs didn't stop him, the nfl rules did
Which have since changed
Contrary to what many seem to believe, Gordon's issues go well beyond weed. He isn't playing in the NFL again and the new CBA won't change that.
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Jalen Hurd
Has yet to set foot on an NFL field. Not a bust yet, but neither was Devin Smith after one season.
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Alternatively, it could be indicative of a system that knows how to find and recruit talented players, but isn't very good at setting them up for long term success as professional athletes. Kendall Wright and Corey Coleman were both great athletes with spectacular college careers, and both failed to achieve anything in the NFL. Gordon isn't the only talented Baylor receiver in the last while to flame out in the NFL, which is why I asked the question.
Does the Baylor bust rate deviate significantly from the norm? Are they producing more highly rated wr prospects than other schools? Lots to consider here.
I don't like the "X school produces bad ____" argument for all the obvious reasons but also because it kind of suggests there is a school you can take players from that won't bust at a particular position.
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Kendall Wright and Corey Coleman play completely different positions than Denzel Mims.
Mims is a true X. Wright and Coleman are slot receivers that can occasionally play Z.
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Also, if you're going to make the case all Baylor WR are busts, pretending Gordon's issues have anything to do with Baylor is completely disingenuous
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Also, if you're going to make the case all Baylor WR are busts, pretending Gordon's issues have anything to do with Baylor is completely disingenuous
Art Briles turned him into an alcoholic
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Also, if you're going to make the case all Baylor WR are busts, pretending Gordon's issues have anything to do with Baylor is completely disingenuous
I'm not actually making any case, I just see a pattern of talented college wideouts who don't realise their potential in the NFL.
Does the Baylor bust rate deviate significantly from the norm? Are they producing more highly rated wr prospects than other schools? Lots to consider here.
I don't like the "X school produces bad ____" argument for all the obvious reasons but also because it kind of suggests there is a school you can take players from that won't bust at a particular position.
I don't know the answer to either of those questions, but I don't think there's anything wrong with ascribing certain characteristics to certain schools based upon historic performance.
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Concerned about two things:
1. His ability to separate
2. His route running, or lack thereof
The two go hand-in-hand
Shawn Jefferson has some work to do.
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I really hope we consider bringing Demaryius Thomas back as a veteran mentor to Mims and Smith.
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Not sure why Cimini is saying Mims needs to play immediately and that he's the key to the Jets draft. Quite a bit overblown. It's fine if he sits for a while. It's not like the Jets have zero WR.
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Not sure why Cimini is saying Mims needs to play immediately and that he's the key to the Jets draft. Quite a bit overblown. It's fine if he sits for a while. It's not like the Jets have zero WR.
Because the beat writers don’t know anything about these prospects, they just run with whatever they hear.
They heard it was a deep WR class and are doing whatever they can to poke holes in Douglas.
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It's not like we don't already know that Lawrence Cager is going to have 1000 yards and 10 TDs this year.
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It's not like the Jets have zero WR.
True. Between crowder, quincy, and perriman we have 1.75 wr
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per the Athletic
Selection: Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor
The pick: Second round, 59th overall (from Seahawks)
Past selections at No. 59: WR Parris Campbell (Colts), RB Derrius Guice (Redskins), DE Tanoh Kpassagnon (Chiefs), K Roberto Aguayo (Bucs), OT Ty Sambrailo (Broncos)
What it means: The Jets desperately needed to add receivers. They took arguably the best available in Mims. The 22-year-old caught 66 passes for 1,020 yards and 12 touchdowns last year, earning first-team all-Big 12 honors while leading Baylor in both receiving yards and receptions. He’s big, physical, and faster than some thought (4.38 40-yard dash). He should slide in as a Day 1 starter for the Jets with Breshad Perriman and Jamison Crowder.
Douglas says: Usually when you (call) and tell these guys (they’re getting drafted), they’re excited. There’s a lot of celebration. Denzel tonight had a chip on his shoulder. It was important to him to make these teams pay that passed him up. We can’t wait to get that type of competitor, that type of mentality in the building.
Dane says: A three-year starter at Baylor, Mims was an outside receiver in offensive coordinator Glenn Thomas’ shotgun spread attack, leading the team in receiving two of the last three seasons. He became the only player in college football to score at least eight receiving touchdowns in each of the last three years. Mims boasts the athletic skill to win at every level of the field, but on tape he was at his best on straight-line or one-cut routes (slants, posts, go’s, etc.), although he showed much improved pattern movement at the Senior Bowl. He demonstrates the ability to make impressive extension grabs, but his ball skills are inconsistent, especially with a defensive back closing on the catch point. Overall, Mims must become a more consistent route technician, but he offers the length and contested catch ability of a big receiver while moving like a much smaller athlete to create separation, projecting has a high-upside receiver.
Assessing the position: The Jets desperately needed help at receiver after letting Robby Anderson walk in free agency. Mims figures to slide in and contribute from Day 1, joining Breshad Perriman (outside) and Jamison Crowder (slot) in most three-wide sets. The Jets also have Braxton Berrios, Vyncint Smith and Josh Doctson, among others, on the roster. It wouldn’t be much of a surprise if Mims isn’t the last receiver the Jets draft. Adding him is a step in the right direction, but New York still needs more weapons for their young quarterback.
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True. Between crowder, quincy, and perriman we have 1.75 wr
Crowder is one of the best slot WRs in the NFL. Highly underrated.
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Traditionally it is a difficult position to learn. First year WR's typically have trouble.
Not compared to other positions. If you execute a handful of routes correctly in a game you can be productive and help your team, especially with his speed and size. It's not like O line where any mistake can get your QB killed, or D where you can give up a big play or a TD.
I'm sure there are routes or blocking techniques he needs to work on, but there's no reason he can't be an impact player this year on this team.
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Crowder is one of the best slot WRs in the NFL. Highly underrated.
Crowder = 1 wr
Perriman = .7 wr
Quincy = .05 wr
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Crowder = 1 wr
Perriman = .7 wr
Quincy = .05 wr
Math checks out
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Not compared to other positions. If you execute a handful of routes correctly in a game you can be productive and help your team, especially with his speed and size. It's not like O line where any mistake can get your QB killed, or D where you can give up a big play or a TD.
I'm sure there are routes or blocking techniques he needs to work on, but there's no reason he can't be an impact player this year on this team.
No, Puck is right.
Most receiver prospects do not take off until their third season.
Coverage at the NCAA level is very vanilla and most offenses (especially Baylors) do not use complete route trees.
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The "receivers break out in Year 3" used to be the rule of thumb among wide receivers. I used to target 3rd-year receivers in fantasy for that reason. Braylon Edwards might have been my biggest hit out of that group.
I don't think that's as big of a deal as it used to be 15 years ago. Mims needs to make an impact in year 1 and year 2. I'm not expecting 1,000 yards, but if he can have 500-600 yards and 5-6 touchdowns, that would be fine, as long as Perriman and Crowder do their jobs.
There will be a learning curve for sure, but even if Mims is used in a bit role like a Tre'Quan Smith, he needs to make some plays this season. Smith had 28 Rec, 427 yds, 5 TD as a rookie in 15 games.
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No, Puck is right.
Most receiver prospects do not take off until their third season.
Coverage at the NCAA level is very vanilla and most offenses (especially Baylors) do not use complete route trees.
I'm sure there's room for improvement but there's no reason he can't be a contributor while he learns the ropes. It's not like a QB who has to learn the whole offense. Start him with a few simple things he can do in games to take advantage of his physical skills.
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Smith had 28 Rec, 427 yds, 5 TD as a rookie in 15 games.
That would be terrible production for a player that might be expected to be our #2 receiver.
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If Mims doesn't have 8 catches for 237 yards week 1, cut Doug and open the country cuz my dawter deserves her prom!
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No, Puck is right.
Most receiver prospects do not take off until their third season.
Coverage at the NCAA level is very vanilla and most offenses (especially Baylors) do not use complete route trees.
THis year is going to be pretty tough on all young players. As of now there's no hands on coaching.
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That would be terrible production for a player that might be expected to be our #2 receiver.
Perriman is our #1 receiver. Crowder will probably lead us in catches. Mims is third on the WR totem pole entering the year. If he exceeds that, great. We also have Herndon/Griffin and Bell to get catches.
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Perriman is our #1 receiver. Crowder will probably lead us in catches. Mims is third on the WR totem pole entering the year. If he exceeds that, great. We also have Herndon/Griffin and Bell to get catches.
Considering all things I wouldn't even expect Mims to be 3rd in production this year for just wideouts. Factor in tight ends and backs and i could easily see him being 6th or so in catches/yards this year.
Rookies are going to struggle mightly across the board. Especially ones who are dependent on practices.
I think there's a fairly solid chance Perine is our most productive rookie this year outside of the punter. Becton included.
Maybe Davis depending on how often he actually gets to see the field
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#Jets second round pick Denzel Mims confirms he will be wearing number 11, the Jets have replaced Robby Anderson’s number quickly
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Replaced who?
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#Jets second round pick Denzel Mims confirms he will be wearing number 11, the Jets have replaced Robby Anderson’s number quickly
Switched from 15 to 11 because 11 receivers were picked ahead of him
He mad
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Switched from 15 to 11 because 11 receivers were picked ahead of him
He mad
Except there were 12 ahead of him. So mad he can't count!
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Are we counting Jalen Hurts?
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Except there were 12 ahead of him. So mad he can't count!
Mims is a Baylor guy and therefore refuses to acknowledge the existence of Jalen Reagor.
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He can't have #12, we retired it for some old QB.
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He can't have #12, we retired it for some old QB.
He also can't have #13 (13th receiver) because of Maynard.
Pretty funny, how he's trying to pick his number based on getting slighted and he can't even pick one that makes sense.
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He also can't have #13 (13th receiver) because of Maynard.
Pretty funny, how he's trying to pick his number based on getting slighted and he can't even pick one that makes sense.
Should have just stuck with the 15 in green like he had in college.
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I really like the clips I’ve seen from him. Can really go up and get it, Crazy arm extension and snatches the ball out of the air.
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Should have just stuck with the 15 in green like he had in college.
Reincarnation of BMarsh would be pretty awesome
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Saw a video that compared Mims to Braylon Edwards (PFF I think). I can totally buy that comparison.
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Looking for someone to help me understand why we're optimistic that Mims can have more success than recent WRs that came out of Baylor?
Some of the WR's in recent memory have had, what I would consider, ok to below average careers in the NFL.
Kendall Wright
Corey Coleman
Terrance Williams
The most accomplished is possibly Terrance Williams? I left out Hurd since he was on IR and hasn't played a single snap.
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Looking for someone to help me understand why we're optimistic that Mims can have more success than recent WRs that came out of Baylor?
Some of the WR's in recent memory have had, what I would consider, ok to below average careers in the NFL.
Kendall Wright
Corey Coleman
Terrance Williams
The most accomplished is possibly Terrance Williams? I left out Hurd since he was on IR and hasn't played a single snap.
Josh Gordon babbie
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Looking for someone to help me understand why we're optimistic that Mims can have more success than recent WRs that came out of Baylor?
Some of the WR's in recent memory have had, what I would consider, ok to below average careers in the NFL.
Kendall Wright
Corey Coleman
Terrance Williams
The most accomplished is possibly Terrance Williams? I left out Hurd since he was on IR and hasn't played a single snap.
Those receivers played in Art Briles' Air Raid system. Denzel Mims was recruited by that staff, but he played in a completely different offense under Matt Rhule's regime.
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Wright and Coleman are also slot receivers.
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Josh Gordon babbie
I love how people keep ignoring Gordon when pointing out the lack of success of Baylor receivers. If Gordon could have stayed off the weed, he probably would have turned out to be one of the best receivers of his generation.
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I love how people keep ignoring Gordon when pointing out the lack of success of Baylor receivers. If Gordon could have stayed off the weed, he probably would have turned out to be one of the best receivers of his generation.
No one's ignoring Gordon's ability. My point the other day is that Baylor has over the last few years produced a series of talented receivers with good college production who are for one reason or another mentally not ready to translate their skills to the NFL. It seems like Baylor has been producing good football players who poorly developed individuals. This could be an Art Briles thing; on a superficial level at least he and Rhule have very different approaches to the personal development that is such an important part of college years, but it could also be in part an issue of the recruiting process.
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Aside from Xavien Howard, has Baylor had any prospects that have panned out?
They are a historically bad program that had a decent stretch under a terrible human being as head coach. He did literally whatever it took to make them credible and the bottom fell out.
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Aside from Xavien Howard, has Baylor had any prospects that have panned out?
I think you can make a case the RGIII would have panned out had Shanahan not destroyed him.
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You can find good players anywhere.
Look at Snacks Harrison. Hopefully we'll be saying the same thing about Cam Clark.
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Still waiting for someone to identify the school that does not produce busts.
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Still waiting for someone to identify the school that does not produce busts.
Chadron State produced Don Beebe and Danny Woodhead, with no busts that I can think of. Therefore, all players should be drafted from Chadron State.
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Still waiting for someone to identify the school that does not produce busts.
That's not really the point. We're talking about a school that consistently produces good college players who are drafted high and fail in the NFL. It's not unreasonable to investigate whether it's a coincidence, or a fundamental flaw in the system.
The last two drafts are the first ones to exclusively feature Baylor players who weren't part of Briles' program. Let's see if something changes.
Also, Delaware's record in the last decade or so has been good.
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It only takes one to buck the trend
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It only takes one to buck the trend
And Statistically speaking, Mims is due to break some trends
1. Baylor's lack of WR success
2. Jets lack of WR success
3. Jets lack of second round success
4. Jets Lack of drafting Pro Bowl Players
So here's hoping he's the guy to buck all the trends, and becomes the best WR from the class
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4. Jets Lack of drafting Pro Bowl Players
Seems like Jamal broke that one.
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Seems like Jamal broke that one.
Which is why it infuriates me that people want to trade him
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Which is why it infuriates me that people want to trade him
Who wants to trade him?
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Seems like Jamal broke that one.
Yup. So that means we have draft how many guys who made a pro bowl for us since Revis? 3? Adams, MoWilk and Sheldon?
Is there anybody else aside from them since the 2007 draft?
And when’s the last time we drafted an offensive player who made a pro bowl? Mangold?
Sweet jesus
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the Packers were trying to trade up to secure a WR in the 2nd and wanted mims, but we drafted him 3 picks before they were up
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the Packers were trying to trade up to secure a WR in the 2nd and wanted mims, but we drafted him 3 picks before they were up
He would have become dynamite with Rodgers.
Hopefully he becomes just as good or better here in New York
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https://twitter.com/thejacobofben/status/1255521473780948994?s=21
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Denzel Mims has more contested catches than any WR in college football since 2017.
-PFF
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Denzel Mims has more contested catches than any WR in college football since 2017.
-PFF
I hate this stat.
It's because he cannot separate consistently.
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Completely unscientific observation here, but every highlight I see of him making a contested catch, he's jumping like 2 inches off the ground. I will say, he makes some difficult catches, but let's not pretend he's a redzone fiend, jumping over guys in the NFL.
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Completely unscientific observation here, but every highlight I see of him making a contested catch, he's jumping like 2 inches off the ground. I will say, he makes some difficult catches, but let's not pretend he's a redzone fiend, jumping over guys in the NFL.
Interesting, he had a 38.5 Vert, only guys that got drafted higher with better Verts were Ruggs and Reagor. He’s in the 93rd percentile for wingspan. I disagree with most of your assessment, based on what I’ve seen. Looks good in the red zone, and goes way up over corners to get the ball.
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I hate this stat.
It's because he cannot separate consistently.
Robby could separate with ease on deep routes, but couldn’t make contested catches and was weak on jump balls or any catch with a defender trying to break it up. I like how Mims attacks the ball, Robby would usually turn and wait for the ball to come to him.
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Interesting, he had a 38.5 Vert, only guys that got drafted higher with better Verts were Ruggs and Reagor. He’s in the 93rd percentile for wingspan. I disagree with most of your assessment, based on what I’ve seen. Looks good in the red zone, and goes way up over corners to get the ball.
I'm probably wrong. I'm good at that.
I think we can still all agree that Puck is a homo.
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I'm probably wrong. I'm good at that.
I think we can still all agree that Puck is a homo.
I mean I haven’t watched extensive tape on him so there’s a good chance I’m wrong too. There’s also the point that these are college corners, but I really like the Vertical aspect to his game. Sam seems to to like to throw it up to his guys and let them go get it, but we haven’t had many of those type of weapons. Sam made Terrelle Pryor look like an NFL player for a few weeks in his rookie season.
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Mims looked like a cheat code on 50/50 balls that were thrown deep or to the end zone
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Completely unscientific observation here, but every highlight I see of him making a contested catch, he's jumping like 2 inches off the ground. I will say, he makes some difficult catches, but let's not pretend he's a redzone fiend, jumping over guys in the NFL.
I will give him credit for being a power forward type of receiver. He'll body defensive backs and post up for contested catch. He's good at it, but the problem is that he HAS to do this all the time because he can't separate from coverage.
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Robby could separate with ease on deep routes, but couldn’t make contested catches and was weak on jump balls or any catch with a defender trying to break it up. I like how Mims attacks the ball, Robby would usually turn and wait for the ball to come to him.
Robby is also built like Steve Urkel.
He can run by people, but he wasn't doing much inside the numbers or in the quick passing game.
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I'm not trying to knock Mims or the pick. It's a high value pick and he was the right choice there, but we should temper our expectations of him early on.
We needed a red zone weapon and he can be that player right away, but he could also struggle mightily against press coverage (hopefully not for long because he is physical) and he has a very limited route repertoire.
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He is very similar to Stephen Hill skillset wise and he also reminds me of another current NYJ WR Josh Doctson.
Doctson could win vertically and was a 50/50 ball machine, but he could never get open consistently.
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Let's look at it this way, all Mims has to do is amass more than 45 receptions and 4 TD's over the course of two seasons, and he'll already be better than Stephen Hill.
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His route separation is concerning, out of boredom I’ve been watching some of his breakdown videos and he rarely gets free from the DB
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I guess the question is really why does he struggle separating? Is that because he isn’t athletic enough to separate? His testing suggests that’s not the case. Is it because he’s not physical enough? Again it’s not suggested that’s the case. Is it because he isn’t a good enough route runner? That’s a skill he CAN learn. That doesn’t mean he will.
Once it’s identified why he struggles to separate, we can identify whether it will continue to be a struggle for Mims in the pros, or if it is something he can improve upon
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Too soon to cut him?
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He's also bigger, faster and longer than pretty much every CB he will go up against. He doesn't play to his 40 time on his routes, but with the ball in his hands, he can.
Last year, the size/speed monster in the draft was DK Metcalf. I just flipped on a Metcalf highlight reel from last year in Seattle. Metcalf isn't wide open in most of these catches (at least for the first 2 minutes I watched).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GfbbrHfEtQ
Jordy Nelson wasn't a monster at getting separation, but if you threw 1-on-1 to him in the red zone or on a deep ball, he was likely to make those plays for Aaron Rodgers. And on shorter passes, he could use his size to box out defenders and make plays.
He will need time to develop as a route runner to reach his full potential. But in the short term, he can be an effective deep threat and red-zone threat.
If Mims were 5'11" and relied on making plays in traffic, I would be more concerned. Obviously, Mims has bust potential. There are some Stephen Hill vibes to his game, but there are also some Metcalf/Nelson/Braylon Edwards.
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He doesn't play to his 40 time on his routes, but with the ball in his hands, he can.
His straight line speed is fine. He doesn't do much after the catch and he hasn't been asked to do anything over the middle other than the occasional slant against zone.
I don't care if he ran a 4.22 or a 4.70. He is not a good route runner.
Like I said earlier, he can and should be a problem in the red zone. We need help there. It's everywhere else where I'm worried.
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He's also bigger, faster and longer than pretty much every CB he will go up against. He doesn't play to his 40 time on his routes, but with the ball in his hands, he can.
Last year, the size/speed monster in the draft was DK Metcalf. I just flipped on a Metcalf highlight reel from last year in Seattle. Metcalf isn't wide open in most of these catches (at least for the first 2 minutes I watched).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GfbbrHfEtQ
Jordy Nelson wasn't a monster at getting separation, but if you threw 1-on-1 to him in the red zone or on a deep ball, he was likely to make those plays for Aaron Rodgers. And on shorter passes, he could use his size to box out defenders and make plays.
He will need time to develop as a route runner to reach his full potential. But in the short term, he can be an effective deep threat and red-zone threat.
If Mims were 5'11" and relied on making plays in traffic, I would be more concerned. Obviously, Mims has bust potential. There are some Stephen Hill vibes to his game, but there are also some Metcalf/Nelson/Braylon Edwards.
That's an interesting comp. You probably don't remember but I wasn't big on Metcalf last year, I always have fears about players who are so physically dominant in college that they can outmuscle some of their technical weaknesses and in Metcalf's case his limited route running. Heismanberg disagreed with me and clearly he was proven right this season; if Mims can be a slightly less showy but similarly modelled option for us then I'm all for it.
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Mims is not DK
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Mims is not DK
You right he named after Denzel and he a real one
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I just want Mims to make plays like this.
https://youtu.be/tjA4YtTmgTg?t=372
https://youtu.be/D7Ify8fUas0?t=215
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Mims is already better than 80% of the receivers Sam has had to play with
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I don't remember Hill having that power forward ability to box out CBs either in his college career or the NFL so Mims is probably ahead of him in that aspect.
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I don't remember Hill having that power forward ability to box out CBs either in his college career or the NFL so Mims is probably ahead of him in that aspect.
Stephen Hill played like a complete hoo-ha.
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Stephen Hill had no idea what he was doing
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Much like Robby, Mims can be a solid number two with higher upside than Anderson ever offered.
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Stephen Hill played like a complete hoo-ha.
He came into the NFL to be coached by Sanjay Lal and Tony Sparano. It's not a huge shocker that he struggled to figure things out - they knew he was raw when he was drafted and he didn't come into the best environment, that receivers room was a mix of assholes and scrubs.
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Much like Robby, Mims can be a solid number two with higher upside than Anderson ever offered.
I would be more than fine with this. Hopefully should be able to land a #1 next offseason
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Mims' twitter game will be a massive downgrade from Robby.
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He came into the NFL to be coached by Sanjay Lal and Tony Sparano. It's not a huge shocker that he struggled to figure things out - they knew he was raw when he was drafted and he didn't come into the best environment, that receivers room was a mix of assholes and scrubs.
Robby was raw too and didn’t get any help from his coaches. Hill was a complete waste of physical gifts
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Mims' twitter game will be a massive downgrade from Robby.
Biggest loss tbh
Becton is p cool
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Robby was raw too and didn’t get any help from his coaches. Hill was a complete waste of physical gifts
Robby was just told to do the one thing he knew how to do - beat your man downfield. Robby is also much better at tracking the ball over his shoulder than not just Hill, but quite a lot of receivers.
Hill was asked to learn a bunch of routes and never had a clue how to do it. Several plays every game would finish with him looking around confused as to where he was and whether he was supposed to be there.
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Robby was just told to do the one thing he knew how to do
That's really all he can do.
Elite deep threat ability will be missed but I'd prefer a more well rounded receiver.
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That's really all he can do.
Elite deep threat ability will be missed but I'd prefer a more well rounded receiver.
Vyncynt Smyth's deep threat ability says hi.
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Vyncynt Smyth's deep threat ability says hi.
Vynynsyty Symythy
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https://twitter.com/mattwaldman/status/1256295078999535616?s=21
50 minute film breakdown on Mims detailing his evolution as a route runner from 2017 > 2018 > 2019.
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https://twitter.com/mattwaldman/status/1256295078999535616?s=21
50 minute film breakdown on Mims detailing his evolution as a route runner from 2017 > 2018 > 2019.
Would appreciate a summary once someone's watched it.
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Would appreciate a summary once someone's watched it.
I watched the first 5 minutes and it was enough for me to put him in the Hall of Fame
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Would appreciate a summary once someone's watched it.
Watched the whole thing over a couple of days. Main points:
1. He got significantly better at getting into and out of breaks over three years, cuts became sharper, he routinely gets reasonable separation from the cuts he makes.
2. He has very strong catching fundamentals, even when he has to contort his body/fight through contact his hands are regularly in good position, goes up to meet the ball with hands together.
3. Shows relatively strong awareness on the boundary, but inconsistent about getting both feet in, room for improvement at the NFL level.
4. Has several strong releases and varies them within the course of the game. Often will try to use plays where he knows he's not getting targeted to set up a release for later in the game - shows that he's thinking and adjusting as the game goes on.
5. Very, very strong blocker downfield, transitions from routes into blocking well and will finish blocking assignments even when he doesn't know the play is developing behind him. Likewise, will occasionally get open by faking blocks and then transitioning into a route.
6. Has the speed and cutting to get away from one-on-one coverage. The guy who was doing the analysis basically didn't specifically talk about the quarterback play at all, but from what I observed, even on plays that Mims beat his coverage, he often had to slow down because the QB didn't lead him down the field. He was also regularly open on quick hitch routes but the quarterback wouldn't throw until after Mims had made his cut, allowing the CB to recover and close.
7. Thoughtful route runner, understands how to get guys to bite on fakes.
8. Quick to turn his head and get up field after the catch, doesn't spend time dancing around/moving backwards.
Basically a lot of praise. The guy said that regardless of the results he was getting, Mims has a really solid process. He doesn't rely on one skill, he's technically sound and improving every year, reliably gets open against all sorts of coverage, plays smart, and is athletic enough to beat anybody and make just about every catch.
Also he really just goes on and on about blocking, makes it seem like Mims could start at RG tomorrow.
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Manish Mehta
@MMehtaNYDN
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Source: Jets have agreed to terms on a 4-year, $5.4M deal with second-round WR Denzel Mims. $3M guaranteed.
Some positive news....
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Good.
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Good.
in b4 his holdout next season
just kidding.
well...maybe not.
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in b4 his holdout next season
just kidding.
well...maybe not.
Extend everyone except Winters.
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Watched the whole thing over a couple of days. Main points:
1. He got significantly better at getting into and out of breaks over three years, cuts became sharper, he routinely gets reasonable separation from the cuts he makes.
2. He has very strong catching fundamentals, even when he has to contort his body/fight through contact his hands are regularly in good position, goes up to meet the ball with hands together.
3. Shows relatively strong awareness on the boundary, but inconsistent about getting both feet in, room for improvement at the NFL level.
4. Has several strong releases and varies them within the course of the game. Often will try to use plays where he knows he's not getting targeted to set up a release for later in the game - shows that he's thinking and adjusting as the game goes on.
5. Very, very strong blocker downfield, transitions from routes into blocking well and will finish blocking assignments even when he doesn't know the play is developing behind him. Likewise, will occasionally get open by faking blocks and then transitioning into a route.
6. Has the speed and cutting to get away from one-on-one coverage. The guy who was doing the analysis basically didn't specifically talk about the quarterback play at all, but from what I observed, even on plays that Mims beat his coverage, he often had to slow down because the QB didn't lead him down the field. He was also regularly open on quick hitch routes but the quarterback wouldn't throw until after Mims had made his cut, allowing the CB to recover and close.
7. Thoughtful route runner, understands how to get guys to bite on fakes.
8. Quick to turn his head and get up field after the catch, doesn't spend time dancing around/moving backwards.
Basically a lot of praise. The guy said that regardless of the results he was getting, Mims has a really solid process. He doesn't rely on one skill, he's technically sound and improving every year, reliably gets open against all sorts of coverage, plays smart, and is athletic enough to beat anybody and make just about every catch.
Also he really just goes on and on about blocking, makes it seem like Mims could start at RG tomorrow.
Wow great praise and even better write up. Appreciate it
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i know somebody who saw mims at newark airport a couple of days ago, and said his girl was fine
already promising signs from him
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i know somebody who saw mims at newark airport a couple of days ago, and said his girl was fine
already promising signs from him
Can he get her to post here?
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Can he get her to post here?
Do you really want to subject her to dcm? Mims will demand a trade.
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He's not wrong.
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https://twitter.com/jpafootball/status/1279912623748849664?s=21
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https://twitter.com/jpafootball/status/1279912623748849664?s=21
all time favorite jet
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ed8EeR7X0AAtwyU?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
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Robby who
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https://twitter.com/loyalnyjetfans/status/1292152519905419264?s=20
I’m sure this has something to do with his first time working with a legit NFL QB, but still
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https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1297217201452220417?s=20
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Doesn’t sound like Denzel Mims is going to practice this week. He’s still working toward cutting & running.
Gase said when he starts to open up, there are times when he still “feels something.” #Jets
Hughes
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Second round curse lives on
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Save Mimms for when Sam's back.
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Second round curse lives on
Quick ranking on games played for Jets second round picks since 2008:
1. Vlad Ducasse
2. Maye
3. Geno Smith
4. Jace Amaro
5. Stephen Hill
6. Devin Smith
7. Hackenberg, Mims
Low expectations = guaranteed success
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Save Mimms for when Sam's back.
Save him for Trevor
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I thought Hill and Amaro were going to be studs
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I thought Hill and Amaro were going to be studs
SOME DUDES
I wanted Jeffery but I talked myself into being excited for Hill.
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Hill was an awful, awful pick.
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Quick ranking on games played for Jets second round picks since 2008:
1. Vlad Ducasse
2. Maye
3. Geno Smith
4. Jace Amaro
5. Stephen Hill
6. Devin Smith
7. Hackenberg, Mims
Low expectations = guaranteed success
It's hard to overstate how disastrous this is. The second round, you should be getting high end starters there, we're lucky if anyone contributes at all. It's been going on this way forever, too. When you refuse to pay or keep your first rounders and get nothing from the second round, it's no mystery why this team is never good.
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I didn't think Denzel Mims was going to be particularly good in the first place, but it really sucks to not have him out there. Our receiving corps is so bad.
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We're usually pretty high up in the second round, too. Hard to believe we miss on all of them.
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2nd round jinx strikes again.
I think Stephen Hill will have had a more productive career in a Jets uniform than Mimz
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Quick ranking on games played for Jets second round picks since 2008:
1. Vlad Ducasse
2. Maye
3. Geno Smith
4. Jace Amaro
5. Stephen Hill
6. Devin Smith
7. Hackenberg, Mims
Low expectations = guaranteed success
I already know how damn bad the list is. But I for one am shocked that Vlad Ducasse has played more games than Marcus Maye has.
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I already know how damn bad the list is. But I for one am shocked that Vlad Ducasse has played more games than Marcus Maye has.
50 games and 5 starts over 4 seasons for Vlad, Maye is at 44
I thought Hill and Amaro were going to be studs
Combined 37 games played as Jets, and approaching 1000 career yards receiving between the two of them! Fun fact, they're both multiple years younger than Chris Hogan.
I think Stephen Hill will have had a more productive career in a Jets uniform than Mimz
Mims was significantly more polished and accomplished coming out of college than Hill ever was. Only way he doesn't hit those productivity numbers (45 career catches, 4 touchdowns) should be injury.
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Mims was significantly more polished and accomplished coming out of college than Hill ever was. Only way he doesn't hit those productivity numbers (45 career catches, 4 touchdowns) should be injury.
Thus far he's right on track
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1320469093376544772?s=19
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He's going to have to get used to #1 CB coverage the rest of the way, assuming Perriman is out.
Teams are going to put their best CB on Mims, put two guys on our slot WR, and dare us to beat them (we can't).
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Yeah, but not all of them are Tre’Davious White. He should be ok... if we can give him the ball of course.
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In thinking about this a little bit more I’m not sure whether we should be impressed or depressed that Mims, playing in his first ever NFL game after missing literally every activity but like 2 practices prior to last week was deemed good enough by the Bills to garner Whites attention.
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Hot Take: Mims will outperform Devin Smith as a Jet
Devin Smith's NYJ Stats: 10 catches for 135 yards and 1 TD
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He looked good in the first half, I haven't seen the second half yet. For his first game he was involved, can't wait to see more.
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He looked good in the first half, I haven't seen the second half yet. For his first game he was involved, can't wait to see more.
No one saw the second half either
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No one saw the second half either
Apparently the Jets missed it. I got out of the car as Roberts took the second half kickoff past the 50.
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https://twitter.com/_stevefrederick/status/1321572333459525637?s=21
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Very challenging matchup for Denzel Mims today. Will be a focal point w/ Crowder and Perriman out, and it will be against a great Chiefs CB group.
Kansas City cornerbacks have allowed the 2nd-fewest yards per target (6.85) and 3rd-fewest yards per cover snap (0.92)
Nania
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I say next week we throw another pass his way. Can't hurt.
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I say next week we throw another pass his way. Can't hurt.
Easy now. We don't want to damage his confidence. Probably better just to give it to Gore a couple more times to be safe.
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Easy now. We don't want to damage his confidence. Probably better just to give it to Gore a couple more times to be safe.
To be fair, it might hurt my confidence, too, if I were stuck on this awful team.
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Easy now. We don't want to damage his confidence. Probably better just to give it to Gore a couple more times to be safe.
Right. Each target he gets, stunts his growth.
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Jets played 56 snaps:
- Mims: 54
- Berrios: 47
- Jeff: 47
- Vyncint: 13
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Apparently Mims is the first WR in team history to lead the team in receiving in his first two career games.
With 6 catches for 84 total yards in both games on I believe 10 total targets.
My god we are bad at throwing the football. But still it’s nice to know Mims already has a franchise record through 2 career starts
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Apparently Mims is the first WR in team history to lead the team in receiving in his first two career games.
With 6 catches for 84 total yards in both games on I believe 10 total targets.
My god we are bad at throwing the football. But still it’s nice to know Mims already has a franchise record through 2 career starts
I would have guessed Stephen Hill.
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I would have guessed Stephen Hill.
Al Toon caught at least three passes in his first 40 or 50 games. Obviously we had a much better passing game and he was a HOF talent had he not gotten so many concussions.
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Rookies since 1970 to post 40+ receiving yards in each of their first 5 career games:
- Terry Glenn (1996)
- Andre Johnson (2003)
- Stefon Diggs (2015)
- Amari Cooper (2015)
- Michael Thomas (2016)
- Terry McLaurin (2019)
- CeeDee Lamb (2020)
- Denzel Mims (2020)
Nania
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Nania
even a 13 year old me was hoping that andre johnson fell to us that draft as opposed to drafting d-rob lmao
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All but Glenn are post 2000, you can see how the rule changes have affected the numbers. Jerry Rice was phenomenal as a rookie and his QB was Joe Montana.
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With any luck the Raiders will get him to 6. I'm sure that list shrinks in size a bit each week....
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https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/denzel-mims-new-york-jets-break-down-evaluation
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Highest-graded rookie WRs
1. Justin Jefferson, Vikings - 90.1
2. Brandon Aiyuk, 49ers - 79.0
3. Chase Claypool, Steelers - 75.3
4. Denzel Mims, Jets - 74.3
PFF
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With any luck the Raiders will get him to 6. I'm sure that list shrinks in size a bit each week....
Rookie WRs in NFL history to post 40+ receiving yards in each of their first 6 career games
- Andre Johnson (2003)
- Amari Cooper (2015)
- Stefon Diggs (2015)
- Michael Thomas (2016)
- CeeDee Lamb (2020)
- Denzel Mims (2020)
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We really need to target him more than 3 times a game (and once on a 2 pt conversion).
With luck Seattle gets him to 7 games.
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We really need to target him more than 3 times a game (and once on a 2 pt conversion).
With luck Seattle gets him to 7 games.
Can't do that. Gase it concerned him catching the ball may stunt his growth.
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At least he's playing. Since the bye, he's 1st in targets and rec yds and tied for 1st in receptions. Perriman is playing slightly more snaps, but Mims is still playing a ton.
I would love to see Mims get more targets, but I don't know if that's a function of Gase calling bad plays or Darnold not being able to find him.
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Any time we get our 2nd round pick on the field it's gravy. If he's productive it's unbelievable. Harris, Maye and now Mims since 2007.
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He needs 18 yards over the next four games to surpass Stephen Hill's best season with us. He passed Devin Smith's career total two weeks ago.
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He needs 18 yards over the next four games to surpass Stephen Hill's best season with us. He passed Devin Smith's career total two weeks ago.
Next up to pass on that list of legends should be Jace Amaro, aka Early Man.
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Next up to pass on that list of legends should be Jace Amaro, aka Early Man.
I have such a blind spot in my memory for Simple Jace, but anytime somebody mentions him it makes me laugh.
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I have such a blind spot in my memory for Simple Jace, but anytime somebody mentions him it makes me laugh.
Someone here made a funny avatar of him, it's one of the only reasons I even remember him.
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https://twitter.com/michael_nania/status/1344353849704914948?s=21
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https://twitter.com/michael_nania/status/1344353849704914948?s=21
Darnold's getting hate in the comments for not seeing him but he already had to roll around Not Penei Sewell.
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Darnold's getting hate in the comments for not seeing him but he already had to roll around Not Penei Sewell.
Sam isn't good but its dumb to blame him here IMO.
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Darnold made the right play there. He got out of the pocket and made the completion for a first down.
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Still a killer route.
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Darnold's getting hate in the comments for not seeing him but he already had to roll around Not Penei Sewell.
Yup. The RT got walked back into Sam.
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https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/86928/call-them-gang-green-new-york-jets-prepare-for-a-season-like-no-other
Speaking of sneaky good signings, Keelan Cole can ball. He will be in the wide receiver rotation. ... Denzel Mims, who started eight games last season, isn't even among the best five receivers on this year's roster.
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I'll wait for TC to be over before i start panicking about Mims.
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If Denzel Mims is our fifth best wideout, that's a good problem to have.
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Corey Davis
Keelan Cole
Jamison Crowder
Elijah Moore
Denzel Mims
Cole, Crowder, and Moore are best inside the numbers. Mims is a true x and he can block on the perimeter. Just because he hasn't flashed in minicamp doesn't mean he won't have a bigger role. We need someone opposite Corey Davis when we spread things out.
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Corey Davis
Keelan Cole
Jamison Crowder
Elijah Moore
Denzel Mims
Cole, Crowder, and Moore are best inside the numbers. Mims is a true x and he can block on the perimeter. Just because he hasn't flashed in minicamp doesn't mean he won't have a bigger role. We need someone opposite Corey Davis when we spread things out.
You forgot Braxton Berrios and the Smith brothers.
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You forgot Braxton Berrios and the Smith brothers.
No, I did not.
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It's a very deep WR corps. If Mims isn't as good as they hoped he would be, we don't have to play him, and he can develop behind the scenes. There used to be a time where 3rd-year WR breakouts were extremely common occurrences.
Mims is the 5th-most accomplished WR on this roster. Davis had nearly 1,000 yards last season. Crowder is an accomplished slot guy. Cole had 642 yards last season, and he's had some blowup games in the NFL. Even Berrios was pretty effective in the slot last year.
Davis, Crowder, Cole and Berrios would be one of the worst WR corps in the NFL, but there is enough reasonable talent there where we could survive. I hope Mims steps up and claims an outside spot because he has a ton of upside, but if we need to take it slow with him, we will be fine, especially if Moore can play right away.
As much as I liked Mims coming out, the Jets had a chance to draft him early in the 2nd round (and I would have loved the pick), and they opted to trade down instead. So while they like Mims, they clearly liked Moore more as a prospect.
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I heard someone (Connor Hughes?) mention Mins had food poisoning or some intestinal crap going on for a good part of the practices. Would explain sluggishness.
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https://twitter.com/profootballtalk/status/1424021477494607872?s=21
Didn’t read, fake news
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Bizarre how fast this dude went from exciting and promising to worthless garbage
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Bizarre how fast this dude went from exciting and promising to worthless garbage
So he’s worthless because we have talent and depth at WR now?
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He has a different skill set. Not sure it matters where he is on a depth chart.
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So he’s worthless because we have talent and depth at WR now?
i think cimini outright calling out that we're going to trade this guy based off where/how he's been in what is still the early preseason in mims' second year is extremely premature, but it was enough for the rest of the league 'sources' to start saying we're looking to move this guy
our reporters are fvckin trash
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So he’s worthless because we have talent and depth at WR now?
It doesn't sound like that's the reason he's worthless.
But well find out exactly his value if he gets cut/traded. And it sounds like that might be for a very low value
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Costello said on a podcast that anyone who suggests Mims is on the roster bubble doesn't know what he's talking about. Besides Davis, we don't have anyone else with size at the position. Mims showed a lot of promise as a rookie. The idea of trading him for pennies on the dollar before his second season has even started is ludicrous.
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Costello said on a podcast that anyone who suggests Mims is on the roster bubble doesn't know what he's talking about. Besides Davis, we don't have anyone else with size at the position. Mims showed a lot of promise as a rookie. The idea of trading him for pennies on the dollar before his second season has even started is ludicrous.
So much this. Cimini is stirring up all kinds of excrement and national reporters took Cimini’s word for it and ran with the story.
I refuse to believe the staff doesn’t look at Mims and see incredible potential for success. Does he need work? Obviously, but there is stuff to work with and I would be absolutely shocked if we “give up on” Mims before the likes of Perine, Zuniga, Davis or Morgan from last years draft class.
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Costello said on a podcast that anyone who suggests Mims is on the roster bubble doesn't know what he's talking about. Besides Davis, we don't have anyone else with size at the position. Mims showed a lot of promise as a rookie. The idea of trading him for pennies on the dollar before his second season has even started is ludicrous.
Yup. Dick living up to his namesake. Mims is safe until he Twitter feed is bad enough to pee off Heis.
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The big thing going against Mims is that he has zero special teams ability. At WR5/6, you're essentially eschewing a player who can make a contribution on 10-15 plays a game for a guy who's going to be a healthy scratch unless someone gets hurt.
There's so much talent there, I'd love to see him get three seasons to put it all together. But if he goes, I'll understand. He had a solid opportunity to demonstrate his indispensability over the course of last season and he spent most of it in the tub. So it goes.
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Corey Davis and Denzel Mims are the only true outside receivers on this team.
Vycint Smith doesn't count.
Moore and Crowder are better inside and Cole probably is too.
Davis
Moore
Crowder
Cole
Mims
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Corey Davis and Denzel Mims are the only true outside receivers on this team.
Vycint Smith doesn't count.
Moore and Crowder are better inside and Cole probably is too.
Davis
Moore
Crowder
Cole
Mims
At a bare minimum, Mims deserves to be here because he is the only guy on the roster with a skill set remotely similar to Davis. If Davis goes down, we have no one who can do what he does.
I think Mims is a hell of a lot more than that, but clearly my opinion is invalid
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I struggle to believe JD will admit failure after 1 yr on a 2nd rd pick
Nor do I think he should. Even if Mims ends up WR4 or WR5 were 1 injury from him getting a uptick in snaps
The discussion is pointless imo
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Also I saw enough last yr to know the kid can play. He just needs to stay healthy .
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i think cimini outright calling out that we're going to trade this guy based off where/how he's been in what is still the early preseason in mims' second year is extremely premature, but it was enough for the rest of the league 'sources' to start saying we're looking to move this guy
our reporters are fvckin trash
yup
fvck the jets beat
fvckin attention whore-ing histrionic pvssies
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https://twitter.com/tonypauline/status/1425151877986017280?s=21
lol
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https://twitter.com/tonypauline/status/1425151877986017280?s=21
lol
Man, I hate that player of the pink oboe
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Sources = reddit
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He's still less wrong about it than the sensationalist Jets beat.
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He's still less wrong about it than the sensationalist Jets beat.
This has been true more than zero times, which is a hilarious commentary on the state of our beat reporters
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At least Pauline pointed out that Mims lost 15 lbs with food poisoning in June.
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https://twitter.com/connorjrogers/status/1425497364501090306?s=21
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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- New York Jets wide receiver Denzel Mims used to enjoy salmon, but not anymore. In the spring, he ate a plate of bad salmon that triggered a bout of food poisoning, which caused him to lose 20 pounds.
"I haven't touched salmon ever since then," Mims said Wednesday.
Mims, a 2020 second-round pick, missed most of the offseason practices as he dealt with the severe effects. He vomited for two weeks and required antibiotics because of an intestinal infection. He didn't say where he ate the salmon (he wasn't asked), but a source said it was served in the Jets' cafeteria. His weight plummeted from 217 to 197, such a dramatic decline that he's only back to 208 after two months of healthy eating.
Ayfkm guys
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He didn't say where he ate the salmon (he wasn't asked), but a source said it was served in the Jets' cafeteria.
That's peak Jets right there
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https://twitter.com/NyjMike/status/1426913529827926020?s=19
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https://twitter.com/NyjMike/status/1426913529827926020?s=19
not sure how cimini was not directly called out in that vid. he was the one that started the trade talk bs
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One of the more interesting things I've seen from last nights pressers is that apparently Mims was the one who specifically asked to go out on special teams? He said that he wanted to prove to the staff that he could contribute there too.
It's still a weird look to have Vyncent Smith getting so many more snaps than Mims did in the first half, I'm guessing that they're rewarding him for a good spring/summer. But it's hard to see a world in which Mims can't do everything that Smith does significantly better.
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It's still a weird look to have Vyncent Smith getting so many more snaps than Mims did in the first half, I'm guessing that they're rewarding him for a good spring/summer. But it's hard to see a world in which Mims can't do everything that Smith does significantly better.
Smith made a play last night that is as good as you can get from a gunner.
I think it's awesome that Mims wants to try to contribute on ST, it shows his dedication to improvement. But he sucks on specials, at least right now. Smith and Berrios don't. So the problem with Mims remains who are you going to give practice snaps to: guys who are definitely going to dress on Sundays because they're already key ST contributors, or the back-up outside receiver who can't make an impact on ST?
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Denzel Mims is X #2 behind Corey Davis
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https://twitter.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1426702223678058496?s=21
Hughes is useless
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I think Beans offers more actual insight than Hughes so I'm fine watching him get frustrated over the fans grilling him on Mims on Twitter.
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Jets coach Robert Saleh said Denzel Mims was made inactive in Week 2 because he doesn't play special teams.
Saleh noted that his team's fifth receiver needs to play special teams to make the active roster. Mims hasn't played a snap of special teams duties since being drafted by the Jets in the second round. Jeff Smith was kept on New York's gameday roster over Mims in Week 2. Mims won't hold any fantasy value this year and could be on the roster bubble heading into the 2022 season.
Pretty much exactly what I thought would happen, except I expected the other Smith.
I don't trust LaFleur. I don't trust his schemes or his personnel decisions. But that doesn't change the fact that Denzel Mims has no role on this team in 2021 while Corey Davis is healthy. I think it would be a mistake, but there's a better than average chance Doug trades Mims before the deadline.
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I think it would be a mistake, but there's a better than average chance Doug trades Mims before the deadline.
Trade him for a right guard today.
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Trade him for a right guard today.
Yeah I'd be all for that. If it's for future picks, I'd rather have the insurance for Davis.
With the exception of our first 1st, there are no draft picks or defensive players I wouldn't move to get rid of Greg van Roten. I hate him. I hate his life.
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Or trade him for a tight end.
The Herndon trade was good value, but we could really use a better safety valve at TE.
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Or trade him for a tight end.
The Herndon trade was good value, but we could really use a better safety valve at TE.
Herndon is worse than Griffin and Kroft
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Trade him for a right guard today.
This is the only way Mims helps more than if he's playing over Berrios.
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This is the only way Mims helps more than if he's playing over Berrios.
Mims can’t play in the slot. Berrios can.
It’s simple.
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Mims can’t play in the slot. Berrios can.
It’s simple.
But Crowder can play the slot. Moore as well. Are they both better than Berrios?
If Berrios is catching passes, then the best players aren't on the field. If Berrios is active and Mims isn't, then the best players aren't even dressed.
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Mims is an unfortunate casualty of regime turnover and the FO building a stronger WR corps. If we were still running Gase's offense (dear god no) or something similar, and/or we didn't bring in Corey Davis then he'd be on the field.
It also didn't help that he was injured for most of last season which stunted his development and sick for the beginning of this pre-season so he wound up behind on his work for the new offense.
If Mims can only play one WR position, he's not the best player to put out there on the field. I want him dressed and I want him playing but I don't want to take Corey Davis out off of the field if we don't need to just to give Mims reps.
Mims will either redshirt this season or he'll get traded for someone who can actually help run LaFleur's offense.
Unless he makes a huge stride in learning how to play Y or Z receiver, he's the low man on the roster and it's exactly because of his talent level.
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The moment we signed Davis, Mims should have been competing to be the Z receiver on the outside opposite Davis. So it's weird that he apparently only knows the routes for X. The missed time due to illness doesn't explain that.
Fant over Moses and Cole over Mims were both weird to me. The former played out the way it should though depthwise when Becton went down.
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The moment we signed Davis, Mims should have been competing to be the Z receiver on the outside opposite Davis. So it's weird that he apparently only knows the routes for X. The missed time due to illness doesn't explain that.
Fant over Moses and Cole over Mims were both weird to me. The former played out the way it should though depthwise when Becton went down.
It's not that weird, Baylor plays a very vertical offense where Mims' experience was mostly at X. It's very possible that Mims just isn't as talented at receiver as we thought he was.
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It's not that weird, Baylor plays a very vertical offense where Mims' experience was mostly at X. It's very possible that Mims just isn't as talented at receiver as we thought he was.
Mims didn't play for Baylor last year
He has a year of NFL experience under his belt in the Loggains offense.
The Davis thing makes sense, but our approach has not.
Corey Davis was signed 9 months ago.
That's plenty of time to figure out what the freak were doing with Mims.
Having him be #6 or #7 isn't a good plan. If that's the case the value was shopping him before the season
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He had 23 receptions for 357 yards and no TDs last year, I'm not sure why people are suddenly all bent out of shape about him not playing.
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It's not that weird, Baylor plays a very vertical offense where Mims' experience was mostly at X. It's very possible that Mims just isn't as talented at receiver as we thought he was.
Unless they come from stacked teams like Bama, most WRs drafted in the first few rounds were the #1 option on their college teams, but most aren't going to be as they enter the NFL, so transitioning from one side to the other isn't exactly an uncommon request. So either the coaching staff has mishandled this or Mims is too stupid to learn a slightly different role. Or I suppose, a third possibility is it clicks for him soon and he plays and contributes.
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He had 23 receptions for 357 yards and no TDs last year, I'm not sure why people are suddenly all bent out of shape about him not playing.
It's not savior complex. It's this dude was a 2nd round pick a year ago who showed flashes.
Having him as an inactive is a notch above cutting him.
If he was dressing as the #5 wideout getting 15 snaps a game you'd probably see 99% of the whining disappear
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We’re getting our derriere beat and feeding Braxton Berrios. Jeff Smith is getting snaps.
There’s no way you can tell me they can’t find a way to use Mims right now, I don’t believe that. Especially with Davis being such a versatile receiver.
Maybe Mims is too 1 dimensional skill set wise, maybe he can’t learn the playbook. Maybe he pissed off the coaching staff.
If this is really a team that is going to finish with a top 5 pick then they need to find a way to play him eventually.
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Mims didn't play last year
FTFY
It's like everyone forgets that he was active for only a very brief period last season. The rest was on IR where he wasn't practicing. I don't know where people think his experience is coming from.
If the coaches are saying that he's not grasping the offense in practice and the beat writers are saying he's not grasping it in practice, maybe he isn't as good as we thought he was.
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FTFY
It's like everyone forgets that he was active for only a very brief period last season. The rest was on IR where he wasn't practicing. I don't know where people think his experience is coming from.
If the coaches are saying that he's not grasping the offense in practice and the beat writers are saying he's not grasping it in practice, maybe he isn't as good as we thought he was.
JetsTwitter thinks we've benched Jerry Rice. It's equal parts hilarious and sad.
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Rookie WRs in NFL history to post 40+ receiving yards in each of their first 6 career games
- Andre Johnson (2003)
- Amari Cooper (2015)
- Stefon Diggs (2015)
- Michael Thomas (2016)
- CeeDee Lamb (2020)
- Denzel Mims (2020)
Mims never played lol
This is with noted bad quarterback Sam Darnold throwing the ball, noted shithead Adam Gase drawing up the schemes, and Jets legend Dowell Loggains choosing to target him 3 times a game in favor of Braxton Berrios and Breshad Perriman
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JetsTwitter thinks we've benched Jerry Rice. It's equal parts hilarious and sad.
I could have sworn this is what you said when Joe Douglas selected him
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JetsTwitter thinks we've benched Jerry Rice. It's equal parts hilarious and sad.
I want him to play. I want our draft picks to succeed and I'm frustrated that he's not making it on the field but honestly if we're actually going to trust the coaching staff then maybe we should believe that they know what they're doing with the WR corps.
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I could have sworn this is what you said when Joe Douglas selected him
You're gonna need to dig pretty deep into the posting archives for something like that.
And even if you did, believe it or not, opinions and situations change.
FTR, i have nothing against Mims....but the CS knows more than any of us, so i'll defer to their decision making.
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I want him to play. I want our draft picks to succeed and I'm frustrated that he's not making it on the field but honestly if we're actually going to trust the coaching staff then maybe we should believe that they know what they're doing with the WR corps.
I'll defer to the CS too. This isn't Adam Gase or Todd Bowles. Until Saleh gives me a reason to not believe in him, i'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
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We’re getting our derriere beat and feeding Braxton Berrios. Jeff Smith is getting snaps.
There’s no way you can tell me they can’t find a way to use Mims right now, I don’t believe that. Especially with Davis being such a versatile receiver.
Maybe Mims is too 1 dimensional skill set wise, maybe he can’t learn the playbook. Maybe he pissed off the coaching staff.
If this is really a team that is going to finish with a top 5 pick then they need to find a way to play him eventually.
Keelan Cole, 15 snaps, 0 targets
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Mims never played lol
This is with noted bad quarterback Sam Darnold throwing the ball, noted shithead Adam Gase drawing up the schemes, and Jets legend Dowell Loggains choosing to target him 3 times a game in favor of Braxton Berrios and Breshad Perriman
Just checked his game log. I remember him missing more games than that.
So we're down to these possibilities:
1. Mims is a future All-pro who the coaching staff is intentionally railroading or too incompetent to recognize.
2. Mims can excel in a limited role but isn't worth taking the team's #1 WR off of the field for and isn't developing in other roles well enough, be it offense or special teams, for the coaching staff to pull another WR off of the active roster to make room for him.
EDIT:
Saleh on Mims:
“Denzel, he had a real good week of work,” Saleh said. “He’s just got to continue on what he did and just understand that there’s special teams involved. There’s the Z, the X and if he can capitalize off what he did this week, I don’t anticipate this being much longer. At the same time, I don’t see Jeff and Keelan and all those guys relenting. They’re every bit as deserving of being on the football field, too.
“He’s got to be better than those guys. That’s the bottom line."
https://nypost.com/2021/09/19/denzel-mims-got-to-be-better-than-other-jets-wrs-to-play-says-coach/ (https://nypost.com/2021/09/19/denzel-mims-got-to-be-better-than-other-jets-wrs-to-play-says-coach/)
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The one thing I would say in defence of Mims is that he's taller than I think any of our receivers bar Davis, and that has value with a rookie QB. Wilson has and will sail balls occasionally, especially with his arm strength, and having receivers who can go up and get it when he does is useful. Of course that does rather depend upon him using his size and height effectively, which brings us back to the beginning.
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FWIW, Mims was my 8th overall WR in 2020. I was not a fan of his route running or scheme versatility.
I think LaFleur stinks so far, but I don't have a problem with who he is playing over Mims.
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Stephen Hill comparisons are starting to ring true.
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I’m fine with making Mims earn his role via practice. He’s sitting for a reason and I don’t expect it to continue forever.
Jeff Smith isn’t going to help us win games or elevate Zach. I get that Special teams exists, but I could honestly care less about a gunner if our offense continues to look like it did in weeks 1 and 2.
I need Berrios to stop getting targets at this rate once Crowder is back.
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Joe D says he sees Mims as a guy that can step in and contribute starting from day 1, he does not feel that there are concerns with his route tree, and that coaches were impressed with his ability to learn after speaking to him
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FWIW, Mims was my 8th overall WR in 2020. I was not a fan of his route running or scheme versatility.
I think LaFleur stinks so far, but I don't have a problem with who he is playing over Mims.
There were 12 receivers taken ahead of him
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Berrios is a poor man's Welker. Everyone seems to hate him, but he keeps playing well.
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*Joe Gase
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Berrios is a poor man's Welker. Everyone seems to hate him, but he keeps playing well.
I’m fine with what he does as a player, but his role has always been way too big for my liking. I’m ok with PR and 5th WR with the same type of routes he runs now.
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I’m fine with what he does as a player, but his role has always been way too big for my liking. I’m ok with PR and 5th WR with the same type of routes he runs now.
If Crowder could stay healthy this wouldn’t be an issue.
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If Crowder could stay healthy this wouldn’t be an issue.
When you look at it like that, he’s pretty solid depth. On a playoff team he could be a great piece, but he can’t keep leading our team in targets.
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Also we need a freaking TE
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There were 12 receivers taken ahead of him
Yet we have a large portion of our fanbase crying about him being inactive
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I really want to see the guy play, but this is such an overreaction by our fanbase.
Berrios is our backup slot and pr/kr
Smith is our starting gunner
The competition is Mims vs Cole.
I don't think its crazy that a vet like Cole, who has been sucessful in this league, is at a higher spot in the depth chart than Mims.
It's really that simple.
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As far as the reps/targets distribution goes, I'd love to know where they had Cole running his routes vs. that Wilson pass distribution map from the game.
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I really want to see the guy play, but this is such an overreaction by our fanbase.
Berrios is our backup slot and pr/kr
Smith is our starting gunner
The competition is Mims vs Cole.
I don't think its crazy that a vet like Cole, who has been sucessful in this league, is at a higher spot in the depth chart than Mims.
It's really that simple.
Agreed. That said, it's obviously not a good sign that Mims hasn't been able to crack the lineup. I view that as an indictment on Mims more than an indictment on the coaching staff though. They've been open about what Mims needs to do to earn playing time. Maybe there's more to it than that, but I don't really think so.
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Berrios is a poor man's Welker. Everyone seems to hate him, but he keeps playing well.
Mrs. Welker (Anna Burns, former Ms. Hooters pageant winner):
https://www.facebook.com/hooters/photos/2005-anna-burnssouthern-belle-anna-burns-from-fayetteville-north-carolina-was-cr/146153971776/
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Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
Jets OC Mike LaFleur on Denzel Mims: “Another great day of practice yesterday and I truly mean that.” Adds that “a lot of factors” go into game-day roster decisions. #Jets
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We’re getting our derriere beat and feeding Braxton Berrios. Jeff Smith is getting snaps.
There’s no way you can tell me they can’t find a way to use Mims right now, I don’t believe that. Especially with Davis being such a versatile receiver.
Maybe Mims is too 1 dimensional skill set wise, maybe he can’t learn the playbook. Maybe he pissed off the coaching staff.
If this is really a team that is going to finish with a top 5 pick then they need to find a way to play him eventually.
AlioTheFool thanks you for this post.
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"A lot of factors"
Like an OC whose precious feelings were hurt when a year-2 WR had the gall to not take his rah-rah pep talk well?
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I'm anti-Mims now for the shits of it I hope Berrios leads our team in receiving this year.
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"A lot of factors"
Like an OC whose precious feelings were hurt when a year-2 WR had the gall to not take his rah-rah pep talk well?
Or maybe Mims just needs to learn the offense?
Thats what the coaches have said about this from the beginning. I dont really have a reason not to believe them.
I do wonder if Davis could play a big slot sometimes and Mims can go outside.
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Or maybe Mims just needs to learn the offense?
Thats what the coaches have said about this from the beginning. I dont really have a reason not to believe them.
Sure, no reason at all.
It's not like it was reported that LaFleur was offended that Mims didn't like his get-em-next-time-tiger speech and suddenly the guy is buried on the depth chart.
I do wonder if Davis could play a big slot sometimes and Mims can go outside.
A coaching staff should get creative and find ways to get the best players on the field? Crazy talk.
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It's been 2 games.
Why is it so hard to believe that Mims doesn't know the offense that well?
I liked Mims coming out of the draft and he was fine last year. That stat about him getting 40 yards in his first few games is cool but mostly irrelevant.
I am a little annoyed he can't get on the field, and I dont want to blindly trust the staff, but I'm not freaking out at the staff.
Maybe the staff isn't lying and they don't think he can play the whole offense yet. Maybe he just isn't that good and he's worse than Moore, Davis, Berrios and Cole. Maybe it took him a while to recover from food poisoning.
All of those make just as much or more sense than him not playing because he hates him.
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AlioTheFool thanks you for this post.
Why do you love Mims so much?
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Praying for Mims this weekend 🙏
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https://youtu.be/TwyE3WJ4AWo (https://youtu.be/TwyE3WJ4AWo)
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I mean even if he can only play X
You just rotate Davis at Z and Crowder at Y
Sorry not sorry , if you want to make him learn everything before he plays everything. Fine
But 0 excuse for 1 snap in 2 games
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I mean even if he can only play X
You just rotate Davis at Z and Crowder at Y
Sorry not sorry , if you want to make him learn everything before he plays everything. Fine
But 0 excuse for 1 snap in 2 games
Crowder is likely out again.
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Mims GTD
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Getting things done?
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Jets head coach Robert Saleh said WR Denzel Mims will be a game-time call for Week 3.
Mims isn't injured and reportedly had a good week of practice. Having fallen behind Keelan Cole and Braxton Berrios in the team's wideout pecking order, Mims' lack of special teams usage could keep him inactive for much of the 2021 season. It's a remarkable fall for a second-round wideout who flashed as a rookie, catching 23 passes for 357 yards (15.5 yards per catch) in eight starts.
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Jets twitter will ne a lot of fun if Mims is a healthy scratch and Cole winds up with zero catches again.
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Jets twitter will ne a lot of fun if Mims is a healthy scratch and Cole winds up with zero catches again.
It doesn't matter, there will always be something to bitch about.
BTW, Berrios will lead the team in receiving again. Book it.
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It doesn't matter, there will always be something to bitch about.
BTW, Berrios will lead the team in receiving again. Book it.
I meant I’m going to laugh at it.
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Getting things done?
Going to die
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I mean even if he can only play X
You just rotate Davis at Z and Crowder at Y
Sorry not sorry , if you want to make him learn everything before he plays everything. Fine
But 0 excuse for 1 snap in 2 games
Exactly this. Maybe the staff Mims to learn more of the playbook to get on the field - if I give them maximum benefit of the doubt - but Jyff Smyth is getting playing time over him. LaFleur is perhaps too attached to specific scheme fits. Maybe if this was a team with talent/depth on par with SF that'd be justifiable... but we're not even close.
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https://youtu.be/TwyE3WJ4AWo (https://youtu.be/TwyE3WJ4AWo)
elite reference
immaculate works cited
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https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1441800248167317506?s=19
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https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1441800248167317506?s=19
/trade shitposting
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Inactive again. Not really surprised at all.
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I’m more concerned about Perine being inactive again
Josh Adams SZN
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It does look bad when you say Mims is dominating at practice, and then the Jets get shut out with Mims inactive.
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It does look bad when you say Mims is dominating at practice, and then the Jets get shut out with Mims inactive.
This is migated by the excessively optimistic nonsense coming out of Saleh non stop.
Ie how Wilson had his best practice ever
Or how amazing this whole team looks at practice.
I get it it, you gotta keep excrement positive during what will be a painful miserable season.
But also means you can't buy anything he says
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This is migated by the excessively optimistic nonsense coming out of Saleh non stop.
Ie how Wilson had his best practice ever
Or how amazing this whole team looks at practice.
I get it it, you gotta keep excrement positive during what will be a painful miserable season.
But also means you can't buy anything he says
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Migate
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Jets longest play from scrimmage through three games is 40 yards, which came on Denzel Mims only rep of the season
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Why do you love Mims so much?
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Why do you love Mims so much?
You didn’t answer my question
What is so great about Mims?
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You didn’t answer my question
What is so great about Mims?
"Douglas lucked into Mims"
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"Douglas lucked into Mims"
He nonchalanted into Ashtyn Davis
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He caught a garbage time pass for 40 yards on a busted coverage
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He caught a garbage time pass for 40 yards on a busted coverage
Goat.
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He caught a garbage time pass for 40 yards on a busted coverage
Best home grown receiver since Jeremy Kerley.
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Best home grown receiver since Jeremy Kerley.
Quincy Enunwa and Robby Anderson make you a liar. I don't have a particularly strong feeling about Mims one way or the other, but he hasn't really done anything yet.
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You didn’t answer my question
What is so great about Mims?
What's so great about any of the Jets receivers?
I want to see what a high draft pick can do. He looked okay last year when he finally played.
If we buy into the idea that all the guys who aren't scratched on game day are outplaying him, why haven't the Jets just cut him at this point, because he must be absolute garbage.
What is Corey Davis doing that's so impressive? You can make the ST argument for Berrios and Smith. Davis has been a liability and only plays one position. I just saw Keelan Cole's picture on the back of a milk carton.
Why not give Mims an opportunity? Can it really be any worse? It's not that I'm in love with Mims. I have no clue what he can do. Neither does anyone else. But we've seen what the guys who are supposedly better than him are doing. But they didn't hurt LaFleur's feelings, so...
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What I will say about Mims is that he's 6'3 210, ran a 4.38, and thus far appears to have good hands. Those are elite measurables and yet he went 59th overall, the 13th receiver taken in his draft, and now he's not making the gameday roster for a bad team. So there's definitely something that a lot of people don't like about him, and it definitely isn't anything physical.
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What I will say about Mims is that he's 6'3 210, ran a 4.38, and thus far appears to have good hands. Those are elite measurables and yet he went 59th overall, the 13th receiver taken in his draft, and now he's not making the gameday roster for a bad team. So there's definitely something that a lot of people don't like about him, and it definitely isn't anything physical.
JE= Raiderjoe with Spellcheck.
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What I will say about Mims is that he's 6'3 210, ran a 4.38, and thus far appears to have good hands. Those are elite measurables and yet he went 59th overall, the 13th receiver taken in his draft, and now he's not making the gameday roster for a bad team. So there's definitely something that a lot of people don't like about him, and it definitely isn't anything physical.
The excuse they keep saying is he isn't learning the playback. Saleh inferred today that the priority is developing Zach and they want receivers he can trust.
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The excuse they keep saying is he isn't learning the playback. Saleh inferred today that the priority is developing Zach and they want receivers he can trust.
My personal hypothesis
Is with Crowder out, they value versatility more. Since Crowder is a very versatile dude and Mims is not, so they don't desire to use a roster spot on him.
Once Crowder returns, Mims will probably start being active.
I mean why else was Mims a game time decision in Denver? It's not like Berrios or Smith were questionable to the best of my knowledge.
I'm a little sleep deprived so I can't think it throguh too well, but I do think Crowders health is one of the major factors in Mims being active
As to why Mims was active and didn't play week 1? I have no freaking idea, I'll just assume he straight up didn't know the play book well enough, and the Crowder thing
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My personal hypothesis
Is with Crowder out, they value versatility more. Since Crowder is a very versatile dude and Mims is not, so they don't desire to use a roster spot on him.
Once Crowder returns, Mims will probably start being active.
I mean why else was Mims a game time decision in Denver? It's not like Berrios or Smith were questionable to the best of my knowledge.
I'm a little sleep deprived so I can't think it throguh too well, but I do think Crowders health is one of the major factors in Mims being active
As to why Mims was active and didn't play week 1? I have no freaking idea, I'll just assume he straight up didn't know the play book well enough, and the Crowder thing
I don't really see how that makes sense. So when Crowder comes back, Mims also comes back? Seems to me when Crowder comes back, Mims gets buried slightly more. Crowder returning might mean Berrios is inactive if they trust someone else at punt returner.
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If the coaching staff thinks a 2nd rd pick isn't good enough to make the active roster then so be it. It's a whiff by JD
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If the coaching staff thinks a 2nd rd pick isn't good enough to make the active roster then so be it. It's a whiff by JD
Mims was drafted under a different coaching regime.
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Mims was drafted under a different coaching regime.
Gase didn't draft him....JD did
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Gase didn't draft him....JD did
lol
you know the coaches have input in who gets drafted, right? JD has final decision...but he's going to take the coach's scheme into consideration.
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I'd honestly love to know what exactly he's freaking up in practice.
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I'd honestly love to know what exactly he's freaking up in practice.
Wearing his cup on his face and doing a Bane impression
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I don't really see how that makes sense. So when Crowder comes back, Mims also comes back? Seems to me when Crowder comes back, Mims gets buried slightly more. Crowder returning might mean Berrios is inactive if they trust someone else at punt returner.
I don't know.
It's the only thing that makes any sense to me though. That there's some permutation of wideout/special teams depth that just doesn't work out for Mims if Crowder isn't healthy.
Mims being a game-time decision honestly just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me otherwise.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1442894701661618179
Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
Third-and-6 vs Denver: An odd clump of 3 receivers in the middle. Top to bottom: Berrios, Davis and Kroft. Someone had to run the wrong route. And they’re not playing Mims because he’s still learning all 3 WR spots? Btw, Wilson was sacked for a loss of 14. #jets
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1442894701661618179
Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
Third-and-6 vs Denver: An odd clump of 3 receivers in the middle. Top to bottom: Berrios, Davis and Kroft. Someone had to run the wrong route. And they’re not playing Mims because he’s still learning all 3 WR spots? Btw, Wilson was sacked for a loss of 14. #jets
Does anyone else want to post this freaking play?
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Does anyone else want to post this freaking play?
It was a play called Levels, it's designed for beating Cover 2 but the Jets failed to read the disguised coverage and then didn't execute it properly anyway.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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It was a play called Levels, it's designed for beating Cover 2 but the Jets failed to read the disguised coverage and then didn't execute it properly anyway.
Let me know if you have any questions.
I always liked Levels as a playcall in Madden when I used to play it.
R.I.P. Avicii.
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It was a play called Levels, it's designed for beating Cover 2 but the Jets failed to read the disguised coverage and then didn't execute it properly anyway.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Any chance of us bringing Tom Moore back to teach Lefleur?
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Any chance of us bringing Tom Moore back to teach Lefleur?
Somehow he is a) still alive and b) still working, but I very much doubt that he wants to leave his cushy job with the Buccs to come back to this dumpster fire.
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https://twitter.com/richcimini/status/1443189424301481985?s=21
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We haven't scored a TD in two games and Davis' hands haven't been automatic. Part of me wants to see the CS try to shake up the personnel to see if something helps Zach, the other part wants the CS to do whatever will get the Jets Fan Twitter participants as angry as possible.
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I love the 1 dimensional label on Mims. We had a similar 1 dimensional player that left because of a mistake in player evaluation. There's no way in hell that a similar mistake is being made here......nope
<insert Douglas/Saleh/Lafleur rooster into mouth>
There should be skepticism in Mims not playing. When any of the offensive coaches show an iota of competence then maybe I would give them a pass here. But freak them
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I love the 1 dimensional label on Mims. We had a similar 1 dimensional player that left because of a mistake in player evaluation. There's no way in hell that a similar mistake is being made here......nope
Talking about Robby?
Agreed on the offensive coaching staff. Just putting the same offense out there every game without trying to adjust at all. It's just like last season.
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Talking about Robby?
Agreed on the offensive coaching staff. Just putting the same offense out there every game without trying to adjust at all. It's just like last season.
Yep 100% Robby. Meaning let the guy play, go over the top and do what he does best learn as he goes. If he only does that one thing in his career who cares? there's no one on the roster that can do it regardless. I know the game is more complex nowadays but still this offense stinks get some kind of excitement/threat going.
Your 2nd point, the NFL defenses figure out quickly how to counteract an offense that is actually good, they must be licking their chops watching this mess on film.
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I'm not sure there's a lot of point using Mims or anyone else to solely run go routes, given the line can't keep Zach clean long enough for even the fastest burner to get any separation. We need to get the ball out of Zach's hands quicker, not give him more slow developing plays to get smoked on.
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I'm not sure there's a lot of point using Mims or anyone else to solely run go routes, given the line can't keep Zach clean long enough for even the fastest burner to get any separation. We need to get the ball out of Zach's hands quicker, not give him more slow developing plays to get smoked on.
Opens other avenue if they have to protect against a legitimate threat. He doesn't have to run go routes exclusively he can stop and go and other things to at least have a modicum of a threat.
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I'm not sure there's a lot of point using Mims or anyone else to solely run go routes, given the line can't keep Zach clean long enough for even the fastest burner to get any separation. We need to get the ball out of Zach's hands quicker, not give him more slow developing plays to get smoked on.
There's no point keeping him inactive unless they actually believe it's for his own good, because it's impossible for his presence on the field to actually hurt our offense.
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There's no point keeping him inactive unless they actually believe it's for his own good, because it's impossible for his presence on the field to actually hurt our offense.
This has been my point all along. The idea that Mims would hurt our offense right now is a joke.
Also I could give a excrement about whatever it is Jeff Smith does because he’s sure as hell not helping us score points
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There's no point keeping him inactive unless they actually believe it's for his own good, because it's impossible for his presence on the field to actually hurt our offense.
I'm not arguing he should be inactive, I'm saying that activating him to run go routes that will never be thrown is a bit pointless. If we're going to use him then let's use him to do something to help Zach.
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I'm not arguing he should be inactive, I'm saying that activating him to run go routes that will never be thrown is a bit pointless. If we're going to use him then let's use him to do something to help Zach.
But is it more pointless than not playing at all?
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There's no point keeping him inactive unless they actually believe it's for his own good, because it's impossible for his presence on the field to actually hurt our offense.
Not sure this is actually true. Yes, in terms of points scored, it's almost impossible to be worse. But the way Saleh made it seem, they don't trust Mims to run the right routes or be at the right place at the right time. If that's the case, that could make Wilson look even worse.
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But is it more pointless than not playing at all?
If the alternative is having a player active who is capable of running routes that will help Zach, then yes.
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https://twitter.com/DWAZ73/status/1443250116098408467
RIP Mims
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Don't get me wrong, I liked the Mims pick and I'm disappointed he's not on the field. I want him to play, too. But the reasoning makes sense to me, and I'm giving the staff the benefit of the doubt, even if that faith is starting to erode.
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freak if I know.
Throw 6 WRs out there and just 3 OL. Wilson is gonna be running for his life anyway, might as well give him more options to hail mary to.
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Rich Cimini
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WR Jeff Smith was involved in a car accident on the way to the facility this morning and didn't practice. But he's in the building and is OK, source says, but could show up on the injury report. #Jets
MIMZ to Active?
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Rich Cimini
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WR Jeff Smith was involved in a car accident on the way to the facility this morning and didn't practice. But he's in the building and is OK, source says, but could show up on the injury report. #Jets
MIMZ to Active?
It would be hilarious if Mims and Jeff Smith are inactive.
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Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
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WR Jeff Smith was involved in a car accident on the way to the facility this morning and didn't practice. But he's in the building and is OK, source says, but could show up on the injury report. #Jets
MIMZ to Active?
Mims drove the car that hit Jeff Smith
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If the alternative is having a player active who is capable of running routes that will help Zach, then yes.
3 games in and we haven't seen this yet.
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Mims drove the car that hit Jeff Smith
He put that dead deer in the road to make them swerve.
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He put that dead deer in the road to make them swerve.
He's too dumb to run a route properly what makes you think he has the foresight to put a deer in the road?
Sorry I have to call false news on this. Stop spreading rumors.
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Not sure this is actually true. Yes, in terms of points scored, it's almost impossible to be worse. But the way Saleh made it seem, they don't trust Mims to run the right routes or be at the right place at the right time. If that's the case, that could make Wilson look even worse.
From my untrained eye, it seems like pass-catchers running the wrong route wasn't an uncommon occurrence last week and so far this season.
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From my untrained eye, it seems like pass-catchers running the wrong route wasn't an uncommon occurrence last week and so far this season.
Maybe our coaches aren’t good enough for Mims not the other way around
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Brian Costello
@BrianCoz
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Denzel Mims will be active this week, Saleh said.
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Brian Costello
@BrianCoz
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11m
Denzel Mims will be active this week, Saleh said.
Thank God, maybe people can STFU now when he gets 1 catch for 7 yards.
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LETS GOOOOOOOO
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Thank God, maybe people can STFU now when he gets 1 catch for 7 yards.
Honestly I think we’ve had at least 5 WRs catch passes in each game this season. I’d say it’s likely he gets a grab or two just based on that
Week 1
Davis
Mims
Moore
Berrios
Smith
Week 2
Davis
Moore
Berrios
Smith
Cole
Week 3
Davis
Moore
Berrios
Smith
Cole
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Brian Costello
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Denzel Mims will be active this week, Saleh said.
WE'RE GOING TO RICKS
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I have a bag of singles............make it rain
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WE'RE GOING TO RICKS
Call Tommy.
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Can he block?
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0 catches for 0 yards yesterday. I have no idea if he was targeted at any point.
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0 catches for 0 yards yesterday. I have no idea if he was targeted at any point.
No registered targets from what I've seen. What I don't know is if he even had any snaps.
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No registered targets from what I've seen. What I don't know is if he even had any snaps.
10
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10
Did he play all the positions?
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Did he play all the positions?
1 snap at each position besides QB.
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0 catches for 0 yards yesterday. I have no idea if he was targeted at any point.
0 for 0 and a Jets win
I’ll let you smart guys do the analysis
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Breaking:
https://twitter.com/DWAZ73/status/1445829883741884421?t=2J42TAKPnPIDUG70P1XNQA&s=19
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Breaking:
https://twitter.com/DWAZ73/status/1445829883741884421?t=2J42TAKPnPIDUG70P1XNQA&s=19
Jesus Christ Denzel, stop eating fish out of the trash.
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Jesus Christ Denzel, stop eating derriere.
fyp
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All seems like a giant conspiracy to keep Mims off the field. LaFleur probably poisoned him.
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Maybe he ate bad fish again on purpose so he could try and get traded while avoiding possibly injury in all those plays where he goes in to run block.
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All seems like a giant conspiracy to keep Mims off the field. LaFleur probably poisoned him.
Mike "Littlefinger" LaFleur
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Maybe he ate bad fish again on purpose so he could try and get traded while avoiding possibly injury in all those plays where he goes in to run block.
Does he have the same agent as Maye? If so, this is plausible.
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Does he have the same agent as Maye? If so, this is plausible.
He's going to have to up his DUI count.
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We really should just trade him for a right guard
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We really should just trade him for a right guard
Or a tight end. Seems like an obvious move, but teams probably don't want to trade offensive line depth.
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Wouldn't get much in a trade.
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1446201945652408324?t=HpkGVgZGRBZUmNs2Gk_-SQ&s=19
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Play Like A Jet
@Playlikeajet1
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Bart Scott on
@SNYtv
says he believes Mekhi Becton's "FREE MIMS" tweet spoke for a lot of the players in the lockerroom. #Jets
Lost the lockerroom already
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WHAT DOES BECTON KNOW?! Play Jeff Smith and Braxton Berrios over Mims!
LaFleur sucks.
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https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1454909810521038848?s=21
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Denzel Mims led #Jets WRs with 59 snaps (70%)
WRs:
Mims: 59 (70%)
Cole: 55 (65%)
Crowder: 51 (61%)
Moore: 30 (36%)
Berrios: 20 (24%)
Smith: 20 (24%)
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Denzel Mims led #Jets WRs with 59 snaps (70%)
WRs:
Mims: 59 (70%)
Cole: 55 (65%)
Crowder: 51 (61%)
Moore: 30 (36%)
Berrios: 20 (24%)
Smith: 20 (24%)
Makes sense, given everything said about him being Corey Davis's backup. I'm interested to rewatch for his downfield blocking and route-running, I'm hoping he contributed in ways that didn't show up on the statsheet as much.
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Makes sense, given everything said about him being Corey Davis's backup. I'm interested to rewatch for his downfield blocking and route-running, I'm hoping he contributed in ways that didn't show up on the statsheet as much.
Would have contributed more if he could have gotten his hands on that one pass in the end zone.
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Brian Costello
@BrianCoz
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Hearing the Jets have received trade calls about WR Denzel Mims but the answer from the Jets has been a consistent “No.”
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Update: Has COVID, is vaccinated.
https://twitter.com/richcimini/status/1458192616932134914?s=21 (https://twitter.com/richcimini/status/1458192616932134914?s=21)
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Update: Has COVID, is vaccinated.
https://twitter.com/richcimini/status/1458192616932134914?s=21 (https://twitter.com/richcimini/status/1458192616932134914?s=21)
https://twitter.com/Mang_Island/status/1458192752257249280 (https://twitter.com/Mang_Island/status/1458192752257249280)
Savage
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https://twitter.com/Mang_Island/status/1458192752257249280 (https://twitter.com/Mang_Island/status/1458192752257249280)
Savage
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A rare made with Mematic and iFunny watermark on the same meme.
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https://twitter.com/Mang_Island/status/1458192752257249280 (https://twitter.com/Mang_Island/status/1458192752257249280)
Savage
Except that my recollection, based on no stats, is that he's caught pretty much everything thrown his way this season and the main criticism is that he hasn't actually been targeted.
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Except that my recollection, based on no stats, is that he's caught pretty much everything thrown his way this season and the main criticism is that he hasn't actually been targeted.
Your recollection is wrong.
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Except that my recollection, based on no stats, is that he's caught pretty much everything thrown his way this season and the main criticism is that he hasn't actually been targeted.
Except that TD he dropped in the end zone.
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Except that my recollection, based on no stats, is that he's caught pretty much everything thrown his way this season and the main criticism is that he hasn't actually been targeted.
it's not that often but there have been a couple of times this season where he's burned himself by trying to let the ball come into body as opposed to going out and grabbing it with his hands. im pretty sure there was one moment this season where he did this and the ball literally bounced off his body
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Except that TD he dropped in the end zone.
And two more drops against Indy. That's 3 catches and 3 drops since cracking the starting line-up due to Corey Davis' injury.
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Yeah but still
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Your recollection is wrong.
This
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Yeah but still
You were at the pub
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Yeah but still
I didn't think of that aspect. Excellent point.
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👀
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If Mims is ever going to become a meaningful contributor for this team, now would be the time.
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I think the Mims watch can be covered by Ray Charles.
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Robert Saleh commented on Mims' back-to-back penalties in the post-game presser but he also continued to speak glowingly about Mims and it seemed genuine and not some kiss of death or him blowing smoke. Jets today officially eliminated from the playoff - year 11.
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if it wasn't obvious before the game, it's completely clear now the staff keeps giving this kid chance after chance to do something and he either does nothing with it or does dumb things to hurt the team.
speaking 'glowingly' of a struggling/bust 2nd round pick is the very base thing you have to do in a situation like this, but it's at least kind of the staff to continue propping him up to the media. i don't have any confidence in mims making something of his time with the jets based off of his own innate ability/work ethic, so hopefully the staff continues to try and figure out what they can do to get the most out of him/make him succeed.
forgetting that he's a 2nd round pick, he does nothing on the field to warrant continued playing time, so will be interesting to see what happens from here moving forward. they'll either try to salvage him by trying to find him moments of playing time, or they'll bench him like they did today
corey davis and elijah moore were out and the staff felt more comfortable with throwing dj montgomery (who?) out there than they did with mims. not good
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the tl;dr to the post above is that denzel mims fvckin sucks
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It's just confusing how he can look so promising last year and like such excrement this year.
Chances are he'll go to a team like the chargers who throw bombs deep and play well.
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It's just confusing how he can look so promising last year and like such excrement this year.
Chances are he'll go to a team like the chargers who throw bombs deep and play well.
Or he’ll just end up sucking like Stephen Hill
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It's just confusing how he can look so promising last year and like such excrement this year.
Chances are he'll go to a team like the chargers who throw bombs deep and play well.
He showed some flashes, but I think some fans seriously overrated just how much he flashed. There was some cherry-picked stat about rookies with 40 yards in their first couple games which put him in great company and got people irrationally excited.
He made some plays as a rookie. So did Stephen Hill. Mims has had a disastrous year 2.
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Worse than Stephen Hill
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Worse than Stephen Hill
God I hate how true this is.
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I'm disgusted I ever took this dude's side.
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I'm disgusted I ever took this dude's side.
excrement happens. No reason in believing in a 2nd-round pick until they prove they can't. He showed some flashes last year. Not as much as some people claimed (the "40 yards in first X games stat" was always kind of ridiculous), but he has been awful this year.
My guess is he gets a chance with a full training camp where he is hopefully healthy next year, but he's nowhere near guaranteed a roster spot. Or we trade him for some other team's disappointing draft pick.
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I'm disgusted I ever took this dude's side.
He deserved the benefit of the doubt until recently.
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In Saleh's presser today, when asked about Mims sucking, he said something to the effect that the first real break college players get is after their pro rookie season. Then you've got guys with a fistful of cash they've never had before and a whole lot of free time, and they just don't understand yet that being a professional athlete is a full-year job.
He was speaking about Mims and added his usual "I'm not saying that's the case with him" addendum, but I think he was also speaking about Mekhi Becton to some degree.
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, but I think he was also speaking about Mekhi Becton to some degree.
And people thought I was crazy about becton. That dude posts more on ig than any professional athlete should. He also is always flexible g about purchases.
It doesn't mean players can't do both, it just looks like a lack of focus and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being a bust.
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And people thought I was crazy about becton. That dude posts more on ig than any professional athlete should. He also is always flexible g about purchases.
It doesn't mean players can't do both, it just looks like a lack of focus and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being a bust.
Jfc
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And people thought I was crazy about becton. That dude posts more on ig than any professional athlete should. He also is always flexible g about purchases.
It doesn't mean players can't do both, it just looks like a lack of focus and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being a bust.
Did you just claim Becton will never be a good football player because of his social media activity while out for the season due to injury?
It really is amazing how much an injury changes peoples perception of a player
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User name checks out.
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Did you just claim Becton will never be a good football player because of his social media activity while out for the season due to injury?
It really is amazing how much an injury changes peoples perception of a player
Yes. And I'll stick to it.
Social media is a time suck and this dude posts more than any athlete I've ever seen.
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Follows athletes on social media, gets mad when athletes post on social media.
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Follows athletes on social media, gets mad when athletes post on social media.
I get people following beat writers and excrement for the latest news and updates.
But serious question.
Who the freak says oh yeah I want to follow a 400 pound dude on Instagram and look at his pictures?
I'll concede I'm a dinosaur in general with this excrement so I'm legitimately curious.
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I get people following beat writers and excrement for the latest news and updates.
But serious question.
Who the freak says oh yeah I want to follow a 400 pound dude on Instagram and look at his pictures?
I'll concede I'm a dinosaur in general with this excrement so I'm legitimately curious.
I followed him after a few people were posting a bunch of links to his ig. I thought the posts were funny so I gave him a follow. Everytime I look at my stories he's number one and has 20+ posts a day.
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I followed him after a few people were posting a bunch of links to his ig. I thought the posts were funny so I gave him a follow. Everytime I look at my stories he's number one and has 20+ posts a day.
Maybe he could be one of those people who takes a picture of every damn thing he eats. So at least we can know why he's 400 pounds
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I followed him after a few people were posting a bunch of links to his ig. I thought the posts were funny so I gave him a follow. Everytime I look at my stories he's number one and has 20+ posts a day.
Does he post more or less than Lisa Wilson?
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Maybe he could be one of those people who takes a picture of every damn thing he eats. So at least we can know why he's 400 pounds
Lol. I know it's a stretch, but I just have this feeling. All he does is flex on things he purchases and posts memes. He never posts anything related to the jets like his teammates. We know he did not look good at the start of this year and this recovery is taking twice as long as expected.
Consider me doubtful of his commitment
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Lol. I know it's a stretch, but I just have this feeling. All he does is flex on things he purchases and posts memes. He never posts anything related to the jets like his teammates. We know he did not look good at the start of this year and this recovery is taking twice as long as expected.
Consider me doubtful of his commitment
As I said, amazing how a season ending injury makes people forget how good an athlete you are.
Becton was a pretty amazing LT (for a rookie) last year. Now with this injury he may not ever be the same guy only time will tell, but deciding the guy can’t play football or isn’t committed to being a professional athlete because he got hurt boggles my freaking mind.
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He probably gets paid to promote those purchases.
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As I said, amazing how a season ending injury makes people forget how good an athlete you are.
Becton was a pretty amazing LT (for a rookie) last year. Now with this injury he may not ever be the same guy only time will tell, but deciding the guy can’t play football or isn’t committed to being a professional athlete because he got hurt boggles my freaking mind.
Becton always had weight concerns (I think any nfl player close to 400 pounds get associated with that) so his "commitment" isn't a new concern. Hell there's talk about him being overweight and letting himself go as a rookie.
Then there was concerns about his weight during the offseason. And now he got shutdown for the year from an injury we were told he might return from in October.
Nome or this means Becton is lazy or a degenerate. But it's a trend worth following and remembering when it comes time for a new contract
If he plays well next year nobody will give a freak or remember any of this excrement. If he doesn't, then it's going to be amplified and he might join previous jets legends with the sloppy fat moniker
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As I said, amazing how a season ending injury makes people forget how good an athlete you are.
Becton was a pretty amazing LT (for a rookie) last year. Now with this injury he may not ever be the same guy only time will tell, but deciding the guy can’t play football or isn’t committed to being a professional athlete because he got hurt boggles my freaking mind.
He was not good in the prrseason
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He probably gets paid to promote those purchases.
He wasn't.
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He was not good in the prrseason
Was he posting on Instagram in the preseason? Can we get an in-depth study of the quantity and subject of Becton instagram posts since we drafted him?
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Was he posting on Instagram in the preseason? Can we get an in-depth study of the quantity and subject of Becton instagram posts since we drafted him?
Get me Michael Narnia
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Get me Michael Narnia
On 64% of his pictures, Mekhi uses filters. Is he a bust? Absolutely not. He's the greatest tackle of all-time. Just look at the numbers.
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Per Dick Cimini's recent podcast.
In the last two years there have been 109 WR that have run 350+ pass routes...only one of them hasn't scored a TD.
Guess Who?
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Per Dick Cimini's recent podcast.
In the last two years there have been 109 WR that have run 350+ pass routes...only one of them hasn't scored a TD.
Guess Who?
the 2nd round bust curse continues
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Per Dick Cimini's recent podcast.
In the last two years there have been 109 WR that have run 350+ pass routes...only one of them hasn't scored a TD.
Guess Who?
How many has he dropped? He dropped at least one this season
He’s as good as gone in the off-season.
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How many has he dropped? He dropped at least one this season
He’s as good as gone in the off-season.
there has been at least 2 moments this year where he was in the endzone and an attempted ball thrown to him has hit him in hands without him even attempting to make the catch lmao, one of those being the 'stepped out of bounds anyways' play from this past week
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How many has he dropped? He dropped at least one this season
He’s as good as gone in the off-season.
I’m sure everyone is wishing we had taken the trade compensation offered to us for him around cutdown day and again at the deadline. You have to believe a team would have paid us much better for him then than they will in March.
Good news I guess is we can probably get back into the 6th or 7th round for him
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Good news I guess is we can probably get back into the 6th or 7th round for him
That's awful news because it means we spent a second rounder on another excrement player. We should try to move him for a backup offensive lineman or safety in the offseason.
He's at best a WR5 for us next year. Move him for depth at another position.
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I may have been wrong about Jachai Polite, but I was spot on with this dude.
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given the lack of a feasibly decent return at this point, i don't see us being able to trade him. if we don't cut him outright he may make it through the offseason and to preseason with us, but if nobodies like dj montgomery are still getting reps over him at that point, he'd get cut prior to the season starting
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given the lack of a feasibly decent return at this point, i don't see us being able to trade him. if we don't cut him outright he may make it through the offseason and to preseason with us, but if nobodies like dj montgomery are still getting reps over him at that point, he'd get cut prior to the season starting
I don't think we'll get anything notable for him
But the guys got enough talent that someone will give up a late round flier
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I really think we held onto him at the trade deadline because we were more worried about injuries than confident that he'd actually develop into something.
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I still believe in Mims, he just needs Sam to take the next step
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DNP
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DNP
If it wasn't clear before, it is now. He is done here.
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DNP
Shouldve tossed his shoulder pads on the turf and his gloves into the stands
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Shouldve tossed his shoulder pads on the turf and his gloves into the stands
DenzLOL Mims would never... he doesn't know the playbook well enough to know where the stands are.
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"Mims attempts to remove pads....gets stuck on his neck, paramedics have to save him from choking. News at 11."
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https://twitter.com/Djbienaime/status/1499085256833617922?t=QtVdxxDZxF9vzfrp00kuNw&s=19
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https://twitter.com/Djbienaime/status/1499085256833617922?t=QtVdxxDZxF9vzfrp00kuNw&s=19
Narrator: it had.
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ESPN's Rich Cimini reports that Jets WR Denzel Mims "isn't a lock" to be on the team in September.
The Jets brought back Braxton Berrios and have effectively blocked Mims from their three-wide sets barring injury, meaning his roster battle could be uphill as he doesn't contribute on special teams. Mims made just three catches in his three starts last year. He isn't a factor in standard fantasy leagues, and whatever dynasty value he has diminishes by the day.
Yeah no excrement Rich
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Yeah no excrement Rich
Why in the universe is Mims on any fantasy radars. They might as well be talking about Jeff Smith and Tariq Black for that matter.
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Slow news day.
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Thinking about becoming a Denzel Mims guy this off-season. #istillbelieve
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Thinking about becoming a Denzel Mims guy this off-season. #istillbelieve
I'm there with you. Assuming he doesn't eat the wrong fish again and assuming he doesn't get beat out by a UDFA, I think he has a good shot to make the roster despite offering nothing on special teams. I don't think anyone is offering us anything of value in trade for him, and he's one Corey Davis injury from having a shot at a significant role. We don't have a ton of depth at WR. We have 4 important WRs, Mims and JAGs. Most teams keep 6.
Don't get me wrong, I think he stays buried and collects maybe 200 yards this season, but that's better than last year. I think we are running the ball a lot more this year.
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I hope one of these random UDFA receivers pushes him. If any of them can play gunner, he should lose his roster spot to them.
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i think he's done here because he doesn't play special teams
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i think he's done here because he doesn't play special teams
We have enough depth at defensive back where it might not matter, but who does he backup in the offense?
LaFleur played Jeff Smith over Mims when Davis got hurt. Embarrassing.
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I feel like saying your a "Mims person" is an open request to be bullied at this point.
I just flat out don't care about this dude right now. If he makes the roster: OK; if he gets cut: OK.
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We have enough depth at defensive back where it might not matter, but who does he backup in the offense?
LaFleur played Jeff Smith over Mims when Davis got hurt. Embarrassing.
Only hope I have is that he was really set back more than anyone knew by that food poisoning. Apparently he lost a excrement-ton of weight. Probably not, but I'm pulling for the guy. He is a hell of an athlete.
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I feel like saying your a "Mims person" is an open request to be bullied at this point.
I just flat out don't care about this dude right now. If he makes the roster: OK; if he gets cut: OK.
I'M BEING CANCELLED FOR MY BELIEFS
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Douglas has brought up Mims a couple times as being in "phenomenal shape" and working hard.
Right now, Mims and Smith are battling for our 5th receiver spot, and it's not crazy we keep six.
Hard to be optimistic on Mims after last season, but he's still 24 and has the size/speed combo you like, especially when Moore, Berrios and Wilson are all smaller receivers.
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We should trade him
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We should trade him
I think I'd rather give him another year than get a 5th or 6th rounder for him. At least there's a chance that he was sick all last year. I mean, he probably just sucks, but he's worth giving another shot.
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Don't see the point in trading him unless you really don't think he fits here, or you're convinced you're going to cut him.
He doesn't have value right now, so you're trading him for another team's version of Mims. And WR5 is wide open on this roster right now. It's not like we have 6 guys ahead of him. He has a clear path to make the roster if he takes a step forward.
If we drafted two receivers like some thought we would/should, then yeah, trade him. But unless we make a significant veteran addition, I don't see the point unless the Jets are just done with him.
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I think I'd rather give him another year than get a 5th or 6th rounder for him. At least there's a chance that he was sick all last year. I mean, he probably just sucks, but he's worth giving another shot.
Trade him for a player at LB or S
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Douglas supposedly blocked a trade for him last season before the deadline. I have to believe the CS thinks there's something there for him in the system. If he doesn't show it by the end of TC I don't see any reason to keep him on the roster.
If he can help us land a player at LB or Safety or another position of need that we would otherwise have to fight for in FA then I would not be upset.
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Still available:
1. Odell Beckham Jr., Los Angeles Rams
2. Julio Jones, Tennessee Titans
3. Emmanuel Sanders, Buffalo Bills
4. Jarvis Landry, Cleveland Browns
5. Cole Beasley, Buffalo Bills
6. Will Fuller, Miami Dolphins
7. John Ross, New York Giants
8. Albert Wilson, Miami Dolphins
9. Keelan Cole, New York Jets
10. Adam Humphries, Washington Commanders
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I think I'd rather give him another year than get a 5th or 6th rounder for him. At least there's a chance that he was sick all last year. I mean, he probably just sucks, but he's worth giving another shot.
I think the problem is he doesn't do special teams.
If Mims was a #5 or #6 and played special teams great.
But I don't think they'll save a roster spot for a guy who can't do anything
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https://twitter.com/CWilliamsNFL/status/1521815675970465792
More Mims hype.
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Zelly Comeback SZN?
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3rd-year receiver breakouts used to be a thing. He had excuses for his performance last year. It would be nice if he could play a role. We don't really have that size/speed deep threat that he can provide.
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DJ doing his best to rehab Mims's value so Joe D can get that conditional 6th YLTSI!
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https://twitter.com/schultz_report/status/1523744870183366656?s=21&t=Ny7E04p2FQCF1ywaJltR_g
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I feel like saying your a "Mims person" is an open request to be bullied at this point.
I just flat out don't care about this dude right now. If he makes the roster: OK; if he gets cut: OK.
Lol, as Jets fans we’ve rooted for much worse/unlikeable players
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Best shape of his LIFE
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Lol, as Jets fans we’ve rooted for much worse/unlikeable players
Like Geno Smith
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Like Geno Smith
I rooted for Geno Smith despite his obvious shortcomings. Perfect game 12/28/14, Never Forget. Never once rooted for Hackenberg.
Geno therefore an objectively better pick.
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He had a somewhat promising rookie season, then had a disaster Year 2.
Year 2, he had a bad illness in training camp, and he had to learn a new system that wasn't necessarily what he was drafted for.
I'm not expecting much, and neither are the Jets because he's WR5 entering camp, but the hate has gone too far with some.
And if it's to build up trade value, that's fine, too.
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I'm gonna go dig up the Stephen Hill thread since we're apparently talking about wide receivers who have no chance to make this team.
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I'm gonna go dig up the Stephen Hill thread since we're apparently talking about wide receivers who have no chance to make this team.
Didn't know you were such a big Jeff Smith fan.
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Didn't know you were such a big Jeff Smith fan.
I'm actually Vyncint Smith Hyve. 4 LYFE
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Denzel Mims Pros/Cons List:
Pros:
-Not Jeff Smith
Cons:
-No glaring negatives when compared directly to Jeff Smith
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Mims is a JAG...like Gary Dortch
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(https://i.ibb.co/YcQXnpR/8-E7-C84-C3-BD1-F-42-CD-B9-E2-23466-C483-E30.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Can you at least buy me a drink first?
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Saleh says Mims is in “fantastic shape” and has worked on what the Jets wanted him to work on.
Mims 2022 Breakout SZN
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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Saleh says Mims is in “fantastic shape” and
has worked on what the Jets wanted him to work on.
Mims 2022 Breakout SZN
drop the surströmming, the hákarl and the rotten salmon and bone up on the playbook.
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it's nice that he's apparently in shape but i'm almost positive that the team didn't ask him to work on getting into better shape as the goal for this offseason and the upcoming season
poor tweet
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it's nice that he's apparently in shape but i'm almost positive that the team didn't ask him to work on getting into better shape as the goal for this offseason and the upcoming season
poor tweet
The word and is key
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Requested a trade per his agent / and reported by Garafolo
https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1562923429715648516
This is annoying not because I think we want to keep him, I expect he was going to be trade in the next 5-10 days anyways, but this hurts leverage a bit
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Requested a trade per his agent / and reported by Garafolo
https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1562923429715648516
This is annoying not because I think we want to keep him, I expect he was going to be trade in the next 5-10 days anyways, but this hurts leverage a bit
It's like a week before final cut downs.
If you're trying to shop someone odds are other teams know you probably don't want to keep them
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It's like a week before final cut downs.
If you're trying to shop someone odds are other teams know you probably don't want to keep them
True. But we still got a 4th for Herndon who is seemingly done as an NFL player a year later. I just like giving Douglas every opportunity to use his leverage as much as possible
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True. But we still got a 4th for Herndon who is seemingly done as an NFL player a year later. I just like giving Douglas every opportunity to use his leverage as much as possible
The best leverage would be more than one team wanting him.
He's young, he's a wideout, he has physical gifts, and is on a rookie contract.
Best we can do is hope
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I’d imagine the teams most interested would be the Bears, Texans, Falcons, Panthers (lacking capital).
Ravens and Packers lack WRs but likely would have no interest in a move like this.
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Trade him for a late rounder
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What leverage did we really have? This was an extremely obvious situation since early in camp. This was inevitable.
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Someone might trade a late rounder for him to make sure they can get him before he hits waivers. He'll get claimed for sure.
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The Athletic's Joe Person reports the Panthers "have called about Jets WR Denzel Mims."
Mims showed some promise as a rookie, going for 357 yards in nine games. In his second season, he was completely phased out of the offense. Mims totaled just 133 yards in 2021. If a trade isn't worked out, it's likely that the Jets simply cut him before Week 1. Mims posted a pair of 1,000-yard seasons under Panthers head coach Matt Rhule while both were at Baylor. Carolina is also dangerously thin at receiver behind D.J. Moore and Robbie Anderson. The familiarity makes Carolina an ideal landing spot for Mims, though he will remain off the fantasy radar no matter where he ends up.
Oh I'd love it.
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Oh I'd love it.
How long until Rhule starts throwing him under the bus?
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Oh I'd love it.
that's a familiar anus for JD to trade rape. Get it done.
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that's a familiar anus for JD to trade rape. Get it done.
What do they have left?
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What do they have left?
https://www.panthers.com/news/panthers-draft-picks-2023-full-list-trades-moves-nfl
they have a 2nd and 4th next year. JD should be able to mindfuck the Panthers out of their 2nd rounder, but, conventional wisdom tells me the 4th rounder is more plausible.
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https://www.panthers.com/news/panthers-draft-picks-2023-full-list-trades-moves-nfl
they have a 2nd and 4th next year. JD should be able to mindfuck the Panthers out of their 2nd rounder, but, conventional wisdom tells me the 4th rounder is more plausible.
Bud they've got a first next year. Do you even Douglas?
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Bud they've got a first next year. Do you even Douglas?
lol
I see you chose to fly very close to the sun. I admire that.
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lol
I see you chose to fly very close to the sun. I admire that.
If they trade away a first for Mims I'm assuming Rhule will be fired on the spot.
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If they trade away a first for Mims I'm assuming Rhule will be fired on the spot.
As it turns out, trading a 2nd and a 4th for what turned out to be a backup QB should've cost someone their job.
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As it turns out, trading a 2nd and a 4th for what turned out to be a backup QB should've cost someone their job.
Sorry, when I said "fired" I meant "out of an artillery piece." My bad.
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Sorry, when I said "fired" I meant "out of an artillery piece." My bad.
(https://playingintheworldgame.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/rice.jpg)
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I wonder if Carolina would give up Darnold for Mims, especially with this ominous injury to Zach.
Plus sources say Darnold has familiarity with Saleh from their zoom call 2 years ago
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I wonder if Carolina would give up Darnold for Mims, especially with this ominous injury to Zach.
Plus sources say Darnold has familiarity with Saleh from their zoom call 2 years ago
Nobody wants Sam, he’s of no value to us.
Also he just fucked his leg up against the bills.
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I wonder if Carolina would give up Darnold for Mims, especially with this ominous injury to Zach.
Plus sources say Darnold has familiarity with Saleh from their zoom call 2 years ago
Carolina’s strapped for QBs right now. Sam at the very least has a bad high ankle sprain and rookie Matt Corral has a torn ligament in his foot. Instead of needlessly dealing for a dinged up Sam, Joe Douglas should dangle Mike White and a tape of last year’s Jets-Bengals game in front of Matt Rhule.
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homie's had two years to learn the same playbook and is demanding a trade request like we didn't give him a fair shot. our team sucked last year and WR bums off the street were getting more burn than him because he wasn't prepared to play
no matter where he goes his dumb derriere will not make it in this league
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Carolina’s strapped for QBs right now. Sam at the very least has a bad high ankle sprain and rookie Matt Corral has a torn ligament in his foot. Instead of needlessly dealing for a dinged up Sam, Joe Douglas should dangle Mike White and a tape of last year’s Jets-Bengals game in front of Matt Rhule.
White and Mims for a 2nd rounder, do it Tanny
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1564672673644527618?t=KlNPD2sAAyFYTcRu5FZk_Q&s=19
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/31/robert-saleh-i-dont-view-denzel-mims-as-a-hostage/
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https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1565113499235356673
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https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1565113499235356673
Seems like a reasonable response
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Trade him for Dortch
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Trade him for Dortch
Who dat?
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https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1565113499235356673
I'm totally fine with this. Stick to the price and keep him around in case we need him.
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I'm totally fine with this. Stick to the price and keep him around in case we need him.
Jalen Reagor went for a 2023 7th and a 2024 conditional 4th or 5th. I think something like that was fair. Reagor was drafted higher, but I didn't think there was a big difference between the two as prospects.
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Afternoon gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall nut in no eyes, buy no Camaros, pee in no end zones. I shall wear no Pepsi Rookie of the Week Belts and win no glory. I shall live and die running the post route. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the warmer of the bench. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that fills the stadium, the horn that signals first downs, the guy that pulls Saleh back to the sideline. I pledge my life and honor to the Mims Watch, for this Sunday and all the Sundays to come.
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Stick to the price and keep him around in case we need him.
lol, lmao
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Afternoon gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall nut in no eyes, buy no Camaros, pee in no end zones. I shall wear no Pepsi Rookie of the Week Belts and win no glory. I shall live and die running the post route. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the warmer of the bench. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that fills the stadium, the horn that signals first downs, the guy that pulls Saleh back to the sideline. I pledge my life and honor to the Mims Watch, for this Sunday and all the Sundays to come.
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i'd love for a mims turn just as much as everybody else and i'd love to be proven wrong but let's be real, homie is derriere
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i'd love for a mims turn just as much as everybody else and i'd love to be proven wrong but let's be real, homie is derriere
Gulag
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The dawn of Mims is today
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Afternoon gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall nut in no eyes, buy no Camaros, pee in no end zones. I shall wear no Pepsi Rookie of the Week Belts and win no glory. I shall live and die running the post route. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the warmer of the bench. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that fills the stadium, the horn that signals first downs, the guy that pulls Saleh back to the sideline. I pledge my life and honor to the Mims Watch, for this Sunday and all the Sundays to come.
LFG
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Hoodie Mims
https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1584337373361451008?t=9RNyQSa1X3ILNmKEs6Vthw&s=19
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https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1584336538346745856?t=jPMEESd7YxZIcnxzP-l7Rw&s=19
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https://twitter.com/dannybkelly/status/1587954933110034432?s=46&t=xw7oGu7mlwRRfCtXt-Vn2Q
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https://jetsxfactor.com/2022/11/01/ny-jets-film-denzel-mims-2022-start/
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Mims looked good. Was open a lot on the All 22. Maybe he can maybe turn into something for us. His blocking is also really nice to have, especially when Davis is out.
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https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1588541173886382081
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https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1588541173886382081
Something switched 3 weeks ago? You mean when the guy was told he was gonna play he suddenly started working harder? Weird
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Something switched 3 weeks ago? You mean when the guy was told he was gonna play he suddenly started working harder? Weird
TBF there hasn't been any suggestion that he hasn't been working hard, only that for whatever reason he wasn't part of the staff's gameday plans.
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Something switched 3 weeks ago? You mean when the guy was told he was gonna play he suddenly started working harder? Weird
Or maybe after the other guy wasn't getting targeted enough and started lollygagging on his routes (see zach's left sideline int in Pitt)
As for Salah, I dunno; slow news day maybe?
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Yeah I'm hopping on that Mims bandwagon. I'm ready for Mimsanity.
Blocked his butt off on some of those runs
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MIMSANITY
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It still needs to be said, the freaking confidence we had to go to Mims on the biggest play of the game (before the Huff sack) blows my freaking mind
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It still needs to be said, the freaking confidence we had to go to Mims on the biggest play of the game (before the Huff sack) blows my freaking mind
Mims looked good in camp this year, and the coaches talked about him turning a corner. He's a lot more of a catch-in-traffic guy than the other guys we have with Davis out. Throwing to him in that spot definitely shows that it's not just words.
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I don't think he's a great receiver but he's playing his derriere off for us right now and I respect that a lot
He blocked a defensive back out of play with one arm on one of Carter's long runs
It's going to be badass when we have Davis and Mims outside
(freak Elijah Moore)
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I don't think he's a great receiver but he's playing his derriere off for us right now and I respect that a lot
He blocked a defensive back out of play with one arm on one of Carter's long runs
It's going to be badass when we have Davis and Mims outside
(freak Elijah Moore)
I wonder if Davis and Mims outside with Wilson inside is better for us this season. Mims' blocking really helps, and if we have him AND Davis in there, we have 2 great blocking receivers, plus a playmaker in Wilson.
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I don't think he's a great receiver but he's playing his derriere off for us right now and I respect that a lot
He blocked a defensive back out of play with one arm on one of Carter's long runs
It's going to be badass when we have Davis and Mims outside
(freak Elijah Moore)
I’m not sure how many targets Mims had today, but he was super close on a number of special plays. The deep ball early he fully extended and just couldn’t. There was a ball over the middle that would have been a full extension grab. The high pass he went up for and got hit and couldn’t hold on. He and Zach have been so close and you have to think they will connect on something soon.
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IDK how the zebras didn't throw a flag on his last catch. Dude got hit in the head by the second tackler.
It's nice to see him contributing.
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IDK how the zebras didn't throw a flag on his last catch. Dude got hit in the head by the second tackler.
It's nice to see him contributing.
Don't think he did, he pulled a limbo move and the tackler went over the top of him. I don't think there was any contact.
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Don't think he did, he pulled a limbo move and the tackler went over the top of him. I don't think there was any contact.
Correct, Mims dodged it.
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I don't think he's a great receiver but he's playing his derriere off for us right now and I respect that a lot
He blocked a defensive back out of play with one arm on one of Carter's long runs
It's going to be badass when we have Davis and Mims outside
(freak Elijah Moore)
Elijah Moore shouldn’t be on the outside, anyway.
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in one of the post game pressers zach called him 'big body mims' and said something along the lines of he was looking to put his ball into mims' big body late
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The Athletic's Zack Rosenblatt writes Denzel Mims "faces an uphill climb to making the team."
Not that this wasn't spelled out via New York's offseason moves, as they didn't get rid of Corey Davis and also brought in Allen Lazard and Randall Cobb, but Mims could be a trade candidate as we head into camp and/or last cuts. He did practice some at OTAs, but also missed the latter half for "unknown reasons." Mims, entering the final year of his rookie contract, has a 42/676/0 career line in three seasons.
Bad fish again?
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Bad fish again?
Hackett asked him to learn three plays and it gave him chronic migraines
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Hackett asked him to learn three plays and it gave him chronic migraines
”Denzel!…to the right!…run to the RIGHT!!””
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Statue_of_Liberty_play_diagram.jpg/276px-Statue_of_Liberty_play_diagram.jpg)(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/The_Thinker%2C_Auguste_Rodin.jpg/161px-The_Thinker%2C_Auguste_Rodin.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1681696636186292226
Our Mims watch is ending.
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Brownlee's spot to lose.
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2021 Elijah Moore
2020 Denzel Mims
2015 Devin Smith
2012 Stephen Hill
Can't believe Mims outlasted Moore.
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JD currently sitting at 1/3 on WR selections.
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Why is this making news today? That’s just a weird time for us to have come to this conclusion
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Why is this making news today? That’s just a weird time for us to have come to this conclusion
First day of camp. Didn't want to cut him before the draft / FA in case they needed him, then he'll have been off somewhere else in the world for the summer. I'm sure they told him it was coming but they probably need to bring a player in to formally waive him, and this would have been the first chance they had.
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I wonder if he showed up and requested a trade again
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I wonder if he showed up and requested a trade again
Saw salmon on the menu and said I'm out.
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Wow, they actually got something back for him. Traded to Lions for something,.
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If its higher than a sixth, I will be pleasantly surprised
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Mims and a 7th for Detroit’s 6th rounder
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Mims and a 7th for Detroit’s 6th rounder
Might need to be Mims and a 6th for Detroit's 7th.
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Amon-Ra better update that resume, Mims comin
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Apparently the 6th is conditional
Interesting how the Jets are setting a precedent by sending malcontent wideouts to the browns and lions
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Apparently the 6th is conditional
Interesting how the Jets are setting a precedent by sending malcontent wideouts to the browns and lions
Both picks are conditional, the condition presumably being that if he doesn't make it out of Detroit's camp then no one sends anyone anything.
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Both picks are conditional, the condition presumably being that if he doesn't make it out of Detroit's camp then no one sends anyone anything.
Dude must be quite the catch if he's not even worth a non conditional swap of a 6th and 7th
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Dude must be quite the catch if he's not even worth a non conditional swap of a 6th and 7th
Have you not watched this team the past few seasons?
Mims is terrible
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Well it’s done now. Given the timing I doubt it even gets mentioned on hard knocks.
Let’s get camp started and see what this team actually is capable of becoming this season
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Have you not watched this team the past few seasons?
Mims is terrible
Were talking bout a 6th for a 7th swap of a 2nd rounder on a rookie contract
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Were talking bout a 6th for a 7th swap of a 2nd rounder on a rookie contract
So?
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Were talking bout a 6th for a 7th swap of a 2nd rounder on a rookie contract
he is a horrible player
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Glass
half all empty
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Pimm%27s_glas.JPG/180px-Pimm%27s_glas.JPG)
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Jeff Risdon
@JeffRisdon
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Campbell says of Denzel Mims, "he's in the room" blankly. "Wish I could give you more."
Said this immediately after talking about potentially needing to add a WR. Hard to not read between those lines...
lol
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Jeff Risdon
@JeffRisdon
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Replying to @JeffRisdon
Campbell says of Denzel Mims, "he's in the room" blankly. "Wish I could give you more."
Said this immediately after talking about potentially needing to add a WR. Hard to not read between those lines...
lol
Trading a guy for a lowly conditional 6th round pick and then having to 'sweeten' the deal by throwing in a 7th rounder as well kinda says it all
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Denzel_Mims_%287503594%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/216px-Denzel_Mims_%287503594%29_%28cropped%29.jpg)
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Welp
Do we get our 7th rounder back?
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What an absolute bum
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Welp
Do we get our 7th rounder back?
Yes. Because the trade was conditional on Mims making the Lions' 53-man roster, the Lions will get back their 2025 sixth-round pick while a 2025 seventh-round pick will return to New York
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writing was on the wall for this guy when he blamed an entire lost season of development on the fact that he got food poisoning and lost 20 pounds (LOL) in the offseason. that's why he couldn't study the playbook, line up correctly, run any routes, or stay healthy (LMAO)
was obvious this loser didn't have what it took to make it at the top level
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He's a Steeler
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He's a Steeler
Steeler-Jets wide receiver thruway is the new Redskins-Jets wide receiver thruway.