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The Rest Of The Sports World => Designated Hitters Make Baseball Better => Topic started by: MBGreen on November 12, 2019, 09:48:45 AM
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Apparently Gerrit Cole's agent is asking for north of 300 million.
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That's a lot of money for an agent.
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That's a lot of money for an agent.
I want to be a sports agent in my next life.
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I want to be a sports agent in my next life.
You could be the State Farm Aaron Rodgers guy so everyone can hate you more.
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So the Stros are a bunch of freaking cheaters.
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So the Stros are a bunch of freaking cheaters.
*Pretends to be shocked*
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https://twitter.com/redsoxstats/status/1194328007634227201?s=21
“ Some real CIA type excrement going on in Houston. CF camera, pointed at catcher, players and employees watch the feed just outside the dugout and decode signs. When an offspeed pitch is coming they whack a trash can loud enough for everyone on the field to hear.”
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You could be the State Farm Aaron Rodgers guy so everyone can hate you more.
Hatred is my cocaine
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When you remember that the Yankees went 0-4 at Minute Maid park in the 2017 ALCS
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When you remember that the Yankees went 0-4 at Minute Maid park in the 2017 ALCS
This past ALCS, during Tanaka's start, on a few occasions the camera caught him glaring into the Houston dugout after a pitch.
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https://twitter.com/jomboy_/status/1194348775965437952?s=21
Uh, wow.
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https://twitter.com/jomboy_/status/1194348775965437952?s=21
Uh, wow.
The part at the end about Hinch's comments really seals it. Like he says, "You sound like a pompous dick."
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Astros have released a statement:
“Regarding the story posted by The Athletic earlier today, the Houston Astros organization has begun an investigation in cooperation with Major League Baseball. It would not be appropriate to comment further on this matter at this time.”
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Astros have released a statement:
“Regarding the story posted by The Athletic earlier today, the Houston Astros organization has begun an investigation in cooperation with Major League Baseball. It would not be appropriate to comment further on this matter at this time.”
this sounds like they know they're fvcked lol. if there wasn't anything to a story, they would just come out and say there's nothing there.
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LA lost to them in the World Series in 7.
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LA lost to them in the World Series in 7.
(https://i.redd.it/og6oyf8yqby31.jpg)
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Would have liked another shot at them this year, kind of glad Washington beat them.
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According to The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal and Evan Drellich, Red Sox manager Alex Cora and recently hired Mets manager Carlos Beltran both played a “key role in devising the sign-stealing system the team used that season” while they were a part of Houston manager A.J. Hinch’s team.
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Beltran says their system didn't break any rules. Who could ever believe Cora and Beltran were cheaters?!
Trevor Bauer is having a field day with the story.
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Unless they send us the 2017 trophy and allow the team to spray champagne around Dodger Stadium, I could give a excrement at this point.
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Unless they send us the 2017 trophy and allow the team to spray champagne around Dodger Stadium, I could give a excrement at this point.
Obviously, you can't erase the past, but if this is something they've been doing, and it goes a lot further than just one postseason at this point, then you've got to stop them going forward.
Personally, I think sign stealing should be banned from the sport altogether. You can't stop a team from noticing a pitcher tipping pitches, but a guy on second shouldn't be allowed to relay pitch selection to a batter, much less the dugout doing it.
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Obviously, you can't erase the past, but if this is something they've been doing, and it goes a lot further than just one postseason at this point, then you've got to stop them going forward.
Personally, I think sign stealing should be banned from the sport altogether. You can't stop a team from noticing a pitcher tipping pitches, but a guy on second shouldn't be allowed to relay pitch selection to a batter, much less the dugout doing it.
I agree but on the other hand it's as old as the dirt. Stop it as much as you can, or change up your signs if you think they're doing it.
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I agree but on the other hand it's as old as the dirt. Stop it as much as you can, or change up your signs if you think they're doing it.
Obviously, you can't clear it out completely, but if you blanket make it illegal, it's a punishable offense in all cases. That's a significant deterrent. The problem is, MLB has a "you shouldn't do that" attitude, and that just leaves it open for finding "better" ways to do it.
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https://twitter.com/trevorplouffe/status/1195064380620066817?s=21
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Cody Belinger MVP, well deserved.
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https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1197700380383043585
Uhhhhh
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https://twitter.com/cdgoldstein/status/1197905773168398336?s=21
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Their farm system should be decimated for this.
I don't want to hear any arguments about "Other teams cheat too." This goes way beyond what any other team does and had an incredible (and arguably incalculable) impact. Put an asterisk next to their division titles, league pennants, and their World Series, sure, but their farm system should be crippled for the next decade.
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Explains how we gave up 13 runs in a World Series game.
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Their farm system should be decimated for this.
I don't want to hear any arguments about "Other teams cheat too." This goes way beyond what any other team does and had an incredible (and arguably incalculable) impact. Put an asterisk next to their division titles, league pennants, and their World Series, sure, but their farm system should be crippled for the next decade.
Let the hate flow through you
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Explains how we gave up 13 runs in a World Series game.
Pretty good evidence out there that they used this system in that WS
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Hamels to Atlanta, 1yr 18 mil.
Wheeler to Philly, 5 yrs at 118.
That's a big investment in Wheeler, but he's young, you know he can handle the division and he's on an upward trajectory. Not a bad move for Philadelphia. They might not have a bonafide ace, but Nola-Wheeler is a nice top of the rotation.
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Ryu signed with the Jays. If he stays healthy he's a great pickup, good hitter too and can put a bunt down. Guess that doesn't help you in the beer league.
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Ryu signed with the Jays. If he stays healthy he's a great pickup, good hitter too and can put a bunt down. Guess that doesn't help you in the beer league.
Ryu was promoted to the Show...thanks for your business
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Ryu was promoted to the Show...thanks for your business
'The Show" in a 3rd world country. Like a soccer player joining the Ecuadorian A league.
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'The Show" in a 3rd world country. Like a soccer player joining the Ecuadorian A league.
Nope...it’s called the AL...and it’s better
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Nope...it’s called the AL...and it’s better
Be kind. Not everyone can accept facts like climate change, round earth, stupidity of pitchers hitting.
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Be kind. Not everyone can accept facts like climate change, round earth, stupidity of pitchers hitting.
And a lot of people aren't smart enough to employ strategy in the game so just remove it. Why learn something when you can just make it go away?
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Be kind. Not everyone can accept facts like climate change, round earth, stupidity of pitchers hitting.
It's bad enough pitchers have to dodge screamer line drives when they're on the mound, imagine having to deal with getting beaned as well. The NL is terrible.
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And a lot of people aren't smart enough to employ strategy in the game so just remove it. Why learn something when you can just make it go away?
Who hurt you?
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It's bad enough pitchers have to dodge screamer line drives when they're on the mound, imagine having to deal with getting beaned as well. The NL is terrible.
Imagine honing your craft and becoming elite at it to the point where you feel like you could strike out a Mike Trout at will. Then you get drafted by a team that forces you to bat against a guy just like you.
On the other hand, maybe you get excited because for the years you're under team control before free agency, you know you're facing the weakest lineups in the sport with an automatic out after every 8 batters. That'll do wonders for your first FA contract!
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Lol. So, batting for a pitcher literally seems like the worst thing on the planet ever. What are these guys, complete pussies? God forbid THEY bean someone. They get to hide on the bench. Must be nice
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Baseball is such an awesome sport. Be in shape. Hell, don’t be in shape.
What does it matter if your only job is batting every hour or so. Why bother learning to field. Get rid of bunting. Make the decisions a manager has to make disappear. Let’s just dumb the sport down even more.
Let’s do automatic bases from now on. One of these pampered millionaires might spike himself running the bases.
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Lol. So, batting for a pitcher literally seems like the worst thing on the planet ever. What are these guys, complete pussies? God forbid THEY bean someone. They get to hide on the bench. Must be nice
The whole point is managing the game around the pitcher's spot, after the starter gets an at bat or two. Using your bench, making decisions, makes the late innings a lot more interesting. People obsessing over those early 1 or 2 at bats are missing that part.
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The whole point is managing the game around the pitcher's spot, after the starter gets an at bat or two. Using your bench, making decisions, makes the late innings a lot more interesting. People obsessing over those early 1 or 2 at bats are missing that part.
Like I said...dumbing things down.
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You guys are right, pitchers batting is dumb.
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By the time I’m 50, baseball will be automatic bases, underhanded softball. Football will be flag football. Basketball will be 3-on-3 with traveling and double dribbles. Every goal in soccer won’t count because they’ll find something wrong with each goal.
The only real sport is hockey.
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Traveling now is a "Eurostep" lol.
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Ryu was promoted to the Show...thanks for your business
Bruh have you followed the Dodgers the past few years? I don’t think a 34 yr old pitcher coming off the best years of his career, going to an inferior team in a better division is a promotion.
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Baseball is such an awesome sport. Be in shape. Hell, don’t be in shape.
What does it matter if your only job is batting every hour or so. Why bother learning to field. Get rid of bunting. Make the decisions a manager has to make disappear. Let’s just dumb the sport down even more.
Let’s do automatic bases from now on. One of these pampered millionaires might spike himself running the bases.
This is a lazy take. We don’t care that Darnold doesn’t have to play defense. Or would you prefer he takes snaps at safety just so he’s a well rounded football player?
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The only real sport is hockey.
This and only this.
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Bruh have you followed the Dodgers the past few years? I don’t think a 34 yr old pitcher coming off the best years of his career, going to an inferior team in a better division is a promotion.
He’s 32
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This is a lazy take. We don’t care that Darnold doesn’t have to play defense. Or would you prefer he takes snaps at safety just so he’s a well rounded football player?
I don’t know when QBs played safety (or any defense for that matter, even Scott Bakula only played QB in Necessary Roughness) but pitchers have always batted for themselves.
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He’s 32
Plus he’s Asian, so he’s really like 28-29. Fair enough
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https://twitter.com/readdanwrite/status/1218223512470675457?s=21
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trout juicing was apparently a very poorly kept secret throughout the amateur baseball circuit in NJ before he got drafted
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mj2sexay's hall of fame ballot which is worth infinitely more than the writers because they're a bunch of ignorant, over-sensitive, pretentious douchebags:
Jeter
Bonds
Clemens
Manny
Schilling
Jeff Kent
Billy Wagner
Larry Walker
Andruw Jones
I bolded Kent because with the exception of Schilling who I still think eventually gets in, I find him to be the guy that's just absolutely completely overlooked. Dude is the most prolific power hitting second baseman in the history of the game. Compare his numbers with Ryne Sandberg who skated to the Hall and tell me he doesn't belong.
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mj2sexay's hall of fame ballot which is worth infinitely more than the writers because they're a bunch of ignorant, over-sensitive, pretentious douchebags:
Jeter
Bonds
Clemens
Manny
Schilling
Jeff Kent
Billy Wagner
Larry Walker
Andruw Jones
I bolded Kent because with the exception of Schilling who I still think eventually gets in, I find him to be the guy that's just absolutely completely overlooked. Dude is the most prolific power hitting second baseman in the history of the game. Compare his numbers with Ryne Sandberg who skated to the Hall and tell me he doesn't belong.
Jeff Kent was universally hated by journalists, the players and his coaches. He’s definitely a hall of famer though. All that other excrement shouldn’t matter. I think Schilling should easily be a HoFer too but he’s not liked either.
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There was a time, when you Google imaged Jeff Kent, you got this:
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/reno911/images/7/75/Dangle.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20090314230151)
Not anymore.
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jeff kent wont get in because hes a world class poopchute and had barry there.
barry and clemens should get in by year 10, but if they dont its simply because they were freaking pricks too
theres no way the writers are going to keep david ortiz and alex rodriguez out, 2 well known juicers when it was actually banned, so theyll lose the steroids excuse
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i wonder if the chicken excrement idiot who didnt vote for jeter is going to come forward?
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i wonder if the chicken excrement idiot who didnt vote for jeter is going to come forward?
Never going to happen. How can you explain it? The only possible excuse is that he/she wanted to give that vote to a "fringe player" rather than "waste it" on a sure-thing inductee. But then that returns the question of "who?" Did you think a 'roider like Clemens or Bonds deserved that vote? Or maybe you thought "Hey, Bobby Abreu had a 'good enuff' career."
I'm unquestionably biased on this one, but FFS, what could be the justification that Jeter didn't deserve to be a 1st-ballot HoFer? Because that's exactly what you're saying when you leave him off your ballot, no matter how you try to justify it.
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I'm unquestionably biased on this one, but FFS, what could be the justification that Jeter or Willie Mays or Ted Williams or Hank Aaron or Babe Ruth or Mike Schmidt or Joe DiMaggio or Nolan Ryan or Sandy Koufax etc etc didn't deserve to be a 1st-ballot HoFer? Because that's exactly what you're saying when you leave him off your ballot, no matter how you try to justify it.
FYP, haha.
Basic reason is that baseball writers are sanctimonious, self-important dipshits.
I didn't expect Jeter to be a unanimous choice (because BBWAA "reasons"), and I'm extremely satisfied that he had the highest percentage ever after Mo.
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Basic reason is that baseball writers are sanctimonious, self-important dipshits.
Quoted for truth X's 1 million.
A bunch of Dan Shaughnessy's. I didn't think I could dislike someone through their writing at NBC more than I did Florio, then I spent 10 minutes on hardballtalk. Look up sanctimonious poopchute in the dictionary and there's Craig Calcaterra.
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FYP, haha.
Basic reason is that baseball writers are sanctimonious, self-important dipshits.
I didn't expect Jeter to be a unanimous choice (because BBWAA "reasons"), and I'm extremely satisfied that he had the highest percentage ever after Mo.
Obviously, every guy you mentioned, and then some, deserved to be unanimous. But I "understand" why they weren't (the old "Ruth wasn't uni, so nobody can be" argument). Today, in the post-Rivera world, the excuse is gone. You can't change the past, but you can be better going forward.
I can't stand that writers vote on player awards. That goes for HoF, MVP, Cy Young, whatever. SFD recently made a comment about Michael Kay being an idiot who hasn't played since tee-ball. How does a guy like him (not him specifically, I don't know if he gets a vote) have the right to judge a guy who spent the best years of his adult life hitting 90MPH fastballs?
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Today, in the post-Rivera world, the excuse is gone. You can't change the past, but you can be better going forward.
This is a great point, and I totally agree.
Again, I'm happily surprised that Jeter only missed by one vote to almost match Mariano. So hopefully it puts the spotlight on that one vote-snubber.
Will he acknowledge his shameful scarlet letter, or will he wear it as a badge of misplaced "honor"?
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https://twitter.com/backaftathis/status/1220151439995101186?s=21
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SOURCE: #Rockies GM Jeff Bridich’s seat is now scorching hot. Facing pressure, Rockies are opening back up talks. Arenado told Rockies to either add for playoffs or trade him, and they did neither. #Mets and #Dodgers in discussions in addition to current front-runner #Cardinals
Rangers in as well
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Rangers in as well
Really wish the Yankees would throw their hat in that ring. They don't have the same prospects as those other clubs, but they could take on the entire salary which is a selling point.
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Really wish the Yankees would throw their hat in that ring. They don't have the same prospects as those other clubs, but they could take on the entire salary which is a selling point.
Nah..you’re good
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Nah..you’re good
Great really. But there's no harm in being better.
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Great really. But there's no harm in being better.
veto
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Now....for Arenado, I’d be open to trading anyone not named deGrom or Alonso. I love McNeill, i would hate to trade him, but for a guy this good, in his prime, I’d pull the trigger.
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Dodgers were interested in him. Even if he just leaves the NL West, that'd be fine.
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Now....for Arenado, I’d be open to trading anyone not named deGrom or Alonso. I love McNeill, i would hate to trade him, but for a guy this good, in his prime, I’d pull the trigger.
your GM was about to trade McNeill for Cano last year
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Nah..you’re good
But I want him
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But I want him
Veto
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your GM was about to trade McNeill for Cano last year
Yeah, he’s a moron.
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Nolan Arenado to MLB-dot-com on #Rockies: “There’s a lot of disrespect from people there that I don’t want to be a part of. You can quote that.”
He gone
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https://mobile.twitter.com/wmur9/status/1057716754590380033
How freaking dumb are these degenerates
I knew there would be karma for this
https://twitter.com/barstoolhubbs/status/1224879061736022018?s=21
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BREAKING: Pete Rose asks MLB for reinstatement, cites no punishment for Astros players for electronic signs-stealing. "There cannot be one set of rules for Mr. Rose and another for everyone else," Rose's 20-page petition to Manfred says.
100% agree
Let Pete Rose into Cooperstown!
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Red Sox about to relive the Butch Hobson era!
Don't get me wrong, I think Verdugo is an exceptional talent. Betts is one of the three best players in baseball.
IS you gotta be foaming at the mouth for the season to start. Dodgers are absolutely S T A C K E D.
As for the Rose stuff, let him in. And the fact that Shoeless Joe continues to stay out for "fixing" the world series ( I wish A-Rod threw some of those playoff series in that fashion, it'd have been a huge upgrade considering jackson hit freaking .375) is a joke.
The Hall of Fame has become a joke. Yes to Harold Baines but no to Curt Schilling. LMAO OK.
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100% agree
Let Pete Rose into Cooperstown!
Yeah, with all the other scandals, it's long overdue for him to get in. No one is doubting he earned it on the field.
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The Red Sox deserve whatever misfortune happens to them in the Betts aftermath. How do you sell that bag of turds to your fanbase?
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The Red Sox deserve whatever misfortune happens to them in the Betts aftermath. How do you sell that bag of turds to your fanbase?
Luxury Tax Champs
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Red Sox about to relive the Butch Hobson era!
Don't get me wrong, I think Verdugo is an exceptional talent. Betts is one of the three best players in baseball.
IS you gotta be foaming at the mouth for the season to start. Dodgers are absolutely S T A C K E D.
As for the Rose stuff, let him in. And the fact that Shoeless Joe continues to stay out for "fixing" the world series ( I wish A-Rod threw some of those playoff series in that fashion, it'd have been a huge upgrade considering jackson hit freaking .375) is a joke.
The Hall of Fame has become a joke. Yes to Harold Baines but no to Curt Schilling. LMAO OK.
The HoF has become nothing more than a popularity contest amongst the members of the media.
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Luxury Tax Champs
Look at all the cap space the Sawx have now! Their fans should be dancing in the streets.
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This article sums it up pretty well...
https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2020/2/5/21123730/mookie-betts-red-sox-trade-los-angeles-dodgers (https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2020/2/5/21123730/mookie-betts-red-sox-trade-los-angeles-dodgers)
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https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2020/2/6/21124292/red-sox-dodgers-alex-verdugo-the-unspoken-problem-with-the-mookie-betts-david-price-trade
More detailed account of the case:
https://highheelsonthefield.typepad.com/all_heels_on_deck/2019/02/dodgers-after-dark-the-sexual-assaults-mlb-never-investigated-a-teams-culture-unexamined.html
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Wow.
He'll fit right in with Boston.
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Looks like Manfred wants to change the playoff format (add more teams). Not sure how i feel about this yet.
https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/02/10/report-mlb-planning-radical-changes-to-playoff-format/
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Looks like Manfred wants to change the playoff format (add more teams). Not sure how i feel about this yet.
https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/02/10/report-mlb-planning-radical-changes-to-playoff-format/
Looks more like Manfred desperately wants a distraction from people talking about how badly he fucked up the Astros debacle.
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I'm not necessarily opposed to expanding the playoffs, but I also don't think it's necessary. It might even be bad for the sport. The top seeds would be off for a week. This isn't like football. Baseball players are used to playing almost every day.
I hadn't thought it about it earlier, but JE might be right. Manfred might just be looking for a way to end the Astros story. He certainly triggered Trevor Bauer.
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Under new playoff rules, over last 6 seasons, 3 of those years teams under .500 would have qualified for the playoffs
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I'm not necessarily opposed to expanding the playoffs, but I also don't think it's necessary. It might even be bad for the sport. The top seeds would be off for a week. This isn't like football. Baseball players are used to playing almost every day.
I hadn't thought it about it earlier, but JE might be right. Manfred might just be looking for a way to end the Astros story. He certainly triggered Trevor Bauer.
Looks more like Manfred desperately wants a distraction from people talking about how badly he fucked up the Astros debacle.
it's gonna take a lot more than a playoff format change to divert attention away from the Astros cheating scandal.
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Under new playoff rules, over last 6 seasons, 3 of those years teams under .500 would have qualified for the playoffs
In the words of Joe Girardi: "It's not what you want."
it's gonna take a lot more than a playoff format change to divert attention away from the Astros cheating scandal.
Oh, I don't think JE or myself are under that illusion.
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Oh, I don't think JE or myself are under that illusion.
Tough to say...not sure you or JE can be trusted.
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Tough to say...not sure you or JE can be trusted.
Well, speaking for myself, no I cannot be trusted. But I still don't think anything short of an OJ-style murder is going to divert attention from the Astros debacle this season.
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it's gonna take a lot more than a playoff format change to divert attention away from the Astros cheating scandal.
For sure, but what else is he supposed to do? Other than strip the Astros of their WS title and suspend every player involved, obviously. Can't do that.
It's going to be so much fun watching the pitching against them this season. Hope they're investing in good armor.
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I’ll be keeping an Astros HBP log this season
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I hope they get freaking bombarded in Spring Training when the games don’t even count
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The shrugs from pitchers with the looks of "Oops, that one got away from me" are going to be great fun to watch.
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Cubs are playing the AL East in interleague. Had they been playing the West, the first thing I'd have done if I was Yu Darvish is put a fastball right into Bregman's numbers.
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For sure, but what else is he supposed to do? Other than
strip the Astros of their WS title
and suspend every player involved, obviously. Can't do that.
It's going to be so much fun watching the pitching against them this season. Hope they're investing in good armor.
Why not JE?
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Why not JE?
I'm being sarcastic. Everyone knows that that's what he should have done, but he's a puppet of the owners and presumably they don't want that.
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I'm being sarcastic. Everyone knows that that's what he should have done, but he's a puppet of the owners and presumably they don't want that.
I don't think that's why.
I think it's probably because he didn't expect it to be as bad as it was, and he offered immunity to all the players if they fully cooperated. They did, so he had to keep his end of the bargain.
He painted himself into a corner. It was stupid, but there's not much he can do about it. Honestly, there's been enough front-office anger that I wouldn't be surprised if other teams look to replace him when his contract is up, and I wouldn't be surprised if at least a few owners--especially those directly affected, like LA and NYY--felt the title should be vacated.
I think the only way Manfred saves his own job at this point is if he magically turns around the popularity of the sport. I'll just go ahead and say now that I highly doubt expanding the playoff format will do that.
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I don't think that's why.
I think it's probably because he didn't expect it to be as bad as it was, and he offered immunity to all the players if they fully cooperated. They did, so he had to keep his end of the bargain.
He painted himself into a corner. It was stupid, but there's not much he can do about it. Honestly, there's been enough front-office anger that I wouldn't be surprised if other teams look to replace him when his contract is up, and I wouldn't be surprised if at least a few owners--especially those directly affected, like LA and NYY--felt the title should be vacated.
I think the only way Manfred saves his own job at this point is if he magically turns around the popularity of the sport. I'll just go ahead and say now that I highly doubt expanding the playoff format will do that.
I'm still betting it's the owners. My guess is that there are plenty of other organisations with skeletons they don't want uncovering, and taking drastic actions against the Astros might lead to the people being punished saying "freak you, if I'm going down I'm taking everyone else I can with me". Much better for them to sweep it all under the carpet and hope the fans move on.
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He works for the owners, and he also has a job to protect the image of the league. Admitting that a team that has been the most prominent team in the AL over the last several years is a bunch of cheaters is not a good look for the league. Much easier to scapegoat 2 singular guys and pretend it wasn’t a systemic organizational issue.
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I'm still betting it's the owners. My guess is that there are plenty of other organisations with skeletons they don't want uncovering, and taking drastic actions against the Astros might lead to the people being punished saying "freak you, if I'm going down I'm taking everyone else I can with me". Much better for them to sweep it all under the carpet and hope the fans move on.
I think if that were the case, teams would be telling players: "Look, what's done is done. We can't change it, so let's just answer with 'It sucks, but what can you do?' and let's move on."
The thing is, yes, every team has some skeletons, but this story was unbelievably bad--and getting worse. As bad as steroids were, I don't think that even compares to this. Being able to work out longer, recover faster, and even maybe gain some in-game skill enhancement is nothing compared to a professional hitter knowing exactly what pitch is coming.
Pros can hit a fastball. They can hit a curveball or a slider. But what makes it hard is that they don't which is coming. If you guess fastball, you swing before the ball gets there. If you guess curve, you swing when the ball's hitting the catcher's mitt. That's the only thing that makes a live game different from batting practice. CC Sabathia hit home runs in BP.
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https://957thegame.radio.com/articles/aubrey-huff-says-women-don-t-belong-in-men-s-pro-sports
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https://twitter.com/baseballbros/status/1230513716925489152?s=21
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I knew Jorge Soler had a breakout year last season, had no idea he got up to 48 bombs. Wow. Think the Cubs gave him away for peanuts.
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Zack Greinke reported today and said today is final day players can report.
"I just found out we don’t have to come these other days. If I would have known that 15 years ago, I wouldn’t have been coming for a while now," he said.
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Zack Greinke reported today and said today is final day players can report.
"I just found out we don’t have to come these other days. If I would have known that 15 years ago, I wouldn’t have been coming for a while now," he said.
i believe him, dudes my kind of people. stay away from other people as much as possible
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joey bart is gonna be a great hitter in the MLB, i cannot wait to see him in the bigs
giants are still going to suck this year.
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For the second time this spring training, the Boston Red Sox quarantined a player in wake of the virus outbreak.
Taiwanese pitcher Chih-Jung Liu has been bottled up in a Florida hotel room since his arrival from overseas, as the Red Sox are using “an overabundance of caution,” a team spokesperson told the Boston Globe.
Liu, 20, is the second Boston player to be quarantined by the organization after fellow countryman, infielder Tzu-Wei Lin, was quarantined earlier this month due to worries over the virus that is believed to have originated in China.
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The Angels fired their longtime visiting clubhouse manager after an internal investigation confirmed that he was providing opposing pitchers with illegal ball-doctoring substances. MLB, which vows to enforce that rule this season, tipped them off. ...
Lol
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So supposedly the baseball is de-juiced this year
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Anyone want in on a fantasy baseball league with some of my dumbass friends, yahoo, $20 buy in and draft target date next Monday at 7:15
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https://twitter.com/pitchingninja/status/1236277582259200000?s=21
Curveball porn
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https://twitter.com/georgeofman/status/1239247927949885440?s=21
No
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that would be a faster way for the dodgers to choke and lose again
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Chris Sale Tommy John
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Chris Sale Tommy John
Wow.
But while there's never a "good" time for it, this is a "good" year if you're ever going to have to go through it.
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https://www.mlb.com/amp/news/watch-classic-mlb-games-for-free.html?__twitter_impression=true
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https://twitter.com/mlbonfox/status/1242572528717086720?s=21
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https://twitter.com/mlbonfox/status/1242572528717086720?s=21
Manny Ramirez??
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Manny Ramirez??
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^ Hahahahahahahahahaha
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The players and league agreed the 2020 MLB season won't begin until:
- There are no bans on mass gatherings that limit the ability to play in front of fans*
- There are no travel restrictions
- Medical experts determine games will not pose a risk to health of teams and fans
* The caveat agreed to by the players and league is that they will consider playing games at neutral sites instead of home ballparks -- and will consider the feasibility of playing in empty stadiums and just how proper a solution it may be for both sides and especially fans.
-Passan
Welp
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Welp
Also, there's the problem of the international border. If you lot lift your ban on gatherings but are still a mess, and Canada goes "nah brah, you ain't bringing that excrement back up here", then you potentially have to play without the Jays. And what's the point then?
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Also, there's the problem of the international border. If you lot lift your ban on gatherings but are still a mess, and Canada goes "nah brah, you ain't bringing that excrement back up here", then you potentially have to play without the Jays. And what's the point then?
I really hate the idea of no season and I’m sure Jays fans do too. We lose a season of service time on our young, cheap core with no development to show for it.
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They can play games without fans in attendance. I think calling the season gone is a long shot.
My guess is no fans in seats until the all star break where they allow everyone to attend and all systems go after that
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They can play games without fans in attendance. I think calling the season gone is a long shot.
My guess is no fans in seats until the all star break where they allow everyone to attend and all systems go after that
Plz
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They can play games without fans in attendance. I think calling the season gone is a long shot.
My guess is no fans in seats until the all star break where they allow everyone to attend and all systems go after that
So everything will be like Marlins games.
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Also, there's the problem of the international border. If you lot lift your ban on gatherings but are still a mess, and Canada goes "nah brah, you ain't bringing that excrement back up here", then you potentially have to play without the Jays. And what's the point then?
Just gotta play the Orioles twice as much I guess.
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Just gotta play the Orioles twice as much I guess.
You're scared of Bo and Vlad. I get it.
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You're scared of Bo and Vlad. I get it.
We’d be sacrificing 40+ HRs if we don’t get a full slate of games against that Jays pitching staff
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I’ve been coping alright, but I miss Papa Slams
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I’ve been coping alright, but I miss Papa Slams
Dodgers are the only pro team I have with any kind of chance at a title, Kershaw isn't getting any younger.
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ah darn, this was probly the dodgers year, too.
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ah darn, this was probly the dodgers year, too.
I laughed because i actually pictured you saying this out loud....with the perfect amount of snark.
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I think there will be a season eventually.
It was worse for Seton Hall, this was their first chance to really make a mark in decades and it got taken away from them. For the Knicks and Devils it just put them out of their misery early.
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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29101917/passan-20-questions-there-mlb-2020-just-matter-where-how?platform=amp
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Per @JeffPassan, teams are telling their players to “get ready.” There is an expectation that @MLB will announce a plan for the 2020 season within the next week.
I’m Ready Let’s Go
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Per @JeffPassan, teams are telling their players to “get ready.” There is an expectation that @MLB will announce a plan for the 2020 season within the next week.
I’m Ready Let’s Go
Daddy needs this
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Baseball? Returning?!
LFG
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Let’s go Astros
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Con: there won't be any fans there to boo Altuve et al
Pro: we're going to hear every scream of pain from every beanball that finds its mark
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https://twitter.com/jared_carrabis/status/1258476042022465538?s=21
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i wonder if theyre gonna touch on his wife ignoring roys wishes to go into the hall as a blue jay because the phillies gave her a job and the blue jays didnt trade him when she wanted?
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The MLB owners have approved a proposal to present to players, as @Ken_Rosenthal reported. They plan to meet tomorrow to discuss it.
Now is when it starts to get serious. And we'll know soon enough if baseball is actually coming back in 2020.
Passan
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https://twitter.com/jflan816/status/1260721297522339843?s=21
I always knew Snell was a massive player of the pink oboe
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https://twitter.com/jflan816/status/1260721297522339843?s=21
I always knew Snell was a massive player of the pink oboe
I disagree. I think he's right. He made his point in a shitty way, but I agree with the substance of the argument.
Why do the players have to sacrifice salary they'll never recoup? And be sequestered from their families (or put their families' health at risk)? And risk injury while at reduced pay?
We're in a crazy world and emotions play a big part of people's perceptions of situations. Unemployment is skyrocketing, so no one wants to hear a millionaire cry about his lost income, but Tony Clark is right, player salaries aren't tied to revenue. And the owners wanted it that way. When times were good and owners were making money hand-over-fist, they didn't want to share. Well, what goes around, comes around.
Pay the players.
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https://twitter.com/jflan816/status/1260721297522339843?s=21
I always knew Snell was a massive player of the pink oboe
Marc Topkin
@TBTimes_Rays
#Rays Snell said he thinks concern over #coronavirus is being over-hyped by media: “If I get it, it I get it.”
1:31 PM · Mar 11, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
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That’s funny, I’m making less money because of all this, I’m way more at risk at getting this than an MLB player is and I have to bring home that chance to my family every day from work. Play your kid’s game and make 10 million a year instead of 15 million a year for just one year.
My wife is a soccer coach and she’s raised $6,000 for groceries for the town’s food harvest and the line is pretty long every day and these guys are gonna complain? Sorry but that’s a bunch of bullshit and goes to show you how out of touch they are with the people who usually spend a few hundred bucks just to watch a 9-inning game.
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I disagree. I think he's right. He made his point in a shitty way, but I agree with the substance of the argument.
Why do the players have to sacrifice salary they'll never recoup? And be sequestered from their families (or put their families' health at risk)? And risk injury while at reduced pay?
We're in a crazy world and emotions play a big part of people's perceptions of situations. Unemployment is skyrocketing, so no one wants to hear a millionaire cry about his lost income, but Tony Clark is right, player salaries aren't tied to revenue. And the owners wanted it that way. When times were good and owners were making money hand-over-fist, they didn't want to share. Well, what goes around, comes around.
Pay the players.
I didn’t say I disagree with 100% of what he’s saying. He talks like a prick and he comes off as entitled and selfish.
I don’t buy that he’s worried about the health risks. He very clearly says he would be fine with playing if he was making his full salary.
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Thank you
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How much does money does Stuart Sternberg stand to bring in from a partial season at zero risk to himself?
Snell sounds kind of like a dick here but don't miss the forest for the trees.
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That’s funny, I’m making less money because of all this, I’m way more at risk at getting this than an MLB player is and I have to bring home that chance to my family every day from work. Play your kid’s game and make 10 million a year instead of 15 million a year for just one year.
My wife is a soccer coach and she’s raised $6,000 for groceries for the town’s food harvest and the line is pretty long every day and these guys are gonna complain? Sorry but that’s a bunch of bullshit and goes to show you how out of touch they are with the people who usually spend a few hundred bucks just to watch a 9-inning game.
As I said, human emotion is going to cloud your opinion on a topic like this. You're not wrong, but he's not wrong for implying "Pay me my entire salary or I'm joining the inevitable picket line and everybody loses."
The difference between us and him is that we can't afford to lose a year's salary and unfortunately, due to the nature of his job, he's far less replaceable than you or me.
BTW, your wife is awesome.
I didn’t say I disagree with 100% of what he’s saying. He talks like a prick and he comes off as entitled and selfish.
I don’t buy that he’s worried about the health risks. He very clearly says he would be fine with playing if he was making his full salary.
He absolutely came off as a prick, no arguments there.
As far as the health risks, I can't speak for him, but even if he is worried, players will be tested at least a few times a week, if not daily, so he's got far less to worry about than the rest of us, and he likely knows that.
How much does money does Stuart Sternberg stand to bring in from a partial season at zero risk to himself?
Snell sounds kind of like a dick here but don't miss the forest for the trees.
Exactly. Snell shows the same out-of-touch attitude that many athletes do ("How am I going to feed my kids?") but the reality is, no one is saying the owners should sacrifice anything. The closest to that anyone comes is saying "Millionaires and billionaires fighting over billions are both going to look awful here."
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Also, not sharing revenue was what the owners wanted when the money was rolling in. The players agreed to not base income on revenue. Well, that works both ways. The owners wanted to cut the players out of any increase in profits. So when they lose profit, it shouldn't come out of the players' pockets. That's how contracts work.
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snell is spot on, why should he take less pay to actually play and not be able to see his family for however many months, all to make sure a freaking billionaire or whatever makes a few extra million while sitting on his derriere at home in a mansion with his family?
why should snell and his teammates risk any long term health effects for a fraction of their salary?
forreal, it sucks your wives are having to deal with this and whatever, but how the freak is that snell or the players problem? they are there to make money too, they just happen to be making more of it.
freak the owners, their greed is whats going to cost us the season in the end, not covid.
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They all make a lot of money to play a child’s sport so I don’t feel one iota of sorriness for either party. Almost every aspect of society has felt this, either emotionally or financially, so what makes them special? Because they can hit a baseball or throw a curve? freak all of them, they can make a little less money, just like the rest of us schlubs. Not sucking my own rooster, but I’m still working my derriere off through all this. No OT, no bartending gig, boo-hoo, right?
Thanks by the way, Alio. I definitely married up.
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They all make a lot of money to play a child’s sport so I don’t feel one iota of sorriness for either party. Almost every aspect of society has felt this, either emotionally or financially, so what makes them special? Because they can hit a baseball or throw a curve? freak all of them, they can make a little less money, just like the rest of us schlubs. Not sucking my own rooster, but I’m still working my derriere off through all this. No OT, no bartending gig, boo-hoo, right?
Thanks by the way, Alio. I definitely married up.
I am with you bro, right there.
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i dont feel sorry for them either, but i'm also not going to expect them to go out and work and not get paid, just like i wouldnt expect you to.
its not just the dudes making 10 million a year who would suddenly make only 2-3 million. it's the dudes making minimum who are gonna be making 25% too.
people are mad at snell because of how he presented his argument, but he was on freaking twitch answering a question.
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The players refusing to play should be about safety....not about money. As soon as it becomes about money, the players look like retards. This applies to the owners too.
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The players refusing to play should be about safety....not about money. As soon as it becomes about money, the players look like retards. This applies to the owners too.
why? because they make more than you?
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why? because they make more than you?
they make more than everybody. Take a look at the unemployment rates before asking that question.
"Bryce Harper might lose a few million off his contract from Fort Knox....Ohhh Nooozz"
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theyre gonna make more than you no matter what, the money really means nothing to me here. i have no vested interest in their negotiations outside wanting to see baseball be played.
do the owners go back and offer them more money when the teams make more? no.
the players already agreed to a pro-rated portion, the owners regret that decision and want to go back on their word and redo the deal they offered in the first place. thats bullshit, utter bullshit. you open a can of worms by even considering this, that has far more consequences in the future.
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theyre gonna make more than you no matter what, the money really means nothing to me here. i have no vested interest in their negotiations outside wanting to see baseball be played.
do the owners go back and offer them more money when the teams make more? no.
the players already agreed to a pro-rated portion, the owners regret that decision and want to go back on their word and redo the deal they offered in the first place. thats bullshit, utter bullshit. you open a can of worms by even considering this, that has far more consequences in the future.
the owners are going to get what they want whether it's right or wrong. That will never change.
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I don’t see anyone arguing that the owners aren’t being pricks
My comments on Snell stand alone.
Look up what Sean Doolittle or Andrew Miller said if you want a player’s take who isn’t a complete lady garden
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Iron clad contracts during an almost unprecedented pandemic? NYC City subways shut down nightly every night for 4 hours and there’s been an OT freeze in my department, which is essential, because they have no revenue to work with. Should we not work because it’s not in our contracts? I’m in one of the strongest unions in the entire country, too. Should we demand OT and demand the subways open because it’s not written in our contracts? Again, because they play a sport, a freaking sport, they’re above all of us? Nothing can be re-thought? I hate to break to people like Snell, but you’re not essential. Your job isn’t and neither are you. They can find someone else willing to pitch in these circumstances.
Please, that’s laughable. freak the owners, freak the players. My interest in baseball was waning as it was, the fact that no one’s willing to budge on this makes me care so little that, and not that they need my interest or money, I doubt I’ll care much when they do eventually play.
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again, theyve already agreed to a pro-rated portion, theyve already bended and compromises. now the owners are asking for even more cutbacks, which is the problem.
its akin to MTA cutting service, and then once the salary guys agreed to just get a pro-rated payment for when they worked, the MTA was like "no, you also will only get 25% for working your normal shifts"
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Approximately 30% of MLB revenue comes from ticket sales, so completely losing that probably puts some teams in the red if player salaries are paid as normal/pro-rated
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again, theyve already agreed to a pro-rated portion, theyve already bended and compromises. now the owners are asking for even more cutbacks, which is the problem.
its akin to MTA cutting service, and then once the salary guys agreed to just get a pro-rated payment for when they worked, the MTA was like "no, you also will only get 25% for working your normal shifts"
This is the third time I’m saying this now. Not getting OT has cut my paycheck. I don’t make MLB money, but this is costing me, probably, on average, $750 a month. That might not seem like much, but it is. And, if there was no pandemic, the ridership would still the same, the revenue would still be there and we’d still be getting OT. It’s not written into our contract that OT can be frozen but, here we are, there are no funds, so they can’t give OT.
Listen, I don’t really care about any of this. It’s just not a good look for either side, considering what’s going on in the World right now. Everybody has had to sacrifice in many different ways. Anybody in any sport, owners or players, have to realize there are a lot of Average Joes and Janes who are gonna have Campbell’s Soup for dinner tonight. People who, never in a million years, thought they’d be standing in line for milk or eggs or cereal, but...they are. It’s about time (and minimum salary is more than a half million so spare me the soapbox excrement) these pampered individuals realize that and they BOTH make some concessions.
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This is the third time I’m saying this now. Not getting OT has cut my paycheck. I don’t make MLB money, but this is costing me, probably, on average, $750 a month. That might not seem like much, but it is. And, if there was no pandemic, the ridership would still the same, the revenue would still be there and we’d still be getting OT. It’s not written into our contract that OT can be frozen but, here we are, there are no funds, so they can’t give OT.
Listen, I don’t really care about any of this. It’s just not a good look for either side, considering what’s going on in the World right now. Everybody has had to sacrifice in many different ways. Anybody in any sport, owners or players, have to realize there are a lot of Average Joes and Janes who are gonna have Campbell’s Soup for dinner tonight. People who, never in a million years, thought they’d be standing in line for milk or eggs or cereal, but...they are. It’s about time (and minimum salary is more than a half million so spare me the soapbox excrement) these pampered individuals realize that and they BOTH make some concessions.
Well said.
And i'm sorry about your OT, man....that really sucks.
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Well said.
And i'm sorry about your OT, man....that really sucks.
It’s ok. We’re making it through and no ones sick so I feel grateful for that. I can still pay my bills and afford groceries. It’s more than what a lot of other people can say, for sure.
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the owners are going to get what they want whether it's right or wrong. That will never change.
Cuck excrement
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It’s ok. We’re making it through and no ones sick so I feel grateful for that. I can still pay my bills and afford groceries. It’s more than what a lot of other people can say, for sure.
I'm glad to hear it. I can't imagine being at the epicenter of this excrement....stay safe, dude.
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Cuck excrement
take it like a man
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I'm glad to hear it. I can't imagine being at the epicenter of this excrement....stay safe, dude.
I feel like it’s gotten better. The level of depravity on the trains seems to have dissipated in the last few weeks. My wife is out of work and had to sacrifice some $$ to drop unemployment and sign back on so her job could qualify for the PPP. That basically guarantees she’ll have a job when things “re-open.” Other than that, her teaching the kids, and not being able to see our family and friends everything is seemingly normal on my end. Not bartending on Saturdays is certainly costing me money too, but I can’t lie, it’s nice having the entire weekend off.
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I'm glad to hear it. I can't imagine being at the epicenter of this excrement....stay safe, dude.
My friends on the east coast, look to the skies and care for your families.
My friends to the north, look to the horizon and find shelter.
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NEW YORK -- Major League Baseball told players their prorated salaries would contribute to an average loss of $640,000 for each game over an 82-game season in empty ballparks, according to a presentation from the commissioner's office to the union that was obtained by The Associated Press.
Painting a picture of a $10 billion industry shuttered by the contagion, the 12-page document titled "Economics of Playing Without Fans in Attendance" and dated May 12 was an initial step in negotiations aimed at starting the delayed season around the Fourth of July.
Teams say the proposed method of salvaging a season delayed by the coronavirus pandemic would still cause a $4 billion loss and would give major league players 89% of revenue.
They contend they lose more money with each additional game played. The players' union, however, believes clubs would lose less money with more games. In addition, many teams and/or their owners have stakes in their regional sports network that would benefit from additional games.
The New York Yankees alone would have $312 million in local losses when calculating their earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization. New York's figure includes about $100 million in payments toward the bonds that financed new Yankee Stadium.
The Los Angeles Dodgers were at $232 million in local losses, followed by the New York Mets at $214 million, Chicago Cubs at $199 million and Boston Red Sox at $188 million.
The Detroit Tigers would have the lowest negative EBIDTA -- an accounting measure used to assess profitability -- at $84 million, with Baltimore at $90 million, and Pittsburgh and Tampa Bay at $91 million each. Figures exclude distributions from the central office, which projects to collect $1.34 billion in media revenue.
The figures were calculated by MLB and its clubs, and the frequently skeptical union already has requested a slew of documents from MLB.
MLB said 2019 revenue was 39% local gate and other in-park sources, followed by 25% central revenue, 22% local media, 11% sponsorship and 4% other.
Teams fears a second wave of the coronavirus would devastate finances if renewed government restrictions cause cancellation of the postseason, which brings in $787 million in media money. The document details who pays what: $370 million by Fox, $310 million by Turner, $27 million by ESPN, $30 million by the MLB Network and $50 million from international and other.
Teams project to increase their debt from $5.2 billion last year to $7.3 billion in 2020, leaving most clubs out of compliance with the labor contract's debt service rule. MLB's central office increased debt by $550 million to support clubs and is seeking $650 million more credit. MLB said many teams do not have the capacity to add more debt to fund losses in 2021.
MLB and the union agreed to a March 26 deal in which players would get a prorated share of their salaries during a shortened season. As part of the agreement, $170 million in salaries are being advanced through May 24. If the season is scrapped, players are guaranteed service time equal to what they accrued in 2019, a key to gaining eligibility for salary arbitration and free agency.
Now that plans have been formulated to possibly start the season in early July in disinfected stadiums with no gate revenue, at least at the start, MLB says the current economics are not feasible. Players have said they already made a deal and see no need for change.
But that deal is contingent on playing in front of fans at regular-season ballparks. The agreement committed both sides to "discuss in good faith the economic feasibility of playing games in the absence of spectators or at appropriate neutral sites."
Still, for all the questions, the presentation does detail the pandemic's financial destruction.
Revenue from regional sports networks drops in proportion to the lost games, from $2.3 billion to $1.2 billion and an average of $980,000 per game for both teams, according to the projection. Teams fear some additional losses because the regional networks will have to give up games to Fox and ESPN to fulfill national contracts. MLB said rights holders have already reserved rights to stop payments or demand refunds if agreed to inventory is not delivered.
Player salaries under the March 26 deal average $1.67 million per game for both clubs. MLB projects overall local revenue at $1.23 million a game for both teams and cost at $1.87 million.
MLB headed into the season projecting $9.967 billion in revenue, including $7.548 billion at the local level, according to the presentation.
Expenses totaled $10.234 billion: $4.366 billion for major league player compensation, $198 million for pensions and benefits, $537 million to sign amateurs, $4.73 billion in local expenses and $403 million for the central office.
That left MLB with a projected EBIDTA of $143 million after stadium depreciation and noncash add backs. Free cash flow was predicted at negative $95 million after interest expenses, mandatory principal payments and non-baseball income and losses, but excluding capital improvements. MLB says EBIDTA has been within $250 million of break-even annually since 2010.
Under the newly developed plan, MLB projects revenue at $2.87 billion, including $1.522 billion at the local level.
Expenses drop to $6.819 billion: $2.36 billion for major league player compensation, including salaries, prorated shares of signing bonuses, termination pay and buyouts of declined options.
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https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEG5FogJeh_Oizbe4uHdXEVQqGAgEKg8IACoHCAowhK-LAjD4ySww-9S0BQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
I didn’t really know where to put this but it’s a really good read about Gregg Jeffries and why he didn’t make it in NY and in that generation. And, yes, I swung a bat underwater for little league.
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https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1265422054880358402?s=21
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https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1265422054880358402?s=21
How much are the owners giving up?
There ain't gonna be baseball in 2020.
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I've read that Mike trout stands to lose more than the Pirates and Marlins would.
There's no way baseball happens this year, no freaking way the players should or would accept that terrible deal.
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Roger Ehrenberg
@infoarbitrage
I've done a bunch more thinking about the @MLB @MLBPA negotiation, fueled by readers' comments as well as a deeper think on the dynamics between the parties. It also helped me reframe the players' position relative to how most people (and certainly I) had thought about it. /1
For starters, let's be clear. The disagreement is about how to best pay for losses sustained by a business. It is no more complex than this. The owners have suffered losses and face additional losses before prospects are likely to improve. This is what we're dealing with. /2
In business, when this happens, the owners of the business need to figure out how to pay for these losses. Sometimes businesses have enough cash to deal with them, other times they don't. Let's for the moment assume that the baseball owners don't have the cash. Now what? /3
I offered some suggestions in yesterday's post. But I should have started with first principles and asked: what is the best metaphor for baseball players in an ordinary business? I kept throwing around the term "employee" but this actually isn't correct - they're DEBTHOLDERS /4
This is when the light bulbs went off. The players aren't at-will employees, they're akin to buyers of bonds who help finance businesses. Rather than give cash upfront for future repayment, they give services. /5
But just as companies can't normally disavow this obligation, neither can the owners. So to be clear, this isn't like a normal business either firing their employees or forcing pay cuts to generate financing, the owners have the contractual obligation to pay. /6
Just like the relationship between businesses and their bondholders. And when businesses run into trouble, they have to negotiate with their bondholders and try to induce them to restructure these obligations - unless they declare bankruptcy, which is a different matter. /7
So as I said yesterday's post, this really reduces into how owners finance current and projected losses. But the status of the players heavily impacts their negotiating position, which is actually stronger than I had fully internalized. /8
So what are the possibilities? To extend the debholders' metaphor, owners could offer a mix of lower cash payments (salary cuts) in exchange equity upside (higher % of future share of revenues for a period, a share of the increase in appraised team values post-recover, etc.). /9
The owners hold the equity. The players hold the debt. If the owners can't pay the debt, the owners need to offer some of their equity. Either the owners have the wherewithal to pay the debt (bank loans, issue new debt, sell part of team) or they don't. /10
And if they don't, then the debtholders' should rightly assume that in exchange for relief they should get a piece of the equity. As mentioned, this can be through a royalty (revenue share) structure or an increase in asset value (appraise team values) approach. /11
But these are just mechanics. The dynamics are crystal clear. Hopefully this is helpful to @MLB @MLPBA and the players who have commented such as @Max_Scherzer and @BusterPosey. /12
One more thought for those who think both sides suck because of the "millionaires vs. billionaires" narrative separate from principle. All across the globe "the best at x" in the world receive large amounts of money. It could be athletes, media stars, executives, whatever. /13
The fact that athletes perform in front of live crowds, and have contracts, is what makes their presence so powerful, and the lack of their presence so galling. But we are all part of this system. This is how they're valued by society. It's not their "fault." /14
They are taking what society gives them. So sure, I get that the optics are bad, but that's really not the point. They're players, parents, children, siblings, friends - they're normal people. They just happen to be among the rare few who can do what they do. Let's play ball! /15
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the 2020 mlb draft will be televised on the MLB network on Jun 10 and 11 (all 5 rounds).
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The MLBPA delivered a proposal to MLB on Sunday afternoon, a source familiar with it tells ESPN. It includes 114-game season that would end October 31, the right to opt out of the season for all players and potential deferral of salaries if 2020 the postseason were canceled.
Important note from the MLBPA's proposal. It has a season start date of June 30. Players want three weeks for training. Bake in a few days to travel to cities -- domestically and from around the world -- and for coronavirus testing. The point: a deal needs to get done this week.
Passan
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whats the big deal in playing into november? freak, a christmas season world series would be sickkkk
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yo i so hope they do it, can you imagine the hype of like a freaking christmas eve world series game? kershaw choking in game 7 on christmas eve would be it for me, i'd just die from all the blood exploding out of my erection
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yo i so hope they do it, can you imagine the hype of like a freaking christmas eve world series game? kershaw choking in game 7 on christmas eve would be it for me, i'd just die from all the blood exploding out of my erection
I would pillage a Tim Horton's in your memory
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there was a point in my life where i never thought i would say anything like this, but i literally would not care if baseball were never to restart, this season or ever again. over the past few years despite trying his darndest to improve the game, manfred has done nothing but worsen it. the icing on the cake was the way he handled the astros cheating scandal prior to all of this, which was a fckin travesty.
for the past 3 months, all involved in baseball management and baseball media have deliberately gone out of their way to ensure that the scandal goes unmentioned, undoubtedly a hopeful attempt to try and make us forget about it. this excrement still weighs heavily on my mind, as im sure it does for many other fans, anytime anything MLB-related is brought up. fck this sport
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there was a point in my life where i never thought i would say anything like this, but i literally would not care if baseball were never to restart, this season or ever again. over the past few years despite trying his darndest to improve the game, manfred has done nothing but worsen it. the icing on the cake was the way he handled the astros cheating scandal prior to all of this, which was a fckin travesty.
for the past 3 months, all involved in baseball management and baseball media have deliberately gone out of their way to ensure that the scandal goes unmentioned, undoubtedly a hopeful attempt to try and make us forget about it. this excrement still weighs heavily on my mind, as im sure it does for many other fans, anytime anything MLB-related is brought up. fck this sport
yeah but...that hot piece of derriere JLo is gonna be your new owner soon.
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yeah but...that hot piece of derriere JLo is gonna be your new owner soon.
if JLo and Arod buy the Mets, i may start to watch baseball/the mets again. i don't even care if they don't accomplish much as owners; getting the wilpon filth out of NY will be a huge victory in and of itself. i'd celebrate it like a fckin title
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There are already riots in the streets
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if JLo and Arod buy the Mets, i may start to watch baseball/the mets again. i don't even care if they don't accomplish much as owners; getting the wilpon filth out of NY will be a huge victory in and of itself. i'd celebrate it like a fckin title
JLo and Arod have enough money to buy the Mets, but not nearly enough money to own the Mets. Not without a significant investor.
Source: sports Franchise finance expert on the FAN the other week when this news broke
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Personally, I’d be excited to watch the Mets because they finally have a decent home grown lineup. McNeil/Alonso/Rosario and the rest of the gang should be fun to watch for years to come
Also getting to watch deGrom every 5 days would be enough to make me forget about the shitty owners for a bit
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Major League Baseball intends to propose a shorter season in which they would pay players a full prorated share of their salaries, sources told ESPN. The league believes the late March agreement allows it to set the schedule, and that this would fulfill players’ pro rata desire.
Passan
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Jeff Passan
The potential season Major League Baseball envisions would run somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 regular-season games, sources told ESPN. The exact number is being considered, but the aim would be to return in July. It would be less than half of players’ proposed season length.
Jeff Passan
An important clarification to this news: MLB will continue discussing alternatives to the shorter season with players but believes that its March agreement with players allows it to mandate a shorter season and is prepared to use that option in the absence of a deal with MLBPA
Ya, that's a load of excrement. 50 games is freaking pointless...
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first run scored in an mlb stadium in 2020! wooo!
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theres no way theres baseball this year. owners seem to think pushing their financial burdens onto the players is a sound strategy for the future, players disagree.
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45 years ago today, a man actually through a no-hitter on acid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUhSYLRw14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-zgoffDeBY
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Legend
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Karl Ravech
@karlravechespn
MLB has made proposal to Players. 75 percent Prorated salary. 76 game season. Playoff pool money. No draft pick compensation for signing player. Season finishes September 27th. Post season ends at end of October. Significant move towards players demands and effort to play more.
but then
Bob Nightengale
@BNightengale
The #MLBPA considers #MLB's latest offer a "step backwards''. They guaranteed 50% pay with possibility of earning 75% prorated salary. Also in proposal, per @karlravechespn, 76-game season, playoff money and no draft pick compensation for free agency.
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Evan Drellich
@EvanDrellich
The MLBPA regards today’s offer from MLB to be worse than the league’s last because it shifts greater emphasis on risk sharing in the postseason. Players would receive 50 percent of pro rata if there is no postseason, 75 if there is.
@karlravechespn first on a new offer coming
@EvanDrellich
Put another way, MLB’s offer can be said to represent a 50 percent per-game pay cut with a potential upside of a 25 percent cut.
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owners are really trying to act like the players are the problem and then offer this.
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Buster Olney
@Buster_ESPN
A voice on the players' side responding to the owners' latest proposal: "This offer should have been in April and it would have been rejected." There is concern among some of the moderates on the players' side that rather than pull the two sides closer, it will serve to entrench.
rip season
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andrew mccutchen
@TheCUTCH22
Lol
but mlb thinks they can force the players to pay a 48game season
Joel Sherman
@Joelsherman1
MLB knows now that no way it can start July 4 weekend. The 76-game proposal will last about a week. Feels like moving toward 48-54 game season that MLB believes players are obligated to play as long as full prorated salaries are paid.
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- 82 games at sliding scale = ~33% salary
- 50 games at prorated pay = ~33% salary
- 76 games at 75% prorated pay = (drumroll) ~33% salary
It all comes back to the same place. MLB keeps making the same offer in different forms.
Axisa
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CBS Sports RJ Anderson:
Heard from multiple front office types that a team with a top-10 pick is at least considering punting the draft. That would include taking a player in the first round who they don’t intend to sign. (They would still offer the minimum required to net a comp pick for next year.)
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totally the angels
im not sure the point, theyve already agreed to delay signing bonuses and excrement, it seems like a new way to try and freak the players.
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MLB draft tomorrow.
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this is the way to reel in fans for a sport that has had a dying audience for years. by a petty travesty of a showing from rich owners who are interested in doing nothing but fck over their players, with absolutely no leadership from a limp dick commissioner whatsoever. rob manfred makes roger goodell look like adam silver
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The Major League Baseball Players Association is making a proposal to Major League Baseball for a season of 89 games with a full prorated share of salary and expanded playoffs, sources familiar with the situation told ESPN's Jeff Passan.
It would bring the sides closer to a potential deal as it is 25 games fewer than the union's last proposal of 114 games at full pro rata, sources told Passan.
MLB proposed on Monday a 76-game season that would cover up to 75% of players' prorated salaries.
This newest MLBPA proposal would have the season start on July 10 and end on Oct. 11, a source tells ESPN's Jesse Rogers. It would also expand the postseason to 16 teams (8 in each league) for 2020 and 2021.
Like MLB's proposal on Monday, this offer has the players sharing in a pool of at least $50 million if playoffs are played without fans.
The proposal also includes opt out rights for all players. Players who are 'high risk' or reside with a 'high risk' individual are entitled to full service and salary in the event they opt out.
Players with no high-risk concerns may opt out, but without service or salary. High-risk qualification would be determined by MLB/PA in consultation with medical experts.
Players are also committing to providing broadcast enhancements for both regular season and post season games.
MLB's latest proposal to players on a return-to-play economic package on Monday offered a higher potential salary than the last plan but less guaranteed money over a 76-game season.
Players and officials at the MLBPA quickly scoffed at the proposal, which was obtained by ESPN, continuing the gridlock that has prevented MLB from returning after a coronavirus-related delay to the beginning of its season.
If the sides are unable to agree to a deal, the league has the ability to implement a schedule of its desired length. It has focused recently on a potential 48-game season, sources told ESPN.
By Jeff Passan
bold is why mlb will reject it
a forced 48game season will be absolutely awful and do more damage to the game than skipping the season.
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happy draft day...Jays pick 5th. #RestocktheCupboards
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Welp
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No worries, WNBA is planning an abbreviated season.
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can any of us say we're surprised when seeing how manfred/the mlb managed the astros cheating scandal? this sport has worked hard to function this poorly, it's well earned
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I'd like to report a murder(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200615/644d765800e3834eafeba47e60973c2c.jpg)
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I need baseball.
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I need baseball.
Kidnap Mark Shapiro a la Christmas Vacation
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Kidnap Mark Shapiro a la Christmas Vacation
haha
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Manfred constantly impresses me with how terrible he is at decision-making combined with how terrible he is at PR. Hard to find such an elite combination in a commissioner, but doggone it the MLB did it
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Is it happening
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https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/1273333382991282182?s=19
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https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1273331814480912384?s=19
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never doubted Manfred for a second
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https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1273333561291128833?s=19
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I feel like the union's gonna want something else of they're waiving grievances
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https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1273674985719152641?s=21
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Get it done already
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Jesse Rogers
@JesseRogersESPN
Sources tell @JeffPassan and I players have voted against the league's latest proposal to play 60 games. The vote was 33-5 against.
welp
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It’s not happening
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“When and where”
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We're not getting sports this year, boys
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Might have to start watching the WNBA like IJR
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We're not getting sports this year, boys
That's a nonsensical statement. Literally all sports are happening except baseball, and that probably will as well.
NHL: restarting next month in host cities
NBA: restarting next month in Disneyworld
NFL: on track to start as scheduled
All European soccer: restarted already
So basically you've lost the end of the NHL season, and the front half of the already massively bloated MLB season.
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That's a nonsensical statement. Literally all sports are happening except baseball, and that probably will as well.
NHL: restarting next month in host cities
NBA: restarting next month in Disneyworld
NFL: on track to start as scheduled
All European soccer: restarted already
So basically you've lost the end of the NHL season, and the front half of the already massively bloated MLB season.
I have a hard time seeing how all three of the NHL, NBA, and NFL will play. I wouldn't be shocked if we don't get any of them.
After just a few days of trying to prep for college football, several programs are inoperable because large portions of their rosters have or have been exposed to COVID-19. How do you expect it to be any different with these pro rosters?
All it takes is one player on a roster to test positive (whether they are asymptomatic or not) and the whole locker room is in a excrement spot. We're seeing it now with CFB teams and we saw it previously with the Utah Jazz.
I just don't see it happening.
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Florida is the next epicenter for the virus. You really believe they're going to be able to put a consistent product on the floor at Disneyworld?
It's wishful thinking.
There will be all kinds of issues.
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Just play out the seasons and let the weaker players die off. Survival of the fittest. Are you really a champion if you couldn’t survive a virus with 1% death rate?
#OpenFuddruckers
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We back
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Elite meme
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https://twitter.com/baueroutage/status/1275345543284183041?s=21
The Trevor Bauer / Aubrey Huff exchange was entertaining
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Huff is freaking pathetic. He did freak all in the playoffs and is acting like he's a world beater. He was only on the team for the second title because Sabean felt like handing out sweetheart deals to the vets instead of building a core to continue winning.
Bauer murked him, and it was phenomenal.
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It happened
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https://twitter.com/gehrig38/status/1275532982502203398?s=21
Curt Schilling has entered the chat
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https://twitter.com/gehrig38/status/1275532982502203398?s=21
Curt Schilling has entered the chat
Curt Schilling has deleted his Tweet.
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https://twitter.com/dsantanaszn/status/1275441878977011713?s=19
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I haven't been this unenthusiastic for a baseball season to start since back when the strike ended.
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Mark Feinsand
@Feinsand
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15h
The Trade Deadline will indeed be August 31. Players must be on the roster by September 15 in order to be eligible for Postseason play.
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https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/multiple-blue-jays-players-staff-members-test-positive-covid-19/
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https://twitter.com/stnap_kcin/status/1275845984929624065?s=21
New Texas Rangers stadium
$1.2 Billion
Edit:
https://twitter.com/b1rky/status/1275815018899165184?s=21
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It's no Jerryworld.
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That cost $1.2 billion dollars.
A metal shed with mismatching sides and doors cost $1.2 billion dollars.
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https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/multiple-blue-jays-players-staff-members-test-positive-covid-19/
I can't see any way the Jays play in Toronto now. It was already unlikely but this just ices the whole idea.
I'd be flabbergasted if the full schedule gets played at this rate.
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That stadium is going to be HOT AS excrement with that kind of roof.
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That stadium is going to be HOT AS excrement with that kind of roof.
Meant to follow up when I saw the inside but forgot.
Interior view looks way better. You can’t even tell that aluminum siding looking excrement is see through.
https://twitter.com/rangers/status/1274084617474228226?s=21
On May 20, 2016, the Rangers announced that they intend to move from Globe Life Park to the new Globe Life Field, beginning with the 2020 season. The new air conditioned stadium will feature a retractable roof, which many argue could increase stadium revenue from those who would otherwise not want to sit in the heat during games as the season progresses throughout the hot Texas summer, in particular those that occur in the afternoon.
That exterior tho... makes me feel better about Metlife.
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That exterior tho... makes me feel better about Metlife.
All I ever see:
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Yeah, Metlife looks so terrible
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Yeah, Metlife looks so terrible
Looks beautiful when you’re a zillion beers and multiple maple whiskey shots deep
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Looks beautiful when you’re a zillion beers and multiple maple whiskey shots deep
Maybe one day Heismanberg will come and find out for himself... nah, who am I kidding?
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Maybe one day Heismanberg will come and find out for himself... nah, who am I kidding?
You gotta make it worth his while....bring a bag of shrimp chips to the tailgate
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Shrimp Dust SZN
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Shrimp chips are an elite snack
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All I ever see:
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im retarded, but hey this is still funny
https://twitter.com/HoodieBoomstick/status/1275805780374097965
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https://twitter.com/cdgoldstein/status/1276171196682375169
Cronk.
@cdgoldstein
absolutely wild* how now that a schedule has been implemented, like 40% of teams have immediately been like "oh, no we're planning on getting butts into seats" when the entire negotiating premise was "THAT ENTIRE PORTION OF OUR REVENUE IS GONE, ASSHOLES"
*predictable
once again, the owners are all freaking trash and i halfway hope the mlb goes under at this point.
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We’re getting my uncle a Washington Nationals WS patch jersey for his 70th bday and I’m pretty pumped about it. He’s a diehard Nats and Skins fan, he was a Nationals fan when he was a kid way back when they were originally in DC before they moved to Minny and became the Twins in the 60’s. Tells me the story all the time how he was just waiting for them to come back basically his whole life. Guy has been rocking a “NATS FAN” license plate my entire life, since before they even moved the Expos to DC to become the Nats
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Major development for Blue Jays: Vlad Guerrero Jr. will now focus on first base this spring per Charlie Montoyo
"He's going to focus on 1B and DH." Third will be an option, but not his main position anymore.
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We’re getting my uncle a Washington Nationals WS patch jersey for his 70th bday and I’m pretty pumped about it. He’s a diehard Nats and Skins fan, he was a Nationals fan when he was a kid way back when they were originally in DC before they moved to Minny and became the Twins in the 60’s. Tells me the story all the time how he was just waiting for them to come back basically his whole life. Guy has been rocking a “NATS FAN” license plate my entire life, since before they even moved the Expos to DC to become the Nats
Just a 'Nats' sidebar. Since your uncle's hitting 70 he probably can recall that the Nats (Nationals) were also an NBA franchise out of Syracuse.
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Jays play the Mets in September.
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Jays could be playing in Buffalo by the looks of it, sounds like the government is playing hardball on the border crossings.
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Jays could be playing in Buffalo by the looks of it, sounds like the government is playing hardball on the border crossings.
Nobody circles the bases like the Buffalo Bluejays.
Today, Rachel Robinson's 98th birthday
https://twitter.com/sharonarobinson/status/1284931372117884935
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Jays looking for an MLB stadium to play in, instead now.
Looking forward to my cell phone bill going up because theres no revenue from the jays.
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Jays looking for an MLB stadium to play in, instead now.
Looking forward to my cell phone bill going up because theres no revenue from the jays.
https://twitter.com/ScottyMitchTSN/status/1285202717707833344
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https://twitter.com/greatstufftm/status/1285569831757119488?s=21
You freaking love to see it
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Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
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20m
Betts, Dodgers agreement is for 12 year extension for about $350M. Just finalizing.
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PA turns down the Jays, theyre still homeless. sounds like they may just be racking up frequent flyer miles this year
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PA turns down the Jays, theyre still homeless. sounds like they may just be racking up frequent flyer miles this year
Toronto Hobos
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Toronto Hobos
They should relocate to Austin and play beneath the overpass
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Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
Blue Jays have the approval of the Orioles to use Camden Yards. They need the state of Maryland sign off on it but that appears to be their best hope for an MLB park to call home at the moment.
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Buster Olney
@Buster_ESPN
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2m
As part of the 16-team expanded playoff proposal, the No. 1, 2, 3 seeds in each league— the Division winners— would pick their opponents among the other 5 teams, with a selection show.
what is this trash?
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what is this trash?
mlb leadership
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mlb leadership
freak everything
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what is this trash?
Backyard baseball
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This is what making chicken salad out of chicken excrement looks like, fellas
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This is what making chicken salad out of chicken excrement looks like, fellas
Geg Williams is insulted by your post
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i don't know how people involved with baseball could think 'we need a competent, proficient person to be the caretaker of baseball' and come up with bud selig
and follow it up with rob manfred
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https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1286365378067783683?s=19
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https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1286365378067783683?s=19
Yankees cheating already.
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this is the perfect year for a pitcher to need/have TJ surgery done
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The replies
https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1286480954412892166?s=19
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this is the perfect year for a pitcher to need/have TJ surgery done
Sale/Severino/Syndergaard agree.
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The replies
https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1286480954412892166?s=19
Racist MLB fans coming for racist NFL fans throat
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Racist MLB fans coming for racist NFL fans throat
M-m-m-marxists!
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Happy Opening Day!
xo,
The Toronto Hobos
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Happy Opening Day!
xo,
The Toronto Hobos
Toronto Trotskyists
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looks like it'll be the Buffalo Blue Jays afterall.
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https://twitter.com/JulieZauzmer/status/1286693698999332869?s=19
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looks like it'll be the Buffalo Blue Jays afterall.
I'm not upset about that, I'd rather they were giving money to their affiliate than their competition.
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I'm not upset about that, I'd rather they were giving money to their affiliate than their competition.
the players will hate this
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the players will hate this
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looks like it'll be the Buffalo Blue Jays afterall.
Buffalo Blue Cheese Wings
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https://twitter.com/jared_carrabis/status/1287468272061997056?s=21
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https://twitter.com/ijordanmoore/status/1287464531711725568?s=21
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Eight more players and two coaches with the Miami Marlins have tested positive for COVID-19, as an outbreak has spread throughout their clubhouse and brought the total of cases in recent days to at least 14, sources familiar with the situation tell me and @JesseRogersESPN.
-Passan
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The Marlins' home opener against the Baltimore Orioles tonight has been canceled, sources tell ESPN, as the team remains in Philadelphia and continues to undergo testing.
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ROY Shohei Ohtani didn’t record an out yesterday in his first start back
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Eight more players and two coaches with the Miami Marlins have tested positive for COVID-19, as an outbreak has spread throughout their clubhouse and brought the total of cases in recent days to at least 14, sources familiar with the situation tell me and @JesseRogersESPN.
-Passan
i cant believe they played the game last night. so now philly is also fucked.
its the beginning of the end a week in. wooo florida once again fucks everything up.
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i cant believe they played the game last night. so now philly is also fucked.
its the beginning of the end a week in. wooo florida once again fucks everything up.
Stop being a Marxist
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Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
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6m
About 40 percent of Marlins active players are now positive for Covid. Heard 11 Marlins players have now tested positive. @JesseRogersESPN
and @JeffPassan
first reported 8 new ones which would make 12 of 30.
it's over, grover.
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Stop being a Marxist
IATA is technically a Marxist-Hortonist with Canadian characteristics
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IATA is technically a Marxist-Hortonist with Canadian characteristics
A Tim Hortonsist?
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A Tim Hortonsist?
That's the joke
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tim hortons isnt canadian anymore, burger king owns and ruined them
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https://twitter.com/stick2sports__/status/1287780139208712193
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https://twitter.com/JakeM0NTGOMERY/status/1287751936301826050
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https://twitter.com/JakeM0NTGOMERY/status/1287751936301826050
lol
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PHILADELPHIA—Lamenting that it was just not the same without the communal atmosphere of a live game, thousands of Phillies fans reported Monday that the closing of Citizens Bank Park has forced them to be content verbally threatening their friends and family. “I’m glad baseball is back, but screaming at my daughter to sit the freak down is a poor substitute for the experience of harassing strangers at a ballpark,” said local fan Mike D’Amato, who revealed that without the outlet of going to see baseball live, he had to spend the afternoon whipping beer bottles at his dog and intentional bumping into his son before challenging him to a fight. “Live games just have this energy you can’t replicate. When I shove my kid into a wall and threaten to put him in a wheelchair for life, it doesn’t have the same sense of excitement as it does with another fan. Sure, I can still get drunk, but yelling ‘homo’ at my wife isn’t as fulfilling as yelling from the stands at Juan Soto.”
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Hahaha
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https://twitter.com/phitter72/status/1288072125522288640?s=19
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are any of us surprised that the first sport to come back and get hit like this is the mlb?
what can fans of baseball do to try and remove rob manfred from baseball
guy is always on TV either saying 'trust me/trust us' or 'i only wish i could something about ____' - type statements, and the results and following events are always bad
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what can fans of baseball do to try and remove rob manfred from baseball
They can buy a majority of the teams in the league and elect a new commissioner. He's the guy the owners picked, he's doing what they want, and he's very conveniently taking the heat for them.
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The MLB has a excrement plan in place, but there was never gonna be a viable plan to play in coronavirus other than grip it and rip it.
I see a lot of people complaining about Manfred’s incompetence (he is horrible), but not many realistic solutions.
The same people complaining were the ones dying to have the sport come back as soon as possible.
This is not directed at DS, more Facebook/Twitter fans.
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@Ken_Rosenthal
Marlins have had four additional players test positive, sources tell The Athletic.
@lindseyadler
MLB source confirms that tonight’s Yankees-Phillies game has been postponed. Some Phillies players are still waiting for test results.
@Ken_Rosenthal
In team vote, vast majority of Nationals players voted against going to Miami for three-game series this weekend, sources tell The Athletic. Decision will rest with MLB.
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manfred is gonna force the nats to play against their wishes and medical advice 100%, hes a real leader.
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The Marlins have had more positive tests in the last two days than the entire city of Toronto.
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Is it at all surprising that the Marlins were the first team to implode? All it takes is one guy in the entire organization--player, coach, or staff--to go out partying and boom, you've got yourself an outbreak.
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https://twitter.com/ConnorNewcomb_/status/1288261860802822144?s=09
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The Philadelphia Phillies have canceled workouts today after a coach and clubhouse attendant tested positive for coronavirus. Activities are shut down “until further notice,” according to the team.
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They should just contract the Phillies organization. And just to be safe, do it with Boston and Houston as well.
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Shane Bieber is DOMINATING
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Cards-Brewers postponed due to covid
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Shane Bieber is DOMINATING
His K cut up from yesterday was outstanding
Cleveland’s farm has been insane at producing SP recently
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Phillies have had no positive tests in three days and believe the two they did have were false.
Looks like the Marlins are the only problematic team, and they haven't had any new positives for a couple of days.
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Phillies have had no positive tests in three days and believe the two they did have were false.
Looks like the Marlins are the only problematic team, and they haven't had any new positives for a couple of days.
https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1290011283387895809?s=21
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https://twitter.com/NYDNSports/status/1290025360529260545?s=19
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https://twitter.com/NYDNSports/status/1290025360529260545?s=19
lmfao
as much as i revel in the ineptitude of the franchise, all of the blame here can't be laid upon them; rob manfred deserves a lot of credit. something like this could only happen to the mets though
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https://twitter.com/barstoolstweets/status/1291722588486602752?s=21
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https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1295353377073897472?s=21
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#Tigers announce Casey Mize, Tarik Skubal and Isaac Paredes will make their MLB debuts this week.
Believe those guys are all top 100 prospects. 1st two are pitchers
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https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1295353377073897472?s=21
https://twitter.com/1clebaseballfan/status/1292985868257505288?s=21
-Clevinger, after Plesac got outed, but before everyone knew he was also at the bar
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Oliver Perez threatened to opt out if the Indians brought back Clevinger or Plesac
I wonder if they’re done there
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Oliver Perez threatened to opt out if the Indians brought back Clevinger or Plesac
I wonder if they’re done there
Lindor's pissed as well. I can't see them getting cut though, it's just an idiotic discipline issue. Just got to serve their time on the naughty step.
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Lindor's pissed as well. I can't see them getting cut though, it's just an idiotic discipline issue. Just got to serve their time on the naughty step.
Nah, not cut. Clevinger was already a speculative trade target.
Plesac did an Instagram live where he blamed the media for how they’re portrayed.
This whole thing is a mess. Now the latest talk is that Indians aim to keep them at the alternate site long enough to rob them of a year of service time.
I guess you’d have to be in the locker room to get a better sense of how everyone feels.
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https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1296239825788579842?s=21
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https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1296239825788579842?s=21
I feel like KC isn't exactly a magnet for the gay community.
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I feel like KC isn't exactly a magnet for the gay community.
I didn’t understand that comment at all but figured I was missing something
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I didn’t understand that comment at all but figured I was missing something
#4 on the list of most underrated LGBTQ destinations, apparently.
https://www.tripsavvy.com/underrated-in-america-for-gay-travelers-1417711
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#4 on the list of most underrated LGBTQ destinations, apparently.
https://www.tripsavvy.com/underrated-in-america-for-gay-travelers-1417711
7 - New Haven, CT? It’s very artsy and it has Yale, a lot of museum and history attractions, etc.
It’s also know for having a severe AIDS problem within the inner city. I had always heard it was because of the rampant Heroin scene, but the google also tells me this:
“Merceditas Villanueva, an infectious disease specialist and director of the AIDS program at Yale-New Haven hospital, said that of approximately 1.5 million Americans reported to be living with the disease, 10,574 are in Connecticut and 1,536 live in New Haven. New Haven has the second-highest prevalence and rate of AIDS infections in the state, after Hartford.
Gerald Friedland, a doctor at Yale-New Haven Hospital, said New Haven is one of 15 U.S. cities where AIDS is the leading cause of death for both men and women.
“For a small state, we have a large number of cases,” Villanueva said. “It predominantly affects people of colour, so it’s an issue of racial disparity, and that’s typical of inner cities.”
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https://twitter.com/baueroutage/status/1296273667060572160?s=21
Context:
Bauer was told by MLB he would be removed from the game and fined if he wore these
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https://twitter.com/trevorpeterstv/status/1296254722299645952?s=21
Baahahaha
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Seattle has one of the more impressive cardboard crowds I've seen.
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Brewers and Reds are striking tonight.
EDIT: Seattle also discussing boycotting tonight.
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Giants walked off the field. Probably because Kershaw was pitching tonight.
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Ben Nicholson-Smith
@bnicholsonsmith
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Taijuan Walker, 28, has a 4.00 ERA through five starts with Mariners. 25 Ks, 8 BB in 27 innings. Fastball averages 93 mph. He also throws a slider, splitter/change and curve. He's earning $2 million this year and will hit free agency after the season ends #BlueJays
Player to be named later heading back to Seattle in the deal. Good trade for us, we lost 3 starters to injury last week.
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https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1299101670908088322?s=20
whoa
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Holy freak if this leads to Manfred leaving and someone who knows what baseball is, maybe it's all worth it in the end.
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https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1299101670908088322?s=20
whoa
That is...wow.
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https://twitter.com/timbritton/status/1299124366425325570?s=21
Bahahhahahahhahahaha
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https://twitter.com/timbritton/status/1299124366425325570?s=21
Bahahhahahahhahahaha
And yet I’d still rather not watch baseball than root for the Yankees.
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And yet I’d still rather not watch baseball than root for the Yankees.
I don’t think that’s true. I feel bad for the fans that root for the Jets and the baseball Jets.
Not sure what that has to do with what I posted though.
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ive rooted for the yankees once, 2001 when they lost to the dbacks
i felt gross but ya know, america, etc...
wilpon is cancer and i hope he gets it and sells already
brody should have just said "ya it wasnt him this time, but he fucked the game already and should go regardless"
freak manfred
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I don’t think that’s true. I feel bad for the fans that root for the Jets and the baseball Jets.
Not sure what that has to do with what I posted though.
I'm currently doing neither since I cancelled my Sling account and don't have an antenna for local games so I guess it was true.
And I don't know why I said that, doesn't make any sense, but I'm owning it.
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ive rooted for the yankees once, 2001 when they lost to the dbacks
i felt gross but ya know, america, etc...
wilpon is cancer and i hope he gets it and sells already
brody should have just said "ya it wasnt him this time, but he fucked the game already and should go regardless"
freak manfred
The world would be a better place if the Yankees won the 2001 WS and the Pats lost the 2001 SB.
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https://twitter.com/pitchingninja/status/1301349249611902978?s=21
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https://twitter.com/pitchingninja/status/1301349249611902978?s=21
That second strike is so dirty
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That second strike is so dirty
Ball got sucked into a vortex
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Jays are tied with the Yanks in the standings. This is gonna be a fun September.
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Mike Trout just tied Tim Salmon as the Angels’ all-time leader in HRs at 299.
Fish joke
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Mike Trout just tied Tim Salmon as the Angels’ all-time leader in HRs at 299.
Fish joke
Did Kevin Bass play for the Angels?
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Did Kevin Bass play for the Angels?
Milwaukee Brewers (1982)
Houston Astros (1982–1989)
San Francisco Giants (1990–1992)
New York Mets (1992)
Houston Astros (1993–1994)
Baltimore Orioles (1995)
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can we make a thread arguing about how annoying the strike zone box is? get it tf out of there
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can we make a thread arguing about how annoying the strike zone box is? get it tf out of there
You're entitled to your wrong opinion.
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You're entitled to your wrong opinion.
i can make this go longer than the DH thread if you're down
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can we make a thread arguing about how annoying the strike zone box is? get it tf out of there
It needs to be there for Angel Hernandez
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can we make a thread arguing about how annoying the strike zone box is? get it tf out of there
With you on that. It's up there with the glowing hockey puck from the mid 90s.
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I hate the strikezone box. Always have.
The one the Yankees are using now is a lot better though. It's pretty light so it's easier to ignore, but it still sucks.
The DH, however, is obviously the best innovation in the game since someone rounded out a stick of wood to hit the ball with.
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Friday (9/11) update........4th inning....Mets just had a 10-run inning an now lead 14-1 over the Bluejays.
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Friday (9/11) update........4th inning....Mets just had a 10-run inning an now lead 14-1 over the Bluejays.
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Don't worry babbie.....Bo Bichette and the "Mexican Powerhouse" Alejandro Kirk will be in the lineup tonight.
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Alex Dickerson tested positive on the Giants, causing at least friday and saturday to be postponed, and likely sunday tba.
no update on a retest, hopefully just a false positive but well see...
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Bob Nightengale
@BNightengale
The #SFGiants player who had a positive Covid-19 test has since had two negative tests and if everything is clear tonight, the #SFGiants and #Padres will play a doubleheader Sunday.
dang ol covid
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Bob Nightengale
@BNightengale
The #SFGiants player who had a positive Covid-19 test has since had two negative tests and if everything is clear tonight, the #SFGiants and #Padres will play a doubleheader Sunday.
dang ol covid
This is actually big for me, I have Cronenworth, Lamet, Rosenthal, Pomeranz and Yaz in fantasy and today is the last day of the regular season. Thought I was gonna have to take the L on those players
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cubs alec bell gets the second no-no of the year against the brewers
pujols hit homer 660
reds sonny gray to the dl. dudes having a great year, but this probly spells the end for the reds getting into the playoffs
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(https://i.imgur.com/MLeYb7R.png)
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https://twitter.com/jared_carrabis/status/1306683679549394950?s=21
Anyone kicking dirt on home plate is an automatic post
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https://twitter.com/jared_carrabis/status/1306683679549394950?s=21
Anyone kicking dirt on home plate is an automatic post
would be interesting to see a list of the most insecure and/or feeble-minded participants in sports. mine would start with mlb umpires and placekickers
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https://twitter.com/talkinbaseball_/status/1308928907358466048?s=21
Pitcher equivalent of pimping a HR
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https://twitter.com/talkinbaseball_/status/1308928907358466048?s=21
Pitcher equivalent of pimping a HR
https://twitter.com/pitchingninja/status/1308936200128991234?s=21
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https://twitter.com/pitchingninja/status/1308936200128991234?s=21
oof
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Shame these sub .500 bums made the playoffs.
https://twitter.com/AsteriskTour/status/1310361581725900801
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Would be just like the Dodgers to go 43-17 and then drop out in a 2 game series. Hope not.
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LOL (https://public.tableau.com/views/MLBdataworking/AstrosHitting?:language=en&:embed=y&:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link&:showVizHome=no)
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LOL (https://public.tableau.com/views/MLBdataworking/AstrosHitting?:language=en&:embed=y&:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link&:showVizHome=no)
Holy excrement. Posting this in the correct thread for historical accuracy
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Most ever baseball playoff games in 1 day today
8 total
First game at 12:08 EST, last game at 10:08 EST
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...last game at 10:08 EST
That's what I'm talking about.
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Hey MB, let me know when it's time to start cheering for the Blue Jays.
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Hey MB, let me know when it's time to start cheering for the Blue Jays.
next March
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Dodgers-Padres was intense last night. Dustin May starts Game 3 tonight.
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https://twitter.com/jared_carrabis/status/1315861519494795264?s=21
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https://twitter.com/jomboy_/status/1315855700585742336?s=21
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https://twitter.com/jared_carrabis/status/1315861519494795264?s=21
The media was on one last night
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why the freak were his pants so tight tho
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why the freak were his pants so tight tho
Easy, Cakes.
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I can't help but notice the bulge it's right there what else do you look at on a pitcher!?!
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https://twitter.com/mike_petriello/status/1315989914790563840?s=21
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Saw most of the game, no idea what anyone is talking about.
Kershaw a scratch for tonight, that's never good.
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back spasms again, thats a bummer.
if the dodgers lose tonight and he misses the series, boy thats gonna not be a bright spot for his legacy
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back spasms again, thats a bummer.
if the dodgers lose tonight and he misses the series, boy thats gonna not be a bright spot for his legacy
Roberts saying he can probably pitch during the series, just not tonight. I'm glad the short series are over, if we're the better team it's to our advantage to play best of 7.
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Roberts saying he can probably pitch during the series, just not tonight. I'm glad the short series are over, if we're the better team it's to our advantage to play best of 7.
Oh that's right, forgot we were back in a normal series finally.
That 5 game excrement was wack af
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Oh that's right, forgot we were back in a normal series finally.
That 5 game excrement was wack af
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The best of 3 vs the Brewers was even more scary. Only difference now, except for the neutral site, is no days off in between games 2/3 and 5/6.
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https://twitter.com/omarinbcsd/status/1316115768996552704?s=21
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Roberts burning up the whole staff in a game we have no chance, and there's no days off. Smart.
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Roberts burning up the whole staff in a game we have no chance, and there's no days off. Smart.
Almost came back and won lol.
Still down 0-2, when does Seton Hall start?
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if the dodgers get swept out, roberts has to be fired
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Kershaw will make it back just in time to get blamed for everything.
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Kershaw will make it back just in time to get blamed for everything.
hopefully you guys can put it together for more than 1 inning
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hopefully you guys can put it together for more than 1 inning
Have to get tonight. Big start for Urias.
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hopefully you guys can put it together for more than 1 inning
Then again, maybe 1 inning would just be fine
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Then again, maybe 1 inning would just be fine
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LOL guess we're not freaking around tonight.
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I enjoyed watching the 1st inning deluge. I'll be rooting for the NL champ regardless.
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https://twitter.com/silk_wood5/status/1317644665798217729?s=21
Not mlb
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thank god, freak the astros
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go braves, i guess
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Knocking out the rest of a Jameson bottle in advance of Game 7.
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Knocking out the rest of a Jameson bottle in advance of Game 7.
Tommy?
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Tommy?
Lol, what was left in the bottle made it kind of a double +.
freak it man, Game 7.
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Knocking out the rest of a Jameson bottle in advance of Game 7.
Best of luck to your boys
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Nothing like a game 7.
Pretty wild we got 2 of them in the CS
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Bellinger launches a nuke off of former Yankees great Chris Martin to put the Dodgers up 4-3 in the bottom of the 7th
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Lol Bellinger dislocated his shoulder doing forearm smashes during his HR victory celebration in front of the dugout
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Go Dodgers Go
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go rays
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Wow.
I feel like a lot has been accomplished today. I can breathe again.
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gonna root for los doyers
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gonna root for los doyers
Word
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freak both teams
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freak both teams
I'm sure the Buffalo Blue Jays will be back strong next year.
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Game 1 tonight.
Fun fact, Oct 20, 1988 was the night LA last won the World Series. Also the night Mark Gastineau retired, on a Thursday night, out of nowhere.
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Codyyyyy
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Bellinger tank job
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Random mlb thought:
It might not be next year, maybe the year after, but the Marlins will be #good soon. Their rotation will be ready to compete next year.
Sandy Alcantara and Pablo Lopez locked in as the 1-2.
Sixto Sanchez looks absolutley filthy.
Elieser Hernandez was surprisingly effective this season. We’ll see if it was just a small sample size.
Their top SP prospect Edward Cabrera to compete for the #5 spot with prospect Nick Neidert, the main piece in the Dee Gordon trade a few years ago.
The lineup is a couple years behind that but they have several of their top position players starting to come up - Jazz Chisholm and Jesus Sanchez. They also finally have an ok cast of vets surrounding the young guys - Jesus Aguilar, Corey Dickerson, Villar, Starling Marte.
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sixto sanchez, what an elite name for a latin starting pitcher. without knowing anything about him, he is going straight to the very top
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sixto sanchez, what an elite name for a latin starting pitcher. without knowing anything about him, he is going straight to the very top
He throws over 100 mph with insane movement
He was the top piece in the JT Realmuto trade
https://twitter.com/pitchingninja/status/1301314105308045318?s=21
https://twitter.com/jared_carrabis/status/1299504553444999168?s=21
https://twitter.com/starting9/status/1312105033614323713?s=21
And he has the swag
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Save some runs for the rest of the series guys
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One down. Happy for Kershaw, glad we got him some runs. If Belinger keeps heating up we win.
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https://twitter.com/3945lifegoals/status/1319088937617510400?s=21
How I’m watching the game tonight
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https://twitter.com/3945lifegoals/status/1319088937617510400?s=21
How I’m watching the game tonight
Cannot retrieve tweet at this time
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Cannot retrieve tweet at this time
Good
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Good
You really need to use more screenshots.
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Justin Turner looks like Ginger Nick Mangold
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Jesus freaking Christ
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What an ending
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Hell of a game. So many back and forths.
Mims shouldn't have made that error in center. Not executing.
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what a dogshit ending
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what a dogshit ending
Yeah. Didn't feel good about it going into B9, knew it wasn't going to be a quick inning.
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No idea why he's taking Kershaw out at 85 pitches with 2 out in the 6th with a 4-2 lead. Just got 2 guys on 2 pitches. He did this in 2018 Game 4 with a lead, took Hill out, cost us the game.
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Survived. Whew!
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Survived. Whew!
Nice. I actually forgot about the game until I saw your post, spent the evening catching up on tv and now SNF.
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freak You Glasnow
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Gonsolin tonight for the Dodgers. Everyone available except Kershaw, Buhler and Urias.
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I can't believe they're taking this Snell guy out. Holy excrement. Thank you, Tampa manager. I don't know if we'll score but we weren't going to beat that guy. Wow.
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Aaaaaaand, we're ahead. Wow.
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kevin cash pulled a dusty baker 2002
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I can't believe they're taking this Snell guy out. Holy excrement. Thank you, Tampa manager. I don't know if we'll score but we weren't going to beat that guy. Wow.
Had to save him for game 7 obviously
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2020 just gets worst and worst
congrats seafood
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2020 just gets worst and worst
congrats seafood
It's good actually
freak Tampa, back to the drawing board for more manufactured rivalry bullshit for 2021
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I think Rob Manfred is having a stroke on tv
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2020 just gets worst and worst
congrats seafood
Thanks man. I get it, appreciate it. NL West in the house.
I think Rob Manfred is having a stroke on tv
Yeah, what was that? How'd he get that job?
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Congrats on the title* ;)
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The Dodgers roster covered in Justin Turner covid AIDS.
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https://twitter.com/jared_tims/status/1321300139923877889?s=21
Beautiful
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The Dodgers roster covered in Justin Turner covid AIDS.
Everyone is going to be just fine. Turner almost homered his last time up. #hype
https://twitter.com/jared_tims/status/1321300139923877889?s=21
Beautiful
Those post game speeches were a bore. I've waited 17 years for one of my teams to win something and I almost turned it off.
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https://twitter.com/mlbonfox/status/1321317292194426882?s=21
2020 in a nutshell
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“When told by MLB security that he had to leave, a person familiar with the matter said, Turner refused. He continued to share space not just with other players... but with his teammates’ spouses, children and other family members”
How much are they gonna get fined for this
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How much are they gonna get fined for this
Manfred will give their title to Houston
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Man, if the Dodgers had lost and then Turner was gone for g7 and they lost again, the conspiracies would be freaking crazy.
Too bad
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https://twitter.com/jared_tims/status/1321300139923877889?s=21
Beautiful
Personally I would be too happy celebrating to boo the man but I guess a lot of the people there were neutral fans
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https://twitter.com/jomboy_/status/1321296915137527810?s=21
Only horse I really had in this race other than the Rays losing, I’m happy for Kershaw
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Personally I would be too happy celebrating to boo the man but I guess a lot of the people there were neutral fans
He’s Goodell level bad or worse so he deserves to be booed any time the fans have the opportunity, which is not often.
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He’s Goodell level bad or worse so he deserves to be booed any time the fans have the opportunity, which is not often.
I normally don't stay tuned for trophy presentations unless my team wins, which is almost never. I do remember Bettman always getting booed when he would come out with the Stanley Cup back in the day. The first time the Devils won I was there and booed him, at that time it looked like the Devils were moving to Nashville and the fans were pissed at him. But I've noticed other fans do it too, so I thought maybe that was just a hockey fan thing.
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https://twitter.com/sean_forman/status/1321278576436588546?s=21
Analytics are ruing the game!
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https://twitter.com/sean_forman/status/1321278576436588546?s=21
Analytics are ruing the game!
They have their place, particularly in the regular season, but in a situation like last night you have to look at the game in front of you and trust your eyes. That guy threw 73 pitches and we weren't touching him. Get a guy ready if you like, but he might have pitched a complete game the way he was going.
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They have their place, particularly in the regular season, but in a situation like last night you have to look at the game in front of you and trust your eyes. That guy threw 73 pitches and we weren't touching him. Get a guy ready if you like, but he might have pitched a complete game the way he was going.
The Dodgers used an opener last night
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Also, before this thread is derailed: analytics do not suggest taking Snell out in that spot. They also don’t suggest putting in Nick Anderson, who has struggled all postseason. Kevin Cash just made a stupid freaking decision.
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The Dodgers used an opener last night
Not on purpose. They've done it a few times, I'm not against it, but the way Snell was throwing we couldn't freak around last night with Gonsolin or anyone else. I was worried we went through so many guys so early, if the game ended up going extras I guess May would have had to go in and stay in.
Also, before this thread is derailed: analytics do not suggest taking Snell out in that spot. They also don’t suggest putting in Nick Anderson, who has struggled all postseason. Kevin Cash just made a stupid freaking decision.
I'll buy that. I was shocked, enough that I posted here in real time because I was pretty sure what was going to happen next. If I waited it would have just been hindsight.
On a side note, my teams have a very odd history of success in shortened seasons:
1981 Dodgers, won World Series
1982 Jets, reached AFC Championship game
1995 Devils, won Stanley Cup
1999 Knicks, reached NBA Finals
2020 Dodgers, won World Series
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https://twitter.com/jomboy_/status/1321296915137527810?s=21
Only horse I really had in this race other than the Rays losing, I’m happy for Kershaw
very good
now do jake degrom
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Not on purpose. They've done it a few times, I'm not against it, but the way Snell was throwing we couldn't freak around last night with Gonsolin or anyone else.
I was worried we went through so many guys so early,
if the game ended up going extras I guess May would have had to go in and stay in.
Dave Roberts probably went by committee in gm 6 knowing he had that Forrest Buehler guy for game 7. Either way the better team won.
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Dave Roberts probably went by committee in gm 6 knowing he had that Forrest Buehler guy for game 7. Either way the better team won.
Yeah, LA gave them a game and still won in 6.
Most of the pitchers didn't go long, so they'd have all been available for a Game 7, including then also Kershaw for a short time. I was thinking if Game 6 got tied and went long, we had Jansen who is good for an inning or two, and May who is a starter and could probably last in a long game for a while. The new 3-batter rule probably saves Roberts from himself in games like this.
Also, thinking about this, I'm so happy Kershaw not only gets a ring but was a big part of the Series, won 2 games. I kind of equate him to late 90s Ewing, with the team around him stronger while he's still good but not dominant. Buehler would be the Houston or Sprewell by comparison.
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https://twitter.com/br_mlb/status/1321865015763283975?s=21
This is insane
We are gonna witness a weird offseason
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Tony LaRussa's walking corpse is the new Chisox manager.
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Justin Turner and his wife weren't allowed to take the plane home with the rest of the organization. Wonder how hard MLB will come down on him.
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Justin Turner and his wife weren't allowed to take the plane home with the rest of the organization. Wonder how hard MLB will come down on him.
That makes sense. There are a lot of options to fly home, one chance in a lifetime to celebrate winning a World Series with your team on the field. Even if you want give us 2017 in retrospect, they never got to celebrate the win. They had to walk off and live with a loss.
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https://twitter.com/tylerkepner/status/1322032388566880256?s=21
“Not high...during the games” you say
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https://twitter.com/ckurcon/status/1322235201234345984?s=21
This is wild
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https://twitter.com/tylerkepner/status/1322032388566880256?s=21
“Not high...during the games” you say
Haha, people have always said that about Belinger. Tell you what, if he is, I want what he's smoking the next time I get on a basketball court, if that ever happens.
https://twitter.com/ckurcon/status/1322235201234345984?s=21
This is wild
That is crazy.
The way Snell was throwing, I don't know, I've seen it go that way a million times. And he's a former Cy Young winner, so it's not like he hasn't had sustained success before. I understand about the third time through the lineup, but it would take more than a one-out single for me to take him out on 73 pitches. They asked Betts what he thought as he was about to hit, he said "I felt like I have a chance now". He struck out his first two times up, guys were starting to try and bunt. Man, I don't know.
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https://twitter.com/br_mlb/status/1321865015763283975?s=21
This is insane
We are gonna witness a weird offseason
“ Not one team claimed Brad Hand for $10M. He was a top 3 finalist for AL reliever of the year with a 0.77 WHIP. and 16 saves. Time to revise free agent contract projections downward! (Hand is now a free agent after Indians then declined the $10M option and paid $1M buyout.)”
Welp
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Cleveland, strapped for money, intend to trade All-Star shortstop Francisco Lindor by opening day, several rival teams have been informed. Lindor earned $17.5 million last season and is projected to earn about $21 million in salary arbitration in his final year before free agency
- the Legend Bob Nightengale
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- the Legend Bob Nightengale
What a pathetic team.
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What a pathetic team.
Rockies owner Dick Monfort sent a letter to season ticket holders today that said, in part: "There will be nothing normal about this offseason as the industry faces a new economic reality."
Rockies have been the other team along with the Indians that have been rumored they could undergo big payroll cuts.
Nolan Arenado and Trevor Story are the 2 big names I’ve seen mentioned.
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In fairness to Cleveland, they're paying good money to get eliminated in the first couple of rounds of the playoffs every year.
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In fairness to Cleveland, they're paying good money to get eliminated in the first couple of rounds of the playoffs every year.
so are you guys.
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Amazing Ryu and Maeta were both Cy Young finalists, the Dodgers let them both go and still won the World Series.
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so are you guys.
alcs or bust
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Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
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Breaking: Alex Cora is back as Red Sox manager
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Pretty sweet News dump strategy for hiring a cheater
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Pretty sweet News dump strategy for hiring a cheater
Haha not only on a Friday but the same day the election is being called. PR masterminds.
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https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1325982315823116288
Just an absolute chef's kiss to the ridiculous La Russa hire.
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ESPN obtained the full arrest report for Chicago White Sox manager Tony La Russa's DUI charge.
"Do you see my ring?" La Russa said to the arresting officer. "I'm a Hall of Famer baseball person. I'm legit. I'm a Hall of Famer, brother."
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The Miami Marlins are hiring Kim Ng as their new general manager, making her Major League Baseball's first female and first Asian American GM, the team announced Friday.
Ng has most recently served as MLB's senior vice president of baseball operations for the past nine years. She has also served as assistant general manager for the New York Yankees and Los Angeles Dodgers.
Kim Hnggggg
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https://twitter.com/aubrey_huff/status/1327321686736130048?s=21
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Jon Morosi
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BREAKING: Theo Epstein has resigned as @Cubs
president of baseball operations. @MLB
@MLBNetwork
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damn its been 9 years already.
looks like hes gonna take some time away from baseball, good.
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uhh
bring theo to the mets NOW
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maybe thats why theyre keeping sandy around this year, to pay theo a dumptruck of money to fix em next year
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maybe thats why theyre keeping sandy around this year, to pay theo a dumptruck of money to fix em next year
from what i understand there are different 'tiers' to the structure of the new mets FO, with cohen at the top, sandy as 'president', and a 'president of baseball operations'??? sort of role underneath that. i think that's a situation where sandy and theo could both be in the FO at the same time
i think theo would fit in very well with the way cohen wants to start running the team, with sandy being an advisor and a voice that resonates with the more 'conservative' end of the moneyball mantra. i hope he considers coming to the mets but if he really needs a year, i think we'll look at him very strongly next year
it feels weird reading about the mets actually having interest in the top/most expensive FA pool
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it feels weird reading about the mets actually having interest in the top/most expensive FA pool
I am happy that my Mets fan brothers get to correctly experience being a fan of a big market team.
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from what i understand there are different 'tiers' to the structure of the new mets FO, with cohen at the top, sandy as 'president', and a 'president of baseball operations'??? sort of role underneath that. i think that's a situation where sandy and theo could both be in the FO at the same time
i think theo would fit in very well with the way cohen wants to start running the team, with sandy being an advisor and a voice that resonates with the more 'conservative' end of the moneyball mantra. i hope he considers coming to the mets but if he really needs a year, i think we'll look at him very strongly next year
it feels weird reading about the mets actually having interest in the top/most expensive FA pool
One of theos reported problems was that he didn't like the restrictions the Ricketts placed on him.
He wants, and will very easily get, total control.
Sent from fire adam gase.
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Tampa Bay star Randy Arozarena was detained in Mexico after an incident in which he allegedly tried to take his daughter from her mother and assaulted the woman’s father, sources told ESPN, confirming a Yucatán Ahora report. MLB’s Department of Investigations is looking into it.
Randy Arrestarena