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The Rest Of The Sports World => You Don't Know Football => Topic started by: bojanglesman on February 02, 2016, 04:55:49 PM
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http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/colin-kaepernick-49ers-jets-sources-article-1.2518118
Doesn't make any sense. Manish stirring the pot. In his defense, he doesn't say anything about the Jets being interested, so at least he isn't outright lying.
This would have to assume the Jets couldn't reach deal with Fitz, which seems like a virtual lock at this point. Even then, we'd have to give up draft picks and pay him a good deal of money for.... who knows what.
You could say the same about Fitz but at least we've seen him here with this team.
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If we trade for Kaep might as well bring back idzik
Our cap will be fucked for years to come
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freak that noise
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Manish is jtrain.
There's nothing I love more than the taste of cum.
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Not happening for the primary reason that Duff thinks his tattoos are gay af
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Not happening for the primary reason that Duff thinks his tattoos are gay af
I just don't want to look at his weird head every Sunday.
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I just don't want to look at his weird head every Sunday.
Kaep can room with Rontez Head.
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I've made no secret of the fact that I'm a big Kaepernick fan, but unless Maccagnan can work some kind of cap magic I don't see how it would happen. Kaep, Fitz and Petty would give me a chubby though.
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Dom Cosentino @domcosentino 11m11 minutes ago
Source said story about #Jets as Colin Kaepernick's "preferred destination" is not true: http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2016/02/colin_kaepernick_wants_to_leave_san_francisco_49er.html … #nyj
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But whose sources do I believe??
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Dom Cosentino @domcosentino 11m11 minutes ago
Source said story about #Jets as Colin Kaepernick's "preferred destination" is not true: http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2016/02/colin_kaepernick_wants_to_leave_san_francisco_49er.html … #nyj
Makes much more sense. Manish gon Manish doe.
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While I think there's no shot anyone trades for him, I imagine we'll kick the tires once he is released.
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Mehnish being a bundle of sticks as usual
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NY Daily News Sports @NYDNSports 6m6 minutes ago
Jets WR Brandon Marshall: I don’t want Colin Kaepernick ... Ryan Fitzpatrick is my guy http://nydn.us/1PApZJ1
as expected.
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I've made no secret of the fact that I'm a big Kaepernick fan, but unless Maccagnan can work some kind of cap magic I don't see how it would happen. Kaep, Fitz and Petty would give me a chubby though.
This is pretty much how I feel. Kaep is a game-changing QB. He's had a rocky road, but if he had the chance to sit behind Fitz for a year and learn the system and how to lead?
I'd also take Kaepernick long before I took Johnny Football.
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If the 49ers don't mind taking an $8 million hit and Kaep is honest about his financial prospects as a QB with something to prove...still probably not.
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NY Daily News Sports @NYDNSports 6m6 minutes ago
Jets WR Brandon Marshall: I don’t want Colin Kaepernick ... Ryan Fitzpatrick is my guy http://nydn.us/1PApZJ1
as expected.
Brandon Marshall is quickly turning into my favorite Jet receiver ever. It's a short list, too. Actually it only includes Wayne Chrebet.
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NY Daily News Sports @NYDNSports 6m6 minutes ago
Jets WR Brandon Marshall: I don’t want Colin Kaepernick ... Ryan Fitzpatrick is my guy http://nydn.us/1PApZJ1
as expected.
Geno Smith was his guy until he got his jaw broken.
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Geno Smith was his guy until he got his jaw broken.
He's been around a while. He knows how not to ruffle feathers and also how to handle the media. Says all the right things.
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Geno Smith was his guy until he got his jaw broken.
Marshall has legit chemistry with Fitz...so i wont argue against Marshall's feelings.
When it came to geno, pretty sure marshall was towing the company line.
There's nothing I love more than the taste of cum.
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I think Marshall was just playing the "good soldier" with Geno. He made the attempt to have a good rapport with him, and it seemed to have worked. However, he clearly gelled with Fitzpatrick.
Manish won't stop tweeting about his article. He keeps repeating himself incessantly as he always does when someone pokes big holes in his stories.
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I may have to threaten Manish's life again in the comments section or twitter if he keeps this excrement up
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Lpl he had one of his best years ever . Why would he want a new guy throwing to him ?
Lol
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Lpl he had one of his best years ever . Why would he want a new guy throwing to him ?
Lol
Lol though, or no?
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This is probably the first time in his career where Marshall has a guy throwing to him who isn't a complete poopchute and holds himself accountable. Kaepernick sounds like he's one of those assholes.
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This is probably the first time in his career where Marshall has a guy throwing to him who isn't a complete poopchute and holds himself accountable. Kaepernick sounds like he's one of those assholes.
He has such a punchable face too.
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
49ers GM Trent Baalke said Colin Kaepernick will be on roster April 1, when his $11.9M salary for 2016 becomes guaranteed. Kaep's a Niner.
lol Manish.
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MaioccoCSN: Compensation for QB Colin Kaepernick has not yet been good enough for 49ers to make deal, source says. Broncos, Jets and Browns involved.
Buckle up
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Buckle up
Wait...the Jets are involved?
please don't trade away the draft farm, Duff.
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Wait...the Jets are involved?
yes
In order to make it work, we'd probably have to trade them Wilkerson.
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Buckle up
hahaha i just warned MB about this in the Fitz thread only to click this
was just guessing.
damn......this is odd
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yes
In order to make it work, we'd probably have to trade them Wilkerson.
You think Chan can salvage him?
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Meh do not want.
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You think Chan can salvage him?
the kid can freaking play.
he just comes off as shell shocked and the mechanics are still messy. wouldve been nice if he had one more year of coaching under Harbaugh. would probably make trading for him more palatable .
ughhh. I cant call it. the ceiling was absurd when all the right pieces were in place and then he looked like a college QB last couple years.
granted you didnt ask me, but who cares, that has never stopped me before lol
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yes
In order to make it work, we'd probably have to trade them Wilkerson.
Interesting. I wonder what draft picks trade hands which way. Kaep is less expensive than Mo this year.
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You think Chan can salvage him?
It's not like he's completely awful. He just took a step back, but he was pretty far ahead before the regression.
His contract is also not bad.
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for the record if we need to move Mo just to absorb that contract.
freak trading for him
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It's not like he's completely awful. He just took a step back, but he was pretty far ahead before the regression.
His contract is also not bad.
his contract went from bad to great in the first 48 of free agency
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the kid can freaking play.
he just comes off as shell shocked and the mechanics are still messy. wouldve been nice if he had one more year of coaching under Harbaugh. would probably make trading for him more palatable .
ughhh. I cant call it. the ceiling was absurd when all the right pieces were in place and then he looked like a college QB last couple years.
granted you didnt ask me, but who cares, that has never stopped me before lol
It's not like he's completely awful. He just took a step back, but he was pretty far ahead before the regression.
His contract is also not bad.
i know he has the physical tools, but his mental game took a serious beating this year.
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Buckle up
Called it.
Quitting while I'm ahead.
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This could all just be a PR stunt to scare Fitzpatrick too
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I want nothing to do with this guy
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This could all just be a PR stunt to scare Fitzpatrick too
But the guy who leaked the info is a Niners beat reporter.
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i know he has the physical tools, but his mental game took a serious beating this year.
SF OL has been overrated as freak last couple years if you ask me. the WR's are a mess.
Harbaugh did a lot to make it all come together. people just forget because hes a nutjob.
my biggest complaint about him is pocket presence and being flustered. i think the mechanics you can work with. theres something mental going on it looks like to me.
could be blowing up over night to have the whole front office and coaching staff self destruct when you were on the precipice of making the next step in your game as a developmental prospect.
it all depends what it would take to get him.
anything involving Mo is a bad deal IMO.
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This could all just be a PR stunt to scare Fitzpatrick too
im more willing to bet this is just Duff having the ducks lined up in case he actually has to tell Sexton
Well weve got our number and you know what it is. Were not moving on it.
gotta have the contingency plans ready soon as news breaks if he signs elsewhere
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SF OL has been overrated as freak last couple years if you ask me. the WR's are a mess.
Harbaugh did a lot to make it all come together. people just forget because hes a nutjob.
my biggest complaint about him is pocket presence and being flustered. i think the mechanics you can work with. theres something mental going on it looks like to me.
could be blowing up over night to have the whole front office and coaching staff self destruct when you were on the precipice of making the next step in your game as a developmental prospect.
it all depends what it would take to get him.
anything involving Mo is a bad deal IMO.
I'm not crazy about losing high round draft picks either....this team needs to get younger and faster.
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I'm not crazy about losing high round draft picks either....this team needs to get younger and faster.
If we acquired Kaepernick, our QB would be younger and faster.
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Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 36s37 seconds ago
#Browns, #Browns, #Jets in on a potential Colin Kaepernick trade. Big difference in where their 2nd round picks are: Denver's much later
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If we acquired Kaepernick, our QB would be younger and faster.
QFT
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RapSheet: #Browns, #Browns, #Jets in on a potential Colin Kaepernick trade. Big difference in where their 2nd round picks are: Denver's much later
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RapSheet: #Browns, #Browns, #Jets in on a potential Colin Kaepernick trade. Big difference in where their 2nd round picks are: Denver's much later
too slow #scrollup
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Cleveland and Hue Jackson can get him if they want him
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Cleveland and Hue Jackson can get him if they want him
Come to think of it...we're notorious for pissing away our 2nd round picks. This could be a good deal for us if that's what it'll take.
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I don't want to lose Wilk, but doing so to get a potential long term franchise QB would be the least bad way to lose him IMO.
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I don't want to lose Wilk, but doing so to get a potential long term franchise QB would be the least bad way to lose him IMO.
I'm not sure Wilk is on the table.
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Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN 1m1 minute ago
From Jets perspective (and likely Broncos & Browns too), draft compensation is sticking point for Kaepernick. 2nd-rounder likely too steep
if Duff can get Kaep for a 3rd rounder.....he should be given the key to the city.
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No way I'm giving up a second rd pick for this guy
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I'm not sure Wilk is on the table.
I don't see where the money to pay Kaep is coming from without shifting Wilk.
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Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN 1m1 minute ago
From Jets perspective (and likely Broncos & Browns too), draft compensation is sticking point for Kaepernick. 2nd-rounder likely too steep
(http://art.wsj.net/api/photos/gams-files/BN-MF357_2nwqH_M_20160121173956.jpg?width=620&height=413)
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I want Cleveland to get Kaepernick so Jared Goff can slide a little bit. That's where Muhammad Wilkerson would come in handy.
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I don't see where the money to pay Kaep is coming from without shifting Wilk.
He could still be traded, but not necessarily to the Niners. It could happen at the draft.
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I don't see where the money to pay Kaep is coming from without shifting Wilk.
they might have some guys theyre ready to cut if they pull the trigger, or theyre on the phone discussing restructures.
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Revis for Kaep, would Italian Seafood spontaneously combust?
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Broncos are apparently only offering a 3rd for now
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id prefer to not do it to be honest. but it is funny how watching Fitzpatrick run was good.
Kaepernick would give us a heart attack.
2nd rd pick seems steep for a guy they essentially dont want at all.
if it were a 3rd id say freak it lets go. meh. who knows how much of a douchenozzle Sexton is being right now though.
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Revis for Kaep, would Italian Seafood spontaneously combust?
Does IS still wear his "Get it done, Tanny" t-shirt?
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id prefer to not do it to be honest. but it is funny how watching Fitzpatrick run was good.
Kaepernick would give us a heart attack.
2nd rd pick seems steep for a guy they essentially dont want at all.
if it were a 3rd id say freak it lets go. meh. who knows how much of a douchenozzle Sexton is being right now though.
If Fitz's camp caves due to the sudden interest in Kaep....brilliant move by Duff.
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if we trade Revis you know damn well were drafting a CB rd 1 lol
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Kaepernick's contract is a thing of beauty. He could be reasonably cut next year. The only risk is one year at $15 millionish and $4 million dead next year.
Having to look at his head is a different story.
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Does IS still wear his "Get it done, Tanny" t-shirt?
T-shirt, nah he has Tanny's pic in more strategic places, think Tanny nut-hugger.
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If the Browns are going hard after Kaep...guess they don't like Goff or Wentz too much.
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If the Browns are going hard after Kaep...guess they don't like Goff or Wentz too much.
i think Jimmy Haslam's Flying J truck stop employees scout Qb's better than the browns
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i think Jimmy Haslam's Flying J truck stop employees scout Qb's better than the browns
Kelly Holcombe thanks you for this post.
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Kaepernick's contract is a thing of beauty. He could be reasonably cut next year. The only risk is one year at $15 millionish and $4 million dead next year.
Having to look at his head is a different story.
Assuming Fitzpatrick gets a decent contract similar to the other QBs in free agency, we could potentially get a 3rd, or at the very least a 4th round comp pick next year... Trading a 3rd for Kaepernick wouldnt be that big of a blow.
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I'd be very happy to offer the Niners our third round pick plus Geno Smith. Get it done, Mike.
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Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 43s44 seconds ago
If #Jets don't land Colin Kaepernick, expect them to inquire about #Texans QB Brian Hoyer. They already traded for one #Texans QB last year
freak you
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I'd be very happy to offer the Niners our third round pick plus Geno Smith. Get it done, Mike.
This would be robbery
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Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 43s44 seconds ago
If #Jets don't land Colin Kaepernick, expect them to inquire about #Texans QB Brian Hoyer. They already traded for one #Texans QB last year
freak you
Heismanberg would lose his excrement, you know his feelings on bald quarterbacks.
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I'd be very happy to offer the Niners our third round pick plus Geno Smith. Get it done, Mike.
I could dig this.
Although im not sure we would actually want to trade them Geno. Kaep has some question marks surrounding him (as does Geno). At least Geno knows the offense somewhat from a year in the system, and he is athletic enough to be a suitable backup for the type of offense we would run with Kaep.
I think its quite likely Geno would remain a Jet if we make this trade.
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freak trading for hoyer
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i think the Browns are going to get him...they have the stronger draft pick compensation and the cap space.
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i think the Browns are going to get him...they have the stronger draft pick compensation and the cap space.
They could do a swap of first round picks with SF, allowing the Niners to have their pick of Wentz or Goff.
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Kimberly Martin did retweet this...
Jason McIntyreVerified account
@jasonrmcintyre
Team executive NOT connected to Jets or 49ers tells me this Kaepernick-Jets thing is a smokescreen to get Fitzpatrick's asking price down.
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Kimberly Martin did retweet this...
Because Maccagnan called up his buddy on a team not connected to the Jets or the Niners and told him that, right?
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Because Maccagnan called up his buddy on a team not connected to the Jets or the Niners and told him that, right?
Given that we can had to wait a day to get contract figures on Forte, you have to think that tweets a smokescreen.
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Given that we can had to wait a day to get contract figures on Forte, you have to think that tweets a smokescreen.
I think you're a smokescreen.
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I think you're a smokescreen.
Ha.
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I think you're a smokescreen.
What's your point?
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What's your point?
I don't have one.
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Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 43s44 seconds ago
If #Jets don't land Colin Kaepernick, expect them to inquire about #Texans QB Brian Hoyer. They already traded for one #Texans QB last year
freak you
Hoyer is owed $4.86M next season. He would cost a late-round pick.
Fitzpatrick may cost close to $12M, and letting him walk should net us a mid-round pick the following season.
The key with these low-replacement level QBs is to get them on reasonable contracts so they become valuable in offseasons like this one. Hoyer's contract is suddenly a bargain compared to the going rate of quarterback deals.
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Schefter: Should Denver and Colin Kaepernick agree to a restructured contract, Broncos then expected to trade mid-round pick to SF to complete deal.
Still far from done with a contract with him.
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What seems to be clear is that the Broncos have no interest in Fitz. He essentially lost all leverage now.
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They've been so stubborn I won't be surprised if he decides to wait for someone to get hurt in TC.
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They've been so stubborn I won't be surprised if he decides to wait for someone to get hurt in TC.
lol and what get a 5 mil if he's lucky contract, they won't do that.
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Schefter: Further update: Colin Kaepernick trade to Broncos being held up by $4.9 million. Here's how:
https://t.co/aFQucYha3D
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They've been so stubborn I won't be surprised if he decides to wait for someone to get hurt in TC.
It would have to be a team with the cap room to afford him.
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Wake me up when it's training camp.
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lol and what get a 5 mil if he's lucky contract, they won't do that.
It would be stupid but so was thinking 16 million was going to happen.
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At this point Fitz and his agent are probably waiting til after the draft
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Bleacher Report's Jason Cole reports Colin Kaepernick will not be traded to the Broncos.
Per Cole, Kaepernick will not take a pay cut, and the 49ers refuse to "pay off part of deal to make trade happen." You should never say never in the high-stakes game of NFL negotiations, but it appears the 49ers and Kap are now working toward a reconciliation. Kap reported for the start of the team's offseason program on Monday. By staying in San Francisco, Kap would be locking himself into $14.3 million between salary and bonuses. He's probably decided it's worth gambling on himself for 2016.
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Get the freak out
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This was in response to the Bleacher report thing.
Mike Klis: Broncos trade talks regarding @Kaepernick7 still on. Just stalemated on who pays what of his $14.3M contract. #9news #9sports
Btw switch an s out with a t and this reporter has the greatest name in the history of ever.
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This was in response to the Bleacher report thing.
Btw switch an s out with a t and this reporter has the greatest name in the history of ever.
Why not just stick a "t" in there and be done with it.
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lol
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/27/kaepernick-refuses-to-show-pride-in-a-country-that-oppresses-black-people/
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lol
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/27/kaepernick-refuses-to-show-pride-in-a-country-that-oppresses-black-people/
What a tool. He sucks and makes more money than 99% of his team's fans and he talks about inequality.
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Maybe he's just bitter he lost his job to a white man
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What a tool. He sucks and makes more money than 99% of his team's fans and he talks about inequality.
What does his income have to do with his principles?
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What does his income have to do with his principles?
He's saying minorities are being oppressed but makes millions of dollars.
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He's saying minorities are being oppressed but makes millions of dollars.
He didn't say anything about how much they earn. Are you trying to say that minorities aren't oppressed because he makes millions for throwing a football, or are you saying that because he's a millionaire he should stay quiet? I'm confused as to your point.
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He didn't say anything about how much they earn. Are you trying to say that minorities aren't oppressed because he makes millions for throwing a football, or are you saying that because he's a millionaire he should stay quiet? I'm confused as to your point.
He should stay quiet because he's a backup QB and a scrub
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He stayed quiet while he was sitting through the anthems the first two games. Then someone finally noticed he was doing a thing.
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He stayed quiet while he was sitting through the anthems the first two games. Then someone finally noticed he was doing a thing.
Wasn't he injured though?
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He didn't say anything about how much they earn. Are you trying to say that minorities aren't oppressed because he makes millions for throwing a football, or are you saying that because he's a millionaire he should stay quiet? I'm confused as to your point.
The fact that minorities can earn millions in more ways than one, become elected officials, even the highest one, is proof enough that they're not being "oppressed". Asians are minorities, too. Are they being oppressed? He's a tool for saying that.
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I'm biased against Kaepernick because of his weird head.
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I'm biased against Kaepernick because of his weird head.
He also has a very punchable face.
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and he's dumb.
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and he's dumb.
Dumb is an understatement.
I understand athletes will say their piece and do stupid freaking excrement. But you dont do it in a contract year.
This guy is in the midst of losing his job to a not very good QB. And had the opportunity to get a monster payday. In addition to playing bad hes saying/doing stupid excrement like this.
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Who gives a excrement?
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At this point there could just be a bot that posts everyone's reactions to anything race related.
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What does his income have to do with his principles?
Its only ok for rich white politicians who are out of touch with their constituents to pretend to have morals and values .
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At this point there could just be a bot that posts everyone's reactions to anything race related.
This. Oh lord this
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He didn't say anything about how much they earn. Are you trying to say that minorities aren't oppressed because he makes millions for throwing a football, or are you saying that because he's a millionaire he should stay quiet? I'm confused as to your point.
Here's a pretty good reason he should keep his mouth shut
http://deadspin.com/why-did-colin-kaepernick-receive-an-inappropriate-lang-1634796683
First player to get an inappropriate language penalty for (allegedly) calling a player a freaking nbomb
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Doubt he's pulling this excrement if he's the starting QB. freak off, poopchute.
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Kaepernick looks like a gypsy
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Kaepernick looks like a gypsy
He looks like a lot of things. All of them are bad.
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What a bizarre and haphazard little protest. It doesn't seem like he really has a clue what he's doing or any real conviction. That has nothing to do with his wealth. It just seems like a stupid and convenient way to make a point, which makes me question whether he really cares.
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The fact that minorities can earn millions in more ways than one, become elected officials, even the highest one, is proof enough that they're not being "oppressed". Asians are minorities, too. Are they being oppressed? He's a tool for saying that.
Retarded as always. Kaepernick is a tool. The fact that he's rich doesn't mean that certain minorities aren't oppressed. Asians absolutely faced brutal oppression here, but much like the Irish and Eastern Europeans, they were relieved of that oppression as the number of minorities grew. Those two groups weren't considered White until absolutely necessary. A lot of sociologists will tell you that Asians are the next group likely to earn White status. Blacks are the only group that will never be invited to the table as a whole.
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Retarded as always. Kaepernick is a tool. The fact that he's rich doesn't mean that certain minorities aren't oppressed. Asians absolutely faced brutal oppression here, but much like the Irish and Eastern Europeans, they were relieved of that oppression as the number of minorities grew. Those two groups weren't considered White until absolutely necessary. A lot of sociologists will tell you that Asians are the next group likely to earn White status. Blacks are the only group that will never be invited to the table as a whole.
We keep going through the same fuckn argument. Stereotypes and prejudices exist, and blacks get the brunt of them, but nowadays it's more a result of crime rates and ghetto culture rather than people honestly believing that they're subhuman. Even so, that's not "oppression". Blacks in the South before civil rights legislation were oppressed. Jews in Nazi Germany were oppressed. Blacks today are not even close to being in the same category.
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Let's trade the 49'ers Fitzpatrick, with how Geno, Petty, and Hack looked, the Jets don't need Fitz. Think about how good a short term investment this would be and it would allow for the Niners to get rid of a headache.
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We keep going through the same fuckn argument. Stereotypes and prejudices exist, and blacks get the brunt of them, but nowadays it's more a result of crime rates and ghetto culture rather than people honestly believing that they're subhuman. Even so, that's not "oppression". Blacks in the South before civil rights legislation were oppressed. Jews in Nazi Germany were oppressed. Blacks today are not even close to being in the same category.
We keep going through it because you haven't realized yet what a moron you are. Maybe one day. Probably not.
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Why is this thread still in the Jets forum?
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Why is this thread still in the Jets forum?
Because people are scared to start new threads so they shoehorn vaguely related stories into existing threads. And because my thread Nazi energy has been sapped by fatherhood.
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Why is this thread still in the Jets forum?
Because Fitz is going to get traded, so just in case we have to put every thread here.
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Lol
Colin Kaepernick told reporters Sunday that he will "continue to sit" during pre-game National Anthems.
This assumes Kaepernick is on an NFL roster this season, and attending games at all. While it is certainly within his rights to sit when the National Anthem is played, it has caused a P.R. nightmare in San Francisco and will remain one for as long as Kaepernick is showing up on Sundays. Other teams likely now view him as toxic. It's no secret Kaepernick is disliked by teammates, even prior to the National Anthem thing. Combined with his poor play, Kaepernick's protestation could become a career-threatening decision.
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FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reported Colin Kaepernick faces an "uphill battle" to make the 49ers' roster.
Glazer said he would be "shocked" if Kaepernick lasted the entire season on the 49ers' 53, and suggested Kap "may not even be on (the roster) in the next two weeks." All of Kaepernick's $11.9 million salary is guaranteed, but he has created a toxic situation by refusing to stand for pre-game National Anthems, which is Kaepernick's right but is frowned upon to put it mildly by most observers.
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You seem oddly fascinated with Colin Kaepernick.
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You seem oddly fascinated with Colin Kaepernick.
It's just interesting watching an athlete go out or their way to be an poopchute for a cause, and it comes back and makes him one of the most hated players in the sport.
There's ways to advocate against police violence without coming off like a degenerate poopchute. He didn't do it the right way
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It's just interesting watching an athlete go out or their way to be an poopchute for a cause, and it comes back and makes him one of the most hated players in the sport.
There's ways to advocate against police violence without coming off like a degenerate poopchute. He didn't do it the right way
Lots of athletes do stupid stuff. I'm pretty sure his agent isn't too thrilled with his stance. Unless his agent is that BLM superhero racial justice league whatever writer dude from the daily news.
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Plus it's also highly entertaining watching the 49ers going from a model of one of the greatest franchise in the league to a never ending train wreck.
Plus I remember when one of their guys was a big time candidate for us to be GM.
Though I can't recall if that was against Idzik or Mac
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why is this such a big deal
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Plus it's also highly entertaining watching the 49ers going from a model of one of the greatest franchise in the league to a never ending train wreck.
Plus I remember when one of their guys was a big time candidate for us to be GM.
Though I can't recall if that was against Idzik or Mac
It was vs Idzik and I can't even remember the guy's name anymore. And I actually wanted us to hire him.
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It was vs Idzik and I can't even remember the guy's name anymore. And I actually wanted us to hire him.
Gamble
Tom gamble?
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Gamble
Tom gamble?
That was it. I remember he went to the Eagles in a lateral move and I have no idea where he is now.
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Gamble is back with the 49ers
There's nothing I love more than the taste of cum.
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why is this such a big deal
No you
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Anyone read the full transcript of his reasoning?
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Anyone read the full transcript of his reasoning?
Is it because he is a massive douche?
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Is it because he is a massive douche?
He is. But as always, pft has a sound bite. He excrement on a lot of issues, but only the racial stuff is being reported.
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He has every right to be stupid and make retarded comments, but I'm just annoyed by people defending those comments. I just saw someone on Facebook compare his refusal to Jackie Robinson in 1947. Ugh.
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He's such a hero he stands up for nobody he knows. I hope his knee gets blown out or he gets cut, preferably both. People have every right to say and do stupid excrement, it's his right to be a queynte and mine to hope he gets hit by a truck.
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Martin Luther Squidward
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He's getting killed by the media for wearing a Fidel Castro shirt at his press conference today
How they pointed out how he's fighting "oppression" (his words) yet he's wearing a shirt idolizing one of the most oppressive dictators of all time
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I like when he said that if anyone else did what Hillary did, they'd be in jail.
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I like when he said that if anyone else did what Hillary did, they'd be in jail.
I bet he cannot express what it is she did wrong. "Uhh, email? Lock her up!"
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Rodney Harrison is an idiot, as usual.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/rodney-harrison-colin-kaepernick-not-black/172krqv16ji66153ho89cy75i5
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I don't know why this is such a big deal. Sportspeople make political pronouncements all the time and I tend to ignore them on a fairly equal basis. I don't remember people getting really upset with Tim Thomas when he refused to visit the White House after winning the Stanley Cup because he hates Obama, why are they getting worked up about Kaep not joining in with the anthem?
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I don't agree with Kaep's stance but I respect the freedom to do so. A lot of people take the stance of 'if you don't like this country then gtfo' but the concept of freedom is jeopardized if you take away people's right to protest.
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Hmm
So I was typing Colin kaepernick in the other thread (as he was mentioned as available)
And the software on my phone which trys to autopopilate the sentence with common related words or whatever. Automatically suggested rather racist language
I've never seen it do that before
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Hmm
So I was typing Colin kaepernick in the other thread (as he was mentioned as available)
And the software on my phone which trys to autopopilate the sentence with common related words or whatever. Automatically suggested rather racist language
I've never seen it do that before
Coon Kikepernick?
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Coon Kikepernick?
Nah it trys to finish the sentence
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How come Kaepernick chose this season to begin sitting for the anthem? Were black people not oppressed in 2015? He demanded a trade in the offseason and didn't get his way. Kinda seems to me like he wouldn't be doing this if he had a starting job on the line and now that he's riding the pine he has nothing to lose. He's already got his $12 mill or whatever it is guaranteed for the season.
He's entitled to his 1st amendment rights just like everyone else. Sitting for the national anthem doesn't accomplish anything though. All people are talking about is whether or not Kaepernick is an poopchute, not any of the issues at hand. Let me know when he starts volunteering in impoverished communities or donating game checks to the victims of police brutality and then I could say that he's going about this the right way. But that would probably get in the way of him buying rooms full of sneakers and douchey tattoos.
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In case anyone is wondering, I still don't care about this.
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In case anyone is wondering, I still don't care about this.
+1
There's nothing I love more than the taste of cum.
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In case anyone is wondering, I still don't care about this.
Triggered
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Colin Kaepernick’s first time on the field since sitting for the national anthem comes in the NFL’s #1 military town on a night dubbed a “Salute to the Military.”
The optics promise a startling contrast if nothing else. As one African American in red, white, and gold sits during the song another, Petty Officer 1st Class Steven Powell, in dress whites sings it. A color guard representing the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines and 240 soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines holding a massive “super flag” on the field aid the visual aspect of the performance of “The Star Spangled Banner” at Quaalcom Stadium in San Diego.
So-called super flags generally take up the entirety of a football field. Their 300-feet-by-150-feet dimensions almost perfectly correspond to the size and shape of the gridiron. They weigh more than a half ton and cost north of $50,000.
The San Diego Chargers and San Francisco 49ers kick off at 7 p.m. on Thursday. Kaepernick, who finds himself behind Blaine Gabbert on the depth chart, likely plays in the game as teams generally rest starters in the final preseason exhibitions. The timing of the event suggests that although God may possess a sense of humor here the Chargers merely stumble into a strange coincidence. The Chargers hosted the 27th annual “Salute to the Military” at this same time last year.
“At halftime the Chargers will recognize six Vietnam War veterans as a remembrance of the 50th anniversary of the war,” the team announced. “The Chargers will also have wounded warriors as special guests and a patriotic fireworks show to wrap up half-time.”
The 28th annual “Salute to the Military” also features Powell returning to sing “God Bless America” during the game. Before the game, a group of Navy Seals plans to parachute down upon Quaalcom Stadium and a Marine Corps Band provides entertainment.
The stadium in San Diego, home to numerous Navy and Marine Corps installations, also hosts thousands of active duty and retired military who intend to make the quarterback’s night memorable.
This should be good
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/veterans-for-kaepernick_us_57c6d704e4b0a22de09325f4?
I don't even know why Kaepernick refusing to acknowledge the anthem has become anything to do with the Armed Forces.
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Well today he wore "anti police" socks to practice
With pictures of pigs with police hats on
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/veterans-for-kaepernick_us_57c6d704e4b0a22de09325f4?
I don't even know why Kaepernick refusing to acknowledge the anthem has become anything to do with the Armed Forces.
Woah, it's almost like different people have different opinions. I'm sure you can find some social media accounts that don't share that view.
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Woah, it's almost like different people have different opinions. I'm sure you can find some social media accounts that don't share that view.
Of course, what's your point? I still don't understand how this story has become "Colin Kaepernick hates soldiers and freedom".
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Of course, what's your point? I still don't understand how this story has become "Colin Kaepernick hates soldiers and freedom".
Presumably because he intentionally protested the American flag
Although he's flat out shared his negative opinions about police and America as a whole, so I think I it's definitely warranted for him to take that and go freak himself.
So many people are getting riled up about free speech and what not. I'd say a large majority of Americans hold negative opinions of others because of their opinions and views (see politics). This is the same thing
He's free to be an poopchute and people are free to treat him like excrement for it
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Presumably because he intentionally protested the American flag
Although he's flat out shared his negative opinions about police and America as a whole, so I think I it's definitely warranted for him to take that and go freak himself.
So many people are getting riled up about free speech and what not. I'd say a large majority of Americans hold negative opinions of others because of their opinions and views (see politics). This is the same thing
He's free to be an poopchute and people are free to treat him like excrement for it
I don't necessarily disagree with most of that, but it still doesn't answer the question. What does his protest have to do with the Armed Forces?
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I don't necessarily disagree with most of that, but it still doesn't answer the question. What does his protest have to do with the Armed Forces?
Because any time an American says or does something considered "unpatriotic" it's widely considered an affront to all those who served this country in the military, as though the offender is personally disregarding the sacrifice of those veterans.
When they scream at someone that they're insulting the sacrifice of a veteran they expect that person to be cowed.
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The flag and anthem represent all of us. By shitting on both he's shitting on everyone. Call injustice all you want, but you're shitting on the entire country over the actions of a few.
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I don't necessarily disagree with most of that, but it still doesn't answer the question. What does his protest have to do with the Armed Forces?
I mean the whole flag and national anthem means a lot more to the armed forces than it does the lay public (or so I believe)
After all at national anthem at games they usually highlight the armed forces present and all that kinda stuff, and honor the fallen
Plus I think the American flag is a symbol strongly associated with the armed forces. For example when a person in the military is killed they usually have flags draped on the coffin and the family is usually given a flag (don't worry I'm an expert on this from watching movies), and the anthem itself also honors them
And it's always had it roles in wars too. For example the famous statue of iwo jima of the Marines and the flag.
I can absolutely understand why the armed forces would get offended by someone who is disrespecting of the flag
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On a related note, the flag wavers on social media annoy me. Listen, I'm American. Born here, lived here my whole life, consider myself lucky to be here. But freak off with the in your face 'omg soldiers/police/first responders are the greatest, bravest, strongest, and most incredible people to walk this earth and if you don't share or retweet you don't respect them'
Half the people I know in the military/police force were high school degenerates with no career options or facing drug charges and did it to avoid jail time.
Do I respect them? Of course, but give me a freaking break with some of the hero worship. All they deserve is a bag of tostitos.
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He has every right to be stupid and make retarded comments, but I'm just annoyed by people defending those comments. I just saw someone on Facebook compare his refusal to Jackie Robinson in 1947. Ugh.
You need new friends.
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In case anyone is wondering, I still don't care about this.
This is the best response. I have serious doubts that he's doing this for any reason other than "Derp".
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The flag and anthem represent all of us. By shitting on both he's shitting on everyone. Call injustice all you want, but you're shitting on the entire country over the actions of a few.
This idea is freaking stupid. I hope you acknowledge that. CK is a freaking idiot, but that doesn't mean we aren't excessively obsessed with patriotism.
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Colin Kaepernick should never be the face of anything. Unless they plan to remake Alice in Wonderland again and need someone to play the flamingo.
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The flag and anthem represent all of us. By shitting on both he's shitting on everyone. Call injustice all you want, but you're shitting on the entire country over the actions of a few.
As a former Boy Scout and current federal employee, I still don't give a excrement.
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I'm mostly with badger. I don't think standing and putting your hand over your heart is a big deal to skip. I personally think getting up in arms about it is a bit much but that's everyone's right just as much as it's kaps right to not participate.
Really just feels like much ado about nothing to me. I think if it wasn't an election year this wouldn't be such a big issue.
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The anti cop thing is part of it too further fueling the fire along with tension of the whole black lives matter movement
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It's really not a big deal but if any of you faggots don't stand for the anthem at the Ravens game you will be sucking cheese dust through a straw
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Ima going to protest the Hocaust by sitting for the Anthem.
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It's really not a big deal but if any of you faggots don't stand for the anthem at the Ravens game you will be sucking cheese dust through a straw
I'm going to sit on my derriere and flip the bird at the anthem singer.
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If Americans really respected their anthem they wouldn't let sports teams get some third rate pub singer who just got kicked off American Idol torture it through six octaves, none of which she can hit, like she's Mariah freaking Carey.
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I'm going to sit on my derriere and flip the bird at the anthem singer.
I would respect you much less if you stood for the anthem while watching it in your living room
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If Americans really respected their anthem they wouldn't let sports teams get some third rate pub singer who just got kicked off American Idol torture it through six octaves, none of which she can hit, like she's Mariah freaking Carey.
I know you're kidding, but the logistics of that would be insane. It's not like we just have the CFL and curling events down here.
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I know you're kidding, but the logistics of that would be insane. It's not like we just have the CFL and curling events down here.
In little league, they just put the PA system mic up against a tape of some band playing it. One time the mic fell off the table, and you could hear the scorekeeper say "oh excrement" over the PA system.
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I wonder how many cameras will be shoved up in his face during the anthem. I wouldn't be surprised to see him stay in the locker room for the anthem.
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I know you're kidding, but the logistics of that would be insane. It's not like we just have the CFL and curling events down here.
How am I kidding? We have 40 odd games a year in Ottawa and this is how we do the anthems there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8x5BNZQ1co
He's an Ontario police officer (retired now I think) who always performs in uniform. His recordings of both anthems were used on board the Space Shuttle. Why do American sports teams allow so many has-beens and never-will-bes to butcher their anthem in some form of desperate last chance audition if they respect it so much? Find a proper singer and have them do it at every game.
Or just do like the Giants did and have Metallica play it. That's cool too.
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If he gets cut, his career might be over. No team wants that distraction for a mediocre player.
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If he gets cut, his career might be over. No team wants that distraction for a mediocre player.
(http://cdn.barstoolsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/01/CrRoXvzWcAACxJg.jpg?8bca9e)
Wut distraction
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How am I kidding? We have 40 odd games a year in Ottawa and this is how we do the anthems there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8x5BNZQ1co
He's an Ontario police officer (retired now I think) who always performs in uniform. His recordings of both anthems were used on board the Space Shuttle. Why do American sports teams allow so many has-beens and never-will-bes to butcher their anthem in some form of desperate last chance audition if they respect it so much? Find a proper singer and have them do it at every game.
Or just do like the Giants did and have Metallica play it. That's cool too.
How does his dick taste?
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How does his dick taste?
Old and wrinkly, I imagine.
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If he gets cut, his career might be over. No team wants that distraction for a mediocre player.
SBTG
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If he gets cut, his career might be over. No team wants that distraction for a mediocre player.
He's a QB
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Yeah, but you know there will be people claiming he just got cut because he took a stand. It's actually a smart move on his part if he knows he's getting dumped and wants to just make a scene erupt around his cut.
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Yeah, but you know there will be people claiming he just got cut because he took a stand. It's actually a smart move on his part if he knows he's getting dumped and wants to just make a scene erupt around his cut.
when you're getting cut aren't you supposed to come up with a plan that will make teams want to sign you and not the opposite?
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Yeah, but you know there will be people claiming he just got cut because he took a stand. It's actually a smart move on his part if he knows he's getting dumped and wants to just make a scene erupt around his cut.
Protesting "the system" by inventing a example of why "the system" is oppressive. Sounds like a great plan.
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Niners Nation @NinersNation
Kap: Donating the first $1 million he makes this year to various organizations to work with communities
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Niners Nation @NinersNation
Kap: Donating the first $1 million he makes this year to various organizations to work with communities
Probably banking on making $0
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Niners Nation @NinersNation
Kap: Donating the first $1 million he makes this year to various organizations to work with communities
Is BLM a various organization?
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Is BLM a various organization?
I don't know if they're even legally registered as a charity to which one can donate.
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And there's this:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-colin-kaepernick-green-beret-20160902-snap-htmlstory.html
People can whine about him all they like but the guy is listening, talking and getting a huge amount of coverage and discussion of something that clearly matters to a lot of people. To start with I was pretty meh on the whole thing but I'm quite impressed with the way Kaep is handling this.
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Probably banking on making $0
He's got something like $12M guaranteed this year so he'll be OK.
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I don't know if they're even legally registered as a charity to which one can donate.
Are you serious? They couldn't possibly gain charitable organization status. They have no organization.
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Protesting "the system" by inventing a example of why "the system" is oppressive. Sounds like a great plan.
Are you saying SJWs won't claim he got cut for his views?
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Are you saying SJWs won't claim he got cut for his views?
"SJW" is the new Godwin's Law.
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"SJW" is the new Godwin's Law.
Ok, what do you think the response will be from guys like this if he gets cut?
http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_30322274/thomas-peele-kaepernick-is-first-amendment-hero
http://www.sbnation.com/2016/9/5/12795542/colin-kaepernick-heroes-national-anthem-captain-america-nfl
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-colin-kaepernick-national-anthem-kevin-blackistone-20160905-story.html
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The thing is that most people don't know that he sucks and will get cut because he sucks. They'll just see something like "Former QB who took 49ers to the Super Bowl cut after controversial decision to not stand for anthem."
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I've just realised what a media shitstorm is going to come down if anyone kneels for the anthem on Sunday, given the date. At least the Niners play Monday so it's not going to be Kaepernick again.
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I've just realised what a media shitstorm is going to come down if anyone kneels for the anthem on Sunday, given the date. At least the Niners play Monday so it's not going to be Kaepernick again.
Justified shitstorm. It's 911, people died. Show some respect and save your protests for another time. A meaningless preseason game is one thing, but not showing respect during the anthem on 911 is blatant disrespect to everyone who lost their lives that day.
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Justified shitstorm. It's 911, people died. Show some respect and save your protests for another time. A meaningless preseason game is one thing, but not showing respect during the anthem on 911 is blatant disrespect to everyone who lost their lives that day.
It'll be just like black lives matter where they're hurting their cause and making themselves look like idiots
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http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/washington-spirit-troll-the-excrement-out-of-megan-rapinoe-play-the-anthem-before-she-has-a-chance-to-protest/
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This week in "Ways To Use The Word 'Troll" Incorrectly".
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This week in "Ways To Use The Word 'Troll" Incorrectly".
Par for the course for that website
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Her reaction is funny. "They denied my right to protest nothing in particular in a dumb and disrespectful manner!"
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2662472-bobby-wagner-doug-baldwin-talk-potential-of-teamwide-national-anthem-protest
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2662472-bobby-wagner-doug-baldwin-talk-potential-of-teamwide-national-anthem-protest
Sure, that's fine. Put up a sign that reads "BLACK LIVES MATTER" or some excrement. You don't have to be an poopchute and disrespect the country and flag while protesting, even though it's your right to do so.
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People Colin Kaepernick has supposedly disrespected so far:
-veterans
-police
-firefighters
-male nurses
-everyone's Republican uncle
-John Tortorella
-people who never served in the military but wear camo sometimes
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would you guys agree with the concept that the flag can mean different things to different people?
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would you guys agree with the concept that the flag can mean different things to different people?
Absolutely. I think that getting offended by someone disrespecting your flag is as ridiculous as getting offended by someone drawing a picture of your god.
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Absolutely. I think that getting offended by someone disrespecting your flag is as ridiculous as getting offended by someone drawing a picture of your god.
i agree
i find something totally strange about people saying that not standing for the flag is inherently disrespecting the country america as a whole, or essentially saying 'eff you' to america.
maybe, at this point in time, when kaepernick sees the flag he thinks of a country who he feels is not doing its best to protect and uphold the rights of all of its people from all backgrounds, which is something the country has promised to do since its founding....and that's why he does not feel like standing for the flag. i think it's ridiculous how people all over the country are on social media stating things along the lines of 'he didn't stand for the flag, he is literally saying freak you to america right now! how could he!'
why do people automatically associate veterans/military/war as something that is automatically represented by the flag?
by not standing for the flag, he is exercising his right to protest and freedom of expression. the act in and of itself is a very american thing to do.
why the freak is this such a big deal
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This rendition of the Star Spangled Banner is far more offensive than Brandon Marshall kneeling for it.
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Drama!!!!!!!
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i think it's ridiculous how people all over the country are on social media stating things along the lines of 'he didn't stand for the flag, he is literally saying freak you to america right now! how could he!'
why do people automatically associate veterans/military/war as something that is automatically represented by the flag?
by not standing for the flag, he is exercising his right to protest and freedom of expression. the act in and of itself is a very american thing to do.
why the freak is this such a big deal
Because people are sensitive flowers who can't control their emotions when someone else's world view is different from their own.
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Have to admit, I was taking a dump during the national anthem. Not intended.
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Have to admit, I was taking a dump during the national anthem. Not intended.
Why do you hate crippled soldiers?
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people are allowed to get offended just like Kaepernick is allowed to sit for the anthem. America
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Because people are sensitive flowers who can't control their emotions when someone else's world view is different from their own.
I wasn't offended by his protest, I just thought it was stupid. And I also think his face is stupid.
Doing that during a 911 ceremony? That I will take personally.
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people are allowed to get offended just like Kaepernick is allowed to sit for the anthem. America
Enjoy your Tostitos.
/salute
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Enjoy your Tostitos.
/salute
21 honk salute
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And I also think his face is stupid.
This we can all agree on.
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lol, this site:
http://www.angrypatriotmovement.com/nfl-team-911/
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lol, this site:
http://www.angrypatriotmovement.com/nfl-team-911/
How did you find that garbage site?
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Facebook.
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I don't care much for these anthem protests but at the same time I really hope none of the Jets players take part in that excrement
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I don't care much for these anthem protests but at the same time I really hope none of the Jets players take part in that excrement
As long as they don't suck I don't care if they burn Pat Tillman in effigy on the sideline.
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They asked Marshall on 660 what he's going to do and he said he's going to stand. He defended Kaepernick for the duration of the interview and later that night on Inside the NFL
If anyone sits my money is on Geno
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They asked Marshall on 660 what he's going to do and he said he's going to stand. He defended Kaepernick for the duration of the interview and later that night on Inside the NFL
If anyone sits my money is on Geno
Oh he'll sit. During the game.
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Seahawks WR Doug Baldwin says team will stand, interlock arms before game vs. Dolphins, for unity:... https://t.co/EudDVtgM0U
Why would anyone give a excrement? Aww look, they are holding hands. If they weren't playing the Dolphins, I'd hope they get smoked.
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Seahawks WR Doug Baldwin says team will stand, interlock arms before game vs. Dolphins, for unity:... https://t.co/EudDVtgM0U
Why would anyone give a excrement? Aww look, they are holding hands. If they weren't playing the Dolphins, I'd hope they get smoked.
Seems like you give a excrement.
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Seems like you give a excrement.
I could do without having to hear about this story over and over again every day
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Seems like you give a excrement.
Just barely. Alright I'm a freaking hypocrite.
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I am enjoying how much this whole thing appears to be offending the kind of people who usually complain about other people getting offended.
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I am enjoying how much this whole thing appears to be offending the kind of people who usually complain about other people getting offended.
I'm not offended, I find this just as annoying as endless storylines about Tebow/Lebron/Johnny Manziel. Those things don't offend me either, I watch sports to watch sports, not to hear the media blather on about BS that has nothing to do with the game.
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I'm not offended, I find this just as annoying as endless storylines about Tebow/Lebron/Johnny Manziel. Those things don't offend me either, I watch sports to watch sports, not to hear the media blather on about BS that has nothing to do with the game.
I wasn't aiming it at anyone in particular on here, although I am sure that there are one or two for whom it fits. I thought it was a bit of a dick move to start with, particularly the socks, but Kaepernick has shown intelligence, thoughtfulness and no small amount of class since, and I'm actually interested to see where it goes. It doesn't impact the game at all, and the only time I'm ever in a stadium or arena in time for the anthems is at the Sens where there's absolutely freak all else outside the arena to be doing, so I don't really care.
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I wasn't aiming it at anyone in particular on here, although I am sure that there are one or two for whom it fits. I thought it was a bit of a dick move to start with, particularly the socks, but Kaepernick has shown intelligence, thoughtfulness and no small amount of class since, and I'm actually interested to see where it goes. It doesn't impact the game at all, and the only time I'm ever in a stadium or arena in time for the anthems is at the Sens where there's absolutely freak all else outside the arena to be doing, so I don't really care.
I still think kaepernick is an poopchute, but I have to give him credit for donating a million dollars or whatever it was he gave away.
Hopefully some good will come of this, although I'm worried it happened in a divisive way
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Hopefully some good will come of this, although I'm worried it happened in a divisive way
I don't think the bolded can be blamed on kaepernick, though.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2663758-us-representative-steve-king-criticizes-colin-kaepernicks-anthem-protest?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
If you don't want to read the article, Steve King, a Republican congressman from Iowa, basically suggested that Kaepernick is sympathetic to ISIS because he's dating a Muslim.
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What a tool. He sucks and makes more money than 99% of his team's fans and he talks about inequality.
So should Ali be discredited?
His salary has nothing to do with the issue he's tryino to bring up.
Furthermore people saying "he doesn't know about oppression, he was adopted by white people " pretty much prove him right .
Indicating there are benefits to being associated with white people .
People like Diller sound moronic for telling him to shut up because he's a backup . Also , ironic because Diller was hot garbage
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So should Ali be discredited?
His salary has nothing to do with the issue he's tryino to bring up.
Furthermore people saying "he doesn't know about oppression, he was adopted by white people " pretty much prove him right .
Indicating there are benefits to being associated with white people .
People like Diller sound moronic for telling him to shut up because he's a backup . Also , ironic because Diller was hot garbage
One guy having success indicates there are benefits to being associated with white people? Because there's not a million other factors at work
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^^^^that's not what those people are trying to say. they are commenting nothing about his success. they are saying that he hasn't faced the same oppression other blacks do because he was adopted into a white family
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^^^^that's not what those people are trying to say. they are commenting nothing about his success. they are saying that he hasn't faced the same oppression other blacks do because he was adopted into a white family
I'm sure he's gotten treated differently by cops and a bunch of other people in his past even though he grew up in a white household, but there's a big difference between "There are still some racists and stereotypes still exist in America" to "America is an oppressive country!"
That's my main problem with his comments.
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I'm sure he's gotten treated differently by cops and a bunch of other people in his past even though he grew up in a white household, but there's a big difference between "There are still some racists and stereotypes still exist in America" to "America is an oppressive country!"
That's my main problem with his comments.
that's fine, but IMO those two statements aren't very comparable or relatable, and address two completely different things.
the first statement is something that can be used to describe the unfortunate neighbor you may have who doesn't accept you because you are different than they are. it can be used to describe the looks you may get at a private restaurant owned by a private owner somewhere in the deep south, which is only frequented by locals. kaepernick isn't talking about this.
what kaepernick is talking about is the fact that government and law enforcement officials seem to target certain groups of citizens more frequently and punish certain groups more severely than they do other groups, for the same crimes/offenses, based on the color of their skin. when national institutions like the government and law enforcement seem to treat and/or approach citizens differently based on the color of their skin, then he has some sort of backing to stand on when he exclaims sentiments similar to that 2nd statement that america is an oppressive country, especially in the face of the country's claims that it is land of the free and that all men and women are created equal.
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that's fine, but IMO those two statements aren't very comparable or relatable, and address two completely different things.
the first statement is something that can be used to describe the unfortunate neighbor you may have who doesn't accept you because you are different than they are. it can be used to describe the looks you may get at a private restaurant owned by a private owner somewhere in the deep south, which is only frequented by locals. kaepernick isn't talking about this.
what kaepernick is talking about is the fact that government and law enforcement officials seem to target certain groups of citizens more frequently and punish certain groups more severely than they do other groups, for the same crimes/offenses, based on the color of their skin. when national institutions like the government and law enforcement seem to treat and/or approach citizens differently based on the color of their skin, then he has some sort of backing to stand on when he exclaims sentiments similar to that 2nd statement that america is an oppressive country, especially in the face of the country's claims that it is land of the free and that all men and women are created equal.
It's like the male/female wage gap thing. Blacks in inner cities are poorer and don't have the resources to hire good lawyers. If you're using a public defender, whether black or white, you're fucked. And blacks are more likely to live in poorer neighborhoods and have less access to lawyers who can get them reduced sentences. It's not a conspiracy against them, it's a poverty issue.
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Tell me more about how all of Kaepernick's teammates hate him.
Matt Barrows @mattbarrows
Final answer to whether Colin Kaepernick divided #49ers locker room: Teammates gave him team's most prestigious honor, the Len Eshmont Award
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Tell me more about how all of Kaepernick's teammates hate him.
Who said his teammates hate him?
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Who said his teammates hate him?
Not aimed at anyone in particular, mainly because I can't remember who the culprit(s) was/were, but there was much talk on here previously about how Kaepernick was a poor locker room influence.
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Not aimed at anyone in particular, mainly because I can't remember who the culprit(s) was/were, but there was much talk on here previously about how Kaepernick was a poor locker room influence.
Just because a majority of the players in San Francisco like him doesn't mean he isn't a poor influence with his off the field decision making/apparent selfishness. The culture there has shifted back to losing. I don't really care who their favorite player is. They have reverted back to being garbage under Chip Kelly.
I hate to assume things, but I'm willing to bet a lot of young black players in that locker room supported the National Anthem kneeling and that got him a lot of respect.
That's just how I see it.
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Just because a majority of the players in San Francisco like him doesn't mean he isn't a poor influence with his off the field decision making/apparent selfishness. The culture there has shifted back to losing. I don't really care who their favorite player is. They have reverted back to being garbage under Chip Kelly.
I hate to assume things, but I'm willing to bet a lot of young black players in that locker room supported the National Anthem kneeling and that got him a lot of respect.
That's just how I see it.
Pretty much all professional sportspeople have a healthy degree of arrogance, it would be mostly impossible to achieve the heights they do without an unshakeable belief in their own abilities. I'm not going to hold that against him.
Regardless of why teammmates like and respect him, without that you have Geno Smith who it seems pretty clear has little support in the locker room. If Petty isn't going to be starting for us next year, I can't think of any available QB I'd rather have than Kaep. I think he'd be perfect for where we are right now as a franchise.
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Regardless of why teammmates like and respect him, without that you have Geno Smith who it seems pretty clear has little support in the locker room. If Petty isn't going to be starting for us next year, I can't think of any available QB I'd rather have than Kaep. I think he'd be perfect for where we are right now as a franchise.
Matt McGloin 2017
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Matt McGloin 2017
I put on Twitter a few days ago that it would be funny if McGloin and Hackenberg had to compete for the starting job next year.
I'm willing to bargain hunt at QB and see what we can get. If that's Kaepernick, McGloin, Geno, Hoyer, Glennon, Tyrod, a draft pick, whoever. I don't want to spend $14M on a shaky QB.
It also depends on how much they think Hackenberg has or will develop. If they haven't lost faith in him, then they can afford to bargain hunt more. If they think he stinks, then the need becomes more urgent.
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If that's Kaepernick, McGloin, Geno, Hoyer, Glennon, Tyrod, a draft pick, whoever.
One of these is not like the others
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One of these is not like the others
Yeah, Tyrod is by far the best option on that list. I'm curious what his market will be like.
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Yeah, Tyrod is by far the best option on that list. I'm curious what his market will be like.
I wasn't talking about him...
Geno Smith doesn't need to play here anymore.
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I wasn't talking about him...
Geno Smith doesn't need to play here anymore.
I know who you were talking about.
I don't want to rehash Geno arguments because we have them in every thread. I just don't see what makes him much different than a guy like Matt McGloin or Mike Glennon, and if we can get him at a discount, it's worth exploring.
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I don't want to rehash Geno arguments because we have them in every thread. I just don't see what makes him much different than a guy like Matt McGloin or Mike Glennon, and if we can get him at a discount, it's worth exploring.
McGloin and Glennon didn't get knocked out in our locker room.
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I know who you were talking about.
I don't want to rehash Geno arguments because we have them in every thread. I just don't see what makes him much different than a guy like Matt McGloin or Mike Glennon, and if we can get him at a discount, it's worth exploring.
Geno's play is a crime against humanity.
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Glennon would make sense to me because he played fairly well in his time as starter on a shitty TB team. Plus he is still young. I don't think he'll be a long term option, but none of them are really. At least he isn't Geno.
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"Kaepernick believes there has been positive change in America and doesn’t want to detract from that, so he’ll no longer kneel during “The Star-Spangled Banner” in 2017, Adam Schefter of ESPN reports."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/02/colin-kaepernick-plans-to-stand-for-the-national-anthem/
This is what I've been saying about this guy all along. Piece of excrement.
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"Kaepernick believes there has been positive change in America and doesn’t want to detract from that, so he’ll no longer kneel during “The Star-Spangled Banner” in 2017, Adam Schefter of ESPN reports."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/02/colin-kaepernick-plans-to-stand-for-the-national-anthem/
This is what I've been saying about this guy all along. Piece of excrement.
But why does he upset you so much?
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So Kaepernick likes Trump?
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Why does anyone give a flying freak what a celebrity or athlete thinks about politics??
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Why does anyone give a flying freak what a celebrity or athlete thinks about politics??
I don't think people are genuinely upset or that it actually bothers them personally, but you're allowed to hate someone.
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But why does he upset you so much?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000232658/article/jaworski-kaepernick-could-be-one-of-the-greatest-ever
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000232658/article/jaworski-kaepernick-could-be-one-of-the-greatest-ever
So one guy said he could be really good once, and you're mad at him because he hasn't lived up to someone else's expectations?
I have no problem at all with what Kaepernick did, but it is funny that now that his contract is up, he'll appease the masses during the anthem.
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kill it with fire do not want.
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I just don't want to look at his weird face on Sundays. I don't care if he was Mother Teresa.
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So one guy said he could be really good once, and you're mad at him because he hasn't lived up to someone else's expectations?
I have no problem at all with what Kaepernick did, but it is funny that now that his contract is up, he'll appease the masses during the anthem.
I have many, many reasons I don't like Kaepernick. Let me know when to stop.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Colin-Kaepernick-New-Tattoo-Money-Is-The-Root-of-Evil-266343121.html
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I have many, many reasons I don't like Kaepernick. Let me know when to stop.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Colin-Kaepernick-New-Tattoo-Money-Is-The-Root-of-Evil-266343121.html
I decide who i like and dislike based on the ink they got when they were in their mid 20s.
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I decide who i like and dislike based on the ink they got when they were in their mid 20s.
Meh, a ton of guys in the NFL have retarded tattoos, but this is the only one that's made me face palm.
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I want kaepernick so we can get a seasons worth of SFD hate posts.
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I just don't see what the problem is with hating someone because you think they and their beliefs are dumb?
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I just don't see what the problem is with hating someone because you think they and their beliefs are dumb?
Not allowed to dislike things anymore it's not politically correct
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Not allowed to dislike things anymore it's not politically correct
I can see if SFD was pontificating about how offended he is by Kaepernick's bullshit, but he just he hates the guy because of his stupid bullshit. I don't get offended if you kneel during the national anthem, but I will think you're an idiot and probably end up not liking you. Oh the horror.
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Imagine the yelling SFD will do at games when we sign him.
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I decide who i like and dislike based on the ink they got when they were in their mid 20s.
You should see some of the shitty ink I got in my 20s.
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170303/eca5ffb53409ba66aedd5aa2510a307e.gif)
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You should see some of the shitty ink I got in my 20s.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170303/a2323fff943c67416ca38b998bce54de.jpg)
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Memories.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/11aCNnhizTWfXW/giphy.gif)
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I want kaepernick so we can get a seasons worth of SFD hate posts.
They would be shockingly similar to my Fitz/Geno/Sanchez hate posts.
"Oh look, Kaepernick threw a pick again. I hate that poopchute"
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170303/a2323fff943c67416ca38b998bce54de.jpg)
Compared to some of the excrement I have, that's fine art.
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Compared to some of the excrement I have, that's fine art.
Hahahhaa
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They would be shockingly similar to my Fitz/Geno/Sanchez hate posts.
"Oh look, Kaepernick threw a pick again. I hate that poopchute"
But you will probably word some of them in more creative and entertaining ways which will be fun.
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Holds rally, spells name wrong.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGtXg1YXYAIZV4q.jpg)
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Hahaha
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Guess the people going to this don't have jobs either
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According to Ray Lewis on Inside the NFL, the Ravens didn't sign free agent Colin Kaepernick because of a "racist gesture" his girlfriend posted on Twitter last month.
There's a lot to unpack here. "We [Lewis and Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti] were talking about giving this kid an opportunity to get back in the NFL," Lewis said. "I have been fighting for this kid behind the table like nobody has. ... I've never been against Colin Kaepernick. But I am against the way he’s done it. Then, his [girlfriend] goes out and put out this racist gesture and doesn’t know we are in the back office about to try to get this guy signed. Bisciotti has said it himself, 'How can you crucify Ray Lewis when Ray Lewis is the one calling for Colin Kaepernick?' ... We were going to close the deal to sign him. And it never happens because that picture comes up the next day." The picture can be seen at the following link. It sounds like a fabricated story to give the Ravens an excuse.
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(https://media.tmz.com/2017/08/03/0803-ray-lewis-nessa-colin-kaepernick-tweet-4.jpg)
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/bs-sp-ravens-ray-lewis-colin-kaepernick-20170905-story.html
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lol
Ray Lewis really does need to go away though. He is unbearable.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/10/15/colin-kaepernick-files-greivance-owner-collusion-cba
Free agent quarterback Colin Kaepernick is pursuing a collusion grievance against the NFL under the CBA, according to Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports and Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report.
The NFL spokesman told La Canfora that he is checking on it.
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That's dumb, talent wise he should definitely be on a roster but it's not collusion.
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That's dumb, talent wise he should definitely be on a roster but it's not collusion.
I'm inclined to agree. But he has nothing to lose by filing the grievance if he's already de facto blacklisted.
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I'm inclined to agree. But he has nothing to lose by filing the grievance if he's already de facto blacklisted.
Didn't he opt out of a valid contract?
I don't see how there's any collusion when these owners are all out to beat each other. If one of 32 thought it would help their team they would sign him.
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Didn't he opt out of a valid contract?
I don't see how there's any collusion when these owners are all out to beat each other. If one of 32 thought it would help their team they would sign him.
Doesn't matter, he already set the narrative. Most people don't know about any of that so now it's automatically "institutional racism within the NFL". God help us.
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Doesn't matter, he already set the narrative. Most people don't know about any of that so now it's automatically "institutional racism within the NFL". God help us.
I think people are smarter than that, which is why the NFL has taken a hit. A message of racism and oppression from black millionaires in their 20s who live on a pedestal is missing the mark. Especially when they're being paid to play a game you can't even play in any other countries except Canada. If anyone should appreciate this country for what it is it's them.
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It's like neither of you actually read my post and just played along to your own little narrative.
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It's like neither of you actually read my post and just played along to your own little narrative.
The post I quoted? That's where I jumped in for today.
I'm not reading 20 pages on this guy, I don't have enough time left to live.
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Papa John's has decided to pull all advertising from the NFL due to the NFLs weak response to this whole thing, and poor consumer sentiment
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Papa John's has decided to pull all advertising from the NFL due to the NFLs weak response to this whole thing, and poor consumer sentiment
Nobody with taste buds eats that crap pizza.
F Papa John
And F Trump, the Buttplug YOU voted for
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Nobody with taste buds eats that crap pizza.
F Papa John
And F Trump, the Buttplug YOU voted for
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I honestly can't believe that Papa John's wasn't sued for false advertising "better ingredients, better pizza"....... better than what? Dog jizz
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I honestly can't believe that Papa John's wasn't sued for false advertising "better ingredients, better pizza"....... better than what? Dog jizz
Lots of people have never had good pizza so they don't know better. Not everyone has had a good NY pizza slice. There are plenty of parts of the country where the choices are Domino's, Papa John's, Pizza Hut, grocery store pizza or some pooper where a redneck named Randy is making pizza that tastes like stewed tomatoes on a paper towel.
I'm glad I don't live in those places. I can't say we have great pizza here but there are at least a few local joints with pretty good pizza. I'd be lying if I said I haven't had my share of excrement pizza in college or after several beers. Even now, if you catch me at the right time (i.e. starving), I'd grab a slice of Papa John's at a kids birthday party or something. It isn't good, but I'm not picky.
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Lots of people have never had good pizza so they don't know better. Not everyone has had a good NY pizza slice. There are plenty of parts of the country where the choices are Domino's, Papa John's, Pizza Hut, grocery store pizza or some pooper where a redneck named Randy is making pizza that tastes like stewed tomatoes on a paper towel.
I'm glad I don't live in those places. I can't say we have great pizza here but there are at least a few local joints with pretty good pizza. I'd be lying if I said I haven't had my share of excrement pizza in college or after several beers. Even now, if you catch me at the right time (i.e. starving), I'd grab a slice of Papa John's at a kids birthday party or something. It isn't good, but I'm not picky.
I have two of the best pizza places in Toronto no more than three minutes walk from me, a Detroit style place and a classic Neapolitan, and I frequent both regularly, but there are still occasions when I'm sitting in front of a football game or playing videogames and all I want is greasy delivery pizza and a six pack of excrement beer.
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I only eat papa johns because they’re the only company that isn’t in the pocket of BLM/Antifa
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I only eat papa johns because they’re the only company that isn’t in the pocket of BLM/Antifa
Papa John's Pizza: Our Basements are Guaranteed to be Child Free!
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Papa John's Pizza: Our Basements are Guaranteed to be Child Free!
Domino's: Come on into the white van! Trust us!
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I only eat papa johns because they’re the only company that isn’t in the pocket of BLM/Antifa
I only eat my Papa Johns topped with Chikfila nuggets.
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I've never had Papa John's and it's gonna stay that way.
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Lots of people have never had good pizza so they don't know better. Not everyone has had a good NY pizza slice. There are plenty of parts of the country where the choices are Domino's, Papa John's, Pizza Hut, grocery store pizza or some pooper where a redneck named Randy is making pizza that tastes like stewed tomatoes on a paper towel.
I'm glad I don't live in those places. I can't say we have great pizza here but there are at least a few local joints with pretty good pizza. I'd be lying if I said I haven't had my share of excrement pizza in college or after several beers. Even now, if you catch me at the right time (i.e. starving), I'd grab a slice of Papa John's at a kids birthday party or something. It isn't good, but I'm not picky.
When I was stranded in Binghamton I ate approximately an acre of Papa John's in my sophomore year (I had a stack of BOGO coupons).
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I've had Papa John's twice. It's not really different from Dominoes or Pizza Hut, though I'd rank them Dominoes, Pizza Hut, Papa John's.
They opened a location a couple of blocks away from me years ago. We ordered from them twice, then the third time they said they don't deliver to our address. We tried a fourth attempt and 2 hours later we called to see where the hell the food was and they said they don't deliver to our address. There's literally a tiny hospital between them and my home. I can walk there in less than 5 minutes. We never bothered ordering from them again.
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Can't say I've ever had or seen papa John's pizza before. Domino's and pizza hut were always relatively main stream, but papa johns are borderline non existent
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Can't say I've ever had or seen papa John's pizza before. Domino's and pizza hut were always relatively main stream, but papa johns are borderline non existent
It seemed to come around in the late 90s, towards the end of my time living on the road. At that time it was a good option from the other two if you were in a hotel, but now living in Jersey it's all local all the time.
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I've never had Papa John's and it's gonna stay that way.
Amen
Dominos, Pizza Hut, Papa Johns, et al
Sorry I live in the Five Boros.
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Amen
Dominos, Pizza Hut, Papa Johns, et al
Sorry I live in the Five Boros.
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#blessed
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Schefter:
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, Patriots owner Robert Kraft and Texans owner Bob McNair, amongst others, will be deposed and asked to turn over all cell phone records and emails in relation to the Colin Kaepernick collusion case against the NFL, a league source confirmed. Others owners, teams and league officials also will be deposed, but those individuals have been confirmed for now.
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Schefter:
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, Patriots owner Robert Kraft and Texans owner Bob McNair, amongst others, will be deposed and asked to turn over all cell phone records and emails in relation to the Colin Kaepernick collusion case against the NFL, a league source confirmed. Others owners, teams and league officials also will be deposed, but those individuals have been confirmed for now.
Jerry Jones will be found to have a treasure trove of 70's porn on his phone. Full bush fever.
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I honestly can't believe that Papa John's wasn't sued for false advertising "better ingredients, better pizza"....... better than what? Dog jizz
Was it like a Domino's "oh yeah we totally used to suck but not anymore!" Slogan?
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Jerry Jones will be found to have a treasure trove of 70's porn on his phone. Full bush fever.
Kraft's should be entertaining.... "Sign Kaepernick or keep Brady?....let me get back to you."
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Was it like a Domino's "oh yeah we totally used to suck but not anymore!" Slogan?
Hahah yeah I think so.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/news/360067-gq-names-kaepernick-citizen-of-the-year
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Hahahahaha
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The alt right memes should be funny on that
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Haha why does a magazine for men have "woman of the year"?
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Was JJ Watt ineligible?
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Was JJ Watt ineligible?
It's not about any of that at all, GQ wants to generate a buzz to sell magazines and this definitely helps. No one gives a excrement about the magazine but here we are talking about it, and many people are going to read the article or buy the magazine to find out why he's their "citizen of the year".
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It's not about any of that at all, GQ wants to generate a buzz to sell magazines and this definitely helps. No one gives a excrement about the magazine but here we are talking about it, and many people are going to read the article or buy the magazine to find out why he's their "citizen of the year".
Trump doesn't mind
He's been voted "a$shole of the year" by more than 60% of Americans and the majority of the rest of the world too
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The alt right memes should be funny on that
"I just bought 40 issues of GQ so I could burn them! Suck it (((Soros)))!"
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It's not about any of that at all, GQ wants to generate a buzz to sell magazines and this definitely helps. No one gives a excrement about the magazine but here we are talking about it, and many people are going to read the article or buy the magazine to find out why he's their "citizen of the year".
Yeah, I was being facetious. I work for a magazine, the battle to try and stay relevant is real for a lot of them.
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Trump doesn't mind
He's been voted "a$shole of the year" by more than 60% of Americans and the majority of the rest of the world too
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Would you mind discussing a topic without bringing Trump up and filling your post with memes? I know you have good opinions, but you're instead wasting space by sticking to this character.
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After arranging for Colin Kaepernick to work out for the Seahawks this week, Seattle postponed the trip when the quarterback declined to stop kneeling during the national anthem next season, league sources tell ESPN.
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Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
The #Seahawks did postpone a tentatively scheduled workout with Colin Kaepernick, as @AdamSchefter reported. It was not because he said he declined to stop kneeling, tho. The team asked for his plan moving forward on how to handle everything and there was not a firm plan.
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https://twitter.com/markgeragos/status/992931323164680192?s=20
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@ShaunKing:BREAKING: Several star @NFL players have told me they are considering sitting out the season until the de facto ban of Eric Reid and Colin Kaepernick is removed and both men are given spots back on rosters.
They aim to get 25% of the players to sit out with them.
Stephen Hill has confirmed he won’t suit up until Kaep has a job
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For real though, Eric Reid should be on a roster.
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Another layer: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/nfl-owner-testifies-under-oath-that-he-changed-his-mind-about-hiring-kaepernick-after-trumps-comments/
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Another layer: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/nfl-owner-testifies-under-oath-that-he-changed-his-mind-about-hiring-kaepernick-after-trumps-comments/
If anything I would think this supports the NFL's position. You don't need to collude to not want to sign a guy that would make your franchise the target of the United States president and all the bad publicity that would come with it. Teams were weary of signing Vick for dog fighting (which is a way worse thing yes) because of protests and bad publicity that came with it.
Do you really want the president shitting on your franchise on national TV because you signed a guy who has kind of made football a non priority?
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Teams were weary of signing Vick for dog fighting (which is a way worse thing yes) because of protests and bad publicity that came with it.
Do you really want the president shitting on your franchise on national TV because you signed a guy who has kind of made football a non priority?
You hit the heart of it here. Vick was a good enough QB to deal with the nonsense that came with him, which as you mentioned was more offensive. Kaepernick is not, he opted out of the contract he had. He's an average QB who appears to be a dolt, who needs him? Apparently nobody.
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Kaep is objectively better than more than half the QBs on rosters around the league.
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Kaep is objectively better than more than half the QBs on rosters around the league.
Kaeps last season he was one of the worst QBs in football.
He showed enough in previous years that warranted another shot on another team.
But holy freak was he bad, he made Blaine Gabbert look comparatively good. So I'm going to call bullshit on him being objectively better than half the QBs around the league, unless you're including second and 3rd stringers. In which case who the freak wants a backup with major headaches surrounding him
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I said half the QBs on rosters, and meant it literally.
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I said half the QBs on rosters, and meant it literally.
In which case who wants a 2nd or 3rd stringer with that much controversy?
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In which case who wants a 2nd or 3rd stringer with that much controversy?
So you manufacture a controversy about him, and then justify his getting blackballed by the fact that he's too controversial. And you wonder why he's bringing a court case?
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So you manufacture a controversy about him, and then justify his getting blackballed by the fact that he's too controversial. And you wonder why he's bringing a court case?
What even is "racial injustice"? "Institutional racism"?
Glibittygoob! There, I can make up words too.
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So you manufacture a controversy about him, and then justify his getting blackballed by the fact that he's too controversial. And you wonder why he's bringing a court case?
Nobody manufactured the situation, he created it himself. Then he opted out of a contract that he had, the whole thing is 100% his doing.
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What even is "racial injustice"? "Institutional racism"?
Glibittygoob! There, I can make up words too.
"Institutional racism" means we can't prove anything, but trust us, you're racist.
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Nobody manufactured the situation, he created it himself. Then he opted out of a contract that he had, the whole thing is 100% his doing.
I can't be bothered to keep retyping the same thing for you to continually not understand, so I'll just quote it:
No, Kaep didn't start it at all. This wouldn't be a thing if everyone had said "huh, he's exercising his constitutionally protected right to protest against excrement he doesn't like. Look at that. Anyway, here comes the football game." Instead, we got a bunch of assholes egged on by the dickhead elements of the media squealing about how he hates soldiers and freedom and loves terrorists and rape, and here we are today. The issue isn't what he did, it's that a whole bunch of snowflakes got all verklempt about it. (And yes, the socks were dumb. But not the point.)
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I can't be bothered to keep retyping the same thing for you to continually not understand, so I'll just quote it:
You don't like the public opinion, so the public is at fault. Maybe he shouldn't have opted out of a contract that was overpaying him when he had no leverage.
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"Institutional racism" means we can't prove anything, but trust us, you're racist.
There needs to be a term for when people get overly defensive at any mention of racism.
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There needs to be a term for when people get overly defensive at any mention of racism.
One simple sentence is "overly defensive"? Ok.
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What even is "racial injustice"? "Institutional racism"?
Glibittygoob! There, I can make up words too.
Have you tried learning about it or was smug ignorance preferable?
Let's pretend this was the response to someone who actually thinks this.
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Have you tried learning about it or was smug ignorance preferable?
Wait..wut?
Do I really a need a /s tag with you?
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What even is "racial injustice"? "Institutional racism"?
Glibittygoob! There, I can make up words too.
Institutional racism is a pattern of social institutions (governmental organizations, schools etc) giving negative treatment to a group of people solely based on race.
racial injustice - this one is easier, let's break it down. Injustice - absence of justice or the violation of an individual or groups rights. Racial injustice would be the absence of justice to a group based on race.
This is for people that truly need it defined.
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freak it, just so no one lumps me on the wrong side of history here, I'm 100% behind guys kneeling for the anthem. Anyone who thinks institutional racism doesn't exist is lucky they've never experienced it.
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Wait..wut?
Do I really a need a /s tag with you?
I was at the pub
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freak it, just so no one lumps me on the wrong side of history here, I'm 100% behind guys kneeling for the anthem. Anyone who thinks institutional racism doesn't exist is lucky they've never experienced it.
lol i knew you were being sarcastic with that post. no worries
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You don't like the public opinion, so the public is at fault. Maybe he shouldn't have opted out of a contract that was overpaying him when he had no leverage.
"My team shouted louder so it's the public opinion!"
I think you'll find that the majority of people probably don't really give too much of a freak about players kneeling or sitting or scratching their bollocks during the national anthem. At least, that certainly seems to be the prevailing majority that I see; it's just that they aren't filling the spittle-inflecked online rags with their squeals and screams of "I WILL NEVER WATCH ANOTHER NFL GAME AS LONG AS I LIVE UNLESS PLAYERS ARE ALLOWED TO BE SOMETHING MORE THAN AUTOMATONS SMASHING THEIR BODIES UP FOR MY ENTERTAINMENT!"
Here's a direct analog for you; when Tim Thomas refused to go to the White House because he didn't like that the nasty black man was going to take away his arsenal and stop him living in a hole in the woods every summer, people who disagreed with his refusal to honour the age old sporting tradition didn't fill the airwaves with outraged screams about how he was a traitor who should probably leave America if he hated it so much. They largely said "that seems pretty dumb given the President receiving a national champion doesn't have anything to do with politics, but I suppose it's up to him" and that was it. No furore, no squealing, no sackcloth and ashes for the death of America.
Try putting things in context, and you'll deal with life a lot better.
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Why is it that 100% of the people who disagree with his politics also think he's an awful player?
Just once I'd like to see someone say "Even though I think he should be hanged for treason, with his talent and track record there must be a coach out there who can bring the best out of him again." At least I'd have to respect their honesty.
It's like how judges who call themselves constitutional originalists always coincidentally interpret the constitution to align exactly with their personal politics.
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So you manufacture a controversy about him, and then justify his getting blackballed by the fact that he's too controversial. And you wonder why he's bringing a court case?
I don't care who caused what in the past. The fact is if I'm an NFL team do I want the most controversial player in the league on my team as a freaking backup where the odds are be will never play football yet will be a constant source of media attention and bad press from the president?
If the dude played like Aaron Rodgers I'd go out and advocate for the Jets to sign him. But the dude isn't good, and isn't worth the baggage he brings
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I don't care who caused what in the past. The fact is if I'm an NFL team do I want the most controversial player in the league on my team as a freaking backup where the odds are be will never play football yet will be a constant source of media attention and bad press from the president?
If the dude played like Aaron Rodgers I'd go out and advocate for the Jets to sign him. But the dude isn't good, and isn't worth the baggage he brings
OK, but let's stop making Kaepernick the bad guy here. In the phrase "[he] will be a constant source of media attention and bad press from the president", the problem is not Kaepernick.
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"My team shouted louder so it's the public opinion!"
I think you'll find that the majority of people probably don't really give too much of a freak about players kneeling or sitting or scratching their bollocks during the national anthem. At least, that certainly seems to be the prevailing majority that I see; it's just that they aren't filling the spittle-inflecked online rags with their squeals and screams of "I WILL NEVER WATCH ANOTHER NFL GAME AS LONG AS I LIVE UNLESS PLAYERS ARE ALLOWED TO BE SOMETHING MORE THAN AUTOMATONS SMASHING THEIR BODIES UP FOR MY ENTERTAINMENT!"
Here's a direct analog for you; when Tim Thomas refused to go to the White House because he didn't like that the nasty black man was going to take away his arsenal and stop him living in a hole in the woods every summer, people who disagreed with his refusal to honour the age old sporting tradition didn't fill the airwaves with outraged screams about how he was a traitor who should probably leave America if he hated it so much. They largely said "that seems pretty dumb given the President receiving a national champion doesn't have anything to do with politics, but I suppose it's up to him" and that was it. No furore, no squealing, no sackcloth and ashes for the death of America.
Try putting things in context, and you'll deal with life a lot better.
I deal with life beautifully, thank you, and I don't need you smugly spewing your politics at me.
Here is the problem, Kaepernick is not a good enough QB to warrant someone dealing with the circus he created for himself. And he was dumb enough to opt out of the contract he had after doing so. His mistake. As dcm pointed out, Michael Vick did something worse, did time for it and still got a job out of prison--prison--because his ability warranted him another chance. He's also a black man, by the way, so you guys can drop the race baiting nonsense too.
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I deal with life beautifully, thank you, and I don't need you smugly spewing your politics at me.
Here is the problem, Kaepernick is not a good enough QB to warrant someone dealing with the circus he created for himself. And he was dumb enough to opt out of the contract he had after doing so. His mistake. As dcm pointed out, Michael Vick did something worse, did time for it and still got a job out of prison--prison--because his ability warranted him another chance. He's also a black man, by the way, so you guys can drop the race baiting nonsense too.
That's funny, because no one has brought Kaepernick's race into this conversation except you and it really has - or should have - nothing to do with politics.
The issue is nothing to do with how good or otherwise Kaepernick is as a football player. It's that the teams have allegedly colluded in direct contravention of the CBA to exclude someone from employment consideration, and you can bang the drum about how not good you think he is all you like but it remains of a complete irrelevance. The only thing now at trial is whether the owners colluded, and many signs appear to point to yes.
Of course, when he wins his case it's going to set off the same whining shitheads bleating about how unfair the whole thing is and here we go again, but if when it first happened people had just acted like mature adults and exercised a simple degree of rationale and perspective, none of this would have occurred.
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Why is it that 100% of the people who disagree with his politics also think he's an awful player?
Just once I'd like to see someone say "Even though I think he should be hanged for treason, with his talent and track record there must be a coach out there who can bring the best out of him again." At least I'd have to respect their honesty.
It's like how judges who call themselves constitutional originalists always coincidentally interpret the constitution to align exactly with their personal politics.
Probably because almost 100% of people think he's an awful player .
If Nancy Pelosi could get us to the big dance I'd take her as freaking quarterback
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Why is it that 100% of the people who disagree with his politics also think he's an awful player?
KAEPERNICK IS AN AWFUL PLAYER WHO JUST DOESN'T DESERVE A PLACE ON A ROSTER
Also:
Christian Hackenberg is currently on an NFL roster
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OK, but let's stop making Kaepernick the bad guy here. In the phrase "[he] will be a constant source of media attention and bad press from the president", the problem is not Kaepernick.
But nfl owners don't have the power to change the president or the media, they have the power to sign or not sign players.
And at the end of the day are you signing a guy who brings little if any positives, and a mountain of negative attention? I don't care whose fault anything is, that's irrelevant for the context of signing him. Hell you want to blame Trump for it that's more than reasonable. But the fact is this player draws the ire of the president or the United States. And if you're gonna sign someone with that kind of target on his back he better freaking be good and not a backup.
And yes I think it's absolutely freaking ludacris that the president of the United States spends his time attacking individuals on the campaign trail. Yes the dude made himself a political figure, and the president bringing it up once or twice is fine but drawing this excrement out is pathetic
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I deal with life beautifully, thank you, and I don't need you smugly spewing your politics at me.
Here is the problem, Kaepernick is not a good enough QB to warrant someone dealing with the circus he created for himself. And he was dumb enough to opt out of the contract he had after doing so. His mistake. As dcm pointed out, Michael Vick did something worse, did time for it and still got a job out of prison--prison--because his ability warranted him another chance. He's also a black man, by the way, so you guys can drop the race baiting nonsense too.
If only there was a huge piece of excrement with an audience of millions who was around at the time Vick reentered the NFL and could tell them how to feel. May have looked slightly different.
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Of course, when he wins his case it's going to set off the same whining shitheads bleating about how unfair the whole thing is and here we go again, but if when it first happened people had just acted like mature adults and exercised a simple degree of rationale and perspective, none of this would have occurred.
Just to throw my prediction out there, he's not going to win.
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Just to throw my prediction out there, he's not going to win.
I think they'll end up with some kind of settlement that involves the NFL financing a bunch of community initiatives with Kaepernick as the figurehead, because going to a verdict regardless of whose favour it lands in won't look good on anybody.
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I think they'll end up with some kind of settlement that involves the NFL financing a bunch of community initiatives with Kaepernick as the figurehead, because going to a verdict regardless of whose favour it lands in won't look good on anybody.
I don't know how good Kaeps lawyers are, but I somehow imagine the nfls billionaires will win.
Also it's my understanding that it's near impossible to win a collusion case
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I don't know how good Kaeps lawyers are, but I somehow imagine the nfls billionaires will win.
Also it's my understanding that it's near impossible to win a collusion case
Define "win". If your goal is to make the guys you're suing look like a bunch of devious, out of touch, weak pawns to the worst elements of the howling media and knuckledragging public, I'd say he's already about 80% of the way there.
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Define "win". If your goal is to make the guys you're suing look like a bunch of devious, out of touch, weak pawns to the worst elements of the howling media and knuckledragging public, I'd say he's already about 80% of the way there.
I'm talking about the collusion case.
Also in the court of public opinion Kaepernick has gotten dragged through the mud far worse than nfl owners
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I'm talking about the collusion case.
Also in the court of public opinion Kaepernick has gotten dragged through the mud far worse than nfl owners
I think I've made my view on "public opinion" pretty clear already. The loudest opinions are often not the most representative.
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I think I've made my view on "public opinion" pretty clear already. The loudest opinions are often not the most representative.
Maybe if you're talking among educated intellectuals. But make no mistake the masses are foaming at the mouth freaking morons (on both sides of the political aisle). After all look at who your president is, most people are only interested in the headlines. And nfl owners aren't in the headlines
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I don't know how good Kaeps lawyers are, but I somehow imagine the nfls billionaires will win.
Also it's my understanding that it's near impossible to win a collusion case
I know Geragos is good, I don't know if he has other lawyers besides him. Honestly not following the story super closely.
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Kaepernick has less than a 0% chance of winning this case. I know nothing about the case or it’s status, but, trust me- I’m an expert in Bird Law.
Barry Bonds lost his collusion case against the MLB when he couldn’t get a job after the following season: .480 on-base percentage, a 1.045 OPS and 28 home runs in 126 games. It’s impossible to prove.
Do you honestly believe signing Colin Kaepernick is a good business decision for an NFL owner?
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Do you honestly believe signing Colin Kaepernick is a good business decision for an NFL owner?
It's completely immaterial if you're an owner.
Owning a team without Kaep: super freaking rich
Owning a team with Kaep: super freaking rich
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It's completely immaterial if you're an owner.
Owning a team without Kaep: super freaking rich
Owning a team with Kaep: super freaking rich
What you’re saying is correct, but we have so many examples of owners and rich businessmen prioritizing making money over every single thing else, even if it is marginal. Team owners aren’t going to willingly make decisions that will cost them money, especially if it figures to be a player that shouldn’t even play.
The new kneeling/flag rule they just passed is for financial reasons first and foremost, at the cost of what they absolutely knew was going to be a huge image backlash.
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Kaepernick has less than a 0% chance of winning this case. I know nothing about the case or it’s status, but, trust me- I’m an expert in Bird Law.
Barry Bonds lost his collusion case against the MLB when he couldn’t get a job after the following season: .480 on-base percentage, a 1.045 OPS and 28 home runs in 126 games. It’s impossible to prove.
Do you honestly believe signing Colin Kaepernick is a good business decision for an NFL owner?
I think it depends upon the team, but yeah, I think it would work just fine for quite a few.
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I think it depends upon the team, but yeah, I think it would work just fine for quite a few.
Whether you think Kaep is good or not, he's been out of the league a year at this point and will likely alienate a not insignificant part of any team's fanbase. Him being a marginally better backup for say, the Panthers is most definitely not worth the headache that will come with signing him whether it's Kaep's personal fault or not.
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Kaeps last season he was one of the worst QBs in football.
He showed enough in previous years that warranted another shot on another team.
But holy freak was he bad, he made Blaine Gabbert look comparatively good. So I'm going to call bullshit on him being objectively better than half the QBs around the league, unless you're including second and 3rd stringers. In which case who the freak wants a backup with major headaches surrounding him
Regardless of what you think of him as a football player, there's this:
"In this civil case, there’s no doubt that the existing coaches — and I’m talking about Super Bowl-winning coaches — have testified under oath that he’s a starting quarterback in this league, and so that’s mind boggling,” Geragos said. “When you ask them … specifically why he isn’t he being hired … they say because of the national anthem policy."
His last season was also not nearly as bad as you are making it out to be. He wasn't great, but that 49ers team was horrible around him, and he still had over a 90 passer rating, had a combined 18TDs, and only 4 picks. But, like JE said, this has little to do with his ability to play football, and everything to do with collusion.
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The "Kaep is a terrible player" narrative is partly fed by the death of nuance we saw several years ago when it comes to QB evaluation, where everyone is either elite or trash. Nothing in between.
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The "Kaep is a terrible player" narrative is partly fed by the death of nuance we saw several years ago when it comes to QB evaluation, where everyone is either elite or trash. Nothing in between.
I’ve been on record as saying I didn’t like Kaep far back before he started kneeling. Most of my dislike comes from the Green Bay playoff game, how instantly overrated he became, and Ron Jaworski saying he’s the greatest QB of all time
I agree with what you said about him being more talented than half the QBs in the NFL
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I’ve been on record as saying I didn’t like Kaep far back before he started kneeling. Most of my dislike comes from the Green Bay playoff game, how instantly overrated he became, and Ron Jaworski saying he’s the greatest QB of all time
Also his face
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Maybe we can sign him to block for Darnold
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Regardless of what you think of him as a football player, there's this:
His last season was also not nearly as bad as you are making it out to be. He wasn't great, but that 49ers team was horrible around him, and he still had over a 90 passer rating, had a combined 18TDs, and only 4 picks. But, like JE said, this has little to do with his ability to play football, and everything to do with collusion.
That doesn't mean collusion, it means he's controversial and his limited talent isn't worth the controversy.
If Robbie Anderson went out and got a swastika tattooed on his arm and nobody signed him would you say it's because of collusion? Or because the level of skill/talent he brings isn't worth the controversy it brings?
It's absolutely possible that collusion is keeping him from a job. It's much much more likely that nobody wants a mediocre QB who is extremely polarizing to many in the country (whether warranted or not irrelevant to this discussion) and is a frequent target of the president of the United States and any media attention that brings.
Yes Kaepernick is talented enough to belong on an NFL roster. And he's also controversial enough to not end up on one
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I think Kaep has completely given up on ever having a career in the NFL. At this point, he's fighting so the story doesn't just get swept aside.
Personally, I think what he's doing is admirable. He's someone with the means and the time to invest in keeping a socially relevant discussion in the public eye, where the vast majority of its victims have no voice at all.
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I think Kaep has completely given up on ever having a career in the NFL. At this point, he's fighting so the story doesn't just get swept aside.
Personally, I think what he's doing is admirable. He's someone with the means and the time to invest in keeping a socially relevant discussion in the public eye, where the vast majority of its victims have no voice at all.
That’s a good question Alio- why don’t other black QBs kneel?
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That’s a good question Alio- why don’t other black QBs kneel?
I think every individual has to make up their own mind to do or not do it. That goes for every white or Hispanic player also and isn't just limited to the QB position--as we've seen.
What it comes down to for me is: Kaepernick knew he was starting a firestorm when he knelt. He then continued to do so, knowing full well the furor it was raising. But he had a firm belief in his platform and was willing to continue to risk his job to make his point. He paid a price that he knew could be the cost.
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That’s a good question Alio- why don’t other black QBs kneel?
It's almost like the exercising of free speech is a matter for one's individual conscience and that people of a similar skin colour and job role might hold different views to each other, or choose to express their views in different ways and to varying degrees. Funny old world, innit?
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What it comes down to for me is: Kaepernick knew he was starting a firestorm when he knelt. He then continued to do so, knowing full well the furor it was raising. But he had a firm belief in his platform and was willing to continue to risk his job to make his point. He paid a price that he knew could be the cost.
He also only started to do it once he had lost his starting job. Unless he woke up in 2016 and realized racial injustice was a thing
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It's almost like the exercising of free speech is a matter for one's individual conscience and that people of a similar skin colour and job role might hold different views to each other, or choose to express their views in different ways and to varying degrees. Funny old world, innit?
Great so we’re on the same page
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He also only started to do it once he had lost his starting job. Unless he woke up in 2016 and realized racial injustice was a thing
Or maybe that's just when he decided it was a fight worth fighting?
I mean, I know, it's crazy, but some people actually change over time.
I'm really not sure what argument you're trying to make. Is there a reason you're being intentionally vague?
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Or maybe that's just when he decided it was a fight worth fighting?
I mean, I know, it's crazy, but some people actually change over time.
I'm really not sure what argument you're trying to make. Is there a reason you're being intentionally vague?
My point was that he only “risked his job” once he had already lost it to Blaine Gabbert and didn’t have the opportunity to make tens of millions of dollars anymore. Maybe that’s what changed.
Start protesting at your job and see how long you stay employed. It doesn’t really matter what your message is or how right you are.
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My point was that he only “risked his job” once he had already lost it to Blaine Gabbert and didn’t have the opportunity to make tens of millions of dollars anymore. Maybe that’s what changed.
Start protesting at your job and see how long you stay employed. It doesn’t really matter what your message is or how right you are.
I'm not disagreeing with the bolded in any way. I've never cost myself a job, but I was once suspended in high school for attending a protest and loudly--and falsely--representing my school at a rally.
Actions have consequences.
Kaepernick was almost certainly aware of that. You say he only did it once he'd lost his starting job. Okay. But he was still employed. And at that point, he could possibly have found another team to give him a shot. He chose his platform over his career.
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I'm not disagreeing with the bolded in any way. I've never cost myself a job, but I was once suspended in high school for attending a protest and loudly--and falsely--representing my school at a rally.
Yeah you're gonna need to tell me this story.
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"My team shouted louder so it's the public opinion!"
I think you'll find that the majority of people probably don't really give too much of a freak about players kneeling or sitting or scratching their bollocks during the national anthem. At least, that certainly seems to be the prevailing majority that I see; it's just that they aren't filling the spittle-inflecked online rags with their squeals and screams of "I WILL NEVER WATCH ANOTHER NFL GAME AS LONG AS I LIVE UNLESS PLAYERS ARE ALLOWED TO BE SOMETHING MORE THAN AUTOMATONS SMASHING THEIR BODIES UP FOR MY ENTERTAINMENT!"
Here's a direct analog for you; when Tim Thomas refused to go to the White House because he didn't like that the nasty black man was going to take away his arsenal and stop him living in a hole in the woods every summer, people who disagreed with his refusal to honour the age old sporting tradition didn't fill the airwaves with outraged screams about how he was a traitor who should probably leave America if he hated it so much. They largely said "that seems pretty dumb given the President receiving a national champion doesn't have anything to do with politics, but I suppose it's up to him" and that was it. No furore, no squealing, no sackcloth and ashes for the death of America.
Try putting things in context, and you'll deal with life a lot better.
I disagree vehemently with your first paragraph. People are pissed. If you want to take issue with that, belittle their stance on the topic or do both, thats your prerogative, but this idea that most people don't care flies in the face of the entire uproar that the kneeling has caused. Trump didn't kick off the outrage, he capitalized on it. But I know some normally apolitical people, who are lifelong football fans who would not watch last year because someone in their family, a close friend, or maybe themselves fought and served under that flag, and they perceived it as complete disrespect. IMHO, it's more of a generational thing, as I saw the "I'm not watching attitude" to be more prevalent among boomers as opposed to people my age or younger.
Regarding Thomas, that is a misrepresentation of what happened further made laughable by your characterization of why Thomas didn't want to go.
The media went batshit. From SI to HuffPo, and those that are now discussing, "free speech" rights in the context of an employer establishing a code of conduct for its employees when they're on company time were KILLING Thomas for his decision.
As far as Kaepernick, what's lost in this whole discussion about any sort of collusion to keep him out of the league is that the man had the equivalent of an interview lined up with the Ravens, only for his girlfriend to publicly call the owner of the company with which he was interviewing a "slave driver" and the greatest employee in said companies history, "an Uncle Tom." In what universe would that not be fatal to any job application?
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This is freaking awesome.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24568359/colin-kaepernick-face-nike-just-do-30th-anniversary-campaign
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This is freaking awesome.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24568359/colin-kaepernick-face-nike-just-do-30th-anniversary-campaign
His head is so annoying to look at. What do they do? Zoom in on it for the ad.
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TIL “sacrificing everything” = a contract paying you millions of dollars. Interesting take
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TIL “sacrificing everything” = a contract paying you millions of dollars. Interesting take
I also have a negative take on this but with actual substance - it's silly that a Nike ad campaign is supposed to constitute some act of wokeness and isn't just a corporation trying to commodify social justice.
On the other hand it is going to make a lot of guys with hot dog neck really mad so maybe it's good.
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I also have a negative take on this but with actual substance - it's silly that a Nike ad campaign is supposed to constitute some act of wokeness and isn't just a corporation trying to commodify social justice.
On the other hand it is going to make a lot of guys with hot dog neck really mad so maybe it's good.
I’m fine with it - I’m one of Nike’s biggest supporters. I think Colin Kaepernick deserves a shoe line just as much as Paul George does. But this is a marketing gimmick and people should recognize it for what it is.
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And it's grounds for great comedy.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sp0rtsTalkJo3/status/1036716105346232321?s=19(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180904/1ddd592e81a2c5092b5672cf01b35adf.jpg)
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itshappening.gif
https://mobile.twitter.com/johnrich/status/1036751396002050050?s=21
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And it's grounds for great comedy.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sp0rtsTalkJo3/status/1036716105346232321?s=19(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180904/1ddd592e81a2c5092b5672cf01b35adf.jpg)
Barry is wonderful. He loves the troops.
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Seen a lot of burning/cutting videos... they already have all of your money dumbfucks... and stand to lose less than nothing from a boycott. This is free advertising
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This was up for about an hour before some editor realized Barry McCockiner might not be real.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180904/a1727c7f41f809e6449aea53b4e1905d.jpg)
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Someone is gonna assassinate Colin K
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I’m fine with it - I’m one of Nike’s biggest supporters. I think Colin Kaepernick deserves a shoe line just as much as Paul George does. But this is a marketing gimmick and people should recognize it for what it is.
Of course it is, but it's a brilliant marketing gimmick. Fat middle aged white dudes aren't Nike's key market. They know exactly what they're doing.
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Seen a lot of burning/cutting videos... they already have all of your money dumbfucks... and stand to lose less than nothing from a boycott. This is free advertising
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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For the cost of a single tweet, Nike bought thousands of hours of angry rednecks brandishing their name and logo on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, etc. Gotta respect the cleverness of it all. If I was an Asian Nike slave I'd be pretty, pretty, pretty proud of my company right about now.
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https://twitter.com/ahmadinejad1956/status/1036685396837625856?s=21
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Ahmadinejad understands SBTG.
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I WILL NO LONGER JACK OFF INTO NIKE SOCKS
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Ahahaha! Yes.
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https://www.theonion.com/competitive-adidas-unveils-darren-wilson-as-new-face-of-1828804006
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2018/sep/05/nike-colin-kaepernick-advert
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Are those baby shoes
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Are those baby shoes
That's the joke.
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For MB. There's a million of these now.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180906/16c9bfe2380f689d546bfca5ba3c2e00.jpg)
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That's the joke.
I’ve seen pictures of that guy, wasn’t sure if that was a spoof or not.
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For MB. There's a million of these now.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180906/16c9bfe2380f689d546bfca5ba3c2e00.jpg)
my new desktop wallpaper.
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Kaep is a dumb sack of excrement that sacrificed nothing, and people that place any energy into his protest or this ad campaign one way or another are retards...
...but the level of meme that has been spawned from this advertisement has made it all worth it.
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I don't care enough about this whole thing to give a excrement what Nike or Kaep is doing. But does anyone think this is a good thing for Nike? Obviously this has gotten an obsence amount of publicity for Nike which I imagine was their goal. But it also has drawn them a lot of negative attention as well suddenly being associated with politics
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I don't care enough about this whole thing to give a excrement what Nike or Kaep is doing. But does anyone think this is a good thing for Nike? Obviously this has gotten an obsence amount of publicity for Nike which I imagine was their goal. But it also has drawn them a lot of negative attention as well suddenly being associated with politics
You're absolutely right random internet guy, if only the hugely experienced and capable teams of people who run that multi-billion dollar organisation had thought what the possible ramifications could be for them and how it might impact their bottom line. Maybe you should offer your services, they've clearly missing your vision.
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I don't care enough about this whole thing to give a excrement what Nike or Kaep is doing. But does anyone think this is a good thing for Nike? Obviously this has gotten an obsence amount of publicity for Nike which I imagine was their goal. But it also has drawn them a lot of negative attention as well suddenly being associated with politics
Read JE's Guardian link.
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You're absolutely right random internet guy, if only the hugely experienced and capable teams of people who run that multi-billion dollar organisation had thought what the possible ramifications could be for them and how it might impact their bottom line. Maybe you should offer your services, they've clearly missing your vision.
I didn't say anything condemning. Hell I flat out said it achieved their goal of getting massive publicity (which it has) and it associated them with politics, which is polarizing, which it is. I certainly didn't say it's an uttah diasaster and they're gonna lose billions. I don't know why you have to be so freaking dramatic
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I didn't say anything condemning. Hell I flat out said it achieved their goal of getting massive publicity (which it has) and it associated them with politics, which is polarizing, which it is. I certainly didn't say it's an uttah diasaster and they're gonna lose billions. I don't know why you have to be so freaking dramatic
Your question was "But does anyone think this is a good thing for Nike?" to which the answer is "yes, everyone with half a brain thinks this is a good thing for Nike". They're one of the most well put together and effective marketing machines in the entire business world; to suggest that they haven't already mapped this out and considered every single outcome and possibility before doing it is asinine, and therefore to even suggest that they're wrong is the height of arrogance.
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Your question was "But does anyone think this is a good thing for Nike?" to which the answer is "yes, everyone with half a brain thinks this is a good thing for Nike". They're one of the most well put together and effective marketing machines in the entire business world; to suggest that they haven't already mapped this out and considered every single outcome and possibility before doing it is asinine, and therefore to even suggest that they're wrong is the height of arrogance.
Yes they consider every possibility, not every possibility is good. Companies have, and will do stupid things. Not every move pays off, and having Trump bang his chest attacking Nike probably isn't ideal. After all Trumps war path had an impact on the NFL that they still haven't recovered from. Also look at papa John's, their face of the franchise decided to be a political freak, and it very clearly hurt their image and lead to him getting fired (among him being a racist).
I did frame it in a more negative way than I should, but its also humorous because Kaepernick was never successful enough as a player to get any significant advertisements, but he does as a political figure
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I never liked Colin Kaepernick since he’s a freaking tool. Can care less about the whole Nike thing and am tired of the dumb meme posts about it 5 minutes after they started. It’s possible Russian agents convinced Nike elite to run the ad.
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Yes they consider every possibility, not every possibility is good. Companies have, and will do stupid things. Not every move pays off, and having Trump bang his chest attacking Nike probably isn't ideal. After all Trumps war path had an impact on the NFL that they still haven't recovered from. Also look at papa John's, their face of the franchise decided to be a political freak, and it very clearly hurt their image and lead to him getting fired (among him being a racist).
[this is your brain on centrism]
Do drugs, kids. Or you'll end up like this.
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After all Trumps war path had an impact on the NFL that they still haven't recovered from.
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What impact is that, exactly?
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https://thebaffler.com/latest/something-for-nothing-friedman
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What impact is that, exactly?
Chud Truckley of Cincinnatus, NY cancelled his Sunday Ticket.
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What impact is that, exactly?
NFL ratings declined by 10% last year. I'm sure there's plenty of things that's attributable to though
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NFL ratings declined by 10% last year. I'm sure there's plenty of things that's attributable to though
Damn, I heard Jerry Jones is moving into a trailer park after being financially devastated by a ratings blip.
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https://deadspin.com/report-nfl-will-not-have-national-anthem-policy-this-s-1828919381
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https://twitter.com/JeffYuma/status/1039175644406407168?s=19
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https://twitter.com/JeffYuma/status/1039175644406407168?s=19
LMAO.. you can’t corner the Dorner
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Bill Polian told The Athletic that CEO Charlie Ebersol reached out to former 49ers QB Colin Kapernick about playing in the league.
“I don’t know what transpired, but he’s obviously not playing,” Polian said.
According to the Associated Press, Kaepernick wanted $20M or more to consider playing with the league. All players in the AFF get a 3-year, non-guaranteed contract worth $250K. Players can leave the league to go to the NFL.
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Bill Polian told The Athletic that CEO Charlie Ebersol reached out to former 49ers QB Colin Kapernick about playing in the league.
“I don’t know what transpired, but he’s obviously not playing,” Polian said.
According to the Associated Press, Kaepernick wanted $20M or more to consider playing with the league. All players in the AFF get a 3-year, non-guaranteed contract worth $250K. Players can leave the league to go to the NFL.
but muh collusion to keep him out of the league
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Kaep isn't even a good QB. freak that guy.
Go kneel for the Glasgow Diamonds
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I was thinking about this when I saw the news yesterday. At this point, it's in Kaep's best interest to not play again, especially in the non-NFL.
If he does play and sucks, it badly hurts his position that he was being kept out because of his stance--regardless of whether that's why or not.
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I was thinking about this when I saw the news yesterday. At this point, it's in Kaep's best interest to not play again, especially in the non-NFL.
If he does play and sucks, it badly hurts his position that he was being kept out because of his stance--regardless of whether that's why or not.
At the same time, I would expect the NFL to formulate the argument that Kaep isn't serious about ever playing football again, for if he were he would have accepted a six figure contract in another league.
You're a million percent correct on this point, but I'm just saying there's sure to be a counter argument.
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Kaep isn't even a good QB. freak that guy.
Go kneel for the Glasgow Diamonds
This. If he was remotely good he'd have gotten an offer. Can't say it enough, Michael Vick got another shot when he left prison because he was a good QB.
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Kaep's collusion suit has been settled and is subject to complete confidentiality so no details are going to be shared of the results.
This is completely me assuming, but I think it has to mean the NFL gave Kaepernick a lot of money under the condition that he shut up and go away.
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Kaep's collusion suit has been settled and is subject to complete confidentiality so no details are going to be shared of the results.
This is completely me assuming, but I think it has to mean the NFL gave Kaepernick a lot of money under the condition that he shut up and go away.
Most likely. This is certainly better for them than the publicity of a long publicly dragged out case
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Kap never asked for $20 mil from AAF
https://www.totalprosports.com/2019/02/15/turns-out-colin-kaepernick-asking-aaf-for-20m-to-play-was-a-complete-lie/?fbclid=IwAR2CM4CAMnXDy-yRemDDMBkJ3nlluGUFoEnLl5duzxb9LAKqkA2I_vaMkcA
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People falling for fake stories about Kaepernick and $20mil AAF demands. Whatever you think about him as a player or person, thatbstory isnt true.
Wonder who "leaked" it right ahead of the settlement announcement though?
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Totally an anti-Kaep leak. $20 million is ludicrous. AAF first-year salary is $70,000. 52 players on a team, eight teams, so entire league makes a combined $29.1 million.
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Right. And AAF source I talked to said they never discussed money with him or Tebow
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It's not documented by multiple outlets. One outlet claimed 1 anonymous source and everybody repeated it
Per my sources in the AAF they reached out to both Tebow and Kaepernick, and both declined. No money was discussed.
My my, who would possibly lie about this? Who would possibly want to create a negative publicity story the same day a settlement is announced that keeps all the emails, conversations, documents, etc in the collusion case private before it goes to trial?
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Kap never asked for $20 mil from AAF
https://www.totalprosports.com/2019/02/15/turns-out-colin-kaepernick-asking-aaf-for-20m-to-play-was-a-complete-lie/?fbclid=IwAR2CM4CAMnXDy-yRemDDMBkJ3nlluGUFoEnLl5duzxb9LAKqkA2I_vaMkcA
My my, who would possibly lie about this? Who would possibly want to create a negative publicity story the same day a settlement is announced that keeps all the emails, conversations, documents, etc in the collusion case private before it goes to trial?
I'm no lawyer, but wouldn't the point of a settlement be so it doesn't go to trial?
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Yes.
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Kaepernick did opt out of his $10 million dollar contact, so it wouldn't be the first time he's over valued himself. That said, I don't see where The Alliance would be getting their money's worth for $20 million on him. Why take on the same side show that hurt the NFL?
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Kaepernick did opt out of his $10 million dollar contact, so it wouldn't be the first time he's over valued himself. That said, I don't see where The Alliance would be getting their money's worth for $20 million on him. Why take on the same side show that hurt the NFL?
Why are you attempting to debate the merits of a made up story?
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Why are you attempting to debate the merits of a made up story?
If I was debating I would have quoted someone and taken issue with them. I'm just providing some context and opinion on a discussion forum. Sorry if I hit a nerve.
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If I was debating I would have quoted someone and taken issue with them. I'm just providing some context and opinion on a discussion forum. Sorry if I hit a nerve.
No nerve hit at all, you're simply debating the story itself. You said:
I don't see where The Alliance would be getting their money's worth for $20 million on him. Why take on the same side show that hurt the NFL?
No one does, including presumably Colin Kaepernick. It's a completely meritless point to consider.
Tune in next week to hear Italian Seafood's thoughts on why MBGreen shouldn't be in consideration to lead Donald Trump's Space Force.
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No nerve hit at all, you're simply debating the story itself. You said:
No one does, including presumably Colin Kaepernick. It's a completely meritless point to consider.
Tune in next week to hear Italian Seafood's thoughts on why MBGreen shouldn't be in consideration to lead Donald Trump's Space Force.
WHAT. My application was in three weeks ago.
Anyway, my own personal opinion on this is that the NFL could have very easily pointed to Kaep's disastrous and brief flirtation with the Ravens as proof that there wasn't collusion and it was both his actions and the actions of the people around him that kept him out of the league, but there's something that was revealed during discovery that the NFL just didn't want out there and paid for the privilege of keeping it quiet. Looking at the demographics of the owners, its not hard to imagine that someone probably said something that if it was made public would create a firestorm that the league would rather just pay not to deal with.
I just want to make this point though. Kaep had what is essentially a job interview lined up. His girlfriend the day before the workout with the Ravens was to take place, took to the airwaves to call the owner a slave driver and the franchise icon an Uncle Tom. How is that not going to extremely negatively affect his ability to gain employment? You offer the guy a job opportunity and that's the very public reaction from the people close to him?
Goodell fucked this whole situation up from jump, and its a prime example of why Jerruh was totally correct in wanting to fire his derriere.
Also, considering the high and mighty Washington Post is running the, "Kaep turned 20 million to play in the AAF" story are you calling them...fake...news?
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No nerve hit at all, you're simply debating the story itself. You said:
No one does, including presumably Colin Kaepernick. It's a completely meritless point to consider.
Tune in next week to hear Italian Seafood's thoughts on why MBGreen shouldn't be in consideration to lead Donald Trump's Space Force.
Yup, hit a nerve.
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Yup, hit a nerve.
You're right, you got me. I do get very upset when faced with insurmountable levels of stupid.
I realise it will be difficult for you, but please try not to hit that nerve in future.
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You're right, you got me. I do get very upset when faced with insurmountable levels of stupid.
I realise it will be difficult for you, but please try not to hit that nerve in future.
The person that comes off stupid in this thread is you
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The person that comes off stupid in this thread is you
While I rarely agree with JE, the notion that kaepernick expected almost as much from them as the entire league makes is absurd. kaepernick might be an arrogant freak who dramatically overvalued himself, but I highly doubt he asked them for 20m a year so yes debating this story is ridiculous.
Especially because any agent who represented kaepernick in such obscene negotiations would just be killing their own practice
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You guys are forgetting the most important part of this story being that Kaepernick is a dumbass and an attention whore.
Go wear another Fidel Castro shirt
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Also, considering the high and mighty Washington Post is running the, "Kaep turned 20 million to play in the AAF" story are you calling them...fake...news?
they were reporting based off the one tweet that nobody was able to corroborate, just like every other outlet.
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they were reporting based off the one tweet that nobody was able to corroborate, just like every other outlet.
...Christ its like the point that WaPo is excrement went right over your head.
If your sole source of a story is an uncorroborated tweet, don't run the story.
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...Christ its like the point that WaPo is excrement went right over your head.
If your sole source of a story is an uncorroborated tweet, don't run the story.
i didnt realize/care if you were making some "point". i dont disagree, it was shitty reporting for all those media outlets to run with some bs tweet. i just dont know why we are making an issue out of one report as opposed to all of them. fox ran it, cnn ran it, drudge ran it, wapo ran. all outlets on both sides, it wasn't partisan it was stupid.
anyways, have fun.
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The XFL has had talks with Colin Kaepernick about joining the spring league, an XFL spokesman confirmed to Michael McCarthy of The Sporting News.
The discussions took place last fall, and the former 49ers quarterback asked for at least $20 million, McCarthy reports. That’s the same amount the Associated Press reported Kaepernick sought from the Alliance of American Football to play in that spring league.
Lol
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Lol
I dont get what's comical. If a start up is trying to hire you but wants to pay you at half your value why would you agree to that deal? You dont lower your salary because of what a employee can pay you.
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i didnt realize/care if you were making some "point". i dont disagree, it was shitty reporting for all those media outlets to run with some bs tweet. i just dont know why we are making an issue out of one report as opposed to all of them. fox ran it, cnn ran it, drudge ran it, wapo ran. all outlets on both sides, it wasn't partisan it was stupid.
anyways, have fun.
1. Drudge didn't run it.
Thanks for listing corporate media like they aren't all excrement. Which is the point. Some of us happen to get this, some of us don't.
Anyway, I'm starting to think that ole Ben Albright had it wrong considering this latest report.
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I dont get what's comical. If a start up is trying to hire you but wants to pay you at half your value why would you agree to that deal? You dont lower your salary because of what a employee can pay you.
His value as a QB is about nothing. He's making money off the field by being a fake martyr after opting out of his contract and refusing to sign anywhere. If he showed up somewhere now and exposed himself as a shitty QB he'd blow up his own scam at this point.
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Reached out to source close to @Kaepernick7 and asked if he was interested in filling Miami QB vacancy. Was told “yes, he’s training hard and ready to play” could get interesting
La Canfora
I’m on board with this
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1182395272141430784?s=09
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1182395272141430784?s=09
How interesting that they omitted the fact that the Ravens were going to bring him in and on the eve of his scheduled workout his girlfriend took to twitter to compare Steve Biscotti to a slave owner and Ray Lewis to an Uncle Tom.
I'm sure omitting that fact is purely coincidental.
Anyone who saw Kaep play his final year as a starter and thinks he's still a starter isn't very smart.
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Bait taken
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All they have to do is show footage of Falk starting for us and Kaep's case is won
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How interesting that they omitted the fact that the Ravens were going to bring him in and on the eve of his scheduled workout his girlfriend took to twitter to compare Steve Biscotti to a slave owner and Ray Lewis to an Uncle Tom.
I'm sure omitting that fact is purely coincidental.
Anyone who saw Kaep play his final year as a starter and thinks he's still a starter isn't very smart.
What a terrible argument. You're better than this, try again without the drool on the keys.
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Bait taken
mj can hear a dog whistle from half an internet away.
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https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1194376317749354502?s=21
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Hope he enjoys practicing to crickets
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I wonder if any teams actually go
And if they do, if it's just for show
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What a terrible argument. You're better than this, try again without the drool on the keys.
What a shitty comeback. Absolutely nothing of substance, probably because you're barely scratching the level of functional retard at this point.
mj can hear a dog whistle from half an internet away.
Lol "dog-whistle"
Back to tumblr with your stupid freaking terminology.
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https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/1194627517707149312
Sounds like he's being set up to fail somewhat, and I'm not sure he needs much help with that at this stage. That said, our current backup is David Fales. I'd give Kaepernick the job without a second thought and the butthurt from some fans would only be a bonus.
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https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/1194627517707149312
Sounds like he's being set up to fail somewhat, and I'm not sure he needs much help with that at this stage. That said, our current backup is David Fales. I'd give Kaepernick the job without a second thought and the butthurt from some fans would only be a bonus.
Ignoring the whole political side of things and purely focusing on football related stuff.
I would've been okay with signing Kaep when we had Fitz or McCown.
But do you really want Kaep putting pressure on Darnold while we're struggling? Do you want fans asking for him to start?
It's not like Kaep is a role model and leader who would help Darnold out. Someone like Sanchez or McCown would be a different story. But for a fully rebuilding team, I don't see Kaep bringing anything positive to the team. He's unquestionably better than Fales or Falk or whatever garbage we utilized (or at least used to be before he gave up on football). But it just doesn't make sense to me.
An older QB, who nobody would ever suggest is a good mentor and was dependent on athletic ability.
I'd either want someone young with potential, or older who has good leadership or mentor abilities
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Ignoring the whole political side of things and purely focusing on football related stuff.
I would've been okay with signing Kaep when we had Fitz or McCown.
But do you really want Kaep putting pressure on Darnold while we're struggling? Do you want fans asking for him to start?
It's not like Kaep is a role model and leader who would help Darnold out. Someone like Sanchez or McCown would be a different story. But for a fully rebuilding team, I don't see Kaep bringing anything positive to the team. He's unquestionably better than Fales or Falk or whatever garbage we utilized (or at least used to be before he gave up on football). But it just doesn't make sense to me.
An older QB, who nobody would ever suggest is a good mentor and was dependent on athletic ability.
I'd either want someone young with potential, or older who has good leadership or mentor abilities
Literally no one would call for Kaep to play over Darnold. Not even the most deranged of Jets fans would want Kaep over a healthy Sam.
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Literally no one would call for Kaep to play over Darnold. Not even the most deranged of Jets fans would want Kaep over a healthy Sam.
You underestimate a certain population of people. If you don’t believe me check the Jets Facebook page, they’re probably already chirping
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It's not like Kaep is a role model and leader who would help Darnold out. Someone like Sanchez or McCown would be a different story.
How would Sanchez be a better role model than Kaep? Sanchez literally got caught fvcking teenage girls and then was caught hanging out with underage girls flashing his derriere which was posted to social media. Sanchez did all of that
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How would Sanchez be a better role model than Kaep? Sanchez literally got caught fvcking teenage girls and then was caught hanging out with underage girls flashing his derriere which was posted to social media. Sanchez did all of that
Quite a few Dads would prefer their son freaking and mooning teenage chicks vs. kneeling for the anthem. So go freak yourself, you just proved Sanchez is a better role model.
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Quite a few Dads would prefer their son freaking and mooning teenage chicks vs. kneeling for the anthem. So go freak yourself, you just proved Sanchez is a better role model.
Our current franchise QB could have had his career derailed from a traumatic spleen injury had we not figured out that he had mono when he did.
With a guy like Sanchez functioning as a 'mentor', Sam's career trajectory will consist of going from EBV to HIV.
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How would Sanchez be a better role model than Kaep? Sanchez literally got caught fvcking teenage girls and then was caught hanging out with underage girls flashing his derriere which was posted to social media. Sanchez did all of that
Because while Sanchez was freaking teenage girls do you remember him getting mono? Me either
Darnold is 22, there's a good chance he may have been freaking some teenage gals lately. Regardless Sanchez was praised for being a mentor with Dak, and was an excellent leader when here. Two things nobody ever said about Kaep
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Because while Sanchez was freaking teenage girls do you remember him getting mono? Me either
Darnold is 22, there's a good chance he may have been freaking some teenage gals lately. Regardless Sanchez was praised for being a mentor with Dak, and was an excellent leader when here. Two things nobody ever said about Kaep
Lol
Who was kaep supposed to be a mentor for in his 4th year in the league?
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Lol
Who was kaep supposed to be a mentor for in his 4th year in the league?
Doesn't matter to me
At the end of the day Sanchez has been an admirable leader and backup, Kaep has been polarizing and has questionable leadership skills.
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There should be a different word than polarizing when the group being moved to extreme reaction are garbage people.
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There should be a different word than polarizing when the group being moved to extreme reaction are garbage people.
Yeah, everyone who has a problem with him is a "garbage person."
What nonsense.
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Yeah, everyone who has a problem with him is a "garbage person."
What nonsense.
You're right, most of them are just oversensitive, and some of them have "if a QB isn't elite he's trash" disease.
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There should be a different word than polarizing when the group being moved to extreme reaction are garbage people.
Who cares about extreme reactions.
Did his teammates give a excrement or have his back when he was benched?
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You're right, most of them are just oversensitive, and some of them have "if a QB isn't elite he's trash" disease.
Pretty much.
This seems like a sham practice just meant to make the NFL look good. Goodell probably realizes what happened to Kaepernick will be part of his story as commissioner, so he's trying desperate measures to kinda/sorta fix it. It's just strange all around.
Also, I like the narrative DCM is making up now that Kaepernick isn't a leader. People just make excrement up because they don't like his politics and they want to justify it.
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Pretty much.
This seems like a sham practice just meant to make the NFL look good. Goodell probably realizes what happened to Kaepernick will be part of his story as commissioner, so he's trying desperate measures to kinda/sorta fix it. It's just strange all around.
Also, I like the narrative DCM is making up now that Kaepernick isn't a leader. People just make excrement up because they don't like his politics and they want to justify it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2015/10/25/colin-kaepernick-and-the-49ers-have-a-locker-room-problem/amp/
Or maybe it's because kaepenerick was never a leader. His politics aside
https://www.tmz.com/2015/10/29/colin-kaepernick-headphones-pissing-off-teammates/
We're told one of the issues that was raised in the meeting was ... a bunch of players felt like Colin had been acting like a "loner" -- constantly walking around the team facility with his headphones on, tuning out the rest of the team.
Our sources tell us players are frustrated because it makes Colin seem unapproachable -- and some of the vets, including Davis, felt he NEEDS to be more inclusive if he wants to be an effective leader.
We're told it's not just the headphones ... it's more complicated ... but it was raised in the meeting as one of the issues.
All before the kneeling thing and kaepenerick demanding a trade.
The dude was never a leader.
If I felt like he'd be good for the team I'd care less about his politics
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Adam Schefter
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After today’s workout in Atlanta, an NFL executive at Colin Kaepernick’s throwing session said his arm talent is “elite” and is the same as when he came out of college. He said that Kaepernick threw the ball well.
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6:01 PM - Nov 16, 2019
Sounds a little fishy
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https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/1195846679741845506
Twenty five teams had reps show up at the NFL-designated Atlanta Falcons venue and the Jets were reportedly one of eight teams that went over to Kaepernick's workout nearby on a high school field .
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Yeah, everybody knows if you say something critical about police you lose 30% arm strength. It's science.
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Yeah, everybody knows if you say something critical about police you lose 30% arm strength. It's science.
armed robbery
https://twitter.com/JourdanRodrigue/status/1195835809502547969
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He wants TV cameras around, he doesn't want to play, he'll expose himself. If he tries to play he's going to suck and blow up his whole martyr gig.
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He's certainly talented enough to play in the NFL. I don't think that workout proved much other than he isn't too out of shape and can still throw a football forward.
In my opinion, his best option is to go to a Seattle or Baltimore type as a no doubt backup and be a very good insurance policy for a playoff team. If it works out, he could net them a good comp pick if he leaves next year.
There are a lot of teams where he isn't worth the attention that comes along with him. Teams where he could legitimately start at QB this year probably aren't interested in winning anyway. I wouldn't want the Jets to sign him. We have our QB, we have the NY media and don't need more drama. It shouldn't be that way, but it's reality.
I didn't realize he was already 32. Don't know why I thought he was still 28 or so. Probably doesn't matter much.
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I wonder if they had him run the victory formation
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I wonder if they had him run the victory formation
The Jets worked him out privately by having him scramble in fear for his life for 15 minutes straight.
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Yeah, everybody knows if you say something critical about police you lose 30% arm strength. It's science.
Dudes 32 and hasn't been a part of a football team in. 3 years
I find it hard to believe he hasn't lost anything on his throw
For some bizarre reason they still have the Jets having a 55% of having a top 5 pick.
Presumably they think the Jets iell only win 1 game against the Bengals Raiders dolphins redskins and Steelers and lose to the bills and Ravens.
Though I guess having a top 5 pick with 4 wins is possible?
But I find it fairly difficult to see this team not hitting 5 wins
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To simplify it, the question is whether NFL owners are wrong for making a business decision not to sign him. I think he's good enough to play in the NFL and its smart for owners to decide the pros aren't worth the cons. Both can be true.
In a perfect world, a team would step up and give him a shot. In that same perfect world, he would compromise on things unrelated to his social issues so a team would be willing to deal with the off the field drama.
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To simplify it, the question is whether NFL owners are wrong for making a business decision not to sign him. I think he's good enough to play in the NFL and its smart for owners to decide the pros aren't worth the cons. Both can be true.
In a perfect world, a team would step up and give him a shot. In that same perfect world, he would compromise on things unrelated to his social issues so a team would be willing to deal with the off the field drama.
While the social issues is definitely a factor for many if not all the teams signing him. Kaep simply doesn't want to play. This latest incident is pretty clear evidence of that. Dude will make more money and bring more attention to his cause continuing to stir up controversy rather than sign with some team to be their backup
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After today’s workout in Atlanta, an NFL executive at Colin Kaepernick’s throwing session said his arm talent is “elite” and is the same as when he came out of college. He said that Kaepernick threw the ball well.
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Sounds a little fishy
I love how you live in your own reality where the narrative has already been created and anything that goes against it must be false or a conspiracy
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I love how you live in your own reality where the narrative has already been created and anything that goes against it must be false or a conspiracy
I mean you're more than entitled to your opinion that he does want to play. I'm sure there's a perfectly logical explanationfor him deciding not to do his workout in front of the numerous decision makers who came to watch his workout in a state of the art nfl facility and instead change it last second and do it at a high school instead while leaving out the numerous evaluators that came to see him
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Colin Kaepernick (in his mind, which he thinks is the biggest in the room which in reality is one of the smallest (see: Richard Sherman)) wants to be this era’s Martin Luther King Jr. without actually being oppressed or doing the work in earnest. He’ll occasionally pretend to give a excrement or do a nice gesture but will make sure cameras are present.
There is actually a term for Colin Kaepernick. It’s “attention whore”.
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Colin Kaepernick (in his mind, which he thinks is the biggest in the room which in reality is one of the smallest (see: Richard Sherman)) wants to be this era’s Martin Luther King Jr. without actually being oppressed or doing the work in earnest. He’ll occasionally pretend to give a excrement or do a nice gesture but will make sure cameras are present.
There is actually a term for Colin Kaepernick. It’s “attention whore”.
ok boomer
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https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bs-sp-ravens-ray-lewis-colin-kaepernick-20170905-story.html
A reminder that him and his entourage pissed away the best opportunity he was going to have.
Anyway, I'm struggling to find out why, as the owner of an NFL franchise I'd sign a player I hope never takes a snap given all of the baggage and bullshit. Especially given the fact that this guy is literally acting like an obstinate prick during what was essentially a job interview.
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ok boomer
I should also add that people who support/believe him probably also subscribe to the idea that the election was ‘hacked’ because Russian dudes posted some memes on Facebook
Imagine actually being that stupid
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https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bs-sp-ravens-ray-lewis-colin-kaepernick-20170905-story.html
A reminder that him and his entourage pissed away the best opportunity he was going to have.
Anyway, I'm struggling to find out why, as the owner of an NFL franchise I'd sign a player I hope never takes a snap given all of the baggage and bullshit. Especially given the fact that this guy is literally acting like an obstinate prick during what was essentially a job interview.
With reports coming out that Nike is releasing a Kaepenerick sneaker next month and he debuted them at his workout, I'd say this is further evidence he realizes he will get more $$$ and publicity stirring his own pot.
Him getting a backup job is basically the worst career move for him.
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I should also add that people who support/believe him probably also subscribe to the idea that the election was ‘hacked’ because Russian dudes posted some memes on Facebook
Imagine actually being that stupid
Lol. Those are two different things but if you dont think false advertising has an impact on public perception I have a bridge to sell you
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Lol. Those are two different things but if you dont think false advertising has an impact on public perception I have a bridge to sell you
Yes as opposed to the 0 negative stuff about Trump that was posted to news, social media, etc both before and after the election.
I did not vote for Trump in ‘16 and will not vote for him next year but I’m sick and tired of flipping through news channels and seeing talking heads cry day after day about Trump. The left has taken the stance of being whiny freaking pussies instead of actually having a respectable candidate/platform to work off of and will wonder why they lost again in 2020.
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Lol. Those are two different things but if you dont think false advertising has an impact on public perception I have a bridge to sell you
False advertising like Kaep pretending he gives a excrement about playing football?
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Yes as opposed to the 0 negative stuff about Trump that was posted to news, social media, etc both before and after the election.
I did not vote for Trump in ‘16 and will not vote for him next year but I’m sick and tired of flipping through news channels and seeing talking heads cry day after day about Trump. The left has taken the stance of being whiny freaking pussies instead of actually having a respectable candidate/platform to work off of and will wonder why they lost again in 2020.
You mean like the multiple rape allegations, money laundering, and illegal use of campaign funding? Like disgracing purple heart victims, threatening protestors with violence, and intimidating witnesses?
Yes we should ignore those.
I get theres complaining and sometimes over dramatizing, but comparing the two is asinine. Trump actually did those things versus media accounts posting information and memes that are untrue and insight hatred.
Hopefully the dems stance becomes more uniform in the next 3 months
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What about things like Correct the Record?
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Yes as opposed to the 0 negative stuff about Trump that was posted to news, social media, etc both before and after the election.
I did not vote for Trump in ‘16 and will not vote for him next year but I’m sick and tired of flipping through news channels and seeing talking heads cry day after day about Trump. The left has taken the stance of being whiny freaking pussies instead of actually having a respectable candidate/platform to work off of and will wonder why they lost again in 2020.
I'm pretty sure Pope is actually a Russian agent who just drew the short straw and was tasked with NY sports message boards.
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I'm pretty sure Pope is actually a Russian agent who just drew the short straw and was tasked with NY sports message boards.
I kind of agree with that player of the pink oboe.
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What about things like Correct the Record?
No no no how dare you inject balance or fact into yet another shitty DrUmPf discussion.
Media Matters for America is clearly a nonbiased entity as is NowThis, and anything supporting Drumpf or even third party candidates running against establishment democrats are just russian trollfarms who easily deceived a bunch of rubes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM9jhGiIAFM
You mean like the multiple rape allegations, money laundering, and illegal use of campaign funding? Like disgracing purple heart victims, threatening protestors with violence, and intimidating witnesses?
Yes we should ignore those.
I get theres complaining and sometimes over dramatizing, but comparing the two is asinine. Trump actually did those things versus media accounts posting information and memes that are untrue and insight hatred.
Hopefully the dems stance becomes more uniform in the next 3 months
Threatening protesters with violence. Lmao. As opposed to the behavior of Waters telling everyone opposed to this administration to get in the face of anyone who disagrees with them, or Obama telling his supporters to bring the gun to the fight "if they bring the knife"
"Trump actually did those things" he says about completely unfounded rape allegations and money laundering. As for campaign finance illegalities, you let me know when he pays one of his mistresses off of campaign funds like a certain vitriolic psycho from Minnesota did.
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Personally, I am an enlightened centrist™ and I can tell you that everyone who has posted here is right
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No no no how dare you inject balance or fact into yet another shitty DrUmPf discussion.
Media Matters for America is clearly a nonbiased entity as is NowThis, and anything supporting Drumpf or even third party candidates running against establishment democrats are just russian trollfarms who easily deceived a bunch of rubes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM9jhGiIAFM
Threatening protesters with violence. Lmao. As opposed to the behavior of Waters telling everyone opposed to this administration to get in the face of anyone who disagrees with them, or Obama telling his supporters to bring the gun to the fight "if they bring the knife"
"Trump actually did those things" he says about completely unfounded rape allegations and money laundering. As for campaign finance illegalities, you let me know when he pays one of his mistresses off of campaign funds like a certain vitriolic psycho from Minnesota did.
Dude what are you talking about?
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What it comes down to is Kaepernick was shitty at his job and Trump is good at his. Whatever you think of the rest, people want a good job done, which is why nobody signs Kaepernick and why Trump will likely win again. Add to that, as dcm mentioned, the worst thing Kaep could do for his career is sign and be a shitty backup. The whole oppressed martyr bit goes out the window and he's exposed.
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Can I buy some PCP from one of the participants in this thread?
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Dude what are you talking about?
Just pointing out how your criticisms are selective at best and completely fictional at worst.
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https://www.complex.com/sports/2020/06/drew-brees-players-kneel-national-anthem-protests-disrespecting-the-flag
Impeccable timing
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https://www.complex.com/sports/2020/06/drew-brees-players-kneel-national-anthem-protests-disrespecting-the-flag
Impeccable timing
Drew Brees is a terrific player who is quite rightly a beloved son of New Orleans for everything he did, both on the field and off it, after the devastation that hit that city. That said, he doesn't seem like he's the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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Welp, freak Drew Brees in this regard. This is one of the things people talk about when they speak of white people not listening.
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wow, i watched that video and assumed it was from when kaepernick first began his protest lol. it's from today
brees just had his 'mask off' moment. he will undoubtedly do some version of a 'step back' with regards to his comments within the next couple of days, but he showed up today
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he fuckin started out his justification by saying 'Let me tell you what ***I*** see and what ***I*** feel when I look at the flag'
freak sake man
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he fuckin started out his justification by saying 'Let me tell you what ***I*** see and what ***I*** feel when I look at the flag'
freak sake man
I’m amazed I can still be disappointed in professional athletes.
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I’m amazed I can still be disappointed in professional athletes.
i think what makes it worse is that it's brees. his job is very cerebral and he is very high functioning at it. i'm sure the players feel as blindsided as us random nobodies do
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i think what makes it worse is that it's brees. his job is very cerebral and he is very high functioning at it. i'm sure the players feel as blindsided as us random nobodies do
He's not a saint (pun intended).
https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2018/4/6/17184810/saints0drew-brees-jewelry-mishap-only-latest-in-a-long-line-of-unsavory-business-decisions
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he fuckin started out his justification by saying 'Let me tell you what ***I*** see and what ***I*** feel when I look at the flag'
freak sake man
How dare he have his own perspective.
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Drew Brees supported Focus on the Family. He's a turd burglar.
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How dare he have his own perspective.
Hiding behind troopcops to not acknowledge a protest against racism is not a valid perspective
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troopcops
You mean his grandfather who served this country in WW2?
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He has the same right to miss the point of Kaep’s protest entirely as I have to call him a stupid piece of excrement.
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He has the same right to miss the point of Kaep’s protest entirely as I have to call him a stupid piece of excrement.
And I have a right to think that take sucks.
Good for Joe Horn for speaking up.
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Malcolm Jenkins is not amused with Drew Brees’ stupid-derriere take.
Even though we’re teammates, I can’t let this slide.
Full Video (https://twitter.com/MalcolmJenkins/status/1268315207299981312?s=20)
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freak Joe Horn too
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You mean his grandfather who served this country in WW2?
So did my grandfather OH HOHO WHAT NOW
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Emmanuel Sanders, Alvin Kamara and Michael Thomas also not pleased with Brees' stupid, shitty take.
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I don't think Brees is a monster or something, I just think it's a dumb stance and a terrible time to announce it. Read the room dude.
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i think brees is like an idiot-savant. how much money has the guy lost on stupid investments and terrible jewelry deals? he makes so much its all moot but freak man
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there is nothing wrong with anybody having their own perspective and views about the flag and the anthem, nobody said anything about that.
what's completely wrong here is for brees to pass judgment on a form of protest that a black player like colin kaepernick undertook while using his own perspective, experiences, and viewpoints to justify that judgment. he does not take into any consideration what colin kaepernick is protesting or what he is trying to say via his protest, or the symbolism a black american male may see/feel when seeing something like the flag or hearing the anthem. all he considers is his own perspective and his own views on these things, and then uses that to dictate to these people what they can or cannot do, how they should or should not act.
it's just another example of a privileged white voice literally minimizing or ignoring the black voice completely while superimposing his own voice above all else, because that's all that really matters to brees. this very concept has played a huge role in determining the treatment that blacks have received in this country, and this has weighed heavily on the minds of the protesters these past few days. we've literally been in the thick of it and he still comes out saying excrement like this. brees does not fcking get it.
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Add Trayvon Mullen to the list of the unimpressed.
https://twitter.com/MullenIsland1/status/1268307631564705792?s=19 (https://twitter.com/MullenIsland1/status/1268307631564705792?s=19)
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Part of me wants to know what 32 starting edge rushers think of this, the rest wonders what 5 offensive linemen think of this.
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I still for the life of me cant understand how taking a knee is disrespectful.
How much more submissive can he be? Do you want him to protest by blowing the flag pole??
Even then someone would find something to complain about
"How dare he not deep throat that pole!!!! That's disrespect to my papi who served in WW2"
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lmao Brees "apologized" ...of course
"I’m sorry I exposed my ignorance/indifference/racist thoughts in public instead of in private!"
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there is nothing wrong with anybody having their own perspective and views about the flag and the anthem, nobody said anything about that.
what's completely wrong here is for brees to pass judgment on a form of protest that a black player like colin kaepernick undertook while using his own perspective, experiences, and viewpoints to justify that judgment. he does not take into any consideration what colin kaepernick is protesting or what he is trying to say via his protest, or the symbolism a black american male may see/feel when seeing something like the flag or hearing the anthem. all he considers is his own perspective and his own views on these things, and then uses that to dictate to these people what they can or cannot do, how they should or should not act.
it's just another example of a privileged white voice literally minimizing or ignoring the black voice completely while superimposing his own voice above all else, because that's all that really matters to brees. this very concept has played a huge role in determining the treatment that blacks have received in this country, and this has weighed heavily on the minds of the protesters these past few days. we've literally been in the thick of it and he still comes out saying excrement like this. brees does not fcking get it.
You say there's nothing wrong with someone having their own perspective and views about the flag and anthem, yet then pivot into accusing him of superimposing his views in the form of...answering a question. He didn't speak unprompted, he didn't go off on an unsolicited rant. He was asked a question (a fairly loaded one at that, but I digress), he answered honestly.
If anything, a view is being superimposed on him by suggesting he should be dishonest, when there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with taking the position that he will be standing for the anthem given how he feels and what the flag means to him.
You talk about minimizing the black voice? By sharing his own thoughts? What? Individuals of either race are allowed to feel how they have to feel about things without this absolutist, "either with us or against us" bullshit. He can show support in a way that doesn't run counter to his perspective, should he so choose.
The joke of this is that you all think one white quarterback is going to take away from anything.
This is all projection because white athlete guy won't literally support exactly the action you want him to. He can live his life by all accounts charitably and nobly, using his "white privilege" as you say to donate millions upon millions of dollars and rebuild inner city New Orleans post-Katrina. His $$$'s green, but his voice isn't valid.
lmao Brees "apologized" ...of course
"I’m sorry I exposed my ignorance/indifference/racist thoughts in public instead of in private!"
The lesson of never apologizing to the outrage mob, once again on full display.
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Bo might want to add projection to that list of words he wants banned from the forum.
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The lesson of never apologizing to the outrage mob, once again on full display.
He shouldn't have said anything to begin with.
Brees should know better by now. He already got burned by the Focus on the Family incident.
His own teammates are calling him out. That says it all.
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https://twitter.com/Prez/status/1268271693019189255?s=19 (https://twitter.com/Prez/status/1268271693019189255?s=19)
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https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1270149560216715265?s=21
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https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1270149560216715265?s=21
https://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/14/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-apologizes-colin-kaepernick/index.html
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All Lives Matter
-RBG
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https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1270149560216715265?s=21
Proof that tap dancing for racists gets you nothing
https://twitter.com/bourgeoisalien/status/1270385878112907264?s=19
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Proof that tap dancing for racists gets you nothing
https://twitter.com/bourgeoisalien/status/1270385878112907264?s=19
Proof that tiles are often misleading clickbait.
The president defended Kaepernick and others who have joined him in such acts, which many Americans consider offensive, saying, “We fight sometimes so that people can do things that we disagree with.” But Obama also said people on both sides of the issue should keep open ears.
“Sometimes out of these controversies, we start getting into a conversation, and I want everybody to listen to each other,” Obama said. “So I want Mr. Kaepernick and others who are on a knee, I want them to listen to the pain that that may cause somebody who, for example, had a spouse or a child who was killed in combat, and why it hurts them to see somebody not standing.”
The president added, however: “I also want people to think about the pain that he may be expressing about somebody who’s lost a loved one that they think was unfairly shot.”
There are signs that Kaepernick is sensitive to the feelings of military families. The football player initially sat during the national anthem, but, according to media reports, switched to taking a knee in part to show some respect for military families.
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There are signs that Kaepernick is sensitive to the feelings of military families. The football player initially sat during the national anthem, but, according to media reports, switched to taking a knee in part to show some respect for military families.
... after consulting with Nate Boyer, Seahawks long snapper and former Green Beret.
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Presenting it as a "both sides have a point" situation is weak, and again, gained him zero from the people who regard him as Satan.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29315784/encourage-team-sign-colin-kaepernick
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29323267/chargers-coach-teams-crazy-not-colin-kaepernick-workout-lists
So... you did blackball him then.
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I believe that’s what they agreed to never admit publicly in the settlement.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29315784/encourage-team-sign-colin-kaepernick
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29323267/chargers-coach-teams-crazy-not-colin-kaepernick-workout-lists
So... you did blackball him then.
How so? What was preventing an owner/GM from signing him if they wanted to?
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How so? What was preventing an owner/GM from signing him if they wanted to?
Well, I don't think the NFL passed a resolution that no team was allowed to sign him, but while I fully accept that Rog deciding to come out in the wake of the current protests and hopefully significant societal change that we're currently seeing and say "gee, I really hope someone gives that nice fella Kaepernick another go, he's a terrific young man who really should be playing in the NFL" and all of a sudden head coaches making statements about how they would totally like to see him come in for a workout and maybe camp might just be a coincidence.... but I doubt it.
That's not a criticism of Lynn, by the way. He seems like a good dude and the Chargers are probably a really good fit for Kaepernick if he still wants to play and is good enough to make a 53. But I doubt that Lynn says that unless Goodell had made his statement, and I doubt that Goodell would have made that statement unless he'd spoken to the owners about it, and he wouldn't have needed to speak to the owners about it unless they'd already agreed that Kaepernick was persona non grata.
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Well, I don't think the NFL passed a resolution that no team was allowed to sign him, but while I fully accept that Rog deciding to come out in the wake of the current protests and hopefully significant societal change that we're currently seeing and say "gee, I really hope someone gives that nice fella Kaepernick another go, he's a terrific young man who really should be playing in the NFL" and all of a sudden head coaches making statements about how they would totally like to see him come in for a workout and maybe camp might just be a coincidence.... but I doubt it.
That's not a criticism of Lynn, by the way. He seems like a good dude and the Chargers are probably a really good fit for Kaepernick if he still wants to play and is good enough to make a 53. But I doubt that Lynn says that unless Goodell had made his statement, and I doubt that Goodell would have made that statement unless he'd spoken to the owners about it, and he wouldn't have needed to speak to the owners about it unless they'd already agreed that Kaepernick was persona non grata.
Pete Carroll has been babbling about signing Kaepernick this entire time and instead went with Geno Smith
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Is it not possible that all these nfl statements are more so about making the nfl look less racist/more progressive rather than an admittance of blackballing Kaep?
It's certainly feasible that he was blackballed. But to me this has to do more with the nfl apologizing for its lack of support of players during the whole kneeling thing.
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Pete Carroll has been babbling about signing Kaepernick this entire time and instead went with Geno Smith
I'm confused, are you trying to argue against my point? Because that doesn't really seem to do the job. I'm very sure that there are coaches out there who'd like to take a look at Kaepernick and would have done so long before now, but it's not them making those decisions.
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I'm confused, are you trying to argue against my point? Because that doesn't really seem to do the job. I'm very sure that there are coaches out there who'd like to take a look at Kaepernick and would have done so long before now, but it's not them making those decisions.
I think if there was an owner out there that thought Kaepernick would win them more football games he would have been signed
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I think if there was an owner out there that thought Kaepernick would win them more football games he would have been signed
To be fair Miami wasn't interested in any football players who would win them more games last year
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To be fair Miami wasn't interested in any football players who would win them more games last year
They won more games than they wanted to with Fitz than they would have if they just stuck it out with Rosen. As I predicted.
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To be fair Miami wasn't interested in any football players who would win them more games last year
I'm glad you used Miami as an example.
How the freak are they ever going to sign Kaepernick after his glorification of Castro?
Know your audience.
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I'm glad you used Miami as an example.
How the freak are they ever going to sign Kaepernick after his glorification of Castro?
Know your audience.
Now I want the Dolphins to sign him so gusanos die mad
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Now I want the Dolphins to sign him so gusanos die mad
Cubans expats: "A tyrannical dictatorship murdered our families and stole all of our possessions.'
White lefties thirty to forty years later: 'acckkkkkshually!"
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Cubans expats: "A tyrannical dictatorship murdered our families and stole all of our possessions.'
White lefties thirty to forty years later: 'acckkkkkshually!"
People who backed the guy who got rightfully ousted in a revolution are generally salty
Castro's regime was better than Batista in every way. He didn't get overthrown for no reason.
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People who backed the guy who got rightfully ousted in a revolution are generally salty
Castro's regime was better than Batista in every way. He didn't get overthrown for no reason.
I'm not defending the merits of Batista, but this veneration of Castro is freaking insane.
He's a murderous piece of excrement and if there actually is an afterlife, its pretty hot where he is.
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I'm not defending the merits of Batista, but this veneration of Castro is freaking insane.
He's a murderous piece of excrement and if there actually is an afterlife, its pretty hot where he is.
So on par with every US President then.