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Other Stuff => The Pats-Hater Parking Lot => Topic started by: Heismanberg on February 28, 2016, 08:14:30 PM
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Vikander wins. All is right in the world unless DiCaprio loses.
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The Oscars are doing a great job letting us all know how not racist they are.
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The Oscars are doing a great job letting us all know how not racist they are.
No blacks will win. Everything you ask for in an awards show.
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Tracy Morgan as the Danish Girl was freaking hilarious.
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Man these black jokes are so great they should keep doing it over and over
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I'm raising awareness for blacks by not watching the oscars tonight. Also I don't give a excrement
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#BlackActorsMatter
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The Oscars are doing a great job letting us all know how not racist they are.
Chris Rock making them look uncomfortable is great.
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I liked it.
The stuff down the line with the rest of the show was a bit gratuitous and borderline on pandering, but it wasn't terribly executed and it's the Oscars so you expect it.
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I'm about to turn this off this has become unbearable
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Oh man, they all look like such assholes whoever you are. Genius.
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Really glad Stallone didn't win and I really enjoyed Creed.
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Mark Rylance was so good, and I didn't think he stood a chance. That was great.
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The best part of this is that no matter how the people in that audience react to Chris Rock's excrement, they look bad. It's awesome.
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Man these black jokes are so great they should keep doing it over and over
Was that street interview thing supposed to make black people look good? Because it did the exact opposite.
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Was that street interview thing supposed to make black people look good? Because it did the exact opposite.
Yeah, the freak was that.. the finale with that female crackhead was the icing on the cake
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Was that street interview thing supposed to make black people look good? Because it did the exact opposite.
It was supposed to be funny.
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It was supposed to be funny.
It was pathetic.
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Louis CK is the best
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It was pathetic.
The only person that was questionable in that segment was the woman at the end that pretended to steal the trophy. She was at least funny.
The other people were just average moviegoers.
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Was that street interview thing supposed to make black people look good? Because it did the exact opposite.
No. It was supposed to make the assholes in the audience look like assholes because there was no good way to react. It's all about liberal hypocrisy. I'd have thought you'd love it even more than I did.
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Oh man, Joe Biden taking this so next level.
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Wait, when the hell did he get here?
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No. It was supposed to make the assholes in the audience look like assholes because there was no good way to react. It's all about liberal hypocrisy. I'd have thought you'd love it even more than I did.
What the freak are you talking about?
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Good Will Hunting reference in the rape song. I'm dying here. freaking hilarious.
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What the freak are you talking about?
Every bit of Chris Rock's schtick. There is no good way for the audience to react. They look like assholes every year, but now even worse. Getting them to laugh at ignorant black people was a genius move.
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If the goal is to stop rape, showing Lady Gaga right after Biden's speech is a great start. Erection killer extraordinaire.
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Ali G in da house
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Every bit of Chris Rock's schtick. There is no good way for the audience to react. They look like assholes every year, but now even worse. Getting them to laugh at ignorant black people was a genius move.
You actually enjoyed this racial abortion?
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You actually enjoyed this racial abortion?
Absolutely. It's an epic clusterfuck and a self aware disaster. Chris Rock clearly set out to make the most uncomfortable mess possible. It's great. That Joe Biden/Gaga excrement was just the freaking cherry on top.
Hollywood consistently looks bad during the Oscars. This is next level.
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http://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/oscarssowhite-controversy-misses-point/
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Alright STFU now Leo.
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Black people can start their own show and Tyler Perry will become the most prolific award winner of all time
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Very very happy that Spotlight won.
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Absolutely. It's an epic clusterfuck and a self aware disaster. Chris Rock clearly set out to make the most uncomfortable mess possible. It's great. That Joe Biden/Gaga excrement was just the freaking cherry on top.
Hollywood consistently looks bad during the Oscars. This is next level.
I don't get it. The committee went way out of their way to overcompensate for the lack of black nominees. It's embarrassing. freak this bullshit.
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Very very happy that Spotlight won.
same
the last three winners were right
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I don't get it. The committee went way out of their way to overcompensate for the lack of black nominees. It's embarrassing. freak this bullshit.
No, they didn't. Every single thing that was done just made Hollywood look worse. I don't know how Chris Rock sold them on that, but he let Hollywood excrement all over itself. Nobody anywhere thinks Hollywood looks good right now.
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No, they didn't. Every single thing that was done just made Hollywood look worse. I don't know how Chris Rock sold them on that, but he let Hollywood excrement all over itself. Nobody anywhere thinks Hollywood looks good right now.
The Oscars went out of their way to show they're not racist. Most of the presenters were black. They look bad because they're obviously pandering and giving in to the bullshit accusations. Yeah, I agree they look bad. It's Fuckn embarrassing for America. You get called racist, and you give in.
freak this country.
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http://i.imgur.com/btK2W0k.gifv
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I don't get it. The committee went way out of their way to overcompensate for the lack of black nominees. It's embarrassing. freak this bullshit.
Who gives a excrement?
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The Oscars went out of their way to show they're not racist. Most of the presenters were black. They look bad because they're obviously pandering and giving in to the bullshit accusations. Yeah, I agree they look bad. It's Fuckn embarrassing for America. You get called racist, and you give in.
freak this country.
Lol
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Rofl hahaha . Good stuff
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People care about the Oscars at all. freak this country.
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Who won and why should I care?
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Who won and why should I care?
Movies and people and you shouldn't.
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The only thing I don't get is why Latinos, Asians, middle-easterners, ect. don't give a excrement about the academy awards.
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The only thing I don't get is why Latinos, Asians, middle-easterners, ect. don't give a excrement about the academy awards.
Because they're busy at their jobs
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The only thing I don't get is why Latinos, Asians, middle-easterners, ect. don't give a excrement about the academy awards.
Most black people don't either. It's mostly black actors and a lot of white people fueling that movement. I think Selma had a lot more to do with it than this year's awards.
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Because they're busy at their jobs
"Best Terrorist or Featured Convenience Store Clerk"
"Best Doctor or Scientist"
"Best Misunderstood Gang Banger, Drug Lord, or Hot South American Chick Pretending to be Mexican"
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BD Wong would clean up if they had those new categories.
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Most black people don't either. It's mostly black actors and a lot of white people fueling that movement. I think Selma had a lot more to do with it than this year's awards.
Was Selma really a good movie or were critics too afraid to give it negative reviews because of the subject matter.
12 Years a Slave won just the year before. Some people have short attention spans.
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Ennio Morricone finally wins. Been rocking out to Ecstasy of Gold all day.
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Mark Rylance was so good, and I didn't think he stood a chance. That was great.
You should check out Wolf Hall, he's excellent in that. Just as low-key.
I'm surprised the little kid from Room didn't get nominated. That was some mighty heavy lifting for such a young actor.
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Was Selma really a good movie or were critics too afraid to give it negative reviews because of the subject matter.
12 Years a Slave won just the year before. Some people have short attention spans.
It was a good movie. Do you have any actual examples of bad movies that got good reviews because they were about black issues? You used the same argument against 12 Years A Slave.
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It was a good movie. Do you have any actual examples of bad movies that got good reviews because they were about black issues? You used the same argument against 12 Years A Slave.
12 Years a Slave was way overrated. So was Crash. I liked Amistad and Malcolm X though, so I'm not trying to say all critically acclaimed movies about black stuff are overrated.
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12 Years a Slave was way overrated. So was Crash. I liked Amistad and Malcolm X though, so I'm not trying to say all critically acclaimed movies about black stuff are overrated.
12 Years A Slave was not overrated. It was a great film. Her should have won that year, but I have no issue with that award.
I will say that Crash is the best example you could ever come up with there. That's the worst Best Picture winner of all time, and there have been some bad ones. It was pretty universally recognized from the minute it won as the worst, too.
EDIT: To add, 12 Years A Slave was a pretty narrow winner. It was ultimately helped by the fact that a lot of voters saw Gravity on screeners. It almost won and probably would have if everyone had to see it in theaters.
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The one thing I'll say for Crash is that at least Brokeback Mountain didn't win. It was a excrement year. The best film of the year was a black and white exploration of televised journalism.
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The one thing I'll say for Crash is that at least Brokeback Mountain didn't win. It was a excrement year. The best film of the year was a black and white exploration of televised journalism.
Good Night and Good Luck?
I haven't seen that in years but that's a great flick.
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Driving Miss Daisy was excrement and it had a black dude in. freak Hollywood and their white guilt.
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Driving Miss Daisy was excrement and it had a black dude in. freak Hollywood and their white guilt.
It beat Do The Right Thing, which was an actual black production and highly political. I don't think Driving Miss Daisy counts as white guilt. It's an embarrassing movie that sweeps race under the table instead of addressing it. It's the opposite of white guilt. It's like paternalism all over again.
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That was the joke. It was the least black issues movie ever, it just happened to have a black guy in it. It then got remade as some awful excrement with Billy Connolly about the Queen.
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Do the Right Thing was excrement. I never understood why it got so much acclaim.
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I thought Action Jackson should have won an Oscar.
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Do the Right Thing was excrement. I never understood why it got so much acclaim.
Do The Right Thing is dated. I'm not sure when you saw it, but it hasn't held up well. It was great at the time, but it's not a classic. It also wasn't nominated for any awards but supporting actor and screenplay. That and Glory were passed up for feel good whitebread movies like Driving Miss Daisy, Dead Poets Society, and Field of Dreams and for Vietnam activism like Born on the Fourth of July (which really hasn't held up well either).
In other words, black issue movies almost always get nominated based on merit, not some kind of sense of white guilt. Crash was the exception, and it was a weak year.
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Dead Poets Society is better than Do The Right Thing.
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Do The Right Thing is dated. I'm not sure when you saw it, but it hasn't held up well. It was great at the time, but it's not a classic. It also wasn't nominated for any awards but supporting actor and screenplay. That and Glory were passed up for feel good whitebread movies like Driving Miss Daisy, Dead Poets Society, and Field of Dreams and for Vietnam activism like Born on the Fourth of July (which really hasn't held up well either).
In other words, black issue movies almost always get nominated based on merit, not some kind of sense of white guilt. Crash was the exception, and it was a weak year.
Are there any black screenwriters/directors who don't focus on "black themed" movies?
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2002: Training Day and Monster's Ball focus on black issues. Ali focuses on a black hero. Passed up for better movies and In the Bedroom.
2007: Blood Diamond gets passed up for Little Miss Sunshine and Babel (maybe because the latter tackles racial issues for multiple races? Should probably investigate)
2010: They decide to expand the BP nominees to a maximum of 10 and suddenly Precious and The Blind Side get nominations. Must be race related because it's not like Precious was freaking brilliant and haunting.
2012: Oh excrement, we forgot one last year! Better nominate The Help! It's ok, though, we'll shock everyone and give Best Actress to freaking Meryl Streep's excrement instead of Viola Davis in the best performance of the year. White guilt, bro.
2014: 12 Years A Slave is an excellent film with a great directorial job by a black director. Surely white guilt will give it both awards. Nope. McQueen loses to Cuaron. I guess maybe white guilt awarded a hispanic? Three years in a row?
2015: Selma is a great movie with a not only a black director but a female one! Surely the white guilt will come through! Nope. freaking Birdman. (The Imitation Game and Whiplash were both better than either one)
I guess white guilt really does win Oscars and acclaim for black folk.
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Are there any black screenwriters/directors who don't focus on "black themed" movies?
What is a "black themed" movie?
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Are there any black screenwriters/directors who don't focus on "black themed" movies?
It's insanely difficult to get black directors and screenwriters greenlit for non-black movies. The money isn't there. Occasionally, if a black themed movie is successful enough, the writer or director get offered a white-centered movie, but it never lasts. That's Hollywood for you. It's not like they don't want to make movies that bring in excrement tons more money. For example, Antoine Fuqua used Training Day to get three straight 'white' movies. Then The Equalizer got him Southpaw and The Magnificent Seven remake.
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What is a "black themed" movie?
I'm letting that go and just assuming he means anything that has black people in it, even if it's a universal story.
Tim Story used Barbershop to get the Fantastic Four movies. They sucked, though, so instead of getting a second chance like white directors, he was shuffled back to 'black movies'. Thanks to Ride Along, he'll probably get some more offers now.
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That's what I meant. Movies like Do the right thing, she hate me, barbershop, etc.
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Ava Duvernay is the latest example. Selma got her A Wrinkle in Time. That's huge. I'll have to see what Steve McQueen is working on.
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A white people HBO show!
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Ryan Coogler is one of the best up-and-coming directors, in my opinion. Tommy probably thinks that Creed was a black film.
Wait until he sees that Black Panther is Coogler's next movie...
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This whole conversation is unbelievably sad.
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I'll have to see what Steve McQueen is working on.
Shame was created for blacks. Michael Fassbender's dong is what the black community has been screaming about for years.
McQueen is currently working on a series called Code of Conduct, starring the blackest actor in America: Paul Dano.
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I think people unfairly judge Spike Lee's movies in general and Do The Right Thing in particular based upon the fact that he's a bit of a rooster. For me it still stands up as a great piece of work in the context of the time in which it was made.
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I think people unfairly judge Spike Lee's movies in general and Do The Right Thing in particular based upon the fact that he's a bit of a rooster. For me it still stands up as a great piece of work in the context of the time in which it was made.
He's made some pretty shitty films too though. The Miracle at St. Anna and the Oldboy remake are terrible.
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He's made some pretty shitty films too though. The Miracle at St. Anna and the Oldboy remake are terrible.
Completely agree.
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The Miracle at St. Anna
I kept watching and expected something good to happen.
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I thought Bamboozled was underrated. He didn't take time to explain a lot of it, which meant it relied on some history people are unfamiliar with i.e. the narrative structure of 1800s minstrel shows and the significance of that structure.
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Shes Gotta Have It, School Daze, Do The Right Thing, Mo Better Blues, Jungle Fever, Malcom X, Crooklyn, He Got Game, Bamboozled, and Sucker Free City
are all good movies imo.
Do The Right Thing, Malcom X, He Got Game, and Bamboozled are great movies.
Sucker Free City might be his most overlooked piece of work imo. I always liked it and will probably watch it this weekend now that I'm typing this.
hes made a lot of garbage but hes earned enough credit on past work in my book. regardless of his occasional douche factor.
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I thought Bamboozled was underrated. He didn't take time to explain a lot of it, which meant it relied on some history people are unfamiliar with i.e. the narrative structure of 1800s minstrel shows and the significance of that structure.
bamboozled is horrendously underrated , it went over a ton of heads and is still relevant, probably more than ever, in 2016
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This whole conversation is unbelievably sad.
Why bother having it then, I find Oscar racial conversations worse than political conversations and that's saying something.
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I thought Action Jackson should have won an Oscar.
hahahaha
Honkzilla
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Shes Gotta Have It, School Daze, Do The Right Thing, Mo Better Blues, Jungle Fever, Malcom X, Crooklyn, He Got Game, Bamboozled, and Sucker Free City
are all good movies imo.
Do The Right Thing, Malcom X, He Got Game, and Bamboozled are great movies.
Sucker Free City might be his most overlooked piece of work imo. I always liked it and will probably watch it this weekend now that I'm typing this.
hes made a lot of garbage but hes earned enough credit on past work in my book. regardless of his occasional douche factor.
This, and this again. Although I'd put Mo' Better Blues in the "great" category, if only because it's my favourite movie soundtrack of all time.
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This, and this again. Although I'd put Mo' Better Blues in the "great" category, if only because it's my favourite movie soundtrack of all time.
yeah I will agree
move it into Great.
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Dead Poets Society is better than Do The Right Thing.
+1
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Spike Lee will not go down in history as a 'great' writer/director, but he started a conversation that led to more black writer/directors, which is a good thing.
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Dead Poets Society is better than Do The Right Thing.
Absolutely it is. I was just making the point that in Tommy's world, Do the Right Thing and Glory would have had BP nominations. Instead, you got a bunch of VERY white movies. If we have black movies, as he said, then a film set at an upper crust boarding school has to be considered a white movie. Ditto for a cornfield baseball movie and a "wonderful relationship between racist white lady and her black servant" movie.
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Spike Lee will not go down in history as a 'great' writer/director, but he started a conversation that led to more black writer/directors, which is a good thing.
I think he'll go down as a very mixed director, but he positioned himself early on as a racial commentator and political director, and he's done some great work in that regard. The mainstream wasn't open to him at all when he started, and he's largely stayed true to that and has committed to making his own films. I respect that, even if it has led to mixed results. Tarantino has done the same thing with infinitely better results (and completely apolitical ones).
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Absolutely it is. I was just making the point that in Tommy's world, Do the Right Thing and Glory would have had BP nominations. Instead, you got a bunch of VERY white movies. If we have black movies, as he said, then a film set at an upper crust boarding school has to be considered a white movie. Ditto for a cornfield baseball movie and a "wonderful relationship between racist white lady and her black servant" movie.
Am I missing something? I love Glory, maybe because I am a Civil War buff and it's pretty close to authentic as movies go nowadays.
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Am I missing something? I love Glory, maybe because I am a Civil War buff and it's pretty close to authentic as movies go nowadays.
I love Glory too. I think it's better than Born on the Fourth of July and Field of Dreams. It's shocking in Tommy's white guilt world that it was passed over. Every WWII movie gets nominated.
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And where is the outcry from Tommy about the fact that every Holocaust movie gets an automatic bump? Schindler's List was incredible. Life is Beautiful was very good. The Pianist was good, but Adrien Brody was the worst of the Best Actor nominees and somehow beat out Daniel Day Lewis. Polanski wasn't as good as Scorsese. Out of 23 Holocaust themed Oscar nominated movies, 20 won awards. That's the way it is, but Tommy doesn't have an issue with that.
Funny enough, probably the 2nd best WWII themed film, Saving Private Ryan, has nothing to do with the Jews and loses out to Shakespeare in Love.
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Funny enough, probably the 2nd best WWII themed film, Saving Private Ryan, has nothing to do with the Jews and loses out to Shakespeare in Love.
SPR is outstanding to this day. I don't remember a thing about the other one, other than I thought is was terrible.
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SPR is outstanding to this day. I don't remember a thing about the other one, other than I thought is was terrible.
Highly original and well done, but no Saving Private Ryan.
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probably the 2nd best WWII themed film, Saving Private Ryan
After The Thin Red Line, I presume?
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And where is the outcry from Tommy about the fact that every Holocaust movie gets an automatic bump? Schindler's List was incredible. Life is Beautiful was very good. The Pianist was good, but Adrien Brody was the worst of the Best Actor nominees and somehow beat out Daniel Day Lewis. Polanski wasn't as good as Scorsese. Out of 23 Holocaust themed Oscar nominated movies, 20 won awards. That's the way it is, but Tommy doesn't have an issue with that.
Funny enough, probably the 2nd best WWII themed film, Saving Private Ryan, has nothing to do with the Jews and loses out to Shakespeare in Love.
Of course they get bumps because of subject matter. It has an inherent emotional element. People know the backstory and how awful it was. Same with slavery. Same with war-related movies. Patriotic ones etc. The heavy-handed "hey look how awful these situations were" is lazy in my opinion. I like movies that makes me care about fictional settings and characters.
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After The Thin Red Line, I presume?
I was talking about Schindler's List. Keeping it recent. I think SPR is better than TRL, even though it's also great.
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I didn't really like The Thin Red Line. I thought it was boring.
Best movie about the pacific theater was Letters from Iwo Jima.
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Sure, Do the Right Thing was a great movie if you believe all Italians are racist, gineau-T wearing greaseballs. I wonder if Scorcese had done a movie where the black characters are doing nothing but eating collared greens, shitting on whitey and committing crimes what the response would've been.
Do the Right Thing is dogshit. And as much as I dislike Spike, I can be objective enough to credit him for a job well done. See: He Got Game and of course, Glory.
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...Glory?
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Sure, Do the Right Thing was a great movie if you believe all Italians are racist, gineau-T wearing greaseballs. I wonder if Scorcese had done a movie where the black characters are doing nothing but eating collared greens, shitting on whitey and committing crimes what the response would've been.
Do the Right Thing is dogshit. And as much as I dislike Spike, I can be objective enough to credit him for a job well done. See: He Got Game and of course, Glory.
That one scene where Spike lectures that one character about how he hates black people yet his favorite musician and ball player are both black was particularly cringeworthy.
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Sure, Do the Right Thing was a great movie if you believe all Italians are racist, gineau-T wearing greaseballs. I wonder if Scorcese had done a movie where the black characters are doing nothing but eating collared greens, shitting on whitey and committing crimes what the response would've been.
Do the Right Thing is dogshit. And as much as I dislike Spike, I can be objective enough to credit him for a job well done. See: He Got Game and of course, Glory.
LOL
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I don't think mj2sexay has ever seen Do The Right Thing.
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Dead Poets Society is better than Do The Right Thing.
I'd be OK with not seeing either ever again.
On second thought, Rosie Perez's boobs...
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How come nobody can spell guinea?
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How come nobody can spell guinea?
Vagineau
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I'd be OK with not seeing either ever again.
On second thought, Rosie Perez's boobs...
I watched Do The Right Thing about five years ago for the first time in more than a decade. I don't feel much need to see it again any time soon.
Still, it's awesome fun when black people hating on white people, white people hating on black people, black people hating on asians turns into "All Italians are racists". freaking Mookie and Vito are just about the only non-racially sensitive people in the movie and one of them's freaking Italian. I very much doubt mj2sexay has ever seen the movie.
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Lol. Good stuff
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Vagineau
Gineau Smith
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I'd be OK with not seeing either ever again.
This, I don't particularly think either has aged well. I see DPS on Starz/Encore and will not watch.
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