Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 01, 2019, 01:35:50 PM
Sucks, potential 1st-2nd rd talent
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 01, 2019, 01:52:53 PM
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@JReidNFL: If your team needs an Offensive Tackle, you’re in luck. Seems like a new name comes about everyday with the 2020 group. It’s legit and has the potential to be deep on all three days.
Finally something breaking our way.
Post by: MBGreen on November 01, 2019, 01:54:52 PM
Finally something breaking our way.
It obviously won't happen, but if we're in the top 5...this could be the year to trade back for some extra draft capital.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 01, 2019, 02:00:11 PM
Seems like Tristan Wirfs - OT - Iowa, Trey Smith - OT - Tenn, Alex Leatherwood - OT - Bama have first round grades.
I had Walker Little - OT - Stanford and Trey Adams - OT - Washington rated highly preseason, but haven’t heard/seen much of them.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 01, 2019, 02:01:21 PM
It obviously won't happen, but if we're in the top 5...this could be the year to trade back for some extra draft capital.
You say this literally every year and it never happens. I would probably rather take one of the elite prospects. Only way I want to trade down is for a massive package and I don’t really see anyone giving that up for one of this year’s QBs.
Post by: MBGreen on November 01, 2019, 02:06:31 PM
You say this literally every year and it never happens. I would probably rather take one of the elite prospects. Only way I want to trade down is for a massive package and I don’t really see anyone giving that up for one of this year’s QBs.
For this roster, it's a great idea every year.
Post by: Johnny English on November 01, 2019, 02:06:52 PM
Andrew Thomas - OT - Georgia seems like the consensus OT1 and a potential top 5 pick.Didn't Little pick up a bad injury?
Seems like Tristan Wirfs - OT - Iowa, Trey Smith - OT - Tenn, Alex Leatherwood - OT - Bama have first round grades.
I had Walker Little - OT - Stanford and Trey Adams - OT - Washington rated highly preseason, but haven’t heard/seen much of them.
Post by: bojanglesman on November 01, 2019, 02:06:52 PM
Post by: MBGreen on November 01, 2019, 02:08:19 PM
I'll settle for 1. 1 good lineman. Can we get 1?
we need 5.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 01, 2019, 02:20:02 PM
we need 5.
Adding an elite LT and finding a starting caliber C/OG would go a long way to making guys like Alex Lewis and Chuma Edoga look competent at LG and RT. Gotta start somewhere.
Post by: bojanglesman on November 01, 2019, 02:39:14 PM
we need 5.We have 0. I'm shooting for attainable goals with this team. I think.
Post by: MBGreen on November 01, 2019, 05:10:46 PM
Adding an elite LT and finding a starting caliber C/OG would go a long way to making guys like Alex Lewis and Chuma Edoga look competent at LG and RT. Gotta start somewhere.Oh I’m aware
I was just fine-tuning my math skills. I’m almost as good as Puck now.
Post by: delavan on November 02, 2019, 02:36:54 PM
Didn't Little pick up a bad injury?Little had season-ending injury in September. Trey Adams missed his two previous years from knee/back surgery.
some OL prospects today
SEC: Andrew Thomas and Ga. OL vs. Jabari Zuniga and Florida pass rush. Florida tops in sacks; Georgia fewest sacks allowed.
PAC 12: Oregon-USC. Oregon: Hanson, Lemieux, Throckmorton (Penei Sewell best of the bunch but not yet draft eligible). USC: Austin Jackson
Post by: MBGreen on November 02, 2019, 02:43:28 PM
some OL prospects today
SEC: Andrew Thomas and Ga. OL vs. Jabari Zuniga and Florida pass rush. Florida tops in sacks; Georgia fewest sacks allowed.
PAC 12: Oregon-USC. Oregon: Hanson, Lemieux, Throckmorton (Penei Sewell best of the bunch but not yet draft eligible). USC: Austin Jackson
Thanks babbie
Post by: delavan on November 02, 2019, 07:10:00 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 02, 2019, 10:19:47 PM
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 04, 2019, 01:02:58 PM
Andrew Thomas - OT - Georgia seems like the consensus OT1 and a potential top 5 pick.
We needed some Dawgs, start with this one.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 04, 2019, 11:01:36 PM
1. Penei Sewell, Oregon
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2. Josh Jones, Houston
3. Andrew Thomas, Georgia
4. Jedrick Wills Jr., Alabama
5. Matt Peart, UConn
6. Danny Pinter, Ball State
7. Robert Hunt, Louisiana
8. Blake Brandel, Oregon State”
PFF
Post by: Heismanberg on November 04, 2019, 11:52:47 PM
Penei Sewell looks like a really good prospect for the 2021 NFL Draft, but he benefits from playing in a tackle friendly scheme.
Oregon offensive linemen are always overrated.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 05, 2019, 06:25:27 AM
PFF cannot accurately grade offensive linemen.
Penei Sewell looks like a really good prospect for the 2021 NFL Draft, but he benefits from playing in a tackle friendly scheme.
Oregon offensive linemen are always overrated.
PFF college grades are less accurate/meaningful than their NFL grades.
I’ve said this before, but I almost never use PFF for their actual grading system. Just ranking/tiering/comparison. It’s impossible for me to watch every game with every team, so it’s useful to get a roundabout assessment of players that I’ll never get to watch. Using their numerical grades as fact is a mistake and something I’ve never done.
For instance, I don’t plan on watching UConn play at all this year but if I do flip to a game I’ll be sure to look for Matt Peart.
Post by: MBGreen on November 05, 2019, 07:21:58 AM
PFF college grades are less accurate/meaningful than their NFL grades.
I’ve said this before, but I almost never use PFF for their actual grading system. Just ranking/tiering/comparison. It’s impossible for me to watch every game with every team, so it’s useful to get a roundabout assessment of players that I’ll never get to watch. Using their numerical grades as fact is a mistake and something I’ve never done.
For instance, I don’t plan on watching UConn play at all this year but if I do flip to a game I’ll be sure to look for Matt Peart.
Matt Prrrt
Post by: delavan on November 09, 2019, 01:33:00 AM
https://twitter.com/youngchase907/status/1192819091993702400/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1192819091993702400&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbuckeyeswire.usatoday.com%2F2019%2F11%2F08%2Fchase-young-suspension-releases-statement-ohio-state-football%2F
Post by: Heismanberg on November 09, 2019, 05:21:43 AM
Chase Young sitting out today (vs. Maryland) due to possible NCAA violation committed in 2018
He received a loan from a family friend and already paid it back.
The NCAA is a joke.
Young had a legitimate shot at the Heisman.
Post by: delavan on November 09, 2019, 01:20:25 PM
He received a loan from a family friend and already paid it back.Agreed, total joke at this stage.
The NCAA is a joke.
Young had a legitimate shot at the Heisman.
Kirk Herbstreit sees it knocked down from 4 to 2 games.
https://twitter.com/KirkHerbstreit/status/1193231670750695424?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Post by: Pope on November 09, 2019, 02:32:48 PM
Post by: Badger on November 13, 2019, 11:35:30 AM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 13, 2019, 11:46:46 AM
https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1194669081116303360?s=09
Everything coming up Millhouse
Post by: delavan on November 13, 2019, 05:20:42 PM
https://twitter.com/youngchase907/status/1194667885513334784
Post by: Gorilla on November 25, 2019, 11:42:06 AM
I'd be ecstatic with any other high-end OT prospect or WR (I'd be especially stoked if Lamb fell to us).
Post by: mj2sexay on November 25, 2019, 01:06:07 PM
Then again I'm pretty sure that info was broke by Pauline, so they're probably as good as gone.
Post by: Libero_2 on November 25, 2019, 07:47:58 PM
Lot of scuttlebutt that Wirfs and Epenesa might return to Iowa.
Then again I'm pretty sure that info was broke by Pauline, so they're probably as good as gone.
That would suck for us. Both could be candidates at 10. I like Wirfs a lot. He and Thomas will be a dog fight for OT #1 I think.
Post by: Heismanberg on November 25, 2019, 09:05:42 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 25, 2019, 10:33:42 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on November 26, 2019, 05:34:39 AM
Chaisson > EpenesaMeh. Epenesas have overall better handling on the road even though Chassions get better gas mileage.
Post by: Heismanberg on November 26, 2019, 07:10:54 AM
Gord latter rounds elite
We need to draft my actual son, Gage Cervenka in the late rounds
That way I can get on field passes forever
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 29, 2019, 11:19:59 PM
1 Bengals - Joe Burrow
2 Redskins - Chase Young
3 Lions -
4 Giants -
5 Dolphins -
6 Chargers -
7 Panthers -
8 Cardinals -
9 Jaguars -
10 Browns -
11 Jets -
Tua Tagovailoa
Justin Herbert
Teams that need QBs: Dolphins, Chargers, Panthers, Jaguars?
Post by: Heismanberg on December 29, 2019, 11:23:39 PM
Someone (Heis?) mentioned it in another thread, we really need Tua to check out medically and someone to think about taking Herbert in the top 10.
1 Bengals - Joe Burrow
2 Redskins - Chase Young
3 Lions -
4 Giants -
5 Dolphins -
6 Chargers -
7 Panthers -
8 Cardinals -
9 Jaguars -
10 Browns -
11 Jets -
Tua Tagovailoa
Justin Herbert
Teams that need QBs: Dolphins, Chargers, Panthers, Jaguars?
I'm interested to see what happens with Detroit. Matt Stafford's back might be toast. I doubt they'll take a QB, but it's a situation to monitor.
Even if they don't go QB, that pick has to be Jeff Okudah leaving Andrew Thomas/Tristan Wirfs for the Giants.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 29, 2019, 11:27:08 PM
I'm interested to see what happens with Detroit. Matt Stafford's back might be toast. I doubt they'll take a QB, but it's a situation to monitor.
Even if they don't go QB, that pick has to be Jeff Okudah leaving Andrew Thomas/Tristan Wirfs for the Giants.
Fair point on Detroit. Need to start the Jake Eason or Jordan Love hype train early this year
I wanted to lock in Okudah to Detroit and Thomas to Giants but it’s so early. I think those are pretty safe matches at this early stage though
Post by: Heismanberg on December 29, 2019, 11:29:10 PM
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I wanted to lock in Okudah to Detroit and Thomas to Giants but it’s so early. I think those are pretty safe matches at this early stage though
I think we can cross Jerry Jeudy and Ceedee Lamb off of our list at 11.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 29, 2019, 11:29:31 PM
I think we can cross Jerry Jeudy and Ceedee Lamb off of our list at 11.
NO
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 29, 2019, 11:31:18 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on December 29, 2019, 11:33:42 PM
So many of those teams need WRs it’ll be a miracle. I will never give up hope until the dream is dead. We need a OT anyway is what I’ll tell myself between sobbing fits
Can't see Kliff passing on Ceedee Lamb at 8. Jeudy will be off the board before then.
I could see Adam Gase being a huge fan of Tee Higgins, who would actually be a great fit with Sam.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 29, 2019, 11:35:53 PM
Can't see Kliff passing on Ceedee Lamb at 8. Jeudy will be off the board before then.
I could see Adam Gase being a huge fan of Tee Higgins, who would actually be a great fit with Sam.
I had Tee Higgins on a similar level to Lamb after last year until Lamb looked like he was playing on a another planet this season
Post by: Heismanberg on December 29, 2019, 11:43:58 PM
I had Tee Higgins on a similar level to Lamb after last year until Lamb looked like he was playing on a another planet this season
To me, it's still Jerry Jeudy and then everyone else.
Higgins and Shenault are almost underrated right now. I'd prefer to see us wait to draft a receiver because the group is ridiculously deep.
We need to fix OL first or our weapons won't matter.
Post by: Libero_2 on December 30, 2019, 08:10:44 AM
To me, it's still Jerry Jeudy and then everyone else.
Higgins and Shenault are almost underrated right now. I'd prefer to see us wait to draft a receiver because the group is ridiculously deep.
We need to fix OL first or our weapons won't matter.
This is as true as it gets. Assuming we keep Robbie, what our offense lacks is the big body red zone threat possession receiver guy who can go box people out. I’m not sure who the options are this year, but I loved Arcega-Whiteside and Butler last year for that role.
Post by: Laxin on December 30, 2019, 10:22:05 AM
So many of those teams need WRs it’ll be a miracle. I will never give up hope until the dream is dead. We need a OT anyway is what I’ll tell myself between sobbing fits
Its really just the Panthers, Cardinals and Jags that would worry me. Despite having a need, all 3 do have young promising WRs that they recently invested in and have showed promise. Its possible one slips, but it's probably not likely.
Post by: mj2sexay on December 30, 2019, 10:41:18 AM
Dolphins and Chargers seem like solid landing spots for Tua provided all the medicals check out.
Panthers are another team that might be in the market if a new coaching staff wants to move on from Cam.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 30, 2019, 02:15:01 PM
Someone (Heis?) mentioned it in another thread, we really need Tua to check out medically and someone to think about taking Herbert in the top 10.
1 Bengals - Joe Burrow
2 Redskins - Chase Young
3 Lions -
4 Giants -
5 Dolphins -
6 Chargers -
7 Panthers -
8 Cardinals -
9 Jaguars -
10 Browns -
11 Jets -
Tua Tagovailoa
Justin Herbert
Teams that need QBs: Dolphins, Chargers, Panthers, Jaguars?
I forgot about Isiah Simmons yesterday. Need him to go top 10, and he should. I think he’s better than Devin White or Roquan Smith.
IDL Derrick Brown from Auburn is another guy that we should root for to go high.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 30, 2019, 02:17:35 PM
2 Redskins - Chase Young
3 Lions - Okudah
4 Giants - Isaiah Simmons
5 Dolphins - Tua
6 Chargers - Herbert
7 Panthers - Jacob Eason/Jordan Love
8 Cardinals -
9 Jaguars - Jacob Eason/Jordan Love
10 Browns -
11 Jets -
Andrew Thomas
Tristan Wirfs
Jerry Jeudy
CeeDee Lamb
I think Eason and Love are a big stretch to go top 10, but that would be nice wouldn’t it.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 21, 2020, 12:58:22 PM
I’m sure this won’t make the draft take any longer than it already does
Post by: bojanglesman on January 21, 2020, 01:45:40 PM
https://twitter.com/arashmarkazi/status/1219686221019959296?s=21There's a "black people can't swim" joke in here somewhere.
I’m sure this won’t make the draft take any longer than it already does
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 25, 2020, 08:49:07 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on January 25, 2020, 09:08:12 AM
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-shawn-jefferson-senior-bowl-wide-receivers-20200125-qubfg4wvhrgrff74mn76ufc2ha-story.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true
He has an unbreakable bond with his own son?
YOU DON'T SAY
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 25, 2020, 11:27:53 AM
He has an unbreakable bond with his own son?
YOU DON'T SAY
Manish has a source inside the family that is saying Mrs. Jefferson’s car is green
Post by: bojanglesman on January 25, 2020, 11:31:21 AM
Manish has a source inside the family that is saying Mrs. Jefferson’s car is green..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200125/f19503f315b3caa09a294388abfd62a4.gif)
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 26, 2020, 10:46:19 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on March 22, 2020, 11:55:30 AM
Sounds like it will be held in a closed setting. I keep hoping they'll go back to the old format -- all day Saturday and Sunday.
Post by: Libero_2 on March 22, 2020, 12:19:31 PM
The draft will longer be held in Las Vegas at all.
Sounds like it will be held in a closed setting. I keep hoping they'll go back to the old format -- all day Saturday and Sunday.
I would love to see it, but I just can’t imagine the NFL giving up the eyes since it’s not getting any real live experiences due to the virus
Post by: Pope on March 22, 2020, 12:48:23 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on March 22, 2020, 02:12:42 PM
They are not moving the first round from prime time on Thursday night, can’t see it. It’s become a huge eventexcrement, if anything, they can probably make it 1 round a day, and 15 minutes per pick, and we would watch every second. Or maybe do 1 round a day for the first 3 rounds, then do the final 4 rounds in one day. They could stretch out the draft, and with nothing else on, we would all eat it up.
Post by: bojanglesman on March 29, 2020, 02:25:19 PM
https://t.co/IHrY3XUNuhPost by: Heismanberg on April 04, 2020, 09:18:29 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on April 04, 2020, 09:20:45 PM
Benjamin Solak should not be allowed to give any takes about football.
Did you look at his top 200?
What in the holy hell is that list? There are a lot of WTF are you looking at takes on that list
Post by: reuben on April 04, 2020, 09:24:14 PM
Benjamin Solak should not be allowed to give any takes about football.
Shenault ahead of Jeudy and Ruggs.
fuckouttahere
Post by: Heismanberg on April 04, 2020, 09:31:14 PM
Shenault ahead of Jeudy and Ruggs.
fuckouttahere
And he keeps calling him "Viska"
Post by: Heismanberg on April 04, 2020, 09:32:55 PM
Did you look at his top 200?
What in the holy hell is that list? There are a lot of WTF are you looking at takes on that list
Red Flag: Athletic Testing
Red Flag: Character
STFU
Post by: Heismanberg on April 05, 2020, 07:31:49 AM
"I heard of this guy because I watched the National Championship game. The Jets should draft him."
Post by: Libero_2 on April 05, 2020, 07:57:40 AM
Red Flag: Athletic Testing
Red Flag: Character
STFU
I don’t have a problem with a guy listing his flags/concerns.
But his list just doesn’t make sense. I’m perfectly fine with people having dissenting opinions about some guys. But his list is on its head compared to the rest of the draft world in so many ways. That means he’s daft and/or hunting for clicks. Given the fact that in general TDN doesn’t appear to be a desperate for clickbait site, I’m inclined to think he’s either completely daft or just way over attention-seeking.
Post by: Libero_2 on April 05, 2020, 07:59:10 AM
Brian Costello is so clueless that he's writing articles about the Jets drafting another tight end fairly early in the draft.
"I heard of this guy because I watched the National Championship game. The Jets should draft him."
I don’t understand why this narrative exists. We have a good young TE in Herndon, just signed Griffin, who played well to an extension, and drafted Wesco last year, who proved to be a pretty solid blocker. What more do we want in our TEs and why do people think we need one? Sure we don’t have a top 5-8 TE but neither does 3/4 of the league.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 05, 2020, 08:14:29 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 05, 2020, 08:43:03 AM
I don’t have a problem with a guy listing his flags/concerns.
I will always have an issue with someone outside of a program questioning a player's character. It's something that Tony Pauline does all the time too.
Tyler Johnson has never been in trouble in his life and he is knocking him for "character concerns". He didn't coach him and he's never even met him or been around him. How does he know anything about Tyler Johnson's character?
Post by: Andrew Ryan on April 05, 2020, 08:45:11 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 05, 2020, 08:58:18 AM
So players drafted in the third round or later just don't practice or receive coaching. Makes plenty of sense.
Post by: insanity on April 05, 2020, 02:25:16 PM
Gat Dayum. You can't defend that.That is a thing of beauty
Post by: reuben on April 05, 2020, 06:46:09 PM
Brian Costello is so clueless that he's writing articles about the Jets drafting another tight end fairly early in the draft.
"I heard of this guy because I watched the National Championship game. The Jets should draft him."
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Tight end is one of the Jets’ strongest positions entering the 2020 season, but...
I feel like this is the basis of so many of the Post's analyses.
"My hot take doesn't really apply here, but... [200 words on hot take]."
Post by: loyaljetsfan on April 06, 2020, 12:07:44 PM
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Daniel Jeremiah
@MoveTheSticks
I talked to 2 GMs in last 24 hours and both believe UGA OT Isaiah Wilson will go in the 1st round. That’s too rich for me but it looks like it’s going to happen. Betting on the upside.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 06, 2020, 12:14:16 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on April 06, 2020, 12:41:02 PM
So there's going to be a crazy run on tackles if Wilson goes in the first rounds...
All the more reason why we probably need to get our guy at 11.
Or... it might be Seattle doing Seattle things and reaching past 3-4-5 players to get a guy they like, just because
Post by: Heismanberg on April 06, 2020, 02:18:49 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 06, 2020, 02:22:38 PM
If Wirfs falls to 7, we need to make a move up for him.I don't know if he's worth the loss of picks for a developing team.
If we could do it for a 4th, maybe.
Daniel Jeremiah mentioned him as OK as a tackle, all-pro potential as a guard. Just going on the top 50 article he puts out.
Post by: Libero_2 on April 06, 2020, 02:24:27 PM
I don't know if he's worth the loss of picks for a developing team.
Depends what we need to give up. If we can do it for 68 or 79, I think it’s worth it. Especially since I’m smelling a trade back coming from 48.
But I also really love the idea of standing at 11, then trading back into the late 20s for a sliding Josh Jones or Justin Jefferson. And if we move up for Wirfs, we certainly won’t be doing that move to late round 1 unless the value is completely disproportionate, IE Ruggs still on the board at 27 or so
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 06, 2020, 02:43:28 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 06, 2020, 02:44:42 PM
There aren’t any players in this draft that are worth trading up for us if you’re considering the price. One of the top 4 OTs or 1 of the top 3 WRs will be there at 11, and I’m fine with any of them.You'll take a TE or DL and like it.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 06, 2020, 02:45:27 PM
You'll take a TE or DL and like it.
Matt Peart at 11
Post by: bojanglesman on April 06, 2020, 02:48:07 PM
Matt Peart at 11Neil Peart's preserved limbs at 11.
(https://www.insidehook.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/GettyImages-81009892.jpg?fit=1024%2C729)
Post by: Libero_2 on April 06, 2020, 03:13:41 PM
There aren’t any players in this draft that are worth trading up for us if you’re considering the price. One of the top 4 OTs or 1 of the top 3 WRs will be there at 11, and I’m fine with any of them.
If Douglas has Wirfs (or any of the OTs on a tier by themselves and makes a move up to get his guy, it has the potential to be worth it.
Especially when we can trade back later in the draft to recoup a lost selection.
Now if he has to use large quantities of picks or #48 to do it, I’m a lot less on board. But I personally think Wirfs is the perfect fit for us, and if he’s within striking distance I’d be very tempted to go get him.
That said I’d feel a lot better about it if we only had to get to 9.
Post by: MBGreen on April 06, 2020, 03:29:26 PM
There aren’t any players in this draft that are worth trading up for us if you’re considering the price. One of the top 4 OTs or 1 of the top 3 WRs will be there at 11, and I’m fine with any of them.This is where I’m at too
Post by: Heismanberg on April 06, 2020, 03:47:43 PM
I don't know if he's worth the loss of picks for a developing team.
If we can trade our original third or a fourth to move up for him, it's more than worth it.
You can a potentially elite linemen (whether you play him at guard or tackle). You aren't getting that in the middle of the third round.
People keep lumping Andrew Thomas into the same tier as Wirfs/Wills/Becton and he just isn't there.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 06, 2020, 03:48:55 PM
IE Ruggs still on the board at 27 or so
Henry Ruggs could be the first receiver off the board. He's not falling to the end of the first round.
Post by: Libero_2 on April 06, 2020, 04:15:27 PM
Henry Ruggs could be the first receiver off the board. He's not falling to the end of the first round.
That’s my point, it’s the only scenario I could see is trading up into the top 10, and then also trading 48 + something to get back into round 1, unless there is some insane value on the board at a major position of need. The example of complete insanity I have was Ruggs being available.
Post by: reuben on April 06, 2020, 04:55:26 PM
If Wirfs falls to 7, we need to make a move up for him.
I'm fine with Douglas doing whatever he thinks is necessary to get his lineman. I trust his ability to distinguish between the top OL prospects the same way I trusted Mangini & Co.'s ability to distinguish between the top corners in 2007. It's his respective area of expertise.
I also could care less about whether we draft a left tackle, right tackle, or guard. We need a very good to great offensive lineman in round one, period.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 06, 2020, 05:29:30 PM
The Bills went from 12 to 7 in 2018 and it cost them 2 second rounders
Post by: bojanglesman on April 06, 2020, 05:36:28 PM
I'm fine with Douglas doing whatever he thinks is necessary to get his lineman. I trust his ability to distinguish between the top OL prospects the same way I trusted Mangini & Co.'s ability to distinguish between the top corners in 2007. It's his respective area of expertise.We need a tackle more than a guard.
I also could care less about whether we draft a left tackle, right tackle, or guard. We need a very good to great offensive lineman in round one, period.
Post by: Libero_2 on April 06, 2020, 05:51:10 PM
I just don’t think we’re in position to be trading any picks away. This roster is depleted. Duff didn’t do Joe Douglas any favors with the way he’s drafted recently.
The Bills went from 12 to 7 in 2018 and it cost them 2 second rounders
The price is always different for a QB. And I don’t know how many takers Carolina will have for #7. If not us, then who? If no one else is buying and you simply want off the pick/get as many selections as you can, they will take what they can get, if it’s within reason
Now keep in mind what we can afford and what they find reasonable may be two entirely different things, especially if anyone else comes calling
Post by: Libero_2 on April 06, 2020, 05:53:09 PM
We need a tackle more than a guard.
I think Reubens point is, it doesn’t matter if we move up, down, stay put. As long as we bring in a top OL, regardless of position, he will be strongly supportive of the move.
Post by: reuben on April 06, 2020, 06:12:34 PM
We need a tackle more than a guard.
I see big question marks everywhere besides center. Greg van Roten is being paid like a 30 year old back-up and we have a clear out on Alex Lewis' contract next season. For all we know George Fant is The Truth, Chuma Edoga takes a massive step forward in year 2 and guard is our weakest position on the line.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 06, 2020, 06:18:11 PM
The price is always different for a QB. And I don’t know how many takers Carolina will have for #7. If not us, then who? If no one else is buying and you simply want off the pick/get as many selections as you can, they will take what they can get, if it’s within reason
Now keep in mind what we can afford and what they find reasonable may be two entirely different things, especially if anyone else comes calling
We haven’t had a 2nd round pick the last 2 drafts. I’m not interested in giving up any of our picks that hold value.
Post by: Johnny English on April 06, 2020, 06:37:48 PM
We haven’t had a 2nd round pick the last 2 drafts.
Thus improving the quality of our 2nd round drafting.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 06, 2020, 08:58:06 PM
What a strange way for Joe Douglas to participate in his first draft.
Post by: Libero_2 on April 06, 2020, 09:32:14 PM
The draft is going to be entirely virtual.
What a strange way for Joe Douglas to participate in his first draft.
I’m thinking we see a severe lack of trades (compared to recent years) as a result. It’s only going to be pre-arranged, or trades coordinated by very desperate teams.
Going to be very very interesting watching it play out
Post by: Johnny English on April 06, 2020, 09:39:50 PM
I’m thinking we see a severe lack of trades (compared to recent years) as a result. It’s only going to be pre-arranged, or trades coordinated by very desperate teams.
Going to be very very interesting watching it play out
Why? Pretty sure draft trades happen almost exclusively over the phone anyway.
Post by: Libero_2 on April 06, 2020, 09:50:38 PM
Why? Pretty sure draft trades happen almost exclusively over the phone anyway.
Changes delay the process. And I think coordinating that many people on the phone (2 GMs, 2 Coaches, Scouting Personnel, Owners etc) is going to be hard when no one is going to be in the same place.
I think trades will still happen, I just don’t think it will be as many as in the past
Post by: Johnny English on April 06, 2020, 09:55:30 PM
Changes delay the process. And I think coordinating that many people on the phone (2 GMs, 2 Coaches, Scouting Personnel, Owners etc) is going to be hard when no one is going to be in the same place.
I think trades will still happen, I just don’t think it will be as many as in the past
You do know that conferencing software is a thing, right? My wife is using it right now to talk with a bunch of her friends in a bunch of different places about some excrement I have no interest in. There's zero reason why an NFL front office and scouting team wouldn't have the same, and frankly any that isn't doing that is surrendering an advantage to the others. Separation will make no impact at all on whether and how trades are made.
Post by: reuben on April 06, 2020, 10:10:58 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 07, 2020, 04:00:53 AM
You do know that conferencing software is a thing, right? My wife is using it right now to talk with a bunch of her friends in a bunch of different places about some excrement I have no interest in. There's zero reason why an NFL front office and scouting team wouldn't have the same, and frankly any that isn't doing that is surrendering an advantage to the others. Separation will make no impact at all on whether and how trades are made.Disagree. Having everyone in a room together on each team makes things a lot easier. There will still be trades, but I think the volume will go down. I've been doing Zoom and Google Hangouts for weeks now with friends and family. It's nice, but it's not the same.
Post by: Johnny English on April 07, 2020, 11:56:42 AM
Disagree. Having everyone in a room together on each team makes things a lot easier. There will still be trades, but I think the volume will go down. I've been doing Zoom and Google Hangouts for weeks now with friends and family. It's nice, but it's not the same.
You're conflating freeware with corporate collaboration platforms. NFL teams aren't going to be using free downloads to run their draft sessions, they're going to have fully featured Teams / Webex and possibly even telepresence environments. You can't compare you having a beer over Zoom with a few friends to a walled garden corporate collaboration system - even the software many of us are using on our desktops daily for work isn't in the same league as the high end toolsets.
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 07, 2020, 12:02:58 PM
You're conflating freeware with corporate collaboration platforms. NFL teams aren't going to be using free downloads to run their draft sessions, they're going to have fully featured Teams / Webex and possibly even telepresence environments. You can't compare you having a beer over Zoom with a few friends to a walled garden corporate collaboration system - even the software many of us are using on our desktops daily for work isn't in the same league as the high end toolsets.
You just know there's going to be one team that skimps and goes Zoom on draft day, and all of their picks go public beforehand and someone zoombombs the meeting with goatsee.
I just hope it's the Browns or Redskins and not the Jets.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 07, 2020, 12:07:45 PM
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 07, 2020, 12:17:15 PM
You're conflating freeware with corporate collaboration platforms. NFL teams aren't going to be using free downloads to run their draft sessions, they're going to have fully featured Teams / Webex and possibly even telepresence environments. You can't compare you having a beer over Zoom with a few friends to a walled garden corporate collaboration system - even the software many of us are using on our desktops daily for work isn't in the same league as the high end toolsets.
what applications are you using or do you feel are safe to use for tele/video - conferencing?
unfortunately the precedent being used in the medical community so far is to rely on zoom for such meetings, including my institution. with the security and (lack of) privacy offered by the program right now, it essentially feels like malware on your desktop. i haven't been successful in getting this message across
Post by: bojanglesman on April 07, 2020, 12:29:59 PM
You just know there's going to be one team that skimps and goes Zoom on draft day, and all of their picks go public beforehand and someone zoombombs the meeting with goatsee.With the 11th overall pick, the Jets select.....oh that's a ballsac.
I just hope it's the Browns or Redskins and not the Jets.
Post by: Johnny English on April 07, 2020, 12:44:57 PM
what applications are you using or do you feel are safe to use for tele/video - conferencing?
unfortunately the precedent being used in the medical community so far is to rely on zoom for such meetings, including my institution. with the security and (lack of) privacy offered by the program right now, it essentially feels like malware on your desktop. i haven't been successful in getting this message across
After years of competing with them I've been using Microsoft Teams for a few months and it's excellent. It's well featured and it's operated entirely in Microsoft's Azure network, which is much stronger than most other offers using a patchwork of data centers or just stood up in a few AWS instances. As a healthcare institution you almost certainly already have Teams licensing as part of your O365 setup, although possibly not enough to roll out across the board - this is something your IT department should be looking at, but because it's already certified HIPAA-compliant there really shouldn't be many obstacles to doing it.
Outside of Teams, Cisco's Webex platform is well proven. I haven't used it in some time so I can't speak to how good the interface is now, but it will be secure. Teams is really the optimal route though IMO.
For NFL teams, you're into a whole other level beyond - some teams may well have and/or build telepresence suites for this, which will often cost north of six figures per room but give you high grade video, multi camera / multi-mic coverage, real time whiteboard collaboration and so on.
Post by: Miamipuck on April 07, 2020, 12:48:39 PM
Post by: Johnny English on April 07, 2020, 12:55:25 PM
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Update March 2020: There are now serious concerns about the security of Zoom. This creates doubts about using Zoom for communicating medical information, which needs to be fully protected under HIPAA. Zoom has publicly committed to upgrading its security and fixing all security problems. Until the security issues with Zoom are resolved, alternative telemedicine solutions should be used.
From https://www.hipaajournal.com/zoom-hipaa-compliant/
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 07, 2020, 01:07:02 PM
Actually d swordz, if you need something with which to reinforce your view (which IMO is correct and you're right not to be entrusting PHI to Zoom):
From https://www.hipaajournal.com/zoom-hipaa-compliant/
thanks for all the help JE
Post by: Johnny English on April 07, 2020, 01:07:47 PM
thanks for all the help JE
Finally something I know a little bit about.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 07, 2020, 01:38:29 PM
Sources: Steelers GM Kevin Colbert proposed three more rounds for 2020 NFL Draft to offset coronavirus restrictions.
This would be sick
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 07, 2020, 01:40:59 PM
After years of competing with them I've been using Microsoft Teams for a few months and it's excellent. It's well featured and it's operated entirely in Microsoft's Azure network, which is much stronger than most other offers using a patchwork of data centers or just stood up in a few AWS instances. As a healthcare institution you almost certainly already have Teams licensing as part of your O365 setup, although possibly not enough to roll out across the board - this is something your IT department should be looking at, but because it's already certified HIPAA-compliant there really shouldn't be many obstacles to doing it.
Outside of Teams, Cisco's Webex platform is well proven. I haven't used it in some time so I can't speak to how good the interface is now, but it will be secure. Teams is really the optimal route though IMO.
For NFL teams, you're into a whole other level beyond - some teams may well have and/or build telepresence suites for this, which will often cost north of six figures per room but give you high grade video, multi camera / multi-mic coverage, real time whiteboard collaboration and so on.
We use Cisco WebEx. No complaints here, and it’s very secure. We can share military/govt info over our VPN which is a big no no over any medium outside of the network.
Post by: Johnny English on April 07, 2020, 02:33:54 PM
We use Cisco WebEx. No complaints here, and it’s very secure. We can share military/govt info over our VPN which is a big no no over any medium outside of the network.
Yes, it's excellent. The advantage of Teams is that it's part of the Office 365 suite, so most organisations already have it installed. You just apply a license and off you go, whereas with Webex there's a process of implementing and configuring it.
Post by: MBGreen on April 07, 2020, 02:47:17 PM
Yes, it's excellent. The advantage of Teams is that it's part of the Office 365 suite, so most organisations already have it installed. You just apply a license and off you go, whereas with Webex there's a process of implementing and configuring it.
We use both (we purchased a temp license for Teams for the duration of the covid19 work from home situation...and see how it goes). Personally, Teams is pretty good, i really like the screen share option. Makes collaborating a snap.
Post by: Libero_2 on April 07, 2020, 03:30:08 PM
Sources: Steelers GM Kevin Colbert proposed three more rounds for 2020 NFL Draft to offset coronavirus restrictions.
I'm not sure how this helps. I suppose it minimizes the risk, but are you drafting a guy with medical concerns in round 5 or round 8?
Either way, more draft is good all around for fans and us.
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 07, 2020, 03:30:45 PM
Sources: Steelers GM Kevin Colbert proposed three more rounds for 2020 NFL Draft to offset coronavirus restrictions.I'm surprised this hasn't already been announced or at least further discussed. UDFA signing is going to be even crazier than usual. Extending the draft seems like a fair solution this year.
I'm also a little surprised they haven't extended how long teams have to pick, or even extended the draft. Who wouldn't watch this for 4-5 days? Round 1 on Day 1. Rounds 2-3 on Day 2. Rounds 4-6 on Day 3. Rounds 7-10 on Day 4.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 07, 2020, 09:56:04 PM
Yes, it's excellent. The advantage of Teams is that it's part of the Office 365 suite, so most organisations already have it installed. You just apply a license and off you go, whereas with Webex there's a process of implementing and configuring it.
I would rather have something Microsoft based, almost every single application I use for work is out of there
Post by: bojanglesman on April 08, 2020, 11:21:27 AM
Draft notes:
— This used to be when teams work out players individually. Now, they request a player do a certain drill they want & the player sends them the tape.
— #FIU QB James Morgan is pushing to be a mid-rounder, interviewing well. He’s on with the #Jets today for instance.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 08, 2020, 12:31:30 PM
Rapsheet:
Draft notes:
— This used to be when teams work out players individually. Now, they request a player do a certain drill they want & the player sends them the tape.
— #FIU QB James Morgan is pushing to be a mid-rounder, interviewing well. He’s on with the #Jets today for instance.
I think if Douglas can move back and acquire more picks, he should use one on backup quarterback
Post by: Heismanberg on April 08, 2020, 12:36:37 PM
Big arm, mechanically sound
Post by: Johnny English on April 08, 2020, 12:54:17 PM
I think if Douglas can move back and acquire more picks, he should use one on backup quarterback
Instead of a vet? Or would you carry 4? We can't go into the season with Fales or a mid round rookie as Sam's #2, surely.
Post by: Libero_2 on April 08, 2020, 01:19:51 PM
Instead of a vet? Or would you carry 4? We can't go into the season with Fales or a mid round rookie as Sam's #2, surely.
Definitely wouldn’t carry 4. Fales can freak off in this scenario.
I would assume we have 4 in camp, Fales, Rookie and a get with no guaranteed money until they are on the roster week 1. If the rookie proves more than capable of the job, we kick the vet to the curb. In the more likely scenario he doesn’t, we have the vet ready to roll, while the rookie learns for a year
We don’t have enough picks to warrant a 4th or 5th on a QB right now. But in the event we end up with a few extras by trading down, it’s a worthwhile pick. We need a real backup, and preferably one we don’t need to spend 5+ million on. Only way to get one is to draft one
Post by: Heismanberg on April 08, 2020, 01:25:25 PM
Instead of a vet? Or would you carry 4? We can't go into the season with Fales or a mid round rookie as Sam's #2, surely.
Still holding out hope for Matt Moore or Joe Flacco to be the true backup.
I'd have the rookie compete with David Fales for a #3 spot. Hopefully stash one of the practice squad.
If we take a QB with the 6th or 7th rounder, it won't sting too much if he can't hang on to a roster spot. I'm hoping for a prospect like Cole McDonald, Nate Stanley, or Jake Luton in the late rounds. Those guys have upside and a lot of NFL traits. James Morgan does too, but it seems like he might have vaulted into the middle rounds.
Post by: Pope on April 08, 2020, 09:29:13 PM
Yes, it's excellent. The advantage of Teams is that it's part of the Office 365 suite, so most organisations already have it installed. You just apply a license and off you go, whereas with Webex there's a process of implementing and configuring it.The NFL will almost certainly be using Teams as they already heavily promote Microsoft Surface on all sidelines and in the booth.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 09, 2020, 08:43:01 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 09, 2020, 08:57:03 AM
Jaylon Johnson.... I'm no expert, but based on what I can read, he seems like a good fit for the Jets. Excels in press, physical, good tackler. Maybe he could be a 2nd round target.
Shoulder injury that is a bit worrisome
Post by: bojanglesman on April 09, 2020, 09:05:12 AM
Shoulder injury that is a bit worrisomeI saw that he had surgery, don't know for sure the recovery time frame. Looks like 5 months, which would have him ready for camp if there is one.
I try not to lean completely on Daniel Jeremiah 100%, but he's pretty reliable usually. Has him as the #29 overall prospect. Might be able to get good value if he slips to the 3rd because of difficulty vetting players' injuries.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 09, 2020, 10:46:21 AM
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Post by: bojanglesman on April 11, 2020, 06:31:54 PM
-Becton
-Jeudy
-Wills
-Ruggs
-Wirfs
-Lamb
That's my order.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 11, 2020, 06:35:50 PM
Rank the following, assuming all are on the board at 11 (I know they won't be, but humor me):
-Becton
-Jeudy
-Wills
-Ruggs
-Wirfs
-Lamb
That's my order.
Becton
Wirfs
Wills
Jeudy
Lamb
Ruggs
Post by: Libero_2 on April 11, 2020, 06:50:47 PM
Wills
Becton
Jeudy
Ruggs
Lamb
I say this because H has convinced me both Wills and Wirfs and better fits for us. Combine that with Becton being the most boom/bust of those 3, and I’d go the other way. That’s said if he’s OT3 and Wills/Wirfs are gone, I’d take him in a nanosecond for Sam.
If all 3 are gone, I’d go Jeudy first, then Ruggs. With Lamb I’m just weary, I don’t think he will dominate NFL defenders the way he did Big XII defenders. If we take him I’ll get it and I’ll hope like hell hes the best WR in the class, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up a top 5-10 we from this class. I just don’t value that in the top 15 that much.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 11, 2020, 07:07:50 PM
Post by: loyaljetsfan on April 13, 2020, 12:14:04 PM
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Daniel Jeremiah
My top 5 WR for 2020 NFL Draft
1) CeeDee Lamb
2) Jerry Jeudy
3) Henry Ruggs
4) Justin Jefferson
5) Brandon Aiyuk
Post by: Heismanberg on April 13, 2020, 01:15:14 PM
Post by: Coach K on April 13, 2020, 05:09:11 PM
Tee Higgins is so underrated right now.
If all 4 OTs go I wouldn't be opposed to trading down fkr him if we can get a 3rd and 4th or future 2bd
Hes my favorite guy not named Lamb or Ruggs or Lamb
Post by: MBGreen on April 14, 2020, 01:28:04 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 14, 2020, 01:42:48 PM
Apparently Wisconsin LB Zack Baun submitted a diluted urine sample at the combine. Good night sweet prince.
Tested positive for Rogaine
Truthfully though, with that ugly derriere hairline of his, he most likely it taking some roids.
Post by: MBGreen on April 14, 2020, 01:54:33 PM
Tested positive for Rogaine
Truthfully though, with that ugly derriere hairline of his, he most likely it taking some roids.
with the draft being more of a crapshoot this year due to no physicals, private workouts or pro days....hopefully big Doug lands some late-round gold, and avoids drafting any lemons. We're so overdue for a good draft class from top to bottom.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 15, 2020, 02:33:01 PM
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Michael Pittman Jr. on The Herd says he models his game after:
Brandon Marshall
Mike Evans
Michael Thomas
Says that he would move in with Sam Darnold if the Jets drafted him
Sign This Beast
Post by: Heismanberg on April 15, 2020, 02:51:01 PM
Sign This Beast
Wouldn't be shocked if we move back into the second for him
Post by: Libero_2 on April 15, 2020, 03:17:44 PM
Wouldn't be shocked if we move back into the second for him
Where is he going? I saw a mock today where he goes to SF at 31. Yet prevailing opinion has been mostly a late 2 early 3 since the combine.
I have no idea when he is going, but I would love to have him in Green and White.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 15, 2020, 03:52:55 PM
Where is he going? I saw a mock today where he goes to SF at 31. Yet prevailing opinion has been mostly a late 2 early 3 since the combine.
I have no idea when he is going, but I would love to have him in Green and White.
I have no idea
If we see a run on wideouts in the top 20, then he could go at the backend of the first.
Those last few picks in the first round are always crazy valuable because of the fifth year option.
Post by: reuben on April 15, 2020, 07:14:40 PM
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SNY's Ralph Vacchiano reports the Jets have been eyeing Alabama WR Henry Ruggs "very closely."
Ruggs, Jerry Jeudy, and CeeDee Lamb are all likely on the Jets' radar, but it's unclear what their order is. It's also unclear if they are leaning towards a receiver or an offensive tackle with their No. 11 pick. Vacchiano notes the Jets may go offensive tackle, assuming one of the consensus top four options are available, given the depth of the receiver position. One thing that is clear: Sam Darnold needs help. Jamison Crowder and Breshad Perriman are fine in their respected roles, but New York is missing an alpha receiver. Expect the Jets to go fishing for one with a top-100 pick.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 15, 2020, 07:53:27 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on April 15, 2020, 07:55:44 PM
Trade back and take Ruggs
I am a huge fan of that move if “our” OT isn’t there.
I’m telling you the best scenario (for our WR corps anyways) is trading back for Ruggs and then landing Pittman in round 2.
If you are right about the medicals, an OT like Lucas Niang (who has a reasonable and routine injury that people recover from easily) might slide to 68.....
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 15, 2020, 08:26:46 PM
Trade back and take Ruggs
interestingly enough he wasn't on the list of pre-draft interviewees for us
Post by: MBGreen on April 17, 2020, 08:35:15 AM
i am excite.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 17, 2020, 08:46:14 AM
Post by: MBGreen on April 17, 2020, 08:47:25 AM
SMOKESCREEN SZN
we're gonna 2nd hand smoke this entire week.
Post by: bojanglesman on April 17, 2020, 08:51:15 AM
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Q. I have a Jets question but not about a prospect. Obviously you have a background with Joe Douglas, so I am wondering what type of characteristics do you think you'll see from a Joe Douglas draft, and what are some of the biggest challenges he'll face taking over this Jets roster?
DANIEL JEREMIAH: Well, I mean, the challenge is, I'll start there, is that you don't have a lot of blue-chipplayers at the important positions. Now, I do believe you have one at the quarterback position in Sam Darnold, but when you look at the premier positions, you talk about edge rusher, corner, left tackle, there was not -- there weren't a lot of blue-chip players in those position rooms when he got there. Now, in free agency he did a good job of just kind of spreading the resources around just to make sure that they can line up and play, and they've got some up upgrades there along that offensive line, and the defense is in pretty good shape overall. Now they've got to find ways to score points, and they just couldn't do it last year. When you're 32nd in scoring and 31st on 3rd down, I don't know how they won seven games. You give the defense all the credit in the world. They've got to go about getting that fixed, and that starts with getting much better up front, and then it gets to -- you've got to give Sam Darnold some weapons, and that's going to be -- I would imagine it's going to be high on the priority list with this draft. You know, Joe has always valued toughness. He's always valued really, really highly competitive players. So that's why it'll be fascinating to see what they end up doing in this draft. They have an opportunity at 11 in front of them where do you want to finish the run on tackles or do you want to begin the run on wide receivers, or do you want to trade down. So that's kind of the decision that they'll have to make there. So we'll see how they go about doing that. I am excited, though, to see not just what they do at 11, but when you look at having two third-round picks,that's where I'm excited. I think they can get a starter on the interior of the offensive line with one of those, and I think they can get a starter at wide receiver with the other pick. So Joe is going to do very well in the middle rounds of this draft. That's where the speed spot is, and I would not be shocked if either at 11 or 48 he traded down to get even more picks in that third, fourth-round range because they can really upgrade their roster in this draft at that point in time.
Post by: MBGreen on April 17, 2020, 08:54:34 AM
Post by: Libero_2 on April 17, 2020, 10:21:55 AM
Even if he doesn’t, he is definitely the most plugged in media head to what Douglas is thinking. What he says are things that excite me at least. I can’t wait for Thursday
Post by: Heismanberg on April 17, 2020, 10:40:45 AM
He's gonna draft some tough, nasty MFers.
Post by: Johnny English on April 17, 2020, 10:44:44 AM
Very excited to see what kind of offensive linemen Joe Douglas drafts.
He's gonna draft some tough, nasty MFers.
Wayne Hunter was a tough, nasty MFer.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 17, 2020, 10:48:49 AM
Wayne Hunter was a tough, nasty MFer.
No he wasn't. Rex was full of excrement.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 17, 2020, 10:49:10 AM
Amik Robertson
Deejay Dallas
Favorite prospect list updated
Post by: bojanglesman on April 17, 2020, 10:54:50 AM
I'd get a super boner if we find a way to slip back just a few spots and still get Ruggs, Lamb, or Jeudy and another 3rd or 4th rounder.
Post by: Libero_2 on April 17, 2020, 11:01:09 AM
My guess is its Becton, Wills, or on to the WRs at 11. Is Wirfs a good enough TACKLE to take at 11?
I'd get a super boner if we find a way to slip back just a few spots and still get Ruggs, Lamb, or Jeudy and another 3rd or 4th rounder.
DJ seems to indicate that if THE GUY at OT isn't there at 11, JD will try and slide back. If he slides back to Denver or Atlanta, I believe one of the 4 (last OT and 1 of the 3 WRs) will still be on the board.
H and I have believed for a long time that Wirfs is quite likely to be JDs guy. If he's there at 11 I imagine we are sprinting the pick in.
Post by: Libero_2 on April 17, 2020, 11:01:29 AM
Marlon Davidson
Amik Robertson
Deejay Dallas
Favorite prospect list updated
Talk to me about Dallas, he's not one I know
Post by: Heismanberg on April 17, 2020, 11:21:07 AM
Talk to me about Dallas, he's not one I know
Nasty power runner that is really effective as a receiving threat out of the backfield
You usually don't see that from tough runners
Post by: loyaljetsfan on April 17, 2020, 01:30:30 PM
^ that made me hard
Except this: "Now they've got to find ways to score points, and they just couldn't do it last year. When you're 32nd in scoring and 31st on 3rd down, I don't know how they won seven games. You give the defense all the credit in the world."
This year is do or die for Gase the Clown
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 17, 2020, 03:03:57 PM
the only other period where i felt as good from the standpoint of team talent evaluation was when mangini was here, and even then accruing that talent was limited in that it came with the caveat of multiple trade ups/giving picks away, and although mike t had a good run for 2-3 years talent wise for us, a lot of the success of those teams came off the back of the foundation mangini had built for us
i cannot wait until next week
Post by: Libero_2 on April 17, 2020, 04:14:35 PM
if joe douglas is able to get us two starters in the 3rd round at OT and WR, that alone could probably start the debates that he's the best GM we've had over the past 20 years
the only other period where i felt as good from the standpoint of team talent evaluation was when mangini was here, and even then accruing that talent was limited in that it came with the caveat of multiple trade ups/giving picks away, and although mike t had a good run for 2-3 years talent wise for us, a lot of the success of those teams came off the back of the foundation mangini had built for us
i cannot wait until next week
I think any of the following guys could be had in the 3rd round that would start for us sooner rather than later
Robert Hunt
Matt Hennessy
Damien Lewis
Nick Harris
Ben Bredeson
John Simpson
Van Jefferson
Donovan Peoples Jones
Chase Claypool
Lynn Bowden
Bryan Edwards
Devin Duvernay
Collin Johnson
I wouldn’t be shocked if we selected a name from one of those lists at 68/79
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 21, 2020, 05:27:44 PM