Jet Offensive
New York Jets Football => ...And The Home Of The Jets => Topic started by: Derek Smalls on March 24, 2020, 06:12:58 PM
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Well, there it is. Schefter.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1242589943018467329
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Discount Douglas
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Pretty sure Douglas scouted Perriman for Baltimore...
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Perriman probably has more upside than Anderson. Perriman can do a lot of the deep things Anderson can do. And he's bigger. He played like a stud in the last few games of the season. He has more downside, too, but on a 1-year deal, there's little risk.
In a normal offseason, I would be fine making this swap. This offseason, I would prefer the continuity with Robby Anderson staying. But I'm fine with this swap.
This is kind of like Fant for Beachum. Fant has a wider range of outcomes than Beachum. If you tell me one is a Pro Bowler this year, I would say Fant. If you asked me if Perriman or Anderson had a better chance to make the Pro Bowl, I would say Perriman. But both can also fail.
It seems like Douglas is doing everything he can to keep 2021 as clean as possible on the books.
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Outside Targets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O4uT2peVaU
Slot Targets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYjAn_PHfyQ
(Jameis Winston is HORRIBLE)
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It seems like Douglas is doing everything he can to keep 2021 as clean as possible on the books.
He's positioning himself to get rid of Adam Gase if need be.
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Per Manish the deal is for $6M with a max value of $8M.
So half the price of Robby Anderson...
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Yassss
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Per Manish the deal is for $6M with a max value of $8M.
So half the price of Robby Anderson...
I still would have preferred Anderson, especially since he settled for a two year deal. I thought he'd get at least three.
It's not a major deal; Crowder and Herndon are more important for Sam IMO. But he and Robby were developing some really obvious chemistry and I hate to see that continuity disrupted.
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He's positioning himself to get rid of Adam Gase if need be.
As long as he doesn't get Sam killed, this is the smart long-term move.
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But he and Robby were developing some really obvious chemistry
I think Anderson's inability to do much over the middle of the field actually hurt Sam more than we think.
Anderson is an elite deep threat and that's hard to find, but that's really all he could do at a high level. He could run comebacks and fly routes all day, but everything else was not very good.
Perriman is a player that can actually move around in a formation and win down the seam and over the middle. I think their production will be similar.
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He's positioning himself to get rid of Adam Gase if need be.
Good hot take. You've peaked my interest
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Good hot take. You've peaked my interest
How is it a hot take?
Nearly everything Douglas has done is correctable in 2021.
It creates a more enticing situation for a head coach.
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Good hot take. You've peaked my interest
*piqued
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How is it a hot take?
Nearly everything Douglas has done is correctable in 2021.
It creates a more enticing situation for a head coach.
It can be correct and also be a hot take, they're not mutually exclusive
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*piqued
Touche
Also to Heismanbergs point. This is why we pay Gase.
If Gase is as good as he thinks he is, he should be able to get more out of Perriman than Jameis and Arians
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I think most of these decisions are so that he can make the 2021 team in his image. This year, we're still dealing with a bunch of the contracts Maccagnan gave out. Next year, Mosley is really the only one we have to keep. Next year, his first draft class will enter Year 2, and Darnold is on the last year of his rookie deal.
And if Gase has a rough year, then it becomes a cleaner break next year if that's what Douglas wants.
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Touche
Also to Heismanbergs point. This is why we pay Gase.
If Gase is as good as he thinks he is, he should be able to get more out of Perriman than Jameis and Arians
Honestly, I'm cautiously optimistic about Perriman, but when the QB's go-to move is "freak It and Chuck It", a receiver's going to post bigger numbers than in a more conservative offense like our's.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-I1ig6nNJ4
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The timing of this move (the same day as robbie) makes me think JD priority was Anderson but the price was the deal breaker
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Good for JD
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Honestly, I'm cautiously optimistic about Perriman, but when the QB's go-to move is "freak It and Chuck It", a receiver's going to post bigger numbers than in a more conservative offense like our's.
Perriman legitimately looked like he could be a No. 1 or No. 2 WR in the final few games of the season. Playing with Jameis definitely helps, but Perriman looked like the real deal. He was the least efficient receiver in the NFL in 2017, but got better at the end of 2018 and legitimately looked very good last year when he got to start.
He's a freak athlete. That's why he got drafted as high as he did. Injuries and poor play washed him out of the Ravens. He's big, fast, and he was productive last season once he got a chance to play and be a featured target. He has the upside to be a much more complete receiver than Robby. But the sample size is small.
Perriman also has a history of injuries that Robby doesn't have, even though you would expect someone with Robby's frame to get hurt more.
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a rookie sam was able to make a big, athletic WR like terrelle pryor look serviceable while on the jets
will be interested in seeing what sam/perriman can do next year
the only thing i don't like about this signing is his fake first name
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Playing with Jameis definitely helps
No, it didn't. Bruce Arians helped Perriman, not Jameis.
In those clips I posted of his targets, Winston misses him so many times. Of course he throws some dimes to Perriman too, but he had so many poor throws.
Arians showed the NFL how to use Perriman. Put him in motion, line him up in the slot, get him moving...scheme him open. Anderson was not a threat from anywhere but X. Perriman actually has the route running ability and size to run drags and crossers. We couldn't do that with Anderson.
The Jets absolutely need to get at least two more players that can line up outside.
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I will miss Robby on the Jets but that dude couldn't even run a speed out or a slant effectively.
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http://www.nfl.com/videos/player-highlights/0ap3000001105652/Breshad-Perriman-highlights-2019-season
Way more polished than I thought he'd be
His ability to run the speed out and the skinny post will be huge for Sam.
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Completely forgot this guy ran a 4.27 at the combine and launched his draft stock into the stratosphere
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Connor Hughes:
Breshad Perriman’s 1-year deal with the #Jets is worth $6.5m. He has a guaranteed $3m base, and received a $3m signing bonus. He has another $500k tied to per-game roster bonuses ($31.25k per game active).
His cap hit for 2020 is $6.437m.
Basically half the cost of Robby
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If he's not too busy taking it in the derriere, I'm sure Manish has already found a way to put a negative spin on this...
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If he's not too busy taking it in the derriere, I'm sure Manish has already found a way to put a negative spin on this...
Cheaper deal, clear indicator of money troubles.
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Cheaper deal, clear indicator of money troubles.
Johnson & Johnson dropped out of the vaccine race when they found out dcm invested in Dude Wipes.
Now they are only making Grizzly Wintergreen scented baby wipes.
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Completely overlooked Flacco and Perriman playing together in Baltimore
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Completely overlooked Flacco and Perriman playing together in Baltimore
Let's hope they don't play together again.
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JD better use both 1st rounders on wideouts next spring
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JD better use both 1st rounders on wideouts next spring
We need a term for WRs equivalent to "gords" so we can repeat it every pick and always be able to draft one in the later rounds.
Wers?
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This is quickly becoming a very painful situation.
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This is quickly becoming a very painful situation.
What the idea of Chris Hogan and Donte Moncrief starting on the outside against Buffalo bothers you?
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What the idea of Chris Hogan and Donte Moncrief starting on the outside against Buffalo bothers you?
I think Hogan will be good if healthy
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Every WR we’ve signed this season has had bad history with injuries. Who is actually surprised here?
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Every WR we’ve signed this season has had bad history with injuries. Who is actually surprised here?
I've already started looking at the WR draft class for next year's draft. fml
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https://twitter.com/jetsopinion/status/1344321226437758977?s=21
lol seeing this play again
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https://twitter.com/jetsopinion/status/1344321226437758977?s=21
lol seeing this play again
bUt sAm dArNoLd dOeSnT tHrOw tHe dEeP bAlL
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Another angle showed him missing Perriman by about a yard or so, right?
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It's hard to tell from that angle. It looks like the throw is a little past him, but it's hard to tell if Perriman could have reached out and grabbed it or dove for it.
On passes 25 yards downfield this season
- Joe Flacco: 3-20
- Sam Darnold: 3-17
- Jamison Crowder: 1-1
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https://twitter.com/jetsopinion/status/1344321226437758977?s=21
lol seeing this play again
The bad: the play action was half-assed to begin with and once Sam dropped back he looked nowhere except at Perriman. Crowder runs a short post, Gore a curl-in. Brownies are pretty much clustered in the middle focusing on Crowder/Gore. Herndon however is dragging on the nearside and the LB's nowhere near him and totally beat - easy catch and run for Herndon. Crowder eventually clears and is behind the middle coverage in the same line of sight as Perriman. Single-read Sam had two 20 yd. options staring him in the face (edit: i.e. zack wilson appears to check down better).
The good: Big Ticket totally stones Myles Garrett. At the snap Garrett tries setting Becton up with a juke followed by a spin move. Becton stays square to Garrett's juke, easily parries Garret's spin move and then walks him sideways into DT Jordan Elliot for good measure. Delicious.
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Gotta change this thread title, I keep thinking we extended his contract.
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Gotta change this thread title, I keep thinking we extended his contract.
Good news is it was one year, which is almost over.
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https://twitter.com/JetsOpinion/status/1344331139465572352
Not all that accurate. Perriman could've dove for it, but it is what it is.
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https://twitter.com/JetsOpinion/status/1344331139465572352
Not all that accurate. Perriman could've dove for it, but it is what it is.
Momentum already going forward, I think if he lays out he has a chance.
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Momentum already going forward, I think if he lays out he has a chance.
That's also DPI on the corner
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At $6.5M I wouldn't be mad if we re-signed him. He's not a terrible WR4 option as long as we have someone new opposite Mims next year.
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At $6.5M I wouldn't be mad if we re-signed him. He's not a terrible WR4 option as long as we have someone new opposite Mims next year.
I'd prefer a less talented player who can stay on the practice field. Musical chairs at skill positions has been disastrous for our quarterbacks.