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Collegiate Football => The NFL Draft => Topic started by: Derek Smalls on March 06, 2022, 02:12:58 AM
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With 2 of the top 10 picks, it makes having an actual top 10 a lot more interesting.
This was my list on Jan. 28
1. Thibodeaux
2. Hutchinson
3. Neal
4. Ekwonu
5. Burks
6. Travon Walker
7. Hamilton
8. Garrett Wilson
9. Karlaftis
10. London
This is my list now
1. Thibodeaux
2. Ekwonu
3. Hutchinson
4. Neal
5. Travon Walker
6. Hamilton
7. Burks
8. Garrett Wilson
9. Gardner
10. Stingley
Really struggled on the 10th guy.
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9 and 10 get settled today
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1. Thibodeaux
2. Walker
3. Hutchinson
4. Ekwonu
5. Neal
6. Hamilton
7. Gardner
8. Stingley Jr.
9. Cross
10. Johnson II
10 was also the hardest for me.
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My next group in no particular order:
Ojabo
Karlaftis
Wilson
Burks
London
Williams
Dean
Lloyd
Linderbaum
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I was thinking about starting this after FA but anyway,
Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Walker
Ekwonu
Neal
Gardner
Hamilton
Wilson
Burks
Dean
Dean hanging on by a thread at 10.
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Would be great to trade back from 4 and 10, moar players.
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If I were making a Jets Big board prior to FA
Thibideaux
Hutchinson
Walker
Ekwonu
Sauce Gardener
Karlaftis
Dean
Stingley
Lloyd
Neal
Hamilton
Then the WR trio of Burks/Wilson/London are next. Even though I now think that ultimately isn’t the direction we go at 10 and we look to FA for that instead.
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Subject to change daily, of course:
1.Hutchinson
2.KT
3.T.Walker
4.Ekwonu
5.Gardner
6.Hamilton
7.Neal
8.Stingley
9.Karlaftis
10.probably London...but Linderbaum, Lloyd, GWilson , McDuffie all fine with me.
Top 6 is my current no-brainer tier.
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Is it wrong that I don't want Walker because it would be boring? I know that's the wrong answer, but still.
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Is it wrong that I don't want Walker because it would be boring? I know that's the wrong answer, but still.
https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1480904860040056832?s=21
One of my favorite plays of the year by any player
Walker absolutely murdering a pulling lineman against Michigan is fun to watch too.
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I was thinking about starting this after FA but anyway,
Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Walker
Ekwonu
Neal
Gardner
Hamilton
Wilson
Burks
Dean
Dean hanging on by a thread at 10.
He'll clap his way up
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Is it wrong that I don't want Walker because it would be boring? I know that's the wrong answer, but still.
I don't think that's necessarily the wrong answer. The Jets have drafted so many defensive linemen in the 1st round over the last 12 years that it's basically a meme on this board. Very few were billed as elite pass rushers, and none have been elite pass rushers. Walker seems to be more in that mold. If his pass rush doesn't improve, it is kind of a boring pick.
Walker looks like an elite run stopper with his measurables, film and skillset. The pass rush, particularly from the edge, is a work in progress. But with his length and athleticism and NFL coaching, maybe you can unlock more pass rush out of him. I am a little leery about taking an edge that high with his lack of pass rushing production and pass rushing tape, but if the Jets want to bet on that athleticism, I don't blame them. If he had the pass rushing production in addition to his measurables, we would never get him at 4.
The Brugler tweet reminded me of Sheldon Richardson tape when I first saw it. Not comparing them as players at all, but that was one thing that I loved when watching Sheldon videos at Missouri.
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I don't think that's necessarily the wrong answer. The Jets have drafted so many defensive linemen in the 1st round over the last 12 years that it's basically a meme on this board. Very few were billed as elite pass rushers, and none have been elite pass rushers. Walker seems to be more in that mold. If his pass rush doesn't improve, it is kind of a boring pick.
Walker looks like an elite run stopper with his measurables, film and skillset. The pass rush, particularly from the edge, is a work in progress. But with his length and athleticism and NFL coaching, maybe you can unlock more pass rush out of him. I am a little leery about taking an edge that high with his lack of pass rushing production and pass rushing tape, but if the Jets want to bet on that athleticism, I don't blame them. If he had the pass rushing production in addition to his measurables, we would never get him at 4.
The Brugler tweet reminded me of Sheldon Richardson tape when I first saw it. Not comparing them as players at all, but that was one thing that I loved when watching Sheldon videos at Missouri.
I'm not convinced I would want us to use the #4 pick on a player that we hope we can mold into something that he isn't already. Whoever we take there should be a ready made player IMO.
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I haven’t watched much of him, but Walker seems like the player we paid JFM to be. Definitely useful and a great piece to a defense… but is he the elite passrusher we are dying for at 4?
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I’d say that’s the reason Walker is 3rd on most of our lists, he doesn’t have the production. At some point the elite athleticism trumps guys with a little more production, but not over guys like Hutch and Thibs who has flashed that production on tape
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Thibs, Walker, and Hutch are so close together that I can understand any order. The way I see it, Hutch offers the best floor, Walker the best ceiling, and Thibs the best mix of both.
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Great thread. I didn’t get to watch a second of the combine this year so I’ll have to do more research and revisit this later.
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1. Kayvon Thibodeaux
2. Kyle Hamilton
3. Jermaine Johnson
4. Aidan Hutchinson
5. Sauce Gardner
6. Ik Ekwonu
7. Evan Neal
8. Travon Walker
9. Garrett Wilson
10. Derek Stingley, Jr
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1. Kayvon Thibodeaux
2. Kyle Hamilton
3. Jermaine Johnson
4. Aidan Hutchinson
5. Sauce Gardner
6. Ik Ekwonu
7. Evan Neal
8. Travon Walker
9. Garrett Wilson
10. Derek Stingley, Jr
He is risen
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He is risen
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I was thinking about starting this after FA but anyway,
Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Walker
Ekwonu
Neal
Gardner
Hamilton
Wilson
Burks
Dean
Dean hanging on by a thread at 10.
Post-FA update
Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Walker
Gardner
Ekwonu
Neal
Wilson
Hamilton
Burks
Johnson
Dean and London on the bubble
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If I were making a Jets Big board prior to FA
Thibideaux
Hutchinson
Walker
Ekwonu
Sauce Gardener
Karlaftis
Dean
Stingley
Lloyd
Neal
Hamilton
Then the WR trio of Burks/Wilson/London are next. Even though I now think that ultimately isn’t the direction we go at 10 and we look to FA for that instead.
Post FA
1. Hutchinson
2. Thibodeaux
3. Walker
4. Sauce
5. Karlaftis
6. Dean
7. Jermaine Johnson
8. Lloyd
9. Stingley
10. Jameson Williams
On bubble in no order: Drake London, Garret Wilson, Kyle Hamilton, Trent McDuffie
Ekwonu is unquestionably a top 10 player to me. But I can’t argue he’s a guy we should be drafting there unless we are prepared to trade Becton and/or Fant for premium capital. I just don’t see that as the case.
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Post FA
1. Hutchinson
2. Thibodeaux
3. Walker
4. Sauce
5. Karlaftis
6. Dean
7. Jermaine Johnson
8. Lloyd
9. Stingley
10. Jameson Williams
On bubble in no order: Drake London, Garret Wilson, Kyle Hamilton, Trent McDuffie
Ekwonu is unquestionably a top 10 player to me. But I can’t argue he’s a guy we should be drafting there unless we are prepared to trade Becton and/or Fant for premium capital. I just don’t see that as the case.
Not a fan of the wideouts?
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Not really sure how you can consider Dean a better prospect than Garrett Wilson personally
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Not really sure how you can consider Dean a better prospect than Garrett Wilson personally
Claps/60
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Not a fan of the wideouts?
To me the depth of WR class trumps that of LBs
And once we get a position at 4, either edge or CB, those guys come off the board which puts the WRs in play at 10.
I still think Dean has Vilma like potential in our defense and that to me trumps the difference in player and prospect between WR 1 and WR 6. Especially when I consider my WR 1 (Jameson Williams) could be available in the mid 20s to move up from 35 to go get.
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To me the depth of WR class trumps that of LBs
And once we get a position at 4, either edge or CB, those guys come off the board which puts the WRs in play at 10.
I still think Dean has Vilma like potential in our defense and that to me trumps the difference in player and prospect between WR 1 and WR 6. Especially when I consider my WR 1 (Jameson Williams) could be available in the mid 20s to move up from 35 to go get.
The linebacker depth in rounds 2-3 is tremendous in this class. In my opinion, you can get a guy in the third who is way, way closer to Dean/Lloyd than what you’d get at receiver compared to Wilson or Williams. And I like the WR class.
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I don't think anyone in the LB class comes close to Nakobe Dean. Elite clapper.
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I don't think anyone in the LB class comes close to Nakobe Dean. Elite clapper.
Chad Muma. Elite milkers
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https://www.nfl.com/news/bucky-brooks-top-five-2022-nfl-draft-prospects-by-position-2-0
Buck Brooks top 5 players at each position
- Has Jermaine Johnson ranked 3rd after Hutch and Thibs
- Drake London WR1
- Christian Harris LB3
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Buck Brooks top 5 players at each position
- Has Jermaine Johnson ranked 3rd after Hutch and Thibs
- Drake London WR1
- Christian Harris LB3
Bucky sucks. Hell I don't know, I suck too.
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Buck Brooks top 5 players at each position
- Has Jermaine Johnson ranked 3rd after Hutch and Thibs
- Drake London WR1
- Christian Harris LB3
Why are people still saying London is 6'5"?
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Buck Brooks top 5 players at each position
- Has Jermaine Johnson ranked 3rd after Hutch and Thibs
Bucky da goat.
- Drake London WR1
- Christian Harris LB3
Nevermind.
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Why are people still saying London is 6'5"?
That's his height in heels
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My updated 10 (so everyone can finally stop holding their breath) :
1.Hutchinson
2.KT
3.T.Walker
4. Gardner
5. Ekwonu
6. Jameson Williams
7. London
8.G.Wilson
9. Stingley
10. Karlaftis/ Neal
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List your top 10 picks for the Jets in order. Not who is the best player overall, but who is your best picks FOR THE JETS. The goal for this list is when the Jets are OTC, whoever's your highest listed player left that isn't off the board, that's your pick if you were the GM. Someone will be left on your list when 4 and 10 come around.
Mine:
1- Hutch
2- Thib
3- Travon Walker
4- Sauce
5- Jermaine Johnson
6- Jameson Williams
7- Garrett Wilson
8- Hamilton
9- London
10- Olave
I'll certainly modify it as I go.
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With 2 of the top 10 picks, it makes having an actual top 10 a lot more interesting.
This was my list on Jan. 28
1. Thibodeaux
2. Hutchinson
3. Neal
4. Ekwonu
5. Burks
6. Travon Walker
7. Hamilton
8. Garrett Wilson
9. Karlaftis
10. London
This is my list now
1. Thibodeaux
2. Ekwonu
3. Hutchinson
4. Neal
5. Travon Walker
6. Hamilton
7. Burks
8. Garrett Wilson
9. Gardner
10. Stingley
Really struggled on the 10th guy.
#fuckbojangles
1. Hutchinson
2. Thibodeaux
3. Ekwonu
4. Walker
5. Jermaine Johnson
6. Drake London
7. Jameson Williams
8. Sauce Gardner
9. Evan Neal
10. Garrett Wilson
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Post-FA update
Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Walker
Gardner
Ekwonu
Neal
Wilson
Hamilton
Burks
Johnson
April update
Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Walker
Gardner
Wilson
Ekwonu
Neal
J. Williams
J. Johnson
Hamilton
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I'm tarded, looked right past this thread. Erase mine someone.
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No OL, we don't need one this early.
1- Hutch
2- Travon Walker
3- Sauce
4- Thib
5- Jermaine Johnson
6- Garrett Wilson
7- Jameson Williams
8- Hamilton
9- London
10- Olave
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1. Hutchinson
2. Thibodeaux
3. Walker
4. Ekwonu
5. Gardner
6. J. Williams
7. Wilson
8. Neal
9. Stingley
10. Olave
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1519307934668308482
Rich Cimini @RichCimini
1h
Compiled top-10s from 6 draft experts. Consensus:
1. Hutchinson-60 pts
2. Ekwonu-51
3. Neal-41
4. Gardner-38
5. Hamilton-34
6. Walker-29
7. Thibodeaux-20
8. Wilson-19
9. Stingley-14
10. London-9
@MelKiperESPN, @McShay13, @Jordan_Reid, @nfldraftscout, @MoveTheSticks, @dpbrugler
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I was thinking about starting this after FA but anyway,
Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Walker
Ekwonu
Neal
Gardner
Hamilton
Wilson
Burks
Dean
Dean hanging on by a thread at 10.
Post-FA update
Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Walker
Gardner
Ekwonu
Neal
Wilson
Hamilton
Burks
Johnson
Dean and London on the bubble
April update
Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Walker
Gardner
Wilson
Ekwonu
Neal
J. Williams
J. Johnson
Hamilton
Possibly final update
Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Walker
Gardner
Wilson
J. Williams
Ekwonu
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Neal
J. Johnson
Hamilton
I'm finding a sharp decline in enthusiasm after 7. Neal might have medical doubts, JJ might not have a high ceiling, Hamilton's workouts almost need to be entirely ignored in order to take him seriously.
Then on the outside I've got Stingley because of his upside but his last 2 seasons concern me. Karlaftis, London, Burks, Cross hover in this group too.
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No OL, we don't need one this early.
1- Hutch
2- Travon Walker
3- Sauce
4- Thib
5- Jermaine Johnson
6- Garrett Wilson
7- Jameson Williams
8- Hamilton
9- London
10- Olave
Well, I was right here so far.
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Possibly final update
Hutchinson
Thibodeaux
Walker
Gardner
Wilson
J. Williams
Ekwonu
***
Neal
J. Johnson
Hamilton
I cannot complain* with the results
*much
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I cannot complain* with the results
*much
Really can't complain now.
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#fuckbojangles
1. Hutchinson
2. Thibodeaux
3. Ekwonu
4. Walker
5. Jermaine Johnson
6. Drake London
7. Jameson Williams
8. Sauce Gardner
9. Evan Neal
10. Garrett Wilson
Had a draft where I moved Sauce up to 6 and Wilson up to 9 here, but we still got 3 of my top 10 guys, even with me being down on Sauce.
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No OL, we don't need one this early.
1- Hutch
2- Travon Walker
3- Sauce
4- Thib
5- Jermaine Johnson
6- Garrett Wilson
7- Jameson Williams
8- Hamilton
9- London
10- Olave
Damn, I lucked my way into this one.